From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 00:24:58 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA12099 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA03645 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stanton-1-1.quick.net (newport-1-10.quick.net [206.171.89.210]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA03641 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (soil@localhost) by stanton-1-1.quick.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA16473; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:17 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: stanton-1-1.quick.net: soil owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:16:16 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Gilliam To: AJF cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! How do you send to more than one newsgroup? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-IRC: soil X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.1.6.1-RELEASE i386 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:14:45 -0500, in message , AJF wrote: > I want to send a post to several "comp" newsgroups. How do I do that. > Can I use wildcards? If I wanted to post to all newsgroups that start > with "comp" how would I do it without typing in each one. I tried using > *.comp.* and it didn't work. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, This is not supported in any news client I've seen, nor should it. The action which you describe is against news netiquette and would no doubtably lead to the removal of your account at your internet provider for spamming. Josh Gilliam -- soil@quick.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 01:49:07 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:49:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13718 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04669 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:45:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04665 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:45:32 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:45:01 +0800 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:45:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Gerald Rosario cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Question In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970128120801.006e2664@students.uiuc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Gerald Rosario wrote: > Hello, > > I've setup a large distribution list. When I compose e-mail I put my own > address in the To: field and the distribution list in the BCC: field. > > Now, my question is, when one of the recipients in the distribution list is > prompted to reply to all recipients? Does this mean that his/her reply > goes to everyone in the Distribution list or does it go to everyone in the > To: field. Just to what they see in the To: field. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 06:15:54 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA16182 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:15:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA07614 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:13:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA07610 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 06:13:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (st7m2@localhost) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id IAA26183 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:13:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 08:13:00 -0600 (CST) From: "Hey! no more else.." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A question? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Who may concern: Now I have a question about how pine works. Is that possbile that I can download something from attachment. But the problem is I dont' know how to do it. I really want someone help. If having any question about what I need. Please ask me..I do appeciated for asking me those because I am confused about how to ask this too.. Take care Johnny From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 07:16:07 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:16:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16923 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:16:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA08281 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA08277 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 07:13:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqh06-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 07:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: username not right: how do i change my reply-to address? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:54:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Kevin Beason wrote: > I am using (on a different account) a service from www.iname.com that > forwards my mail coming to their address to one I specify. > > How do I change my reply-to address to their address, so that my outgoing > mail has their address for the return address, instead of mine? > > All I can seem to do is change the domain, and not the username. > > Also, I am using UNIX Pine and I have it set to use their SMTP server. > Put simply, > > ***How do I change my reply-to address?!?!?!*** Sendmail allows you to do this, except you'd have to manually enter all the headers like From:, To:, etc. That's the only way *I* know of. Try: sendmail -fwhoever@iname.com recipient recipient etc To: someone From: You Subject: Something this is how. . --- Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ Resume: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/resume.shtml AKA Sunspot on Paradise talker Member of the HTML Writers Guild From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:01 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26589 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16562 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16558 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBb-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Goubet" Subject: Pine & MS Mail Date: 1 Feb 1997 17:29:24 GMT Message-ID: <01bc105c$c9310580$LocalHost@goubraph.skynet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I'm a user of Microsoft Mail, which seems to have one (more) bug : the body of one of my correspondent's messages, who uses Pine, is not displayed, though the whole message is downloaded (it even appears when viewing the message source). Does anyone has ever heard of an incompatibility between Pine and MS Mail ? Is there something that can be done ? Thanks. -- Raphael Goubet goubet@skynet.be (e-mail replies prefered) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:02 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26599 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16574 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16564 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBe-00038lC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Multiple nntp servers? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:36:28 GMT As far as I understand it, I can configure PINE to access several news-collections on multiple news servers, but it only supports posting to the one nntp server that's configured in the nntp-server configuration. The other collections are effectively "read-only". Obviously(?), one cannot post to a group that isn't supported by the particular server that one has configured, even if it would otherwise accept the posting. Also, when the news collections are displayed in the menu, under each news server it lists the entire menu of groups subscribed to, regardless of whether they are really available on that server. When you try to access a group that the particular server does not support, it gives error 411 No such group. Have I understood the supported options correctly, or is there some feature that I've missed? As you may guess, I have read+post access to some limited-distribution groups on a remote server, but need to access the rest of the normal usenet groups repertoire via my normal server. thanks for any suggestions From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26604 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA15494 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA15490 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBe-00038kC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mats@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mathews J. Thundyil) Subject: Help!! Suspended mesgs in Pine are Killing ME!! Date: 1 Feb 1997 12:31:46 -0600 Message-ID: <5d026i$laj@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> Hi, I have a problem. When I am composing a mail and for whateer reason have to attach a file (^T), and then decide to cancel the operation (^C) I have always been returned to the mail I was composing with my command cancelled. But, I have a new account, that when I do the same thing, essentially *suspends* the message, and *quits* to the unix prompt. And I lose everything (bwaaa haaaa!!). Now if I want to exit from unix, I am told that I have suspended messages. I would like to know (a) what config settings I need to have so that I dont get quit out of pine everytime I have to conacel some command (b) What unix command do I use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages? (c) what pine command do I need to use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages. Matt p.s. I dont have a suspended folder in my pine, nor is anything saved in my posponed or saved folder. p.p.s excuse the typos. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:03:50 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26583 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA15488 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA15484 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 17:59:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrBb-00038hC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Ed White Subject: Foreign news servers Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 12:56:31 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.95. I have two news servers set up in my configuration, and two news folders for each. The second news server is foreign, not a part of my ISP nntp server, and its newsgroups are not available on the local nntp server. I can read groups from the foreign server, but cannot post. Pine validates groups only on the local server. In the "secrets of pine" help file, it states that Pine will only post to a second news server listed in the configuration if the first news server is not responding. This means that, if the first server responds, and the requested newsgroup is not on that server, Pine will respond with an error, and will not proceed to the second server. Is there any way around this? Thanks, Tom Ed White From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:07:27 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26648 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA15556 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:04:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA15552 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:04:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrFj-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 18:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Help!! Suspended mesgs in Pine are Killing ME!! Date: 2 Feb 1997 01:36:43 GMT Message-ID: References: <5d026i$laj@piglet.cc.utexas.edu> On 1 Feb 1997 12:31:46 -0600, Mathews J. Thundyil wrote: > >But, I have a new account, that when I do the same thing, essentially >*suspends* the message, and *quits* to the unix prompt. And I lose everything >(bwaaa haaaa!!). Now if I want to exit from unix, I am told that I have >suspended messages. Sounds to me like it's just a matter of Pine (or unix?) interpretting your keystrokes into the "suspend" command, (^Z). >I would like to know >(a) what config settings I need to have so that I dont get quit out of pine >everytime I have to conacel some command You could de-select 'enable-suspend' from the Pine configuration screen. >(b) What unix command do I use to recover/unsuspend suspended messages? 'fg' will put the last suspended job back into the foreground. >(c) what pine command do I need to use to recover/unsuspend suspended >messages. > >p.s. I dont have a suspended folder in my pine, nor is anything saved in >my posponed or saved folder. Well if it was, in fact Pine which was "suspending" your message, it would be writing it to your postponed folder. I'm quite sure that it's a case of Unix suspending the job. > >p.p.s excuse the typos. Happen's to the best of us... ;-) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Conway's Law: In any organization there will always be one person who knows what is going on. This person must be fired. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 18:33:06 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:33:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA26911 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA16920 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:29:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA16916 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 18:29:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqrgQ-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Many Thanks Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:03:29 GMT Message-ID: References: anteboth@mailserv.tu-freiberg.de (Stefanie Anteboth): > I'm looking for some mail from far away. > Maybe it's a first try to start collect adresses. Why? What for? Will Email from berlin suffice? ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 19:42:40 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:42:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27550 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16584 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA16580 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 19:39:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqsm9-00038kC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 19:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5d0hae$7ib@usenet11.interramp.com> Date: 1 Feb 1997 23:32:08 GMT Control: cancel <5d0hae$7ib@usenet11.interramp.com> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:03:28 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:03:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28393 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:03:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA18545 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:58:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eve.speakeasy.org (eve.speakeasy.org [199.238.226.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA18533 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:58:26 -0800 From: eddisc@speakeasy.org Received: from localhost (eddisc@localhost) by eve.speakeasy.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA06036 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 20:57:23 -0800 (PST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, rebeccaw@wolfenet.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:10:16 -0800 (PST) From: "Nancy J. Peacock" To: shani taha Cc: jalair box , "T. J. Morrison" , eddisc@speakeasy.org, marloti@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:24:48 -0500 (EST) From: hwa@octet.com To: misha Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] >From: ATarelkine@aol.com >Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 01:00:53 -0500 (EST) >To: hwa@octet.com >Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] >X-UIDL: fb7ee51f66f5f06e6edf4a0673d85fc0 > > >--------------------- >Forwarded message: >From: Romka@ix.netcom.com (Roman) >To: dimash@ix.netcom.com (Dima), sergeys@ix.netcom.com (Sergey), >103600.360@compuserve.com, andranik@ix.netcom.com (Araik), atarelkine@aol.com >(Alexandre Tarelkine) >Date: 97-01-30 01:28:30 EST > >Return-Path: >Received: from aig-fw1.aig.com (ACCESSAIG1.AIG.COM [167.230.227.138]) by >ixmail2.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) > id OAA10752; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:39:04 -0800 (PST) >Received: from aigmail.aig.com by aig-fw1.aig.com > via smtpd (for ixmail2.ix.netcom.com [199.182.120.62]) with SMTP; >28 Jan 1997 22:37:35 UT >Received: by aigmail.aig.com > (1.37.109.16/16.2-WT4.0) id AA055330015; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:33:35 -0500 >Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:33:18 -0500 >From: "Kirill.Sirotinskiy" >Message-Id: >Subject: Re: Internet Virus >To: nazas@msn.com, abank@nicom.com, victor@iquest.net, scsi@arkada.spb.su, > alex@unice.spb.ru, melvin.lopez@hfsinc.com, romka@ix.netcom.com, > JStrupel@aol.com, alex@dbna.com >X400-Mts-Identifier: [ /P=AIG/A=MCI/C=US/ ; n\wtln01\970128143318g ] >X-Mailer: Worldtalk (4.0.2-p8)/MIME > >---------------------- Forwarded by Kirill Sirotinskiy on 01/28/97 12:39 PM >--------------------------- > >I just got this E-Mail Message. Please pass it on to anyone you know. > > >Would hate to see a bad thing happen to any of MY friends, so please >read this important message I received from my Corporate Headquarters and >forward it on to YOUR friends. > >** High Priority ** > >Please read and heed the attached re: a new virus that is being transmitted >via Internet. > >There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO NOT read >the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. > >Some miscreant is sending e-mail under the title "Good Times" nationwide, if >you get anything like this, DON'T DOWN LOAD THE FILE! It has a virus >that rewrites your hard drive, obliterating anything on it. Please be careful > >and >forward this mail to anyone you care about. > >The FCC released a warning last Wednesday concerning a matter of major >importance to any regular user of the Internet. Apparently a new computer >virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ONLINE that is >unparalleled in its destructive capability. Other more well-known >viruses such as "Stoned," "Airwolf" and "Michaelangelo" pale in >comparison to the prospects of this newest creation by a warped >mentality. What makes this virus so terrifying, said the FCC, is the >fact that no program needs to be exchanged for a new computer to be >affected and spread through the existing e-mail systems of the Internet. > >Once a computer is infected, one of several things can happen. If the >computer contains a hard drive, that will most likely be destroyed. If the >program is not stopped, the computer's processor will be placed in an >nth-complexity infinite binary loop - which can severely damage the >processor if left running that way too long. Unfortunately, most novice >computer users will not realize what is happening until it is far too late. >Luckily, there is >one sure means of detecting what is now known as the "Good Times" virus. > >It always travels to new computers the same way, in a text e-mail message >with the subject line reading "Good Times." Avoiding infection is easy once >the file has been received simply by NOT READING IT! The act of loading >the file into the mail servers ASCII buffer causes the "Good Times" mainline >program to initialize and execute. The program is highly intelligent - it >will send copies of itself to everyone whose e-mail address is contained in a >receive-mail file or a sent-mail file, if it can find one. It will then >proceed to trash the computer it is running on. > >The bottom line is: If you receive a file with the subject line "Good >Times," delete it immediately! Do not read it. Rest assured that whoever's >name was on the "From" line was surely struck by the virus. Warn your >friends and local system users of this newest threat to the Internet! It >could save them a lot of time and money. > >PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! > > >--------- End forwarded message ---------- > > > > > > ------------------ Boris Rayskin HERE WE ARE UNLIMITED, Inc. hwa@octet.com http://www.umich.edu/~yegor/mitki/recent/skiif http://www.brainiactive.com/katya/SKIIF +1/718/369.0147 phone/fax SERGEY KURYOKHIN INTERNATIONAL INTERDISCIPLINARY FESTIVAL, JANUARY 15-25/1997, New York, USA Knitting Factory/Cooler/Bitter End/Washington Square Church From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:22:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:22:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28203 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:22:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17614 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:20:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sdsu.edu (mail.sdsu.edu [130.191.25.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17607 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (sem@localhost) by mail.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA29245 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:19:30 -0800 (PST) From: Siao ling Sem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disc exceeded Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Ling From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:24:14 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:24:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28604 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:24:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17634 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rohan.sdsu.edu (rohan.sdsu.edu [130.191.143.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17630 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (sem@localhost) by rohan.sdsu.edu (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA20456 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:21:31 -0800 (PST) From: sem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disc exceeded Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Ling From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 21:43:53 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:43:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28847 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:43:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17832 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17828 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:09 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id VAA29303; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 21:41:08 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Internet virus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please DO NOT take this seriously. The 'GOOD TIMES' virus is what you've already read. There is no danger to your computer or its files. The 'GOOD TIMES' virus is nothing more than an e-mail message that has been propagated around the world more times than I would care to imagine. The message IS the virus, and spreading it to all of your friends to warn them only serves to put further strain on an already overwhelmed Internet. There are only two ways your computer can become infected with a virus from e-mail: one is if the e-mail is contains a Word for Windows macro virus - but it would have to be put into your hard drive and run *as* a Word macro. The only other possibility of contracting a virus from email is from an attached file, and you *still* won't infect your computer by simply reading it. There IS no virus that your computer can aquire from your *reading* your e-mail. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 22:18:41 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:18:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29226 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19372 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA19368 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 22:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqvAO-00038XC; Sat, 1 Feb 97 22:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Aronson Subject: Re: News Question Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:58:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Bruce Ramsay wrote: brucer> I was wandering if Pine had the options so that it would only show the brucer> newsgroups with unread mail in it. I know netscape does it but I've brucer> really got into using pine. The reason I could do with this is that I brucer> have at least 30 company related newsgroups to go through each day. brucer> Most only get occasional postings so it would be nice if it only brucer> showed me the ones that have messages in them. There may be an easier way (I've only been using pine for one day now), but the way I've been doing this is to use the Delete and Exclude features (to make it think that the ones with no new news are empty), and when I want to see all the new news, I go to the first one and let TAB take me to the next one with new news. This way, it imitates pretty closely the behavior I'm used to from .QWK-type offline readers, or Maximus BBSes doing Browse/Tagged/New/Read. -Dave Aronson, Sysop of Air 'n Sun BBS, at (703) 765-0822 OFFICIAL NOTICE: UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL EMAIL WILL BE RECEIVED BY THIS ACCOUNT FOR A FEE OF ONE THOUSAND U.S. DOLLARS, DUE UPON SENDING OF SUCH EMAIL, WITH A 2%/MONTH LATE-FEE, PLUS ANY COSTS OF COLLECTION. ANY PHONE NUMBER THEREIN MAY BE DIALED HOWEVER MANY TIMES, AT WHATEVER TIMES, AND ANY EMAIL ADDRESS THEREIN MAY BE SENT WHATEVER TYPE AND QUANTITY OF EMAIL, AS I MAY PLEASE TO DO SO. SENDING ME ANY SUCH EMAIL CONSTITUTES ACCEPTANCE OF THESE TERMS. GIVE A DAMN, DON'T SPAM! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 1 23:06:53 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:06:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA29838 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA18726 for pine-info-out; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:04:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tiger.lsu.edu (tiger1.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.174.46]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA18722 for ; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 23:04:13 -0800 Received: from localhost by tiger.lsu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA72986; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:03:54 -0600 Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 01:03:54 -0600 (CST) From: Ming Liew To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Email message! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am one of the LSU email members, I just want to know whether the e-mail message that I sent to my friend can be deleted in his account or not? And also if it is still being kept in his account or not? I am waiting to hearing from you soon. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 00:19:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:19:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30682 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA19536 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:15:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA19532 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:15:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqx4s-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 00:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: Use "8bit" encoding for News. Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 00:27:24 +0100 Message-ID: <199702020027241155292@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mike Brudenell wrote: > Hi - > > You don't mention which version of Pine or which platform it is on (UNIX > or PC). In this case the latter is probably irrelevant, but as long as > you are using Pine 3.95 you should try taking a look in the Setup > Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) for the variable: > > enable-8bit-nntp-posting > > If you put your cursor on this and ask Pine for the builtin-help about it > (type a "?") I think you may find it useful to you. :-) does Pine automatically take care of the necessary correct headers for eight-bit postings? What features do you think should the system administrator set as defaults for his users? My /usr/local/lib/pine.conf looks like this: character-set=ISO-8859-1 nntp-server=news.zrz.tu-berlin.de printer=lpr Any other ideas what could be set for lazy or novice users? (I don't use pine myself, so I really can't say). -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 02:33:21 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:33:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA31919 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:33:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22163 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:30:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA22159 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 02:30:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqzBi-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 02:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bauerp@niagara.com (Patrick Bauer) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 2 Feb 1997 10:20:38 GMT Message-ID: <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in order to send mail. Pat. >> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via >> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name than >> that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login name is my >> local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the correct one. > > I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 2 05:28:47 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA00872 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:28:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22857 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22853 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:25:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr1vN-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 05:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Subject: cmsg cancel <5d237m$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:09:14 GMT Control: cancel <5d237m$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:33:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA32654 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:33:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24095 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:31:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from NetUSA.Net (mail.NetUSA.Net [204.141.0.25]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24091 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:31:12 -0800 Received: from Alpha.NetUSA.Net (204.141.0.10) by NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vr20n-001vtgC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 08:31 EST Received: from localhost by Alpha.NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vr1zX-001yXiC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 08:29 EST Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 08:29:55 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Velez To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looking for the ww mailing list. how to get into internet services, it says no access. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01235 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24322 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24316 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:24 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:53:16 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00502 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:58:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:58:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Many Thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 30 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >From: Sven Guckes >anteboth@mailserv.tu-freiberg.de (Stefanie Anteboth): >> I'm looking for some mail from far away. >> Maybe it's a first try to start collect adresses. >Why? What for? Will Email from berlin suffice? ;-) Yet another lonely co-ed? Apart from that, Berlin sucks BIG time. Bonn is farther away and a *lot* cooler. Write to me/ME TOO!!! Cheers, ROBIN@AOL.COM ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01247 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:57:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24328 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24324 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:53:35 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:53:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00665; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:28:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: sem cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: disc exceeded In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Feb 1997, sem wrote: >To whom it may concern, > >I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved >the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that >I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Depends on the OS your pine is running on. To state the obvious, the easiest thing to do is to rtfm: man rm man quota man mv If you're a very brave man, try the following: cd (or cd Mail or where ever you suspect the large files to hide) ls -alFS | less rm That should get you started right now. If you keep getting large files on a regular basis, try to tell the senders that email is not made for that and that they had better use ftp. Also, try to get more disk space if necessary - talk to your sysadmin for that. He's also the person you ought to turn to with problems like the one you're just having. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:58:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA01228 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:58:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA24343 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:54:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA24331 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 05:54:09 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 14:54:01 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00619; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:21:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:21:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: eddisc@speakeasy.org cc: pine user-list , "Daniel W. Moehwald" , barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, rebeccaw@wolfenet.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Feb 1997 eddisc@speakeasy.org whined: >To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, helixlm@aol.com, ^^^^^^^ >74553.104@compuserve.com, JEKEL@aol.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Anyone wanna play odd-man-out? >Subject: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) >To: shani taha , marloti@aol.com Hmm, there's more... >>103600.360@compuserve.com, atarelkine@aol.com (Alexandre Tarelkine) And more... >>To: nazas@msn.com, abank@nicom.com, victor@iquest.net, scsi@arkada.spb.su, >> alex@unice.spb.ru, melvin.lopez@hfsinc.com, romka@ix.netcom.com, >> JStrupel@aol.com, alex@dbna.com Reads like a who is who in ... >>There is a computer virus that is being sent across the Internet. If you >>receive an e-mail message with the subject line "Good Times," DO NOT read >>the message, DELETE it immediately. Please read the messages below. Well, I have my doubts about ascii spreading viruses but here's one for the non-believers from : The Net Abuse FAQ 4.7) Hey, the "Good Times" virus-- ...is a total, 100%, long-proven hoax. For the complete story, see: http://www.nsm.smcm.edu/News/GTHoax.html >>virus has been engineered by a user of AMERICA ONLINE that is ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>unparalleled in its destructive capability. What's it called? The "account" virus? Or the "keyboard" virus? >>PASS THIS WARNING ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW -- DO IT NOW !!!!! Me too? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:02:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA00733 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA23201 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aluf.technion.ac.il (aluf.technion.ac.il [132.68.7.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA23197 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 06:00:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (nussbaum@localhost) by aluf.technion.ac.il (8.8.3/8.6.6) with SMTP id QAA24454 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:00:20 +0200 (IST) Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:00:20 +0200 (IST) From: Noam Nussbaum To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Build pine-h on AIX 4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi !! I tried to build pine3.95_heb2.07 on 4 by the command :"build a32". It built a new window with the title PROGRAM BUILDER which vanish afterwards. In the command-line the message was: check_tt_error: tt_default_session_set: TT_ERR_SESSION The session id passed is not the name of an active session. Exception Detected Obviously, in this operating system the command build a32 do nothing. Can you wrote me your opinion about this strange behaviour of AIX 4? Thank You. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA02290 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA25357 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:38:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA25353 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 07:38:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 02 Feb 97 16:38:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01253; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:57:18 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:57:18 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Richard Velez cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Richard Velez wrote: >looking for the ww mailing list. >how to get into internet services, it says no access. Maybe you should start off by trying to formulate whole sentences. That might help to enhance your recipients' understanding. Just my $.02 Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05124 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28200 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:56:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28196 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 11:56:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr7z3-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 11:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcb@alfa.ist.utl.pt (M P S) Subject: POP Client source for unix Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:05:00 GMT Message-ID: <5cqkbs$638@ci.ist.utl.pt> Hello. I'm looking for a pop3 client to compile on DIGITAL unix v4.0 if anyone sent me the source or pointed me a site holding it I would be much appreciated. 10x in advance Pedro Borges From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:19:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05197 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:19:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA27309 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:16:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA27305 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 12:16:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vr8Ha-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Please help us. Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:09:24 GMT Message-ID: References: <01bc108a$9fad5780$08be11cf@n8.diac.com> On 1 Feb 1997 21:42:34 GMT, Jessie Young wrote: > >Hello. My name is Jessie with DIAC, a local ISP in Denver and we are >looking for some info on Pine. For starters, does anyone know how to >pre-set the configuration for Pine so when a user uses it for the first >time that the domain and other info is already entered? Second, upon using >pine, .pinerc files are left in all of our user's directories. Is there a >way we can get them out of there? Are they mandatory? So you know, I am >measly tech and do not have a vast knowledge of UNIX, Pine, and Elm so if >these questions seem ridiculous, please excuse me. For global settings, you need to set up a pine.conf in /usr/local/lib. At a command prompt, type pine -conf > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf Then go edit that file, making sure to assign only those items which you want to be global. Make the file readable by all, and you should be set. The .pinerc files are automatically put into the user's directory, so that each user may be able to set up certain preferences. I don't know of any way, (or any reason), to prevent Pine from putting them there. You want to have a look at http://www.washington.edu/pine there, you should be able to find all the information you need about Pine. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I'm having an emotional outburst!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:26:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA06067 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA28096 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:23:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wolfe.net (mail1.wolfe.net [204.157.98.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA28092 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:23:10 -0800 Received: from 204.157.98.228 (sea-ts3-p46.wolfenet.com [204.157.98.228]) by wolfe.net (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA17959; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 13:24:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32F487EA.4212@wolfenet.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:26:18 +0100 From: Rebecca Blake Reply-To: rebeccaw@wolfenet.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: eddisc@speakeasy.org CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, barbara@fusioni.com, helixlm@aol.com, BOBDE@MICROSOFT.COM, bblythe@javanet.com, carolyns@mountaineers.org, daveb@delorme.com, David Egan , Andrea Pruneda , yurica@sol.racsa.co.cr, yurica@speakeasy.org, Evelyn , gbove@bih.harvard.edu, 74553.104@compuserve.com, jimh@scn.org, "discnw@speakeasy.org" , JEKEL@aol.com, justineb@pcc.celestial.com, Leslie7989@aol.com, Molly Morgan , della@u.washington.edu, zingzong@aol.com, "sammy@speakeasy.org" Subject: Re: Fwd: [Fwd: Re: Internet Virus] (fwd) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message has been circulating on the Internet for about 5 years and is a HOAX. It's a newbie trap. Sorry. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:34:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08362 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:34:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA00491 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA00487 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:31:34 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:03 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mliew@tiger.lsuiss.ocs.lsu.edu Subject: Re: Email message! Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f531c8244a002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 08:31:04 +0800 > I am one of the LSU email members, I just want to know whether the > e-mail > message that I sent to my friend can be deleted in his account or not? No, at least not by the originator. Of course you friend can delete it. > And also if it is still being kept in his account or not? No way to know...unless you ask your friend. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:55:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08062 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA01900 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:52:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA01896 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 16:52:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrCbM-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 16:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: .lock Date: 1 Feb 1997 19:58:10 GMT Message-ID: <5d078i$p6o@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Eric Coughlin wrote: >How would I go about unlocking this original folder or saving the >information in it. This is probably the remains of an old pine session which crashed. If so, I believe all you have to do is to remove the file with rm whatever.lock Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:20:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA08863 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:20:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA01021 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:17:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA01017 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 17:17:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrCys-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 17:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: corrupted folder Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:30:28 -0500 Message-ID: I have a corrupted folder that I hope I can turn back into a folder that Pine can understand. Here's what happened... it was on a VMS system and I selected all and then saved to a new folder on the VMS system (this is where I think the corruption happened but I didn't discover it at this point). Opened the new VMS folders and saved all to my PC and left a copy of each msg on VMS. Then I discovered that both the VMS and my PC version of this folder are corrupted. I thought that maybe I could use mbxcvt to fix things so I ftp'd the folder to a Unix account and here are some things that happen: When I try to open the folder with Unix pine I get: [Unable to parse internal header elements at 542: 58:57 +0000,1;000000000001] When I try to convert the folder to mtx format with mbxcvt I get: ?Unable to parse internal header elements at 542: 58:57 +0000,1;000000000001 Any help appreciated. BTW, has anyone noticed that VMS systems have trouble saving all messages from a big folder? Or maybe it's a problem with the IMAP server they're using (which I'm pretty sure is not the UW one). Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:41:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11218 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:41:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA04862 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:37:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA04858 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 19:37:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFA4-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 19:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:21:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <32F107A4.AAD@ishtar.med.jhu.edu> <5d1ppm$s4b@cabernet.niagara.com> On 2 Feb 1997 10:20:38 GMT, Patrick Bauer wrote: > >I also have this problem. The Linux user name that i use... differs from >the ISP user name... and so i must telnet to the ISP's server... in >order to send mail. > >>> I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via >>> IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name >>> than that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login >>> name is my local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the >>> correct one. >> >> I have an identical problem under Solaris 2.5. Any ideas? This is easily fixed. When you set up your remote inbox, add in your userid. It will still ask you for a password, but at least the username will be correct. # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, # {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders=remote {remote.machine.domain/user=user_id}INBOX, If you need to set up a Reply-To header, put it in the customized-hdrs entry: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when # composing customized-hdrs=Reply-To: Your Name -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi I'm having an emotional outburst!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:11:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11721 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:11:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA04049 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:07:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA04045 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:07:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFeo-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 20:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathy Burns Subject: can't open inbox Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:31:31 -0600 Message-ID: <32F264B3.1C9B3881@cyc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm running Pine 3.95. When I try to open the inbox, it says "Last message runs past end of file" and the inbox won't open. Any ideas what could be causing this and how to fix it? Reply by email (I have another mail program) or in this ng. Thanks! -Kathy ========================================== Kathy Burns Cycorp burns@cyc.com 512-342-4009 =========================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA08557 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA05320 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA05316 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 20:12:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrFiW-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 20:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: mbxcvt questions Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:03:25 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 31 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > * What else can be used for `newtype', e.g., what is used for > Berkeley mbox format? What about mh format? The types are the names of the c-client drivers; bezerk, mmdf, tenex, mtx, mbx, mx,... mh is a special case. You need to be set up for mh (with a .mh_profile file) and you also have to use the #mh namespace in the destination mailbox name. It may or may not work; personally, I wouldn't recommend it. > * How does mbxcvt know the format of the source_mailbox? The same way that Pine and imapd does, through the magic of c-client dynamic type recognition. > * Can I use mbxcvt to help me salvage a corrupted VMS-type folder? No. mbxcvt declines to deal with corrupt data. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:21:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11193 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:21:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05582 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA05578 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrHgn-00038hC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 22:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: .lock Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:41:03 GMT Message-ID: References: ecoughli@bu.edu (Eric Coughlin): > In Pine version 3.9 ... Hold it right there! How about upgrading to version 3.95 first? Btw, the message id of your post says that you are using v3.89. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:32:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13577 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA06981 for pine-info-out; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:28:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA06977 for ; Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrHoV-00038XC; Sun, 2 Feb 97 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: attachments Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:41:48 GMT Message-ID: References: tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues): > Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? How about using the "save" command? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:57:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15656 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA09259 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:52:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09255 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 01:52:43 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:50:38 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA13957; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:52:31 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:52:26 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: tgun@rage.hostile.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sven is wrong on this one: the correct command is "View" followed by "Save". The "Save" command simply saves a copy of your current message and any attachments it has to anbother folder, usually deleting it from the folder it is in at the moment (configurable, if memory serves). The "Export" command is related to the above, except it allows you to save a copy of the message "outside" Pine's folder system. In particular it is written/added to a file in your home directory (or some other place that you choose). The "View" command is used to view individual attachments from a message. Having given the View (V) command you will be shown a menu listing the attachments to the message. If Pine knows how to handle a particular type of attachment you will be offered the chance to view it there and then, otherwise you must save it to a file on disk. Note that _where_ the attachment is saved depends to some extent on whether you are using (UNIX) Pine or PC-Pine: UNIX Pine saves to your UNIX filestore, whereas PC-Pine will save direct to your micro's local hard/floppy disk. If you are using (UNIX) Pine and want the file on your hard/floppy disk you must: * Save the attachment to a file on your UNIX filestore * Quit Pine and run some sort of file transfer program (ftp? Kermit? X-Modem?) to transfer it down to your micro's disk. You _may_ be able to persuade Pine to do this directly if you have configured the following in its Setup Configuration screen: download-command = download-command-prefix = However I confess to never having used these and so am unfamiliar with them. In particular I don't know whether they apply to the entire current message, or can be applied to individual attachments. (I'm sure the builtin help system may reveal more information if you care to check it. ;-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 31 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues): > > Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? > > How about using the "save" command? > > Sven > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15856 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA09428 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:07:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09418 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:07:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:04:45 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA17176; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:06:43 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:06:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: AJF cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help! How do you send to more than one newsgroup? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, AJF wrote: > I want to send a post to several "comp" newsgroups. How do I do that. I was about to explain how to cross-post your article to more than one (appropriate!) newsgroup, but.... > Can I use wildcards? If I wanted to post to all newsgroups that start > with "comp" how would I do it without typing in each one. I tried using > *.comp.* and it didn't work. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, ...you just blew it by revealing you just want to send out spam. Sorry! -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:17:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15931 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:17:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA08290 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA08286 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 02:11:42 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:09:18 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA18418; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:11:13 GMT Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:11:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Alan J. Flavell" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple nntp servers? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Your precis of the situation is, as far as I understand things, correct. The one slight other snippet of information is that if IMAP is used to _read_ the newsgroups (instead of NNTP) then each server lists only its own newsgroups that you've subscribed to, not all of them. This is because an IMAP news connection keeps its state information on the IMAP server machine (hence per-server), whereas an NNTP connection keeps its state info at the client (Pine) end. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 1 Feb 1997, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > > As far as I understand it, I can configure PINE to access several > news-collections on multiple news servers, but it only supports > posting to the one nntp server that's configured in the nntp-server > configuration. The other collections are effectively "read-only". > > Obviously(?), one cannot post to a group that isn't supported by the > particular server that one has configured, even if it would otherwise > accept the posting. > > Also, when the news collections are displayed in the menu, under each > news server it lists the entire menu of groups subscribed to, regardless > of whether they are really available on that server. When you try to > access a group that the particular server does not support, it gives > error 411 No such group. > > Have I understood the supported options correctly, or is there some > feature that I've missed? > > As you may guess, I have read+post access to some limited-distribution > groups on a remote server, but need to access the rest of the normal > usenet groups repertoire via my normal server. > > thanks for any suggestions > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:13:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17238 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA09648 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:08:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA09644 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:08:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrN9A-00038hC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 04:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacek Kopecky Subject: Re: address book question? Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:58:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> On 24 Jan 1997, Azim Danesh wrote: > is there a way, when you send an email to a group in your address book, > the addresses of all the people in your group does not show up in > the TO: section? Yes, when writing a message press ctrl-r, it should give you "rich header" (if not, enable it in your configuration), then write the addresses in bcc: (blind carbon copy). Jacek Kopecky E-mail: jacek.kopecky@upol.cz WWW: http://www.upol.cz/~kopeckyj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:52:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17675 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA11354 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:48:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA11350 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 04:48:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrNmu-00038kC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 04:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g3836158@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Daranee Khamheang ) Subject: computer technology Date: 3 Feb 1997 06:12:11 GMT Message-ID: <5d3vjr$hjr@mars.mahidol.ac.th> I have just been a new number of Internet. Now I'm a student at Mahidol University in Thailand. I interested to write a thesis about Using Computer Technolgy for developed Learning. If you have data or knowledge about this.Please Tell me Email address on Internet:g3836158@mahidol.ac.th Thank you very much. Daranee. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:22:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA17737 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:22:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10392 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10388 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:19:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrODh-00038kC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 05:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) Subject: Re: black n white problem Date: 3 Feb 1997 13:12:09 GMT Message-ID: <5d4o79$lcc@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: > I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. >I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently >bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. >When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. >But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is black >and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea >how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is >black and the background is white the way it should be. >Please help me. > >Tracey A. Gaulrapp >Tracey@Asu.Edu >Graphic Design Program >Arizona State University NO, Tracey, YOU ARE WRONG. **NORMAL** TEXT **IS** WHITE TEXT ON BLACK BACKGROUND!!! THAT IS NORMAL FOR ALL COMPUTERS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. You must be using a god damn GUI -- probably Windows, right??? Ugh!!! It is the black on white shit that is "disturbing" -- it is VERY BAD on the eyes, causing eye strain. I can sit (and have) in front of a white on black background for hours with no problem whatsoever. Pine is SUPPOSED to be white on black background -- the NORMAL display for all computers. I cannot help you. Get rid of your damn GUI and start using DOS and/or Linux. GUIs are for little children and high school dropouts. Don -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:59:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA17379 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA12059 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:54:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA12055 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 05:54:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrOnn-00038hC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 05:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkrull@prairienet.org (Don Krull) Subject: Re: attachments Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:32:33 GMT Message-ID: <5d4lt1$kcq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: In a previous article, tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues) says: >Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? [ 2 replies telling him to use the Save or Export commands ] I don't think this is what he meant. "hard drive or floppy" implies his OWN PC. If he uses Save or Export, it will only keep the file on the UNIX system where he is logged in. The correct answer is: you must download the file to your own PC. There are two ways that you can do this. One way is to use Export to save the file in your work area of your UNIX account, then download the file after you exit Pine. (DON'T use Save here -- that won't work -- it only puts it into another mail folder.) You will have to do this for every e-mail message (tedious). The other way is to download the entire INBOX in one operation. This is what I do. I typed up a file with much greater detail on how to do this. It is, of course, specific to my ISP and may not be correct for yours; but if you want it, I will e-mail it to you upon request. Whichever method you choose, don't forget to delete the file(s) from your UNIX account once they have been successfully downloaded. Don -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:20:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA30646 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:20:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13131 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:15:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from NetUSA.Net (mail.NetUSA.Net [204.141.0.25]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13127 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:15:37 -0800 Received: from Alpha.NetUSA.Net (204.141.0.10) by NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vrQ7K-001vt4C; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:15 EST Received: from localhost by Alpha.NetUSA.Net with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0vrQ5y-001yXkC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:14 EST Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:14:10 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Velez To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: information In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We did not ask for your $.02 nor do we need it.That is probally all you have.We found someone who had $.03 who helped us. If you cant answer someone without being a smart ass,then just "SHUT UP". On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Richard Velez wrote: > > >looking for the ww mailing list. > >how to get into internet services, it says no access. > > Maybe you should start off by trying to formulate whole sentences. That > might help to enhance your recipients' understanding. > > Just my $.02 > > Robin > > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux.. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06473 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:21:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13175 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:17:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun.cc.westga.edu (sun.cc.westga.edu [160.10.4.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13171 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 07:17:09 -0800 Received: from kinki.cc.westga.edu.westga.edu (kinki.cc.westga.edu [160.10.36.136]) by sun.cc.westga.edu (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA15707 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <32F6016B.5B07@westga.edu> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 10:16:59 -0500 From: Nawaf Muallem X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: KOI8-R Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi: Is there a way for unix pine to read the russian character set (KOI8-R)? I am on a russian listserv and I keep getting the following text: ðÒÅÄÌÁÇÁÅÍ ÷ÁÛÅÍÕ ×ÎÉÍÁÎÉÀ åÖÅÄÎÅ×ÎÙÊ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔ éÓÓÌÅÄÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÓËÏÇÏ ÉÎÓÔÉÔÕÔÁ ÏÔËÒÙÔÏÊ ÉÎÆÏÒÍÁÃÉÉ (OMRI). åÖÅÄÎÅ×ÎÙÊ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔ ÓÏÓÔÁ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ÁÎÁÌÉÔÉËÁÍÉ ÎÁÛÅÇÏ ÉÎÓÔÉÔÕÔÁ É ×ÙÈÏÄÉÔ ÎÁ ÁÎÇÌÉÊÓËÏÍ É ÒÕÓÓËÏÍ ÑÚÙËÁÈ. ãÅÌØ ÄÁÊÄÖÅÓÔÁ - ×ÓÅÓÔÏÒÏÎÎÅ ÏÚÎÁËÏÍÉÔØ ÞÉÔÁÔÅÌÅÊ Ó ÔÅËÕÝÉÍÉ ÓÏÂÙÔÉÑÍÉ × ÓÔÒÁÎÁÈ ÂÙ×ÛÅÇÏ óÏ×ÅÔÓËÏÇÏ óÏÀÚÁ, Á ÔÁËÖÅ ÷ÏÓÔÏÞÎÏÊ, ãÅÎÔÒÁÌØÎÏÊ É àÇÏ- ÷ÏÓÔÏÞÎÏÊ å×ÒÏÐÙ. OMRI ÏÓÎÏ×ÁÎ × 1994 ÇÏÄÕ × ðÒÁÇÅ. üÔÏ ÎÅËÏÍÍÅÒÞÅÓËÁÑ Any help would be greatly appreciated appreciated. Thanks in advance. Nawaf Muallem (nmuallem@westga.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:46:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA26494 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16702 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA16698 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 10:39:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrTHK-00038XC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 10:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Using MH-style folders as incoming folders? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:00:00 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 31 Jan 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > Can MH-style folders be used as incoming folders? I have tried > identifiying MH-style folders with the "incoming-folders" paramter, > but when I press the Tab key from my INBOX, Pine doesn't move to the > MH-style folders that contain new messages. Is this possible? MH style folders can be used as incoming folders; however, MH format does maintain enough state to support new mail checking. The MH support in Pine is strictly for compatibility purposes; it is not recommended for any other purpose. MH does not support the capabilities needed for full Pine functionality. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:43:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA23722 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:43:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19614 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ACAD.LVC.EDU (acad.lvc.edu [207.87.96.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19610 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:36:12 -0800 Received: from campbell.lvc.edu by ACAD.LVC.EDU with SMTP; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:34:47 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <2.2.16.19970203143420.3d2fcaee@mail.lvc.edu> X-Sender: campbell@mail.lvc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sheryl A. Campbell" Subject: No "Quit" option on menu Cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, brickley@cac.washington.edu Hello list, Please forgive me if any part of this post is inapprorpriate to this user community. I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" the programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his menu. have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with anything. I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. I look forward to benefitting from your wisdom. Please reply to me at my personal address, since I am not a member of this list (Pine generally works so well for us that subscription isn't necessary!). I thank you in advance (and if this requires a summary, I'd be happy to post one). Regards, Sheryl % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % Sheryl A. Campbell Internet: campbell@lvc.edu % % Assistant Director Voice: (717)867-6060 % % Administrative Computing FAX: (717)867-6019 % % % % L E B A N O N V A L L E Y C O L L E G E % % % % Visit my Personal Web Page at % % http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/4407/index.html % % % % Never underestimate the power of a smile! % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % % From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:49:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA28340 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19867 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:44:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA19863 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:44:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrUIG-00038oC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 11:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: CC to another account. Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:19:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32F552F3.34D9@ipoline.com> Eddie Ng writes: > I have a UNIX account at school and an account from my ISP, I want to >be able to read all the mails in both of the accounts. I know making a >"/.forward" file will redirect all the email to a specific account to >the one specified in the ".forward" file but all the mail could not be >seen on that account. Is there a similar file that would send a Carbon >Copy (CC) to another account so that I can read the mails of the two >accounts at both accounts ? If your goal is just to be able to access all your mail easily from either of your accounts then IMAP* is one nice way to do this. In order to do this, both your accounts need to support IMAP access to mail folders and you need to use a client that understands IMAP, e.g., the great and powerful pine. On each of your accounts, edit your .pinerc so that it contains something like the following: incoming-folders={mail.ipoline.com/user=ngeddie}inbox, {mail.yourschool.edu/user=youruserid}inbox The above lines will allow you to access either of your inboxes when you go into the pine folder list (L). The next lines will all you to access your mail directory (and all the folders in it) from either system: folder-collections={mail.ipoline.com/user=ngeddie}mail/[], {mail.yourschool.edu/user=yourusedid}mail/[] Of course you need to edit the above lines to specify the correct servers and directories. Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) * IMAP, the best kept secret on the net! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:51:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01091 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:51:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23347 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:45:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23343 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:45:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrX4c-00038oC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 14:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Piel Jayce Subject: Change Reply-To adress Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 11:26:49 +0000 Message-ID: <32F5CB79.6F7D@cavalry.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I would like to know how can I change my Reply-To adress ? my problem : my actual adress is jpiel@*.unice.fr (clio for * is the standard) by using iname, I have a life-time email name : jayce@cavalry.com I would like to send my mail and that my Reply-to adress is jayce@cavalry.com Now, in the Setup, I can just change the Reply-To Host... anf then, the mails try to go on jpiel@cavalry.com ... please help me... -- -------------------------------------------- ! Jayce Piel ! ! ------------------------ ! ! Jayce on IRC... Percival owner ! ! see me on #Esterel #Jayce ! !