From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 02:36:31 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29469; Sun, 1 Sep 96 02:36:29 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA24818 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA24813 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 02:33:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0ux8rl-00038BC; Sun, 1 Sep 96 02:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: del x B Subject: Question regarding Headers Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:07:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I'm running Pine 3.9.1 on AIX 3 for IBM risc/6000. anyway, is there anyway way for pine to display the "Message-ID" in the header? if i need that sort of information, i usually have to use regular 'mail' or "more" the mail file. Thanks. r. vigil vigilr@rpi.edu || http://www.rpi.edu/~vigilr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 05:12:58 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00575; Sun, 1 Sep 96 05:12:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA03663 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:10:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from eram.esi.com.au (eram.esi.com.au [192.84.230.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA03658 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 05:10:30 -0700 Received: from eram.esi.com.au (johne@eram.esi.com.au [192.84.230.33]) by eram.esi.com.au (8.6.12/ESI-HUB-2.0) with SMTP id WAA03905 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:11:03 +1000 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 22:11:02 +1000 (EST) From: John Egan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII index From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 17:03:09 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 17:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04547; Sun, 1 Sep 96 17:03:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA11576 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:56:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns1.tstt.net.tt (ns1.tstt.net.tt [196.3.132.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA11571 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 16:56:30 -0700 Received: from bamboozled (cuscon23.tstt.net.tt [196.3.132.117]) by ns1.tstt.net.tt (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15419 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 19:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <322A21BA.3362@tstt.net.tt> Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 19:52:26 -0400 From: Kevin Blackman X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b8Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine news passwd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . My newserver requires authenitcation. Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to access the server. Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? If not what version of pine does ? -Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 1 21:36:41 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08089; Sun, 1 Sep 96 21:36:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA14707 for pine-info-out; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:32:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA14701 for ; Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:32:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxQc5-00038BC; Sun, 1 Sep 96 21:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Greg Baker Subject: Re: HELP? Source Code req'd for email app Message-Id: <853f11tvk2.fsf@walleroo.rp.CSIRO.AU> References: <508o1f$3p8_002@fan.net.au> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 04:01:01 GMT drtv@qldnet.com.au (Steve) writes:> > Is there any code out there that will assist us with the following: > > PPP dialer > SMTP Send Mail > POP Fetch Mail > CRON - command run on notice > Email receive filter > > > We seek to automate the file download and upload process using SMTP over > TCP/IP. Code will ultimately have to run across DOS, SCO UNIX, WIN 3.X and > WIN 95. Can anyone tell me where I can find some source code to for each of > these modules? > > Please respond to stevenh@fan.net.au You might want to check out comp.lang.perl.modules . Whether or not you actually write the whole thing in Perl (which looks as though it would be an option), I vaguely remember various modules to do many of those things (don't know about CRON under Win3.X, though). Perl modules are (nearly) always provided in source code format. Hope this helps. -- Gregory D. Baker gbaker@rp.csiro.au CSIRO Radiophysics - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - predictions of the future - quantum computers - silly poetry - - the "langue musicale universale" (Solresol) revival project - - - - - - - - - http://www.rp.csiro.au/~gbaker - - - - - - - - - I'm an eccentric mathematician/IT guru/communicator, and I'm looking for a new job in Sydney, Australia. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:11:46 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:11:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08248; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:11:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA17236 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:06:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA17231 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxU0o-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nirad@cs.uq.edu.au (Nirad Sharma) Subject: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:40:32 GMT Message-Id: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> I wish to use pine (3.91, linux) to access a mailbox on a remote host using imap but the mailbox is for myself under a different username. How do I appropriately specify this for the inbox-path variable ? Nirad. -- Nirad Sharma, Computer Science, University of Queensland. 4072. Australia http://www.cs.uq.edu.au/~nirad From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:16:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09549; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:16:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA10684 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA10679 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:12:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:08:01 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) for id JAA02798; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:11:58 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:11:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Weird... I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" requirement before. I wonder how many others have? As an aside, I would dispute Sven's suggestion that this form is a *requirement*. It is certainly _optional_ (messages are still delivered if the "-- " line is not present:-) and even then I would say merely a courtesy to others. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 29 Aug 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > In article , > Mike Brudenell wrote: > > Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a > > separate file and add the "--". > > As Sven and others have already pointed out, that should be "-- ". The > space is important! > > > Pine can then be configured (in the Setup > > Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* > > to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) > > That's the method I opted for, when I noted the lack of an `enable-sigdashes' > option in the pine setup. > > It's on my list of things to look at creating a patch for, if I ever get some > time. > > Tim > -- > Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu > Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) > Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) > North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:36:48 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:36:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10225; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:36:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA10941 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:32:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA10936 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:32:19 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:16 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05283; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:32:13 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:32:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Kevin Blackman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine news passwd In-Reply-To: <322A21BA.3362@tstt.net.tt> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The current version of Pine -- 3.95 -- supports authentication for reading and/or posting Usenet News articles. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Kevin Blackman wrote: > I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . > My newserver requires authenitcation. > Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to > access the server. > Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? > If not what version of pine does ? > > -Kevin > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 01:42:54 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09352; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:42:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA17638 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:38:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA17633 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:38:34 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:34:23 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06061; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:38:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:38:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Chris Womack Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Replying In-Reply-To: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I think "DearOldDad"'s somewhat terse reply could perhaps benefit from a small amount of elaboration... Pine allows you to alter its behaviour in a great many (and ever growing:-( number of ways. These are accessed, perhaps unsurprisingly, from a menu item called "SETUP" on the Main Menu. After selecting this and then "Configuration" (as against "Printer", for example) you get to the famous but apparently little discovered "Setup Configuration" screen, where all the innards can be controlled. Looking through the various options available reveals one called "signature-at-bottom" (which looks promising?). It is at _this_ point you can put your cursor on this variable and press "?" to see the on-line help about it. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > to appear after the quoted text? On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > RTFM or ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 02:00:25 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:00:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10397; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:00:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA11233 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA11228 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 01:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxUkj-00038TC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 01:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: Pine news passwd Date: 2 Sep 1996 08:13:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <50d886$o72@rain.psg.com> Hi Kevin Blackman ! >I am using pine 3.91 on AIX . >My newserver requires authenitcation. >Pine reports error 480 authentiation required fro command when trying to >access the server. >Does pine 3.91 support username, password for news servers ? >If not what version of pine does ? I had the same problem with Pine 3.91. With 3.95 it seems to works, even if it asks for pwd EVERY TIME you change group, so I really can't use Pine for news. ;-( Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 02:40:52 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10991; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:40:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id CAA18274 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:36:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id CAA18269 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 02:36:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxVMu-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 02:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Erin Subject: Obvious return address problem Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 21:07:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is probably a dumb question, but... when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that people can see that the post is from me?!?! Thanks for your help. Erin eviers1@umbc.edu + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Tact is for weenies + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 03:41:50 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11330; Mon, 2 Sep 96 03:41:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA12294 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:35:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id DAA12289 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 03:35:38 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:31:37 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA26618; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:35:33 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Erin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Other people see exactly the right thing. Pine is merely helping you (and you alone) by providing you a little more information than could otherwise be displayed. Instead of just saying Your name as the sender (which you already know!) it displays "To: recipient's name" This is ONLY done on YOUR screen when you display the folder's contents; everyone else has seen exactly the right thing in the message/article you sent out. The "To:" *implies* the message is from yourself, and the extra space is used to show who you sent the message to. In general this extra information is more useful than merely listing your own name and leaving you to guess/remember who you sent this particular message to. It's a shame that so few people appreciate it! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > This is probably a dumb question, but... > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > people can see that the post is from me?!?! > > Thanks for your help. > > Erin > eviers1@umbc.edu > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Tact is for weenies > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 07:00:55 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 07:00:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12227; Mon, 2 Sep 96 07:00:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA14519 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:57:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA14514 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 06:57:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxZT6-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 06:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: XS Sport Subject: Copy Self ? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:11:43 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I send an e-mail ?? PJ. ``'`` ( . . ) +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ | | | XS Sport ... | | | | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | | | | .oooO | | ( ) Oooo. | +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ \_) ) / (_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 08:05:18 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03964; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:05:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA22031 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:02:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA22026 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:02:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxaTX-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 07:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert addresses between Pine, Eudora, Netscape Date: 2 Sep 1996 14:19:36 GMT Message-Id: <50eqdo$oot@news1.radix.net> I have Web pages to translate the mailing lists between mailers. Eudora to Netscape Pine to Eudora Eudora to Pine Pine to Netscape You can find links to these at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 08:19:00 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:19:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13429; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:18:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA22176 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:14:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA22168 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:13:51 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:09:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA15572; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:13:46 +0100 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:13:45 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: XS Sport Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copy Self ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Look in Pine's Setup Configuration screen for an item called "default-fcc". You can read about it by putting the cursor on it and typing "?". You can override this default value for the fcc (File Carbon Copy) field when composing a message by putting the cursor on a header line, typing ^R to see the Rich Headers, and then blanking the now automatically filled in Fcc header field value. You can also override the default for individuals listed in your address book by setting up an Fcc entry in there for them. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, XS Sport wrote: > > The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC > driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to > get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there > an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I > send an e-mail ?? > > PJ. > > > > ``'`` > ( . . ) > +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ > | | > | XS Sport ... | > | | > | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | > | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | > | | > | .oooO | > | ( ) Oooo. | > +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ > \_) ) / > (_/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:09:22 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13641; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:09:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA22906 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:07:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA22900 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:07:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbTN-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: QUESTION: sending to a few people Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:08:07 GMT Message-Id: <50ccd7$qj4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <5078sr$69n@lex.zippo.com> Un jour, clbell@clan.lib.nv.us (clbell@clan.lib.nv.us) affirmait publiquement que: | I want to send a message to 10 or more people. Is there a way to add | the addresses without everyone getting a list of who was also sent that | message (the last one I sent, the addresses in the "TO:" line was a | page long). The cheap and easy way: To: you Bcc: Everyone else. HTH (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le véritable lieu de naissance est celui où l'on a porté pour la première fois un coup d'oeil intelligent sur soi-même. -- M. Yourcenar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:12:05 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:12:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13854; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:12:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA15875 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:02:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA15870 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:02:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbNC-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 08:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Question regarding Headers Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:10:40 GMT Message-Id: <50cci0$qj4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, del x B (vigilr@rpi.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | anyway, is there anyway way for pine to display the "Message-ID" | in the header? Hint: "Display of full headers" HTH... (CC'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Le véritable lieu de naissance est celui où l'on a porté pour la première fois un coup d'oeil intelligent sur soi-même. -- M. Yourcenar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:42:17 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14137; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:42:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA16374 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:37:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA16369 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:37:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxbxd-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John O. Stambaugh" Subject: viewing-3.93-shell-Amiga Date: Sun, 1 Sep 1996 09:07:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen a few post asking about viewing pictures with pine. Never did see any replys (probably in FAQ). But where is FAQ? How do I get there? Other wise, how do I view with abouve set-up? John O. Stambaugh Lantana, Florida USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 09:50:35 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:50:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14241; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:50:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA23488 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:47:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA23483 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:47:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxc7h-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 09:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: Question related to version 3.95 Date: 2 Sep 1996 16:08:40 GMT Message-Id: <50f0q8$4u4@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <3228C796.791F@eecs.wsu.edu> Un jour, Serban Boca - EECS (sboca@eecs.wsu.edu) affirmait publiquement que: | I have encountered the following problem when we updated to this 3.95 | version (running under HP-UX): In the "sent-mail" folder, the column | reserved for the recipients' addresses is, instead, filled out with the | sender address (i.e., my name). On my HPUX10.01, I don't have that problem. It was compiled as default. (CC'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Les moments où l'on ne peut mentir sont précisément ceux où l'on ment le plus et surtout à soi-même. -- R. Radiguet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 12:06:05 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14363; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:06:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18339 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:02:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18334 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:02:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxeBs-00038TC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 11:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steelrat@interaccess.com (Slippery Jim DiGrz) Subject: Multiple simultaneous IMAP sessions Date: Sun, 01 Sep 1996 16:44:14 GMT Message-Id: <3229bd23.10924463@news.interaccess.com> I'm in a situation where multiple people need to be able to manipulate mail for a single account simultaneously from a remote system. IMAP4 looks like its the way to go but I have a few questions. I found the following info in the IMAP mailing list archives regarding multiple logins considering each IMAP session starts a server(daemon) proccess: >If the second IMAP server has read/write access to the folder, it will steal >the access rights from the first IMAP server and send the first IMAP server a >signal (called "kiss of death") which instructs it to consider the folder >readonly for the remainder of the session. The idea is that an abandoned or >forgotten IMAP server should relinquish control to a new server; in the past, >the first IMAP server held on to read/write access rights and would not permit >the second IMAP server to get it. [snip] >The solution to this conumdrum is to use a different format, one designed to >permit multiple simultaneous access. The UW version 4.0 imapd supports no >less than 5 alternative mailbox formats (3 in the version 3.6 imapd >distributed with Pine). > >The Pine technical notes contain instructions on the use of one such format, >tenex, which originated on the old Tenex systems and was later carried over to >Unix with the MM mailer. In addition to tenex, the UW imapd also supports MH, >MTX (like tenex, but with CRLF newlines instead of LF newlines -- this is >strictly compatible with the old Tenex/TOPS-20 systems as well as with PC Pine >on DOS and Windows), MBX (an advanced successor to MTX, with full IMAP4 >capability), and MX (an advanced successor to MH, with full IMAP4 capability). My questions are as follows: Currently, I'm running qmail as my MTA. Is there any way to get qmail to convert incoming mail to one of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous access or will I need to change my MTA? If I need to change my MDA, where can I find one that can handle any of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous access? Are there any IMAP clients for Windows with a "pretty interface" for the people to use that will understand any of the above format? Is there possibly a better IMAPD and/or system to use overall? My key needs in order of priority are: efficient/effective MTA, auto-responder capabilities depending on message header/content, multiple remote simultaneous access, and "pretty interface" mail client. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -steelrat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 2 12:07:49 1996 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15619; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:07:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18407 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mlode.mlode.com (mlode.com [199.4.123.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18402 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:05:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by mlode.mlode.com ; 2 SEP 96 11:04:20 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 11:04:20 -0800 (PST) From: Linda Emerson X-Sender: lindae@mlode To: XS Sport Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copy Self ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why not use the "sent-mail" folder for copies of your outgoing mail? ... : ... :: Linda Emerson \~~~~~/ Caffe' Sumatra lindae@mlode.com C\___/ Twain Harte, California On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, XS Sport wrote: > > The one thing that stops me from swapping from my slower than slow PC > driven Pegasus mail to pine on unix is the fact that I can't find a way to > get pine to automatically give me a cc of my out going e-mails. Is there > an option other than having to type my own address into the cc everytime I > send an e-mail ?? > > PJ. > > > > ``'`` > ( . . ) > +-----------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------------------------------------+ > | | > | XS Sport ... | > | | > | e-mail : suacj@csv.warwick.ac.uk | > | web : http://www.csv.warwick.ac.uk/~suacj/ | > | | > | .oooO | > | ( ) Oooo. | > +--------------\ (----( )--------------------------------------+ > \_) ) / > (_/ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:41:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02474; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:41:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA25913 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:37:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA25908 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:37:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxekl-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 08:49:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > requirement before. I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. However, Pine will cheerfully include whatever you have in your $HOME/.signature file, whether it meets this requirement or not. > As an aside, I would dispute Sven's suggestion that this form is a > *requirement*. It is certainly _optional_ (messages are still delivered > if the "-- " line is not present:-) and even then I would say merely a > courtesy to others. I suppose it may depend on what Sven means by a requirement. I simply consider my so-called signature to be the bottom part of my text, conveniently and automatically added for me by Pine. However, some people may be using software to preprocess incoming mail. That preprocessing may include some kind of manipulation of the signature in the above technical sense. If that is so, then "signatures" which do not begin with '-- ' will possibly not be caught by the prepro- cessor, rather to the frustration of the recipient. However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still delivered. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15911; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:53:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18920 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18915 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 12:47:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxexp-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 12:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:45:46 GMT On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > > > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > > requirement before. > > I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the > esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed > by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes this rule and where it is documented. > However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that > there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from > Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still > delivered. Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt to provoke someone into "naming their source". best regards "Only mediocrity can guarantee to be at its best all the time". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16186; Mon, 2 Sep 96 13:11:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA19267 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:08:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns1.ptd.net (ns1.ptd.net [198.80.46.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id NAA19262 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 13:08:45 -0700 Received: from ns1.ptd.net (medowswt@postoffice.ptd.net [198.80.46.11]) by ns1.ptd.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA02127 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:08:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 16:08:42 -0400 (EDT) From: One or more of the Smiths X-Sender: medowswt@ns1.ptd.net To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly simple problem. Ben Smith 2054 Smith Rd, Lodi, NY, 14860 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:30:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17182; Mon, 2 Sep 96 14:30:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id OAA27551 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id OAA27544 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:27:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxgUk-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 14:25 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:00:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 2 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts > actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a > message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and > decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first > paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. > The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the > end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! > > I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set > about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks > nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. > > Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly > "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@otto.cmr.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s Last words: Typing? What's that? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16168; Mon, 2 Sep 96 15:47:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA21308 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:43:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA21303 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 15:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxhcy-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 15:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinof Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:01:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Probably is right, but i suppose it should be covered in the FAQ. If you log into a friends account you will see that it does show your name. Mail or posts that are from you are shown in the index with the To: header. Just look in your sent-mail folder - its the same way in there. On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > This is probably a dumb question, but... > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > people can see that the post is from me?!?! > > Thanks for your help. > > Erin > eviers1@umbc.edu > > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > Tact is for weenies > + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14099; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:07:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA29541 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:03:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA29522 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:03:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxiwl-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Peeve about writing a message Date: 2 Sep 1996 14:27:25 GMT Message-Id: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18526; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:55:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA22933 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA22928 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 17:53:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxjjk-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 17:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 00:14:43 GMT Message-Id: References: Hi One or more of the Smiths ! >I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to >'.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to >but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly >simple problem. Just edit the .signature file with your favourite editor (I use Emacs for instance, you may use Pico, VI or something else) writing the signature into it as plain ASCII. All done! Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19035; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:04:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA00467 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:03:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA00462 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:03:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxjqu-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mentat@caladan.italpro.com (Michele Beltrame) Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. Date: 3 Sep 1996 00:16:50 GMT Message-Id: References: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Hi Warren or Tony Lieuallen ! >2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? Yes, there's a flag in PINE Setup (or at least it is in Pine 3.95). It is called quell-dead-letter-on-cancel... set it to ON. Mic. -- -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Michele Beltrame Italpro srl mentat@italpro.com http://www.italpro.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19423; Mon, 2 Sep 96 18:50:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA23581 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:47:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from moose.uvm.edu (moose.uvm.edu [132.198.101.60]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id SAA23576 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 18:47:24 -0700 Received: (from nfox@localhost) by moose.uvm.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA31248; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:47:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:47:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "N D. Fox" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: cursor in wrong position Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom it may concern, I'm having trouble w/ pine in the respect that my cursor appears one line above where the text appears. I've tried all alternatices including pine help and local network administrator. please send e-mail if there is a command in pine that I am not familiar with that will rectify this situation. Thanks, Dave Fox University of Vermont nfox@moose.uvm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:35:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19751; Mon, 2 Sep 96 19:35:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA24106 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:33:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA24101 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 19:33:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxlFG-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 19:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 14:01:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" > is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, > there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to > 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! I should make a correction. You can set the margin any width you want. It's just a good idea to not exceed 80 columns. Sorry for the slight confusion. Best regards..... -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { king_s@otto.cmr.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~king_s Last words: Typing? What's that? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 21:05:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20219; Mon, 2 Sep 96 21:05:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA02674 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA02669 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 20:58:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxmZt-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 20:55 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rob Funk) Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 03:12:26 GMT Message-Id: <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In article , Alan J. Flavell wrote: >On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: >> However, I am not aware that there is any RFC requirement that >> there be a signature at all on email, and often, email generated from >> Web pages have no signature in the technical sense, but they are still >> delivered. There is no "requirement" of the _existence_ of a signature. However, there is a longstanding practice, when including one, of prefacing it with the "-- " line. >Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt >to provoke someone into "naming their source". Well, MY original source was various documentation surrounding trn and elm, but I did find some acknowledgement of this practice elsewhere. See section 4.3.2 of "Son of RFC 1036": ftp://ftp.zoo.toronto.edu/pub/news.txt.Z # [...] # If a poster or posting agent does append a signature to an # article, the signature SHOULD be preceded with a delimiter # line containing (only) two hyphens (ASCII 45) followed by # one blank (ASCII 32). # [...] # A # standard delimiter line makes it possible for # reading agents to handle signatures specially if # desired. (This is unfortunately hampered by # extensive misunderstanding of, and misuse of, the # delimiter.) # # NOTE: The choice of delimiter is somewhat unfortu- # nate, since it relies on preservation of trailing # white space, but it is too well-established to # change. # [...] Note that this document is specifically written for USENET news posts, not email, but the rationale behind the "-- " delimiter is as valid for email as for news. -- =========== R o b F u n k ===========|===========> funk+@osu.edu <=========== Guildenstern: "So there you are." |rfunk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Rosencrantz: "Stark raving sane." |rfunk@peri.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tom Stoppard, Ros. & Guil. Are Dead)|http://er4www.eng.ohio-state.edu/~funkr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21534; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:12:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA03599 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:08:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA03594 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:08:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxniz-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? Date: 2 Sep 1996 23:26:06 GMT Message-Id: <50fqee$h13@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: Un jour, One or more of the Smiths (medowswt@prolog.net) affirmait publiquement que: | I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to | '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to | but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly | simple problem. Main Menu Setup Signature That is: "mss" HTH... (Cc'ed) __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da Université de Montréal tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Ne pas s'occuper des autres, c'est toute la distinction; s'en occuper, c'est toute la politesse. -- Les Goncourt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21795; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:43:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA26575 for pine-info-out; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA26569 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 22:38:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxoBE-00038BC; Mon, 2 Sep 96 22:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: Is there a qmail mailing list? Date: 3 Sep 1996 03:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw> If anyone knows the qmail mailing list or news group, please let me know. I am having some problems with qmail and need to ask a few questions. For example, I could not setup the time to the format that I like. Qmail keep telling me it couldn't find checkpasswd, so I could provide POP3 to my users. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22945; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:10:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA28212 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 00:59:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id AAA28207 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 00:59:14 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:55:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA05754; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:59:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:59:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: "John O. Stambaugh" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: viewing-3.93-shell-Amiga In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, John O. Stambaugh wrote: > I have seen a few post asking about viewing pictures with pine. Never did > see any replys (probably in FAQ). Ummm... I don't actually recall seeing such a question go by recently (but then I confess I have been somewhat snowed under with other things). The description below assumes you are using (the current) version 3.95 of Pine on UNIX. I don't use PC-Pine myself but believe things to probably be configurable in a similar way; however filenames etc will be different. Method 1 -------- At Pine's Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) to get to the Setup Configuration screen. Look down for a variable called "image-viewer", put your cursor on it, and type "?" to read the on-line help about it. Method 2 (preferred nowadays) -------- Set up a personal "Mailcap" file (or ask your system manager to set one up systemwide. This file contains information on the command to use to view an attachment of a particular MIME type. It is more flexible than the old "image-viewer" variable described above, as you can use different viewers to view different formats of image. If you need assistance setting up a mailcap file try asking your local support desk. > But where is FAQ? How do I get there? The FAQ is available on the World-Wide Web at the Pine Information Centre: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > Other wise, how do I view with abouve set-up? I'm not sure what the "above setup is", as I said above. The instructions I summarised will work for UNIX Pine, and probably (in some shape or form) for PC-Pine. However if you're referring to an Amiga (in the Subject line) then I have no specific information I can give. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22815; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:19:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA28391 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:13:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA28386 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:13:35 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:09:07 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07614; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:13:06 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:13:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Alan J. Flavell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > > On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote (excerpted): > > > > > I've been using the Net for quite a few years now and have to admit that I > > > have never before heard of the "space after the -- in a signature" > > > requirement before. > > > > I had heard of it before. In order to be a "signature" in the > > esoteric technical sense, it has to begin with two hyphens followed > > by a blank, the three to be left-justified on a line by themselves. > > I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for > chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the > rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes > this rule and where it is documented. In a fit of early morning madness I present for your delectation this momentary diversionary tale from someone at my church. Please forgive me the normally unpardonable sin of wandering slightly but it is, perhaps, in some sense relevant... ----- A little girl had for some years watched her mother prepare the joint of beef for their family's traditional Sunday dinner. The girl had long wondered why her mother always cut off an inch-wide slice from the end of the joint and threw it away before putting the remainder in the oven. One day she plucked up her courage and asked her mother why she did this. Her mother stopped, looking non-plussed, and admitted that she really didn't know why, but did it because _her_ mother had always done so. So when they next visited the little girl's grandmother they asked her why she had always cut the end inch off the Sunday joint. She replied, "Back when I got married we had a house with a very small kitchen, which had a very small cooker. We had to use a small roasting tin to fit in the oven, and the joint of meat was always a little to big to fit onto it so I had to trim the end of it off." ----- Moral: Tradition is powerful and persists even when reason fades. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23080; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:32:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA05939 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:25:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA05934 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:25:25 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:21:12 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08891; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:25:12 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:25:11 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message In-Reply-To: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ummm... it sounds like there may be something funny with your setup... Question: Are you really using Pico (the separate standalone editor invoked either manually or automatically from Pine as the "alternate editor"), or using Pine's built-in composer (which is Pico in disguise). You can tell by starting to compose a message and, the cursor in the Message Text area, looking at the header line at the top of the screen. If this looks something like this: PINE 3.95L COMPOSE MESSAGE REPLY Folder: INBOX 53 Messages Then you're using Pine's built-in composer and I'm confused by what you report you're seeing. Let me elucidate... Pine's built-in composer certainly does word-wrap if you go back and add text to an existing line in a paragraph. However the word-wrapping is limited in that: * Words are pushed off thee line onto a new line inserted after the current one (ie, they aren't added to and rewrapped into subsequent lines). * Deleting words from a line does not "suck back" words from the subsequent lines. This is primarily because the composer (and standalone Pico's word wrap mode) is a text editor, not a full-blown word processor. Word-wrapping in this manner is the default action for both Pine's built-in composer (Pico in disguise) and standalone Pico. For the latter the action can be suppressed by starting it with the "-w" command line option, which will then give the effect you describe. This tends to make me think that you're not using Pine's built-in composer, but instead invoking Pico with a "pico -w" command setup either in your own personal configuration or in your system's systemwide Pine configuration file. Check your Setup Configuration screen for the value (if any) set up for the "editor" variable. Finally... both Pico and Pine's built-in composer offer a very handy command that justifies (re word-wraps) the current paragraph. This is ^J (shown in the command menu at the bottom of the screen). Just put your cursor on the untidy paragraph and type ^J for it to be rewrapped. (A "paragraph" is a sequence of lines delimited either by blank lines or a line with leading whitespcae.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 2 Sep 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > I have one particular problem that really bugs me. It drives me nuts > actually and has ever since I started with Pine. Say I am writing a > message, probably a few paragraphs. So I type away. Now I look back and > decide I want to insert a couple lines in the middle of the first > paragraph. So I cursor up there and type that. But it doesn't work. > The line I'm typing on just insists on getting longer (with a $ at the > end), and doesn't wrap around. So this really gets to be a chore! > > I have to cursor over to the end of the line, hit Return, and then set > about adjusting each following line in that paragraph so that it looks > nice and proper with ~70 char's per line. > > Why does Pine do this to me? And why can't it work like a fairly > "half"-decent wordprocessor? The editor I'm using is Pico. > > - Adam > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23176; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:35:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA05985 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:29:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA05980 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:28:56 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:24:47 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09454; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:28:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:28:46 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: One or more of the Smiths Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I'm a new user. How do I create a signature? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" One way is to use a text editor (not Pine, which is a mail program) to create a file called ".signature" in your home directory. If you don't know what editors are available to you, or how to use them, you will need to ask your local support desk. However if you are using the latest version of Pine (3.95 -- it tells you up at the top left corner of your screen when you're within Pine) there is a built-in signature editor... At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) followed by another "S" (Signature). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, One or more of the Smiths wrote: > I read the help on how to create a signature file (saving it to > '.signature') but how do I do it? I've been searching for info on how to > but without any luck. I hope someone can help me with this seemingly > simple problem. > > Ben Smith > 2054 Smith Rd, Lodi, NY, 14860 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23017; Tue, 3 Sep 96 01:40:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA28654 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA28649 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 01:34:03 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:29:50 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10170; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:44 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "N D. Fox" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: cursor in wrong position In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" This action has been deliberately chosen by the Pine Team. The reasoning is that the text of your reply is (should be!) the "useful" part of the message, and the quoted text of secondary nature to provide context for the recipient if they can't remember what it is you're waffling on about ;-) This saves the recipient having to wade through reams of included text simply to get to your comments right at the bottom. Therefore the default action is to let you start typing your reply in straight away, all nicely position at the start of the message. However for dinosaurs who really don't like the behaviour (gosh, I'm in a funny mood today:-) or for those who prefer to intersperse their comments after included paragraphs the action can be changed... At Pine's Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen (by typing "S" then "C") where, unsurprisingly, you can set Pine's behaviour. Look down the list of items for one called "signature-at-bottom" and make sure it is selected. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, N D. Fox wrote: > > To Whom it may concern, > I'm having trouble w/ pine in the respect that my cursor appears > one line above where the text appears. I've tried all alternatices > including pine help and local network administrator. please send e-mail > if there is a command in pine that I am not familiar with that will > rectify this situation. > > > > Thanks, > Dave Fox > University of Vermont > nfox@moose.uvm.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24811; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:21:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08048 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:14:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id EAA08043 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:14:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxtNv-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:11 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr (Ollivier Robert) Subject: Re: Is there a qmail mailing list? Date: 3 Sep 1996 09:50:09 GMT Message-Id: <50gv0h$ncd@polaris.eurocontrol.fr> References: <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw> [courtesy cc of this posting sent to cited author via email] In article <50g9fh$mhv@voyager.iii.org.tw>, PC_USER wrote: > If anyone knows the qmail mailing list or news group, please > let me know. You should: - look at the available newsgroups. c.m.pine is not the right one. Try comp.mail.misc instead (Followups set to it), - look into the documentation, the mailing list is mentionned here. It was on Dan's announce for Qmail too I think. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- Eurocontrol EEC/TIS -=- Ollivier.Robert@eurocontrol.fr Usenet Canal Historique From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24985; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:43:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id EAA08360 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from home.au.ac.th (home.au.ac.th [202.6.101.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id EAA08355 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 04:37:52 -0700 Received: from au2.au.ac.th (u3810497@au2.au.ac.th [202.6.101.2]) by home.au.ac.th (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA19310; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:36:57 +0700 (TST) Received: from localhost by au2.au.ac.th (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA04875; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:43:18 +0700 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:43:17 +0700 (TST) From: Siriwan Premsuwansri To: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Some questions to use Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, This is my first try to use Email so I have confused in using Pine. First of all , I have some questions to use and would like you to advise me as below : 1.Pine is text mode only , isn't it? 2.Can I save my inward mail to my hardisk? How to do it? 3.What is the meaning of "Folder" in Email? and How many folder can I create? Thank you very much for your kind assistance and look forward your early reply. Thanks and best regards, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15932; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:12:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA01152 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA01147 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxu8c-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 04:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dean Pentcheff Subject: Re: Rolling out Pine Date: 31 Aug 1996 11:18:29 -0400 Message-Id: References: <508ekc$qb5@crl.crl.com> ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) writes: > I am in the process of rolling out pine as an option to one hundred > users, how to I setup pine, so that when they first try pine they > dont get the "request for more tips on pine email" thingy. > I dont want 100 pices of the same email coming to each user on day one. Well, in the true tradition of Unix help: I can't tell you the answer, but I can tell you how to find it, and I don't think you need it. Where does each user's pine store state between invocations? In the ".pinerc" file (or the equivalent PC file). That would be the place to check. My guess is that it's the "last-version-used" variable. Experiment with that, and either distribute appropriately jiggered .pinerc files, or (if it works) diddle the systemwide .pinerc file (again, if on a Unix system). But... I see a more fundamental problem. If you think your email system may not be able to handle one message per day per user, I think you need to rethink your email strategy, not the intro-message-mailing strategy. I'm not sure how useful an email system can be if it is stressed by that load. Good luck! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:12:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25167; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:12:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA08665 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id FAA08660 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:04:20 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id IAA22245; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA30821; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:04:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA02784; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:02:34 EDT Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:02:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 Reply-To: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Cc: "s.m masieh ul islam" Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Pine Info members: A few weeks ago, S.M. Masieh ul Islam posted a message asking for help in printing email messages. I asked him for more information, and I think he has provided enough information that someone can answer his question. He is running in a DOS/Windows environment with a Canon BJC-210 attached to his PC. He is dialing in to the Pakistan Telecommunication Corp. PARKNET service via modem and, presumably, Windows Terminal program, to run Pine. Can the Windows program be configured to recognize the print-through commands? Is there another Windows telecommunications program he can buy/download that is compatible with the print through commands? Is there some other way he can print his messages, short of saving to a file and downloading via xmodem, kermit, etc. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:39:30 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: "s.m masieh ul islam" To: Don Sugarman Cc: razas02@tigger.stcloud.msus.edu Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES DEAR DON SUGARMAN ,I AM USING PC PINE IN DOS/WINDOWS ENVIRNOMENT. - PRINTER IS NOT CONNECTED TO LAN SERVER OR TO UNIX SERVER.THERE IS NO LAN INSTALLED.MY PC IS WORKING AS STAND ALONE UNIT AND IS CONNECTED THRO MODEM TO PAKISTAN TELECOMMUNICATION CORPORATION `PAKNET` SYSTEM.THROUGH THEM I GET CONNECTED TO PINE AND TO INTERNET. I SHALL APPRECIATE FURTHER HELP.REGARDS.MASIEH From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25634; Tue, 3 Sep 96 05:56:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA09192 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:45:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from intfw.bear.com (intfw.bear.com [206.25.172.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id FAA09187 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 05:45:54 -0700 Received: by intfw.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13186; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:45:15 EDT Received: from fastbear(165.168.74.3) by intfw via smap (V1.3) id sma012860; Tue Sep 3 08:42:36 1996 Received: from ursa2.bear.com by fastbear.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.0 AMR 12/15/94) id AA02112; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:44:53 EDT Received: from whip_xfr.bear.com (whip-xfr) by ursa2.bear.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/AMR+DJMS(2)) id AA09466; Tue, 3 Sep 96 08:43:22 EDT Received: from warlock.bsnet by whip_xfr.bear.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA08966; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:40 -0400 Received: from tiberius.bsnet by warlock.bsnet (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26185; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:38 -0400 Received: from localhost by tiberius.bsnet (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA10884; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 08:42:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard G. Roberto" Reply-To: richr@bear.com To: Don Sugarman Cc: Pine Info Mail List , "s.m masieh ul islam" Subject: Re: PRINTING TEXTS OF EMAIL MESSAGES (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Don Sugarman wrote: > To Pine Info members: > > > Can the Windows program be configured to recognize the print-through > commands? Is there another Windows telecommunications program he can > buy/download that is compatible with the print through commands? Is there > some other way he can print his messages, short of saving to a file and > downloading via xmodem, kermit, etc. > > Regards, > > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com > I've seen commercial terminal emulation apps that can do this, but I can't remember the names of them. Flipping through any software mag ought to get you some candidates. You should, of course, ask the vendor if their product supports this behavior before buying. Alternatively, he should be able to use the windows terminal emulator to print the screen, no? Good luck. Richard G. Roberto richr@bear.com 201-739-2886 - whippany, nj -- ******************************************************************************* Bear Stearns is not responsible for any recommendation, solicitation, offer or agreement or any information about any transaction, customer account or account activity contained in this communication. ******************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26085; Tue, 3 Sep 96 06:41:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA02382 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:39:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sdnhq.undp.org (sdnhq.undp.org [192.124.42.79]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id GAA02377 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 06:39:20 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sdnhq.undp.org (8.7.5/8.6.9) with UUCP id JAA29725 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:27:31 -0400 Received: from khi.UUCP by sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA32036 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:50:22 +0500 Received: from sirsyed.UUCP by khi.sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with UUCP id PAA05027 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:47:16 +0500 Received: (from majmal@localhost) by sirsyed.khi.sdnpk.undp.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA00913; Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 1996 09:28:23 -0400 (GMT-0400) From: "M. Ajmal" To: pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello Plrase sent me the latest news on pine and its new features From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:24:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22069; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:24:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA10320 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:12:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA10315 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:12:42 -0700 Received: from [205.247.120.201] ([205.247.120.201]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA01818 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:12:09 -0400 Message-Id: <199609031412.KAA01818@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Tue, 3 Sep 96 10:12:30 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: telling PINE my PPP is down Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Occasionally my PPP connection dies at times when I am running PINE (usually to read news off a remote NNTP machine). Then it just hangs there for a LONG time, and finally says "Waited for server for X seconds, hangup?" Where X seconds is not as long as it really has been waiting.... Anyway, where is this time-to-ask-if-pine-should-break-connection set? Thanks TjL -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat Email Auto-Responder: for PGP key, use SUBJECT: send-ascii pgpkey for NeXT info, use SUBJECT: send-ascii info Also, see: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next LOOKING FOR NS 3.3 (m68k) User/Dev (cheap ;-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:59:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27073; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:59:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA11032 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA11027 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 07:54:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxwqq-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 07:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Yorinks Subject: Re: Port for QNX? Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 10:20:00 -0400 Message-Id: <322C3E90.24E5@lucent.com> References: <322822EC.47E2@monmouth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan Yorinks wrote: > > Is anyone aware of a port for the QNX operating system? > > Thanks, > Alan Yorinks > afy@lucent.com I answered my own question. I ported it myself this weekend. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30194; Tue, 3 Sep 96 09:33:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA05372 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:19:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA05367 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:19:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uxyBm-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 09:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:13:25 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <5019ou$29e@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes: >hereth@aeeo.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Ralf Hereth) writes: >>Does anybody know a possibility to change the "From"-field of outgoing mail >>to another address? > >but >isn't it possible to put a "From: address" in the customized header? >I do this with elm. Yes, many MUAs, including elm, let you change the `From:' header. With pine you need to recompile it so that ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is not commented out. Good luck, Nancy (posted and mailed) -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:06:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31020; Tue, 3 Sep 96 10:06:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA13949 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from frank.mtsu.edu (frank.mtsu.edu [161.45.128.109]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA13935 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 09:51:56 -0700 Received: by frank.mtsu.edu (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA186319589; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:53:09 -0500 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 11:53:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Sheraz Hanif To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto mail forwarding Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! Is there any "auto mail forwarding" function in pine. If it is, then how can set it up? Sheraz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:17:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01763; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:17:30 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA17615 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA17610 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:10:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy0oD-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Melusky" Subject: Re: HELP Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:19:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, John O. Stambaugh wrote: > Please send a keystroke for keystroke process to put my name in the "from" > box. When I reply to someone in a newsgroup my message as listed in the > "I" or list screen has "reply to" or something like that. Using Pine 3.93 > on a shell account. > Thanks > John O. Stambaugh > Lantana, Florida USA Hi John, There is no need to do anything I guess. I was told that everyone else can see the name "John O. Stambaugh" but we can't see our own names. Take care, Jon. PS If you want to see your own name then ask this group again but be specific in the subject line. "HELP" does not get a whole lot of replies compared to a detailed subject line. Ok? It is also the same in the personals Usenet groups. If you don't put the city and area code of yourself in the subject line then you will get almost no responses. o __/\o_ __o < \ _ \<_ _/\ (_)/(_) / Triathalon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02159; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:31:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10517 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:25:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10512 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:25:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy15a-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: iso-2022-jp Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:27:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Tony, One of our user services people at UW is preparing a long document describing how to do Japanese mail reading with Pine. It's still in preliminary state and has known errors, so I don't know if she wants to let it out yet. But I've bcc'd her on this message; if she wants to send you a copy on a "use at your own risk" basis that'd be her decision... On 23 Aug 1996, Tony wrote: > I am getting overloaded with e-mail from Japan because I subscribe to the > mail list of my favorite Japanese pop music star. Only problem is, all > incoming mail is being typed using iso-2022-jp!!!!!! > > I was wondering if there was some way I could decipher or decode > iso-2022-jp code using PINE in order to render it into either its Kanji/kana > equivalent or into some for which is readable in English???? Or do I have > to go a different route? ISO-2022-JP is simply mixed ASCII (English) and JIS (Japanese) text in 7 bits, using ESC codes to shift back and forth between them. Your terminal emulator may support this encoding as "JIS7". Pine does not do too well with ESC codes. Each ESC code occupies three bytes, which Pine thinks occupies screen space even when it doesn't. For this reason, I usually convert the data to 8-bit code (either EUC or SJIS) using the display-filter functionality along with the "nkf" program (if you do serious work with Japanese on Unix, you probably have a copy of nkf). You may need to do some experimentation to get it working, and you should also be sure that you're using the latest version of Pine. Earlier versions of Pine have known problems working with Japanese text. For more information about Japanese encodings and the nkf program, I refer to you to Ken Lunde's book "Understand Japanese Information Processing". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01746; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:36:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA18198 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:30:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA18193 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:30:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy18b-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Multiple simultaneous IMAP sessions Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:56:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3229bd23.10924463@news.interaccess.com> steelrat@interaccess.com (Slippery Jim DiGrz) writes: >If I need to change my MDA, where can I find one that can handle any >of the above listed formats that will handle multiple simultaneous >access? Are there any IMAP clients for Windows with a "pretty >interface" for the people to use that will understand any of the above >format? Is there possibly a better IMAPD and/or system to use >overall? My key needs in order of priority are: efficient/effective >MTA, auto-responder capabilities depending on message header/content, >multiple remote simultaneous access, and "pretty interface" mail >client. I, and probably others, would also like to know this. Please post responses to this question. Thanks much, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:39:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02449; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:39:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10787 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10782 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 12:35:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy1EJ-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 12:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skendric@fhcrc.org (Stuart Kendrick) Subject: pine.conf and location of sendmail binary Date: 22 Aug 1996 19:26:06 GMT Message-Id: <4vic8e$ml9@mule.fhcrc.org> I installed Pine, tried to send a message, and received an error to the effect that Pine couldn't find /usr/lib/sendmail. Aha! I thought, I know what the problem is: I've moved sendmail to /opt/local/sbin. So I created /opt/local/lib/pine.conf, consisting of the single line: sendmail-path=/opt/local/sbin/sendmail Tried sending the message again, and Pine (apparently) sent my test message just fine. But in fact, Pine is actually tossing mail into the bit bucket. Copies are saved to sent-mail, of course, but the message itself vanishes. I've run Pine under truss and stared at the output. I can see the call to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. I hard-linked /usr/bin/sendmail to /opt/local/sbin/sendmail. Same problem. I then removed /opt/local/sbin/pine.conf. Bingo! Things work again. OK, so is this a bug or am I missing something? And can anyone describe the details of how this fails? Clearly, /opt/local/sbin/sendmail gets called ... but it tosses the message, instead of sending it. I don't understand how this can be -- sendmail's behavior at this point should be unrelated to any weirdness on Pine's part. Pine 3.95, Solaris 2.5.1 Attached are entries from syslog. The first illustrates the failure condition. The second illustrates the successful condition. Aug 22 12:20:01 spitbug sendmail[3945]: MAA03945: from=sbk, size=262, class=0, p ri=262, nrcpts=0, msgid=, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:45 spitbug sendmail[3952]: MAA03952: from=, size=280, class=0, pri=30280, nrcpts=1, msgid=, proto=SMTP, relay=sbk@localhost Aug 22 12:20:47 spitbug sendmail[3953]: MAA03952: to=, ctlad dr= (18602/90), delay=00:00:02, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=e smtp, relay=bug1.fhcrc.org. [140.107.10.110], stat=Sent (Ok) --sk Stuart Kendrick Network Services FHCRC From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04113; Tue, 3 Sep 96 13:55:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA20377 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA20372 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 13:50:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy2Pp-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 13:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bounce@blarg.net (Parri Gignac) Subject: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: 3 Sep 1996 17:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> Hi, I hope there's someone out there who can give me some direction on what to try or perhaps have had this problem... I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my machine. The build for pico stops dead with: cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 and my syslog dir has this message: error: cannot execute /usr/bin/rsmtp: No such file or directory Ok, I know I don't have rsmtp, but I haven't seen where I'm supposed to get that util. And I can't find in the Pine files where I can edit out the call to that or change it as well. Any ideas on getting around this? Get a Pico binary and edit out the build line for it? Thanks in advance, Parri Gignac -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27708; Tue, 3 Sep 96 15:35:22 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA22768 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yarra.vicnet.net.au (yarra.vicnet.net.au [203.10.72.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA22761 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 15:31:11 -0700 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au (rvib2.rvib.org.au [203.3.138.1]) by yarra.vicnet.net.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA02859 for <@yarra.vicnet.net.au:pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:30:15 +1000 Received: from rvib2.rvib.org.au by rvib2.rvib.org.au id aa08105; 4 Sep 96 8:28 AEST Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:28:58 +1000 (AEST) From: Les Wallis To: Pine Info Group Subject: Off line reader Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are providing an internet service to a number of vision impaired people who dial up via modem and can access a Pine mailbox and services such as lynx and telnet. I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 ... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06349; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:18:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA16229 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA16224 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:15:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy4dc-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eco922275@ecostat.aau.dk (MONSTER AXP) Subject: Problem defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP Date: 30 Aug 96 21:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> I have a problem concerning the following excerpt from a readme file from HUJI (Pine 3.91 for vms): > >Using >===== > All the user needs is the PINE.EXE; Pine reads the mail from the user's >VMS/MAIL files and send outgoing mail either via mail routines using some >foreign protocol or via direct SMTP to some SMTP server (I preffer this >metod). You use the latter by defining SMTP-SERVER field with some host. >If you do not set it you must define PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to the prefix of >|the foreign protocol used. For example, if you use SMTP% you have to define >|it to SMTP. >|The global PINE configuration file (if needed) is located at >SYS$MANAGER:PINE.CONF; if you want to recompile it with a different name then >modify PINE/OS_VMS.H; > I need to define the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP - but where do I do that ? ? and how do I do it ? ? > >Notes: >===== >1. Due to the readonly definition in the source files we use an external > #define to redefine it to something else. Due to that CTYPE.H fails, so > we use a private copy of it. Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but still has no clue what and where to do define Hope someone out there can help me Thanks in advance.. /peter andersen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:33:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29319; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:33:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA24057 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:31:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA24052 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:31:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy4rH-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 16:26 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dicks@kdsi.net (Dick Strickland) Subject: Pine Install on AIX Date: 3 Sep 1996 16:32:18 GMT Message-Id: <50hmii$25s@news.netusa.net> Good Morning We are looking for someone that we interested in contracting with to install Pine on an RS6000. If you would interested in doing this on a contract basis please e-mail privately estimated time and fees required. TIA Dick Strickland DickS@kdsi.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09007; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:01:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id RAA18279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id RAA18272 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 17:55:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy6CK-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 17:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fheitka@ibm.net (Fred Heitkamp) Subject: IMAP conflict with mtools!! Date: 3 Sep 1996 11:02:20 GMT Message-Id: <50h37s$432g@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> I've been running pine 3.95 on Linux and I've discovered a potential bug in either pine or mtools. When I type 'mdir' to get a directory of my A: drive, I get a prompt asking about my mail directory. Can anyone verify this for me? Thanks! I'm using Pine 3.95 on Linux kernel 2.0.14 and libc 5.2.18 Fred Heitkamp From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:33:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09350; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:33:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id SAA26464 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:31:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id SAA26457 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 18:30:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy6nP-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 18:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: auto mail forwarding Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:05:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Sep 1996, Sheraz Hanif wrote: > Is there any "auto mail forwarding" function in pine. If it is, then how > can set it up? There is none in Pine. Mail forwarding is not Pine's job. That is part of the delivery process, and Pine comes into the picture only after the mail is delivered. Despair not, however. If you are using Pine on a Un*x system, you can set up a .forward file to have your mail forwarded. For more elaborate information, read 'man forward'. If you are running Pine on some other system, others more knowledgeable than I will have to provide you with information. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25668; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:24:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA27191 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA27180 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy7Yl-00038WC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Marshall Subject: Pine and Solaris 2.5 x86 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 14:39:24 +0100 Message-Id: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Has anyone had problems using pine (3.95) on solaris 2.5.1 x86? Specifically when using pine to send mail via smtp, my machines lockup and need to be rebooted. -- Chris Marshall From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:25:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA19473 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA19468 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy7XK-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 19:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chris Womack Subject: Re: Replying Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 08:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> References: <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Brudenell wrote: > > I think "DearOldDad"'s somewhat terse reply could perhaps benefit from a > small amount of elaboration... > > Pine allows you to alter its behaviour in a great many (and ever > growing:-( number of ways. These are accessed, perhaps unsurprisingly, > from a menu item called "SETUP" on the Main Menu. After selecting this > and then "Configuration" (as against "Printer", for example) you get to > the famous but apparently little discovered "Setup Configuration" screen, > where all the innards can be controlled. > > Looking through the various options available reveals one called > "signature-at-bottom" (which looks promising?). > > It is at _this_ point you can put your cursor on this variable and press > "?" to see the on-line help about it. > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Thu, 29 Aug 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > to appear after the quoted text? > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > > RTFM or ? I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I wonder if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these options. Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10298; Tue, 3 Sep 96 20:05:59 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA19980 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA19971 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 20:01:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy8CQ-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leanne McKay Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:49:12 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have appreciated ;-) this feature since old version 3.05, which I've just swapped for 3.91. In my recently saved messages, I still get 'To:..' but my older messages suddenly just showed my name as the sender. Upon investigating, I found out that pine 3.91 is putting straight in the 'From:' of recent messages, but the earlier version used the $NAME environment variable which had 'L.McKay', so 'From:' had (an alias happily recognised on my system for returns). Pine now thinks I am . Consequently, Pine does not know I wrote the old messages. I've looked at all the new configurable options, but cannot find one that lets me customise what Pine puts in 'From: '. I'd like to use $NAME environment variable again, but have not yet found any documentation that the ability to use it ever existed. Was it a proper feature of Pine 3.05 or would it have just been implemented on our site (and how)? Thanks, Leanne. ************************************************************** _________________ Leanne McKay T T T T T T T T lmckay@nla.gov.au I I I I I I I I National Library of Australia I I I I I I I I Phone: +61 6 262 1479 T T T T T T T T Fax: +61 6 273 3648 =================== ********************************** On 2 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Other people see exactly the right thing. > > Pine is merely helping you (and you alone) by providing you a little more > information than could otherwise be displayed. Instead of just saying > > Your name > > as the sender (which you already know!) it displays > > "To: recipient's name" > > This is ONLY done on YOUR screen when you display the folder's contents; > everyone else has seen exactly the right thing in the message/article you > sent out. > > The "To:" *implies* the message is from yourself, and the extra space is > used to show who you sent the message to. In general this extra > information is more useful than merely listing your own name and leaving > you to guess/remember who you sent this particular message to. > > It's a shame that so few people appreciate it! :-) > > On Sun, 1 Sep 1996, Erin wrote: > > > when I post to a newsgroup (say, for example, this one), the index shows > > "To: alt.test" instead of my email address. How do I change this so that > > people can see that the post is from me?!?! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09995; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:04:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA28441 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:01:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA28436 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy98Z-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 12:27:50 -0400 Message-Id: References: pmb1@york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) writes: >Of course, you could take a copy of your normal "--"-less signature into a >separate file and add the "--". Pine can then be configured (in the Setup >Configuration screen) to use this alternative file. (It only *defaults* >to a file called ".signature" in your home directory (for UNIX Pine).) Yes, this is what I do. I use .signature for most programs and .sig-- for pine. Here's a script I use to edit my sig, which I call `editsig': #! /bin/sh # The above line means that this is a Bourne shell script. # Filename: editsig # Author: Nancy McGough # Last Update: 09 September 1994 $EDITOR $HOME/.signature sed -e '1i\ -- ' $HOME/.signature > $HOME/.sig-- chmod +r $HOME/.signature $HOME/.sig-- cat $HOME/.signature $HOME/.sig-- Enjoy, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07026; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:40:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA21354 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA21349 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:36:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy9g6-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:35 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Problem defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP In-Reply-To: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <1996Aug30.211730@ecostat> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 19:55:37 GMT On 30 Aug 1996, MONSTER AXP wrote: (about the HUJI port of PINE to VMS) > I need to define the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL to SMTP - but where do I do that ? ? > and how do I do it ? ? That's something that you'd do in VMS, e.g in your LOGIN.COM or in the system-wide counterpart, you'd add: $ DEFINE PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL SMTP However, I got better results by taking the other option, and having the PINE client send its mail by making an SMTP connection to the SMTP server (even though it was on the same machine). This may be less efficient, but it works for me. I haven't messed with that for a while, and my recollection is getting dim, but try http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html for some notes I made at the time. -- best regards "Do the two dashes and a space count against my limit of 4 lines?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27196; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:54:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA29031 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:52:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA29021 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 21:52:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uy9sL-00038TC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 21:47 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: muzok@pacbell.net (muzo) Subject: using RFC 822 code in PINE Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 00:38:51 GMT Message-Id: <322ccf0f.87226557@SantaClara01.news.internex.net> hi, I need to write a mail conversion tool which reads mail files received by POP and stored in individual files and parses them for header, senders, addresses, body etc. Can someone give me some directions on how to use the RFC 822 code to do this ? My OS is Win NT/95 with VC++ 4.2 compiler. thanks muzo NT Kernel Driver Development Consulting (muzok@pacbell.net) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10961; Tue, 3 Sep 96 22:13:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA21752 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:06:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA21747 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 22:06:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyA5W-00038UC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 22:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Balaji C Krishnan Subject: A question regarding threading Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 16:09:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I currently use Pine to read my mails. From using Tin I know that it is possible to thread messages so that all the messages on a particular topic appear together. I am teaching a course this semester and am going to teach my students the Pine. I was wondering if it may be possible for them to thread the messages using Pine. Can you please tell me if the facility exists in either Pine or in Netscape. Thanks. Balaji ********************************************************************** Balaji C Krishnan 3450, Nicholson Dr. # 2005, Baton Rouge, LA 70802. Good Morning is an oxymoron for any Home # 504 338 0986 Doctoral student and Assistant Professor. Off # 504 388 8797 *********************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12265; Tue, 3 Sep 96 23:42:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA22836 for pine-info-out; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:36:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA22831 for ; Tue, 3 Sep 1996 23:36:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyBVq-00038BC; Tue, 3 Sep 96 23:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmarshall@TRENTU.CA (that Hot Wheels guy) Subject: Any way to send a distribution list? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 14:09:10 GMT Is there a way to send someone else a distribution list? Dave. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:27:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11107; Wed, 4 Sep 96 00:27:37 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA00745 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:21:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA00740 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 00:21:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyCEn-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 00:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 3 Sep 1996 21:31:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: Nancy McGough writes: > #! /bin/sh If you decide to use my `editsig' script, this first line needs to start in column 1 and *not* indented like I posted it. I.e., the first line should look like this: #! /bin/sh Sorry if the way I posted it was confusing. -Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:26:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12761; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:26:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA24097 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id BAA24092 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:19:08 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:14:45 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA27060; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:18:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:18:39 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Balaji C Krishnan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A question regarding threading In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Whilst Pine can't do "true threading" (by looking at articles' "Xref:" headers and working out which articles were replies to which others) it can approximate it (probably closely enough for your needs). The trick is, once you open a newsgroup, to use Pine's Sort command to order the articles by "Ordered Subject". This sorts them first by subject text and then, where these are the same, date and time of submission. You do this by typing the two keystrokes: $ O Note that you will have to do this for every folder you open, as it only affects the current index display; it does not remember the sorting for the future. If you wish you can alter the default sort order from Arrival to Ordered Subject in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. However this default order affects ALL your folders: Usenet News and ordinary (mail). For ordinary folders sorting by Arrival is often preferred, so you may want to think about which folders you will be opening more often and set the default sort order to be the best for those. This will minimise the number of times you have to use the "$" (Sort) command. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Balaji C Krishnan wrote: > Hi! > I currently use Pine to read my mails. From using Tin I know that > it is possible to thread messages so that all the messages on a > particular topic appear together. > I am teaching a course this semester and am going to teach my > students the Pine. I was wondering if it may be possible for them to > thread the messages using Pine. Can you please tell me if the facility > exists in either Pine or in Netscape. Thanks. > > > Balaji > ********************************************************************** > Balaji C Krishnan 3450, Nicholson Dr. # 2005, > Baton Rouge, LA 70802. > Good Morning is an oxymoron for any Home # 504 338 0986 > Doctoral student and Assistant Professor. Off # 504 388 8797 > *********************************************************************** > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12008; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:29:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA24142 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA24137 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyDBg-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Igor Zykh Subject: Help: Pine for Solaris 2.x on Pentium? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:36:30 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I'm looking for compiled (I would prefer that) version of PINE 3.95 for Solaris 2.x running on Pentium. Does anybody know where I can download it? Any help would be very appreciated. Sincerely yours, Igor Zykh Computer Science Department, Telephone: (401) 874-2701 Tyler Hall, Fax: (401) 874-4617 University of Rhode Island Email: igor@cs.uri.edu Kingston, RI 02881 WWW: http://www.cs.uri.edu _________________________________________________________________________ RTSORAC Research Lab http://www.cs.uri.edu/rtsorac/index.html _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:57:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id BAA01964 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usm.my (usm.my [161.142.14.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id BAA01956 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 01:47:39 -0700 Received: by usm.my, id AA31860 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:44:55 +0800 (MYt) Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:44:55 +0800 (MYt) From: ahmad_b_ismail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID XI7QJ): c (fwd) Message-Id: Organization: Universiti Sains Malaysia Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Did you get my messages. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 4 Sep 96 01:06:51 -0700 From: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: ahmad_b_ismail Subject: Re: Bug (ID XI7QJ): c ************************************************************************* * The Pine Robot has determined that your message was sent from an * * obsolete release of Pine. Naturally, our focus is on the current * * version, which may well solve the problem you are experiencing, so * * please ask your system administrator to install the latest release. * * It's available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z * * * * --The Pine Team * ************************************************************************* This is an automated response to your Pine[R] bug report. The purpose of this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, and 3) tell you how to get more information or help. Pine is now used by literally millions of people around the world, and thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no longer possible to answer all of them individually. Other sources of help: o In addition to Pine's context-sensitive internal help text, also read the Release Notes (the R command on the Main Menu.) o Check out the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list. To get a copy by email, simply REPLY to this message, or send any message to: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the world-wide "pine-info" email list at: pine-info@cac.washington.edu or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. o If you are handy with FTP or WWW tools, you may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information Center servers: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development team directly, send a message to: pine@cac.washington.edu However: please try all the other alternatives first, and understand that because so many people are now sending messages to that address as well --many of which are inquiries that could be answered by reading the documentation or FAQ-- it is no longer possible for us to respond to all of them. Note that we get many questions that are not actually about Pine. In case your inquiry concerns programs such as talk, chat, or IRC, or problems with disk space on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses, please contact your local computer support staff. However, we still welcome actual bug reports and suggestions. With sincere apologies for this impersonal response, The Pine Development Team Pine is a registered trademark University of Washington of, and copyright by, the Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:16:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13888; Wed, 4 Sep 96 03:16:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id DAA02906 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:11:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id DAA02901 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 03:11:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyEtk-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 03:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lillqvis@cc.Helsinki.FI (Holger Lillqvist) Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. Date: 28 Aug 1996 16:17:52 GMT Message-Id: <501rfg$ebe@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> References: <4vurml$ris@hummin.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Mark Jenks: : Pine Development Team: Would it be possible to include a command like : option that would give the status of a folder (default: INBOX). : 2 New messages, 5 Old messages, Last time Pine used, etc.. There exist separate small programs to do that. Check if your system has the handy frm (and check 'man frm' or 'frm -h' for information on the several command line options). It is a good idea to activate this at login with a line in the .login -file. By the way, frm is from the elm team... -- hl From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15823; Wed, 4 Sep 96 06:17:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA27709 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA27704 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 06:12:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyHha-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 06:09 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Hereth Subject: Re: Q: changing the "From"-Field in outgoing messages Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 08:53:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5010qv$eel@sun168.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Thank you to all who answered. That's the solution: I changed the option ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM in the file pine/osdep/os-lnx.h and then recompiled the binaries. Then I added a proper "From:..."-header to the customized headers. Seems to work fine. Ralf Hereth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:09:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19579; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:09:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA08373 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA08368 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyKOP-00038UC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Schuller Subject: Trivial question Date: 4 Sep 1996 12:47:33 GMT Message-Id: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Hi all, I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? Many thanks for help +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:35:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13244; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:35:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA01823 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA01818 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26980; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:27:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:27:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: Jean Schuller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > -- Hi all, > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > Many thanks for help NOT TRIVIAL AT ALL. TRY ^W THEN ^V WILL TAKE YOU TO THE END OF THE DOC. ^W IS THE SEARCH MODE WHEN COMPOSING. WHEN READING IT SHOULD DO TO JUST TYPE W WITHOUT THE CONTROL KEY GOOD LUCK From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19989; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:35:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA09167 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id JAA09162 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 09:30:39 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:26:32 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id RAA11848; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:30:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 17:30:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jean Schuller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: <50jtp5$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" ^W then either ^V (to move to the end) or ^Y (to move to the top). PS. Please could you give a more meaningful Subject line when posting queries in the future? Thanks! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > -- Hi all, > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > Many thanks for help > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | > | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | > | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | > | Batiment 22 | | > | Boite Postale 28 CR | | > | 23, Rue du Loess | | > | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | > | FRANCE | | > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17222; Wed, 4 Sep 96 10:08:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA02906 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:02:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA02901 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:02:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyLH2-00038WC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 09:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vasily Lewis Subject: Re: probs w/ use-only-domain-name Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 02:20:25 -0500 Message-Id: <322D2DB9.2E2@woodsoup.org> References: <322913EC.4AA2@iastate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vasily Lewis wrote: > > Ahoy, > > Having recently installed pine 3.95, I am having problems w/ the > use-only-domain-name directive. I have defined this in > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed and I have verified its implimentation > by perusing the "Config" part of "Setup" from w/ in the pine program. > use-only-domain-name = Yes is what is displayed. > > The symptoms are as follows: When composing a new messages, and > inserting in a local user name into the "To:" section, pine correctly > expands that to "GECOS" (this appears correct! Not > server.domain.org). However, I fire off the message, and invoke pine > to read it, the mail header reads w/: > To: login@server.domain.org > From: login@server.domain.org > > Agg. Quite frustrating. I have tried also setting the user-domain > directive w/ the same results. Help would be muchly appreciated. This > is a NetBSD system (based on 4.4BSD-lite) and as i said earlier, this > is pine 3.95. I'm no sendmail guru, perhaps sendmail is influencing > this? > > -Vasily Lewis I'm still looking for help on this. Anybody? -Vasily Lewis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:59:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11196; Wed, 4 Sep 96 10:59:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA11600 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:54:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from online.no (pat.online.no [193.212.1.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id KAA11592 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 10:54:17 -0700 Received: from W (skien312.telepost.no [193.212.103.144]) by online.no (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA05187 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:53:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199609041753.TAA05187@online.no> Date: Wed, 04 Sep 96 17:57:43 -0700 From: Marius Berstad X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1 (Windows; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I`m boy from Norway i am very intersted in hemp and need to get some information about you guys From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:31:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23739; Wed, 4 Sep 96 13:31:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA07812 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA07807 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 13:26:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyOSO-00038WC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 13:21 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:52:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> You can't with Pine 3.91. In Pine 3.95, use something like inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Sep 1996, Nirad Sharma wrote: > From: Nirad Sharma > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name > Date: 1 Sep 1996 23:40:32 GMT > Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Queensland > Message-ID: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> > NNTP-Posting-Host: oboe.cs.uq.edu.au > X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.0 #7 (NOV) > > I wish to use pine (3.91, linux) to access a mailbox on a remote host using > imap but the mailbox is for myself under a different username. How do I > appropriately specify this for the inbox-path variable ? > > Nirad. > -- > Nirad Sharma, Computer Science, University of Queensland. 4072. Australia > http://www.cs.uq.edu.au/~nirad > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29729; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:07:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA15098 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA15093 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:03:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyTkG-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 11:32:45 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On 27 Aug 1996, Georg Schwarz wrote: > Can I configure pine to automatically include a '--' =B4line before the > signature (if there is one) short of explicitly including the '--' line > into my signature file?` On 3 Sep 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: > Yes, this is what I do. I use .signature for most programs and .sig-- > for pine. Here's a script I use to edit my sig, which I call `editsig': >=20 [omitted for brevity] Another way to add a signature with "-- " prepended is to configure the following script as a sending-filter: =09#!/bin/csh =09cat =09echo "-- " =09cat ~/.signature =09 You will also want to unset the "signature-file" in the setup/Config screen. If you select the compose-send-offers-first-filter feature, it will automatically be added by default when you send each message. It would be trivial to extend this script to add random sigs, etc. Note that this will always add the sig at the bottom of the message (even forwarded messages) regardless of the signature-at-bottom feature setting.=20 --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00458; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:01:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA23881 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA23875 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUdf-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Chatterley Subject: Filter question Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:23:56 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hiya, there've been a few notes about filter passed through here -- in reference to kill files mostly, I'm just wondering what I have to do to get filter to work on the mail I read with pine. My mail is collected via a POPCLIENT script, from my ISP. Anyone who knows how to set filter up (ie setup a rule to delete certain messages), please get in touch :-) Regards, -Matt Chatterley http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html "May you live in.. Interesting Times." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00415; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:01:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id TAA15791 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id TAA15786 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 19:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUdO-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:39:54 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > On Mon, 2 Sep 1996, Jago wrote: > > > Go to Setup/Config and see what the value for "composer-wrap-column" > > is. If it's 0 or if it's set wider than what your screen can display, > > there's your problem. A good rule of thumb, IMO, is to set it from 74 to > > 78 since most users operate at a width of 80 columns. Hope this helps! > > I should make a correction. You can set the margin any width you want. > It's just a good idea to not exceed 80 columns. Sorry for the slight > confusion. Best regards..... > Pine does not allow composer-wrap-column to be over 80 characters (unless you re-compile with a higher limit...) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00522; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:05:53 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA15882 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA15875 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUfR-00038TC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mponsfor@uvaix3e1.comp.UVic.CA (Mark Ponsford) Subject: How do you predefine a value for the subject header? Date: Wed, 04 Sep 1996 14:39:25 -0700 Message-Id: I'm attempting to setup a form letter so that the subject header and main body are predefined. I want it such that all the pine user need do is enter the recipient email address and send it. The main body of text is simply the signature file. No problem there. But in trying to predefine the subject header, no luck. I went into the configuration section of PINE 3.9.3 and tried setting a customized-hdr value for the subject header. When I compose a new message, the assigned value is visible in the subject header. Everything appears to be OK, and then I send the message. Unfortunately, when the recipient reads the email, the subject header info is blank. Any ideas? Mark Ponsford System Tech University of Victoria mponsfor@uvic.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22162; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:06:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA23974 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA23969 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUfw-00038UC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Any way to send a distribution list? Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:58:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, that Hot Wheels guy wrote: > Is there a way to send someone else a distribution list? > In Pine 3.92 or later, go to the Addressbook screen, move the cursor to the distribution list, and Forward it. If the recipient is using Pine 3.92 or later, they can View the attachment, then TakeAddr to drop the list in their addressbook... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:07:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00499; Wed, 4 Sep 96 20:07:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id UAA23964 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id UAA23959 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 20:03:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyUex-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 19:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Solaris 2.5 x86 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 14:49:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <322C350C.41E4@soi.city.ac.uk> On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Marshall wrote: > Has anyone had problems using pine (3.95) on solaris 2.5.1 x86? > > Specifically when using pine to send mail via smtp, my machines > lockup and need to be rebooted. > There is a bug in Solaris 2.5 STREAMS that causes a system hang and which Pine 3.95 can trigger. I don't know if Sun has come out with a fix yet, but the following Pine patch has been proposed by Bo Kullmar . It is reported to work for some people and not for others... *** tcp_unix.c~ Tue Apr 9 21:44:53 1996 --- tcp_unix.c Thu Aug 22 21:00:50 1996 *************** *** 200,206 **** if (i > 0) { /* success, make sure really connected */ fcntl (sock,F_SETFL,flgs); /* restore blocking status */ /* get socket status */ ! while ((i = read (sock,tmp,0)) < 0 && errno == EINTR); if (!i) i = 1; /* make success if the read is OK */ } if (i <= 0) { /* timeout or error? */ --- 200,207 ---- if (i > 0) { /* success, make sure really connected */ fcntl (sock,F_SETFL,flgs); /* restore blocking status */ /* get socket status */ ! /* while ((i = read (sock,tmp,0)) < 0 && errno == EINTR);*/ ! i = 1; if (!i) i = 1; /* make success if the read is OK */ } if (i <= 0) { /* timeout or error? */ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:17:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01431; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:17:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA16710 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:14:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA16705 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:14:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyVoB-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Suggestion Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 16:43:52 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I sometimes have the need to Export my entire addressbook instead of just an entry at a time. I know that I could just copy my .addressbook file and use that, but it isn't formated in any way. I would have to add spaces to all my addresses when I'm in my word processor. Is it possible to have it output similar to how it outputs when I choose the Print command? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:46:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01753; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:46:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id VAA25151 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id VAA25146 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 21:44:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyWFD-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 21:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David A. Hollman" Subject: Re: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:18:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> > I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for > Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my > machine. > > The build for pico stops dead with: > cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 > make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 I don't know too much about compilers, but perhaps you want to try a different one? Unless I am mistaken (not unlikely, sorry to say) cc1 runs as part of the cc compiler. Perhaps you could edit the build or makefiles to use gcc instead...? David From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02330; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:02:27 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id WAA26027 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:59:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id WAA26022 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:59:23 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA14045; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:59:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:59:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Trivial question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Many thanks to all for your fast and efficient help. +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > ^W then either ^V (to move to the end) or ^Y (to move to the top). > > PS. Please could you give a more meaningful Subject line when posting > queries in the future? Thanks! > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 4 Sep 1996, Jean Schuller wrote: > > > -- Hi all, > > > > I have a very long mail and I want to go to the end of it, is there > > a way to do it without typing "Next page" n times???? > > > > Many thanks for help > > > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > > | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | > > | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | > > | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | > > | Batiment 22 | | > > | Boite Postale 28 CR | | > > | 23, Rue du Loess | | > > | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | > > | FRANCE | | > > +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31215; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:37:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id XAA18260 for pine-info-out; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id XAA18255 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:34:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyXzP-00038BC; Wed, 4 Sep 96 23:32 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David A. Hollman" Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:21:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > You can't with Pine 3.91. In Pine 3.95, use something like > > inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? Mercy buckets From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 01:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30864; Thu, 5 Sep 96 01:03:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id AAA27454 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:59:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id AAA27449 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 00:59:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyZIJ-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 00:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) Subject: No text in message? Date: 1 Sep 1996 16:41:54 GMT Message-Id: <50ceci$baf@sgi.computek.net> I upgraded my Linux kernel to 2.0.x series, and along with that I got Pine 3.93 running. This was from a fresh Slackware re-install from a perfectly working 1.2.13 kernel. No when I download my email via popclient, my Pine shows a: 1 [ No text in this message ] Or something similar to that, for EACH message that I receive. No other users on my computer have this problem. Incoming mail straight through my sendmail does not do this, and neither does downloading the email to a different computer (via same POP server). Any ideas here? TIA, cc's via email really appreciated.. -- Scott Moseman hemicuda@computek.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05122; Thu, 5 Sep 96 06:04:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id FAA01200 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:57:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id FAA01194 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 05:57:22 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA16153; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:57:03 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 14:57:02 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Holger Lillqvist Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Command line option wanted. In-Reply-To: <501rfg$ebe@oravannahka.Helsinki.FI> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 28 Aug 1996, Holger Lillqvist wrote: > There exist separate small programs to do that. Check if your system ha= s > the handy frm (and check 'man frm' or 'frm -h' for information on the > login with a line in the .login -file. By the way, frm is from the elm > team... I got it inside of Elm ME+ (MIME Elm). Regardless of that frm does _not_ support RFC 1522 =3D> is unusable for me and many others :-( V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32719; Thu, 5 Sep 96 06:09:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id GAA22738 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mickey.iafrica.com (mickey.iafrica.com [196.7.0.133]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id GAA22733 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 06:05:40 -0700 Received: from dugm by mickey.iafrica.com with local (Exim 0.55 #1) id E0uye7h-0008AW-00; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:05:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:05:29 +0200 (GMT+0200) From: Douglas Morgan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: filtering Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi could you explain the mail filtering with procmail ,how to etc . I get a lot of mail and need to filter it. thanks doug. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:06:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05968; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:06:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23370 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:00:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23365 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:00:14 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59:24/EUnetD-2.5.4.c) via EUnet id PAA18646; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:55 +0200 Message-Id: <199609051357.PAA07056@mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net> Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id PAA07056; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:57:25 +0200 From: Rudolf Kompf Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:48:11 +0200 (MET DST) To: Douglas Morgan Cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: filtering In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Douglas Morgan wrote: -> Hi could you explain the mail filtering with procmail ,how -> to etc . I get a lot of mail and need to filter it. -> -> thanks doug. -> You should get the procmail-package from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz, unpack it, and read the docs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06067; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:14:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA02179 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA02174 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyf5w-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Lerperger Subject: Set From: field without ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 22:50:18 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How to set your "From:" field in pine without having ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM set in the pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-XXX.h file? Postpone your e-mail, edit ~/mail/postponed-msgs to set your "From:" field as desired and load the message back into pine. Will happily use the new "From:" entry. Bug or feature? -Michael From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:15:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04522; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:15:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23525 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23520 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyf5j-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Need help compiling in MkLinux Date: 5 Sep 1996 04:25:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <50hrda$ojv@guysmiley.blarg.net> On Wed, 4 Sep 1996 23:18:47 -0400, David A. Hollman wrote: >> I have the 3.95 version of Pine to install (hopefully). I have MkLinux for >> Power Macintosh (running on OSF-RI MACH 3.0) Linux 1.2.13 running on my >> machine. >> >> The build for pico stops dead with: >> cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 >> make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 > >I don't know too much about compilers, but perhaps you want to try a >different one? Unless I am mistaken (not unlikely, sorry to say) cc1 runs >as part of the cc compiler. Perhaps you could edit the build or makefiles >to use gcc instead...? No, cc1 does "run" as part of gcc. I would not be surprised if cc was softlinked to gcc under MkLinux as it is under most other Linux distributions. Something that may help with sig11 problems is to look at: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11 Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. Department of Oncology email: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu University of Wisconsin-Madison tel: (608) 262-6697 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:27:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06293; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:27:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA23724 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:25:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id HAA23719 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:25:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyfMT-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: per-lund@mars.dsv.su.se (Per Lundberg) Subject: Setup - char string Date: 5 Sep 1996 09:42:33 GMT Message-Id: <50m7a9$jug@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does any on know what ISO string to put in charachter string in the setup to get Swedish charachters ? Please e-mail Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:46:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04864; Thu, 5 Sep 96 07:46:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id HAA02464 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:30:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch (mail1.cern.ch [137.138.128.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id HAA02459 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 07:30:09 -0700 Received: from sp062.cern.ch (sp062.cern.ch [137.138.246.162]) by mail1.cern.ch with ESMTP id QAA07179 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6 for ); Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:07 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (marta@localhost) by sp062.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA45418 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:05 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: sp062.cern.ch: marta owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:30:03 +0200 (METDST) From: Marta Felcini X-Sender: marta@sp062 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: mailing a text file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. Best regards, Marta Felcini From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27334; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:11:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA03225 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:05:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA03214 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:05:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyfyg-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:48:15 +0200 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, David A. Hollman wrote: > > inbox-path={server.domain/user=foo}INBOX > > Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, > inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? Good Lord, why would you want to do this? You might as well go ahead and write your password on a post-it note and leave it on your monitor. Or better, on a public terminal somewhere (don't forget your account name and machine name too). The only use I could see for this (and I have wanted it for this reason) is for anonymous IMAP login, specified as /user=anonymous and you enter your e-mail address as password. Otherwise, anyone could read your password on the other system from your pinerc file. You don't want that, do you? Barry Bouwsma From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08020; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:25:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA24679 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA24674 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:21:28 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:17:08 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA26706; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:21:10 +0100 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:21:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the screen. ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > Best regards, > Marta Felcini > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:49:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26235; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:49:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA04130 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with ESMTP id IAA04121 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id RAA17619; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:44:29 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:44:28 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Leanne McKay Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Obvious return address problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 4 Sep 1996, Leanne McKay wrote: > I have appreciated ;-) this feature since old version 3.05, which > I've just swapped for 3.91. In my recently saved messages, I > still get 'To:..' but my older messages suddenly just showed=20 > my name as the sender. > Upon investigating, I found out that pine 3.91 is putting=20 > straight in the 'From:' of recent messages, > but the earlier version used the $NAME environment variable > which had 'L.McKay', so 'From:' had (an > alias happily recognised on my system for returns). > Pine now thinks I am . > Consequently, Pine does not know I wrote the old messages. I do not know 3.05 but I suppose thi sfeature was removed due to a risc that some users might fake their From: addresses. If you upgrade to 3.95 (a few months old version -- the newest one) than you can set alternative addresses you want to be recognized by pine as yours. Another reason for changing to the new version is the ability to decode RFC 1522's encoding thus seeing my name in From: properly :-) Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08602; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:49:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id IAA25303 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id IAA25297 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 08:45:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uygU8-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:36 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) Subject: Nice feature! (3.95) Message-Id: <1996Sep5.132514.58468@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:25:14 GMT I run Pine under unix on a remote system, to which I am connected by telnet. I have just discovered that if I hit Y, Pine will print the current message (or index), on my local printer. That's wonderful! Thank you. I would run Pine locally too, on my OS/2 system, but our firewall won't transmit IMAP packets, only ftp and telnet. :-( The printing feature above makes this difficulty much more livable-with. I am also using the ability to invoke Kermit for down/up loading of files and messages, which is also great. I haven't worked out how to get Kermit to use APC calls when invoked by Pine: has anyone? Dominik -- Best wishes, Dominik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09134; Thu, 5 Sep 96 09:07:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id JAA04502 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id JAA04497 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 09:00:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uygmy-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 08:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christophe Harbine Subject: Slow connection to IMAP server ? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:33:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing the following problem : We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... Thanks for your help. Amicalement, /\ Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11183; Thu, 5 Sep 96 10:16:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id KAA06556 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:11:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id KAA06551 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:11:28 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA26316 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:11:26 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:11:26 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: slow pine, solved!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in excitement...). I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... ciao bboett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14321; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:24:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA01134 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA01129 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:20:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyjwW-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Posert <73174.304@CompuServe.COM> Subject: No Message Text Available in News Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:57:41 GMT Message-Id: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> I'm trying to read the Microsoft newsgroups from a UNIX box where I have little disk space and less permissions. Pine seemed like the easy way to do this. I downloaded the HPUX binary for pine (not IMAPD or pico yet), and configured pine to use msnews.microsoft.com for a nntp server per http://www.washington.edu/pine/secrets.html I could subscribe to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.scripting, but all of the articles show "No Message Text Available." Any ideas? Thanks, Bob -- bposert@filenet.com My words are my own From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10358; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:28:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id MAA10269 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:25:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id MAA10264 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 12:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyk1b-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 12:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Kelleher Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! Date: 30 Aug 1996 13:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <506riv$7i@public.concorde.com> References: <504m9d$sv8@angel.cs.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) wrote: > > >Hi all PINE gurus (and some half-baked guru-wannabes) > Sometime back, I had posted a query, as follows: >While replying, PINE starts the message with > On wrote: >Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. >Someone told me to look into Setup-Config (as if!) and some others posted >followups saying they didn't find it. > Now will a real guru come forward and show me the path to Nirvana? >- Narendra. >-- You can't change this without hacking the pine source code. It's in a file called reply.c. Unless you're willing to do that, there isn't any way to change the message. Kevin Kelleher From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:41:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15661; Thu, 5 Sep 96 13:41:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id NAA03126 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:35:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id NAA03121 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 13:35:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyl8C-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 13:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Coolens Hugo Subject: Configure news collections Date: 5 Sep 1996 13:52:04 GMT Message-Id: <50mlu4$hl4@vivaldi.belnet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to configure my pine news collections setup, however the syntax I have to use is a mystery to me. I already figured out that the following works: *{news.belnet.be/nntp}[sci.electronics.design} But I want to have other groups in the same collection, e.g. comp.sys.atari.st How should I do this? regards, Hugo Coolens coolens@kiho.be From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18581; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:04:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA14257 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:01:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA14252 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:01:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymP3-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 14:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:48:00 +0200 Message-Id: References: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50n7r5$gh0$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> On 5 Sep 1996, Bob Posert wrote: > I'm trying to read the Microsoft newsgroups [...] > configured pine to use > msnews.microsoft.com > for a nntp server per > http://www.washington.edu/pine/secrets.html > I could subscribe to microsoft.public.internetexplorer.scripting, > but all of the articles show "No Message Text Available." Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. That will work to read the groups with Pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18710; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:33:56 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA05743 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA05736 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymv5-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: Sometimes + does not indicate personal mail Date: 5 Sep 1996 16:47:03 GMT Message-Id: <50n067$2nq@news.fred.net> I am on one mailing list which is using version 6.0 of ListProcessor software - and all the messages from that list show up in my mailbox with a + beside them which is supposed to indicate a personal message. Is this a bug of this list software? Or is this a Pine problem? --Kathy Bilton http://www.fred.net/kathy/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19262; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:34:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA14953 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA14948 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uymv7-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: merlin@eagle.wbm.ca (Ernie Werezak) Subject: Offline reader for PINE? Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 19:11:08 GMT Message-Id: <50n5nh$71f@supra.wbm.ca> Does anyoen know if there is ANY offline readers for PINE. I am connecting to PINE with a text base program, and I get lost of messages, but no time to answer them all, I was wondering if there was an offline reader for PINE. If you know of any information, please email me at merlin@eagle.wbm.ca Thanks. Ernie From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19363; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:59:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id PAA06254 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:56:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id PAA06249 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 15:56:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uynJk-00038XC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 15:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morse@his.com (Michael Morse) Subject: Re: Off line reader Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 21:31:16 GMT Message-Id: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> References: >I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with >Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all >you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 >... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. I'm not sure what you mean by an off-line reader, and I've never tried it, but you might want to look at PC-PINE. You'll need an IMAP server. --Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20027; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:08:57 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) id QAA15725 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:06:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.08) with SMTP id QAA15720 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:06:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uynSR-00038UC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:03 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: "follow-up to" line: how? Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 10:27:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to get a follow-up to line among the headers on messages I want to post (seldom, I hope) to a group whose robomoderator requires that, short of reconfiguring my default headers and having the fool thing hanging up there in the way every time I start a message? R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19214; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:43:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA07273 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch (mail1.cern.ch [137.138.128.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id QAA07268 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:40:03 -0700 Received: from sp058.cern.ch (sp058.cern.ch [137.138.128.251]) by mail1.cern.ch with ESMTP id BAA09845 (8.7.5/IDA-1.6); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:02 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (marta@localhost) by sp058.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA70394; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:01 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: sp058.cern.ch: marta owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:40:01 +0200 (METDST) From: Marta Felcini X-Sender: marta@sp058 To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Marta Felcini , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get at the bottom of the page while composing a message: ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O Postpone ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To AddrBk so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the > Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the > screen. > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > > Best regards, > > Marta Felcini > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10967; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:49:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA07422 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA07417 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:46:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyo5n-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:44 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tulpule@cs.unc.edu (Narendra Tulpule) Subject: Saving messages from user1 into folder user2 Date: 5 Sep 1996 10:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: <50mp5r$as0@hydra.cs.unc.edu> Hi, I'd like to store messages from user1@domain1.ext1 into a folder user2 by default. How can I do it? (All other incoming message saves should be unaffected. I am using PINE-3.91. Any help/&help appreciated! - Naren. -- ================================================================ Naren / email:tulpule@cs.unc.edu / 919-962-1937(office)/ SN039. http://www.cs.unc.edu/~tulpule talk:tulpule@boulanger.cs.unc.edu ================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09963; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:00:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA16825 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:57:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA16817 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 16:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoDS-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 16:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ayorinks@monmouth.com (Alan Yorinks) Subject: Porting Problem -Fcc Date: Thu, 05 Sep 1996 15:32:44 GMT Message-Id: <50mrih$pck@news.monmouth.com> I am porting Pine to the QNX operating system. I am able to send a message if I don't have the Fcc folder configured (I set it as empty). If I specify an Fcc folder, I get the following behavior. The first, the folder is created and the message is sent without a problem. The next time (and all subsequent messages) when I select Send for the message, I am told that the Fcc folder doesn't exist - but it really does. If I ask the system to create the folder, it tells me that the folder already exists - which is true. Does anyone have any ideas as to why in open_fcc() the program thinks that the Fcc folder does not exist. Thanks, Alan Yorinks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20786; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:10:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17161 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA17153 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:06:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoPz-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "DTC Supernet Retail" Subject: Email Forwarding Date: 5 Sep 1996 15:58:55 GMT Message-Id: <01bb9b40$84507c20$03dcf2ce@n3.te.dtc.net> Email & domain mail forwarding free at www.xmail.com -- DTC Towne East Square - upper level outside of Sears We carry internet related books, and software. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21773; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:38:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17717 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helios.acomp.usf.edu (helios.acomp.usf.edu [131.247.100.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA17712 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:34:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (kwaldsch@localhost) by helios.acomp.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA17922 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:35:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:35:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" X-Sender: kwaldsch@helios To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: receiving mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: I am a new pine user and still need some practice with the surfing! Please send me a quick "hello" so that I know this really works. I'm at kwaldsch@helios.acomp.usf.edu Please use my nickname "THUMPER" in your brief message. This is greatly appreciated. Thanks a million!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:52:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21788; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:52:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA17889 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id RAA17884 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:41:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyoxK-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 17:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gareth Boden Subject: Re: using imap to access remote mailbox with different account name Date: 05 Sep 1996 16:40:04 +0100 Message-Id: References: <50d6tg$rrh@miso.cs.uq.edu.au> =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= writes: > > Is there a way to also specify the password on that line? ie, > > inbox-path={mail.server/user=foo/password=bar)INBOX ? > > The only use I could see for this (and I have wanted it for this > reason) is for anonymous IMAP login, specified as /user=anonymous and you > enter your e-mail address as password. Otherwise, anyone could read your > password on the other system from your pinerc file. You don't want that, > do you? Surely you could deny read access to the file for other users? Or are we talking about a shared DOS machine here? Gareth -- __ /| Gareth Boden (my opinions are my own) \'o.O' .. APM Ltd, Poseidon House, Castle Park, CAMBRIDGE, England, UK. =(___)= .... gdb@ansa.co.uk | http://squeak.fitz.cam.ac.uk/~gdb20/ U ...... What if there were no hypothetical questions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:02:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21789; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:02:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA08813 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from helios.acomp.usf.edu (helios.acomp.usf.edu [131.247.100.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA08808 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 17:57:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (kwaldsch@localhost) by helios.acomp.usf.edu (8.7.1/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA18309 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:59:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:59:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" X-Sender: kwaldsch@helios Reply-To: "Kirsten Waldschmidt (NDS)" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: receiving e-mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is THUMPER at kwaldsch@helios.acomp.usf.edu and I was just wondering if you received my first message yet? Please respond again with a quick "hello". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22492; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:35:05 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA09365 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA09360 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 18:31:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uypiR-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 18:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: 5 Sep 1996 18:33:31 GMT Message-Id: <50n6dr$aus@samba.rahul.net> References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> In "Alan J. Flavell" writes: >I had also "heard" if before, but when I challenged the informant for >chapter and verse, they merely told me they "knew" that this was the >rule. So I was, and apparently we all still are, unaware of who makes >this rule and where it is documented. Look in the B-news and C-news source code. >Quite so. My only real reason for following-up is in an attempt >to provoke someone into "naming their source". Literally. :-) -- Rahul Dhesi == "...Mark Crispin has the good sense to not blather away in newsgroups..." -- Wayne Hathaway From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22063; Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:41:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19666 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:35:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19647 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:34:56 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:39:27 +0800 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:31:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Chris Womack Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Replying In-Reply-To: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Womack wrote: > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > > to appear after the quoted text? > > > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > > > > RTFM or ? > > I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I > wonder > if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? > > Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these > options. I believe most people missed your question. You want your "cursor" to be placed at a specific point. That option does not exist. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 20:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23192; Thu, 5 Sep 96 20:00:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA19961 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:56:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA19956 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 19:56:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyr2f-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 19:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@oseda.missouri.edu (Steve Meyer) Subject: 3.95 on AIX 414 Date: 5 Sep 1996 21:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <50nhl0$1i8q@news.missouri.edu> Hello: We put pine 3.95 up on our AIX 4.1.4 box and it intermittently hangs when doing either a compose or a reply. Backing off to 3.91 still works great, except for posting a bug report to cac washington, whose robot said they wouldn't talk to us 'til we installed 3.95, which hangs when we compose. Uh-oh, I'm circular... Anyone else 'hanging' with 3.95 and AIX 4.1.4? Working? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven T. Meyer /\ Traction /\ University of Missouri Outreach and Extension /\ Avant! /\ <<<<<<<<<<<<< http://www.oseda.missouri.edu/~steve/ <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25001; Thu, 5 Sep 96 22:47:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA12701 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:42:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA12696 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 22:42:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uytdt-00038TC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 22:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: 5 Sep 1996 20:06:19 -0600 Message-Id: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> AIX4.1.4 UNIX PINE3.95 Greetings .... We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... We receive calls from our clients in various situations, that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times since August and we have not heard from them yet. If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile config file with those of ours and see something we have not been able to see up to this point ... Thanks, Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25039; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:15:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA22320 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:12:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA22315 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:11:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyu4A-00038BC; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: PattyB Subject: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:28:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. Patty B... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:48:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25367; Thu, 5 Sep 96 23:48:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA13530 for pine-info-out; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:44:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA13525 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 1996 23:44:37 -0700 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA22549; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:44:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:44:34 +0200 (MET DST) From: Jean Schuller To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, When you are in "Compose" mode, you only have to use ^R to read an external file and insert it. Good luck with PINE. +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Jean SCHULLER | phone : (+33) 88 10 66 30 | | CENTRE DE RECHERCHES NUCLEAIRES | fax : (+33) 88 10 62 34 | | G T I - VMS/ DIGITAL UNIX | e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr | | Batiment 22 | | | Boite Postale 28 CR | | | 23, Rue du Loess | | | F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX | | | FRANCE | | +-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > Best regards, > Marta Felcini > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:42:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01473; Fri, 6 Sep 96 00:42:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA23480 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:38:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA23475 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:38:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyvQd-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 00:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sbuntin@pain.inthe.butt (Scott Buntin) Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions about Pine Date: 6 Sep 1996 04:51:04 GMT Message-Id: References: On Wed, 28 Aug 1996 11:47:02 -0400, Fred Heitkamp wrote: >On 20 Aug 1996, Richard G. Roberto wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Aug 1996, Stefan Kramer wrote: >> >> * * * snip * * * >> >> > >> > Can Pine be used with a POP server? >> > >> > No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently (as of version 3.95) support >> > POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail >> > server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it >> > is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either >> > IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. >> > > >I received a suggestion to try: >incoming-folders={pop3host.domain/pop3}MailBox_Name >and it didn't work. >First there is no incoming-folders option in the configuration that I saw. >Second, What do you do for a password, required for the pop mailbox? >Should pine prompt for a password? I am assuming that pine 3.91 on >Linux really can do POP. > >Fred Heitkamp > I'm running 3.90 - I do have an incoming-folders options, but it's blank. I *think* it's only useful if your mail comes in multiple folders on the POP server, or if you run procmail, or some such. I do, however, have the following in my .pinerc - inbox-path={pop.calweb.com}/var/spool/mail/sbuntin Pine prompts me for username and password upon connection to the server - It defaults to sbuntin, so I hit return, then have to manually enter the password. Pine does delete msgs from the inbox, as well. Scott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26496; Fri, 6 Sep 96 01:57:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA24375 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:50:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id BAA24370 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 01:49:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA23820 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:49:33 +0200 (METDST) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:49:33 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Howto customize reply quote... AGAIN! In-Reply-To: <506riv$7i@public.concorde.com> Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 30 Aug 1996, Kevin Kelleher wrote: > >While replying, PINE starts the message with > > On wrote: > >Please tell me if and how I can customize this line. > You can't change this without hacking the pine source code. > It's in a file called reply.c. Unless you're willing to do > that, there isn't any way to change the message. There is no direct option. But if you use 3.92-3.95, you can use sending-filter feature (mentioned here a week ago while talking about way of auto-adding ``-- '' separator by David L. Miller) to replace this string by a different one by a script (using awk or so). Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27372; Fri, 6 Sep 96 03:55:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA25587 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:50:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA25582 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:50:36 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:46:19 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA23603; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:18 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: R R Neuswanger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "follow-up to" line: how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" You can add your own custom headers to the set provided as standard by Pine in its Setup Configuration screen.... At the Main Menu type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration). Now look through the screen for a variable called "customized-hdrs". If you put your cursor on this and type "?" it will show you the online help for the item. Basically you can use this variable to add a list of additional (custom) headers with (optionally) default values for each. When you are composing a message they will not appear by default; to see/use them put your cursor on a header line and type ^R (Rich Header) to get the full list of headers available to you. (Note that if you do set up a default value for a custom header then it will be set and used even if you don't type ^R -- this is just to let you see them or change their value.) If you want a particualr header to be visible in the list you see when you compose a message (ie, without having to use ^R) you can do this in the Setup Configuration screen too. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, R R Neuswanger wrote: > Is there a way to get a follow-up to line among > the headers on messages I want to post (seldom, I hope) > to a group whose robomoderator requires that, short of > reconfiguring my default headers and having the fool > thing hanging up there in the way every time I start a > message? > > > R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life > rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of > 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism > I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27478; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:05:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA25644 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:58:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA25639 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 03:58:44 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:54:35 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA24747; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:40 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:40 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Marta Felcini Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing a text file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine uses "context sensitive menus" to offer commands relevant to the thing you are currently trying to do/modify. When composing a message ^R only means "Read File" when your cursor is position in the Message Text area (the large area into which you type the text of your message). If your cursor is on any of the header fields (eg, "To:", "Cc:", "Subject:", etc) then it is pretty meaningless to read the contents of a file into that field. So instead ^R is changed to mean "Rich Headers"; this shows you all the availabvle headers in place of the four you are shown by default. If you put the cursor somewhere in the Message Text area you will see the command menu now offers you the "^R Read File" option. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get > at the bottom of the page while composing a message: > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O > Postpone > ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To > AddrBk > > so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. > Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? > > > > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > When you're composing your message/reply and have the cursor in the > > Message Text area, try glancing at the command menu at the bottom of the > > screen. > > > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^Z Alt Edit ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text^T To Spell > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Mike Brudenell > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > > > > > Dear PINE developping team and/or expert user, > > > is there a way in PINE to insert a file (eg, just a simple piece of text) > > > while composing a message, not as an attachement, but as a text in the > > > message itself, which can be then modified as usual in PINE??? > > > Probably it's a very trivial thing, but I'm am quite new with PINE use > > > and I appreciate greatly your help for this little problem. > > > Best regards, > > > Marta Felcini > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23410; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:33:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA26249 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:28:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id EAA26219 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:27:49 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:23:40 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA28332; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:27:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:27:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Christophe Harbine , Bruno Boettcher Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The following may explain the effect you are seeing, and give you a way of improving connection speed without having to resort to the time-bomb of using numeric IP addresses... When Pine is configured to use IMAP for mail access it can open the connection in one of two ways: preauthenticated and unauthenticated. The former uses a clever technique to avoid you having to enter your username and password, but requires a small amount of configuration by the System Manager. Obviously the preauthenticated method is desirable to users, and so is tried first by Pine. If it fails (after a number of seconds) Pine then reverts to opening an unauthenticated connection and then prompting you to type in the authentication information. The delay you are experiencing could well be due to Pine attempting the preauthenticated connection, failing after timing out, and then switching to the other sort. (Although why changing the machine name to a numeric IP address enclosed in square brackets changes the behaviour I confess I don't know.) If this is indeed your problem then there you have two choices: persuade your System Manager to get preauthenticated connections working (which would save you having to type in your username and password each time); or tell Pine not to try the preauthenticated connection (which you know will always fail) and just open an unauthenticated connection straightaway. To allow preauthenticated connections the System Manager must, on the IMAP server computer, create a link so that "/etc/rimapd" links to the real imapd program. The next thing is for users to be able to link to the IMAP computer using the "rsh" command. This can be done by the System Manager for everyone by creating a "hosts.equiv" file, or by each user creating a ".rhosts" file on the IMAP computer. Seek advice before doing either of these, because if you get it wrong it can open up your username/system to others. The other alternative -- to bypass the attempt at opening a preauthenticated connection -- is achieved very simply by slightly altering the connection information in your Pine Setup Configuration screen. In the example given in the original message change inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox to inbox-path={imap.domain.fr:143/user=chris}inbox By supplying the IMAP port number explicitly (rather than leaving it to the default) you are telling Pine that you ALWAYS want it to open a connection to the (unauthenticated) IMAP service there. It stops Pine first trying the preauthenticated method. This should substantially increase connection speed for you whilst retaining the meaningful textual IP names. However you will still have to type in your username and password. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Christophe Harbine wrote: > > Hello, > > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 > and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing > the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > > 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > > 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox > > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about > 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). > With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( > about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server > side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > > Amicalement, /\ > Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique > / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France > /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in > excitement...). > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > ciao > bboett > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:46:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA26384 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA26379 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 04:37:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uyzAz-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 04:34 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Leanne McKay Subject: Re: mailing a text file Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:01:15 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi, Just move the cursor down until you are in the body of the message (under ----- Message Text -----) and the commands at the bottom of the screen will change. Mine now show: ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Read File ^Y Prev Pg ^K Cut Text ^O Postpone ^C Cancel ^J Justify ^W Where is ^V Next Pg ^U UnCut Text ^T To Spell I recommend spending some time nosing around the Pine 'help' if you're new, 'cos you'll find out some more of what Pine can do. Hope this helps. Leanne. On 5 Sep 1996, Marta Felcini wrote: > Sorry again... I tried your suggestion but this is what I get > at the bottom of the page while composing a message: > > ^G Get Help ^X Send ^R Rich Hdr ^Y PrvPg/Top ^K Cut Line ^O > Postpone > ^C Cancel ^D Del Char ^J Attach ^V NxtPg/End ^U UnDel Line^T To > AddrBk > > so none of the proposed commands can be used for including a file. > Do you understand while my ctrl R doesn't correspond to read file? ************************************************************** _________________ Leanne McKay T T T T T T T T lmckay@nla.gov.au I I I I I I I I National Library of Australia I I I I I I I I Phone: +61 6 262 1479 T T T T T T T T Fax: +61 6 273 3648 =================== ********************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28296; Fri, 6 Sep 96 06:03:35 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA17862 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 05:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA17857 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 05:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz0TR-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 05:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyhsu@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USER) Subject: HELP: ownership of .pinerc changed Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:36:54 GMT Message-Id: <50ddnm$nvd@voyager.iii.org.tw> Every month my .pinerc ownership is changed to root, not other users on the same system. Any ideas what caused this to happen? Thanks. Jun-ming Chen jmchen@whph.enlighting.com.tw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28424; Fri, 6 Sep 96 06:12:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA27392 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:05:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA27387 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 06:05:24 -0700 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 06 Sep 1996 13:54:48 +0100 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA02904; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:20 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:19 +0100 (BST) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 To: Christophe Harbine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Slow connection to IMAP server ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Christophe I had this problem with 3.91 and I suspect the problem is with the rsh responses from server. If so it can can be dealt with quite easily assuming 3.95 works the same way. (I no longer have an IMAP server to check) Pine tries to make an rsh connection first and waits till thats rejected before trying IMAP. In some configurations this can be very slow. To make pine go straight to imap include the port number a la inbox-path={imap.domain.fr:143/user=chris}inbox The difference between the two boxes is that your SunOS box is having difficulties resolving the IP address and you would need to look at your NIS/NIS+ configuration to deal with that. > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 > and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing > the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > > 1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > > 2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox > > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about > 30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). > With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( > about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server > side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > > Amicalement, /\ > Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique > / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France > /\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)181-986-5239 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)171-577-2741 Lea Bridge, E5-AX. | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:23:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12257; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:23:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28347 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov (rs8.loc.gov [140.147.248.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28342 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:17:16 -0700 Received: from localhost (rrne@localhost) by rs8.loc.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA132978; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:17:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:17:15 -0400 (EDT) From: R R Neuswanger Reply-To: R R Neuswanger To: to post Pine Cc: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: "follow-up to" line: how? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Aha! (Mike Brudenell explained how to modify the customized-headers line, as opposed to the default-headers line, which was all I'd spotted). My customized-headers line says ; I bet that means my gurus have decided I'm not to be trusted with tweaking them -- I wonder why .... R.R. (Beartooth) Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rrne@loc.gov Gun control, the opiate of 202.707.8747 (shared line) the intellectuals: elitism I speak for me. Only. laced with self-righteousness. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29415; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:38:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:33:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28577 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:33:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA23392; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:29:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:29:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: USENET NEWSGROUP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help...please. Does anyone know of a host for the newsgroup alt.food.low-fat I need to access this using IMAP or an NNTP server that does not need a special account or password as the ISP that my company is on does not carry any newsgroups. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29492; Fri, 6 Sep 96 07:43:17 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA28667 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA28662 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 07:38:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA112698; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by > Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way > that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point > to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. > That will work to read the groups with Pine So what is a REAL server? I have yet to find one! If you know of any please help me, as I had the same problem. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29545; Fri, 6 Sep 96 08:20:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA19769 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:13:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu (watsun.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id IAA19764 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:13:23 -0700 Received: (from brennan@localhost) by watsun.cc.columbia.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA07379; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 6 Sep 96 11:12:29 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: Andrea Gonzales Cc: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?krem=BEsk=E1_HO=D8=C8ICE?= , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: No Message Text Available in News In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:34:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: > > > Microsoft's news server is broken and doesn't give responses needed by > > Pine. This is their own server software, and it doesn't work the way > > that several newsreaders want it to. Give up. It's real broke. Point > > to any one of the real news servers with the M$ newsgroups on them. > > That will work to read the groups with Pine > > So what is a REAL server? I have yet to find one! If you know of any > please help me, as I had the same problem. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ANDREA D. GONZALES > adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com > > > The microsoft* newsgroups are not officially shared with any other site, and the report above is correct, it runs nonstandard server software, or one could say therefore not usenet news software. For some reason Microsoft likes it this way. Joseph Brennan Postmaster Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York postmaster@columbia.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:07:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31955; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:07:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA20885 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA20880 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:01:35 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp3.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp3.UU.NET [192.48.96.34]) id QQbgaa11622; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:01:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp3.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:01:32 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842024672 Fri, 06 Sep 96 08:44:32 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 08:44:32 Message-Id: <9608068420.AA842024672@mailya.yakima.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most complete news servers I have found. - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: USENET NEWSGROUP Author: Andrea Gonzales at INTERNET Date: 9/6/96 7:43 AM Help...please. Does anyone know of a host for the newsgroup alt.food.low-fat I need to access this using IMAP or an NNTP server that does not need a special account or password as the ISP that my company is on does not carry any newsgroups. Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:12:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31671; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:12:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA00791 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:08:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA00786 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:08:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3OX-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:04 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AL Subject: PINE & PICO Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:50:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can insert an ASCII file using pico with no problem. But how do I insert a binary file? -al. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31313; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:22:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21437 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:18:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21432 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:18:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3Xc-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cory Tsang Subject: PC-Pine and Samba Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:02:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm curious if I have SAMBA sharing out mail folders from a Unix box, would PC-Pine be able to read that inbox directly without having to deal with IMAP or POP? Cory please email responses. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31961; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:26:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA21559 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:23:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA21554 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:22:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25250; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:19:33 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:19:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: msw@mailya.yakima.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP In-Reply-To: <9608068420.AA842024672@mailya.yakima.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > > Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most > complete news servers I have found. > > - Michael Thanks...I did but I get a message "400 host not recognized in the autorization file. Perhaps my santax is wrong nntp = news.alterdial.uu.net news folder = *{news.alterdial.uu.net/nntp}[] Is that right? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:51:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00155; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:51:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01778 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:43:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA01773 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:43:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz3xr-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwe@unixfe.rl.ac.uk (Mike Ellwood) Subject: Re: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:03:26 GMT Message-Id: <50pi0e$5e4@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk> References: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> Farid Hamjavar (hamjavar@unm.edu) wrote: : AIX4.1.4 : UNIX PINE3.95 : Greetings .... : We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... : We receive calls from our clients in various situations, : that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, : and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a : Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on : debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags : on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable : to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. : I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times : since August and we have not heard from them yet. : If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX : PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile : config file with those of ours and see something we have not : been able to see up to this point ... For what it's worth, I also see this problem with PINE 3.95 running on AIX 4.1.3. I did not build the pine, but took the pre-compiled version. Apart from this problem, it works fine. I also sent in a fault report to the bug reporting e-mail address, some time in August. Actually sometimes I think if I just waited a bit longer, my session would come back, so more recently, if I seem to get the problem I just am more patient, and (so far) it usually does come back. (been doing that for about a week). Mike.Ellwood@rl.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27959; Fri, 6 Sep 96 09:53:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA01893 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:47:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com (dekalb.vf.mmc.com [192.35.35.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id JAA01887 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 09:47:49 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.lmco.com ([166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA21084; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.lmco.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA09386; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:47:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost by mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com (4.1/LMCO SunOS Server Nondomain-1.1) id AA02230; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:46:24 EDT Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:46:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman X-Sender: sugarman@mmpcs1 To: AL Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE & PICO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, AL wrote: > > I can insert an ASCII file using pico with no problem. > > But how do I insert a binary file? > > -al. > You don't. You need to attach a binary file using Ctrl-J in the header so that the binary file can be encoded (converted to ascii characters) for transmission as part of a mail message. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.lmco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01069; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:09:01 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA22655 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id KAA22641 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:01:40 -0700 From: msw@mailya.yakima.com Received: from uucp2.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp2.UU.NET [192.48.96.33]) id QQbgae26150; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:01:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailya.UUCP by uucp2.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:01:38 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by mailya.yakima.com id AA842029040 Fri, 06 Sep 96 09:57:20 Date: Fri, 06 Sep 96 09:57:20 Message-Id: <9608068420.AA842029040@mailya.yakima.com> To: "Pine email discussion group" Subject: Re[2]: USENET NEWSGROUP Andrea - I'm not familiar with the "400 host not recognized" error message. Sorry. It looks like you are using a WWW browser, and have properly set up the NTTP host name. Perhaps you should call the WWW browser company for more information on this specific message. Try simply using your email to subscribe to this news group, instead of trying to access it through whatever browser you're using. Hope this helps ... - Michael ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: USENET NEWSGROUP Author: Andrea Gonzales at INTERNET Date: 9/6/96 9:43 AM On Fri, 6 Sep 1996 msw@mailya.yakima.com wrote: > > Andrea, try news.alterdial.uu.net. This seems to be one of the most > complete news servers I have found. > > - Michael Thanks...I did but I get a message "400 host not recognized in the autorization file. Perhaps my santax is wrong nntp = news.alterdial.uu.net news folder = *{news.alterdial.uu.net/nntp}[] Is that right? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01203; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:22:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA23147 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:18:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA23142 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:18:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4U5-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:14 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henrik Johansson Subject: A way of adding extra headers? Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:07:09 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Is there a way of having pine add an extra header in an e-mail and/or usenet article. I looking for an easy way of adding the Approved: header for moderating a mailing list. Perhaps there is a better way than using Pine though, I don't know. Regards Henrik Johansson GlobeCom Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:34:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01848; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:34:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA02872 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:28:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA02867 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4e6-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:24 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: enable-sigdashes 3.95 patch Date: 2 Sep 1996 22:32:22 -0500 Message-Id: <50g8s6$b2j@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As I mentioned in a previous post, one of the things I think pine needs is an `enable-sigdashes' option, so that when appending a signature pine automatically places a "-- " on the line preceding the signature. Here's the patch I came up with to add an enable-sigdashes option to pine 3.95. I didn't spend a lot of time on it, so it could be (and probably is) buggy. Use at your own risk. I tried for a couple minutes to add help text, but couldn't get the text I had added to appear when the ? key was pressed, so I left the help text out. *** pine3.95/pine/init.c.orig Sun Sep 1 22:27:17 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/init.c Sun Sep 1 22:30:10 1996 *************** *** 1361,1366 **** --- 1361,1367 ---- {"enable-mouse-in-xterm", F_ENABLE_MOUSE}, {"enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon", F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL}, {"enable-suspend", F_CAN_SUSPEND}, + {"enable-sigdashes", F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES}, {"enable-tab-completion", F_ENABLE_TAB_COMPLETE}, {"enable-unix-pipe-cmd", F_ENABLE_PIPE}, {"enable-verbose-smtp-posting", F_VERBOSE_POST}, *** pine3.95/pine/reply.c.orig Mon Sep 2 22:22:35 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/reply.c Mon Sep 2 22:23:28 1996 *************** *** 2537,2542 **** --- 2537,2546 ---- sig = fs_get(strlen(tmp_sig) + 10); strcpy(sig, NEWLINE); strcat(sig, NEWLINE); + if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES, ps_global)){ + strcat(sig, "-- "); + strcat(sig, NEWLINE); + } strcat(sig, tmp_sig); fs_give((void **)&tmp_sig); } *** pine3.95/pine/pine.h.orig Mon Sep 2 22:22:52 1996 --- pine3.95/pine/pine.h Sun Sep 1 22:41:56 1996 *************** *** 1153,1159 **** #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! --- 1153,1160 ---- #define F_FROM_DELIM_IN_PRINT 80 #define F_BACKGROUND_POST 81 #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 ! #define F_ENABLE_SIGDASHES 83 ! #define F_LAST_FEATURE 83 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01904; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:37:00 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA23488 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:33:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA23480 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz4ho-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 10:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) Subject: Re: HPUX 10.x VT100 problems with vi, pine, etc Date: 2 Sep 1996 01:59:35 GMT Message-Id: <50df27$890@server05.icaen.uiowa.edu> References: <507uid$6vu@news.csus.edu> sandhoff@csus.edu (John F. Sandhoff) writes: >Ah, good 'ol HP. At 10.x, they redefined the definition of what a VT100 >looks like ('vt100 as defined by DEC vt420'), adding loads of new >definitions. Now, maybe a real VT100 is capable of all these nifty things, >but lots of the 'real world' emulators can't handle it all. Most notably to >us was that vi couldn't delete chars from the middle of a line, and neither >could pico or pine... Egads, I've seen this problems with HP-UX 10.10, and I assumed it was bugs in HP's curses library, since they seem to have made some fairly big changes there for 10.x. Since I had more important stuff going on from the 10.x upgrade, and other changes, I hadn't really put any effort into looking into this yet. But I never thought to check the terminfo definitions... Hey HP, you _really_ should change it back to how it was, I've had a lot of users using PC VT100 emulation software from home complaining about emacs, vi, pine, lynx, ncftp, etc. I know that at least some of was fixed by my trying this simple fix. Not working with standard PC terminal emulators is going to make people think that HP's quality is at fault, not the authors of the terminal emulators. Yes yes, I know, standards compliance and all that, but sometimes standards are determined by what is really out there, not what some ANSI standard document claims! If it isn't changed, I suspect it'll become one of those things that HP admins who know what they are doing do to systems after they are installed as a matter of course, while less knowledgeable admins will not know why their HP systems behave this way. And its these sort of details that cause people to prefer one sort of Unix system over another. -- Douglas Siebert Director of Computing Facilities douglas-siebert@uiowa.edu Division of Mathematical Sciences, U of Iowa "It is easier to apologize than to get permission" -- Grace Hopper From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03481; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:08:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA05073 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA05068 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz63J-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 11:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Kirchhoff Subject: Re: UNIX PINE3.95, AIX4.1.x freeze up ... Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 10:20:34 -0400 Message-Id: <32303332.41C6@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu> References: <50o0ur$3uvc@mirac.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > AIX4.1.4 > UNIX PINE3.95 > > Greetings .... > We have been trying to resolve this since Late July ... > > We receive calls from our clients in various situations, > that their PINE 3.95 session hangs; some indefinitely frozen, > and some intermittently get back to normal situation by doing a > Cntrl-Z and foregorunding the process .... We have turned on > debugging and turned SYSV style signaling flags > on and we tried many things but we seem to be unable > to find out why PINE3.95 freeze up on many of our clients. > > I e-mailed pine-info and pine-debug several times > since August and we have not heard from them yet. > > If you're a site with non-problematic usage of UNIX > PINE 3.95 under AIX4.1.4, maybe we can compare your pre-compile > config file with those of ours and see something we have not > been able to see up to this point ... > > Thanks, > Farid > hamjavar@unm.edu After a week of debugging I found the problem with Pine 3.95 apparently locking is an unitialized buffer being passed to the terminal setup routine in Pico. The fix is to update Pico to use terminfo. Steps: (in pico directory) 1. Edit makefile.a41 change tcap.c/tcap.o entries to tinfo.c/tinfo.o 2. Edit os_unix.h and update the following (note the added a41 define): /* Machine/OS definition */ #if defined(ptx) || defined(sgi) || defined(sv4) || defined(sco) || defined(a41) #define TERMINFO 1 /* Use TERMINFO */ #else #define TERMCAP 1 /* Use TERMCAP */ #endif 3. A little cleanup to tinfo.c (in routine tinfoopen()): if (Pmaster) { /* * setupterm() automatically retrieves the value * of the TERM variable. */ int err; setupterm ((char *)0, 1, &err); /* <-- Add cast */ if (err != 1) return FALSE; } else { /* * setupterm() issues a message and exits, if the * terminfo data base is gone or the term type is * unknown, if arg2 is 0. */ setupterm ((char *)0, 1, (int *)0); /* <-- Add cast */ } Since these small changes Pine 3.95 has been rock solid under AIX 4.1.4 and 4.2. Good luck. - Bill -- ============================================================================= William S. Kirchhoff - Sr. System Programmer - Northeast Regional Data Center bill@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu http://nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu/~bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:29:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27203; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:29:47 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA26423 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:18:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA26415 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:18:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6PL-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:17 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Reginald N Patton Subject: Re: Off line reader Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:22:58 -0400 In-Reply-To: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> References: <322f4668.825586@news.his.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Sep 1996, Michael Morse wrote: > > >I have been asked "is there an off line reader which would work with > >Pine". My answer was, no I don't think so - but I thought I should ask all > >you "out there" in case I'm wrong. We are running Pine 3.95 under SCO 4.2 > >... Clients generally use telix or procomm for terminal emulation. > > I'm not sure what you mean by an off-line reader, and I've never tried > it, but you might want to look at PC-PINE. You'll need an IMAP > server. In general, an offline reader can connect to the news server download and store messages and then disconnect from the news server. So you are not accessing the news server everytime you move to at new message, the messages are stored on your hard disk. -- Reginald N Patton MDT, Inc. rnp@mdtsoft.com 770-642-3012 "Time is an excellent teacher, unfortunately it kills all of it's pupils." --Hector Berlioz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04709; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:41:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA26733 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:34:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA26722 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:34:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6cI-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Suggestion Date: 6 Sep 1996 18:12:16 GMT Message-Id: <50ppi0$pt5@due.unit.no> References: In article , Edmund Lau wrote: >I sometimes have the need to Export my entire addressbook instead of just >an entry at a time. I know that I could just copy my .addressbook file >and use that, but it isn't formated in any way. I would have to add >spaces to all my addresses when I'm in my word processor. Is it possible >to have it output similar to how it outputs when I choose the Print >command? I got it to work as follows: Go to the Setup Config screen and set the option print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt. Now, when you use the print (Y) command, you can send the output to a command instead of to a printer, by pressing (C) for CustomPrint. So, from the address book do: Y (print) C (customprint) cat >filename Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 13:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04071; Fri, 6 Sep 96 13:00:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA27151 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:53:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA27146 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:53:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz6uI-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 12:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PC-Pine and Samba Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 12:08:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Cory Tsang wrote: > I'm curious if I have SAMBA sharing out mail folders from a Unix box, > would PC-Pine be able to read that inbox directly without having to deal > with IMAP or POP? The brief answer is "yes, but it's a bad idea." It's slower, less functional, and less reliable (no locking) than IMAP. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07047; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:11:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA07905 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA07900 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:03:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uz80u-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marvin@superlink.net (Warren or Tony Lieuallen) Subject: Two simple(?) questions. Date: 2 Sep 1996 23:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? 2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? Thanks! -- The nice thing about Windows is that it does Tony Lieuallen not just crash... It displays a dialog marvin@mars.superlink.net box and lets you press 'OK' first. http://mars.superlink.net/marvin/home http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/1171/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07346; Fri, 6 Sep 96 14:32:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA29262 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom6.netcom.com (netcom6.netcom.com [192.100.81.114]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA29251 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (budkeith@localhost) by netcom6.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id OAA00360; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:28:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 14:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Bud Keith X-Sender: budkeith@netcom6 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: possible bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In trying to set the initial key strokes to take me into my inbox and open the first message, I type in "i,CR". For some reason, the "i" is accepted on the proper line, but the "CR" is placed on the next line by itself. If I save the new .pinerc file and reboot, i get a message telling me that there is a missing comma. budkeith@netcom.com bud keith, blind skier, tandem biker, returned Peace Corps volunteer and cancer surviver in arlington virginia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:06:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07656; Fri, 6 Sep 96 15:06:23 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA29966 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:01:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA29961 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:00:57 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 7 Sep 96 06:05:57 +0800 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 05:57:57 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Warren or Tony Lieuallen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. In-Reply-To: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? Have not seen this problem with 3.94/95 on Solaris. What platform/version are you running. > 2) Is it possible to turn off writing to dead-letter? [X] quell-dead-letter-on-cancel In setup/config. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11242; Fri, 6 Sep 96 18:13:20 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id SAA03695 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:04:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id SAA03689 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 18:04:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzBkb-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 17:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatically include '--' with signature? Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1996 10:09:53 -0400 Message-Id: References: <504gg0$lbs@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50g7mq$666@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> On 3 Sep 1996, Rob Funk wrote (excerpted): > Well, MY original source was various documentation [...] > # A > # standard delimiter line makes it possible for > # reading agents to handle signatures specially if > # desired. (This is unfortunately hampered by > # extensive misunderstanding of, and misuse of, the > # delimiter.) Indeed. It has come to the point, in my informal observation, that so few observe this convention (if they even know about it, which many probably do not) that for practical purposes it has ceased to be effective or even very meaningful. The world does change, and sometimes even de facto standards become obsolete and therefore unenforceable in practice. > # NOTE: The choice of delimiter is somewhat unfortu- > # nate, since it relies on preservation of trailing > # white space, but it is too well-established to > # change. Indeed, again. When I am writing running text, my preferred Un*x editor routinely truncates trailing blanks when writing a file, so that even if I had "-- " in my .signature, Pine includes it automatically as part of the editable text, and the editor would simply truncate the blank. The signature delimiter may be "too well-established to change," but it collides with the reality of the tools people use. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09288; Fri, 6 Sep 96 19:18:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA04572 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:15:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from phantom.cac.washington.edu (phantom.cac.washington.edu [140.142.110.47]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id TAA04567 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:58 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by phantom.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.07) with SMTP id TAA09568; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 19:14:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Warren or Tony Lieuallen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. In-Reply-To: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? Check to see if the following feature is enabled: composer-cut-from-cursor If so, turn it off. (Unless you want emacs-style control-K behavior, in which case the behavior you describe is indeed a "feature"...) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:12:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11832; Fri, 6 Sep 96 20:12:34 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA14287 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA14282 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 20:09:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzDlD-00038BC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 20:08 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Two simple(?) questions. Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 16:23:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <50fp50$4cd@earth.superlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Sep 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2 Sep 1996, Warren or Tony Lieuallen wrote: > > > 1) When I press CTRL-K to kill a line, pine only clears it, then deletes > > it with another press. It never used to do this. Can this be fixed? > > Have not seen this problem with 3.94/95 on Solaris. What > platform/version are you running. > This is the new behavior with the compose-cut-from-cursor feature selected. Deselect that feature and you should get the old behavior back. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31343; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:52:07 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA15384 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA15379 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzFKo-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: QUESTION: auto-forwarding Date: 3 Sep 1996 11:27:58 -0500 Message-Id: <50hmae$1p6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com>, Matt Zwolinski wrote: > > Is there any way to set pine to automatically forward all incoming mail to > another address? This is a FAQ. The answer is no. > If this is not something that can be done with pine, is there another, > reasonably simple, way to do it? This is a FAQ. The answer is yes. Check out the programs `filter' (part of the Elm distribution) or `procmail', among others. -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:52:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13309; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:52:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id VAA06357 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id VAA06350 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 21:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzFKo-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 21:49 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Byers Subject: Try again - CR on command line Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 17:48:12 -0400 Message-Id: <322CA79B.2345@cfw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been trying for sometime to duplicate the output of pine from within a perl script. I have not been able to produce a message from which ccMail will detach a file except by using the attach method in pine. One option that should work (I know it is ugly) is to program the desired keystrokes into a -I parameter, but I cannot embed a CR or TAB or anything that will cause the next input to go to the next header. Can anyone tell me how to embed a CR, or better yet, how to do this sensibly? -- Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13721; Fri, 6 Sep 96 22:56:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA07040 for pine-info-out; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA07035 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 22:54:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzGJo-00038UC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 22:52 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MattZ@tsoft.net (Matt Zwolinski) Subject: cmsg cancel <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Control: cancel <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com> Date: Tue, 03 Sep 1996 20:52:01 GMT Message-Id: <322c9a4f.973600@nntp.best.com> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Matt Zwolinski | "Don't go around saying the world owes you mattz@tsoft.net | a living. The world owes you nothing. http://www.tsoft.net/~mattz | It was here first. " - Mark Twain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14215; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:04:41 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA16803 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:00:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA16798 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:59:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHJW-00038TC; Fri, 6 Sep 96 23:56 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zach@world.std.com (Zachary H Leber) Subject: adding Reply-To header Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 15:57:40 GMT When I add a Reply-To header in Pine 3.95, it doesn't seem to be recognized by my pine (when I send to myself). My pine does recognize other people's Reply-To headers (added in emacs for instance). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13980; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:06:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07804 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07799 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHOY-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ness Subject: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 6 Sep 1996 22:21:47 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with that in the From: field? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13938; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:11:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA07881 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:10:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA07870 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:10:11 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:15:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:07:06 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Tim Mooney Cc: Pine Info , MattZ@tsoft.net Subject: Re: QUESTION: auto-forwarding In-Reply-To: <50hmae$1p6@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Sep 1996, Tim Mooney wrote: > In article <322c4e49.3561776@nntp.best.com>, > Matt Zwolinski wrote: > > > > Is there any way to set pine to automatically forward all incoming mail to > > another address? > > This is a FAQ. The answer is no. > > > If this is not something that can be done with pine, is there another, > > reasonably simple, way to do it? > > This is a FAQ. The answer is yes. Check out the programs `filter' (part > of the Elm distribution) or `procmail', among others. Well, since the question was for "all" incoming mail then maybe the .forward technique will suffice? (On some systems you can see "man sendmail" for details.) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:37:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14433; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:37:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA17166 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:34:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA17161 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 00:34:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzHt7-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 00:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atsai@scunix4.harvard.edu (Alexander Tsai) Subject: reply indent string Date: 6 Sep 1996 16:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <50pihr$6b8@decaxp.harvard.edu> i would like to change my reply-indent-string (pine 3.95) to a full indent, but the program doesn't seem to want to let me set " " as the character value. any thoughts? email to: atsai@fas.harvard.edu thanks -a From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 05:00:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16070; Sat, 7 Sep 96 05:00:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA20001 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 04:55:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA19996 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 04:55:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzLxk-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 04:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: JEANETTE ROTH Subject: HTML PICO FILES Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:53:21 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I save a html pico file to the server, so that it can become a home page on the web? jr. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16714; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:10:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA22080 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:04:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ecn.net.au (warp.ecn.net.au [198.142.61.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA22075 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:04:27 -0700 Received: from brecom.UUCP by ecn.net.au with UUCP id AA25704 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Sun, 8 Sep 1996 00:42:51 +1000 Received: from unixdev by brecom.amh.com.au id aa11353; 7 Sep 96 17:57 est Received: from unixdev by unixdev.amh.com.au id aa29296; 7 Sep 96 17:58 est Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:58:21 +1030 (est) From: Kevin B Fleming X-Sender: kevin@unixdev To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Timezone for Pc-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From where does Pc-Pine (for Windows 16bit) get its timezone from ? My Timezone is incorrect by 7 hours (PDT time). I assume this is a default time zone.. Thanks. ____________________________________________________________ _--_|\ Kevin B Fleming kevin@amh.com.au internal phone: 40225 / AMH Network Administrator phone: +61 7 3810-2225 \_.--._/ Australia Meat Holdings fax: +61 7 3816-0535 v From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17251; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:15:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA12912 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA12907 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 08:10:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzOyh-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 08:07 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Schroeder Subject: imapd and shadow passwd Date: Fri, 06 Sep 1996 20:23:12 +0200 Message-Id: <32306C10.41C6@rz.uni-greifswald.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to set up imapd on a HP running HP-UX 10.10. I just used the binaries for HP-UX 9 'cause I couldn't build it from scratch. My problem now: On the machine is a shadow password system installed. No log in at the imap port is accepted. Question: Is there a version of imapd for HP-UX available that supports shadow passwords? Do you know where to find an already compiled version? Thanks Jan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18071; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:33:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA13862 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA13857 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFn-00038TC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: mailing a text file Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:47:40 GMT Message-Id: <50qr8s$nc9@dns.ktb.net> References: Jean Schuller (schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr) wrote: | When you are in "Compose" mode, you only have to use ^R to read | an external file and insert it. And you have to make sure that your cursor is NOT up in the headings -- if it is you will get the 'Rich Header' option rather than 'Read File.' One other thing -- Pine is not good about locating files, even if it says it's looking in your home directory. You have to tell it the path explicitly: ~/newfile ;if it's in your home directory or ~/mail/newfile ;if it's in the 'mail' subdirectory. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the dinosaurs died out because of something humans did? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14926; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:33:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23115 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23110 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFl-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pprice@panix.com (CodeQueen) Subject: Arrgghh!! Pine and the mail2news gateway?????? Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400 Message-Id: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Pine apparently 'helps' you by preventing you from MAILing a message with the Newsgroups: header set to some value. This then means that you can't use pine to send mail to the mail2news gateways, which expect to receive MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message. They will also respect an enclosed References: line, to properly link follow on messages. This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail. Arrgghh!! Does 3.95 fix this?? Isn't there any way to get 3.94 to send the mail, and not cry about the NNTP not being set up?? Pauli From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:34:28 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA23128 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA23123 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 09:31:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzQFz-00038UC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 09:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Replying Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:16:16 GMT Message-Id: <50qpe0$ngi@star.epix.net> References: <322C37C3.12BE@norvell.com> Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: : On Tue, 3 Sep 1996, Chris Womack wrote: : > > > Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before : > > > the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor : > > > to appear after the quoted text? : > > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: : > > > RTFM or ? : > I've tried this to no avail...it DOESN'T work! As for DearOldDad, I : > wonder : > if he has anything better to do than reply to everyone with RTFM? : > Thanks for explaining the technique to me, but I already tried these : > options. : I believe most people missed your question. : You want your "cursor" to be placed at a specific point. : That option does not exist. : Regards, : Ed Well it wurx fur mee sow now with out furthur adoo an totaally disregardingin the contorol T spellchequuer thingy and all the other good stuff in the pine in the pine where the sun never shines and kudos to the piney developars imho yall mayhaps may whissh two rtfm won moor thyme b4 ewe post a flame. Yank you and have a nice day even if you have other plans. BYE. oh, I gess i'll just prYnt thiss out ... o won more thing ... the prYnt command duz wurk if y'all have yr config sys setup correctly ... well it's only a thought ... G'Day /\ /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad)/ \/\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA / / \/ / / /email/dad@epix.net / | USA EARTH ____/___/____\/__/_ http://www.epix.net/~dad |\____ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:43:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18655; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:43:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA14605 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA14600 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzRK6-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:37 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Schuller Subject: Re: How do I unsubscribe? Date: 4 Sep 1996 13:01:37 GMT Message-Id: <50jujh$hv1@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> References: <3224BA1A.509@dagy.danderyd.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit send the following command in email to Majordomo@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18456; Sat, 7 Sep 96 10:48:52 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA24013 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:44:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail (mail.bcpl.lib.md.us [204.255.212.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA24008 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 10:44:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA11674; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:46:03 +0500 Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:46:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail Reply-To: Chip Old To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Pine 3.95 Abort Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For about a month we have been using Pine 3.95 successfully on our Sun SPARC 20 under Solaris 2.3. Rather than compile it locally, I used the precompiled binaries from the ftp site. However, there have been several occasions within the past few days when Pine has aborted with the following message: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. Abort The .pine-debug offers no useful clues, saying only this at the very end of the file. Aside from this, .pine-debug shows nothing unusual: about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal According to reports from our users, this only occurs while composing a message. The message is not preserved when Pine aborts, so the user has to start over from scratch. Naturally, it's always a very long message. :-( Any ideas? ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15266; Sat, 7 Sep 96 12:24:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA25152 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:21:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA25147 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 12:21:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzSud-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 12:19 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! Date: 7 Sep 1996 19:00:44 GMT Message-Id: <50sgos$r8k@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , Bruno Boettcher wrote: >Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in >excitement...). > >I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with >internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... If you dont have IN-ADDR setup in DNS and your running TCP wrappers you'll get slow response. Replacing the name with a number will solve the symptom. Best to setup IN-ADDR as this slow response will manifest in other aplications as well. explorer2:[/opt3/stephen] nslookup 192.45.233.7 *** explorer2.clark.net can't find 192.45.233.7: Non-existent domain -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19979; Sat, 7 Sep 96 13:39:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA25945 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:34:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA25939 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 13:34:08 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 7 SEP 96 15:32:17 CDT Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:32:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Arrgghh!! Pine and the mail2news gateway?????? In-Reply-To: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Message-Id: References: <50qrjn$hkj@panix2.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The mail-to-news gateway I use on occasion requires me to name the newsgroup in the "To: " header. May I ask what gateway you use? On 6 Sep 1996, CodeQueen wrote: > Date: 6 Sep 1996 23:53:27 -0400 > From: CodeQueen > Pine apparently 'helps' you by preventing you from MAILing a message with > the Newsgroups: header set to some value. This then means that you can't > use pine to send mail to the mail2news gateways, which expect to receive > MAIL with a Newsgroups: line defining where to post the enclosed message. Just add the "References: " header in customized headers. It is supported. On the other hand, Pine does not allow you to manually enter information into the "In-Reply-To: " header. Before sending the followup article, enable the full headers. Then, manually cut the Message ID, and paste it into the References: header. But, do remember to cut the other 30 unneeded headers! This is not necessary in version later than 3.91. Just enable viewing the "Message-ID: " header. > They will also respect an enclosed References: line, to properly link follow > on messages. This header also is not supported in Pine in regular mail. Incidently, to those of you reading this as a followup article on Usenet, this message was sent to the pine-info list with the References: header added. The header is not always passed through upon being gated to Usenet. I am curious to try her mail-to-news gateway, to see if it preserves more headers. I have tried manually entering Message IDs into header information for the purpose of news-to-mail gateway. But, Pine does not allow additional Message IDs to be entered into the "In-Reply-To: " header, even though that does seems to be encouraged by the RFC! What would be really nice would be if gateways automatically converted "References: " to "In-Reply-To: ", to allow for threading, so that the author of the reply/followup article doesn't need to. It would also be nice if Pine threaded e-mail messages, wherever the "In-Reply-To: " header existed. (Many MUAs don't add that header.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07301; Sat, 7 Sep 96 14:51:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA17211 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:46:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA17206 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:46:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzVCw-00038UC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 14:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Chang Subject: mailing list Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1996 12:33:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i have some extremely long mailing lists. whenever i send something out on them, it is very annoying to the readers because they have to wade through pages and pages of header addresses. is there any way for the readers to simply see the title of the mailing list, without seeing every single address, in pine? please email me, ted From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18749; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:54:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA27527 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:51:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA27522 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 15:51:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzWBL-00038BC; Sat, 7 Sep 96 15:48 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bashley@ktb.net (Bev) Subject: Re: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: 7 Sep 1996 03:54:17 GMT Message-Id: <50qrl9$nc9@dns.ktb.net> References: PattyB (Pattyb50@cris.com) wrote: | I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding | the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. | Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file | for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. The Zmodem command is usually sz to download and rz to upload: sz dnload.fil ;ought to do it. I use procomm/pcplus on my pc, which has a configuration option to automatically download when the host starts it. Telix probably has the same thing somewhere. Bev bashley@ktb.net %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "It doesn't get any easier - you just go faster." -- Greg Lemond From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24694; Sat, 7 Sep 96 17:51:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id RAA21256 for pine-info-out; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (vigrid.cfar.umd.edu [128.8.132.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id RAA21251 for ; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 17:49:21 -0700 Received: from localhost by vigrid.cfar.UMD.EDU (8.7.5/UMIACS-0.9/04-05-88) id UAA23905; Sat, 7 Sep 1996 20:49:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 20:49:02 -0400 (EDT) From: ADAM Sulmicki To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine is getting more green. In-Reply-To: <50qpe0$ngi@star.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was annoying fact that when the number of fields in header is variable so the "Subject:" line was usually in different place when reading each message. So it was pain in ass to find it when reading messages in cruise-cruse mode (N or D advances to next message), and I usually found myself reading message, then going to index to read subject of next message, and then going into the next message. Here is an small fix to make subject of message being in green color (replace the 32 w/ 7 to get inverse video modem for terminals which does not support colors). So now, when you _view_ each message, the subject highlighted /w cool green color. Yep, there is ample room for improvement, it could be possible to add it for config file/setup, it could ask in what color you want it highlighted, it could detec if your terminal support color, and if not use inverse video mode. It could colorize other parts of header. For example the signature could be yellow, the body dark-whie, and other parts of header (evelope) in differnet colors -- but for me it does all what I wanted to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [root@ax pine]# diff -u mailview.c.ORIGINAL mailview.c --- mailview.c.ORIGINAL Sat Sep 7 14:30:16 1996 +++ mailview.c Sat Sep 7 14:47:01 1996 @@ -1502,10 +1502,16 @@ if((which & FE_SUBJECT) && e->subject && e->subject[0]){ if(prefix) gf_puts(prefix, pc); - +/* +Copyright 1996. Adam Sulmicki +\e[0;7m (inverse) +\e[0;32m (green) +\e[0;37m (reset - WoB) +*/ gf_puts("Subject: ", pc); + gf_puts("\e[0;32m", pc); /* setting green, alt. use 7 for inverse*/ format_env_puts((char *) rfc1522_decode((unsigned char *) tmp_20k_buf, e->subject, NULL), pc); + gf_puts("\e[0;37m", pc); /* setting green, alt. use 7 for inverse*/ gf_puts(NEWLINE, pc); } ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And a quick perl script which let you see what # correspond to what color (and optionally you can use it to check if your termainal supports colors at all. ) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/usr/imports/bin/perl # Copyright 1996. Adam Sulmicki foreach $i (1..7,30..47) { if ($i <= 7) {$s = " ";} else {$s = "";} print ("[\e[0;${i}mcolor $i$s\e[0;37m]\t"); if ( ($i == 5) || ($i == 32) || ($i == 37) || ($i == 42) ) { print "\e[0;37m\n"; } } print "\n"; ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20821; Sun, 8 Sep 96 07:25:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA04134 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:43:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA04129 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 02:43:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzgL2-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 02:39 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xyzzy@u.washington.edu (Trent Piepho) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 8 Sep 1996 09:08:32 GMT Message-Id: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> References: In article , ness wrote: > I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and >fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here >over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it >came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably >nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with >that in the From: field? Well, you can do several things. I don't think Pine will let you change your user name from root to ness, just because that would make sending fake email too easy. You can however change the domain name from scf.usc.edu to whatever by setting the user-domain option, in pine's setup menu. Another way to change the domain name is in sendmail. You should have a line in your /etc/sendmail.cf file that looks like this: # who I masquerade as (null for no masquerading) DM Just add the domain you want mail to appear to come from after the DM. This way if you send mail with elm, mail or netscape instead of pine the domain will still get changed. This is how I do it. If you want to change the username, I would suggest making a user called "ness" and using that instead of root. You really shouldn't use your computer as root all the time anyway. There is also a header field called Reply to: for when you want email replies to go to a different email address than the mail came from. Mailing lists often use it. I'm not sure how to get pine to automatically add this. -- |Gazing up to the breeze of the heavens \ on a quest, meaning, reason | |came to be, how it begun \ all alone in the family of the sun | |curiosity teasing everyone \ on our home, third stone from the sun. | |Trent Piepho (xyzzy@u.washington.edu) -- Metallica | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25466; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:11:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA20162 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:08:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA20157 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:08:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzoF1-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:05 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hemicuda@computek.net (HemiCuda) Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: 7 Sep 1996 18:12:00 GMT Message-Id: <50sdtg$cru@sgi.computek.net> References: : I'm using the Slakware 3.0 distribution of Linux, Pine 3.91, and : fetchpop1.9 to get my e-mail from one of the campus computer systems here : over a PPP line. However, when I send mail, it always ends up saying it : came from root@scf.usc.edu I'm really at ness@scf.usc.edu, or preferably : nessa@usa.net. Is there any way that I can get PINE to send mail with : that in the From: field? Are you logging into the Linux machine as "ness"? You'll need to be doing that if you are not now. Also, in Pine setup, you can set the domain name so that it'll show "usa.net" after the "user@". -- Scott Moseman hemicuda@computek.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26479; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:25:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id LAA10929 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:23:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id LAA10924 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:23:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzoVx-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 11:23 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: 8 Sep 1996 17:16:47 GMT Message-Id: <50uv1v$bt0@due.unit.no> References: <50tuol$7cj@ratatosk.uio.no> In article <50tuol$7cj@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: Will you be so kind as to include the name of who you are replying to in the body of your messages? I almost misquoted, and had to interrupt my editing to find out that it was Paul O. Bartlett: > I am only on 3.94, but unless version 3.95 made some catastrophic > changes, from the Main Menu go to Setup and Config. Scroll down to > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) > >As in 3.94 you have to add all headers you want incl. those "standard" >ones in that section! No, that's only necessary for default-composer-hdrs, not customized-hdrs. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28249; Sun, 8 Sep 96 14:55:31 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA13442 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:53:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from haven.uchicago.edu (haven.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA13437 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 14:53:01 -0700 Received: from woodlawn.uchicago.edu (woodlawn.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.9]) by haven.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA13013 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (psl1@localhost) by woodlawn.uchicago.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01645 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:58 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: woodlawn.uchicago.edu: psl1 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:52:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Paul L." X-Sender: psl1@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Reply-To: "Paul L." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i'm having problems opening my inbox. the program reports that it can't open it for some reason. i also have "mm" in my directory and have been using that. perhaps that is causing some confusion in mail directing. please tell me what to do. thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28590; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:06:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA23505 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:04:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA23500 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:04:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzsjk-00038eC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 15:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rasheed Baqai Subject: Authentication problem Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:31:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem: "X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.oac.uci.edu: rbaqai owned process doing -bs" "Message-ID: ++++++++ As you can see, I am running Pine 3.93 (the latest version that my administrator will place on the server for those who want something other than 3.91) on Solaris. The only change I made to my default settings was to change the user-domain part to uci.edu so that the from header shows my alias address instead of my exact server address (which is a little more preferred by me). My alias is the same ID I have on this server so it works well. Question: Why all of a sudden is pine worried about who owned the process (which I did own anyway)? And how can I change some setting so it doesn't have a fit over this and will not have an authentication warning line. For bandwidth purposes, direct replies only are needed if you prefer. Thank you, Rasheed _________________________________________________________________________ R a s h e e d rasheed@poboxes.com B a q a i http://www.ics.uci.edu/~rbaqai/ University of California, Irvine-Information & Computer Science ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:48:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29289; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:48:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA14801 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA14796 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uztLz-00038aC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: devpoly@cict.fr (BARDOU Jean-Frangois) Subject: french pine version ? Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 21:23:48 UNDEFINED Message-Id: Is there a french pine version ? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:48:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29345; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:48:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA24030 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA24025 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 16:44:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uztM4-00038bC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 16:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clint Danbury Subject: File Duplication, ooops! Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 11:52:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Boy did I ever screw up. Advice on the solution to this is welcome, requested, and appreciated. Here's my problem. I save various messages from various usenet newsgroups. I use maybe 12-to-24 different files with different names to keep things orderly. Normal sequence for saving a message is like this 1 "S" for save 2 "^T" takes me to the files 3 cursor keys take me to the specific file I want 4 key chooses that file. 5 puts the message in that file. Then sometimes I get fancy (or so I thought) and skip steps 2/3/4 by just remembering the name of the desired file and putting that name in place using my keyboard. This, of course, puts the same-named (but logically separate) file in my home directory instead of the ..../mail/... directory. And the result ? Duplicate file names on non-duplicate files located on logically different areas on my machine; i.e. el-confuse-o max-o Is there a simple way to .... (A) Take all of the contents of the file in my home directory (B) Put said contents into the file in the ..../mail/... sub-directory which has the same name (C) Delete the file in my home directory which has the improperly chosen duplicate name. ...? Thanks for any advice which is simple to understand and which also works in real life. ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; - ; Please send full names and social security numbers of - ; anyone you know, especially government officials, well - ; known media stars, corporate human resources directors, - ; and anyone else you may have or can get, to me at - ; - ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - ; Box 742226 - ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - ; - ; A Q&A document explaining this project will be emailed to - ; any person who convinces me that they really want to - ; know what this is all about. - ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28909; Sun, 8 Sep 96 19:08:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA16465 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA16460 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzvVb-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 18:51 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: WeeSan Lee Subject: need pine to read different .newsrc files Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 18:11:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Sorry if this is a faq! For some reasons, I need to read more than one news server (eg. one local and one remote). And I need to keep track the news groups from each news server (in other words, I subscribe different news groups from different news server), how I could I do that? Maybe something like: .newsrc.local.hostname and .newsrc.remote.hostname Thanks. -WeeSan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19407; Sun, 8 Sep 96 19:13:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id TAA16537 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:12:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nerc3.nerc.com (nerc3.nerc.com [205.247.120.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id TAA16532 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:12:06 -0700 Received: from [205.247.120.215] ([205.247.120.215]) by nerc3.nerc.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA08117; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:11:26 -0400 Message-Id: <199609090211.WAA08117@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) X-Image-Url: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/Timothy_J_Luoma-X-Face.tiff In-Reply-To: X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 3.3 (Enhance 1.3) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" Date: Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:11:49 -0400 To: WeeSan Lee Subject: Re: need pine to read different .newsrc files Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: luomat@nerc.com References: Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary WeeSan Lee on Sun, 8 Sep 1996 wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry if this is a faq! For some reasons, I need to read more > than one news server (eg. one local and one remote). And I need to > keep track the news groups from each news server (in other words, I > subscribe different news groups from different news server), how I > could I do that? Maybe something like: .newsrc.local.hostname and > .newsrc.remote.hostname Thanks. start pine with the -p flag followed by the path to the .pinerc file -p Use alternate .pinerc file for more, start pine with the flag: -h TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma http://www.nerc.com/~luomat NeXTstep Web Page: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next Swapdisk/Swapfile Faq: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/swapfaq.html Misc NeXT Info: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/next/mailserver From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31281; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:28:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA26573 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA26568 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzwls-00038bC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mooney@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu (Tim Mooney) Subject: Re: Filter question Date: 8 Sep 1996 17:50:51 -0500 Message-Id: <50vikb$5cr@dogbert.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article , Matt Chatterley wrote: > Anyone who knows how to set filter up (ie setup a rule to delete certain > messages), please get in touch :-) 05:47pm dogbert mooney$cat .forward "| /usr/local/bin/filter" 05:47pm dogbert mooney$grep delete .elm/filter-rules if [ subject contains " purged " ] then delete Note that filter knows about other headers besides subject -- "to" and "from" are two other commonly searched headers. Tim -- Tim Mooney mooney@toons.cc.ndsu.NoDak.edu Information Technology Services (701) 231-1076 (Voice) Room 242-J1, IACC Bldg. (701) 231-8541 (FAX) North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND 58105 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31185; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:28:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA17324 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA17319 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:26:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzwlx-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Mime Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 19:05:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> On 8 Sep 1996, Andrew Tuitt wrote: > Mime is a big problem because whenever I send a file, program, or picture > it sends a whole ton of text that no one I know can decode. > Can this Mime thing be changed to something else that people on America > Online and CompuServe can decode? You could suggest to AOL and CompuServe that they get with the program and conform their email software to a published Internet standard! :-) Seriously, there was come complaint on an active and international mailing list I am on about sending 8-bit characters (usually ISO-8859-1). Not long after, the list owner announced that the software on the server (in Denmark) was being made Mime-compliant, and that as far as he was concerned, it was up to subscribers to be able to handle Mime-compliant email, because it is an Internet standard. (With Pine, of course, I have no problems. :-) ) I know that doesn't help you with your immediate problem, but unless outfits like AOL and CIS are pushed, they may not comply with standards. They seem to think that everybody wants, and is too stupid to handle anything else but, point-and-click. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:49:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20631; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:49:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id UAA26784 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id UAA26779 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 20:46:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzx4F-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 20:31 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elizabeth Hamilton Subject: Pine for Linux Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 21:44:55 -0400 Message-Id: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there Linux ports of Pine and Pico? If so, where can I obtain them? Thanks in advance! Elizabeth Hamilton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:11:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20325; Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:11:24 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18385 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18380 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 22:07:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzyLd-00038cC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 21:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaguar1@netcom.com (Glen Wooten) Subject: Reply-To: How? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 19:30:52 GMT I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no area in the normal configuration to do it... -- Glen Wooten (jaguar1@netcom.com) (alternate: jaguar@pro-amber.cts.com) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26713; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:03:50 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28205 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:01:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28200 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:01:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzz4y-00038gC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 22:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: delvecch@anna.az.com (James Del Vecchio) Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT Message-Id: References: Clint Danbury writes: >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see the full headers of my mail, I have to type "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything except the particular spam I want to look at. This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. James Del Vecchio delvecch@az.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA32400; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:11:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28318 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:10:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28307 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:10:12 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:15:13 +0800 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:07:09 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Glen Wooten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: > I've seen someone comment about having problems setting up a "Reply-To" > section in Pine 3.95, but HOW do you set it up to begin with? There's no > area in the normal configuration to do it... This should help you get started.... OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:41:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30955; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:41:26 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA19420 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:39:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA19415 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:39:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0uzzu5-00038nC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:33 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kjell Andresen Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 1996 06:30:45 GMT Message-Id: <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no> References: In-Reply-To: delvecch@anna.az.com's message of 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT James Del Vecchio wrote: > Clint Danbury writes: >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see the full headers of my mail, I have to type "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything except the particular spam I want to look at. This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. Pine is able to offer full view of headers. In setup check: [X] enable-full-header-cmd and then use h to turn on (and off again) full-headermode when you read the messages. -Kjell, who hopes Ørjan reads this easier! -- -Kjell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA30087; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:50:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id XAA28722 for pine-info-out; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:45:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id XAA28717 for ; Sun, 8 Sep 1996 23:45:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v001g-00038BC; Sun, 8 Sep 96 23:40 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Javier Iglesias Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:39:23 -0400 Message-Id: <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <323302D7.2EBC2CC4@maxwell.ping.de> On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, reith wrote: > Hello, > > > > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > I think there is a POP version of pine but I am not sure. > However, Netscape can retrieve mail by POP. Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else can tell me about a good poper for linux?? thanks! ****************************************************************************** Javier Iglesias - Internet Tidal Wave - Bethlehem, PA - 610.882.4220 ----===============================---- javi@itw.com http://www.itw.com/ ****************************************************************************** Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. ---Rich Cook - Hiroshima '45, Chernobyl '86, Windows '95 - ****************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00334; Mon, 9 Sep 96 00:08:06 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA19825 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA19820 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 00:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v00LQ-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 00:01 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwalter@sigma.not.for.mail.washington.edu (Ervin Walter) Subject: pine to recognize other addresses as me Date: 9 Sep 1996 02:20:25 GMT Message-Id: I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? Currently, pine does not put any + signs because my machine (sigma.not.for.mail) is not on the Internet full time and does not receive any mail directly. It is all POPed. Also, if I reply to a message that was sent to edwalter@usa.net, pine asks if i want my reply sent to both the sender and edwalter@usa.net. Any help is appreciated, Erv Walter -- ____ ----==-- _ / / \ ---==---(_)__ __ ____ __ / / /\ \ - edwalter@usa.net --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / / /_/\ \ \ - walter@chem.wisc.edu -=====/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ /______\ \ \ - edwalter@students.wisc.edu http://www.linux.org \_________\/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:27:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00801; Mon, 9 Sep 96 01:27:54 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29972 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29967 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 01:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v01c5-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 01:22 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Ishee Subject: Re: Feature request: anti-spam Date: 07 Sep 1996 17:29:34 -0500 Message-Id: References: Paul O Bartlett writes: > Depending on what operating system you are using Pine under, you > can already do what you have outlined with external tools. procmail > under Un*x I believe can do all the things you mentioned without > supervision if you set it up write. I am getting annoyed at the increase of advertising email making it into my inbox too. I've some simple filtering setup with procmail already. If any procmail gurus have suggestions or any existing example code to find spam I would be interested in seeing it. -- David +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Ishee ishee@erc.msstate.edu | | Mechanical Engineering Senior | | Mississippi State University OS/2 and Linux user | | | | "I'd explain it, but there's a lot of math." -- Calvin. | | | +------------- http://www2.msstate.edu/~dmi1/index.html -------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01612; Mon, 9 Sep 96 02:51:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA00893 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:49:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chinet.isdn.wwa.com (chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA00884 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 02:48:57 -0700 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (localhost) by chinet.isdn.wwa.com ; 9 SEP 96 04:47:07 CDT Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:47:07 -0500 (CDT) From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine will display headers (was Help with spam) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You will be happy to know that pine will display any header information that you require! You may grant your own wish! Go to the configuration file. From the main menu, choose (S)etup, (C)onfigure. Look for the enable-full-headers feature. With this feature enabled, you may view all of the message header information with the (H)eader command from the index, or while viewing a message. You will see the bang-path routing information that your mail took to reach your machine. Or, at least as much as the spammer wasn't able to hide. While in the configuration file, you may also choose to display additional headers while viewing your message, in versions after 3.91. > Date: 9 Sep 96 01:43:45 GMT > From: James Del Vecchio > Clint Danbury writes: > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? > Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At > my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see > the full headers of my mail, I have to type > "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full > headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything > except the particular spam I want to look at. > This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access > to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01610; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:39:02 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21966 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA21961 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v03aS-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:29 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bjorn Harald Berge Subject: cmsg cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Control: cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Date: 9 Sep 1996 10:26:17 GMT Message-Id: <510rc9$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Article canceled from within tin [v1.2 PL7] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:51:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02021; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:51:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA01482 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:45:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id DAA01477 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 03:45:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v03oG-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bjorn Harald Berge Subject: cmsg cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Control: cancel <510r4f$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Date: 9 Sep 1996 10:25:51 GMT Message-Id: <510rbf$gs7@swing.st.statoil.no> Article canceled from within tin [v1.2 PL7] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02095; Mon, 9 Sep 96 04:03:15 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id EAA22273 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:00:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id EAA22268 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 04:00:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v041q-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 03:57 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Victor Cheung Subject: Need Help: PC Pine 3.95 says "No Inbox!" Date: Mon, 09 Sep 1996 04:16:20 -0400 Message-Id: <3233D254.3008@netcom.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I followed all the installation instructions but PC Pine still does not work on my computer. Whenever I open the program, it says "No inbox!". :( I've played around with the setup/configuration, but I'm lost on the syntax of specifying folders (which I think may be the problem). Basically, I want Pine's folders to work in a directory on my hard drive -- just like Pegasus Mail or Eudora Lite. I have an internet account with Netcom that has these protocols: SMTP, NNTP, and POP. Is my problem related to this IMAP thingy that I keep coming across? (I'm not sure what it is at this moment and I'm not sure whether my ISP provides this) Any help would be much appreciated, Victor Cheung vcheung@netcom.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02891; Mon, 9 Sep 96 05:55:46 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA02953 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA02948 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 05:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v05jh-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 05:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ran Chermesh Subject: Out of Free Storage error message Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:28 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, My PC-Pine responds with a "Out of free storage" error message whenever I try saving a message. It is connected to a Novell network The error occurs while trying to access a folder, which resides on our main-frame unix machine. Is there a way to solve this problem? Ran -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ _ _ _______ ______ _______ ___ ______ | | | | | |. __ |____ |. __ | |_ |____ | Dr. Ran Chermesh | | | | | || | | | | || | | | | | | | Behavioral Sciences | |/ /_/ / | | _| | | || | | | | | | | Ben-Gurion University |_______/ |_||___| |_||_| |_| | | |_| Beer-Sheva Israel 84105 |_| Internet:chermesh@bgumail.bgu.ac.il Phone:(972)-6747-2057 Fax:(972)-7-6472-932 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Homepage: http://www.bgu.ac.il/beh/ran.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A conclusion is a place where a person got tired of thinking From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03506; Mon, 9 Sep 96 06:54:38 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id GAA24281 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:48:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id GAA24276 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 06:48:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06ea-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 06:45 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: 9 Sep 1996 13:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <51150q$3f7@due.unit.no> References: <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no> In article <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: > > James Del Vecchio wrote: > > > Clint Danbury writes: > > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > > > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? [snip] >-Kjell, who hopes Ørjan reads this easier! Close, but not quite. Now it looks like James Del Vecchio wrote what Clint Danbury actually did, while the part which JDV actually wrote does not have an attribution at all. The custom is: the attribution should have one less level of indentation than what is quoted. This corresponds to the fact that the attribution is usually added by the next correspondent, and so should have the same indentation as what the next correspondent writes. The following is how it would work: In article <510dil$5v6@ratatosk.uio.no>, Kjell Andresen wrote: > >James Del Vecchio wrote: > > Clint Danbury writes: > > >I get lots of email spam. When I try to respond, I get a zillion > >bouncers. The return address of the spammer is obviously faked. > > > >how can I find out the next-higher authority of the spammer ? Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27238; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:14:13 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA24576 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA24571 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06yZ-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schlegel@crocker.com (Mark Schlegel) Subject: Re: Peeve about writing a message Date: 6 Sep 1996 12:04:14 GMT Message-Id: <50p3vu$501@news.crocker.com> References: <50eqsd$bbl@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mike Brudenell (pmb1@york.ac.uk) wrote: : : Finally... both Pico and Pine's built-in composer offer a very handy : command that justifies (re word-wraps) the current paragraph. This is ^J : (shown in the command menu at the bottom of the screen). : : Just put your cursor on the untidy paragraph and type ^J for it to be : rewrapped. (A "paragraph" is a sequence of lines delimited either by : blank lines or a line with leading whitespcae.) : : Cheers, : : Mike Brudenell It would be really neat to have pine able to do this ^J trick while being sensitive of reply marks like > or : that way when you do the justify ^J this: >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to Boston and ..... way out there ..... show >>> them the project report doesn't become: >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to ..... way out there ... show >>> them the project report but rather >>> Boss, >>> Bob go to.... >>> way out there .... show them the project ..... so the reply marks don't get all mixed into the text Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:15:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id HAA03978 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id HAA03973 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 07:11:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v06yg-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 07:06 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan David Makepeace Subject: Problem Pasting into Messages Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 08:30:35 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are having difficulty pasting clipboards of over a very few sentences' length into new messages. Pine takes the beginning couple sentences of the clipboard and pastes it over and over into the message until we kill the session. When doing this Pine does not respond to the telnet abort-output, are you there, break, or interrupt process commands. I think we are running version 3.93. This, along with the fact that people can't download messages to their harddrives directly out of Pine, is compelling some people to migrate to Eudora when they might otherwise stay with Pine. Was this second problem fixed in 3.94? How does it work in that version? Insights appreciated! -- Jonathan David Makepeace Original Cataloger/Automation Specialist LSU Libraries, 30 Middleton Tel. (504) 388-3331, Fax. (504) 388-6992 Louisiana State University http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/~makepeac/ Baton Rouge, LA 70803-3300 mailto:notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04979; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:08:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA25431 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:05:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net (ns.NL.net [193.78.240.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA25426 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:05:06 -0700 Received: from ciint.UUCP by ns.NL.net (5.65b/NLnet1.3) id AA02628; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:40:13 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa15185; 9 Sep 96 16:24 WET Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:24:28 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering Reply-To: Richard Gering To: Ervin Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine to recognize other addresses as me In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Sep 1996, Ervin Walter wrote: > I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine > recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system > I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. > The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and > edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize > these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine > doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is > really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? Yes I do, your question was quite clear and to the point! And now for the good news: yes, there is a way to do this in Pine. Assuming that you are running the latest and greatest version of Pine (3.95), do the following: From the main menu, select "Setup" followed by "Config". In the list of configurable options that is then being displayed, look for the option "alt-addresses" (to quickly find it, you can type "w" followed "alt-a"). Now press "a" to add one of your alternative E-Mail addresses and continue doing this until you've added them all. Next, press "e" to exit the config utility and save the changes. This should solve your problems with replies and the + sign for personal mail. Kind regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Open minds use Open Systems | | CI International. The Netherlands | (which O.S. are you using?) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA31340; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:52:25 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA05816 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:48:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr37.interl.net [205.244.161.37]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA05811 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:48:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01482; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:46:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:45:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Elizabeth Hamilton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for Linux In-Reply-To: <32337697.73C4@uc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Elizabeth Hamilton wrote: > Are there Linux ports of Pine and Pico? If so, where can I obtain them? Try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed/ pico-bin-linux.gz pilot-bin-linux.gz pine-bin-linux.gz There may be a /pub thrown in the path somewhere, but I think that's right ;-) BTW, those are only the precompiled binaries. I think the source (pine3.95.tar.gz) is in the /pine directory. Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjQ7miGB07hAGnFhAQHMhgP/Tseq3xhkLZqHRDKagVfYKP1xQmZChPKU Lyer7hy8XnEgOOpn0XwTz/60tmpIM8UHw8mECMNpIvM49+xKLAMSJKurDyuzxVI1 eRHzgr6IXDcV7ZU446+grpvw/kcUAPKWz5GI8uI5ivwMJXTcW5yT84o8eLag44rD d4eK0L8T6VI= =8n3/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:56:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04942; Mon, 9 Sep 96 08:56:03 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id IAA05920 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:53:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from engr.engr.uark.edu (engr.engr.uark.edu [130.184.64.233]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id IAA05915 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:53:03 -0700 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 3279); 9 Sep 1996 15:53:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:53:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Peter Gosser X-Sender: pdg@engr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I hope it's only a Setup option that I'm overlooking. Anyway, What the problem is, is that whenever I send a message, to a Listserv for Ex. the (who the message is from line) has (who the message was to), instead. Which means, that the other people on the list can't tell that the message is from me without reading it, which (to be honest) is a hassle when on a high-volume list. Is there a Setup command, that I'm missing somewhere? Peter Gosser ---559023410-126398554-842283971=:17237-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02147; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:35:08 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA06703 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr40.interl.net [205.244.161.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA06689 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:24:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01639; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Javier Iglesias Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. In-Reply-To: <510dvl$3e9@itw.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Javier Iglesias wrote: [NOTE: if someone wants to save this and repost it every time this question [is asked, by all means do so - it'll save us all alot of typing! > Yes.. I know about Netscape.. but sometimes I have to telnet from a > remote location that only has terminal capabilities.. so I can only run > pine.. but I'l check into the pop version of pine.. or maybe someone else > can tell me about a good poper for linux?? I'm using Pine 3.95 for Linux and although I use a 'popper' to get my mail, I also have my inbox on my ISP's mail server set up as an incoming folder - just for the heck of it... My ISP (InterLink LC)'s mail server machine is: mailhost.interl.net in $HOME/.pinerc - with incoming folders enabled: incoming-folders="Interlink Inbox" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX With the above, your INBOX will be /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME (the local inbox) and Interlink Inbox is the remote INBOX. If you want to change INBOX from /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME to your inbox on the remote machine (then you won't be able to read locally delivered mail with Pine), set this in $HOME/.pinerc inbox-path={mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX I also use popclient to get my mail which throws it in /var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME. Try ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Mail/pop/popclient-3.0.tar.gz Read the INSTALL file, follow the instructions, then create .poprc in your home directory. To get my mail from the same inbox as above I have the following two lines in my $HOME/.poprc: defaults localfolder /var/spool/mail/A server mailhost.interl.net proto pop3 user B pass C A = my username on the machine running Pine B = my username on the ISP's mail server C = my password on the ISP's mail server Once that's set then you simply run popclient (no cmdline parameters are necessary because of the .poprc in your home directory) to get your mail. ...it will then be placed in /var/spool/mail/[a] and you can then read it on or offline using Pine by selecting your INBOX folder. Jason PS - There is no 'pop version' of Pine, pop support is built in (and stable - - for me at least - in v3.95) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjREFCGB07hAGnFhAQENcgQAz6Zp+B44irT8IeWzhxyItcZj8P25j+DK 41YDuzWW0z50Zd8sxT7O4M/VIj/a8csD+7PUgqeNc356EvJOpWyRZ+z/dVmo/mik vyR9laWsAVNWfi5lOg5O664MpRVESbaPWe65n5HPCrGqQtjyIAb0vbdWI1u5cl+e Ggfi5SoRCAA= =1Nd5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:44:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01710; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:44:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27780 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dhc1.deehoward.com (dhc1.deehoward.com [206.127.16.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA27766 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:39:22 -0700 Received: from localhost by dhc1.deehoward.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08370; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:35:53 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:35:53 -0500 (CDT) From: Andrea Gonzales To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: newsrc file for multiple nntp servers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you create a news receive file for each nntp server? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ANDREA D. GONZALES adg5283@dhc1.deehoward.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:46:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07671; Mon, 9 Sep 96 09:46:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id JAA27891 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:42:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from necro.interl.net (pm2-adr43.interl.net [205.244.161.43]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id JAA27886 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 09:42:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by necro.interl.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA01863; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:42:07 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:41:50 -0600 (CST) From: Jason Englander Reply-To: Jason Englander To: Ervin Walter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Pine to recognize other addresses as me In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 9 Sep 1996, Ervin Walter wrote: > I am new to pine and have a question. Is there a wayto have pine > recognize additional addresses other than the username of the system > I am on as me? For example, I get my mail from three sites via POP3. > The addresses are edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, and > edwalter@students.wisc.edu. Is there a way to make pine recognize > these addresses as me so that the '+' status marker works and so pine > doesn't always ask about replying to *all* addresses when there is > really only one address besides me? Do you understand what I mean? > > Currently, pine does not put any + signs because my machine > (sigma.not.for.mail) is not on the Internet full time and does not > receive any mail directly. It is all POPed. Also, if I reply to a > message that was sent to edwalter@usa.net, pine asks if i want my > reply sent to both the sender and edwalter@usa.net. In your .pinerc, add your 3 addresses to the alt-addresses= setting: alt-addresses=edwalter@usa.net, walter@chem.wisc.edu, edwalter@students.wisc.edu I have three addresses also, other than what I'm logged in as (otherwise this would come from root@necro.interl.net). I recompiled Pine to "allow_changing_from", then set From: to the address I have from my ISP. You might want to do that with your edwalter@usa.net address since it's most likely redirected to one of the other ones anyway... ...but FYI, I don't get the question from Pine asking me if I want to reply to the sender and myself ;) Jason -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.1, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMjRIiCGB07hAGnFhAQHLnAP+NPhs5TZ5WSlSLujG3/JrsulK/VOph9zM 9PVW6fH+fCPlVH46xH7EKk/lmfdA2gxPB5K7C2/caqsQH2m7DqdaycGqIY71Z95H WV0ix+gwz4NeGvmbNHfGoUedQM6nV3keB1Jkb9LeEioYDPE3AT37/D+IDfwZvzZd SO99T7szvC0= =ukUZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jason Englander | PGP Key: mail w/ subj.: "get-pgp-key" jasoneng@interl.net | pub 1024/401A7161 1996/08/14 http://necro.home.ml.org/ | CB91E5609B28E286 2BCE260F6459AD71 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04978; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:17:18 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA08041 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA08027 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:11:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v09rP-00038UC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:10 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Download from UNIX Shell to PC Date: 9 Sep 1996 14:36:16 GMT Message-Id: <511a10$3fs@star.epix.net> References: <50qrl9$nc9@dns.ktb.net> Bev (bashley@ktb.net) wrote: : PattyB (Pattyb50@cris.com) wrote: : | I am currently using PINE 3.95 thru a UNIX Shell and need help finding : | the protocol for downloading from Folders to my PC via Zmodem transfer. : | Using TELIX v3.21. For some reason, I am unable to locate the doc file : | for my TELIX comm program. Help??? Thanks. : The Zmodem command is usually sz to download and rz to upload: : sz dnload.fil ;ought to do it. : I use procomm/pcplus on my pc, which has a configuration option to : automatically download when the host starts it. Telix probably has the : same thing somewhere. OK, Patti, you can't directly download the contents of a (pine) folder. You first have to save that stuff (e)xport it to a unix file, then download the unix file from your server. Hope that makes sense? BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08188; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:22:42 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id KAA28852 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:16:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id KAA28845 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 10:16:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v09vy-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 10:15 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Speedy Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client. Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 17:24:49 -0700 Message-Id: <323363D1.798C@speedy.net> References: <50u2eg$a9t@nntp4.u.washington.edu> <50u7r0$a3@news.itw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Javier Iglesias wrote: > > Does pine include an option to POP mail from another server?? > > If not.. what POPers are out there to use with linux ?? > > thanks! I believe it does, just specify your inbox, in config, like this: {mail.server.com/pop3} It will ask for your login name and password, then d/l the mail. imap is better though, if you have imap access, just put in: {mail.server.com} imap doesn't have to d/l the entire mailbox either. I believe pop does. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11897; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:29:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA02232 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA02227 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:18:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0BlR-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: From field in Pine 3.94 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:13:25 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hehehe, they say the best man for the job is the one who suggests it needs doing. They also say RTFM. Well, having taken a little time to read /usr/doc/pine-3.95-1/tech-notes , I've found the solution to my problem, which will hopefully be of benefit to others... On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I've seen one of the guys in the office set things up so that he can > change his From: field while composing messages... /usr/doc/pine-3.95-1/tech-notes: ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Determines whether users are allowed to modify the From line on outgoing mail. Even with this turned on, users will have to include From in their default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs in order to be able to edit the From line. Default is to not So it seems this is an optional, compile-time restriction. A good idea, really, just a pity it limits the decent folks. Ah well, only 30 hours to go before my download completes. Don't you love it when your local mirrors are down? :) Regards, Sheldon. ______________________________________________ Sheldon Hearn (email: sheldonh@iafrica.com) Home Page -- http://axl.iafrica.com/ UUNet Internet Africa Helpdesk +27-21-689-6244 "Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear" -- Live From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:30:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11963; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:30:21 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id MAA02374 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id MAA02369 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 12:21:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Bqv-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:18 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Gruter Subject: TAB completion for Nicknames? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:11:20 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, is there any TAB completion possible to be turned on for nicknames (in the Compose form)? (Example: Lu would expand to Lucilla if Lucilla is in the addressbook) Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:10:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12834; Mon, 9 Sep 96 13:10:51 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id NAA12383 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:01:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id NAA12376 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 13:01:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0CUu-00038WC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 12:59 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae@is.dal.ca (Aidan Evans) Subject: Re: 3.95 on AIX 414 Date: 9 Sep 1996 19:59:37 GMT Message-Id: <511sv9$hg3@News.Dal.Ca> References: <50nhl0$1i8q@news.missouri.edu> Steve Meyer (steve@oseda.missouri.edu) wrote: > We put pine 3.95 up on our AIX 4.1.4 box and it intermittently >hangs when doing either a compose or a reply. Backing off to 3.91 >still works great, except for posting a bug report to cac washington, >whose robot said they wouldn't talk to us 'til we installed 3.95, >which hangs when we compose. Uh-oh, I'm circular... > Anyone else 'hanging' with 3.95 and AIX 4.1.4? Working? I have had reports of this too. I called IBM support; they suggestred a number of debugging tactics, and I asked if I would be ill-advised to upgrade bos.rte.tty. Tomorrow I will upgrade AIX: NEW OLD --- --- bos.rte.up.4.1.4.17 bos.rte.up.4.1.4.11 bos.rte.tty.4.1.4.16 bos.rte.tty.4.1.4.4 devices.tty.rte.4.1.4.9 devices.tty.rte.4.1.4.0 which are numerous fixes in the terminal area, and see what develops. P.S. I have also experienced "hangs" that were not: the screen did not change when, for example, I pressed "C" from the folder list. For this a CTRL/L brought up the right screen. Aidan Evans | AE@AC.Dal.CA | Computer Facilities & Operations | 494-3332 | University Computing & Information Services | Dalhousie University, Halifax, N.S., Canada From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10025; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:40:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA15336 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:37:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bioc02.uthscsa.edu (bioc02.uthscsa.edu [129.111.1.229]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id OAA15329 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:37:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (seale@localhost) by bioc02.uthscsa.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA01582 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:36:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 21:36:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeff Seale To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: new message interruption Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using PINE 3.93 and running a csh. Whenever new mail arrives, there is a broadcast message that new mail has arrived. This message appears in the middle of the mail that I am reading within PINE and then the text of the new mail appears in the middle of the older message. Do I fix this from within PINE or is there something that needs to be fixed via the .cshrc? Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ __ Jeff Seale, PhD | |___ University of Texas Health Science Center @ San Antonio ___|* | seale@bioc02.uthscsa.edu \ | http://bioc09.uthscsa.edu/~seale/home.html \/\ / \ / I'm just sittin here wonderin...The world's gone to hell \( and we blame someone else for the trouble we're in. -Joe Ely From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15039; Mon, 9 Sep 96 14:57:48 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id OAA06816 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:52:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id OAA06811 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 14:52:51 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:57:54 +0800 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:49:48 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Peter Gosser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Sep 1996, Peter Gosser wrote: > I hope it's only a Setup option that I'm overlooking. > > Anyway, What the problem is, is that whenever I send a message, to a > Listserv for Ex. the (who the message is from line) has (who the message > was to), instead. Which means, that the other people on the list can't > tell that the message is from me without reading it, which (to be honest) > is a hassle when on a high-volume list. Is there a Setup command, that > I'm missing somewhere? Yes, you are missing something..... I believe you are assuming that since the message you have sent to the list is also being sent to you and pine is displaying it as: "To: XXXX" that everyone is seeing it in that manner. This is a topic that comes up frequently on this group. It is a "feature" of pine that shows messages that *you* sent to *you* as "To: XXXX" since you know you sent it. It is a "presentation" thing only. Meaning, the "From:" header is still there for everyone else to see. You can still use procmail (or whatever) to filter on that header. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15672; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:13:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA16253 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:08:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA16248 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:08:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0EPp-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:02 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Saving in Pine Date: 9 Sep 1996 21:58:14 GMT Message-Id: <5123tm$ebr@due.unit.no> References: <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com> In article <511emp$lcd@news.fm.intel.com>, Amit Bodas - PCD ~ wrote: >Is there a way to save an email in Pine without the mail header ? Yes. While viewing the message itself, press V for View attachment. An ordinary email contains (in the view of pine) one attachment, which is the body without headers. Then choose S for Save from the attachment index. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:21:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16068; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:21:12 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA16462 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:17:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA16457 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:17:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0EZA-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:12 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfvzn@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Andrew Tuitt) Subject: Mime Date: 8 Sep 1996 16:00:19 GMT Message-Id: <50uqij$416@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> Mime is a big problem because whenever I send a file, program, or picture it sends a whole ton of text that no one I know can decode. Can this Mime thing be changed to something else that people on America Online and CompuServe can decode? -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16738; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:41:58 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id PAA07950 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id PAA07943 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 15:32:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Eqj-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 15:30 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Gruter Subject: Re: new message interruption Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:30:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Sep 1996, Jeff Seale wrote: > > I'm using PINE 3.93 and running a csh. Whenever new mail arrives, there > is a broadcast message that new mail has arrived. This message appears > in the middle of the mail that I am reading within PINE and then the > text of the new mail appears in the middle of the older message. > > Do I fix this from within PINE or is there something that needs to be > fixed via the .cshrc? If you would like to keep informed about new mails, maybe you try ^L every time your screen gets confused (in pine or emacs). Peter From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17901; Mon, 9 Sep 96 16:11:49 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id QAA18011 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id QAA18006 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 16:02:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0FJt-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 16:00 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mitch@unidata.ucar.edu (Mitchell S. Baltuch) Subject: Re: HTML PICO FILES Date: 9 Sep 1996 15:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <511egl$g3v@ncar.ucar.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article , JEANETTE ROTH writes: > How do I save a html pico file to the server, so that it can become a > home page on the web? You talk to your webmaster who takes care of it. The file has to be either somewhere within your web server's document tree, or there has to be symbolic link from there to wherever the file is, or you have to have the web server set up to use a public_html directory type of a setup and put the file there. Exactly what you have to do depends on your web server setup. Mitch _______________________________________________________________________________ Mitchell S. Baltuch Unidata Program Center Software Engineer Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research mitch@unidata.ucar.edu WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ Java Resource Page: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/mitch/java.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26069; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:38:16 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18524 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:32:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18519 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:32:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0LMl-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:28 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help with spam Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:23:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 9 Sep 1996, James Del Vecchio wrote: > Pine hides the e-mail headers, unfortnatuely. At > my ISP, pine only shows the forged sender lines. To see > the full headers of my mail, I have to type > "more /var/mail/username". This shows all my mail with full > headers. Then I have to go into emacs and edit out everything > except the particular spam I want to look at. > > This is a royal pain in the ass and I wish I had access > to a mail reader with full headers, but at this time I do not. You have access to a mail read with full headers: Pine! In the Setup screen, turn on "enable-full-header-command". Now, when reading messages, the "H" command will work to toggle between full headers and filtered headers. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21830; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:47:09 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA27793 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:43:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA27786 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0LZh-00038TC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:41 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: From field in Pine 3.94 Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 17:48:42 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've seen one of the guys in the office set things up so that he can change his From: field while composing messages... .pinerc: # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when # composing customized-hdrs=From: Sheldon Hearn , Reply-To: He is using FreeBSD 2.1.5STABLE and Pine 3.95 . I'm using Redhat 3.0.3 linux (with which I'm thrilled, I got a real malicious kick out of nuking my Win95 drive for more swap space) and Pine 3.95 . If I leave my .pinerc set up like that, I get the message "Not allowed to modify From field" when I start composing a message. On my friend's BSD system, it works fine. As an aside, I realise that changing From fields is often a means of abusing email, however the ability to do so would come in very handy for work purposes. Any comments would be much appreciated. Regards, Sheldon. "Hope is a letter that never arrives, delivered by the postman of my fear" -- Live ______________________________________________ Sheldon Hearn (email: sheldonh@iafrica.com) --==oOo==-- UUNet Internet Africa Helpdesk +27-21-689-6244 -- PLEASE read the Red Hat FAQ, Tips, HOWTO and the MAILING LIST ARCHIVES! ________________________________________________________________________ http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-FAQ http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-HOWTO http://www.redhat.com/RedHat-Tips http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists ------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe: mail -s unsubscribe redhat-list-request@redhat.com < /dev/null From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23936; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:56:44 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id WAA18715 for pine-info-out; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:48:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id WAA18710 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 1996 22:48:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Leo-00038BC; Mon, 9 Sep 96 22:46 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Lellman Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:16:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > Thanks to the unknown with his slow imap connections (mail lost in > excitement...). > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > ciao > bboett > > > But I noticed your catchy return address... ;-) Smilin' Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23917; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:25:10 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA28879 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:22:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zeus.usq.edu.au (zeus.usq.edu.au [139.86.128.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id AAA28874 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:22:00 -0700 Received: from helios.usq.edu.au (helios.usq.edu.au [139.86.208.24]) by zeus.usq.edu.au (8.7.5/8.7) with ESMTP id RAA26177 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:25 +1000 (EST) Received: from localhost by helios.usq.edu.au with SMTP (1.40.112.6/16.2) id AA046560068; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:08 +1000 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 17:21:08 +1000 (EST) From: Steven J Barton To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: News Groups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, Can some-one assist me by giving direction on the best way to locate a suitable area to gain advise on accessing information via e-mail. Steve. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13603; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:39:43 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA29066 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:37:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from erm1.u-strasbg.fr (erm1.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.61]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA29058 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:37:40 -0700 Received: from yoda.u-strasbg.fr (bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr [130.79.74.66]) by erm1.u-strasbg.fr (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA07797; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:37:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 09:37:22 +0200 (MET DST) From: Bruno Boettcher X-Sender: bboett@yoda.u-strasbg.fr To: Jim Lellman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: slow pine, solved!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Sep 1996, Jim Lellman wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 1996, Bruno Boettcher wrote: > > I moved all symbolic hostnames out of my pinerc and substituted them with > > internet numbers, and inbox scan is as fast as hell.... > > > > > But I noticed your catchy return address... ;-) > ehm, yes i was a bit too enthusiastic... running :%s/erm1/130.... on .pinerc appeared not to be the best idea. I swapped userdomain again to symbolic name.... In fact the problem resided on one side on the slow dns-response and on the other side on the failed rsh attempt. On my system I use ssh with a symbolic link named rsh, as a fallback i keeped old rsh... while ssh doesn't produce disturbing output when summoned, old rsh does.... Now I changed my /etc/profile to work with old rsh and moved old rsh to a new location replacing it with a link to ssh, since i like the idea of encryption.... BTW i didn't find the compile option specifying the location of rsh... what happens if there isn't /usr/bin/rsh? Another question: when pine runs long time, now less than before i get inbox access errors. Interestingly pine trys to open that box even when i am scanning the other boxes, resulting in lots of errors. Is this behaviour normal? (The inbox too is on my smtp server...). Other point the errors occur only in long runs, if i close pine and start another session then no error occur.... ciao bboett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12620; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:44:55 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id AAA29142 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:43:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id AAA29137 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 00:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0NOy-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 00:38 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply-To: How? Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 08:10:49 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: : On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : > On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Glen Wooten wrote: : > > [...] : > [...] Scroll down to : > customized-hrs and add the Reply-to: ... that you want. (When in : > doubt, check the context-sensitive online Help screens.) : Keep in mind that if you only type in "Reply-to", that's all that will : appear from your composer. I am aware of that. That's why I wrote "Reply-to: ..." with the colon and ellipses to show that you will probably want to fill in the actual reply-to address. That's why I also said to check the help screens. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:01:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25026; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:01:45 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA21014 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA21009 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Oao-00038TC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 01:54 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Teong <4et@pobox.com> Subject: Extra mail messages! Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:05:30 -0730 Message-Id: <3235A6E2.706C@pobox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I wonder does anyone has the same problem with me. I am using Pine 3.95 on my Linux(2.0.0) machine. After successfully popping my mail from my ISP, I will invoke Pine to read it. But the strange thing is that, with every new message, I will have a message without any text(without subject & from who), an empty line, diplaying prior to every new e-mail in the Index of incoming mails. Any advice will be appreciated. Pls get back by e-mail if possible. Thanks. Best Regards, Edward From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24959; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:02:36 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id BAA29913 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id BAA29908 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 01:58:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0OZL-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 01:53 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Re: Timezone for Pc-Pine Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 10:39:55 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Sep 1996, Kevin B Fleming wrote: > > >From where does Pc-Pine (for Windows 16bit) get its timezone from ? > > My Timezone is incorrect by 7 hours (PDT time). I assume this is a > default time zone.. > > Thanks. Insert the following command into your PC's AUTOEXEC.BAT (or CONFIG.SYS, if you're running DOS 6 or higher): SET TZ= where you replace by a 3-character timezone name, by the timezone offset (like -7 or 5 for 7 hours behind or 5 hours ahead of GMT), and by a 3-character abbreviation for daylight savings tiem zone. I believe PINE takes the offset wrong, so play with it until it works. - Hans -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert, Dipl.-Phys. Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:30:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25256; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:30:32 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA21308 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA21303 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:28:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0P6p-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:27 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: netadm@gsl.net (Network Administration) Subject: newsgroup for qpopper? Date: 10 Sep 1996 09:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <513c92$6vo@ultra.gsl.net> Hi all: Is there any discuss group for POP3 server like qpopper? Ming From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25557; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:48:04 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id CAA00486 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:43:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id CAA00481 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 02:43:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0PLo-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 02:43 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John aka DearOldDad Subject: Re: Replying Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1996 11:14:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <32261B16.3E5F@norvell.com> <508nn2$l7o@star.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 8 Sep 1996, Harry Slaughter wrote: > On 31 Aug 1996, DearOldDad wrote: > > Chris Womack (cwomack@norvell.com) wrote: > > : Whenever I reply to a message, my cursor is inserted before > > : the replied to "text". Is there any way to set the cursor > > : to appear after the quoted text? > > RTFM or ? > Heck, this seems like a good enough question to ask. If you don't have the > patience to answer, why not just leave it alone? Well, you are correct. I thought that a short answer indicating that pine has built-in (and context sensitve) help might answer the question, but obviously it did not. Thank you. G'Day. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:07:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25720; Tue, 10 Sep 96 03:07:39 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA00697 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:05:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA00692; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:05:11 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbgnw16852; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 06:04:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27437; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:04:36 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02307; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:55:04 -0300 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:54:58 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: majordomo@cac.washington.edu, majordomo@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII heloo , i want to subscribe for pine-info thanks and i want to ask this question i want to move all the files that concern pine from my home directory to another direcotory can you help me on that please i mean moving .pine-debug and .pinerc thanks Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:08:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24867; Tue, 10 Sep 96 03:08:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id DAA21708 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:06:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay1.UU.NET (relay1.UU.NET [192.48.96.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id DAA21703 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 03:06:04 -0700 Received: from Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw [139.141.1.3]) id QQbgnw17055; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 06:05:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw by Eng.KUniv.Edu.KW (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27440; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 13:06:05 -0300 Received: from burgan by burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02312; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:56:47 -0300 Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 12:56:46 -0300 (GMT) From: Omar Butaiban X-Sender: butaiban@burgan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine-help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII i want to ask about the news server i don't know how to put a news server can you help me please for that Omar Butaiban From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26103; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:25:40 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA02339 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:21:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz (visla.utia.cas.cz [147.231.12.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with ESMTP id FAA02331 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:21:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id OAA05070; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:19:36 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 1996 14:19:36 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Rasheed Baqai Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Authentication problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATI?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?A=29_AV_=C8R?= Disposition-Notification-To: vs+disposition@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 7 Sep 1996, Rasheed Baqai wrote: > The problem: >=20 > "X-Authentication-Warning: rigel.oac.uci.edu: rbaqai owned process do= ing > -bs" > "Message-ID: >=20 > ++++++++ > Question: Why all of a sudden is pine worried about who owned the proce= ss > (which I did own anyway)? And how can I change some setting so it doesn= 't > have a fit over this and will not have an authentication warning line. Pine does not complain, your sendmail does complain. A quick workaround i= s to add a SMTP server (probably the same machine you are working on) to th= e smtp-server variable in your setup/config screen (first page).=20 Regards, V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(1) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.11/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26031; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:26:14 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) id FAA23324 for pine-info-out; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:18:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.7.5+UW96.08/8.7.3+UW96.09) with SMTP id FAA23319 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 1996 05:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0v0Rjz-00038BC; Tue, 10 Sep 96 05:16 PDT (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen@clark.net (Stephen Balbach) Subject: Re: Slow connection to IMAP server ? Date: 7 Sep 1996 19:02:36 GMT Message-Id: <50sgsc$rc2@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , Christophe Harbine wrote: > > Hello, > > We are running unix pine 3.95 as imap client on both sunOS 4.1.3 >and Solaris 2.5. Our IMAP server is a P133 under FreeBSD. We are facing >the following problem : > > We have tried the 2 following syntaxes in .pinerc on client side : > >1. inbox-path={imap.domain.fr/user=chris}inbox > >2. inbox-path={[192.45.233.7]/user=chris}inbox This is why: explorer2:[/opt3/stephen] nslookup 192.45.233.7 *** explorer2.clark.net can't find 192.45.233.7: Non-existent domain Setup IN-ADDR. /stb > > On client side under SunOS, with the first syntax, we need about >30 seconds until we get the password prompt ( message 'Opening "INBOX"' ). >With the second syntax, it's very quick ( 1 second or 2 ). > > On client side under Solaris, opening the mailbox is very slow ( >about 30 seconds ) with both syntaxes in .pinerc !... > > Certainly a problem with name resolving on client and/or server >side ?... Has anyone already faced this problem ? Any idea ?... > > Thanks for your help. > >Amicalement, /\ >Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul > /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique >/ \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France >/\ \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 > \ \ / / \/\ --------------------------------------------- > > -- --- Stephen Balbach "Driving the Internet To Work" VP, ClarkNet due to the high volume of mail I receive please quote info@clark.net the full original message in your reply. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via t