From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 00:10:47 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA09699 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA03984; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:10:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA14418; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:07:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA48490 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:06:41 -0700 Received: from hq.vni.net (highway@hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA16293 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 00:06:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id DAA10655; Thu, 1 May 1997 03:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 03:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: skywalker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > > > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic over > > the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was short lived. > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. EMACS is comparable to VI. "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends =================[Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996/Spring 1997]=============== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 02:01:59 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10717 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA05252; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:01:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21520; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:20 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA54742 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03851 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:58:04 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02091 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:57:13 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id NAA00921 (8.8.4/abc for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 1 May 1997 13:39:46 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (root@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id NAA06604; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:02:29 +0500 Received: from merlin.freenet.uz (sarrahim@merlin.freenet.uz [194.58.80.9]) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with ESMTP id NAA20764; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:03:02 +0600 Received: from localhost (sarrahim@localhost) by merlin.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-3) with SMTP id NAA18762; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:15 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:15 +0600 (GMT+0600) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sanjar Rahimov To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: sarrahim@merlin.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Could you give me some direction how to get news from e-mail.I tried to set the news file in the way it is said in "Help" section,but failed. And I can not get what does "[Can't change sys-admin defined value]". What should I do if this phrase appears? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 02:03:03 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA10801 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:03:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA02167; Thu, 1 May 1997 02:02:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21472; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA50558 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03796 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:30 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (root@dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA02082 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 01:56:16 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id NAA00923 (8.8.4/abc for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 1 May 1997 13:39:50 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (muhtojdn@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id NAA06641; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:07:38 +0500 Received: from localhost (muhtojdn@localhost) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with SMTP id NAA20796; Thu, 1 May 1997 13:08:11 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 13:08:10 +0600 (TSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Doniyor Muhammadaliev To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: muhtojdn@hal.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My name is Doniyor. I would like to know information about e-mail, because I'm new-learner. That's why I need to your help. I,m looking forward to your reply. Thank you in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 06:47:14 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA13442 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA05584; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:47:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA51328; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:58 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA51456 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA01396 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:24 -0700 Received: from hydrolab.arsusda.gov (hydrolab.arsusda.gov [192.94.164.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA05499 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:40:22 -0700 Received: from hl2.arsusda.gov by hydrolab.arsusda.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22713; Thu, 1 May 1997 09:40:12 -0400 Received: from localhost by hl2.arsusda.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15137; Thu, 1 May 1997 09:38:09 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 09:38:09 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: schmugge@hydrolab.arsusda.gov Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tom Schmugge To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem w/ sent-mail for previous month Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Rob Parry X-Sender: schmugge@hl2.arsusda.gov X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN For the past two months I have been having a problem with the reminder for moving the previous month's sent mail to the sent-mail-april folder even after I have done this procedure on the initial logon. This happened through the entire month of April and now is continuing in May. How do I get it to stop sending me the reminder? Also when I typed "B" to report this bug I was unable to get out that screen. I had to suspend Pine with ^Z and then kill the job. I am runnig Pine 3.93 on an IBM R6000. Best wishes Tom ------------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas Schmugge schmugge@hydrolab.arsusda.gov USDA/ARS Hydrology Lab Tel: (1) 301-504-8554 Bldg 007 - BARC West -7490 (sec) Beltsville, MD 20705-2350 USA FAX: (1) 301-504-8931 ------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 07:02:39 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA13526 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08816; Thu, 1 May 1997 07:02:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA29326; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA44386 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:21 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA06131 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 06:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wMwIV-00038eC; Thu, 1 May 97 06:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <335FEC34.41C6@seas.ucla.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 16:26:44 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hong Zhang To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and PGP References: <335D4A58.41C6@seas.ucla.edu> <5jl3o1$3ph$3@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Jie Yuan wrote: > > In article <5jlmgs$8pd@news.sockets.net>, > kturvey@pug1.SprocketShop.com (Kenneth P. Turvey) writes: > > > If your mail isn't > > really all that secure, and you trust the administrators, you could > > just make sure your mail folders are not world readable. > > > > chmod go-rwx foldername > > > > The default setting is "-rw-------" for all folders of Pine. Just do > a "ls -l ~/mail/" to make sure. > > To be sure noone intercepts your mail, don't use mail. Less than that, > delete all the mails from your Unix account after reading them. Save > them on floppy/tape and store off-site. If you cannot trust your sys > adm, you cannot keep anything personal on your Unix account, no matter > whether they are encrypted or not. He/she can find your secret key to > decrypt everything after all. You just have to live with some > insecurity in today's computer world. > > Jie > -- > -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- > == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == > == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == > == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == > == Remove "NoSpam" in address to reply Thanks for all your reply. I know how to it in script. I was wondering if this should be another feature in the feature release of all mail programs. The mail programs should provide ways to encrypt folds or mails to make it a Pretty Good Mail :-) HZ hongz@seas.ucla.edu even From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 10:36:15 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02603 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA10818; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:36:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA51988; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:29:44 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA50912 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:27:51 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA27337 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 10:27:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wMzZ5-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 10:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 1 May 1997 16:31:41 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Correspond via email References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [newbie education - regular readers please advance to next article] ajurabek@uwed.freenet.uz (Jurabek Azimov): > My best regards to everybody, who is reading my my message. "Hellos" are not required on Usenet. > I'm a student. That's why I need a lack informations. s/need/have/ > Do anybody can help to promote my knowledge on political sciences. Let me promote your knowledge a bit on these things: This "mailing list" is also a Usenet newsgroup. People are reading you worldwide and they expect to read about the mailer/newsreader Pine in this group (comp.mail.pine) Your request does not meet the charta of this newsgroup. It is thus regarded as irrelevant noise. So please read the newsgroup charta before you post to see whether your post meets the expected topics! If you do not know which newsgroup is appropriate then please ask on the newsgroup news.newusers.questions first! Some newsgroups which may be appropriate are these: alt.political.* soc.politics.* talk.politics.* The star ('*') represents further names of subgroups in these hierarchies. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 11:07:09 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA19321 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA11626; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:07:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA18355; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA38000 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08958 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:08 -0700 Received: from kta.com (ptomsic@kta.com [206.210.80.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA11460 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 11:01:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (ptomsic@localhost) by kta.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA27310 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 14:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Tomsic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID JJ8Z3): Problem with move folder to x month.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been having a problem with the new month folder moving feature where it prompts me each time I start up pine to move sent-mail to x-month-sent-mail How can I get it to stop this, ie not disable the feature, but let it ask just once at the beginning of each month? Thanks Paul Tomsic From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 15:23:19 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA24714 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20724; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:23:14 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA50530; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:19:58 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA38178 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA28784 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 15:18:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wN46h-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 15:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc5652$7e43a280$0fb48e8c@localhost.u.washington.edu> Date: 1 May 1997 17:14:35 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ross Lamb" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Can Pine notify web site of incoming e-mail ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I wonder if anyone knows whether you can set up Pine so that it automatically notifies a web site of incoming e-mail messages. Seiko Message Watch have a web site where they can page me automatically if I enter a specific URL designation. I wonder whether Pine can be setup such that the URL will be "hit" everytime I receive an incomng e-mail. If anyone has any ideas I would be very grateful. Ross Lamb From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 16:38:30 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA26496 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA22584; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:38:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA14337; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:34:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA45748 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:33:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA16587 for ; Thu, 1 May 1997 16:33:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wN5KS-00038cC; Thu, 1 May 97 16:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kan1c$5cr@fu-berlin.de> Date: 1 May 1997 18:22:36 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@maddison.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: info References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yak79@uwed.freenet.uz (Yakubjan Isakov): > Dear representative of pine! uh-oh... > I would like to find one of my friend thru e-mail. He has an e-mail address > but I don't know it. What I am asking you is could you please send me the > e-mail address which I could write to so everyone using e-mail in the world > could read my message. That way I might be able to find my friend. There is no way you can find all email addresses. And it would not be a good idea, either. RTFFAQ! I suggest you contact your friend the usual way (ie phone, letter) and ask him for his address. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 01:22:14 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA31027 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29530; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:22:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07334; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:19:08 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26326 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:36 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA17703 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:35 -0700 Received: from godrejnet (godrej.gsslco.co.in [202.54.16.94]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29492 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 01:18:28 -0700 Received: from localhost by godrejnet with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA165741101; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:48:22 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 13:48:21 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: A V SHIRODKAR Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: A V SHIRODKAR To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Seeking information about pine. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine X-Sender: shiva@godrejnet X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been using pine only for the past few months and would like to know more it. Could I have more information? - Aniruddha Shirodkar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 03:42:40 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA00188 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27483; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:42:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA10027; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:40:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA20036 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:39:58 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA15335 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 03:39:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id GAA06604; Fri, 2 May 1997 06:39:35 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 06:39:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Solstice X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic > > > over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was > > > short lived. > > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. Some people prefer power over ease-of-use. I use both pico or vi depending on the circumstance. On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more > than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can > import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. So far, so good. > EMACS is comparable to VI. Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into one. vi and emacs are only comparable in the sense that comparisons can be made between them. But you can make comparisons between virtually any two editors, so that's not what you meant. You meant that they have similar functionality. That is way, way, way off. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 08:51:54 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04230 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05592; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:51:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA23771; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA48320 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:11 -0700 Received: from hq.vni.net (highway@hq.vni.net [205.252.27.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01175 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 08:46:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA18638; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Solstice To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: > > > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: > > > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was ecstatic > > > > over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my joy was > > > > short lived. > > > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor "VI" > > > to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. > > Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a > drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into > one. My mistake. The extent of use I've seen with EMACS was simply used as a text editor for programming. I stand corrected. :) "THE FATE OF BILLIONS ALL DEPEND ON YOU... HEH HEH HEH ... SORRY." - RAYDEN John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/apo (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway Central Perk Coffee House (Friends) (World Wide Web Developer) http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends =================[Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996/Spring 1997]=============== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:02:27 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA00540 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08890; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:02:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA27126; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:57:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA37328 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:05 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA15192 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:55:59 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 19:55:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01600; Fri, 2 May 1997 15:30:12 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:30:08 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: >> That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more >> than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can >> import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. >So far, so good. >> EMACS is comparable to VI. >Bzzzt...wrong. Thank you for playing. pico is the pencil. vi is a >drafting set. emacs is an engineering firm and artists colony rolled into >one. Well, now, since you seem to be in the mood for yet another boring holy war, let's lay out sensible rules first: 1. There is no such thing as vi. 2. There is no such thing as emacs. How's that? Well, there's vi, vim, viper, elvis... And there's emacs, XEmacs, jemacs, microemacs, jove... >vi and emacs are only comparable in the sense that comparisons can be >made between them. But you can make comparisons between virtually any two >editors, so that's not what you meant. You meant that they have similar >functionality. That is way, way, way off. As for the value of comparisons in general: IMAO, you can compare anything, but most of these comparisons aren't very fruitful (being a political scientist, I may draw your attention to the heated debates that arose over the theory of totalitarianism vs. theories of fascism...). Therefore, while you may well compare, say, vi to jove, comparing vi to XEmacs certainly doesn't make much sense. Yet, since almost anyone these days owns a computer that launches even emacs within 1--2 seconds, the comparison might yet be sensible because emacs has some very sensible features which pine in general and even with pico as its alternate editor lacks. Compare pine to gnus and you'll find that is is inferior in almost any respect. But then again, who needs all those features? Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. Later, Robin >On Thu, 1 May 1997, Solstice wrote: >> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, skywalker wrote: >> > On Tue, 29 Apr 1997, James Snow wrote: >> > > I've discovered that I kind of prefer vi to pico, and I was >> > > ecstatic over the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly option, but my >> > > joy was short lived. >> > Are you crazy,....how on earth could you prefer that primate editor >> > "VI" to the useful, helpful, normal interface if pico. >Some people prefer power over ease-of-use. I use both pico or vi >depending on the circumstance. - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2nsYWe8+XvDOeNZAQFfsQf/fvcVayPIKfYbOkn3/u3ukKgmDxkme84j NS2gEmxSNH773/hDEHEKE4iYgeV8P19D9uHz9KfFaUZAVpYTLfkfpD0Y9C6aH6bJ m6mOrtmZdfxZ+GibZRnQWRIN/sd/o7NdCAVqPckyZxYSh0XRKzFqMXo1ESoOYvkV w04PCAbpGRGKgTpzJUq0bXxWYkB1NbJOIgKebGk9QkQjg/xA5fMS5Cmny5JtJRHv ypVTQzCwe0zp3uALkFhh108I2Gxto4cCUEKXKafxbsHiIcWW7zAg2pxc/asvmmdr pPn27bk9uSJqoicm2SlycXi6LmCU/FyFghrac7RO5+OpFmVuEa/ZIg== =4kHc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:04:13 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA07135 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA08943; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:04:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA11487; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:38 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA43714 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:30 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA15244; Fri, 2 May 1997 10:56:20 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 19:56:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA00656; Fri, 2 May 1997 09:15:53 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 09:15:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Can Pine notify web site of incoming e-mail ? In-Reply-To: <01bc5652$7e43a280$0fb48e8c@localhost.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ross Lamb X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1 May 1997, Ross Lamb wrote: >I wonder if anyone knows whether you can set up Pine so that it >automatically notifies a web site of incoming e-mail messages. Seiko >Message Watch have a web site where they can page me automatically if I >enter a specific URL designation. I wonder whether Pine can be setup such >that the URL will be "hit" everytime I receive an incomng e-mail. And just how should it even begin to do that? Pine is an email program... There are some kluges I could think of, all of them involving cron jobs that somehow monitor your inbox (time-stamp would be an idea, like asmail or xbiff) and upon alteration launch lynx and kill it immediately. You could, of course, also abuse procmail for this purpose, but I couldn't figure out how to assign a terminal to lynx right now :-) Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2mUpme8+XvDOeNZAQEP/AgAruHm6P0fDjmfjASycZtKVhF5KmOfPX1D fmRAOoi1ML4KbjMWdDUTFyKPfrV7S32Mwo9QTcjnAsYHhSkUq+EeZxERHKIT0UdU bbVNg/MBPXxM8qfLJA5sk0Hb873TPB0Wwoa1prHIfjBavC2ks+m5VOYomj2sBQhP 0xDflkqK0152IIL3/Hjomv33KdHKWpwLP7MGVYXPHg+VMJe/rZkirowl/zzRXFuP +C0OJc+IN/TVwjUyMrvMagBP2Rc8NZ3WXyKRvqyXiMmDUBZ9QzKqWuTQyUTtgmf1 Iqa7MzGoCemiQv0a6R9Z8X/Le8GUp+hhCOOJaJWbWxW3j1vFDK0MJw== =JmRe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 11:57:20 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA07872 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA06706; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:57:12 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA26154; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:49:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA50872 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:47:52 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA20787 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 11:47:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07836; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:47:38 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 14:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: yakko.chicks.net: chicks owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > Well, now, since you seem to be in the mood for yet another boring holy > war, let's lay out sensible rules first: Lacking a true net.kook to take up a contrary side, I'll do what I can. > 1. There is no such thing as vi. > 2. There is no such thing as emacs. > > How's that? I agree mostly. In each case there is "one true" one and many variants. (And I'm not saying that the variant is in someway lacking since I use variants in each case.) But referring to "something that descended from and/or remains somewahat similar to vi" simply as "vi" seems to be an appropriate and wise expedient. > Yet, since almost anyone these days owns a computer that launches even > emacs within 1--2 seconds, the comparison might yet be sensible because > emacs has some very sensible features which pine in general and even > with pico as its alternate editor lacks. Compare pine to gnus and you'll > find that is is inferior in almost any respect. But then again, who > needs all those features? I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save me more time than that. The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but off-by-default for those users that don't want them. To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. This would make having a personal signature generator easier. In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but "culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of "expert" features. Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". :-) > Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been > all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. As it relates to the future of pine I don't intend to "bury" it. As it relates to editor religion, I have no intention of continuing given that my original point about the incomparability of emacs and vi has been thoroughly made. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 12:58:39 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA09802 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11959; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:58:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA18672; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:53:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA39690 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:34 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA11786 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:32 -0700 Received: from toolbox.rutgers.edu (toolbox.rutgers.edu [128.6.134.37]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA08110 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 12:52:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (rgaine@localhost) by toolbox.rutgers.edu (8.6.12+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA20755 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 15:52:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 15:52:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Gaine To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: reply-to MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: rgaine@toolbox.rutgers.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I make pine include a reply-to line in the header of outgoing mail? Rick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 13:12:03 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA10149 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:12:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA12367; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:11:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA15403; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:06:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA25580 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:04:56 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA28777 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 13:04:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 02 May 97 22:04:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03583; Fri, 2 May 1997 22:01:56 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 22:01:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: reply-to In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Rick Gaine X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Rick Gaine wrote: >How do I make pine include a reply-to line in the header of outgoing >mail? By doing what we all did when we didn't know pine --- reading the docu? customized-hdrs Add these custom headers when composing. Also possible to add default values to these custom headers or to any of the standard headers. This is a list variable. Each entry in the list is a header name (the actual header name that will appear in the message) followed by an optional colon and value. For example, if a Reply-to header was needed because it was different from the From address, that could be accomplished with: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: fred_flintstone@bedrock.net HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2pILme8+XvDOeNZAQF3Mwf+Kl+ZxJn8r0SPMz11Fq99bLfpHi2qwZip 9WIEX25y9Q7WWnL1ZgF+w0EkKdWJegTwqKoAfitr9V7yvzT8hSif7w9/m3Zi2v/t aqxuaU/dyuxiCGxNfasHDYqmkQ4J0G/WqB7TTyZTMK0ue2YzWs1pADc71Ex5mbzA q7gLCgLvKdlyyXCxd5QmYAAI5vLGgnu2kw0wYJ6mhYKJu311TTG8LWkZ8tlPZUvC A5/zDCfSgEVhUeKFYYE8SHnG3GfPLBZqz3xA8QxU9BZDWAAB9FTVMVqRsBq3QOuT eRBpnJOkKLBOqeozh+GIQBaf0qf6WvoWKEURn5JtijzizmYgTA+Csw== =o6ml -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 14:30:46 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA11511 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA10401; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:30:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22875; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:25:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA40160 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:24:46 -0700 Received: from ns.dnsserver.com (qmailr@[208.14.0.252]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA06394 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 14:24:25 -0700 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 0); 2 May 1997 21:13:33 -0000 Received: from www8.clever.net (kguida@206.31.79.1) by smtp.clever.net with SMTP; 2 May 1997 21:13:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (kguida@localhost) by www8.clever.net (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA11387 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:20:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 17:20:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kguida@www8.clever.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. I am new at using pine, and I really want to know if there is any way to download my incoming messages (all together) into a file that I can open with Microsoft word. I have searched forever for a 'capture' or 'download' command, but I'm lost. Can anyone help? Thanks! Kristen Guida New York, NY kguida@freedomhouse.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 17:17:54 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14233 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA17824; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:17:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00967; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA08222 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:34 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20778 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:28 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 02:13:12 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA01770; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:38:02 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 01:37:57 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kguida@www8.clever.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997 kguida@www8.clever.net wrote: >I am new at using pine, and I really want to know if there is any way to >download my incoming messages (all together) into a file that I can open >with Microsoft word. Yes, but there are a couple of things you need to specify first: 1. You seem to working on BSDi, so: Are you familiar with ftp? Can your windows do it? 2. Have you set a path for your read messages in the setup? If so, you can use this file. If not, you need to check where your inbox is and use that file. 3. Are you aware of the fact that email messages look kinda strange? You should consider piping the file through printmail before raping it with word. (This won't work with the procedure I'm suggesting below) 4. Why on earth do you want to "postprocess" *giggle* your email messages with word? While 1-3 are somewhat essential, 4 is not that important :-) >I have searched forever for a 'capture' or 'download' command, but I'm >lost. Oh yeah? Although I do like "capture", try saying something like this next time... grep -i download Read_Me/Pine-docu/* which will tell you this... download-command This option affects the behavior of the Export command. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer the exported message to your personal computer's disk. download-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Download-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting the download command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). I didn't bother trying what those do, but I could imagine that using this in connection with the aggregate-command stuff might also lead to a result. Which result exactly, I cannot say... [1 minute later...] Yup, that's what you want. Enable aggregate-command in the setup, too, then say: ; a a e i.e.: select select All Apply Export Now, you need to tweak the download commands according to your needs and you're there. >kguida@freedomhouse.org Is that your reply-to address? Then you should put it in the header... HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2p612e8+XvDOeNZAQG5aQf+J0n7453cUNVU3uYFLzV+pOInI8dmzpDD dUtySbngan1bDvt0H8rW+aS4eaikh6dYDNI/A51AT/6tlNnrk8w7MrV3BK3TG0QZ WhL7wQWRFLAKwALOxRQa9y7J8Zg9Fs9LcjgNRV2C0tD2+cj3scfvuKgK5nMLdPyf odf16iUXwK0AgbYYOFz4o7WGiCsHAbji9HaOdEK3bkp/iza2YHQDMrfno50FPyqD UbY9JvIUly0W2bPbkpvpubKHEaZ3zYeIaAxU8lPk3stD8O1jL4fmOgehFrc5Wlyo gOJ1j2kLPwoQeC865DtDKg95/udxU2dsuQr8Gt34VxLfDpKJ0OJrLw== =Zt4g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 17:18:09 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14443 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14154; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:18:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00995; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:14:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA38190 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:37 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20795 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 17:13:34 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 02:13:17 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA00502; Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:18 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:12 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: [...] [features in mailers] >I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of >quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. "supercite"? >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save >me more time than that. "BBDB"? >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? >To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with >lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. Can you say "(add-hook 'mail-yank-hooks 'sc-cite-original)" in elisp? >This would make having a personal signature generator easier. "Random flames"? >In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good >thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but >"culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of >"expert" features. What's wrong with that? Personally, I found "growing up" with pine quite refreshing. I found that it doesn't cover all of my needs anymore, so I might move to Gnus in the end, but I like the idea of having a program that is foolproof in vanilla-mode but quite powerful when modified. >Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". "Perl users are sick, twisted programmers who are just showing off." >> Therefore, I'd suggest burying this thread, if I may, because it's been >> all over the net for years, and there doesn't seem to be a solution. >As it relates to the future of pine I don't intend to "bury" it. As it >relates to editor religion, I have no intention of continuing given that >my original point about the incomparability of emacs and vi has been >thoroughly made. Let's put it this way: If it wasn't for its poor yanking, pico would cover 99% of everybody's needs as an editor in pine. And there's this, too: 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) vim is a monster and big, too. It's a powerful tool, but its a typical example of user-unfriendliness IMAO. :-) Let's use joe instead... >:-> Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P++>+++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2phW2e8+XvDOeNZAQE1Ugf/WR1DygGmeoa4hD4ZLB+rBlcOPoVh3/e7 wovNEsOlOTTyoANjsV8Z8JfksXkQYZLChr/VQ8WgdTHPsWDsEswKa25YI7hx9zue JyZjEKEO2jv8en5VCZrF1kHK5TXMZZkRhbBKfgn50pN66DjqWm4vuicnFWXMb2I6 Dgkzhze64n0+VfLx3/gFuCXUePhgwUNVNIva05Q5Mq03Od712IXhtDhD34DnqZ1s WsJ1pwo9GBFNV76fQ9raQnvn1b+v4gCkdHlkoFjccVOjpkFll0eAzLHxUh6YSynr eEWCl1mh4KesDr3vLwgodwaLN2zGWlj4lvMS/n9vmzjc3kB1hkDHzQ== =+HCh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA14772 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA18471; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:07:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA46760; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:04:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA36662 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:03:26 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA00569 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 18:03:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA08737; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > [features in mailers] > >I need those features. Something that was smarter about justification of > >quoted blocks would save me ten minutes per week. > > "supercite"? Do we have patches to make it work in pine? > >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save > >me more time than that. > > "BBDB"? I'm not familiar with that acronym, would you explain it? > >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but > >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. > > ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? Bigger isn't bad if done properly. > >To be honest, I'd like to see us embed perl (or some lisp) in pine with > >lots of hooks that would allow functions to be called for certain events. > > Can you say "(add-hook 'mail-yank-hooks 'sc-cite-original)" in elisp? Yes I can. Bud I'd rather say it in perl so it wouldn't sound so overly parenthetical. > >This would make having a personal signature generator easier. > > "Random flames"? Flickers. > >In fact, building a pine-compatible email program in perl might be a good > >thing. Pine provides a very good user interface and is very stable, but > >"culturally" it encourages minimalism while supporting a number of > >"expert" features. > > What's wrong with that? Personally, I found "growing up" with pine quite > refreshing. I found that it doesn't cover all of my needs anymore, so I > might move to Gnus in the end, but I like the idea of having a program that > is foolproof in vanilla-mode but quite powerful when modified. It is quite powerful, but it lacks the flexibility and easy modifiability of something like gnus or a perl-based MUA. > >Hmmmm.... perl needs some more free "applications". > > "Perl users are sick, twisted programmers who are just showing off." But showing off is so fun and can be quite useful. "What is the sound of Perl? Is it not the sound of a wall that people have stopped banging their heads against?" --Larry Wall in <1992Aug26.184221.29627@netlabs.com> "Waving away a cloud of smoke, I look up, and am blinded by a bright, white light. It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God. In a booming voice, He says: "THIS IS A SIGN. USE LINUX, THE FREE UNIX SYSTEM FOR THE 386." (Matt Welsh) > Let's put it this way: If it wasn't for its poor yanking, pico would cover > 99% of everybody's needs as an editor in pine. The other 1% are those of who are supporting the other 99%. The 1% are the ones who have to install this stuff. If you can make the 1% happier and not annoyt the 99% much then you'll have a more popular product. > And there's this, too: > > 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* > 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) > 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* > 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) > > vim is a monster and big, too. It's a powerful tool, but its a typical > example of user-unfriendliness IMAO. :-) Let's use joe instead... >:-> And the perl binary itself is probably on the same size as emacs. That's life. Big doesn't have to be unfriendly. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA16083 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA20889; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:35:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA10107; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA06120 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA04174 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:27 -0700 Received: from bubble.yonsei.ac.kr (bubble.yonsei.ac.kr [165.132.10.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA17142 for ; Fri, 2 May 1997 21:32:22 -0700 Received: (from allanv@localhost) by bubble.yonsei.ac.kr (8.6.9H1/8.6.9) id NAA22175; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:32:14 +0900 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 13:32:14 +0900 (KST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ALLAN VILLARANTE To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Request of Philippine addresses In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Sat, 3 May 1997, ALLAN VILLARANTE wrote: > > > > > Mabuhay! > > > > Kindly provide me addresses of e-mail subscribers from the > > Philippines specifically those connected with the University of the > > Philippines in Diliman, Quezon City. I suppose you have records of them > > inasmuch as you have data bank for all your clients. I would be very > > glad to know much about the things that are currently happening in my > > country and the current events at the University of the Philippines since I > > will staying here in Seoul for the next eight months. > > > > Thank you very much in advance for the generous assistance. > > > > > > ALLAN JOSE JUSTINIANI VILLARANTE > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18111 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23861; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16772; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:29 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46936 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00523 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaO2-00038iC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kan7j$5cr@fu-berlin.de> Date: 1 May 1997 18:25:55 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@maddison.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: info References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sarrahim@uwed.freenet.uz (Sanjar Rahimov): > Could you give me some direction how to get news from e-mail. Yes. But as you are using a newsreader already, you don't need to get news by email. So I won't. > I tried to set the news file in the way it is said in "Help" section, > but failed. Well, I think you need someone to help you locally. Please let someone show you! > And I can not get what does "[Can't change sys-admin defined value]". > What should I do if this phrase appears? Ignore it. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18101 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20047; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:46:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16719; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA45120 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21091 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaNd-00038hC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 23:44:25 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Pollak To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Difference between LCC and BCC? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments appreciated. Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18077 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20063; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16748; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46928 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:38 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA12511 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaNL-00038gC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kbesr$eda8@wombat.wm.edu> Date: 2 May 1997 01:09:47 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Solstice wrote: > >That's because VI is a very powerful TEXT editor and can do a lot more >than PICO. VI can search and replace all instances in a text. VI can >import unix shell output (e.g. :r !ls -FL) text onto its message body. >EMACS is comparable to VI. Definately, agreed! Once you're used to vi, you'll never go back to pico. Pico is great for non-UNIX-geeks, but is extraordinarily primative in terms of its capabilities. Ever try to do something moderately complicated, say, take a UNIX /etc/passwd file, and strip out everything but the list of usernames (i.e. delete everything after the first ':' in each line) in pico? You'd have to go through each line individually...with vi (or sed), it's one simple regular expression, that's maybe ten or fewer characters long. -- Scott Norwood: snorwood@nyx.net, snorwood@balloon.ml.org, senorw@mail.wm.edu Lame Home Page #1: http://balloon.ml.org/ <-- School year only Lame Home Page #2: http://www.nyx.net/~snorwood/ <-- Regular page Lame Quote: Penguins? In Snack Canyon? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18073 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23877; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA45066; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:44:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46944 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:42 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA22258 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaOr-00038kC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> Date: 2 May 1997 09:50:56 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: boran@dat95abs.campus.mdh.se (Bussiga Boran) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help with Viewing Images References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Bull writes: > > For some reason, I can't seem to view images in email or on newsgroups. > Any suggestions? I realize this is basic, but darned if I can figure it > out. Thanks. Have you tried: setup->config->image viewer='the program you wish to use'? -- Bussiga Boran ***************************************************************************** "Windows is not the answer, Windows is the question, the answer is no." ***************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18151 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23886; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA16696; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:48 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA45108 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA22255 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaMz-00038fC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kbegv$50ce@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: 2 May 1997 01:03:27 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jong-min@iepapc.ie.wisc.edu (Jong-Min Park) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mapping menus to different keys? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way to map menu keys to those I prefer? I find it very inconsistent to navigate across folder lists/email lists/etc. by using different keys depending on where you are. I like the way tin newsreader or lynx web browser uses, for example, where the same keys are used for entering/exiting a list or a message or a link, especially structuring everything as a hierarchy where you move up and down the level. pine seems to not structure things the same way. You have to know where you want to specifically go, such as 'M' for main menu, 'L' for folder list (except for 'E' to exit help), etc. I rather have left arrow key to get where I was before, and right arrow to get into a selected item, no matter what the item is or what item I'm looking at. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18088 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20072; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA45132; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:08 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46952 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21095 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaOU-00038jC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 2 May 1997 05:39:30 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: password in Linux Pine ??? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997 17:46:50 +0200, Eigil Krogh Sorensen wrote: >How do I get Pine 3.96 on linux to remember my password ? > >The Pine uses another machine as the mailserver (Includes SMTP, INBOX ond >Mailfolders) Truth is, you really don't want Pine to remember your password. It would pose a serious security threat, since someone could use your saved password to gain access to the remote machine, and maybe exhibit nasty behaviour with your userid. As for SMTP, I'm not sure you even need to enter your password for this, but then I have sendmail handle outgoing mail on my machine... If you really don't want to have to type in your password to get your mail, consider a package like fetchmail, or some such, but as always, be aware of the security implications... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi "I may not be totally perfect, but parts of me are excellent." -- Ashleigh Brilliant ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18155 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA23889; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:47:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA43654; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46960 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA12514 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaPA-00038lC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kba46$977@due.unit.no> Date: 1 May 1997 23:48:22 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , Sven Guckes wrote: > >Added to the Pine-4 wishlist: > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist Would you put something there about making pine multi-threaded so it doesn't lock up every time it rewrites the inbox? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18128 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20087; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:48:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA43990; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:45:38 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA46968 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:48 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00526 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 01:43:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNaPe-00038mC; Sat, 3 May 97 01:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:32:03 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mark Crispin To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "message to save shrank" error in pine 3.92 In-Reply-To: <5kcr7l$853@news.duke.edu> References: <5kcr7l$853@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2 May 1997, Steven McElwee wrote: > Every now and then some pine users on my system run into the following > error when attempting to save a message to another folder: > > Message to save shrank! (#10: 2887 -> 1606) > > I've looked at the source code for pine 3.92 and have tracked this error > message to mailcmd.c. I'm still confused about what conditions are responsible for this occurring. I'd appreciate it if someone could > provide me with some enlightenment about this. This is a bug which should be gone once and for all in Pine 4.00. The most common cause is NULs in messages; Pine 3.xx is not NUL-safe. The error message occurs when the calculated header + text size is less than the reported "full RFC 822 size". The lower levels (imap-3.6 toolkit) know the true size of the data, but Pine's upper levels has no way to find it out other than by strlen() which terminates on NULs. We are trying to make Pine 4.00 fully NUL-safe and eliminate strlen() calls. As of the imap-4 tookit, the lower levels pass up the true size of the data to the upper levels. Pine 4.00 uses the imap-4.1 tookit. Regrettably, it is not possible to build Pine 3.9x with the imap-4.1 toolkit; you'll have to wait for Pine 4.00 to come out. We're working on it as fast as we can! -- Mark -- Unsolicited commercial email is NOT welcome at this email address. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA20018 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA21656; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:14:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA19045; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:39 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA43530 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:04 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03949 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:12:00 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 3 May 1997 19:12:23 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 19:12:22 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Difference between LCC and BCC? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Pollak X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 May 1997, Michael Pollak wrote: > I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just > fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias > with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. > > Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments > appreciated. It turns a 2 step process into a 1 step process? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19615 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA21699; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:17:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA19161; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA49368 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA16020 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 04:15:25 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 13:15:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA01655; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:44:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 11:43:58 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help with Viewing Images In-Reply-To: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bussiga Boran X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 2 May 1997, Bussiga Boran wrote: >>Bull writes: >> For some reason, I can't seem to view images in email or on newsgroups. >Have you tried: >setup->config->image viewer='the program you wish to use'? Good but not very flexible. Probably better: Check if you have metamail (you probably will). Have a look at the mailcap file (should be /etc/mailcap) and add a line like: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ # the test line specifies that this viewer should only be used if # the display variable is set. image/jpeg; xv %s; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" # The following sends all other image subtypes to xloadimage image/*; xloadimage %s; ; test=test -n "$DISPLAY" -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ That in itself isn't all that superior to Bussiga's solution, but there should be some explanatory notes on further uses in connection with image viewers in the mailcap file. Take for instance a situation in which Notscape is already running. You could check for this and save yourself the time of starting a new viewer. You could also take a CLI jpeg--viewer and launch X viewers only for other images. Blablabla... ;-) HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2sI4We8+XvDOeNZAQG2cgf+KPnYIZtKHNu4O88joIvIxHNjeHEMBjE6 MHzq+Nyy815xQ0iNPQJchWtnfJ2U55icJtG9BIuX33TGi/cMCecPH5gQUbr00hS+ zY6T8hBqtJzX+jBI53bI7StaaYmPycYY/1ur6yaeu3pV+2vkRErvvlLL30+TynmW Rw42rE0mFOoqmiujGoF6xmksa+YVOxN5ZUiiOKQyKlmdkt5SmFVBn5Wsz4Sqt+hR iBn16CP+laEUarfohG5tiTHaDVfNIdbGSUqhiUSxd1DwuNTTtmx1J+iSqaiu4LOg WEtuVSCzczdlDJOfMkTxp3ceDq1DijVcfdvNt1T8uTKrMUURSk+tSQ== =P5Vp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA22231 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA29557; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:29:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA29266; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:25:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA35188 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:24:53 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA28685 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 10:24:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNiXg-00038fC; Sat, 3 May 97 10:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kfhcm$1c0m@berlioz.crs4.it> Date: 3 May 1997 14:16:54 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: amonni@bode.diee.unica.it (Andrea Monni) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Changing the From: field X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm sorry for the (maybe) FAQ but I've been 10 days looking for the answer without finding anything! I'm using pine 3.91 and I'm tryng to change the From: address but I cannot, I can only change the domain part of my email, not the user id. I've tried customizing the From: header but pine tells me it's impossible... d'u have some clue on how to do it? Or do I have to use the reply-to? TIA and sorry for the FAQ, Andrea -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |\ _,,,--,,_ Andrea Monni /,`.-'`' ._ \-;;,_ AIESEC Italy Regional Director |,4- ) )_ .;.( `'-' http://www.aiesec.org '---''(_/._)-'(_\_) AMiGA & Cats Lover! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tell me, Lucifer Morningstar... Ask yourselves, all of you... What power would HELL have if those here imprisoned were NOT able to DREAM of HEAVEN? -The Sandman- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22533 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26163; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:16:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA00734; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:12:42 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA42684 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:11:54 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10273 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:11:52 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA13858; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:11:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25348; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:11:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:11:45 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: snorwood@balloon.ml.org's message of 2 May 1997 01:09:47 GMT References: <5kbesr$eda8@wombat.wm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN snorwood@balloon.ml.org (Scott Norwood) writes: > In article , > Solstice wrote: > >EMACS is comparable to VI. Much in the way that a Jaguar XK8 is comparable to a Gremlin - they're both cars. > Definately, agreed! Once you're used to vi, you'll never go back > to pico. Pico is great for non-UNIX-geeks, but is extraordinarily > primative in terms of its capabilities. Ever try to do something I disagree. When I'm writing e-mail, I want all of the word processing frills, like word wrap, easy navigation (w/o having to switch modes), etc. For that, I used Pico. When I need an editor for quick-and-dirty shell-script editing, or something similar, I use vi. Vi is better IMHO for editing when appearance doesn't count. When I'm doing real coding, I use XEmacs. It's all a matter of using the right tool for the right job... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA21955 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26257; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:25:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA01115; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:30 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA55230 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:18 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10114 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:21:16 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA14016; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:21:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25578; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:21:03 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: Robin S Socha's message of Fri, 2 May 1997 23:49:12 +0200 (CEST) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin S Socha writes: > And there's this, too: > > 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* > 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) > 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* > 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) On what planet? [simmonmt@phoenix]:1:14pm:~> ls -l /p/pine-3.95/../*/pine ... 2035712 Aug 7 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../hp9k7-hpux9/pine* ... 1585620 Jan 20 16:37 /p/pine-3.95/../i86pc-sos5/pine* ... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix5/pine* ... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix6/pine* ... 2039808 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos4/pine* ... 2456708 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos5/pine* (yes, they're all stripped) [simmonmt@phoenix]:1:18pm:/p/p20/xemacs-19.15> ls -l */xemacs -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4861952 Apr 3 13:26 hp9k7-hpux9/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3172384 Apr 2 16:30 i86pc-sos5/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 5584088 Mar 27 19:57 mips-irix5/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3953712 Apr 3 15:13 mips-irix6/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4292608 Mar 27 18:41 sun4-sos4/xemacs* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 3358164 Mar 27 21:55 sun4-sos5/xemacs* Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22653 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA26329; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:32:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA01300; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:31 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA55066 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:16 -0700 Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu (0@arthur.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA10896 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 11:27:15 -0700 Received: from phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (1485@phoenix.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.59]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) with ESMTP id NAA14100; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by phoenix.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.4/PURDUE_CS-1.4) id NAA25668; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:27:09 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: 03 May 1997 13:27:08 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: Christopher Hicks's message of Fri, 2 May 1997 21:03:01 -0400 (EDT) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Mailer: Gnus v5.4.45/XEmacs 19.15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Christopher Hicks writes: > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > > On Fri, 2 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: > > [features in mailers] > > >I need those features. Something that was smarter about > > >justification of quoted blocked would save me ten minutes per week. > > "supercite"? > Do we have patches to make it work in pine? Just as soon as you rewrite it in lisp. =) > > >Having an addressbook that has better functionality built in would save > > >me more time than that. > > "BBDB"? > I'm not familiar with that acronym, would you explain it? BBDB stands for the Insidious Big Brother Database, a wonderful package that functions as sort of a rolodex on steroids. It has all of the functionality of the Pine addressbook, but it also supports user-defined fields, it can automagically build database entries by scanning your mail messages, and it can (with Gnus, don't know about other mailers), tag messages from people for whom you have BBDB entries. > > >The beauty of pine is that these features can be added, but > > >off-by-default for those users that don't want them. > > ...thereby making pine even bigger than it already is? > Bigger isn't bad if done properly. Which is why I do so love the lisp subdirectory (or site-lisp) found in *Emacs installations. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA23286 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA27391; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:09:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA08971; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:04:55 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA43966 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:02:57 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA14845 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 13:02:55 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 03 May 97 22:02:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA05874; Sat, 3 May 1997 21:48:55 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 21:48:48 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: simmonmt@acm.org X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 3 May 1997, Matt Simmons wrote: >Robin S Socha writes: [snipped some giant ls -al soapbox, just to be back with a vengeance] Ok, here's what I got...: 15785 root 1 0 2464 2464 1656 T 0 0.0 7.9 0:00 xemacs 15738 root 0 0 2092 2012 908 S 0 0.0 6.4 0:01 pine 15789 root 6 0 716 716 524 S 0 0.0 2.3 0:00 vi 15783 root 1 0 628 628 336 S 0 0.0 2.0 0:00 joe >Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M >lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. I fully agree. XEmacs rules, Gnus's better than pine. Objections anyone? But can you use Gnus on your CLI without refcard? Would you give it to an inexperienced user? =8-} Would you moderate the mailing list for it? However, I still cannot quite see where this thread is leading to. While in general, I share your views on expandability and customization, I think that you're aiming at the wrong target. IMAO, a user that needs the features you're asking for doesn't need pine anymore, but is better off using Gnus instead, anyway. I mean, the spirit of u*ix (correct me if I'm wrong again) is to combine several tools to achieve various goals: in this sense, I don't see XEmacs as an editor, but rather as an environment for basically everything I need for my work (programming, email, news, www, making coffee [does anyone remember the name of that .el which lets you hook up electric gadgets?). You seem to be thinking along the same lines, so your suggestions might miss the target, because pine is a specialised tool. Its purpose is emails and news, not a full-fledged database (BBDB), filtering (procmail), fancy yanking (supercite), or even encryption (those filter-scripts are nice, but mailcrypt is ultimately better). All _I_ want is better yanking in pico, and maybe pgp within pine (which cannot be done for reasons of US legislation). If you could come up with a Deluxe version of pine that turns into a pizza with a large Coke at midnight, everybody would love you. So here we are, deploring the world's injustice, dreaming of a better world in which Alphas come at $500 and everyone has a 300MB Ramdisk... *sigh* I guess it's one of those lonely Saturday evenings... >:-> Have a nice weekend, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2uWo2e8+XvDOeNZAQF9yQgAimUeqZn3TVjPsn7BpaZ5GU2B0pYEhuNL o3Yi6i+UvpiGnz6cIhw8RzmyzqlDY/v2KcEGskEmEqv7pZSKBDraP4SSTCRzzAhx B+S2uIPF1+LtqiJ5fqgjZi1RFBPSeTCI5t+Y8qyQgHGqu/+4dVoakbFPVJxJvzyK Tkz7Y+rt28QitdFf0VQBnxSkhTVHHsgTPztPDR1ylkL+uGNDI/54AkvFJpjrI4FG btLyc12ccK/P7Eikn68ziXTo/1Prxbc1/RVLSe8x5F05tmALXHZM4s3I3nwSV32v d7+VhLcNhBup50Ok+aS9P/KRrY0ibgk3gCf7E4HzXlO7MsCtki6i7A== =FYUe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25337 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00285; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:32:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA50470; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:29:26 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA45232 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:59 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25731 for ; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:58 -0700 Received: from tuppence_cac (D-140-142-189-198.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.189.198]) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA08233; Sat, 3 May 1997 17:28:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 17:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mapping menus to different keys? In-Reply-To: <5kbegv$50ce@news.doit.