------------------------------------------! ! WWW : http://www-mips.unice.fr/~jpiel ! !------------------------------------------! ! E-mail : jayce@cavalry.com ! -------------------------------------------- And don't forget I'm a MI : Macintosh Infantry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:26:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02331 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA26035 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:20:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA26028 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:20:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrXfI-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 15:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:23:35 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: > My mailcap file has the entry: > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:49:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA03069 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:49:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA26887 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA26881; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:44:49 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:16 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: campbell@lvc.edu Subject: Re: No "Quit" option on menu Cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu, brickley@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f6785001c9004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:20 +0800 > I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" > the > programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his > menu. > have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with > anything. > I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others > (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a > show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. On the menu at the bottom, do you see an O(ther commands) key? Does the Q(uit) command come around if you press the key a once or twice? If so, the person may be calling pine with some "initial keystrokes" such that the Q(uit) command is rotated off of the menu. Regards, ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02743 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA25492 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:45:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25488 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 15:45:20 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:21 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: dkrull@prairienet.org Subject: Re: black n white problem Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Tracey Gaulrapp X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32f6785601c9006@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 07:44:34 +0800 > > In a previous article, tracey@asu.edu (Tracey Gaulrapp) says: > > > I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. > >I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently > >bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. > >When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. > >But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is > black > >and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea > >how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is > >black and the background is white the way it should be. > >Please help me. > > > >Tracey A. Gaulrapp > >Tracey@Asu.Edu > >Graphic Design Program > >Arizona State University > > NO, Tracey, YOU ARE WRONG. **NORMAL** TEXT **IS** WHITE TEXT ON BLACK > BACKGROUND!!! THAT IS NORMAL FOR ALL COMPUTERS FOR AT LEAST 20 YEARS. > You must be using a god damn GUI -- probably Windows, right??? Ugh!!! > It is the black on white shit that is "disturbing" -- it is VERY BAD > on the eyes, causing eye strain. I can sit (and have) in front of a > white on black background for hours with no problem whatsoever. Pine > is SUPPOSED to be white on black background -- the NORMAL display for > all computers. I cannot help you. Get rid of your damn GUI and start > using DOS and/or Linux. GUIs are for little children and high school > dropouts. Well, this is certainly not a question of right or wrong. And it really isn't necessary to "SHOUT" at Tracey or belittle ones choice of using DOS, Win95, or even OS/2. The fact that a certain screen format may cause you eyestrain is not indicative of what it may do to another person. Anyway.... I suspect that the problem, undesireable shift in display mode, may be caused by the a control charater being interpreted by the terminal emulation program as a command to shift display mode. Without more information of what terminal emulation program is in use it will be hard to determine the next course of action. If possible, I'd suggest trying a different user's method of accessing the system and see if the problem persists. Regards, ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:05:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03491 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:05:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA25916 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA25912 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 16:00:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrYHT-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 15:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wilbur R. Johnson" Subject: Problem "gethostbyname".... Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:49:08 -0700 Message-ID: <32F67974.2C92@SANDIA.GOV> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the previous posting, we had a syntax error in pine.conf. Wilbur From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:44:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA06746 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA29003 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:40:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28996; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:40:52 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:40:25 +0800 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:40:25 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: campbell@lvc.edu cc: ford@cac.washington.edu, dillane@cac.washington.edu, riley@cac.washington.edu, Pine Info Subject: Re: No "Quit" option on menu In-Reply-To: <32f6785001c9004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I have a user who has no Quit option on his menu. When he presses "Q" > > the > > programs responds appropriately, however, it does not appear on his > > menu. > > have checked the archives for this list and have not come up with > > anything. > > I have double-checked our system set-up, confirmed it works for others > > (i.e., our system set-up -- Unix) and am stumped. Obviously, it's not a > > show-stopper, but something requiring a solution nonetheless. > > On the menu at the bottom, do you see an O(ther commands) key? > Does the Q(uit) command come around if you press the key a once or twice? > If so, the person may be calling pine with some "initial keystrokes" such > that the Q(uit) command is rotated off of the menu. Don't you just hate it when someone follows up their own messages? I answered this one when I wasn't using pine...shame on me. Anyway, from initial menu there is no Q(uit) command visible. You need to type O(others) to see the Q(uit) command. But it is there and active and a "natural". I don't believe there is a way to change the order of what appears on the screen. So, its not a bug....its a feature. Why show Q(uit) when everyone know it. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:58:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA07290 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:58:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA00756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:55:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA00752 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:55:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vra1p-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 17:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hikmat farhat Subject: wrong address Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 14:11:18 -0500 Message-ID: <32F63856.79BC@maxwell.chem.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i've been using pine for a while and i just found out that the message doesn't bounce back if put a wrong address i tried every option that has "bounce" in it but nothing worked. solution anyone? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:19:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA09479 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:19:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA01887 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:15:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA01883 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 20:15:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrcEu-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 20:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: disc exceeded Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:50:38 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 1 Feb 1997, sem wrote: > I was viewing the attachment of a file sent by my friend. I had to saved > the file into my folder in order to view that file. However, the file that > I saved had exceeded the quota. What should I do to clean the disc space. Perhaps you need to clean up your account a little bit. If you're on a UNIX system, you can use "rm file" to delete a file named "file". You can use "zip" or "gzip" to compress files. Type "man zip" and "man gzip" for command line parameters and more information. Hope this helps. Eric Tse [ E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ] WWW : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, CGI, JavaScript, Perl, Video games, Comics and more From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:04:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA10308 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA04865 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA04861 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:00:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrdtC-00038mC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 21:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: camera Subject: Re: receiving mail delivery call while in unix/linux talk cmd Date: 4 Feb 1997 03:21:47 GMT Message-ID: <5d6a0b$p3e@Holly.aa.net> References: <32EADAA1.2F25@ff.ccom.net> <5cf7lp$1n4@Holly.aa.net> <5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu> <5csl4l$roj@Holly.aa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article 5csl4l$roj@Holly.aa.net, camera said: > >In article 5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu, > hurry@imap2.asu.edu said: >> >>Usually, new mail messages messing up the display are not from Pine >>at >>all. They usually come from some mail-checking program. The most >>common >>is called Biff. To disable it, a user should type "biff n" at >>there >>command line. Of course, don't type the quotes. They could add >>this >>command to there login shells file so that it is always executed >>when >>they log in. The name of the file to add the command to is almost >>always >>either ".profile" or ".login". You simply edit this file and add >>the >>"biff n" command. Also, typing "biff" alone tells you whether it's >>on or >>not. Other than that, I don't have any ideas. >> >>-- >>Adam Myrow >> >> > >Thanks for the fast reply will tell U later if it does the job for >us.... > > > Thanks again it worked ......... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:56:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11553 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:56:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05659 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nsn.k12.unr.edu (nsn.k12.unr.edu [134.197.1.240]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA05655 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:53:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (sreid@localhost) by nsn.k12.unr.edu (8.8.4/8.6.12/UnixOps/Hesiod/(SDM)) with SMTP id WAA20320 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:49:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:49:18 -0800 (PST) From: Stuart Reid X-Sender: sreid@nsn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HP Printing problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have three HP Printers (600C, 660Cse, and OfficeJet 350), none of which will print e-mail from pine. My previous dot matrix printers worked fine. Is there something with the DeskJet printers that doesn't work with Pine? Help Please!!!! By the way the printers print everything else, no problem. They are on three different computers, all IBM, and all different speeds (66MHZ, 100MHZ, and 200MHZ). There must be a solution out there. Thanks for reading. Stuart Reid, Principal John A. Dooley Elementary "I am their leader, Henderson, Nevada I must hasten after them" (702)799-8060) fax (702)799-8076) e-mail sreid@nsn.K12.unr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:32:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA11552 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA04597 for pine-info-out; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:27:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA04593 for ; Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:27:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrfCi-00038nC; Mon, 3 Feb 97 23:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Wilbur R. Johnson" Subject: Problem "gethostbyname"..... Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 16:25:35 -0700 Message-ID: <32F673EF.35BE@SANDIA.GOV> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just compiled pine3.96 with patch-1 using both gcc and SUNWspro on a sparcstation5 running Solaris 2.5. I set the smtp-server="a good host name" verified through telent/ping nslookup etc.... I keep getting an 'Error sending: No such host as "a good host name"' when sending a mail message. I tracked it down to a failing call to gethostbyname. Has anyone seen this or has any suggestions??? BTW: The "a good host name" is the same as the IMAP server and this connection works! Thanks in advance. Wilbur Johnson Sandia National Labs Albuquerque, NM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:37:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13514 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA06182 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:34:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06178 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:34:12 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:26:46 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA25545; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:28:45 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:28:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Piel Jayce cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Change Reply-To adress In-Reply-To: <32F5CB79.6F7D@cavalry.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Piel Jayce wrote: > Hi, I would like to know how can I change my Reply-To adress ? > > my problem : > my actual adress is jpiel@*.unice.fr (clio for * is the standard) > > by using iname, I have a life-time email name : jayce@cavalry.com > > I would like to send my mail and that my Reply-to adress is > jayce@cavalry.com > > Now, in the Setup, I can just change the Reply-To Host... anf then, the > mails try > to go on jpiel@cavalry.com ... Ummm.... I'm not sure which thing you have changed here: was it the "user-domain" variable? (There isn't a "Reply-to Host" as standard.) Whatever it was I suggest you change it back to how it was and instead do this: 1. Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen. 2. Go down to the "customized-hdrs" variable. 3. If this does NOT have a "Reply-to:" value (possibly along with others) you need to add one (using the "A" (Add) command). If it DOES have a "Reply-to:" value you need to check/change the remainder of this. In particular you want to end up with something like this: Reply-to: Piel Jayce Adding the "Reply-to:" header will cause this header to be available for every message you send (it won't appear on the Composer screen by default; you need to put the cursor on a header line and type ^R). By also setting a value for the "Reply-to:" header (the "Piel Jayce " in the above) this will get set up by default as the value of the Reply-to: header for every message you send. Incidentally, are you sure that you haven't already got this working? Your question appeared on the comp.mail.pine/Pine-Info forum as having come from: Piel Jayce which is, I think, what you said you wanted to achieve? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:38:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07352 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA07661 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:36:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07651 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:36:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:32:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA26475; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:34:13 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:34:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: hikmat farhat cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wrong address In-Reply-To: <32F63856.79BC@maxwell.chem.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" There isn't anything that you can put in your message (or option to set within Pine) to ask that an undelivered message be bounced back to you (or not). This is purely a function of the intermediate and final mail delivery systems. That said, the default for such systems is usually to return undeliverable mail to the sender. The "bounce" options that you mention are nothing to do with returning undeliverable mail. Instead they are to do with a command (B - Bounce) that allows you to redirect a message you have received on to someone else, but making it appear (for reply purposes) as if it still originated from the original author rather than yourself. Specifically, the "enable-bounce-cmd" enables this Bounce (B) command; it is not available by default to avoid confusing new users. And the "fcc-on-bounce" option tells Pine to save a copy of a message you Bounce in any Fcc folder you have set up (the default is not to do so). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, hikmat farhat wrote: > i've been using pine for a while and i just found out > that the message doesn't bounce back if put a wrong address > i tried every option that has "bounce" in it but nothing worked. > solution anyone? > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:36:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14784 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA08874 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:32:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA08870 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrixt-00038rC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 03:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:19:09 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 30 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: :>On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Beth Protz wrote: :> :> >I have already tried contacting my local support staff, and could not get :> >any help. :> :>Have them fired. :> :> >Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? :> :>Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine :> There is also the source of two guides "Starting use of Pine" and a "User's Guide to Pine", so you will have source material in plenty. I give courses in Pine, and could be tempted to come to educate you :-) :> Source distribution: :> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z :> Pine Technical Notes, included in the source distribution. :> :> :> >Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, :> >and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! We've :> >basically been learning by trial and error. It's nice when you discover :> >something useful, but if you happen to do something wrong, you can create :> >your own personal nightmare!!! :> :>Possible, but not very likely to happen. Read the online help in the S(etup) :>C(onfig) Screen or have a look at the .pinerc. Everything is explained there :>briefly. For Thorough information, turn to the above address. Get the faq, :>make sure to read it thouroughly and there shouldn't be any problems. :> :>Cheers, :>Robin :> :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 :> Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 :> 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" :> ... so I got myself Linux. :>++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ :> :> :> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:46:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14867 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:45:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA07562 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA07558 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:42:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrj8J-00038rC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 03:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: pine3.95 and sparc linux Date: 4 Feb 1997 06:09:08 -0500 Message-ID: <5d75ck$m1i@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: <5co192$2sl@piston.ecp.fr> <32EF94A6.41C67EA6@uiuc.edu> C Lance Moxley wrote: : Eric Doutreleau wrote: : > : > I have just installed sprc linux ( Redhat distribution ) on a SS2 and i m : > trying to install : > pine-3.95. : > I got the following answers : > : > cc -c -g -Dlnx -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE osdep.c : > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 : > make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 : I did it, but I just grabbed the src.rpm from : RedHat and used that to start with. There are : a few patches that they made to get it to run. I'm afraid 'signal 11' is a much more ominous sign than that Pine 3.95 source needs some patch to get compiled under Sparc Linux. Not that patches are unnecessary but that signal 11 must have come from sort of hardware failure such as defect in SIMM module on the machine in question. There's a web page dealing with various reasons for 'signal 11', but I don't have URL handy at the moment. You may search for 'signal 11 and linux' with search engine. Jungshik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:42:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA15365 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA08383 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:39:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.unice.fr (shell.unice.fr [134.59.2.163]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA08379 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 04:39:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (jpiel@localhost) by shell.unice.fr (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA09510; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:40:05 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:40:03 +0000 (WET) From: Jayce Piel Reply-To: jayce@cavalry.com To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Change Reply-To adress In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Incidentally, are you sure that you haven't already got this working? > Your question appeared on the comp.mail.pine/Pine-Info forum as having > come from: > > Piel Jayce > > which is, I think, what you said you wanted to achieve? > > Cheers, > First, thanks a lot... Second, i haven't already got this working, for the other post, I used Netscape... :-) Now it works fine with pine... it's better... -------------------------------------------- ! Jayce Piel ! ! ------------------------ ! ! Jayce on IRC... Percival owner ! ! see me on #Esterel #Jayce ! !------------------------------------------! ! WWW : http://www-mips.unice.fr/~jpiel ! !------------------------------------------! ! E-mail : jayce@cavalry.com ! -------------------------------------------- And don't forget I'm a MI : Macintosh Infantry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA19756 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA13270 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:22:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (miavx1.acs.muohio.edu [134.53.7.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA13266 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:22:33 -0800 Received: from miavx1.acs.muohio.edu by miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (PMDF V5.1-5 #19147) id <01IF0NM4JXU891XEH1@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:22:27 EST Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: yorkam@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu Subject: help please! To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII my address is binkleaw@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu i am writing from a friends account because my account will no longer let me send... it says this...when i try to send: error starting mailer process:acp file create failed then it says: can't append to mailbox deadletter:no such file created i have tried deleting many of my old file and now i only have afew and it still will not work..what should i do to get it back on track..please write me back at my address thank you evry much for your time.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23168 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15584 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:59:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15580 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 09:59:52 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA11971; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:56:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:56:12 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: redhat-list@redhat.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using Red Hat Linux 4.0 + updates. Pine 3.95. I'm trying to use Pine 3.95 to connect to an IMAP server. It appears, though, that Pine is configured to attempt to use rsh to invoke rimapd before trying imap directly. (1) Why? (2) Is there a way to change this? My mail server isn't about to allow users to rsh into it. Having to wait 10 seconds for rsh to fail each time I attempt to access a new folder is rather annoying. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24666 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16920 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:54:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16916 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 10:54:10 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id NAA15815; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:18 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:50:18 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: redhat-list@redhat.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To answer my own question: set the "rsh-open-timeout" option in "$HOME/.pinerc" to "0": # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout=0 -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:06:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26969 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA18699 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:58:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA18695 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:58:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vrqqj-00038wC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 11:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morpheus@calweb.com (Steve Lamb) Subject: Re: Re-sending a message in Pine Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:35:21 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 11:14:47 +0000, Barry Landy in <> wrote: >No. Bounce is different (different headers); it may or may not be what >is wanted. Personally, I don't think one would worry about the extra headers. The two/from and bounced-to/bounced-from are the same, it means it was resent which is exactly what the original poster wanted. -- Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my PGP key upon request | skills and labor, not my opinions! ---------------------------------------+------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA27861 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA19624 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:35:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from multicomputo.multinet.com.co (multicomputo.multinet.com.co [206.114.27.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA19613 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 12:35:14 -0800 Received: from [206.114.27.88] by multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SMTPD32-3.02) id AC8091E012A; Tue, 04 Feb 1997 15:30:56 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970204233506.00669138@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> X-Sender: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 15:35:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: SOLON CACERES MORENO Subject: Last version of Pine Mail for SCO UNIX I wish to know where is the program PINE MAIL for SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2. I download the version 3.95 of pine mail and I have very much problems to compile with build clean build sco Please, do you can help me? Thanks SOLON CACERES MORENO (COLOMBIA) SOLON CACERES MORENO INGENIERO DE SISTEMAS UIS From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:58:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA30111 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:58:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA21804 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:52:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA21800 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:52:26 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA07588; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:40:50 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa11559; 4 Feb 97 22:15 WET Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa00877; 4 Feb 97 22:17 WET Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 22:17:09 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: SOLON CACERES MORENO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Last version of Pine Mail for SCO UNIX In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970204233506.00669138@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, SOLON CACERES MORENO wrote: > I wish to know where is the program PINE MAIL for SCO UNIX 3.2.4.2. I > download the version 3.95 of pine mail and I have very much problems to > compile with > build clean > build sco > > Please, do you can help me? Could you please provide us with some details on what goes wrong? It should compile just fine, providing you have the crypt supplement installed (the SCO Internation crypt supplement can be obtained as lng225b from ftp.sco.com in the directory SLS). You'll need this supplement if you get link errors on a function call containing the word "crypt". Should you decide to install the supplement, you'll have to manually execute the statement ln /usr/lib/libcrypt_i.a /usr/lib/libcrypt.a afterwards to get the correct library name for Pine. Again, please provide more details if things continue to go wrong. Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:39:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA00711 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22777 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22771 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 15:34:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vruBE-00038xC; Tue, 4 Feb 97 15:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moez Bali Subject: crosspost Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 21:40:49 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi pine users, I'm a new user and of course this will be the 10000 time you see these questions : - can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? - how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? thank in advance __________________________________________________ Moez BALI e-mail : bali@citi2.fr Unite INSERM U.467 Biophysique des transports epitheliaux Faculte de Medecine Necker-Enfants Malades 156, rue de Vaugirard 75730 Paris Cedex 15 Tel. +33 01.43.06.15.25 ; 01.40.61.56.26 Fax +33 01.40.61.55.91 __________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:15:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA02045 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:15:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA25580 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:10:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA25567 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:10:17 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 01:10:10 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA05012; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:08:09 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:08:09 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Moez Bali cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: crosspost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Moez Bali wrote: >I'm a new user and of course this will be the 10000 time you see these >questions : Good guess... >- can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? Read the FAQ. >- how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? Not at all... unless you've checked the message with the guys from net-abuse. If you still feel like doing it nonetheless, be prepared for nasty surprises. Cheers, Robin "Spam me and die" Socha ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:13:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA06002 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:13:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA02118 for pine-info-out; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:09:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from antartic.ccm.itesm.mx (antartic.ccm.itesm.mx [148.241.155.119]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA02114 for ; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 19:09:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by antartic.ccm.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA36000; Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:08:24 -0600 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:08:24 -0600 (CST) From: "RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my way. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:19:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA10467 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA04245 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:13:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ETSUVAX.ETSU-TN.EDU (ETSUVAX.etsu-tn.edu [151.141.8.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04241 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:13:18 -0800 Received: from ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu by ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu (PMDF V5.1-4 #16780) id <01IF1IQFKWZ68WXQVN@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu> for PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 03:13:10 EST Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 03:13:09 -0500 (EST) From: salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HELLO, I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? ANY AND ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. SINCERELY YOURS, LORA MCMILLAN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:26:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA10912 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:26:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA07001 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:22:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06997 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 01:22:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:18:30 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA27314; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:20:20 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:20:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Moez Bali cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: crosspost In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Moez Bali wrote: > > >- can I put the name of newsgroup in the adress book ? > > Read the FAQ. You can find this on the World-Wide Web at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/index.html Other information about Pine can be found at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > >- how can I post my message to two or more newsgroup ? > > Not at all... unless you've checked the message with the guys from > net-abuse. If you still feel like doing it nonetheless, be prepared for > nasty surprises. Ummm.... there are, of course, quite legitimate cases for posting an article to two or more newsgroups. (I do it with our local newsgroups when trying to move an off-group thread from one group to another.) To post an article to more than one newsgroup just list the newsgroup names with commas in between (this information is in Pine's built-in help somewhere, but apparently not in the obvious place: the description of the "Newsgroups:" header -- I'll suggest it to the Pine Team). However as Robin says, do use this facility wisely and in moderation: people don't like seeing the same article cross-posted gazillions of times. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:11:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11616 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:11:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA05826 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:08:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA05822 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:08:05 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:05:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA07576; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:07:15 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:07:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Stevers! Coile cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 using rsh for rimap rather than going for straight imap In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Just for further information... Setting the "rsh-open-timeout" to 0 is certainly one way of avoiding the attempted rsh opening of mail folders. (This variable can only be set by editing the .pinerc file; there isn't a way to do this from within Pine's own Setup Configuration screen.) Note, however, that this affects connections to all IMAP servers. If you are using some servers which do support rsh connections then you may instead prefer to leave the rsh-open-timeout alone. The attempt to rsh to the non-rsh'able servers can be suppressed _just for them_ by appending their IMAP port number to their hostname in your setup. The default port number for IMAP is 143, so a mailbox spec would then become something like: {imap.site.domain:143}inbox Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Steve Stevers! Coile wrote: > Using Red Hat Linux 4.0 + updates. Pine 3.95. > > I'm trying to use Pine 3.95 to connect to an IMAP server. It appears, > though, that Pine is configured to attempt to use rsh to invoke rimapd > before trying imap directly. (1) Why? (2) Is there a way to change this? > My mail server isn't about to allow users to rsh into it. Having to > wait 10 seconds for rsh to fail each time I attempt to access a new > folder is rather annoying. > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Steve Stevers! Coile wrote: > To answer my own question: set the "rsh-open-timeout" option in > "$HOME/.pinerc" to "0": > > # Sets the time in seconds that Pine will attempt to open a UNIX remote > # shell connection. The default is 15, min is 5, and max is unlimited. > # Zero disables rsh altogether. > rsh-open-timeout=0 > > -- > Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering > scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11087 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA06100 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA06093 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:48 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 11:26:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01565; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:44:25 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:44:25 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu cc: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997 salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu wrote: >HELLO, YEAH, HELLO YOU TOO!!! >I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. It's really good. Money seems to be quite tight, though. >I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL >PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a file called READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz e.g. by typing locate READ-MESSAGES if you're on a u*ix system. You cannot access this file via pine. You can read it, though, using either a new version of less or zless ( to make sure you have those, type "which less" "which zless"): less READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz would let you browse through that file using your cursor keys. If your system doesn't have less, use more or zmore respectively, but ask your sysadmin to install less. > SINCERELY YOURS, Sounds like a threat when shouted ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA11813 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:30:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA06096 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA06091 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 02:26:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 11:26:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA01502; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:33:39 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:33:39 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN wrote: >I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail >anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my >way. Thank you. Using the correct address-"style"? AOL-addresses are different from internet addresses. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:18:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA13501 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:18:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10113 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:14:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10109 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:14:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vs77T-00038oC; Wed, 5 Feb 97 05:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 19:36:28 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been receiving spam e-mail lately, and I wondered if putting a fake address with the Reply-to: header would resolve the problem. I'd use the From: header instead, but this site doesn't allow users to change it. Does anyone know if those spambots use Reply-to: at all, or do they only use From:, therefore making Reply-to: useless to avoid spam? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, STATUS, KI2, Pictures, etc } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/%7Ekings/ "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA13875 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:50:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA10530 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:47:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from knights.cc.ucf.edu (knights.cc.ucf.edu [132.170.246.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA10526 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 05:47:10 -0800 Received: from Pegasus.cc.ucf.edu(really [132.170.240.30]) by knights.cc.ucf.edu via sendmail with smtp (ident jmc78214 using rfc1413) id for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:41:05 -0500 (EST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #14 built 1996-Oct-22) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:43:23 -0500 (EST) From: Janice M Cooke X-Sender: jmc78214@pegasus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: viewing attachments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently had someone scan some pictures and attach them to an e-mail message. I saved them to a file and now I would like to view them. How do I go about doing that? Please help, they are pictures of my new nephew. Thank you, Janice From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:12:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA15102 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:12:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA11585 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:09:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dira.bris.ac.uk (dira.bris.ac.uk [137.222.10.41]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11581 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 07:09:13 -0800 Received: from njb.cse.bris.ac.uk by dira.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:08:40 +0000 Received: from localhost (ccnjb@localhost) by njb.cse.bris.ac.uk (8.8.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA01740 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:06:51 GMT Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:06:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Bruton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 4.0 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just wondering if anyone has any news on when the next version of pine (4.0?) might be available Thanks Nick From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:48:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18236 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:48:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA11438 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from multicomputo.multinet.com.co (multicomputo.multinet.com.co [206.114.27.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA11428 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:42:43 -0800 Received: from [206.114.27.79] by multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SMTPD32-3.02) id A77B2F60232; Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> X-Sender: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 11:47:27 -0800 To: rgering@ciint.nl From: SOLON CACERES MORENO Subject: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu thank you for help. The crypt library has been installed. I run: build clean and then i run: build sco The standard output received is: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D make args are "CC=3Dcc " Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=3DANSI OS=3Dsco echo sco > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make sco make mtest OS=3Dsco EXTRADRIVERS=3D"" \ STDPROTO=3Dmmdfproto MAILSPOOL=3D/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=3D/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=3D/usr/spool/new= s \ RSH=3Drcmd RSHPATH=3D/usr/bin/rcmd \ CFLAGS=3D LN=3D"ln" RANLIB=3Dtrue \ LDFLAGS=3D"-lsocket -lprot -lcrypt -lx" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lprot -lcrypt -lx > LDFLAGS ln os_sco.h osdep.h cc -c mail.c *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE attach.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE ansi.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE basic.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE bind.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE browse.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE buffer.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE composer.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE display.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE file.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE fileio.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE line.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE osdep.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE pico.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE random.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE region.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE search.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE spell.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE tinfo.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE window.c cc -c -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o= compose r.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o= search.o spell.o tinfo.o window.o word.o cc -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE main.c libpico.a -ltinfo= -lc - lc_s -lx -o pico cc -Dsco -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE pilot.c libpico.a -ltinfo= -lc -lc_s -lx -o pilot Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sco.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -DSCO -DSYSTYPE=3D\"SCO\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c *** Error code 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: bin/pico: 149108 + 34124 + 12372 =3D 195604 bin/pilot: 148140 + 34000 + 12372 =3D 194512 Done =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DEnd of standard= output=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D an the Errors Standard Output is: ------------------------------------------------------ ln: cannot create c-client ln: File exists ln: cannot create imapd ln: File exists mail.c osdep.h(44) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'syslog.h' attach.c ansi.c basic.c bind.c browse.c buffer.c composer.c display.c file.c fileio.c line.c osdep.c osdep.c(409) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= suppl ied osdep.c(467) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= suppl ied osdep.c(1748) : warning C4061: long/short mismatch in argument : conversion= supp lied pico.c random.c region.c search.c spell.c tinfo.c window.c word.c ar: creating libpico.a main.c pilot.c addrbook.c os.h(237) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'netdb.h' size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open -------------------------- End of Error Standard Output----------------------------- Newly, Thank you very Much SOLON CACERES MORENO (Colombia, South America) Sol=F3n C=E1ceres Moreno Coordinador de Sistemas de Informaci=F3n CDMB e-mail: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:50:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18294 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA11365 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:40:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA11361 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 08:40:28 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA51518 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:28 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11692 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:25 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:40:26 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > It's really good. Money seems to be quite tight, though. At least you still have some. Count yer blessings. > Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a > file called > READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz > e.g. by typing > locate READ-MESSAGES > if you're on a u*ix system. Robin is obviously one of those there Unix geek type individuals my mother warned me about. gnu-zip a sent-mail file? Huh? You have wierd sysadmins, Robin. Also, all the versions of Pine ever loaded on our Unix system here have had saved-sent-mail folder naming formats of something like sent-mail-month-year I don't think I've *ever* seen a 'read-mail-whatever' foldername. And yes, you should be able to access any monthly sent-mail folder from Pine's folder list. As to the less is more argument, well, whatever. Fun with Stupid Unix tricks, I guess. BUT! I COULD BE WRONG! (sounds rather pathetic when shouted, actually) Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:12:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA19298 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA14132 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA14128 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 09:08:41 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA42894 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:41 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA14349 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:39 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: problems (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, RICARDS J. LUKE J. LIN wrote: > I am using pine from Mexico City and I can't seem to be able to mail > anyone who is using AOL. If anyone has a suggestion, please send it my > way. Thank you. (Lea waves her hand frantically in the air. I do! I have a suggestion! Me! Me! Call on ME! Please.) How about a description of the actual problem? How do you know there's a problem and how do you know it's limited to AOL users? What error messages are you getting, if any, and if you're getting bounced mail, what kind of information is in the header? The more detail the better... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA17191 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13665 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA13659 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:03:27 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04311; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:44:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:44:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Janice M Cooke cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewing attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Janice M Cooke wrote: >I recently had someone scan some pictures and attach them to an e-mail >message. I saved them to a file and now I would like to view them. How do >I go about doing that? Please help, they are pictures of my new nephew. Your "new" nephew? What happened to the old one? *argl* Ok, the answer depends on the OS you're using. For Dos, Dos 3.x, Dos95 and Dos NT, there's quite a few free- or shareware viewers at http://www.yahoo.com Check the software, viewers section. Depending on what you want to do with the pictures, there are a couple of rather outstanding programs: Lview (versatile, fast, can r/w almost anything) ViewPro (good for movie files >;->) Thumbs Plus (if you have a *lot* of pictures [/me thinks .o0(any1 trdng"?)) Search (if you have a *lot* of pictures and want to make them accessible through www-pages). For real OSs (u*ices, that is), there's, e.g.: The Gimp Image Magick XView Check your favourite search-engine for those, e.g.: http://www.metacrawler.com What does that question have to do with pine? Why are there so many letters in the answer...? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA20929 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13672 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA13668 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 10:03:39 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 19:03:28 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA04248; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:29:55 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:29:54 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jago cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-to: and Fake Address to Avoid Spam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, Jago wrote: >I've been receiving spam e-mail lately, and I wondered if putting a fake >address with the Reply-to: header would resolve the problem. No. >I'd use the From: header instead, but this site doesn't allow users to >change it. Does anyone know if those spambots use Reply-to: at all, or do >they only use From:, therefore making Reply-to: useless to avoid spam? What a VERY strange idea... REALLY strange... Never mind - here's some URLs that should get you started. I just quickly c&p'd them together, but they should point in the right direction. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+/dev/null here--+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ A must-read imnsho is: http://www.cybernothing.org/faqs/net-abuse-faq.html For a rough article on forgery, originally constructed for this FAQ out of information contributed by Robert Bonomi, Arthur Byrne, Emma Pease, and Alan Bostick, see: http://sckb.ucssc.indiana.edu/kb/data/all.afco.html For more information on headers, see RFC-1036, "Standard for Interchange of Usenet Messages," at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/htbin/rfc/rfc1036.html The spamfaq describes how to find out where a fake post or e-mail originated from. http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Other resources that you might find useful: ++++++++++++++ Another good document is Tim Skirvin's Cancel Messages FAQ, which is available in HTML at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/cancel.html or in ASCII at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/cancel.faq ++++++++++++++ To answer all those questions about Richard Depew and others cancelling misplaced binary postings, Shaun Davis-Gluyas has compiled the Bincancel FAQ, at: http://ursula.uoregon.edu/~geniac/binfaq.txt ++++++++++++++ The news.admin.net-abuse.* charters are stored at: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/nana ++++++++++++++ There are a number of very good indices of net abuse-related documents: Fight Spam on the Internet! (Scott Hazen Mueller/Paul Vixie/others) http://www.vix.com/spam/ news.admin.net-abuse.* homepage (Tim Skirvin) http://www.math.uiuc.edu/~tskirvin/home/nana/ MaasInfo/Other/NetAbuse (Robert E. Maas) http://NCTUCCCA.Edu.Tw/documents/Internet/MaasInfo/Other/NetAbuse.html ++++++++++++++ If you're trying to cook up some funny procmail recipe in order to retaliate, check this: Axel Boldt maintains the world-renowned "Blacklist of Internet Advertisers" at: http://math-www.uni-paderborn.de/~axel/BL/blacklist.html ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ I was wondering if it might be a good idea to put a list of URLs together that deal with all the little things that people think Pine can do (although the FAQ says it can't). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA25726 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA17504 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:12:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA17492 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 12:12:30 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 05 Feb 97 21:12:22 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA06950; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:46:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 20:46:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Lea cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII :On Wed, 05 Feb 1997 salyer@ETSUVAX.ETSU-Tn.Edu shouted: :HELLO, :I NEED INFO ABOUT THIS END OF THE MONTH SITUATION. : :I USED THAT OPTION AND NOW HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL :PLEASE TELL ME IS THERE ANY WAY TO RETRIEVE MY MAIL? :ANY AND ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Lea whined: >On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Hmm, you could have it resent. Or you could check your Mail folder for a >> file called >> READ-MESSAGES-jan-1996.gz >> e.g. by typing >> locate READ-MESSAGES >> if you're on a u*ix system. > >Robin is obviously one of those there Unix geek type individuals my >mother warned me about. /---> flame on Actually, he's one of those there Unix geek type individuals your mother should have sent you to to learn some computer basics, I guess... >gnu-zip a sent-mail file? Huh? You have wierd sysadmins, Robin. I'm *not* weird! >Also, all the versions of Pine ever loaded on our Unix system here have >had saved-sent-mail folder naming formats of something like >sent-mail-month-year Sure. And if you keep collecting them, you'll be every sysadmin's darling. And if yall there at UAlberta.CA go ahead and do that, hard-drives will become pretty expensive soon, due to world-wide shortages caused by Californian students ignorant of compression tools. >I don't think I've *ever* seen a 'read-mail-whatever' foldername. From the .pinerc # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder="READ-MESSAGES" >And yes, you should be able to access any monthly sent-mail folder from >Pine's folder list. If you're enough to keep them uncompressed - yes. I'll talk to your sysadmin to give you a quota to stop this &/)(!&%. >As to the less is more argument, well, whatever. Fun with Stupid Unix >tricks, I guess. As opposed to what? 3rd class sarcasm, spiced with some half-digested knowledge from ages long gone? Or are we trying to make fun of other people on the grounds of profound experiences with advanced OSs like Windows? Been hacking away at some fancy Visual Basic ++ lately? >BUT! I COULD BE WRONG! She said "but". She also said: '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet Anyone got any suggestion how those could be sensibly linked to each other? One that won't get you locked away for a *long* time? flame off ---->/ Ok, there seems to be a slight misunderstanding. The original post didn't shout anything about "sent" or "read" messages. It said: HAVE LOST ALL MY PRIOR E-MAIL, so that could be both. As for the gzip-files, those are in fact my own divination, used for storing large amounts of mail. I open pine with a shell script that opens and closes certain folders "on the fly". So the truth is buried beneath tons of hate-mail: The mail is stored in folders labelled -month-year, be that sent-mail, read-messages or something your sysadmin made up. Locate should still work, or find -name "" -print invoked from your home dir. If you your pine moves those folders to a directory different from your Mail-dir, you won't be able to access those files with pine, except by setting up a folder collection (see tech-notes). Can you live with that, Lea? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:34:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28832 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:34:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA22574 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:29:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA22560 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 14:28:58 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:40:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:51:08 -0500 From: SandraB To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: feature-level:sapling In-Reply-To: <1137cd$c2430.da@news.sfasu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Feb5.164057est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.93 Wed Feb 5 16:38:41 1997 feature-level : sapling I'm curious at to what this feature-level means. I've noticed this in many debug files sent to this group for help purposes and I clipped this from my own .pine-debug file. Where does this feature get set? At what point, if any, does this level change from a sapling to a *bigger tree*? I've looked in the tech-notes and can't find anything on this. Can anyone give me the details? Thanks! ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:11:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30204 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22610 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:07:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tellab5.tellabs.com (tellab5.lisle.tellabs.com [138.111.243.28]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22606 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:07:35 -0800 From: davids@tellabs.com Received: from sunk42.tellabs.com by tellab5.tellabs.com with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #4) id m0vsGRB-0004fFC; Wed, 5 Feb 97 17:07 CST Received: by sunk42.tellabs.com (4.1/1.9) id AA06163; Wed, 5 Feb 97 17:07:32 CST Message-Id: <9702052307.AA06163@sunk42.tellabs.com> Subject: Which file? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:07:32 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings! I am trying to run pine from my unix account and do not know which file to download from the ftp site. I downloaded pc-pine for windows and seem to have trouble getting it started. I really want the unix version instead. Please specify which file to get. Thanks Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:52:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA01440 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:52:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26397 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from upsmot02.msn.com (upsmot02.msn.com [204.95.110.79]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26393 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:48:29 -0800 Received: from upmajb04.msn.com ([204.95.110.81]) by upsmot02.msn.com (8.6.8.1/Configuration 4) with SMTP id RAA26322 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:45:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 97 01:40:30 UT From: "A.J. Luthra" Message-Id: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using Pine 3.95 with MSN? Is it possible to use Pine 3.95 for Windows 95 with The Microsoft Network? If so, what are the configuration settings? Thanks, A.J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:34:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05475 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:34:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA00998 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:30:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acmex.gatech.edu (acmex.gatech.edu [130.207.165.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA00994 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:30:39 -0800 Received: from r77h18.res.gatech.edu (r77h18.res.gatech.edu [128.61.77.18]) by acmex.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA28002 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 00:30:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970203052941.0066e84c@pop.prism.gatech.edu> X-Sender: gt6617b@pop.prism.gatech.edu (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 00:29:41 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brannon chapman Subject: test testes, testes, 1, 2, 3 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:56:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05951 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:56:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA00392 for pine-info-out; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA00388 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:10 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA01594; Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: SandraB cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: feature-level:sapling In-Reply-To: <97Feb5.164057est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Long ago and far away, Pine had only a small number of features, and they were grouped into a couple of cute categories like "sapling" and "old growth". This model didn't scale very well, so now Pine has individual features. In other words, the "feature-level" variable is now obsolete. -teg On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, SandraB wrote: > > > Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.93 > Wed Feb 5 16:38:41 1997 > > > > feature-level : sapling > > I'm curious at to what this feature-level means. > I've noticed this in many debug files sent to this group for help > purposes and I clipped this from my own .pine-debug file. > > Where does this feature get set? At what point, if any, does this level > change from a sapling to a *bigger tree*? I've looked in the tech-notes and > can't find anything on this. > > Can anyone give me the details? > > Thanks! > > ************************************************************************ > Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com > Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 > People often find it easier to be result of the past > than a cause of the future. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:27:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09704 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:27:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA05298 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvino.alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA05294 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 03:23:19 -0800 Received: (from ice@localhost) by calvino.alaska.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id CAA15048 for Pine-Info@Cac.Washington.Edu; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 02:22:19 -0900 (AKST) X-Authentication-Warning: calvino.alaska.net: ice set sender to ice-bbs!steve.howe using -f >Received: by ice-bbs.net (0.99.950303) id AA04039; 06 Feb 97 02:20:26 -0900 From: Steve.Howe@ice-bbs.net (Steve Howe) Date: 06 Feb 97 02:16:34 -0900 Subject: eXpunge! Message-ID: <2b5_9702060220@ice-bbs.net> Organization: ICE BBS Network Internet Gateway To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Content-Type: text please tell me that i can use a "disk editor" or some data recovery service to recover lost email that was "eXpunge"d with PINE 3.95 on FreeBSD 2.1.5 !!! it's desperately needed for a legal matter! i haven't used the disk (hard drive) since the eXpunge, although i have booted the machine once. i hope no "log files" have over-written the previous data. can you please adivise me what to do? i don't have a disk editor currently on the machine, and would be scared to get one and put it on the drive. this is VERY important that i recover the data! please tell me it's possible !!! thanks much! -- | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:45:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA14872 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:45:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09152 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chicoma.la.unm.edu (chicoma.la.unm.edu [198.59.97.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA09148 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:39:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by chicoma.la.unm.edu via SMTP (950413.SGI.8.6.12/951211.SGI) for id JAA02967; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:39:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:39:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Allison G. Weeks" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine folders Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one time? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:50:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA16996 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:50:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA10707 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:43:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA10703 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 09:43:02 -0800 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA01188; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 18:01:54 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa00506; 6 Feb 97 17:48 WET Received: from localhost by pulsar.ciint.nl id aa19178; 6 Feb 97 17:49 WET Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:49:58 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: SOLON CACERES MORENO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, SOLON CACERES MORENO wrote: > thank you for help. > > The crypt library has been installed. > I run: > > build clean > > and then i run: > > build sco . . > an the Errors Standard Output is: > > ------------------------------------------------------ . . > osdep.h(44) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'syslog.h' . . > os.h(237) : fatal error C1024: cannot open include file 'netdb.h' Judging from these missing files it would seem that you don't have the TCP/IP development system installed. To check this, execute the command "swconfig | grep TCP". Its output should be similar to the following: SCO TCP/IP Development System 1.2.1i installed SCO TCP/IP Runtime System 1.2.1o installed In the "good" old days, SCO had you buy the SCO TCP/IP development system separately from the generic development system. It looks like this additional product was never purchased/installed on your server. Oops... You can try to obtain the TCP/IP Development System for 3.2v4.2, but this can prove difficult since that product has officially been withdrawn as of January 1st 1997. Some dealer might still have one on stock, though. Alternate solutions: - If 3.2v4.2 is a requirement, you can still get the Desktop Development System (version 3) which should include TCP/IP. Unfortunately, you also need SCO Desktop or SCO Enterprise version 3. Expensive! - Upgrade to SCO OpenServer 5 with its development system. These days the development system includes TCP/IP :-) Not very cheap either. - If what you are trying to do is non-commercial/you are a student/you are doing this privately, you can get an OpenServer 5 Desktop system WITH its development system for free(!) Even though we are talking about a Desktop system and not a server, the TCP/IP code should still be part of the Development System. Check out www.sco.com. Then again, your TCP/IP development system might simply be laying in a closet under a load of dust just waiting to be installed :-) I hope this information can get you a bit further. Good luck! Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA21122 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:11:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15847 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:06:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu [134.129.105.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15841 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:06:55 -0800 Received: from [134.129.3.84] ([134.129.3.84]) by sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA02380 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:06:51 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:06:51 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199702062006.OAA02380@sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu> From: "Sarah Barendt" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ???? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. Sarah Barendt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA22541 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15721 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:38:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us (clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us [198.234.201.98]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15717 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:38:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (mzelina@localhost) by clarus.cd.pvt.k12.oh.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA28505 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us>; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:36:44 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:36:44 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Zelina Reply-To: Mike Zelina To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us Subject: Deletion Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to find out how I can delete some of my messages. I have 21 and need to get rid of some. I have marked each one of them for deletion, and they all have the letter D to the left of them but they never dissapear. How can I permenately get rid of my messages? Many Thanks, Mike Zelina, Columbus Ohio From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:52:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA22824 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:52:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA16004 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:47:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA16000 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:47:06 -0800 From: sphinx@vvm.com Received: from ns.vvm.com (ns.vvm.com [204.71.94.1]) by ns.vvm.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA03217; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:01 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:47:00 -0600 (CST) To: Sarah Barendt cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ???? In-Reply-To: <199702062006.OAA02380@sendit.sendit.NoDak.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You'll need to get a Email program that supports MIME. There is no mime decoder that I know of.. All (that I know of) of Microsoft's Products support MIME. I recommend upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0, which comes with a good Email program that supports MIME. -Mike -VVM On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Sarah Barendt wrote: > Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently > received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be > very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. > > Sarah Barendt > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA23645 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:15:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17658 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:09:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17650 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:08:57 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id NAA15264; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:06:59 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Phone Company Internet Service Charge Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got this forwared to me yesterday. Thought I'd pass it along so everyone can write and tell them we don't want per-minute Internet charges from the phone company, as that would kill much of the activity that makes the Internet so great. ----------------Forwarded message follows------------------------ I am writing you this to inform you of a very important matter currently under review by the FCC. Your local telephone company has filed a proposal with the FCC to impose per minute charges for your internet service. They contend that your usage has or will hinder the operation of the telephone network. It is my belief that internet usage will diminish if users were required to pay additional per minute charges. The FCC has created an email box for your comments, responses must be received by February 13, 1997. Send your comments to isp@fcc.gov and tell them what you think. Every phone company is in on this one, and they are trying to sneak it in just under the wire for litiagation. Let everyone you know here this one. Get the e-mail address to everyone you can think of. Internet and Interstate Information Services In its Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on interstate access charge reform, released on December 24, 1996, the Commission sought comment on how FCC rules can provide incentives for investment and innovation in the underlying networks that support the Internet and other information services. The Commission made no specific proposals, but tentatively concluded that providers of information services (including Internet service providers) should not be subject to the interstate access charges that local telephone companies currently assess on long-distance carriers. Comments in response to the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking are due on January 27, 1997 and reply comments are due on February 13, 1997. At the same time, the Commission initiated a Notice of Inquiry contained in Section X of the same document to examine the more fundamental issues about the implications of emerging data services for the public switched telephone network. In the Notice of Inquiry, the Commission sought comment on the effects of increasing Internet usage on the network, alternative technologies to alleviate network congestion and provide higher bandwidth, and how FCC actions could facilitate efficient deployment of such technologies. Comments in response to the Notice of Inquiry are due on February 21, 1997, and reply comments are due on March 24, 1997. Parties that wish to file formal comments in these proceedings should follow the procedures set forth in the Access Reform Notice. General information on filing comments with the FCC is also available. Individuals or organizations that wish to submit informal comments electronically in response to the Access Reform Notice may use the Commission's e-mail box, access@fcc.gov. The docket number for this proceeding is CC Docket Number 96-262. The Commission has also established an e-mail box, isp@fcc.gov, for informal public comments on issues related to the Internet and information services. The docket number to reference for this proceeding is CC Docket Number 96-263. A little background.... Way back in 1983, the FCC exempted "enhanced service providers" from telephone per-minute access charges. This was to encourage the development of data (as opposed to voice) services. Internet Service Providers such as EasyStreet are considered "enhanced service providers" so we do not pay per-minute access charges for our phone lines (the lines you call in to). This is now.... The RBOCs (Regional Bell Operating Companies - USWest, etc) have now asked the FCC to charge "enhanced service providers" for per-minute access charges. They claim that there's no longer any need to encourage data services and that the huge increase in Internet usage is causing them be build new, unplanned for, infrastructure. These charges could be as much as $1.00/hour of connect time. Most likely, these charges would be passed on to users (you). Thankfully, the FCC is asking for informal user comments. They even have an e-mail address for your comments. We encourage you to make your opinions known. FCC website http://www.fcc.gov FCC website on this proposed rule making http://www.fcc.gov/isp.html FCC e-mail address for comments isp@fcc.gov ------------------ End of forwarded message ------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:18:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA14598 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17720 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:12:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17716 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:12:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 06 Feb 97 22:12:04 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02934; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:59:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:59:29 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Allison G. Weeks" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: >is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within >pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own >choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal >etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one >time? 1. You don't want to save those messages, but fcc: them instead - folder carbon copy. In order to do this, you need to take the address book and fill in an fcc: for the respective person. Pine will then ask you if it should create a folder next time you send this person a message. 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a filtering program. Check: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de for: pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. There exists a mailinglist for questions relating to any program in the procmail package: for submitting questions/answers. for subscription requests. 3. The only limit you might have for storing messages is the size of your hdd - physical or virtual. Check the free space with df or quota or check the space your directories take with du Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:48:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24759 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:48:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18561 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:41:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from unixg.ubc.ca (mail.unixg.ubc.ca [137.82.27.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18554 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:41:14 -0800 Received: from netinfo2.ubc.ca (netinfo2.ubc.ca [137.82.27.44]) by unixg.ubc.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00573 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:39:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 13:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: anne powell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A Problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent mail. So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized it already. Sincerely, Anne Powell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:29:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA25357 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19547 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:22:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA19543 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:22:29 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 06 Feb 97 23:22:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA03644; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:17:13 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:17:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: sphinx@vvm.com cc: Sarah Barendt , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Feb 1997 sphincter@vvm.com wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Sarah Barendt wrote: >> Please send me some information on hoe to DECODE a MIME message. I recently >> received one and I'm not sure how to go about reading it. this would be >> very helpful to me. Thanks for your cooperation. >You'll need to get a Email program that supports MIME. You need Bellcore's metamail package. It comes with a mailcap file which lets you link an application to a certain kind of mime-message. E.g., it allows you to start lynx when someone has used an ADVANCED Email system like Microsoft Explorer to compose FANCY and MULTIMEDIAL Email messages. >There is no mime decoder that I know of.. All (that I know of) of >Microsoft's Products support MIME. In particular, I'd recommend qbasic and Excel. They're GREAT for reading and writing MIME mail (Mickysoft Internet Mail Eczema). Plus, they're fully binary-combatible to all platforms available: Intel, Intel and Intel. >I recommend upgrading to Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0, which comes >with a good Email program that supports MIME. I've never come with that program, but I'm sure you got one hell of a kick out of it. While we're at it - what program do you want to upgrade from today? Regedit.exe? And what exactly is that "good Email program that supports MIME" called? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:30:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA25968 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:30:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA18760 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:24:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA18754 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 14:24:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA14652; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:22:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:22:20 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: anne powell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It must be something in your setup. I am using 3.94 on Solaris 2.5 and the "reply" command does not include my address. Jim Amanatidis Tel: 516-576-2329 Email: jima@aip.org Fax: 516-349-7669 On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, anne powell wrote: > Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, > improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know > how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is > that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the > relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it > asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. > However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in > now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just > take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no > reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent > mail. > So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized > it already. > Sincerely, > Anne Powell > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:20:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA28349 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA21515 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA21498 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA093474397; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Jeff D. Hinds" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT Jeff D. Hinds wrote: > When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. > This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large > distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when > sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. > Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? I have the same problem on two of my systems; Sometimes it takes three to five minutes for a small message to be sent. I still have the old version of pine, 3.91, on my HPUX system. When I run the old pine I encounter no such problems or delays in sending messages. I have Pine3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box and a BSDI2.1 box as well. The BSDI box has no problem or delay, but the Solaris box has the same problem and delay as the HPUX system. I appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thank you, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA32142 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA26324 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:23:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA26320 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 19:23:44 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:23:17 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mzelina@cd.pvt.k12.oh.us Subject: Re: Deletion Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32faa02608dc002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:23:19 +0800 > I am trying to find out how I can delete some of my messages. I have 21 > and need to get rid of some. I have marked each one of them for > deletion, > and they all have the letter D to the left of them but they never > dissapear. How can I permenately get rid of my messages? Try X as is eXpunge. While you are at it you may as will try using the context sensitive help and read the help menus. You'll be glad you did. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:31:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02422 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:31:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29114 for pine-info-out; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:20:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lw1.vsnl.net.in (lw1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.31.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29104 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:20:12 -0800 Received: by lw1.vsnl.net.in; id AA19341; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:49:54 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:49:54 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem facing while composing the messages .... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:22:26 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 giasnd01.vsnl.net.in (smtpl)... 550 Host unknown 554 ... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) ----- Unsent message follows ----- Received: by lw1.vsnl.net.in; id AA20344; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:17:34 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:17:34 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@giasnd01.vsnl.net.in Subject: problem while composing the message by us. (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 15:30:28 +0000 (GMT) From: ismail To: helpdesk@lw1.vsnl.net.in Subject: problem while composing the message by us. dear sir, we regret to write you that whenver we are openning to compose any message the following text is automatically paears, how we should remove this from compose file. pls help and advise us, as every time we have to spent a lot of time to cut the text and then type the new desired message. upper india tannery / kanpur / india ------------------------------------- the following message is automatically appearing :- _____________________________________________________ eeing youir e-mail on 03.2.97 I have got the form mailed to you again through same bloody courier co vide C.N.No.D-27172158. Pray it has been received by you Inshaallah. You are well aware that for urgent matters like receipt of H.P.S.Forms and Apeda Membership certificate forms youi must not rely only on e-mail. If your e-mail is not responded within 24 hours of its despatch please be sure that there is some problem either at your or our end. Regards syed Ahmad. P.S. I have right now been told by First Flight Couriers Ltd. that the courier containing Hamdard School Forms have been delievered at your office on 29.01.96. I will try to send you the photocopy of P>O>D. if i could get from them. Is'nt it strange? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:17:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03536 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA02243 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:14:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02239 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:14:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:11:08 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA20815; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:13:08 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:13:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "Allison G. Weeks" cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Could I just expand on some of Robin's comments about folders in Pine a little... On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: > > >is there any way to construct new folders for my saved messages within > >pine? I would like to be able to save my messages in catagories of my own > >choosing ie. one folder for stuff sent to me for school, one for personal > >etc. Also, is there any limit to how many messages i can store at any one > >time? > > 1. You don't want to save those messages, but fcc: them instead - folder > carbon copy. In order to do this, you need to take the address book and fill > in an fcc: for the respective person. Pine will then ask you if it should > create a folder next time you send this person a message. This is for messages you send out to others and for which you want to keep copies. A number of people do this by cc-ing a copy of the message to themselves (by putting their own e-mail address in the "Cc:" header field of the message). However a much more efficient way is to use the "Fcc" trick Robin mentions. "Fcc" (File Carbon Copy) simply saves a copy of the message straight to the specified folder. Compare this with Cc, which e-mails you a copy of the message (perhaps involving delays if your mail server is overloaded) which then arrives back in your INBOX along with all the other messages you receive. It is then up to you to Save it to a folder. Much simpler to use Fcc and just put it straight into the folder automatically as the message is first sent. If you just want to save the occasional outgoing message you can do this by putting the cursor on the any of the header lines of th emessage you're composing and then typing ^R (Rich Headers). This shows you _all_ the headers that are available to you to set. One of these is the "Fcc:" header, into which you can type the name of a folder (see below). If you can't remember the folder name you can use ^T (To Folders) to dispay them and pick one using the cursor keys. If, however, you want to save copies of most/all of your outgoing messages then it is best to set up a default fcc folder. Every message you then send will then have a copy saved to this folder. You set this up in Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) by giving the name of the folder to use (often "sent-mail") as the value for the "default-fcc" variable. If you occasionally send a message you _don't_ want saving in this folder (perhaps it has a very large file attached to it) then use the ^R trick mentioned above to see the Rich Headers when composing your message and _delete_ the (default) folder name from the "Fcc:" header line. Of course you can also do this to specify some other folder to save the message to instead. One last neat trick in this area is in the Address Book. For each entry in your Address Book you can, if you wish, set up an Fcc value. If you send a message/reply/etc to this person (and they are the first e-mail address mentioned in the "To:" field) this folder will be used for the Fcc copy instead of the default folder. This helps you automatically file outgoing messages sent to a colleague into the folder you keep for use with their messages. > 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a > filtering program. Check: > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de for: > pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. > There exists a mailinglist for questions relating to any program in the > procmail package: > for submitting questions/answers. > for subscription requests. Actually you only need procmail (or filter, or any of the other foltering programs) if you want to direct incoming messages into folders _as they arrive_ (ie, before you've even read it). This can be useful at times if, for example, you're a member of several busy mailing lists. Using procmail you can direct messages from each list into a separate folder just for that list and read them later at your leisure. Indeed, you can even set Pine up to "know" about these alternate incoming folders by editing its .pinerc settings file and listing the folders' names as the value of the "incoming-folders" variable. Then, when you reach the end of one of these incoming folders (eg, your usual INBOX), you can just press the Tab key for Pine to automatically check the other incoming folders for recent mail; if it finds any it will offer you the chance to read it. If you are happy with receiving mail just in your INBOX (a lot of people are) you might perhaps be asking just how to (manually) save messages to folders to keep for later reference. This is very easy: * Just read the message (or put your cursor on it in the Index screen), then * Type S (Save). This will ask you for the name of a folder to store the message in. Just type in the folder name and press Return: the message will be saved into it. If you can't remember the folder name type ^T and Pine will show you a list of all the existing folders and let you pick one with the cursor keys. * If you type in a name of a folder which doesn't exist Pine will offer to create it for you (this is how you make a new folder). You can see what folders you have, open them, rename them, delete them, etc, in the List Folders screen (give the L command at most screens: Main Menu; Index screen; message reading screen; etc) Further reading: The built-in help in some of Pine's screens: * The Main Menu * The Folder List (L command's screen) * The Folder Index (I command's screen) > 3. The only limit you might have for storing messages is the size of your > hdd - physical or virtual. Check the free space with > df > or > quota > or check the space your directories take with > du "df" tells you the amount of free space left on your computer's various disks (you may not be allowed to use some of the disks, or all of the space on a particular disk!). To just check "your" disk (where your current directory lives) try: df . which will omit all the other disk drives, perhaps making it easier to see which figure applies to you. "quota" warns you if you have exceeded your normal storage allowance on the disk drive, as set by the manager of your computer system. If you are under this normal allowance it just doesn't say anything (at least, on most systems). To see how much quota you have in use try adding the "-v' option to the command: quota -v By the way, be warned that your computer _may_ use different units for the figures given by df, du and quota. For example on our systems df and du reports in "blocks" (where 1 blobk = 512 bytes = 0.5 Kb for our disks), but quota reports in Kb. This can confuse people who think that du and quota are reporting wildly different usage figures, when in fact they should be pretty close/identical. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:32:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04341 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:32:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA02388 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:29:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02384 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 02:29:26 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:27:05 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA26342; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:29:11 GMT Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:29:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: anne powell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine figures out "your" e-mail address by following various rules to generate it from your username, the name of the computer you are using, and perhaps some things set up by the System Manager who set Pine up for your computers. However it may be that what Pine has figured out doesn't quite match the e-mail address used by the messages being delivered to you. (For example, my proper e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk" but some other computer names work for me to, and I also have some other usernames set to forward their e-mail to me.) Try sending your self a message and checking very carefully the e-mail address shown in the "From:" and "To:" headers when it arrives. This may be different (even very slightly is enough) from what Pine thinks is your e-mail address; because the don't match exactly it then assumes the other address is of someone else, and so includes it when you try sending a reply. The easiest solution is to add the "other" address to the list of "laternate addresses" that Pine should assume are also "you". This is very simple: in the Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) look for the "alt-addresses" variable and put your cursor on it. Then type "?" to look at the built-in help about it. You should set this to any other e-mail address(es) that you can be reached as (such as the one in the "From:" and/or "To:" headers of the emssage you sent to yourself. You may like to mention it to the people who look after Pine at your site, as it may be that others are suffering from the problem too. In which case the central configuration of Pine may not be quite right for your site, and need a little tweaking by the System Managers in order to fix it for everybody at once. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, anne powell wrote: > Hello. I am a frequent user of Pine and having just switched to the new, > improved version, I found a bug. It is not really a big problem and I know > how to get around it, but it is annoying, none the less. The problem is > that when you are repsonding to a message you have received, using the > relpy command, and there is a list of people who receive the message, it > asks you if you want to reply to all recipients. This has not changed. > However, now, when you say that yes, you would like to reply to all, in > now includes sending the message to yourself. While you can easily just > take yourself off the list each time, it never used to do this. I see no > reason for receiving the message yourself whe you already get it in sent > mail. > So I just wanted to point this out to you, if you had not realized > it already. > Sincerely, > Anne Powell > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:41:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA06156 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA04243 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:38:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA04239 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 04:38:12 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 07 Feb 97 13:38:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA04492; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:19:37 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:19:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Mike Brudenell cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: pine folders In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: >On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Allison G. Weeks wrote: [...] >> 2. "for stuff sent to [you] for school", i.e. incoming mail, you'll need a >> filtering program. Check: >Actually you only need procmail (or filter, or any of the other foltering >programs) if you want to direct incoming messages into folders _as they >arrive_ (ie, before you've even read it). [...] >If you are happy with receiving mail just in your INBOX (a lot of people >are) you might perhaps be asking just how to (manually) save messages to >folders to keep for later reference. You might still want to run a filtering program to save you the hassle of saving manually *after* you read the message. Of course, procmail can do that, too. >This is very easy: >* Type S (Save). This will ask you for the name of a folder to store the > message in. Just type in the folder name and press Return: You don't have to type the entire name, as pine offers tab-completion. Give your folders *unique* names and press tab after the first two or three letters.... >"quota" warns you if you have exceeded your normal storage allowance on >the disk drive, as set by the manager of your computer system. If you are >under this normal allowance it just doesn't say anything (at least, on >most systems). To see how much quota you have in use try adding the "-v' >option to the command: > quota -v Some "further reading" also made me aware of this: Some of the options which can be set when compiling: USE_QUOTAS Determines whether quotas are checked on startup. Default is to not check the quota. That's a pretty neat feature... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA19749 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA14302 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:24:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA14298 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:24:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA095417114; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please forgive the double posting, if that's the case. I was not a member of this list when I sent the first reply; I am not sure if it was posted. _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 16:13:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: "Jeff D. Hinds" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 On 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT Jeff D. Hinds wrote: > When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. > This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large > distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when > sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. > Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? I have the same problem on two of my systems; Sometimes it takes three to five minutes for a small message to be sent. I still have the old version of pine, 3.91, on my HPUX system. When I run the old pine I encounter no such problems or delays in sending messages. I have Pine3.95 on a Solaris 2.5 box and a BSDI2.1 box as well. The BSDI box has no problem or delay, but the Solaris box has the same problem and delay as the HPUX system. I appreciate a pointer to the solution. Thank you, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:22:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA21256 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:22:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14934 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pwa.acusd.edu (pwa.acusd.edu [192.55.87.207]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14930 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by pwa.acusd.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA18877; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 13:17:46 -0800 (PST) From: Meghan Mc Coy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:38:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA24587 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19193 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:35:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA19170 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 15:35:07 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:42 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:43 +0800 > Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? Email is not interactive. According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and lawyers. :-) ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:05:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29420 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:05:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA23743 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:01:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl (dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl [130.161.164.206]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA23739 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 19:01:11 -0800 Received: from dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl by dutlad0.lr.tudelft.nl with SMTP id AA13123 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:01 +0100 Received: from Damveld (p28.alp.cistron.nl) by dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10471; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:09 +0100 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 04:01:08 +0100 Message-Id: <9702080301.AA10471@dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl> X-Sender: lr171117@www.lr.tudelft.nl (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Herman Damveld Subject: Subject change Is it possible to change the subject of a message that is forwarded by a .forward file? I want the subjects from all messages, forwarded from mailbox one to mailbox two, automatically preceded by the text '[one]', brackets included. Is there any way to change the subject? Thanks for helping me out! Herman Damveld the Netherlands From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA00166 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA26860 for pine-info-out; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:09:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hamlet.uncg.edu (hamlet.uncg.edu [152.13.2.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA26856 for ; Fri, 7 Feb 1997 23:09:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (cecook@localhost) by hamlet.uncg.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA26805 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 02:09:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 02:09:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Carolyn E. Cook" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! What is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the only one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information thaqt I need thank you......Carolyn E. Cook From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:21:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA00588 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:21:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28537 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:05:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ms10.hinet.net (ms10.hinet.net [168.95.4.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA28529 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 00:05:01 -0800 From: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net Received: (from tonikuo@localhost) by ms10.hinet.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) id PAA15550; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:56:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:56:33 +0800 (CST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Hello good people at Pine: Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into one message in order to forward them onward? Yours, Don ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = tonikuo, full = home = /hinet/c5/tonikuo home_dir= /hinet/c5/tonikuo hostname= ms10 localdom= ms10 userdom= NULL maildom= ms10 cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= feb97 actual mbox= /hinet/c5/tonikuo/mail/feb97 msgmap: tot=15, cur=14, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival actual inbox= /var/mail/tonikuo inbox map: tot=2, cur=1, del=2, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/pts/8, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : "" user-id : tonikuo inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/hinet/c5/tonikuo/.pinerc) ======= last-time-prune-ques : 97.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:35:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02999 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:35:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA29711 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA29707 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:21:22 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:20:57 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: cecook@hamlet.uncg.edu Subject: Re: Please help Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fc619a08f6002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:20:58 +0800 > Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all > there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. > Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! > What > is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the > only > one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information > thaqt I need thank you......Carolyn E. Cook Please check your setup/config to see if you have the following feature enabled. FEATURE: auto-move-read-msgs This feature controls an aspect of Pine's behavior upon quitting. If set, and the "read-message-folder" variable is also set, then Pine will automatically transfer all read messages to the designated folder and mark them as deleted in the INBOX. Messages in the INBOX marked with an "N" (meaning New, or unseen) are not affected. ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04050 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02205 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02197 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:38 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00665; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:33:57 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:33:57 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net wrote: >Hello good people at Pine: >Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how >can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into >one message in order to forward them onward? Two basic options I can think of: On an advanced OS, you can cut and paste them into one message, which still is a hassle, because you need to postpone the new message in order to c&p the 2nd msg. Or you could use an editor other than pine's pico, one that allows you to cut&save text and then read it into another message. A good and *simple* alternative (anyone following up this message saying vim / emacs / blablabla rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor. Since pico is nice for writing messages, but not very versatile when it comes to editing and formatting texts, it might be a good idea to invoke this editor implicitly. In Setup, Config, check: [ ] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and then: editor = Save and enjoy. Cheers, Robin P.S. Thanks a bunch for submitting your config. That was a nice touch. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ---559023410-1903590565-855388198=:14377-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04059 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:33:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02209 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02202 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00386; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:32:36 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: >Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:34:43 +0800 >From: Ed Greshko >To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu >Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu >Subject: Re: > >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > Email is not interactive. > > According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and >lawyers. :-) I think you got the question entirely wrong. What she meant was: Do my emails get bounced, too, when I use Pine instead of AOL? And the answer is, of course: If you're using an aol address, your mail will most likely get bounced. To make sure it gets bounced, please use the appropriate (or is it default?) subjects like "ME TOO!!!", "MAKE MONEY FAST" or "PLEASE MAILBOMB ME!!!". Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:36:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA21560 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:36:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02195 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02190 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:34 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA00466; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:40:30 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:40:30 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Herman Damveld cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Subject change In-Reply-To: <9702080301.AA10471@dutlism.lr.tudelft.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Herman Damveld wrote: >Is it possible to change the subject of a message that is forwarded by a >.forward file? > >I want the subjects from all messages, forwarded from mailbox one to >mailbox two, automatically preceded by the text '[one]', brackets >included. Is there any way to change the subject? Sure, but that's nothing to do with pine. You'll need a filtering program to do that for you. The procmail package, e.g., comes with a program called formail that does exactly that (and a few thousand other things, too). Read the Filtering FAQ by Nancy McGough at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Also take a look at Marianne Aldridge's FAQ collections at: http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard They're provokingly cute, but good. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:47:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA18082 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02200 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02192 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 05:16:44 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 14:16:36 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00759; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:57:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:57:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Carolyn E. Cook" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Carolyn E. Cook wrote: >Ok here is the problem. Early, Today I checked my e-mail and it was all >there. Tonight I came back to check it again..and it is all gone. >Everything that was in my incoming mail holder was gone!!!!!!!!!!!!! What >is up with this? I haven't touched my computer all day and i am the only >one with the password!!!! Please help, i have lost a lot of information >thaqt I need Not very likely to happen. Most likely, your mail got pruned to a folder called READ-MESSAGES-jan-1997 or something like that. Make sure that this folder is not there before throwing a fit. Take a look at your configuration for the following: # List of context and folder pairs, delimited by a space, to be # offered for pruning each month. For example: {host1}mail/[] mumble pruned-folders= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.2 Then, type L to see your List of folders.If, however, this folder really doesn't exist, get ready to panic and consult your sysadmin to locate the mail. Unless you've toyed around with commands like rm, there's a good chance it will be found. Besides, as far as important information on computers is concerned, the old Leisure Suit Larry rule still holds true: Save often, save early. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05149 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:21:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03400 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03396 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:16:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 08 Feb 97 16:16:42 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA01394; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:48:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 14:48:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <32fbbc130717002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > Email is not interactive. Yes it is: Set up a filter that *asks* before it sends any mail with AOL in it to /dev/null (or bounces it, attaching nice X-sources...). > According to the news reports these days the only "talking back and >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and >lawyers. :-) On second thought, she might mean this: ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ FEATURE: allow-talk By default, permission for others to "talk" to your terminal is turned off when you are running Pine. When this feature is set, permission is instead turned on. If enabled, you may see unexpected messages in the middle of your Pine screen from someone attempting to contact you via the "talk" program. Note: The "talk" program has nothing to do with Pine or email. The talk daemon on your system will attempt to print a message on your screen when someone else is trying to contact you. If you wish to see these messages while you are running Pine, you should enable this feature. If you do enable this feature and see a "talk" message, you must suspend or quit Pine before you can respond. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ This can be set in the M(ain) screen under S(etup) C(onfig): feature-list = Set Feature Name --- ---------------------- [ ] allow-talk but who would want to talk to an AOL-user? I'd rather use a cron-job sending ME TOO!!!s to /dev/null, which imnsho would be the closest equivalent to that. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:37:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05333 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03555 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:32:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03550 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 07:32:36 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:32:11 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, mmccoy@pwa.acusd.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fc9c7c315e002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:32:13 +0800 > I think you got the question entirely wrong. What she meant was: Do my > emails get bounced, too, when I use Pine instead of AOL? And the answer > is, > of course: If you're using an aol address, your mail will most likely > get > bounced. To make sure it gets bounced, please use the appropriate (or is > it > default?) subjects like "ME TOO!!!", "MAKE MONEY FAST" or "PLEASE > MAILBOMB > ME!!!". I get many things wrong....but we probably shouldn't put words into her mouth either. We should ask her, "Is what you meant....? If yes, the answer is....". Personally, I find it a bit of a stretch to turn "type back and forth" into getting a Non-delivery notification....but as I said, I get many things wrong. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA04084 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:09:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06153 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:04:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvino.alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06149 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:04:46 -0800 Received: (from ice@localhost) by calvino.alaska.net (8.8.0/8.7.3) id KAA02090 for Pine-Info@Cac.Washington.Edu; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 10:04:35 -0900 (AKST) X-Authentication-Warning: calvino.alaska.net: ice set sender to ice-bbs!steve.howe using -f >Received: by ice-bbs.net (0.99.950303) id AA04049; 08 Feb 97 10:03:02 -0900 From: Steve.Howe@ice-bbs.net (Steve Howe) Date: 08 Feb 97 10:01:07 -0900 Subject: eXpunge Message-ID: <2c7_9702081003@ice-bbs.net> Organization: ICE BBS Network Internet Gateway To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Content-Type: text Ummmm.... I can't say for certain, but I _think_ you're going to have a real uphill battle. As a general rule it is often possible to salvage deleted files from micros' hard drives using programs such as Norton Utilities. However UNIX systems are quite another kettle of fish, with a _very_ different filing system; I don't think I've ever heard of such tools even existing for them. I hope someone can offer more hopeful advice, but you may have to start ringing data recovery services for advice/assistance. (People will only be able to suggest any to you if you send a mesage to the list saying which country/area you're in though!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Feb 1997, Steve Howe wrote: > please tell me that i can use a "disk editor" or some data recovery service to recover lost email that was "eXpunge"d with PINE 3.95 on FreeBSD 2.1.5 !!! > it's desperately needed for a legal matter! > i haven't used the disk (hard drive) since the eXpunge, although i have > booted the machine once. i hope no "log files" have over-written the > previous data. > > can you please adivise me what to do? i don't have a disk editor currently on the machine, and would be scared to get one and put it on the drive. this is VERY important that i recover the data! please tell me it's possible !!! > > thanks much! > -- > | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. > | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). i'm in Alaska, the US ... but what i really wanted to know is if PINE OVERWRITES the data on eXpunging - or does it merely remove the Inode data for a file ? -- | Standard disclaimer: The views of the users are strictly their own. | ICE BBS Network +1-907-346-2371 (ANSI, 28.8k, FREE E-MAIL!). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:38:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA08197 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:38:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA05435 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA05431 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 11:32:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtHJE-0003lxC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 10:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sten.Westerback@ntc.nokia.com (Sten Westerback) Subject: Unread mails even if i have none? Date: Wed, 05 Feb 97 14:49:27 GMT Message-ID: <5da6o2$oij@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Hi! I'm just a every now and then pine user having one problem. For some reason the logon check claims that i have unread mails even if i don't have any. How can i make it check the mailbox? - Sten From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:11:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA10706 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:11:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA08038 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA08034 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 15:05:22 -0800 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05201; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:09:04 -0300 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:09:03 -0300 (GMT) Cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Note: The "talk" program has nothing to do with Pine or email. The talk > daemon on your system will attempt to print a message on your screen when > someone else is trying to contact you. If you wish to see these messages > while you are running Pine, you should enable this feature. > > If you do enable this feature and see a "talk" message, you must suspend or > quit Pine before you can respond. How does one suspend Pine? I've always quitted before responding to a "talk" message. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11499 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09079 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09074 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtJL2-0003mdC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 12:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: b36nmt@nontri.ku.ac.th (Narumon Teeranuntachai (36056547)) Subject: about attachment Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:10:16 GMT Message-ID: <5dd6q8$3ap@news2.cpc.ku.ac.th> hello Anyone knows about Application/MS-TNEF which attach with pine? which format I should save it and what application program I can view or run this? thanks in advance From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA06408 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:29:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10154 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10150 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:22:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtIEK-0003mUC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 11:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lars Lørdahl Subject: pine, a professional program. Problems with my ISP!!! HELP! Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:18:55 +0100 Message-ID: <32FB1DAF.679A@aft.sn.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I've got some problems with my ISP and I'd like your opinion on this, this is the situation: I'm a PINE user from Norway (read: ex-PINE user). The problem is that my ISP won't support PINE, their domain are having problems giving me access to PINE. I've agrued with the for quite a while, trying to get my PINE access back as I really like using PINE, simple and effective. When I got my account they claimed to have a "Complete internet package" and I assumed that I would be able to use PINE, but no, that's not the case. My ISP claims that PINE is a professional program and I can't expect to get access to this via my account. In my opinion is PINE not a professional program, it's widely used among thousands of students all around the world, and I won't claim that they're all professionals. What's your opinion on this? Do you think it's unreasonable to claim that to be able to use PINE should be included in a "complete intenret package"? Hope to hear from you! Yours sincerely, Lars Lordahl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11466 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09095 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09089 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLjV-0003mnC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 14:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Can Pine read a local news spool? Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:42:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Cyber-Babushka wrote: > Does anybody know if Pine actually *can* read a local news spool? If so, > does anybody know the syntax I need for the configuration files? Yes. Set your news-collections in .pinerc to *[] -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA29309 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09099 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09092 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLlH-0003mpC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 15:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: recommended default setup for pine? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 08:04:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dc83s$pcc$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dc83s$pcc$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> On 6 Feb 1997, Georg Schwarz wrote: > While I'm not using pine myself I'd like to create a good global setup > file (/usr/local/bin/pine.conf) for other users, especially new ones. What _version_ of Pine are you configuring? That can make some difference in the options. > Currently /usr/local/bin/pine.conf looks like this: > > character-set=ISO-8859-1 > nntp-server=news.zrz.tu-berlin.de > printer=lpr > > Is there anything I should add? I especially would like that people can > correctly use ISO-8859-1 in both mail and Usenet news, with pine > automatically adding the correct headers. The printer setting should not have anything to do with ISO-8859-1. As you have it there, I would think that Pine will handle Latin-1 messages just fine, provided there are in fact 8-bit characters in any particular message. (If there are not, then for that message Pine "shifts down" and marks the message as US-ASCII.) With just this much, Pine will probably try to use Quoted-Printable for sending 8-bit Latin-1 characters. However, if your Pine version is new enough (mine is 3.94), and if your mail transfer agent is capable of Extended SMTP, you can instruct Pine to try to negotiate for straight 8-bit transmission rather than use Q-P. (If it cannot succeed with the negotion, it will fall back to Q-P.) In the feature-list, add these two lines: enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation enable-8bit-nntp-posting With respect to newsgroups, be aware that the standard is still 7-bit, and not all newsgroup servers respect MIME headers. Your users may send a newsgroup posting with ISO-8859-1 8-bit characters and legal MIME headers generated by Pine, but it is still possible for the characters to get garbled by a server which does not respect MIME. There is not much you can do about this except try to get the whole world to come up to the MIME standard. (MIME, after all, is a standard for _email_ extensions, not news.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11440 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10162 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10156 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLdn-0003mlC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 14:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:51:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32FC27D8.7689508C@carib-link.net> On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to > delete with one key stroke ? You can do it four keystrokes (at least for deletion). Go into your personal configuration and enable-aggregate-command-set. Read the online help about using aggregate commands. Then, from an index listing, to mark all message for deletion, enter the four keystrokes ; A A D Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11818 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10166 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10159 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 16:23:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtLkm-0003moC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 15:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Lightweight Directory Access Protocol (LDAP) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 16:46:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32F8542F.2781@aeat.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32F8542F.2781@aeat.co.uk> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, John Lines wrote: > Are there any plans to support LDAP in a future version of Pine ? > (preferably looking as much like using the Addressbook as possible) > LDAP is on our list of things to consider supporting, but we haven't really taken a serious look at it yet... -- David L. Miller | The Stardate now is [-31]8840.16 Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12752 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10121 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10117 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:45:23 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA29990; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:41:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > How does one suspend Pine? I've always quitted before responding to a > "talk" message. Make sure you enable the 'enable-suspend' in the Setup / Configuration section. Then do a Ctrl-Z to suspend Pine, allowing you to start talking or whatever else you need to do. Type 'fg' at the prompt when you want to return to Pine. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12788 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA11219 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:46:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11215 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:46:22 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id RAA00114; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Lars Lørdahl cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine, a professional program. Problems with my ISP!!! HELP! In-Reply-To: <32FB1DAF.679A@aft.sn.no> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Fri, 7 Feb 1997, Lars L=F8rdahl wrote: > Hi! >=20 > I've got some problems with my ISP and I'd like your opinion on this, > this is the situation: >=20 > I'm a PINE user from Norway (read: ex-PINE user). The problem is that my > ISP won't support PINE, their domain are having problems giving me > access to PINE. I've agrued with the for quite a while, trying to get my > PINE access back as I really like using PINE, simple and effective. When > I got my account they claimed to have a "Complete internet package" and > I assumed that I would be able to use PINE, but no, that's not the case. > My ISP claims that PINE is a professional program and I can't expect to > get access to this via my account. In my opinion is PINE not a > professional program, it's widely used among thousands of students all > around the world, and I won't claim that they're all professionals. >=20 > What's your opinion on this? Do you think it's unreasonable to claim > that to be able to use PINE should be included in a "complete intenret > package"? Some ISP's have Pine, some don't. As far as I know (and hope, since I'm=20 shopping for a new ISP myself) is that you can install your own copy of=20 Pine in your account. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:39:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA09965 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10685 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:30:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10681 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:30:37 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:30:06 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de Subject: Re: Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fd36ae281b002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:30:14 +0800 > On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > >> Can you type back and forth on e-mail like you can with aol? > > > > Email is not interactive. > > Yes it is: Set up a filter that *asks* before it sends any mail with AOL > in > it to /dev/null (or bounces it, attaching nice X-sources...). Email is not interactive. What you've just suggest is not interactive. > > According to the news reports these days the only "talking > back and > >forth" on AOL these days is between customers, customer service, and > >lawyers. :-) > > On second thought, she might mean this: > FEATURE: allow-talk talk is interactive. talk is not email. Try not to stretch meanings too much in order to make yourself "correct". Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:43:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA12820 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:43:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11798 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:35:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11794 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:35:50 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:35:26 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: b36nmt@nontri.ku.ac.th Subject: Re: about attachment Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fd37ef28e7002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:35:27 +0800 > Anyone knows about Application/MS-TNEF which attach > with pine? which format I should save it and what application > program I can view or run this? > MS-TNEF is a MicroSoft proprietary Rich Text format. It is sent via MS Deranged (sometimes called MS-Exchange). You will need that "program" to view it. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:44:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA13452 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10764 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nicnet.nic.in (nicnet.nic.in [164.100.3.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA10752 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:36:59 -0800 Received: from hub.nic.in by nicnet.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA08818; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:10:43 +0530 Received: from localhost by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA03374; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:03:49 +0530 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 08:03:48 +0530 (IST) From: SMG Group NIC To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A query about PINE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nice meeting you sir, I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution thru e-mail. Thanking you. Bala Sundaram Scientific/Technical Asst-'B' (Asst.Programmer) NEC Hall, Large System Group National Informatics Centre A-Block, C.G.O.Complex Lodhi Road New Delhi-110 003 Voice : (011)/4361315 , 011/4364951 E-mail : smg@hub.nic.in. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:03:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11385 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 19:03:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11992 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:54:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA11988 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 18:54:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtPNl-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 18:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: pine can't expand .newsrc Date: 8 Feb 1997 18:26:09 GMT Message-ID: References: <855417119.716@dejanews.com> bali@citi2.fr (bali@citi2.fr): > when I open pine it can't expand my .newsrc. it show a message: > '[400 No space left on device writing article file -- throttling] ' > everything was fine untill today. but when I use tin, > this one can read the news. What does this mean. Pine probably stores the retrieved article in a different dir than tin does. Just tell Pine to use the same dir as tin does and all should be well. Removing and compressing some files can help as well buying lager media. ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:28:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA14430 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA11883 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:20:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA11879 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:20:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtQi0-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 20:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robert@mayday.cix.co.uk Subject: Re: Pine and Local News Spooling Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:31:31 GMT Message-ID: <5dg6vj$r2u@zinc.compulink.co.uk> References: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> humpback@cygnus.ci.uc.pt wrote: > Hi: > > I use pine 3.93 in linux 2.0.21 (slackware 96) and i have instaled pnews I'm using 3.95 on 2.0.0 based homebrew (originally SLS 1.02) > and suck, with these two programs i can build a local news spool, i have Same > managed to read and post news using tin in local mode (no -r option). But Yup. > i seem to be unaible to read news with pine... I think i have tried > anything... Please help.. Ok, I can't read the news direct either, for some strange reason pine seems to be assuming that the home directory of user 'ftp' is the News directory (weird!) But I _can_ read news if I startup an IMAPd and make the news directory 'News *{localhost}[]' Problem is I can't post anything yet from pine ... I don't think its even looking for inews :-( -- Rob. (Robert de Bath ) (Bugs crawl under doors. Programs crawl under Windows...) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:07:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA14906 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13381 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:00:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA13377 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:00:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtRKN-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 20:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: your mail Date: 8 Feb 1997 18:35:34 GMT Message-ID: References: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de (Robin S. Socha): > Or you could use an editor other than pine's pico, one that allows you to > cut&save text and then read it into another message. A good and *simple* > alternative (anyone following up this message saying vim / emacs / blablabla > rules will be seriously flamed) would be Joe or some other *small* editor. You want a small editor? Well, DOS-Pine users may try "terse" (terse12.zip on Simtel mirrors). Small enough for ya? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:48:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA15066 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA12857 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:40:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA12853 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:40:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtRxR-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 21:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: cool thing for reading news groups with pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 20:17:03 GMT I'm having fun converting a lot of my computing life to the world of Windows 95 and I thought I'd let you all know this really cool thing I'm doing for news reading. On the Start Menu I have an item called "Pine News Groups" with all the news groups I regularly read as subitems. For each news group I have set it up to use a shortcut like this: C:\Pine\PINE.EXE -f *{news.myisp.com/nntp}comp.mail.pine -Ii,;,a,a,d -sort OrderedSubj (the above should be all on one line) Then when I want to read that news group I just click the Start Menu item that says comp.mail.pine and I'm in business. The reason that I use `-Ii,;,a,a,d' is because I want everything to automatically be marked deleted. Then when I'm done I just quit that window and none of those messages show up again. If there's a message that I want to hang around I type `U' to undelete it. The main drawback to using pine for reading news is that if the news group has a LOT of unread message, it can take forever to open and sort it. But for groups that I read daily, and thus don't have too many unread messages, it opens reasonably quickly. You might be wondering why I don't use another news reader, like Agent or NX or Netscape, and one of the main reasons is that I want to be able to continue to save news messages in the same folders that I save mail messages and I want these folders to be ascii so I can open them in text editors, use grep on them, etc. I have a question for you all: Does anyone know how to get the titlebar of each Pine window to say what folder or news group it has opened? It's not uncommon for me to have 5 (or more!) pine windows going and when I drag my cursor along the task bar they all pop up the same message, i.e., `PC-Pine' -- I'd love it if it would pop up `comp.mail.pine' or whatever folder is open. Thanks, Nancy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:57:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA15503 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14010 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:50:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14006 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 21:50:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtS7B-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mike Eggleston" Subject: Q: does pine support pop3? Date: 6 Feb 1997 14:56:28 GMT Message-ID: <01bc143d$8edb0450$ef7eabc7@pcmis14> I'd like to have my pine users getting their mail from a central mail hub. Does pine support pop3 and is this feasible? TIA Mike -- The opinions expressed are of the poster and do not reflect the opinions of Walker Financial Corp. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:03:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA16485 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA14323 for pine-info-out; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:51:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA14319 for ; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:51:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtU0Z-00038oC; Sat, 8 Feb 97 23:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 22:09:53 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32F4C265.29CC@cs.uni-sb.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: > On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: > > > My mailcap file has the entry: > > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput > > Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! I tried that, but it didn't work very well. First of all, when I tried to view a HTML document, nothing happened (except that I got tons of files in /tmp), and second of all, when I tried to start lynx from the command line, it spawned of hundreds of sessions, and the only way to stop it was to remove the .mailcap entry. Still open for suggestions, though. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:49:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA08498 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA15940 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:41:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA15936 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 00:41:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtUjR-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 00:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: humpback@cygnus.ci.uc.pt Subject: Pine and Local News Spooling Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:21:15 GMT Message-ID: <5dclsb$qfs@morgana.mat.uc.pt> Hi: I use pine 3.93 in linux 2.0.21 (slackware 96) and i have instaled pnews and suck, with these two programs i can build a local news spool, i have managed to read and post news using tin in local mode (no -r option). But i seem to be unaible to read news with pine... I think i have tried anything... Please help.. Gustavo A.S.R. Felisberto AKA Humpback humpback@thepentagon.com / EU at IRC http://www.ci.uc.pt/~humpback "They are not men, walking in the streets below" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:03:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17101 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16769 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:58:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA16765 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 01:58:09 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 10:58:02 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id XAA00418; Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:03:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 23:03:48 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sten Westerback cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unread mails even if i have none? In-Reply-To: <5da6o2$oij@axl02it.ntc.nokia.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Sten Westerback wrote: >I'm just a every now and then pine user having one problem. >For some reason the logon check claims that i have unread >mails even if i don't have any. > >How can i make it check the mailbox? type: ls /var/spool/mail/ *if* that's where your mailfolder is. If it isn't, try typing: mail (which can be left by typing "q" >;->). Maybe some filtering program is running of which pine hasn't been "made aware" (i.e. whose folders it cannot find at the moment). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:25:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA18489 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA15931 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:21:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA15927 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 02:21:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtWLB-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 02:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Machado Subject: Sending mail in pine for Win95 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:38:44 -0200 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Isn't there a way to use pine for Win95 just to send mails? I try to send a message, and it says: [Can't send message without an open remote folder] I don't have access to a IMAP server. I tried to put {pine.cac.washington.edu:144/anonymous}#news.updates.pine395 as my inbox path. The folder opens ok, but the message still come up. If pine for Win95 can't really work, do you know another MUA that supports customized header (like "Approved:"). TIA, Roberto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18578 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA16286 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA16282 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA09722 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:08 -0800 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 03:00:08 -0800 Message-Id: <199702091100.DAA09722@shivax.cac.washington.edu> From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE This message is being sent to pine-info@cac.washington.edu weekly to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:26:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17271 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:26:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18531 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:22:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18527 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:22:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtYAJ-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 04:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Duc Le" Subject: Re: A query about PINE Date: 9 Feb 1997 10:20:56 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1673$6cdcefc0$05de56ce@vol.vip.best.com> References: SMG Group NIC wrote in article ... ....[snip] > I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. > I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution > thru e-mail. > Thanking you. > Bala Sundaram Choose option "E" to export that message. You then have to specify the name and directory to save that file. It will be saved as text file. Good luck, Duc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19885 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18760 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18746 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00692; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:06:08 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:06:08 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: SMG Group NIC cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A query about PINE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, SMG Group NIC wrote: >I have a small doubt. I saved a message(e-mail) in a folder. >I want to save it as a text file. Please give me the solution >thru e-mail. Try E(xport) instead of S(ave). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19884 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:49:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18750 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18744 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:35 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00312; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:28 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Mike Eggleston cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: does pine support pop3? In-Reply-To: <01bc143d$8edb0450$ef7eabc7@pcmis14> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Feb 1997, Mike Eggleston wrote: >I'd like to have my pine users getting their mail from a central mail hub. >Does pine support pop3 Yes. From .pinerc: # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] #incoming-folders={ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de/pop3}inbox And from pine's q&a: Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as popclient can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. One location from which popclient can be obtained is: ftp://ftp.mal.com/pub/pop/ Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html > and is this feasible? Dunno. ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19929 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18764 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA18757 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 04:44:49 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 13:44:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00642; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:54:10 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:54:10 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: >On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: >> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: >> >> > My mailcap file has the entry: >> > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput >> Thanks. I'll try that and see how it works! >I tried that, but it didn't work very well. First of all, when I tried to >view a HTML document, nothing happened (except that I got tons of files in >/tmp), and second of all, when I tried to start lynx from the command >line, it spawned of hundreds of sessions, and the only way to stop it was >to remove the .mailcap entry. > >Still open for suggestions, though. Fine;-) # Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mailcap-search-path=/etc/mailcap ^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. # NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under DOS/Windows/OS2. mimetype-search-path=/etc/mailcap ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Make sure those are correct, otherwise... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:07:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA04133 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:07:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA19545 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:02:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA19541 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:02:32 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 15:02:24 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00688; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:47:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:47:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: > >On Mon, 3 Feb 1997, I wrote: > >> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Martin Struwe wrote: Don't we all love follow-ups by the very same person? Sorry for that, but I toyed around a bit more and found something else... > >> > My mailcap file has the entry: > >> > text/html; lynx -dump -force_html %s; needsterminal; copiousoutput ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ At least "copiousoutput" *might* suck: needsterminal If this flag is given, the named interpreter needs to interact with the user on a terminal. In some environments (e.g. a window-oriented mail reader under X11) this will require the creation of a new terminal emulation window, while in most environments it will not. If the mailcap entry specifies "needsterminal" and metamail is not running on a terminal (as determined by isatty(3), the -x option, and the MM_NOTTTY environment variable) then metamail will try to run the command in a new terminal emulation window. Currently, metamail knows how to create new windows under the X11, SunTools, and WM window systems. copiousoutput This flag should be given whenever the interpreter is capable of producing more than a few lines of output on stdout, and does no interaction with the uer. If the mailcap entry specifies copiousoutput, and pagination has been requested via the "-p" command, then the output of the command being executed will be piped through a pagination program ("more" by default, but this can be overridden with the METAMAIL_PAGER environment variable). Now, copiousoutput seems unneccessary with lynx. So I dropped it and ended up with this entry: # In the samples given test=test -n "$DISPLAY" is used to determine if # the current session is X capible by checking for the existance of a # DISPLAY environment variable. # # any system (VMS included) without the DISPLAY environment variable # will be assumed to be Non-X [..] # A common problem with the mailcap mechanism is getting differential # behavior from different programs. This problem is compounded by the fact # that some programs, notably Mosaic, do not implement the "test" clause in # mailcap files. If you are using Lynx and X Mosaic together you should # place all X-centric entries before non-X entries. X Mosaic will use # whichever entry is defined first so further entries will be ignored. # # Lynx exports the environment variable LYNX_VERSION, so if you wish to test # if Lynx is running or not you can use 'test -n "LYNX_VERSION"' test=test -z "$DISPLAY" -a -z "$LYNX_VERSION"; needsterminal text/html; lynx -force_html %s; needsterminal; The following is, of course, from my .pinerc (I forgot to mention that, but you sure knew...). ># Sets the search path for the mailcap cofiguration file. ># NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under >DOS/Windows/OS2. >mailcap-search-path=/etc/mailcap > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ># Sets the search path for the mimetypes cofiguration file. ># NOTE: colon delimited under UNIX, semi-colon delimited under >DOS/Windows/OS2. >mimetype-search-path=/etc/mailcap > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA21176 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA18840 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:45:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA18836 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 06:45:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtaUr-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 06:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlerner@panix.com (Joshua Lerner) Subject: reloading INBOX Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Hello, Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without actually having to quit and restart pine. Thanks, Joshua Lerner From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:05:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23335 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA22414 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 09:59:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA22409 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 09:59:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id LAA11236; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:59:17 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:59:16 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joshua: Very simple to do. Mark your messages for deletion by pressing the "D" key. When you are ready to delete them, press "X". This expunges them from the folder you are currently in, and refreshes the list. The aggregate command set is another good tool to use in conjunction with this. In the Pine configuration screen (from main menu press "S" and "C"), press the "?" when you have "enable-aggregate-command-set" highlighted. It will explain how this feature works. Hope this helps! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: > Hello, > > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without > actually having to quit and restart pine. > > Thanks, > > Joshua Lerner > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:36:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23672 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22786 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA22782 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:31:19 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 09 Feb 97 19:31:11 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA01697; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:46:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:46:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: >Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the *argl* Netscape? >currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm >looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without >actually having to quit and restart pine. The command you're looking for is call X(punge). Be careful, though, when using it on u*ix machines, because it's almost impossible to "undelete" expunged messages. A combination of the following is a nice way to wreak havoc on your inbox, so make sure you *know* what you're doing. [X] enable-aggregate-command-set [X] expunge-without-confirm Further help is available within pine's S(etup) C(config) (where you can set these values), and the information available at: http://www.washington.edu/pine Make sure to read that, too. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:33:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA24062 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:33:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA22179 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:27:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA22163 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 11:27:40 -0800 Received: from jason.interl.net (root@pm4-adr65.interl.net [205.244.161.65]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA30054; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:22:00 -0600 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by jason.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA01093; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:27:01 -0600 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander To: Joshua Lerner cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reloading INBOX In-Reply-To: <5de9pm$jik@panix3.panix.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 6 Feb 1997, Joshua Lerner wrote: > Is there a command in pine to "reload" a user's INBOX (or whatever the > currently selected folder is for that matter)? In other words, I'm > looking for a way to clear away the messages marked for deletion without > actually having to quit and restart pine. Hit x when you're looking at the index of messages in that folder. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMv4k+SGB07hAGnFhAQFZZAP/QMq2Ct9O0rNJbYOmBpR1gE9dIdVpNxBf b82PKOj34q3T/paPGK6b67UfNvGBy17pvnCh0f74xUTm5PHdjyEVl252Kq5mFH6C O8fII3PlNmeeAxyctJOpGZixVgMwrOQZsphJJjP0qwbDumzBKoqv8cUw4x2IcwKJ z0qmrcjF6/o= =1boZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail : jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net, @hotmail.com Home Page : http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux Links : http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25445 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA23304 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:56:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA23300 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:56:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtgER-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 12:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: news followup when followup-to: poster ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 14:46:12 GMT When attempting to post a followup to an article where the poster has specified Followup-to: poster, PINE (the version I'm using says it's 3.95a) automatically creates an email reply, without giving the opportunity to post to the newsgroup (as well or instead). Is there a way to intervene in this? One doesn't always want to limit further discussion to private email, even if the original poster wanted it so. I tried the related help, but it didn't seem to throw light on this question. -- "Come friendly Cancels, and fall on Spam" - as Betjeman didn't say From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:46:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25218 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA25208 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iaw.on.ca (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA25204 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 13:42:02 -0800 Received: from rickb.iaw.on.ca by iaw.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.2 #4) id m0vth2p-001gGdC; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:44:19 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:43:16 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Byers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Hangs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi There, I use pine quite a bit, but I've been having a problem lately where it hangs when doing network activity. For example, usually when posting a message. I expect the server that impad is running on is under heavy load, but isn't there any timeout? It's very frustrating writing a long message and then having to kill pine because it's just sitting there. I once left pine running all night to see if it would eventually time out - nope - still said "Busy" and was "spinning" in the morning... Also, are there any places with user patches/upgrades for pine? I've written a small one that just adds a couple of features and changes the default behaviour of pine, but I've got a lot more I'd like to do. I figured I better check to see if someone allready did something like it... Thanks, Rick ========================================================================= Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:03:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27566 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA27707 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA27703 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 16:57:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtjzN-00038oC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 16:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Justin Eichenlaub Subject: GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 19:36:19 -0500 Message-ID: <32FBCA83.8A6@velocity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------7D7733357AC2" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------7D7733357AC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ladies and Gentlemen: ***THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE THAT TELLS HOW YOU CAN HELP MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON AMERICAN GOVERNMENT AND POLITICS*** IF YOU CARE ABOUT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE REPRESENTING YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES RIGHTS IN WASHINGTON, THEN THIS MESSAGE IS FOR YOU! My name is Justin Eichenlaub and I am working to start to mobilize and on-line movement to encourage the Congress of the United States of America to pass "true" campaign finance reform. For those of you who have never heard of this issue before, it mainly deals with changing laws so that there is a limit on the amount of money that can be given to political campaigns and the amount of money that can be spent. For more information log onto my web sight at: http://www.angelfire.com/pa/financereform I am not asking you to become a major player in this effort where a lot of work and time will be expected, in fact the requirement to be a part of this revolution in American politics is very infantile. The minimum that we are asking you to do to support our cause is to send at least one letter to your congressional representative and senators, and encourage anyone you know on the Internet or at home, on the job, or in school to do the same. If you prefer this letter can be personally written by you as long as you feel that you have read up on the issue and are well-informed enough to make certain statements and have the knowledge to back them up. I you are not too sure, or just don't feel that you have the time but would still like to partake, then a type of form letter will be supplied to you to print out and merely plug in your address and name into the letter. This relatively easy and great way to spread our concerns will work only if you agree to give up a small amount of your time to take part in the free democracy that many men and women have died to retain for our country. If you are interested, simply send this e-mail back to me and we will be in contact with you. My e-mail is JUTMAN@VELOCITY.NET Thank you very much for your time, and I hope that you seriously consider the benefits of your participation. 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-0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26837 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26833 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 17:37:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtkdI-00038pC; Sun, 9 Feb 97 17:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 6 Feb 1997 14:48:45 -0500 Message-ID: <5ddcit$4kp@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII/Compuserve,Spry Mail Microsoft Internet Mail all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm also cc:Mail to all of above. This is a free service. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:32:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27577 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA29729 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA29725 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:27:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtmJl-000391C; Sun, 9 Feb 97 19:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Matt Miller - ComPath Inc." Subject: test: Please disregard Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Miller ComPath, Inc Office: (703) 207-0500 3007 Williams Dr. Fax: (703) 206-9616 Fairfax, VA 22031 Email: matt.miller@compath.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:46:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA31248 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:46:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA29191 for pine-info-out; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA29187 for ; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtnXi-000390C; Sun, 9 Feb 97 20:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aphillips@sunbelt.net (Andrew A. Phillips) Subject: cmsg cancel <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> Control: cancel <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 01:50:20 GMT Message-ID: Message <32fa354a.0@204.71.8.22> was cancelled by fifi@toby.han.de. Reason: Spam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA01247 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA01829 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:02:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA01825 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:02:16 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA18417; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:11 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Multiple pine windows Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi all, I have the following question : Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message=20 "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without quit Pine. TIA JEAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:49:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA01691 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:49:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA03806 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA03802 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:44:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtrGb-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 00:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jaime Pina Subject: Headers List Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 13:22:07 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does not display the header "TO:"? Thanks in advance. Jaime Pina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Once you have flown you will walk the Earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return." ---DaVinci From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:39:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA22853 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:39:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02938 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:31:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from commserv.sorosis.ro (commserv.sorosis.ro [193.226.30.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02934 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:31:07 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by commserv.sorosis.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id JAA13526 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:30:09 GMT Received: (from crys@localhost) by lisv.sorosis.ro (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA15776; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:04:56 +0200 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:04:52 +0200 (EET) From: Tudor TARANU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.9 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes,i use the program pine 3.9 I need more information{in french} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:49:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA01601 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04498 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:41:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04494 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 01:41:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:38:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA23392; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:40:43 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:40:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). You do this by first making sure you have some additional commands available to you... 1. Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen. 2. Look for the "enable-aggregate-command-set" variable, and make sure it is selected (has an "X" next to it). 3. Exit the Setup Configuration screen, saving any changes you made. Now go to the Index screen of the folder containing the messages you want to select and work on. Once there... 4. Use the now-available Select (;) command to pick the messages you want to work on. After typing the ";" command check the menu at the bottom of the screen for the various ways of picking messages. If you just have a couple use "C" (or Return) to pick the current message. 5. Selected messages are shown either in bold or with an "X" at the beginning of their line (depending on settings in your Setup Configuration screen). Now you need to operate on your selected messages... 6. Use the Apply (A) command to indicate you want to operate on all the selected messages (instead of just the current one). Having given the Apply command check the command menu at the bottom of the screen to see what commands are available. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997 tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net wrote: > > Hello good people at Pine: > > Actually, this isn't a true "bug" report. What I wanted to know was, how > can I take two or more messages that I've received, and combine them into > one message in order to forward them onward? > > Yours, > Don From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02698 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03405 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03399 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:47 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:22 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: jpina@shrike.depaul.edu Subject: Re: Headers List Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fef40f2172002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:24 +0800 > > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" > with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? The problem is that you can tell pine not to display the To: line on a per message basis. So, you could turn of the To: like but it would be off for all messages. I don't know if you'd want that behaviour. Maybe you could convince the sender to fix their way of sending so that the Loooonnnnnnnggggg To: doesn't come out that way? Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:20:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02714 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03409 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03402 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:10:51 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:27 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0 Beta (0125)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32fef4132172004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:10:28 +0800 > > > Hi all, > > I have the following question : > > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. Nope, there is no way to currently reconnect Window#1. The best thing you can do is quit Window #1 and proceed in Window #2. Actually, the best thing you can do is not to try starting a second pine unless you tell it a specific folder (not INBOX) to start in. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:24:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20025 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04855 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:16:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04851 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:16:50 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:14:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA04086; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:16:28 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:16:27 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jaime Pina cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Headers List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" A better solution (one that will help everyone who receives the message, not just yourself) is to ask the people who send out the message to distibute it by listing the recipients' e-mail addresses in the "Bcc:" field rather than the "To:" field. This will hide the list of recipients in each delivered copy of the message. Note that it is highly advisable to include at least one valid e-mail address in the "To:" field when using using "Bcc:". Otherwise some mail delivery programs continue to list all the recipients as a series of "Apparently-to:" headers. (Sigh.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Jaime Pina wrote: > > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jaime Pina > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "Once you have flown you will walk the Earth with your eyes turned > skyward, for there you have been, there you long to return." > ---DaVinci > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:31:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02804 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:31:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04940 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04934 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:23:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:18:49 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) for id KAA05754; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:20:57 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:20:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Marking all messages read/delete In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To mark all messages as havine been read: ; A A * ! N (Select All Apply Flag Not New) Note that for this to work you need the "enable-aggregate-command-set" variable set (to give you the Select command) and also the "enable-flag-cmd" variable (to give you the Flag (*) command). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Lennard Kong wrote: > > > Is there a way to mark all messages read or mark them to > > delete with one key stroke ? > > You can do it four keystrokes (at least for deletion). Go into > your personal configuration and enable-aggregate-command-set. Read > the online help about using aggregate commands. Then, from an index > listing, to mark all message for deletion, enter the four keystrokes > > ; A A D > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:51:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA23301 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA03763 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:43:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA03759 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 02:43:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:38:55 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA12174; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:03 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rick Byers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts for the discrepancy. For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" alarm and things work just fine. Gut feeling is that there is some sort of "negative interaction" going on between the once-a-second alarm timer responsible for spinning the busy cursor and the networking code. I've reported the problem to the Pine Team, but given it only appears to happen on _some_ of our IRIX systems and no-one else seems to have mentioned it (until now?) it's difficult to do anything about. Give it a try and see if it works for you or not. (And perhaps report the results of your test here?) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 9 Feb 1997, Rick Byers wrote: > Hi There, > I use pine quite a bit, but I've been having a problem lately where it > hangs when doing network activity. For example, usually when posting a > message. I expect the server that impad is running on is under heavy > load, but isn't there any timeout? It's very frustrating writing a long > message and then having to kill pine because it's just sitting there. I > once left pine running all night to see if it would eventually time out - > nope - still said "Busy" and was "spinning" in the morning... > > Also, are there any places with user patches/upgrades for pine? I've > written a small one that just adds a couple of features and changes the > default behaviour of pine, but I've got a lot more I'd like to do. I > figured I better check to see if someone allready did something like it... > > Thanks, > Rick > > ========================================================================= > Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide > rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support > Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 > http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:39:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA03496 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:39:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA05617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA05613 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:31 -0800 From: littlemn@ix.netcom.com Received: from san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com (san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com [204.31.238.48]) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA18770 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:29 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 03:29:29 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com: Host san-tx1-16.ix.netcom.com didn't use HELO protocol To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Subject: I need help with a binhex file X-Mailer: NETCOMplete v3.0, from NETCOM On-Line Communications, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to exchange photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the encoded files. could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm clone? My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the browser, neither has helped me decode the file. thanks for any help you can offer James Midgett, littlemn@ix.netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA04815 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA07279 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:47:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA07275 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:47:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 14:47:26 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA00470; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:58:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:58:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jaime Pina cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: Headers List In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: >> I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I >> read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with >> all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does >> not display the header "TO:"? >A better solution (one that will help everyone who receives the message, >not just yourself) is to ask the people who send out the message to >distibute it by listing the recipients' e-mail addresses in the "Bcc:" >field rather than the "To:" field. >This will hide the list of recipients in each delivered copy of the >message. IMVHO, this problem is calling for a filtering program. The simplest solution would be to check the mail for a regexp containing the name of the list and strip the rest of the to: field. You might also cat it into the body of the message so that you can still see who the message was intended to got to, too. Check Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ In this case, I'd strongly suggest using procmail >;->, but that's just my personal opinion. Apart from that: Why are you sending mails with more than one cc: / bcc: -- that's not what a "list" is for, is it? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:40:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA31550 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA06567 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:36:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA06563 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 06:36:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id IAA05370; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:35:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:35:38 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: littlemn@ix.netcom.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I need help with a binhex file In-Reply-To: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One quick fix is this. The Eudora Light POP3 Mail client (freeware, I believe) will encode/decode MIME and BinHex. But I'd imagine that there must be other shareware or freeware based codecs around. A quick search in Yahoo or Excite should turn up something. Hope this helps! ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email: rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 littlemn@ix.netcom.com wrote: > I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to > exchange > photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the encoded files. > > could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm > clone? > > My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the > browser, neither has helped me decode the file. > > thanks for any help you can offer > > James Midgett, > littlemn@ix.netcom.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06049 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:12:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07002 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:07:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA06997 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:07:37 -0800 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10459; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:11:03 -0300 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:11:02 -0300 (GMT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to > operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; > save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). Thanks for this informative reply. But, one thing I didn't get was how to save the messages seperately after they have been fowarded as one message. Regards From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06493 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07578 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA07574 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtxeS-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: crzyloon@shore.net (CrazyLoon) Subject: Re: Problems with PINE in SCO 3.2.4.2 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 03:30:44 GMT Message-ID: <32f94fa8.956095@news.shore.net> References: <1.5.4.32.19970205194727.00676fc0@multicomputo.multinet.com.co> On 5 Feb 1997 08:48:28 -0800, cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co (SOLON CACERES MORENO) wrote: >thank you for help. > >The crypt library has been installed. Which one? I found one that works, and it isn't the one on SCO's website. > >The standard output received is: >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >make args are "CC=3Dcc " > I'm assuming the 3D= isn't actually there, are you using the cc that came with SCO's DEV kit, or are you using a renamed GCC? I had problems with SCO's cc, however PINE had no probelms with GCC 2.7.2. Of course, getting GCC 2.7.2 was a total pain, but so far it has been worth it. >Newly, Thank you very Much > > >SOLON CACERES MORENO (Colombia, South America) >Sol=F3n C=E1ceres Moreno >Coordinador de Sistemas de Informaci=F3n CDMB >e-mail: cdmb@multicomputo.multinet.com.co > > ----- CrazyLoon http://www.shore.net/~crzyloon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06752 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:42:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA08868 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA08864 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 07:37:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vtxgR-000392C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atlka@cent01.oi.pg.gda.pl (Adam Tla/lka) Subject: Unicode in pine Date: 7 Feb 1997 16:35:08 GMT Message-ID: I think that we need version of pine which supports Unicode. I mean if we use terminal which displays Unicode translated glyphs in UTF8 for example then pine could use this kind of terminal and properly display multilingual mail. -- . . Adam Tla/lka mailto:atlka@pg.gda.pl ^v^ ^v^ ^v^ ) System & Network Administration Group ~~~~~~ - Computer Center, Technical University of Gdansk, Poland From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:14:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA07841 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:14:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA08150 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA08146 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:07:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vty6N-000392C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 07:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacek Kopecky Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 09:36:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? > > Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, > and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! In the Main menu type '?', it will show you basic help. You can omit first couple pages, I think. Jacek Kopecky E-mail: jacek.kopecky@upol.cz WWW: http://www.upol.cz/~kopeckyj From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA09382 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:44:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA10256 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:39:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us [204.91.160.98]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10251 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:39:27 -0800 Received: from localhost (rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA06064 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:39:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:39:26 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Cummins To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: H*E*L*P Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? > > Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, > and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! You might try http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/. Also, there is a home-brewed Pine tutorial at http://www.burlco.lib.nj.us/tutorial/pinemail.html. It's been slightly customized for use here at the library, but 99% of it is still useful. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:01:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA10373 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09420 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:56:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA09416 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:56:28 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 17:56:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id PAA00519; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:03:44 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:03:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: littlemn@ix.netcom.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I need help with a binhex file In-Reply-To: <199721052838241@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 littlemn@ix.netcom.com wrote: >I use a PC with win95, I have a pen pal that uses a mac. We tried to >exchange photos this week end and are having problems with viewing the >encoded files. >could you please tell me how I de-code and view a benhex file on an ibm >clone? There are two Mac utilities called binhex and hexbin available on the internet. Those are for LinuX, so you should be able to run them on your system as soon as you've installed LinuX on your system (which is a good idea, anyway, because a PC is a terrible thing to waste... >;-> ). I do suspect, though, that a similar util is available for Dos95, too, so check www.yahoo.com (for example). Viewing the files is a different matter. There's viewing software galore again at yahoo. You might run into trouble if your friend has used some fancy Mac format for the files, too. Apart from that, don't you two have access to an ftp-server? Cause that's where those files belong, actually (correct me if I'm wrong, pls). >My net server is Netcom, I can use Netscape or Microsoft exchange as the >browser, neither has helped me decode the file. If at all, your mailer should be able to handle those. SM-exchange and Netscape are no mailers, I think - or are they? ;-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07826 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09507 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:59:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA09503 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 08:59:09 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:56:32 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id QAA16078; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:58:39 GMT Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:58:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Combining messages for a reply In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Whoa... are you trying to do two different things in one go? If you want to include two or more messages in a reply/forwarded message then the "Select messages, Apply a Reply or Forward" to them is just what you want. However replying/forwarding is simply you sending a message to someone; it doesn't save anything anywhere (unless, of course, you have set Fcc: to file a copy somewhere, in which case (as usual) an exact copy of the message you sent gets stored). If you want to save the messages (as separate items) to another folder then you still use the "Select messages, Apply..." trick, but in this case you Apply a "Save" (S) command to them. Whilst Applying a Forward or Reply joins the selected message into one (you can only be actively composing one message at a time, which is why this happens) Applying a Save keeps the messages as separate items as they are moved into the destination folder. So to save messages to a different folder: ; ...Select the messages A S foldername ...Apply a Save command to put them into a specified folder Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > It is indeed quite possible to combine two (or more) messages in order to > > operate on them (eg, forward them all on as one message; print them out; > > save them (as separate messages) to another folder; delete them; etc). > > Thanks for this informative reply. But, one thing I didn't get was how > to save the messages seperately after they have been fowarded as one message. > > Regards > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:59:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11962 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11195 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:56:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11191 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA292557345; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:46 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:55:45 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: Rick Byers > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our > SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different > patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts > for the discrepancy. I see it on our HP system as well as on a Solaris box, but only when I run Pine3.95 not when I run Pine3.91, which I still preserve. > For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the > systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" > alarm and things work just fine. I can't find "disable-busy-alarm" in my Pine configurations; How do you set it? Thanks, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:33:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA07988 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA13002 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA12998 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:26:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu0Ho-000390C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 10:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Naor Mark Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 19:35:54 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Hi Jean, I had the same problem (actually I kept forgetting that I left pine with Ctrl-Z ;) but couldn't find any good solution. The final trick to solve this irritating problem was that instead of starting pine, I start a small and primitive script that does the job for me. ------Begin of script spine ----- #! /bin/sh # exec pine only if not already running or a lock file exists if [ ! -e "" ]; then =09exec pine "-d0 -z -I l" $@ exit 5 # else =09echo 'Another Pine Session already running ... exiting' fi ----End of script ----- Now, the idea is to identify the lock file usually at /tmp/ just look around when you're in Pine and it won't take too long before you'll know which one is yours.=20 Then "brutally" put the full path of the file into the script, "et voila" it won't come up if you're already open once. I'm not a Unix Guru, so I guess it can be done better, but since it works..... :) All the Best, Naor On 10 Feb 1997, Jean Schuller wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I have the following question : >=20 > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message=20 > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. >=20 > TIA >=20 > JEAN >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- > Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 > _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 > local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques > foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 > local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess > foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France > ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- >=20 >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:26:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA16398 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:26:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13533 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13529 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:21:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu17M-000394C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 11:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Risner Subject: Re: Supress the To: list Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:51:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ED72D5.1536@toy.mem.ti.com> On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, M. Wick wrote: > Does anyone know how to supress the To: list in pine but still send > the mail out? > > From: aaa@bbb.com > To: (list supressed (Not Listed)) > Subject: Something > > Message. Put the list name in the Lcc field. --- David G. Risner -- Network Systems Administrator Southwestern University School of Law, Los Angeles, CA Business: drisner@swlaw.edu Personal: drisner@mci2000.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:55:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA17996 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:55:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA15744 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:49:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from louise.stat.washington.edu (louise.stat.washington.edu [128.95.17.141]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA15740 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 12:49:25 -0800 From: bensmail@stat.washington.edu Received: by louise.stat.washington.edu (4.1/UW-NDC Revision: 2.26 ) id AA16875; Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:49:24 PST Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:49:24 PST Message-Id: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: binhex Hi , I need your help to read a received binhex file I am working on unix machines Thanks Halima From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:08:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19196 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:08:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17058 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17054 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:02:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu2kv-000395C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: VMS Pine? In-Reply-To: <32ea6d01.69552735@News.TIAC.NET> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: <32ea6d01.69552735@News.TIAC.NET> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:57:43 GMT On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Bob Coe wrote: > I've been told that there's a version of Pine that runs on a VAX under > VMS. There are some commercially supported ports; but for a free version, see Andy Harper's developments at ftp2.kcl.ac.uk in directory ZIP (use a conventional FTP client for this, and id anonymous). For some background you might start with my own notes at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html There's a new version (3.91 beta 11) just out - I haven't tried it yet but it sounds real good. -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:10:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19216 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:10:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17150 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:04:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from iaw.on.ca (canal.iaw.on.ca [204.225.37.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17143 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:04:35 -0800 Received: from rickb.iaw.on.ca by iaw.on.ca with smtp (Smail3.2 #4) id m0vu2wc-001gK7C; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:07:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:05:44 -0500 (EST) From: Rick Byers To: "Joe R. Jah" cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joe, Just add "disable-busy-alarm" to your feature list (/local/lib/pine.conf, or ~/.pinerc should work too). I've turned it off, and so far it's working great (thanks Mike!). It really didn't help much anyway... Rick On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Joe R. Jah wrote: > On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:41:01 +0000 (GMT) > > From: Mike Brudenell > > To: Rick Byers > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > > > Hmmmm.... we see this "perpetually spinning busy cursor" on _some_ of our > > SGI IRIX systems (but not on others). My suspicion is that the different > > patches that have been applied to the various systems probably accounts > > for the discrepancy. > > I see it on our HP system as well as on a Solaris box, but only when I run > Pine3.95 not when I run Pine3.91, which I still preserve. > > > For us a workaround is to set the "disable-busy-alarm" feature in the > > systemwide configuation file for Pine. This disables the spinning "busy" > > alarm and things work just fine. > > I can't find "disable-busy-alarm" in my Pine configurations; How do you > set it? > > Thanks, > > Joe > > _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o > _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, > _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O > _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us > ========================================================================= Rick Byers Internet Access Worldwide rickb@iaw.on.ca System Admin, Tech Support Welland, Ontario, Canada (905)714-1400 http://www.iaw.on.ca/rickb/ http://www.iaw.on.ca/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:27:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19590 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16520 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us (hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us [147.144.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA16511 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:21:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us with SMTP (1.37.109.20/16.2) id AA246999653; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:20:53 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: "Joe R. Jah" To: Rick Byers Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Hangs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Rick Byers wrote: > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:05:44 -0500 (EST) > From: Rick Byers > To: "Joe R. Jah" > Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine Hangs > > Joe, > > Just add "disable-busy-alarm" to your feature list (/local/lib/pine.conf, > or ~/.pinerc should work too). I've turned it off, and so far it's > working great (thanks Mike!). It really didn't help much anyway... I added it on a line by itself, but it didn't make a difference. Thank you for the reply anyway, Joe _/ _/_/_/ _/ ___________ __o _/ _/ _/ _/ ______________ -\<, _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ ......O/ O _/_/ oe _/ _/. _/_/ ah jjah@ccsf.cc.ca.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:32:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19664 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:32:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17715 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17711 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:56 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA08341; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:26:51 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jean Schuller cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple pine windows In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997, Jean Schuller wrote: > Suppose I am reading a mail using Pine on the window #1 and then > I start a new Pine on window #2, the first Pine give the message > "[Another Pine is accessing Inbox. Session now Read-Only.]", Ok. > Now, I quit Pine on window #2 but my Pine #1 stays allways in > Read Only state. Is there a way to turn it "read-Write" without > quit Pine. Jean, We don't happen to use Berkeley folder format anymore (and this locking behavior is a function of the driver for that format), so I can't test this, but I *thought* you could go to the folder list and select INBOX and re-open... then again, maybe that only works if it was closed due to an access error. Note also that you can start the second session with the -o flag so that it won't disturb the first session. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17000 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA17905 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA17901 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H7-000396C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Headers List Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:59:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 8 Feb 1997, Jaime Pina wrote: > I am part of a very long list (very, very, long list), and when I > read mail from it, 95% of the message is taken up by the header "TO:" with > all the names and addresses of the list. What do I do so that Pine does > not display the header "TO:"? Quite seriously, the best thing you can do is instruct whoever is sending you this monster how to do it right in the first place, so that you don't have the problem. With a list of addressees this long, the sender should not put everydody's address in To:. Teach the sender how to use Bcc:, which should be available with most mail agents, Pine and otherwise. In such a case, the sender should not leave To: completely blank: there are a couple of tricks to use, depending on the sender's mail agent. (Late versions of Pine and possibly other mail agents also have an Lcc: option which can be used.) I am serious -- this should not be your problem. The sender should change his/her ways. After all, if you disable seeing To: for this, you will probably disable seeing it for all messages, which you may not want. The real problem is on the other end with a sender who does not know how to do things properly. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20065 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:38:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16827 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16823 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H7-000397C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steve Kreis" Subject: PC Pine and News Date: 8 Feb 1997 21:31:57 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1608$718ac300$269dc2d0@stevekre> I just started a new job where I have a dedicated ISDN line to access the Internet. Unfortunately, we do not have a news feed from our ISP. But, the ISP I use from home does. It was suggested that I use PC Pine to access my NNTP server from work. So, I located, downloaded and installed PC Pine on my machine at work (BTW, the PC Pine .ZIP file from TUCOWS would not unpack itself). After a few minutes of fiddling I got the mail portion of PC Pine to work correctly. I can send and receive mail without a problm. But, no news. I downloaded my newsrc from my home account and put it in the same dir as PC Pine and entered the path in the pinerc but no go. Any ideas regarding what I have to do to get PC Pine to retrieve news? ------ Dr. Steven Kreis The Wade Edwards Learning Lab stevek@pagesz.net Raleigh, NC http://www.pagesz.net/~stevek skreis@wade.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:39:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA20048 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA16819 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA16810 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu3H2-000395C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: outgoing mail to different folders Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 17:48:34 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5dbr65$no7@nuscc.nus.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dbr65$no7@nuscc.nus.sg> On 6 Feb 1997, Helmer Aslaksen wrote: > I've recently switched from elm to pine. In elm, outgoing mail to x > would be put in the folder Mail/x if it existed. Can I do that in > pine? Thanks in advance. You can do something in Pine which may accomplish the same purpose. In the addressbook, when you set up an alias (or nickname) for someone, you can specify Fcc for that recipient. You can use any legal folder name that does not conflict with some already existing folder -- unless you deliberately want to store outgoing mail from more than one person in the same folder. Then, when you want to send mail to someone, use the nickname on the To: line of the headers, and Pine will automatically save that message in the particular folder you specified in the addressbook for that person. (If you wish, you may change it at the last minute for any single message.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:18:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA21169 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:18:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA17957 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:13:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA17952 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:13:04 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 10 Feb 97 23:12:56 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA02460; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:27:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 22:27:42 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: bensmail@stat.washington.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: binhex In-Reply-To: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Feb 1997 bensmail@stat.washington.edu wrote: >I need your help to read a received binhex file. >I am working on unix machines Which is good, because there are Macutils available for that. Check www.yahoo.com for binhex and hexbin. That should be all you need. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Incorrectness Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:47:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA20285 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA19756 for pine-info-out; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA19752 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:42:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vu4Iq-000394C; Mon, 10 Feb 97 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: binhex Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:20:49 GMT Message-ID: References: <9702102049.AA16875@louise.stat.washington.edu> bensmail@stat.washington.edu (bensmail@stat.washington.edu): > I need your help to read a received binhex file > I am working on unix machines BinHex usually is for Macintosh files. Unless it contains just data (text) you should transfer it to a Mac on drop it onto StuffItExpander (currently at version 4.0.2). But you can convert BinHex with mcvert - see page http://trurl.npac.syr.edu/SGIfreeware/mcvert.html Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 10 Feb 1997 15:36:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: