From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 01:50:59 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:50:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02459 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12442 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:45:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA12435 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:45:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfN6g-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 01:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kerrie Mercel" Subject: "Submit to over 500 urls" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <199701010810.AAA25028@web1.valley-internet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Do you know about the fully automatic submission program which will link your Web Pages to over 500 Search Engines & Directories? 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Happy New Year Kessa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 02:07:50 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:07:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02582 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13549 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:00:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13542 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:00:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfNJe-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 01:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 29 Dec 1996 19:28:46 GMT Message-ID: <5a6gpe$li6@news.dgsys.com> References: <59us3g$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> In-Reply-To: Randolph L. Wicks Jr. writes: >unsubscribe Randy, You may want to submit this command to a mailing list and not Usenet. To unsubscribe from a newsgroup, simply bow to the four winds and never select that group again. If, however, you want to unsubscribe from a real mailing list, please address said e-mail to the appropriate mail list server. Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 03:25:57 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA03488 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA13774 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:20:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA13770 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:20:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfOfp-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 03:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Retrieving names from global addressbook Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:07:42 -0900 Message-ID: References: <19961230021200.VAA25992@ladder01.news.aol.com> vashti@aol.com (Vashti) writes: > > It seems that pine accesses addresses from the global addressbook based on > the nickname. In other words, non-unique names seems to prevent me from > retrieving the address I want from the addressbook. Is there some other > way i can set up my addressbook or do all of my nicknames have to be > unique All your nicknames have to be unique. Think of the addressbook as a as a collection of records in a database, with the nickname as the key field. Another feature that I like is with distribution lists is, you can enter in nicknames as the member of that distribution, instead of the full email address. That almost makes our database relational. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 07:42:06 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:42:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05453 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA18331 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:36:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA18327 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:36:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfSa4-00038vC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 07:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ganymede@insync.net (Greg R. Broderick) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 06:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <5a2elr$800b4_006@news.insync.net> References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> In article <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com>, billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) wrote: :In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup :comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten :wrote: : :>How can i send 1000s of emails ?? : :type : :'rm -rf * pine' : :at a Unix shell prompt. Bill: You forgot the 'cd /' which *must* be done prior to the invocation of the rm command in order for it to function properly.... ;-) [Note to the unawares: Do Not Try This At Home, it is best done by trained professionals, such as Lyle Larson, Sanford Wallace, and Fred Sterling.] -- ============================================================================ Greg R. Broderick Congress should ensure domestic tranquility, not prevent more perfect unions. If they want ganymede@mailhost.insync.net to save marriage, they should pass a law greg@qrd.org requiring that the backs of dishes shall always be washed. --San Francisco Examiner columnist Rob Morse ============================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 08:15:13 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:15:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA05700 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA17413 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 08:09:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA17409 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 08:09:26 -0800 Received: from jasoneng (pm2-adr46.interl.net [205.244.161.46]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10130; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:05:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jason Englander" To: jint711@netcom.com (Jint) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:09:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Jint, > I haven't tried it yet, but in one of the Linux groups someone posted: > > inbox-path={/110}INBOX > > Basically the same as what you posted, except I don't see a field named > "Remote Inbox" in pine's configuration menu. I wonder if adding that line > directly into the .pinerc and setting inbox-path to a local mail folder > would allow pine to use both POP3 and local mail successfully. > > The thing I fear about setting the inbox-path to the POP3 is that pine > will probably scream that the inbox doesn't exist if you go into it while > your PPP connection is down. > > Once again, I didn't try this yet, but I will when I get home. If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under the Incoming-Folders= field. Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX This way, using incoming folders, you can still have the INBOX folder in Pine, _and_ a folder to read mail directly from the pop3 server. If you use the format that you saw in that Linux newsgroup, your INBOX folder (now /usr/spool/mail/username) will be replaced by {mail.yourisp.com/pop3}INBOX and it will bitch when you start Pine that it can't access that folder. As far as using {/110}INBOX instead of {/pop3}INBOX - you might want to go with the 2nd one. Not every ISP uses port 110 for pop3. Jason -- Jason Englander InterLink L.C. jasoneng@interl.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 09:11:34 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:11:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06235 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18142 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 09:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18136 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 09:06:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfU1a-00038xC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 09:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: PINE for SGI/IRIX 5.3 Date: 30 Dec 1996 18:42:54 GMT Message-ID: <5a92fe$efn$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <32C80420.2781@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <32C80420.2781@maroon.tc.umn.edu>, korio001@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: > Please help. > Where can I download the pine/pico binaries from SGI boxes? Please try http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/test.html where Pine3.94 and Pico2.9 are available for Irix 5.3 machines. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 11:12:39 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:12:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA07541 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA21637 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:06:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA21633 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfVv0-00038zC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 11:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: remote SMTP or NNTP connection hangs solaris.x86 in pine Date: 30 Dec 1996 07:07:35 GMT Message-ID: <5a7pnn$mjd@news.NetVision.net.il> The problem is as follows: If You run pine on Solaris.x86 it works perfectly until You set smtp-server=. Then it hangs the system perfectly when You try to send the letter. It can be revived by reset button only. The same thing with nntp-server=, but it hangs the computer when You try to read the news. I have looked through the archives and have noticed, that someone has reported the problem with the TCP connection on Solaris.x86. Was that problem solved? -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 14:24:14 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:24:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09425 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA24520 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:17:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA24514 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:17:19 -0800 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (sehlin@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.102]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id RAA26139 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sehlin@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA15452 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:14 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: sehlin owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:14 -0500 (EST) From: suzanne m ehlin Reply-To: suzanne m ehlin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am having a problem getting into my mail. Everytime I log on I get thios message saying read only and I can't get it or any of my other mail. I am not evn sure I will be able to get a response from you. It says something about bin@wam.umd.edu. I would really like to know if you have any idea about thius, you can reach me at 301-881-6305. I am not sure I will be able to get a message from you! Please help me! Thanks sue From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 14:42:36 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:42:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09655 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23355 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:36:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23351 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:36:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfZ9Q-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 14:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Lane Subject: .sig at end? Date: 28 Dec 1996 08:02:35 GMT Message-ID: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my .sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve -- Steve Lane Preferred Internet, Inc. of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 16:24:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:24:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10602 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26291 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:18:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA26287 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:17:51 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Jan 97 01:17:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01358; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:11:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:11:51 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Stephen Lane cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .sig at end? In-Reply-To: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Dec 1996, Stephen Lane wrote: >hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have >a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my >.sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. >my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think >it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). >anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and >the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve [censored] less .pinerc reveals this: ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ less secrets.txt -> * The "signature-at-bottom" feature only applies to Replies. It is not possible to force your signature to the bottom of the included text in a Forward. Enjoy. Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 17:33:09 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11177 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA27309 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:27:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA27305 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:27:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfbnl-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 17:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MANDREWS@Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: Weird problem with Pine 3.95 and HP-UX 9.04 Date: 29 Dec 1996 06:41:07 GMT Message-ID: I've got a bizarre problem with Pine 3.95 on an HP-UX 9.04 box (a 9000/856). In short, when I start it up: Creating subdirectory "/users/mandrews//users/mandrews/mail" where Pine will store its mail folders. Error creating subdirectory "/users/mandrews//users/mandrews/mail" : No such file or directory and of course it quits. This is happening even with the "pine-bin.hpux9" precompiled binary pulled from the U Washington site... though I tried building my own using both gcc 2.7.2 and the lobotomized /bin/cc first. This machine currently has a copy of Pine 3.91 that came prebuilt from some FTP site I don't remember (because I wasn't the one that installed it) that works -- but if I recompile 3.91 myself, it too has problems finding my home directory. Hmm... This has to be something REALLY simple, but it's driving me nuts. :) (e-mail responses preferred...) -- -- Mike Andrews - mandrews@wittenberg.edu, mandrews@termfrost.org (NeXT) -- Programmer/Analyst, systems/mail/web/netnews guy, Wittenberg University -- http://www.termfrost.org/ "The truth is, you never find the truth." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 17:55:52 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:55:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11422 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26081 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (netcom15.netcom.com [192.100.81.128]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26077 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (jint711@localhost) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA09182; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jint X-Sender: jint711@netcom15 To: Jason Englander cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 In-Reply-To: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Jason Englander wrote: > > If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from > /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of > the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under > the Incoming-Folders= field. > > Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, > "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, > "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX > > This way, using incoming folders, you can still have the INBOX folder > in Pine, _and_ a folder to read mail directly from the pop3 server. > If you use the format that you saw in that Linux newsgroup, your > INBOX folder (now /usr/spool/mail/username) will be replaced by > {mail.yourisp.com/pop3}INBOX and it will bitch when you start Pine > that it can't access that folder. > > As far as using {/110}INBOX instead of > {/pop3}INBOX - you might want to go with the 2nd one. > Not every ISP uses port 110 for pop3. Thanks for the very informative reply, Jason. :) I never did get around to try to access my POP3 with Pine since I ended up downloading fetchmail and using that instead. Fetchmail picks up the mail from my POP3 and then you can do whatever you want with it after that. I'm going to be doing procmail stuff and routing mail to different inboxes, so fetchmail seems to be the better solution for me. I haven't configured it in daemon mode yet, so far I've just been executing it manually as such: fetchmail -u -p POP3 By default, it puts the mail that it fetches into /var/spool/mail/ Then I fire-up pine and read my mail. :) I'd recommend fetchmail for anyone accessing mail over a PPP connection from a *NIX box. It comes with very clear docs and practically sets itself up. Where to get fetchmail: ftp://ftp.ccil.org/pub/esr/fetchmail Cheers! _____________________________________________________________________ jint711@netcom.com Jint Systems Analyst for Tony_Guinta@Paramount.com ~~~~ Paramount Pictures |-| () |_ |_ `/ \/\/ () () |) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 18:32:23 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:32:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11732 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA26664 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA26660 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:27:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfclE-00038zC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 18:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: .sig at end? Date: 28 Dec 1996 15:24:03 GMT Message-ID: <5a3e2j$b7a@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> Stephen Lane writes: >hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have >a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my >.sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. >my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think >it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). Your sysadmin sounds kind of clueless. >anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix >user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and >the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve While in pine, go to the main menu, type 's', then 'c', then read all the wonderful config options. You will find one of them does what you are looking for. >-- >Steve Lane >Preferred Internet, Inc. of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 19:54:20 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA12457 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA29270 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:47:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA29266 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:47:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfe4L-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 19:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 11:39:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5a387f$o4d@news.huji.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5a387f$o4d@news.huji.ac.il> On 28 Dec 1996, Alexander Virtser wrote: > I tried to put pine as e-mail editor in Lynx, but when I write some > comment to some Home Page owner, I get something like this: > To: HGDS/DJHD/hgwd@math.bgu.ac.il Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of Pine. > Why? How can I make Pine to write in the To: entry the e-mail address of > the Home Page owner? If the home page has been set up correctly by the owner, this should be taken care of automatically. You shouldn't need to fill in anything. All you need the editor for is to compose the message, not the headers. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 21:54:12 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:54:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA13603 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01019 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 21:47:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from one (one.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01015 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 21:47:49 -0800 Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca by one (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA20688; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:47:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Paul O Bartlett cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > Pine. Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer is needed. How did they do this? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 22:33:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:33:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13892 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29735 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:27:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29731 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:27:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfgUO-000391C; Wed, 1 Jan 97 22:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: US-ASCII vs. ISO-8895 In-Reply-To: <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT References: <32c83a15.4437967@news.pconline.com> <5a9407$c75@hermes.acs.unt.edu> <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:01:18 GMT On 31 Dec 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > Alan J. Flavell (flavell@mail.cern.ch) wrote: > > It will indeed get rid of the warning. But the warning is there for a > > reason. If your terminal emulation is not, in fact, set for iso-8859-1 > > then it may cause the display of the incoming mail to be corrupted. > Not only will it get rid of the warning but it also lets pine display > ISO-8859-1 characters correctly. Only if the terminal emulation is also set for iso-8859-1. Which is what I already said. > I used to receive e-mail from Europe that > included some of those special European letters (äÇöß etc.) and Pine would > not display them until I added ISO-8859-1 to the character set field in Pine > setup. This only demonstrates that your terminal emulation was already set up for iso-8859-1. So, you don't have the problem that I was describing. But it's not such a good idea to recommend that to another, without explaining to them the issues that are involved. Could be that their terminal emulation is set to 7-bit US-ASCII, or maybe to DEC Multinational, or IBM Codepage 850, whatever. > All the English letters and numbers are included in ISO-8859-1. There > is no problem composing in English when using ISO-8859-1. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of course not. That was precisely my point. You have to be using iso-8859-1 (in your terminal emulation) if you want to configure it into PINE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 23:04:51 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:04:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA14213 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA01974 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA01968 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:51 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12342; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:47 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "James L. McGill" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Large folders take long to close In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII James, I don't have any immediate thoughts on the closing delays, but yes, you can access MH folders. See the Pine tech notes for details; the folder collection spec includes #MH/ but I forget the exact syntax. -teg On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > Pine 3.95 under Linux 2.0.27. > I noticed this as far back as the > 3.7x pine versions, but attributed it > to my slow computers. > > I notice that you mention the default mail folder > format. Do tell... can I use Pine with MH folders? > Can they be mixed? (e.g., inbox can be the default > format, but mailing lists can be mh folders?) > > Thanks! > > ------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > James L. McGill | NETCOM Interactive > Programmer / Analyst | Dallas, Texas > | -=[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]=- > ------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. > > > On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 08:43:50 -0800 () > > From: Terry Gray > > To: "James L. McGill" > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Large folders take long to close > > > > What version of Pine are you using? What OS? (I'll assume you're using > > the default Bky mail folder format.) > > > > -teg > > > > On 27 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > > > > > Even on a very, very fast machine, with a very, very large > > > amount of RAM, large folders (e.g., 2 months worth of linux-kernel@vger), > > > take a long, long time to close. They open quickly, but when I want to > > > change to another folder, it takes a very long time to close 'this' one. > > > > > > I'm talking about tens of seconds for approx. 2500 messages. > > > > > > -- > > > g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g > > > d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t > > > Every program has (at least) two purposes: the one for which it was > > > written and another for which it wasn't. > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 01:54:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:54:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15513 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02615 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:48:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02611 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:48:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:47:21 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19319; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:48:29 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:48:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Al Byers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using -i option In-Reply-To: <32B7FE9F.76D7@cfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Firstly, please try to be a little careful when writing comman line options in your messages to prevent confusing others... "-i" is _not_ the "initial keystrokes option" but is instead "start Pine in the Index Screen". The option you are really referring to is "-I" (ie, capital i). You can enter various "unusual" keystrokes in the -I option's list of keystrokes using English mnemonics. I enclose a list below culled from the pine/init.c source code file's "process_init_cmds" function (in which, if you have the source code too, you could presumably have found them too:-) SPACE (Space) CR (Return) TAB (Tab) ^char (Control+char) F1...F12 (function keys F1 through F12) f1...f12 (ditto) UP (Up arrow) DOWN (Down arrow) LEFT (Left arrow) RIGHT (Right arrow) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Al Byers wrote: > I periodically perform this exercise in frustration by asking if anyone > can tell me how to tab from one header field to the next using the > initial keystroke option, -i. From the console, the tab or enter key > works fine, but I cannot find a way to embed those keystrokes in my > keystroke list. I can get into the compose mode all right, but then it > interprets everything as an address. > -- > Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. > byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 > 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 01:59:35 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:59:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15538 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02670 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:53:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02666 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:53:55 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:52:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19678; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:53:39 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:53:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Please help us to help you by including what version number of Pine you are using and which platform (type of computer) it is for. It _does_ help! Anyway, your message included the following "Message-Id:" header line: Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ from which I'm _assuming_ you're using Pine 3.91 for OSF. So... Firstly you will need to upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95), which is available through anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Having got this set up you will then need to go into its Setup Configuration screen and enable the "print-index-enabled" option. Having done both of these you can then use the print command in the Index screen to print either the index itself or the current message (you get to choose which after giving the Print command). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > Is it not possible to print the Pine folder Index? As in all the screens > of the Inbox. I thought before that Y would do this, but apparently not. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 02:03:35 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:03:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15582 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04187 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04183 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:57:30 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19928; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:57:25 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:57:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tim Porter cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Using expanded-view-of-addressbooks ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sorry, but Pine's "expanded-view-of-addressbooks" is an all or nothing affair. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Tim Porter wrote: > > Hello! > > I am using Pine 3.95 on a Sun Solaris 2.5.1 system. > > I want to set up a number of global addressbooks for our users. I would > like users' personal addressbooks to be expanded automatically when they > enter the addressbook screen, but not the global addressbooks. > > There is an option in the Pine setup called expanded-view-of-addressbooks, > but as far as I can tell this can only be applied to all of the > addressbooks in the addressbook screen, not individual ones. > > Does anyone know a way of only expanding certain addressbooks > automatically, or am I asking for too much?? > > Many thanks, > > Tim > > --- > Tim Porter | t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk > Forestry Commission, | "Unless stated otherwise, all opinions > Research Division, UK | expressed are my own, not those of my employer" > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:12:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15654 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04359 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:05:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04355 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:05:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:04:23 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA20394; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:05:31 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Thomas Jess Bowers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto sort newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" And just to add to the Paul's response... * The "$O" command (or "Ordered Subject" sort key) is better for sorting newsgroups than just "$S" ("Subject" sort). Ordered subject sorting sorts first by subject text and then by date, thereby arranging articles sharing a subject into posting order instead of merely the order in which they arrived on your news server (often different!:-) * The "sort-key" variable in the Setup Configuration screen affects all types of folders: both Usenet News and normal (mail and/or news). You cannot have different defaults for News and normal folders. If you want different sorting methods for the two types of folder decide which sorting method you will use most frequently and set the default to that one, and give "$blah" command manually for the other type of folders. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Thomas Jess Bowers wrote: > > > How do I set pine to sort newsgroups by subject every time I open a group? > > I'm looking for a way to automate the $S key sequence and can't find the > > appropriate help screen. TIA, > > Simple enough. Just set the sort-key in your personal > configuration to sort by subject. That's pretty basic. If > you don't know how to do that, start with the online help from > the Main Menu. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:26:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15749 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04534 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:20:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04530 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:20:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:19:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA22516; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:20:28 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:20:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "James L. McGill" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MH-style folders? In-Reply-To: <5a1cnq$27h@fotd.netcomi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, Pine will handle MH style folders. A couple of provisos: * Pine must have been compiled to include the MH mailbox driver module (it gets this included by default, so you probably don't have any worries on this front). * You must name the folder properly when telling Pine its name. This involves including a magic "#mh" at the approproiate point in its name. You can find details by: 1. Start Pine 2. Give the List Folders (L) command 3. Ask for help (?) These help screens tell you about the List Folders screen and, further down, about naming folders when specifying them to Pine. (Note that the "#mh" string is NOT part of the filename on disk, just part of the specification string you give to Pine to identify the folder.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > Is it possible to use MH style folders with pine? > I am interested in using procmail's capability to > write to MH folders, but I suspect that Pine is not > able to deal with them :-( > > -- > g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g > d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15878 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04582 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04578 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:26:27 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:24:44 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA22777; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:25:49 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:25:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: rjk@beta.loyno.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: subscribe In-Reply-To: <5a1eod$jt8@news.dgsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I suspect that Russell's problem is really just that he sent his "subscribe" message to the wrong e-mail address... Majordomo@cac.washington.edu is th e-mail address for joining/leaving lists, whilst pine-info@cac.washington.edu is the list itself (anything you send to it gets e-mail to all the other members of the list). So I believe you want to send a message to Majordomo@cac.washington.edu saying subscribe pine-info The Majordomo software will deduce your e-mail address and name from the content of the headers of your message. For more details about subscribing see: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html Note that the Pine-Info mailing list is bi-directionally gatewayed to the comp.mail.pine Usenet News group. So if you prefer reading the articles through News rather than having them delivered to your mailbox you can do so. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Dec 1996, Paul B. Brown wrote: > Not quite, big guy! Try sending this to a mailing list instead of Usenet. > Also a better format would be: > > subscribe pine-info > > OR > > subscribe pine-info rjk@beta.loyno.edu > > Majordomo does not understand how to send e-mail to "Russell Johnson" but > does know how to send to "rjk@beta.loyno.edu". > > Luck . . . . > > Paul > > In article , > rkj@beta.loyno.edu (Russell Johnson) writes: > > > subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:43:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA19080 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07284 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:35:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from one (one.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA07280 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:35:03 -0800 Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca by one (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06183; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:35:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:34:23 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Completely Blank Messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's happened twice now in the past twelve hours, and while it's no big deal, it is curious to me. Twice, in the last twelve hours, I have come across an entirely blank message: no header, no date, nothing. Even a tap of the H command for the full header information reveals absolutely nothing. What does a completely blank message like this mean? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:42:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21085 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA10450 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:34:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA10446 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:34:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfq5c-00038nC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 08:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Timo Newton-Syms Subject: Changing user id in Pine Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:46:04 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is is possible to change the user id in Pine? Currently all my mail says it comes from tns96@vsonic.fi, as that is my login, but how can I change it to tns@vsonic.fi? I can change the domain, but that's of no use to me. Thanks for any help. Timo ___ ___ ' ) . __ __ ___ / / / ) ) / ) -------------.------------------------. / (_/ (_(__ /.... | Timo Newton-Syms | | Helsinki, Finland | |---R-o-l-l-i-n'--D-r-u-m--&--B-a-s-s-- ----------| | http://www.virtual-pc.com/timo/home Part of the W2-S Group | `----------------------------------------------------------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA22540 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA12010 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access4.digex.net (access4.digex.net [205.197.245.195]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12003 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:30:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access4.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA15385; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:24:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:24:42 -0500 (EST) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access4.digex.net To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Express Access Private Account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > > Pine. > > Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer > is needed. How did they do this? My best guess is that your Freenet is running some flavor of the Un*x operating system and that when you login, you get what is called a restricted shell. In other words, instead of having access to all facilities, you have access to only a restricted set of facilities, and it is set up so that Pine starts up automatically (this is easily accomplished by an administrator). I think this sort of thing is fairly common in freenets. In short, they are only providing a restricted set of functions, and that's all you get. In a manner of speaking, you may be confined to a box. Just how big the box is and how porous its walls are, I don't know. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:38:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24171 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA12020 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:34:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA12012 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:34:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfrv0-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 10:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: Terminal type ? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:46:18 +0000 Message-ID: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux 2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... Thanks in advance, Pau From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:09:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25068 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA14815 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:04:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA14805 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:04:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfsMh-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 10:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Hamilton Subject: ipop3d and $HOME/Mailbox Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, I want to store users mail in their home dirs and now I want to use ipop3d to retrieve mail from there. Is this possible? I don't want to have to use qpopper as I don't like it very much and don't trust it very much. Plus I like the IMAP<->POP3 features of ipop3d. -Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Hamilton Clintondale Aviation matt@clintondale.com http://www.clintondale.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:15:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25187 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13157 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:11:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13149 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:11:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (petek@localhost) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09466 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:12:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:12:02 -0500 (EST) From: Pete Koning To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: State of interrupted compositions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Quickly, we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would like an answer on: /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: (a) resume her interupted message, or is her message (b) lost forever? /pete ----------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Koning petek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca System Administration Ph:(905)528-4936 Hamilton-Wentworth Freenet Fx:(905)528-7578 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:31:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25595 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13557 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:24:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13553 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:24:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfsgW-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 11:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Re: monthly FAQ? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That is being done, around the middle of each month; last time was on Dec. 16th. See, for example (November's posting), URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.11/msg00379.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On 30 Dec 1996, Robin S. Socha wrote: # Because of the many easily answered questions in the last few days, was # wondering if it might make sense to mail the FAQ on a monthly basis. # # Just my 2 cents. # # Cheers, # Robin # # # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 # Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 # 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" # ... so I got myself Linux. # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # # # # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:43:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25900 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13967 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:37:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from simd01.md.ucl.ac.be (simd01.md.ucl.ac.be [130.104.5.110]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13962 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:37:47 -0800 Received: from student.md.ucl.ac.be by simd01.md.ucl.ac.be (8.7.3/SMI-4.1(MX version)) id UAA00767; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:37:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:34:27 -0800 (PST) From: Abel Francois 20649500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reading and posting internet news X-Sender: abel@simd01.md.ucl.ac.be Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got a problem reading and posting internet news on my 3.91 version of Pine. there's no "news-collection" in my folder list ! What can I do ? Francois ABEL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA26021 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA15882 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA15874 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:42:08 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Jan 97 20:41:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00505; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:11 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pau Gorostiza cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Terminal type ? In-Reply-To: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Pau Gorostiza wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Pau Gorostiza wrote: >Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux >2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: > > Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. > >Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any >references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... Actually, I've no idea what exactly goes wrong, but you might want to check the TERM option. Unix Pine uses the following environment variables: TERM Tells Pine what kind of terminal is being used. Please refer to the attached technotes for further detail. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:45:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA28706 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18829 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18825 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:52 -0800 Received: from homer15.u.washington.edu (homer15.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.16]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19204 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:38:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (sky@localhost) by homer15.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA103364 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Caver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I close out my e-mail service? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Today is my last day. I am moving off campus to work in another position. How do I disengage my e-mail at the end of the day? Pat Pat Caver sky@cofs.washington.edu http://www.cofs.washington.edu Phone: (206) 685-1457 FAX: (206) 543 6393 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA31424 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA21151 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:07:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21147 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:07:42 -0800 Received: from forbin.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id DA80C5B0 ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (pjwasho@localhost) by forbin.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22950 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: forbin.syr.edu: pjwasho owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul J. Washo" X-Sender: pjwasho@forbin.syr.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please lend a hand here! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It seems something's gone awry with the Spell Check feature in my files here . . . perhaps as a result of my own fumbled key strokes while composing a message. Can get Spell checking to "kick-in", but it now takes an unusually long time to complete checking on very brief messages, then spits out an indicator something akin to "user fork failed" and "too many processes". What have I done wrong? More importantly, how can I make it right again. Thanks in advance for your assistance. pjwasho@mailbox.syr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:09:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA32731 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22262 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:49:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22258 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfwrw-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 15:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Burgh Subject: Re: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:52:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Never mind. I found it. =) On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Eric Burgh wrote: > > I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my > sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the > config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing > something simple? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu > Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu > The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi > Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:40:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA00818 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA23707 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA23703 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:54 -0800 Received: from homer01.u.washington.edu (homer01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.11]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11878 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:33:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (jbolz@localhost) by homer01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA47256 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:53 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jane Bolz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Forwarded msg doesn't "wrap" correctly Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine: One of my users noticed this, and I don't know if there are any variables in Pine's setup/Config which will "fix" this or not. The situation is this: The original email looks fine on the screen, with the line-wraps working fine, but when a reply or forward is invoked, the lines don't wrap anymore and become too-long strings with the $ character at the end. This is happening when Jerry sends the email, so I've included the message so you can see an example. Is there any setting to "fix" or update??? Thanks, Jane ........................................................ . . . Jane Bolz | jbolz@u.washington.edu . . Publications Services | vmail (206) 543-7868 . . Computer Support | . . Box 359010 | . . Seattle, WA 98195-9010 | . . . ......................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:22:59 -0800 From: "Jerald L. Boesch" To: "'Bolz, Jane'" , "'Druliner, Dan'" , "'Fairman, Jeff'" , "'Kuhn, Mark'" , "'Ramey, Kellie McComas'" Subject: Mtg ... Tue 1/7 I would like to get everyone together on Tuesday 1/7 to review all IS projects and activities. 10:00 in the front conference room OK? Let me know. Jer. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jerry Boesch - IS Manager (206) 543-3845 Publications Services boescj@u.washington.edu University of Washington Box 359000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA02181 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA25291 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:41:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA25281 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:41:33 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Pete Koning cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: State of interrupted compositions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Pete Koning wrote: > Quickly, > we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would > like an answer on: > /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached > and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: > (a) resume her interupted message, > or is her message > (b) lost forever? Most likely "a". Howerver, I suggest you do the following since not all systems react the same.... 1. Login to the system. 2. Start composing a message with pine. 3. Walk away from the terminal (or whatever) and have a cup of coffee and a danish. (Wait until you get logged off....) 4. Login to the system again. 5. Try composing a message with pine. Do you get a message saying you have a postponed message? Some people would call this a "diagnostic" others would call it "testing". I like to call it, TIY..."Try it Yourself". Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA02667 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24540 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:15:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24536 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:15:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfz6m-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 18:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew) Subject: ignore: Re: .sig at end? Control: cancel <5a4h4k$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:58:16 GMT Cleaning up spew from broken gateway at nr1.vancouver.istar.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA03883 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA27553 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:30:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA27549 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:30:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1Gr-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 20:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5acjso$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 04:34:46 GMT Control: cancel <5acjso$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04155 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26605 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26601 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1ri-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <5absl8$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:25:05 GMT Control: cancel <5absl8$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. 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Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04141 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA28072 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA28068 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1sB-00038nC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <5absl9$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:25:06 GMT Control: cancel <5absl9$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. 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Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:33:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04260 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26849 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:30:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26845 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:30:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg2Bs-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: 3 Jan 1997 05:12:41 GMT Message-ID: <5ai4g9$g52@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >think they can. As an aside, there is a Unix POP client called "mutt" - do a Web or Archie search for it. Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:40:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04879 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29191 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:35:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29187 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:35:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg3Bn-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 22:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: Pine-os2 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32CC789C.5398@eskimo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:10:20 GMT I have a problem with pine-os2, it won't seem to properly write a message-id; it leaves everything off after the '@', so the message id's look something like '<000000.00000@> The pinerc file is proper, and has all of the appropriate domain names and all that happy crap. Has anyone ever used the os/2 port, and if you have, ever experienced this? -- ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:45:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04913 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29272 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29268 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:12 -0800 Received: from dante25.u.washington.edu (dante25.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.99]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA06244 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:41:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (tschultz@localhost) by dante25.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA54848 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: Teresa Kimberly Schultz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a new printer, an HP Deskjet 693C and I can't seem to print anything with it. I was printing before with my Panasonic KXP 1180 printer with no problems. Help. Traci From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:24:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA05526 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA29080 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:20:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA29076 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:20:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg4rB-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 00:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic response upon receiving mail? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Dwight Wilkins wrote: > A user recently asked how to have pine automatically > reply to pine, the example was if the user is on gone for an extended > time, the sender would receive a message that the user will be back in a > month, etc. How exactly would I do this? Pine will not do this. It is not designed to. Your user needs to invoke some facility which will do this _before_ Pine enters the picture, as part of the mail delivery process. How to do it will vary according to what operating the incoming mail will be processed on. For Un*x systems, you can use .vacation or procmail. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06033 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA29985 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:46:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29981 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:46:37 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:45:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA06984; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:46:20 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:46:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Matt Hamilton cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: ipop3d and $HOME/Mailbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, it is possible, although you may have to recompile the C-client library to include an extra mailbox driver, then relink Pine and imapd against the library. If this doesn't fill you with fear read on... There are certainly at least two routes open to you: one uses the "standard" ("Berkeley") mailbox format to store the INBOX folder (this is called the "mbox" driver); whilst the other uses a different format called Tenex (the "Tenex" driver). Tenex is included by default in the C-client library, so if you decide to use this one you won't need to recompile anything. The mbox driver isn't included as standard. You can add it by setting the EXTRADRIVERS variable in the "build" script (or is it in a Makefile? I forget!) to "mbox". I _believe_ you can also do it when you give the "build" command simply by changing this to: build xxx EXTRADRIVERS=mbox where "xxx" is your usual three character platform code. So which to choose - mbox or Tenex? (The following thoughts are purely personal observations; they may be added to/reversed by Others Who Know More Than I.) If you are already using the Berkeley mailbox format for your folders and are happy with its performance then you should probably use the mbox driver as this will keep things simple for you. If you are wanting a bit more "oomph" from your mail server you may like to consider the Tenex format. This is much more efficient in its memory use because Tenex messages are a fixed size (whereas Berkeley ones can change size as their status flags are added/altered). This fixed size allows the Tenex driver to build an in-memory index into where the messages are in the folder and access them from there; the Berkeley driver has to read the whole folder into memory and keep it there. There are a couple of Gotchas with the Tenex driver though: * For locking to work properly your Tenex folder(s) should be on a disk local to the machine running the IMAP server software (or your platform should have reliable locking across NFS/whatever ... something Mark Crispin really doubts exists (and so do I after some empirical observation)). This implies that your users' home directories must be local to the IMAP server system. * You cannot save messages from a mail folder in one format to one in another. This means you cannot use a Tenex INBOX and save messages from it to a Berkeley folder. If you already have Berkeley folders you will either need to convert them to Tenex as well, or put up with not being able to add more messages to them from Tenex folders. The recommendation from the Pine Team is to pick one folder format and stick with it for all your folders. So how do you use either driver? To use the mbox driver (having compiled and linked it in) you just need to create an empty file called "mbox" in your home directory. Pine and the imapd will spot this and rip all the mail in your delivery file (eg, /var/mail/username) and move it across to the mbox file. Newly arriving mail continues to be delivered to the delivery file, and gets moved across to the mbox file whenever Pine/imapd starts up, and periodically thereafter (whenever the check for new mail is performed). The Tenex driver is used similarly, only this time the empty file you create in your home directory must be called "mail.txt". It works in the same way as the mbox driver. [See below for a note about mail delivery and "tmail".] Gotchas? At one time we used the mbox driver but backed out from using it after finding a couple of problems... * Users were prone to try editing this mysterious "mbox" file with an editor or (worse) a word processor. I had to do any amount of patching up of these to edit out the header junk Word Perfect sprinkles at the start of the file. Until the file was fixed Pine/imapd refused to touch it (rightly) because it was corrupt. (Note that mail continued to be delivered to the delivery file in /var/mail/username for the user; Pine/imapd just couldn't transfer it to the mbox file for them to see it in/read it from.) * If a user ran short of disk quota and had a large message in their delivery file it couldn't get transferred across to the mbox file (insufficient quota left). This prevented the user from being able to read/delete the big message and all following ones until they had deleted enough files from their home directory to allow the big message to transfer across to the mbox file. (Needless to say this is a Real Fun Way for students to mess each other up! :-( What we did here... After backing out from using the mbox driver to store files in people's home directories (because of the above problems) we introduced disk quotas on the delivery directory (/var/mail). We give people a reasonable soft disk quota (0.5Mb for students, 4Mb for staff) with a hard quota which is double their soft one. This prevented people from letting their INBOX files grow indefinitely (some people seem remarkably loathe to delete messages from or save them out of their INBOX!). It also prevents accidental/deliberate mail loops filling up the entire disk. But then... We were having real performance problems after the latest intake of students. We traced this to now having around 9,000+ INBOX/delivery files stored in the /var/mail directory. So we decided to split users up into groups (we decided to go for a structure of /var/mail/NN/username, where NN is the last two digits of the user's UID). This *vastly* improved performance, and may be a possible solution to other sites having such problems who have staff confident of hacking the mailbox driver code to implement it (fairly straightforward changes, but just pray that you'll be able to keep the patches working against new releases of the Pine/imapd software!:-) Basically we fool the code into checking this /var/mail/NN/username area instead of the home directory when looking for the delivery file and/or mail.txt files (we haven't bothered about the mbox file as we no longer use these). The advtange is that this area is local to the IMAP server machine (hence avoids file locking problems over NFS), and is mounted anywhere else (so users can't edit their mail files with Word Perfect!). Whilst investigating all this we discovered the "tmail" program included with the other IMAP utilities (including something to convert between mailbox formats, eg from Berkeley to Tenex (or back!:-) ) This can be used as a pretty much drop-in replacement for /bin/mail, which most sendmail's use to actually write an arriving message into the INBOX folder's file. An advantage of tmail is that it built on top of the C-client library, and hence fully co-operates with Pine and imapd over mail file locking. It also knows about the mbox (if lined in) and Tenex drivers. This allows it to spot the existence of an mbox or mail.txt file in the user's home directory and deliver mail stright to it. This bypasses the normal delivery file, and hence the overhead of Pine/imapd having to move its contents across to the mbox/mail.txt file. Warning: I don't know how "supported" tmail is by the Pine Team. It seems to be developing (I have spotted a number of changes go by), but certainly don't assume it is fully operational and supported without hearing this from the Pine Team themselves. I hope this helps a bit... Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Matt Hamilton wrote: > Dear All, > I want to store users mail in their home dirs and now I want to use > ipop3d to retrieve mail from there. Is this possible? I don't want to > have to use qpopper as I don't like it very much and don't trust it very > much. Plus I like the IMAP<->POP3 features of ipop3d. > > -Matt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matt Hamilton Clintondale Aviation > matt@clintondale.com http://www.clintondale.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06083 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA01712 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA01708 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:58:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:57:19 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA08878; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:58:30 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:58:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pat Caver cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I close out my e-mail service? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Perhaps you should ask someone actually at your University (perhaps a local help desk?) rather than a random collection of people around the world who know nothing about your site or its computer systems? Cheers! -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Pat Caver wrote: > Today is my last day. I am moving off campus to work in another position. > How do I disengage my e-mail at the end of the day? Pat > > Pat Caver > sky@cofs.washington.edu > http://www.cofs.washington.edu > Phone: (206) 685-1457 > FAX: (206) 543 6393 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:04:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06106 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA01745 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA01741 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg6Nf-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 01:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roland Wenzel Subject: pineos2 not starting Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't get my pine working under OS/2. After setting up the variables I tried to start pine. It told me: Creating subdirectory "a':\mail" where Pine will store its mail folders. Error creating subdirectory "a':\mail" : No such file or directory But there is no option or setting to use a directory with this weired name. Any help is appreciated. roland -------------------------------------------------- This message has not been typed. Introducing VoiceType and Warp 4. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06110 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00330 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:02:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00326 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:02:32 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:01:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA09160; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:02:23 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:02:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Paul J. Washo" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please lend a hand here! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I doubt there's anything that you personally can do about this to fix it (indeed, I suspect it is probably already fixed... read on). "user fork failed" means that the current program (Pine in this case) couldn't start a subsidiary program it needs to run (in this case the spelling checker). This is because... "too many processes" means that your computer system has its maximum allowed number of program running simultaneously, and isn't allowing any more to start. You need to speak to the system manager of your computer to alert them to the problem. Only they can realistically try and sort things out (perhaps by rebooting the computer). Moral: Ask your local help desk for support/advice first! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Paul J. Washo wrote: > > It seems something's gone awry with the Spell Check feature in my files > here . . . perhaps as a result of my own fumbled key strokes while > composing a message. Can get Spell checking to "kick-in", but it now > takes an unusually long time to complete checking on very brief messages, > then spits out an indicator something akin to "user fork failed" and "too > many processes". > > What have I done wrong? More importantly, how can I make it right again. > > Thanks in advance for your assistance. > > pjwasho@mailbox.syr.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:38:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07129 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02792 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02782 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:33:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (pow@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id MAA02339; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:52 +0100 (MET) From: Pau Gorostiza To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Terminal type ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux > >2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: > > > > Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. > > > >Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any > >references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... > > Actually, I've no idea what exactly goes wrong, but you might want to check > the TERM option. > > Unix Pine uses the following environment variables: > TERM > Tells Pine what kind of terminal is being used. Hi, I used in the Linux command line, as someone told me in the PINE list. It worked immediately, many thanx to you all... Pau > Please refer to the attached technotes for further detail. > > Cheers, > Robin > > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ________________________________________________________________________ | | | Pau Gorostiza Universitat de Barcelona | | pow@giga.sct.ub.es Serveis Cientifico-Tecnics | | http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 | |________________________________________________________________________| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:39:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07137 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01364 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:36:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA01360 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:36:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg7tP-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu (David Krinsky) Subject: Re: Remote Inbox login. Date: 02 Jan 1997 00:53:36 -0500 Message-ID: <72681g1v33.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> References: <5ad3k1$uqo@animal.blarg.net> <72rak5gcf8.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> In-reply-to: krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu's message of 01 Jan 1997 19:15:23 -0500 David Krinsky writes: > However, many IMAP servers, including the U. Washington one, allow imap > logins to be authenticated using rsh. If /etc/imapd is a symlink to the My apologies. This should read "/etc/rimapd". Dave. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:54:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07251 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01537 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA01533 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg86S-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Setting up PINE on a LINUX box Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:26:12 -0900 Message-ID: References: <32CAF054.2A9B3E52@lucent.com> wao writes: > I tried to set pine (3.95) on my linux box so that ALL interactions > take place on my machine at work. The only thing I get to work is my > INBOX. I can read and delete messages but I cannot post or see any > other folders I have. My SMTP server and my login machine are different. > So I login to my smtp server with login and password (can I automate > this?) and I get my INBOX. If I try to open other folders I get > IMAP connection broken. My login and password are the same on both > machines (smtp mail server and my work machine). If I try to compose > e-mail (by pressing c) I get the same error as above. If I continue > anyway I get several move when I attemp to sent the mail. What am I > doing wrong? Thanks in advance. > > Bill Oswald > waoswald@lucent.com You might want to include a copy of your .pinerc file. I have a similar setup on my linux box, and it works fine. The only difference is that my SMTP server is my linux box (SMTP entry is blank), but my inbox is a remote machine, and I use IMAP to connect. I send mail from my linux box (From: header on outgoing mail has my IMAP server address) but receive mail on the IMAP server. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:55:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07264 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02989 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA02985 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg86a-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:33:30 -0900 Message-ID: References: toews@autobahn.mb.ca (Bruce Toews) writes: > > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > > Pine. > > Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer > is needed. How did they do this? > > Bruce The obvious answer is to check with them, and share their answer with us. Another possibility is to check with a lynx expert. There should be a lynx newsgroup group out there. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:30:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07532 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03554 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:26:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03550 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:26:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg8fB-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 04:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Setting up PINE on a LINUX box Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:43:44 -0900 Message-ID: References: <32CAF054.2A9B3E52@lucent.com> Allen R Sparks writes: > You might want to include a copy of your .pinerc file. > > I have a similar setup on my linux box, and it works fine. The only > difference is that my SMTP server is my linux box (SMTP entry is > blank), but my inbox is a remote machine, and I use IMAP to connect. > > I send mail from my linux box (From: header on outgoing mail has my > IMAP server address) but receive mail on the IMAP server. > === Al I should think before I post. Actually, pine does not have to be a daemon to do this. If there was a way to send a message from the command line using pine, you could put the entry in your .forward file. That being said, the "vacation" program I mentioned above is more sophisticated in that it sends messages to the same email address no more than once a week. So a user can send you repeat messages, and not get the same auto-reply for every message. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:36:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07577 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03775 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:32:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03771 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:32:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA30208 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:32:08 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:32:08 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there something different about installing Pine under Red Hat Linux 4 on a DEC Alpha as opposed to installing it under regular linux? I grab the file from ftp.cac.washington.edu, uncompress, tar it, type ./build lnx and get no compilation. Any idea wy? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:57:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07725 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03992 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03988 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:54:27 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:53:31 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:53:31 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > Is there something different about installing Pine under Red Hat Linux 4 > on a DEC Alpha as opposed to installing it under regular linux? I grab the > file from ftp.cac.washington.edu, uncompress, tar it, type > > ./build lnx > > and get no compilation. Any idea wy? I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you are seeing. When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA07965 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02925 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:35:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA02921 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:35:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA31928; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:35:15 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:35:15 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Edward M Greshko cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others > to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you > are seeing. > > When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does > that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the > system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? > > Regards, > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > Well, a whole bunch of stuff gets output to the screen, and it all goes by really fast. IT takes about three minutes, and there are some warnings that zoom by that I can't place. When all is said and done, there are no compiled files to run and no links in the pine3.95/bin subdirectory. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:09:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA08117 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA05261 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:53:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA05257 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:53:32 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:52:34 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:52:34 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > > I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others > > to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you > > are seeing. > > > > When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does > > that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the > > system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? > > > > Regards, > > > > Ed > > > > -- > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > Well, a whole bunch of stuff gets output to the screen, and it all goes by > really fast. IT takes about three minutes, and there are some warnings > that zoom by that I can't place. When all is said and done, there are no > compiled files to run and no links in the pine3.95/bin subdirectory. OK....well you need to capture what is going wrong. I suspect that the very last 10 lines or so of the build may give a clue to other. I don't know what shell you are using so it is difficult to judge. But you can try something like: ./build lnx >& build.out which may (depending on the shell) save STDOUT and STDERR to the file build.out. Then you can read what is going on and if need be send that as an attachment to someone more familiar with the OS you are using. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:22:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10208 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA04943 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA04939 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:16:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgCGD-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 08:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Re: State of interrupted compositions Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:32:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: (a). That's what happens when my system hangs and I re-connect. On 2 Jan 1997, Pete Koning wrote: > Quickly, > we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would > like an answer on: > /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached > and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: > (a) resume her interupted message, > or is her message > (b) lost forever? > > > /pete > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Pete Koning petek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca > System Administration Ph:(905)528-4936 > Hamilton-Wentworth Freenet Fx:(905)528-7578 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:47:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA13563 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08286 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:42:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA08282 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:42:11 -0800 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (kmk@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.102]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA14846 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kmk@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA24021 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: kmk owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Michael Kraft To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom It May Concern: Somehow my INBOX has become a read-only folder, and I can't seem to find out how I changed it. Subsequently I have not been able to delete the one message in the folder. Please let me know what I need to do to remedy the problem Thank you Kevin Kraft (University of Maryland student) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:17:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14251 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA09012 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:13:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leatherback.nist.gov (leatherback.nist.gov [129.6.16.31]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA09006 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:12:57 -0800 Received: from bfrl-104-13.cbt.nist.gov by leatherback.nist.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05246; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <32CD59FE.7BE2@wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:11:58 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Kraft" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This concerns the status of Kevin Kraft's inbox. The read-only status of the INBOX is not allowing me to receive messages so could you possibly send the responses to dry@wam.umd.edu or call 301 975-6701. Thank you Kevin Kraft From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:56:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17804 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14308 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14304 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:52:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgHWd-00038uC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 13:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) Subject: PINE as POP client Date: 31 Dec 1996 17:15:39 -0800 Message-ID: <5acdrr$l5v@crl.crl.com> Sorry if this is a repeat message . . . my news reader seemed to be having problems posting, so I'm trying with a different program. I had heard that PINE can read from POP servers by editing .pinerc. Is there a way to configure PINE to read messages from the server without removing messages on there already? If possible, please reply via e-mail. Thanks, Matt mwu@crl.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:56:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19257 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA14343 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:52:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA14338 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:52:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgIRE-00038sC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 14:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauls@cic.net (Paul Southworth) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: 29 Dec 1996 23:54:37 GMT Message-ID: <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >think they can. Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox Enjoy your treat. ;) --Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA19820 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA16532 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA16528 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:17:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgIrK-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 15:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rudy Moore Subject: save folder default names Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:16:39 GMT Message-ID: <5ak0g7$5o6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there any way to save a group of different e-mail addresses under a single folder name? Case in point is that more then a couple of my friends e-mail me from different accounts, I'd like to be able to save them all to the correct folder without having to manually type in the name of the folder. ie) Jonathan Price has price@cdw.brazil.com and lowry@central.services.net as e-mail addresses. When I hit 's' I'd like it to offer me [price] no matter which address he e-mails me from. But when I type 'price' in the to: field of a compose, I'd like it to always go to lowry@central. services.net. I've figured out save-by-nick-then-by-sender, but I can't have multiple addresses under the same nick, except by creating a mailing list. And I don't want to send to all of their addresses every time I send them a message.... Adding a "folder name" field to the address book would fix this quickly. Or perhaps keeping track of the folder name last used for a particular receive address and then offering that as the default the next time pine sees that address appear. This second option involves adding a new (or appending to an existing) configuration file and is probably more work but is potentially more powerful. If you don't know of any way to do this in the existing system, could you offer pointers on which files/what part of the code would need modification? I can program, but it seems like the pine-source learning curve might be pretty steep. Thank you! -- Rudy Moore a451j27 A023H12 "Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding." -- TMBG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:36:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA21341 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA16869 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:33:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fw.bluestone.com (fw.bluestone.com [199.99.173.252]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA16865 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:33:50 -0800 Received: by fw.bluestone.com; id TAA06029; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from blustone.operations.bluestone.com(204.107.210.200) by fw.bluestone.com via smap (3.2) id xma006023; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:33:30 -0500 Received: from psgserver.bluestone.com by blustone.operations.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09365; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:32:37 EST Received: from localhost by psgserver.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14459; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:32:32 EST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kiran Anantha X-Sender: kiran@psgserver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine access 2 imap servers? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I recently installed Netscape Mail Server on host2. host1 is the current imap server machine. If I set my inbox to {host1}, I can access mail on host1 and if I set it to {host2}, I can read mail from host2. What I would like to do is set inbox to {host1} and define a folder-collection for mail on host2 (perhaps as "host2mail {host2}[]" ?!). But, though I can login I cannot access my mail on host2.(I get an error saying empty folders). Is there something wrong with my approach, syntax? Would appreciate any help/suggestions/pointers to a FAQ ref, etc. TIA, Kiran. P.S: I can do a "g {host2}" and get to my mail on host2, so why can't {host2}[] be a valid folder. =============================================================== Kiran Anantha Phone: (609) 727-4600 (x1157) Bluestone 1000 Briggs Road Email: kiran@bluestone.com Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 Web: http://www.bluestone.com/ =============================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:26:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA22482 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA17950 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA17946 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgKkj-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 17:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:54:59 GMT Message-ID: <5ajv7j$lj9@news1.voicenet.com> References: <5ajgul$7kj@nr1.calgary.istar.net> In article <5ajgul$7kj@nr1.calgary.istar.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, William Morrow wrote: >Has anyone built 3.95 under Linux, without hacking at >the source? I think I managed to do it. Red Hat 3.0.3, running a 2.0.x kernel. Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:26:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA23058 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA20423 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA20419 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgLkO-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 18:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Smart Subject: automatic rename and delete of sentmail Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine documents say: You will get a message via Pine at the end of each month asking you about your sent-mail folders. First it asks you if you want to rename (and thus save) your current sent-mail folder. Then it asks if you want to delete any sent-mail folders (and all the messages they contain) from previous months and the current month. But PC-Pine has not done this for me in 3 months since installation. Any idea why? PC-Pine 3.95 running under Win95. The folder's name is the PC default "sentmail" rather than "sent-mail". Thanks, -- Michael Smart (416) 978-5119 (bus) University of Toronto Economics 978-6713 (fax) Toronto ON M5S 3G7 http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~msmart ========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:56:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA23818 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:56:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA20046 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:53:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA20042 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:53:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgN9A-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:15:16 -0800 Message-ID: <32CDCB44.7586@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> <32cd02b4.5766005@news.atlantel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Francis CHARTIER wrote: > = > Le Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci a > =E9crit : > = > >Paul Southworth wrote: > = > >Actually, i use > > > > inbox-path=3D{your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > > >and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > > >Does anyone knows why? > = > AFAIK, it is documented in the MAN page for pine 3.95 > Well, I use it cos' I read it somewhere, I'm no guru... ;-[ > = Yes, but the time I installed my PINE, 3.95 was a dream! I can't remember the release that I used, but I remember that I browsed the MAN and more, without find anything about POP feature. I came across the POP feature reading the PINE Web page; there was only a hidden and little note on how to do this but nothing else. This note has made the PINE fortune! In fact, here (CSD-UCLA) everybody seems to use Procmail with Elm. I, instead, I like the old POP fashion. Every time, POP gives me the same shiver of uncorking a bottle of CAMPAGNE! Happy new year. -- = ___ __ _ __ __ __ = /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu = / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU = ___ __ __ __ = / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 = / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:36:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA24137 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22062 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:33:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22058 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:33:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgNkG-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 20:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Dead-letter. Date: 31 Dec 1996 13:43:25 -0900 Message-ID: References: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Edward M Greshko) writes: > Some years ago the US government would broadcast an "informercial" > on TV and radio. The theme of these was "RIF". The meaning of "RIF"? > Reading is Fundamental. These broadcast were to extol the virtues of > reading for sake of knowledge. In this case, as in many cases, reading is > fundamental to understanding how/why things work as they do. > > So, in the spirit of "RIF", why not go to setup/configure and find > the option: [snip] > While you are there....why not spend a few minutes, as you say, > reading! It may save you having to ask questions and waiting for > some person to feel sorry for you and answer your questions. > > Regards, > > Ed What I don't understand is, if you thing it's such a PITA to help someone (for whatever the reason) why do it? I help people with computer problems for a living. I've found lots of ways to tell people to RTFM w/o being rude or snide. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:26:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA24620 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA21220 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:23:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA21216 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:23:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgOYw-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 21:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Subject: PGP AND PINE Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:23:23 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone tell me how to automac PGP into Pine, in other words use PGP and Pine 3.95 for windows. Any help apprencated. thanks steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:03:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA25215 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA23734 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA23730 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:58:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgQ1m-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 22:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@safetydisk.com (Gary Aikens) Subject: ONE MILLION CHILDREN..... Date: 03 Jan 97 13:24:35 Message-ID: <19970103182149578.AKV275@[205.187.61.2]> ...and pets are lost or turn up missing every year! Protect your loved ones today! Think about all the things you do to protect your loved ones. Isn't there one more thing you should do? Child and Pet ID Kits have been around for years, but most of them haven't changed with the years. Traditional ID Kits allow you to compile valuable information about your child or pet that you can use in the event your child or pet is missing. We are responding to the rapid changes in technology. We know that any ID Kit just isn't good enough. Our ID Kit is quite different! You supply us with up to three photos and pertinent information about your child or pet and we create a SAFETYDISK. In PC or MAC format, SAFETYDISK is a 3 1/2" disk that contains photos and valuable information that could help law enforcement agencies in the search for a missing child or pet. What makes our kit so unique is that each SAFETYDISK is actually pre-formatted for the World Wide Web. SAFETYDISK can be put on any Internet server within seconds and displayed to millions and millions of people who might spot your child or pet! For more information, visit our website at http://www.mvisibility.com/sd/ Thanks, Gary Aikens President, SafetyDisk, Inc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:32:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA25148 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA23231 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA23227 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgRSf-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 00:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Info on c-client API Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> There are basically three sources of information on C-client: - The file docs/Internal.DOC in the imap.tar.Z distribution - The examples in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z - The c-client@cac.washington.edu mailing list. To subscribe, mailto:c-client-request@cac.washington.edu It is also archived at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/c-client_archive --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8658.79 On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Rupesh Kapoor wrote: > From: Rupesh Kapoor > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Info on c-client API > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:25:11 -0800 > Organization: WhoWhere? Inc > Message-ID: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: biz.whowhere.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) > > Hi, > > I need help in locating the documentation on c-client api. The search > on the Web doesn't return anything useful. > > > Thanks > Rupesh > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA26028 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA24814 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA24810 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:33:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgRTB-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 00:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: Re: US-ASCII vs. ISO-8895 Date: 31 Dec 1996 18:53:10 GMT Message-ID: <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> References: <32c83a15.4437967@news.pconline.com> <5a9407$c75@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Alan J. Flavell (flavell@mail.cern.ch) wrote: > On 30 Dec 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > > In pine go to setup and then config. Scroll down until you find a variable > > named "Character Set". Add iso-8859-1 as value to that field.That will get > > rid of the message you desribed above. > It will indeed get rid of the warning. But the warning is there for a > reason. If your terminal emulation is not, in fact, set for iso-8859-1 > then it may cause the display of the incoming mail to be corrupted(*), > without any warning. Isn't it better to get a warning of this > possibility? Not only will it get rid of the warning but it also lets pine display ISO-8859-1 characters correctly. I used to receive e-mail from Europe that included some of those special European letters (äÇöß etc.) and Pine would not display them until I added ISO-8859-1 to the character set field in Pine setup. All the English letters and numbers are included in ISO-8859-1. There is no problem composing in English when using ISO-8859-1. In fact MS Mail uses this set by default (instead of US-ASCII). Of course, if you use ALL the special characters in US-ASCII extensively, I guess, ther might be a problem using ISO-8859-1 but I have never experienced it in my three years on the net. > (*)There won't be any corruption if, in fact, the incoming mail contains > only characters from the US-ASCII (7-bit) set. > When PINE _composes_ mail, on a configuration whose charset is > configured as ISO-8859-1 (or whatever the sender may be using), it will > detect whether the composed mail contains only US-ASCII, and send out > mail with the charset declared as US-ASCII if it can, and as ISO-8859-1 > (etc.) only if it must. > Some less considerate mail agents advertise their outgoing mail as being > encoded in ISO-8859-1, or ISO-2022-JP, or koi8-r, even when in fact the > content is nothing more than US-ASCII. > -- > best regards -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27310 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA26516 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA26508 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:15:04 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:14:09 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:14:08 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: Rudy Moore cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: save folder default names In-Reply-To: <5ak0g7$5o6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jan 1997, Rudy Moore wrote: > Is there any way to save a group of different e-mail addresses under a > single folder name? Case in point is that more then a couple of my friends > e-mail me from different accounts, I'd like to be able to save them all > to the correct folder without having to manually type in the name of > the folder. > > ie) Jonathan Price has price@cdw.brazil.com and lowry@central.services.net > as e-mail addresses. When I hit 's' I'd like it to offer me [price] no > matter which address he e-mails me from. But when I type 'price' in > the to: field of a compose, I'd like it to always go to lowry@central. > services.net. > > I've figured out save-by-nick-then-by-sender, but I can't have multiple > addresses under the same nick, except by creating a mailing list. And > I don't want to send to all of their addresses every time I send them > a message.... > > Adding a "folder name" field to the address book would fix this quickly. > Or perhaps keeping track of the folder name last used for a particular > receive address and then offering that as the default the next time > pine sees that address appear. This second option involves adding a > new (or appending to an existing) configuration file and is probably > more work but is potentially more powerful. > > If you don't know of any way to do this in the existing system, could > you offer pointers on which files/what part of the code would need > modification? I can program, but it seems like the pine-source learning > curve might be pretty steep. It seems that what you want to do is a bit out of scope for what/how pine was designed to work. I'd suggest using a mail filter program such as "procmail" for which you can design rather complex rules on how to save incoming mails. This should solve your problem without modification to pine. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27330 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA24977 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA24973 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:36 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:16:41 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:16:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Michael Smart cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatic rename and delete of sentmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Michael Smart wrote: > Pine documents say: > > You will get a message via Pine at the end of each month asking you about > your sent-mail folders. First it asks you if you want to rename (and thus > save) your current sent-mail folder. Then it asks if you want to delete > any sent-mail folders (and all the messages they contain) from previous > months and the current month. > > But PC-Pine has not done this for me in 3 months since installation. > > Any idea why? > > PC-Pine 3.95 running under Win95. The folder's name is the PC default > "sentmail" rather than "sent-mail". Thanks, Look in your pinerc file for the following: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.1 maybe it is set to some date in the far future? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:20:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA27977 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA26315 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:14:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA26311 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:14:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgVv6-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 05:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@safetydisk.com (Gary Aikens) Subject: ONE MILLION CHILDREN..... 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:37:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA28459 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA28629 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:34:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA28625 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:34:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgX7q-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 06:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:09:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Marco De la Cruz wrote: > Is there any way to make Pine automatically > highlight (or somehow mark) folders with > unanswered messages inside? In this way > I could tell at a glance (from the folder > list) where are the messages I have not > yet answered, instead of having to read > the contents of each folder... If you are using the default (or not too heavily modified) format for the index listing, then Pine will show you which messages are _answered_. Obviously, unanswered messages are those which have not been answered. :-) The format of the index listing (in later versions of Pine) is controlled by the index-format field toward the bottom of the configuration screens. There is a good bit of online help. If you take the default or specify STATUS or FULLSTATUS, then an answered message will have an 'A' in the status field. Just look for any message *without* an 'A'. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:29:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA29643 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA28867 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:26:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA28863 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:26:26 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 04 Jan 97 18:26:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00225 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:14:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:14:23 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pine user list Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Dec 1996, Paul Southworth wrote: >Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. > >Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox My pop account needs my username and my password as additional parameters. Is that possible, too? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:16:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30504 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01872 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:11:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA01868 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:11:34 -0800 Received: from gamera.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 30E34D20 ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (pjwasho@localhost) by gamera.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14582; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gamera.syr.edu: pjwasho owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul J. Washo" X-Sender: pjwasho@gamera.syr.edu To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Thanks for the help. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The stated problem has cleared itself since my last session -- spell check working as normal once again. Thanks for your assistance! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA31413 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA01878 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA01874 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:35:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgdgW-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 13:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine Messages Date: 4 Jan 1997 21:29:58 GMT Message-ID: <5ami4m$dmg@news1.epix.net> References: <5ahav4$4ko@news.huji.ac.il> Alexander Virtser (avir@black) wrote: : How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? : I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! Just answer (N)o when it asks. You can also disable that feature, but why not leave the option available? BYE ... John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:23:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31669 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA03901 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fvrl.org (secondnature.com [204.119.30.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA03897 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:28 -0800 Received: by fvrl.org (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.2) id ; Sat, 4 Jan 97 14:19 PST Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Mason X-Sender: judym@vanlib.fvrl.org To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing from pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have several Pine users. As far as I know all, except one, are having no problems. THE ONE, however, is driving me crazy. The problem is that when she prints the message, depending on the printer, the prin is so small you can't read it, or so big it can't fit on the page. She has no probems with other printing jobs, just from Pine. I've tried changing printers, no difference. I've tried changing the printer setups, nothing. To further confuse me, she is able to print from the Net, using Netscape. Thanks for any suggestions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31772 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02492 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA02482 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgecS-000393C; Sat, 4 Jan 97 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morpheus@calweb.com (Steve Lamb) Subject: Getting passwords saved on PINE Date: 4 Jan 1997 22:22:02 GMT Message-ID: I have got pine on my OS/2 box and it has a feature to save the IMAP name/password. I also want this feature on Linux and FreeBSD but cannot fine how to do it in the man pages. Does such a feature exist? -- - - - ---===+{ }+===--- - - - Steve C. Lamb @..@ 'Bud' @..@ 'weis' @..@ 'er!' (-==-)--/ (--==)--/ (--=-)--/ ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31775 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02498 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02494 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:55 -0800 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #18805) with ESMTP id <01IDTJC8PXJA95MNR3@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:35:53 MST Received: from localhost (tsb2@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.8.4/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id PAA14168 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:35:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:35:50 -0700 (MST) From: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin Subject: help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have about a million saved messgaes that I what to keep but I don't really want them printed out, and that takes way too long. is there anyway I can save them on a disk??? also, somehow I got myself on newsbanks of all kinds, they show in the folder list screen how do I get rid of them, deleting them one at a time would take 30 days. Thankyou!!!!!!!!!! tatiana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31912 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02680 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:52:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02676 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:52:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA12639; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:19 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can just download your saved-messages folder as a file and read it offline. Should work no problem. Bruce On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin wrote: > > I have about a million saved messgaes that I what to keep but I don't > really want them printed out, and that takes way too long. is there anyway > I can save them on a disk??? > > also, somehow I got myself on newsbanks of all kinds, they show in the > folder list screen how do I get rid of them, deleting them one at a time > would take 30 days. > > Thankyou!!!!!!!!!! > tatiana > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:23:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA32098 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02987 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from triton.kaifnet.com (gateway.kaifnet.com [203.127.137.70]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02983 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:19:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by triton.kaifnet.com with SMTP id AA25889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jan 1997 05:16:12 +0600 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 05:16:11 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: M Shariful Anam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: backgr mail sedning Message-Id: Organization: Kaifnet Services (Bangladesh) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was using Pine3.91, and have upgraded to 3.95. It's much more cool. But facing one inconvenience. When I send a mail in 3.95 by pressing Ctrl-X, it seems, it tries to send the mail to the MTA (on our case sendmail) immediately, which in turn return success after looking up the host name of the address etc. As a result sendmail mail has become a bit problematic, specially if some nameserver is down etc. So how I can I change the setup on 3.95 for complete background mail sending? I compiled the sources on a 1.2.13 Linux kernel. Please cc me too when replying if you're reading this on a newsgroup/mailing list. Thanx. --- M Shariful Anam Kaifnet Services -- Bangladesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:29:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA32133 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA04589 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:25:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA04585 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:25:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgfRT-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 15:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Strange Pine Error Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:28:03 -0800 Message-ID: <32CED973.5ADD@jamesclark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Often times when I am in Pine and I either send a message or try to Quit , I get this error message popping up: [New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes] Other times I get a message saying INBOX has been closed due to an access error. Can anyone give me any ideas as to what could be going wrong here? This happens quite a lot. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:55:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00680 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA05298 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:50:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA05294 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:50:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgicX-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 18:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: When All Else Fails Date: 31 Dec 1996 07:25:06 EST Message-ID: References: On 30 Dec 1996 21:33:01 -0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: > > > However, one thing you can try doing to see if your problem >is really a local MTA problem or another problem related to pine is to >go to setup/config and change the value of: > >smtp-server = > > to the hostname of a machine close to you. I mean you could >set it to "mit.edu" but then pine would have to talk to that machine and >it would slow things down a bit. Good idea.. But I remember reading somewhere that the latest versions of sendmail running today plan to (or already ) WILL NOT accept SMTP connections from any host just WILLY NILLY ! This , of course, is to avoid the slew of security problems that sendmail has been famous for in the past, including email masquerading, anon remailing, spamming, etc! And also, this would work only if the machine Pine is running on is DIRECTLY connected the the Internet. Now me, I am behind a corporate firewall and I can directly accss only machines within my domain (sob)! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA00892 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA07116 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:30:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA07112 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:30:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgjGn-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 19:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu (from alt.stop.spamming) Subject: cancel <5an5om$8ll$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Control: cancel <5an5om$8ll$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Date: 5 Jan 1997 03:22:53 GMT Message-ID: <5an6qd$8ll$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:45:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA00631 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05820 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:41:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05816 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:41:48 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 11:40:54 +0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 11:40:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: DearOldDad cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Messages In-Reply-To: <5ami4m$dmg@news1.epix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Jan 1997, DearOldDad wrote: > Alexander Virtser (avir@black) wrote: > : How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? > : I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! > > Just answer (N)o when it asks. You can also disable that feature, but why > not leave the option available? Actually, the way to do it would be to edit the pinerc file at the line: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.1 And set it to a date in the far future. As to "why not leave the option available"? Because that is not the behaviour the original poster wants, period. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:29:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA01218 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA06292 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:26:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA06288 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:26:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgk8Q-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 20:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: MIME Multipart Madness Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:18:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> {followup additionally crossposted to comp.mail.pine} On 3 Jan 1997, John R MacMillan wrote on comp.mail.mime (excerpt): [concerning mail with HTML attachments] > But the rendering resources _are_ under your control. Convince your MUA > that you would prefer text/plain to text/html in a message that is > multipart/alternative. Just for information, I use Pine 3.94 under a flavor of Un*x. Pine is MIME-compliant. When it receives an email with both text/plain and text/html using MIME standards, it can handle it. Unfortunately, by default it displays the unrendered text/html and tells me that the text/plain is in an attachment. It will show me this just dandy provided I go through additional keystrokes. So far I am unaware of any configuration option to Pine (at my version level) which will switch the order of preference. I subscribe to one mailing list in which this situation is beginning to show up more and more. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA01705 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA08328 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:21:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA08324 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:21:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgkwl-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 21:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:31:16 GMT References: Paul O Bartlett writes: > > Is there any way to make Pine automatically > > highlight (or somehow mark) folders with > > unanswered messages inside? In this way [snip!] > If you are using the default (or not too heavily modified) format > for the index listing, then Pine will show you which messages are > _answered_. Obviously, unanswered messages are those which have not > been answered. :-) The format of the index listing (in later versions > of Pine) is controlled by the index-format field toward the bottom of [snip!] Thanks! However, it's not the status of messages in the folder index which I was asking about, but of the _folders_ themselves. That is, is there any way to tell Pine to show me whether there are unanswered messages inside a given folder without actually listing its contents? Again, any help is thoroughly appreciated! _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02399 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09262 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA09258 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmEB-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 22:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmich01@curly.cc.emory.edu (Michele Ann Micheline) Subject: A Kill file for Pine?? Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:09:50 -0500 Message-ID: <5akhlu$b88@curly.cc.emory.edu> I REALLY need to set up a kill file for pine- iIget tons of unwelcome and lewd mail, and with a college account and no time to deal with it all it's driving me up the wall (I'm sure you are all familiar with this situation.) I'm running UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 and I am familiar with Pico editor. Any simple instructions would be great. Thanks so much- Chel Micheline mmich01@emory.edu -- __________________________________________________________________________ Chel Micheline * Film Studies http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~mmich01 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:47:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02424 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA07749 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA07745 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmEB-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 22:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf6sqa@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (WILLIAM F Eselby) Subject: Re: 2 Fcc folders Date: 4 Jan 1997 02:27:04 GMT Message-ID: <5akf5o$h30@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> References: <59c6aj$lh8@news1.halcyon.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Sorry, we don't have any way to have multiple Fcc's right now. You : should be able to work out using Cc: and a procmail rule though... : --DLM : -- : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8599.94 : On 19 Dec 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: : > I'd like to be able to specify two Fcc folders in PC Pine for : > Windows - one would be on my PC and the other would be on the : > Net. Are there any plans to allow this or tricks for how to : > do it now? : > : > Thanks, : > Nancy : > : > -- : > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< : > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ : > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) : > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < : > : > -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:27:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA02703 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA08262 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:21:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA08258 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:21:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmps-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 23:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: f.chartier@atlantel.fr (Francis CHARTIER) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 13:01:41 GMT Message-ID: <32cd02b4.5766005@news.atlantel.fr> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Le Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci a écrit : >Paul Southworth wrote: >Actually, i use > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > >and I confirm; it is undocumented. > >Does anyone knows why? AFAIK, it is documented in the MAN page for pine 3.95 Well, I use it cos' I read it somewhere, I'm no guru... ;-[ *---------------------------------------------* Francis Chartier f.chartier@atlantel.fr Quid Novi ? quidnovi@atlantel.fr * PAO * Pre-Presse * Photogravure * *---------------------------------------------* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:07:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03281 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA09384 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:05:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA09380 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:05:18 -0800 Received: by hd1.vsnl.net.in; id AA25903; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:36:07 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:36:07 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: MOHAMMED ABDUL QADEER To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:10:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03301 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA10805 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:06:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA10801 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:06:28 -0800 Received: by hd1.vsnl.net.in; id AA27435; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:37:18 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:37:18 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: MOHAMMED ABDUL QADEER To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:35:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04004 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11692 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:31:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11688 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:31:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgprd-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 02:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Berry Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 02:32:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: > Paul Southworth wrote: > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > Does anyone knows why? I think it has something to do with the fact that doesn't seem quite perfected, yet. Yes, it functions and all, but, one seems to have to restart pine in order to retrieve new mail. -- mailto:rberry@arlington.net or kevin.berry@chrysalis.org http://www.chrysalis.org/kevinb Note: All words from my account are my own and do not represent the views of StarText, or any of its affiliates. Check for my PGP keys on the servers as 0xFF92A22D, 0x122C2199, 0x08E821A9. Key fingerprint for key 0xff92a22d = CDE4096152DFBB9C-6192ACE4290CFC04. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:46:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA05000 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA11828 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:42:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA11824 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:42:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgrsA-00038yC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 04:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Wood Subject: print from pico Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 10:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <32CBD9BB.68E9@intermicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Pine 3.95 and Pico 2.9. I have set up Pico as an external editor and I can successfully ^_ to use Pico. What I would like to do is use Pico as an external editor from the main menu of Pine. I also want to be able to print from Pico to a system printer. In other words, Pico would be a great word processor if I could choose a printer. Any suggestions? -Eric Wood From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:06:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05702 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA14538 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA14534 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:02:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgu3j-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 07:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zod@walrus.com (Charles Hope) Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 Date: 4 Jan 1997 06:33:25 GMT Message-ID: <5aktjl$1lh@alice.walrus.com> References: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Jint (jint711@netcom.com) wrote: : On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Jason Englander wrote: : > : > If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from : > /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of : > the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under : > the Incoming-Folders= field. : > : > Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, : > "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, : > "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX I haven't tried this. I have pointed my entire inbox at the POP server by setting inbox-path={host/pop3}inbox. But then I either have to choose between by POP server or my local one, and not both. This method you have here is better (if it works for me.) How can you send outgoing mail through the POP server using Pine 3.91? Even with the method I have been using, still mail gets sent from my own account, and not the POP server. Thanks! Charles From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA06744 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA14891 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:57:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA14887 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:57:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgwlm-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 09:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ipop3d security.. Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:57:16 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Hynek Med wrote: > there has been a security hole in a POP3 daemon (some buffer overflow > problem), is pine's ipop3d safe from this? To the best of my knowledge (I wrote it), this is the case. The code is very careful when it is root, and it setuids itself to the user as soon as it is logged in. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:56:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA09510 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA20415 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA20405 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:18 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01490; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Kevin Berry cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's also because when most people think of POP, they assume *offline* access, which Pine doesn't do yet. (Pine uses POP in "quasi-online" mode --within the limitations of POP-- so the connection to the server is maintained during the session.) By the way, the Pine FAQ has a section on using POP. -teg On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Kevin Berry wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: > > > Paul Southworth wrote: > > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > > > and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > > > Does anyone knows why? > > I think it has something to do with the fact that doesn't seem quite > perfected, yet. Yes, it functions and all, but, one seems to have to > restart pine in order to retrieve new mail. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA09733 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA20688 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:18:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA20684 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:18:01 -0800 Received: by giasdl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Apr96-0134AM) id AA15316; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:51 +0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:51 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: SANDEEP SAXENA To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:08:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09329 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA21202 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca (cln.etc.bc.ca [142.44.5.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA21197 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:49 -0800 Received: from [142.32.104.225] (slippp225.dial.gov.bc.ca [142.32.104.225]) by cln.etc.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12147 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu">; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:04:29 -0700 To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cln.etc.bc.ca From: sallan@cln.etc.bc.ca (Sandy Allan) Subject: error saving configuration in file When using Pine on CLN I get the following message: error saving configuration in file"/home/sallan/.pinerc" Disc quota exceeded. Please advise as to how to correct this. S.Allan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:19:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10643 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA22166 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca (cln.etc.bc.ca [142.44.5.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA22161 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:14 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by cln.etc.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17479; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:13:38 +0800 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:08:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Sandy Allan cc: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cln.etc.bc.ca Subject: Re: error saving configuration in file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Sandy Allan wrote: > When using Pine on CLN I get the following message: error saving > configuration in file"/home/sallan/.pinerc" Disc quota exceeded. Please > advise as to how to correct this. This is an error which is "local" to your system. Your system is trying to tell you that you are using more disk space than you are alloted. You can do several things. 1. Delete some existing files to create more space. 2. Contact the system admin of your system and request more allotment. Hope this helps, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:29:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11741 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22067 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:24:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22063 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:24:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA08244; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:56:53 +0530 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:56:52 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Bruce Toews cc: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i am trying to load slirp or tia to optimise my shell connection. i am using pine 3.93 and have a 14.4 shell line with a p100 chip. now, i have downloaded slirp as shareware but those need to be compiled and i don't have a unix machine nor does my service provider very enthusiastic about the whole idea. so is there a way of getting a .exe version of slirp or tia. and what config changes do i need to make to pine? thanks and bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:13:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12215 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22596 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:09:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22592 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:09:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7Io-00038zC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juergen Frost Subject: Re: printing from pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:52:51 GMT On 4 Jan 1997, Judy Mason wrote: > ... > The problem is that when she prints the message, depending on the > printer, the prin is so small you can't read it, or so big it can't fit on > the page. She has no probems with other printing jobs, just from Pine. > > I've tried changing printers, no difference. > > I've tried changing the printer setups, nothing. > I'd the same problem. After some experiences, only "raw-printing" was possible (without some print-filter, no layout, mismatching of any special latin-1-chars). Now I've setup my own - working fine - printer: Enter name ...: MyPrinterName Enter command for printer: cat $1 > /tmp/tmp1 && lpr -Pyour_printer /tmp/tmp1 && rm /tmp/tmp1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this didn't work in pine as "Standard UNIX print command" (why?... I don't know) Hope, it was an usefull hit. Juergen -- Juergen Frost - juergenf@jfix.soem.thur.de PGP-Key available by eMail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:38:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12491 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA24369 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:34:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA24365 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:34:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7cu-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Date: 5 Jan 1997 10:20:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: Marco De la Cruz writes: >That is, is there any way to tell Pine to show >me whether there are unanswered messages inside a given >folder without actually listing its contents? If you're on a system that has egrep, you can do this: egrep "^X-Status: [^A]" foldername If anything shows up, you have unanswered messages. You could do the following to find out how many unanswered messages: egrep "^X-Status: [^A]" foldername | wc -l What this does is look through the folder for every line that starts with `X-Status: ' followed by anything other than `A' (which means answered. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:50:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12612 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22995 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:46:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22991 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:46:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7om-00038zC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (itbMpG) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 05:32:03 GMT Message-ID: <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> MASS POST--the program by Ones and Zeros--has been used to send this message to thousands of newsgroups. (itbMpG) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:40:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA13982 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA26533 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA26529 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:35:16 -0800 Received: from jasoneng (pm2-adr44.interl.net [205.244.161.44]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA30488; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:31:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199701060831.CAA30488@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jason Englander" To: zod@walrus.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:35:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) > I haven't tried this. I have pointed my entire inbox at the POP server by > setting inbox-path={host/pop3}inbox. But then I either have to choose > between by POP server or my local one, and not both. This method you have > here is better (if it works for me.) I used to use this method, it's nice to be able to read local mail and remote mail by picking another folder. ...now I use fetchmail to throw it all into /usr/spool/mail/username > How can you send outgoing mail through the POP server using Pine 3.91? > Even with the method I have been using, still mail gets sent from my own > account, and not the POP server. It's been a while since I used 3.91, but check if you can set 'smtp- server' in Pine's configuration. If it's blank, Pine will use the system's MDA (mail delivery agent) - usually sendmail or smail, but if you set it to something like 'mailhost.yourisp.com' it'll send the mail 'through the POP server'. If you mean, how do you get the From: tag to show your 'real' e-mail address, that's a whole other ballpark. You'll need to recompile Pine, but I think you'll probably have to upgrade to a newer version (3.95 is current) before you can recompile it to ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net Home: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux: http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key: homepage + pgpkey.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA14079 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA26683 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA26679 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhAht-00038uC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Re: The PINE Manual Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:33:59 -0800 Message-ID: <32CEDAD7.78E9@jamesclark.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit alewis@shell.mpsi.net wrote: > > How can I filter messages in Pine so that they are filtered into different > mailboxes upon receipt? In my experience, I have found that the Unix program Procmail handles this quite well. I use it to filter messages into different folders within Pine depending on who they are from or what subject is used. I also use it to filter junk/spam email to /dev/null when needed. I have a nice little blacklist going in my rc.maillists file. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:56:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA14112 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA25204 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA25200 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhAht-00038zC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Re: ABUSE: comp.mail.pine Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:31:30 -0800 Message-ID: <32CEDA42.5C0A@jamesclark.com> References: <5a7e9c$ptv$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From comp.mail.pine wrote: > > 7:30pm I received a very long junk email from John Lester, > gemsmaker@nicers.com. The letter was addressed to "From > comp.mail.pine". > > If you post to comp.mail.pine, be prepared to be entered on John Lester's > junk email list. The junk email that I received is appended to the > bottom of this post. Thanks for the warning. I've entered this prick's email address into my Procmail filter file, so now all his email will go to /dev/null before it even reaches my inbox. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:39:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA14388 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA27200 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:34:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA27196 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhBRc-00038uC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 01:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Subject: cmsg cancel <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Date: 6 Jan 1997 06:12:21 GMT Control: cancel <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: ONESZEROS Original Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (itbMpG) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:23:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14733 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA27576 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:11:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA27572 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:10:56 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:08:47 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA04280; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:09:52 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:09:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Lamb cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting passwords saved on PINE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" "No, but there is a better way"... PC-Pine offers you the option of saving your username and password because on the whole: a) PCs are single user machines and locked in people's offices and so can have passwords saved away in this manner; b) are untrustworthy in a general sense because software can be run by arbitrary users to make them do Naughty Things. The latter makes it impractical to use the more general protection mechanism that is used by the UNIX variants of Pine. This is the "rsh mechanism". Basically you need to do two things: 1. Set your IMAP server software up to allow pre-authenticated connections. This is done very easily simply by making a symbolic link so that /etc/rimapd points to the real imapd executable. 2. Set up rsh access to your IMAP server computer. This is a little trickier, and must be done with care. Bacially you need to tell the IMAP computer to "trust" (allow access without having to specify a username and password) from certain other hosts you use. This is the standard "rsh" command, which alllows you to execute a command on a trusting host without having to specify a username and password. It knows the username to use because of the wonderfully magic rsh software. Try reading your man pages about "rsh" (the command to do the remote command), ".rhosts" (the per-user file which controls access) and "hosts.equiv" (the systemwide file which controls access). (The latter two man pages may in fact be one and the same.) Pine tries to open a pre-authenticated rsh connection before failing down to a standard connection (to port 143) and prompting for a username and password. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Jan 1997, Steve Lamb wrote: > I have got pine on my OS/2 box and it has a feature to save the IMAP > name/password. I also want this feature on Linux and FreeBSD but cannot > fine how to do it in the man pages. Does such a feature exist? > > -- > - - - ---===+{ }+===--- - - - > Steve C. Lamb > @..@ 'Bud' @..@ 'weis' @..@ 'er!' > (-==-)--/ (--==)--/ (--=-)--/ > ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ( >__< ) > ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:24:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14744 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA27704 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:19:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA27699 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:19:01 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:16:06 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA08041; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:17:08 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:17:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: M Shariful Anam cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: backgr mail sedning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" When you compiled Pine did you find and uncomment the "BACKGROUND_POST" definition within the pine/osedp/os-xxx.h file? If this *EXPERIMENTAL* feature is supported on your flavour of UNIX you should then have an "enable-background-sending" option in your Setup Configuration screen. See the Release Notes ("R" at the Main Menu) for more information (search for "background" by giving the command "W" then "backgorund".). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, M Shariful Anam wrote: > Hi, > > I was using Pine3.91, and have upgraded to 3.95. It's much more cool. But > facing one inconvenience. When I send a mail in 3.95 by pressing Ctrl-X, > it seems, it tries to send the mail to the MTA (on our case sendmail) > immediately, which in turn return success after looking up the host name > of the address etc. As a result sendmail mail has become a bit > problematic, specially if some nameserver is down etc. So how I can I > change the setup on 3.95 for complete background mail sending? > > I compiled the sources on a 1.2.13 Linux kernel. > > Please cc me too when replying if you're reading this on a > newsgroup/mailing list. > > Thanx. > > --- > M Shariful Anam > > Kaifnet Services -- Bangladesh > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:54:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA16402 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA28801 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA28797 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhFQc-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 05:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: PC Pine 3.95 & POP-MAIL Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:22:21 -0800 Message-ID: <32CDCCED.2C1C@cs.ucla.edu> References: <01bbf9a1$751b60c0$5e7a48a6@chester.rcc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chester Paul Sgroi wrote: > > Greetings: > > I have just installed and am trying to properly configure the 32-bit > version of PC Pine 3.95 to retrieve mail from my ISP's POP-Mail server. I > am running Windows 95 and have setup all the fields accordingly. However, > my ISP's mail server keeps on refusing the connection to my Pine client. > > In the INBOX field within my .pinerc file I specified the syntax as: > > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net} INBOX > > When I then run Pine, it comes up with the error: Can't connect to > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net}143, refused 100061. > > I then tried an unsupported hack mentioned earlier in this group by > specifiying the inbox path as > > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/110} INBOX > > and received the error message "Invalid remote specification". PINE (for UNIX) has got POP feature. I use it! I do not know about PINE for PC. Chek carefully the PINE WEB page. Try to replace 110 with pop3. -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:15:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA17145 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA01142 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:10:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA01138 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:10:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhGeP-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 07:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sudharshan. S." Subject: Re: help Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 16:53:34 +0500 Message-ID: <32D0E7BE.6D4D@inf.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kevin, Kevin Michael Kraft wrote: > > To Whom It May Concern: > > Somehow my INBOX has become a read-only folder, and I can't seem to find > out how I changed it. Subsequently I have not been able to delete the one > message in the folder. > Please let me know what I need to do to remedy the problem Check the permissions of your INBOX (could be /usr/mail/kmk). Make sure that it has 'rw' permissions for yourself and the group. Hope it helps, Sudharshan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:10:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18551 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA00524 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA00520 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:05:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhHXh-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 08:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leslie@interpac.net Subject: Saving Email Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 05:08:15 GMT Message-ID: <5afn2l$eqi@pegasus.interpac.net> I'm new to Pine and would like to know if I can save my messages to a floppy disk. I'm going to the mainland and would like to be able to save my important messages. Also, when I start to type each letter is duplicated. Does that have something to do with the echo setting? My newserver is VERY unreliable. Would you also send an email reply to me at leslie@interpac.net. Thanks, Leslie aka DitzyB From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA19470 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA02742 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:32:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from whitman.gmu.edu (whitman.gmu.edu [129.174.177.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA02737 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:32:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (jblackto@localhost) by whitman.gmu.edu (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA12619 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:32:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: Master of Mayhem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Anonymous e-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to know how to send an anonymous e-mail message. It's for a project that I'm doing in my Computer Applications class with Jeremy Sidman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:09:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20345 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03523 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:04:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03507 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:04:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA13861; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:37:06 +0530 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:37:06 +0530 (IST) From: Sarawgi Vipul X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Master of Mayhem cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: alt editor. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i am trying to use slirp to enhance the capability of my shell account. however i presume i need to make certain changes in pine with respect to the alternate editor parameter for the same. the editor available on my server is pico. i would be thankful to receive any tips regarging this. ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:19:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20688 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03917 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:15:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03911 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:15:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhIbP-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 09:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldt@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Sven Goldt) Subject: To save disk space... Date: 2 Jan 1997 09:57:05 GMT Message-ID: <5ag0ph$mbl@sunsystem5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Hi, is there a way to make pine not asking this famous question and just keep the old messages ? Sven -- The only limits are in your mind ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22780 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA04445 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA04441 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhJm8-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: VAL RAUCH Subject: Can I save or export part of an e-mail message only? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:50:10 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When reading a long message sometimes I would like to save a few lines only to a folder. How can one do this ? I am currently forwarding the message to myself with the unwanted portion deleted. This is rather cumbersome if the message is several pages long and I only want to save 5 lines of it. Any helpful pointers, suggestions ? Thanks, Val From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:42:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22847 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA06233 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:37:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw1.att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA06229; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:37:01 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by kcig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id MAA28511; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:31:36 -0600 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17915; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:36:50 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:36:46 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Pine Developers Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID IG4Y8): Mouse support in Pine 3.95 in an Xterm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 in an Xterm window. I am using 'vim' editor as my alternate editor all the time. Problem: Whenever I first launch up Pine with all the mouse features enabled, it works fine and recognizes my mouse clicks and takes the appropriate action. Now when I compose a new mail or a reply, an action which fires up my alternate editor, this editor is also mouse-aware. It interprets my mouse clicks and does with it whatever it is designed to do. When I exit the editor and send the reply/mail and go back to the main Index window, or any other Pine screen, my mouse clicks are totally ignored. Pine seems to have lost control of the mouse! When I now exit Pine and launch it again, the whole scenario is repeated. i.e. it initially is mouse-aware, but as soon as I launch a editor that is also mouse-aware, Pine loses the battle! I use the 'slrn' newsreader with 'vim' , both of which are mouse-aware programs and I dont have this problem there! Looks like something peculiar to Pine 3.95. Please look into it and let me know what can be done. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA27557 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA11033 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA11027 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:09 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24477 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:07 -0800 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26837 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from pfizer.com (pfizergate.pfizer.com [192.77.198.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA16487 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:09 -0800 X-Received: from gsun07.Clinical by pfizer.com (SMI-8.6/3.1.090690-Pfizer Inc) id AAA11795; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:21:24 GMT X-Received: from gsun07 by gsun07.Clinical (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12236; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: <32CDA191.B05@groton.pfizer.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:17:21 -0500 From: hp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Building/installing to Sunos5.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------594771FC3BAB" ReSent-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:27:59 -0800 (PST) ReSent-From: David L Miller ReSent-To: Pine Info Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install PINE and PICO on a SunOS5.5.1 platform run on sparcserver 1000e machines. First I run "build clean" Then I run "build sun" with the results below. Can someone tell me what is going wrong? It gives me Error 1 and Error 2 saying some files aren't there. --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="junk" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="junk" gsun07//home/parkh/pine3.95 % build sun make args are "CC=cc " ln: cannot create c-client: File exists ln: cannot create imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sun make[1]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' echo sun > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sun make[2]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make mtest OS=sun EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE " \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" make[3]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE > CFLAGS echo -ldl > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sun.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mail.c In file included from mail.c:40: osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mail.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: *** [sun] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' make: *** [sun] Error 2 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -g -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl -DMOUSE attach.c In file included from attach.c:33: osdep.h:58: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [attach.o] Error 1 Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sun.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSUN -DSYSTYPE=\"SUN\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:65, from addrbook.c:54: ../c-client/osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: build: size: not found Done --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="junk" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="junk" gsun07//home/parkh/pine3.95 % build sun make args are "CC=cc " ln: cannot create c-client: File exists ln: cannot create imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sun make[1]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' echo sun > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sun make[2]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make mtest OS=sun EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE " \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" make[3]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE > CFLAGS echo -ldl > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sun.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mail.c In file included from mail.c:40: osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mail.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: *** [sun] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' make: *** [sun] Error 2 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -g -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl -DMOUSE attach.c In file included from attach.c:33: osdep.h:58: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [attach.o] Error 1 Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sun.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSUN -DSYSTYPE=\"SUN\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:65, from addrbook.c:54: ../c-client/osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: build: size: not found Done --------------594771FC3BAB-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28061 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA11606 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:47:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA11602; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:47:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA29626; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:45:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:45:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: hp Cc: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu, David L Miller , Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Building/installing to Sunos5.5.1 In-Reply-To: <32CDA191.B05@groton.pfizer.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try building for Solaris, not Sun. If you have GCC installed, type "build gso" if not, type "build sol". ##### Jim Amanatidis Tel: 516-576-2329 Email: jima@aip.org Fax: 516-349-7669 On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, hp wrote: > I am trying to install PINE and PICO on a SunOS5.5.1 platform > run on sparcserver 1000e machines. > > First I run "build clean" > > Then I run "build sun" with the results below. Can someone tell > me what is going wrong? It gives me Error 1 and Error 2 > saying some files aren't there. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:41:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29400 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA12906 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA12902 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhNa5-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 6 Jan 1997 22:11:40 GMT Message-ID: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> I'm using Pico 2.9 (because unlike many other editors it does automatic line wrapping) as my default editor for nn 6.5.1. Now when I'm writing an article which contains a header line longer than 255 or 256 characters (I'm not exactly sure) this line gets cut off, meaning only the first 255 or 256 characters are imported into the editor. Such a situation can occur for exaple for the References: line when doing a followuop to a faily long thread. Needless to say it's not nice to have that line being chopped off. What can I do about it short of using a different editor? Maybe recompiling pine? Is there any version of pine which does not have a fixed maximum of characters per line? What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news or email header line is supposed to have? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30199 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA12334 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA12330 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhO5E-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: PINE vs EUDORA ! Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get access to my Unix server by phone with a MAC. Connecting in VT100 i have instructed my MAC VT 100 teminal emulation program to start PINE and put username and password automatically. Please note, MAC runs a simply, tiny VT100 emulation program, not a Mail program (such as EUDORA) in TCP/IP which requires a Powerful hardware (>386). THIS MEANS THAT YOU REQUIRE A SIMPLY VERY OLD MAC OR EVEN 8088 (XT!!) TO CHECK AND WRITE YOUR MAIL. Not only, you do not require even TCP/IP support, that normally it is not freeware. AND you need just a inexpensive 1200 or 2400 baud modem! Not a 14400 or more. If the Unix server has got LYNX capability, YOU CAN EVEN NAVIGATE THE NET WITH THIS SIMPLY EQUIPEMENT (of course without graphic. Do you really need it?). Note that if your terminal emulator has got Z-maodem capability, when LYNX use ftp instead of http, Lynx is capable to download files from the net in the Unix server but also, on request, to download them, in Z-modem protocol, from the net directly in you local terminal. Do you need more ? :-/ -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:18:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30360 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13885 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA13881 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhO8S-00038ZC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Nicholson Subject: How do I add a custom header on _all_ outgoing messages? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 20:31:58 +0000 Message-ID: <32D1613E.1941@dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know how I can add a custom header to all outgoing messages in pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:41:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30899 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13092 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:36:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA13088 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:36:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhOWH-00038VC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Anonymous e-mail Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:18:50 GMT Message-ID: <5as18q$i0j@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article jblackto@whitman.gmu.edu (Master of Mayhem) wrote: > I need to know how to send an anonymous e-mail message. It's for a > project that I'm doing in my Computer Applications class with Jeremy > Sidman Without hacking the code, it is not possible to send an anonymous e-mail with pine. You'll have to use other means...which is out of scope for this discussion group. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:51:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA31120 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13332 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:46:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA13314 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:45:55 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:45:03 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:45:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Robert Nicholson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I add a custom header on _all_ outgoing messages? In-Reply-To: <32D1613E.1941@dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Anybody know how I can add a custom header to all outgoing messages in > pine? What version of pine are you using? If you go to setup/config add search for the word "custom" you may find: OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. (BTW, some people call that RIF (Reading Is Fundamental) while others call it RTFM (I won't translate that one....) but if I (or others) were to say that we would risk being compared to a type of pocket bread). (More, BTW. Kind of ignore the last paragraph. It refers back to a pervious post...but I just had to get it out. Sorry. No offence intended or implied.) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:16:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA31558 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA15499 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:11:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA15495 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:11:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhP4E-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Reading HTML from 3.95 Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:27:54 GMT Message-ID: <5as1pq$j4m@cdshub.cdc.com> References: <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> In article <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> Heather Flanagan wrote: > Well, everything else seems to be working with our Pine 3.95 install on > Solaris 2.5.1, so why can't we view html format files? Any suggestions > on how to make pine thing html is just another text file? I need to do > this system-wide, so if it's a configuration I need to add or change in > the pine.conf file, that would be lovely. Good questions.... 1. You can't view html format "files" since the builtin editor of pine is not html aware. So, the MIME designation of text/html is not supported via a builtin method. 2. To view html format "file" you will need to make use of a mailcap file. The mailcap file is used to designate a mapping between an MIME type/sub-type and an external application. I don't happen to have the documentation handy on the format of mailcap entries. You should first check the pine release notes and then the "mailcap" entry in setup/config to see if they posess pointers to additional information. If not, feel free to email me directly and I'll do some digging for you. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:30:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA31894 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA14077 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA14073 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:21:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhPFu-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: exporting attachments Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:37:31 GMT Message-ID: <5as2br$jr9@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article Paul Lunney wrote: > Is there any way to configure PINE such that when messages are exported, > any associated attachments are automatically converted to a uue(?) format > and stay with the export file? Exported? No. Why not "save" the messages to a file. This will save the entire message (header included) into a file as is. This means, of course, that if the attachments were MIME attachments they will still be MIME. Pine is not configurable to convert between MIME formated and uuencoded messages. > I get a lot of mail which currently I only have time every day to export > to a digest, delete, and read off-line. Problem is that attachments are > lost. > > Alternatively is there some way of configuring PINE to indicate which > posts have attachments on the index listing? No, not in the current release. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:40:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA32140 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA16121 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA16117 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:36:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhPV2-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <32CF554A.6D89@lgx.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:16:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: MIME Multipart Madness References: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Just for information, I use Pine 3.94 under a flavor of Un*x. Pine > is MIME-compliant. When it receives an email with both text/plain and > text/html using MIME standards, it can handle it. Unfortunately, by > default it displays the unrendered text/html and tells me that the > text/plain is in an attachment. It will show me this just dandy > provided I go through additional keystrokes. So far I am unaware of > any configuration option to Pine (at my version level) which will > switch the order of preference. I subscribe to one mailing list in > which this situation is beginning to show up more and more. I can't remember the exact settings, but you CAN do it in your mailcap file so that text.plain gets shown instead of text/html. Wim. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00758 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16269 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:56:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16265 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:56:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhQkS-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 17:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:38:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> On 28 Dec 1996, Bill D wrote: > In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup > comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten > wrote: > > >How can i send 1000s of emails ?? > > type > > 'rm -rf * pine' It should be noted this command should only be used if you want to sent truly mass mailings. If you just want to send mail to a dozen friends or so this command will not work. But if you want to send mail to 1000s (or 10000s) of strangers around the world, I enthusiastically recommend this. If your system administrator or ISP might object to you sending such mail, you should not ask about the readmail (rm) command before doing this, because they might get suspicious. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:30:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00488 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18267 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:26:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA18263 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:26:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhRDn-00038VC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 18:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: Re: Terminal type ? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:02:30 +0000 Message-ID: <32CBA3D6.1D1B@giga.sct.ub.es> References: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> <83zpyt8hil.fsf@odezia.thorsen.priv.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anders Jacobsen wrote: > Try (on the Linux prompt): > export TERM="vt100" It worked! Many thanks and happy new year... Pau > _______________________________________________________________________ > Anders Jacobsen andersja@stud.ntnu.no > Stud.Techn., NTNU http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~andersja/ > Fakultet for fysikk, informatikk og matematikk, NTNU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:19:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA01383 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA17399 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:16:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA17395 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:16:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhS1D-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 19:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysaakx@panther.gsu.edu (Andrew A. Kincaid) Subject: Zero byte "pinercXXXXXX" files? Date: 3 Jan 1997 19:01:39 GMT Message-ID: <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> Does anyone know why Pine 3.95 (in Unix) would create these "pinerc021178" files out in user's home directories? -- Oh, and they are 0 bytes big. Does anyone know what these are, and how to stop them from being created? Thanks, Andrew Kincaid andru@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:16:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03371 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA21455 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA21451 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:12:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhUhT-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dodegaar@skypoint.com Subject: 3.95 problem any help? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:23:29 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine Peoples: I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. I have done these things: (1st - it is run on Unix) rebuilt .newsrc file thrown out .tin file re-configured all pine in Setup with proper nntp settings. waddaya tink? d. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:53:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03759 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA22027 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA22020 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:02 -0800 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA17608; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:01 -0800 Received: from sdn-ts-001njnewap13.dialsprint.net(206.133.36.32) by mailfep1-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.4/Q_12805_1_32d1f1ea; Mon Jan 6 22:49:14 1997 Message-ID: <32D18386.5189@sprintmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:58:14 -0800 From: Mikhail Gorvits Organization: GVI Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-SI001A01 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: current line obscured Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Pine Users, I use pine on a college unix system, to which I telnet from my home computer. The problem I run into is the obscured current line. Whenever I move my cursor to any given line, in most of the interactive pine screens, the cursor, instead of blinking at the start of the line, brings with it a bar (of the same color as the text) which obscures the whole line. This means, for example, that I can't see the current message information in the inbox, and have to move to the next, or previous, message to read it. I also can't see the status line or the command keys in the command lines at the bottom. More importantly, I can't read the line that pops up at the bottom when pine requires more information from me or doesn't understand my command. Thus I don't know what pine is telling me, besides the few basic communications that I am familiar with. I would really appreciate if somebody who thinks they know what this problem could be would contact me. Is this a function of pine or my telnet program? As I am not a subscriber to the list, please reply to me directly at vitz@eden.rutgers.edu I thank all of you for your attention and apologize for the distraction. Sincerely, David Gorvits From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:55:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02601 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA20555 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA20551 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:52:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhVKS-00038XC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Heather Flanagan Subject: Reading HTML from 3.95 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 12:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, everything else seems to be working with our Pine 3.95 install on Solaris 2.5.1, so why can't we view html format files? Any suggestions on how to make pine thing html is just another text file? I need to do this system-wide, so if it's a configuration I need to add or change in the pine.conf file, that would be lovely. Thanks! heather f. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03788 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA22062 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:54:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA22058 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:54:12 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:53:20 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:48:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: dodegaar@skypoint.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 dodegaar@skypoint.com wrote: > I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want > to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. > > I have done these things: > > (1st - it is run on Unix) > > rebuilt .newsrc file > thrown out .tin file > re-configured all pine in Setup with proper nntp > settings. > > waddaya tink? I tink you should tell us what the "error message" is..... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:42:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA04191 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA22740 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:33:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22736 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:33:18 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:32:26 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:27:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mikhail Gorvits cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: current line obscured In-Reply-To: <32D18386.5189@sprintmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Mikhail Gorvits wrote: > Dear Pine Users, > I use pine on a college unix system, to which I telnet from my > home computer. The problem I run into is the obscured current line. > Whenever I move my cursor to any given line, in most of the interactive > pine screens, the cursor, instead of blinking at the start of the line, > brings with it a bar (of the same color as the text) which obscures the > whole line. This means, for example, that I can't see the current > message information in the inbox, and have to move to the next, or > previous, message to read it. I also can't see the status line or the > command keys in the command lines at the bottom. More importantly, I > can't read the line that pops up at the bottom when pine requires more > information from me or doesn't understand my command. Thus I don't know > what pine is telling me, besides the few basic communications that I am > familiar with. > I would really appreciate if somebody who thinks they know what > this problem could be would contact me. Is this a function of pine or my > telnet program? As I am not a subscriber to the list, please reply to me > directly at vitz@eden.rutgers.edu > I thank all of you for your attention and apologize for the > distraction. The fact that your "highlight" (bar) color is the same color as the characters is normally a setting in your telnet client. If you can't figure out how to fix your telnet client then try going to setup/config and setting: [ ] assume-slow-link It will replace the highlight with ">". Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04565 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21936 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:33:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdla.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21932 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:33:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA06451; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:54:17 +0530 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:54:17 +0530 (IST) From: MANMEET SINGH X-Sender: singhm@giasdla To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reporting a problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear sir I have received an e-mail from New York University school of medicine. It has a message with 4 attachments: 16KB textonly, 16KB dostext, 24KB dostext and 24KB worddoc. All these attachments are in OCTET-STREAM. These can't be viewed by the Pine software on which my connection is working. The attachments have been saved in the home directory. Information displayed about the attachments is as follows Type Application Subtype OCTET STREAM Encoding BASE64 Parameters Name= Textonly Description " " Approx. size 16,402 bytes Display method can't, unknown attachment format I shall be grateful if any body is able to fix the bug, and also help me know how to view and copy the files from home directory. With regards Gurcharan Singh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:02:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04795 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA22279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:59:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22269 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:59:07 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:58:14 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:53:02 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: MANMEET SINGH cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reporting a problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, MANMEET SINGH wrote: > Dear sir > I have received an e-mail from New York University school of medicine. > It has a message with 4 attachments: 16KB textonly, 16KB dostext, 24KB > dostext and 24KB worddoc. All these attachments are in OCTET-STREAM. These > can't be viewed by the Pine software on which my connection is working. > The attachments have been saved in the home directory. Information > displayed about the attachments is as follows > Type Application > Subtype OCTET STREAM > Encoding BASE64 > Parameters Name= Textonly > Description " " > Approx. size 16,402 bytes > Display method can't, unknown attachment format > I shall be grateful if any body is able to fix the bug, and also > help me know how to view and copy the files from home directory. There is no bug. The MIME type application/octet-stream is the most basic way to transfer a binary file. There is no indication as to what application may be associated with the attached file. Had it been image/gif, or application/msword, then you may (or may not) have an entry in a mailcap file which tells pine what application to call in order to render the attachment. Since it was sent as application/octet-stream you will have to make some "assumptions" about the content, save the data to disk, manually call an application to reder the attachment. For example, there is a good chance that MSWord will be the application needed to render "24KB worddoc". If you don't know what application should be used for each attachment and you can't determine it my trial and error then you will need to contact the sender and ask them.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:13:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA06000 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA23883 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:09:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA23875 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:08:59 -0800 Received: (from greaves@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.6.11) id LAA11903; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:08:57 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:08:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Taff X-Sender: greaves@leofric To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Procamil Setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am a final year student and am in need of some help setting up Procmail as I need it for my final year project. I downloaded a version form the Web and followed the instructions on setting it up from : http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/mail/filtering-faq.htm I cannot get this to work at all, when it is installed I can recieve no mail in my area, I have discovered that when I remove the .forward file I can then recieve mail. The forward file contains the line : "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym#" where the path has been corrected to my version of procmail and nancym has been replaced by my user name Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Many Thanks ******************************************************* * Elliott Greaves * ******************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:16:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA06020 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA26228 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:07:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA26224 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:07:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhaGz-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 04:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800 Message-ID: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Southworth wrote: > > mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > > > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't > >think they can. > > Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. > > Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox > > Enjoy your treat. ;) > > --Paul Actually, i use inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox and I confirm; it is undocumented. Does anyone knows why? -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA06796 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA26872 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk (ccug.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.1.46]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA26868 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:02:18 -0800 Received: from comp-dg.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.26.86] by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #1) id 0vhbAV-0007Qe-00; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:02:15 +0000 From: Georgie Porgie To: Ceaser the Geazer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:59:29 -0500 (EST) Priority: HIGH X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.0.7 X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII What's happening Cease? How's the family? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:20:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA06856 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA25595 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:13:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA25591 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:12:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhbJC-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 05:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 7 Jan 1997 10:58:11 GMT Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> bernie@metapro.com.au (Bernd Felsche): > [...] standard vi has a wrap-margin setting. > "set wm=10" will wrap 10 characters from the end of line - > allowing you to be requoted ad nauseum in followups without > the line wrapping around annoyingly. But then you will get different results when you resize the screen/window of Vi while it is running when the "last character" have moved position. That's why I find VIM's "textwidth" variable so handy - you can set an explicit and to a line. :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA07509 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26656 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:44:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (muss.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.64.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA26652 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:44:56 -0800 Received: (from warkend@localhost) by muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA19671; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:44:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Warkentin" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Message problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom It may concern, I am not receiving my new mail despite the fact that I am informed that I have it. I am not certain if this is a problem with the system or just my account. I would appreciate any help that you can give me. Thank you for your time. Danielle Warkentin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA07806 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA28597 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:14:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA28590 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:14:05 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:13:07 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:13:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Taff cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Procamil Setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Taff wrote: > I am a final year student and am in need of some help setting up > Procmail as I need it for my final year project. I downloaded a version > form the Web and followed the instructions on setting it up from : > > http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/mail/filtering-faq.htm > > I cannot get this to work at all, when it is installed I can recieve no > mail in my area, I have discovered that when I remove the .forward file I > can then recieve mail. The forward file contains the line : > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym#" > > where the path has been corrected to my version of procmail > and nancym has been replaced by my user name > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Procmail questions should be addressed at: procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA07836 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA27121 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27117 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:16:31 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:15:41 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:15:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Georgie Porgie cc: Ceaser the Geazer Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Georgie Porgie wrote: > What's happening Cease? How's the family? Ahhh...my family's fine. I think you've got your address book a bit shuffled. You've reached the 1000's of folks at the pine users group. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:51:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA08683 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA29079 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:43:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fw.bluestone.com (fw.bluestone.com [199.99.173.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA29075 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:43:29 -0800 Received: by fw.bluestone.com; id KAA10786; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from blustone.operations.bluestone.com(204.107.210.200) by fw.bluestone.com via smap (3.2) id xma010769; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:43:08 -0500 Received: from psgserver.bluestone.com by blustone.operations.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04136; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:42:09 EST Received: from localhost by psgserver.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22872; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:42:07 EST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: Kiran Anantha X-Sender: kiran@psgserver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Thanks for the reply and the clarification about the g {host2} command. I checked the tech notes at washington.edu but I still am not able to make it work. But this time I think it is because I don't exactly know how to specify the path to the mailbox. My mail mailbox is in /var/spool/mailbox/kiran and so I tried "remote {host2}/var.../mailbox/kiran/[]" and the relative path from my home dir but wasn't able to access the folder collection. The error I get reads: "**Empty List** Select here to try Re-Expanding" TIA, Kiran. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Kiran Anantha Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine On 3 Jan 1997, Kiran Anantha wrote: > I recently installed Netscape Mail Server on host2. host1 is the current > imap server machine. If I set my inbox to {host1}, I can access mail on > host1 and if I set it to {host2}, I can read mail from host2. > > What I would like to do is set inbox to {host1} and define a > folder-collection for mail on host2 (perhaps as "host2mail {host2}[]" ?!). Are your folders in your home directory on host2? If not, you need to specify the path (either absolute or relative to your home directory) between "{host2}" and "[]". For details, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/config-notes.html#collections > But, though I can login I cannot access my mail on host2.(I get an error > saying empty folders). Is there > something wrong with my approach, syntax? What is the exact error message? > P.S: I can do a "g {host2}" and get to my mail on host2, so why can't > {host2}[] be a valid folder. "g {host2}" is equivalent to "g {host2}INBOX" which has special rules for determining its location. All other folders are relative to your home directory. --DLM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10212 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA00264 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA00260 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:28:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vheLt-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barney Subject: help: error creating /mail/xxx.lock no such file or directory Date: 4 Jan 1997 18:37:51 GMT Message-ID: <5am81v$l5p@samba.rahul.net> Hi, I get this error message when I save a message to a folder: error creating /mail/xxx.lock no such file or directory I read part of the Pine FAQ and saw that creating a xxx.lock file is one of Pine's locking mechanisms, but how to I get the error message to stop? Is there something I can do from the end-users' standpoint, or is it something on my ISP's system admin side? Please email me if you can shed any light on this. Thanks you. -Gary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12070 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA00731 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:41:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from parallax.com (parallax.parallax.com [198.93.134.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA00724 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:41:01 -0800 Received: from checksix.parallax.com by parallax.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0vhfcw-000vxvC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:47 PST Received: from checksix by checksix.parallax.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16165; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:49:01 -0800 Message-ID: <32D28C8C.1869@parallax.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:49:00 -0800 From: "Alejandro B. Halili" Organization: Parallax Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to read mail sent by NextMail using pine ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, How do I read a piece of mail sent by Nextmail using pine ? Thanks, Alejandro e-mail: halili@parallax.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:47:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12097 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA02225 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA02218 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:40:25 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA58403; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:16 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Fabrizio Talucci cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: | Paul Southworth wrote: | > | > mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: | > > | > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't | > >think they can. | > | > Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. | > | | and I confirm; it is undocumented. ... not at all undocumented. Read the PINE FAQ at cac.washington.edu Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13863 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA02654 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:58:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA02649 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:58:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhgho-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Primoz Peterlin Subject: HP-UX: reverse aliases Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 19:27:09 +0100 Message-ID: <32D2957D.53B2@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody -- I apologize in advance if this is a FAQ; I wasn't able to find the answer in the ``Pine Questions and Answers'' , though. With a patch (PHNE_4040 and its later replacements), sendmail on HP-UX 9.x can do "reverse aliasing", i.e. it can map the "From:" field: user@host -> name.surname@domain on the outgoing mail. It works fine with the HP-supplied elm, but not with Pine. I am guessing that Pine bypasses this setup by using its internal mail daemon. I would like Pine _always_ use /usr/lib/sendmail instead of its own, along with its settings. Only setting now empty smtp-server line in the configuration file doesn't seem to work. What am I doing wrong? Thank you in advance, Primoz -- Primoz Peterlin (peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si) Fax:+386-61-131-5127 Institut za biofiziko MF, Lipiceva 2, SLO-1105 Ljubljana, Slovenija WWW page: http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:33:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14536 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04946 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:28:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04936 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhCA-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Separating Messages Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 19:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've developed a software that purges new mail messages in /var/mail, and it worked fine until some users switched from ELM to PINE. How does PINE separate the messages? I thought a good start was to look for "From" (does it also use linefeeds?), but this can be a problem if the body of messages contain "From" as well. Somehow PINE is smart enough to handle the messages. Any ideas? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:44:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14873 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA03706 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:38:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA03702 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:38:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhHV-00038YC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: "Out of free storage" Date: 7 Jan 1997 14:04:35 -0500 Message-ID: I just crashed out of Unix pine while trying to send a message and got this error message: Problem detected: "Out of free storage". Pine Exiting. Floating exception What does this mean and which machine is the problem on. I was: * logged on to machine a * responding to a message that was on machine b (accessed via IMAP) * using IMAP to save a copy of the message I was trying to to send on machine c * using an smtp server on machine d So, was this a problem on machine a, b, c, or d and what kind of problem is it? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:50:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA15066 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA03834 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:45:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA03830 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:45:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA19713; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Louella B. Salvador" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you for your help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15449 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA05786 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhgI-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Markus Wahl Subject: problem with display-filter Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get the display-filter to work as I wish. I have a program (in ADA96) which filters the standard-IO and replaces some tokens with others. I want pine to activate the filter when for instance the token "{" is occurred in the text. I have tried the following in .pinerc; display-filters="{" /users/dtek/d95/d95wahl/src/ada/translate/program ... but without result. What is wrong? /Markus -- I Arkansas {r det helt okej f|r m{n att sl} sina fruar - men bara en g}ng i m}naden. -- Campus Teknik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15492 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05779 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us (webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us [204.198.161.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA05769 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:02:57 -0800 Received: from mercury (mercury.fccj.cc.fl.us [204.198.160.50]) by webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id TAA08861 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:54:00 GMT Received: from MCCS_ISS_FILE_SERVER_1/SpoolDir by mercury (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:02:06 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MCCS_ISS_FILE_SERVER_1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:01:54 -0500 Received: from amatt.fccj.cc.fl.us by mercury (Mercury 1.12) with ESMTP; Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:01:50 -0500 Message-ID: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 15:01:49 -0500 From: amatt X-Sender: amatt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: filtering FAQ X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------4BFB7E343CF12" ------------4BFB7E343CF12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... ------------4BFB7E343CF12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... 
------------4BFB7E343CF12-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15959 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA06393 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.d.umn.edu (mail.d.umn.edu [131.212.109.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA06388 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:27:06 -0800 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (24555@ub-109.d.umn.edu [131.212.109.3]) by mail.d.umn.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA05366; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dodegaa1@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA20874; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:55 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ub.d.umn.edu: dodegaa1 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:55 -0600 (CST) From: "...drew" To: Edward.M.Greshk@cdc.com cc: drewsky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:48:07 +0800 (GMT) > From: Ed Greshko > To: dodegaar@skypoint.com > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? > On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 dodegaar@skypoint.com wrote: > > I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want > > to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. I tink you should tell us what the "error message" is.....> > Ed > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... the error message reads: no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. d.ole.o. the smiling norweign From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:10:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA18312 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA07208 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:04:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA07204 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:04:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhjaF-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 14:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chillin' Dannyman" Subject: Re: News server authentication - how? Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:17:38 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have access to some newsgroups on my local server only via authentication, otherwise they'll turn up a "not-found" I've read that pine 3.95 allows authentication at the news server, but I can not figure out how to specify that it should authenticate, what must I do to get pine to login to the news server? It connects just fine for reading and posting, but if I want to see these certain groups, well, I must authenticate ... TIA, and if any replies could be Cc:ed to email I'd greatly appreciate, because then I can't miss the reply. :) =====///==================================================================== ====///===== This message brought to you by dannyman@dannyland.org ========= \\\///========== HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward ============ =\XX/Allen=171============================================================== [Nothing to Expunge! No messages marked "Deleted".] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:44:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22947 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA13607 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA13603 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhm0q-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 16:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Hafford Subject: Yarn Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where can I locate a version of Yarn or another off-line Pine reader that will work well with a DOS base system? paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA24985 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA16318 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:49:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.124.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA16314 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:49:50 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id UAA18449 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 20:49:49 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 20:49:49 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: using lockf with pine? My site wants to use lockf as the primary locking scheme across mail platforms. What do I have to do to configure pine to do this? I saw in c-client/flock.c what appears to be code to do this, but I am currently confused what to set where in the configuration, which turns out to be on Digital Unix (have been using OSF as the config) ?? / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA25031 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16780 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:23:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA16774 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:23:41 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:22:50 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:17:35 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "...drew" cc: drewsky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, ...drew wrote: > Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... > > the error message reads: > > no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 > > Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. Sounds like the news server has a problem with disk space. Not much pine can do to help on that one.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:14:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27325 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA19275 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAU-00038XC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: avir@black (Alexander Virtser) Subject: Pine Messages Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:56:52 GMT Message-ID: <5ahav4$4ko@news.huji.ac.il> How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! -- 10x & Byebye ... ___ _ ___ _ _ | . \ ___ <_>/ __> ___ | \ | E-mail .............: avir@math.bgu.ac.il | _// . \| |\__ \/ . \| | FidoNet ...................: 2:403/467.77 |_| \___/|_|<___/\___/|_\_| UltiNet ..................: 97:200/267.77 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:15:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27369 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17155 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17151 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAV-00038YC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Burgh Subject: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:42:34 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing something simple? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:22:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27441 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17149 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17145 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAR-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccx062@coventry.ac.uk (Chris Taylor) Subject: DSN (sendmail) support Date: 6 Jan 1997 09:31:58 GMT Message-ID: <5aqgqe$bre$1@zephyrus-fddi.coventry.ac.uk> Please find enclosed the patches to convert 3.9x (it was actually done on 3.95, but it should work on all of the 9 versions) to support DSN for sendmail 8.8. It provides a switch in the configuration screen to support DSN. When this has been turned on, you will be asked if you want delivery notification when you send the mail (^X in compose). Sendmail will then mail you back a DSN in a normal mail message. If people have problems with these patches (legitimate problems please, not diff/patch problems), please mail me and I will try and have a look, but nothing is guaranteed. ---- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here ---- *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Jun 4 00:04:29 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Nov 26 12:02:24 1996 *************** *** 202,207 **** char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ --- 202,210 ---- char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ + + /* Chris T */ + int dsn; } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Fri Jun 28 20:57:09 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Tue Nov 26 12:06:09 1996 *************** *** 144,161 **** smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); --- 144,170 ---- smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } + + /* Chris T */ + if(! stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn) { + smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"MDA doesnt support delivery notification"); + env->dsn=0; + stream->ok_dsn=0; + } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); + /* Chris T */ + if (stream->ok_dsn) strcat (tmp," RET=HDRS"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error,0); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); *************** *** 205,211 **** * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error) { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { --- 214,220 ---- * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error, int dsn) { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { *************** *** 215,220 **** strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ --- 224,231 ---- strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn) strcat(tmp," NOTIFY=SUCCESS"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ *************** *** 280,285 **** && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') --- 291,299 ---- && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; + } /* Chris T */ + else if (j == (((long) 'D' << 24) + ((long) 'S' << 16) + ('N' << 8))) { + stream->ok_dsn = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Wed Feb 7 00:09:54 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Tue Nov 26 12:06:25 1996 *************** *** 74,79 **** unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ --- 74,81 ---- unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ + /* Chris T */ + unsigned int ok_dsn : 1; /* supports DSN */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ *************** *** 101,107 **** long smtp_mail (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *type,ENVELOPE *msg,BODY *body); void smtp_debug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); void smtp_nodebug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error); long smtp_send (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *command,char *args); long smtp_reply (SMTPSTREAM *stream); long smtp_fake (SMTPSTREAM *stream,long code,char *text); --- 103,109 ---- long smtp_mail (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *type,ENVELOPE *msg,BODY *body); void smtp_debug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); void smtp_nodebug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error,int); long smtp_send (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *command,char *args); long smtp_reply (SMTPSTREAM *stream); long smtp_fake (SMTPSTREAM *stream,long code,char *text); *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Jun 4 00:05:38 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 202,207 **** char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ --- 202,210 ---- char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ + + /* Chris T */ + int dsn; } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Fri Jun 28 21:26:40 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 154,171 **** smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); --- 154,180 ---- smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } + + /* Chris T */ + if(! stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn) { + smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"MDA doesnt support delivery notification"); + env->dsn=0; + stream->ok_dsn=0; + } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); + /* Chris T */ + if (stream->ok_dsn) strcat (tmp," RET=HDRS"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error,0); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); *************** *** 217,226 **** * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (stream,adr,error) SMTPSTREAM *stream; ADDRESS *adr; long *error; { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { --- 226,236 ---- * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (stream,adr,error,dsn) SMTPSTREAM *stream; ADDRESS *adr; long *error; + int dsn; { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { *************** *** 230,235 **** strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ --- 240,247 ---- strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn) strcat(tmp," NOTIFY=SUCCESS"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ *************** *** 299,304 **** && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') --- 311,319 ---- && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; + } /* Chris T */ + else if (j == (((long) 'D' << 24) + ((long) 'S' << 16) + ('N' << 8))) { + stream->ok_dsn = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Wed Feb 7 00:13:04 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 74,79 **** unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ --- 74,81 ---- unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ + /* Chris T */ + unsigned int ok_dsn : 1; /* supports DSN */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ *** ./pine/init.c Thu Jul 11 00:05:31 1996 --- ./pine/init.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:57 1996 *************** *** 1351,1356 **** {"enable-cruise-mode-delete", F_ENABLE_TAB_DELETES}, {"enable-dot-files", F_ENABLE_DOT_FILES}, {"enable-dot-folders", F_ENABLE_DOT_FOLDERS}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-flag-screen-implicitly", F_FLAG_SCREEN_DFLT}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, --- 1351,1358 ---- {"enable-cruise-mode-delete", F_ENABLE_TAB_DELETES}, {"enable-dot-files", F_ENABLE_DOT_FILES}, {"enable-dot-folders", F_ENABLE_DOT_FOLDERS}, + /* Chris T */ + {"enable-dsn", F_ENABLE_DSN}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-flag-screen-implicitly", F_FLAG_SCREEN_DFLT}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, *** ./pine/other.c Thu Jul 11 00:05:59 1996 --- ./pine/other.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:58 1996 *************** *** 2442,2447 **** case F_ALLOW_TALK: return(h_config_allow_talk); #endif case F_ENABLE_MOUSE: return(h_config_enable_mouse); case F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL: --- 2442,2450 ---- case F_ALLOW_TALK: return(h_config_allow_talk); #endif + /* Chris T */ + case F_ENABLE_DSN: + return(h_config_enable_dsn); case F_ENABLE_MOUSE: return(h_config_enable_mouse); case F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL: *** ./pine/pine.h Thu Jul 11 19:15:44 1996 --- ./pine/pine.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:58 1996 *************** *** 1155,1160 **** #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! #endif --- 1155,1163 ---- #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ + /* Chris T */ + #define F_ENABLE_DSN 83 + #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! #endif *** ./pine/send.c Mon Jul 8 19:10:50 1996 --- ./pine/send.c Tue Nov 26 12:01:00 1996 *************** *** 164,169 **** static long send_bytes_sent, send_bytes_to_send; static char *sending_filter_requested; static char verbose_requested, background_requested; static METAENV *send_header = NULL; --- 164,171 ---- static long send_bytes_sent, send_bytes_to_send; static char *sending_filter_requested; static char verbose_requested, background_requested; + /* Chris T */ + static char dsn_requested; static METAENV *send_header = NULL; *************** *** 2885,2890 **** pf_nobody->writehdr = 1; pf_nobody->localcopy = 1; } #if defined(BACKGROUND_POST) && defined(SIGCHLD) /* --- 2887,2899 ---- pf_nobody->writehdr = 1; pf_nobody->localcopy = 1; } + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn_requested) { + outgoing->dsn = 1; + } else { + outgoing->dsn = 0; + } + #if defined(BACKGROUND_POST) && defined(SIGCHLD) /* *************** *** 3358,3363 **** send_exit_for_pico() { int i, rv, c, verbose_label = 0, bg_label = 0, old_suspend; char *rstr = NULL, *p, *lc; void (*redraw)() = ps_global->redrawer; ESCKEY_S opts[9]; --- 3367,3374 ---- send_exit_for_pico() { int i, rv, c, verbose_label = 0, bg_label = 0, old_suspend; + /* Chris T */ + int ct; char *rstr = NULL, *p, *lc; void (*redraw)() = ps_global->redrawer; ESCKEY_S opts[9]; *************** *** 3520,3525 **** /* BUG: test kmpopped stuff? */ rv = radio_buttons(tmp_20k_buf, -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), opts, 'y', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); if(rv == 'y'){ /* user ACCEPTS! */ break; } --- 3531,3556 ---- /* BUG: test kmpopped stuff? */ rv = radio_buttons(tmp_20k_buf, -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), opts, 'y', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); + /* Chris T */ + + if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_DSN, ps_global) && rv != 'n' && rv != 'x') { + static ESCKEY_S dsn_opt[] = { + {'n', 'n', "N", "No"}, + {'y', 'y', "Y", "Yes"}, + {-1, 0, NULL, NULL} + }; + ct = radio_buttons("Delivery notification ? ", -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), dsn_opt, + 'n', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); + if(ct == 'y') { + dsn_requested=1; + } else if(ct == 'n') { + dsn_requested=0; + } else if(ct == 'x') { + rv = 'x'; + rstr = "Send Cancelled"; + break; + } + } if(rv == 'y'){ /* user ACCEPTS! */ break; } *************** *** 3999,4005 **** * If the user's asked for it, and we find that the first text * part (attachments all get b64'd) is non-7bit, ask for ESMTP. */ ! if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT, ps_global) && (bp = first_text_8bit(body))) smtp_opts |= SOP_ESMTP; #ifdef DEBUG --- 4030,4037 ---- * If the user's asked for it, and we find that the first text * part (attachments all get b64'd) is non-7bit, ask for ESMTP. */ ! /* Chris T */ ! if((F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT, ps_global) && (bp = first_text_8bit(body))) || F_ON(F_ENABLE_DSN,ps_global)) smtp_opts |= SOP_ESMTP; #ifdef DEBUG *** ./pine/pine.hlp Fri Jun 21 01:45:20 1996 --- ./pine/pine.hlp Tue Nov 26 12:35:20 1996 *************** *** 159,164 **** o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine o Builtin signature editor o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting This release also includes a stand-alone version of Pine's internal file browser, named \"pilot\" --for \"Pine's Lister Of Things\", and an --- 159,165 ---- o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine o Builtin signature editor o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting + o DSN support for sendmail This release also includes a stand-alone version of Pine's internal file browser, named \"pilot\" --for \"Pine's Lister Of Things\", and an *************** *** 365,370 **** o enable-8bit-nntp-posting o enable-cruise-mode (SPACE acts like tab when at end of msg) o enable-cruise-mode-delete (look at it once, then it disappears) o enable-dot-files (file browser normally hides dot files) o enable-dot-folders (folder lister normally hides them) o enable-flag-screen-implicitly --- 366,372 ---- o enable-8bit-nntp-posting o enable-cruise-mode (SPACE acts like tab when at end of msg) o enable-cruise-mode-delete (look at it once, then it disappears) + o enable-dsn o enable-dot-files (file browser normally hides dot files) o enable-dot-folders (folder lister normally hides them) o enable-flag-screen-implicitly *************** *** 5449,5454 **** Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"8BITMIME\". ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. --- 5451,5472 ---- Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"8BITMIME\". + + ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but + it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. + + + ====== h_config_enable_dsn ===== + FEATURE: enable-dsn + + This feature affects Pine's behavior when sending mail. + + DSN (Delivery Service Notification) sends a message back to + the sender when the message is delivered to the recipient. + + Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or + configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in + \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"DSN\". ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. ---- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here ---- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Taylor: C.Taylor@coventry.ac.uk Coventry University, Computing Services. Tel: (01203) 838641 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:57:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27358 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19804 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:53:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA19800 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:53:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA21090; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:48:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:48:34 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Eric Burgh cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The option in the configuration that you want is "default FCC". Bruce On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Eric Burgh wrote: > > I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my > sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the > config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing > something simple? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu > Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu > The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi > Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28851 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21559 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:57:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21553 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:57:28 -0800 Received: from aix2.uottawa.ca by cliff.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03a) id AA19872; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:52:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:57:08 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-"you have new mail" message problem (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SEE BELOW -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: UW Robot Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Most Frequently Asked Questions Everytime I enter Pine the message "you have new mail" appears even though no new messages exist. What is the problem? How do I correct it? Thanks for your help. -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28862 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21580 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:59:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21576 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:59:05 -0800 Received: from aix2.uottawa.ca by cliff.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03a) id AA08232; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:53:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-Password problems (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SEE BELOW -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: UW Robot Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Most Frequently Asked Questions Once I have gained access to my unix box I type:pine. The system automatically logs me on then asks for my password which was assigned to me by the University of Ottawa. How do I change the password? Going into setup, then password does not work. It seems that I can not change the generic assigned password needed upon entering Pine. -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:54:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29205 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20153 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:42:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20143; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:42:10 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:39:44 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:34:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Pine Developers cc: Pine Info Subject: Bug (ID Z330B): line endings treatment in ESMTP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, I'm running pine3.95 on Solaris. I've run into a problem with an MTA which is ESMTP 8BITMIME compliant. This MTA also supports downgrading when passing a message to the next hop. If the next hop does not support 8BITMIME it will attempt to downgrade. If pine is set to enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation the attachments it produces encoded in base64 will have their end of lines like so: di5jYy5udGh1LmVkdS50dz4NClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9tIGNkc2h1YjEwMC5j^M ZGMuY29tIGJ5IGNhbHZpbi50d250cGUuY2RjLmNvbSB3aXRoIEVTTVRQOyBU^M dWUsIDcgSmFuIDE5OTcgMTA6MjU6NDAgKzA4MDANClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9t^M In other words the lines end in 015 012. If pine is set *not* to enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation the attachments it produces encoded in base64 will have their end of lines like so: di5jYy5udGh1LmVkdS50dz4NClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9tIGNkc2h1YjEwMC5j ZGMuY29tIGJ5IGNhbHZpbi50d250cGUuY2RjLmNvbSB3aXRoIEVTTVRQOyBU dWUsIDcgSmFuIDE5OTcgMTA6MjU6NDAgKzA4MDANClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9t In other words they simply end with 012. When the MTA needs to perform downgrading it fails if the line ends with 015 012 stating that the attachment is invalid base64. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Thu Sep 12 11:14:58 GMT 1996 on host: hobbes ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = egreshko, full = Ed Greshko home = /usr1/egreshko home_dir= /usr1/egreshko hostname= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com localdom= twntpe.cdc.com userdom= NULL maildom= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com cur_cntxt= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] cur_fldr= outbox actual mbox= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/outbox msgmap: tot=69, cur=69, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date actual inbox= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX inbox map: tot=108, cur=107, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/5, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ed Greshko user-id : egreshko smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] news-collections : *{news.cdc.com/nntp}[] default-fcc : outbox default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /usr1/egreshko/bin/mkpgp composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usr1/egreshko/.pinerc) ======= smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] default-fcc : outbox feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation sort-key : Date character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : ~/bin/mkpgp printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.95 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd enable-goto-in-file-browser enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) n (0x006e) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) i (0x0069) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) ; (0x003b) a (0x0061) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) - (0x002d) 9 (0x0039) 2 (0x0032) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) (0x0020) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) i (0x0069) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) i (0x0069) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) TAB (0x0009) s (0x0073) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) ^C (0x0003) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) RETURN (0x000d) e (0x0065) i (0x0069) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) n (0x006e) e (0x0065) d (0x0064) - (0x002d) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) g (0x0067) s (0x0073) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) u (0x0075) m (0x006d) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) g (0x0067) ^N (0x000e) RETURN (0x000d) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) n (0x006e) e (0x0065) d (0x0064) - (0x002d) n (0x006e) m (0x006d) ^H (0x0008) s (0x0073) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) g (0x0067) s (0x0073) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) u (0x0075) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) 8 (0x0038) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) b (0x0062) e (0x0065) ^H (0x0008) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) s (0x0073) m (0x006d) a (0x0061) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) . (0x002e) ^H (0x0008) @ (0x0040) c (0x0063) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) . (0x002e) t (0x0074) w (0x0077) n (0x006e) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) e (0x0065) . (0x002e) c (0x0063) d (0x0064) c (0x0063) . (0x002e) c (0x0063) o (0x006f) m (0x006d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) c (0x0063) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:56:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29228 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:52:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20294 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:52:28 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:51:18 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:46:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul Morneau cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-Password problems (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Paul Morneau wrote: > Once I have gained access to my unix box I type:pine. > > The system automatically logs me on then asks for my password which was > assigned to me by the University of Ottawa. How do I change the > password? Going into setup, then password does not work. It seems that > I can not change the generic assigned password needed upon entering Pine. Is the senario: 1. Log-in to unix box with a "user-name" and "password". 2. Type "pine". 3. Pine starts and displays a username, you hit return or supply a UN 4. Pine starts and displays a password prompt, you enter a password. 5. You are into pine. And you want to change the password on #4 but can't? Thanks for a better understanding of your situation. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:10:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29291 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22569 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:07:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA22565 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:07:10 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:04:52 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA09638; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:06:03 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:06:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jago cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Separating Messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The question is really not so much "How does Pine separate messages in a folder?" but "Which mailbox format are you using?" Whereas Elm, as far as I recall, supports only one/a few mailbox formats Pine supports many. How the messages are stored and separated can be very different in each format, so it _is_ important which one you are using. That said, most places use the so-called "Berkeley" format. With this each message is of the format: From blah blah blah Header1: value Header2: value Header3: value <--- empty line (important!) ...text of message... Particular points to note: * Each message is introduced by a line starting "From " (note the trailing space; this differentiates the line from the "From:" header line). * The text after the "From " is often in a variety of formats, and its content shouldn't really be relied upon (eg, Pine rewrites it when resaving the mailbox). Use the proper "HeaderN: value" lines instead. * The empty line after the last header signifies the end of the headers, and the start of the message body text. This prevents software getting confused over initial lines of a message which happen to look like header lines. * The mail software (delivery softare, Pine, etc) almost invariably "quotes" any lines within a message body which start "From " to become ">From". This prevents spurious start-of-message's. (But note that Pine has, as far as I recall, an option to turn this quoting off somewhere, although it is rarely used I guess!) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Jago wrote: > I've developed a software that purges new mail messages in /var/mail, and > it worked fine until some users switched from ELM to PINE. How does PINE > separate the messages? I thought a good start was to look for "From" > (does it also use linefeeds?), but this can be a problem if the body of > messages contain "From" as well. Somehow PINE is smart enough to handle > the messages. Any ideas? > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:22:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29367 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA20708 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:17:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20701 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:17:25 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA13886; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:17:07 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:17:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Louella B. Salvador" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Louella B. Salvador wrote: > Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you > for your help. Either: 1) Delete some of your files, or 2) Ask the people who look after your computer systems for some more disk space allowance (disk quota). "Disk quota" is a means whereby Mean And Nasty Systems Administrators (such as myself;-) can limit the amount of storage space someone can make use of on the computer. Every time you save a file to the computer's disk it uses up some storage space; every time you delete one of your files it releases the space that file used. When you have used up all your storage allowance (your "disk quota") you can't create or enlarge any of your files. So you either have to release some space (by deleting some of your files), or ask the people who look after the computer system you are using for a larger disk quota. As you can see this is something that has to be done by yourself or people at your site who look after your computer; we -- random people around the world -- can't do anything to resolve the problem for you. This is why it is usually best when confronted with such an error message to ask someone (a Help Desk?) at your site for assistance in the first instance. They can usually advise you and help you correct any problem faster and more effectively than we can. However if you think you have found a bug in Pine, or have a suggestion about improving it, then the people in this forum will be pleased to hear from you. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:28:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29447 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA20780 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:23:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20770 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:23:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:21:38 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA15767; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:22:44 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:22:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: drewsky , "...drew" cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, ...drew wrote: > > > Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... > > > > the error message reads: > > > > no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 > > > > Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. > > Sounds like the news server has a problem with disk space. > Not much pine can do to help on that one.... > > Ed I can confirm Ed's diagnosis: the real problem is that the News Server you are trying to use has run out of storage space for receiving new articles (either posted to it by people such as yourself, or received from its neighbouring news servers). When this happens the news server "throttles" itself so as to prevent any further articles arriving. Depending on how it has been configured it may (usually does) allow people to continue _reading_ News, but they can't post. If someone does try and post an article the news server returns an error message which the news reading software, in this case Pine, reports to the user. I suggest you contact the person who administers your Usenet News server and check that they are aware of the problem; only they will be able to fix things up. As an aside, this is another good example of a case where someone's best course of action would really have been to consult a someone/a Help Desk at their site, rather than asking random people around the world. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:39:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29719 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22876 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA22872 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:34:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA19824; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:32:34 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:32:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Chillin' Dannyman" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News server authentication - how? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine will prompt you to enter authentication information when the news server tells it that it can't do something without authenticating; there is nothing to configure manually. Your problem is that you're in a bit of a halfway house: the most common scenarios are: 1. Unrestricted access to users for reading or posting. 2. Unrestricted access for reading, but must authenticate before a posting is accepted. 3. Must authenticate before any reading or posting is allowed. Pine 3.95 handles all the above scenarios without any manual configuration. However it sounds like your server allows limited news reading (and posting?) without authentication, and access to additional newsgroups after authentication? I'm not too sure whether Pine will interwork with this setup (Pine Team?). The reason for my suspicion is that when it sends a "GROUP" command to the server to try and open one of the additional groups your news server is responding something like "No such group" (because you aren't authenticated). This is the same message that would be sent out if the group really didn't exist. Pine is watching for the "Authentication required for command" message to trigger it into prompting you to supply it with the necessary information. Because it doesn't see this it doesn't ask you, and without it your news server won't grant access. So my horrible suspicion is that you may not be able to get Pine -- at least not version 3.95 -- to give you access to the additional newsgroups on your server. Your only hope would be to see if your News Administrator might consider moving to one of the above three setups. Caveat: I may be wrong about this. Anyone on the Pine Team care to comment? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Chillin' Dannyman wrote: > I have access to some newsgroups on my local server only via > authentication, otherwise they'll turn up a "not-found" I've read that > pine 3.95 allows authentication at the news server, but I can not figure > out how to specify that it should authenticate, what must I do to get pine > to login to the news server? It connects just fine for reading and > posting, but if I want to see these certain groups, well, I must > authenticate ... > > TIA, and if any replies could be Cc:ed to email I'd greatly > appreciate, because then I can't miss the reply. :) > > =====///==================================================================== > ====///===== This message brought to you by dannyman@dannyland.org ========= > \\\///========== HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward ============ > =\XX/Allen=171============================================================== > [Nothing to Expunge! No messages marked "Deleted".] > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:24:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA30920 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA25095 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:18:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (acaix1.UCIS.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.50]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA25091 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:18:51 -0800 Received: from is2.dal.ca (IS2.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.66]) by acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA44645 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (tdowdall@localhost) by is2.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA64930 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:49 -0400 (AST) From: Tanya Raye Dowdall To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Fw: virus alert (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete > it WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, > ...and what it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. > > This is a warning for all internet users - there is a dangerous > virus propogating across the internet through an e-mail message entitled > "PENPAL GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL > GREETINGS!" This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you > are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too > late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector > of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a > self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY > forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is > present in YOUR mailbox! This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and > holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in > your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. If this virus > remains unchecked, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to > computer networks worldwide!!!! > Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon > as you see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends > and relatives, and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing > lists which you are on, so that they are not hurt by this > dangerous virus!!!! > ======================================================== > Note, > > There is also a E-Mail virus called GOOD TIMES which is similar to above > and should be deleted > > _________________ > Don McCormick > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:48:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01862 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26437 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:38:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gaston.tenet.edu (Gayle-Gaston.tenet.edu [198.213.2.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26433 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:38:51 -0800 Received: (from jeppler@localhost) by gaston.tenet.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA00703; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:38:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:38:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jan Lee Eppler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: black screen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some mysterious combination of keys causes white screen w/black type to switch to black screen w/white type. Problem seems associated w/users who have Windows 95 and use HyperTerminal to access Pine. My server is Tenet, and their helpdesk people haven't been able to solve the mystery. Does anyone else have this problem, and/or know how to reverse it? thanks. I am a novice, so any replies should be in KISS (keep it simple for stupids). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01976 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26857 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:51:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26853 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:51:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi1A2-00038YC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 08:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Best editors Date: 8 Jan 1997 11:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> <5ave4v$shm@fridge-nf0.shore.net> hazmat@shore.net (Ken W) writes: >: * autowrap and ability to set wrap margin; also something >: equivalent to Pico's ^j which allows you to "justify" a >: paragraph that has become a mess due to massive editing. > >: * versions that run on Win 3.1, Win 95, and Unix (text, not >: necessarily X-Windows) > >: * ability to see line numbers (e.g. vi's `:set nu') > >: * ability to see tabs and end of lines (e.g. vi's `:set list') > >: * vi keystroke emulation > >Uhhh.... How about vi? :) The thing above that I believe that vi can't do is >the justification that you are talking about with pico, but I believe that >you can use some sort of script to do that for you, probably with either >sh or perl. Speaking of which, anyone know of such a script? A couple people sent me mail suggesting vim, which has a built-in paragraph-justify thing. I'll try it but I'm wondering how GUI the Windows 3.x and 95 versions are - can you cut and paste and use the scroll bar? Also, what I really want is something that has all the above features that normal people (non-vi people) can use. I help a lot of people with Net stuff and I need to find a good text editor to recommend to them that *I CAN ALSO USE* (that's why the vi emulation would be nice). Right now I set people up with pico but then when I try to do something for them, I usually create a mess because I start typing things like `ESCAPE jjj' to move around. Thanks, Nancy PS - Where can I get the Win 3.1 and Win 95 versions of vim? -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA05289 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA02668 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:01:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA02664 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:01:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi3Fi-00038XC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 11:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: VAL RAUCH Subject: Please ignore this message, only a test. Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:22:23 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Test1. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:11:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03583 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01492 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:41:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA01488 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:41:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi3sD-00038aC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 11:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: "Out of free storage" Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:12:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The problem is on machine (a), the client. The problem is that a malloc() call failed. Were you trying to send something particularly large in the message? On 7 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > I just crashed out of Unix pine while trying to send a message > and got this error message: > > Problem detected: "Out of free storage". > Pine Exiting. > Floating exception > > What does this mean and which machine is the problem on. > I was: > > * logged on to machine a > * responding to a message that was on machine b (accessed > via IMAP) > * using IMAP to save a copy of the message I was trying to > to send on machine c > * using an smtp server on machine d > > So, was this a problem on machine a, b, c, or d and what kind > of problem is it? -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:35:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA10279 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA08158 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA08154 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:25 -0800 Received: from ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU (ulnar.biostr.washington.edu [128.95.44.18]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA26213 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:24 -0800 Received: by ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/NX3.0S(UW-BS rev 081293)) id AA00953; Wed, 8 Jan 97 14:28:22 -0800 Message-Id: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: William Barker Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 14:28:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing from Pine Reply-To: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print out a message before I send it off? TIA, bb -- Bill Barker Biological Structure, Box 357420 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195-7420 (206) 543-7315 "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA10416 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA06104 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:36:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (tigger.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU [199.17.25.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06100 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:36:07 -0800 Received: from TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU by TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #16214) id <01IDZ6ROET5600BRDT@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:40:28 CST Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 16:40:27 -0600 (CST) From: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU Subject: question???? To: Pine Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine, At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and add to or change it? -memory lost *some days are made this way From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:16:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11146 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA09427 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:09:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA09421 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:09:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA28985; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:04:19 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:04:18 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU cc: Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No problem. Just edit a file called .signature in your root directory. Bruce On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU wrote: > Pine, > At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and > add to or change it? > -memory lost > > > *some days are made this way > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:41:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11600 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10137 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:36:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA10133 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:36:02 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:35:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:35:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU cc: Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU wrote: > Pine, > At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and > add to or change it? > -memory lost You're using pine 3.95. Got to the main menu. Type s(etup), s(ignature). Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:46:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11839 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07838 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:37:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07831 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:37:22 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:36:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:36:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU, Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > No problem. Just edit a file called .signature in your root directory. Got to be careful.....maybe they read the help in setup/config and changed the name of their signature file. :-) :-) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11916 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07933 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07929 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:42:22 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:41:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:41:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, William Barker wrote: > In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending > someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself > a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print > out a message before I send it off? This "ugly" but should work. 1. When you are finished composing, use ctrl-O to Postpone. 2. Change to the postpone folder. 3. V(iew) the message you want to print. 4. Y(int) the message. You can they type c(ompose) to resume and then (of course) ctrl-x to send..... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:08:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13552 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12114 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:02:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA12110 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:02:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi8og-00038aC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 16:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: automatic response upon receiving mail? Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:12:12 -0900 Message-ID: References: Dwight Wilkins writes: > > > A user recently asked how to have pine automatically > reply to pine, the example was if the user is on gone for an extended > time, the sender would receive a message that the user will be back in a > month, etc. How exactly would I do this? > > > PGP key: > nyuknyuknyuknyukwoowoowoowoonarffiorddohhyukwe'rezanytothemaxetcetcetc There are programs out there that work on unix systems. Digital Unix comes with a program called "vacation" (I don't know how "generic" it is) that will automatically reply to a message. Pine itself does not have that function, and can't since, to my knowledge, pine is not programmed to run as a daemon. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:35:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13923 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10691 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:31:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10687 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:31:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA30601 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:26:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:26:02 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Vacation Program Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know this doesn't have anything to do with Pine, but since the question of a vacation program seems quite frequent on this list (I've seen it four times in two weeks) can someone tell me where a Vacation program could be FTPed from? Thanks. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:01:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15089 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA12078 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:57:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA12074 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viAfl-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: f.chartier@atlantel.fr (Francis CHARTIER) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 13:02:48 GMT Message-ID: <32cd034d.5919597@news.atlantel.fr> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> <5ai4g9$g52@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Le 3 Jan 1997 05:12:41 GMT, Steve Howie a écrit : > >mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: >> >>It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >>think they can. > >As an aside, there is a Unix POP client called "mutt" - do a Web or Archie >search for it. > You can use fetchmail or getmail, then use Pine to read you local mail. *---------------------------------------------* Francis Chartier f.chartier@atlantel.fr Quid Novi ? quidnovi@atlantel.fr * PAO * Pre-Presse * Photogravure * *---------------------------------------------* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA01349 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17945 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:22:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17941 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:22:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viDov-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 22:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wft@ralvm29 (Bill Trautman) Subject: Re: pineos2 not starting Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:13:28 GMT Message-ID: <19970103.091328.772@ralvm29> References: In article , on Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:46:18 +0100, Roland Wenzel writes: >I don't get my pine working under OS/2. After setting up the variables I >tried to start pine. It told me: > > [stuff removed] > >roland > >-------------------------------------------------- >This message has not been typed. >Introducing VoiceType and Warp 4. > Roland, You need to set up the environment variable HOME or PINEHOME to point to where you want your mail folders created (I don't think they have to point at the PINE directory. Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:32:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA17655 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA16719 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:28:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA16715 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viEpP-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 23:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Date: 7 Jan 1997 23:31:03 GMT Message-ID: <5aumbn$s95@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article lbs6838@is4.nyu.edu ("Louella B. Salvador") wrote: > > Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you > for your help. You do one of two things: 1. Delete files in the area noted as being over quota. 2. Ask your sys admin to increase your quota. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:59:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA18274 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA17861 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:53:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ermis.math.upatras.gr (ermis-g.math.upatras.gr [150.140.104.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA17857 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:53:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199701090853.AAA17857@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by ermis.math.upatras.gr (16.6/16.2) id AA07533; Thu, 9 Jan 97 11:57:30 +0200 From: Skiniotis Takis Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 11:57:29 EET Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] unsubscribe pine-info takis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18385 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20011 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:03:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA20007 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:03:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGL9-00038eC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 00:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:56:34 GMT Hi, Is there any way to make Pine automatically highlight (or somehow mark) folders with unanswered messages inside? In this way I could tell at a glance (from the folder list) where are the messages I have not yet answered, instead of having to read the contents of each folder... I'm using v. 3.95. Thanks for any help! -- _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:17:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18423 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18090 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18086 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGXj-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bunka@i112pc09.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian Bunka) Subject: Re: Pine on Linux. Date: 9 Jan 1997 08:20:51 GMT Message-ID: <5b29p3$5b4@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> References: <32D3A8A9.44D26077@inf.com> In article <32D3A8A9.44D26077@inf.com>, "Rahul R.S" writes: >Hello, > >I recently have started using pine on my linux machine. >My problem is that whenever I send a message, pine hangs at >the '[Sending mail | 0% |]' prompt for a very long time. >(almost one minute !) > >I never had this problem when I was using pine on HP-UX. > >Is there any setup problem here. > In the setup/config go to the feature list and enable background sending. From the pine Help: FEATURE: enable-background-sending This feature affects the behavior of Pine's mail sending. If set, this feature enables a subcommand in the composer's "Send?" confirmation prompt. The subcommand allows you to tell Pine to handle the actual posting in the background. While this feature usually allows posting to appear to happen very fast, it has no affect on the actual delivery time it takes a message to arrive at its destination. NOTE 1: This feature isn't supported on all systems. All DOS and Windows, as well as several Unix ports, do not recognize this feature. NOTE 2: Error handling is significantly different when this feature is enabled. Any message posting failure results in the message being appended to your "Interrupted" mail folder. When you type the "Compose" command, Pine will notice this folder and offer to extract any messages contained. Upon continuing a failed message, Pine will display the nature of the failure in the status message line. WARNING: Under extreme conditions, it is possible for message data to get lost. Do not enable this feature if you typically run close to any sort of disk-space limits or quotas. Don't know if it works for linux ... Sebastian -- ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sebastian Bunka ph. (+43-1) 250 77 4208 Institute of FAX (+43-1) 250 77 4290 Medical Chemistry email: Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at University of Veterinary Medicine - Vienna - Austria ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18552 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20378 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:33:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA20368 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:33:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGmW-00038bC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greenleaf Subject: Help Required Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:01:28 +0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages from "A" to "B". When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18662 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18460 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:43:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18456 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:43:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGyY-00038bC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Wood Subject: NE Nice Editor Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:57:11 -0500 Message-ID: <32CD1E47.36B3@intermicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone do any programming modifications to the ne editor. I need 2 major modifications: 1) ne needs to be able to read a printer configuration file that I've already made. ne would then use the printer aliases in this file to give the user the ability to choose which system printer to print to. 2) Mail Merge capability. ne needs to accept a file as the 2nd argument. The first argument is the file to edit. The second argument is a filename containing a list of name, addresses, etc. that would be merged into the document. If anyone would like some contract work please call: Eric Wood International Micro, Inc. Phone:864-676-2170 Fax:864-676-2175 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:42:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19382 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA21049 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:38:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA21045 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:38:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viHo3-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 02:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: using lockf with pine? Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:39:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> On 7 Jan 1997, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > My site wants to use lockf as the primary locking scheme across mail platforms. > What do I have to do to configure pine to do this? I saw in c-client/flock.c > what appears to be code to do this, but I am currently confused what to > set where in the configuration, which turns out to be on Digital Unix > (have been using OSF as the config) There is no configuration to set here. lockf() is not a system call. The system calls in question are flock() and fcntl(). flock() is the appropriate call on OSF/1. flock() is a no-op over NFS. This is OK, since the only locks maintained by flock() are locks for mechanisms that can't work over NFS anyway. No, you do not want to do multiple simultaneous shared read/write access using NFS. You don't want to do fcntl() locking if you have flock(). fcntl() tries to lock over NFS, but attemping to use this capability will cause a cluster-wide hang. Trust us, not the vendor; it doesn't work. If your vendor says it does work, get him to commit to it in writing, and commit to giving you lots of free hardware when it fails. ;-) The primary lock for UNIX mbox format files is the .lock file, which does work over NFS. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:09:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19606 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA19291 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:03:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19287 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:03:51 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:03:01 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:03:00 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: greenleaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help Required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, greenleaf wrote: > Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". > At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages > from "A" to "B". > When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works > perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message > appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays > at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which > we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in > advance. Not a pine config....but a .forward config: Use: \usernameA usernameB@B.foo.bar OK? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:22:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19695 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA19510 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:18:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA19506 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:18:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viIQW-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 03:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: Bug: Wildcard in filename Date: 9 Jan 1997 10:00:39 +0100 Message-ID: <5b2c3n$dl-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Hi, I wanted to include some files in a mail (named file, file-1, file-2, ..., file-9) and typed "file*" at the prompt after pressing Ctrl-R. The result was that pine crashed with "IO Trap, aborted". -- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux (0221-9624593 login gast/gast). e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de schaaf@borneo.gmd.de (finger for public PGP-Key). www : http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:42:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA22030 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA24917 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (orion.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.236]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24913 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (bap@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA19436 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Beta Alpha Psi X-Sender: bap@orion Reply-To: Beta Alpha Psi To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII two things I want to know about pine 1. how do I make forwarded messages be deleted on forward 2. how do I turn off prompt at begining of month asking if I want to delete sent-mail-lastmonth to save disk space. I never want to delete sent-mail! Thanks Please reply to bap@sfsu.edu because I don't subscribe to newsgroup From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:08:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA22729 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA23313 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:01:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA23309 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:01:45 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id KAA61452; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:59:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:59:14 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones To: Edward M Greshko cc: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps it might be a little less "ugly" to make sure that mail sent is being saved to folders, and then print from those. I realize this means that it can only be printed after sending, rather than before. On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: | On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, William Barker wrote: | | > In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending | > someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself | > a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print | > out a message before I send it off? | | This "ugly" but should work. | | 1. When you are finished composing, use ctrl-O to Postpone. | 2. Change to the postpone folder. | 3. V(iew) the message you want to print. | 4. Y(int) the message. | | You can they type c(ompose) to resume and then (of course) | ctrl-x to send..... | | | -- | Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce | Control Data Asia/Pacific Region | Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 | FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C | | | Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:46:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24091 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26270 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:39:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26263 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:39:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viNR1-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 08:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cfmc@henge1.henge.com (Bill Cripe) Subject: How to prevent pine from dialing out? Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:57:46 GMT Message-ID: <5au6ba$3ns@henge2.henge.com> I'm running on an SCO 3.0 system, which attempts to make ppp connections on demand. If my machine is not connected to the Internet and someone wants to read their mail or compose new mail they have to wait for pine to connect before they can begin. If the connection fails the person can't use pine at all. It seems that there must be a way to suppress this attempt to connect to the Internet, but I haven't found it. Setting my mail server to localhost looked like it ought to work, but didn't. What is it that pine is trying to do that makes it connect to the Internet at startup rather than waiting for new outgoing mail to be launched? My system pulls e-mail to it via POP3, so there is no need for pine to be looking for new mail. Thanks for the help, Bill Cripe -- Computers for Marketing Corporation Voice: (303) 860-1811 1888 Sherman Street, #425 Fax: (303) 860-0501 Denver, CO 80203 e-mail: denver@cfmc.com U.S.A http://www.cfmc.com/denver From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:02:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA24586 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA24588 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:55:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24584 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:55:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA07118 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:49:52 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:49:52 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: LCC Field Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does the LCC field have to contain an address book entry? Or can I just somehow type in a list of intended recipiants? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA24734 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA26932 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA26928 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (vcr@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA17168 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:06:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: krypton.mankato.msus.edu: vcr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:06:28 -0600 (CST) From: Robin Mata To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Creating a mailgroup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I create a "subdirectory" to keep selected e-mails in there? Thanks Robin R. Mata MBA Program Mankato State University *============================================================* "Keep striving for the heights, ...soon you're gonna get wings" *============================================================* e- mail: vcr@krypton.mankato.msus.edu home page: http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~vcr/vcr.html *============================================================* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:19:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25051 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA24820 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA24816 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viNsm-00038lC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA ! Date: 8 Jan 1997 00:22:59 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> On Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:17:41 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: There is a lot of misinformation in your post, which I wish to correct. >Please note, MAC runs a simply, tiny VT100 emulation program, not a Mail >program (such as EUDORA) in TCP/IP which requires a Powerful hardware >(>386). a) Eudora does not need powerful hardware, nor does it *have* to be run over a tcp/ip stack. Eudora has, and still does, support a simple serial connection to a terminal server from where it can issue "telnet host 110" and "telnet host 25" commands to interact with a pop3 server and a smtp server. >THIS MEANS THAT YOU REQUIRE A SIMPLY VERY OLD MAC OR EVEN 8088 (XT!!) TO >CHECK AND WRITE YOUR MAIL. b) It has been possible to use TCP/IP as a networking protocol on low end processors - such as the intel 8088 and intel 8086. I would not be surprised to find a tcp/ip stack for m68k Macs that have 68000 processors, such as the Mac Plus or Mac SE (68020?). >Not only, you do not require even TCP/IP support, that normally it is >not freeware. c) Again, *free* TCP/IP stacks have been available for DOS (and perhaps MacOS) for a long time. >AND you need just a inexpensive 1200 or 2400 baud modem! Not a 14400 or >more. Modem speed has little to do with tcp/ip. I was using a 2400 bps modem for a SLIP link in 1988. I believe I used POPmail/PC (from the Univ. of Minnesota) as pop3 client at that time. I appreciate that you like a Unix curses interface to your mail and HTML. I also happen to like the same. I did however wish to point out that even fairly low-end platforms can use tcp/ip as a networking protocol. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 197