From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 07:42:30 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28385 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA03601; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:42:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA11124; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:40:12 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA60672 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:38:42 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA12078 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 07:38:41 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06735; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:41 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 09:36:41 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: MIME and munpack In-Reply-To: <199807010707.AAA14363@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Ken Stevens X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I couldn't find mmencode or mmdecode on my Unix system (Sun Solaris 2.6), but I downloaded mpack and munpack (*not* part of Solaris). I've appended some info about those two programs. Regarding line wrapping. I sometimes use a program called Jpico instead of Pico. Jpico is a version of JOE (Joe's Own Editor) with Pico-like key bindings. It doesn't wrap long lines and it can do search and replace. You can read more here: http://fileserver.hrz.uni-marburg.de/tools/joe-2.8/html/INFO Jpico also seems to use a little less RAM than does Pico, at least on my system. So it's a great alternative editor for a die-hard Pico user. Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- mpack/munpack version 1.5 for unix Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compatibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh version can also decode messages in split-BinHex format. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga and archimedes systems. The canonical FTP site for this software is ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ This MIME implementation is intended to be as simple and portable as possible. For a slightly more sophisticated MIME implementation, see the program MetaMail, available via anonymous FTP to thumper.bellcore.com, in directory pub/nsb Decoding MIME messages: First, you have to compile the munpack program. See the instructions in the section "Compilation" below. If, after reading the instructions, you are still unsure as to how to compile munpack, please try to find someone locally to help you. To decode a MIME message, first save it to a text file. If possible, save it with all headers included. Munpack can decode some MIME files when the headers are missing or incomplete, other files it cannot decode without having the information in the headers. In general, messages which have a statement at the beginning that they are in MIME format can be decoded without the headers. Messages which have been split into multiple parts generally require all headers in order to be reassembled and decoded. Some LAN-based mail systems and some mail providers (including America Online, as of the writing of this document) place the mail headers at the bottom of the message, instead of at the top of the message. If you are having problems decoding a MIME message on such a system, you need to convert the mail back into the standard format by removing the system's nonstandard headers and moving the standard Internet headers to the top of the message (separated from the message body with a blank line). There must be exactly one message per file. Munpack cannot deal with multiple messages in a single file, to decode things correctly it must know when one message ends and the next one begins. To decode a message, run the command: munpack file where "file" is the name of the file containing the message. More than one filename may be specified, munpack will try to decode the message in each file. For more information on ways to run munpack, see the section "Using munpack" below. Reporting bugs: Bugs and comments should be reported to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu. When reporting bugs or other problems, please include the following information: * The version number of Mpack * The platform (Unix, PC, OS/2, Mac, Amiga, Archimedes) * The EXACT output of any unsuccessful attempts. * If having a problem decoding, the first couple of lines of the input file. Compilation: The mpack distribution should compile with no changes on most unix systems. There are a few exceptions--if compiling on SunOS, SVR4, SCO Unix, or an ancient BSD without the strchr() function, edit the Makefile and uncomment the relevant lines. Compile with the command: make If you want to install the programs and man pages in a common place, use the command: make install DESTDIR=/installation/path where "/installation/path" is the path of the tree you want to install the files into. The default value of DESTDIR is "/usr/local", which installs the programs in the directory "/usr/local/bin" and the man pages in "/usr/local/man/man1". Using mpack: Mpack is used to encode a file into one or more MIME format messages. The program is invoked with: mpack [options] -o outputfile file or mpack [options] file address... or mpack [options] -n newsgroups file Where "[options]" is one or more optional switches described below. "-o outputfile" is also described below. "file" is the name of the file to encode, "address..." is one or more e-mail address to mail the resulting messages to and "newsgroups" is a comma-separated list of newsgroups to post the resulting messages to. The possible options are: -s subject Set the Subject header field to Subject. By default, mpack will prompt for the contents of the subject header. -d descriptionfile Include the contents of the file descriptionfile in an introductory section at the beginning of the first generated message. -m maxsize Split the message (if necessary) into partial messages, each not exceeding maxsize characters. The default limit is the value of the SPLITSIZE environment variable, or no limit if the environment variable does not exist. Specifying a maxsize of 0 means there is no limit to the size of the generated message. -c content-type Label the included file as being of MIME type content-type, which must be a subtype of application, audio, image, or video. If this switch is not given, mpack examines the file to determine its type. -o outputfile Write the generated message to the file outputfile. If the message has to be split, the partial messages will instead be written to the files outputfile.01, outputfile.02, etc. The environment variables which control mpack's behavior are: SPLITSIZE Default value of the -m switch. Default "0". TMPDIR Directory to store temporary files. Default "/tmp". Using munpack: Munpack is used to decode one or more messages in MIME or split-uuencoded format and extract the embedded files. The program is invoked with: munpack [options] filename... which reads the messages in the files "filename...". Munpack may also be invoked with just: munpack [options] which reads a message from the standard input. If the message suggests a file name to use for the imbedded part, that name is cleaned of potential problem characters and used for the output file. If the suggested filename includes subdirectories, they will be created as necessary. If the message does not suggest a file name, the names "part1", "part2", etc are used in sequence. If the imbedded part was preceded with textual information, that information is also written to a file. The file is named the same as the imbedded part, with any filename extension replaced with ".desc" The possible options are: -f Forces the overwriting of existing files. If a message suggests a file name of an existing file, the file will be overwritten. Without this flag, munpack appends ".1", ".2", etc to find a nonexistent file. -t Also unpack the text parts of multipart messages to files. By default, text parts that do not have a filename parameter do not get unpacked. -q Be quiet--suppress messages about saving partial messages. -C directory Change the current directory to "directory" before reading any files. This is useful when invoking munpack from a mail or news reader. The environment variables which control munpack's behavior are: TMPDIR Root of directory to store partial messages awaiting reassembly. Default is "/usr/tmp". Partial messages are stored in subdirectories of $TMPDIR/m-prts-$USER/ Acknowledgements: Written by John G. Myers, jgm+@cmu.edu The mac version was written by Christopher J. Newman, chrisn+@cmu.edu The amiga port was done by Mike W. Meyer, mwm@contessa.phone.net and Peter Simons, simons@peti.GUN.de The os2 port was done by Jochen Friedrich, jochen@audio.pfalz.de The archimedes port was done by Olly Betts, olly@mantis.co.uk Send all bug reports to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu Thanks to Nathaniel Borenstein for testing early versions of mpack and for making many helpful suggestions. Legalese: (C) Copyright 1993,1994 by Carnegie Mellon University All Rights Reserved. Permission to use, copy, modify, distribute, and sell this software and its documentation for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the above copyright notice appear in all copies and that both that copyright notice and this permission notice appear in supporting documentation, and that the name of Carnegie Mellon University not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. Carnegie Mellon University makes no representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose. It is provided "as is" without express or implied warranty. CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE, INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS, IN NO EVENT SHALL CARNEGIE MELLON UNIVERSITY BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INDIRECT OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR ANY DAMAGES WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE. Portions of this software are derived from code written by Bell Communications Research, Inc. (Bellcore) and by RSA Data Security, Inc. and bear similar copyrights and disclaimers of warranty. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 12:57:43 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11216 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA04257; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA06060; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:57:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA36142 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:13 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA18053 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 12:56:12 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA14064 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:56:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from apollo.fa.mtu.edu (apollo.fa.mtu.edu [141.219.148.200]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA22926 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mabeito@localhost) by apollo.fa.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id PAA21168 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:45:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 15:45:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Beito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Binary In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: apollo.fa.mtu.edu: mabeito owned process doing -bs X-Sender: mabeito@apollo.fa.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Ken Stevens wrote: > Do you know of any tool that can deal with base-64 format? The uudecode that comes with slrn works okay with it as far as I can tell. It also has the added benefit of being able to decode multiple attachments in the same file. ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/slrn -- ################################################################################ # Matt Beito mabeito@mtu.edu http://www.csl.mtu.edu/~mabeito # # "Excursions" Fri 10p-1a WMTU 91.9fm http://wmtu.mtu.edu/live.ram # ################################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 13:52:34 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10187 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA05784; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:52:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA03684; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:51:56 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA25434 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:51:04 -0700 Received: from saul6.u.washington.edu (absweger@saul6.u.washington.edu [140.142.82.1]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA48220; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (absweger@localhost) by saul6.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA14682; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Sweger To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: loading messages into memory In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , Dave Hirsch X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 30 Jun 1998, Robin S. Socha wrote: > * Dave Hirsch writes: > > > Dear Pine-info, I have several folders with +1000 messages in them. > > When I open the folder, it takes several minutes and about 60megs of > > memory to load. Is there anyway for pine to ONLY load the index screen > > (message header info) into memory? Once the message is selected for > > opening, only that message would be read into memory. > > Not that I know of. I'm not sure (because it's been a while), but I think using *.mtx mailbox format (Tenex format?) would permit this (for local files). -- / Andrew B. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 17:19:59 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18627 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA11287; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA04051; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:19:36 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA25588 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:18:06 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA04649 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 17:18:05 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA53460; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:03 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA84486; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:01 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 18:18:01 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja BrewHaHa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: loading messages into memory In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dave Hirsch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Dave Hirsch wrote: > > Dear Pine-info, > > I have several folders with +1000 messages in them. > When I open the folder, it takes several minutes and about 60megs of > memory to load. Is there anyway for pine to ONLY load the index screen > (message header info) into memory? Once the message is selected for > opening, only that message would be read into memory. > > PS Partitioning the folders into several smaller folders is not a feasible > option for the nature of my system. There is a way to make messages into a more efficient file system. You can begin the message file with offsets into the file for the beginning of each message for instance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 1 21:16:21 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA13649 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22089; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:16:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA19022; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:50 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA32086 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:12 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA18379 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:11 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA22068 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 21:15:09 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA57457 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:07 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA23100 for ; Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:06 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 22:15:05 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja Whizzdom To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Raja Whizzdom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The most comon form of manipulation is wut yuu don't. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 09:03:49 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA30522 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02114; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:03:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA28575; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:02:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA81976 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:01:01 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.245]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA06358 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 09:01:00 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-221.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.221]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA29474 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 16:00:56 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:02:17 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sent-mail & ... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Somebody said that if you don't want pine to delete your sent-mail folder then you must put this in your .pinerc file: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=110.1 But now pine won't move my saved-messages to new folder every month. Is there a fix, so that pine will move my saved-messages to a new folder every new month and still not delete my sent-mail folder??? TNX! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 12:12:32 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01107 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA29175; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:12:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA09268; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:11:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19648 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:10:27 -0700 Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.126]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA08650 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 12:10:21 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA108316596; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dayoung@creighton.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? IS this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks Danielle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 13:04:39 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA02529 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA00441; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:04:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA22019; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:03:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA63222 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:02:30 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA07239 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 13:02:29 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA94710 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:28 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA86612 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:26 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 2 Jul 1998 dayoung@creighton.edu wrote: > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? IS > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks > I used a system that let you inquire when someone read the subject, read the message, and deleted the message (you could tell how big a twit they think you are :-). Pine docs deprecate doing that, saying it's not always practical and would increase required bandwidth, which are true. Of course, that doesn't mean the post office doesn't do it anyway with double-registered mail. In other words, maybe next millenium. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 21:26:08 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA09590 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA10354; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:26:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA10095; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:25:29 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA26626 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:24:44 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA11795 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 21:24:42 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA19394; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 06:24:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 03 Jul 1998 06:24:32 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: dayoung@creighton.edu's message of "Thu, 2 Jul 1998 14:09:56 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: dayoung@creighton.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN dayoung writes: > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? > IS > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks Well, depends on the system and the system security policy of your partner(s). UNIX provides a finger command which sometimes also displays information about (un)read mails. But I doubt that this option is given. It's a major security leak. L8er, norbert. -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: I decided to be JOHN TRAVOLTA instead!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 2 22:52:10 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA10352 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA11481; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:52:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA01422; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:51:43 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA63476 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:50:43 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA31904 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 22:50:42 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA54375 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:41 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA78000 for ; Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:36 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 23:50:34 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Raja Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: sent-mail & ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 3 Jul 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > dayoung writes: > > > Does anyone know how to check when someone last checked e-mail? > > IS > > this possible? IF so please please please tell me how. Thanks > > Well, depends on the system and the system security policy of your > partner(s). UNIX provides a finger command which sometimes also > displays information about (un)read mails. But I doubt that this > option is given. It's a major security leak. I should've mentioned that I had that feature on a closed (nearly) mainframe. Over the internet, you'd need public-key crypto and key authenticity infrastructure that will probably take another two to five years to develop. As I said, not this millenium. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 3 08:52:02 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19090 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA18710; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:51:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA04527; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:51:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA70390 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:50:09 -0700 Received: from lancaster.nexor.co.uk (lancaster.nexor.co.uk [128.243.9.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA04528 for ; Fri, 3 Jul 1998 08:50:03 -0700 Received: from skyhawk.nexor.co.uk by lancaster.nexor.co.uk with SMTP (NEXOR MMTA 2.2); Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:50:00 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Jul 1998 16:49:57 +0100 (BST) Reply-To: John Berthels Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Berthels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Extended ISO-8859-1 and Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-ID: Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; boundary="-559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854 Content-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII" Just to beat this to death, attached is a filter re-written in C which does a similar job to the previously posted perl version but: a) doesn't require perl start-up time per bodypart display b) recognises many more code page 850 codes c) requires compiling (duh): try "gcc 8859filt.c -o 8859filt" For those who aren't supremely disinterested in this, the problem this tries to solve is the presence of character codes in the 0x80 -> 0x9f range in bodyparts labelled as iso-8859-1. Such bodyparts seem to be generated by mailers including Netscape 4, which incorrectly insert these codes to represent characters from code page 850. This filter replaces some of these codes with 'lookalike' sequences from the legal iso-8859-1 range. The comment at the beginning of the program gives terse help on installing in PINE. [I guess the other workaround to this might be to use a font in codepage 850 (presumably one of the ones netscape uses?) and unset the PINE variable: send-control-characters-as-is] Have fun, jb -- John Berthels Email: j.berthels@nexor.co.uk X.400: /G=john/S=berthels/O=nexor/P=nexor/A=cwmail/C=gb/ ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET="US-ASCII"; NAME="8859filt.c" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 I2luY2x1ZGUgPHN0ZGlvLmg+DQoNCi8qDQogKiBQaW5lIGZpbHRlciB0byBt YXAgY29udHJvbCBjaGFyYWN0ZXIgc2VxdWVuY2VzIGFuZA0KICogY2hhcmFj dGVycyBjb3JyZXNwb25kaW5nIHRvIGNvZGUgcGFnZSA4NTAgdG8gaXNvLTg4 NTktMQ0KICoNCiAqIFVzZWZ1bCBzaW5jZSBzb21lIG1haWxlcnMgKE5ldHNj YXBlIDQ/IElFND8pIHByb2R1Y2UgY29kZQ0KICogcGFnZSA4NTAgYnV0IGxh YmVsIGl0IGFzIGlzby04ODU5LTENCiAqDQogKiB0aGFua3MgdG8gQXJ0aHVy IFNub2tlIDxzbm9rZUBlcXVha2UuZ2VvbC52dC5lZHU+IGZvcg0KICogaWRl YXMgKyBkZXRlcm1pbmF0aW9uDQogKg0KICogSE9XIFRPIFVTRToNCiAqIElu IHlvdXIgcGluZSBzZXR1cCwgYWRkIHRoZSBsaW5lOg0KICogX0NIQVJTRVQo SVNPLTg4NTktMSlfIC9wYXRoL3RvL3lvdXIvY29tcGlsZWQvODg1OWZpbHQN CiAqIHRvIHlvdXIgJ2Rpc3BsYXktZmlsdGVycycgc2V0dGluZw0KICoNCiAq Lw0KDQovKg0KICogVGFibGU6IHBvc2l0aW9uIFswXSBtYXBzIHRvIHBvc2l0 aW9uIDB4ODAgaW4gY29kZSBwYWdlIDg1MA0KICogcmVzdCBvZiB0YWJsZSBy dW5zIGNvbnRpbnVvdXNseSB0byAweDlmDQogKi8NCnN0YXRpYwljaGFyCSpt YXBfdGFibGVbXQk9CXsNCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8q IE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiLCIsCQkvKiBMb29rcyBsaWtlIGEgY29tbWEgKi8N CgkiZiIsCQkvKiBJdGFsaWMgZiAqLw0KCSJcIiIsCQkvKiAnbG93JyBxdW90 ZXMgKi8NCgkiLi4uIiwJCS8qIGVsbGlwc2lzICovDQoJIisiLAkJLyogTm8g Z29vZCBjaG9pY2UgKGZvb3Rub3RlIG1hcmtlcikgKi8NCgkifCIsCQkvKiBE aXR0byAqLw0KCSJeIiwJCS8qIExvb2tzIGxpa2UgYSBjYXJldCAqLw0KCSIl byIsCQkvKiBMb29rcyBsaWtlICUgYW5kIGEgc21hbGwgJ28nIChhICdwZXJt aWxsZScpICovDQoJIlMiLAkJLyogQ2FwaXRhbCBTIHdpdGggYW4gYWNjZW50 ICovDQoJIjwiLAkJLyogT3BlbiBhbmdsZSBicmFja2V0ICovDQoJIk9FIiwJ CS8qIENhcGl0YWwgT0UgZGlwdGhvbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3Npbmcg Ki8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8N CgkiIiwJCS8qIE1pc3NpbmcgKi8NCgkiJyIsCQkvKiBPcGVuIHNpbmdsZSBx dW90ZSAqLw0KCSInIiwJCS8qIENsb3NlIHNpbmdsZSBxdW90ZSAqLw0KCSJc IiIsCQkvKiBPcGVuIGRvdWJsZSBxdW90ZSAqLw0KCSJcIiIsCQkvKiBDbG9z ZSBkb3VibGUgcXVvdGUgKi8NCgkiKiIsCQkvKiBCdWxsZXQgKi8NCgkiLSIs CQkvKiBEYXNoICovDQoJIi0iLAkJLyogTG9uZyBkYXNoICovDQoJIn4iLAkJ LyogVGlkbGUvYWNjZW50IGNoYXJhY3RlciAqLw0KCSIodG0pIiwJCS8qIFRy YWRlIG1hcmsgc3ltYm9sICovDQoJInMiLAkJLyogcyB3aXRoIGFuIGFjY2Vu dCAqLw0KCSI+IiwJCS8qIENsb3NlIGFuZ2xlIGJyYWNrZXQgKi8NCgkib2Ui LAkJLyogb2UgZGlwdGhvbmcgKi8NCgkiWSIsCQkvKiBDYXBpdGFsIFkgd2l0 aCB1bWxhdXQgKi8NCn07DQoNCmludCBtYWluKCBpbnQgYXJnYywgY2hhciAq KmFyZ3YgKQ0Kew0KCWludAljOw0KCWNoYXIJKnN0cjsNCg0KCXdoaWxlKCAo YyA9IGdldGNoYXIoKSkgIT0gRU9GICkJew0KCQlpZiggYyA9PSAnXicgKQl7 DQoJCQljID0gZ2V0Y2hhcigpOw0KCQkJaWYoIGMgIT0gRU9GICYmIGMgPj0g MHhjMCAmJiBjIDw9IDB4ZmYgKQl7DQoJCQkJLyoNCgkJCQkgKiBXZSBoYXZl IGEgY3RybCBjaGFyDQoJCQkJICovDQoJCQkJc3RyID0gbWFwX3RhYmxlW2Mg LSAweGMwXTsNCgkJCQlwcmludGYoICIlcyIsIHN0ciApOw0KCQkJfSBlbHNl CXsNCgkJCQlwdXRjaGFyKCAnXicgKTsNCgkJCQlwdXRjaGFyKCBjICk7DQoJ CQl9DQoJCX0gZWxzZSBpZiggYyA+PSAweDgwICYmIGMgPD0gMHg5ZiApCXsN CgkJCS8qDQoJCQkgKiBOb24tcHJpbnRhYmxlIGlzby04ODU5LTEsIHRyeSBj cDg1MA0KCQkJICovDQoJCQlzdHIgPSBtYXBfdGFibGVbYyAtIDB4ODBdOw0K CQkJcHJpbnRmKCAiJXMiLCBzdHIgKTsNCgkJfSBlbHNlCXsNCgkJCXB1dGNo YXIoIGMgKTsNCgkJfQ0KCX0NCg0KCXJldHVybiAwOw0KfQ0K ---559023410-341603450-899223930=:19854-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 10:10:59 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA03069 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA05881; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:10:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12838; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:09:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA63136 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:06:56 -0700 Received: from alinga.newcastle.edu.au (c9412051@alinga.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.160.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA08357 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 10:06:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (c9412051@localhost) by alinga.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA03981 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:47 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:45 +1000 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ABERY L A To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 'bug' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can any knowledgeable pine user tell me how to delete the old message which constantly appears when I want to send a message? It is a number of very old messages I sent when I first used pine, and it reappears each time I wish to write. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 11:34:57 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28672 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA16435; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA15172; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:34:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA60804 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:33:09 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA25402 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 11:33:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA18155 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:32:53 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 13:32:52 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: deleting old messages (was: 'bug') In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please use a descriptive Subject. You aren't describing a bug. >From: ABERY L A >Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 03:06:45 +1000 (EST) >Can any knowledgeable pine user tell me how to delete the old message >which constantly appears when I want to send a message? >It is a number of very old messages I sent when I first used pine, and it >reappears each time I wish to write. Since you haven't given a complete description of what's happening, I can only guess. When you invoke the composer, are you offered the opportunity to continue either interrupted or postponed messages? If you no longer need them, answer "yes", choose one of the messages, and cancel it when you are in the composer. You get a postponed message when you use control-o in the composer. You may get an interrupted message if you drop your connection and pine is able to save it. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 4 22:12:17 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA07852 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA12796; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:12:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA04183; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:11:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA61500 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA30507 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:06 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA12781 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 22:10:04 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA76865 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:59 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA87918 for ; Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:58 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Jul 1998 23:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Headers, snipped of irrelevant data. > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Allaince_Qwaybek_cr=E9era_le_Qu=E9bec_so?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?__uverain?= > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT All the above headers came from the same message. Pine 3.95 is apparently using quoted-printable and 8bit at the same time. Fixed someone this bug in Pine 3.96? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 5 09:47:47 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17703 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29841; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA21202; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:47:20 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA82010 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:45:12 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA01243 for ; Sun, 5 Jul 1998 09:45:11 -0700 Message-Id: <199807051645.MAA06236@ocalhost> Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 12:45:02 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Binary In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Adam H. Kerman" Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 00:31:41 -0500 (CDT) ID: > Today, aren't all uuencodes using base64? Nope. NeXT machines, for one, are still using uuencode which != base64 and I would imagine older SunOS machines are doing the same. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 01:42:54 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA25452 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA29836; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:42:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA04152; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:40:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA24702 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:38:19 -0700 Received: from lancaster.nexor.co.uk (lancaster.nexor.co.uk [128.243.9.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA03264 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 01:38:18 -0700 Received: from skyhawk.nexor.co.uk by lancaster.nexor.co.uk with SMTP (NEXOR MMTA 2.2); Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:08 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Berthels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 4 Jul 1998, Raja wrote: > Headers, snipped of irrelevant data. > > > Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_Allaince_Qwaybek_cr=E9era_le_Qu=E9bec_so?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?__uverain?= > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > > All the above headers came from the same message. Pine 3.95 is apparently > using quoted-printable and 8bit at the same time. Fixed someone this > bug in Pine 3.96? I believe a Content-Transfer-Encoding header just applies to the bodypart (or single bodypart message) it heads. The use of RFC2047 headers (the encoding quoted above) is unrelated to the choice of transfer encoding used. In a similar way, in a multi-bodypart message, each bodypart may have a different Content-Transfer-Encoding. So, I don't think this is a bug. jb -- John Berthels Email: j.berthels@nexor.co.uk X.400: /G=john/S=berthels/O=nexor/P=nexor/A=cwmail/C=gb/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 08:30:29 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22695 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA05198; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:30:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27302; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:28:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA38632 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:26:28 -0700 Received: from spira.plb.de (root@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA15465 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 08:26:27 -0700 Received: from spira.plb.de (bork@spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by spira.plb.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA01813; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:41:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 17:41:56 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H. Bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: deferred mailing ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "h. bork" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, does anyone here happen to know a Pine function to allow for deferred mailing, i.e. send a mail at a defined date/time ? Do Pine 3.96 or forthcoming 4.0 ease in some way the use of well-known mailer / operating system features (cron etc) to this end or support any such function by themselves ? Direct replies welcome. TIA and kind regards, hal :-) ---------------------------------------------------------- bork@plb.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 09:42:58 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA32554 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA07283; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:42:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA15308; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:38:08 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA55950 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:36:06 -0700 Received: from mail.ntplx.net (mail.ntplx.net [204.213.176.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA28268 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 09:36:05 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by mail.ntplx.net (8.8.7/NETPLEX) id MAA15157 for u.washington.edu!pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from macdco by mail.ntplx.net; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36 EDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:36:04 -0400 (EDT) >Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Giannelli To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine for SCO MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dcg@macdco.com X-Sender: dcg@macdco X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How would I get the latest version of Pine 3.96 for SCO unix 3.2.4 Would it have to be compiled for SCO as I didn't see a SCO version of Pine on the FTP site. Thank You ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 10:23:11 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA31964 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA08412; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:23:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA13766; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:21:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA10204 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:19:23 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA00834 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:19:22 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA75013 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:21 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA65528 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:20 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Quoted printable when 8bit specified. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, John Berthels wrote: > The use of RFC2047 headers (the encoding quoted above) is unrelated to the > choice of transfer encoding used. Mean you that it's supposed to be "quoted-printable" by default, and there's no way to put 8bit in headers? > So, I don't think this is a bug. If not, the design sucks. It looks horrible, and the threaded news reader (Tin) here doesn't do "quoted-printable". It would've been better to specify that MIME headers come first. They do if you put 8bit characters in headers anyway. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 6 10:51:53 1998 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA25316 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA09280; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04132; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:51:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA69752 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:49:00 -0700 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA13764 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 10:48:59 -0700 Received: from SERVER00 (dialup-10 [195.17.73.10]) by tor.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA15590 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 19:48:54 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199807061748.TAA15590@tor.abc.se> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 19:48:26 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Konrad To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: system user Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: m9652@suncd.abc.se X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN in unix it is possible to setup pine to start whith the current user logged on, so it automaticly gets the users name emailadress, server etc in PC pine, is it possible to make pine take the current username from somewhere? /kb ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01239 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA12406; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:38:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA25200; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:37:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA63482 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:33:45 -0700 Received: from panther2.pen.eiu.edu (panther2.pen.eiu.edu [139.67.9.3]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA24957 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 12:33:44 -0700 Received: from panther1.pen.eiu.edu (panther1.pen.eiu.edu [139.67.9.2]) by panther2.pen.eiu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA29835 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (cueab4@localhost) by panther1.pen.eiu.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA16176 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:58 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:57 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elizabeth Barrell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: panther1.pen.eiu.edu: cueab4 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from them. Is there? Can anybody help? Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05741 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14109; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA27168; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:42:32 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA31588 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:12 -0700 Received: from tor.abc.se (root@tor.abc.se [192.36.170.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA20279 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:20:10 -0700 Received: from jonze.abc.se (dialup-13 [195.17.73.13]) by tor.abc.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA20549; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:20:05 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from jonze (jea@jonze [127.0.0.1]) by jonze.abc.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA00757; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:19:50 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jonas Anderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Elizabeth Barrell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jea@jonze X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN =09On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, Elizabeth Barrell wrote: =09 =09You should check out Procmail, it does all kinds of =09filtering. > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I > was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from > them. Is there? Can anybody help? =20 >=20 > Thanks >=20 >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see:=20 > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 =09Jonas __ e-mail*jea@abc.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D R=E4var skall man inte skjuta. R=E4var skall man lura. Det brukar alltid ja= g g=F6ra, sa Findus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05925 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA24975; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:46:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA02313; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:44:57 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA87546 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:39:34 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id NAA16580 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:39:31 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de (131.220.225.124,2189) by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM/VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Jul 98 22:39:33 MEZ Received: (from robin@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA27215; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:08:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Jul 1998 22:08:56 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Filtering Mail (was: help) In-Reply-To: Elizabeth Barrell's message of "Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:31:57 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN * Elizabeth Barrell writes: > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive > mail, and I was hoping there was a way to permanently block > incoming messages from them. Is there? Can anybody help? Sure. Just read the Pine FAQ (called QandA) to find the URL for Nancy McGough's fabulous filtering mail FAQ. All the answers are in there. Something else: please use a meaningful subject - "help" describes 99% of all requests sent here. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Control Risks Ltd. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05815 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14377; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA28334; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:53:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA46664 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:26 -0700 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA17931 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:52:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00151 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:52:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:52:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > There's a few addresses from which I do not want to receive mail, and I > was hoping there was a way to permanently block incoming messages from > them. Is there? Can anybody help? If you're root on your server, this shouldn't be too difficult to do- just set up mail to "whatever@yourdomain" to point to either a junk mail account that you periodically clean out or to /dev/null. If you're not root, or you otherwise don't want to mess with that kind of thing, set up a .forward to the dummy account for each account you want to block from receiving mail. (won't work if you're trying to keep users from modifying this) (can probably even direct the mail into /dev/null too although I've never tried it) If absolute worst comes to worst, simply create a soft link to /dev/null in the mail spool directory corresponding to that account name. What comes in won't stay in for very long. There are probly other ways too. Procmail is cool- and definitely worth learning, but probably not the tool to do this job depending upon what you really want to do. -=Jim=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06190 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA14421; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:56:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA28477; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:55:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA46694 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:31 -0700 Received: from federation.addy.com (federation.addy.com [207.239.68.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA18139 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 13:54:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by federation.addy.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA00498 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 16:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Sander To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Unsend! Unsend! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK- I totally blew it and misinterpreted that question... Ignore everything I said in it. Procmail actually *is* the tool for the job- I had the work order upside-down. ;) -=Jim=- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA03765 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25948; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:21:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13714; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:20:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA57976 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:58 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA26694 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:58 -0700 Received: from malasada.lava.net (root@malasada.lava.net [199.222.42.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA15073 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 14:18:55 -0700 Received: from dynamic.lava.net(alula022.lava.net[207.26.195.21]) (1801 bytes) by malasada.lava.net via sendmail with P:smtp/R:inet_hosts/T:smtp (sender: ) id for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 11:18:23 -1000 (HST) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Jul-3) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980706111838.00802ca0@mail.9netave.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jul 1998 11:18:38 -1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ElectroMarine Services To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help! - I messed up my .addressbook Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: m1146802@mail.9netave.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! - I messed up my .addressbook Cc: support@lava.net, naia@lava.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ok - the short story.... had an PINE addressbook all setup from some time back - had been working with an apparently older version of pine in those days (1.5-2 years ago) - that handled addressbook functions differently - now have pine 3.96 on lava.net 's unix shell. the older? vers, allowed me to paste-in addresses one at a time, just the address - without having to input nicknames, fullnames etc. - this ver doesn't seem to want to let me do this. so... back to the short story.... I downloaded the .addressbook file in ascii mode via ftp and added a whole bunch of addresses to it, following the same format (, , ....... ) and sent it back up, overwriting what was there.... now the buggah doesn't read right, within the addressbook function of pine.... this, after spending hours putting all the new addresses into it :( anybody got any clues as to how to go about fixing this one? TIA aloha danno http://holoholo.org/ Hawaii's First Ocean Sports Ezine - on The Wire since 2/1/95 lektrode@lava.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA12716 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA23262; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:36:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28122; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:35:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA65130 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:34:20 -0700 Received: from ns1.africaonline.co.ke (ns1.africaonline.co.ke [199.103.176.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA26537 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:34:15 -0700 Received: from africaonline.co.ke (dhcp86.africaonline.co.ke [10.176.0.86]) by ns1.africaonline.co.ke (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id HAA29698; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 07:38:27 +0300 (GMT) Message-Id: <35A1A650.FF06093F@africaonline.co.ke> Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 07:38:43 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Richard Bosire To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine for SCO References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: David Giannelli X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN check on the sco web site ( skunkware version 5 should have it .) ciao bosire David Giannelli wrote: > How would I get the latest version of Pine 3.96 for SCO unix > 3.2.4 > > Would it have to be compiled for SCO as I didn't see a SCO > version of Pine on the FTP site. > > Thank You > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA12940 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA23543; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28683; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:57:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA39386 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:55:45 -0700 Received: from fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (0@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.8]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA27837 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 21:55:44 -0700 Received: from fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (6782@fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca [198.161.206.7]) by fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA49891 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:43 -0600 Received: from localhost (brewhaha@localhost) by fn2.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA47638 for ; Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 22:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Raja To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help! - I messed up my .addressbook In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980706111838.00802ca0@mail.9netave.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Jul 1998, ElectroMarine Services wrote: (long story about why you're manually editing .addressbook snipped) > so... back to the short story.... > > I downloaded the .addressbook file in ascii mode via ftp and added a whole > bunch of addresses to it, following the same format > (, , ....... ) and sent > it back up, overwriting what was there.... That was a mistake...overwriting. > now the buggah doesn't read right, within the addressbook function of pine.... > > this, after spending hours putting all the new addresses into it :( > > anybody got any clues as to how to go about fixing this one? Take a very close look at the format of addresses that Pine makes in the file. Emulate the format carefully. Start by typing just one address directly into the file. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA16707 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA10454; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA21142; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:31:05 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA87464 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:29:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA08021 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:29:00 -0700 Received: from dns.bibli.it ([192.106.191.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA29124 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:28:56 -0700 Received: from dns.bibli.it (dns.bibli.it [192.106.191.33]) by dns.bibli.it (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA13290 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: gundl hitchings To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello again, ok so now im a proud subscriber to the pine info list. pine is the coolest. could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. Gundl Hitchings thank you oh so much, Gu ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21147 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA10749; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:56:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA26650; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:55:51 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA70316 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:53:55 -0700 Received: from public.ndh.com (public.ndh.net [194.97.97.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id FAA09200 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 05:53:54 -0700 Received: from fireball.control-risks.de (port206.koeln.ndh.net [195.94.92.206]) by public.ndh.com (8.8.7/8.8.0) with ESMTP id OAA26614 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:53:36 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from rss@localhost) by fireball.control-risks.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA25412; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:51:58 +0200 Message-Id: <19980707145155.A25240@control-risks.de> Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:51:55 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: ; from gundl hitchings on Tue, Jul 07, 1998 at 02:35:00PM +0200 References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Quoting gundl hitchings (gundl@bibli.it): > could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of > a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like > to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. The folder is a single file in a directory called mail or Mail (U*ix is case sensitive) in a directory /home/gundl. You can attach that file to a mail which you then send to its "final destination". You could also save it to a floppy though. Since that is dependant on your local configuration, you had best talk to your sysadmin. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Control Risks Germany Ltd. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22225 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA13042; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26285; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:21:13 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA78232 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:19:11 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA01448 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 08:19:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA27609 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:18:57 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 10:18:57 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: forwarding a file In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the future, never send a message without a descriptive Subject. >From: gundl hitchings >Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 14:35:00 +0200 (MET DST) >could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of >a folder? there is a printer at that final destination, and i would like >to keep a hard copy of my pine journal. What do you mean by "journal"? A folder is a file containing e-mail messages. You can use any means available to you: ftp, IMAP, zipping it and attaching it to an e-mail message, etc. If it's rather large, then use ftp or zip it and attach it to a message. I don't know what tools you have. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21201 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA15806; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:27:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00916; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:26:32 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA78308 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:24:08 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21583 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:24:07 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA07457; Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:23:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 16:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: forwarding the entire contents of a folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: gundl hitchings X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Jul 1998, gundl hitchings wrote: gh} .... gh} could you please tell me how to go about forwarding the entire contents of gh} a folder? gh} .... Have a look at the section "How can I forward messages I have already saved in Pine to another account?" at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html -- SK From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14666 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA11978; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:13:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA16566; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:12:59 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA70912 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:09:18 -0700 Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA30297 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 08:09:17 -0700 Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.6/BZS-8-1.0) id LAA23653; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by world.std.com (TheWorld/Spike-2.0) id AA03618; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 11:09:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff A Kinsey To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: ibm 3151 terminals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i see a note from oct'97 abouut getting these to work. but no answer. does any one know how? thanks -jeff ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA18432 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA19510; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:15:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA20310; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:14:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA72850 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:32 -0700 Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA21805 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:12:31 -0700 Received: from morton.facnet.aurora.edu (boll.facnet.aurora.edu [205.212.40.222]) by admin.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA03391 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:09:16 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:11:04 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cathy Boll To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Permission denied on .pinerc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cboll@admin.aurora.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. What could be causing this? He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the supplied default. I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new system. Thanks for your help. Cathy Boll ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20933 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA21763; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:35:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA23314; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:33:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA87372 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:31:51 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA29823 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:31:48 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id UAA10266 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:31:47 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id QAA24066; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:18:59 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Cathy Boll X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Cathy, It could be that the directory where the .pinerc lives has insufficient write permissions. Check this by typing: cd /usr/users/username ls -ld . You should get a listing that looks something like: drwxrwxrwx 18 root other 20480 Jul 8 10:51 . If any of the w's are missing, that's you're problem. If not, it could be that the username or id # is different on the new system, which would disallow the user from updating the .pinerc file. Make sure you assign the same id #s to each user on the new system. As for the message regarding site policy, that is being caused by the presence of a pine.conf file in /usr/local/pine or whatever the equivalent directory is on your Digital Unix system. This file overrides whatever is in the users .pinerc file. Joe DiBenedetto On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Cathy Boll wrote: > I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from > a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. > > When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving > configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I > have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. > What could be causing this? > > He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with > site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt > to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule > and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't > change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc > file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the > supplied default. > > I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am > very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new > system. > > Thanks for your help. > > Cathy Boll > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15283 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA09050; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:39:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA27781; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:38:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA70144 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:36:42 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA01462 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:36:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199807082036.QAA04751@ocalhost> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:36:35 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> References: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Cathy Boll Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:11:04 -0500 ID: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> > When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving > configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I > have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. > What could be causing this? What about the permissions of the parent directory? Have you tried a different pinerc file using the -p flag? > He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with > site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt > to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule > and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't > change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc > file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the > supplied default. Sounds like you have a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file on this new system I know what 'enable-suspend' might be sorted off, but 'addrbook-sort-rule' shouldn't be set by the administrators. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21820 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA09345; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:49:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA03342; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:48:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA66692 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:46:39 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA02580 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:46:38 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02891; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA07769; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id QAA04773; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:46:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe DiBenedetto X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Joe DiBenedetto wrote: > cd /usr/users/username > ls -ld . > > You should get a listing that looks something like: > > drwxrwxrwx 18 root other 20480 Jul 8 10:51 . > > If any of the w's are missing, that's you're problem. If not, it could Err? Since when did any normal user's directory need to allow full write permission to everyone on the system? I think a better example would be: % ls -ld ~ 0 drwx--x--x 46 edan other 12288 Jul 8 16:43 /home/blah/edan/ If THAT 'w' is missing, then that's the problem, but that seems too easy. I would be interested in what happens if you do % cd % touch afile % pico afile (write some stuff, quit) If that doesn't work, then this isn't a pine problem. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA21119 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA22797; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:13:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA25001; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:12:59 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA87540 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:11:14 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14296 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 14:11:12 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id VAA15555 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 21:11:10 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id RAA06892; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:10:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:10:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, you got me. It's been a long day... Joe On Wed, 8 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > Err? Since when did any normal user's directory need to allow full > write permission to everyone on the system? > > I think a better example would be: > > % ls -ld ~ 0 > drwx--x--x 46 edan other 12288 Jul 8 16:43 /home/blah/edan/ > > If THAT 'w' is missing, then that's the problem, but that seems > too easy. > > I would be interested in what happens if you do > > % cd > % touch afile > % pico afile (write some stuff, quit) > > If that doesn't work, then this isn't a pine problem. > > - edan > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20005 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA17759; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:27:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA08243; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA78292 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA03431 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:27 -0700 Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA00588; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:23:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA16842; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:07:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA18238 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:18 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA09837 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA19921 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 19:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.00. This release represents many months of work and introduces significant new functionality. Nearly every aspect of Pine's behavior has seen enhancement in one way or another. A reasonably detailed list of improvements can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs As for performance expectations, note that this version has not been exposed to widespread general use. Due to the amount of new and revised code, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Unfortunately, PC-Pine cannot be made available at this time. There remains a small set of PC-specific enhancements not yet fully implemented nor tested. Please stay tuned! As always, Thanks and Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA01883 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA22714; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:11:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA19401; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:10:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA57450 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:08:11 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA21937 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 03:08:10 -0700 Received: from slip139-92-33-156.lju.si.ibm.net (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-156.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.156]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA26744 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:08:07 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've already have some problems with Pine 4.00 :) 1. I always get this when I start pine: Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/mail/ssdipola.lock.899977868.6153.alpha: Permission denied What should I do??? -------- 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine from doing this??? -------- 3. I have this in /usr/lib/pine.conf (main conf file) global-address-book={/usr/lib/pine.addressbook} but it doesn't work :( --------- That's all for now!!! xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00959 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA07929; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:25:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA27261; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:24:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA69440 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:22:43 -0700 Received: from admin.aurora.edu (admin.aurora.edu [192.203.224.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA30228 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 06:22:42 -0700 Received: from morton.facnet.aurora.edu (boll.facnet.aurora.edu [205.212.40.222]) by admin.aurora.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA22571 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:19:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980709082111.007a69f0@admin.aurora.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 08:21:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Cathy Boll To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Permission denied on .pinerc In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980708141104.007e4d60@admin.aurora.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: cboll@admin.aurora.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you to everyone who answered this request for help. The .pinerc problem was indeed caused by improper ownership of the /usr/users/username directory and not down at the file level. The config problem is also resolved. The user had an old .pinerc file that used options that conflicted with the pine.conf file. Again, thanks for your help. Cathy Boll At 02:11 PM 7/8/98 -0500, you wrote: >I hope that you can help me. I am in the process of moving Pine 3.96 from >a Digital Ultrix V4.4 system to a Digital Unix 4.0D system. > >When one of the users logs on, he gets the message "Error saving >configuration in file /usr/users/username/.pinerc permission denied". I >have the same permissions on my own .pinerc file and my works just fine. >What could be causing this? > >He also gets the message "Note: some of your config options conflict with >site policy and are ignored". I am prompted to investigate when I attempt >to configure the setup. The two offending options are: addrbook-sort-rule >and enable-suspend. When I try to change these, I get the message "can't >change sys-admin defined value". Please note that I copied his .pinerc >file from the old system to the new and he has a number of changes from the >supplied default. > >I have only started testing on the new machine with a few users and I am >very concerned if I cannot bring the users old .pinerc files to the new >system. > >Thanks for your help. > >Cathy Boll > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02891 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25765; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:11:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA28738; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:10:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA69554 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA09303 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:29 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25738 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 07:09:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199807091409.KAA14611@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:09:23 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine4: confusion over default folder Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've read the online/context help, and I'm still not understanding. How do I use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ rather than ~/mail/ ? TjL, filing this under "non backwards compatible items" ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08052 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00118; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA01770; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:56:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA70932 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:54:34 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA17547 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 09:54:31 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-151.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.151]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA32576 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:54:20 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA08749 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:56:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 18:56:03 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please tell if I should split it into separate messages next time. 1. I have Linux and glibc-2.0.7-13 and had to add -lcrypt manually to build pine. 2. Folder list, W something, ^X. This doesn't rearrange folder names correctly (as selecting with `:' does). 3. It would be nice if TAB TAB displayed possible completions for e.g. name of file to attach or insert, not only for folders. 4. When selectable items are in every line near the bottom of message, first DOWN key scrolls the text one line, second one selects the link that just appeared, third scrolls next line, fourth selects next link... So I think it would be more convenient if scrolling by one line selected the last link on that line as well (or first link, when scrollong up), so continuous scrolling would be more even. 5. When I am in postponed-msgs folder and attempt to continue postponed composition, I get: [>Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.<] Then some evil things may occur, e.g. garbage in that message. 6. If .signature file already begins with "-- ", pine should not add the second one. Some people may keep it there for other programs. 7. Pine could make links from email addresses without mailto: as well. 8. It would be nice if the string "On [someday], [somebody] wrote:" was configurable, wouldn't it? 9. Sometimes crossposts are deleted, sometimes not... Unfortunately now I can't detect and say exactly when. But one thing is obviously true: after unexclusion of a large newsgroup with `&' and then exiting it, smart enough program shouldn't have to examine all previously deleted messages for crossposts! 10. When you have time to think about improving a composer, I would suggest to start with writing a block to a file and piping a block through a command. Yes, I know I can attach an external editor, but it would not integrate with the rest of pine so nice :-) 11. I hope that the bugs I've told about, long time ago, to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, will be fixed sometime, as some of them still remain in version 4.00... I guess there is no need to repeat them here now, or am I wrong? 12. Is there a sense in telling about much larger wishes about pine? Unicode? Threading? Thanks for pine, I found it the most convenient mailer and newsreader! Version 4.00 is much better. But it still has bugs :-| I may try to dig into sources and correct some of these bugs myself, but unfortunately not until September. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06641 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA14102; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:38:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03703; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:37:31 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA59718 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:36:15 -0700 Received: from aud.alcatel.com (rockdal.aud.alcatel.com [128.251.30.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA19394 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:36:14 -0700 Received: from rdxsunhost.Aud.Alcatel.COM by aud.alcatel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13626; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:37:41 CDT Received: from rwasic14.rwasics by rdxsunhost.Aud.Alcatel.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14225; Thu, 9 Jul 98 12:36:11 CDT Received: by rwasic14.rwasics (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA14065; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:31:21 -0500 Message-Id: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:31:21 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: deancr@aud.alcatel.com (Charlie R. Dean) To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Md5: d0SKtlpFFPXTdPkTw016Kg== X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does pine have some type of "vacation message" setup? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA08981 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA01499; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:44:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15988; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:43:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA59838 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:34 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA20210 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:33 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-111.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-111.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.111]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA18258; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 10:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Why is pine creating .pine-debug* [was: Re: Pine 4.00 problems] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skramer@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: IP} Message-ID: IP} From: Iztok Polanic IP} To: Pine Discussion Forum IP} Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) IP} Subject: Pine 4.00 problems IP} .... IP} 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine IP} from doing this??? IP} .... See '3.13 What are these .pine-debug files for?' at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA31443 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA02478; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:19:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17054; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:16:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA85066 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:14:47 -0700 Received: from libby.tcnet.org (500@tcnet.org [199.176.180.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA23956 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:14:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by libby.tcnet.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA32176; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:14:21 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:14:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote: > Please tell if I should split it into separate messages next time. > > 1. I have Linux and glibc-2.0.7-13 and had to add -lcrypt manually to > build pine. I too am attempting to build under a glibc system- RedHat 5.0 with glibc-2.0.7-13. I've tried a few things, and likely the large breakfast of caffeine is clouding my memory, but- could you describe how you went about adding -lcrypt manually? Also... there exist lnx, slx, and sl5 builds/ports for Linux... if using shadow passwords and glibc, am i correct in assuming that i need to use slx to build? Many, many thanks- -jeff From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09712 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA15879; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:41:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA10187; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:39:54 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA32810 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:38:28 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26666 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:38:27 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA02864; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Charlie R. Dean" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine is not elm. Pine is also not sendmail. man vacation man sendmail On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Charlie R. Dean wrote: > Does pine have some type of "vacation message" setup? -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05122 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19178; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:40:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA07881; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:39:10 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA65096 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:37:42 -0700 Received: from skipper.robotics.net (cc305594-a.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.3.62.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA07758 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:37:41 -0700 Received: from savage ([207.123.161.41]) by skipper.robotics.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA24030 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:37:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from nathan@robotics.net) Message-Id: <199807092037.QAA24030@skipper.robotics.net> Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 16:38:55 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nathan Stratton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.00 under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: References: <199807091731.MAA14065@rwasic14.rwasics> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: nathan@skipper.robotics.net (Unverified) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I compiled pine last night under FreeBSD 2.2.6 and now when I try to run pine or pico I get the following: ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine P.S. How much would someone need to pay for PGP support? -Nathan ><> Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13363 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19684; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:57:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17257; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:57:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA57344 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:55:39 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA13373 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 13:55:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA03575; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:55:22 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.00 under FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <199807092037.QAA24030@skipper.robotics.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nathan Stratton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Edit ../src/pine4.0/pine/pine.h add "int timeo;" compile pico using "generic unix" type (it wouldnt compile w/ linux for some reason, probably expects glibc2...) Generic unix worked perfectly. cd .../src/pine4.0/pico;make -f makefile.gen cd .../src/pine4.0/pine;make -f makefile.lnx .../src/pine4.0/pico/pico <--binary .../src/pine4.0/pine/pine <--binary This works for some, and doesn't work for others. If you haven't tried it, then it's worth it. If you have tried this, and it didn't work, sorry, can't help ya. On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Nathan Stratton wrote: > I compiled pine last night under FreeBSD 2.2.6 and now when I try to run > pine or pico I get the following: > > ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine > > P.S. How much would someone need to pay for PGP support? > > -Nathan > > ><> > Nathan Stratton Telecom & ISP Consulting > www.robotics.net nathan@robotics.net > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15598 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA10940; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:13:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19134; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:11:44 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46750 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:31 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA01895 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:05:28 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp2-cst203.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.116.250.203]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA04550; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:03:51 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA03411; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:19:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 23:19:26 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Various bugs and suggestions to pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Jeff wrote: > could you describe how you went about adding -lcrypt manually? Also... > there exist lnx, slx, and sl5 builds/ports for Linux... if using > shadow passwords and glibc, am i correct in assuming that i need to > use slx to build? Oops, slx works for me (I previously did lnx), SORRY! I didn't ever know that slx exists, as there was only lnx in 3.96. Tried lnx, got linker errors about crypt, remembered that glibc AFAIK moved crypt into separate library, thought they maybe used some other glibc version? added BASELDFLAGS="-lcrypt" into imap/src/osdep/unix/Makefile under lnx and it worked. But it was my fault, as I should have read six lines above where I added -lcrypt :-) This Makefile says that slx is correct for glibc with shadow passwords. I have no idea about your problems :-( Ah, one more probable bug in pine: pine's Setup Newpassword looks for /bin/passwd, and I have it in /usr/bin/passwd (from passwd-0.50-11.*.rpm). -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15642 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23071; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:16:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00595; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:15:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA72928 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:05 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27961 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA24818 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 4.00 and FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi-- I've tried upgrading to 4.00 on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. "build bsf" seems to compile everything correctly (no errors); however, trying to run pine (or pico, or pilot), I get: ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine Has anyone been able to successfully build pine/4.00 for FreeBSD? And how come there aren't any *-bin.bsf binaries on the ftp server? :) Thanks! Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15811 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA11079; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19439; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:18:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA61626 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:17:26 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21509 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:17:25 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA04542; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:17:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 4.00 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Brian Tiemann X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You people don't read, do you?? I just posted a fix for this. Do I need to do it again??? On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Brian Tiemann wrote: > > Hi-- > > I've tried upgrading to 4.00 on my FreeBSD 2.2.6 system. > "build bsf" seems to compile everything correctly (no errors); however, > trying to run pine (or pico, or pilot), I get: > > ld.so failed: Undefined symbol "_timeo" in pine:pine > > Has anyone been able to successfully build pine/4.00 for FreeBSD? > And how come there aren't any *-bin.bsf binaries on the ftp server? :) > > Thanks! > > Brian > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14652 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23220; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:21:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00958; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:20:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA72880 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:32 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA25614 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA25066 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 4.00 and FreeBSD In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Ken Woods wrote: > You people don't read, do you?? > I just posted a fix for this. I'm sorry-- I should have prefaced my message with the usual "I just subscribed ten minutes ago and didn't see any reference to this subject in the archives". Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14629 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA23374; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA23025; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:24:52 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA65114 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:38 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA22150 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:37 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id QAA23832 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:23:35 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: <199807091409.KAA14611@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Timothy, I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? -teg On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I've read the online/context help, and I'm still not understanding. > > How do I use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ rather than ~/mail/ ? > > TjL, filing this under "non backwards compatible items" > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16588 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA26651; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:32:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA25492; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:31:03 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA46804 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:29:17 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA10759 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:29:16 -0700 Message-Id: <199807100229.WAA18050@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:29:13 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Terry Gray Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) ID: > I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? Sure. Pine uses ~/mail to store mail. I don't want to use that folder, I want to use ~/Unix/pine/mail (to keep my $HOME clean.... I'm one of those people who recompiles programs to use ~/.commandline/whatever.rc rather than ~/.whatever.rc). My .pinerc is also at ~/Unix/pine/pine.rc. I can't seem to figure out how to tell PINE not to use ~/mail/ but use ~/Unix/pine/mail/ so when I do something like: pine -f active I get ~/Unix/pine/mail/active instead of ~/mail/active. Is that more clear? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA18792 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA27306; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:18:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA29764; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:17:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA69158 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:34 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA07341 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:34 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id UAA06740; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:28 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: <199807100229.WAA18050@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, got it. Try putting this in your .pinerc: folder-collections=~/Unix/pine/mail/[] You can also set this from the Setup/Collections screen. (~/mail is indeed Pine's default, and always has been, but you can tell Pine to look in any directory or on remote IMAP servers to find folders.) -teg On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Author: Terry Gray > Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 16:25:55 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) > ID: > > > I'm not understanding the question. Could you elaborate? > > Sure. > > Pine uses ~/mail to store mail. > > I don't want to use that folder, I want to use ~/Unix/pine/mail (to keep my > $HOME clean.... I'm one of those people who recompiles programs to use > ~/.commandline/whatever.rc rather than ~/.whatever.rc). My .pinerc is also > at ~/Unix/pine/pine.rc. > > I can't seem to figure out how to tell PINE not to use ~/mail/ but use > ~/Unix/pine/mail/ so when I do something like: > > pine -f active > > I get ~/Unix/pine/mail/active instead of ~/mail/active. > > Is that more clear? > > TjL > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19339 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA28182; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:27:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28042; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:26:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA57976 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:11 -0700 Received: from aero.iisc.ernet.in (aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA17369 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:06 -0700 Received: from localhost (niraj@localhost) by aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA08961 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Niraj Sachdeva To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Trouble with imap on linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Thanks a lot for bring out pine4.0. It is really good. I compiled it on HPUX10, HPUX9, and Linux. on all of then pine seems to be working fine. but imap does not seem to be working on a linux machine. When i try to logon from any machine, onto a linux machine, using imap (through pine) my login fails. i have even downloaded the imapd-linux.bin.Z precompiled binary from the distribution site, even that failed. However if i keep the old imapd (which came along with pine3.96) everything works other than saving a folder. could you please help me. thanks in advance. niraj \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // (/ @ @ /) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------------------------- | Niraj Sachdeva E-mail: | | Research Scholar niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in | | Department of Aerospace Engineering | | Indian Institute of Science | | Bangalore 560 012 Tel.(off) +91 (0) 80 309 2754 | | INDIA Tel.(res) +91 (0) 80 348 8666 | | | | WWW: http://aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | | WWW: http://asterix.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19383 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA28201; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:29:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA09058; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:28:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA65232 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:44 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.84.238]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA11268 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 21:24:43 -0700 Message-Id: <199807100424.AAA21201@ocalhost> Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:24:36 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine4: confusion over default folder In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Terry Gray Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 20:15:41 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) ID: > OK, got it. Try putting this in your .pinerc: > > folder-collections=~/Unix/pine/mail/[] > > You can also set this from the Setup/Collections screen. Hrm. I have this for 3.96 I wonder why it wasn't kept when I did the switch. Oh well, working now, thanks TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20052 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA29107; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:50:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA29713; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:49:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA30032 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:47:03 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA18401 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 1998 22:47:01 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08628; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 07:45:40 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 10 Jul 1998 07:45:40 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Trouble with imap on linux In-Reply-To: Niraj Sachdeva's message of "Fri, 10 Jul 1998 09:54:05 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Niraj Sachdeva writes: > not seem to be working on a linux machine. When i try to logon from > any machine, onto a linux machine, using imap (through pine) my Hi, hmm, this is strange. It seems to work for me, although I can't 'talk' imap (can anyone point me to a manual, please?). But it compiled fair enough and I am at least able to connect via telnet. I've just tried to access my mailbox with pine(3.96) from another machine with no troubles at all. Norbert, wondering ... -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: OMNIVERSAL AWARENESS?? Oh, YEH!! First you need 4 GALLONS of JELL-O and a BIG WRENCH!!... I think you drop th'WRENCH in the JELL-O as if it was a FLAVOR, or an INGREDIENT... ...or...I...um... WHERE'S the WASHING MACHINES? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25144 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA02739; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:50:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA07416; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:47:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA21238 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:46:01 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA00424 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:46:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA04394 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:45:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:45:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 509 bytes mailbox with one crap-message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmm, why I am getting this new "control" message in my mailboxes from 4.00. Can this be shut off? Or do I have to go back to good old 3.96 to get rid of it. My wmmail constantly reports that I have 1 mail now even though I have no "real" mail... very annoying... -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA27525 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:30:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA22679; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:29:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA02047; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:29:06 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA30162 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:27:15 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA06768 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:27:14 -0700 Received: from slip139-92-33-7.lju.si.ibm.net (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-7.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.7]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA77638 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 13:27:11 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 15:28:31 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imapd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! Why am I getting this when I start pine: IMAP 15:24:53 7/10 mm_log warn: Mailbox vulnerable - error creating /var/spool/ etc........ but I don't use imap. Any suggestions??? Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA01361 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01812; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:38:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA27234; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:36:05 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA24550 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01480 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:27 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id MAA13341 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:34:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15769; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:34:18 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:34:18 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pico: long line wrapping and truncation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The last version of Pico that I used came with Pine 3.96. The new version with Pine 4.00 is improved, even more improved than the FAQ indicates. The last version of Pico would wrap lines that were more than 255 characters long, even when wrap was turned of (using the -w command-line argument). The FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/3.96-to-4.00.html states that moving from 3.96 to 4.00... "Pico 255 character line length limit: wrap instead of truncate" Actually, I just turned off wrap and brought in a line that was thousands of characters long, and Pico didn't wrap it at 255, it kept the full long line intact. Hallelujah! Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA20977 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA13944; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:04:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA14793; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 01:02:04 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA17514 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:02:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA22003 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 00:02:15 -0700 Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA13183; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:57:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA07539; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:56:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA24402 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:46:00 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.u.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id XAA21466 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:45:59 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id XAA09498; Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:45:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 23:44:59 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Attention: Please update your imapd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@u.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just after Pine 4.00 was released, we were made aware of a security problem with the imapd server that is included in the Pine 4.00 distribution. This will be fixed in the Pine 4.01 maintenance release, but in the mean time, if you are using the UW IMAP server, please update it with the following distribution: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z We don't have new imapd binaries available yet. Pine itself is not affected. -teg ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA12320 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA14870; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:21:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA25415; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:18:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA58374 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:16:30 -0700 Received: from aero.iisc.ernet.in (niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA14559 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 02:16:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (niraj@localhost) by aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA29827 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:46:22 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 14:46:22 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Niraj Sachdeva To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Trouble with imap on linux In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello I had earlier posted a problem that i faced trying to access my mail on a Linux machine from anyother machine, using pine4.0 and imap4.0. i have now compile imap-4.1-FINAL and that fails too... both of them just keep asking my for my passwd and this process repeats itself till it login fails. It then gives me that error that Authentication failed. please help me. thanks in advance. niraj \\\|/// \\ ~ ~ // (/ @ @ /) ----------------------------oOOo-(_)-oOOo------------------------------- | Niraj Sachdeva E-mail: | | Research Scholar niraj@aero.iisc.ernet.in | | Department of Aerospace Engineering | | Indian Institute of Science | | Bangalore 560 012 Tel.(off) +91 (0) 80 309 2754 | | INDIA Tel.(res) +91 (0) 80 348 8666 | | | | WWW: http://aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | | WWW: http://asterix.aero.iisc.ernet.in/~niraj/home.html | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17787 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA24470; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:04:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA26988; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:02:40 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA78184 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:34 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA27739 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:33 -0700 Received: from sh.diac.com (shell.diac.com [209.64.40.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA06383 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 16:59:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by sh.diac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA04648 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:14 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 17:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Question (ID KX7LX) In-Reply-To: <199807112342.QAA04730@lists5.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: sh.diac.com: ekwall2 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 11 Jul 1998, University of Washington ListProcessor wrote: -snip- End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. --------------------------------------------- Is this here? or comp.mail.pine@u.washington.edu ekwall2@diac.com: You are not subscribed to pine-info@u.washington.edu. --------------------------------------------- snip Hi all, :) Is there a FAQ or archive of past questions? Got it! Thanks. pine-info. Newbie here, and have read all of the help files locally for Pine 3.96 QUESTION: I have a list of people in my address book, in a distribution listing, IS THERE A QUICK WAY TO TURN OFF THE "TO:" so that each reciepient doesn't get flooded with the 30-50 other TO: listers names? ------------------- Hope this makes sense.. Rather than have screen-fulls of TO:names@domains etc, in the header of each e-mail, I would think one could just have TO: or CC: "Entire X group, Full list NOT DISCLOSED" then message somehow. How? Thanks in advance. -=se=- steve ekwall ekwall2@diac.com If "Lcc" is part of the answer, I only get a CC: in my forward to header, how does one turn on Lcc?? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22382 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA26414; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA15736; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:10:10 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA87412 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:13 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA16730 for ; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:13 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27794>; Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:04:01 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul11.200401pdt.27794@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jul 1998 20:08:03 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug/enhancement request in PINE 4.00 w.r.t. compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am just trying PINE 4.00, and I would like to suggest that the following is a bug. after enabling the feature [X] compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs I typed in fred2 into the To: field and got the following error: [ To field: Address for "fred2" not in addressbook ] Since this used to do what I wanted I disabled the feature, and typed in the fred2 again. This time it expanded to the full user name To : Fred Moore I have multiple address books, so when I type ^T I get a menu PERSONAL Personal AddressBook in .addressbook ECS Personal AddressBook in /apps/general/lib/email/ecs_wbook and one of them I inherited from our IT folks to support people that are using ECS mail. When I search for fred2 in the ECS book I find igc# Moore, Fred fred2@tc.fluke.com Since fred2 does get expanded from an address book to Fred Moore it would be nice to see it work the same when the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs feature is enabled I can see that the definition/help file for this feature indicates that the unqualified name must match a nickname, but perhaps you could also allow it to search the address book for the user-name@user-domain, (my user-domain is set to "tc.fluke.com") Would this break the intend of the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs, since the user-name that I desired was in one of my address books? I acknowledge that I could write a tool to 'fix' the ECS address book, to change the nicknames to not be the machine generated garbage the IT needed to use to allow for the general case, but setting the nickname to the user name when there was no conflict, but it just seemed that since the users full name was in my address book and it did get expanded correctly when the compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs feature was disabled I expected it to still work. I'm not asking for this to work when the user name gets expanded because it was in a password file, just when it is found in the address book. Thanks for your thoughts.... David Dyck ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA28113 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA00506; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA16715; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:43:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA57946 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:40:38 -0700 Received: from thales.math.auth.gr (root@thales.math.auth.gr [155.207.114.61]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA12708 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 02:40:36 -0700 Received: from math.auth.gr (root@thales.math.auth.gr [155.207.114.61]) by thales.math.auth.gr (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA11704 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:44:53 +0300 Message-Id: <35A88447.4008DECD@math.auth.gr> Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:39:19 +0300 Reply-To: jpis@math.auth.gr Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Giannis Pistikopoulos To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: help with .lock files on Linux! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello and greetings from Greece, I have compiled Pine 4.0 for a Linux system and I have the following problem: When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail directory but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to give write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning that the inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. Also, I get an e-mail from mailer-deamon, when I issue the frm command I get this: Mail System Internal Data DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA This happens everytime I try to run Pine 4.0 so I still use an older version. What I would like to know is how can anyone tell pine to create its .lock files in another directory such as the /tmp directory where it will have no problems. I searched every page I could find, found a lot of info on .lock files but I was unable to find a way to tell pine where to store those files. Thanx a lot for any help! Giannis Pistikopoulos Student of Applied Mathematics jpis@math.auth.gr http://www.math.auth.gr/~jpis ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29071 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA13048; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:34:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA23128; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:33:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA44144 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:31:37 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA17210 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 03:31:36 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-249.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.249]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA129422; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:31:28 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:32:57 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35A88447.4008DECD@math.auth.gr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Giannis Pistikopoulos X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Giannis Pistikopoulos wrote: > When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail > directory > but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to > give > write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning > that the > inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. > I'm having the same problem as you. As you already told, this can only be fixed that you add your user to mail group or enable write permission for everyone. > > I searched every page I could find, found a lot of info on .lock files > but I was > unable to find a way to tell pine where to store those files. > Thanx a lot for any help! > This is also a bad feature of Pine 4.00 IMHO and annoying. There are some great features, but some are really buggy (lock file, "don't delete this mail etc.") So my best answer to your question would be to uninstall Pine 4.00 and install Pine 3.96 (or any version you prefer), because we have to wait that all these problems would be fixed in 4.05 (I can just hope). xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA29548 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA01398; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA17467; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:02:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA78324 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:00:16 -0700 Received: from out2.ibm.net (out2.ibm.net [165.87.194.229]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA29437 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:00:16 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (slip139-92-33-249.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.249]) by out2.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA67596 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:59:43 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:00:01 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: new feature MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've searched the Pine 4.00 features, but I didn't found anything about compressing mail folders (saved-messages etc.) Will be this included in new version of pine??? Tnx! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01527 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA19401; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:07:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA24476; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:06:19 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA55882 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:04:18 -0700 Received: from jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (root@jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com [206.30.146.193]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA27194 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 13:04:16 -0700 Received: from jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (jkinsley@jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com [206.30.146.193]) by jasmin.beyond-the-illusion.com (8.9.0/bticc-5.0) with SMTP id QAA22100 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:14 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:04:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: J Kinsley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: news and pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Last night I upgraded from pine 3.96 to pine 4.00, and now I can not read/access any of the news groups I am active on which are in my /~.newsrc file. I run my own news server (INN-2.0), with a small selection of newsgroups. I have been unable to access it by any means using pine 4.00. Could someone please tell me how to restore my news folder to the way it was setup in pine 3.96. Regards, Jarrod Kinsley -- "J Kinsley" *********************************************************************** ** On a planet that increasingly resembles one huge Maximum *** ** Security Prison, the only intelligent [and logical] choice is to *** ** plan a Jail Break -- Robert Anton Wilson (Cosmic Trigger II) *** *********************************************************************** [IX] >> (([I]+[II])+>([VI]+[XIV]+[XI])+>([V]+[XXI])) => (I=II+V) >>> IX ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA25293 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07800; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:06:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA03680; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:05:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA19686 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14957 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:11 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA07765 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:04:08 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17264; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:03:58 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:03:58 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: alphabetization in address book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It was dissapointing to add an address to my address book and see that it was stuck into the list at essentially a random point. A section of the address book is shown here: bgaserv BGA Network listserv Majordomo@bga.org bgnews BGNews bgnews@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu michelle Niemeyer, Michelle psymn@showme.missouri.edu ziggy Bialzik, Ziggy zigzag@macc.wisc.edu laurabie Bierut, Laura laura@newhar.wustl.edu The names beginning with B were already there in proper alphabetical order, but I added Niemeyer, Michelle, and she was shoved into the Bs instead of the Ns. The rest of the list is alphabetized by "full name", so why not the new entry? I tried quitting and restarting and it's still there. I think that qualifies as a bug, unless there is some new option I have to set. Regards, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA02585 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA20091; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:13:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28190; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:12:23 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA27688 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA04571 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:46 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA07845 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 14:10:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17268; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:10:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:10:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to confuse your mailer.) >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) >From: Mail System Internal Data >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 >Status: RO > >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created >with the data reset to initial values. What will happen if I do delete it? What is it doing? It sounds so dangerous and it looks so useless. I know that it changes every time I make a change to a folder. I find it very unappealing. Do I need to have this? It makes it so that everytime I login, my computer reports "you have mail" even when this invisible (in Pine) message is the only one I have. So I hope it's doing something I really want. If I go in and edit some part of the folder using some kind of editor, will that make for some conflict of the folder with its lead message? Will it cause problems? Scared in Missouri, :-) Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA03529 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA21496; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA21047; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:12:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA82272 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:11:30 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA05160 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:11:29 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25669; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA23098; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id TAA06416; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:11:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:10:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the > beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to > confuse your mailer.) > > >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 > >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) > >From: Mail System Internal Data > >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 > >Status: RO I can't give you a definitive answer, but I can tell you a little. I first saw the above message when I was playing with the UW IMAP server a few months ago. And given the X-IMAP header, it seems pretty obvious that they are related. I believe (since I haven't examined the c-client code much) that this is part of how Pine can set the Answered flaged on postponed messages. If you were to look at your mailbox now, you'd note that Pine has started adding a couple more headers to all of your messages. One of them is an X-UID header, which I assume Pine uses to find the message you were originally replying to. My guess is that the X-IMAP header in the message you've quoted contains X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 ---------- ---------- a timestamp | | | a msg uid number --------| I would guess the timestamp had something to do with the last modification time on the folder, and the UID is the last message UID given out. For instance, in my mailbox the second number is 380 and the last message has X-UID: 380 ... coincidence? I think not :) I don't know what else it's used for. I would guess that if you deleted at most you might find it annoying--pine4 would recreate it, and any information you would have lost would likely only be "annoying" and not serious :) I hope this helped, somewhat. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04936 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA23876; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:48:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA10931; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:47:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA17424 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:46:29 -0700 Received: from mailjay.creighton.edu (mailjay.creighton.edu [147.134.2.126]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA28195 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:46:28 -0700 Received: from bluejay.creighton.edu by mailjay.creighton.edu with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA217857985; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:25 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dayoung@creighton.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm going away for a month. How do I get off the forum so that my mailbox doesn't over flow? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA06196 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA13361; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:15:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09070; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:13:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA59812 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:12:14 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA20862 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 1998 22:12:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA01292 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:12:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: postponing messages from pine-info (was: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 21:46:25 -0500 (CDT) >Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu >From: dayoung@creighton.edu >X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >I'm going away for a month. How do I get off the forum so that my mailbox >doesn't over flow? The wrong way is to post an off-topic message like this and annoy everyone on the list. You didn't even bother to change the Subject! The right way is to take a look at the headers and figure out which list server is used. As you can see, it's ListProc. So, send a command to listproc@u.washington.edu. Don't know what the commands are? Send a help command. Commands are sent in the BODY of a message, only one per line left justified. Delete your .sig. Leave the Subject blank. The command is set pine-info mail postpone To resume set pine-info mail To learn about the set command help set See the Sender in the headers? That's the address of a person. If you have trouble, contact the list owner at that address. Never post questions like this to this or any other mailing list. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA07236 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA26771; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:17:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA01669; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:16:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA39894 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:15:13 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id AAA22388 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:15:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA04620 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA09052 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA28005; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:07:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA03046; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:06:50 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA58392 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:05:22 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (flo@plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA10026 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:05:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA26029 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:05:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: MM> Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the MM> beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to MM> confuse your mailer.) MM> MM> >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 MM> >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) MM> >From: Mail System Internal Data MM> >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA MM> >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 MM> >Status: RO MM> > MM> >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not MM> >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. MM> >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created MM> >with the data reset to initial values. And if cat two folders together, what happens? Now the second 'pseudo'-mail DOES show up in pine. Which one does pine use? Can I delete the second one? What should be the policy on the second one? Should pine delete it automatically? Should pine tell me I have a 'corrupt' folder? (sigh) Florian ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA11087 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id EAA29211; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:01:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA04491; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:00:18 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA56058 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:58:23 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA12633 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:58:17 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-73.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.73]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA01182 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:57:43 +0200 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (qrczak@qrnik.knm.org.pl [127.0.0.1]) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA26542 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:58:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:58:14 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: More bugs in pine 4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 1. Pine sometimes splits References line in the middle of Message-ID! Example: References: <359C917D.69FC@orient.uw.edu.pl> <359CE0F0.4E61@orient.uw.edu.pl> <6o31tl$iv0$4@kerigma.cyf.gov.pl> 2. Pine makes a link from a simple word "www" or "wwww", which obviously can't be a web address. 3. The option enable-exit-via-lessthan-command seems to be ignored. 4. Pine no longer shows "to: name.of.a.newsgroup" instead of "My Name". It works only for emails. Anyway, this useful behavior is often confusing for beginners. I think it might be better documented? Or, as they generally don't read the documentation (asking on news:*.linux instead), maybe it could be a switchable option, off by default. 5. Subjects in a newsgroup seem to be sorted before MIME-unescaping (at least with OrderedSubj sort), putting =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Something?= far away from Something. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12543 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA18756; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:03:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA14561; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:01:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA86768 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:00:24 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA03343 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:00:23 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA09881; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:59:35 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:59:34 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Iztok Polanic wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Giannis Pistikopoulos wrote: > > > When I run it it tries to create the .lock file in the /var/spool/mail > > directory > > but it has no access there and I don't think it would be a great idea to > > give > > write access to everyone in that directory. So it gives me a warning > > that the > > inbox is vulnerable etc. etc. because it couldn't create the .lock file. > > > > I'm having the same problem as you. As you already told, this can only be > fixed that you add your user to mail group or enable write permission for > everyone. Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the user separate from pine. -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA07499 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA00929; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:10:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21275; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:09:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA86980 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:07:49 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA07872 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:07:49 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA09991; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:07:24 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA068B.A676DC07@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:07:23 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Florian Kolbe wrote: > > On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > > MM> Why does the new version of Pine add a message like the following to the > MM> beginning of every folder? (I added the '>'s along the left so as not to > MM> confuse your mailer.) > MM> > MM> >From MAILER-DAEMON Sun Jul 12 12:28:57 1998 > MM> >Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:28:57 -0500 (CDT) > MM> >From: Mail System Internal Data > MM> >Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > MM> >X-IMAP: 0900019774 0000000063 > MM> >Status: RO > MM> > > MM> >This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > MM> >a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > MM> >If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > MM> >with the data reset to initial values. > > And if cat two folders together, what happens? Now the second 'pseudo'-mail > DOES show up in pine. Which one does pine use? Can I delete the second one? > What should be the policy on the second one? Should pine delete it automatically? > Should pine tell me I have a 'corrupt' folder? I have been using the Sun IMAP server for months, accessing it with both Pine (3.96) and Netscape Messenger. The IMAP server creates these entries for internal housekeeping, and does not appear to serve them out to the mail client. I have deleted them as well as concatenated multiple files (folders) together without any ill effects (except perhaps a small performance hit as the IMAP server re-generates them). If these entries are being generated in LOCAL mail spool files, I suggest that Pine 4.0 is using IMAP internally to access these files. (just my guess based on observations and comments made to this list). I was actually planning on adopting Pine 4.0, but have not had the time yet. -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13941 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19023; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:22:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA21736; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:21:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA44074 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:20:20 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA04464 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:20:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06667; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:20:11 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:20:11 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: <35AA068B.A676DC07@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > If these entries are being generated in LOCAL mail spool files, I > suggest that Pine 4.0 is using IMAP internally to access these files. > (just my guess based on observations and comments made to this list). Question is now: How do I turn of this unwanted "feature". -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA06917 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19138; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:32:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA17112; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:30:13 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA71874 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:28:57 -0700 Received: from trixie.mse.jhu.edu (trixie.mse.jhu.edu [128.220.8.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA09032 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:28:56 -0700 Received: from pembroke.mse.jhu.edu ([128.220.8.107]) by trixie.mse.jhu.edu with SMTP id <39193-696>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:28:51 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:22:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: timmo@skeeter.pembroke.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! Can you be more specific? Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? Which applications are having problems? -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA14152 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA19310; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:45:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA22611; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:43:47 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA24610 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:42:30 -0700 Received: from gatekeeper.triple-p.nl (gatekeeper.triple-p.nl [192.92.134.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA09830 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:42:28 -0700 Received: (from ftp@localhost) by gatekeeper.triple-p.nl (8.7.6/8.7.3) id PAA00721; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:40:40 +0100 (WET DST) Received: from ciint.ciint.nl(194.178.100.1) by gatekeeper.triple-p.nl via smap (V1.3) id sma000687; Mon Jul 13 15:40:27 1998 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa27239; 13 Jul 98 15:41 WST Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa01830; 13 Jul 98 15:42 WST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:42:10 +0200 (WST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Richard Gering To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This > would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the > user separate from pine. This could indeed work, but... the user could technically do a shell escape from Pine and delete other people's mail, something you would not be able to do when the directory permissions are set to 1777. A public writable directory with the sticky bit on REALLY isn't as bad as some people think! By the way, switching back to Pine 3.96 or earlier does NOT help, since these releases require the same semantics to work properly. The only difference is that they don't show you the error message, something you can resemble in Pine 4.00 by enabling quell-lock-failure-warnings in the configuration setup. Be warned, though, that you're living dangerously if you do. But if you lived happily that way in Pine 3.96... Regards, - Richard. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | If all else fails, read the manual... | | Computer Industries International | | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA12139 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA01523; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:53:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA17877; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:51:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA16376 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:50:37 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA06329 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 06:50:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id PAA06913; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:50:21 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:50:21 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tim DiLauro X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Tim DiLauro wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! > > Can you be more specific? > > Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? No. > Which applications are having problems? wmmail, BitchX, asmail, and all other programs that tells you if you got mail. These now tell me that I got one mail. Ok I can ignore it, but it's annoying when I don't want it. I want to see the "No Mail" icon instead of the spinning letter. Also BitchX (IRC client) tells me that I got one unread mail waiting all the time. I don't think I want to patch all these program just because Pine insist on having that stupid INTERNAL DATA. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08854 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA02392; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:43:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA10351; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:41:46 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA86834 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:40:25 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA23783 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:40:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA07233 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:40:26 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:40:26 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Henrik Edlund >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:15:10 +0200 (CEST) >I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER INTERTAL >DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. There's been a ton of discussion on comp.mail.pine and in the mailing list since the new version was released. Just read the messages for information. I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09373 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA02580; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:51:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA25063; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:50:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA19490 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:49:00 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14896 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 07:48:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA07431; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:48:39 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > There's been a ton of discussion on comp.mail.pine and in the mailing list since > the new version was released. Just read the messages for information. I have no news access. > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15546 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA21328; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:30:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA13694; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:29:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA24670 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:28:14 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA11756 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 08:28:14 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-59.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.59]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA32898; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:03 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:29:33 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: help with .lock files on Linux! In-Reply-To: <35AA04B6.B4655ABE@unifiedtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paul Kraus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Paul Kraus wrote: > Have you tried making the pine executable SGID (set GID) mail ? This > would allow the pine program to write to /var/spool/mail, but not the > user separate from pine. > This is an old "trick", but it is very vulnerable AFAIK! IMHO this shouldn't be happening!!!! Bye. xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA16562 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA05305; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:30:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA24065; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:21:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA21052 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:20:37 -0700 Received: from su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE (su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE [137.248.122.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA24239 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:20:35 -0700 Received: from thuban (thuban [137.248.121.15]) by su1236.Mathematik.Uni-Marburg.DE (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA00975 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:20:30 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:20:28 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sebastian Benoit To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: "you have mail" message at login MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: benoit@thuban X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 4 uses a Mail "DONT DELETE THIS..." in the Inbox. unfortunatly this means that a user will get the message "you have mail" when loging in. Right now I want to expand the relevant login-script to check not only for mail, but if there is mail check if the last (and only) mail in the inbox is the pine-info-mail and then print out a message ... Does anyone know a better solution ? Has someone written something like that ? (I have searched the list archives but found nothing on this subject) Please mail answers to me, I will post a summary. Thanks, Sebastian Benoit -------------------------------------------------------------------------- This email is restricted from being used for the design or development of nuclear, chemical, biological, weapons or missile technology without the prior permission of the U.S. Government. - Sebastian Benoit - benoit@mathematik.uni-marburg.de - http://www.mathematik.uni-marburg.de/~benoit ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17533 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24229; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:14:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA01578; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:10:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA16286 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA01744 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:42 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA05167 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 09:25:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA26110 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:25:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:25:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine 4.0 & FreeBSD MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There is a problem with the FreeBSD version of pico. ffclose causes the errore message "Error preparing to close file: Invalid arguement" to be displayed frequently. I notice on usenet others are reporting the same problem under BSDi. One person has posted a patch for this but it seems to me that it is just commenting out the if statement that generates the message which would not seem to be a completely wise thing to do. If no one has found a solution to this I guess the only thing to do is to fall back to 3.96. On another topic, the documentation should be beefed up a bit in regards to proper access perms for the mail spool directory and specifically to FreeBSD a note should be made about the libpico.so.1.3 file needing to be moved inot a system lib directory. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17705 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:38:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24939; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:37:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA04229; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:37:12 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA36160 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:47 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA26272 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA19652; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:42 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 10:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we may have a bug of some sort. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > It was dissapointing to add an address to my address book and see that it > was stuck into the list at essentially a random point. A section of the > address book is shown here: > > bgaserv BGA Network listserv Majordomo@bga.org > bgnews BGNews bgnews@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > michelle Niemeyer, Michelle psymn@showme.missouri.edu > ziggy Bialzik, Ziggy zigzag@macc.wisc.edu > laurabie Bierut, Laura laura@newhar.wustl.edu > > The names beginning with B were already there in proper alphabetical > order, but I added Niemeyer, Michelle, and she was shoved into the Bs > instead of the Ns. The rest of the list is alphabetized by "full name", > so why not the new entry? I tried quitting and restarting and it's still > there. > > I think that qualifies as a bug, unless there is some new option I have to > set. > > Regards, > > Mike > > Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. > Department of Psychology > 210 McAlester Hall > University of Missouri--Columbia > Columbia, MO 65211 > Phone: (573) 882-5671 > Fax: (573) 882-7710 > e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu > web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19421 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26109; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:15:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA01898; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:14:48 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27764 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:25 -0700 Received: from trixie.mse.jhu.edu (trixie.mse.jhu.edu [128.220.8.14]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA14338 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:24 -0700 Received: from chimchim.mse.jhu.edu ([128.220.8.95]) by trixie.mse.jhu.edu with SMTP id <39193-692>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:13:23 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:13:08 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tim DiLauro To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: timmo@racerx.mse.jhu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? > > They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! This, I believe, is a valid point. There are performance implications as well. I wonder why UW-IMAP doesn't use a separate companion file to track the info in that "INTERNAL DATA" mail message. The UW IMAP4 server versions that use this format are considerably slower when batch storing messages. I suspect (but definitely have NOT proven!) that the internal data rewriting is involved. Can anyone enlighten me/us on this? Thanks. -timmo -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim DiLauro Milton S. Eisenhower Library Library Systems Jack Johns Hopkins University (410) 516-5263 3400 N. Charles Street timmo@jhu.edu Baltimore, MD 21218 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19348 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA26678; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:33:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA23055; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:32:55 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA26490 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:44 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA00554 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:44 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27799>; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:27:19 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:31:31 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for pointing me to comp.mail.pine, I had forgotten about it. I have used pine for quite a while now, but it is not the only way I access my email. I don't like the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA message I could perhaps learn to live with it if the message were more descriptive. When I first encountered the message, I couldn't determine 'who' put it in my mailbox. I would like the message to include "This message placed in you inbox by Pine 4.00" as this would have helped me determine where the message was comming from. I would like the message to include a pointer to the technical documentation, a web page or some specification that stated in more detail why the header was there, and what would happen if it were deleted, and how it was being used... I would like to have this message documented in the technical documentation, as I couldn't find any reference to this user visable change anywhere in the technical documentation. I to would like to be able to turn of the message, or is pine itself using the data in the header - since the documention doesn't stated that it is used by pine, and it's off in the imap side of the sources, and I access my mailbox as a mailbox file over NFS, I couldn't determine in a few minutes if it was really required. after scanning comp.mail.pine I see a few people that state that the MUA shouldn't be accessing the spool file, but that is what I have been doing for ages, and have been successful without this cryptic message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA10612 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09537; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:47:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA02018; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:46:45 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24764 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:45:24 -0700 Received: from mailhost.unifiedtech.com (paulaner.unifiedtech.com [205.219.167.102]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id LAA17920 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:45:23 -0700 Received: from unifiedtech.com by mailhost.unifiedtech.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15679; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:45:16 -0400 Message-Id: <35AA55BD.A5AFA3A8@unifiedtech.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:45:17 -0400 Reply-To: Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Kraus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA References: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: pfk@unifiedtech.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just for comparison, here is what the Sun IMAP server puts at the head of our mail files : > From Mon Jul 13 14:39:22 1998 > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:39:22 -0400 (EDT) > From: Postmaster > Subject: IMAP4 Server Data-DO NOT DELETE > Content-Length: 92 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Status: RO > X-IMAP: 884285959 19382 > > This message is from the IMAP server. > VERY IMPORTANT Server DATA. > > > > > > > > > > > >--END+PSEUDO-- sims is Solstice Internet Mail Server (Sun's product name) I wonder if the X-IMAP information is transportable amoung IMAP servers ? I got this by head'ing my mail file. I use IMAP to access it so I never see thin in my mail client (the server never serves it out). -- -------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------| Paul Kraus email Paul.Kraus@unifiedtech.com IT Engineering voice +1 518 283 1003 ext. 2778 UNIFIED Technologies fax +1 518 283 1189 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA20096 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09657; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:50:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA02177; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:49:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA24692 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:32 -0700 Received: from lionking.org (btman@blacker-99.caltech.edu [131.215.86.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09927 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (btman@localhost) by lionking.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA15582 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 11:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Brian Tiemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Deleting attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: lionking.org: btman owned process doing -bs X-Sender: btman@lionking.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi... At some point during the beta cycle of 4.0, I asked whether a feature was in the works for deleting attachments from messages while keeping the messages themselves. The reason I'd love this feature is that sometimes people send me large files, accompanied by text, and I want to use the file and get it out of my inbox so it isn't so huge-- and yet be able to reply to the text later, at my leisure. I was assured that this feature was planned for 4.0, much to my pleasure. So, now it's out, and it seems that the "Delete attachment" feature only applies to saving the messages to other folders-- it doesn't do anything to delete the attachment out of the mail spool itself. This sort of ignores what I thought was the whole point of the feature. Is there a particular reason why it's being implemented this way? Is there the possibility that full deletion of attachments might be a part of a later release? Please don't take this as a complaint or a demand for more from a free software effort. :) I greatly appreciate the hard work that the pine developers have put into 4.00, and I applaud the ongoing project. Thanks! Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21216 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA28925; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:56:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA07464; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:55:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA75484 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:54:14 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA25203 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 12:54:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA26423 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Getting rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: <98Jul13.112719pdt.27799@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > after scanning comp.mail.pine I see a few people that state > that the MUA shouldn't be accessing the spool file, but > that is what I have been doing for ages, and have been > successful without this cryptic message. I've seen those as well and can't fathom why they think that should be the case. Its a fallacy as far as I can tell. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22362 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12435; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:23:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA13055; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:22:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA29650 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:21:14 -0700 Received: from sh.diac.com (shell.diac.com [209.64.40.12]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12365 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 13:21:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (ekwall2@localhost) by sh.diac.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA14184 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:17:33 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:17:33 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Ekwall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sh.diac.com: ekwall2 owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Tim DiLauro wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > > I have searched the docs and the Pine online help and looked in the > > config. I can't find any option to turn off this devil's invention "FOLDER > > INTERTAL DATA". It's screwing up all my other mail applications. Why must > > Pine 4.00 do this. I thought that when I upgraded I would get a better > > product. Now it looks like I have to go back to 3.96... > > Can anyone enlighten me if I missed anything... Please!!! > > Can you be more specific? > > Why does it trouble you so? Can't your other applications ignore it? No. > Which applications are having problems? wmmail, BitchX, asmail, and all other programs that tells you if you got mail. These now tell me that I got one mail. Ok I can ignore it, but it's annoying when I don't want it. I want to see the "No Mail" icon instead of the spinning letter. Also BitchX (IRC client) tells me that I got one unread mail waiting all the time. I don't think I want to patch all these program just because Pine insist on having that stupid INTERNAL DATA. ------------------------ I'm running 3.96, so I can't try this, but has anyone tired just V/reading the message and leaving it alone? (or even "A"nswer it) and not deleting it to stop your spinning letter? bandaid on a broken arm I know if it works just hopeful thinking i guess :) -=se=- ekwall2@diac.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23873 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14160; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:27:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA09894; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:26:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29872 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:24:47 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA21928 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:24:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18525; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:33 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config > screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we > may have a bug of some sort. I do have it set to sort by full names. In fact, all other entries are sorted by full name. So it's just the one I added. If it helps any, I added the addressbook entry using the "take" command. Regards, Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23926 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA14297; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:31:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA01371; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:29:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA17622 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:28:45 -0700 Received: from pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA27694 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 14:28:40 -0700 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by pilsener.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA25222 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA42290 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:37 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Henrik Edlund wrote: > > I don't believe you that it's screwing up other mail applications, given that > > it's formatted like an ordinary mail message. Can you demonstrate this? > > They are reporting I have 1 mail when I have none! OK, this I believe, but it's a pain in the neck, not a screw-up. The following explanation is adapted from the one I send to users on a regular basis when they pose the same question in Helpdesk e-mail (we recently upgraded to IMAP on Pine3.96): "Pine has recently been set up to use IMAP protocol to access your INBOX. The IMAP server likes to have a "MAIL SYSTEM internal data file" in each users INBOX. When you use IMAP/pine you will not see this message displayed in your INBOX index listing. Even though you can't see it, your system will probably tell you about it - either with a 'You have new mail' message when your INBOX appears empty, or with a 'You have x messages' (which turns out to be x-1). Here at the U of A, the login process likes to check the /var/spool/mail file system to see if you have any mail. Because we have /var/spool/mail NFS mounted, you get told you have mail (ie. the MAIL SYSTEM internal data file). If you're using non-IMAPed e-mail software, like Eudora or Netscape, this message will continue to appear. It's not a real message, and when you delete it it's not really deleted - the non-IMAP software is simply able to see it, whereas if you open your e-mail in Pine (which is IMAPed), the message will not be visible." I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard "And how are you?" said Winnie-the-Pooh. Eeyore shook his head from side to side. "Not very how," he said. "I don't seem to have felt at all how for a long time." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25895 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA03842; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA14592; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:54:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA59790 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:52:15 -0700 Received: from jasper.somtel.com (darren@jasper.somtel.com [206.139.114.254]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA03993 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 15:52:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (darren@localhost) by jasper.somtel.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA26613 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 18:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Darren Henderson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Lea wrote: > I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... It explains it but it really doesn't justify it. Not that thats your job:) The imap daemon really should not be doing things like this with the inbox imo. By definition its for mail, data regarding mail should be kept else where. Many many users use multiple applications which interact with this file, its a bit arogent for pine's stuff to assume otherwise. If this is a defined, required part of imap than perhaps imap users should use a seperate mail spool directory and be made aware of this quirk. ______________________________________________________________________ Darren Henderson darren@jasper.somtel.com Help fight junk e-mail, visit http://www.cauce.org/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26232 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA17256; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:23:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA20093; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:21:50 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA64926 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:19:49 -0700 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA06643 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:19:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id BAA03259; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:19:28 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 01:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Argh... Gettint rid of the FOLDER INTERNAL DATA (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Darren Henderson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Darren Henderson wrote: > > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Lea wrote: > > > I hope the above is some help as far as explanation is concerned... > > It explains it but it really doesn't justify it. Not that thats your job:) > > The imap daemon really should not be doing things like this with the inbox > imo. By definition its for mail, data regarding mail should be kept else > where. Many many users use multiple applications which interact with this > file, its a bit arogent for pine's stuff to assume otherwise. If this is a > defined, required part of imap than perhaps imap users should use a > seperate mail spool directory and be made aware of this quirk. Right! I been browsing the source tonight a bit trying to see if it's easy to get rid of this behavior. No luck yet finding it. If anyone has a patch that removes this feel free to send it my way. -- Henrik Edlund http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26735 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA18401; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:06:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21624; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:04:41 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA36338 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:12 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA10971 for ; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 17:03:10 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA18460; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07942; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id UAA21349; Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:03:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alphabetization in address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Mike Miller wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > Try looking at the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" in the Setup/Config > > screen. If it is set to "dont-sort" that would explain it. Otherwise, we > > may have a bug of some sort. > > > I do have it set to sort by full names. In fact, all other entries are > sorted by full name. So it's just the one I added. > > If it helps any, I added the addressbook entry using the "take" command. I added "Miller, Mike" to my address book with the Take command, and it was added out-of-order. I changed addrbook-sort-rule to by nickname, then back to fullname, and the sort order was correct. Pine 4.00, Solaris 2.6 with gcc. With enable-vi-keys and composer-word-erase patches. ;) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:33:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA00131 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:33:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA25877; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:29:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA00389; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:29:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA65012 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:25:38 -0700 Received: from starbreeze.knoware.nl (starbreeze.knoware.nl [195.64.36.