From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 00:27:51 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:27:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32224; Tue, 1 Oct 96 00:27:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA08138 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:24:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA08133 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 00:24:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v7zA2-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 00:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruth Anne Ladue Subject: Re: Enabling the mbox driver Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 15:43:21 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52bt9r$8qe@unix.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 25 Sep 1996, David L Miller wrote: > If mail is delivered to /usr/spool/mail and you want Pine to move > incoming messages to ~/mbox, build Pine as follows: > > build sol EXTRADRIVERS=mbox This was the solution. Thanks! --Ruth Anne From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 03:49:34 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00629; Tue, 1 Oct 96 03:49:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA20247 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:46:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA20242 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:46:27 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjnn10793; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:46:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06597; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:44 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07829; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:45:58 -0300 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:41:37 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: .pine.debug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:45:50 -0300 (GMT) Resent-From: Omar Butaiban Resent-To: pine-info Resent-Message-Id: i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 03:50:03 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32732; Tue, 1 Oct 96 03:50:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA12050 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA12045 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 03:47:47 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjnn10935; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:47:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06600; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:49:09 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07834; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:21 -0300 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:47:20 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Cc: Omar Butaiban Subject: .pine.debug (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 04:07:38 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00357; Tue, 1 Oct 96 04:07:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20965 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:05:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA20951 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 04:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v82Zo-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 04:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: how to change "To:" header with Bcc:? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:34:19 GMT Ted Chang (chang@gusun.georgetown.edu) wrote: : When I use Bcc, it hides all the addresses that I am mailing to. However, : the header it uses says "To: Undisclosed recipients;". is there any way i : can set the title of the To: header so that it doesn't look like i'm : sending out top secret information? I'd like to set the To: header so : that it gives the name of my mailing list. : please email me at chang@gusun.georgetown.edu : ted From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 06:19:49 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:19:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05006; Tue, 1 Oct 96 06:19:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24749 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:14:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24744 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 06:14:54 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 1 Oct 96 21:20:09 +0800 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 21:13:52 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: .pine.debug (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home > directory to another direcotory > can you help me on that please > i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc Unless you have a "very" good reason for this it is just not advised. It will endup causing you more problems than it is worth. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 07:08:12 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02667; Tue, 1 Oct 96 07:08:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA17069 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:04:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lex.lccc.edu (lex.lccc.edu [198.139.135.128]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA17062 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:04:40 -0700 Received: (asc0@localhost) by lex.lccc.edu (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) id OAA00402; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:06:19 GMT Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:06:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Anna Colosi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reading attached files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a new user and can not read attachments set to me. They are word documents that I can not read. Do I have to config something? Thanks. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Anna Colosi $ Director of Instructional Technology $ Lehigh Carbon Community College $ Schnecksville, PA 18078 $ (610)799-1591 $ fax (610)799-1527 $ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 07:58:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04972; Tue, 1 Oct 96 07:58:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA18071 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hazel.interpath.com (user-37kb94k.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.164.148]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA18066 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 07:53:56 -0700 Received: from hazel (charlton@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hazel.interpath.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA00238 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:54:55 -0400 Message-Id: <325130BF.5AF78455@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 10:54:55 -0400 From: "John D. Charlton" X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.10 i486) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: changing my "from:" header X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00291.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Problem: I have a mailbox named 'jcharlt@mindspring.com' and my linux login id is 'charlton'. I want pine to use 'jdcharlt@mindspring.com as my 'from' address. Please let me know if this is possible with pine. John -------------------------------------------------------------- John D. Charlton, Intelligent Visual Computing (IVC): IVC: charlton@ivc.com, 919-363-0292, ext. 112 MindSpring: jdcharlt@mindspring.com -------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 08:55:38 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24391; Tue, 1 Oct 96 08:55:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19773 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:50:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA19768 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:50:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8753-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 08:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Re: Spell Checker for PC-Pine 3.95 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:00:39 -0700 Message-Id: <324C1647.18C5@CaC.washington.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The URL for the program at its developers' site is now http://clever.net/quinion/mqa/spell.htm -- we'll update our documentation accordingly. Cheryl Thuot wrote: > > I'm looking for a spell checker for PC-Pine 3.95. I've tried the web > sites documented in the release notes but the links do not work. > Specifically, I've tried ftp://oak.oakland/SimTel/win3/wp and > http://clever.net/quinion/spell/Where.htm. Does anyone know where I might > find this? > > Thanks. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 09:05:15 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:05:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09739; Tue, 1 Oct 96 09:05:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA28826 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from litton.net (master.litton.net [159.201.17.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA28821 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:42 -0700 Received: from littongcs.com by litton.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA19634; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:37 -0700 Received: from cie0.littongcs.com by littongcs.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA21363; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:32 -0700 Received: from loo.littongcs.com by cie0.littongcs.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA23951; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 09:00:27 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 08:59:15 -0700 () From: Joseph Loo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pruning Files Message-Id: X-X-Sender: loo@cie_0.littongcs.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am running pc-pine for Win 95, using version 3.95 of the 32 bit version. In general the product works pretty nice. I have a problem with the automatic pruning facilities. I configured pine to use a remote file as the sent-mail. This allows me to look at the sent mail regardless of the platform. Whenever the beginning of the month rolls in, the PC-Pine version nevers prompts me to prune the sent-mail. It updates the prune date with no problem. I then went into the configuration and altered the prune-folders. I set it with the following configuration: {cie0}~/mail/sent-mail and {cie0}~/mail/[] sent-mail. Both configuration does not seem to allow the automatic pruning. Am I doing something wrong? Joseph Loo Litton Guidance & Control 19601 Nordhoff St. N86 Northridge, CA 91324-2422 (818) 886-2211 x2336 loo@littongcs.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 10:18:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:18:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12278; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:18:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA01531 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA01526 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v88Lg-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Connections to IMAP server using PINE Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:56:14 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: To fix this problem, try the following steps: Debugging step 1: What happens when you issue the command rsh server exec /etc/rimapd (substitute your server's name for the word "server"). Did you get the 30 second delay? Debugging step 2: Now, try the command telnet server 143 Did you presently get a line starting with "* OK" with no 30 second delay? (Type "x logout" followed by a return to quit). Diagnostic step: If the answer to both debugging steps is "yes", then the problem is that your site does not have the "rimap" preauthentication capability enabled. Normally, this would not be a problem; rimap would just be refused and it would fall into ordinary IMAP. But, your site also has disabled rsh. Unfortunately, the way that it was disabled is one that the rsh program does not recognize. Most Internet protocols recognize an IP or TCP level "refused" condition as meaning "go away", but the authors of rsh decided that "refused" means "keep on trying" instead. Most common methods of disabling services, such as router filters and TCP wrappers, use a "refused" condition and don't know how to do rsh's own funky way of refusing ("permission denied"). Remedial step for Pine 3.95: If you have Pine 3.95, look for the following entry in .pinerc: # Zero disables rsh altogether. rsh-open-timeout=15 Change that "15" (or "5" or whatever it's set to) to "0". Remedial step for older versions of Pine: In .pinerc, change all references to the problematic server to include ":143" after the system name. For example, inbox-path={myserver}INBOX should be changed to inbox-path={myserver:143}INBOX Be sure to also check your folder-collections and incoming folders as necessary. Don't change any NNTP references (e.g. news-collections). If this doesn't seem to be what you need to do, please write again. On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Peter Beckman wrote: > We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get > our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get > my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or > are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to > eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute > yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? > > Please e-mail responses. > > Peter > -- > Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA > beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 10:29:09 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:29:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31482; Tue, 1 Oct 96 10:29:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22910 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sub.sonic.net (sub.sonic.net [199.4.118.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA22903 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:38 -0700 Received: from sonic.net (lav@sonic.net [199.4.118.11]) by sub.sonic.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA24343 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 10:26:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PICO Editor...? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi... Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? Thanks. :) Lavender Rose @}->--LR--<-{@ lav@sonic.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:24:24 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:24:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14156; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:24:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA24793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:21:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA24786 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:21:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89MJ-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Re: PICO Editor...? Date: 1 Oct 1996 18:04:58 GMT Message-Id: <52rmga$f4t@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: lav@sonic.net ("Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon") writes: >Hi... >Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? Isn't it included with the Pine distribution? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://itp1.physik.tu-berlin.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:28:16 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14306; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:28:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA03728 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wetlands.nwi.fws.gov (wetlands.nwi.fws.gov [192.189.43.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA03720 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:25:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by wetlands.nwi.fws.gov (5.x/SMI-4.1) id AA23971; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:25:51 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:25:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Tim Fritz X-Sender: tim@wetlands To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: trying to prune more folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to get pine to prune folders in addition to the fcc folder. I added: pruned-folders=~/Mail/autosave-person1, ~/Mail/autosave-person2 to my .pinerc. These are folders where I have procmail save messages from certain individuals I made need later. I wasn't asked about pruning these folders this morning. What am I doing wrong. Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Tim Fritz, Computer Operator | tim@wetlands.nwi.fws.gov U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service | voice 813.570.5426 National Wetlands Inventory | http://www.nwi.fws.gov St. Petersburg, FL | 27 51 35 N -82 38 31 W ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 11:39:23 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:39:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11315; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:39:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA04152 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:36:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA04147 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:36:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89aj-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: signature: how to use or not use??? Date: 27 Sep 1996 07:46:13 GMT Message-Id: <52g0o5$mci@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Enrico Degli Espoti Elisi (edeelisi@peabody.jhu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I have a signature written with "pico" (pico .signature) and when I use | pine the sign. automatically appears on the bottom. If I don't want to | send my signature without delete the file .signature, what can I do? Deleting the lines of the signature in your message by hand (with ^K). HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ La civilisation n'est autre chose que le mode de végétation propre à l'humanité. -- V. Hugo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 12:02:40 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15473; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:02:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA25988 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA25983 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v89wc-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 11:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: Delivery Filtering into folders Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:56:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52pthd$cf9@swen.emba.uvm.edu> On 1 Oct 1996, Steve Moyer wrote: > I would like to know if there is any way to have mail automatically > placed into folders based on the "to" or "reply to" address. The purpose is to > have mail from mailing lists automatically placed into the appropriate > folders before I even use Pine. Can't with Pine. You can do it with procmail though. Try 'man procmail'. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 12:59:17 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:59:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16677; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:59:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA06585 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA06580 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Aug-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 12:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hchapman@blue.seas.upenn.edu (Speed Racer) Subject: ^W [^Y/^V] - Vanished Date: 1 Oct 1996 19:35:53 GMT Message-Id: <52rrqp$ior@netnews.upenn.edu> I remember that these commands used to be in pico. What happened to them? For anyone who doesn't know: ^W - Where is followed by ^Y - beginning of file ^V - end of file R. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 15:29:53 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20639; Tue, 1 Oct 96 15:29:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA03422 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA03414 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:26:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8DC5-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 15:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ed Greshko" Subject: Re: Undelete??? Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 23:51:19 +0800 Message-Id: <01bbaee7.96f15f60$1511b381@edspc17> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Colleen Bridge wrote in article ... > > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) I assume you d(elete) (mark for deletion) then x(punge). If so, you "may" be out of luck. If you are running PC-Pine and Win95 they may still be in your "Recycle-Bin". If you are on U*IX pine maybe your sysadmin had done a file system backup. Good Luck From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 19:19:42 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15113; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:19:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19595 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:17:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19590 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:17:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Gmq-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Barnes Subject: pine 3.95 annoyance report Date: Tue, 01 Oct 1996 18:56:59 -0700 Message-Id: <3251CBEB.1723@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I have the option "sort inbox by date" (vs. default of arrival) enabled, when pine starts it leaves an annoying "Sorting inbox - 100% complete" (or something to that affect) message on the main menu. Couldn't this be cleared after a second or so? When it sends mail, and gets 100% complete, that message doesn't stay on the screen. Seems one would like to be consistent. This is unix pine compiled on DEC OSF, etc, latest verisons, on alphas. Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 19:24:07 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27106; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:24:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA11088 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA11083 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 19:22:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8GtY-00038TC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 19:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert F Evans Jr Subject: Re: y Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 12:30:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> On 27 Sep 1996, SPRAGUE MARIAT wrote: > > > Regards, Bob =============================================================== Robert Evans bob@purdue.edu Coordinator of Technical Services (317)494-2658 work Purdue University http://www.soe.purdue.edu/staff/misc/bob/ School of Education, LAEB 6139 (317)494-5832 fax West Lafayette, IN 47907 bob@soe.purdue.edu =============================================================== "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Tue Oct 1 20:29:14 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25952; Tue, 1 Oct 96 20:29:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA12191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:26:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com [149.174.213.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA12186 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:26:18 -0700 Received: from GATEWAY.COMPUSERVE.COM..compuserve.com (md43-018.compuserve.com [195.232.54.18]) by dub-mail-svc-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA04481.; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:26:16 -0400 Message-Id: <3251D29C.2E1B@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 04:25:32 +0200 From: uwe <100610.1673@compuserve.com> Organization: brains X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 [de] (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: anonymous X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00527.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i urgently need an anonymous server to move in the net as i have to without getting troubles as had like murder threads just by posting teddybear gifs instead of child porn just to make it little more dificult to find these cruel pics can you help? tell me what to do its really urgent. i would apreciate a step by step instruction if possible, i have no probs paying this service uwe z. KITSUP! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31188; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:29:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA23124 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA23119 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:27:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Jp1-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meacham@teleport.com (Guy Meacham) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 05:18:47 GMT Message-Id: <52stvn$e0t@nadine.teleport.com> References: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:02:11 -0700 Michael Darius wrote: : I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. : or figure out another way to accomplish this task... : I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. : In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. : I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if : it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded : to their email address... : an example of what I have tried: : if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com : if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com : : none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should : look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail to: : darius@alliedproductions.com or, post to this newsgroup... : : : thanks for your time....Michael Darius I do not think you can do this just with your .forward file I think you need to look at something like procmail. check out man procmail and man procmailex. -- Guy Meacham.......................finger -l meacham@teleport.com Rippingale Nursery...............http://www.teleport.com/~meacham/ . "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -- Thomas Edison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:47:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02193; Tue, 1 Oct 96 22:47:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA23372 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id WAA23364 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 22:46:01 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjql29639; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:45:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA07596; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:46:57 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12392; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:45:04 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:45:03 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: .pine.debug (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > > i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home > > directory to another direcotory > > can you help me on that please > > i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc > > Unless you have a "very" good reason for this it is just > not advised. It will endup causing you more problems than it > is worth. > > Regards, yes , i have a good reason , my home directory is full of hidden files , so i just i want my home directory to be not filled with these hidden files so i just want to move them to a directory called .pine in this directory all files related to pine are there so can you help me please one more thing , can i move .pinerc file from my home directory? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:15:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30568; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:15:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA15133 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:12:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA15128 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:12:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8KSU-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Oldfield Subject: [Q] IMAP mailbox access from linux pine Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:53:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII All my email comes to a single logon on a unix machine at work (lets call it fbloggs@workmachine.somedomain). I sit at a PC, so I am using PC-Pine to read and send mail and it all works a treat. At home I have a linux machine with access to the internet via a service provider (lets call it fred@homemachine.anotherdomain). I have now installed pine 3.95 on it and can also read and send email from there. My PC-Pine setup asks me for a username and passwd once when I start it up and from then on it all just works. Unfortunately my linux pine asks me for a username and password every time I turn around. Is there any way I can make it behave similarly to the PC-Pine and just ask me the once at startup ? I have a number of folder collections on the email machine, and my linux box is set up to use the email host for sending mail as well (rather than using a local sendmail setup). Please reply by email to S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au. Thanks in advance Simon Oldfield _____________________________________________________________________ Simon Oldfield Email: S.Oldfield@nla.gov.au CSC Australia Phone: +61-6-262-1128 A Unit of Computer Sciences Corporation Fax: +61-6-273-2116 _____________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30410; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:34:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA24035 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA24030 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:32:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8KnR-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mist@cyberus.ca Subject: Newsgroups header in Pine and Eudora Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 05:47:51 GMT Message-Id: <52t00j$iu@lex.zippo.com> Try as I might, I cannot find a way of getting either Eudora Lite or Unix PINE to let me type in a "Newsgroups" header which I need for bunging an article through a mail2news gateway. Is it possible? How please? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26034; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:45:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA15590 for pine-info-out; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA15583 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 1996 23:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Kz3-00038BC; Tue, 1 Oct 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clary Harridge Subject: default editor Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 13:07:30 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? I have tried combinations of # enable-alternate-editor-cmd enable-alternate-editor-implicitly editor=/usr/local/bin/jove in my .pinerc without success. I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32400; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:57:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA25837 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:52:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA25832 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:52:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Mz8-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL (Dick Hogeweg) Subject: Re: how to change "To:" header with Bcc:? Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 06:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <52t2hl$ciq@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: In article , Ted Chang wrote: >When I use Bcc, it hides all the addresses that I am mailing to. However, >the header it uses says "To: Undisclosed recipients;". is there any way i >can set the title of the To: header so that it doesn't look like i'm >sending out top secret information? I'd like to set the To: header so >that it gives the name of my mailing list. Sure you can look at "empty-header-message" of setup configuration. Kind regards, Dick Hogeweg Email: D.J.Hogeweg@CRI.LeidenUniv.NL WWW: http://www.LeidenUniv.NL CRI, instituut voor telecommunicatie _______ en computerdienstverlening | Postbus 9512, 2300 RA Leiden Rijks Universiteit Leiden | tel. +31 71 5276900, fax +31 71 5276967 | | | | | | | - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32523; Wed, 2 Oct 96 01:58:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA17301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:56:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goliat.eik.bme.hu (goliat.eik.bme.hu [152.66.250.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA17296 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:55:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (dico@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by goliat.eik.bme.hu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA26821 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:54:16 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:54:15 +0200 (MET DST) From: DIAMANT Peter To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: What is it ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send me an info ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19462; Wed, 2 Oct 96 03:56:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA18718 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:53:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA18713 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 03:53:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Ot8-00038UC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 03:50 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmartin@iastate.edu (David Martin) Subject: phoney INBOX for PC Pine? Date: 2 Oct 1996 10:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <52tgbf$967@news.iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 I wish to use PC Pine to send but not receive. My site has no IMAP server. How can I configure PC Pine so that it does not fail with an error message that it can't open the INBOX. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30440; Wed, 2 Oct 96 04:50:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA27989 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA27984 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 04:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Pjn-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 04:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: header question Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 18:57:45 GMT Message-Id: <529ar3$nvm@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Put your list address in the "Lcc" header instead of the "To" header and your recipients will see the list name in the "To" field rather than all the individual addresses. If you're using a version of Pine prior to 3.95, use the "Bcc" header instead and put your own address in the "To" header. Bcc and Lcc can be revealed using CTRL-R while in the header section of your message, if they're not already visible. -Ram Basu -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Fri, 20 Sep 1996 19:07:35 -0400, Scabby wrote: >I have a mailing list for a club here at school. The problem is that when >I do a mailing, the other students have to scroll through all the >addresses of the other members. Is there a way to suppress this? I have >been all through the configuration and can't find one. Thanks for any help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:06:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32011; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:06:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28148 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA28143 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:19 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrk03203; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09307; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:46 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15662; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:58 -0300 Date: Sun, 15 Sep 1996 11:21:41 -0300 (GMT) From: roam X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: "Alfredo E. Alvarenga" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <323AAE33.591A5057@capecod.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:46 -0300 (GMT) Resent-From: Omar Butaiban Resent-To: pine-info Resent-Message-Id: Hi, can i make aliasses for hostnames like this: kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw can i put instead of that server a nickname , { kuc01 } and e-mail all the users that on that server by for example instead of el941826@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw i can put el941826@kuc01 and md950117@kuc01 thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31349; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:06:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19734 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19729 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Pyz-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 11:16:58 GMT Message-Id: <52tiva$n6m@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, Michael Darius (darius@alliedproductions.com) affirmait publiquement que: | I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if it | says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded to | their email address... Well, you could ask your ISP what filter program(s) he offers... But I guest that "filter" (from ELM package) and "procmail" should be installed. | an example of what I have tried: | if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com | if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com For exact syntax, please read the manpages... man filter or man procmail HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ On considère comme normal de vénérer, en général, la virginité et d'aspirer ardemment, en particulier, à sa destruction. -- K. Kraus From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29877; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:21:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28345 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA28340 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8QAA-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spraguem@clem.mscd.edu (SPRAGUE MARIAT) Subject: y Date: 27 Sep 1996 17:12:45 GMT Message-Id: <52h1ud$er@clem.mscd.edu> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00664; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:22:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA19931 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA19926 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:18:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8QD2-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 94Eshum@uxmail.ust.hk (Shum Wai Leung) Subject: How to send mail to a GROUP and use .sig Date: 2 Oct 1996 11:52:13 GMT Message-Id: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> As title, I want to know to use send mail to a group of people. As I know that in Unix mail, we can creat a file to make this function. But what can I do in Unix Pine. Moreover I want to attach .sig in my mail. Should I creat a file .sig in my home directory ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:43:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01768; Wed, 2 Oct 96 05:43:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA28503 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA28498 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 05:31:28 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrl06334; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:27:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09327; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:29:00 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15942; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:26:51 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:26:50 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: "Ashraf M. Ezz" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: <323FF484.55DE@eis.com.eg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can i install pine on SUN ? I am not a super user ! *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01357; Wed, 2 Oct 96 06:34:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA20815 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA20810 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:29:02 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Oct 96 21:34:07 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:27:47 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > How can i install pine on SUN ? > I am not a super user ! It need not be installed in a "system" area. You can have it in your (for example) $HOME/bin directory. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02174; Wed, 2 Oct 96 06:39:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA29326 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id GAA29321 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 06:37:40 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA12659; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA12047; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA29107; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:35:10 EDT Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:35:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > > How can i install pine on SUN ? > I am not a super user ! Anonymous ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu, cd to pine/unix-bin-compressed, set binary mode, and mget *.sun.Z When you get the files in your home directory, uncompress each, and chmod +x each executable. You will have pine, pico, and pilot. I think that's all you need to do. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10927; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:07:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA29719 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id HAA29714 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:04:33 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjrs19522; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:02:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09394; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:56 -0300 Received: from bahra by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16338; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:01:51 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:14:01 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@bahra To: Ed Greshko Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can you tell me how to install pine please?? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30773; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:14:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA29835 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:10:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA29830 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:10:09 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:15:24 +0800 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:09:04 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Omar Butaiban Cc: "Ashraf M. Ezz" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > can you tell me how to install pine please?? Your question is very broad. Do you need to know information about the compliation of pine or will you simply acquire pre compiled binaries from the ftp.cac.washington.edu? If you acquire the pre-compiled binaries for the platform you are using you could simply place it in a directory which is contained in your PATH and change permissions to 555 or 111. If this is not sufficient to answer your request then I'm afraid you'll have to be a bit more specific as to what type of information you need. BTW, if I'm not mistaken the pine source code comes with a README file that will be of valuable assistance if you decide to read it. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02042; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:47:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA00508 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA00503 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 07:43:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8STg-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 07:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: pine Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:41:14 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Oct 1996, Omar Butaiban wrote: > can you tell me how to install pine please?? That is much too large a task to discuss briefly on this newsgroup. Please fetch the Pine distribution and read the documentation. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00004; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:41:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA23280 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:38:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA23275 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:38:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8TMf-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (Michael J. Graham) Subject: Pine for DB/UX 4.11?? Date: 27 Sep 1996 14:57:11 -0500 Message-Id: <52hbin$q9a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Hi I'm wondering if anyone has gotten pine to compile for the DG/UX platform? I'm having a terrible time getting it to compile and am wondering if anyone has gotten it to work Mike mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu -- -Mike mgraham@s-cwis.unomaha.edu GO HUSKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:51:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05017; Wed, 2 Oct 96 08:51:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA02163 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:48:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.tamu.edu (MAIL.TAMU.EDU [128.194.103.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA02158 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:48:54 -0700 Received: from VMS2.TAMU.EDU (VLP7825 #VMS_PID=204580C8 #Image=DSA200+[PUBLIC_DOMAIN.AXP.][NET]PINE-3_91.EXE@VMS2.TAMU.EDU [128.194.103.14]) by mail.tamu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id KAA27040 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:48:53 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:48:53 +0000 From: "PEART, VICKI LEE " X-Sender: VLP7825@VMS2.TAMU.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: abort problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I keep getting this messages back saying file aborted, and then I get closed out of the system. Or I'll try to delete and it won't let me. Please help Vicki Peart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:15:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06160; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:15:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA02820 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA02815 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:08:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Toh-00038UC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lazarus@netaxs.com (Methuselah) Subject: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc Date: 2 Oct 1996 15:55:57 GMT Message-Id: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when viewing messages. Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs (such as "more"). Thanks for any advice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:18:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21369; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:18:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA03060 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca (asl7.asl-labs.bc.ca [192.139.196.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA03055 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:43 -0700 Received: from grizzly by asl-labs.bc.ca (8.6.13/200.15.1.2) id JAA22869; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:13:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199610021613.JAA22869@asl-labs.bc.ca > From: Brian Hampson Date: Wed, 02 Oct 96 09:13:36 -0700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for DG/UX 4.11?? In-Reply-To: <52hbin$q9a@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> X-Mailer: MR/2 Internet Cruiser Edition for OS/2 v1.14 (Unregistered) Hi, On 09/27/96 at 02:57 PM, you said: >Hi > I'm wondering if anyone has gotten pine to compile for the >DG/UX platform? I'm having a terrible time getting it to compile and am >wondering if anyone has gotten it to work DG/UX 4.11 MU02 - no problems that I can recall over here. -- "A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila ." Brian P. Hampson ASL Analytical Service Laboratories Ltd System Administrator, Vancouver, BC (604)253-4188 ----------------- http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/ ---------------------------- These opinions are MINE I tell you ....all mine!!! (nobody else wants them) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05600; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:29:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA24875 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:26:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA24870 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:26:38 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: [139.141.1.3]) id QQbjsb17811; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:26:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA09541; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:28:10 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16944; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:26:20 -0300 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:26:16 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , i have threee folders in Folder-collection and i want to do this i want the mails that come from pine-info news group to go to the folder pine and the mails that come from emacs newsgroup to go to emacs folder can i do this in pine ? i mean can i let an email messege that i know where is from tha go a a specific folder ? thanks *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29139; Wed, 2 Oct 96 09:44:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA25342 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:41:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA25335 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 09:41:32 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:46:45 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:40:26 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when > viewing messages. > > Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing > every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no > headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not > show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs > (such as "more"). > Look in setup/config.... Find: [X] enable-full-header-cmd Read the Help on that command and see if it meets your needs. With that command enabled you can hit "h" when vewing a message and *all* the headers will appear. Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:09:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04132; Wed, 2 Oct 96 10:09:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA04582 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:05:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA04577 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:05:05 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:00:14 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id SAA09503; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:04:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:04:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <52u3ad$fbv@netaxs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The idea of "viewer-hdrs" is that you _explicitly_ list the headers you want showing by default. If you want to see _all_ of the headers of a message don't try and do it by fiddling with "viewer-hdrs". Instead enable the "full headers" command in Pine's Setup Configuration screen and then give the "H" command when viewing a message. The change in the Setup Configuration screen remains in effect for future Pine sessions. The "H" command remains in effect (certainly for the current folder, I can't remember if for subsequent folders) until you leave Pine or toggle it off by another "H" command. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > This setting seems to ask for a list of the headers one wishes to see when > viewing messages. > > Is there some way to set it to view *all* the headers, without listing > every conceivable one? I tried "viewer-hdrs=all" and pine displayed no > headers at all - that was amusing. The default "viewer-hdrs=" does not > show all the headers one sees by viewing the INBOX with other programs > (such as "more"). > > Thanks for any advice. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06982; Wed, 2 Oct 96 10:59:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA06316 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:55:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from umbc7.umbc.edu (f-umbc7.umbc.edu [130.85.3.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA06309 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 10:55:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (zhangwob@localhost) by umbc7.umbc.edu (8.6.12/Umbc) with SMTP id NAA17516 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:40 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: umbc7.umbc.edu: zhangwob owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Diana Zhang Wobus, CHPDM, UMBC" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to create lists of addresses? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Even since Pine was updated (about a month or so ago at my site), I can no longer create separate lists of addresses where I group addresses. The list options that was on the older version of Pine somehow is not there anymore. What happened and how do I create lists? --Diana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09822; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:46:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA07555 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA07549 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:39:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8WA2-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d92-msa@dront.nada.kth.se (Magnus Sandberg) Subject: Incoming Folders Date: 2 Oct 1996 17:28:40 GMT Message-Id: <52u8o8$337@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have a problem with incoming folders. I am using procmail to sort incoming mail and I'm trying to use 'Incoming Message Folders' feature in Pine . I use 'A' to add a new folder, pressing return on 'remote server' and stating a path to the folder (ex. ~d92-msa/incoming-mail/abc_list). So far so good. I can access all my messages but it's immpossible to use TAB to get to the next New message. What do I do wrong? If this problem is solved will Pine alert me if on incoming mail in my extra folders? thanks /M -- Be Ye Not Lost Among Precepts of Order... - The Book of Uterus 1;5 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11467; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:01:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA29675 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:59:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA29668 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8WQb-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 11:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:12:14 GMT pine -i Patrick M. McMillin (patmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu) wrote: : How do I configure my pine to go directly to : inbox upon starting the porgram ? : |) : / : /| Patrick M. McMillin : / |__ The University of Texas at Austin : ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu : \_|_/ : J From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:26:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11699; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:26:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA08877 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA08872 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:24:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Wqa-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 12:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dara Ghahremani Subject: Pine for Mac? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 17:05:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Are there any plans to make Pine for Macintosh? I'm sure this is a common question, though, I haven't seen any info about this anywhere. Thanks, Dara From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15170; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:06:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA03335 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:59:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA03327 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:59:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8YIV-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 13:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Becki (aka Gidget)" Subject: NEED to bounce Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 06:24:11 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please tell me if it is possible (and if so how in detailled description- step by step) if I can automatically bounce mail from a a particular address so I don't even ever see it in my inbox? I'm using Pine 3.95 if that helps. Please reply by email to s441748@student.gu.edu.au thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15977; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:42:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA12955 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA12950 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:39:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8YzD-00038VC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andyb@coat.com (Andy Behrens) Subject: Re: How do I stop (or increase the delay) for mailbox checkpointing? Date: 2 Oct 1996 19:57:07 GMT Message-Id: <52uhej$e7a@pub.news.uk.psi.net> References: Tom Zerucha (root@deimos.ceddec.com) wrote: > OK, I get two asterisks, so it is saving the state of the mailbox. How > do I make it stop doing this every few minutes or so? It is really > annoying since it will buffer keystrokes for the 10-30 seconds or more it > takes, so I may inadvertently delete messages or worse. A checkpoint that takes 30 seconds is taking too long. Rather than increase the checkpoint interval, you would be better off fixing the problem. Unless your mailbox is truly enormous (say, bigger than 10 Mb) the delay is probably caused by a mailbox that is NFS-mounted from another machine. This is definitely not a recommended configuration -- it will certainly be slow; and file locking across NFS has timing problems that increase the risk (admittedly small) of corrupting the contents of the mailbox. If your mailbox is really located on another host, the best solution is to install an IMAP server on that machine and configure Pine to access your mail via IMAP. The Pine distribution includes such a server (imapd) if you don't already have one. But if you feel that you have no alternative but to increase the checkpoint time, you can adjust that by redefining CHECK_POINT_TIME or CHECK_POINT_FREQ and recompiling. These symbols are defined in the include file "pine/osdep/os-???.h" (where ??? is the appropriate code for your operating system). Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:46:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16005; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:46:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA04561 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04554 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:44:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Z2P-00038YC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: proper use of fcc Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:31:27 GMT Message-Id: <52uc9f$vj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <325265FB.5146@mayo.edu> I'm using 3.95 and can't remember if 3.91 worked exactly the same, but assuming it does... In Pine on your other account, find the section under Config called "customized-hdrs" and add the following: Bcc: maddox@mayo.edu This will ensure that you get a Blind Carbon Copy (other recipients won't see you as a recipient) of all outgoing messages from your other account. If you want to change this for a particular outgoing message, use CTRL-R (rich headers) to view the Bcc field and change or delete the contents. You can also add the Bcc field to your "default-composer-hdrs" section so you'll see it each time. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:54:19 -0500, maddox wrote: >I am new to PINE and I was hoping someone could tell me exactly how I >could accomplish the following: >I have an email address here and a different one on another campus. I >read mail both places. I would like to configure PINE at my other >address to automatically forward a copy of outgoing messages from >there to my address here. That PINE is running on a VMS system, and >the version number is 3.91 I believe. What exactly do I type between >the quotation marks to accomplish this (presently no fcc is being >used, and the null string "" is all that is there when I looked at the >configuration program). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02545; Wed, 2 Oct 96 14:51:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA13220 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:48:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub1.tc.umn.edu (mhub1.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA13212 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 14:48:44 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub1.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:48:43 -0500 Received: from zone7-14.chem.umn.edu by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:48:42 -0500 Message-Id: <32529FF7.5D2A@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 17:01:43 +0000 From: Yohaan John X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: CC in PINE X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/current/msg00019.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or not? All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . . . but to no avail. Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. Yohaan John. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16803; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:23:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA14124 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14118 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8ZaR-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: shared addressbook? Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:54:53 -0700 Message-Id: References: <01bbaa6e$9e458020$5ff8f184@sledge> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbaa6e$9e458020$5ff8f184@sledge> On 24 Sep 1996, Markus Roskothen wrote: > To who may know it, > what is the difference between shared and gobal addressbooks? I understand > the idea of these two but not how to implement shared addressbooks. > I went through the pine FAQ and the archive and there is some info about > global addressbooks. I would appreciate if someone can inform me about > shared addressbooks and how to implement them. Global addressbooks are usually shared by several users. Personal addressbooks can also be shared by several users. All you need to do is have everyone specify the same file/path name and set the file protections so that everyone has access to them. Note that Pine does not implement a full multi-user locking mechanism on addressbooks, so you could run into problems if you have several people trying to simultaneously update the same addressbook... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:24:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16642; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:24:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA05518 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA05513 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:19:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8ZaW-00038TC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "kathleen@telis.org" Subject: Re: attachment troubles Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 14:54:15 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. Am I supposed to have my own copy of Pine, rather than just logging on to their version? Or is there something in setup that I am missing? If anyone can answer this I would really appreciate it. kathleen@telis.org On 22 Sep 1996, Carly Elizabeth Hamlett wrote: > To whomever can help me, > I received an email with an attachment that I cannot read. I did as > the directions suggested and saved them as files but cannot access those > files (i.e. cannot even find them now). > If you could send me any information, I would greatly appreciate it. > > Carly Hamlett > chamL01@emory.edu > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:39:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02751; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:39:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA14458 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:34:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA14450 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:34:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8Zmm-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: NEED to bounce Date: 2 Oct 1996 21:18:53 GMT Message-Id: References: s441748@frodo.student.gu.edu.au (Becki (aka Gidget)): > Can someone please tell me if it is possible (and if so how in detailled > description- step by step) if I can automatically bounce mail from a a > particular address so I don't even ever see it in my inbox? We could tell you - but then we would have to kill you. Automatic *deletion*, however ... use a filter. procmail. Btw, your message id was entered in the draw for "longest message id". Your are welcome! Sven -- Sheesh! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11089; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:00:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA06553 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access.netaxs.com (access.netaxs.com [207.8.186.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA06548 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 15:57:52 -0700 Received: from unix3.netaxs.com (lazarus@unix3.netaxs.com [207.8.186.5]) by access.netaxs.com (8.7.6/8.6.11) with ESMTP id SAA22370; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from lazarus@localhost) by unix3.netaxs.com (8.7.6/8.7.3) id SAA10812; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:57:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Methuselah To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the info. Sometimes I look too hard for what should be the most obvious. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18012; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:11:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA15356 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA15351 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:08:41 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:13:56 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:07:36 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Methuselah Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewer-hdrs setting in .pinerc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Methuselah wrote: > Thanks for the info. Sometimes I look too hard for what should be the > most obvious. As long as you've looked...that the most important thing. Most of us have not see the forest because of the trees from time to time. However, some never open their eyes to even look for the trees. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17373; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:22:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA07128 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:20:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA07123 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:20:19 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:25:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:19:13 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: "kathleen@telis.org" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attachment troubles In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, kathleen@telis.org wrote: > In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? > When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine > mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it > asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I > am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. From your message header: Message-ID: upload-command-prefix = download-command = download-command-prefix = variables. These will be the key to your uploading and downloading the saved/exported messages to your PC. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14968; Wed, 2 Oct 96 16:38:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA16057 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.sfsu.edu (apollo.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id QAA16052 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (vallum@localhost) by apollo.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA05765 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: apollo.sfsu.edu: vallum owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 16:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: VALERIE LUM X-Sender: vallum@apollo To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bugs Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello- there is a problem with this e-mail. Whenever i type too fast on the keyboard the program jams and i have to log in all over again. I have experienced this problem at least twice while producing this letter. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18372; Wed, 2 Oct 96 17:06:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA16772 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA16763 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:03:09 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:08:25 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:02:03 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: VALERIE LUM Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: bugs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, VALERIE LUM wrote: > there is a problem with this e-mail. Whenever i type too fast on the > keyboard the program jams and i have to log in all over again. I have > experienced this problem at least twice while producing this letter. You are using pine for Solaris. My guess is that you are using it over a dial-up link. (I have to guess all of this since you are not very descriptive....if you want quality "service" you have have to give quality information. :-) ) Are you have problems in other situations? What other information can you supply? I suspect that the problem lies in your communications environment. Comm SW configuration, modem settings, etc. You should seek help from your local helpdesk staff on this sort of problem. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:53:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20952; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:53:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA10605 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA10599 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:49:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8crI-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: PICO Editor...? Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 14:00:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 1 Oct 1996, Lavender Rose, Dancin' with the Moon wrote: > Can you tell me where I can get the PICO Editor...? It comes with Pine. You can get it at ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz Just compile that, and Pico will be in there. Nathan --- Nathan Richards, aka. Sunspot on Efica MUD (http://195.92.35.130:3995/) Also known as Xoron on IRC (Undernet, DALnet, sometimes EFNet if you're lucky) Email: nathan@phish.nether.net or bm782@torfree.net WWW: http://www.naples.net/~nfn04143/Nathan/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:01:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA19587 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:59:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA19576 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 18:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8d1h-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 18:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Decoding e-mail attachs. Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 18:08:48 GMT Message-Id: <52uav0$vj@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: I have the same problem. My solution is to: 1) save the message using (E)xport (I don't bother with view first) 2) download the file to my PC 3) use StuffIt Expander for Windows to decode the file (which for me is usually a Word for Macintosh document which I then open in Word for Windows) (Send e-mail to "info@aladdinsys.com" with "winexpander" as the subject and no message text and you'll get an automated blurb on StuffIt Expander. It's FREE.) -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Mon, 30 Sep 1996 13:59:36 GMT, sberman@netcom.com (Stanley Berman) wrote: >When I receive MS mail e-mail, attachements are noted in the test of the >e-mail not shown as attachments at the head of the mail. I cannot view >the attachemtns, but invoke VIEW and save to a file, then strip out the >extraneous text. ONce the is done I use the command uudecode and the >file name, but get only an unusable hex dump. >How can I convert these attachments to either a readable ascii file, or a >word-processor format that can then be downloaded to my computer? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21693; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:23:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA20017 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:21:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bessel.nando.net (bessel.nando.net [152.52.2.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id TAA20012 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:21:16 -0700 Received: from bessel.nando.net (juliette@bessel.nando.net [152.52.2.130]) by bessel.nando.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA10942 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: juliette To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you upload something so you can attach it to mail... how do you attach a file to email? PLEASE HELP ME! :) Thank you very much.. (please respond asap?) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22349; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:46:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA11527 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA11522 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 19:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8dgr-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 19:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Teichman Subject: GUI Telnet to Pine Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:25:30 -0400 Message-Id: <3253241A.38D1@prolog.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In order to get around a firewall, I must telnet to my ISP and access pine so as to read my mail. The firewall does not let mail through. While, I could dial up the ISP, using our T1 is much quicker. Is there a Windows (Win95) program that can act as a graphical front end to pine? By this I mean, a program that telnets to a pine session and then fetches mail, and allows me to compose mail in the GUI environment? My ISP does not give me unix shell access. Thanks Rob From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:52:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22739; Wed, 2 Oct 96 20:52:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12749 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:49:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12744 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:49:38 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 11:54:58 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 11:46:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: juliette Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, juliette wrote: > How do you upload something so you can attach it to mail... how do you > attach a file to email? PLEASE HELP ME! :) > Thank you very much.. From your headers we have gleaned that you are using pine3.91. (In any cry for help you should provide *much* more information about your environment. *please*) I'd advise you to upgrade to pine3.95. With pine3.95 you will have additional capabilities. Looking in the setup/config we find: upload-command = upload-command-prefix = download-command = download-command-prefix = which will make your life easier. (IFF (meaning if-and-only-if) you readin help menus associated with these commands :-) ) As for attaching files???? What seems to be the trouble? If you put your cursor on the "Attchmnt" header and type ctrl-G (which means "Get Help") do you find the documentation insufficient to perform this task? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24473; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:00:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA22495 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:55:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA22490 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 21:55:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8fmv-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 21:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 1 Oct 1996 12:31:50 GMT Message-Id: <52r2vm$60h@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) writes: >Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: >: Hi! Expert, >: >: How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want >: to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail >: header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the >: header? Can pine do that? Thanks. >Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. Here is an example of a shell script that would also work from a ksh, sh, or bash commandline: #!/bin/sh for f in `ls -1 /export/home` ; do mailx $f < file-to-mail done This would mail the contents of file-to-mail to every user who has a homedir in /export/home, one at a time. >The best you can do is something like this. >Send the message to YOURSELF, and put the distribution list as bcc. When it >reaches all, they will see that mail was sent from you to you !! They won't >know, who else got a copy. >Later, >-Roy- >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer > Cisco Systems Inc. > "Better to understand a little, than to misunderstand a lot." >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29039; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:11:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA13836 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:05:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA13831 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8fuM-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Darius Subject: .forward filter? Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:02:11 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. or figure out another way to accomplish this task... I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded to their email address... an example of what I have tried: if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail to: darius@alliedproductions.com or, post to this newsgroup... thanks for your time....Michael Darius From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:29:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23735; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:29:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA14126 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:25:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homeroom.telis.org (homeroom.telis.org [204.71.75.151]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA14121 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:25:16 -0700 Received: from s01-pm02-downy-t.telis.org (s01-pm02-downy-t.telis.org [206.96.64.60]) by homeroom.telis.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA17183; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 22:22:06 -0700 From: Kathleen X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Consumers Advantage Subject: Re: attachment troubles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Sep 1996, kathleen@telis.org wrote: > > > In a related way, can someone help me with saving files to your own PC? > > When I log in to Telis, a menu comes up allowing me to choose Lynx or Pine > > mail. After I get my mail, and then try to save an email message, it > > asks for my file name and/or path - everything I have tried has failed; I > > am assuming the files are being saved on my ISP, Telis. > > From your message header: > > Message-ID: > That your are running pine3.91 under Solaris. (A U*IX OS). > In that case, you are correct. The "save" command will cause the message > to be saved on the ISP's machine (a SUN). > > Please go to setup/config and learn about the: > > upload-command = > upload-command-prefix = > download-command = > download-command-prefix = > > variables. These will be the key to your uploading and > downloading the saved/exported messages to your PC. > > Regards, > > Ed > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.CEd, Thanks for the reply! I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) I am setting up email and the Lynx browser for a friend of mine who is blind. He needs to keep a DOS interface for his braille reader, and wants to download his messages so he can put them into his WordPerfect. I have tried downloading PINE and switching to it after I use the comm program to dial up and connect, but that didn't work either. I really appreciate any help you can give me about this (I also tried the PINE mail newsgroup). Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10878; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:42:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA23255 for pine-info-out; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:40:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23250 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 1996 22:40:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8gUv-00038BC; Wed, 2 Oct 96 22:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ishslib@mozcom.com (Ms. Garces) Subject: help Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 20:53:29 GMT Message-Id: <52nnao$1f8@mozcom3.mozcom.com> i have a little problem infront of me... im currently handling 5 networked units... and all connected to the internet and is running under linux.... the problem is that... when i use pine through telnet in my two units a certain error message appear..... "your terminal, of ansi is lacking functions needed to run pine.... but with the other 3 its ok.... what will i do... i really need to solve this out asap.... coz my boss will be arriving soon.... thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11120; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:37:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15893 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:35:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15888 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:35:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8iFr-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 00:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@bali.seg.wj.com (Alan Strassberg) Subject: Re: Looking for best IMAP client Date: 2 Oct 1996 21:04:20 -0700 Message-Id: <52ve04$e0j@bali.seg.wj.com> References: A free IMAP4 client is available from Sun: http://www.sun.com/solstice/Networking-products/sims/index.html Runs on: Solaris (and Solaris x86) Windows 3.1 / Win95 / Win NT alan -- alan@wj.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:04:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24337; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:04:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA25149 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:59:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA25144 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:59:25 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA05479; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:59:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:59:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dara Ghahremani Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Mac? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" As far as I recall... Originally there were no plans to do so. However people kept asking and the last I saw (quite a time back) was that it _may_ happen one day but the stumbling blocks were staff time and finance. I haven't heard anything different; I don't think there's any active development going on in this area. That said, there's a very good IMAP mail client called "Mail Drop" for the Apple Macintosh. It's available free from: ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop/ Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 28 Sep 1996, Dara Ghahremani wrote: > > > Are there any plans to make Pine for Macintosh? > > I'm sure this is a common question, though, I haven't seen any info about > this anywhere. > > Thanks, Dara From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23481; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:05:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25194 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:03:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA25188 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:03:48 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:58:54 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06917; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails In-Reply-To: <52r2vm$60h@news.eecs.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The current (3.95) version of Pine *does* accept redirected input. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have > used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line > or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept > redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14194; Thu, 3 Oct 96 01:20:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25388 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA25383 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 01:18:47 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:13:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11631; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:18:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:18:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Yohaan John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: <32529FF7.5D2A@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I presume you're being asked whether or not you want a copy when you are Replying to a message rather than when you start a new one? If so, Pine is asking you this because it doesn't recognise your e-mail address in amongst the addresses listed in the To: and Cc: fields. For example, my e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk". However a number of other addresses also get to me. Pine, however, only knows about the first one. So if one of my alternate addresses is used it doesn't recognise it as being for me (thinking it is someone else instead it offers me the choice of replying to it). To cure the problem you have to teach Pine what other addresses mail for you might arrice as. You do this in the Setup Configuration screen by listing the alternative addresses as the value for the "alt-addresses" variable. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an > emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or > not? > > All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I > don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my > response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . > . . but to no avail. > > Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. > > Yohaan John. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20096; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:18:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA26034 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26029 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:15:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8jr8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 20:51:45 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 1 Oct 1996, Consumers Advantage wrote: > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter > PINE and am in v3.94. > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word > processor. If your Shell account is on UNIX, try entering "sz filename" at the UNIX prompt --- this command should start the transfer of the file from the Shell account to your computer. Hope this helps. J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:37:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22069; Thu, 3 Oct 96 02:37:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA26308 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:35:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA26297 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 02:35:03 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:40:21 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:31:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Kathleen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Consumers Advantage Subject: Re: attachment troubles In-Reply-To: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, > probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command > values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the > current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message > saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a > UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't > find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) Well, your situation is best handled by your local helpdesk. I say this since we are not aware of your environment. We don't know what comm SW you are using and we don't know what protocol you are using. (xmodem, zmodem, kermit, etc) Sorry to leave you hanging in the wind....but if you describe you enivrionment fully there are plenty of folks on this group with experience in this area. (Much more so than me...) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:08:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27826; Thu, 3 Oct 96 04:08:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA27503 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:06:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA27497 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 04:06:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8lWI-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 04:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcj6054@tam2000.tamu.edu (Theodore Calest III Johnson) Subject: Distribution Lists Date: 28 Sep 1996 06:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu> Howdy, Could anyone tell me how to do a distribution list in Pine? Thanx. Theo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09131; Thu, 3 Oct 96 05:37:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA19493 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:28:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19488 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:28:45 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Oct 96 20:33:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:27:39 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Theodore Calest III Johnson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: <52ihd1$fpv@news.tamu.edu> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Sep 1996, Theodore Calest III Johnson wrote: > Could anyone tell me how to do a distribution list in Pine? Thanx. Yes, pine can tell you. You need to do "Information Reasearch". From the m(ain) menu go to the a(ddressbook). Whey you get there type ?(help). (Humm....wonder what that does????) Do a bit of reading paying special attention to the section labeled "Distribution Lists". Sound familiar? Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28761; Thu, 3 Oct 96 05:57:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA28805 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:54:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmi.edu (nova.gmi.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA28800 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 05:54:35 -0700 Received: by gmi.edu (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11538; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:54:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Stewart Ellis" X-Sender: ellis@nova To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute - Flint MI Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 09:03:32 +0100 (BST) > From: Mike Brudenell > To: "R. Stewart Ellis" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails > > The current (3.95) version of Pine *does* accept redirected input. I really do want to upgrade my site to the latest, and this makes me want to even more, but I get zero complaints/questions about 3.91, and I know I am going to have questions when I do, and I do not have time to deal with them right now. Various things such as having to add patches that have not been folded back into the base release to work around streams problems also make me nervous. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 1 Oct 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > What mailers do you know of? Every other UNIX mailer I know of and have > > used (mail, mailx, Mail, elm) can do this by using it from the command line > > or a shell script with redirected input. Since pine does not accept > > redirected input (its main shortcoming IMHO), it cannot. > > > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29610; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:10:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA29726 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:06:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29721 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8oK4-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven King" Subject: Re: HOW DO I GET OLD NEWSGROUP POSTS! Date: 3 Oct 1996 13:08:35 GMT Message-Id: <530dsj$sms@pshrink.chi.il.us> References: <52ul7h$gm8@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu> Evan P. Herberg wrote: >The editor may be >unfamiliar to you, as it won't be pico (the editor on trn for me is JOVE), >but shouldn't be too difficult to learn. trn respects the EDITOR environment variable, so you can set your editor to be anything you want. Mine is set to "pico", for whatever reason... :-) -- ------------------------------------------ "This paperclip will serve as an antenna, grabbing neutrinos from the cosmos and providing ignition for this craft." "Astonishing, Brain! Um, will it also roast marshmallows?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30188; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:14:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA20855 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:11:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA20849 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:11:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8oQr-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmonniau@ens-lyon.fr (David Monniaux) Subject: ISO-8859-1 Date: 3 Oct 1996 14:01:02 GMT Message-Id: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> Hello, I am on a Unix (Sun/Solaris) system, running X and CDE, if that matters. I like Pine, but it has some problem : it seems to believe I've got an US_ASCII display : it sometimes complains about displaying ISO-8859-1 text on such a display. More over, it refuses accentuated characters typed on the keyboard. This looks abnormal : my others applications, even the shells, accept accentuated characters under ISO-8859-1. There's probably some misconfiguration somewhere, but I can't find where !? -- David Monniaux, informatique, Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon (computer science student) e-mail: dmonniau@ens-lyon.fr http://www.ens-lyon.fr/~dmonniau From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:59:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30105; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:59:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA00723 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA00717 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pA0-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pawel Misiak Subject: how can I read mail of another userid with pine? Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 15:50:07 +0200 Message-Id: <3253C48F.41C6@info.wcss.wroc.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have just installed pine 3.95 under AIX 4.1.4. Works fine. In some text I have read on the possibility of using Pine to read mail on another accounts than that I have started the program. How can I get the mailbox on onother accounts? -- Pawel Misiak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30707; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:59:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA21662 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA21657 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 07:56:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pAl-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 07:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: error posting message? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 11:03:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Robert Frayer wrote: > When I try to send a reply to a message and include the original message > in the reply I am given "error posting message:441 article not posted > more included text than new". I'm not sure exactly what this means and > what to do about it. It means that the mail or news processing software at your site is enforcing a restriction which not all sites enforce. (Mine, for example, does not.) That's why not everybody sees this error message. What you did, in all probability, is respond to an email or newsgroup message. When you replied, Pine "quoted" each line of the original message with a less-than (>) sign to designate the original material. (There are ways of changing this quoting symbol, incidentally.) Then you added your reply. However, the amount of your reply was less than the amount of the original text. Some mail agents (or newsgroup posting agents, especially) do not permit this and refuse your new message with the error indication you received above. You must redo things so that the amount of new material you add is greater than the amount of quoted original material you are responding to. (I am unsure whether the criterion is line count or total character count.) Even though it seems a little unfair, because some people are subject to this restriction and some are not (depends on site policy), it was instituted for a purpose. How many times have we seen followup postings on newsgroups which quote a 100-line original post in its entirety only to add a 3-line reply at the very bottom? It can be very aggravating. This restriction which you have run into forbids that kind of nonsense. It is not a restriction of Pine but of the software which processes the mail or news once Pine has released it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14866; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:08:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA00894 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:06:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA00889 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:06:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8pKm-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: (3.95 on AIX) iso-8559 8-bit national characters in compose Date: 3 Oct 1996 12:58:50 GMT Message-Id: <530daa$f94@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> I find that I can happily enter national characters from pico 2.1 or 2.9 using e.g. ALT-223 = ß However, when using compose from pine 3.95 it won't let me. (I get "unknown command"). I've looked through the setup options, and the only thing I noticed vaguely relevant (enable 8-bit esmpt transaction) didn't help. I thought pine used pico as its composer editor, so I find the difference strange. Does pine call the external version of pico, or is the equivalent pico code built into the pine module? (I'm sure its the latter, so having an older version of pico as default while using pine 3.95 should not be the problem, or could it be?) Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:11:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31762; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA21963 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:09:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eli.wariat.org (eli.wariat.org [204.248.49.62]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA21946 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:08:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (rcp@localhost) by eli.wariat.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA00815 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:16 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Ronnie C Phillips To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug in address book Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I tried to add a new address, I received a message, "Address Book Read-only." Also, when I tried to "take" an address, I received message, "No writable address book." I had not experienced these problems until the latest Pine update. Can someone help? Ron Phillips From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:49:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32271; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:49:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22921 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:41:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22912 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 08:41:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8psX-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 08:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: default editor Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 01:47:20 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Clary Harridge wrote: > Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? > > I have tried combinations of > > # enable-alternate-editor-cmd > enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > editor=/usr/local/bin/jove > > in my .pinerc without success. > > I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? Setting *both* of the above options works for me ... --- J. Tse From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:09:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24886; Thu, 3 Oct 96 10:09:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA04554 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:05:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub1.tc.umn.edu (mhub1.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA04549 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 10:05:43 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub1.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:03:46 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:03:46 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:03:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Yohaan John To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you so much Mike for addressing my problem. I think you hit the nail on the head. The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? personal-name = user-domain = smtp-server = nntp-server = inbox-path = folder-collections = news-collections = default-fcc = sent-mail postponed-folder = read-message-folder = signature-file = .sig global-address-book = address-book = feature-list = Set Feature Name --- ---------------------- [ ] assume-slow-link [X] auto-move-read-msgs [X] auto-open-next-unread [ ] compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs [ ] compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm [X] delete-skips-deleted [ ] enable-aggregate-command-set [ ] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly [X] enable-bounce-cmd [X] enable-flag-cmd [ ] enable-full-header-cmd [ ] enable-incoming-folders [X] enable-jump-shortcut [X] enable-mail-check-cue [X] enable-suspend [X] enable-tab-completion [X] enable-unix-pipe-cmd [ ] expanded-view-of-addressbooks [ ] expanded-view-of-folders [ ] expunge-without-confirm [ ] include-attachments-in-reply [ ] include-header-in-reply [ ] include-text-in-reply [ ] news-approximates-new-status [ ] news-post-without-validation [ ] news-read-in-newsrc-order [X] preserve-start-stop-characters [ ] quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file [X] quit-without-confirm [ ] save-will-quote-leading-froms [ ] save-will-not-delete [X] save-will-advance [ ] select-without-confirm [X] show-selected-in-boldface [X] signature-at-bottom [ ] use-current-dir initial-keystroke-list = default-composer-hdrs = customized-hdrs = saved-msg-name-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) by-sender ( ) by-from ( ) by-recipient ( ) last-folder-used (*) default-folder fcc-name-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) by-recipient ( ) last-fcc-used (*) default-fcc sort-key = Set Sort Options --- ---------------------- ( ) Date (*) Arrival ( ) From ( ) Subject ( ) OrderedSubj ( ) Reverse Date ( ) Reverse Arrival ( ) Reverse From ( ) Reverse Subject ( ) Reverse OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) fullname-with-lists-last ( ) fullname ( ) nickname-with-lists-last (*) nickname ( ) dont-sort character-set = editor = image-viewer = use-only-domain-name = No On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > I presume you're being asked whether or not you want a copy when you are > Replying to a message rather than when you start a new one? > > If so, Pine is asking you this because it doesn't recognise your e-mail > address in amongst the addresses listed in the To: and Cc: fields. > > For example, my e-mail address is "pmb1@york.ac.uk". However a number of > other addresses also get to me. Pine, however, only knows about the first > one. So if one of my alternate addresses is used it doesn't recognise it > as being for me (thinking it is someone else instead it offers me the > choice of replying to it). > > To cure the problem you have to teach Pine what other addresses mail for > you might arrice as. You do this in the Setup Configuration screen by > listing the alternative addresses as the value for the "alt-addresses" > variable. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > > > In using PINE, how do I configure it such that when I respond to an > > emailing, it does not ask me whether I want to be a sent a copy or > > not? > > > > All the mail I send is being collected under "sent-mail", and so I > > don't want it to always ask me whether I wish to receive a copy of my > > response or not. I have tried playing around with reconfiguring it . > > . . but to no avail. > > > > Thanks a lot. Looking forward to your response. > > > > Yohaan John. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03603; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:30:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA29794 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:26:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA29789 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 12:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8tM9-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 12:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maddox Subject: proper use of fcc Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 07:54:19 -0500 Message-Id: <325265FB.5146@mayo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am new to PINE and I was hoping someone could tell me exactly how I could accomplish the following: I have an email address here and a different one on another campus. I read mail both places. I would like to configure PINE at my other address to automatically forward a copy of outgoing messages from there to my address here. That PINE is running on a VMS system, and the version number is 3.91 I believe. What exactly do I type between the quotation marks to accomplish this (presently no fcc is being used, and the null string "" is all that is there when I looked at the configuration program). Thanks very much for the help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:26:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07216; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:26:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10359 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sweden.it.earthlink.net (sweden-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.50]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA10354 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:16 -0700 Received: from jmellon.earthlink.net (Cust69.Max7.Miami.FL.MS.UU.NET [153.34.122.69]) by sweden.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA25348 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:23:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <32542052.7894@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 03 Oct 1996 16:21:38 -0400 From: John Mellon X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: UNIX to PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. John Mellon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27761; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:29:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10491 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:27:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA10485 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:27:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8uH0-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 13:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Rohn Wood" Subject: Emulation Problems Pine 3.93, 3.95 Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:52:16 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb14b$bc84bd60$1b0e8396@ufo.umt.edu> We are having a considerable number of problems with Pine 3.93 and 3.95 on DEC Unix 4.0 for users coming in on LAT lines. SInce we upgraded to Pine 3.95, dial-up users (who come across LAT) and strainght LAT users have reported that immediately after the main PNE menu appears on the screen, their systems lock up and they have to basically crash out to regain control of their PCs. This of course leaves hung sessions on our UNIX box. Is this PINE 3.93/3.94 problme wide-spread? Any ideas on the cause? A fix? Thanks.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08598; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:02:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA11439 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from becker2.u.washington.edu (becker2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.68]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id NAA11434 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (umar1@localhost) by becker2.u.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA31611 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 13:59:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Umar Cheema To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how to install pico? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How I can install pico on a server which previously had vi editor ? Also can I install emacs too ? Thanks, Umar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:50:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09287; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:50:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA04411 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:47:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA04406 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:47:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8vWk-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 14:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: Re: (3.95 on AIX) iso-8559 8-bit national characters in compose Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:09:16 GMT Message-Id: <53130s$jlu@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> References: <530daa$f94@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> Mike Ellwood (mwe@unixfe.cc.rl.ac.uk) wrote: : I find that I can happily enter national : characters from pico 2.1 or 2.9 using : e.g. ALT-223 = ß : However, when using compose from pine 3.95 : it won't let me. (I get "unknown command"). : I've looked through the setup options, and : the only thing I noticed vaguely relevant : (enable 8-bit esmpt transaction) didn't help. : I thought pine used pico as its composer editor, : so I find the difference strange. Does pine : call the external version of pico, or is the : equivalent pico code built into the pine module? : (I'm sure its the latter, so having an older version : of pico as default while using pine 3.95 should not : be the problem, or could it be?) : Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk (oops, sorry, that should have been iso-8859). I found the answer, indirectly, from an earlier posting when I was trawling through this newsgroup. Sorry I don't have the name of the person who gave it. Thanks to him/her anonymously: Go into "Setup", Choose "Config" Look for "Character-set" Add new value: iso-8859-1 and voilà! I believe this also answers David Monniau's question, which was more or less the same. Merci à tous! Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08699; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:05:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA13221 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA13216 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8von-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: HOW DO I GET OLD NEWSGROUP POSTS! Date: 3 Oct 1996 14:25:43 GMT Message-Id: <530id7$odq@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <52ul7h$gm8@agassiz.cas.und.nodak.edu> herberg@aero.und.nodak.edu (Evan P. Herberg) writes: >In article , >Hopeless Romantic (Karent Urena) wrote: >> >>HELP! >> Can someone please tell me how I can get old messages from a >>newsgroup? I have eXpunged many of them but there seems to be follow-ups >>to messages I haven't seen. HELP! >> >>Thanks in advance! >> >>Karent > If you want the best way to follow threads on newsgroups and be able >to read old posts - in the order they are meant to be read in -- then use >TRN for news-reading. If you are using UNIX, and I assume from an 'edu' >environment that you are, then you should have access to trn. It's >article organization with a "tree" diagram to show you exactly the order >that follow-ups and replies were posted as well as having access to old >articles in the thread simply by moving up the "tree" make it a more >efficient and valuable newsgroup browser than Pine. The editor may be This does not answer the question: old articles are available at http://www.dejanews.com/ >unfamiliar to you, as it won't be pico (the editor on trn for me is JOVE), >but shouldn't be too difficult to learn. Believe me, although Pine's E-Mail At many edu sites the default editor is vi (YUCHH!). Most reasonable software however checks the EDITOR environment variable. Set that variable to the editor of your choice and most real newsreaders will honor it. >capabilities are arguably better than elm, mail, or other UNIX mailers, for >newsgroups it comes up way short in comparison to the other UNIX news >readers -- as you'll see upon starting trn. No argument there! But at many sites the person who maintains newsreaders does not care about true threading (e.g. me), and does not have time to maintain all the possible newsreaders. At my site I only support nn (no threads, but my newsreader of choice) and tin (threads, but a lot of user interface deficiencies IMHO). >---------------------------- >Evan P. Herberg | >E-Mail: herberg@cs.und.edu | >---------------------------- >-- >---------------------------- >Evan P. Herberg | >E-Mail: herberg@cs.und.edu | >---------------------------- -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10789; Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:00:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA06469 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:57:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA06464 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 15:57:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8wcj-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 15:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: patmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick M. McMillin) Subject: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: 2 Oct 1996 15:44:47 GMT Message-Id: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> How do I configure my pine to go directly to inbox upon starting the porgram ? |) / /| Patrick M. McMillin / |__ The University of Texas at Austin ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu \_|_/ J From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11648; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:00:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA16174 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:52:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA16165 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:52:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v8xUx-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 16:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Randall S. Winchester" Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 16:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> On 23 Sep 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: : Mark Crispin writes: : : >On 19 Sep 1996, Tony Fitzgerald wrote: : >> The problem that we are observing appears to happen to only one specific : >> account but has happened at least twice in the past month. The account : >> appears to get a pine session into a hung state (presumably some sort of : >> kernel block because a kill -9 will not get rid of the process.) This : >> occurs with PINE3.95 running under Solaris 2.5. Once this account gets : >> into the hung state, subsequent login attempts also hang (/bin/mail -E : >> is run during login to check for new mail and that process also hangs : >> and can not be killed.) At this time, the account has two immortal pine : >> processes and about a dozen /bin/mail processes and it seems only a : >> system re-boot will solve the problem.) : : : >By any chance, are any of these mail files accessed via NFS? If so, you : >may be bit by a well-known bug with the fcntl() locking call; when locking : >over NFS, it invokes a pair of daemons called statd and lockd that are : >very fragile. : : >Supposedly, the code in 3.95 disables fcntl() locking if NFS is involved, : >but Solaris 2.5 may have cleverly broken the test that it used for NFS. Wow it would be nice if this was better documented. /* ftinode should be -1 if NFS */ return ((!fstat (fd,&sbuf) && !ustat (sbuf.st_dev,&usbuf) && !++usbuf.f_tinode) || ((int) mail_parameters (NIL,GET_DISABLEFCNTLLOCK,NIL))) ? NIL : fcntl (fd,(operation & LOCK_NB) ? F_SETLK : F_SETLKW,&fl); From "man ustat": BUGS The NFS revision 2 protocol does not permit the number of free files to be provided to the client; thus, when ustat() is done on an NFS file system, f_tinode is always -1. Since Solaris2.5 uses NFS V3 when it can, this test is nolonger valid. However it concerns me that this locking is being ignored. Most vendors have patches avaliable to fix some of the lockd/statd problems. The vendor mailers (i.e. mailx) do not ignore these locks. Blind trust... Randall : : I am not a network expert, but in the past you have failed to take account : of some of the special features of the Solaris environment (old header : include kluges ~pine 3.91). With Solaris 2.5, Sun has wisely or unwisely : gone back to including support for some older BSD interfaces (I think they : should have left them out). Could any of those be fooling the tests you are : making for fcntl()? : : It might be helpful if the original poster has access to a Solaris 2.4 : machine to config and compile pine on that and see if the binary gives the : same problems as his Sol 2.5 binary. : : >-- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" : : >DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" : >Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. : : : -- : R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ : Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ : Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / : Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / : : From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13340; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:07:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA16396 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:01:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA16391 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:01:16 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp4.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp4.UU.NET [192.48.96.35]) id QQbjwy07051; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp4.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:01:14 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA844386353 Thu, 03 Oct 96 16:45:53 Date: Thu, 03 Oct 96 16:45:53 Message-Id: <9609038443.AA844386353@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Compiling Pine for AIX 4.1 I'm having problems getting a successful compilation of Pine on an IBM RS/6000 under AIX v4.1. Some of the compile statements give the following kind of output: cc -g -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -DNFSKLUDGE -c smtp.c "smtp.c", line 170.9: 1506-068 (W) Operation between types "long(*)(unsigned ch. "smtp.c", line 298.27: 1506-068 (W) Operation between types "void(*)(unsigned c. cc -g -Dunix=1 -D_BSD -DNFSKLUDGE -c nntp.c cc -c -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da41 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE osdep.c "osdep.c", line 2082.22: 1506-280 (W) Function argument assignment between type. cc -c -D_ALL_SOURCE -Da41 -DJOB_CONTROL -DPOSIX -DMOUSE pico.c cc -Dconst= -DA41 -DSYSTYPE=\"A41\" -DMOUSE -c help.c "os.h", line 61.25: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. "os.h", line 71.34: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. "os.h", line 220.27: 1506-342 (W) "/*" detected in comment. ... and so on. What's going on here? If I un-tar the Pine 3.95 file and compile it on an AIX 3.2.5 machine we've got, it installs just fine. Am I missing something simple? Is it the environment or the "C" compiler that's having problems? Any clues would be most appreciated. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13635; Thu, 3 Oct 96 17:32:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08881 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:28:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from barney.gonzaga.edu (barney.gonzaga.edu [147.222.2.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id RAA08874 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:28:11 -0700 Received: by barney.gonzaga.edu (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA092078377; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 17:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dave Perry To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Forwarding mail? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a grad student at Gonzaga University in Spokane WA. and have two email accounts. One is on the university server and the other is with a commercial internet provider. The commercial one is GUI where the university one is pine. How can I forward my mail from the university mail account to the commercial server? thanks, D. perry From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 21:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15548; Thu, 3 Oct 96 21:01:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12540 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:57:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12535 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:57:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v91Md-00038TC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine hangs (was Re: Version 3.95 Buggy?) Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:54:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <51jiob$1jm@news.eecs.umich.edu> <51re9h$gnb@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> <526dg0$hfs@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Randall S. Winchester wrote: > Wow it would be nice if this was better documented. I would have appreciated that too. > From "man ustat": > > BUGS > The NFS revision 2 protocol does not permit the number of > free files to be provided to the client; thus, when ustat() > is done on an NFS file system, f_tinode is always -1. Amazing. It actually appears in someone's man page. I had to determine it by experimentation and reading kernel source code. > Since Solaris2.5 uses NFS V3 when it can, this test is nolonger valid. I heard that from SUN. How SUN justifies returning "number of inodes" over a protocol that is supposed to be OS-independent is beyond me. However, SUN also claims that all the NFS locking bugs are fixed in Solaris 2.5, so it doesn't matter that my test doesn't work (put another way, the test does exactly the right thing, working only on systems where NFS is broken). That's SUN's claim, anyway. I don't really believe it. The entire design of lockd/statd is bogus, and I doubt that it can ever be made to work. > However it concerns me that this locking is being ignored. Most vendors have > patches avaliable to fix some of the lockd/statd problems. The vendor > mailers (i.e. mailx) do not ignore these locks. Blind trust... The lock in question is not one that mailx would use. This lock is the private lock in the c-client library (called by Pine and imapd) that guards against multiple Pines/imapds/etc. getting read/write access to the same file at any one time. As long as you use UNIX mbox format, it doesn't matter that much if it fails. The worst that will happen is that if you run more than one Pine on the same mailbox, one of the Pines will eventually cause the other to get an ACCESS ERROR. If you use certain other formats (e.g. tenex format), it is a problem, since these formats use random access and depend upon locking to work. But we've always said, "don't use tenex format over NFS". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16446; Thu, 3 Oct 96 22:31:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA21949 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:28:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA21944 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 22:28:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v92jo-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 22:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: IMAP server doesn't respond Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:34:29 GMT Message-Id: <5314g5$jrl@hermes.acs.unt.edu> I have been using PC-Pine at home for over a year without problems. I dial up to my school account and everything works fine. At my work, we finally got a T1 line and I tried to access my mail box using PC-Pine 3.95 for Win95 (the same version as at home) but I never get a response from the IMAP server. I can ping it just fine. I can also use Netscape, FTP and telnet just fine. I know I can use telnet to acces my account but I like PC-Pine better and would like to use it. Please help. -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:27:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10785; Thu, 3 Oct 96 23:27:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA14587 for pine-info-out; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA14582 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:23:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v93aC-00038BC; Thu, 3 Oct 96 23:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chang s l Subject: V3.95 not always repaint Date: Wed, 02 Oct 1996 08:00:52 -0400 Message-Id: <32525974.6678@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to report a bug/problem. A user of pine3.95 reported that the screen didn't repaint when he tried to compose a new message after being in the INBOX index screen and answering "no" to "Continue postponed composition". The user ended up with the "index" still on the screen and the mail headers were missing. Below are sequences that the user typed. The user has a postponed new message and several messages in INBOX, all were read. pine i <- put in INBOX at last message p <- back's up one c <- prompts for create n <- answer no to using postponed Screen will be messed up. The user is running DECterm on a DEC3000 running OSF/1 Version 2.1. He telneted to an AIX 4.1.4 to use pine3.95. ================================================ Shui Chang Phone: (423) 574-8418 LMER, MS6394 Fax: (423) 574-8922 Bldg 6026-D, Rm 8 Oak Ridge, TN 37831-6394 E-mail: sui@ornl.gov From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13300; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:18:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15254 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:16:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15249 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:16:28 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 4 Oct 96 15:21:47 +0800 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 15:13:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Dave Perry Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Forwarding mail? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Dave Perry wrote: > I am a grad student at Gonzaga University in Spokane WA. and have two > email accounts. One is on the university server and the other is with a > commercial internet provider. The commercial one is GUI where the > university one is pine. How can I forward my mail from the university > mail account to the commercial server? Hummm......abandon pine??? Maybe you should ask your commercial provider how to do it? :-) :-) But if you really want to do it then you just have to add a .forward file to your university account. The contents of the file are your address on the commercial side. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17921; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:45:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA23691 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA23686 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v94pZ-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adm_oaep@mozart.inet.co.th (Wasu Srisanan) Subject: cmsg cancel <52km24$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Control: cancel <52km24$jbd@chopin.inet.co.th> Date: 3 Oct 1996 19:45:38 GMT Message-Id: <531552$30m@chopin.inet.co.th> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19184; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:45:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA15582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA15577 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 00:43:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v94qd-00038UC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 00:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alexander S. Urakov" Subject: Please, help me with 8bit subjects in Pine. Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 15:29:07 +0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi guys. I have a big trouble. My Pine-3.95 on RH linux (rembrandt) don't want to send message Subject as 8bit plain text and does MIME encoding of Subject before sending. When I do not set character-set=3D it does not allow me t= o type Russian characters at all in Subject field (says Unknown command). I= f I set character-set to KOI8-R pine sends subject like this: [KOI8-R] Test... ... ... If I use russian characters in subject field pine converts them to MIME encoded string and I can read this subject only on the same version of Pine. Most users in our country use mail packages which allow to display only 8bit plain text in Subject and message body. So how can I force Pine to send Subject in 8bit plain text format?? And without -- [KOI8-R] at=20 begin of line?? Please, reply to my E-mail address: alex@gil.kazan.su Thank you in advance. #! rnews 0 Path: fussy.comtat.kazan.su!usenet From: vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su (Vasily N. Hakimov) Newsgroups: relcom.fido.ru.hacker Subject: Help! =F2=C1=DA=D7=C1=CC=C9=D4=D8 .exe! Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 11:06:20 GMT Organization: TEB Lines: 12 Message-ID: <52gdsg$8cb@fussy.comtat.kazan.su> Reply-To: vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.135.141.101 X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Hi!! =F0=CF=CD=CF=C7=C9=D4=C5! =E5=D3=D4=D8 .exe =CE=C1 Clipper,=20 =C1 =C9=D3=C8=CF=C4=CE=C9=CB=C9 =D0=D2=CF=D0=C1=CC=C9 (=F7=C9=CE=D4 =D0=CF= =CC=C5=D4=C5=CC ;( ) =EE=C5=D4 =CC=C9 =CE=C5=DE=D4=CF =D0=CF=C4=CF=C2=CE=CF=C5 ReFox,=20 =CE=CF =C4=CC=D1 Clipper. =F0=D2=C9=DB=CC=C9=D4=C5, psl =CE=C1 vasily@bravo.ecocom.kazan.su =E2=D5=C4=D5 =CF=DE=C5=CE=D8 =C2=CC=C1=C7=CF=C4=C1=D2=C5=CE Vasily From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:25:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19408; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:25:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA24202 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:23:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24197 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:23:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v95Uy-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:20 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Printing from Pine 3.93 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 1996 13:56:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199609221425.QAA17843@lie.matstat.unit.no> On Sun, 22 Sep 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: Sorry, I meant to say version 3.94. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s - MIDI, Humor, KI2, etc. } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19523; Fri, 4 Oct 96 01:38:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA16287 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id BAA16282 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 01:36:26 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:31:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09475; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:36:13 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:36:13 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Yohaan John Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not > think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At > least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know > what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? Yes ... upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10354; Fri, 4 Oct 96 02:41:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA17064 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA17059 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 02:38:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v96eS-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 02:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: PINE piping into Zmodem Date: 27 Sep 1996 13:27:31 GMT Message-Id: <52gko3$2m7@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Bill Gostin writes: >I'm reading a msg in a newsgroup. I wish to download it using Zmodem. >Is there a way to pipe it into rz/sz? >(I currently have to save it into a file, exit PINE, download it, re-enter >PINE. Of course I lose my place where I was last reading.) It sounds like you are running on a UNIX box. If you are using the right shell (ksh, bash, tcsh zsh), then UNIX has the ability to pause the current job, usually with a ^Z. This has to be turned on in pine, either in the system-wide pine.conf or in the users own setup. When you get finished at the UNIX prompt with whatever other jobs you are doing, you can type 'fg' to get back to the background job. If you forget the background job, or if you have more than one, then you can see what jobs are in the bg by typing 'jobs'. You can fg any job in the list by typing 'fg %n' where n is the integer number returned by 'jobs'. Back to the original Q, I am not sure recent versions of rzsz will accept redirected input as the author CAF began altering the code in about 1988-9 to prevent that kind of usage. If the text is onscreen, most terminal programs have a logging ability. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09252; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:16:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA26578 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:13:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26573 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:13:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v987v-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Pine's Export command (Re: Select(Cur)) Date: 27 Sep 1996 09:53:54 -0400 Message-Id: <52gm9i$ka9@net161-61.student.yale.edu> References: Holger Lillqvist wrote: : By the way, testing this select/apply function I found a nice thing: if : you select all messages in a folder and then export them to a file, in : that process automatically: : a. all unnecessary headers are weeded out (saves much space) : b. all Quoted-Printable codes are decoded (a fine thing in 8-bit areas, : especially as Pine's reply -function generates QP-code :-(. Thanks a lot for this tip. I found that in this process(you don't have to choose all messages in the folder), Pine also applies 'display filter' and saves message(s) in local code(code set converted by display filter), which is very nice for Korean(and possiblely Japanese and Chinese as well) mail which uses different charset/encoding(7bit ISO-2022-KR) from local charset(8bit EUC-KR=KSC 5601)(For details, see RFC 1557). Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20206; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:31:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA18459 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA18454 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:28:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v98Lq-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan Richards Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:07:12 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> On 2 Oct 1996, Patrick M. McMillin wrote: > How do I configure my pine to go directly to > inbox upon starting the porgram ? Setup, Configure, initial-keystroke-list, add, i From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21068; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:41:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA26856 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:38:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA26851 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 04:38:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v98Wz-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 04:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Author's name when posting to newsgroups Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 10:02:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I get the author's name to show up in the listing of names and posts when posting with pine. If I post to a newsgroup the Author looks like this: To: comp.mail.pine. I couldn't find an option to do this. If anyone knows how to do this please me know. TIA. -- Reginald N Patton MDT, Inc. rnp@mdtsoft.com "Time is an excellent teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's pupils." --Hector Berlioz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21412; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:43:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA19300 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:38:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA19295 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 05:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99Qh-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Beckman Subject: Connections to IMAP server using PINE Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:01:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? Please e-mail responses. Peter -- Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:06:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13853; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:06:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA19586 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA19577 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99r2-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: Undelete??? Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1996 14:19:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Sun, 29 Sep 1996, Colleen Bridge wrote: > Is it possible to undelete files in pine?? I deleted all of my files by > mistake (long story) and want them back, some are very important to me > (longer story) :) If you have "snapshot" installed on your system, you can always recover past files by going to the directory : $HOME/.snapshot/ ... As a last resort, try to persuade your system administrator to recover the lost files for you ... Hope this helps. :-) J. Tse ---------------------------------------------------------------- J. Tse Internet E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ---------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA27787 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:04:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA27782 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:03:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v99qH-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 05:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Cross Subject: How do I delete a posting to a newsgroup? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:53:25 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a shell account and using pine 3.93. I would like to know how to delete a posting that i have posted to a forsale newsgroup? I have seen this done a couple of times, But i forgot how to do this. It has something to do with Control: in the subject header as I recall. Thank You. Secross@whidbey.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:37:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19440; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:37:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA28171 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28166 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9AI7-00038XC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ian G. Clark ... *Sparks*" Subject: a problem and a question on 3.95 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 13:55:27 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , I am using 3.95 on a sun box, and i have my inbox on a remote machine. occasionally when i login the status line which asks me for my inbox user name and password doesnt repaint the screen properly and leaves some of the status line blank. The question i have is, is it possible at the beginning of a new month for pine to auto prune folders and auto move the old ones so nothing is lost, and so that i dont have to go through with pine saying delete this to save disk space? Cheers Ian ps please reply by email as well. Ian G. Clark BSc.(ENG) AMIEE : *Sparks*. Electronic Eng., Kings College London. My comments,not KCL's. Mensa:61150 <>< *I've found the truth! How about you?* igclark@iee.org, {ian.clark@, i.g.clark@, ian@orion.eee., ianc@dcs.}kcl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:37:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12550; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:37:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA19967 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA19962 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:34:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9AIX-00038UC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 06:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bg283@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Tadeusz Szocik) Subject: PINE please!!!! Date: 3 Oct 1996 04:14:31 GMT Message-Id: <52vej7$aac@freenet-news.carleton.ca> How about replacing the current mail client with PINE? PLEASE?!!!!!!!!!! I just tried to upload a file using MIME and needless to say it fell over. There can't be any reason not to have PINE, can there? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 07:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13281; Fri, 4 Oct 96 07:02:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA20280 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.88]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id GAA20275 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 06:57:32 -0700 Received: (from rgeater@localhost) by sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca (8.7.6/8.6.11) id JAA17235; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:57:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 09:57:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Geater X-Sender: rgeater@sunspot.ccs.yorku.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Printing with no FPU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. Just a quick question about running pine on a MAC network. Printing from pine works fine from the PowerMacs and the Mac IIci(s) but trying to print from the Mac IIsi(s) causes a 'bomb' [error message: no FPU]. Does the new version of pine require a FPU and if so, how can I get around this problem without installing a FPU (emulated or otherwise). thanks, rick... <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < > < Rick Geater - Computer Services > < York University - Faculty of Environmental Studies > < North York, Ontario, M3J 1P3 > < Voice: (416) 736-2100 ext.22618 > < FAX: (416) 736-5679 > < Internet: rgeater@yorku.ca > < WWW: www.interlog.com/~geater/homerick.htm > < -------------------------------------------------- > < If you're not living on the edge, > < you're taking up too much space! > < > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18917; Fri, 4 Oct 96 08:16:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA29740 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:12:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhub0.tc.umn.edu (mhub0.tc.umn.edu [128.101.131.50]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA29735 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:12:12 -0700 Received: from maroon.tc.umn.edu by mhub0.tc.umn.edu; Fri, 4 Oct 96 10:12:10 -0500 Received: by maroon.tc.umn.edu; Fri, 4 Oct 96 10:12:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 10:12:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Yohaan John To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Yohaan John , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CC in PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Yohaan John wrote: > > > The only problem is that my PINE is 3.91 and I do not > > think that there is a choice of "alt-addresses" in SETUP-CONFIG. At > > least I didn't find any. My SETUP-CONFIG screen is this. Do you know > > what I am supposed to do with PINE 3.91? > > Yes ... upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95). > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If only the University of Minnesota (probably the largest college campus in the US) would listen to that piece of advice were I to propose it. :-) I'll give it a shot though. Thanks a lot. Yohaan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09511; Fri, 4 Oct 96 08:47:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22106 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id IAA22089 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 08:40:00 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:34:59 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA26354; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:39:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:39:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Peter Beckman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Connections to IMAP server using PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" It is taking this long because Pine is attempting to establish a "pre-authenticated IMAP connection" to your server in order to save you having to type in your username and password. The problem is that whoever set up the IMAP server software hasn't installed the symbolic link (and perhaps changes to the rsh mechanism to allow this). Pine tries for a while, gives up, and falls back to asking you for your username and password. Two possible solutions: 1. Get the IMAP server software installed properly to allow pre-authenticated connections. Doing so will save you and others from having to enter their username and password each time they start Pine. 2. Append ":143: to the hostname in the string specifying the IMAP server in your Pine configuration file. Do this by starting Pine and going to its Setup Configuration screen. Then look through all the settings and look for those specifying your IMAP server. Say these are to the machine "imap.site.domain" ... they will currently look something like this: {imap.site.domain}INBOX Change this to have ":143" at the end of the hostname: {imap.site.domain:143}INBOX (Note: I am assuming that your IMAP server software is "talking" on the standard IMAP port -- 143 -- if not then replace 143 with the appropriate port number.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 30 Sep 1996, Peter Beckman wrote: > We've got a seperate mail server running IMAP, and we use pine to get > our mail. Well, this sucks because it takes almost 30 seconds to get > my login/password prompt. WHY!!!! Does it ALWAYS take this long, or > are we doing something wrong? The machines are physically next to > eachother, and we have twisted pair going right to it, and traceroute > yields a 2.0ns access time. What's going on? How do we fix it? > > Please e-mail responses. > > Peter > -- > Peter Beckman The Apartment, Alexandria, VA > beckman@purplecow.com http://www.purplecow.com/~beckman/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32329; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:08:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA29893 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:04:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA29877 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:04:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9GSo-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsypng@pollux.cmc.aes.doe.ca (Jacques Marcoux) Subject: Re: reading attached files Date: 02 Oct 1996 09:20:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: asc0@lex.lccc.edu's message of 1 Oct 1996 07:08:49 -0700 >>>>> "Anna" == Anna Colosi writes: In article asc0@lex.lccc.edu (Anna Colosi) writes: Anna> I am a new user and can not read attachments set to me. They are word Anna> documents that I can not read. Do I have to config something? Anna> Thanks. UNIX box? If so ask your sysadmin about .mailcap -- ______ ______ ___/ /_______________________________________/ /_ /_ __//_____//_Jacques_//_Marcoux_//_____/_ __/ /_/ /_/ jmarcoux@ec.gc.ca 514.421.4794 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20336; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:12:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA08221 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08216 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:09:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9GTS-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 2 Oct 1996 13:35:22 GMT Message-Id: References: darius@alliedproductions.com (Michael Darius): > I have been trying for ages to create a filter for my forward file. > or figure out another way to accomplish this task... If your ISP offers ELM's "filter" then look at my descriptions on this page: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html > I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if > it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded > to their email address... Add this rule to $HOME/.elm/filter-rules : if (from = address) then forward address.new And if you want to keep a copy of it then use the action "forwardc", ie if (from = address) then forwardc address.new > an example of what I have tried: > if for: jan@alliedproductions.com then to: jan@anotherdomain.com > if for: dave@alliedproductions.com then to: dave@anotherdomain.com > none of which have worked... If you know the format for which this should > look, or have any information regarding this subject please send mail .. If you don't tell us the name of the filter you use then we cannot help you. Sven@mydomainnameislongerthanyours.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00599; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:43:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA09049 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA09044 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9H0G-00038TC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Printing with no FPU Date: 4 Oct 1996 16:57:32 GMT Message-Id: <533fls$mul@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , rgeater@Yorku.CA (Rick Geater) writes: > Hello. > Just a quick question about running pine on a MAC network. Printing from > pine works fine from the PowerMacs and the Mac IIci(s) but trying to > print from the Mac IIsi(s) causes a 'bomb' [error message: no FPU]. Does > the new version of pine require a FPU and if so, how can I get around this > problem without installing a FPU (emulated or otherwise). It is a bit confusing. How did you use Pine on a Mac? Did you use telnet to log into a Unix machine, and used Pine there? Which telnet software did you use? NCSA Telnet? Which version? Which Unix did you log into? What version of Mac system did you use? Is the printer hooked to the Mac or the Unix? Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:44:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00013; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:44:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01181 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:40:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01170 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:39:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9H04-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: server line breakdown - what now? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:36:34 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What can I do to save my work when the line to the remote server breaks down while I am composing a message? Postpone seems to need the server. Thanks, - Hans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:58:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00761; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:58:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01570 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:54:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01562 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 13:54:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9HE7-00038BC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt Date: 4 Oct 1996 18:52:19 GMT Message-Id: <533md3$21q@due.unit.no> References: In article , Emily H Kelly wrote: >Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt >asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure >Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure >Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the >default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine >either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a >default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting >my mail). To remove this feature, unset the configurated value for the read-message-folder. I don't know whether it is possible to do this for values which are set globally, though. (Changing the value is OK, but is removing it altogether so?) Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02917; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:24:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA13669 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA13664 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9JUA-00038XC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adam.kippes@pobox.com (Adam Kippes) Subject: Re: Newsgroups header in Pine and Eudora Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 01:07:47 GMT Message-Id: <531ntn$1d4@news.zipnet.net> References: <52t00j$iu@lex.zippo.com> mist@cyberus.ca wrote: >Try as I might, I cannot find a way of getting either Eudora Lite or >Unix PINE to let me type in a "Newsgroups" header which I need for >bunging an article through a mail2news gateway. >Is it possible? How please? Mist, Do you mean you want to add a header called "Newsgroups", as in "Newsgroups: comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows, ..." ? If so, there is an ExtraHeaders variable in the INI file; unfortunately, I don't think it was available before Pro v2.2. Good luck, -- AK --------------------- adam.kippes@pobox.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03795; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:24:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA05838 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA05833 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:20:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9JVB-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 16:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Frayer Subject: error posting message? Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 08:54:52 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try to send a reply to a message and include the original message in the reply I am given "error posting message:441 article not posted more included text than new". I'm not sure exactly what this means and what to do about it. Sincerely, Bob. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05682; Fri, 4 Oct 96 17:48:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA15785 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA15780 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 17:46:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9KmR-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 20:35:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> On 29 Sep 1996 ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: > I have been using Pine 3.91 [...] Since you are using an old verion of Pine, you will not be able to use one of the nifty-swifty new features (Lcc:). > (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list > without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? > [...] Yes. Enter the name of the list in the Bcc: field instead of the To: field. (Press Ctrl-R for Rich Headers if Bcc: is not visible.) It is very important that you put *something* in the To: field, or your distribution will wind up being visible anyway. Probably the simplest thing to do is to put your own address in the To: field. This way, each recipient will only see his/her address. (Recommendation: pester your service provider into upgrading Pine to current level so you can use the new Lcc: feature.) > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to > enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? This one I do not know (but would like to know) myself. Let's hope one of the other fine people on this group will know. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26162; Fri, 4 Oct 96 18:14:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA08606 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:10:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA08601 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 18:10:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9LA0-00038YC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 18:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de (Roland Rosenfeld) Subject: Re: pgp-interface Date: 30 Sep 1996 18:28:01 +0200 Message-Id: <52oseh$s66@spinnaker.rhein.de> References: <324C000B.11D7@atpibm6000.tuwien.ac.at> <52ogvr$3km@news.ececs.uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jie Yuan wrote: > > does anyone know if there exists a pine-pgp-interface and where to get > > it! > I have a web page that describes the use of PGP with Pine (3.92 or > newer) on Unix machines (SGI in particular). There is a short (a > dozen lines) shell script in this scheme. A few configuration > settings in Pine. It is quite simple and easy. Please check it > out: > http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html > Note it is an underline "_", not a hyphen in the filename. And don't forget to have a look at the alternative solution, which can be found at http://www.rhein.de/~roland/pgppine/ Ciao Roland -- * Internet: roland@spinnaker.rhein.de * Fido: 2:2450/42 * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:03:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08619; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:03:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA19213 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:00:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA19205 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Omb-00038aC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 21:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Move current "sent-mail" msg Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:00:32 GMT Message-Id: <533j7i$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <52ucer$nqd@stratus.skypoint.net> <52ufg6$584@news.gte.com> On 2 Oct 1996 19:23:50 GMT, stephen.weihman@tel.gte.com wrote: >sstarr@skypoint.com (Susan Starr) writes: >> How do I get rid of the message 'Move current "sent-mail" to >> "sent-mail-sep-1996"?'. >Doesn't work that way for me, but I'm running 3.95. Anyway, you can >always change your .pinerc file. Simply edit .pinerc and look for: > ># Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. >last-time-prune-questioned=96.10 > ^^^^^ >Just change the date to the current month. I suppose you could also >set it ahead so that pine won't ever ask, but I can't verify that. I can. Mine's set to 99.12 and I'm never bugged by those (to me) annoying messages. I think you can set it ahead farther than that, but I seem to recall a reliable source posting to this group a while back that Pine assumes we're in the 20th century; if you want to go beyond 1999, you need to specify the century (e.g. - "2000.01" for January 2000). -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10936; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:59:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA12091 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA12086 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 22:57:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Pg9-00038aC; Fri, 4 Oct 96 22:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patricia Robinett Subject: my name as newsgroup author NOT Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:34:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: i do not understand. i have the same problem as others, that instead of my name showing up in the newsgroup authors list, there is a to:alt.astrology or to:starman or some such nonsense. and it isnot only from my list that it is not identified as my posting. others have also had problems finding my writings. plus it appears that my name isnot showing up when i reply to postings via email. i am losing patience with this, as i feel powerless. what is the problem? what can i do to get my name to show up under the newsgroup authors list? an interesting theory, adam, that this only happens within pine, but others are not able to find my postings either. i don't like this new feature. i need to be able to find my postings by my name and for others to be able to find my postings by my name. i post articles that are of interest to others and they look for my articles by my name. this is important to me. please tell me how to change this posting name thing. On 21 Sep 1996 hurry@imap2..asu.edu wrote: > : When I want to post a message to a newsgroup I use my personal name > : which is butterfly. Usually (with the old version of pine), upon posting, > : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal > : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my > : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" > : and the subject. > > This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with > "butterfly." no it doesn't. What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to > easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to > know where you sent your messages. is there an option that changes this wonderful new feature to the old feature? > -- > Adam Myrow > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31446; Fri, 4 Oct 96 23:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA19888 for pine-info-out; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:04:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA19883 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 1996 23:04:35 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 5 Oct 96 14:09:52 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:03:27 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: Ramanuj Basu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Move current "sent-mail" msg In-Reply-To: <533j7i$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Ramanuj Basu wrote: > I can. Mine's set to 99.12 and I'm never bugged by those (to me) > annoying messages. I think you can set it ahead farther than that, but > I seem to recall a reliable source posting to this group a while back that > Pine assumes we're in the 20th century; if you want to go beyond 1999, you > need to specify the century (e.g. - "2000.01" for January 2000). Close, to get to the year 2000 just add "1" to 1999. i.e. 100=2000 so if you intend to use pine that long then 170 would bring you to 2070. :-) :-) Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:18:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09546; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:18:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA20678 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA20673 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QtB-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: Re: distribution lists Date: 4 Oct 1996 23:06:42 GMT Message-Id: <5345a2$8co@hermes.acs.unt.edu> References: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> Answer to question (1): Use the Lcc: field. It shows the name of the list in the header but doesn't show the individual addresses ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: > I have been using Pine 3.91 for awhile but I am not very familiar with the > use of the address book. I've figured out how to make a distribution list > within ADDRESS BOOK, and to use the name of the distribution list in > COMPOSE MESSAGE to send a message to all within the list. But ... > (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list > without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? > (I'd rather not have everyone in the group know who is in the group) > I have seen this work for some mail tools on VMS systems ... I am currently using a UNIX system ... and Pine? > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to > enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? > > TIA > Sue Foltz > -- > ************************************************************************ > * By the way, are you PAYING MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO on LONG DISTANCE? * > * * -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22868; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:18:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA13027 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA13022 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:16:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QwC-00038cC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Filtering Header lines Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:53:19 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ~Fake-From: Anthony Towns -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I was wondering if anyone could offer some advice on filtering lines in a message header, specifically when posting a message to a newsgroup. First a little background: I've got my computer set up so that the newsgroups I read regularly get put into a number of ``category'' folders: I've got one for programming, one for aus newsgroups, and so on. To distinguish the original newsgroup, I've put a ``[-news.group.name-]'' tag in front of the subject line. It works really well. Until I come to reply to one of these messages and forget to remove the [-...-] tag, and make myself look like a fool. Well, more or less. I can cope with mail messages, because I can (and have) changed ``sendmail'' to a batchfile. One other thing, is there a particular reason why Pine ignores brackets when sorting by Subject? Thanx in advance, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMlXpw+RRvX9xctrtAQGlQAP8DwXQI1yNTcZFU3DbtPCpVOYR5rTpYDLr xjlotH0CVcqF2UEojaN/K6HZWqD2I+EKQPuyYkGjDlP0P8J+/foMLBJv4ND4qCis 9aMrePqlae52w5eSfL/Zfn66Eh0AkGQ0ImtNtbq2qK8aDhaDmagzoGAhTgsBV823 SYCEkLezstI= =iSdH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:23:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09997; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:23:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA20776 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA20771 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 00:21:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9QwX-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 00:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: Re: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:40:59 +1000 Message-Id: References: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> ~Fake-From: Anthony Towns -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [posted & mailed] On 3 Oct 1996, Mike Carlson wrote: > Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email > box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going > just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. You should have ``formail'' if you also have procmail. formail lets you split a mailbox up into the component messages and pass them through another program. Assuming you have procmail set up to handle new mail properly, $ formail < /mail/mike -s procmail -d mike ie ``run the command [procmail deliver to mike] for each message in [/mail/mike]'' > Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have > it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) Sorry, but I can't help you on that one. Setting Pine's ``Sort order'' to Date (as opposed to Arrival) gets most of it right, but odd date formats still (used to? I upgraded to 3.95 yesterday. Maybe it works now) confuse it. Hope this helps, aj - -- Anthony Towns | #include aj@humbug.org.au | PGP Key: 0x7172DAED http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 | Life is not a matroid. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: ascii Comment: Public key available from http://student.uq.edu.au/~s343676 iQCVAwUBMlXm5eRRvX9xctrtAQFmyAQArBBLslxVzELNKSprudQ9Kwle7iZuIbvx spzvuBmJBXvoaqkFj73ftpsj1M2HB/dQXEb8nO2GUAVZjw8JPeMEsXf4BaF6jrzU icwfrXBlNm+C9NnLdAyuVS+NeyTLJRFFfaAoB3kvSX27+Cy11jI0L/mIEuOIHV+g 9X38xWsFBtY= =5ZQP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31063; Sat, 5 Oct 96 03:35:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA15398 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA15393 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 03:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9Twc-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 03:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Carl D. Cravens" Subject: Chinese characters? Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 16:55:59 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently upgraded our Pine from 3.91 to 3.95... the upgrade when quite smoothly and happy with the new features. Except that I broke something for one of our users... with 3.91, he was able to enter Chinese double-byte characters, but with this version he is not able to. I can't seem to figure out how to enable this. (3.91 came pre-compiled with BSD/OS, so I don't know how that one was done.) Is this something that Pine itself supports, and can you help me fix it? Thanks a lot. -- Carl D. Cravens Technical Support / Junior Administrator cravens@southwind.net SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. http://www.southwind.net/ Wichita: 316-263-7963 Elsewhere: 1-800-525-7963 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04485; Sat, 5 Oct 96 04:10:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA23507 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:06:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA23502 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 04:06:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9UTz-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 04:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: 3.95 has delays on sending Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 17:12:24 GMT With Pine 3.95 on my HP-UX 9.05 system, it occasionally pauses for 5-20 seconds when trying to send mail. I don't think this happened before, and my HP-UX hasn't changed. Can anyone help? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:54:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12873; Sat, 5 Oct 96 05:54:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA17056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:52:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA17051 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 05:51:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9W6V-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 05:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thomas Meinders Subject: HELP on error! Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 12:51:17 +0100 Message-Id: <32564BB5.62F926ED@mechb.uni-stuttgart.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello out there: Suddenly my great email program seems to give me trouble. Without changing anything at the configuration the program doesn't send email anymore. It gives me the following error message: -- [Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 queuename: Cannot create "qfMAA08204] Does anybody has an idea what I could do about it? I would appreciate your email! Thomas Meinders _____________________________________________________________________________ | | | /\ Thomas Meinders | | / \ | | /\ \ / Institute B of Mechanics | | / \ \/ /\ University of Stuttgart | | \ / / \ Pfaffenwaldring 9 Phone: +49 (711) 685-6821 | | \/ /\ \ / 70550 Stuttgart Fax: +49 (711) 685-6400 | | / \ \/ Germany Email: mt@mechb.uni-stuttgart.de | | \ / Web: www.uni-stuttgart.de/UNIuser/ | | \/ mechb/Leute/Meinders/home.html | | ---------------------------------------------------------------+ | privat: Friesenstr. 20, 71065 Sinde From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12834; Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:08:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA24743 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:07:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA24730 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 06:06:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9WPl-00038aC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 06:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ken Varley" Subject: Attachments Date: 5 Oct 1996 00:47:21 GMT Message-Id: <01bbb256$82f44a00$02e0aec7@none.sprynet.com> My son is away at college. He is receiving mail from me via the pine program. I have sent him some file attachments, but he says he does not know how to open them. I have never used Pine. Can someone explain to me so I can explain to him how to handle the attached files I sent him. I am using the Microsoft Explorer Mail Program. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05812; Sat, 5 Oct 96 07:12:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA25404 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from are.Berkeley.EDU (are.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.175.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id HAA25399 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:10:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (gautam@localhost) by are.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id HAA22376 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:00:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:00:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Gautam Sethi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: creating aliases Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. thanks, gautam. ******************************************************************** Gautam Sethi Tel: (510) 642-3345 207 Giannini Hall Fax: (510) 643-8911 Univ of California Eml: gautam@are.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720 Web: http://are.berkeley.edu/~gautam ******************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13995; Sat, 5 Oct 96 07:56:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA18356 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:54:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA18351 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 07:54:22 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 5 Oct 96 22:59:36 +0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 22:53:10 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Gautam Sethi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: creating aliases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Gautam Sethi wrote: > hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach > classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers > to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. You are using pine3.95. So, you are well on your way. You seem to work at Berkeley so with luck you won't mind a bit of "Information Research".... From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook). Then type ?(help) are read about the addressbook...which is really giving you a way to do aliases. Pay special attention to the section on "Distribution List" which may come in handy when you want to sent to all 100 people at the same time. Then, while composing a mail and with your cursor in the upper portion of the screen type ^R(ich hdr). Then put your cursor on the Lcc: field and type ^G(help). Now, you should have the information you need....and you've learned a bit more about the help features of pine. This help feature is available without cost or obligation...and you don't have to be told to use it in order for it to be of assistance. Regards, Ed ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:11:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06640; Sat, 5 Oct 96 09:11:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id JAA26837 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA26826 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:09:06 -0700 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA147513; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:08:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:08:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Gregor J Jones To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, ant_sue@nmia.com Subject: Re: distribution lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: | On 29 Sep 1996 ant_sue@nmia.com wrote: | | > (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail | > addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having | > to enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? | | This one I do not know (but would like to know) myself. I have not had reason to try this, but I do have a suggestion. Compose a message to yourself, with the file containing the addresses as an 'attachment'. Then, when the message arrives, use the viewer to 'view' the attachment, which should look like the original list, and then use 'take address' to get the addresses. The trick is to get that file into some format that can be read by Pine. Yours Gregor -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Dr. Gregor J. Jones Tel: (617) 638-5336 Department of Physiology (617) 282-4484 (home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: (617) 638-4273 Boston MA 02118, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15136; Sat, 5 Oct 96 10:24:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA20494 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:21:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from are.Berkeley.EDU (are.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.175.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id KAA20489 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 10:21:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (gautam@localhost) by are.Berkeley.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA23075; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 09:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Gautam Sethi To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: creating aliases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII thanks a lot, ed. it worked! thanks, gautam. ******************************************************************** Gautam Sethi Tel: (510) 642-3345 207 Giannini Hall Fax: (510) 643-8911 Univ of California Eml: gautam@are.berkeley.edu Berkeley, CA 94720 Web: http://are.berkeley.edu/~gautam ******************************************************************** On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Gautam Sethi wrote: > > > hi. could you please tell me how i can create aliases in pine? i teach > > classes that have upto a 100 people, and do not want the message headers > > to have a 100 addresses. i'll appreciate it if you can help. > > You are using pine3.95. So, you are well on your way. You > seem to work at Berkeley so with luck you won't mind a bit of > "Information Research".... > > From the m(ain) menu, type a(ddressbook). Then type ?(help) > are read about the addressbook...which is really giving you a way > to do aliases. Pay special attention to the section on "Distribution > List" which may come in handy when you want to sent to all 100 people > at the same time. > > Then, while composing a mail and with your cursor in the upper > portion of the screen type ^R(ich hdr). Then put your cursor on the > Lcc: field and type ^G(help). > > Now, you should have the information you need....and you've > learned a bit more about the help features of pine. This help feature is > available without cost or obligation...and you don't have to be told > to use it in order for it to be of assistance. > > Regards, > > Ed > > > ----- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:36:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15967; Sat, 5 Oct 96 12:36:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA22056 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id MAA22047 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 12:28:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9cKw-00038iC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 12:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FAQ Editor Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 4 Oct 1996 23:37:54 -0400 Message-Id: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 4 October 1996 Copyright: See section 7.0 FAQ-launcher-URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ All current hypertext versions of this FAQ are accessible through either of the above two "FAQ Launcher" URLs. If you want to link to this FAQ, please link to these launchers rather than to only one version of the FAQ (e.g., rather than linking to the version you are viewing right now!). This will give your users a choice of which version they access, e.g., a single-file version or an index-plus-multiple-files version. Also, please give links to both mirrors of the launcher since sometimes one or the other is down. _____________________________________________________ ________| |________ \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | Copyright (c) 1994-96 Nancy McGough and others | / / |_____________________________________________________| \ /___________) (__________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 Preliminaries 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ 0.1.1 Hypertext 0.1.2 Plain Text 0.2 Terminology 0.3 Notation 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2.1.3 Testing 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail 2.2.1 General Strategies 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Mailagent 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent 3.5 Folder Types Supported 3.6 Mailagent References 4.0 Filter 4.1 Setting up Filter 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 4.3 Filter References 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References 6.0 Contributors 6.1 Acknowledgements 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ 7.0 Copyright Notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries Q: How can I have my incoming mailing-list messages automatically put into appropriate folders? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This FAQ provides basic instructions for Unix users to set up either procmail, mailagent, or elm's filter to filter incoming mailing-list messages. If you have a choice, I recommend procmail which is powerful, robust, and is actively developed and supported. All these mail processors can also be set up to filter other types of incoming messages, send automated replies, etc. For instructions see the relevant references listed below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape Navigator, Microsoft Internet Explorer, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at the following hypertext FAQ archives: http://www.cs.ruu.nl/cgi-bin/faqwais/ http://www.lib.ox.ac.uk/search/search_faqs.html http://www.smartpages.com/bngfaqs/top.html All hypertext versions of this particular FAQ are accessible through either of these "FAQ Launcher" URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version is regularly posted to comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.mh, comp.mail.mush, comp.mail.pine, comp.mail.zmail, comp.answers, and news.answers. It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The plain text FAQ is also available through: Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu Containing the following in the body of the message: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 25 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing `cd'. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.3 Notation Notation Meaning ======== ======= TextName placeholder; replace with appropriate text placeholder; replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text you type but without the quotes "text" text you type including the double quotes 'text' text you type including the single quotes [Key] press the key, e.g., [Space], [Enter], or [Tab] ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies It is a good idea to come up with a system for naming and reading your mail folders. With a good system, you will have an easier time managing the hundreds (or thousands!) of messages you will receive. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with `IN'. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. This way when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders! ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders Here are some instructions for opening a mail folder that's in the default folder directory for some mailers and newsreaders. Default Folder Reader Directory Command line command From within reader ====== ============== ==================== ================== elm ~/Mail elm -f =folder c =folder pine ~/mail pine -if folder G folder mail ~/mail mail -f /path/folder nn ~/News nn +folder G +folder (Please send me information for other mailers and newsreaders.) Pine has an incoming-folder variable which you can use to list your incoming folders in a separate section of your folder list (to view your folder list in Pine, type `L'). Setting this variable also allows you to use the Tab key to step through all new messages in all your incoming folders. For more information see the question "How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?" in the Pine FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html#xtocid178164 IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you are going to be editing your incoming mail folder, e.g., deleting messages, then your filtering program and your folder reader should use locking schemes that work together. Otherwise, if mail is delivered at the same time that you are deleting a message your folder may be corrupted. To learn more about locking see the question "What is folder locking and how does it work?" in the Pine FAQ. This is useful to read even if you don't use Pine as your mailer. http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/QandA/sysadmins.html#xtocid7145 Most mailers, such as pine and elm, use lock a file named `folder.lock' to lock the folder named `folder'. Note that nn does not lock folders so you probably don't want to use nn to delete messages in a folder that is receiving incoming messages. (Please send me info about locking in other mailers and newsreaders.) For more information about specific mailers and newsreaders, see the relevant documentation, such as man pages and Web pages. Some pointers to documentation are listed in section 5.0. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. To find out how to process an existing mail folder see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1 Setting Up Procmail To set up and test procmail, follow the ten steps given in sections 2.1.1 through 2.1.4 below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 1] To find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is, type one of the following commands: Shell Command ===== ======= csh which procmail sh or ksh type procmail various whereis procmail various where procmail Make a note of the full path to procmail because this is needed in step 5b below. You can find out the version by typing: procmail -v The latest released version, as of 15 April 1995, is 3.10. Version 3.11 should be out soon. If your system doesn't have procmail or doesn't have the latest version, you may want to ask your system administrator to install it. The procmail package of tools is at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like mailagent (described in section 3 of this FAQ) or filter (described in section 4). ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. cd pico .procmailrc NOTE: Throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace `pico' with your editor. 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd .procmail pico rc.testing 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.testing: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in 2.3 "Explanation of Test Recipe." 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace `nancym' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use ~ or environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] On many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.3 Testing 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with `test' in the subject and one without `test' in the subject. 7] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with `test' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without `test' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were not delivered correctly, see section 2.2 on "Troubleshooting Procmail" section below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.maillists for filtering incoming mailing-list messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.maillists 8b] In rc.maillists, create a recipe, like the two example recipes below, for each of your mailing lists. :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists. The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk IMPORTANT NOTES =============== * ^TO is not a normal regular expression; it is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. For details, see the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man pages. * Do not put a space between the caret (^) and the word `TO' in `^TO'. * Do not put a space between the `^TO' and the text that you are matching on; it must be `^TOtext'. * Both letters in `TO' must be capitalized. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.testing line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists NOTE: Leaving the rc.testing line in your .procmailrc file is useful for future testing. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail If messages are not delivered correctly, here are steps you can use to try to solve the problem. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2.1 General Strategies 1] Look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. 2] Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.testing 3] Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c in "Setting up Procmail for Testing" above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) 4] If the above three steps do not locate the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on Test procmail by following steps 6 and 7 again. Look at your $LOGFILE (which will contain verbose messages) to see if you can now determine what the problem is. If you are still having problems see the next section on "Alternate .forward Files." After you get procmail to work, you probably will want to set VERBOSE back to off. ------------------------------ From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. NOTE ==== If your system uses procmail as its local delivery agent, you do not need a .forward file; simply having a .procmailrc files suffices. To find out if procmail is the local delivery agent, ask your system administrator. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe you used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail You can use mailstat, a useful script that is part of the procmail package, to check your procmail log file. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either `which mailstat' or `type mailstat'. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. The script is located with all the other procmail tools (see 2.1.1 above for the ftp location). ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.5 Procmail References Web Page: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/procmail/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/procmail/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.0 Mailagent Mailagent is a powerful mail processing package that can be used to process your mail messages, either at arrival time via a .forward hook or later on while they are already saved in a mail folder. Mailagent is written in Perl and hence has all the advantages of being interpreted, i.e. it is easy to enhance dynamically and to customize. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up mailagent to process incoming mail messages from within a .forward. To find out about the more advanced features of mailagent, please refer to the mailagent(1) manual page. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 1] First, make sure mailagent is available on your system. The easiest way to do this is to run: mailagent -V which will print the mailagent version if it is available, or the shell will issue an error message "mailagent: not found" or something like it. 2a] Now you need to understand the MTA (Mail Transport Agent, the program that delivers the mail; usually, sendmail) will NOT deliver to mailagent directly, rather to an intermediate (small) filter program. Two versions are available: shell or C -- refer to the mailagent(1) manpage to choose, but I recommend you use the C version first, and move to the shell version if you can't run a binary from your .forward file. 2b] Locate the filter program (it will be filter or filter.sh depending on whether you choose the C or the shell version respectively) under some directory like /usr/local/lib/mailagent. From now on, we'll assume we use the C filter and that it is located under /usr/local/lib/mailagent. 3] Copy the file /usr/local/lib/mailagent/mailagent.cf as ~/.mailagent and edit it to configure your system correctly. You will see two distinct sections in that file and you need to set-up properly the first one, the "Configuration section". If you have a version of mailagent that is recent enough (at least 3.0 PL32) then you can create an initial configuration very easily and quickly by running the following command: mailagent -I which will set-up an almost ready-to-use ~/.mailagent file. All you need to do at this point is go through its configuration section to make sure mailagent made the right choices... The minimal set of variables that MUST be correctly set (i.e. for which you cannot rely on the default set in the file) are (# introduces comment in a shell-like manner, which run up to the end of the line): home: # Your HOME directory, as reported by "echo $HOME", usually. path: # Path to be used to locate mailagent and perl, at least. p_xxx: # Path to be appended to "path" above when running on machine "xxx". user: # Your login name. name: # Your name. level: # Logging level. I recommend you raise it to 20 for testing. The mail folder directory is ~/Mail by default, but it can be changed only from within your rule file by putting maildir = ~/mail; at its top, for instance, to make it ~/mail. The rule file is defined as the "rules" parameter, and is set to ~/.rules by default. 4] Ensure the directories configured in your ~/.mailagent under "logdir" and "spool" and "queue" do exist. If you use the standard setting, this requires the following commands: cd mkdir var cd var mkdir log mailagent cd mailagent mkdir queue 5a] Create a rule file (named ~/.rules by default) for testing: cd vi .rules 5b] Enter the following in ~/.rules Subject: /test/ { SAVE testing }; The meaning of that rule should be pretty obvious: If we receive a mail whose subject line contains the word "test", then we save that mail in a folder named "testing", under the default folder directory (~/Mail). 5c] Create a ~/.forward file as follows: "|exec /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter >> /export/home/ram/.bak 2>&1" The meaning of that line is the following: every mail should be piped (hence the leading "|" character) onto the filter program, and any output from that program (i.e. errors) are appended to some file in your home directory, with stderr following stdout (2>&1) in traditional sh syntax. == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Your .forward is always processed by sh, regardless of your login shell. * Replace /export/home/ram with your proper login directory full path. That's a part that makes your .forward unique (for zealous optimizing sendmail that are dead wrong about optimizing!) and that can save you a lot of trouble if anything goes wrong! Just look at your ~/.bak! * Replace /usr/local/lib/mailagent/filter with the proper filter path on your machine. 5d] Note that on many systems, you need to ensure your .forward will be readable by everybody, and that your home directory has the "x" bit set for everybody (i.e. can be part of a lookup path) so that sendmail can see and parse your .forward file. To ensure this, type: cd chmod a+r .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with "test" in the subject, and one without "test" in the subject. 7a] Checkout your ~/.bak file: it should be empty! 7b] Checkout your ~/var/log/agentlog file to see what really happened to your messages. Watch out for any ERROR or WARNING logs. This assumes you have left at least the default logging level (9) in the ~/.mailagent file (the "level" variable). But for testing, that level should be raised to 20 to help you diagnose what's going on. 7c] Look out in ~/Mail/testing. You should find there the message whose Subject line contained the word "test". Then make sure the other message has been delivered to your regular mailbox. (Since no match occurred in your rule file, the mail is left in your mailbox by default). 7d] TROUBLESHOOTING * If your mail was not properly delivered, please make sure your rule file and configuration file are correct by issuing the following command: mailagent -d * If the previous command does not output the single rule you should have put in ~/.rules, then please make sure step 3 and 4 above were correctly performed (those being the crucial steps ensuring a proper configuration). * Check the ~/.bak file for error messages. * Check for typos in any of these files: ~/.forward ~/.mailagent ~/.rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in step 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of the previous hints helped you identify problem, and you can't figure it out from the output in ~/.bak or in the ~/var/log/agentlog file (or whatever file you have configured for logging within your ~/.mailagent file, variables "log" and "logdir"), then make sure your mail is not waiting in the MTA's queue: this might be the case if the agentlog file is empty. If you are using sendmail as MTA, you can run: /usr/lib/sendmail -bp to print out the queue. * As a last resort, please look at the mailagent(1) manual page under the section "Testing Your Installation" for more tips and things to look at. 8] Once you have successfully tested mailagent in steps 6 and 7 above, you're on! Mailagent is ready to process your mail. All you have to do is extend the ~/.rules file to add more rules. For instance: To Cc: www-talk { SAVE www-talk }; To Cc: agent-users { SAVE agent-users }; Those two rules filter the two mailing lists www-talk and agent-users into their respective folders, whether the mailing list address appear in the To OR Cc header. Since rules are not qualified as a pattern match (contrary to our test above), they match on logins in the address, i.e. they will match things like www-talk@chip.com or chip!www-talk, or a plain simple www-talk if this is a local alias. (This implicit matching on logins works only for some selectors like To, Cc or From which are know to contain addresses). If you wish to sort on patterns appearing in the Subject of messages for instance, then you must use a pattern matching syntax, as in: Subject: /star trek/ { SAVE star-trek; }; to save in a folder "star-trek" all the messages whose subject contains the words "star trek". Case matters, but keep on reading... 9] As an advanced topic, since mailagent is written in Perl, you have all the power of Perl's regular expressions at your disposal. Which means you can write things like this: To Cc: agent-users { REJECT AGENT }; Subject: /^\w*subscribe/i { DELETE }; * { UNIQUE -a; SAVE agent }; The second lines makes use of that perl extended regular expression syntax: \w matches an alphanumeric character plus "_", while the trailing "i" option requests a case-insensitive match. You also note you have a real automaton at your disposal. You can enter a special state (AGENT in our example) and continue parsing by only scanning for rules tagged by this mode. The first match stops the automaton, unless you REJECT to continue processing. When not restricted by a mode list, a rule is always taken into account. For example, assuming the automaton is in the state "NEWS", it will not consider rules tagged , as in the above example. The automaton begins in mode "INITIAL". The "UNIQUE -a" action followed by a SAVE ensures only one copy per Message-ID will ever end-up in your agent folder -- no duplicates! Also note you can have more than one action per rule, and that the last one uses '*' to match anything, i.e. its action part between {} will always be executed in AGENT mode, when reached by the automaton. Also, since in Perl regular expression syntax, \b matches a word-boundary and \s any space or tab character, we can write our Star Trek message sorting into a much more robust form: Subject: /\bstar\s+trek\b/i { SAVE star-trek; }; (\s+ matches one or more white spaces, while \s* would match zero or more, see the Perl manual page for a complete description of regular expressions.) which will match on various subject strings like "Last Star Trek season" or "I am addicted to Star trek", but not on "Tristar treks" -- whatever that means :-) All in all, the filtering automaton syntax is pretty much intuitive and easy to read. You have to learn which actions are possible and what they mean, naturally. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail If you are curious about what mailagent does to your mail, you have two options: * Look at your "agentlog" file, with a log level set to 9. * Get a summary of all the actions performed by running: mailagent -summary This last option is only possible if you have initialized the statistics gathering process by creating a ~/var/mailagent/mailagent.st file (under the default setting from ~/.mailagent). You will get a clear picture of your processing, by seeing which rule match, how often, in which state, etc... You will also know how many times you SAVE or DELETE messages for instance. Actually, mailagent statistics are triggered by a simple mailagent -s command, the letters given after in the {u,m,a,r,y} set being options that alter the output given by the command. * Look at the ~/.bak occasionally to make sure no error is pending... ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? As soon as the filter program has taken a hold on your message, you can rest assured the mail will get filtered one way or the other. If filter can't queue your mail, it will exit with an exit status of 75, that status being recognized by "sendmail" as a "deliver later on" hint, in which case the mail message will safely wait in sendmail's queue. So if filter gets your message, it immediately forks and exits with a 0 status for sendmail, letting it know its work is finished and releasing it to save resources. It then calls mailagent on the queued message (in mailagent's private queue) to actually process the message. Only after successful processing will mailagent delete the queued message. Hence, under an heavily loaded system, the worst that could happen would be a duplicate processing of a message, or a bounce back when sendmail cannot fork and exec the filter program from your .forward. Under catastrophic conditions, filter or mailagent will simply dump the message on stdout, for ~/.bak to catch, preceded by the reason why processing was aborted. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent By default, mailagent proceeds with a fixed locking scheme (.lock extension) plus flock() if asked to do so at Configure time. However, mailagent provides support for NFS-secure locks and also can use non-standard locking procedures, configurable from within ~/.mailagent (variables "nfslock" and "mboxlock"). However, it cannot support locking on a rule basis (yet!). The author is willing to raise the priority of that item if one comes up with a legitimate need for that feature that could not be worked-around by a PERL escape. ;-) ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.5 Folder Types Supported Mailagent can deliver mail to plain UNIX folders (also known as "mbox format"), to MMDF folders, to MH folders (with unseen sequence update built-in and using locks, not like rcvstore which does not!) or to directories (ala MH, but without unseen sequence support and with alternate naming possible). It also supports delivery to folders with the "x" bit set, in which case mailagent interprets those as being hooks. It either pipes the message to the "program" or further interprets the hook to do more processing. See the manual page mailagent(1) under the section "MAIL HOOKS" for more details. ------------------------------ From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.6 Mailagent References Man Pages mailagent(1) - reference manual page (about 47 pages troff'ed). perl(1) - reference manual for Perl sendmail(8) - send mail over the Internet Examples: agent/examples/rules - a commented rule file sample, from the distribution source tree. Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: agent-users@foretune.co.jp Subscribe to the list by sending mail: To: majordomo@foretune.co.jp subscribe agent-users Mailagent archives: ftp://ftp.foretune.co.jp/pub/network/mail/mailagent EMAIL: Send mail to the author's mailagent: To: ram@hptnos02.grenoble.hp.com Subject: Command @SH maildist - mailagent - ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 4.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html Man Pages: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References PINE ==== Web Pages: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/pine/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: pine(1), pico(1), pilot(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Pages: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ Man Pages: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help and comp.emacs MH == Man Pages: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Man Pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == Web Pages: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/nn/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/nn/ (mirror of above URL) Man Pages: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn Please send me pointers to other mailer and newsreader references and let me know what newsreaders can read mail folders. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.0 Contributors This FAQ, like many others, is a collaborative effort. I learned a lot of the information in newsgroups and mailing lists, especially: comp.mail.* procmail mailing list Also, lots of people have mailed me information and I've tried to acknowledge them below. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.1 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to faq-editor@ii.com. If your reader understands the following URL, you can use it to send me mail: mailto:faq-editor@ii.com. Things I'm especially interested in are: * a comparison of mail filtering tools * what newsreaders can read mail folders * instructions for opening a specific folder in various readers * lock scheme and files used by various readers * other Unix filtering tools, like deliver * filtering tools for other operating systems like the Mac and DOS/Windows ------------------------------ From: FAQ Editor Subject: 7.0 Copyright Notice This FAQ is Copyright (c) 1994-96 Nancy McGough, except sections 2.2.2 and 3.0 through 3.6 which are Copyright (c) 1994-96 by the authors named in those sections. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. For more information, see Infinite Ink's Legal Notice, which is available at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/legalese/ http://www.best.com/~ii/legalese/ (mirror of above URL) End of Filtering Mail FAQ Digest ******************************** -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16617; Sat, 5 Oct 96 14:16:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id OAA01010 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:13:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alaska.net (calvino.alaska.net [206.149.65.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id OAA01005 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 14:13:10 -0700 Received: from hmmm.alaska.net by alaska.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26915; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 13:13:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 17:11:18 +0000 () From: hmmm To: Pine Developers Subject: News Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm very happy now that i got Pine 3.95 (bsd) mail going with a popclient - my Isp isn't up to playing around with Imapd. so now - my question is - what can i do about Newsgroups? i've tried a zillion different config options, but i can't get my nntp.isp.net to work very well with pine. i can't get a NEWSRC file set up on my PC, after 3 hours it pops up on my screen, but i can't save it. i tried many differnt news-collection paths. i think i need a popclient for nntp or something ... i don't know. ??? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ friends don't let friends do DOS ... http://www.alaska.net/~hmmm ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:07:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15914; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:07:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA25972 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA25967 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:03:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9hYg-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 17:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ekelly@world.std.com (Emily H Kelly) Subject: "Move read messages?" prompt Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:42:39 GMT I've pored over all the Pine documentation I could find and skimmed both the current newsspool and the mailing list archives, looking for an answer to the question I'm about to ask. If it's an exasperatingly common one, I apologize for wasting your time. Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting my mail). I've been a contented Pine 3.91 (Unix) user, and I just moved to a new shell account which has 3.93. There's nothing in my provider's pine.conf file that would explain it, and they don't have a pine.conf.fixed. I understand they might have a vested interest in my keeping my mail in my allotted disk space rather than their mailspool, but as far as I can tell they're not doing this. Is there any simple way to accomplish what I'm looking for? Emily -- Emily Harrison Kelly "If cats are going to inherit the Earth, this will ekelly@world.std.com be why." --Ian York on feline puking methodology From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19925; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:27:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA03992 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA03987 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 18:23:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9hq3-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 18:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 16:13:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am also trying to learn how to download my mail from PINE mail. If I click on export, it does not allow me to save it to my hard drive. If I go to setup, config, and enter, local instead of remote, it doesn't work. The host computer (UNIX) only sees my DOS computer as an extension of itself. I am trying to help a blind man who uses a braille reader and needs DOS. Our ISP only has windows support, although we can log in with DOS (Procomm). I looked in UNIX for Dummies but I still don't get it. Can someone tell me what to type in the config setup to allow downloading/saving to my own computer? Kathleen John Mellon wrote: > > Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based > UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing > about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help > or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > > John Mellon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16728; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:19:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA05343 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA05338 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:15:37 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 6 Oct 96 11:20:55 +0800 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:12:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Emily H Kelly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Oct 1996, Emily H Kelly wrote: > to the question I'm about to ask. If it's an exasperatingly common one, I > apologize for wasting your time. Well, at least you tried, right? > Is there any simple way to accomplish what I'm looking for? I'd have to check back and find if 3.93 had these features. If 3.93 doesn't have these then you will find yourself needing to upgrade to 3.95. (I'm fairly certain they were in 3.93...) Anyway, looking at the pine config/setup menu we find: OPTION: Read-Message-Folder By virtue of specifying a folder name here, Pine will be configured to save all messages which you have read during a session into the designated "read messages" folder. This allows you to more easily distinguish between your really new email (in your INBOX) and those which you have already read. Depending on how you define the "auto-move-read-messages" setting in the "feature-list", you may or may not be asked when you quit Pine if you want read messages to be moved to this folder. In either case, moving the messages means they will be deleted from your INBOX. If this is not a path name, it will be in the default collection for saves. Any valid folder specification, local or remote (via IMAP), is allowed. There is no default for the name of the read message folder. Then we also find: FEATURE: auto-move-read-msgs This feature controls an aspect of Pine's behavior upon quitting. If set, and the "read-message-folder" variable is also set, then Pine will automatically transfer all read messages to the designated folder and mark them as deleted in the INBOX. Messages in the INBOX marked with an "N" (meaning New, or unseen) are not affected. FYI, I have both of these unset and never get a prompt. This was one of the options you indicated would be OK, right? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20536; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:47:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA27948 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA27943 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 20:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9k4H-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 20:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ant_sue@nmia.com Subject: distribution lists Date: 29 Sep 1996 02:24:59 GMT Message-Id: <52kmlr$kn2@hume.nmia.com> I have been using Pine 3.91 for awhile but I am not very familiar with the use of the address book. I've figured out how to make a distribution list within ADDRESS BOOK, and to use the name of the distribution list in COMPOSE MESSAGE to send a message to all within the list. But ... (1) is there a way to send to (all members within) a distribution list without Pine printing out all of the member names into the header area? (I'd rather not have everyone in the group know who is in the group) I have seen this work for some mail tools on VMS systems ... I am currently using a UNIX system ... and Pine? (2) if you have a file in your directory that is a listing of e-mail addresses, is there a way to tell pine to use that (file) without having to enter all those addresses into an ADDRESS BOOK distribution list? TIA Sue Foltz -- ************************************************************************ * By the way, are you PAYING MORE THAN YOU HAVE TO on LONG DISTANCE? * * * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20131; Sat, 5 Oct 96 23:11:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA07126 for pine-info-out; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA07121 for ; Sat, 5 Oct 1996 23:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9mKg-00038jC; Sat, 5 Oct 96 23:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Broadcasting emails Date: 3 Oct 1996 16:10:19 GMT Message-Id: <530ohb$ooh@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <52ipts$f2o@cronkite.cisco.com>, akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) writes: > Zhenghao Yeh (yeh@netcom.com) wrote: >: Hi! Expert, >: >: How can I send broadcasting emails? I have a list of my friends, I want >: to send the same email to all of them with one address on each mail >: header. What I mean is that there shouldn't be all the addresses in the >: header? Can pine do that? Thanks. > > Not only pine, but all the mailers I know so far, CAN'T do this. Sorry to burst the bubble! Pine 3.95 can do it. I am not sure about other versions except 3.91 cannot do it. First, create a list/group in the address book. E.g., I created a group, vol, for my volunteers. Second, in Pine, do a "c" to start the composing page. While the cursor is still in one of the header lines, do a "^R" to get the "rich header" mode. Skip the "To:" line. Go to the "Lcc:" line and enter the list/ group name (e.g. vol, see above). After this is entered, the "To:" line will be automatically filled by Pine. Pine 3.91 does not have "Lcc:" line in rich header mode, so you may not be able to do this trick. Third, the rest of mail composing is done normally. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:22:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19954; Sun, 6 Oct 96 03:22:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA02088 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:20:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from neuron.ato.org.tr ([195.142.130.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA02083 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 03:20:03 -0700 Received: from neuron.ato.org.tr (neuron.ato.org.tr [195.142.130.66]) by neuron.ato.org.tr (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA09602; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:20:04 +0200 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 13:20:04 +0200 (EET) From: "M.Nuri Arda" To: Pine-Info Cc: "M.Nuri ARDA" Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I have just been received your Pine 3.95. tar. z programm, but I am not able to apply my programs in use as Comit, as Hyperterminal and so on. Is it possible to help me for solving this problem. Thanks. M.Nuri ARDA,MD. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:21:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10649; Sun, 6 Oct 96 04:21:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id EAA02842 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:19:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id EAA02837 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 04:19:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9rBv-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 04:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Barnes Subject: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 05:21:55 -0500 Message-Id: <32578842.3ECD@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? Brian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24667; Sun, 6 Oct 96 05:48:19 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id FAA11428 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:46:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id FAA11423 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 05:46:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9sUL-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 05:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: attachment troubles Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 21:13:37 -0700 Message-Id: <325731F1.6221@telis.org> References: <32534D7E.4D28@telis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed Greshko wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > > > I have already done what you suggested, but I did not have any success, > > probably because I don't know what to put in as the download command > > values; I tried local, and home and my local path, either c:\ or the > > current directory I am using (which is the comm program) I get a message > > saying I cannot use a colon, or it just doesn't work. I thought it was a > > UNIX command I needed, but I looked through UNIX for dummies and couldn't > > find the answer. I guess the question is too basic even for that book :) > > Well, your situation is best handled by your local helpdesk. > I say this since we are not aware of your environment. We don't know > what comm SW you are using and we don't know what protocol you are using. > (xmodem, zmodem, kermit, etc) > > Sorry to leave you hanging in the wind....but if you describe > you enivrionment fully there are plenty of folks on this group with > experience in this area. (Much more so than me...) > > Regards, > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C Our provider is Telis, the California State Telemation Project; it is the only provider for our rural mountain area that is not long distance. However, they do not offer any DOS support, only Windows. I have tried, and so have they, but there doesn't seem to be anyone there that understands this problem. When I dial in with Procomm, I choose VT100 or telnet connection. Either one gives us the Lynx or PINE choice and that's all. I see other postings related to this, but I have not been able to find any answers so far here, or at the PINE site in Kansas. Can part of the problem be the version is 3.91? The variables Ed mentioned for upload/download are not available in my config screen. Don't students use their own computers at Universities and run into this problem? Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27213; Sun, 6 Oct 96 10:28:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id KAA06677 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:25:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id KAA06672 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 10:25:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v9wuj-00038jC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 10:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: default editor Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 11:51:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 1 Oct 1996, Clary Harridge wrote: > Can someone please suggest how I can set the default editor to jove? > > I have tried combinations of > > # enable-alternate-editor-cmd > enable-alternate-editor-implicitly > editor=/usr/local/bin/jove > > in my .pinerc without success. > > I can get into jove using ^_ but how do I get it to come up automatically? I use an alternate editor (JOE) with Pine 3.94 and have no problems. However, I do have enable-alternate-editor-cmd set as well as the other two. Based on what I read in the help screens, this should really not make a difference, but it certainly doesn't seem to hurt. Also, it is possible for an installation to set defaults that the user cannot override. I don't know that that is your case, but you could look. (Without checking, I think the file is named something like .pine-conf-fixed .) But it doesn't make much sense for an installation to allow a user to invoke an alternate editor by command but not by default. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30365; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:42:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA10597 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ucsu.Colorado.EDU [128.138.129.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id PAA10591 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:40:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (kanghee@localhost) by ucsu.Colorado.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3/CNS-4.0p) with SMTP id QAA23422 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:40:44 -0600 (MDT) From: LEE KANGHEE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: chain letter? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. My name is kanghee Lee from University of Colorado at Boulder and I am just starting using e-mailing. How's the weather up there? The weather of here, Boulder, CO, is very nice. It's like typical fall. Today, I just got a mail that i have attempted sending chain letter. Unfortunatly, I completely have no idea about that. If I had done something illegal, probably I shouldn't have known about that, so I am sending a question that what the chain letter is and the other sfuff related to chain letter. If you reply to my question, I'll be really appreciated. I'll be looking forward your mail. Thank you. University of Colorado Kanghee Lee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:44:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30465; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:44:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id PAA18555 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id PAA18550 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 15:42:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA1mi-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 15:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 17:16:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3256EB7D.677D@telis.org> On Sat, 5 Oct 1996, Kathleen wrote: > I am also trying to learn how to download my mail from PINE mail. > If I click on export, it does not allow me to save it to my hard drive. > If I go to setup, config, and enter, local instead of remote, it doesn't > work. The host computer (UNIX) only sees my DOS computer as an extension > of itself. [...] > > Can someone tell me what to type in the config setup to allow > downloading/saving to my own computer? One thing you need to be aware of is that, as such, the computer running Un*x and the PC are completely independent machines which happen to be connected to each other with a communications link of some kind and both of which have software programs at eash end of that link which can talk to each other, providing the interfaces to each machine. Now Pine, running on the Un*x machine, knows nothing about your PC. It has never heard about such an animal. However, there are ways for programs on the Un*x box to talk to similar programs on the PC box via the communications interface in order to get a file from Un*x to PC, and fortunately there are ways for Pine to talk to those other programs, thus closing the loop. Unfortunately, it is not always immediately obvious, and depending on the version of Pine, you may well not be able to use the Export command. You did not provide which version of Pine is running on the Un*x machine. That information is very important. I do not recall when the new feature came in, but I know it is present in at least 3.94, which I am using. There is a direct interface between Pine's Export command and a program, such as zmodem, xmodem, or kermit, which can do the real downloading to the PC. Of course, you must have a compatible program running simultantously on the PC. Commonly, it is built in to the PC communications software. If your version is Pine is current, or nearly so, go into Setup and Config and scroll down to the 'download-command' section (or some similar name) and read the online help files. If your version of Pine is older, you can still transmit files directly from Pine. In the configuration, enable the Un*x pipe command. Take this shell script: #!/bin/sh umask 066 trap "rm -f $HOME/tmp/$$download" 0 cat > $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ sz -a $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ rm -f $HOME/tmp/download.$$$ umask 077 and put it in some directory in the PATH. Mark it executable. Then, when you want to download a message from Pine, just enter the pipe symbol (|) and answer the prompt with 'sendz'. (This assumes that zmodem is on the PC and can be automatically invoked. Otherwise you might have to adjust the script some.) Be aware that this script creates a file on the PC with name 'download.nnn' where 'nnn' is the first three digits of the Un*x process number. You might want to shell out to the PC and rename the file if you are going to download several in quick sequence. If this seems a little complicated, well, unfortunately not every single task we sometimes want to do in life is transparently easy. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:14:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30330; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:14:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA10981 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA10976 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA2I8-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mike@net-quest.com (Mike Carlson) Subject: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: 3 Oct 1996 01:33:11 -0700 Message-Id: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I know, another filtering question. :( In my defense, I have looked at all the archives and procmail examples I could find before finally asking here. Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30521; Sun, 6 Oct 96 16:41:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA19225 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:38:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA19220 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:38:24 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:43:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:37:08 +0800 () From: Ed Greshko To: LEE KANGHEE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: chain letter? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, LEE KANGHEE wrote: > My name is kanghee Lee from University of Colorado at Boulder and I am > just starting using e-mailing. > How's the weather up there? The weather here in Taiwan is beautiful this time of year!! > The weather of here, Boulder, CO, is very nice. It's like typical fall. > Today, I just got a mail that i have attempted sending chain letter. > Unfortunatly, I completely have no idea about that. If I had done > something illegal, probably I shouldn't have known about that, so I am > sending a question that what the chain letter is and the other sfuff > related to chain letter. > If you reply to my question, I'll be really appreciated. I'll be looking > forward your mail. Thank you. If you'd like you can send me a copy of what you sent out and I'll let you know what is "wrong" with it. There are two catagories you letter may fall into. One is the "chain-letter" type which proclaims to bring you good luck if you send out copies to 25 of your friends. This seems harmless but many people feel that this can multiply and clog up the network and clutter disk space with "useless email". Then there is the "fast-cash" type. These are the ones which are generally illegal. They are pyramid schemes which promise to make the receipient rich or some such nonsense. (If people stop and think...hey if we "all" do it we'll all be rich!...they would understand how foolish they are to participate.) Of course the only one with a chance of getting "rich" is the originator. Regards, Ed P.S. This message has been brought to you as a public service by the letter "T". ----- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31234; Sun, 6 Oct 96 18:31:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA12651 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA12646 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA27316; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:23 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 18:27:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Carl D. Cravens" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Chinese characters? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Be sure to set charset to something other than us-ascii if you want to enter non-ascii characters... -teg On Fri, 4 Oct 1996, Carl D. Cravens wrote: > I recently upgraded our Pine from 3.91 to 3.95... the upgrade when quite > smoothly and happy with the new features. Except that I broke something > for one of our users... with 3.91, he was able to enter Chinese > double-byte characters, but with this version he is not able to. I can't > seem to figure out how to enable this. (3.91 came pre-compiled with > BSD/OS, so I don't know how that one was done.) > > Is this something that Pine itself supports, and can you help me fix it? > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > Carl D. Cravens Technical Support / Junior Administrator > cravens@southwind.net SouthWind Internet Access, Inc. > http://www.southwind.net/ Wichita: 316-263-7963 > Elsewhere: 1-800-525-7963 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32588; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:53:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA22406 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:51:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA22398 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 20:51:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA6cO-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@chinet.chinet.com (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: 6 Oct 1996 22:29:22 -0500 Message-Id: <539tei$quh@chinet.chinet.com> References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> In-Reply-To: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> In article <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net>, Robert Gonzalez wrote: >Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. >When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. >Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually >editing the file after I download it? [I assume you are downloading from a Unix to a DOS system.] Text files in Unix and DOS use different end-of-line conventions. Unix uses a "New Line" character (same as LF in DOS). DOS (and CP/M) uses 2 characters, a Carriage Return and Line Feed at the end of each line. The Mac uses only a CR. If you use Z-MODEM to download and invoke it from the Unix command line, use the -a switch to automatically change to DOS end-of-line conventions. Thusly: sz -a my.text.file From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00251; Sun, 6 Oct 96 21:03:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA14562 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:01:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA14557 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 21:01:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA6py-00038mC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 20:58 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saper@sgh.waw.pl (Marcin Cieslak) Subject: Re: V3.95 not always repaint Date: 6 Oct 1996 17:02:34 GMT Message-Id: <538ona$etq@onyx.sgh.waw.pl> References: <32525974.6678@suisun.ctd.ornl.gov> >The user ended up with the "index" still on the screen and >the mail headers were missing. Yes, I have the same problem on AIX with pine 3.93. Composing, replying is sometimes difficult. Thankfully, Ctrl-L solves the problem - it clears the screen. > >The user is running DECterm on a DEC3000 running OSF/1 Version 2.1. He >telneted to an AIX 4.1.4 to use pine3.95. I use pine on AIX4.1.4 using all kinds of terminals: xterm, aixterm and dtterm. Also, when "aixterm" is in VT102 mode (allows mouse-click asa command) Extended PC keyboard keys (End, Home, etc.) hang pine session. I have to kill it and continue editing it as an interrupted message. > << Marcin Cieslak // saper@sgh.waw.pl >> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:15:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01110; Sun, 6 Oct 96 22:15:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA23647 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:13:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA23642 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 22:13:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA7te-00038mC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 22:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: error: Who are you? Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 01:01:11 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3258854D.3B3D@ultinet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3258854D.3B3D@ultinet.com> On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, RT wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Solaris 2.4 on Sparc machine and I have problems with pine > 3.95. > > I am able to use pine with no problems. However, some of my users > getting the following error when they try to use pine: > > "Who are you? (Unable to look up login name)" > > What I have notice is that when I use the Unix command id I get > differenet results for the users that have the problems and for myself. > Myself I get the id as well as the user name while my users get the id > number without the username (login name). > > I would appreciate any help. I've had this happen to me too, and the only time it did was when I allowed Pine to create too many .pine-debug# files. After a fourth one was made, Pine didn't know who I was. I have no idea if this has anything to do with that error message, but that's how it happened to me. Try to delete the .pine-debug# files to see if that helps. I now use Pine with the debug level off. -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30394; Sun, 6 Oct 96 23:40:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA16704 for pine-info-out; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id XAA16699 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:37:01 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA10609; Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:36:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 23:36:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Brian Barnes Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all In-Reply-To: <32578842.3ECD@uts.cc.utexas.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Be sure to add all variants of your address to the alt-addresses variable. -teg On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Brian Barnes wrote: > Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when > I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is > rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? > > Brian > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02391; Mon, 7 Oct 96 00:04:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA17172 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA17167 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:02:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vA9d5-00038lC; Sun, 6 Oct 96 23:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harry Slaughter Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 23:38:27 -0700 Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. On 2 Oct 1996, Patrick M. McMillin wrote: > How do I configure my pine to go directly to > inbox upon starting the porgram ? > > > |) > / > /| Patrick M. McMillin > / |__ The University of Texas at Austin > ( (|_ ) patrick-mc@mail.utexas.edu > \_|_/ > J > > -- ~~~^~ `0^0' (* " *) =====ooO====U====Ooo========================= Harry Slaughter @Infoseek Corporation harrys@netgate.net harry@infoseek.com 408.971.0922 408.567.2920 --------------------------------------------- Harry's Homepage: http://www.netgate.net/~harrys Check out the best new engine on the web: .oO() ---> http://ultra.infoseek.com ( ) ()Oo. =======\ (====( )========================== \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29589; Mon, 7 Oct 96 00:12:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA17330 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:09:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from curly.cc.utexas.edu (curly.cc.utexas.edu [128.83.42.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id AAA17323; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 00:09:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (bbarnes@localhost) by curly.cc.utexas.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3/cc-uts-1.13) with SMTP id CAA23276; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:09:49 -0500 (CDT) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:09:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Brian Barnes To: Terry Gray Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 vs 3.91 reply-to-all In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That did it - thanks. Brian | Be sure to add all variants of your address to the alt-addresses variable. | | -teg | | On Sun, 6 Oct 1996, Brian Barnes wrote: | | > Our system recently upgraded pine (as the title would imply) - now when | > I "reply to all" pine includes myself in the carbon copy. This is | > rather annoying, different than 3.91. Is there a way to disable this? | > | > Brian | > | | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28705; Mon, 7 Oct 96 02:35:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id CAA18877 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id CAA18872 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 02:23:02 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Mon, 07 Oct 1996 10:12:15 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA29064; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:22:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 10:20:53 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Jago Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: error: Who are you? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks to me as if you are do not have secure RPC credentials. When you login your UNIX password is found but your network credentials are not, consequently USER is not being set (if you look carefully at the screen during the login process you will see a message on the lines of 'unable to set USER' flash up. It may be that your secure credentials do in fact exist but the passwords are different, most administrators will try to keep the two synchronised so that their users are not troubled by the the 2 login processes (login and keylogin). If you or your systems admin would like help with sorting this out I can help and I have a bunch of scripts to handle NIS+ problems of this nature but I guess you'd better write to me directly as its a Solaris admin issue not a pine one. (Unless there are dozens of Pine users out there with the same problem and want to follow the discussion). Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)468-003-889 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)181-986-5239 Lea Bridge, E5-0AX. | | 044 (0)171-577-2741 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Jago wrote: > On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, RT wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I am using Solaris 2.4 on Sparc machine and I have problems with pine > > 3.95. > > > > I am able to use pine with no problems. However, some of my users > > getting the following error when they try to use pine: > > > > "Who are you? (Unable to look up login name)" > > > > What I have notice is that when I use the Unix command id I get > > differenet results for the users that have the problems and for myself. > > Myself I get the id as well as the user name while my users get the id > > number without the username (login name). > > > > I would appreciate any help. > > I've had this happen to me too, and the only time it did was when I > allowed Pine to create too many .pine-debug# files. After a fourth one > was made, Pine didn't know who I was. I have no idea if this has anything > to do with that error message, but that's how it happened to me. Try to > delete the .pine-debug# files to see if that helps. I now use Pine with > the debug level off. > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { king_s@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc.} > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:53:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03754; Mon, 7 Oct 96 03:53:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id DAA27708 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id DAA27703 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 03:47:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAD94-00038oC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 03:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert mail address lists between mailers Date: 7 Oct 1996 00:12:51 GMT Message-Id: <539hu3$2ns@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora, Netscape, Pine and Elm All possible translations are supported. You can find these at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:04:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05277; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:04:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA22057 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA22052 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 06:52:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAG3f-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 06:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lori Stevens Subject: 2nd International IMAP Meeting Update Date: Fri, 4 Oct 1996 14:34:04 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 2nd International INTERNET MESSAGE ACCESS PROTOCOL Meeting Seattle, Nov 6-8, 1996 Update: Change of date for early registration deadline We have decided to change our early registration deadline to October 9th. This decision was based on many requests to extend our deadline while taking into account that October 6th falls on a Sunday. On October 9th the meeting fee goes from $225.00 to $300.00. See the following URL for meeting details: http://www.washington.edu/imap/meeting.2nd/ At the Westin Hotel, the group rate of $125.00/night (guaranteed until October 6th) also applies to two days before and two days after the meeting. The Westin's 1-800 number may not have complete information about our group rate package so use Seattle reservations at 1-206-728-1000 (hours are 8:00-17:00 PDT). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:16:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27394; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:16:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA00342 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA00337 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:12:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAGMs-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MATHER Subject: Re: HELP :"Out of free storage." Date: 7 Oct 1996 13:15:59 GMT Message-Id: <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <1996Oct4.183732.32128@ludens> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jeno@ludens.elte.hu (Ve'rte'nyi Ga'bor) wrote: > Hello! > > What shall I do? I get such a message when I want to > read my messages in my INBOX folder: > Bug in Pine detected. "Out of free storage". > And it drop me out. > I got some place on my userdisc. > > Thanks > > Gabor V. If you are the system administrator, increase the size of the partition that mail resides on. If not, delete some of your files in your directory, and then delete some mail. As a system administrator myself, I can't stand mail pack rats! Print it out and keep it if it is important! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07189; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:58:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA23069 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA23064 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 07:52:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAH04-00038pC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 07:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: how to install pico? Date: 4 Oct 1996 21:42:51 GMT Message-Id: References: umar1@u.washington.edu (Umar Cheema): > How I can install pico on a server which previously had vi editor? Installation: Get the sources to pine (pico is included) and compile them. > Also can I install emacs too ? Sure. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04974; Mon, 7 Oct 96 09:09:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id JAA24771 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc1.nerc.com (nerc1.nerc.com [205.247.120.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id JAA24766 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 09:00:27 -0700 Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (luomat@nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by nerc1.nerc.com (8.7.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA14941; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:59:44 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:00:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Timothy Luoma Reply-To: Tim Luoma To: MATHER Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP :"Out of free storage." In-Reply-To: <53avqf$eqg@boursy.news.erols.com> Message-Id: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary X-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > If you are the system administrator, increase the size of the partition > that mail resides on. If not, delete some of your files in your > directory, and then delete some mail. As a system administrator myself, > I can't stand mail pack rats! Print it out and keep it if it is > important! When I keep email I do so because I want to be able to reference it later on, which I would much rather do via the Unix file tools (ie grep etc) than flipping through pages and pages of printed out email messages. Who needs more paper in their life? Of course, I also sort my mail into various folders, and keep a minimal amount of messages in my INBOX, so I never have to worry about that OUT OF SPACE message. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13323; Mon, 7 Oct 96 11:30:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA06481 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nyhs.med.cornell.edu (nyhs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.191.16]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06474 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 11:22:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (admin@localhost) by nyhs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA22560; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:59 -0400 id OAA22560; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:59 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Admin User To: Mark Raciborski Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: AIX 4.2 and PINE In-Reply-To: <4va1d8$1iq@tick.cs.wm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, Did you ever get an answer to this question? I noticed something very interesting on my AIX 4.1 box 2 weeks ago myslef. I was originally runing Pine 3.91, 3.94 on a Linux box and will move it over to the AIX host. Well one of the problems was regarding how the sendmail on the Linux (1.2.13) handled headers from my Novell MHS/SMTP gateway. Now on the AIX bow the problem just vanished. So maybe what caused you probelms was the correction to mine. Tony Costa Team Leader End User Support New York Hospital tcosta@nyh.med.cornell.edu On 19 Aug 1996, Mark Raciborski wrote: > We upgraded from AIX 3.2.55 to AIX 4.2. This release runs a new SMTP/SENDMAIL. > PINE 3.89, 3.85, and 3.91 along with Eudora all hang when you try to send > Email. Anyone seen this problem or know what is wrong? thanks, > mark@mail.wm.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10174; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:07:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id MAA29976 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay3.UU.NET (relay3.UU.NET [192.48.96.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id MAA29969 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 12:02:12 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay3.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbkky24079; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:02:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:02:11 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA844714690 Mon, 07 Oct 96 11:58:10 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 11:58:10 Message-Id: <9609078447.AA844714690@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Pine on AIX UNIX v4.1 I was finally able to get a good compile of Pine on my AIX 4.1 machine, but only after some rather serious alteration of several Pine source files. Somehow, I doubt that I should have done this, but since this is (for now at least) a test machine ... Anyway, the problem appears to be related to the way comments in some source files are handled. At least that's what the "C" compiler seemed to be complaining about. For example, in the /pine3.95/pine/osdep/os-a41.h file, several comment lines appear like this: /* #include /* BSD-based systems */ As far as I understand comment lines in "C" source code, the delimiters are the /* and */ sequences. However, in many lines like the one above, two left-hand delimiters occur prior to a single right-hand one. The only way I was able to get Pine to properly "build" (compile) was to alter these comments by removing the second left-hand delimiter. After making this change, the compiles seemed to go without a problem. However, I noticed that the file sizes ended up dramatically different on AIX 4.1 compared to AIX 3.2.5. For example, after compiling all programs on AIX 3.2.5, the binary files created were: $ ls -l total 21768 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1717607 Sep 8 18:34 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 1557523 Sep 8 18:34 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 861076 Sep 8 18:34 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 858637 Sep 8 18:34 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root sys 6137198 Sep 8 18:34 pine $ but on the AIX 4.1 system, the same binary files looked like this: $ ls -l total 10936 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1054577 Oct 5 07:42 imapd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 1013146 Oct 5 07:42 mtest -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 291237 Oct 5 07:42 pico -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 289062 Oct 5 07:42 pilot -rwxr-xr-x 1 root audit 2938894 Oct 5 07:42 pine $ Despite the differences in file sizes, Pine on the AIX 4.1 system seems to work just fine. Hmmmm. My questions are: 1. If alteration of the source code comment lines is NOT the proper way to get around the compilation failures, what is the proper method? 2. If the resulting binary files are not the proper sizes, what happened? Thank you for any comments you may have. - Michael ------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael Wright, Systems Analyst email: msw@yakima.com Yakima Products, Inc. Ph: 707-826-8175 P.O. Box 4899, Arcata, CA 95521 (USA) Fx: 707-826-8149 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:12:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15798; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:12:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA09619 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:08:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA09614 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:08:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vALpZ-00038qC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: How to create lists of addresses? Date: 4 Oct 1996 18:42:36 GMT Message-Id: <533lqs$1t0@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Diana Zhang Wobus, CHPDM, UMBC wrote: >Even since Pine was updated (about a month or so ago at my site), I can no >longer create separate lists of addresses where I group addresses. The >list options that was on the older version of Pine somehow is not there >anymore. What happened and how do I create lists? --Diana You now use the same commands to handle lists as to handle ordinary aliases, except that you give more than one address in the (new) alias editing screen. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17420; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:53:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA02950 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from felix.dircon.co.uk (felix.dircon.co.uk [193.128.224.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA02945 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:49:08 -0700 Received: by felix.dircon.co.uk id AA24877 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:35:35 +0100 Received: from gw2-151.pool.dircon.co.uk(194.112.35.151) by amnesiac via smap (V1.3) id sma024868; Mon Oct 7 21:35:08 1996 Message-Id: <32596965.858@dircon.co.uk> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 1996 21:34:45 +0100 From: CyberSlut Reply-To: cybrslut@dircon.co.uk Organization: CyberSlut X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hia, Sorry to trouble you, but I need serious help. Although this doesn't revolve around what you specialise in, I hope you can help me. Problem: Since installing Duke Nukem3d, Duke 2, and the build files, my screen has gone very dark in both DOS, and Win95. Is there a command I can use to rectify this? Please Help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17449; Mon, 7 Oct 96 14:03:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA10970 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:58:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA10965 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAMf5-00038tC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Problem with 'personal name'. Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:56:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > : what others see when they look at my message in the index is my personal > : name and the subject of the message. This time, after posting, my > : personal name did not appear. Instead, it said, "To: 'newsgroup name'" > : and the subject. > > This is actually only within pine. Your actual message shows up with > "butterfly." What you are seeing is a new feature allowing you to > easily identify messages you have sent. The idea is that you want to > know where you sent your messages. Wow - revelation. I see messages from others, however, as "From: Some Guy ", whereas yours, butterfly's, and mine are simply 'from' our addresses.. I'd really like to have my name preceding my address, if that's possible. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 14:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04845; Mon, 7 Oct 96 14:03:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA03142 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:56:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA03137 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:56:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAMc5-00038qC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com Subject: automatic uuencoding? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 11:37:38 GMT Are there any neat solutions for having pine automatically uuencode and include in the text a binary file, rather than having to send it as an attachment to an unknown foreign mailer? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22779; Mon, 7 Oct 96 17:13:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08387 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08381 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 17:09:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAPds-00038sC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 17:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 Date: 4 Oct 1996 19:02:40 GMT Message-Id: <533n0g$27g@due.unit.no> References: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> In article , Paul O Bartlett wrote: >Whether you will actually see accented ISO letters depends on >your display hardware. Typing in the letters should not be a problem >if you can display them. A reasonable assumption, but not always correct. Often, I have been able to view 8-bit characters without further ado, but I have had to set terminal attributes in order to type them. I assume this is due to programs following the "be conservative in what you send, but liberal in what you accept" adage. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10933; Mon, 7 Oct 96 18:37:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA18482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.22]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id SAA18477 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 18:34:01 -0700 Received: from ubppp-039.ppp-net.buffalo.edu (ubppp-039.ppp-net.buffalo.edu [128.205.222.103]) by orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA03996 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:33:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199610080133.VAA03996@orichalc.acsu.buffalo.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Oct 96 21:39:02 -0700 From: "Thomas A. Zabawa" X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; U; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pc pine attachments Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii When I attach a file from a floppy, I am prompted to create a sentmail folder. However the folder sentmail already exists. If I answer yes, the message is aborted. If I answer No, the header changes to FCC: sentmail. I then delete the sentmail header and the attachment is sent successfully. However, when I go to my folders, my savemail and sentmail folder no longer exist. When I exit PC Pine and restart, the folders Inbox, savemail and sentmail are there again. It seems that when I send attachments, my folders are erased for some reason. What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:22:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16663; Mon, 7 Oct 96 20:22:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA12403 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:12:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA12397 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:12:39 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:18:01 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:09:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: pre authentication----more forgiving? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Just want to make a note here..... I'm running pine3.95 under Solaris with tcsh. I've some entries in my .login and .cshrc files which include a couple of stty commands. They "seem" to be needed when I'm using some telnet clients from my PC. I say "seem" since I'll have to go back an recheck.... Anyway, if an rsh is done a system on the network to the system with my INBOX I will always get: stty: : Invalid argument Whatever command I enter in the rsh will work fine..... So, I get the following with imapd: hobbes[49]% rsh calvin /etc/rimapd stty: : Invalid argument * PREAUTH calvin.twntpe.cdc.com IMAP4 Service 8.3(140) at Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:57:15 +0800 (GMT) (Report problems in this server to MRC@CAC.Washington.EDU) This will cause pine to consider this a failure and ask me for my username/pw. Removing the stty commands fixes the problem. Maybe the pre-authentication process can be a bit more forgiving? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12840; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:03:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA13130 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:55:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA13125 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 20:55:18 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04547; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:55:14 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma004295; Mon Oct 7 23:48:19 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA27973; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:53:17 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA23054; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:49:21 EDT Received: from wizard.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA10867; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:32 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by wizard.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA29941; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:31 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA12869; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:29 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:48:29 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pre authentication----more forgiving? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > Hi, > > Just want to make a note here..... > > I'm running pine3.95 under Solaris with tcsh. I've some entries > in my .login and .cshrc files which include a couple of stty commands. > They "seem" to be needed when I'm using some telnet clients from my > PC. I say "seem" since I'll have to go back an recheck.... > > Anyway, if an rsh is done a system on the network to the system > with my INBOX I will always get: > > stty: : Invalid argument > This is because your trying to execute an stty command (via .cshrc or .login) but there is no tty! You should move these stty commands into .login and wrap them in something like: if ($?prompt) then stty ... stty ... endif I'm not sure about the exact syntax because I do not use tcsh (and the prompt may need to be caps). This is surely in the tcsh man page. As far as other shells go (i.e. POSIX-like shells), htis test should suffice: if `tty -s`;then stty ... stty ... fi > > This will cause pine to consider this a failure and ask me for > my username/pw. Removing the stty commands fixes the problem. Maybe > the pre-authentication process can be a bit more forgiving? > This breaks rdist on some systems as well, but the rpeauthentication process doesn't need to be more forgiving, the shell needs to be configured correctly (via .profile, or in your case .login). Hope this helps. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 011-81-3-3437-7967 - Tokyo, Japan -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17066; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:10:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA21202 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA21191 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:03:10 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 12:08:33 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:59:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Richard G. Roberto" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pre authentication----more forgiving? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Oct 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: > Hope this helps. Yes, it helps...and as time permits I'll work on fixing "my" problem. So, far this is the only "problem" I've had with my setup so you can understand that there had been no incentive to find a solution. :-) Thanks, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10120; Mon, 7 Oct 96 21:44:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA13770 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:36:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mirage.irdu.nus.sg (mirage.irdu.nus.sg [137.132.19.24]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id VAA13758 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 21:36:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (aaron@localhost) by mirage.irdu.nus.sg (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA29826 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:36:05 +0800 (SGT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:36:05 +0800 (SGT) From: Aaron Aw X-Sender: aaron@mirage Reply-To: Aaron Aw To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Adding Reply-To in Outmail.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, Could someone tell me how I could configure pine3.95 in order that all the mail that is sent includes a reply-to that contains a domain name other than server that I'm currently using. I'm intending to use a mail forwarding service eg. pobox.com I cannot change the domain name in unix pine as it has been set by the sys admin. Is there any filter program out there that does this? Thanks! Just Me, Aaron Aw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- JavaTech Development Group, Internet R&D Unit Computer Center, National University of Singapore. email: aaron@irdu.nus.sg http://irdu.nus.sg/~aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28441; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:13:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA22191 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:05:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id WAA22186 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:05:47 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbkmm25276; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:05:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19845; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:07:13 -0300 Received: from kubbar by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA25175; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:05:25 -0300 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:35:28 +0330 (IST) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@kubbar To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi , i wonder is there on pine a filter program i mean can i create a special folder just for the pine-ifo i mean when any email wi get from pine-info@cacwashington.edu this email will go to incoming folder i will name it pine then all emails that i will get from this list it will go that incoming folder can i do that ????? *********************************************************************** *** ** Omar Butaiban (9411/1826) *** P.O Box 7532,salmiya ** *************************** *** Kuwait 22086 ** college of engineering *** ** Computer Engineering *** butaiban@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ** Kuwait University *** ** *** ** *********************************************************************** "Computer: hour upon hour of complexity for a moment of simplicity" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28522; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:28:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA14617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA14612 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:19:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAUWf-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: 8 Oct 1996 02:51:10 GMT Message-Id: <53cfiu$90m@dns.ktb.net> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> Kathleen (kathleen@telis.org) wrote: | > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and | > > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command | > > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many | > > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word | > > processor. | | My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot | access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our | own hard drives from within Pine itself? Doesn't sound unreasonable, does it? Try emailing help@telis.org and ask how to do it. MAYBE they'll tell you... Crude way is to do a screen capture with your terminal software (procomm does this with alt-f1) while you scroll the file. Does the menu allow this? I had to do that for about a year because the lousy provider just couldn't set up the system to support zmodem -- WHICH IS THE STANDARD OF THE INDUSTRY, FOR GOD'S SAKE! If you want to download WordPerfect files, you will have to use uuencode (if they offer this) to translate it into printable characters, do the scroll thing, and then uudecode (you will need the uudecode.exe program on your hard disk -- god knows how you're going to get it unless somebody can give it to you on diskette) it when it gets to your hard disk. This is obviously an awfully cumbersome way to do things. Best thing to do is bug your provider. If they simply don't offer any downloading capabilities, you might use lynx to check out http://www.thelist.com which lists ISPs by state, area code, etc., and find somebody who is more reasonable. Hang in there, things *will* get better :) Bev bashley@ktb.net **************************************** My computer doesn't have to be friendly; civil is entirely sufficient. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15404; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:51:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA22894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA22889 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:49:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAUzN-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Carriage return in PICO Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:52:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> On 6 Oct 1996, Robert Gonzalez wrote: > Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. > > When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. > > Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually > editing the file after I download it? This could possibly be a result of incompatible settings in the two different communications programs you are using for the download -- one program running on your "host" (where your textfile is) and one on your "desktop" (where you are trying to download to). A lot of the *good* dekstop communications programs have the ability to adjust the lineends on the fly during transmission and reception. Check your user's manual. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29354; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:58:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id WAA15165 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id WAA15160 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 22:55:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAV1O-00038uC; Mon, 7 Oct 96 22:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfhw@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Laurie Fuchs) Subject: has mail been read? Date: 8 Oct 1996 03:22:46 GMT Message-Id: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. -- Laurie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29550; Mon, 7 Oct 96 23:07:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA15324 for pine-info-out; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:05:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA15309 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 1996 23:05:46 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 14:11:08 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 14:02:15 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Aaron Aw Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Adding Reply-To in Outmail.. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Aaron Aw wrote: > Could someone tell me how I could configure pine3.95 in order that > all the mail that is sent includes a reply-to that contains a domain name > other than server that I'm currently using. I'm intending to use a mail > forwarding service eg. pobox.com > I cannot change the domain name in unix pine as it has been set by > the sys admin. Is there any filter program out there that does this? > Thanks! Ooooppps....you didn't do "Information Research" did you???? Go to Setup/Config...... OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. Good Luck..... Ed P.S. This public service announcement has been brought to you by the letter Q and the number 7. (BTW, the number 5 isn't talking to me since it worked with T to form yesterday's answer but received no credit.) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:19:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30429; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:19:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA24729 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA24724 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAXF6-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: 8 Oct 1996 07:21:47 GMT Message-Id: References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <5389el$9o5@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >: Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. > >Or type "pine -i" from the command line > Or put the following line into your .login -file: alias pi 'pine -i' Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine you get the main menu in normal fashion. -- Holger.Lillqvist@Helsinki.Fi University of Helsinki * Nordica / Institute of literature From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:40:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30638; Tue, 8 Oct 96 01:40:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA25016 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA25011 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 01:37:31 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Oct 96 16:42:53 +0800 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:34:00 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Oct 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > >: Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. > > > >Or type "pine -i" from the command line > > > Or put the following line into your .login -file: > alias pi 'pine -i' > Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine > you get the main menu in normal fashion. Hummmm, will "alias" work with all shells? I think not.... Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32153; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:43:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA20970 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:40:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA20965 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAcLm-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? Date: Tue, 08 Oct 1996 06:06:25 +0200 Message-Id: <3259D341.3F54@dit.ou.dk> References: <52u2lf$16i@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <5389el$9o5@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve Howie wrote: >=20 > Harry Slaughter wrote: > : Put an "i" in your "initial-keystrokes-list" in your configuration. >=20 > Or type "pine -i" from the command line When converting from elm to pine, I made an alias for elm as "pine -i". Worked like a charm, and it is now muscle memory only. As an added benefit it is shorter and faster to type :-) -- Thorbj=F8rn Ravn Andersen "...and...Tubular Bells!" http://www.dit.ou.dk/~ravn From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20882; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:50:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id GAA28703 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:45:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id GAA28698 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 06:45:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAcQY-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 06:42 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: "Move read messages?" prompt Date: Fri, 04 Oct 1996 18:11:10 GMT Message-Id: <533jrf$qvr@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: In your Pine configuration, make sure that: 1. the "read-message-folder" variable is "" and 2. the "auto-move-read-msgs" option is not checked Exiting Pine will leave all mail, read or unread, in the inbox without asking. -Ram -- Ramanuj Basu, Audience Services Coordinator & PC Systems Manager Caltech Public Events, Mail Code 332-92, Pasadena, CA 91125 phone: 818-395-3667 - fax: 818-795-1378 - http://www.caltech.edu/~tickets/ On Thu, 3 Oct 1996 00:42:39 GMT, ekelly@world.std.com (Emily H Kelly) wrote: >Whenever I quit Pine with messages still in my inbox, I receive the prompt >asking, "Move messages to "read-messages"?" Now I know how to configure >Pine to move the messages without prompting; I also know how to configure >Pine to move the messages to the folder of my choice rather than the >default. What I haven't been able to figure out is how to configure Pine >either to quit prompting me altogether, or to offer the prompt with a >default reply "no" (so I could just through it without affecting >my mail). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30739; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:56:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA29677 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA29672 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAdOn-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Tse" Subject: Re: How to send mail to a GROUP and use .sig Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 14:04:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <52tl1d$2e1@ustsu10.ust.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 2 Oct 1996, Shum Wai Leung wrote: > As title, I want to know to use send mail to a group of people. As > I know that in Unix mail, we can creat a file to make this function. But > what can I do in Unix Pine. Moreover I want to attach .sig in my mail. > Should I creat a file .sig in my home directory ? Make it ".signature" instead of ".sig" ... J. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00746; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:59:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id HAA22058 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id HAA22053 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:51:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAdOh-00038uC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 07:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gary Starr Subject: Must See!! 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:33:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28927; Tue, 8 Oct 96 08:33:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id IAA22782 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:29:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id IAA22776 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 08:29:01 -0700 Received: from necro.interl.net (root@pm2-adr21.interl.net [205.244.161.21]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA30450 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA09063 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 10:27:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: pine-info Subject: Re: How to get INBOX on starting ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Or put the following line into your .login -file: > > alias pi 'pine -i' > > Then, with pi (or whatever) you get directly into your inbox, with pine > > you get the main menu in normal fashion. > > Hummmm, will "alias" work with all shells? I think not.... Neither does a .login file (ie. bash uses .bash_profile)... but it does support "alias". Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMlpyyiGB07hAGnFhAQF45wQA8TUEZRHjv+A3yfRsHPqzbald1q2oYT0F WxV7malsThksifKabqOSrZeBF2Kzn+CayS5yg4CYevuFw+igBZeysgU8LoUgQZE3 OpC8FcA/F7gxEE22aOx0o8T/rH7ozm6yVNJ7FLw0lc9Rtv+Vr0CQAgpfuQw55L9R rqbeJSIVgRI= =7mvM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= E-mail : jasoneng@usa.net, jasoneng@interl.net Misc Links : http://jfs.home.ml.org/ Linux Links : http://necro.home.ml.org/ PGP Key : send e-mail with subject: get-pgp-key =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Linux: because a PC is a terrible thing to waste From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07422; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:17:33 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA27675 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:11:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA27670 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:11:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAgVg-00038vC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gonzo@cyberenet.net (Robert Gonzalez) Subject: Carriage return in PICO Date: 6 Oct 1996 20:14:10 GMT Message-Id: <5393ui$h1n@news.cyberenet.net> Pico doesn't seem to use character 13 for end of line. When I download a textfile, everything is all run together. Does anyone know how to deal with this problem other than manually editing the file after I download it? Robert J. Gonzalez gonzo@cyberenet.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 12:07:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07309; Tue, 8 Oct 96 12:07:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id LAA06365 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id LAA06359 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:56:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAhCm-00038wC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 11:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kathleen Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 10:10:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3257E7E9.7115@telis.org> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J. Tse wrote: > > On 1 Oct 1996, Consumers Advantage wrote: > > > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter > > PINE and am in v3.94. > > > > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and > > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command > > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. In fact, I have many > > saved files out there and need to know how to get to them with my word > > processor. > > If your Shell account is on UNIX, try entering "sz filename" at the UNIX > prompt --- this command should start the transfer of the file from the > Shell account to your computer. > Hope this helps. > > J. Tse My provider only lets us have Pine or Lynx through a menu, we cannot access the UNIX prompt. Somehow there must be a way to get mail onto our own hard drives from within Pine itself? Kathleen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09922; Tue, 8 Oct 96 13:21:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA08564 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sundance.usd.edu (sundance.usd.edu [192.55.228.42]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA08559 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:14:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (clwillia@localhost) by sundance.usd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00733 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:12:50 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: sundance.usd.edu: clwillia owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:12:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Corey L Williams X-Sender: clwillia@sundance Reply-To: Corey L Williams To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear help, I am trying to find a persons e-mail address at the University of Creighton in Omaha, Nebraska. I have tried the finger command and have been unsuccessful. I was wondering if there was some sort of compatability problem or maybe I was using the wrong command to search for this address. If there is some help you can give me in my search for this e-mail address I would certainly appreciate it. Corey Williams From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02428; Tue, 8 Oct 96 13:21:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id NAA01166 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu (mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu [199.17.81.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id NAA01152 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 13:15:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/09Oct95-1257PM) id AA25267; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:16:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:16:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Rebecca Kapsner To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Rebecca Kapsner Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get into my address book. It tells me Permission Denied. What should I do? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01422; Tue, 8 Oct 96 16:09:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id QAA05933 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:06:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id QAA05928 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 16:06:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAl7f-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 15:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: has mail been read? Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 07:54:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <53che6$itl@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> On 8 Oct 1996, Laurie Fuchs wrote: > Is there anyway to know whether or not mail I have sent has been read or > not? Thanks to anyone that has any information. In general, NO. There are some proprietary mail systems which will do this, but there simply is no way to do it across the Internet. I'm afraid you're out of luck. Sorry. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17019; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:30:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA15763 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA15758 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:26:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAmPz-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: Re: How do I save to a file? Date: 5 Oct 1996 07:38:30 GMT Message-Id: <53539m$52t@matterhorn.pinn.net> References: <52rj83$rao@fnord.dfw.net> : > I access my ISP through a Shell account and VT100 emulation. I then enter : > PINE and am in v3.94. : > : > When someone has sent me an attached file in Word or WodPerfect format and : > I want to save it to my hard drive to read, what do I do? The save command : > appears to save it in a directory on my ISP's system. First, if you are using Procomm Plus or similar comm program then: {just download the file using Zmodem as usual} otherwise: sz -b {filename} will start the downloading process if you want to start at the unix shell prompt. one thing though: when you get these and view them in WP 5.1 for DOS {example}, you may have to view it and/or save the file as DOS text instead of the way they came downloaded as you might find a bunch of cntrl codes throughout. Thomas S. Cole "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:38:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17218; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:38:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id RAA08290 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id RAA08285 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:36:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAmZi-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 17:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeno@ludens.elte.hu (Ve'rte'nyi Ga'bor) Subject: HELP :"Out of free storage." Message-Id: <1996Oct4.183732.32128@ludens> Date: 4 Oct 96 18:37:32 +0100 Hello! What shall I do? I get such a message when I want to read my messages in my INBOX folder: Bug in Pine detected. "Out of free storage". And it drop me out. I got some place on my userdisc. Thanks Gabor V. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18403; Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:46:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id SAA17206 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:41:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id SAA17201 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 18:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAnYP-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 18:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dr@ripco.com (David Richards) Subject: Re: X-Authentication-Warning ... Date: 8 Oct 1996 00:20:34 GMT Message-Id: <53c6oi$m78$1@code.ripco.com> References: In article , Abhay Roy wrote: >Any clues on this warning message ? I tried running the binary with my uid, >and setuid (with root ownership). Still the same .. > >From akr@cisco.com Mon Oct 7 15:11:16 1996 >X-Authentication-Warning: rabhay-ss20.cisco.com: akr owned process doing -bs >Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 15:09:50 -0700 (PDT) >From: Abhay Roy >To: Abhay Roy >Subject: test . >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I believe the authentication warning is coming from the mail daemon, not Pine. '-bs' as an option to sendmail, etc tells it to accept a message using SMTP protocol. Presumably the Pine mailer is invoking sendmail to deliver the message, and something in the mailer configuration thinks this is suspicious and adds this header. -- David Richards Ripco, since Nineteen-Eighty-Three My opinions are my own, Public Access in Chicago But they are available for rental Shell/SLIP/PPP/UUCP/ISDN/Leased dr@ripco.com (312) 665-0065 !Free Usenet/E-Mail! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:09:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18459; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:09:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA10076 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:06:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA10071 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:06:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAnyV-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic uuencoding? Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 16:49:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 6 Oct 1996 zach@world.std.com wrote: > Are there any neat solutions for having pine automatically uuencode and > include in the text a binary file, rather than having to send it as an > attachment to an unknown foreign mailer? Automatically? Not that I can recall. If you are using the alternate editor feature, some editors might have the ability to run a command or script which you would still have to invoke but which would uuencode the file in the current editor workspace. If such a thing is doable, it would depend totally on what editor you might be using. Unless you are talking about high volume, I have not found it all that onerous to uuencode a file offline and then read it into the composer or editor. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:35:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05556; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:35:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id TAA18191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id TAA18186 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 19:31:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAoOY-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 19:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Newsreader NNTP XOVER command Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 17:46:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 8 Oct 1996, Ron Bickers wrote: > I use pine as a newsreader and it's pretty slow to sort the articles. I > just realized it uses the HEAD command instead of something like XOVER. > Are there any plans to "fix" this. I'm sure the performance gain would be > significant. Yes. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:34:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17606; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:34:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA11339 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:32:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA11334 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:32:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vApHV-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:26:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <530guu$3a7@cri.ens-lyon.fr> On 3 Oct 1996, David Monniaux wrote: > I am on a Unix (Sun/Solaris) system, running X and CDE, if that > matters. I like Pine, but it has some problem : it seems to > believe I've got an US_ASCII display : it sometimes complains > about displaying ISO-8859-1 text on such a display. More over, > it refuses accentuated characters typed on the keyboard. > This looks abnormal : my others applications, even the shells, > accept accentuated characters under ISO-8859-1. There's > probably some misconfiguration somewhere, but I can't find where !? Assuming your version of Pine is recent enough, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to the character-set variable and set it to ISO-8859-1. This will at least get rid of the annoying message. Whether you will actually see accented ISO letters depends on your display hardware. Typing in the letters should not be a problem if you can display them. Are you using the built-in composer? If so, I will have to let someone else address that. I have been using the alternate editor feature for so long that I have forgotten a lot about the composer. My editor allows me to enter accented letters, and Pine accepts them without complaint. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:38:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19297; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:38:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA19176 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id UAA19171 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:37:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vApMG-00038TC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How can I filter *existing* email? Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:28:08 -0400 Message-Id: References: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <52vto7$e7q@basecamp1.net-quest.com> On 3 Oct 1996, Mike Carlson wrote: > I know, another filtering question. :( In my defense, I have looked > at all the archives and procmail examples I could find before finally > asking here. > > Now with that out of the way...Is there any way to take one huge email > box and split it into various folders? I've managed to get procmail going > just fine with new mail, but this old stuff just hangs out in one big blob. Somebody sent me the following shell script for rerunning procmail against the Inbox. I have never used it and cannot vouch for it. Use and/or adapt at your own risk. #!/bin/sh umask 077 lockfile -l3600 $HOME/.newmail.lock lockfile -l3600 -ml cat /usr/spool/mail/$LOGNAME >>$HOME/.newmail && cat /dev/null >/usr/mail/$LOGNAME lockfile -mu formail -s procmail <$HOME/.newmail rm -f $HOME/.newmail $HOME/.newmail.lock exit 0 > Also, since the folders already contain new email, is there a way to have > it arrange them in the right date order? (Thought I'd ask while I was at it.) I don't know about this last one. (By the way, these really weren't Pine questions for this Pine newsgroup. There is a procmail mailing list for questions like these.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18979; Tue, 8 Oct 96 20:42:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id UAA11497 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:40:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.execpc.com (mailgate.execpc.com [169.207.16.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with ESMTP id UAA11492 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 20:40:20 -0700 Received: from earth.execpc.com (holmer@earth [169.207.16.1]) by mailgate.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7.5) with ESMTP id WAA06642 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:58 -0500 Received: from localhost (holmer@localhost) by earth.execpc.com (8.7.6/8.7) with SMTP id WAA25293 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:17 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 22:40:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Eric Holm X-Sender: holmer@earth To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Zmodem upload command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to use Zmodem/rz to upload messages from my local machine into Pine, but I don't know the proper rz command line to use for for setting the PINE 'upload-command' and 'upload-command-prefix' configuration options. 'Rz/sz' documentation has been elusive. My SUN server is using PINE 3.95; I don't know the version of rz. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17060; Tue, 8 Oct 96 21:24:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id VAA12108 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:22:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id VAA12103 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:22:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAq5I-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 21:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: UNIX to PC Date: Thu, 3 Oct 1996 20:27:43 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5317ev$5ih@rain.psg.com> On 3 Oct 1996, John Mellon wrote: > Is there any simple way to transfer all of the files from an INTEL based > UNIX operating system to a DOS/Windows operating system? I know nothing > about UNIX but I need to access the files on a UNIX machine. Any help > or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Your question has nothing to do with Pine as such, which is what this newsgroup is all about. If you don't get any useful answers, I would suggest that you try one of the Unix newsgroups. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10997; Tue, 8 Oct 96 23:49:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id XAA22046 for pine-info-out; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:47:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id XAA22041 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:47:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAsMR-00038BC; Tue, 8 Oct 96 23:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan and Tina Subject: A question about folders? Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:46:02 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ]Can anyone tell me if it is possible to have pine separate out mail such that if you subscribe to several lists, they can be sorted into separate folders? I know this already happens with news groups, but I was wondering if it can be done with email. thaqnks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:10:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22054; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:10:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA14701 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:07:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA14696 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:07:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAsdY-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: How to display header? Date: 7 Oct 1996 15:44:59 GMT Message-Id: <53b8hr$itt@hermes.acs.unt.edu> How can I display the whole "technical" header using Pine3.95? With "technical" header I mean all the info that shows received by machine.com at that time and so forth. Thank you -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:55:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22038; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:55:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id AAA22966 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:52:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id AAA22961 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 00:52:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtOm-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 00:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: .forward filter? Date: 7 Oct 1996 10:48:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Michael Darius writes: >I am going through an ISP who is offering me a virtual hosting system. >In turn, anything@alliedproductions.com is funneled to one account. >I have been trying to make a filter to be able to make it so that if >it says a specific user@alliedproductions.com then it will be forwarded >to their email address... This is one of the most frequently asked questions on the procmail mailing list. I suggest you look at the procmail mailing list archives, which are available through either of these: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/procmail/ http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/procmail/ (mirror of above) I think the best solution is if you can get your ISP to insert a X-Envelope header, which you can use to filter the messages. The problem is that when a user is Bcc'd you won't be able to tell who it was intended for (unless the user's address shows up in one of the Received headers but this doesn't always happen). Good luck and please let us know if you find a good solution. -Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22902; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:17:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA15543 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:13:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15538 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:13:15 -0700 From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Oct 96 16:18:36 +0800 Date: 09 Oct 1996 08:12:08 GMT Subject: Re: Pine and X.500 directory. To: johnj@gdb.org, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <325b5fdc51e2002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> In article you wrote: > Our project is looking at using an X.500 server to simplify sending > email (easy to find a user over several different lans etc.) > > I was wondering how a pine user would take advantage of the availabilty > of the X.500 server? > > Would the global addressbook be re-loaded from the server, or can > searching an addressbook (^T) in compose mode quickly access such > a service? At the moment you'd have to do a directory sync between the X.500 directory and the global addressbook. Currently pine does not support LDAP, ph, or other protocols which could directly interface with X.500. I'm not sure what the plans are....but I believe pine4.0 will eventually support IMSP. If I'm not mistaken...and I could be...IMSP could be linked with an X.500 directory to provide address information. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:19:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22864; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:19:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA15628 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA15623 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:17:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtlq-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:13 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: source code identification Date: 5 Oct 1996 19:57:01 GMT Message-Id: <536eid$8it@ccshst05.uoguelph.ca> We have a requirement to make a small local mod to the Pine3.95 code (Unix), and I need help in identifying exactly where the mod should be placed. When composing a message and after the To: and/or CC: or BCC: fields have been filled in, the user presses and these fields are all reformatted and tidied up. We'd like to make a call to try to resolve any unqualified local recipient addresses (i.e. nothing after the "@") before the message is sent off to sendmail, and flash a warning in the recipient is not a valid local user (forget about aliases for now, that's a different story :)). So we need to know which module (pine, pico etc) you are in at that point. Writing the mod itself is relatively trivial - just need the location. The reason we need to do this - lots of users take it upon themselves to keep "mailing lists" of student userids. These get out of date very quickly as you might imagine. Passing off unresolved invalid addresses to sendmail causes an ugly processing overhead when it looks in NIS to resolve the recipients address. Thanks for any hints, Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22716; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:30:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) id BAA23461 for pine-info-out; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:27:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.09/8.7.3+UW96.10) with SMTP id BAA23456 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 1996 01:27:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vAtwC-00038BC; Wed, 9 Oct 96 01:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Anthony Towns Subject: PGP & Pine -- another solution? Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 18:04:16 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi All, I've seen a few messages about Pine and PGP integration on this newsgroup, and most of the solutions proferred suggest using a short shell script as a filter or an alternate editor. That seems somewhat of a pain to me: you either have to include your passphrase in the script, or as an environment variable, or you have to retype it all the time. I've got a slightly different solution, which uses Richard Gooch's PGPsendmail package (which is a Unix only thing, AFAIK). pgpsendmail includes a program called pgpdaemon which sets up some named pipes and, after you've sent it your passphrase, signs, and decrypts mail for you. I've written some extra programs (to go with Mr Gooch's pgppipe which decrypts mail), namely pgpsign (which clearsigns stdin to stdout) and pgpencrypt (which encrypts and signs stdin to stdout). With some fairly trivial filters, pine and pgp fit together transparently. Encrypted messages get automagically decrypted, signed messages get a validity segment stuck on the bottom, and any mail I send gets automatically signed or encrypted.