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jong-Min Park X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There will be some improvements in this area in Pine 4.00 -teg On 2 May 1997, Jong-Min Park wrote: > > Is there any way to map menu keys to those I prefer? I find it very > inconsistent to navigate across folder lists/email lists/etc. by > using different keys depending on where you are. > > I like the way tin newsreader or lynx web browser uses, for example, > where the same keys are used for entering/exiting a list or a message > or a link, especially structuring everything as a hierarchy where you > move up and down the level. > > pine seems to not structure things the same way. You have to know > where you want to specifically go, such as 'M' for main menu, 'L' > for folder list (except for 'E' to exit help), etc. > > I rather have left arrow key to get where I was before, and right > arrow to get into a selected item, no matter what the item is or > what item I'm looking at. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA01334 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09778; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:13:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA23355; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:57:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA06088 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:50:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA10014 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:50:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNvvj-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 00:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 02:09:38 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Antony To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hy there! I'm new in this section and would like to know from any "prof" if there is any possibility to: * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail address (home-address), as a background task... * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail address (home-address), eg. twice a day. (even if one is not logged on) Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very welcome!!! Thanx! Antony PS: System is Linux, Pine 3.95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28521 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09878; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:21:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA27794; Sun, 4 May 1997 01:06:34 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA05936 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:51:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA10039 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 00:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wNvwP-00038gC; Sun, 4 May 97 00:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ke858$9t4@crl.crl.com> Date: 2 May 1997 19:33:12 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: katwoman@crl.com (M. Hunter) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In rant <336A8242.4675@sade.com>, Antony babbled: >Hy there! > >I'm new in this section and would like to know from any "prof" if there >is >any possibility to: > * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail >address (home-address), as a background task... > * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > (even if one is not logged on) >Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very >welcome!!! > >Thanx! > >Antony > >PS: System is Linux, Pine 3.95 Suggestion: try man forward This should be able to do the closest thing you're looking for. Also, as far as sending an INBOX, find out where the inbox is stored..like /var/mail/username or something, and read man at or man cron and tell at or cron to send the file at a certain time by doing this: cat mailfile | mail recipient@host.dom You might use cron. It's easier. You use the crontab command. If you use at, type at time1 'cat mailfile | mail user;at time1 cat mailfile | mail user' at time2 'cat mailfile | mail user;at time2 cat mailfile | mail user' the second at is to tell at to run the command again, as once it runs it, it'll just forget it. cron on the other hand remembers...but some systems won't let normal users use cron... :) hope this helps. -- Phyre | By sending unsolicited, commercial email to | this email address, you agree to recieve up http://www.crl.com/~katwoman | to 2 gigabytes of random core dump in return. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA19392 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA12087; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:22:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA25010; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:17:34 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA06078 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:10:51 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03735 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 04:10:49 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA19852 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 4 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705041000.DAA19852@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 4 03:00:07 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA32553 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA15841; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:07:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA17691; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:04:20 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA31376 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:24 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA25816 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wO4c2-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 09:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc58aa$028841a0$836aa5c6@default> Date: 4 May 1997 16:37:34 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. Black" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Apology for posting! X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to extend my utmost apologies for any inconvenience, insult or offence I may have caused to the users of this newsgroup by my posting of Big Bucks 2 on May 3, 1997. I am a new user to the newsgroups and did not realize that I was doing anything wrong. Again I apologize for this matter. C. Blackmore. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20971 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16322; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:49:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA26986; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:44:22 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA48330 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:32 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA27525 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:31 -0700 Received: from nicon.nicon.org (roberts@nicon.nicon.org [207.53.163.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16250 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (roberts@localhost) by nicon.nicon.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24993 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:28 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Sylvester To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: export text MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I prYnt or Export e-mail messages to a text file on my computer? any help will be greatly appreciated. Bob Sylvester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA00512 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA12618; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:12:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA09315; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA40152 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:28 -0700 Received: from mail.ilnk.com (mail.ilnk.com [206.72.159.4]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA01351 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 12:08:19 -0700 Received: from [205.131.2.14] by mail.ilnk.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA45 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:09:07 -0400 Message-Id: <336CEC6A.64C2@ilnk.com> Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 15:07:06 -0500 Reply-To: jackpot@ilnk.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jackpot@ilnk.com (Voelker, Roy) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "Pine Discussion Forum" "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN someone is sending me all your mail. i now have over 1100 messages for you in my mailbox. check to see if we are on your mailing list and remove us if so. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA17618 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA14413; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:36:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA22342; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:28:45 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA49548 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA08016 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 14:27:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wO8n4-00038fC; Sun, 4 May 97 14:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 23:08:03 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MAILCAP Syntax References: <5kcde0$7nl@aragorn.mdh.se> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Several quick questions. (1) In MAILCAP.SAM there are two examples for specifying an application to process a MIME attachment. Is the semicolon, ";". a part of the syntax? Or, is it there to have the remainder of the line treated as a comment? (2) If there is an entry in MAILCAP for a specific MIME type, does there need to be a corresponding entry in MIMETYPE? (3) If MAILCAP exists, must MIMETYPE also exist? Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA02064 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA19662; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:42:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA24090; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:36:11 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA27896 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:52 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20374 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:49 -0700 Received: from mx1.eskimo.com (mx1.eskimo.com [204.122.16.48]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA14996 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:47 -0700 Received: from eskimo.com (sulla@eskimo.com [204.122.16.13]) by mx1.eskimo.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA16249 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by eskimo.com (8.8.5) id PAA06354; Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 15:35:42 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: sulla@pobox.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Carlos Nunes-Ueno To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Annoying messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits out, like these: Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? and Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? My current problem is that I can't get these to stop coming up. I've never had a use for this "feature" anyway, but I've ingored it in the past because it only came up once a month. Is there anyway I can turn it off, now that it's decided to ask me every single last time? +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |-Carlos Nunes-Ueno sulla@pobox.com Eskimo North, gotta love it!-| |----------------------------------------------------------------------------| |"The wood porch faced east. First sunrise burned the mist from the hilly | |hollows, then dried out the webs spiders spun overnight between leaves of | |grass. A distant chain saw cut into the birdsong; the rising wind whipped | |blue butterflies with stalks of goldenrod." | | -Actual copy from a Japanese brand of instant coffee | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02972 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20716; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:16:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA23374; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:43 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA37060 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:16 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA13727 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:14 -0700 Received: from mail.mel.aone.net.au (mail.mel.aone.net.au [203.12.176.157]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA20679 for ; Sun, 4 May 1997 17:12:11 -0700 Received: from d135-1.cpe.Hamilton.aone.net.au (d135-1.cpe.Hamilton.aone.net.au [203.61.49.135]) by mail.mel.aone.net.au (8.6.13/8.6.11) with SMTP id KAA13844 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:08 +1000 Message-Id: <336D25AB.72F8@h140.aone.net.au> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 10:11:23 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maree Bell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: re: characterists of radita pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Win95; I; 16bit) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.09/msg00044.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN we would be most grateful if you could forward information on the above to our college library. student is dean cameron with thanks maree bell librarian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA06840 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA21991; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:07:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA14765; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id CAA43908 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:28 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id CAA27317 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 02:04:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOJgW-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 02:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:54:33 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Barry Landy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Annoying messages In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Use your favourite editor to edit pinerc (setup config cannot do the following). Look for the line last-time-prune-questioned=97.5 (the last numbers will be the last year and month) Set the final number to something very large (i have 999.99), eg: last-time-prune-questioned=999.99 You will never see the messages again....! On 4 May 1997, Carlos Nunes-Ueno wrote: :>As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits :>out, like these: :> :>Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? :> :>and :> :>Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? :> :>My current problem is that I can't get these to stop coming up. I've :>never had a use for this "feature" anyway, but I've ingored it in the past :>because it only came up once a month. Is there anyway I can turn it off, :>now that it's decided to ask me every single last time? :> :>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ :>|-Carlos Nunes-Ueno sulla@pobox.com Eskimo North, gotta love it!-| :>|----------------------------------------------------------------------------| :>|"The wood porch faced east. First sunrise burned the mist from the hilly | :>|hollows, then dried out the webs spiders spun overnight between leaves of | :>|grass. A distant chain saw cut into the birdsong; the rising wind whipped | :>|blue butterflies with stalks of goldenrod." | :>| -Actual copy from a Japanese brand of instant coffee | :>+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ :> :> :> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08973 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29143; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:41:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA19286; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:31:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA39962 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:30:09 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA17936 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:30:08 -0700 Received: from dev.abc.com.uz (root@dev.abc.com.uz [194.58.80.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA24155 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:29:57 -0700 Received: (from uufree@localhost) by dev.abc.com.uz with UUCP id RAA00661 (8.8.4/abc); Mon, 5 May 1997 17:11:36 +0500 Received: from hal.freenet.uz (nturdiev@hal.freenet.uz [194.58.80.2]) by joshua.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-2) with ESMTP id PAA26578; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:55:12 +0500 Received: from localhost (nturdiev@localhost) by hal.freenet.uz (8.8.5/FreeNET-1) with SMTP id PAA25680; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:57:14 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:57:14 +0600 (TSD) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nodir Turdiev To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Robin S Socha X-Sender: nturdiev@hal.freenet.uz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN HI!!! I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). ======================================================= Nodir Turdiev UWE&D, IER depart. Tashkent. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08757 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29158; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:43:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA19455; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:39:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA41488 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:38:52 -0700 Received: from lwcunix.lwc.edu (LWCUNIX.LWC.EDU [159.230.37.17]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA18338 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:38:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by lwcunix.lwc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17942; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:50:50 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Tsigaridas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and Win95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... Thanks alot! Greg Tsigaridas gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08421 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA29329; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:59:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA20153; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:55:19 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA36822 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:54:59 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA26669 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 05:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wONFT-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 05:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 12:50:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> <5kba46$977@due.unit.no> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen): > Sven Guckes wrote: > >Added to the Pine-4 wishlist: > > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist > > Would you put something there about making pine multi-threaded > so it doesn't lock up every time it rewrites the inbox? I would do so if I didn't have to read all posts in all newsgroups so I catch someone suggesting it in some subthread. ;-) Read: Send me an email about it and I'll see about adding it. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08565 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA00207; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:01:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA36646; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:50:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA43960 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:49:43 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA29899 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 06:49:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id IAA29700; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:49:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:49:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and Win95 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Tsigaridas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greg: A common problem that I had my share of frustration with also! The packaged emulator that ships with Win95 does not accept the printer control codes that are passed when you "print-from-ansi". You need a different emulator. Here are two I suggest, both free, and work great: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zander/ewan.html EWAN Terminal Emulator Not much of a looker, but a great, dependable product. (I'm using it now!) http://www.hilgraeve.com/htpe.html HyperTerminal Upgrade This company wrote the HyperTerminal applet that shipped with Win95, but as it stands, it doesn't support Telnet. This upgrade does, and has some other cool enhancements. It's called the HyperTerminal Private Edition. *Both* of the above support printer control codes and print great. My preference is for the HyperTerminal upgrade. I find it easier to format the page for printing, and you can set margins, etc. (much like a word processor). But, try 'em both out. Both downloads are less than 1 meg, I believe, and both are good products for different reasons. Try and decide. Hope this helps! Regards, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Mon, 5 May 1997, Greg Tsigaridas wrote: > > Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) > please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages > and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... > > Thanks alot! > > Greg Tsigaridas > gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10063 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA00740; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:35:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA35294; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:31:01 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA05906 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:30:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25777 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:30:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOOlQ-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 07:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 13:42:43 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: stupid request References: <336D25AB.72F8@h140.aone.net.au> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN mcl@h140.aone.net.au (Maree Bell): > we would be most grateful if you could forward information on > the above to our college library. student is dean cameron You don't mind giving his address, do you? And before you post a snail mail address - this is an electronic medium, so give an email address, ok?! Yes, I have changed the Subject: line - hopefully showing that this is possible and also that the body of a request should state what the request is all about. HTH. Sven -- It's about time for drivers' licences for the infobahn! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07146 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA25856; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA38358; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:39:02 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08418 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:20 -0700 Received: from students.aurora.edu (students.aurora.edu [192.203.224.5]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA21887 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:38:17 -0700 Received: from localhost by students.aurora.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/13Aug96-0736AM) id AA10345; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:36:04 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 09:36:04 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Lowe To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine and Win95 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Greg Tsigaridas X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greg -- Been there. Done that. Works OK. Right now, I am telnetted to my email system (via EWAN). I can print locally or to a system printer. Also, I have the 32-bit version of PINE operational -- can do printing to both locally attached and system printers. You can contact me via email or land line (630 844 5290). -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu On Mon, 5 May 1997, Greg Tsigaridas wrote: > > Can anybody who is using Windows95 to access Pine (via Telnet, of course) > please get in touch with me! I'm finding it impossible to print messages > and wondering at this point if it's even possible to print using Win95... > > Thanks alot! > > Greg Tsigaridas > gtsigari@lwcunix.lwc.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10571 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01102; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25684; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:46:45 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA54620 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA22586 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:41 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA00878 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:37 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 16:45:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01731; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:28:27 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:28:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Sven Guckes X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >> uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S Socha): >> All _I_ want is better yanking in pico > >Any more features would make pico more complicated and thus it would rule >out pico as a "simple editor". >Therefore - forget it! If you want more then use another editor! I'm being forced to do that, and I don't mind, because I need more features than pico offers. Granted, joe's almost twice as big as pico, but it has the features I need, while IMNSHO maintaining all of pico's ease of use. Granted, too, that vim is *much* better than joe, but I find it utterly cryptic, even compared to emacs (ymmv). It's just not something I would give to inexperienced users, unless they had touched my computer. >:-> However, there is a middle ground between "simple" (one might say patronizingly primitive) and "complicated" a.k.a. badly documented. Joe has a nice help screen that could be customized for pine to reflect all features that are currently available in pico. Furthermore, when run in jpico mode, there are no differences between joe and pico as far as keyboard shortcuts are concerned. Now, if you wanted more features than offered initially, you could still use them, because they would be explained in additional and easily accessible help screens. Simply put: ^J remains ^J, but now does proper yanking of this: >> If you could come up with a Deluxe version of pine that turns into a >> pizza with a large Coke at midnight, everybody would love you. >... and then they will kill you the next day when they find out you've >eaten it. Not too bad, right? >> However, I still cannot quite see where this thread is leading to. >I hear that emacs-20 will have mind-reading and future-telling... >Followup-To: comp.religion.editors If you want to use any flavour of emacs, you have to have been born with these abilities. BTW, comp.religion alone will do. Emacs is, after all, the editor of gods. =8-} Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM23geGe8+XvDOeNZAQFtpgf/WVNcDrSk7+EHjlqWB9kXY8VaFkr+5ZfH 4jUkd8Vdz8BjfAm3FMJR/pGycxwpUgKP7nscSbHVSriRhyUDSFsyt4OQcinKDtMu 0mGWfJqBtRdTuCDZA1rZR1ToPANxJyet8mH/oRrZEujTPGYkwjMn9sa/a7JwOSM8 An9jyL1hIFOVC61JGrkqVyvPUHghKz79fGJOyWJ8yWYIaFDL1xVStqxdF00zxOab L0eI3TI3tlNV4BiYD8xUTy5U9GrHqr5NNFy4z+P+LRtHueoXOpY7ta0O3jMGfVTr jAbg+BJK3Sq4vPl/LnXCh2IU7+weF88fC67Ov3YPiFt3CC6fu/McyA== =Jk7u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA10631 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA01105; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:57:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA25726; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:47:10 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA48998 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:45 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA22590 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:43 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA00880 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 07:45:40 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 16:45:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA01652; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:05:22 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:05:17 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Nodir Turdiev X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Nodir Turdiev wrote: Hi Nodir, >I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via >Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, >picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! Yes, it's possible. No, this is not the right forum for your request. And NO!!!, it's not polite to use aol (c) style syntax in a serious discussion group. Had you read the netiquette, you'd know that... >By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). Definitly not, and the same goes true for all the other freenet.uz guys out there. Just because you've been given pine as your email program doesn't mean that you can spew your requests into this mailing list. It's being read by quite a few people out there, and many of them get a *lot* of emails a day. Unrelated, irrelevant and generally meaningless mails like yours here cause a lot of distress among those people who want to actually help others with, in this case, pine. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM23bD2e8+XvDOeNZAQFwyQgAgVXSkkFbhax8CPmaCUqYvA95cwWt9LCi hxp/xlwXeN0iWnXA36xX2JMTpNUASVbeGgIKFPape5KJnHJbzJHe+nZHBFp+Ajg3 PlLhz207vSNb5hj9u9wmzFXsAwZYxTe+xViWFuPdy2lMqtNTwuWl207NxRIfFJuq dbZC9+vmH1d4P/Sm1Bv5nVYqCE9HwhaenPBIycq01gJnHm/cBGFfORDloY5jiS0T jLG/19xdKzIcaOInxbZcKK8Dkpd3oEXUX+w7NRBd+Rc4bEY6xIh6engDYb5nz8nP 0rCexEBbYq0O35VQPLZ+jqftatnObJNNvyKxHNOIhpMUy0T7DUBEhQ== =C5FY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA10872 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26239; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:06:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA26801; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:03:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA25590 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:02:14 -0700 Received: from noc.ns.itd.umich.edu (noc.ns.itd.umich.edu [192.231.253.42]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA13510 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:02:12 -0700 Received: from loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu (loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu [192.231.253.18]) by noc.ns.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA24973 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (dkoski@localhost) by loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA20425 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Koski To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Authenication problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu: dkoski owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Anyone know why I'm getting this error in syslog? May 5 10:59:00 loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu sendmail[20396]: KAA20396: Authentication-Warning: loompa.ns.itd.umich.edu: dkoski owned process doing -bs It only happens when using pine. Thanks David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ UMNet MichNet CICNet Merit RA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ dkoski@umich.edu Computer Systems Consultant II Spectrum Administration Network Operations Center Unix Administration U of M Information Technology Division From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA11506 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26516; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:16:08 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA54718; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:08:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA45460 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA06626 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:40 -0700 Received: from jewel.morgan.edu (ftrim@jewel.morgan.edu [158.103.13.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26259 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 08:07:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (ftrim@localhost) by jewel.morgan.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA08367 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:07:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:07:35 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Fayola C. Trim" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, Today was the worst day of my life. For the first time in months I was expecting to hear from my brother, who lives in the Caribbean, by E-Mail. Back there it is so costly that he can only afford to login once a week. In any event, I was unable to get his letter because not only did I have to login twice, I also lost ALL my messages. On my first login this so-called new wave of technology stated that I had mail and after telling me that it could not connect me to PINE; upon logging in for the umpteenth time, to my utter dismay, "0 Messages" appeared at the top of my screen. I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. I should have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by buying a stamp in the first place. "New wave of technology my FOOT!!!!" Yours most angrily, Disappointed user. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13179 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA27802; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:08:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA21650; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:01:11 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA35244 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:00:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA29882 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOQ9L-00038hC; Mon, 5 May 97 08:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <3369D417.748C@atmu.cs.siu.edu> Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 06:46:31 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shane Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN root of all evil wrote: > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > : is > : any possibility to: > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > : address (home-address), as a background task... > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > : (even if one is not logged on) > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > : welcome!!! > > yes. with shell scripts, cron jobs, and a .forward file. > type man crontab at yer friendly neighborhood linux prompt to find out > how. i'd try to tell you more, but i'm so braindead tired right now > that i'd probably tell you wrong. > -- > ----- > ~angela > so many people... > so few bullets hey dipshit quit logging in as root! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA13778 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA28424; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:31:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA11304; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:24:49 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA25350 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:26 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA15149 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 09:23:24 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 18:23:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA02431; Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:16 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 17:59:11 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Fayola C. Trim" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , "Daniel W. Moehwald" X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Due to negligence, Fayola C. Trim let this slip into my inbox of terror on Setting Orange, the 52nd day of Discord in the YOLD 3163: > Today was the worst day of my life. So you thought you needed a lot of people share your self-afflicted anger? Get a life... Your mail was insultive, utterly meaningless and didn't apparently have *any*thing to do with pine whatsoever... [snipped some ridiculous nonsense about some third world island] >In any event, I was unable to get his letter because not only did I have >to login twice, Why? Doesn't happen unless enforced by user [you] >I also lost ALL my messages. Impossible unless caused by user [you] >On my first login this so-called new wave of technology stated that I had >mail and after telling me that it could not connect me to PINE; Why? Either it's there or it isn't. If it isn't there it isn't there. So it's not a pine problem you're whining about. >upon logging in for the umpteenth time, Why? c.f. above... [you] >to my utter dismay, "0 Messages" appeared at the top of my screen. Impossible, unless you manually deleted them [you] > I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. Did anyone force you to do that? Don't think so... [you] >I should have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by >buying a stamp in the first place. No. Should have taken your mouse chord and hung yourself. As an alternative, you might consider learning the basics of using a computer. All the symptoms you described can be traced back to *utter*, *total*, *criminal* ignorance on your behalf. How about this: Get a gun, shoot yourself and try whining that it didn't tell you bullets are lethal afterwards. A computer is a tool, not a toy (though MS sometimes leads one to believe people wish it were). >"New wave of technology my FOOT!!!!" Why don't you do it yourself? Can you not even do that on your own? >Yours most angrily, Whiner. >Disappointed user. Luser. You're running pine on a local SGI --- anyone important enough to gain access to such a machine should have enough common sense to Read The F* Manual before he starts insulting people that devote their time and energy to offer a marvellous little program for free. Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing Write a better mailer (if you can use it, it can be considered idiot--proof) and make the world a lot happier. Otherwise go [censored] yourself. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM24D0Ge8+XvDOeNZAQF4qwf9HNA1o9dY6PsqgpBjxk+bl1AQ5u6Vu6oR IQ0xB7yKW+f3UGkrVopbxdDBRvrPjddewRGXisoYzZ1UWpq+0QQchvz4Y7pkFgyf CCar1YxOs/FJNTQuLu+wfpYVJamo14eCWVj8udcUa5v7G84sCPQ0kdYgS1npNY1+ aI5KmhIs5LOdCHyblxBDBuQ94WsFwkmnOIAIqFxzjhpMdFaBC4y6S8iH7NmESOCD c1bG2GZmUwmWQrr6V1AUKkBWWTV+PPiLwJsJArCR4Zwb/zBRIhkLHb47ZKwfuq08 G0tM0epFa00lsz2/HCIPvv+Jr6EP3f4k6h8+HhnzgfXoBtfy13kR9Q== =X6tp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07856 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA29686; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:13:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA13430; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:47 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA56464 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:16 -0700 Received: from XRAY.BMC.UU.SE (XRAY.bmc.uu.se [130.238.37.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA07663 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:07:14 -0700 Received: from alfasud.bmc.uu.se by XRAY.BMC.UU.SE with SMTP; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:39:10 +0300 (MET-DST) Received: by alfasud.bmc.uu.se; id AA17731; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:07:10 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:07:10 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: John Marelius To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-pine for WinNT 4.0 on DEC Alpha? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: john@alfasud.bmc.uu.se X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone compiled PC-Pine for WindowsNT on the DEC Alpha platform? If so, I'd appreciate to get a copy of the executable. If not, I'd be willing to try. Is the source code publicly available? (It wasn't in the PC-Pine for Win32 package.) regards John Marelius +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Marelius | | Dept. of Molecular Biology, Uppsala University | | E-mail: john@xray.bmc.uu.se | | www: http://www.ibg.uu.se/~john | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA12046 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA04757; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:17:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA50906; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:12:02 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49300 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:10:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA20493 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 10:10:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOREO-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 10:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 5 May 1997 17:06:25 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@cauchy.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN nturdiev@uwed.freenet.uz (Nodir Turdiev): > I have just found out that it is possible to take info from INTERNET via > Email. However, I do not know whether it is possible to access sound, > picture, actions, etc. or not. Do you have any idea about that? REPLY!!! > By the way send http, ftp addresses(cool stuff!). Data for email has to be encoded and decoded - you don't want that. If you want WWW then get a WWW browser and install it. And please give your messages a meaningful Subject: line - "Untitled" is not very descriptive. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA16578 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA02067; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:39:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA13572; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:34:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25810 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA00308 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:56 -0700 Received: from nicon.nicon.org (roberts@nicon.nicon.org [207.53.163.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA01862 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (roberts@localhost) by nicon.nicon.org (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA06380 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:51 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 11:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Sylvester To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: eXport files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having difficulty setting up my Pine account to download eXported files to my computer. If someone can help me with this problem I would greatly appreciate it. Bob Sylvester From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA13489 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA08253; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:32:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA67086; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:25:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA46890 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:23:48 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA06207 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 12:23:45 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 May 97 21:23:29 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA03210; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:45:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 20:45:00 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: eXport files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Sylvester X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Robert Sylvester wrote: >I am having difficulty setting up my Pine account to download >eXported files to my computer. If someone can help me with this >problem I would greatly appreciate it. Ok, let's see... You probably mean upload from your account or download to your local system, not ftp'ing files you've exported to your remote home dir, right? Then this should help: -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ download-command This option affects the behavior of the Export command. It specifies a Unix program name, and any necessary command line arguments, that Pine can use to transfer the exported message to your personal computer's disk. download-command-prefix This option is used in conjunction with the Download-command option. It defines text to be written to the terminal emulator (via standard output) immediately prior to starting the download command. This is useful for integrated serial line file transfer agents that permit command passing (e.g., Kermit's APC method). -------------8<--------- snip here -----8<------------------ If that doesn't help, come back with the tech-spex of your two systems, that might make helping you a little easier .-) Later, Robin P.S. Yes, this stuff is from the FAQ >:-> - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM24qrme8+XvDOeNZAQGfGgf/SIWNfH54pJU/C2qsTy9vkjZwhu3DZ/MG UAXfQP9ETLz5utMcXfUBOQ7GDsTHW25guYN5vJDt2jaL1KZLLmqgW+0KW9jYzQNB 8eIwVZdntc08DCFd4ybAcUJna9r5VLaxS/6klJM7o9B0ejhlWJl/bpZ5NZNHDYMt AvByYELARqfnGWWnnmJtuTZV7e/8d/P/Mm/64WfqBiSQH3wNT8GMjpdCfjYMMOzL EkDuNOR9znJXvzwKweRFV2oodtyAQvZdyYgb2qtzaVE8i3ds98n6X/F0t0lEnPq7 65CEtE+j1U6RTx9HrwkM0cE60+SUz8is9j4v2Vs1PlN1Zfc5vvjqXA== =UgvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18655 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04461; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:22:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA56432; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:17:13 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA36486 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18542 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:03 -0700 Received: from garfield.wsc.mass.edu (garfield.wsc.mass.edu [134.241.56.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04324 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:16:01 -0700 Received: from garfield.wsc.mass.edu (larry@localhost) by garfield.wsc.mass.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA31541; Mon, 5 May 1997 16:15:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199705052015.QAA31541@garfield.wsc.mass.edu> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 16:15:59 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Larry Griffith To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Configuring locking on Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: larry@garfield.wsc.mass.edu X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0gamma 1/27/96 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Pine experts, I run a network of DEC 3000's running DU v4.0. My users have had persistent problems with Pine, which frequently spends 10 minutes or more trying to write "Fcc". It appears that the problem has to do with file locking as I get many lock files created in a very short interval of time in affected user directories relative to "sent-mail" and "interrupted-mail" (the latter probably due to frustrated users). The user directories are NFS-distributed (this is a college); /var/spool/mail is NOT NFS-distributed. Call #1 to DEC Support (late February) revealed a patch for lockd in version 4.0 . I installed it; the problem persists and in fact is now getting worse. In desperation I called again; DEC Support suggested that pine and procmail (which was installed very recently) should have lockf locking enabled to handle NFS (I'm not an expert on file locking mechanisms and I wouldn't have trusted myself to choose one). procmail seems to be doing this anyways, but I reconfigured to force lockf: no help. For the life of me, I can't find any way to configure Pine to use lockf or indeed any particular locking mechanism. We are using Pine v3.96. Any suggestions? Am I barking up the wrong tree? Can Pine be made to use lockf? Help, my mail box was loaded with student complaints this morning! Larry ============================================================================ Larry Griffith Dept. of Computer & Info Science larry@garfield.wsc.mass.edu Westfield State College (413) 572-5294 Westfield, MA 01086 USA PGP public key available at: http://garfield.wsc.mass.edu/dcis/griffith.html ============================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18709 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09443; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:26:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA20938; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:21:29 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA05488 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:21:00 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA12223 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 13:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOUBn-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 13:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336E4058.33D@news.alt.hacking> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 13:17:28 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hawthorn {¥} To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN root of all evil wrote: > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > : is > : any possibility to: > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > : address (home-address), as a background task... > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > : (even if one is not logged on) > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > : welcome!!! I'm new to Unix, but if you have access to the mail file. Rename the file on your server. Rename on target computer, FTP to yourself, rename back to mail. Would that not count as untracable EMAIL forwarding?? If the above worked. You could always cut out what you wanted and put the file back. Let me know if this works or not. ------------------------------------------------------------- I hack for the pleasure of expanding my mind, to test my-self against high paid, so called computer gurus. I actually make my living testing computer security products. What I am trying to say is that if I hack your program, it is not personal. It’s not malicious, I am just better than you. ;} Hawthorn {¥} ‘97 P.S. All you little eLiTe 15 YeAr OlD wHoLoGuNs. Better knock that stupid writing off before sending me anything or you won’t get a damn thing back from me. You can Contact me in the newsgroup ALT.HACKING SUBJECT: -- TO: HAWTHORN -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA22520 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA08096; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:45:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA02952; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA16826 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA04986 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 15:41:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOWNz-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 15:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 18:36:10 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine filter sorta? In-Reply-To: <5kkqd1$s3c$1@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> References: <5kkqd1$s3c$1@gamera.cbl.cees.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 5 May 1997, Fleet Teachout wrote: > In PINE, one can use the command(?) ;ttas folder> to sort incoming mail to a folder. Have you tried it? If not, why are you asking before trying it out? > Is there a way to run a file > with a number of these commands in it on activation of Pine? Not that I have ever heard of, but there may be things others know that I don't > If there is > a way, [...] The rest is a little academic. However, this seems like the long way around to filter incoming mail. You posted with tin, so I am presuming that you are talking about Pine running under a flavor of Un*x. In that case, there are specialized tools, such as procmail and filter, which will do just what you want without a lot of gyrations Pine may not even be able to perform. After all, sorting incoming mail is part of the mail delivery process, and Pine is not designed or intended to be part of that process. procmail and filter, however, are. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA24572 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA11077; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:16:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA43440; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:14:18 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA34860 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:13:02 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA28434 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:13:00 -0700 Received: from endeavor.flash.net (endeavor.flash.net [208.194.223.40]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA15942 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 18:12:57 -0700 Received: from donathan.flash.net (ipm2-72.flash.net [209.30.30.72]) by endeavor.flash.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA09345; Mon, 5 May 1997 20:08:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <336E8413.4290@flash.net> Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 20:06:27 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Franklin Donathan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: uudecode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Donathan@flash.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01KIT (Win95; U) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.06/msg00153.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sir, I have recieved a message encoded. On this message it says I need to use uudecode. Could you please help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA25458 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:15:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA16717; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:14:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA39074; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:12:41 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA43942 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:11:52 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA08822 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:11:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZhY-00038gC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 10:06:52 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hynek Med To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine and APOP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Will pine support APOP, or other system that doesn't send plaintext passwords and uses encryption? Hynek -- Hynek Med, xmedh02@manes.vse.cz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA25401 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA11999; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:19:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA05595; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:17:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA31404 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:53 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA22473 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZlG-00038fC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5kls46$2hi@due.unit.no> Date: 5 May 1997 23:56:54 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FCC behaviour. References: <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, wrote: > >But how to I get incoming mail from q230948 when I hit s to save >to go to John? >From the unix command line: cd ~/mail ln john q230948 to give the same file duplicate names. It works very well with my mailing list folders. A little extra noise in the folder listing, though. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24843 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12018; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:21:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA14660; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:17:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA31426 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:56 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17275 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZmB-00038gC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:25:33 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > > Let Vi automatically wrap the lines for you! > Just set the "wrapmargin"! > > Example: > > :set wrapmargin=8 > > [ ... ] > > With the Vi clone "Vim" (Vi IMProved") you can set the maximum width with > > :set textwidth=72 Does anyone know if there is a Windows 95 vi or vi clone that has something analagous to pico's ^J to justify an already-written paragraph? I know that in Unix vi you can send a paragraph through fmt but I'm wondering how to do this type of thing in the Windows 95 world. Thanks much, Nancy -- / .-. / / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com/ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA24526 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12029; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:22:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA14719; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:18:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA39906 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:58 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA02793 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 19:16:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOZmy-00038hC; Mon, 5 May 97 19:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:50:45 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Edit subject on received mail? In-Reply-To: References: <5kg270$o5f$1@nnrp1.crl.com> <5khcdq$co7$1@nnrp1.crl.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The guidelines that people just gave should work for Berkeley format mail folders BUT there are many folder formats that include information about the size of each message. If your folder is in one of these formats then editing the subject will trash the folder (unless your new subject happens to be the same size as the old subject). Note that the PC-Pine folder format includes info on message size. Good luck, Nancy -- / .-. / / \ .-. .-. / / \ / \ .-. _ .-. / \ / /Nancy McGough--Infinite Ink/---\---/-\---/---\http://www.ii.com/ \ / \ / `-' `-' \ / \ / \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA27362 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15010; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:52:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA23652; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:50:10 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA54654 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:49:54 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA00646 for ; Mon, 5 May 1997 22:49:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 07:49:37 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA31277; Tue, 6 May 1997 06:54:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:54:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: uudecode In-Reply-To: <336E8413.4290@flash.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Franklin Donathan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 5 May 1997, Franklin Donathan wrote: > I have recieved a message encoded. On this message it says I >need to use uudecode. Could you please help. Sure. Quit using an outdated version of Netrape and Dos95 or write to one of their lists, then get yourself a cope of uudecode from yahoo , say uudecode , kick the file into a fitting application (.doc to Word or something), done. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM265ame8+XvDOeNZAQGzDgf+NpgxFZh8mktaq2/cF80Fqt8pcvegKcUc 2B7PU2/4sIq4bvqH1mGRi/erb4v+smXXIGD2M9eaTc8Ot7oXZ3ZEk0K1pMAh3S62 2aT5fiOvfVMOBM+Si46mHwhNXrhCdIZfH8h+uP99Fj5QMbTAjqhJdbQxuZuW/OqM y0ZCVKn4KEhfuQ5B4CYHmxNxwGNdMwtjSbm1M986GQFrQ8VXlWzHcrVyTlFWVmoK 4Sj7OLUkVhyhBrQE3rWTm+QyXZOdUxVRB8B5DMf7HzeiFu2ztbq+s6jMn0VSL9B/ /8QZvrJc6mgm8/hH8WG9opunQiDGZ+moTP1H8Wuorv5fP7e6/cf5Xg== =VeZ0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28445 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA21617; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:14:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA20122; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:08:12 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA20092 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00105 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 01:07:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOfHD-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 01:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336F6B62.F0621F7B@consonet.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 10:33:22 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shai Peretz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine/Pico for Irix 6.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does antbody know of PINE/PICO binaries for Irix 6.2? Thanks, Shai. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00288 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA27203; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:11:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA16190; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:05:08 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA02488 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12757 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOlhy-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 07:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:16:19 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: MELISSA CHURCH To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Recieving Mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have recently logged onto a unix server at uni. It is running pine 3.93 under unix (ibm) and i am not recieving mail. I have tried sending mail to my account from my home address and it just isn't getting through. I can however send mail from pine. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening. Thanx in advance. Mel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00538 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22314; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:12:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA13278; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:04:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA56570 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:19 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA02621 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:16 -0700 Received: from oit.duke.edu (root@cicero.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA26996 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:03:13 -0700 Received: from panther.oit.duke.edu (mario@panther.oit.duke.edu [152.3.202.185]) by oit.duke.edu (8.8.5/Duke-4.3.4) with ESMTP id LAA14029; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (mario@localhost) by panther.oit.duke.edu (8.8.4/Duke-4.1) with SMTP id LAA09689; Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 11:03:06 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mario@oit.duke.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mario L. Gonzales" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug in Pine 3.96? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi folks -- Every night pine 3.96 dumps core at 00:45. I cannot figure out what is causing it -- Could my cron that cleans /tmp be causing the problem? mario@panther:/duac/home/mario> gdb -c core GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.16 (sparc-sun-solaris2.5), Copyright 1996 Free Software Foundation, Inc. Core was generated by `/duac/home/mario/bin/pine'. Program terminated with signal 6, Aborted. #0 0xef674340 in ?? () (gdb) I would do more debugging, but I am not a guru at gdb. My question really is -- who is sending the signal 6, Abort? pine itself? Anyway -- thanks. Mario --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Systems Administration Group, O.I.T. phone://919.660.7037/ | Duke University, 412 North Building fax://919.660.7029/ | Durham, NC 27708 mailto:mario@oit.duke.edu | http://www.oit.duke.edu/~mario/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY: "finger -m mario@acpub.duke.edu | pgp -fka" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA01466 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22879; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:39:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA14954; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:32:08 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA49214 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:30:36 -0700 Received: from eagle.ais.net (rwilshe@eagle.ais.net [199.0.154.5]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00834 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 08:30:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by eagle.ais.net (8.8.5/AIS) with SMTP id KAA04018; Tue, 6 May 1997 10:29:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 10:29:02 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robert J. Wilshe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Recieving Mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: MELISSA CHURCH X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Melissa: If you get this message :) the best place to start asking questions is with your school's help desk or system administrator. There are several things or reasons that could account for this, and as far as *we* can see, Pine is working fine. I'd ask them if everything is configured right on your system, if you're using the right address, and detail the problems you're having to them. That's probably your best bet to start off with. Good luck, \\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\ robert chicago illinois joseph u s a wilshe rwilshe @ ais.net //\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\//\\// On Tue, 6 May 1997, MELISSA CHURCH wrote: > > Hi, > I have recently logged onto a unix server at uni. It is running pine > 3.93 under unix (ibm) and i am not recieving mail. I have tried sending > mail to my account from my home address and it just isn't getting through. > I can however send mail from pine. Does anyone have any ideas as to why > this is happening. > > Thanx in advance. > Mel > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA21941 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA29168; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:30:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA19133; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:52 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA35198 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:27 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA29012 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 09:23:23 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 18:23:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA32242; Tue, 6 May 1997 18:03:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:03:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.96? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mario L. Gonzales" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 6 May 1997, Mario L. Gonzales wrote: >Every night pine 3.96 dumps core at 00:45. I cannot figure out >what is causing it -- Voodoo? Hehehe... >Could my cron that cleans /tmp be causing the problem? Unless pine doesn't lock its files properly: no. ...however ... >:-> Pruning /tmp with a cron job might not be the best of ideas, anyway. Either do it manually, or do it on startup. Properly programmed apps clean their tmp files, anyway. Since it it's "your" cron job (i.e. you're the supervisor), you might as well consider using a local tmp file. Furthermore, you'd best use LSEW (low space early warning) in your cron job, thereby rendering the cron prune superfluous. After all, it really doesn't matter how big your /tmp dir is, as long as it doesn't affect the system performance. Amen, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM29WNme8+XvDOeNZAQGUkgf+O9PO+6+PM30YqlMsogrgkfW+FZTaKFmW All3fJ08eiEIbbkiShlfsCBWzJLOJkBoRXl0ycvqF4lM1tZE2tx5KEMGrmiJwJAg cJ0JUflcg7m/mT5iBz2dZS+Opte9Tq7hauq/zsPZSHCic4Di+iYXjcIgtLCVzIVq TS6+HAq7ml7puFobjvvOdtpzWNxF29mRXH2xCdEQe9Y/IuLBkEm69Ya/r167gEZN lng8yH4lqAHLxvr4005SFNcJsmF+pvh0mnDkIMkD8sAGh8vWDxQ2weyxwmjKMqDv dpDLV1imzda7yCoOs+SH3IVemAayVqPYR0Pyvd74Ij0IDleeSGUnGQ== =msY1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07096 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA28455; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:25:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA00496; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:19:35 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA36444 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA26238 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:37 -0700 Received: from danta.qualcomm.com (danta.qualcomm.com [129.46.152.203]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA28291 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:17:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (svadakke@localhost) by danta.qualcomm.com (8.8.5/1.4/8.7.2/1.13) with SMTP id MAA20036 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:16:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 12:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sameer Vadakke-Kuruppath To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re-opening INBOX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi: Is there any way to re-open the INBOX after another pine process was started? I understand that the default is for the Mailbox lock to be owned by the latest process. If that process no longer exists, can an earlier process regain the lock? I'm not sure if pine-info is a mailing list, hence please send replies to sameer@qualcomm.com. TIA Sameer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07606 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA04002; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:37:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA01670; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:31:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA51660 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:30:13 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA02485 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:30:03 -0700 Received: from pm-nb5-166.coastalnet.com (pm-nb5-166.coastalnet.com [204.183.41.166]) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA27090 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:28:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <336FB0BD.3C9F@coastalnet.com> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:29:17 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sent-Mail problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; U) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00003.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I too am getting message upon entering pine asking if I want to move sent-mail to sent-mail.apr.save. Happens everytime I enter pine. Is this a bug rearing it's ugly head or normal? Do not remember it happening before. Any help would be appreciated. Thx Joe Young New Bern, NC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA07469 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA04090; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:40:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA00236; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:34:16 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA50424 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:33:56 -0700 Received: from stl1.lcmsois.org (stl1.lcmsois.org [207.92.237.3]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA27876 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:33:55 -0700 Received: from wahlerlr.STLDOMAIN (207.92.237.114) by lcms.org (PMDF V5.0-7 #20818) id <01IIJWPLV2QO90NIAY@lcms.org>; Tue, 06 May 1997 14:33:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:33:42 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Larry Wahlers To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Won't add folders or write fcc MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Larry Wahlers X-X-Sender: wahlers@stl1.lcms.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN PC Pine-32 under NT Workstation 4.0, using PMDF IMAP server on VAX/VMS system, when sending mail, says it's writing fcc to NEWMAIL folder, but it doesn't ever get there! Also, when adding a new folder in the Folder List screen, it appears, but no message is inside. Previously, I remember that it would put the standard IMAP placeholder message there. Any ideas? Larry Wahlers Postmaster and email administrator The International Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA08129 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04565; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:02:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA40144; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:56:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA37170 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:56:07 -0700 Received: from abaco.coastalnet.com (abaco.coastalnet.com [204.183.40.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA05775 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 12:55:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (joey@localhost) by abaco.coastalnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA29448 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joe Young To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sent-Mail problem (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To answer one's own question may help other's in the case below. Found in the file .pinerc a setting concerning the pruning of the sent-mail and it was set to 97-4, so every time I entered pine it tried to save sent-mail in another location. Permissions on the .pinerc would not allow me, as a ordinary user to edit file. Make sure that the .pinerc file is owned by you so that you can enter setup and make necessary and usefull changes. Luckily having su I could correct error in permissions otherwise would have to contact my sysadm ..... Hope this helps anyone with same condition. Joe Young New Bern, NC ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 15:29:17 -0700 From: Joe Young To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sent-Mail problem I too am getting message upon entering pine asking if I want to move sent-mail to sent-mail.apr.save. Happens everytime I enter pine. Is this a bug rearing it's ugly head or normal? Do not remember it happening before. Any help would be appreciated. Thx Joe Young New Bern, NC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:47:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09025 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:46:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA00341; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:46:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA04257; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA55242 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:22 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA04964 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:19 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA05348 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:36:16 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 06 May 97 22:36:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA00527 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 22:19:03 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 22:18:58 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: tab in folder-collections MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi there, Correct me if I'm wrong, but is there really no way to move through folder collections via the tab key? If so, is there any reason for that? I use a primitive means of checking whether new mail has arrived from certain lists (i.e. procmail them into an own folder-collection and delete afterwards to see if new mail has arrived in any of them), but the "feature" of jumping to the last unread message in that folder doesn't make moving there any easier .-) I'd be grateful if anyone could come up with a hint what to do. TIA, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Lecturer: Who isn't in class today? Student: Moby Dick and George Washington. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM2+SM2e8+XvDOeNZAQFkgwgArU/Bzv/E05HRFm/pblAX1qKpbHhB2trg Uc0fW+pNi5MZqK3bEx913O5BOlw6QRr01lAzB+/dB9bfONDJWF16lVty7Tg4ubuB tVBulPKrbCBhwT8aoE/iwWM52IhQi94tRs8Z21F8Y9fmNgbEwBlRCSBfmofWMRUs sO6o0rcKx+rC9DtalH2lU+InQzTViHz6KJJEqzRyDRllfsug84l7ArkzoalacoRI 1ZBKBbkZE+TNhx6wj/tlKgDQtGJRWza+hfc4uiH92xmK190Ln2KOCyaciITE0d5z q8+67UcG81ZS4SrOvWszJLdu8RnyNm4EoC09q2rRS76la8ipgbDu4Q== =7JdR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA02768 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA00888; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:04:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA06508; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA38294 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:37 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA28994 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:36 -0700 Received: from elwood.pionet.net (ELWOOD.pionet.net [199.120.116.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA05843 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 13:57:33 -0700 Received: from default (s3_osceola.pionet.net [207.51.169.103]) by elwood.pionet.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA22457 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:00:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199705062100.QAA22457@elwood.pionet.net> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 16:00:20 -0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "smokless" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how to find a forwarding address for jason casazza who previously lived in woodbridge va MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA09898 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA06646; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:23:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA07658; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:18:14 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA44318 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA01530 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:46 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu (root@franc.ucdavis.edu [128.120.8.183]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA01248 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:43 -0700 Received: from hslpub7 by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.8.5/UCD3.8.9) id OAA21882; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <336FA1F5.1E10@ucdavis.edu> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 14:26:13 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: HSSPUB7 To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: what;s up MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- 's Bookmarks

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Sexy gorlfriend From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA09714 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA07166; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:46:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA08988; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:40:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA37114 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:39:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA03973 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 14:39:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOrts-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 14:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 14:30:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kevin Eliuk To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Validating newsgroups In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 3 May 1997, Shay Cohen wrote: HI, You can turn this off in configuration. Just Whereis 'validate' in config :) >Hello, > > Whenever I try to compose an article in usenet, pine insists on >"validating newsgroups", a process which consumes time. > Can I avoid going thru that process, and have pine let me send the >article right away after asking for a compose? > > Please e-mail me if possible, as my newsserver is not very stable. > >Shay, >shiart@inter.net.il. > > > _______________________________________ |\ /| If I hadn't asked | \ kevin_eliuk@sunshine.net / | the questions I asked, | \ Kevin G. Eliuk / | I wouldn't be answering | /^\_________________________/^\ | the questions I'm answering. | / \ | |/--===### Powered By FreeBSD 2.2.1 \| | www.freebsd.org | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA12264 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA08813; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:59:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA12799; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:55:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA54346 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:55:04 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA25376 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 15:54:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOt53-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 15:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 15:26:45 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David T Ho To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Netscape ate my mail! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I usually read my mail with Pine. However, the other day, I accidentally clicked the mailbox icon in Netscape and my my >200 messages were read by Netscape. Is there any easy way I could get read those messages in Pine again? Thanks for any help. -Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA12566 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA03991; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:21:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA13711; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28868 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:05 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27751 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:18:03 -0700 Received: from cariari.ucr.ac.cr (cariari.ucr.ac.cr [163.178.101.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA09209 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 16:17:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (borozco@localhost) by cariari.ucr.ac.cr (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id XAA42946 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 23:17:40 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 17:17:40 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Julio Bejarano Orozco To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID 2028X): In-Reply-To: <199705062306.QAA11943@groupfs.cac.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14057 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA05580; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:43:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA18411; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA67154 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:09 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA13370 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOulB-00038fC; Tue, 6 May 97 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5klf4m$fpe@news1.radix.net> Date: 5 May 1997 20:15:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: xcitor@radix.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Disappointed User (No wonder the service is FREE!) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In article , ftrim@Morgan.EDU ("Fayola C. Trim") writes: > To whom it may concern, > have to login twice, I also lost ALL my messages. On my first login this Somehow, I doubt that pine had anything to do with losing ALL your mail. Does the phrase "the loose nut behind the bolt" mean anything to you? Think about it. > I am regretting ever succumbing to this piece of rubbish. I should > have gone with my every instinct and supported the USPS by buying a stamp > in the first place. I am regretting your ever having used it, too. I hereby forbid you to never use the Internet again. Take all your computer equipment and throw it in the water. -- Before sending unsolicited e-mail to this account, please read the following: . Any such mail received will be subject to a download and archival fee of US$ 500 per message. Sending of e-mail denotes acceptance of these terms. PGP Fingerprint = 32 F9 EC F2 86 73 27 12 76 A7 0E 9D 0A F8 17 70 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14137 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA05583; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:44:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA18193; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:44 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA67170 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:11 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21246 for ; Tue, 6 May 1997 17:40:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wOulJ-00038gC; Tue, 6 May 97 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5klfqp$buu$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: 5 May 1997 20:27:05 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: FCC behaviour. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok,if I have mail from q230948@host.onramp.com, I obviously want something easier to remember. Maybe John. Pine lets me do this. I can set up a nickname for john, and it will fill the ithe address with John's real address. And I can set it up so that any outgoing mail to John goes into FCC folder john. But how to I get incoming mail from q230948 when I hit s to save to go to John? -- Sherwood Botsford | email avatar@vega.math.ualberta.ca Sorcerers Apprentice | Office CAB 642B System Administrator | Tel: 403 492 5728 Trouble shooter | Fax: 403 492 6826 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA18405 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA14266; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:42:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA10242; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:50 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA51642 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA28170 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:09 -0700 Received: from ultra3.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (ultra3.RZ.Uni-Hohenheim.DE [144.41.13.52]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA14232 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 04:39:05 -0700 Received: from rs55.ws1.uni-hohenheim.de (rs55.ws1.Uni-Hohenheim.DE [144.41.249.15]) by ultra3.rz.uni-hohenheim.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA25017 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 13:39:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:38:32 +0200 (MESZ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elisabeth Niggemeyer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to stop a mail from a user, who repeats his mail since several , days MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: niggemey@rs55.ws1.uni-hohenheim.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am really unhappy to get a mail from s.b., who repeats his mail several times a day (automatically ?) . Is there any possibility to say to the system, that I don't want to get mails from certain persons? Kind regards Herzliche Gruesse --------------------------------------------------------------------- Elisabeth Niggemeyer Universitaet Hohenheim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA23390 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA17840; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:29:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA19127; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:38 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA54296 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:06 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA25389 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:22:04 -0700 Received: from deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (deborah.buckscol.ac.uk [192.149.238.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22944 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 08:21:59 -0700 Received: (from yhodso01@localhost) by deborah.buckscol.ac.uk (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA00103; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:16 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 16:23:15 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Yvonne.Hodson" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Folder as a bulletin board MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: yhodso01@deborah X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We are using Pine 3.91 on SunOS4.1.3 I am trying to set up a folder to be used as a bulletin board for all our staff to read. I have set up the message as a file named 1 in directory /home/var/spool/news/staff readonly by anyone, and I can read this successfully as an additional incoming folder, but obviously can't delete or eXpunge it, as it is read only, so I get it every pine session. When I precede the folder name with a * to indicate treat it as a bulletin board I get the message Can't open mailbox, no such bboard I have also tried to set this up as a local news collection. news-collections=*[] news-spool-dir=/home/var/spool/news I have a file /usr/lib/news/active which lists /home/var/spool/news/staff When I try to read the news with this setup, I get an empty list message, and have no lists to subscribe to. I have searched through the context-sensitive help, the technical guide, the Faq, etc., and can't find anything else to do. Please can anyone tell me what I have missed, or done wrong. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA25979 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA27268; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:10:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA00222; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:03:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA65108 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:02:21 -0700 Received: from fierro.frsf.utn.edu.ar (gceresol@utnrsf.arcride.edu.ar [200.9.237.42]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA13769 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 11:01:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (gceresol@localhost) by fierro.frsf.utn.edu.ar (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA27351 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:28 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:28 -0300 (ARST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gustavo Ceresoli To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mails to Eudora MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please, I would need to know if there is anyone who knows how to open the mails that are within the folders of the pine in Eudora (since it only picks the ones in the inbox and ignore the rest). Thanks a lot.k From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:33:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA31019 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:32:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA27068; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:32:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA13036; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:26:12 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA47816 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:23:12 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA13531 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 14:23:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPEAQ-00038gC; Wed, 7 May 97 14:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 08:10:10 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: line wrap in message viewer In-Reply-To: <5kotao$sht@insosf1.netins.net> References: <5kotao$sht@insosf1.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 May 1997, Jim Schneider wrote: > I would like to find a way to stop Pine from breaking 80+ character lines > on display of the message. I could live with breaking the line if 81 or > more, but the best bet is to just show the first 80 and scroll right for > the rest. Then it would need to be a user option. I detest horizontal scrolling about as much as I detest the clods who write overlength lines in the first place. (A lot of them are probably using kiddy toys like Nut$crape and don't even realize what they're doing.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA32124 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA03070; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:12:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA18973; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:47 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA38786 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:22 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA24683 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 15:07:20 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 00:07:04 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA32654; Wed, 7 May 1997 19:22:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:22:15 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to stop a mail from a user, who repeats his mail since several , days In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Elisabeth Niggemeyer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 7 May 1997, Elisabeth Niggemeyer wrote: >I am really unhappy to get a mail from s.b., who repeats his mail several >times a day (automatically ?) . >Is there any possibility to say to the system, that I don't want to get >mails from certain persons? Three things to do. 1. Try to talk to that person. 2. Talk to his postmaster if that fails, so he can void the account. 3. Use a filtering system to get rid of the mail and, possibly, retaliate. A good system is procmail. Check Nancy McGough's filtering faq for further info. Later, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3C6SGe8+XvDOeNZAQExhQf+KP4ikRSKjKH0RaGZYxvEQFOswy/Am8yd 68UBB/luCJKxmm3whjuPdUUXnDl727GHZjmQ7bGY4X/FWVfUspzelkohSPHPltsW ZkitA4K5sdq0olEbZy8x9fn62Z2EqBe1sRfjYXIpk8LCuyRvsn5gh1pYxAzMimiS NfvU6pIsMtGMY6fCjAXfwkk3R4t4SSqfA9EQkWZbKWoLS7tEl76u7nfI//mWX760 rMQTf8WT1ye6gsgADGOuEEt5rL18Bj0+AEB9PmfokDYwpsTIDYsL4UltFwdp/boQ HIR+5agsk1GC09DHMN7mPAh7L32k50dKP2vaegs4OjysB3X38+KaGQ== =4GH5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA00823 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29729; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:34:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA20816; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA43710 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:20 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA14446 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:28:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPG5G-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 16:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 13:06:56 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul Tomsic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Configuration for News in pine help?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When reading newsgrps in Pine, is it possible to configure it so that it will group replies into one area, such as 'tin' does? As it is currently, I can't seem to get it to do this. Thanks Paul Tomsic From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28937 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29770; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:35:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA20918; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:31:13 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA38944 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA27648 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:48 -0700 Received: from niuhep.physics.niu.edu (niuhep.physics.niu.edu [131.156.85.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA29617 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 16:30:45 -0700 Received: by niuhep.physics.niu.edu (MX V4.2 AXP) id 17; Wed, 07 May 1997 18:32:59 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Message-Id: <009B3E9D.8D353801.17@niuhep.physics.niu.edu> Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 18:32:58 CST6CDT5,M4.1.0,M10.5.0 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sirotenko@niuhep.physics.niu.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: 8-bit mail, it's length and base64 encoding X-To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN NIU, 7-MAY-1997 Hi, I'm sending 8-bit ASCII file (KOI-8 chatacters) with PINE 3.96 and do not want text to be encoded. I have all features like "8-bit .." enable and inclide ASCII text in a mail body using ^R command. Everything is ok for rather small messages, I do not have any encoding and everything is ok. But when I send rather large text, PINE automatically BASE64 encode it. Can I avaid such an encoding? Thanks. Vladimir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02040 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA06174; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:36:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27496; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:31:39 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA40812 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:23 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00319 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA06057 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:30:15 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07255; Wed, 7 May 97 17:29:08 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25564; Wed, 7 May 97 17:28:59 PDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 17:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine with Microsoft Exchange Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hopefully, someone will know the answer to the following problems: A bunch of us here at work are using Pine (v3.95) on SunOS 4.1.4. Other people here at work are using Microsoft Exchange for their email. When people on Microsoft Exchange send email to us Pine users, we get this WINMAIL.DAT uudecoded text at the bottom of each email. Also a server id is embedded in the email address in the "From:" field in the header. We Pine users cannot respond directly to these Microsoft Exchange users because the email bounces unless we remove the server id. For example, if I was a Microsoft Exchange user, my id would appear as follows to Pine users: sf3@po1.ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM ^^^ The "po1" is some sort of server id. Yet another group of people use Sun's "mailtool" for their email. Users of "mailtool" do not get the WINMAIL.DAT text at the bottom of their emails, nor do they get the server id in the header and they *can* respond directly to the email. Questions: 1) Is there a way to suppress the inclusion of the WINMAIL.DAT text at the bottom of the email? 2) Is there a reason why the server id is being embedded in the email address? 3) Is there a way to respond to Microsoft Exchange users without having to edit the email address everytime? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!! ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01612 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01321; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:42:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27793; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:39:03 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA20528 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA01047 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPHC5-00038gC; Wed, 7 May 97 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 14:16:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-Pine Deletes Temporary File Before Spawning Viewer Application Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Under Windows95, PC-Pine will spawn a viewer application for an attachment if a MAILCAP file is defined. This seems to work correctly when the sample MAILCAP file is used and the attachment is MIME type, Application/msword. (Well, it works if you overlook the fact that Word for Windows 6.0 can't open a file in the IM-123456.xxx format used for temporary files.) If you add another MIME type such as Application/WordPerfect5.1, PC-Pine does decode the Base64 attachment. It creates the temporary file. It spawns the designated application but unfortunately deletes the file before the application can open the file. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Application/MSWORD files are for some reason not deleted. Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA02091 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01335; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:43:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA27755; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA70932 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21161 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 17:38:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPHBq-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 17:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 13:54:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mcc@gtegsc.com (Merton Campbell Crockett) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PC-Pine Creates Temporary Files witn Long File Names Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On a Windows95 system, PC-Pine creates temporary files with long file names like IM-123456.xxx where xxx is the file extension defined for the MIME type. The principal problem with this is that older Windows 3.x applications that can run under Windows95 cannot open the temporary file. Is there a configuration option that forces PC-Pine to generate 8.3 file names that can be opened by all applications that can run under Windows95? Merton Campbell Crockett GTE Government Systems, ESD/IOO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA04814 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA05264; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:42:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA05933; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA44814 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA27062 for ; Wed, 7 May 1997 22:39:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPLsY-00038fC; Wed, 7 May 97 22:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <336E8397.2B9497B1@discordia.ch> Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 03:04:23 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jonathan Apfelkern To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine/linux INBOX/OUTBOX copy References: <336A8242.4675@sade.com> <5kempc$prq$1@news.hal-pc.org> <3369D417.748C@atmu.cs.siu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > root of all evil wrote: > > > > In alt.hacker Antony wrote: > > : is > > : any possibility to: > > : * copy incoming mails and redirect this copies to an other eMail > > : address (home-address), as a background task... > > : * send the complete INBOX as one eMail/File to an other eMail > > : address (home-address), eg. twice a day. > > : (even if one is not logged on) > > : Are there any programs who do this? Any hints, suggestions are very > > : welcome!!! Yup. Sendmail can do this. qmail can do it even better. All you need is a .qmail (with qmail) which contains /home/user mail@another.user I would omit the sending of the complete INBOX, but instead forward it. > root of all evil wrote: [snip] Shane Simmons wrote: > hey dipshit quit logging in as root! He logged in as tiburon, you know. Jonathan -- "Discordianism is not just a religion; it is a mental illness." -- Lord Omar Ravenhurst From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA00704 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12010; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:09:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA15138; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:05:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA38096 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA08965 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPO7P-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 13:38:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Allan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: print before sending in COMPOSE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in advance. Bob Allan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05280 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12044; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:11:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA15165; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:05:17 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA54488 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:45 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA21089 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 01:04:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPO7P-00038gC; Thu, 8 May 97 01:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 15:37:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk (Aled Treharne) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: E-mail paging in UK X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup, but does anyone know of a company in the UK, that I can get to page me when I send an e-mail there. I am sysadmin of a server, and a friend has set up his server to check if mine is down. If it goes down, then he is paged. However, he lives in America. I would like for his computer to e-mail a company that would page me here in the UK. I have a British Telecom pager. I would be very grateful if anyone could either give me some info, or point me to the correct place to post. Apologies in advance for cross-topic postings. TIA, -Aled Treharne Aled Treharne felix@royal.net "Big Bird meets Salvador Dali has been brought to you by the numbers L and ), and by the letter 3." For PGP Public key finger taff@blue.bad.bris.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA07091 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA13537; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:35:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA14494; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA43748 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA09983 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:06 -0700 Received: from hare.wmin.ac.uk (pp@hare.wmin.ac.uk [161.74.92.95]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA08460 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 03:32:03 -0700 Received: from badger.wmin.ac.uk (actually host badger-ether.wmin.ac.uk user gwasb@badger-ether.wmin.ac.uk) by hare.wmin.ac.uk with SMTP (MMTA) with ESMTP; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:38 +0100 Received: (gwasb@localhost) by badger.wmin.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA12191; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:36 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:30:36 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arthur Dos Santos To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP!!!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you help me? I want to send an E-Mail to someone but i don't want my name at the top of it. Is this possible? and if so how do you do it? Your help will be greatly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA08470 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA10181; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:55:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA17456; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:59 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA44924 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA20355 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:42 -0700 Received: from patan.eleinf.uv.es (patan.eleinf.uv.es [147.156.7.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA15146 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 05:50:24 -0700 Received: from localhost by patan.eleinf.uv.es with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA160399053; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:13 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:13 +0100 (WETDST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can I put a message in a disk floppy ? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA07915 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA10613; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:32:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA22732; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA47898 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA14547 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 06:25:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPT8G-00038iC; Thu, 8 May 97 06:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksjih$a5a$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 13:13:53 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Using vi with pine References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu (Matt Simmons) writes: >Robin S Socha writes: >> And there's this, too: >> >> 109448 Dec 20 1995 /usr/bin/pico* >> 172716 Aug 10 1995 /usr/bin/joe* (or jpico...) >> 315772 Oct 22 1996 /usr/bin/vim* >> 2804464 Aug 28 1996 /usr/X11R6/bin/xemacs* :-) >On what planet? >[simmonmt@phoenix]:1:14pm:~> ls -l /p/pine-3.95/../*/pine >... 2035712 Aug 7 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../hp9k7-hpux9/pine* >... 1585620 Jan 20 16:37 /p/pine-3.95/../i86pc-sos5/pine* >... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix5/pine* >... 2484800 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../mips-irix6/pine* >... 2039808 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos4/pine* >... 2456708 Aug 1 1996 /p/pine-3.95/../sun4-sos5/pine* What's your point concerning pine? That is not an editor. >(yes, they're all stripped) Are they all dynamically linked? (still beside the point) >[simmonmt@phoenix]:1:18pm:/p/p20/xemacs-19.15> ls -l */xemacs >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4861952 Apr 3 13:26 hp9k7-hpux9/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3172384 Apr 2 16:30 i86pc-sos5/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 5584088 Mar 27 19:57 mips-irix5/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3953712 Apr 3 15:13 mips-irix6/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 4292608 Mar 27 18:41 sun4-sos4/xemacs* >-rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 3358164 Mar 27 21:55 sun4-sos5/xemacs* So you are comparing an MUA to an editor that includes a complete implementation of lisp. What does that have to do with the size of joe or pico or vi? On my SPARC running Solaris 2.5.1, here are the sizes of some editors: -r-xr-xr-x 5 bin bin 236328 May 3 1996 /bin/vi -rwxr-xr-x 5 root faculty 221008 Jul 11 1995 joe2.8 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root faculty 676312 Jul 6 1995 jove -rwxr-xr-x 1 root other 176536 Jul 6 1995 pico vi and joe are stripped, while jove and pico are not. >Given the extra functionality you get with xemacs (ignoring the 16M >lisp directory), I'd say they were pretty well matched. Neither joe nor jove requires any external resources. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA11816 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18225; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:48:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA28041; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:41:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA33824 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:50 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA27060 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:49 -0700 Received: from ucas.ac.uk (ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk [194.80.160.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18019 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 08:40:44 -0700 Received: from ucas-ws2.ac.uk ([194.80.165.32]) by ucas-firewall.ucas.ac.uk with SMTP id <15410>; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:45:00 +0000 Received: from localhost by ucas-ws2.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA10890; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:39:15 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 15:39:14 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Delaney To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: PINE time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: david@ucas-ws2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Colleagues, Greetings from the UK. We've recently changed our clocks from GMT to BST. The time field on the 'Date:' line in PINE's outgoing EMAIL shows the time as one hour slow. Any suggestions, please ? We're running under UNIX on a SUN SPARC-2000. Cheers, David Delaney Phone: +44 (0)1242-544742 Systems Administrator Fax : +44 (0)1242-221622 UCAS EMAIL: d.delaney@ucas.ac.uk Fulton House Jessop Avenue, CHELTENHAM Glos. GL50 3SH, ENGLAND From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14379 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16103; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA65278; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:31:03 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49048 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA00357 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:28 -0700 Received: from sophia.smith.edu (mflesher@sophia.smith.edu [131.229.64.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA15868 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:29:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (mflesher@localhost) by sophia.smith.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA10809 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:29:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Flesher To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern: While I was reading an old e-mail from Norway, a bug report flashed on the screen. I had no trouble with the message earlier. I plan to delete it. MFlesher@sophia.smith.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA14580 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:39:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16132; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:38:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA48898; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:27:30 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20434 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:26:16 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA16886 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:26:13 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 19:25:58 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA02491; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:28:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 13:27:59 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Allan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 6 May 1997, Bob Allan wrote: >Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my >composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there >seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in >advance. Bob Allan Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. Easiest (and imao best) thing to do is use an alternate editor. It can be set in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig). emacs would be a nice choice. Otherwise, I'd suggest using an alternate editor that supports spellchecking. HTH :-/ Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3G4wWe8+XvDOeNZAQFuMwf/WJILHGfFmMgtVIoDseTUuNrIFilUyjbD cmo6Yc/4hD0aIao1GEA8+nAfgBhomYJ74OoALTPCPaIvP/FLc2WT6qPTY7skK8d+ LtKEuiBokB46zrRRD6mXGOwcoez8PiuHssOuzhP/Uzg6gWvNkk6w17jAZF6UR2UB JCQ5MrKYwfhkkUdRWyL7pR7P5CrT1eoR9g1P7gv/kpGqDUm+S04x7TlfJjAR2vRp /7sOwBp1itr3OolrvEGVNUWVz108Wbhs2x/hssLtQBvmkJS1cZFY14O7UfN5MHKC Q6Y0Jtq25XonJi9aCygdukJ27kmQsUjCcSx8xJrzWzXmigTbP6pIuQ== =MCiu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02736 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA16216; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:41:36 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA48504; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA49150 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:33:17 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA17587 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 10:33:15 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 08 May 97 19:32:59 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA00646; Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:17 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 19:30:16 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 1997, MONICA ALMENDROS GARCIA wrote: > Can I put a message in a disk floppy ? Thanks. Quite easy: All you need is a felt pen, a sharp knife and a round sheet of paper, about 3.5' in diameter. Maybe a mousechord, too... A glass might come handy too... Apart from that: Check if you have mtools on your system. o E(xport) the message o mcopy a: done HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA14944 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA22682; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:39:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA15551; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:33:24 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA20526 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:32:05 -0700 Received: from sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (eUQUnSgmMJBRq1FHYRh7KcaXu4yX/kmx@sungod.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.104]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA24187 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 11:32:02 -0700 Received: from turing.sci.yorku.ca (turing.sci.yorku.ca [130.63.144.76]) by sungod.ccs.yorku.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA26449; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:32:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (allan@localhost) by turing.sci.yorku.ca (8.8.4/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA12228; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:31:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Bob Allan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bob Allan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Robin and Discussion Group Thanks for your quick response to my query. I have earlier to-day responded to Joe Young as follows: I mentioned this problem to a graduate student in our chemistry program who came up with a good, simple, solution that might be of interest. It is possible when in COMPOSE to POSTPONE the piece, go to MAIN, then to POSTPONED MESSAGES and finally to PRINT. It works fine! Thanks, Bob Allan. On Thu, 8 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > On Tue, 6 May 1997, Bob Allan wrote: > > >Hello! A rookie's question. I would like sometimes to print my > >composition for proofreading or consultation before sending but there > >seems to be no command for this in PINE. Is it possible? Thanks in > >advance. Bob Allan > > Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It > doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. > > Easiest (and imao best) thing to do is use an alternate editor. It can be > set in M(ain), S(etup), C(onfig). emacs would be a nice choice. Otherwise, > I'd suggest using an alternate editor that supports spellchecking. > > HTH :-/ > > Robin > > - -- > Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn > To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" > GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ > PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.3i > Charset: noconv > > iQEVAwUBM3G4wWe8+XvDOeNZAQFuMwf/WJILHGfFmMgtVIoDseTUuNrIFilUyjbD > cmo6Yc/4hD0aIao1GEA8+nAfgBhomYJ74OoALTPCPaIvP/FLc2WT6qPTY7skK8d+ > LtKEuiBokB46zrRRD6mXGOwcoez8PiuHssOuzhP/Uzg6gWvNkk6w17jAZF6UR2UB > JCQ5MrKYwfhkkUdRWyL7pR7P5CrT1eoR9g1P7gv/kpGqDUm+S04x7TlfJjAR2vRp > /7sOwBp1itr3OolrvEGVNUWVz108Wbhs2x/hssLtQBvmkJS1cZFY14O7UfN5MHKC > Q6Y0Jtq25XonJi9aCygdukJ27kmQsUjCcSx8xJrzWzXmigTbP6pIuQ== > =MCiu > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA20420 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA21652; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:03:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA22706; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:55:01 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA26990 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:53:32 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA01103 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 13:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPa7f-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Date: 8 May 1997 20:02:32 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Dirk Herr-Hoyman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Spell checker not working X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. I can run pico in standalone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn this on within Pine. I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. Any tips would be appreciated. -- Dirk Herr-Hoyman Journal of Extension From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA20156 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22814; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:49:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA26039; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:44:17 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA56406 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA28874 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:44 -0700 Received: from cyberspc.mb.ca (root@terra.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22687 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 14:43:42 -0700 Received: from planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca (gdeguzma@planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.9]) by cyberspc.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA25529 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 21:42:43 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:39:14 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Mary Grace Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mary Grace To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN HI!!! I need help.....I was wondering how i can send an attachment to someone if it's in drive a:\. Like if i wanted to send you guys a picture that was on a disk...jow could i do thta...i can't figure it out....HELP! ME From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA21066 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA23278; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:06:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA27862; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:02:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA36642 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:01:42 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA17330 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 15:01:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPbBG-00038fC; Thu, 8 May 97 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 12:28:00 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rick Lewis To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: message interrupts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One of the features I really like about Pine is that if a call is interrupted, the message I'm composing is saved. ''' Or is it? Well, sometimes it is, and sometimes it isn't! I have Pine set to send postponed messages to the postponed-message folder, and deadletter quelled. Sometimes, upon re-entering the composer, the entire message is there, waiting for me to proceed. At other times, when connecting to Pine, it tells me there's an interrupted message, c will ask if I want to continue it (no won't erase it), but when I try to continue, i get an "empty folder" prompt. Is there any way I can setup Pine to: 1. be consistent; 2. always have the interrupted message available to continue. (I've also tried this with dead.letter on, but it seems to work the same). Any ideas? All advice from Pine experts welcome! -- Rick Lewis (Of all the signature lines you've ever read, this is the most recent one). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA19346 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA29752; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:33:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA49714; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:28:49 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA38380 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:27:42 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA25602 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 16:27:38 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 09 May 97 01:27:23 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA00627; Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 01:03:23 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mary Grace X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 8 May 1997, Mary Grace wrote: > HI!!! I need help.....I was wondering how i can send an >attachment to someone if it's in drive a:\. Like if i wanted to send you >guys a picture that was on a disk...jow could i do thta...i can't figure >it out....HELP! 1. Put a decent subject on your mails. 2. State the OS you're working with. 3. State the version of pine you're working with. Apart from that (and I presume you're using pine on linux): 1. Easy: If you have mtool, say this in the shell: mcopy a: ~/ 2. A little trickier: mount /dev/fd0 /floppy #provided fd0 is you floppy and /floppy exists, otherwise say mkdir /floppy #or alternately try /mnt instead, then say: cp /floppy/ ~/ 3. Impossible: If you're not Ruth and don't have mtools, talk to your sysadmin. HTH, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3JbvWe8+XvDOeNZAQGzvQgAh/ylOrYaOXSOiICm4Od9dD0wDQTk0+6F HZBsYZEgmuzhgbNi0ENK/3myktp4UlwiXL8kjZJupFI2wdQ8iV+XqlK6HBYx8/UG L1xEkerPSvOIKe69+nmcvi4WPt32FPA2GOsX9c5GZ8YpLUM431vMfAWb6+kqRpr2 /MPRscUC0fuVURoqcfi+YVblVia379lM9gGIh0xtT9JgxKiv1J0/gH6EqSsdQO5W wtEQSyTLoOmHIgHMC5y28iW8tHrS0FPM5d/Y0p+O3+0Oc4BvdUIyRDXwJJzCgUXU mGXrxqD0EmwCH1ibK7T2/+QLuRq9iazu8OCghn3M0Z2ZWn19rVmQYA== =jYrt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA19116 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA00969; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:21:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA12534; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25482 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:11 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA14442 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:18:09 -0700 Received: from pusit.admu.edu.ph (pusit.admu.edu.ph [165.220.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA00914 for ; Thu, 8 May 1997 17:17:57 -0700 Received: from localhost by pusit.admu.edu.ph; (5.65/1.1.8.2/05Dec96-1119AM) id AA06420; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:24:48 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:24:48 +0800 (GMT+0800) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Tenorio . Alfredo N." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: re-sent In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hope you will give more information about using pine. again thank you. On Fri, 9 May 1997, Tenorio . Alfredo N. wrote: > > what is the steps or procedures in making a talk with the other user in > the computer? would it needed more updating of a unit? > > thank you, > Lee > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA27562 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA10753; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:38:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA29397; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:24:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA38782 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:23:52 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA06761 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 05:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPohG-00038fC; Fri, 9 May 97 05:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ktrap$ibf$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> Date: 9 May 1997 00:32:25 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: JT To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Headers: How can I see them? References: <5k9trt$hqn$1@nnrp01.primenet.com> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > How do I tell Pine to display the headers on my messages? > When I get a spam mail [chain letter or something equally annoying] I have > to save the file, read it, then return to pine to activate the > flame-thrower. Is there a easier way? When you are looking at a message you can just hit "H" to toggle the full header mode. If this doesn't work then you may need to go into the configuration to enable that. From the Main menu, type "S" (setup), then "C" (config). Type "W" (wheris) and enter "head". This should take you to the "enable-full-header-command" where you can put in an "X" to enable it. Hit "E" to exit and "Y" to save and you should be done. "O" "K" ;) -jt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA31633 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07565; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:41:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA10681; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:42 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA49782 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:34:02 -0700 Received: from happy.com ([38.241.225.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA03441 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 07:33:59 -0700 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18434>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:28:02 -0400 Message-Id: <97May9.092802edt.18434@gateway.happy.com> Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:35:45 -0400 Reply-To: SandraB Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: SandraB To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spell checker not working In-Reply-To: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dirk Herr-Hoyman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Did you try putting in the full path to ispell in your pine configuration? For example: From the Main menu, do S (setup) C (Config). At the setting "Speller" you may need to put in something like: speller = /usr/local/bin/ispell Your full path may vary! Hope that helps. Sandra ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Thu, 8 May 1997, Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: > > We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. > > I can run pico in standalone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, > ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn > this on within Pine. > > I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but > that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. > > This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all > seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. > > Any tips would be appreciated. > -- > Dirk Herr-Hoyman > Journal of Extension From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA32465 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12983; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:11:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA12105; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA52076 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA05680 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:28 -0700 Received: from inter.net.co (root@olafo.inter.net.co [206.49.32.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12752 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:01:10 -0700 Received: from acceso60.inter.net.co (acceso60.inter.net.co [207.49.84.124]) by inter.net.co (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01733 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 10:03:38 -0500 Received: by acceso60.inter.net.co with Microsoft Mail id <01BC5C5F.AB4E1180@acceso60.inter.net.co>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:59:22 -0500 Message-Id: <01BC5C5F.AB4E1180@acceso60.inter.net.co> Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 09:50:05 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: German Augusto Cuervo Barrera To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem testing pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: "'pine-info@cac.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I speak spanish. I speak and write bad english, but i read english = better. I have a problem when send messages. I have AIX 4.2 in spanish, = and pine 3.96. When I type Control X to send message pine display = "Sending mail | 0% |" and doesn't send message. AIX has a = process waiting " sendmail : servidor user@local". Can you help me ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA31923 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA13123; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:17:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA50814; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:08:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA54702 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA17748 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:53 -0700 Received: from clgrps05.agt.net (reg.local.sympatico.ca [198.161.156.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA12888 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:07:49 -0700 Received: from type-rite ([204.209.206.106]) by mail.telusplanet.net with SMTP id <268041-8300>; Fri, 9 May 1997 09:07:07 -0600 Message-Id: <33733DB1.A30@telusplanet.net> Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 09:07:29 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Valued Memory Lane Customer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WordPerfect 6.0 Merge Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win95; I) X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.04/msg00431.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have recently loaded Windows 95 and have still been working in DOS for my WordPerfect Files, I tried to merge my files and nothing happens, any suggestions. It appears to do something but nothing comes on the document. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA00644 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08655; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:28:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA13337; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08432 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:15 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA18424 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 08:19:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPrP3-00038fC; Fri, 9 May 97 08:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 9 May 1997 13:11:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN soma@smtp.dorsai.org (*selah*): > Anyone know if there's a way to set pine so that it will recognize > or notify whether a newsgroup reply was posted publicly or not? No. When I addressed this problem to a developer asking for a notification I got this answer: Quoting myself: > And still there is no indication the body of the text sent by that > tells me whether this response has been posted or not. Will this > change with Pine-4? Quoting developer: If you mean an automatic addition of text to that effect, no. If you see both a Newsgroup header and To: filled in, you can already tell, however, unless a news/mail gateway subverts that. So we will have to live with Pine not giving us info about "mail or post". If only Pine would include an X-Mailer or X-Newsreader to identify itself! Then you could add whatever to your favourite mailer and let it say "this was sent with Pine as a MAILER" or even "this was posted with PINE, too". Well, that's my top wish for Pine-4. That's why it is in the wishlist I keep: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/#wishlist Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [960301] | Latest version: Pine-3.96 PINE Info Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/ PINE Home Page : http://www.washington.edu/pine/ PINE Email List: Pine Information From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA08416 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA21421; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:10:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA04761; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA46612 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA15072 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:05:19 -0700 Received: from veena.cc.uregina.ca (VEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA [142.3.100.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA16670 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:04:38 -0700 Received: from meena.cc.uregina.ca by meena.cc.uregina.ca (PMDF V5.1-7 #20153) id <01IIO4D8GTIO9LV9GX@meena.cc.uregina.ca> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 9 May 1997 14:55:25 CST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:55:25 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: signature-file = Heather Hodgson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: possible bug MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might this be a bug? Sinerely, Heather P.S. If so, how can I tell? Heather Hodgson SIFC English Department University of Regina email: hodgsonh@meena.cc.uregina.ca phone: (306) 779-6246 or (306) 565-0147 :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA10079 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA18236; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:13:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA08250; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:10:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA17792 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:09:43 -0700 Received: from spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu (spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.174.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id PAA20974 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 15:09:41 -0700 Received: from maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu (david@maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.212.24]) by spnode04.nerdc.ufl.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA32966 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:09:39 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 18:09:30 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: David Nessl Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Nessl To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: bug report: pine cpu-loops waiting on filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: david@maverick.nerdc.ufl.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Given the pine display filter config _BEGINNING("-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED")_ /home/david/pine-filter-bug and the shell program pine-filter-bug which contains the two lines #!/bin/sh head -1 Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA11483 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA24981; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:45:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA11841; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:42:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA44242 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:41:42 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA28911 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 16:41:39 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 10 May 97 01:41:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA17149; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:24:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: signature-file = Heather Hodgson X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 9 May 1997, signature-file = Heather Hodgson wrote: > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having > to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might > this be a bug? > Sinerely, Heather > P.S. If so, how can I tell? Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent thing I've ever heard :-) Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your local help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your local hardware salesman. Cheers, Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3OkA2e8+XvDOeNZAQFZHgf+ICxkaNPUWTfisXV1SNAPIzmiGpFxAzDv vdn1Eze5G/VCfm2tV0oMQOhs/zxg46cyCFO/DH5AxOQmvqbA2ClU3Rc1pViqhK7v EFZxHMbMqLV7DSi5XzdO4X1dsPI8B95HEkVJIaXTjuQZwVluaB4J62/m4eLI0jyt x/4Fv6OehxHIUvIQSg/AxMp5r0s+7xmfOZ+HfziIHo6vzWZv0oJdq7zPSx4kR6eg ufq5jOVG0hD75qxA4MTdQOMr1QUHvqY2hPN6atgOmNxlX0rOygn09R1uSsBkehHA QvLSnP8LRPqirMGJQyGa1HUTYWfbv3nEDjs82hl0YS86Jk3ZzwOt2g== =+aM1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA04110 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25778; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:24:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA13757; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:29 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28894 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:13 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01922 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:22:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA32760; Fri, 9 May 1997 20:22:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > On Fri, 9 May 1997, Heather Hodgson wrote: > > > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm having > > to reprogram my printer every time I want to print something. Might > > this be a bug? > > Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent > thing I've ever heard :-) Sweet, sure. But I'm wondering how she "reprograms" her printer. :-) > Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact > with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your local > help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your local > hardware salesman. Most areas have 'consultants' that will do house calls if need-be. Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA04150 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA21224; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:28:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA07543; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA40372 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:33 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA12013 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wPzxR-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 17:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:09:23 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! In-Reply-To: References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 May 1997, Hans-Joachim Gurt wrote: > On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > > [...] > > Mail filters are supposed to be independent from mail user agents. > > ok - for mail, procmail works fine. > But for news, I havn't seen anything independent yet. [...] Because you mention procmail, I am assuming you are using some sort of Un*x system. Therefore, for general interest, I will repeat the post I made some time ago about a kludge for using killfiles _ahead_ of starting Pine to read newsgroups. = = = = = start reposted message (slightly amended) = = = = = Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:04:29 -0500 >From: Paul O Bartlett Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Kill Files On Fri, 21 Feb 1997, Nico Hailey wrote: : > But you can have a delivery program like procmail or slocal do it for you. : > That's what I do. : : For me procmail only filters mail, how do you get it to filter news? : a previous post on this thread sugested trnkill for news... Procmail does not filter news. It only deals with mail. I was the one who suggested running trnkill before reading news with Pine. It is a short Un*x script, and I will append it below my signature. There are several aspects that are necessary to know about using it. 1) Obviously, it only works on Un*x systems. 2) trn must be installed on your system and in your $PATH. 3) You must have killfiles. That is a small subject in itself which I won't go into here, although they are not too difficult to set up for basic operations. man trn can supply some information. 4) There is one minor glitch in the interface with Pine. Suppose at the moment, the highest-numbered message on your system for newsgroup soc.culture.junk.trash is 12345. It just so happens that that article meets a killfile criterion, so trnkill updates your .newsrc to mark 12345 as read. Now you are going from newsgroup to newsgroup in Pine with the key. If the next group you tab to is soc.culture.junk.trash, Pine sees that the highest-numbered article in the group right now is the same as the highest-numbered article marked as read in .newsrc, so it skips the whole newsgroup. Pine does not notice that there are some intermediate numbers which have not been marked as read. However, you can manually go back to the folder display, highlight the group, and open it "by hand." This glitch is more a nuisance than a real bug. trnkill shell script: #!/bin/sh # trnkill - shell script to apply trn KILL files in the background # 14 Mar 89 created for rn by Jim Olsen # 10 Sep 93 modified for trn 3 (or 2) by Wayne Davison # 16 Nov 94 complete rewrite; via e-mail from Chin Huang # # Options: -d debug mode -- you see all gory action as it happens. # # Visit all newsgroups (if trn asks about anything else, just say no) export TRNINIT TRNMACRO RNMACRO TRNINIT='-q -s -T -t -x +X' TRNMACRO=/tmp/trnkill$$ # support for trn 2.x RNMACRO=$TRNMACRO trap 'rm -f $TRNMACRO; exit' 1 2 3 15 cat >$TRNMACRO <<'EOF' z %(%m=[nf]?.q^J:n)^(z^) ^m ^(z^) ^j ^(z^) EOF if test X$1 = X-d; then echo "z" | trn else echo "z" | trn >/dev/null 2>&1 fi rm -f $TRNMACRO exit 0 Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA12621 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA21267; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:32:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA14163; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA45550 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:42 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01570 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:41 -0700 Received: from cyberspc.mb.ca (root@terra.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA25857 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 17:29:38 -0700 Received: from planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca (lanzay@planetx.cyberspc.mb.ca [198.163.240.9]) by cyberspc.mb.ca (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA20989 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 00:29:01 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 19:25:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michelle Seranno To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN whenever i try to forward or send mail...i get up to 100% completion..but then i get a disk quota exceeded...ive erased files..but i still don't know what's wrong..HELP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA12978 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA26588; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:23:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA15590; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA42700 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA15356 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ0oJ-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 18:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 08:34:14 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup In-Reply-To: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 May 1997, *selah* wrote: > We've had a problem with articles that people send to us in reply to our > posts in newsgroups. Pine doesn't recognize whether the reply was > posted to the newsgroup or was a private reply that wasn't publicly > posted. Pine itself has no concept of "public" or "private" replies. Just incoming emails and newsgroup postings. Public and private largely depend on the medium of transmission employed by the sender, which Pine has no control over. See reply after third paragraph. (Of course, in email there can be encryption for privacy, but that's a different matter.) > This has caused problems in the past when people sent us a reply that > they wanted to remain private and we thought it had been posted publicly > because pine asked if we wanted to post to the newsgroup. It is possible for a sender to transmit a message as an email and in the same process send it to a newsgroup. If an incoming email also has a newsgroup header, Pine can detect that and query you. It is up to you to decide whether you want your secondary reply to go out by email, by the newsgroup, or both. Pine is just passively reporting on what is presented to it. It is the sender on the other end who controls things for the message you receive, not Pine on your end. > Anyone know if there's a way to set pine so that it will recognize or > notify whether a newsgroup reply was posted publicly or not? This seems a little confused to me. If a reply (technically called a followup) is posted to a newsgroup at all, then almost by definition it is public, whatever the sender's intentions may have been. Private replies should go by email. It is really up to the sender to get the difference straight, not Pine, which is passive in thic case on the receiving end. Once again, Pine has no concept of "public" or "private." In situations like this, a little attention, intelligence, and knowing how things work go a long way. Before sending a reply, ALWAYS CHECK THE HEADERS. Even experienced users have tripped over their own feet by not checking the headers closely enough. No matter how good software is, at some point some things are up to the user. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA13382 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA22290; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:53:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA17174; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:51:07 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id SAA48574 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:43 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA14556 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 18:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ1GC-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 18:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <55itk5.nda.ln@pug1.SprocketShop.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 16:55:49 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kenneth P. Turvey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Spell checker not working References: <01bc5bea$ec46a960$9a1f9bce@madison> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dirk Herr-Hoyman wrote: : We having a problem with the spell check not working in Pine 3.96. : I can run pico in stand alone mode an turn on an alternative spell check, : ispell, via the environment variable SPELL. Setting SPELL does not turn : this on within Pine. : I tried to change the Pine configuration variable spell to use ispell, but : that just hung up, ispell was not invoked and I was stuck. : This pine was built as a part of Debian Linux. Other than this issue, all : seems to be fine and we have a number of users beating on it all the time. : Any tips would be appreciated. I don't remember if this is in the FAQ or where, but Ispell doesn't work well with pine. (Has this been fixed yet? Is it going to be?) In order to use Ispell you need to set it up as an alternate editor. Then you would invoke it with ^_. Good luck. -- Kenneth P. Turvey Finger my account for PGP key info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -- Thomas Jefferson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA08731 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA22410; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:04:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA17649; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:01:04 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA50850 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:00:50 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA07505 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:00:49 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 10 May 97 04:00:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA18641; Sat, 10 May 1997 03:42:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 03:42:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Hicks X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 9 May 1997, Christopher Hicks wrote: >On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: >> On Fri, 9 May 1997, Heather Hodgson wrote: >> > Recently my pc started acting up. The color is gone and I'm >> > having to reprogram my printer every time I want to print >> > something. Might this be a bug? >> Excuse me, Heather, but this is probably the sweetest and most innocent >> thing I've ever heard :-) >Sweet, sure. But I'm wondering how she "reprograms" her printer. :-) Reinstall System XY? >> Apart from that, there's nothing much to say. Without physical contact >> with your hardware, there's not telling what's wrong. Talk to your >> local help desk, or, if you're talking about a pc at home, talk to your >> local hardware salesman. >Most areas have 'consultants' that will do house calls if need-be. What's a "house call"? You get to pay $500 /h for the repair, but the sex is free? BTW, Heather is using an Apple dinosaur, the second most pathetic of all computers (well, there's NT running on Alphas...), so that buries all hope of actully helping. Nice weekend and stuff >:-> Robin - -- Robin S. Socha, M.A., Political Science Dept., Bonn University, Bonn To get my pgp public key, send an e-mail with the subject "get pgp key" GMC d++ s+:+ a- C++ UL++$>+++$ P+>++$ E>+ W- N+ o@ w--- M-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++>+++ t+() 5-- tv++(+) b+++ DI++ D+(++) G++>+++ e++>+++ h r++>+++ y+** Linux... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3PSnme8+XvDOeNZAQFjuQgAilAqg6RWY84DcMzRBGPNzJ5PBelsgf6A BvVxTS+p7rOg4P2bMWcgWixmqO1uPpzXLODH3wJ1Pi9jAYz7e+QAQzklX0LEhOUq Z/tbqj4D3RFkxclEvmBhmozqANSQ2qXEZbW7HgijsgP0zDO0+gwkElkiuAKPFIC6 mvVYS9D919Hqxm3J4JOB5ZXAafo/wCYjw3nKgAxreDHqSdzyi8jFTg82vqzyQ5pD BZLIJhCSOo38frP9leo5z0E6NCclvfIA21DDf6TS6hB7kTYA8OQ6MYO70okJ8gCv u36S1cn7X7uFm5TfTq2eQDnIKyCWRtnbzlQNYoj6cwM9vPI0mszYaA== =yWWO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA12582 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA27144; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:10:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id TAA18059; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA50738 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:37 -0700 Received: from yakko.chicks.net (chicks@yakko.chicks.net [205.166.143.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id TAA15262 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 19:07:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (chicks@localhost) by yakko.chicks.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA00643; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:07:31 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 22:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christopher Hicks To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: possible bug In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robin S Socha X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Robin S Socha wrote: > What's a "house call"? You get to pay $500 /h for the repair, but the > sex is free? Sex? There's sex involved? I'll book a flight, now. The $500 will cover the plane fare. Seriously, techies with basic PC knowledge will often work for $25/hour to help users out. If you can find a decent consultant its usually cheaper than dealing with computer stores and a lot less trouble. > BTW, Heather is using an Apple dinosaur, the second most pathetic of all > computers (well, there's NT running on Alphas...), so that buries all > hope of actully helping. An apple dinosaur... I guess that an Apple II. Wow. But anyway, I thought NT on a MIPS was worse. The Alpha actually has enough power that the high end alpha's running NT can almost do as much as a 386 running linux. > Nice weekend and stuff >:-> Weekend? I've got SO much to do. Some month I'll have a weekend again. > Linux... because a PC is a terrible thing to waste. Yes! Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to buy Microsoft products. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA14865 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29376; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:25:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA16666; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA44172 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:18 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15743 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:17 -0700 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29356 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:23:13 -0700 Received: from 202.54.29.173 ([202.54.29.173]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA11004 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:54:12 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <199705100524.KAA11004@bom2.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:54:12 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: SPRY Mail Version: 04.00.06.17 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pls. give us more infomation on Pine. Thanks / Mahesh Doshi. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15122 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA29707; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:59:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA17387; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:32 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA51496 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:21 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA18518 for ; Fri, 9 May 1997 22:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQ57o-00038gC; Fri, 9 May 97 22:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 20:21:48 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H.Brey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deferred news postings with pine ?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, is there any chance to tell pine to keep the newspostings just like it did it when the smpt - server value isn't set ?? I mean to keep the postings until the connection will be established and the 'sendmail -q' (I know this isn't a nice way to deliver mail but it works) command is started ? Is there a general chance to write several articles offline and deliver them (up to now I only use a PPP line that's why) the same way I deliver mail at the moment ?? Thank you. Heiko BTW: Please could you send me a mail too - I didn't always read this newsgroup - cu --- eMail: CTHUGA@sl.netzservice.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA09846 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03976; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:51:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA29840; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:48:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA34878 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:07 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA26629 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQAbA-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 04:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 20:07:32 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: bug report References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN mflesher@sophia.smith.edu (Mary Flesher): > To whom it may concern: While I was reading an old e-mail from Norway, a bug > report flashed on the screen. I had no trouble with the message earlier. I > plan to delete it. To whom it may concern: While I was reading an post from smith.edu today, a stupid sentence flashed on my screen. I had no trouble with smith.edu earlier. I plan to killfile it. Sven -- "You mean, this isn't alt.flame?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA17544 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA03985; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:52:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA22694; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:50:05 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id EAA34886 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:09 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id EAA08517 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 04:47:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQAbB-00038jC; Sat, 10 May 97 04:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 8 May 1997 20:03:47 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN allan@turing.sci.yorku.ca (Bob Allan): > Dear Robin and Discussion Group uh-oh... > I have earlier to-day responded to Joe Young as follows: I mentioned this > problem to a graduate student in our chemistry program who came up with a > good, simple, solution that might be of interest. It is possible when in > COMPOSE to POSTPONE the piece, go to MAIN, then to POSTPONED MESSAGES and > finally to PRINT. It works fine! You could alternally use a better editor or the program "screen" (which allows to switch between programs on the terminal) and simply start whatever program in another window. http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/screen/ Right now one "window" runs my shell (zsh), another has my editor (vim), one more has my newsreader (slrn) and in another I run my mailer (mutt). And if I should need a printout of some file then I switch to my shell and let "a2ps" do some magic on the file and hand it over to "lpr". :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA20074 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA07337; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:57:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id JAA07629; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA70978 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:14 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA19419 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:12 -0700 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id JAA07282 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 09:53:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (sultan@localhost) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA03364 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:24:09 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 22:24:08 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C)" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be sent. Please help at the earliest. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA09427 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07411; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:04:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA00337; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA40600 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA19757 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:10 -0700 Received: from titan.mad.servicom.es (titan.mad.servicom.es [194.106.0.133]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA02652 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:00:06 -0700 Received: from sonia by titan.mad.servicom.es (8.6.12/FI-3.3) Sat, 10 May 1997 19:05:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3374A94E.20E1@mad.servicom.es> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 18:58:54 +0200 Reply-To: sonia.pi@mad.servicom.es Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sonia.pi.@mad.servicom.es To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: A question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [es] (Win95; I) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only thing I can do with the second part is save it to a file but it is made as an html file,so when i tried to open it from my one of the browsers i´ve got(netscape 3.01 and Explorer 3.02)it shows me extrange text... . I asked someone who sent me such a message what he was doing,and he answered me that he was using Internet exchange and after I warned him about this application/ms tnef which appared in each e-mail it he told me:it must be happening that the exchange is not going well(?),and he was going to change the e-mail application client.He didn't indicate he had done anything different when sending the mail without the attachment. So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be avoided? -- Sonia Pi Corrales sonia.pi@mad.servicom.es "http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/4118" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA20960 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA07646; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:26:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA08602; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:23:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id KAA54780 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:22:50 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id KAA11551 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 10:22:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQFmn-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 10:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l1jk4$1ds$4@aggedor.rmit.edu.au> Date: 10 May 1997 10:45:24 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rudat@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (Martin Ming Rudat) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: print before sending in COMPOSE References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Robin S Socha (uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de) wrote: : Strangely enough, afaics, pico in pine doesn't support spell. *hmpf* It : doesn't support piped commands either. To say the least, this suxx. pico seeps to support spell on the school's general access system, at least is says is does, but I don't think that the computer does, for some very odd reason. -- visit my web-sites at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1509 http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~rudat email me at: martin@whoever.com rudat@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA19593 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA09841; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:52:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA06753; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA37986 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:19 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA17096 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 13:48:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQJ07-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 13:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 21:58:51 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Hans-Joachim Gurt To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Q: no filter mechanisme for pine?! In-Reply-To: References: <5k2755$ccp$1@elna.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 1 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett): > > On 28 Apr 1997 mustun@sam.math.ethz.ch wrote: > > > is it true, that in pine does not exist any filter > > > mechanisme like in elm? > > That is correct. At the present time, Pine does not do any mail or > > newsgroup filtering. > Mail filters are supposed to be independent from mail user agents. ok - for mail, procmail works fine. But for news, I havn't seen anything independent yet. > My wish for Pine-4.0: > Add a page of help that explains a "filter" in a few words and with > pointers to procmail in order to eliminate these kinds of FAQs right away! and explain how to filter/killfile while reading news with pine ? By(t)e, HaJo Gurt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA12778 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA05788; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:54:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA20158; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA38312 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:41 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id OAA22763 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:40 -0700 Received: from balu.sch.bme.hu (1073745584@balu.sch.bme.hu [152.66.148.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id OAA05747 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 14:50:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by balu.sch.bme.hu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/03May97-1037PM) id AA12796; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:05 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: Kiss Istvan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kiss Istvan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! I've a simple question: How can I set 'Reply to address' in my message? Thank for your help! Istvan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Istvan Kiss E-mail:xjenci@balu.sch.bme.hu Technical University of Budapest Schonherz Zoltan Dormitory Irinyi Str. 42. room 1602. http://www.sch.bme.hu/~xjenci Budapest, HUNGARY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA16794 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA06628; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:17:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA10347; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:14:27 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA28758 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:13:39 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA05267 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQLJR-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:29:50 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Kenneth P. Turvey" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How do get pine to show longer headers? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When composing mail, I would like pine to show longer headers so that I can see the complete names of some custom headers I have set up. Is this possible? How is it done? Thanks, -- Kenneth P. Turvey Finger my account for PGP key info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a man and a dog. -- Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA23210 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA11874; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:46:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA11078; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:44:03 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA40548 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:43:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA02563 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 16:43:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQLl9-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 16:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: 10 May 1997 20:53:50 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Untitled References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 10 May 1997 09:54:58 -0700, Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C) wrote: >As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota >exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be >sent. Please help at the earliest. Take this up with your provider. In simple terms it means you're over quota. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, "The Corbomite Maneuver", stardate 1514.0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA23539 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA07387; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:22:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA21546; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:19:24 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28916 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:18:44 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA28494 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 17:18:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQML0-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 17:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l326n$kri$1@cronkite.cisco.com> Date: 11 May 1997 00:00:23 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Annoying messages References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Carlos Nunes-Ueno wrote: : As a long time user of pine, I'm familiar with messages that pine spits : out, like these: : Move current "sent-mail" to "sent-mail-apr-1997"? : and : Move current "read-messages" to "read-messages-apr-1997"? I don't think I know the right answer, but you might want to try playing with the setting last-time-prune-questioned=97.5 to something high. So assuming that is year.month it asked you last, I would try setting it to say 98.1 (98 Jan or something ...). which also reveals that it has the Millenium Bug !! Anybody hearing ? -Roy- #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# | Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer | | Cisco Systems Inc. Phone : (408) 527 2028 (o) | | "Never forget that your weapon is made by the lowest bidder" | #=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-# From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA24879 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA09510; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:42:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA17240; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:39:18 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA46612 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:38:54 -0700 Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA06640 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:38:50 -0700 Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA00314; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:11:54 +0530 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19970511035335.007a4a10@giasbma.vsnl.net.in> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:53:35 +0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shirish Kalele To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Enriched Text Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Sender: shirishk@giasbma.vsnl.net.in X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! We use Pine 3.93 on our UNIX network and I was wondering if Pine can send enriched text msgs. And if so, how does one compose such a msg? I know that Pine 3.93 can interpret enriched text because it shows the text brighter and the underlined text underlined and so on.. Anybody got a clue? Shirish Kalele Bombay, India. http://members.tripod.com/~shirish_kalele/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA24543 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA09735; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA17771; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id UAA49240 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:16 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id UAA03804 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 20:59:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQPjZ-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l32gt$kri$2@cronkite.cisco.com> Date: 11 May 1997 00:05:49 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Abhay Roy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Difference between LCC and BCC? References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use it all the time. I think it just puts the list name on the To line. So what everyone sees is in fact a non-reply'able expression. I strongly support LCC option. Harry Slaughter wrote: : I think you should continue as you are. I tried using lcc, which is : supposed to fill out the "To" line for you, and it put the first : address on the mail list on the to line and confused all recipients. I : never figured out how to fix this. Now I mail to myself and include : everyone on the bcc line. : On Thu, 1 May 1997, Michael Pollak wrote: : > : > I've been sending lists using BCC for a long time now, and it works just : > fine -- so long as I put something in the to line (an appropriate alias : > with my address), every one the mail, but not the list of addresses. : > : > Does the new "lcc:" improve on this procedure in any way? All comments : > appreciated. : > : > Michael : > __________________________________________________________________________ : > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA25037 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA14900; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:07:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA17884; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id VAA50842 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:17 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id VAA04016 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 21:04:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQPrD-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 21:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l1k3s$1ds$5@aggedor.rmit.edu.au> Date: 10 May 1997 10:53:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rudat@minyos.its.rmit.EDU.AU (Martin Ming Rudat) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: character-set on the fly References: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do you log-in, if, like me, you access through terminal emulation software, there is no reason AFAIK that you couldn't create a macro there for typing all those key-strokes, and use one of the alt-(PC), cmd-(MAC) keys for that sequence. -- visit my web-sites at: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/1509 http://minyos.its.rmit.edu.au/~rudat email me at: martin@whoever.com rudat@minyos.its.rmit.edu.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA25660 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15933; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:37:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id WAA19577; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:41 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA42608 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA15349 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:12 -0700 Received: from seas.smu.edu (root@seas.smu.edu [129.119.3.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id WAA10691 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 22:33:10 -0700 Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.0 #29.12) id ; Sun, 11 May 97 00:33 CDT Received: by seas.smu.edu (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.0 #29.11) id ; Sun, 11 May 97 00:32 CDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 00:32:55 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Baris Tuncer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Attacment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have a question. I want to attach a file to my e-mails. But the same file is going to be attached to all e-mails. Is there a way to attach it by default? Otherwise I have to choose "To files" option and select the file each time. Thanks, Baris --------------------------------------- Y. Baris Tuncer Graduate Student Department of Electrical Engineering Southern Methodist University SMU Box 753075 Dallas, TX 75275-3075 Phone : (214) 768-6738 http://www.seas.smu/~btuncer --------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA25988 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA11255; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:33:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA20957; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26346 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:36 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA21710 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:29:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQS5d-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 06:14:05 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: crom@localhost.localdomain (Dana Booth) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: A question References: <3374A94E.20E1@mad.servicom.es> X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN sonia.pi.@mad.servicom.es wrote: : I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is : usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB : long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only : So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? : What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be : avoided? Just today, I was farting around with M$ 'outlook express', the mail client that comes with new version of Internet Explorer. I sent myself a piece of mail, and retrieved it using AK-Mail, another win95 mail client. To my surprise, right under my test message text there appeared some html tags with the same message. I did it again, but this time picked up the mail with Netscape (version 4.0 pr#4), and the html tags did not appear, only the test message. Netscape mail, though, is html aware, so I came to the conclusion that M$'s mail utils are sending html mail, but with plain text as a default. For non-html aware clients, such as Pine (and my AK-Mail), I suppose that M$ is inserting a boundary between the plain text and the html enabled mail text. Anyway, after you save the attachment, have you looked at it with just a plain old file viewer? Since you're using Pine, you must have Pilot, just load it up there and see if it's the same message between html tags. -- ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26083 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA11311; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:38:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA28965; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA05992 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:37 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA17293 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:34:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQS8U-00038jC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33718dd1.1204965@news.toplink.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 08:45:42 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de (Friedemann Baitinger) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: What's this: 'DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA' ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN recently I noticed the following mail in my inbox for the first time: | Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:11:39 +0200 (MET DST) | From: Mail System Internal Data | Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA | | This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not | a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. | If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created | with the data reset to initial values. Can anybody shed some light on this? Who put it in the inbox, is it something sendmail 8.8.5 (I upgraded recently) does or does it belong to PINE? I don't want this message in my inbox. If it needs to be there, it should at least hide itself so that it doesn't confuse the MUA. -- Friedemann Baitinger baiti@herrenberg.netsurf.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26191 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA16665; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:53:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA29314; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:50:00 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id XAA26272 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:49:41 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id XAA13502 for ; Sat, 10 May 1997 23:49:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQSPW-00038gC; Sat, 10 May 97 23:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <33712872.41060172@news.community.net> Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 01:17:18 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: billfox@community.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "No options screen yet" ? X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why, when I enter Setup, then select Options, do I get only the message "No options screen yet" ? I've checked .pinerc, saw nothing that seemed relative to this... Can anyone give me a pointer here?? I'm a Pine newbie . Thanks, Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26584 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA12198; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:02:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA01645; Sun, 11 May 1997 01:00:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id AAA40846 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 00:59:51 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id AAA11793 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 00:59:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQTXO-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 00:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 17:51:54 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How do get pine to show longer headers? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 May 1997, Kenneth P. Turvey wrote: > When composing mail, I would like pine to show longer headers so that > I can see the complete names of some custom headers I have set up. Is > this possible? How is it done? When all else fails, have you read the instructions before inquiring? I would suggest looking in the configuration for something that seems to deal with headers, as well as all the online help available both for each configuration item and for Pine as a whole (from the Main Menu). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA27962 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA18669; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:03:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA02806; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA20170 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:10 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA26356 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:08 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) id DAA28177 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <199705111000.DAA28177@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun May 11 03:00:06 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA28084 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA18883; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:22:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA25349; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA17826 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:10 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id DAA26703 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 03:20:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQVjS-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 03:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 11:12:08 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Clemens Oertel To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Question In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 10 May 1997, Kiss Istvan wrote: > I've a simple question: How can I set 'Reply to address' in my message? Hi there, just go in your pine.conf or .pinerc, find the entry which says 'customized-hdrs', and enter Reply-To: Someone Somebody or whatever. TTYL Clemens When posted in a newsgroup, please reply via pm as well. Thanx. This message derives from the Linux machine of Clemens Oertel, Tuebingen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA28660 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA15082; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:02:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA26342; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:39 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id FAA67208 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:23 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id FAA24786 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 05:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQXE2-00038gC; Sun, 11 May 97 04:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 10:27:17 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: HELP!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 May 1997, Arthur Dos Santos wrote: > Can you help me? I want to send an E-Mail to someone but i don't want my > name at the top of it. Is this possible? and if so how do you do it? Your > help will be greatly appreciated. If the header on your post is any indication, you are using an old and obsolete version of Pine, so old that I don't even know whether this answer will apply to you. As Pine comes out of the box, no, it cannot do what you want. You can change the domain name portion of your address, but not the userid. However, you may set whatever personal name you want. At the same time, modern versions of Pine may be compiled by a system administrator to allow changing the From: line entirely. This is a special option which many installations avoid deliberately. Still -- and I am not certain about this -- it is conceivable that somebody with enough expertise could divine your email address from the message envelope. P.S. People would appreciate it if next time you would use a more descriptive subject on your message than just "help." Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA17189 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA15860; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:17:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA27514; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:40 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA19532 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:16 -0700 Received: from jefferson.patriot.net (root@jefferson.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA22738 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 06:15:14 -0700 Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.7]) by jefferson.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA31115; Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:07 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 09:13:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: What's this: 'DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA' ? In-Reply-To: <33718dd1.1204965@news.toplink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Friedemann Baitinger X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 1997, Friedemann Baitinger wrote: [...] >Can anybody shed some light on this? Who put it in the inbox, is it >something sendmail 8.8.5 (I upgraded recently) does or does it belong >to PINE? I don't want this message in my inbox. If it needs to be >there, it should at least hide itself so that it doesn't confuse the >MUA. The message is put there by the University of Washington POP3 and IMAP servers, ipop3d and imapd. If you delete it, the POP3 and IMAP servers may serve messages you've already seen (but nothing bad will happen). Have you recently accessed your mailbox using Eudora, Netscape Navigator, or some other POP3 or IMAP client? If so, that's what resulted in the message. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA28495 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA22808; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:53:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA08678; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:51:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA56354 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:50:57 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA23676 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 08:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQatg-00038jC; Sun, 11 May 97 08:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 15:26:48 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu (Terry Asher) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deleting lots of messages X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one of the 400 messages? Terry Asher ******************************************************************************* * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA31166 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA19306; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:20:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA05036; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id LAA31234 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:13 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id LAA11922 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 11:16:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQd7e-00038jC; Sun, 11 May 97 11:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 12:48:11 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paul O Bartlett To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: recognizing if an article was posted to a newsgroup In-Reply-To: References: <5kv41h$f9t@kensie.dorsai.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 May 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > pobart@access.digex.net (Paul O Bartlett): > > If a reply (technically called a followup) is posted to a newsgroup at all, > > then almost by definition it is public, whatever the sender's intentions may > > have been. Private replies should go by email. > > So when you receive an email with a message id that includes "pine" - > how do you know whether it was posted to a newsgroup, too? [...] From the message-id alone, I would surmise that you probably can't. I just made a check both with my memory and in a spot check of saved message folders. All newsgroup postings I could see or recall which I viewed with Pine have a Newsgroups: header, including Sven's, which he apparently posted with slrn. I'm not sure just what process puts this header in, but it is already there in some form or other before Pine ever gets into the picture as a newsreader. I run trn in a sort of batch mode to run killfiles, and I can and do use Newsgroups: as a kill criterion. So the Newsgroups: header is not an artifact of Pine reading the post. I have also received mail with both a To: header and a Newsgroups: header, but I presume one knows whether s/he is reading mail or news. I really am rather confused by the original poster's distinction between "private" and "public" in this arena. Pine knows of no such things. It only knows of mail and news, and news by definition is a public medium, whether or not Pine even existed. If you want private, go to encrypted email. To be honest, I fail even to see what the real issue is here. Is it a question of HOW TO USE PINE to get the results you want when replying? That's mostly a matter of paying attention to what you're doing, watching the headers, and reading the prompts. As it now is, Pine's design assumes you can take at least a minimum amount of responsibility for what you are doing. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA31752 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20193; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:44:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id MAA07620; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA31410 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:02 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA06563 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:41:00 -0700 Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (root@mail.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id MAA20168 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 12:40:58 -0700 Received: from czyborra.home.cs.tu-berlin.de (czyborra@anonymous225.ppp.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.17.225]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA06374; Sun, 11 May 1997 21:30:34 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (czyborra@laptop [127.0.0.1]) by czyborra.home.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA00497; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:46:33 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Roman Czyborra To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to download e-mail? In-Reply-To: <5ga5r2$bfs@news.asu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: czyborra@cs.tu-berlin.de X-To: Adam Myrow X-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 14 Mar 1997, Adam Myrow wrote: > I am amazed that everybody forgot about the nifty feature in pine > 3.92 or later. It is called download command. If you go into > setup/config and see this option, you can set it to the name of a > file transfering program. So, if you wanted to be able to download > files straight from pine without exiting and you have zmodem, define > a "download command" of "sz -a." No period. Thanks. Wouldn't it be nice if Pine's context-sensitive help for download-command gave "sz -a" as an example or recommendation? > Now when you press e to export a message, you will be able to press > control-V to download straight to your PC. The only draw-back is > that the file gets a stupid temporary name. Does download-command-prefix help with this problem in Zmodem? > If you are really good, you can also define an upload command too. > If you are going to try that, bee sure and read the help text on it > because it isn't nearly as easy. Here I also missed a good example in the help text. The most intuitive choice "rz" doesn't seem to work because "rz" doesn't accept any filename arguments from the command line. However the "rx" for Xmodem receives does fine. With upload-command=rx you can easily press ^R(ead File) ^Y(upload) and then Alt-S(end) X(modem). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA18004 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA20644; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:09:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA15565; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:05:03 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id NAA56412 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:51 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id NAA03421 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 13:04:48 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 11 May 97 22:04:33 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00666; Sun, 11 May 1997 20:37:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:37:52 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robin S Socha To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages In-Reply-To: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Asher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sweetmorn, the 58th day of Discord in the YOLD 3163, Terry Asher wrote: > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say >messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one >of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher >******************************************************************************* >* UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * >* Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * >* Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* >* 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* >* Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* >* (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * >* Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * >* Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * >******************************************************************************* Yeah, that's an easy on alright... If you want to get rid of your mail rsn, just say this: for name in ~/Mail/[a-zA-Z]* ; do rm -rf $name ; done As a "UNIX Administrator & Web Master", you should be aware that (as someone pointed out some time ago), rm means "read mail" and the -rf option means "real fast". It is somewhat related to yamc, ie rtfm. But being a true professional, you knew that, oc. BTW, I *really* do like your signature. It's too long, too wide, and contains obviously counterfactual claims about your profession. What kind of "UNIX" are you administering --- Windows? Robin P.S. The answer is "aggregate commands", but being a "UNIX Administrator & Web Master", you were probably just joking in the first place... - -- Robin S. Socha --==| German Web Force |==-- Mission Critical Network Solutions Linux Administrator & Web Master -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBM3YSAme8+XvDOeNZAQHBxQf+K2M68t/2QVF9x2XdIs8ryMN3dmFi3r8V mzl3FzD6KRAQgZ5gYFY2YH0saUqS87XPa7Qkjamsvz/jgjudc3BXYKH3lm2RIz3a 0b0GUVCTe4Fb3wWCr5Iq/p5dA2RbXxr3R5dyBeOkq7HmH/XCuwh6C+Y3lCQemIjq O7JdLtUisX4u7PloCHDbaXGknKaJSqRVFfn3jQ9H8CAjaalSDISThNjovaB6Kjf8 y3TVdpb5Nm//gPHGgPUOYpEmUsr8g1WOqWGhV9pK3gMKzTvv6quU+ACi0Ogd/aPK Cc1g+0KKlmKo9dsmGTZ6VGM+tOhH/W98Dg9gZRRsERmRpu2out8NqQ== =mMiN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA01012 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id RAA28501; Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id QAA15548; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:59:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA73664 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:45 -0700 Received: from w617gja1.gjames.com.au (w617gja1.gjames.com.au [203.0.159.5]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id QAA13173 for ; Sun, 11 May 1997 16:58:37 -0700 Received: from w617gja2.gjames.com.au by w617gja1.gjames.com.au with ESMTP ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA099025112; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:33 +1000 Received: from w617gja2 (localhost) by w617gja2.gjames.com.au with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA133365110; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:30 +1000 Message-Id: <33765D25.2B15@gjames.com.au> Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:58:29 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: graeme higgins To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine 3.96 on dgux 5.4R3.10MU04 on motorolla Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: graeme@gjames.com.au X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (X11; I; HP-UX A.09.05 9000/715) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had to remove all references to const to get it to build sucessfully. All is running okay EXCEPT I cannot delete mail. Receive the error "Syntax error in sequence", then "Message 1 marked for deletion", the cursor moves to the next line but the previous line is not marked for deletion and nor are they deleted on exit. Debug file provides the following:- IMAP 8:30 5/12 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /users/graeme/.pine-interrupted-mail Can anyone shed light upon this problem? graeme graeme@gjames.com.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04900 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA28763; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:07:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA06987; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:34 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA44470 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:05 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA09953 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:03:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:01:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA15554; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:02:53 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:02:53 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199705100524.KAA11004@bom2.vsnl.net.in> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 1. For general help about starting Pine see its manual page. Assuming you are on a UNIX system this is usually shown by giving the command: man pine 2. Use Pine's built-in help to learn about its many commands and features. The Ctrl/G command will always display these help screens (and "?" will also do so unless it could legitimately be entered as a part of the field your cursor is currently on). Pine's help is "context-sensitive"; it tells you about the thing you are currently doing/your cursor is on. So don't assume that what you first see is all that there is! 3. Check the Pine home page on the World-Wide Web: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Sat, 10 May 1997 shivam@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: > Pls. give us more infomation on Pine. > > Thanks / Mahesh Doshi. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA03204 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04208; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:08:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07128; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:36 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA26556 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:18 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18567 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:06:15 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:04:56 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16331; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:04 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:06:04 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C)" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The message "disk quota exceeded" is not being caused by Pine per se. Instead it is coming from your operating system, and Pine is merely passing the message on to you. In particular "disk quota exceeded" means that you have exceeded your disk quota(!). That is, you are using up too much disk space with files and/or messages. You need to release some space by deleting any files you no longer need. At some sites each message you keep in a folder may use up some of your disk quota too, so you may also need to delete any messages you no long want to keep. Contact your local help desk for advice. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Sat, 10 May 1997, Sultanallys Solutions Ltd.(Demo A/C) wrote: > As soon as the message composed exceeds two lines, there is "disk quota > exceeded" message at the bottom of the screen and the message cannot be > sent. Please help at the earliest. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04835 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04254; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:12:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA00209; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA29326 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:16 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA05067 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:09:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:07:57 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16893; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:09:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:09:02 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "No options screen yet" ? In-Reply-To: <33712872.41060172@news.community.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: billfox@community.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It would have been a BIG help if you had bothered to say if you are using (UNIX) Pine or PC-Pine, and what version number you are using (it's usually shown up in the top-left corner of the Pine display). The configuration screen was introduced in (I think) version 3.90 or 3.91 of Pine. It has been enhanced, expanded and developed in more recent versions. The current version of Pine is 3.96. It sounds as if you are using a really old version. Check, and if you are, then look at upgrading to the current version. This is available by anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Thu, 8 May 1997 billfox@community.net wrote: > > Why, when I enter Setup, then select Options, do I get only the message "No > options screen yet" ? I've checked .pinerc, saw nothing that seemed relative to > this... > > Can anyone give me a pointer here?? I'm a Pine newbie . > > Thanks, > Bill > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04148 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA04286; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:16:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id BAA07330; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:45 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA19646 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:35 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id BAA18796 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 01:13:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 09:12:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA17746; Mon, 12 May 1997 09:13:06 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:13:06 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Deleting lots of messages In-Reply-To: <5ksrbo$ch4$1@alpha2.drake.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Asher X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 0. Check your Setup Configuration screen and make sure that "enable-aggregate command-set" is selected. Whilst there, put your cursor on this option and read its built-in help by typing "?". 1. Return to the Index screen. 2. Use the ; (Select) command to choose some messages according to some criteria, following the menu at the bottom of the screen. For example: ; N 1-400 3. Apply a command to the selected messages. For example: A D Keep watching the command menu at the bottom of the screen as you work through these: that way you'll see what other selection criteria are available, and what other commands can be applied to selected messages. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On 8 May 1997, Terry Asher wrote: > Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say > messages numbered from 1 to 400 without typing d for every single one > of the 400 messages? > Terry Asher > ******************************************************************************* > * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * > * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * > * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* > * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* > * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* > * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * > * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * > * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * > ******************************************************************************* > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28574 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08521; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:03:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA14985; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id GAA44794 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:40 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id GAA18410 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 06:58:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQvZ1-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 06:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5l03cs$de@news.blkbox.com> Date: 9 May 1997 21:02:20 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Whatley To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Don't expand newsgroups X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Actually I have a few pine questions. I've checked the FAQ. How do I get pine to not expand the newsgroup fold but still expand the mail folders? I'm using pine 3.90. What is the latest version of pine? 3.96? What was the release date? My ISP claims pine isn't being supported any more and is "old". Where is the official site to retrieve the latest version? I really like pine. I rather telnet to my ISP to use pine rather than using Endura (or Pegasus Mail) via POP3. Thanks, Steven http://www.blkbox.com/~swhatley/ _|_ | _|_ "I am the way and the truth and Steven Whatley | --|-- | the life. No one comes to the swhatley@blkbox.com | | | Father except through me." Houston, Texas | -- Jesus Christ (John 14:6 NIV) | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA07601 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA08809; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:23:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA15704; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:19:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA56542 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:18:46 -0700 Received: from rain.psg.com (root@rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA19894 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:18:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0wQvvO-00038gC; Mon, 12 May 97 07:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) Message-Id: <5ksqnh$ce8$1@alpha2.drake.edu> Date: 8 May 1997 15:16:01 GMT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ta2321s@alpha6.drake.edu (Terry Asher) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Deleting lots of messages X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, this is an easy one. What is the command to delete say all the messages starting from 1 to 400 with one command without having to type d for every single one of the 400 messages? Terry Asher ******************************************************************************* * UNIX Administrator & Web Master | Yours through INTERNET, * * Academic Computing & Media Services| Terry Asher * * Carnegie Hall - Drake University | UNIX-INTERNET* * 2620 Carpenter |For the listener who listens in the snow* * Des Moines, Iowa 50311 USA |and nothing himself, beholds the nothing* * (515) 271-3677 |that is not there and that is there. * * Did you know that NutraSweet contains strychnine? * * Web home page at http://www.drake.edu/public/ta2321s_home.html * ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA04909 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA09282; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:53:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA16952; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:44:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28988 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:35 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id HAA28740 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:33 -0700 Received: from is2.nyu.edu (pqr7499@IS2.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.135]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA09086 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 07:42:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by is2.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/28Jan97-0620PM) id AA25278; Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:10 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:42:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Paula B. Rand" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Can you help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi. I was recently informed by the computer that my disc quota has been exceeded, and therefore with numerous beeps, it told me I could no longer save anything. Neither can I append new addresses to my address book. I consequently deleted a large number of files, but this seems to have made no difference. Help? Thanks, Paula Rand From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA09812 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA04219; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:16:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id IAA10878; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:58 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.04/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA18234 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:38 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id IAA08836 for ; Mon, 12 May 1997 08:10:31 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 12 May 1997 15:40:12 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id PAA18125; Mon, 12 May 1997 15:41:22 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 15:41:18 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Don't expand newsgroups In-Reply-To: <5l03cs$de@news.blkbox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steven Whatley