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA15044 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 02:25:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hugo@localhost) by starbreeze.knoware.nl (8.9.1/8.9.0.Beta3) with SMTP id LAA10063 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:25:28 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:25:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Spark To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: preparing to close file: invalid argument MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, I have a (strange) problem with pine 4.00 on my BSDI 3.1 box. Whem i am editing a message every once in a while pine reports the error "preparing to close file: invalid argument" and it freezes for a few seconds. I can continue typing and sending messages.. The newsgroup didn't have any answers, so maybe the list has one? BTW somebody also had the problem on a BSDI 2.1 box according to his posting. Greetings and thanks for any replies, Hugo -------------------------------------------------------------- The issue is not wether you're paranoid, the issue is wether you're paranoid enough. -- Quote out of the movie 'Strange Days' -------------------------------------------------------------- Hugo Trippaers email prive: hugo@starbreeze.knoware.nl Knoware Sysadm email werk : trippaers@knoware.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA04490 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA28576; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:13:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA04387; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:12:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA70988 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:08:57 -0700 Received: from GroupWise.Kean.Edu (GroupWise.Kean.Edu [131.125.1.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA08041 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:08:56 -0700 Received: from Kdomain1-Message_Server by GroupWise.Kean.Edu with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:05:03 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:04:37 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Yahnig" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.0 and mail.txt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello everyone. I have just upgreaded from 3.96 to 4.0. All of the users = have a mail.txt file in their home directories. If a user has say 120 = messages in tehre inbox in 3.96, they load 4.0 and see only the 4 new = messages in the inbox. The other 120 are there, but they can't see them. = I have gone back to 3.96 and all of the mail in the inboxes is there. Any = ideas?? Thanks, Paul Yahnig -------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul. Yahnig =20 Sr. Systems Administrator Kean University ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09295 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02964; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:36:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA14879; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:35:10 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA16198 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:03 -0700 Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA06196 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (mcope@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id JAA19651 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Thomas Cope To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: literal '<' bug with enable-arrow-navigation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed the following minor error with Pine 4.00 built on a Sparc/Solaris 2.6 box. When enable-arrow-navigation is checked, a literal '<' command in FOLDER LIST gives the error [Command "<" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] ',' , '.' and '>' work as expected as do the arrow keys and '<' works in MESSAGE INDEX and MESSAGE TEXT. When enable-arrow-navigation is disabled, '<' works in all circumstances. -Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Cope: Harvey Mudd College '00; Armand Hammer UWC '96 E-mail: Michael_Cope@hmc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA10294 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA04583; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:40:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA19003; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:39:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA66632 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:36:43 -0700 Received: from fis.cinvestav.mx (sophie.fis.cinvestav.mx [148.247.8.33]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA01937 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:36:35 -0700 Received: from linda.fis.cinvestav.mx by fis.cinvestav.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16996; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:57 -0500 Received: from localhost by linda.fis.cinvestav.mx (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA02964; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:55 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:54 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: End-user. In-Reply-To: <199807141705.KAA16290@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bauche@linda X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, University of Washington ListProcessor wrote: > End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup > comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. How can I do that? I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing messages? ____ ____ __ __ __ __ __ ___ | \ / T| T T / ]| T T / _] Jose Manuel Lara Bauche Alcalde. | o )Y o || | | / / | l | / [_ (015) 7512886 | T| || | | / / | _ |Y _] CINVESTAV-IPN Fisica. B-22 | O || _ || : |/ \_ | | || [_ Propedeuticos | || | || |\ || | || T bauche@fis.cinvestav.mx l_____jl__j__j \__,_j \____jl__j__jl_____j () bauche@grex.cyberspace.org ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA09091 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA05095; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:55:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA10834; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:53:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA76096 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:51:07 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA17220 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 10:51:01 -0700 Message-Id: <199807141751.NAA01753@ocalhost> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:50:56 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: End-user. In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Jose Manuel L. Bauche A." Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:37:54 -0500 (CDT) ID: > > End-user questions about Pine should be directed to the newsgroup > > comp.mail.pine rather than the mailing list. > > How can I do that? Goto the List Folders window, goto the NNTP server window, add comp.mail.pine.... select, post > I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can > help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing > messages? Don't ask that on the newsgroup..... really..... it won't be happy. Read the FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html It's the fifth entry. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA26553 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA06647; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:47:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA23038; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:46:00 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA13020 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:43:10 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA09810 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:43:09 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27802>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:38:36 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.113836pdt.27802@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Warren Jones To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Warren Jones X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: 1. Define *two* local folder collections. 2. The *second* collection in your folder list should include a subdirectory. 3. Go to your folder list ("L"). 4. Select the second folder collection. 5. Select a subdirectory. 6. Attempt to open a mail folder in the subdirectory. 7. Pine reports: [Can't open mailbox ... no such folder] But if you shuffle your folder list so that the collection with a subdirectory comes first, pine will open a folder in the subdirectory without any complaint! Here's an example: My .pinerc file defines two folder collections ... folder-collections="ECS mail folders" private/mail/folders/[], "Unix mail folders" mail/[] The second collection (mail/[]) contains a subdirectory named "apps". In that subdirectory, there is a folder named "cscope". When I go to the "mail/apps" subdirectory, the screen looks like this: Local folders in mail/ Dir: apps/ Now in directory: mail/apps/ When I select the "cscope" folder, I get this message: [ Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such folder ] (My HOME directory is "/tekoa/usr7/wjones".) Here's an excerpt from .pine-debug1: ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- About to open folder "/tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope" inbox: "INBOX" Close - saved inbox state: max 4 IMAP 09:14:23 7/14 mm_log ERROR: Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such mailbox "About to open" shows the correct folder. Somewhere between there and "Can't open mailbox", the folder path has been munged. When I shuffle my folder list so that "mail/[]" comes first, I can open "mail/apps/cscope" without any problem. I've observed the same behavior under both Solaris 2.5 and Red Hat Linux 4.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering. Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13565 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA26333; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:29:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA16766; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA25360 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:08:22 -0700 Received: from out4.ibm.net (out4.ibm.net [165.87.194.239]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA22119 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:08:21 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-160.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.160]) by out4.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA63422 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:08:18 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:09:48 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: one more bug! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I've found another bug in Pine 4.00. If you have in your Setup/Config something like this: read-message-folder = ~/mail/saved-messages and if you go then in a shell and in a directory "~/mail" you'll see a directory called "home", then "your username", then "mail" and final the file "saved-messages". Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13814 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA26405; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:32:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17510; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:30:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA76066 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:13:56 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA31912 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:13:55 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18861; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02001; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id QAA02740; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:13:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: More bugs in pine 4.00 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Jul 1998, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk wrote: > 2. Pine makes a link from a simple word "www" or "wwww", which obviously > can't be a web address. My version of Pine 4 does not make a link from "www" but it DID make one from "wwww." In fact, if you have enable-web-host-scan set, words like WWWServers Inc will get a link. The attached patch enforces "www." as well as "web." which was already there. > documentation (asking on news:*.linux instead), maybe it could be a It also makes news:*.linux a link. That's kind of dumb too, and I don't currently understand why Pine considers characters like '*' an acceptable RFC1738 "EXTRA" character. I suppose I could read the rfc... bleah. :) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA17768 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA14892; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:02:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA08538; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:01:35 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA17582 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:58:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA12390 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:58:31 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id TAA12788; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: End-user. In-Reply-To: <199807141751.NAA01753@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I don't know where should I send my question, but maybe You can > > help me. My question is: How can I put a "Reply to:" header on my outgoing > > messages? > > Don't ask that on the newsgroup..... really..... it won't be happy. > Read the FAQ at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html > It's the fifth entry. Sure, do it. Why not?? Watch Robin's head explode. Watch Adam have an anurism. Watch me do both and then just flame ths crap out of you. -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA19978 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA18439; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:59:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA19268; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:58:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA18914 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:53 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id UAA28968 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:53 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27781>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:51:11 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.205111pdt.27781@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:55:36 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.113836pdt.27802@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Warren Jones X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory and it would open the file as I desired This doesn't work any more. I did notice in the pine manual that: -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder collection) instead of INBOX. it mentions the _first_ folder collection. I wonder if this is related to your problem. On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Warren Jones wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 > From: Warren Jones > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? > > I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles > folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: > > 1. Define *two* local folder collections. > > 2. The *second* collection in your folder > list should include a subdirectory. > > 3. Go to your folder list ("L"). > > 4. Select the second folder collection. > > 5. Select a subdirectory. > > 6. Attempt to open a mail folder in the subdirectory. > > 7. Pine reports: [Can't open mailbox ... no such folder] > > But if you shuffle your folder list so that the collection with > a subdirectory comes first, pine will open a folder in the > subdirectory without any complaint! Here's an example: > > My .pinerc file defines two folder collections ... > > folder-collections="ECS mail folders" private/mail/folders/[], > "Unix mail folders" mail/[] > > The second collection (mail/[]) contains a subdirectory named "apps". > In that subdirectory, there is a folder named "cscope". When I go > to the "mail/apps" subdirectory, the screen looks like this: > > Local folders in mail/ > Dir: apps/ > > Now in directory: mail/apps/ > > When I select the "cscope" folder, I get this message: > > [ Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: > no such folder ] > > (My HOME directory is "/tekoa/usr7/wjones".) > > Here's an excerpt from .pine-debug1: > > ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- > About to open folder "/tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope" inbox: "INBOX" > Close - saved inbox state: max 4 > IMAP 09:14:23 7/14 mm_log ERROR: > Can't open mailbox mail//tekoa/usr7/wjones/mail/apps/cscope: no such mailbox > > "About to open" shows the correct folder. Somewhere between there > and "Can't open mailbox", the folder path has been munged. > > When I shuffle my folder list so that "mail/[]" comes first, > I can open "mail/apps/cscope" without any problem. > > I've observed the same behavior under both Solaris 2.5 and Red Hat > Linux 4.1. Any insights would be greatly appreciated. > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first > Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering. > Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA20310 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA06040; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:18:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA20164; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:17:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA49964 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA30129 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:21 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu (D-140-142-189-195.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.195]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id VAA24143; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:18 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:15:27 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.205111pdt.27781@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: David Dyck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN David, Try adding -c 0 to the argument list. This tells Pine to interpret the -f argument as file system path, rather than a name understood in the primary folder collection context. (I don't think this solves Warren's problem however, which looks suspiciously like a bug to me.) -teg On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories > by starting pine with > > pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > and it would open the file as I desired > > This doesn't work any more. > > I did notice in the pine manual that: > > -f folder Open folder (in first defined folder > collection) instead of INBOX. > > it mentions the _first_ folder collection. I wonder if > this is related to your problem. > > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Warren Jones wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:42:55 -0700 > > From: Warren Jones > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Subject: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? > > > > I've run into what looks like a bug in the way Pine 4.00 handles > > folder collections with subdirectories. To reproduce: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA19712 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA19098; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:53:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA08796; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:52:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA68804 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:48:46 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA01748 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:48:44 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA07904; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:48:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jul 1998 06:48:35 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: one more bug! In-Reply-To: Iztok Polanic's message of "Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:09:48 +0200 (MET DST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Iztok Polanic writes: > Hello !!! I've found another bug in Pine 4.00. If you have in your > Setup/Config something like this: > read-message-folder = ~/mail/saved-messages > and if you go then in a shell and in a directory "~/mail" you'll see > a directory called "home", then "your username", then "mail" and > final the file "saved-messages". Hmm, I would regard this not as a bug, but as the default behaviour of pine. The default directory wherein your mail-folders, which are _files_, are stored is '~/mail'. Now, you name your saved-messages folder as '~/mail/saved-messages'. If the programme is allowed to create the subdirectory structure (it obviously is :) it will create them. Therefore, just use the file name 'saved-messages' as folder name. Norbert. -- Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: Look!! Karl Malden! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA20148 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA06473; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:56:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA18591; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:55:28 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA68728 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:30 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA12687 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:29 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27778>; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:46:50 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul14.214650pdt.27778@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:12 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your very quick reply. Your suggestion was what I needed. Perhaps this can be documented in the manual, as I would never have guessed to add -c 0. Maybe someone could suggest a way to interpret the man page that would allow others to deduce this usefull information. -c context-number context-number is the number corre- sponding to the folder-collection to which the -f command line argument should be applied. By default the -f argument is applied to the first defined folder-collection. Dave, PS. I still needed to add the $PWD/ preceding the file name. On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, Terry Gray wrote: > Try adding -c 0 to the argument list. > This tells Pine to interpret the -f argument as file system path, > rather than a name understood in the primary folder collection context. > > On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: > > > similar to this, I used to read mail in other directories > > by starting pine with > > > > pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > > > and it would open the file as I desired From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA27138 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA09984; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:22:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA26657; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:21:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA39846 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:18:36 -0700 Received: from out5.ibm.net (out5.ibm.net [165.87.194.243]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA23159 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 02:18:35 -0700 Received: from alpha.computers.org (ssdipola@slip139-92-33-4.lju.si.ibm.net [139.92.33.4]) by out5.ibm.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA121404; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:18:26 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:19:55 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: one more bug! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Norbert Koch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@alpha.computers.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 Jul 1998, Norbert Koch wrote: > Hmm, I would regard this not as a bug, but as the default behaviour of > pine. The default directory wherein your mail-folders, which are > _files_, are stored is '~/mail'. Now, you name your saved-messages > folder as '~/mail/saved-messages'. If the programme is allowed to > create the subdirectory structure (it obviously is :) it will create > them. Therefore, just use the file name 'saved-messages' as folder > name. > > But this didn't happen in 3.96 Bye. ////// xxxxxx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xx xx | From: Iztok Polanic | xxxx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://kotzi.home.ml.org | xx xx | http://www.intering.si | xx xx | ICQ: Kotzi => *12556824* | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA30716 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id GAA26038; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:11:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA01895; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:08:38 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA75490 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:05:23 -0700 Received: from math.fu-berlin.de (leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.40.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id GAA20831 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 06:05:17 -0700 Received: (qmail 12683 invoked from network); 15 Jul 1998 13:05:09 -0000 Received: from petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (HELO petzval) (160.45.40.12) by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de with SMTP; 15 Jul 1998 13:05:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:05:08 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. v. Stuckrad" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: and again one more bug! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-TestHeaderA: Written by C. v. Stuckrad; FB. Mathematik; EDV X-TestHeaderB: FU-Berlin; Arnimallee 2-6; 14195 Berlin; GERMANY X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I recently installed pine-4.00 and since then cannot save a specific kind of message from any mailbox into any other due to 'message shrunk'! Those mewssages always were formerly created by the broken version of the Sun-CDE-Program 'dtmail', which did introduce ^M (Carriage Return) in strategically important places :-) So those mails viewed binary look like -------------------------------------- From: user@domain To: me^M@mydomain Subject: text^M ------^^--------- see middle line ---!!! (The dumb MOTIF-Widget took the 'Return' from the user into the String when it added the default-domainname!) When I see those Messages on the display I get ---------------------------------------------- From: user@domain To: me@mydomain @mydomain Subject: text ------------------ (OOPS! extra line) And when I save I get the 'message #... shrunk' message and so I cannot 'work' with pine-4.00 :-( Does anybody have a idea/patch to avoid this situation ? (possibly avoiding re-editing of about 50 large archives :-) Stucki Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA31286 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27118; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:27:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA05017; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:25:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA16248 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:11 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA25914 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:11 -0700 Received: from mailhost.cas.utk.edu (MAILHOST.CAS.UTK.EDU [128.169.76.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27038 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:22:08 -0700 Received: from aztec.lib.utk.edu (AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU [128.169.40.11]) by mailhost.cas.utk.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA20526 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:22:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by aztec.lib.utk.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA25883; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:18:18 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:18:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bob To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: global address books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can't find the answer to this in tech-notes or anything, so I thought I would ask here. I tried to create a shared global address book for staff, and it *works*, but every time someone accesses it, they get an error message saying that they can't create global.addressbooks.lu, so a temp file will be used. Why on earth, if the global address book is supposed to be read only, would pine even be *trying* to create a lookup file for the global address book? There is already one there, and individual users have no need to write to it, so why is this happening? Mysterious error messages have a way of alarming people... - bob patrick ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA31618 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14425; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:44:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03802; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:43:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA50108 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:40:38 -0700 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27294 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:40:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (ramchand@localhost) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA28240 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:53 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:52 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Qutota exceeded MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine discussion forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: pine discussion forum July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this remark? ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA30099 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA27591; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:56:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA06574; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:54:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA75406 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:52:20 -0700 Received: from lamia.delta-ii.de (norbert@apollonius.delta-ii.de [195.180.229.163]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA30137 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:52:18 -0700 Received: (from norbert@localhost) by lamia.delta-ii.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA12003; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:51:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 15 Jul 1998 16:51:54 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Norbert Koch To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Qutota exceeded In-Reply-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\""'s message of "Wed, 15 Jul 1998 20:19:52 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: norbert@lamia.delta-ii.de X-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Attribution: viteno X-Organization: Delta Industrie Informatik GmbH X-URL: http://www.delta-ii.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" writes: > To: pine discussion forum > July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 > From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. > I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following > remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this > remark? Hi, it plainly tells you why. The amount of hard-disk space assigned to you is at its end. Look through your files, archive and remove them. Or ask your System Administrator to get a higher quota. Norbert. -- Dr Norbert Koch, DELTA Industrie Informatik GmbH, Fellbach, Germany. YOW: Bagels... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32038 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA27981; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:12:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA25484; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:11:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA08180 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:08:34 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA08269 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:08:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA13733 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:08:34 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:08:34 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: <98Jul14.214650pdt.27778@gateway2.fluke.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: David Dyck >Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:51:12 -0700 >>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998, David Dyck wrote: >>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with >>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory >>>and it would open the file as I desired >PS. I still needed to add the $PWD/ preceding the file name. Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection here. I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA32623 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA28711; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:39:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA07235; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:38:14 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA12902 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:35:31 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA13432 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:35:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA08870 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:35:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:35:19 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: global address books In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Bob, you need to create the .lu file ONCE. And then pine will be happy. So you need to recreate this file, every time the global addressbook is changed. Try 'man pine' and look for the parameter '-create_lu'. Cheers, Florian On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, bob wrote: b> I can't find the answer to this in tech-notes or anything, so I thought I b> would ask here. I tried to create a shared global address book for staff, b> and it *works*, but every time someone accesses it, they get an error b> message saying that they can't create global.addressbooks.lu, so a temp b> file will be used. b> b> Why on earth, if the global address book is supposed to be read only, b> would pine even be *trying* to create a lookup file for the global address b> book? There is already one there, and individual users have no need to b> write to it, so why is this happening? Mysterious error messages have a b> way of alarming people... b> b> - bob patrick ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00769 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA16629; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:05:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08274; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:03:22 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA30082 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:00:01 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA02358 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:00:00 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12191; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12550; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hanky.me.mtu.edu (hanky.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.130]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id LAA11215; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@hanky.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > >From: David Dyck > >>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with > >>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory > > Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving > folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection > here. > > I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. You're not seeing the point. Some of us have files with mail in them in other places. Under 3.96 % pine -f $PWD/folder would open the folder in the current directory. Under 4.00 % pine -f $PWD/folder pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for ~/Mail/$PWD/folder. In my opinion, that is dumb. Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. Sure, make it so that users don't have to understand how directories work. But if they try to get tricky, let them fail or succeed the way one would expect it to work, I say. Yes, % pine -c 0 -f $PWD/folder works, but that seems like a pain. I think a better behavior would be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames starts with '/' or "./" so that I don't have to type as much. :) - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01347 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29872; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:21:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08510; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:18:59 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA24620 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:35 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA04318 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:35 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27794>; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:11:52 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul15.091152pdt.27794@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:16:23 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4 Enhancement Request, was Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edan Idzerda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well stated, I hope this enhancement request goes through On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > I think a better behavior would be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames > starts with '/' or "./" so that I don't have to type as much. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01932 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA00653; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:45:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA10144; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:44:24 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39904 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:47 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (flo@plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA21295 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09394 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:41 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am totally misunderstanding this feature. I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived [X] auto-move-read-msgs I don't have 'read-message-folder' set, because I don't want this feature for other folders. Are these settings correct? Because it doesn't work. I also tried prefixing a ~/ but this didn't work either. When I leave the 'mail/lists/pine-info' folder (by opening INBOX for example) I get the status 'Closing folder pine-info, keeping 303 messages' and the messages are not moved. I tried 'pine -d 9' but it doesn't give me anything. Any help would be appreciated. Florian Kolbe ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02240 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA18576; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:12:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA03591; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:10:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA21108 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24406 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:21 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA08912; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:07:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:09:37 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Florian, I haven't tried using the syntax you did, with the absolute path for the source folder, so there may be a bug there... but I use this form, with the nickname of the source folder, successfully: incoming-archive-folders = IMAP imap-arch IMAPEXT imapext-arch PINE pine-arch PINE-INFO pine-info-arch PINE-SUGGESTIONS pine-sug-arch -teg On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Florian Kolbe wrote: > Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am > totally misunderstanding this feature. > > I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in > ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): > > incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info > > This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. > > But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to > an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': > > incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA00116 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA19235; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:37:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA14987; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:35:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA18712 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:33:23 -0700 Received: from mailhost.cas.utk.edu (MAILHOST.CAS.UTK.EDU [128.169.76.44]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24545 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:33:22 -0700 Received: from aztec.lib.utk.edu (AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU [128.169.40.11]) by mailhost.cas.utk.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA19929 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by aztec.lib.utk.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA01572; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:29:37 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:29:37 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: bob Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bob To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: global address books In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The address book problem has gotten even stranger. Someone suggested that I try the -create_lu option, but the error still occurs. Then I noticed this: If I launch pine as root at the console, then press A to enter the address book, then press return to enter the personal address book, the message I see at the bottom is the same error, only now referring to the personal address book: [Can't write in directory containing .addressbook.lu, using temp file] But the directory containing root's .addressbook.lu is /, which is definitely writable by root. Why would this be the case, how is this related to the global addressbook problem? Thanks, - bob patrick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:35:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01701 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA03535; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:34:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA19400; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:31:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA27846 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:53 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA01829 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:52 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA03379 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199807151828.OAA17297@ocalhost> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:28:44 -0400 Reply-To: luomat+Lists\/Unix\/Pine@luomat.peak.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: patch wanted: get Pine, version # and OS information out of Message-ID Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does anyone have a patch to take out the following information from the Message-ID? IE rather than this: I would like this: <980715111116.17030A-100000@domainnamehere> I don't feel any need to share the rest of the information with the rest of the world. I'm not sure how to patch it myself, after lookin at the code. I can hack the binary itself, but I'd rather have a working patch, Anyone have one? TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04014 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21234; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:47:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA18413; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:45:51 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA08012 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:43:12 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA21821 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:43:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA17099 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:43:07 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 13:43:07 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This should go without saying. If you reply to the list, please don't Cc me. >From: Edan Idzerda >Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:59:02 -0400 (EDT) >On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>From: David Dyck >>>>>I used to read mail in other directories by starting pine with >>>>> pine -f $PWD/file.in.this.directory >>Remember, the path assumed is relative to the default directory for saving >>folders. So, if that's ~/mail, pine would look for the folder or collection >>here. >>I don't see how pine could find the collections relative to $PWD. >You're not seeing the point. Some of us have files with mail in them in other >places. All right. I could have added, "unless I cd to the directory containing the collection," but I didn't. I don't care to do that each time I invoke pine so I specify the relative path. >pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for >~/Mail/$PWD/folder. >In my opinion, that is dumb. It does appear that pine is ignoring an environment variable. I assume you verified that nothing else changed that would prevent this from being passed on to pine. >Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. Er, if I am relying on variable expansion, am I not by definition specifying a relative path? It's only an absolute path if I specify it from root. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA02118 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22618; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:43:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA23632; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:42:10 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA74214 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:39:33 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA06288 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:39:32 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [204.245.172.117]) by kens.com (8.8.8/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA18664; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Qutota exceeded In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , root@md2.vsnl.net.in X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Luser: Your admin has disk quotas set up, and you have exceeded them. Why do you think this is a problem with pine??? You admins's are copied on this message, ask them. On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, RAMACHANDRAN "CHIDAMBARAM" wrote: > To: pine discussion forum > July 15, 1998. 20:05:42 > From: Ramachandran. Chidambara.Iyer. > I have emptied "Sent-mail". But mail is sent you see the following > remarks: "Disc quota exceeded". "Write to "Sent-mail" FAILED!!!". WHY this > remark? > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Ken Woods kwoodskens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05008 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22900; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:57:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA13254; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:56:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA78174 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:53:54 -0700 Received: from gumby.telefusion.com ([208.151.198.23]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA07771 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:53:53 -0700 Received: from telefusion.com (axel.telefusion.com [208.151.198.3]) by gumby.telefusion.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA20439 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:49:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <35AD0808.65380ACD@telefusion.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:50:32 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wayward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Error during compile MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to compile Pine 4.00 under Solaris 2.5 on a Sparc10 using gcc version 2.7.2.2. All packages compile just fine except Pine itself. During the build I get the following output: pine.o: In function 'main': /opt/imports/src/mail/pine4.00/pine/pine.c:220: undefined reference to 'srandom' make: *** [pine] Error 1 size: bin/pine: no such file or directory I'm running build as 'build gs5' as listed in the tech-notes, without any options or flags. Any ideas what's going on here? Many thanks in advance, ---steve -- Steven R. "Wayward" Aines wayward@telefusion.com System Administrator http://www.telefusion.com TeleFusion, an SAIC company "A sysadmin's life is always intense." ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06738 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25121; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:14:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA16515; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:11:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA44530 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:09 -0700 Received: from news.mtu.edu (root@news.mtu.edu [141.219.70.11]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA06928 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:09:08 -0700 Received: from mtu.edu (root@mtu.edu [141.219.70.1]) by news.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09799 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:09:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.me.mtu.edu (root@rock.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.31]) by mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA27907 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from marlin2.me.mtu.edu (marlin2.me.mtu.edu [141.219.25.50]) by rock.me.mtu.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/mturelay-1.2) with SMTP id RAA16903 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:08:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:08:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edan Idzerda To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: edan@marlin2.me.mtu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > This should go without saying. If you reply to the list, please don't Cc me. My deepest apologies. > All right. I could have added, "unless I cd to the directory containing the > collection," but I didn't. I don't care to do that each time I invoke pine > so I specify the relative path. No, I'm talking about when I'm IN a directory that contains a folder that I wish to view. I want to say % pine -f ./folder And not have Pine run off and open ~/Mail/./folder Eh? Ka-peesh? > >pines does what you're suggesting, and tries to look for > >~/Mail/$PWD/folder. > > >In my opinion, that is dumb. > > It does appear that pine is ignoring an environment variable. I assume you > verified that nothing else changed that would prevent this from being passed on > to pine. Ah, I see for my example I should have said % echo $PWD /home/somewhere/edan/directory % pine -f $PWD/folder Pine will try to open ~/Mail//home/somewhere/edan/directory/folder THAT'S dumb! > >Pine should not try to find a relative path when it's given an absolute one. > > Er, if I am relying on variable expansion, am I not by definition specifying a > relative path? It's only an absolute path if I specify it from root. Er, no. If I enter % pine -f $PWD/folder Pine doesn't know I typed $PWD, right? I'm not expecting pine to do anything fancy. When I give Pine a folder that starts with "./" or "/" I want it to realize I am specifying an absolute path. I will probably code it myself since I doubt its on the priority list of the Pine developers, particularly since "-c 0" makes it work that way. - edan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06996 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA25143; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:15:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA16370; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:25 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA24716 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:56 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA19869 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:56 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA07539 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:54 -0700 Received: from D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-126.dhcp2.washington.edu [140.142.110.126]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id OAA20539 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:05:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:17 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug opening folders in subdirectories ? (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset = US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Edan Idzerda wrote: > Yes, > > % pine -c 0 -f $PWD/folder > > works, but that seems like a pain. I think a better behavior would > be to assume '-c 0' when foldernames starts with '/' or "./" so that > I don't have to type as much. :) Remember that the folder collection contexts can specify remote IMAP servers as well as local filesystem paths. The -c flag is needed to over-ride the default context, otherwise Pine would not know whether you are referring to /foo/bar on the IMAP server or /foo/bar on the local host. A more reasonable criticism would be that in the case of a local default context, a path beginning with / should successfully break out of the context without needing the -c 0... And we would agree, but it turns out that there is a bug in that case. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA13838 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA06146; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:04:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA19195; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:03:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA87006 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:00:29 -0700 Received: from hex.de.uu.net (hex.de.uu.net [192.76.144.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA02312 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 01:00:28 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:1917) by hex.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:004/3.0.2) id JAA13822; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:52:37 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) id 0ywikG-0003qB-00; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:28 +0200 Received: with local-smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) id 0ywikH-00016B-00; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:29 +0200 Message-Id: <0ywikG-0003qB-00@ife-le.de> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:46:29 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Florian Kolbe X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have the following spec: ... incoming-folders="pine-faq-mail" filtered-incoming-mail/pine-faq-mail ... incoming-archive-folders=pine-faq-mail sav-pine/pine-faq-mail ... where filtered-incoming-mail is in $HOME and sav-pine in $HOME/mail. The folders in filtered-incoming-mail are maintained by procmail. Hope this helps. Rudolf On Wed, 15 Jul 1998, Florian Kolbe wrote: -> Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:41:41 +0200 (CEST) -> From: Florian Kolbe -> To: Pine Discussion Forum -> Subject: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? -> -> -> Ok, I won't get this to work, and it's probably some syntax error or I am -> totally misunderstanding this feature. -> -> I have an extra incoming folder nicked 'pine-info' sitting in -> ~/mail/lists/pine-info (that's fed via procmail): -> -> incoming-folders=pine-info mail/lists/pine-info -> -> This folder 'by itself' works perfectly. -> -> But I want the read messages from '~/mail/lists/pine-info' to be auto-moved to -> an archive folder '~/mail/lists/pine-info-archived': -> -> incoming-archive-folders = mail/lists/pine-info mail/lists/pine-info-archived -> -> [X] auto-move-read-msgs -> -> I don't have 'read-message-folder' set, because I don't want this feature -> for other folders. -> -> Are these settings correct? Because it doesn't work. I also tried prefixing -> a ~/ but this didn't work either. When I leave the 'mail/lists/pine-info' -> folder (by opening INBOX for example) I get the status 'Closing folder -> pine-info, keeping 303 messages' and the messages are not moved. -> -> I tried 'pine -d 9' but it doesn't give me anything. -> -> Any help would be appreciated. -> -> Florian Kolbe -> -> ############################################################################ -> # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # -> # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # -> ############################################################################ -> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA14922 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA07063; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:13:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA19939; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:12:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA63574 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:09:42 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-1.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.68]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id CAA23952 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 02:09:40 -0700 Received: from root@tamaya.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.31] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:09 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from tls5-90.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.252.160.90] by smtp.wanadoo.fr for Paris Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:10:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 11:08:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How can I get rid of it ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@wanadoo.fr X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 16 10:34:08 1998 Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:34:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0900578028 0000000008 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. This may well be a normal default behavior. What is some what annoying for me is that the same message gets created also in my INBOX folder (/var/mail/junichi) so each time I log in, I now see a message saying 'You have mail' even if there is in fact no real message there. I would like to know how I can disable this feature. junichi ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA09228 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id DAA07877; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:26:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA20968; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:25:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA72054 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:22:54 -0700 Received: from math.fu-berlin.de (qmailr@leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de [160.45.40.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id DAA26491 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 03:22:52 -0700 Received: (qmail 5632 invoked from network); 16 Jul 1998 10:22:39 -0000 Received: from petzval.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.12) by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de with SMTP; 16 Jul 1998 10:22:39 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:22:36 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. v. Stuckrad" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: stucki@petzval X-TestHeaderA: Written by C. v. Stuckrad; FB. Mathematik; EDV X-TestHeaderB: FU-Berlin; Arnimallee 2-6; 14195 Berlin; GERMANY X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. Hi! Sorry, but I believe we'll have to forget pine... Use 'pop3' add 'ssh' for security, or use the combination of SSL and POP3 for security and simply forget pine. Our users are complaining about that 'forever-1-mail' too, and as pine4 is broken anyway, we'll have to switch to 'mutt' and 'pop'. Stucki (irritated admin and postmaster, using mutt from now on) Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24374 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA27530; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:55:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA23951; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:53:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA39718 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA29945 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:29 -0700 Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA14879 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 09:50:24 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by uu7.psi.com (8.8.8/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) with UUCP id QAA22764 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:50:15 GMT Received: by jandr.com (8.6.13/200.19.1.1) id MAA00669; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:45:11 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:45:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe DiBenedetto To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine 3.96 addressbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Newsgroup X-Sender: joed@jrmusic X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings, I'm using PC Pine and it's working quite well except for one annoying problem: I can't access my personal and global addressbooks. If I login to my smtp server directly and run Unix Pine, no problem. All other operations in PC Pine work perfectly. The error I get is: "No addressbook operations are possible". Is it me? Joe ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA28056 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA01533; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:23:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA12511; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:21:51 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA43408 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:19:14 -0700 Received: from plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de [134.34.147.28]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA07964 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:19:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (flo@localhost) by plato.physik.uni-konstanz.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA15676 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:19:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Florian Kolbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Florian Kolbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Q: how to use the 'incoming-archive-folders' feature? In-Reply-To: <0ywikG-0003qB-00@ife-le.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To conclude: The setting 'incoming-archive-folders' holds a comma-separated (?) list of pairs, the two values in a pair being separated by a blank. The FIRST value in a pair is the NICKNAME of an incoming folder as specified in the setting 'incoming-folders'. Is this the only way??? Is it is, it should be pointed out the only help for this setting! The SECOND value in a pair is the name of the folder file relative to ~/mail, if a relative path is specified (or other ways of specifying a folder are probably possible). Thanks to Rudolf Kompf and Terry Gray for replying. Florian Kolbe ############################################################################ # Florian Kolbe - Florian.Kolbe@uni-konstanz.de # # Uni Konstanz, P1003, Tel. 88-3859 # ############################################################################ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA31737 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA07195; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:04:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24845; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:02:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA39356 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:54 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id PAA12807 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA03418; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It will either require that the folks working on pine pull it violently out of the pine code or modify login, finger, all pop3 and imap servers, emacs, elm, mail, mailx, and possible fetchmail. I'm probably missing some. Which is more feasable? The first message in the folder isn't a bad idea but not in inbox eh. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > > From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Jul 16 10:34:08 1998 > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 10:34:08 +0200 (CEST) > From: Mail System Internal Data > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > X-IMAP: 0900578028 0000000008 > Status: RO > > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. > > This may well be a normal default behavior. What is some what annoying for > me is that the same message gets created also in my INBOX folder > (/var/mail/junichi) so each time I log in, I now see a message saying 'You > have mail' even if there is in fact no real message there. > > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. > > junichi > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNa6F5JJJLM/l/+PBAQEYWwP/ZI4QwsgerjjHW9j8gFQQjGDnRWyD81jZ 2xnVrmkiISlhFyn/NYv72JGlsjJVL9tXXuBLyMQz6gavxsGTuEHDRbZawpSpFqaZ 7ZzwihkEqqQihWPVT23STZCJrI2d8mM5U5v6OQKeRGI5uE4y0IP8nZvdVL8IqqFS j5a8dkqUD4c= =IfDp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA25083 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA25573; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:10:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24817; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:09:26 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA48062 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:07:01 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA32431 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:07:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA03544; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:03:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How can I get rid of it ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "C. v. Stuckrad" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I'm not sure abandoning pine is necessary. All programs have bugs. If there is a bug in sendmail, you don't necessarily stop using it. I do think it would be a good idea if there was a patch made available to pull it out before the release of pine 4.01 because many systems do use pine and I'm sure it's causing alot of havoc out there. I looked at the code and it looks very difficult to pull out. I don't think it's as easy as just pulling out the fprintf lines that are responsible. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, C. v. Stuckrad wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Junichi Saito wrote: > > > After compiling Pine 4.0 on a Linux, I have noticed that the > > following message is created by imapd in each folder I visit : > > > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > > > I would like to know how I can disable this feature. > > Hi! > > Sorry, but I believe we'll have to forget pine... > Use 'pop3' add 'ssh' for security, or use the combination > of SSL and POP3 for security and simply forget pine. > > Our users are complaining about that 'forever-1-mail' > too, and as pine4 is broken anyway, we'll have to switch > to 'mutt' and 'pop'. > > Stucki (irritated admin and postmaster, using mutt from now on) > > Christoph von Stuckrad * * | talk to | \ > Freie Universitaet Berlin |/_* | nickname | ...!unido!fub!leibniz!stucki| > Fachbereich Mathematik, EDV |\ * | 'stucki' | Tel:+49 30 838-75459 | > Arnimallee 2-6/14195 Berlin * * | on IRC | Fax:+49 30 838-75454 / > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNa6Gw5JJLM/l/+PBAQHmCQP/R4PO2PuTQ73A+6CpLRNqk0uinvA3wNfP fGlHTemOqEgNNhaiU7jMXbjTgY8Ss6A+b4vD7kdG/m8a85AkV5cWnfH3+2iDRMVg YdZnKoEQi87QNKc6OsYJsyKu8IgwdKab6jXERIIehbHClSRtNbSIdIEsggKAOcI5 HlespSa4U/8= =dFFA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA32617 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA08503; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:02:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA27429; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:01:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA70922 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA03146 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:05 -0700 Received: from cc344191-b.ewndsr1.nj.home.com (cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com [24.2.83.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id QAA26715 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:59:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199807162359.TAA29945@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:58:58 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: EMERGENCY: new remote root exploit in UW imapd Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey folks, I haven't seen this on the list and thought it would be of interest here: Rather than forwarding the entire article, I'll point to the URL from BugTraq http://www.NETSPACE.ORG/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9807c&L=bugtraq&O=T&P=2045 TjL ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA03177 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA00436; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:18:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA23902; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:17:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA69212 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:15:13 -0700 Received: from fluke.com (mail.fluke.com [206.138.179.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id VAA20847 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:15:13 -0700 Received: by gateway2.fluke.com id <27786>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:10:46 -0700 Message-Id: <98Jul16.211046pdt.27786@gateway2.fluke.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 21:14:55 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Dyck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in url parser In-Reply-To: <199807162359.TAA29945@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN the following message doesn't pass the url directly to exec, or quote the argument. my guess is it gets passed directly to system. there is room for improvement in this area, as I couldn't even pass a simple argument ('-n') to the program I wanted to invoke either. I'd suggest if pine is going to check that the program exists, and it knows it wasj just passed the url, that it fork and exec with the args already parsed (like perl's system "prog", "arg1", "arg2"; #.... On Thu, 16 Jul 1998, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 16:58:58 -0700 > From: Timothy J Luoma > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: EMERGENCY: new remote root exploit in UW imapd > > > > Hey folks, I haven't seen this on the list and thought it would be of > interest here: > > Rather than forwarding the entire article, I'll point to the URL from BugTraq > > http://www.NETSPACE.ORG/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind9807c&L=bugtraq&O=T&P=2045 > > TjL > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA05967 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA03459; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:45:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA08465; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:44:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA29776 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:41:49 -0700 Received: from hex.de.uu.net (hex.de.uu.net [192.76.144.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id BAA00019 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:41:47 -0700 Received: from gate1.ife-le.de (gate1.ife-le.de [194.115.104.202]:2050) by hex.de.uu.net with ESMTP (5.65+:004/3.0.2) for id KAA12420; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:33:56 +0200 (MET DST) Received: by gate1.ife-le.de with esmtp (Exim 1.90 #2) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yx65J-0007df-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:45 +0200 Received: with local-smtp (Exim 1.90 #1) for pine-info@u.washington.edu id 0yx65L-0001Ac-00; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:47 +0200 Message-Id: <0yx65J-0007df-00@ife-le.de> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:41:47 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rudolf Kompf To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Simultaneous Del & Save: BUG? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have 1 read message in INBOX and several messages in my read-message-folder=sav-inbox/saved-messages. If I go into the read-message-folder, delete 1 message and then quit pine, the following dialog appears: Really quit pine? Y Expunge 1 deleted message from "sav-inbox/saved-messages"? Y Closing "sav-inbox/saved-messages"...Save the 1 read message in sav-inbox/saved-messages? Y Error saving to sav-inbox/saved-messages. Not all messages moved. And now the message from INBOX is duplicated: - Saved to sav-inbox/saved-messages - Remains in INBOX The .pine-debug1 ends with the following lines: ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: RETURN (13) - completely_done_with_adrbks - expunge and close mail stream "/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages" Want_to read: RETURN (13) mm_expunged(/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages,39) === mm_exists(38,/home/omega06/kompf/mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages) called === IMAP 10:08:16 7/17 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/kompf" Want_to read: RETURN (13) same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice same_stream: mail/sav-inbox/saved-messages == /var/mail/kompf same_stream: no dice about to end_tty_driver end_signals(0) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05875 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:49:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA24521; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:49:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26907; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:47:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15098 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:45:07 -0700 Received: from gumby.telefusion.com ([208.151.198.23]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA00986 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 10:45:07 -0700 Received: from telefusion.com (axel.telefusion.com [208.151.198.3]) by gumby.telefusion.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id NAA01052 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:40:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <35AF8CDB.47AF728@telefusion.com> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:41:48 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wayward To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [Fwd: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some of our users read their mail with both PINE and POP3 clients. Occasionally they've been getting the message below in their POP3 mailbox. So far it has just been an annoyance, but I'm wondering if this is at all bad. Are we setting ourselves up for errors down the road like lost message folders, etc.? Thanks in advance, ---steve -- Steven R. "Wayward" Aines wayward@telefusion.com System Administrator http://www.telefusion.com TeleFusion, an SAIC company "A sysadmin's life is always intense." --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:47:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA X-IMAP: 0900653032 0000000017 This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. --------------06830BC6B0FD30495F60F9B0-- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA24987 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA26656; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:31:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA17265; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:29:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA39816 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:27:22 -0700 Received: from continuum.cm.nu (shane@00-00-c0-36-52-fa.bconnected.net [209.53.18.213]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id WAA02503 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:27:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (shane@localhost) by continuum.cm.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA00842; Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:26:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:26:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Wegner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [Fwd: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA] In-Reply-To: <35AF8CDB.47AF728@telefusion.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: wayward X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- If you use the pop3d that comes with pine4.00, it will not send these messages to the user's pop3 account. - -- Shane Wegner: mailto:shane@cm.nu ICQ: 15706546 Sysadmin, Continuum Systems: http://www.cm.nu/ Vice President, W.A.P.V.I. Personal website: http://www.cm.nu/~shane/ PGP key: finger shane@cm.nu On Fri, 17 Jul 1998, wayward wrote: > Some of our users read their mail with both PINE and POP3 clients. > Occasionally they've been getting the message below in their POP3 > mailbox. So far it has just been an annoyance, but I'm wondering if > this is at all bad. Are we setting ourselves up for errors down the > road like lost message folders, etc.? > > Thanks in advance, > ---steve > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNbAyI5JJLM/l/+PBAQGi1gQAlfaP9q/TkAEnDH8K+R2euecyz9lrvPnU o9v7OVFO5sv4Lt8PRm30mfQXwK6RFPx4bzy8kFlakdpsI89fCRNEjXY9juCu3nDJ olDc8v0MX36ZAyEUN7zdGYlPUHXYsdEcAlQlIpukt9yDEunAV03amey04BlQNRxZ XE6a0rAkYo8= =NJxK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00060 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA14042; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:10:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23800; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:08:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA35990 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:39 -0700 Received: from mustang.via.net (mustang.via.net [140.174.204.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id HAA00781 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:38 -0700 Received: (from datela@localhost) by mustang.via.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id HAA17403; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:37 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Talent-Management To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Setting Justification Width In-Reply-To: <0yx65J-0007df-00@ife-le.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: datela@mustang.via.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When setting ^j (justification), Pine sets the line width to a pre-determined length. How can this length be changed, permanently? Bryan ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01439 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA15442; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA26090; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:29:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA31628 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:20 -0700 Received: from marid.phs.com (marid.phs.com [149.111.34.33]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA05118 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:20 -0700 Received: by marid.phs.com id AA25506; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:17 -0700 Received: from raven.phs.com by shaitan.phs.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/06Aug96-1111AM) id AA19608; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by raven.phs.com (5.65v4.0/1.1.10.5/01Jul97-1052PM) id AA14252; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:13 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Hatz To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Why is pine creating .pine-debug* [was: Re: Pine 4.00 problems] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have pine aliased to launch and not create debug files via the '/usr/local/bin/pine -d0' command. This is in the manpage, and probably in the FAQ. Mike ========== Which is the greater crime, to rob a bank, or to own one? On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Stefan Kramer wrote: >On Thu, 9 Jul 1998, Iztok Polanic wrote: > >IP} Message-ID: >IP} From: Iztok Polanic >IP} To: Pine Discussion Forum >IP} Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:09:33 +0200 (MET DST) >IP} Subject: Pine 4.00 problems >IP} .... >IP} 2. Why is pine creating .pine-debug*??? Is there a way how to prevent pine >IP} from doing this??? >IP} .... > >See '3.13 What are these .pine-debug files for?' at >http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/problems.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01930 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA04947; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:15:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA28401; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:13:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA21542 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:09:41 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id LAA12691 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:09:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id NAA01594 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:09:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 13:09:47 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting Justification Width In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Talent-Management >Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:04:36 -0700 (PDT) >When setting ^j (justification), Pine sets the line width to a >pre-determined length. How can this length be changed, permanently? The name of the option is composer-wrap-column. When using pico as a text editor, invoke it with "-r[some number]". See the context-sensitive help and the pico man page for more information. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA15618 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA18673; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:34:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA09276; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:33:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA17490 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:31:10 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id JAA31274 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:31:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA24737; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 385 In-Reply-To: <199807190704.AAA12343@lists2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 Mike Hatz wrote: > I have pine aliased to launch and not create debug files via the > '/usr/local/bin/pine -d0' command. This is in the manpage, and probably > in the FAQ. AND.. On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 "Adam H. Kerman" wrote: > The name of the option is composer-wrap-column. When using pico as a text > editor, invoke it with "-r[some number]". See the context-sensitive help and > the pico man page for more information. So there are Pine and Pico man pages. Here's what I want to know: Where can I get the man pages? I've looked all over, believe me. I found some text documents, but not true man pages. Thanks, Mike Michael B. Miller, M.S., Ph.D., M.P.E. Department of Psychology 210 McAlester Hall University of Missouri--Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 Phone: (573) 882-5671 Fax: (573) 882-7710 e-mail: mbmiller@taxa.psyc.missouri.edu web: http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:52:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16547 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:52:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA01196; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:51:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA18758; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:51:14 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15838 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA20996 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:50 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id KAA19448 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 10:48:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA24821; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: changing X-sender in header MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm attempting to signoff from a mailing list and I'm having a problem. The computer I'm subscribed from has two names, and I'm subscribed under one of those names. When I change my user-domain to the name I'm subscribed under, you'd think the listserv program would let me signoff. It doesn't. The reason, apparently, is that there is another line in the header called x-sender that gives the other name of the computer. Listserv notices this, ignores the From: field, and tells me that I'm not subscribed, so I can't possibly signoff! Is there any way to make it so that I can force Pine to either leave off x-sender (and sender), or to include the address I want in the x-sender field? It seems easy enough but I haven't been able to figure it out. Thanks much, Mike ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA09683 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA20508; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:27:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA22115; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:26:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA21644 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:23:32 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id MAA22896 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:23:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA21181 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:23:30 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:23:29 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: man pages are in the distribution (was: PINE-INFO digest 385) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Subject: Re: PINE-INFO digest 385 >From: Mike Miller >Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:30:51 -0500 (CDT) >Where can I get the man pages? I've looked all over, believe me. Look in the distribution. Explode your digests before replying in the future, please. Use "burst" or something similar. Or at least use a descriptive Subject. ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA18616 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA21808; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:40:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA15052; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:33:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA17484 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:30:45 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id OAA10255 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 14:30:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA22419 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:30:42 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:30:42 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: changing X-sender in header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Mike Miller >Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 12:48:28 -0500 (CDT) >I'm attempting to signoff from a mailing list and I'm having a problem. The >computer I'm subscribed from has two names, and I'm subscribed under one of >those names. When I change my user-domain to the name I'm subscribed under, >you'd think the listserv program would let me signoff. It doesn't. This is a job for the list owner. If the server really is LISTSERV, typically the list owner's alias is listname-request. If the server is Majordomo or ListProc, it's owner-listname. (Majordomo often uses listname-request as an alias to send automated commands to the server.) Some servers improperly use listname-owner. Look at the Sender header the next time you get a message from the list. Often, that's set to the list owner alias. >The reason, apparently, is that there is another line in the header called >x-sender that gives the other name of the computer. Listserv notices this, >ignores the From: field, and tells me that I'm not subscribed, so I can't >possibly signoff! >Is there any way to make it so that I can force Pine to either leave off >x-sender (and sender), or to include the address I want in the x-sender field? That's added when it's been handed off to the Mail Transport Agent. It hasn't been added by pine. >It seems easy enough but I haven't been able to figure it out. You'd need privileges over the configuration of the MTA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA16019 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA24888; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:51:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA00618; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:50:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA38492 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:47:51 -0700 Received: from md2.vsnl.net.in (md2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.6.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id TAA22783 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:47:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (ramchand@localhost) by md2.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA32690 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:27:19 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:27:19 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "RAMACHANDRAN \"CHIDAMBARAM\"" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Change order of Menu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To: Pine discussion Forum >From :Ramchandran.Chidambaram.Iyer Sir, I do not find any provision to go to Main menu after I complete "Compose" menu. I have to disconnect and connect again to continue. I generally finish other operations and come to 'C' at the last. If there is any other method, pl advise.Ramachandran ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29569 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA15065; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:50:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03395; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:48:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA66572 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:46:05 -0700 Received: from mx.nada.kth.se (mx.nada.kth.se [130.237.222.161]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id HAA01606 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:46:04 -0700 Received: from staff.nada.kth.se (staff.nada.kth.se [130.237.225.70]) by mx.nada.kth.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA02656 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:46:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:46:02 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Svanberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP incompatibilities 3.96-->4.00 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Given a folder collection defined as folder-collections=Spara mail/f/spara/[], imap-test {mail3.nada.kth.se/Debug}[], : : the second collection expands well i Pine 3.96 but gives a folder list containing only "INBOX." in Pine 4.00. Choosing that folder gives [Now in EMPTY directory: {mail3.nada.kth.se/Debug}INBOX.] The server is Cyrus v1.5.10. Turning on enable-lame-list-mode makes it expand, but now with two versions of each object: with and without a trailing ".". For mailboxes it works to open the non-dot version but to go down a directory you must open the trailing-dot-version. What's up? Still disagreements about name handling in IMAP servers? /Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA30556 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA16971; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:00:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA14083; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:58:57 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA76246 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:56:47 -0700 Received: from GroupWise.Kean.Edu (GroupWise.Kean.Edu [131.125.1.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with SMTP id IAA11675 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 08:56:46 -0700 Received: from Kdomain1-Message_Server by GroupWise.Kean.Edu with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:21 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paul Yahnig" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP problems Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have installe dthe IMAP 4.1. It works fine, but with one problem. When = a user connects the first time and gets their mail, it will give them = everything from their .login to files. It will also show the mail. How = can I turn off the whole directory listing. Thanks for your help, Paul Yahnig -------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul. Yahnig =20 Sr. Systems Administrator Kean University ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA31654 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id KAA18973; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 10:01:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA16967; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:59:54 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA71980 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from titan.apieron.com (root@[207.225.232.200]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id JAA18590 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:36 -0700 Received: from titan (listmail@titan [207.225.232.200]) by titan.apieron.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA26330 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 09:57:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sean Chittenden To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: IMAP problems... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: listmail@titan.apieron.com X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You're problem lies on the client. Change the directory of the incoming mail folders to: mail/ For OE, its under the Advanced tab. That works if you're using Outlook Express, Outlook 98, and Netscape's mail client. I hope that solves your problem. --Sean On Mon, 20 Jul 1998, Paul Yahnig wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 11:52:21 -0400 > From: Paul Yahnig > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: IMAP problems > > I have installe dthe IMAP 4.1. It works fine, but with one problem. When a user connects the first time and gets their mail, it will give them everything from their .login to files. It will also show the mail. How can I turn off the whole directory listing. > Thanks for your help, > Paul Yahnig > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Paul. Yahnig > Sr. Systems Administrator > Kean University > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA21946 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA12196; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:17:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA25965; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:15:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA18930 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:12:38 -0700 Received: from rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (root@rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl [148.81.15.15]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id NAA08408 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 13:12:35 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (root@ppp4-58.warszawa.tpnet.pl [195.205.246.58]) by rainbow.mimuw.edu.pl (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA04436 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:12:26 +0200 Received: from localhost (qrczak@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA16186 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:09:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:09:31 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug in Pine 4.00: Postpone and References MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine looses References: header field when resuming a postponed composition of a news article. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://qrczak.home.ml.org/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a21 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ W++ ^^ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t 5? X- R tv-- QRCZAK b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- [nie ma mnie 9-31 sierpnia] ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08249 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA01973; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:18:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA11666; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:17:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA71088 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA05468 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:40 -0700 Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id SAA19056; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:14:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA09123; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 18:13:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA87522 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:29 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id RAA03965 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (mikes@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA22721 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 17:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.01 now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.01. It is being released as a maintenance version of Pine 4.00 and contains little in terms of changes or enhancements from that version. However, it does contain an imapd immune to the recently discovered security holes as well as a few small changes based on early version 4.00 feedback. More specific information regarding this release can be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), and via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs As with any Pine release, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing it into production use. Source for the latest Pine release is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Unfortunately, we're still not prepared to release a corresponding version of PC-Pine, but rest assured that we are working on it. Sincerely, The Pine Development Team ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19736 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA29484; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:09:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17830; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:08:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA30096 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:18 -0700 Received: from fiveoaks.com (root@[206.58.85.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW98.06) with ESMTP id IAA07441 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:17 -0700 Received: from parr2.parr.com (parr2.parr.com [192.168.1.200]) by fiveoaks.com (8.9.0/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA18904 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (andym@localhost) by parr2.parr.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA352127 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:06:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andy McNiece To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Print Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Versions 3.96 and before of Pine generated print requests without automatically wrapping the lines. This was very useful in sending 132 column reports to a user and then simply letting them print the reports to a 132 column printer. Versions 4.00 and 4.01 appear to wrap the lines automatically. Is there any option to disable this? _____________________________________________________________________________ Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com 5630 Five Oaks Drive Phone 503-614-2525 Hillsboro, Oregon USA 97124 Fax 503-629-8635 ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(9) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW