From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 00:57:06 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07580; Sat, 1 Jun 96 00:57:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27669; Sat, 1 Jun 96 00:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27663; Sat, 1 Jun 96 00:52:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPlQk-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 00:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Handling of decnet addresses Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 23:32:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31ADEEE1.41C67EA6@alf.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31ADEEE1.41C67EA6@alf.dec.com> On Thu, 30 May 1996, Jeff Finkelstein wrote: > Has anyone modified pine to deal with decnet-style addressing, e.g. > node::user? I would hate to reinvent the wheel ;-) Pine only supports Internet RFC-822 addressing syntax. DECnet syntax is particularly problematic, since it collides with RFC-822 group syntax and source route syntax. I suggest that you use sendmail rules to rewrite DECnet syntax into Internet syntax, and use Internet syntax exclusively. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 03:31:18 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10728; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:31:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14942; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14936; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:27:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPnpT-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macvsog@mercury.gaianet.net (Leroy Brown) Subject: Re: Marking text for deletion Date: 1 Jun 1996 10:16:30 GMT Message-Id: <4op59u$4cv@tribune.concentric.net> References: <31AF14B9.7700@unibw-muenchen.de> <4onqke$bb6@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu> Vladimir V. Piterbarg (vladimir@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu) wrote: : Peter Schmolck writes: : >macvsog wrote: : >> : >> I am using pine 3.91 and I can't figure out how to mark text and then : >> delete it. The help guide says to use "^^" to mark the text and then : >> delete it. I tried putting the marks at the beginning of the text and atYou did that alright. To continue, you must move the cursor -notice that the : I think your problem is that you TYPE "^^" (two symbols "^" in a row). But : first "^" is not a character you should type, but rather indicates that you : have to hold key while typing "^". So, in other notation, to start : marking text, type : -^ : and then move cursor to where you what the block of text to end. Then type : -K : to delete it. : If you knew that and didn't type two "^" in a row, I am sorry. I didn'y mean : to insult you. : -Vladimir Ok, that was the problem. Thanks for the help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 03:35:47 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10784; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:35:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29488; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29482; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:32:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPnwh-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 03:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Re: TERM problem Date: 28 May 1996 07:55:49 GMT Message-Id: <4oebi5$nbq@ousrvr3.oulu.fi> References: <199605280418.AAA01931@canes.gsw.peachnet.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dr. Jigang Liu (jigang@canes.gsw.peachnet.edu) wrote: : Can anybody tell me how to setup the TERM if I want to invoke "pine" on : an IBM RS/6000 with AIX3.2 machine over a SUN workstation with the "openwin"? : : vt100, vt220, vt320, ansi, network, sun. This IBM machine does not have : "sun-cmd" type. Don't try it with the command window or anything, open an xterm and invoke pine within that. Ideally you can invoke the xterm on the RS6k and let it start pine right away: /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm -e /usr/local/bin/pine I am not sure with the paths, it may be different for you, but you can check the dirs. You can even configure your desktop menu on the Sun so you can invoke pine with one mouse click, but it implies you need to have an .rhosts file on the RS6k which allows you to login w/o password (only YOU of course!). Read about this file in the manual pages: man rhosts You menu entry on the Sun (in .openwin-menu) could then look like this: "Pine..." exec rsh name_of_rs6000 -l your_login_name /usr/X11/bin/xterm -e\ /usr/local/pine (As one single line, I had to break the line, so take the \ away and join it back together. Ok, I hope this helps. Good luck, -- Thomas Ulich NEW e-mail: thomas.ulich@sgo.fi www: http://cc.oulu.fi/~thu/ Inuit say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 05:25:07 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13544; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:25:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AB01300; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:21:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01294; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:20:47 -0700 Received: from iucaa.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with UUCP id RAA11635; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:48:54 +0530 Received: from unipune.ernet.in by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00425; Sat, 1 Jun 96 17:44:34+050 Received: from physics.unipune.ernet.in by unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA19130; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:30:05 +0500 Received: from localhost by physics.unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4.1.0) id AA18904; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:39:34 +0500 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 17:39:31 -0500 (GMT) From: "Ashish S. Nadkarni" X-Sender: ashish@physics To: Chavalit Srisathapornphat Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.93 : "Incomplete maildomain..." message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2532 dear friend write the domain name in your global pine.conf file in the /etc directory.that will fix the problem for every user.or use brute force and change the setup for ever user. ashish On Tue, 28 May 1996, Chavalit Srisathapornphat wrote: > Sawasdee (hello in Thai), > > I face this problem too. I don't know the real reason! but I can correct > it for myself by use S-SETUP command and change config in the second line > "user-domain" to mydomain. It can correct this problem. > > But this method don't fix the problem of every user!! > 8> > > ===================================================== > Chavalit Srisathapornphat. > > Department of Computer Science, > Fac.of Science, Kasetsart University. > E-mail Address: fscicls@nontri.ku.ac.th > lit@eng.chula.ac.th > Homepage : http://www.sci.ku.ac.th/~fscicss > http://www.eng.chula.ac.th/~lit > ===================================================== > > On 21 May 1996, Tim Porter wrote: > > > > > I have just upgraded from Pine 3.91 to Pine 3.93 on my Sun SPARC system (running > > SunOS 4.1.3). > > > > When I start up Pine, I get the message 'Incomplete maildomain "myhost."'. It used > > to work fine with 3.91. Is there a configuration option I should have set? > > > > Can anyone help? I read the FAQ, but couldn't find anything about this. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Tim Porter > > > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tim Porter t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk > > Forestry Commission, Research Division > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ,-~~-.___. / | ' \ Ashish S. Nadkarni ashish@physics.unipune.ernet.in ( ) 0 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \_/-, ,----' URL: http://physics.unipune.ernet.in/~ashish/ ==== // * * * * / \-'~; /~~~(O) Scanning Tunneling Microscopy Lab,Dept. of Physics / __/~| / | University of Pune,Pune,India =( _____| (_________| ____________________________________________ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ home!! 21/2A Jagdishnagar Ganeshkhind Rd Aundh Pune 411007 India. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 05:36:08 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13687; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:36:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16884; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:32:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16878; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:32:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPpnb-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 05:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Henning Subject: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create olders Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 14:33:14 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi ! I'm using PCPine 3.93 (32-bit-Version, I think) with WIN 3.11 as an offline-mail-manager. At the university I work with Pine under Unix and it works fine, but from time to time I have to copy some folders onto my home-PC (My PC has no net-connection, so Pine starts with a "Cannot connect"-Error). I have configured my folder-collection like this: Desktop D:\Mail\[] It is possible to read the folders, but they are all readonly, so I cannot delete messages. But it is curiously possible to save messages into the other readonly folders which Pine has marked as readonly... And it is also impossible to create new folders: Pine writes empty folderfiles onto my harddisk but is neither able to open them nor to save messages into. When I save the first message from a folder A into a folder B, so the message will be added, but the line with the "From ..."-mark which marks the begin of a new message, has a new character at its beginn, so that Pine doesnt find this message. Are there any suggestions to solve this problem ? Thanx, - Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 08:13:00 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16392; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:13:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03991; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:07:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03985; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:07:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPsDF-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@klemm.gtn.com (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: addressbook problem Date: 1 Jun 1996 12:14:57 GMT Message-Id: <4opc81$mi@klemm.gtn.com> References: <4ofuuk$3cuq@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> In-Reply-To: >That is a bug that will be fixed in 3.94. If all goes well we hope to >have 3.94 out by the end of next week. Will PinePGP be part of the distribution ? It's a nice perl filter script, that does the PGP support nearly as fine as elm-2.4ME+19, where the pgp support is builtin. A wish of mine would be pgp support like a new function: - add my public key as attachement - fetch others pgp public key from attachement and feed it to pgp -ka to add it to the personal public key ring. Thanks Andreas /// -- andreas@klemm.gtn.com /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ Support Unix -- andreas.klemm@wup.de pgp p-key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html >>> powered by <<< ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz >>> FreeBSD <<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 08:41:43 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17006; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:41:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04609; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:37:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04603; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:37:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPsiM-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes Subject: Help me get back to 3.91 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 12:56:59 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, awhile back when 3.93 first came out I was sent a message with details on how to continue using 3.91 if I chose----like a dummy I didn't save the message. Does anyone out there have those instructions????? I use pine to post to usenet groups a lot and I just can't afford the 2-3 minutes that it takes 3.93 to validate the newgroup when I'm posting. Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but at this point I want my 3.91 back. Please help. thanks, Joseph. P.S. If you wouldn't mind emailing me any responses that would ge great. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 08:41:57 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17029; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:41:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19892; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:37:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19886; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:37:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPsiM-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: pipe command? Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 09:56:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone tell me in plain English what the pipe command does? I have tried it and I don't see what happens. Thanks in advance! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 09:21:30 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17953; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:21:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20687; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20681; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:17:26 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16575; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:17:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07049; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:17:24 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 09:17:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help me get back to 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Joseph, Have you tried setting the "news-post-without-validation" feature? -teg On Fri, 31 May 1996, Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes wrote: > > Hello, awhile back when 3.93 first came out I was sent a message with > details on how to continue using 3.91 if I chose----like a dummy I didn't > save the message. Does anyone out there have those instructions????? I use > pine to post to usenet groups a lot and I just can't afford the 2-3 > minutes that it takes 3.93 to validate the newgroup when I'm posting. > Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but at this point I want my 3.91 back. > Please help. thanks, Joseph. > > P.S. If you wouldn't mind emailing me any responses that would ge great. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 09:31:11 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18157; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:31:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05564; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05558; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:28:00 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06312; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:28:00 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07119; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:27:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 09:27:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Henning Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create olders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, I can explain some, but not all, of what you are seeing. The usual mailbox format used on Unix systems uses "From " lines as message separators. The PC-Pine mailbox driver for this format is a READ-ONLY driver; that is, PC-Pine is not capable of appending messages to folders in this format, nor updating their status fields. The native mailbox PC-Pine uses is called "MTX" and it does not use the "From " lines as message separators (it has a different separator format with length and flag info in it.) I don't know why PC-Pine is letting you append to a READ-ONLY folder, nor do I understand why creating and using a new local folder is not working for you. If you have any additional data on those points, please let us know. Note that PC-Pine is not yet designed for off-line use, so you are swimming upstream to a certain extent, but it should be possible to save all the messages from a Unix-style folder that is READ ONLY into a new native/local MTX folder, and have full R/W access to that MTX folder. -teg On Fri, 31 May 1996, Mark Henning wrote: > Hi ! > > I'm using PCPine 3.93 (32-bit-Version, I think) with WIN 3.11 as an > offline-mail-manager. > At the university I work with Pine under Unix and it works fine, but from > time to time I have to copy some folders onto my home-PC (My PC has no > net-connection, so Pine starts with a "Cannot connect"-Error). > > I have configured my folder-collection like this: > Desktop D:\Mail\[] > > It is possible to read the folders, but they are all readonly, so I > cannot delete messages. But it is curiously possible to save messages > into the other readonly folders which Pine has marked as readonly... > > And it is also impossible to create new folders: Pine > writes empty folderfiles onto my harddisk but is neither able to open > them nor to save messages into. > > When I save the first message from a folder A into a folder B, so the > message will be added, but the line with the "From ..."-mark which marks > the begin of a new message, has a new character at its beginn, so that > Pine doesnt find this message. > > Are there any suggestions to solve this problem ? > > Thanx, > > - Mark > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 10:02:27 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19024; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:02:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21443; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:57:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21437; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:57:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPtye-000385C; Sat, 1 Jun 96 09:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Default editor Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:17:00 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <8520k026la.fsf@marge.seas.gwu.edu> > If this is in a FAQ, please forgive me. > Is there a way to change a default editor to something else (i.e. emacs)? > I changes it in my .pinerc, but I have to use "^-_" to start it. > Please reply me by email if you can. > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > - Youngser Park Yes. In the configuration screen, usually at the bottom of the selections, there is a line that says: editor = type A to add a value then type in emacs. Then set the feature enable-alternate-editor-implicity this will atuomatically activate the editor you typed in above when you enter into the composer. This way you will not have to use the ^_ command. Hope this helps!! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 11:00:40 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20379; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:00:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22713; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:58:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22707; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:57:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPus9-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Forwarding on Pine 3.91 Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:31:19 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I've seen the ability to forward email mentioned in some of the online > documentation for PINE, but I've not been able to fine the procedure > detailed. Was this documentation on forwarding your pine account to another account? > I have a new email account, and I'd like to automatically forward all > incoming messages to this new account. Is this something PINE can > handle? If so, how do I do it? Not that I know of. From what I know you have to set your forwards on the other accounts that you have. But if Pine is able to do this I would like to know as well. > Thanks very much. > > VRH > ____________________ > Vaughn R. Hamilton > Hamilton@utc.campus.mci.net Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 11:03:33 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20474; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:03:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07461; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:57:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07455; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPus9-000385C; Sat, 1 Jun 96 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Schmolck Subject: Re: Marking text for deletion Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 17:48:09 +0200 Message-Id: <31AF14B9.7700@unibw-muenchen.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit macvsog wrote: > > I am using pine 3.91 and I can't figure out how to mark text and then > delete it. The help guide says to use "^^" to mark the text and then > delete it. I tried putting the marks at the beginning of the text and atYou did that alright. To continue, you must move the cursor -notice that the marked text being highlighted follows the cursor movement- to the last character of the part you want to erase. Now comes the "^K". Pressing "^^" a second time undoes mark set without any further action. ^K without a marked text erases the line where the cursor is located > the end and when I used ^K to delete the text, only the line the cursor > was on got deleted. -- Peter Schmolck p41bsmk@unibw-muenchen.de Department of Education Phone : +49-89-6004-2056 Univ. of the Federal Armed Forces Munich Fax : +49-89-6004-3968 85577 NEUBIBERG, GERMANY From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 11:48:33 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21431; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:48:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23688; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:45:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23682; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:45:29 -0700 Received: from carson.u.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07288; Sat, 1 Jun 96 11:45:28 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 11:45:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chandra Ramamoorthy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Difficult with my carson account Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi very time i open my mail e mail on carson I get the following message-can't open mail box lock. access is read only. I am unable to receive any mail . Please help. Chandra From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 12:40:54 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22778; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09643; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09637; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPwQd-00038VC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vladimir@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu (Vladimir V. Piterbarg) Subject: Re: Marking text for deletion Date: 31 May 1996 15:08:14 -0700 Message-Id: <4onqke$bb6@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu> References: <31AF14B9.7700@unibw-muenchen.de> Peter Schmolck writes: >macvsog wrote: >> >> I am using pine 3.91 and I can't figure out how to mark text and then >> delete it. The help guide says to use "^^" to mark the text and then >> delete it. I tried putting the marks at the beginning of the text and atYou did that alright. To continue, you must move the cursor -notice that the I think your problem is that you TYPE "^^" (two symbols "^" in a row). But first "^" is not a character you should type, but rather indicates that you have to hold key while typing "^". So, in other notation, to start marking text, type -^ and then move cursor to where you what the block of text to end. Then type -K to delete it. If you knew that and didn't type two "^" in a row, I am sorry. I didn'y mean to insult you. -Vladimir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 12:40:58 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22789; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:40:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09635; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09629; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPwQc-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vladimir@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu (Vladimir V. Piterbarg) Subject: Re: Subject: receiving mail Date: 31 May 1996 15:10:53 -0700 Message-Id: <4onqpd$bc1@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu> References: vaw@utkux.utcc.utk.edu (Vickie Ann Woods) writes: >Is there a way to have mail from certain addresses automatically go to a >different file(a different inbox set aside for that address)? Yes there is, but to do that, you need to use a separate filter program. The one I use is called, well, "filter" and comes with "elm" distribution. If you have elm on your system, then you have this filter program; if not, maybe your sysadm installed something similar, and you should check with him. -Vladimir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 12:41:06 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22813; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24741; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24735; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPwU7-00038bC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa5gle@zen.sunderland.ac.uk (gary.lemmon) Subject: Re: Legal Name Change Date: 29 May 1996 15:35:27 GMT Message-Id: <4ohqrv$qb1@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: Clint Danbury (danbury@ssnshirt.com) wrote: : Is there a legal way for my to change my name from : "To: comp.mail.pine" to "clint" ? : ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- : ; - : ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - : ; Box 742226 - : ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - : ; - : ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Try looking in the .pinerc file if you cant get it in setup. __ __ Have (__\ [Pegasus] /__) Fun! (__\ /__) Gary 8-) (__\ ||||| /__) \ ( o o ) / +---------------------oOOOo---U---oOOOo---------------------+ | http://zen.sunderland.ac.uk/~aa5gle/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ |For help on eMail, telnet and Internet please send me eMail| | with the Subject line showing:TUITION REQUEST PLEASE | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | When it does not exist, design it! | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 12:41:46 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22860; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24721; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24715; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:38:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPwQd-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Suwat Panitkullawat Subject: problem on compose message in pine3.93 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 01:07:13 +0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've builded pine3.93, but it do not work correctly. When I compose message, after I confirm to send the message by press 'Y' ,pine will suddently stop and has some error message like "received abort signal". How can I solve this problem ? Any suggestion would be highly appreciated, Suwat P. The following is debug file. (level 9) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 9). Version 3.93 --- snip --- 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 Y [Yes] 14 3 N No 14 4 (null) (null) 28 5 (null) (null) 28 6 (null) (null) 42 7 (null) (null) 42 8 (null) (null) 56 9 (null) (null) 56 10 (null) (null) 70 11 (null) (null) 70 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 poll event 1, timeout 600 poll on tty returned 1, events 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) resume_busy_alarm ... composer returns (0x4) new win size -----<24 80>------ init_signals() busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) -- pine_encode_body: 0 cancel_busy_alarm(-1) === sending: busy_alarm(1, Busy, 0, 0) find_folders_in_context: mail/[] ====== context_mailbox: (sent-mail) cancel_busy_alarm(-1) Sending mail... busy_alarm(1, Sending mail, 0, 1) q_status_message(Sending mail ) output_message(Sending mail ) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 call_mailer: via pipe Opening pipe: "/usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem" (WRNP) PID: 22933, COMMAND: /usr/lib/sendmail -bs -odb -oem IMAP DEBUG 23:52:54 5/31: QUIT ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 13:06:58 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23671; Sat, 1 Jun 96 13:06:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25275; Sat, 1 Jun 96 13:03:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25269; Sat, 1 Jun 96 13:03:51 -0700 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id OAA12825 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:03:47 -0600 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id OAA24616 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:03:48 -0600 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:03:48 -0600 (MDT) From: Timothy Chan X-Sender: trchan@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE : addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the version of PINE which the admin has recently installed, a feature is missing which I found really useful in the previous version. When you have a "mailing list" in the address book, and you want to add only ONE of the addresses in the list to a Cc: you cannot. It used to be that you can press "s" for select, and only the name you hi-lighted would be entered into the message. Now it's the entire list which is entered into the message. -- Timothy Chan (trchan@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) - 1st year Honours Chemistry "Whenever I hear the sparrow chirping, watch the woodpecker chirp, catch a chirping trout, or listen to the sad howl of the chirp rat, I think: Oh boy! I'm going insane again." -- Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey [SNL] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 1 14:12:10 1996 -0800 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25330; Sat, 1 Jun 96 14:12:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11523; Sat, 1 Jun 96 14:08:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11517; Sat, 1 Jun 96 14:08:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uPxrb-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 14:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Doug Reade Subject: Re: Inability to post to newsgroups Date: 28 May 1996 03:35:14 GMT Message-Id: <4ods9i$qin@ratty.wolfe.net> References: <4obend$oqp@ratty.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Doug Reade wrote: >I've been trying to post to newsgroups on Seattle Community Network >(SCN) for about two months now. Every post is bounced back to= my files, >and I get the message "sh xxxx Memory fault", where the x's are some >random number. > Just to be precise, the last three times I tried to post, the messages I got were: sh: 20153 Memory fault sh: 20395 Memory fault sh: 20912 Memory fault Is this any help? Doug From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27782; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28486; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:48:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28480; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:48:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQ0Oq-00038DC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jason Fayre Subject: question about reading news Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 18:29:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I get linux to maintain a list of active newsgroups? When I try to subscribe to a new group, pine has to check the nntp server for the active groups. If I want a list of available groups, pine must get the list from the server and then get it again when I actually select the group I want to subscribe to. There has to be a way of speeding this up. I run on a 28.8 connection. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27930; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:58:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13495; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:55:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13485; Sat, 1 Jun 96 16:55:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16579; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 19:55:36 +0500 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 19:55:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail Reply-To: Chip Old To: Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes Cc: Pine-Info Mailing List , BCPL Help Desk Subject: Re: Help me get back to 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1712 On Fri, 31 May 1996, Joseph and Figen Tek-Puentes wrote to pine-info: > Hello, awhile back when 3.93 first came out I was sent a message with > details on how to continue using 3.91 if I chose----like a dummy I didn't > save the message. Does anyone out there have those instructions????? I use > pine to post to usenet groups a lot and I just can't afford the 2-3 > minutes that it takes 3.93 to validate the newgroup when I'm posting. > Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but at this point I want my 3.91 back. > Please help. thanks, Joseph. Joseph, the pine-info mailing list is an international list for Pine users and administrators odf systems using Pine. The folks on the list have no idea how we have things configured here. If you have problems with any aspect of your BCPL account, please contact the BCPL Help Desk at oz@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us, or call 887-3297. If you really want to go back to Pine 3.91, you may do so by entering "pine391" at the UNIX shell prompt instead of just "pine". However, try this before you go back to the old version: o Start up pine (not pine391). o At the main menu enter "SC" to go to Pine's configuration screen. o Scroll down until "news-post-without-validation" is highlighted. o Press "X" to enable that option. o Press "E" to exit configuration mode. o Press "Y" to save the modified configuration. That should speed things up somewhat. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29519; Sat, 1 Jun 96 18:32:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14529; Sat, 1 Jun 96 18:28:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14523; Sat, 1 Jun 96 18:28:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQ1uG-00038DC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 18:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sherwood@deimos.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Subject: PC pine config suggestions Date: 31 May 1996 00:52:13 GMT Message-Id: <4olfrt$17ns@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Reference PC Pine for Windoze version 3.91. 1. In the setup for PC pine, it should be clearer that inbox needs {imapserver.domain}inbox. I suggest that if it's not set, that it default to sendmail relay host. (I bet there aren't a lot of places that use a different relay host from the machine running imapd.) 2. Folder collections don't seem to be able to take IMAP'd collections. E.g. The following doesn't work. folder-collections = c:\mail {mailhub.aardvark.com}~/mail This is a real inconvenience, as users won't be at the same machine all the time. At present goto works for this, but I've yet to figure out a way to get a list of my unix based message folders. 3. For use in the goto, it would be convenient if there was some abbreviation for your imap host. E.g. go to $sent-mail, the $ would stand for whatever imap host had your mailbox. 4. Export needs to be able to export either on the remote machine or on the local machine. Similarly for import in editing. These would both be tricky. -- Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00149; Sat, 1 Jun 96 19:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00218; Sat, 1 Jun 96 19:08:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00212; Sat, 1 Jun 96 19:08:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQ2Xs-00038DC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 19:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krempe@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Christoph Krempe) Subject: permission error .pinerc Date: 28 May 1996 09:01:58 GMT Message-Id: <4oefe6$6lc@fu-berlin.de> When I start pine under Linux 1.2.6, there is a start message "Error saving configuration in file .pinerc Permission denied." All actions on this file are refused. The Permisions of .pinerc are 644. What can I do? Gruss C.K. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Freie Universitaet Berlin Christoph Krempe - Rechenzentrum der Universitaetsbibliothek - Garystrasse 39 Tel: 030/838 6595 14195 Berlin e-mail: ck@ub.fu-berlin.de Germany ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03258; Sat, 1 Jun 96 23:23:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17688; Sat, 1 Jun 96 23:19:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17682; Sat, 1 Jun 96 23:19:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQ6UF-00038DC; Sat, 1 Jun 96 23:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Emmanuel Koku Subject: Re: PRINTING E-MAIL MESSAGES Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 19:17:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4ohnm6$qb2@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> <4ok8g8$fth@hummin.sol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ok8g8$fth@hummin.sol.net> HI, i guess you could only use the mark option when composing a mail. To edit parts of your email messages, try forwarding it to yourself. This brings up the original mail in edit mode, then you can use the mark option to chop out parts. /Emmanuel On 30 May 1996, Mark Jenks wrote: > Bob Vail (sffa3t@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us) wrote: > : I would like to sometimes print part of a Pine e-mail message. What is the > > Pine support: How about using the Mark option? Print marked text, or full > message? Sounds possible to me.. What do you think? > > > Mark > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07376; Sun, 2 Jun 96 03:09:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04986; Sun, 2 Jun 96 03:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04980; Sun, 2 Jun 96 03:04:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hbookout@localhost) by scls1 (8.6.12/8.6.6) with SMTP id UAA01363; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:57:49 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 20:57:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bookout X-Sender: hbookout@scls1 To: Beth Peterson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pipe command? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please include me in your respons what the pipe command does. Thanks! Henry On Fri, 31 May 1996, Beth Peterson wrote: > > Can anyone tell me in plain English what the pipe command does? I have > tried it and I don't see what happens. > > Thanks in advance! > > > Beth Peterson > bethp@fnal > Physics Department > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11876; Sun, 2 Jun 96 08:14:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08013; Sun, 2 Jun 96 08:10:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08007; Sun, 2 Jun 96 08:10:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQElZ-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 08:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scancm@biobase.dk (Christian Mondrup) Subject: Re: Receiving 8-bits characters Date: 29 May 1996 07:59:27 GMT Message-Id: <4oh04v$6jv@bioalp.biobase.dk> References: <31A63D9D.39AD@nt.fylkesbibl.no> Arild Skalmeraas (arild@nt.fylkesbibl.no) wrote: : This is probably a question which has a very obvious answer. However, I : couldn't find an answer to it in the comp.mail.pine FAQ. : So here goes: How do I configure Pine to receive 8 bit characters : instead of the usual 7 bits? I need to do so to view/send the special : Nordic characters correctly. I'm using a Unix machine. : Could anyone give me a hand? Thanks. Get pine version >= 3.92 and mark the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation feature list item. : Arild Skalmeraas E-mail: arild@nt.fylkesbibl.no -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus + + Brendstrupgaardsvej + + + + Phone: +49 89 49 53 01 + + Telefax: +45 89 49 60 07 + + E-Mail: scancm@biobase.dk + + + + Opinions expressed are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15611; Sun, 2 Jun 96 12:08:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25416; Sun, 2 Jun 96 12:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25410; Sun, 2 Jun 96 12:05:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQIRB-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cengiz Acarturk Subject: Re: newsgroups & pine Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:15:10 +0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 23 May 1996, LostDeath wrote: > > a month ago i started to use pine to get access to newsgroups... > however i've now a problem ... i'm subscibed to some newsgroups that have > thousands of messages....i would like to know if there are any way to > delete them at once instead of deleting one by one..... > hi! Well, I used tin to delete. I deleted the groups by pattern using tin. They will be automatically deleted from your pine session. I did. You can... Regards... CENGIZ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17345; Sun, 2 Jun 96 14:00:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11667; Sun, 2 Jun 96 13:56:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11661; Sun, 2 Jun 96 13:56:29 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (dgeisler@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA15451 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 14:27:58 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: darrell geisler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could you pleas send me the latest release of pine. Mine 3.91 has been having problem. When I send a message it is received cryptic and garbled half way though. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17969; Sun, 2 Jun 96 15:02:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27195; Sun, 2 Jun 96 14:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27189; Sun, 2 Jun 96 14:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQL7u-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 14:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Converting Quoted-Printable Back Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 17:41:22 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe I have all along been missing something that has been staring me right in the face, but in all the time I have been using Un*x Pine, I have not found a way to convert back to 8-bit characters those characters that come in a quoted-printable form in email or news, for example, =AF or =B3 or whatever in the text. With my particular hardware and software setup (I am using Un*x Pine 3.93 as part of the software), I can display full 8-bit characters in any one of the ISO-8859-x character sets. Some newsgroups and even some mailing lists send full 8-bit characters, and I see them appropriately. However, sometimes characters come in already in quoted-printable form. If possible, I would like Pine to turn those =XX forms back into 8-bit characters so I can view them properly. Does anybody know how this can be done? Have I been missing something all along? Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21824; Sun, 2 Jun 96 18:49:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15342; Sun, 2 Jun 96 18:41:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15336; Sun, 2 Jun 96 18:41:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQOZs-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 18:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: magnio@datter.pvv.unit.no (Magni Onsoien) Subject: Re: Receiving 8-bits characters Date: 2 Jun 1996 19:42:49 GMT Message-Id: <4osqrp$hgt@due.unit.no> References: <31A63D9D.39AD@nt.fylkesbibl.no> <4oh04v$6jv@bioalp.biobase.dk> In article <4oh04v$6jv@bioalp.biobase.dk>, Christian Mondrup wrote: >: So here goes: How do I configure Pine to receive 8 bit characters >: instead of the usual 7 bits? I need to do so to view/send the special >: Nordic characters correctly. I'm using a Unix machine. As far as I know pine is 8 bits? (Maybe except the header) >: Could anyone give me a hand? Thanks. > >Get pine version >= 3.92 and mark the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation feature >list item. (Sorry I don't reply to the original message but I didn't see this question until now) I'm using pine 3.91 for unix, and I have no problems with 8bit characters. But it might depend on telnet and what telnetprogram you are using. try configure your telnetprgram for 8bit charachters. Instead of telnet you may also use rlogin -l (these things depends on how you use the unix system, if you log in from a remote machine, fex a PC with telnet, or if you are directly on the unix machine. -- Magni -- Magni Onsoien http://www.nvg.unit.no/~magnio "Verda er ein forvirrande stad. Og betre vart det ikkje då Magni kom." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22856; Sun, 2 Jun 96 20:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16296; Sun, 2 Jun 96 20:11:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu.chiangmai.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16290; Sun, 2 Jun 96 20:10:46 -0700 Received: by cmu.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05255; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:06:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:06:23 -0700 (GMT) From: Satit Phiyanalinmat To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23698; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:10:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01821; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:06:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01809; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:06:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQQqR-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lps@igate.iohk.com (S Chan) Subject: Clarinet read problem Date: 3 Jun 1996 03:56:06 GMT Message-Id: <4otnom$2e9@ibridge.iohk.com> I read the clarinet news groups using pine. On some articles (I think ones with pictures attached) i'm prompted to 'use mime display [y/n]'(or something similar). When I hit Y it comes up with an error message about 'metamail not found', does not display the picture but does go on to display any test in the article. Can someone let me know what this means and what i need to do to fix it? Thanks, Ps - can you copy me any replies by email as my news feed isnt always 100%. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23993; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02097; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:33:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02091; Sun, 2 Jun 96 21:33:44 -0700 Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu (tcosta@leucs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.195.14]) by leucs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id AAA25920 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 00:33:26 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 00:33:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Costa To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: dumb mailers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am trying to correct a problem with replying to a dumb mailer. When I try to reply from Pine I get the text Warning: No addresses to reply to! Is there something I need to change in the pine.conf? I can get this to work with elm ok. Also I notice with this particular dumb mailer the second From: area is completely missing. Any help appreciated. Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26235; Sun, 2 Jun 96 23:42:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18867; Sun, 2 Jun 96 23:37:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18861; Sun, 2 Jun 96 23:37:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQTFs-00038DC; Sun, 2 Jun 96 23:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Legal Name change ? Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 16:54:28 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Where is it that you want to change your name? Are you talking about when someone receives your messages? Because your name shows up as: 93 May 24 Clint Danbury Legal Name change ? > Is there a legal way for me to get my name changed from "To:comp.etc" > the good old fashioned "Clint" ? > > > > > ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ; - > ; - > ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - > ; Box 742226 - > ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - > ; - > ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27768; Mon, 3 Jun 96 01:19:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04967; Mon, 3 Jun 96 01:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04961; Mon, 3 Jun 96 01:10:43 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:08:28 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA19080; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:10:12 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:10:12 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Phillip Justice Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: New/Unread msgs in Newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As you read news articles use the "D" command to "Delete" them from the list. They then won't be displayed when you next read the newsgroup, unless... ...If you wish to view all available articles still available in the newsgroup on your news server (including those you have "Deleted" previously) use the "&" (Unexclude) command. If you want to hide "deleted" articles without leaving and returning to the newsgroups use the opposite command: "X" (Exclude). You may also find the Tab command useful, which advances to the next New or Recent message. All this, and more, is explained in Pine's main help section: "?" at the Main Menu. Look down for "Reading News" (or go there fast by using the "W" command to search for the string "Reading News"). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 31 May 1996, Phillip Justice wrote: > > **** Dumb New User Question Alert! **** > > I use pine to view multiple newsgroups (including this one). How do I > have pine keep track of msgs I've already viewed, then when I reenter the > newsgroup at a later date, show me previously read msgs or (better!) jump > to the next unread msg? > > TIA > > Phillip Justice > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00204; Mon, 3 Jun 96 03:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06384; Mon, 3 Jun 96 03:27:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06378; Mon, 3 Jun 96 03:27:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQWqm-00038DC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 03:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: parky@marge.seas.gwu.edu (Youngser Park) Subject: Default editor Date: 31 May 1996 11:41:21 -0400 Message-Id: <8520k026la.fsf@marge.seas.gwu.edu> Hi! If this is in a FAQ, please forgive me. Is there a way to change a default editor to something else (i.e. emacs)? I changes it in my .pinerc, but I have to use "^-_" to start it. Please reply me by email if you can. Thanks a lot. -- - Youngser Park ======================================================================= Youngser Park | The George Washington University parky@seas.gwu.edu | Dept. of EE & CS (202) 994-5373 (O) -0227 (FAX) | 801 22nd St. NW, Washington, DC 20052 ======================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02650; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:14:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22556; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:08:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22550; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:08:11 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:57:51 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA20771; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:41:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:41:48 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Youngser Park Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Default editor In-Reply-To: <8520k026la.fsf@marge.seas.gwu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You don't mention which version of Pine you are using (it always helps to say, as later versions of any software have different features!)... It sounds like you have managed to set up the "alternate editor" command (you mention using ^_ to start the editor), but actually want the thing to be started automatically to edit your message text. Assuming you are using version 3.93 (which is the current version) go to the Setup Configuration screen (at the Main Menu type S then C) then enable the feature entitled: enable-alternate-editor-implicitly You can see helpful information about this, and any other configuration option, by putting your cursor on the item and typing a "?". Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 31 May 1996, Youngser Park wrote: > > Hi! > If this is in a FAQ, please forgive me. > Is there a way to change a default editor to something else (i.e. emacs)? > I changes it in my .pinerc, but I have to use "^-_" to start it. > Please reply me by email if you can. > > Thanks a lot. > > -- > - Youngser Park > > ======================================================================= > Youngser Park | The George Washington University > parky@seas.gwu.edu | Dept. of EE & CS > (202) 994-5373 (O) -0227 (FAX) | 801 22nd St. NW, Washington, DC 20052 > ======================================================================= > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03007; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:29:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23678; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:25:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from canes.GSW.PeachNet.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23672; Mon, 3 Jun 96 05:25:26 -0700 Received: (from jigang@localhost) by canes.gsw.peachnet.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id IAA00818; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:25:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:25:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. Jigang Liu" To: help pine Subject: Blocking mails Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Can anyone tell me if there is a way to block mails from coming from a certain address. For instance, if I don't want to get any emails from the address abc@def.ghi.edu, the mails will be bounced back to "abc" whenever "abc" sends me emails. Thanks in advance. Gary. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04764; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:11:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24942; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from net4.sbic.co.za by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24864; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:01:38 -0700 Received: from by net4.sbic.co.za (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA20275; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:59:55 -0200 Message-Id: <31B36EBE.2D91@iad02.sbic.co.za> Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 16:01:18 -0700 From: Mike Rogers Organization: Standard Bank X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subscribe pine-info Mike Rogers From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05874; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:57:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10782; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.clark.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10776; Mon, 3 Jun 96 07:47:01 -0700 Received: from explorer2.clark.net (sac@explorer2.clark.net [168.143.0.5]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA13815 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:47:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sac@localhost) by explorer2.clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA13061 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:46:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: explorer2.clark.net: sac owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:46:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "S.A.C." X-Sender: sac@explorer2 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reply to Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have not been able to find a way to change my "reply to" address. If anyone knows how, I would appreciate your telling me. If there is currently no way to do that, I would recommend that that be a future addition to pine. I know of at least one person already who has had to stop using pine and start using emacs to compose his email because he was also unable to find a way to change the "reply to." Thanks much. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07056; Mon, 3 Jun 96 08:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26385; Mon, 3 Jun 96 08:28:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26379; Mon, 3 Jun 96 08:28:57 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01670; Mon, 3 Jun 96 08:28:55 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26939; Mon, 3 Jun 96 08:28:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:28:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Converting Quoted-Printable Back In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul, If you see raw quoted-printable, it means Pine doesn't think this is a MIME message --perhaps because a gateway or listserv corrupted the msg in some way (e.g. stripped the MIME header out.) In other words, Q-P decoding should be completely transparent, as long as it is a syntactically correct MIME msg. -teg On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Maybe I have all along been missing something that has been staring > me right in the face, but in all the time I have been using Un*x Pine, > I have not found a way to convert back to 8-bit characters those > characters that come in a quoted-printable form in email or news, for > example, =AF or =B3 or whatever in the text. > > With my particular hardware and software setup (I am using Un*x > Pine 3.93 as part of the software), I can display full 8-bit characters > in any one of the ISO-8859-x character sets. Some newsgroups and even > some mailing lists send full 8-bit characters, and I see them > appropriately. However, sometimes characters come in already in > quoted-printable form. If possible, I would like Pine to turn those > =XX forms back into 8-bit characters so I can view them properly. > > Does anybody know how this can be done? Have I been missing > something all along? > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19282; Mon, 3 Jun 96 12:33:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03707; Mon, 3 Jun 96 12:28:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03701; Mon, 3 Jun 96 12:28:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQfGK-00038DC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: How to disable "Reply to all recipient?" ? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:15:31 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4okl0s$ru@drb-mathsun10.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4okl0s$ru@drb-mathsun10.usc.edu> On 30 May 1996, Vladimir V. Piterbarg wrote: :>Hi, :> :>This problem started when our site moved to Pine 3.92(UNIX). Everytime :>I (R)eply to a message, I get asked :>"Reply to all recepients?" even though I am the only :> one recepient. It really annoys me, but I couldn't find any options under :>"Config" to disable that. Maybe somebody knows how to get rid of that inquiry? :>Thanks for help, :>-Vladimir It seems likely that Pine is not recognising the address that the sender put into his To: field as you; may be you (like me) have a number of possibilities, or your normal To: differs from your normal From:. To cure this put entries into the alt-addresses field in config. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22376; Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:22:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20309; Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20299; Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:13:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQg0J-00038TC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 13:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: typeover in composer Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:20:33 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sorry if this has already been covered. I have read most of the messages in this newsgroup and don't remember. So if it has been covered then just point me to the right place. When using Pine 3.93 in the composer my typing starts at the bottom of the screen, instead of the top, and will typeover what I have just typed. This leaves me with no way to write a message. If anyone knows what the problem could possibly be I would be very happy. I am using Unix. Another question: Is there a way to specify an Fcc folder for a news group so that it will be the default and I won't have to keep writing it in? Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25680; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:21:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07334; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:17:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.233.52.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07326; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:17:30 -0700 Received: (from khuang@localhost) by infodepo.jfpl.lib.in.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA28945; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:15:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:15:53 -0500 (EST) From: "Kathy Huang (System Admin)" To: pine Subject: How do I creat/read in graphic files Message-Id: Rfs: Request for IT Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HWorking at helpdesks, we have been wanting people to send in their request forms using pine. I would like to convert forms/charts into templates(files) that can be (Read) inserted in message text. Do I need to put these files in each user's home directory or can I put into the parent directory? If the latter, Can we set up a short default path/filename(f1, f2 etc.) and novice pine users can easily read in files? We are using using pine 3.9 with Unix shell. Any help is greatly appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26795; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:51:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08086; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:43:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08080; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:43:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQhMj-00038TC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 14:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clint Danbury Subject: Re: newsgroups & pine Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:21:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: >......On Thu, 23 May 1996, LostDeath wrote: >...... >......> >......> thousands of messages....i would like to know if there are any way to >......> delete them at once instead of deleting one by one..... >......> Yes, it's about a 10 or 20 part recipe.. >From Main menu, enter "Setup" >From that menu, enter "Config" You will be presented with a list of fifty zillion totally incomprehensible terms. Look for this entry: enable-aggregate-command-set Mark that entry. Exit the config subset of the setup subset and choose "yes" or whatever it is that asks you about saving the configuration. Execute the magic keystroke sequence to get you into the newsgroup which has the thousands of messages. Press the semicolon key ; (Note..... it must be the lower-case thing) Press the following sequence of keys on your keyboard: aadd At this point all messages should be marked for deletion. If they are not, then something is wrong in my instructions and you should go home and cry over the lack of clearly understandable terms which is so widespread and pervasive in pine specifically and unix in general. Go to another newsgroup. The ";aadd" thing (without quotes) should work on that newsgroup also. Press whatever magic secret keystroke sequence it is on your machine that causes your machine to exit pine. Sometimes pine will ask you if you really want to "expunge" (or whatever word is configured for that day of the week) all the messages in some specific newsgroup. Other times, pine will not. The rules for this are hidden in a secret vault located in the deep tectonic ridge in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. If the question does appear, answer yes. (Or "Y" or "y" or whatever is proper for the given phase of the moon during which you are operating.) If the above rules are followed, there is an 86.703% statistical probability that the messages you chose for deletion will go away. I do not see how in this world you, or anyone else for that matter, could be so obviously stupid-or-unfit-for-your-job as to not be able to discern, easily and immediately, these blatantly obvious and simple steps. If Aesop was alive today, it would be "the emperor's new buzzwords" ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; - ; Please send full names and social security numbers of - ; anyone you know, especially government officials, well - ; known media stars, corporate human resources directors, - ; and anyone else you may have or can get, to me at - ; - ; danbury@ssnShirt.com Clint Danbury - ; Box 742226 - ; Dallas, TX 75374-2226 - ; - ; A Q&A document explaining this project will be emailed to - ; any person who convinces me that they really want to - ; know what this is all about. - ;------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29979; Mon, 3 Jun 96 16:02:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10703; Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10697; Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQiZq-00038DC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:48:24 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Peter, This is how it shows up when I look at my listing of messages: 234 May 24 Peter Jaeckel Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? ^ ^ you can see your name and not the news group name. On Fri, 24 May 1996, Peter Jaeckel wrote: > > Hi. > > I am usning pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a nesgroup and later > on check to look for replies, I notice that my message appears in the > newsgroup with > To: > in the field where my name should be. > > I am sending from behind a firewall and I am using a Reply-to: field, > too, in order to get replies to my other address that I can also > access from home. > > Perhaps someone knows anything about it ? > > Thanks, > > Peter Jaeckel > > P.S. the trailer below is automatically added by our site's proxy > server and there is nothing I can do about it... > > > =============================================================================== > The above article is the personal view of the poster and should not be > considered as an official comment from the JET Joint Undertaking > =============================================================================== > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02704; Mon, 3 Jun 96 16:51:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12847; Mon, 3 Jun 96 16:48:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.onramp.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12837; Mon, 3 Jun 96 16:48:02 -0700 Received: from 199.184.212.186 (stockyard23.onramp.net [199.184.212.186]) by mailhost.onramp.net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA10535 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:48:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <31B2EE5B.1258@onramp.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 17:53:31 +0400 From: Chris Philp X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Elane X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.06/msg00632.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Elane from Fort Worth TX I realy like you a lot i wish you could see this. I hope you dont stop liking me. I realy would like to go do somthing. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05757; Mon, 3 Jun 96 18:00:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29762; Mon, 3 Jun 96 17:58:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29756; Mon, 3 Jun 96 17:57:54 -0700 Received: by hyowon.cc.pusan.ac.kr (SMI-8.6/Hyowon-MX-1.0) id JAA12486; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:57:43 +0900 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:57:42 +0900 (KST) From: Kim minyoung To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info kim min young From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08369; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:00:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16294; Mon, 3 Jun 96 19:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu.chiangmai.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16278; Mon, 3 Jun 96 19:56:55 -0700 Received: by cmu.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03804; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:22 -0700 (GMT) From: Pornchai Rachtanapun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09182; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:36:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16796; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu.chiangmai.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16784; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:33:57 -0700 Received: by cmu.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05565; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:29:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:29:45 -0700 (GMT) From: Satit Phiyanalinmat To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info Satit Phiyanalinmat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09361; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:45:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02250; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tigger.jvnc.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02244; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:42:13 -0700 Received: from pgt.com (pgt1.pgt.com) by tigger.jvnc.net with SMTP id AA01778 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:42:10 -0400 Received: from reactor.pgt by pgt.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28073; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:42:15 EDT Received: by reactor.pgt (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25138; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:42:13 EDT Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:42:13 EDT From: cgw@pgt.com (Charles G Waldman) Message-Id: <9606040342.AA25138@reactor.pgt> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Wyse terminals, again I know this is a FAQ, but after searching through the archives I see that it is also a SAQ (Seldom Answered Question). The problem: Bad behavior on Wyse-50 terminals. I was assigned the task of giving email access to about 75 users on our net, with a wide variety of levels of expertise and a wide variety of terminals. I installed Pine, thinking it would do the job. However (no surprise) the people running on Wyse-50's are really unhappy. I don't care if the arrow keys don't work, but the screens are garbled, the highligting is all over the screen, etc. I read the FAQ's which said "Some problems can be fixed with a proper TERMCAP entry", but of course they don't say exactly WHAT the proper termcap entry for a Wyse-50 is. Anybody have any suggestions? I've looked at every TERMCAP file I could lay my hands on, to no avail. Two more questions on the same topic: What would it take to *fix* Pine to handle the older terminal types? I would gladly donate some labor to this task. Does anybody have a clear idea what would need to be changed to fix this problem? Failing that, are there any other easy-to-use email client programs with a menu-structure and online help, which can actually deal with Wyse terminals? Again, sorry for bringing this old, old, topic up again. I would be extremely grateful for any replies. Charles G. Waldman Senior Software Engineer Princeton Gamma-Tech, Inc. cgw@pgt.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09448; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:47:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02277; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:44:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02271; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:44:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQn23-00038DC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@v2.ph.gla.ac.uk (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Can Save transfer from one mail host to another? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:55:54 GMT I'd like to use PINE to transfer email(s) from a folder on one mail host (say A), to a folder (with same or different name) on a different mail host (say B). Is this possible in principle? If so, how does the syntax look for the destination folder on the other host? All that I have succeeded in achieving so far is creating some bizarrely-named mail folders on the same host that the mail is starting from. I'm a little worried that it might not be possible at all, judging from the prompt - SAVE to folder in [saved-messages] : (where "foo.bar.baz" is the system on which the mail is currently sitting, i.e A in the above question). If it makes any difference, I'm quite happy to log on to A or to B and run PINE there. I'm not necessarily trying to do this from a third host, C!!! I just want to move these mail items from one set of mail folders to another. p.s one of the systems has to be PINE 3.91, as I don't have a newer version available for it. If this is an issue. many thanks -- Alan Brought to you by fully refurbished pre-owned electrons. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09537; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:51:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02363; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:49:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02357; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:49:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQn5z-00038VC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roberto Marabini Ruiz Subject: Re: Forwarding on Pine 3.91 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 16:50:03 +0000 Message-Id: <31B317BB.41C6@b12sg1.cnb.uam.es> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vaughn R. Hamilton wrote: > > I've seen the ability to forward email mentioned in some of the online > documentation for PINE, but I've not been able to fine the procedure > detailed. > > I have a new email account, and I'd like to automatically forward all > incoming messages to this new account. Is this something PINE can > handle? If so, how do I do it? > > Thanks very much. > > VRH > ____________________ > Vaughn R. Hamilton > Hamilton@utc.campus.mci.net I do not think pine can automatically forward the incoming mail. Anyway you can try the following 1) if your are in a unix machine: put a file with the name .forward in your home directory. If this file exists, sendmail redirects your mail to the list of recipients in the .forward file. For example, if you has a .forward file containing: jd@company.com sendmail will redirect all incoming messages to ``jd@company.com'', 2) if you are in a vms machine use the SET FORWARD command inside the mail utility. For example SET FORWARD NEXUS::LARS will redirec your mail towards NEXUS::LARS. I hope this help Roberto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09624; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:56:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17013; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:49:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17007; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:49:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQn5z-00038UC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mf94aq@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca (MICHAEL G FERREIRA) Subject: Limiting file attachment directory? Message-Id: <1996Jun3.132003.12047@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:20:03 GMT -- ************************************************************************** Michael Ferreira * * * * * **** ** Honours Comp.Sci/Economics Graduate ** ** * * * * ** P.O. Box 184 * * * * * ** ** Niagara-on-the-Lake, Ontario, Canada * * * * * * * * * * * **** ** Email: mf94aq@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca Voice #: (905) 468 - 4280 ferreira@computan.on.ca (905) 468 - 3051 mike@freenet.npiec.on.ca WWW: http://computan.on.ca/~ferreira (still underconstruction) ************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12813; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:56:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19383; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay.xlink.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19375; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:52:43 -0700 Received: from sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de by relay.xlink.net id <52065-0@relay.xlink.net>; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:52:15 +0000 Received: from hermes.rz.uni-sb.de (hermes.rz.uni-sb.de [134.96.7.3]) by sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (8.6.12/v2.0) with ESMTP id IAA09512; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:52:15 +0200 Received: from stud.uni-sb.de by hermes.rz.uni-sb.de via SMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/950302.USB) id IAA03808; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:52:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:52:09 +0200 (CST) From: Mark Henning To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create olders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Terry ! Thanks for your Answer ! You asked for more information about the PCPine-Problem : I store my UNIX-folder with the extension "MTX", so they are visible in Pine's folderlist. When I chose the command "Add folder" I get the message "Folder XY created", and in fact, there is a new file on my harddisc called XY.MTX, but it is 0 Bytes long (Is this correct ?). When I try to go into this folder, I get the error "Not a folder". Then I tried to go around this problem by saving messages to this new folder, but there's also an error occuring : "Indeterminate mailbox-format". Is it possible that I have to install the Microsoft Network ? Or have I to make any changes in the SYSTEM.INI ? Maybe PCPine does fileread and filewrite over the network-driver ? (The filemanager gives an network-like error when I try to open a folder which is opened by pine at the same time.) - Mark On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > The usual mailbox format used on Unix systems uses "From " lines as > message separators. The PC-Pine mailbox driver for this format is > a READ-ONLY driver; that is, PC-Pine is not capable of appending > messages to folders in this format, nor updating their status fields. > > The native mailbox PC-Pine uses is called "MTX" and it does not use > the "From " lines as message separators (it has a different separator > format with length and flag info in it.) > > I don't know why PC-Pine is letting you append to a READ-ONLY folder, > nor do I understand why creating and using a new local folder is not > working for you. If you have any additional data on those points, > please let us know. > > Note that PC-Pine is not yet designed for off-line use, so you are > swimming upstream to a certain extent, but it should be possible to > save all the messages from a Unix-style folder that is READ ONLY into > a new native/local MTX folder, and have full R/W access to that MTX > folder. > > -teg > > On Fri, 31 May 1996, Mark Henning wrote: > > > Hi ! > > > > I'm using PCPine 3.93 (32-bit-Version, I think) with WIN 3.11 as an > > offline-mail-manager. > > At the university I work with Pine under Unix and it works fine, but from > > time to time I have to copy some folders onto my home-PC (My PC has no > > net-connection, so Pine starts with a "Cannot connect"-Error). > > > > I have configured my folder-collection like this: > > Desktop D:\Mail\[] > > > > It is possible to read the folders, but they are all readonly, so I > > cannot delete messages. But it is curiously possible to save messages > > into the other readonly folders which Pine has marked as readonly... > > > > And it is also impossible to create new folders: Pine > > writes empty folderfiles onto my harddisk but is neither able to open > > them nor to save messages into. > > > > When I save the first message from a folder A into a folder B, so the > > message will be added, but the line with the "From ..."-mark which marks > > the begin of a new message, has a new character at its beginn, so that > > Pine doesnt find this message. > > > > Are there any suggestions to solve this problem ? > > > > Thanx, > > > > - Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12842; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19419; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19413; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:55:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQq0L-00038DC; Mon, 3 Jun 96 23:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffers@redrose.net (David Jeffers) Subject: Corrupt inbox? Date: 3 Jun 1996 16:39:30 GMT Message-Id: <4ov4g2$5ck@lily.redrose.net> Apparently my "/var/spool/mail/" file is now corrupt since the error message upon starting Pine 3.93 (Linux) is: "inbox is not in proper mail format." I've had no problems prior to this and I'm using a single user system, and no files are changed unless I change them.... Now what? -- Linux 1.2.13 ---------------------------------- Email Politics Hub From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13066; Tue, 4 Jun 96 00:09:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04966; Tue, 4 Jun 96 00:06:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04960; Tue, 4 Jun 96 00:06:20 -0700 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA15688 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:05:53 +0200 Received: from itsrm1 (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA11857 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:03:52 +0400 (MDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:05:15 +0400 (MOW) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: How to force folder to be in specific format? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, pine users! Is it possible to force a folder to be in a specific format? What I mean is following: the Pine include long list of mailbox drivers for different formats. No suppose I go in folder menu and create new folder. How can I say, that I want this folder to be in, e.g., TENEX format instead of mbox? The same question if I S)ave or Fcc message - is it possible to force new folder to be in specific format? thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15730; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:02:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06434; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06422; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:00:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQrtU-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 01:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sean F. McHenry" Subject: Please Help! (libc.so.4) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 22:19:15 -0400 Message-Id: <31B39D23.46DD@indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install Pine391 under Red Hat Linux. I have unzipped and untarred the appropriate binaries and placed them in usr/local/bin However, when I type pine to run it I get a message stating that it can not find "libc.so.4" How do I get around this? I do not check Usenet often so please e-mail me with any advice at smchenry@indiana.edu Thanks for your help! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15976; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:14:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21040; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21034; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:10:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQs5z-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 02:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create olders Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:02:31 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Jun 1996, Mark Henning wrote: > I store my UNIX-folder with the extension "MTX", so they are visible in > Pine's folderlist. > When I chose the command "Add folder" I get the message "Folder XY > created", and in fact, there is a new file on my harddisc called XY.MTX, > but it is 0 Bytes long (Is this correct ?). Yes, a newly created folder should be 0 bytes long. I'm confused. Do you have two files with the name XY? > When I try to go into this folder, I get the error "Not a folder". > Then I tried to go around this problem by saving messages to this > new folder, but there's also an error occuring : "Indeterminate > mailbox-format". Both of these error messages indicate that the file is not really empty. Please take a close look at the error message; you should find the file name in there. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17100; Tue, 4 Jun 96 03:24:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07202; Tue, 4 Jun 96 03:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07196; Tue, 4 Jun 96 03:10:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQt19-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 03:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jungshik@net161-61.student.yale.edu (Jungshik Shin) Subject: displayfilter in Solaris 2.4 Date: 4 Jun 1996 04:17:02 GMT Message-Id: <4p0dbu$egm@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> I found a really strange problem in Pine 3.93 under Solaris 2.4. I wrote a simple filter to decode ISO-2022-KR(7bit) encoded Korean mail back to EUC-KR (KSC 5601:8bit) and set it as a displayfilter ( "" /full/path/myfilter). It worked very well under Linux 2.0pre6 and AIX 4.x, but under Solaris 2.4, it gives me following error messages , the first of which appears when I try to display the message and the 2nd of which appears at the end of 'decoded'(filtered. yes, filter works even with error messages) message after I hit [return]. --------- Pipe command returned error. Hit return to continue. [Error: Formatting error: Pipe command returned error.] ------------- Since I know that 'stty' and other terminal related commands in shell start-up file can be causes of problem, I removed(well, backed up) all of them(.tcshrc,.cshrc, .bashrc,and even irrelvant .login and .profile), but I get the same error. More strange is 'mmencode' works well under Solaris if set as displayfilter. Hence, I wonder if there's any condition to be satisfied by 'filter' other than that it accepts standard input and writes to standard output. On all three platforms, I used binaries available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin. For your reference, my filter, "hmconv" is available at ftp://ftp.korea.stanford.edu/incoming/upload9604/hmconv.c I would be greatly obliged to anyone who can enlighten me on this issue. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22465; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:27:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10471; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ashur.cc.biu.ac.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10465; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:22:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by ashur.cc.biu.ac.il (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA46868; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:22:25 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:22:25 +0200 (WET) From: Daniel M Wells Reply-To: Daniel M Wells To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Changing the From parameter Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If a user has two personal names (Prof. A. Jones when writing to students and Alan Jones when writing to a colleagues) is there a simple way to change the From: field without having to change the config setup. At present I copied .pinerc to .pinercb, changed the personal name inside, and then using an alias I run pine -p pinercb to allow use of the secondary name in the From field. Perhaps a later version will allow this feature in the Compose mode (I'm using 3.93). **************************** * Daniel M. Wells * * Alls Well that ends Well * **************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22907; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:43:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10748; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10742; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:38:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQxEs-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chandrak@njmsa.UMDNJ.EDU (Arun Chandrakantan) Subject: Helpp in writing scripts in Pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:50:26 GMT Hello, My brother is using Pine in India and wants an idea of online command arguments in order to write scripts. Any idea where I can find such info? What are the file names? I have alreadt visited the ftp site but did not find the right stuff. Arun chandrak@njmsa.umdnj.edu -- ***************************************************************** * Arun Chandrakantan chandrak@njmsa.umdnj.edu * * Class of 1996 New Jersey Medical School * ***************************************************************** * To succeed, you must have tremendous perserverance, tremendous* * will. " I will drink the ocean", says the perservering soul; * * at my will mountains will crumble up." Have that sort of * * energy, that sort of will; work hard, and you will reach the * * GOAL. * * Swami Vivekananda(1863-1902) * ***************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23700; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:59:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25426; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:48:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25420; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:48:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQxOI-00038TC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Siamak Sohi Subject: Re: Answering messages in Pine 3.91. Bug? Date: 30 May 1996 11:02:24 GMT Message-Id: <4ojv80$khb@vidar.diku.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just testing -- _________________________________________________________________ | | | A mechanism of world inter-communication | | will be devised, embracing the whole planet, | | freed from national hindrances and restrictions, | | and functioning with marvellous swiftness and | | perfect regularity. | | | | Shoghi Effendi (1936) in World Order of Baha'u'llah | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23820; Tue, 4 Jun 96 08:02:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11294; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11288; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uQxU7-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 07:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Siamak Sohi Subject: Re: Answering messages in Pine 3.91. Bug? Date: 30 May 1996 11:03:18 GMT Message-Id: <4ojv9m$khb@vidar.diku.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just testing -- _________________________________________________________________ | | | A mechanism of world inter-communication | | will be devised, embracing the whole planet, | | freed from national hindrances and restrictions, | | and functioning with marvellous swiftness and | | perfect regularity. | | | | Shoghi Effendi (1936) in World Order of Baha'u'llah | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28546; Tue, 4 Jun 96 09:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28441; Tue, 4 Jun 96 09:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28433; Tue, 4 Jun 96 09:37:03 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA13852 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:41:46 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa00816; 4 Jun 96 16:20 WET Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:18:07 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Charles G Waldman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Wyse terminals, again In-Reply-To: <9606040342.AA25138@reactor.pgt> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Charles G Waldman wrote: > I know this is a FAQ, but after searching through the archives > I see that it is also a SAQ (Seldom Answered Question). Well, to me this is starting to become a Frequently Answered Question :-) To try to determine what your problems are, it is essential to know what your environment looks like. So, could you please tell: - What version of Pine you are using - For which system you are building it This could answer if you are using terminfo instead of termcap, in which case another Wyse 50 tic source might help. Also, Pine versions 3.92 and up do have keyboard support for Wyse like terminals with a proper termcap / terminfo (ahem..), but this does require a configuration change prior to building it. I'll be happy to try to help you, but please supply some more info first. > Charles G. Waldman > Senior Software Engineer > Princeton Gamma-Tech, Inc. > > cgw@pgt.com Regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03530; Tue, 4 Jun 96 11:17:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01545; Tue, 4 Jun 96 11:13:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01537; Tue, 4 Jun 96 11:13:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR0Z7-00038TC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ulrich Klein Subject: PINE for OpenVMS Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 18:19:18 -0700 Message-Id: <31B4E096.4D23@imt.fzk.d400.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anywhere a working PINE for VMS version available? I got the version 3.91 but this distribution only builds PICO but for the C-Client and PINE some files are missing. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11647; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:11:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21964; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:09:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21957; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:09:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR3ID-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djmer@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au (Darren Merritt) Subject: read-message-folder error in 3.90 Date: 4 Jun 1996 01:50:13 +1000 Message-Id: <4ov1jl$o4$1@melbourne.DIALix.oz.au> Could anyone help me please? I'm using Pine 3.90 under Linux. Whenever I enter a value for read-message-folder, it doesn't work as it should and I get the following error on exit: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. IOT trap/Abort Any advice much appreciated. Darren Merritt djmer@melbourne.dialix.oz.au From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11696; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:12:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06468; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:09:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06462; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR3ID-00038TC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 14:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@instbbs.com (Phoenix) Subject: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 05:50:16 GMT Message-Id: <4p08e5$o4k@goodnews.voicenet.com> Does Pine Support Bulk Mailing. Does anybody know of a really good bulk mailing program. = PhOeNiX = From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14749; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23649; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23643; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:19:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR4Mf-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Cabito Subject: Installing 3.93 for Linux Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 15:57:37 -0600 Message-Id: <31B4B151.68FC@cvn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to upgrade 3.90, so I grabbed 3.93 (pine-bin.linux) and couldn't help noticing that it's a 3.8MB executable. I'm not going to fire up this program without knowing what it's going to do. Is it a self-install? Anyone know? (I'm using Linux 1.2.13.) Thanks! -Steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15219; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:32:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08265; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:29:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08259; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:29:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR4XN-00038TC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Virtual Joe Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:09:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 24 May 1996, Peter Jaeckel wrote: > I am usning pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a nesgroup and later > on check to look for replies, I notice that my message appears in the > newsgroup with > To: > in the field where my name should be. It only looks that way to you because _you_ sent it. If you go to your sentmail folder, you'll see that _all_ outgoing email from you looks that way. It looks completely normal to the rest of us. Easy enough, huh?...laters... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: < http://www.creighton.edu/~jduche/>> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15439; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:37:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23997; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:34:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23991; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:34:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR4dm-00038UC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@instbbs.com (Phoenix) Subject: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 00:51:20 GMT Message-Id: <4p2b9m$773@goodnews.voicenet.com> Does Pine Support Bulk Mailing. Does anybody know of a really good bulk mailing program. = PhOeNiX = From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16891; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:10:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09205; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:04:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09199; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:04:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR58l-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@instbbs.com (Phoenix) Subject: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 00:51:11 GMT Message-Id: <4p2b9e$773@goodnews.voicenet.com> Does Pine Support Bulk Mailing. Does anybody know of a really good bulk mailing program. = PhOeNiX = From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19648; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:03:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26361; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:59:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26352; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:59:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR607-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@instbbs.com (Phoenix) Subject: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL: BULK MAIL Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 00:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <4p2b96$773@goodnews.voicenet.com> Does Pine Support Bulk Mailing. Does anybody know of a really good bulk mailing program. = PhOeNiX = From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21806; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:43:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11680; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11674; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:39:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR6YN-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lswillia@indiana.edu (Lisa S Williams) Subject: Re: Displaying complete header? Date: 4 Jun 1996 03:07:40 GMT Message-Id: <4p099s$7r@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <4oe0n1$8lf$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> S. Lanyon (103123.512@CompuServe.COM) wrote: : When reading messages in Pine, is there a way to display the : complete header (i.e. path, etc.)? I've looked through some FAQs : and help files but I haven't managed to find an answer, so any : help here would be appreciated. Whoa, guys, I've seen various answers here, and I think maybe S. Lanyon may be being misread, not careless. I'm here for what is likely the same question. I *HAVE* enabled full headers through Configuration. My problem is that "full headers" doesn't include the *complete* path of a received message. What I'm needing right now is the info on the full path that the message followed. I know that some people's mail programs have that info, plus the time that the mail was actually sent, not just the time it was received at my local host. I'm running Pine 3.91. Someone has indicated to me that perhaps this feature is available on 3.93 and that I'd have to try to exit Pine and edit my mail folder to get the *complete* header info in 3.91. Unfortunately, I know how to edit mail files outside of pine, but I don't know what I'd have to do to a Mail folder to get that info. For all I know, this may even be a problem related to the system here at my institution--perhaps they have set it up so as not to display all the info for an incoming message if full header mode--just the local machine info. I've read helpfiles and archives and updates and tried to find this info in a FAQ, and I'm stymied. Anybody got an answer? --Bou From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25451; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29298; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:00:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29292; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:00:45 -0700 Received: (from shilpa@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.4/8.7.3) id IAA26605; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:28:42 +0530 (IST) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:28:42 +0530 (GMT+5:30) From: Dr Shilpa Pratap To: Cengiz Acarturk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: newsgroups & pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear LostDeath, What's tin? Pl enlighten. Thanks in advance. Dr S.//// On Thu, 30 May 1996, Cengiz Acarturk wrote: > > On Thu, 23 May 1996, LostDeath wrote: > > > > > a month ago i started to use pine to get access to newsgroups... > > however i've now a problem ... i'm subscibed to some newsgroups that have > > thousands of messages....i would like to know if there are any way to > > delete them at once instead of deleting one by one..... > > > hi! > Well, I used tin to delete. I deleted the groups by pattern using tin. > They will be automatically deleted from your pine session. > I did. > You can... > Regards... > CENGIZ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26114; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:36:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29790; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:34:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29784; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:34:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uR9Im-00038TC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 20:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: printfilter Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:11:07 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I like 'displayfilter' added in Pine 3.92 or later very much and I think it would be nice to have 'printfilter' as well. I'm aware that alternative print command can be used, but 'printfilter' can be handy if one uses Pine on remote host via dial-up connection(just Unix shell access) and wants to print out with a printer attached to a local computer(print via 'attached ANSI'). In that case, command like 'filter | lpr' doesn't work and need for 'printfilter' arises. It'd be also nice if one can specify more than one printer filter and is prompted for selection. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27792; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:16:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15694; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:14:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15688; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:14:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRAvF-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Why does pine use Q-P internally? Date: 4 Jun 1996 21:55:20 GMT Message-Id: <4p2bc8$hl0@due.unit.no> References: In article , Terry Gray wrote: >Paul, >If you see raw quoted-printable, it means Pine doesn't think this is a >MIME message --perhaps because a gateway or listserv corrupted the msg >in some way (e.g. stripped the MIME header out.) > >In other words, Q-P decoding should be completely transparent, as long >as it is a syntactically correct MIME msg. Which reminds me, why does pine use Q-P in its folder format? I sometimes use "less" to browse through a saved mail folder, and it would be more useful to have the folder in 8bit format, even if the original message was received as Q-P. Nowadays this is becoming less of an issue for me as our sendmail already converts incoming Q-P messages, but my sent-mail folders still contain Q-P. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28292; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:43:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01518; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:39:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01512; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:39:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRBIH-00038DC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Can Save transfer from one mail host to another? Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:28:29 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Alan J. Flavell wrote: :>I'd like to use PINE to transfer email(s) from a folder on :>one mail host (say A), to a folder (with same or different name) :>on a different mail host (say B). :> :>Is this possible in principle? If so, how does the syntax :>look for the destination folder on the other host? :> Well, here is one way of doing it. Declare a folder collection on the target system. Quit and reenter if necessary (which will at some point cause you to quuote the password for the target system). select the individual or group of messages to be Saved, but instead of responding to the prompt us the "To Folders" option (^T), move to the relevant collection, give a name, and it will all happen. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28794; Tue, 4 Jun 96 23:04:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16292; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu.chiangmai.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16280; Tue, 4 Jun 96 22:59:17 -0700 Received: by cmu.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08233; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:55:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:55:01 -0700 (GMT) From: Pornchai Rachtanapun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscrib pine-info pornchai Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscrib pine-info pornchai From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06966; Wed, 5 Jun 96 02:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19748; Wed, 5 Jun 96 02:30:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19742; Wed, 5 Jun 96 02:30:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uREsq-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 02:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa5gle@zen.sunderland.ac.uk (gary.lemmon) Subject: CGI enablement Message-Id: <4p18ci$f0e@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Date: 4 Jun 1996 11:58:10 GMT -- I have a bit of an odd situation here! My sysop doesn't know how to enable user access to the cgi-bin directory so that I can uset GET/POST from my website. I am calling upon you to let me know how this guy can go about letting me use cgi scripts e.t.c. Because he doesn't seem to know really. eMail me on aa5gle@zen.sunderland.ac.uk if u like... __ __ Have (__\ [Pegasus] /__) Fun! (__\ /__) Gary 8-) (__\ ||||| /__) \ ( o o ) / +---------------------oOOOo---U---oOOOo---------------------+ | http://zen.sunderland.ac.uk/~aa5gle/ | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ | Do one thing-Do it well-Do it better than anyone else | +-----------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16386; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:26:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09908; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:16:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09902; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:16:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRKIs-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaron@xmission.com (Aaron M. Scarisbrick) Subject: Re: Wyse terminals, again Date: 4 Jun 1996 16:49:59 GMT Message-Id: <4p1pfn$ie0@news.xmission.com> References: <9606040342.AA25138@reactor.pgt> Charles G Waldman (cgw@pgt.com) wrote: : I know this is a FAQ, but after searching through the archives : I see that it is also a SAQ (Seldom Answered Question). : : The problem: Bad behavior on Wyse-50 terminals. I was assigned Funny you should ask, as I just had to do this. The fix to my problem was two things: 1) In pine/makefile.xxx and pico/makefile.xxx (where xxx is sv4 or whatever your system is) on the STDCFLAGS line add -DTERMCAP_WINS and this will make the arrow keys work on the Wyse terminals. Be advised that they will have to use the "Delete" key for deleting characters because "Backspace" is the exact same control sequence as the left arrow key. Also, because ^K is the up arrow key, you will have to use the Esc-Esc-K equivalent for "Cut Text". My makefile line looked like: STDCFLAGS= -Dsv4 -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DTERMCAP_WINS 2) I also had weird (what looked like) termcap problems, but what it turned out to be was that pine & pico were swallowing the XON/XOFF characters, and thus screwing up the display to varying degrees. What I had to do to fix it was in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf I added to the "feature-list" line the preserve-start-stop-characters and assume-slow-link options, and that fixed up the Wyse terminals nicely. My pine.conf line looked like: feature-list= preserve-start-stop-characters, assume-slow-link After re-building with the new makefile options, and the new options in the pine.conf file, everything now works great! As a final sidebar, if you are trying to build pine3.93 on a pyramid running dcosx, make sure you have the latest cc from pyramid (4.0 I think), otherwise you're in for SEGV city ;-) FWIW, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aaron M. Scarisbrick "Yes, this is correct." -Larry Wall --------------------------------------------------------------------------- aaron@xmission.com http://www.xmission.com/~aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16560; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:33:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24852; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:26:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24846; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:26:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRKSk-00038UC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 08:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robin Verduijn Subject: Displaying SIZE for messages in newsgroups Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:54:31 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know how to show the size (in bytes) of messages in a newsgroup ? I have set index-format to "STATUS MSGNO FROM SIZE SUBJECT", but Pine only shows the message size when I'm reading my incoming folders. Is this a bug of some sort or are there some Pine flags which I'm currently unaware of %-) Thanks in advance, - Robin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Microsoft Word for Win95 From the people who brought you "edlin" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18514; Wed, 5 Jun 96 09:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25818; Wed, 5 Jun 96 09:02:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from UTKUX1.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25812; Wed, 5 Jun 96 09:02:26 -0700 Received: by utkux.utcc.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK.UTCC) id AA23582; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:01:50 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Vickie Ann Woods X-Sender: vaw@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Subject: receiving mail In-Reply-To: <4onqpd$bc1@drb-mathsun3.usc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Vladimir, Thanks for the info. I don't have the right software, yet this information will come in handy in the near future. Vickie On 31 May 1996, Vladimir V. Piterbarg wrote: > vaw@utkux.utcc.utk.edu (Vickie Ann Woods) writes: > > > >Is there a way to have mail from certain addresses automatically go to a > >different file(a different inbox set aside for that address)? > > > Yes there is, but to do that, you need to use a separate filter program. > The one I use is called, well, "filter" and comes with "elm" distribution. > If you have elm on your system, then you have this filter program; if not, > maybe your sysadm installed something similar, and you should check with him. > > -Vladimir > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28466; Wed, 5 Jun 96 12:38:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17301; Wed, 5 Jun 96 12:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17295; Wed, 5 Jun 96 12:31:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uROFe-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 12:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Eason Subject: Re: Marking text for deletion Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:14:55 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: STILL HAVING TROUBLE? PERHAPS CTRL-6 INSTEAD OF TWO UPPERCASE 6 KEYS IS YOUR PROBLEM? just a thought...when you said "marks" (plural) i started thinking...(which i try to avoid, generally)...Yea or Nay? -30- On Wed, 29 May 1996, macvsog wrote: > I am using pine 3.91 and I can't figure out how to mark text and then > delete it. The help guide says to use "^^" to mark the text and then > delete it. I tried putting the marks at the beginning of the text and at ***** > the end and when I used ^K to delete the text, only the line the cursor > was on got deleted. > I would appreciate any help on this. > Thanks > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01406; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:39:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04593; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04587; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:31:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRPAC-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: send w/out confirm Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:50:45 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I didn't see anything in the config screen (in 3.91) where you can send a message without confirming. Does anyone know if there is a way to do this? Thanks in advance!!! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02587; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:02:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19603; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:56:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19597; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:56:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRPaT-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: by-nick-of-from behavior is strange in 3.93 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:39:09 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31B53A36.FF6@frec.bull.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31B53A36.FF6@frec.bull.fr> This problem will be addressed in Pine 3.94 with some new options.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Jacques Talbot wrote: > From: Jacques Talbot > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: by-nick-of-from behavior is strange in 3.93 > Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 09:41:42 +0200 > Organization: Bull Open Systems Platforms Business Unit > Message-ID: <31B53A36.FF6@frec.bull.fr> > NNTP-Posting-Host: egalmc2.frec.bull.fr > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; U; AIX 1) > > The behavior of the by-nick-of-from option in the saved-msg-name-rule > in the config menu of pine 3.93 is not what I would expect: > > if the from: field is in the .addressbook, pine saves to nickname: OK > if the from: field is not in the .addressbook, pine saves in > the default "saved-messages" folder, while I would expect it to save to > name derived from the by-from option. Looks more intuitive > Somehow the option should be named: by-nick-of-from-then-from > > Before submitting a Bug report, I would like to be sure I am not > missing something. > > Thanks for your collective help > -- > Jacques Talbot Bull 1 rue de Provence BP208 38432 Echirolles CEDEX France > Email:J.Talbot@frec.bull.fr DOAS: /BULL/FRECX/TALBOT J. > Phone: +33 7629 7519 FAX: +33 7629 7089 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04652; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:28:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05849; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:21:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05843; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:21:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRPyv-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lps@igate.iohk.com (S Chan) Subject: Re: [1mnewsgroups & pine [22m Date: 5 Jun 1996 09:06:49 GMT Message-Id: <4p3in9$s7l@ibridge.iohk.com> References: Dr Shilpa Pratap (shilpa@giasbm01.vsnl.net.in) wrote: : What's tin? tin is a Unix newsreader. I use it to read /respond to the newsgroups in prefernce to PINE. Like the rest of the unix world (to an outsider , at least) it has its share of odd features - but once you get used to it its fine. For me the major advantage over Pine is the way it groups postings and responses in 'threads' so you can quickly follow or skip all the posts on a particular subject. Hope that helps.. clam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05039; Wed, 5 Jun 96 14:35:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04816; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:42:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04808; Wed, 5 Jun 96 13:42:38 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA19721 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:41:21 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa07189; 5 Jun 96 22:27 WET Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 21:25:16 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Steve Cabito Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing 3.93 for Linux In-Reply-To: <31B4B151.68FC@cvn.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Steve Cabito wrote: > I'd like to upgrade 3.90, so I grabbed 3.93 (pine-bin.linux) and > couldn't help noticing that it's a 3.8MB executable. I'm not going to > fire up this program without knowing what it's going to do. Is it a > self-install? Anyone know? (I'm using Linux 1.2.13.) > > Thanks! Let's see... On my Linux 1.2.13 system the Pine executable I just built (bin/pine) is sized 5136382 bytes. That's 4.89Mb. I win! :-) I don't know if the pine-bin.linux you downloaded is self extracting or not (where did you get it from?), but it could very well just be a pine binary with some debug symbol leftovers. Try to run "strip" on it and see if it shrinks. Over here, this will reduce the size of the binary to 1.6Mb. Regards, - Richard. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09971; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:35:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23981; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:32:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23975; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:32:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRS3O-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Why does pine use Q-P internally? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:26:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4p2bc8$hl0@due.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4p2bc8$hl0@due.unit.no> On 4 Jun 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > Which reminds me, why does pine use Q-P in its folder format? I sometimes > use "less" to browse through a saved mail folder, and it would be more > useful to have the folder in 8bit format, even if the original message > was received as Q-P. Nowadays this is becoming less of an issue for me > as our sendmail already converts incoming Q-P messages, but my sent-mail > folders still contain Q-P. Your real question is: "Why doesn't Pine rewrite folders to convert Q-P to 8bit"? The answer is that we think it's morally wrong to tamper with message internals. We leave it in the same text that it arrived. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10339; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24110; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:35:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24093; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:35:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04938; Wed, 5 Jun 96 16:35:03 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Stefan Kramer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Subjects-only search of Pine Discussion Forum archives Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you have been using the searchable full-text index of the Pine Discussion Forum archives on the World Wide Web -- URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -- to search for previous discourse on a topic of interest, you may have found that your query retrieved many messages of little relevance to the subject. For example, your query on "PGP" ("pretty good privacy" encryption) might have retrieved a message that has nothing to do with that topic, but contained a 'signature' with the message sender's PGP key. To overcome that problem, the WWW Pine Discussion Forum archives now include a searchable index of ONLY the subject lines of messages (based on the assumption that the subject line adequately summarizes most messages' content). On the page at the aforementioned URL, you will now find two "search" links: one for the familiar full-text index, and a new one (below it) for the subject-line-only index. If you encounter any problems with, or have comments about, this new feature, please write to: PIC@cac.washington.edu ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center http://www.washington.edu/nic/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11728; Wed, 5 Jun 96 17:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24744; Wed, 5 Jun 96 17:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24738; Wed, 5 Jun 96 17:02:11 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09194; Wed, 5 Jun 96 17:02:10 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29741; Wed, 5 Jun 96 17:02:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:02:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Why does pine use Q-P internally? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Orjan, While I agree with Mark that an MUA shouldn't modify the CTE of messages in incoming mailboxes, I'd like to add a comment regarding outgoing (sent-mail) folders: We've found that it's *really* handy to have in the sent-mail folder an exact copy of the message as given to the MTA. I believe that if you use a modern sendmail and a recent Pine with 8BITMIME negotiation enabled, you will have what you want in your sent-mail folder. -teg On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 4 Jun 1996, Orjan Johansen wrote: > > Which reminds me, why does pine use Q-P in its folder format? I sometimes > > use "less" to browse through a saved mail folder, and it would be more > > useful to have the folder in 8bit format, even if the original message > > was received as Q-P. Nowadays this is becoming less of an issue for me > > as our sendmail already converts incoming Q-P messages, but my sent-mail > > folders still contain Q-P. > > Your real question is: "Why doesn't Pine rewrite folders to convert Q-P to > 8bit"? > > The answer is that we think it's morally wrong to tamper with message > internals. We leave it in the same text that it arrived. > > -- Mark -- > > DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" > Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13969; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:25:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26313; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:23:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26303; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:23:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRTkW-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: killfile Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:27:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, J P Slater wrote: > Can anyone help me with setting up a killfile in PINE 3.91? Thanks. Pine does not have killfile capability. For incoming email (at least on Un*x systems), you can set up a mail filtering program such as procmail or (Elm) filter to preprocess (and discard, if you want) mail messages. For newsgroups, I have never heard of anything that works with Pine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14499; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:45:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12224; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:43:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12218; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:43:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRU4W-00038TC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Haw@cris.com (Howard Walton) Subject: Missing header? Date: 6 Jun 1996 00:10:56 GMT Message-Id: <4p57mg$9pd@tribune.concentric.net> When I use Pine to post binaries to newsgroups, the header or beginning is always missing. As a result, the binary is unusable. Am I missing a step? Help! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17257; Wed, 5 Jun 96 21:13:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13936; Wed, 5 Jun 96 20:53:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13867; Wed, 5 Jun 96 20:48:24 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11591; Wed, 5 Jun 96 20:43:08 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01460; Wed, 5 Jun 96 20:43:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Sherwood Botsford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC pine config suggestions In-Reply-To: <4olfrt$17ns@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sherwood, Folder collections most assuredly do work with IMAP servers, but do look at the help text for the folder-collections variable, as the syntax is non-obvious. In your example, you would need: folder-collections= c:\mail\[], {mailhub.aardvark.com}mail/[] Once you have these working, then your GOTO problem should also be solved, since you can then use ^p or ^n to select the collection you want. -teg On 31 May 1996, Sherwood Botsford wrote: > Reference PC Pine for Windoze version 3.91. > > 1. In the setup for PC pine, it should be clearer that > inbox needs {imapserver.domain}inbox. I suggest that if it's not > set, that it default to sendmail relay host. (I bet there aren't a > lot of places that use a different relay host from the machine running > imapd.) > > 2. Folder collections don't seem to be able to take IMAP'd collections. > E.g. The following doesn't work. > folder-collections = c:\mail > {mailhub.aardvark.com}~/mail > > This is a real inconvenience, as users won't be at the same machine > all the time. At present goto works for this, but I've yet to figure > out a way to get a list of my unix based message folders. > > 3. For use in the goto, it would be convenient if there was some > abbreviation for your imap host. E.g. go to $sent-mail, the $ would > stand for whatever imap host had your mailbox. > > 4. Export needs to be able to export either on the remote machine > or on the local machine. Similarly for import in editing. These > would both be tricky. > > > -- > > Sherwood Botsford |Unsolicited email that advertises commercial > Physics Dept |activities will consitute a request for > U of Alberta |spellchecking of all words of less than three > Edmonton, AB, |characters. I charge $US500 for this service. > T6G 2J1 |There is no warranty of correctness of this service. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18466; Wed, 5 Jun 96 22:16:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29287; Wed, 5 Jun 96 22:13:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29273; Wed, 5 Jun 96 22:13:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRXK8-00038DC; Wed, 5 Jun 96 22:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert between Pine and Eudora Date: 6 Jun 1996 02:05:13 GMT Message-Id: <4p5ecp$alm@news1.radix.net> I have Perl scripts to convert address lists from Pine to Eudora and Eudora to Pine. They are at the bottom of my Web page at www.interguru.com Note: I want to write scripts to conver to and from Netscape. Can someone send me a Netscape address file (address.htm) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Thu, 6 Jun 96 03:43:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18913; Thu, 6 Jun 96 03:35:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18897; Thu, 6 Jun 96 03:34:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRcNb-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 03:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gsully@gsully.osha.igs.net (Greg Sullivan) Subject: Re: reply to Date: 3 Jun 1996 23:21:21 GMT Message-Id: References: On 3 Jun 1996 07:57:20 -0700, S.A.C. wrote: >I have not been able to find a way to change my "reply to" address. If >anyone knows how, I would appreciate your telling me. If there is >currently no way to do that, I would recommend that that be a future >addition to pine. I know of at least one person already who has had to >stop using pine and start using emacs to compose his email because he was >also unable to find a way to change the "reply to." Check out the `customized-hdrs' and `default-composer-hdrs' options in the Pine Setup. Basically `customized-hdrs=Reply-to:you@here' will change your default reply to address [replace you@here with the e-mail address that you wish to use. -- ________________________________________________________________________ Greg `SULLY' Sullivan | e-mail: gsully@osha.igs.net | www: http://www.osha.igs.net/~gsully ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01026; Thu, 6 Jun 96 08:06:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06523; Thu, 6 Jun 96 07:46:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06493; Thu, 6 Jun 96 07:45:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRgGw-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 07:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: mouse functionnalities in xterm ? Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:11:13 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Hi, I just installed the 3.93 version of pine and have been very pleased to read that it support x functionalities. I can verify that it was the case for enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon But for enable-mouse-in-xterm, I couldn't notice nothing new. The explanation in the help is not sufficient for me to understand what I can gain. This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text or commands. Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. I have the impression that discussion took place around cut&paste, sorry to raise again this issue, but what I read is not sufficient for me. More specifically, can anybody tell how I can "select commands" ? I would like to know if something is not wrong in the installation here. Thank you for any type of help Jean _____________________________________________________________________________ Jean Richelle Unité de Conformation des Macromolécules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650 35 87 Université libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 89 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium _____________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02396; Thu, 6 Jun 96 08:44:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23316; Thu, 6 Jun 96 08:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from andromeda.rutgers.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23288; Thu, 6 Jun 96 08:34:57 -0700 Received: (from rps@localhost) by andromeda.rutgers.edu (8.6.9+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.12) id LAA04082; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:34:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:34:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Schwartz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: runaway process problem with pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915771037-2011240180-834074657=:2887" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915771037-2011240180-834074657=:2887 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Some users on our machine are running into this problem. If they quit suddenly (e.g., turning computer off), pine then becomes a runaway process invisible to the use (see example below)--unless they run "ps -aux". The runaway process then deletes (so it appears, I have not been able to confirm that yet) the user's mail as it arrives. Is there something wrong with the way pine was installed on our system? I've used pine on many machines and it's only at Rutgers that I noticed this problem. --------------------- drinkard 25266 0.0 0.0 584 0 ? IW Jun 4 0:40 pine ---------------------- Thanks, /Ray Ray Schwartz, Multimedia/Reference Librarian (W) 201-648-5917 John Cotton Dana Library (Fax) 201-648-5944 Rutgers University (H) 201-656-8807 185 University Avenue rps@andromeda.rutgers.edu Newark, NJ 07102 schwartz@panix.com URL: http://newark.rutgers.edu/~rps/ --1915771037-2011240180-834074657=:2887-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04142; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:25:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24510; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24490; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:20:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRhk9-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: Re: invisible list Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:28:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Beth Peterson wrote: > (snip) > This is another question that I think is not possible but, I gotta ask. > Is there a way, that when you receive a message from a person who is > sending a message to a distribution list, so that you won't have to see > all 100 and some other names that the message was sent to? > Sure: write to the sender to say that (s)he should be using pine 3.93 with Lcc: in the default headers, and putting the nickname for that list into it! Of course, if said sender is pine-deprived, this will decrease your popularity .... ;-) R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Help Mother Nature keep Library of Congress her balance: buy a neo- Washington, DC 20540-4120 redneck some ammunition! rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15436; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:22:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15025; Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:59:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ICARUS.CC.UIC.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14998; Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:59:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (kszymk1@localhost) by icarus.cc.uic.edu (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA16208 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:58:29 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: icarus.cc.uic.edu: kszymk1 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:58:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Kimberly Kristen Szymkowiak X-Sender: kszymk1@icarus.cc.uic.edu Reply-To: Kimberly Kristen Szymkowiak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: trouble with e-mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a student at the university of illinois at chicago. I am in a class where we are dealing with searching the net and stuff and submitting our class assignments to each other on listserve. For this reason we had to open icarus accounts. I did, but I seem to be having a problem with getting mail from people. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15926; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:32:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01637; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:22:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from austria-c.it.earthlink.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01606; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:21:51 -0700 Received: from eberto (max3-gg-ca-17.earthlink.net [206.149.204.167]) by austria.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12130 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <31B74AC4.447A@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:16:52 -0700 From: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Organization: Megasys, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine users Subject: Recipients Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pine users: Is there any way to not display the entire list of recipients when reading mail on Pine 3.92? Most of our messages have 2 pages worth of Recipients, so we have to page forward to get to the message (which is usually much short than the recipient list). Thanks in advance, Eberto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18621; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02746; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:55:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02740; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:55:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRmj6-00038TC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hrishikesh Dixit Subject: Sending mail remotely... Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 15:32:58 -0700 Message-Id: <31B75C9A.48E6@dri.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all... I have a problem sending mail remotely using Pine- if i am rlogged in to my terminal and try sending mail thru Pine, I get an erro. can do everything else- read mail, file it, etc... Is this a Pine problem or a configuration problem or a system problem ? I'm using Pine-3.93, btw. Thanks ! ..Hrishi -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hrishikesh Dixit H: 607-277-8581 Xerox Design Research Institute O: 607-254-8653 Cornell University E-mail: hrishi@dri.cornell.edu Ithaca, NY 14853 URL: http://dri.cornell.edu/pub/hrishi/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19507; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:04:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16413; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:52:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16407; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:52:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRmli-00038UC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scancm@biobase.dk (Christian Mondrup) Subject: Re: Receiving 8-bits characters Date: 3 Jun 1996 13:44:10 GMT Message-Id: <4ouq7a$8hc@bioalp.biobase.dk> References: <31A63D9D.39AD@nt.fylkesbibl.no> <4oh04v$6jv@bioalp.biobase.dk> <4osqrp$hgt@due.unit.no> Magni Onsoien (magnio@datter.pvv.unit.no) wrote: : In article <4oh04v$6jv@bioalp.biobase.dk>, : Christian Mondrup wrote: : >: So here goes: How do I configure Pine to receive 8 bit characters : >: instead of the usual 7 bits? I need to do so to view/send the special : >: Nordic characters correctly. I'm using a Unix machine. : As far as I know pine is 8 bits? (Maybe except the header) : >: Could anyone give me a hand? Thanks. : > : >Get pine version >= 3.92 and mark the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation : > feature list item. : (Sorry I don't reply to the original message but I didn't see this : question until now) : I'm using pine 3.91 for unix, and I have no problems with 8bit characters. That's true if your sendmail handles 8bit characters correctly. But you will not be able to use 8bit characters in mail headers - e.g. the subject header - without using pine version >= 3.92. : But it might depend on telnet and what telnetprogram you are using. : try configure your telnetprgram for 8bit charachters. : Instead of telnet you may also use rlogin -l : (these things depends on how you use the unix system, if you log in from : a remote machine, fex a PC with telnet, or if you are directly on the : unix machine. : -- Magni : -- : Magni Onsoien : http://www.nvg.unit.no/~magnio : "Verda er ein forvirrande stad. Og betre vart det ikkje då Magni kom." -- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + Scandiatransplant, Skejby Hospital, University Hospital of Aarhus + + Brendstrupgaardsvej + + + + Phone: +49 89 49 53 01 + + Telefax: +45 89 49 60 07 + + E-Mail: scancm@biobase.dk + + + + Opinions expressed are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20403; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:11:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27723; Thu, 6 Jun 96 11:42:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27698; Thu, 6 Jun 96 11:41:15 -0700 Received: from localhost by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17561; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:41:39 +0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:41:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Re: Newsgroups & Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 672 On 28 May 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Please do not imbed control characters in headers OR in the body of a news > article. The results are unpredictable on some terminals, and irritating on > others. And when you reply to such a message, edit out the control characters so your reply doesn't do the same damage you're cautioning against! :-) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Administrator, Internetworking Services Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 U.S.A. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20556; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:12:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03272; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:08:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netra.soft.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03266; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:08:03 -0700 Received: from stpb.soft.net by netra.soft.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA27262; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:34:28 +0500 Received: from samar.sas.soft.net (sas.sas.soft.net) by stpb.soft.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA15863; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:29:15 +0500 Received: from sassun20.sas.soft.net (sassun20 [164.164.56.20]) by samar.sas.soft.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id DAA02829 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:39:15 +0500 Received: from sassun12.soft.net (sassun12 [164.164.56.12]) by sassun20.sas.soft.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id DAA10171 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:40:19 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost by sassun12.soft.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id DAA12482; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:38:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 03:38:46 -0500 (GMT) From: Ravi Krishna X-Sender: ravik@sassun12 Reply-To: Ravi Krishna To: Pine Information List Subject: Control characters (Re: Newsgroups & Pine). In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Chip Old wrote: > On 28 May 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > Please do not imbed control characters in headers OR in the body of a news > > article. The results are unpredictable on some terminals, and irritating on > > others. > > And when you reply to such a message, edit out the control characters so > your reply doesn't do the same damage you're cautioning against! :-) These control characters are a real pain. Shouldn't Pine display them as \xXX escape sequences or something, instead of sending them straight to the terminal? What do the Pine developers say? -- Ravi Krishna From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20619; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:12:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08788; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:30:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08764; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:30:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRhvD-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 09:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: newsgroups & pine Date: 28 May 96 13:54:05 GMT Message-Id: References: LostDeath writes: Please do not imbed control characters in headers OR in the body of a news article. The results are unpredictable on some terminals, and irritating on others. > a month ago i started to use pine to get access to newsgroups... >however i've now a problem ... i'm subscibed to some newsgroups that have >thousands of messages....i would like to know if there are any way to >delete them at once instead of deleting one by one..... > thanks in advance : > Rui Miguel Sequeira > L42498@alfa.ist.utl.pt > rmcss@camoes.rnl.ist.utl.pt > http://alfa.ist.utl.pt/~l42498 -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20779; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:15:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03441; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:12:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shooter.bluemarble.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03435; Thu, 6 Jun 96 15:12:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (edit@localhost) by shooter.bluemarble.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA25175 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:12:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:12:34 -0500 (EST) From: Paul E Kayak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: changing a folder's name Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can a folder's name be changed? Or alternatively, is there a way to move a *set* of mssgs from one folder to another? For any help, thanks in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02263; Thu, 6 Jun 96 20:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24010; Thu, 6 Jun 96 20:30:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24004; Thu, 6 Jun 96 20:30:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRsFY-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 20:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: mail filters for folders Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:57:20 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Pat Schmidt wrote: > If there is an answer to my question on a FAQ somewhere, please point me > to it. I wish to be able to filter incoming mail into pre-chosen folders. If you have a World Wide Web browser, browse my home page and follow the link on mail filtering and such to Nancy McGough's pages. She has a great deal of good, useful material on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04004; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:47:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11368; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11362; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:45:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRtNd-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: J P Slater Subject: killfile Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:55:53 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone help me with setting up a killfile in PINE 3.91? Thanks. J.P. Slater + "It's not our fault!!" UW-Milwaukee + jps@csd.uwm.edu + -Kei and Yuri..."the Lovely Angels"- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04028; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:47:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11376; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11370; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRtNe-00038UC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robin Verduijn Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:55:00 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > On Fri, 24 May 1996, Peter Jaeckel wrote: > > > > > I am using pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a newsgroup and later > > > on check to look for replies, I notice that my message appears in the > > > newsgroup with > > > To: > > > in the field where my name should be. I had just the same problem. Fact is, Pine defaults to showing a FROMORTO field in your message index, instead of a FROM field. Every message you sent is thus marked with the "To:" field instead of your own name. You can change this by setting index-format=STATUS MSGNO DATE FROM(33%) SIZE SUBJECT(67%) in your Pine configuration. Hope this helps -Robin Microsoft: "One OS to rule them all, One OS to find them, One OS to bring them all and in the darkness bind them." -- apologies to tolkien From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04053; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25014; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25008; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRtNd-00038TC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick O'Sullivan Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 05:27:12 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Virtual Joe wrote: > On Fri, 24 May 1996, Peter Jaeckel wrote: > > > I am using pine3.93. Whenever I send anything to a newsgroup and later > > on check to look for replies, I notice that my message appears in the > > newsgroup with > > To: > > in the field where my name should be. > > It only looks that way to you because _you_ sent it. If you go to your > sentmail folder, you'll see that _all_ outgoing email from you looks that > way. It looks completely normal to the rest of us. > > Easy enough, huh?...laters... Thanks, I was just about to ask the same question. So, why does Pine act this way? Is the intentional or just a weird behavior? __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- 'In case of doubt, make it sound convincing.' - Finagle's Fourth Rule From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04082; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25026; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25020; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:46:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRtNe-00038VC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shay Cohen Subject: From header Date: 5 Jun 1996 17:23:32 GMT Message-Id: <4p4fqk$k70@post.tau.ac.il> Hi all, how can I change the from header with pine? I use a ppp account, and my address is not the same always. I use right now reply-to header, but some people don't use it, so I don't get replies.. when I tried to change the from header with cutomized-hdrs in .pinerc pine didnt let me (it refuses to change the from header). can I fix it? please e-mail me. Thanks, Shay. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04729; Thu, 6 Jun 96 22:18:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11772; Thu, 6 Jun 96 22:16:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11766; Thu, 6 Jun 96 22:16:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRtrN-00038DC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 22:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kenneth Liew Subject: newbie question: can pine uses pop3???? Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 09:18:08 +0800 Message-Id: <31B78350.7721@pacific.net.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using A workstation, however, all my mails resides in B server (mail server)... in the past, I used PC mailing client to access my mails... now, I wish to use pine to access it ... can I do that? the mail server uses pop3. Thanks.. Cheers, Ken -- ---------- Kenenth Liew kenliew@pacific.net.sg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05773; Thu, 6 Jun 96 23:23:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26243; Thu, 6 Jun 96 23:20:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26237; Thu, 6 Jun 96 23:20:11 -0700 Received: by cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02127; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:18:04 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:18:04 -0700 From: Suvimol Chatmongkolchat Message-Id: <9606072018.AA02127@cmu1.chiangmai.ac.th> To: root@docserver.cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: this is a recording (last changed May 23 13:05) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Hello sir or ms I want detail of mail program and pine program but I cant clearly understand on your letter Can you tell me if you are robot or human? sincere student From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07223; Fri, 7 Jun 96 00:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27105; Fri, 7 Jun 96 00:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27099; Fri, 7 Jun 96 00:36:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRw1u-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 00:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr (Christophe Caron) Subject: pine 3.93 and reply Date: 7 Jun 1996 07:07:39 GMT Message-Id: <4p8kfr$2in@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> When I try to reply to a mail with this header : From: toto To: caron@jouy.inra.fr Pine asks me always: Reply to all recipients? But I have only one recipient.... If i reply yes I receive the reply ..... Any Idea thanks -- ========================================================= = Christophe Caron Unite Informatique de Jouy = = I.N.R.A. Domaine de Vilvert = = 78352 Jouy-en-Josas email : caron@jouy.inra.fr = ========================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07990; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:14:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13956; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:12:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13950; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:12:43 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:10:12 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA05890; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:11:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:11:56 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rick O'Sullivan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Why is my address ``To: ...'' with pine 3.93 ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, Pine's behaviour *is* intentional, to present you with the maximum amount of information within the space available. I believe the thought pattern goes domething like this: * When someone sends you a message it is most useful to see who it is _from_ in the Index. * For messages you _send_ there is little to be gained from putting the sender's (your own) e-mail address in the Index: - The presence of your name in the Index list merely shows the message was sent by yourself. - There is no indication as to whether the message was one you sent to yourself (eg, to remind you to do something the next day), or just CC'd to yourself? * Instead how about displaying who the message was sent _to_ in the Index? + The presence of the "To:" prefix shows the message was sent by yourself. + You also get to see who the message was sent _to_. So you benefit by getting more information conveyed to you through the Index listing. (Just remember that if you see a "To:" prefix it means you sent this message ... should be obvious, huh? :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Rick O'Sullivan wrote: > Easy enough, huh?...laters... > Thanks, I was just about to ask the same question. So, why does > Pine act this way? Is the intentional or just a weird behavior? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08061; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:17:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27597; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:14:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27591; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:14:45 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:12:09 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06182; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:13:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:13:32 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: J P Slater Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: killfile In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 1. No versions of Pine yet support killfiles. 2. The current version of Pine is 3.93; you should look at upgrading to that or the nearing Pine 3.94 in order to take advantage of bug fixes and many improvements. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, J P Slater wrote: > > Can anyone help me with setting up a killfile in PINE 3.91? Thanks. > > > > > J.P. Slater + "It's not our fault!!" > UW-Milwaukee + > jps@csd.uwm.edu + -Kei and Yuri..."the Lovely Angels"- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08121; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:20:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14013; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:18:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14007; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:18:13 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:15:20 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07063; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:16:50 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:16:49 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Shay Cohen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: From header In-Reply-To: <4p4fqk$k70@post.tau.ac.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is not something that is controllable vie command line or configuration file options. Instead you will need to make a change to the source code and recompile Pine. Go to the pine/osdep/ directory and edit the os-XXX.h file for your platform. Look through it for a commented out line saying: /* #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM /* comment out to not allow changing From */ Uncomment the line, then recompile Pine. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 5 Jun 1996, Shay Cohen wrote: > Hi all, > > how can I change the from header with pine? I use a ppp account, and > my address is not the same always. I use right now reply-to header, > but some people don't use it, so I don't get replies.. > when I tried to change the from header with cutomized-hdrs in .pinerc > pine didnt let me (it refuses to change the from header). > can I fix it? please e-mail me. > > Thanks, > Shay. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08937; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14228; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:34:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14222; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:34:19 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:31:41 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10205; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:33:06 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:33:06 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Cc: Pine users Subject: Re: Recipients In-Reply-To: <31B74AC4.447A@earthlink.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not much that you can do once such a message has been received. Instead, however, help everybody the message goes to by contacting the sender and suggesting they start using the "Bcc" field to enter the list of recipients rather than the "To:" field. Hint #1: Make sure a valid "To:" field is still given -- either their own e-mail address or something magical like this "Recipient List:;" (it's the ":;" that's magical). Hint #2: If they're using Pine AND are sending to a distribution list in their Address Book THEN use the "Lcc" field instead of "Bcc". (The main difference is that the name of the list will be copied from the Lcc field to the To field along with the magical ":;".) Hint #3: With Pine you can get to see/use the Bcc and Lcc fields by: starting to compose your message, put the cursor on any header field, typing ^R. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Eberto de Armas, Jr. wrote: > Pine users: > > Is there any way to not display the entire list of recipients when > reading mail on Pine 3.92? Most of our messages have 2 pages worth of > Recipients, so we have to page forward to get to the message (which is > usually much short than the recipient list). > > Thanks in advance, > > Eberto > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09067; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:46:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14341; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14335; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:42:39 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:39:37 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11338; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:41:04 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:41:04 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Paul E Kayak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: changing a folder's name In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > Can a folder's name be changed? (I'm constantly amazed by how unadventurous or unobservant some people are... :-) 1. At the Main Menu type "L" to go to the Folder List screen. (This lists your folders(!) and lets you open/manipulate them.) 2. Move the highlight onto the folder in question. 3. Gaze thoughtfully at the command menu at the bottom of the screen: ? Help M Main Menu P PrevFldr - PrevPage D Delete R Rename O OTHER CMDS V [ViewFldr] N NextFldr Spc NextPage A Add ^^^^^^^^ ("Gosh! I wonder what that 'Rename' command does!" ;-) > Or alternatively, is there a way to move > a *set* of mssgs from one folder to another? Admittedly this is slightly less intuitive in the first instance... 0. (A once and for all step). At the Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen by typing "S" then "C". Look down the list of options and make sure "enable-aggregate-command-set" is selected (we configure Pine so that this is the systemwide default). 1. Go to the Folder Index screen, which summarises the messages in your folder. 2. Use the Select (;) command to choose an appropriate set of messages. Eg, ";A" will select all messages. 3. Apply a command to the selected set using the Apply (A) command. Eg, "AS" will apply a Save command to every selected message, allowing you to move them en bloc to another folder. Hint: As well as Select (;) and Apply (A) there is also Zoom (Z), which temporarily hides all unselected messages from the Index listing. A second Zoom will include them again. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09141; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:48:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14351; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:42:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14345; Fri, 7 Jun 96 01:42:52 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:40:44 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA11583; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:42:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:42:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Hrishikesh Dixit Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending mail remotely... In-Reply-To: <31B75C9A.48E6@dri.cornell.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is no way of us knowing until you share the exact wording of the error message with us (and when it occurs: immediately you type ^X? returned to you as an e-mail a few minutes after you sent your message?) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Hrishikesh Dixit wrote: > Hi all... > > I have a problem sending mail remotely using Pine- if i am rlogged in to > my terminal and try sending mail thru Pine, I get an erro. can do > everything else- read mail, file it, etc... > Is this a Pine problem or a configuration problem or a system problem ? > > I'm using Pine-3.93, btw. > > Thanks ! > > ..Hrishi > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hrishikesh Dixit H: 607-277-8581 > Xerox Design Research Institute O: 607-254-8653 > Cornell University E-mail: hrishi@dri.cornell.edu > Ithaca, NY 14853 URL: http://dri.cornell.edu/pub/hrishi/ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09676; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:13:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28254; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:05:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28244; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:05:50 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:02:55 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA17343; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:04:01 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:04:01 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Ravi Krishna Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Control characters (Re: Newsgroups & Pine). In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.92 and later suppress them in the message's body (unless you have the "pass-control-characters-as-is" set). However they weren't detected/suppressed from the Subject text. I reported this as a Bug (using Pine's very handy Bug (B) command) a few days ago after getting fed up with having my terminal set into bold all the time by replies to the "Newsgroups & Pine" thread. They quickly acknowledged my report and indicated it will be fixed in Pine 3.94. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Ravi Krishna wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Chip Old wrote: > > > On 28 May 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > > > > Please do not imbed control characters in headers OR in the body of a news > > > article. The results are unpredictable on some terminals, and irritating on > > > others. > > > > And when you reply to such a message, edit out the control characters so > > your reply doesn't do the same damage you're cautioning against! :-) > > > These control characters are a real pain. Shouldn't Pine display them > as \xXX escape sequences or something, instead of sending them > straight to the terminal? > > What do the Pine developers say? > > > -- Ravi Krishna > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09775; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:17:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14736; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:14:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14730; Fri, 7 Jun 96 02:14:48 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:10:57 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA15753; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:59:57 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:59:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Christophe Caron Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.93 and reply In-Reply-To: <4p8kfr$2in@saphir.jouy.inra.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As you might be able to see in this message, your e-mail address on outgoing messages (and presumably interpreted by Pine) is "caron@jade.jouy.inra.fr". However in the message you quote the To line is to "caron@jouy.inra.fr" Without assistance Pine has no way of knowing that these two machines -- jade.jouy.inra.fr and jouy.inra.fr -- are one and the same (at least as far as mail is concerned). Some things for you to try changing in the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu)... 1. Set "use-only-domain-name" to "Yes". This strips off the current host name (jade) from the fully qualified domain leaving just "jouy.inra.fr". Check whether this has worked: A. The Index screen should show a "+" at the extreme left hand side of the line summarising your message. B. When you start a Reply (there's no need to actually send it) you should NOT be prompted whether you want to reply to all recipients. 2. If this didn't work, try setting the value back to "No". Now try setting the "user-domain" variable to "jouy.inra.fr". Check whether this has now worked. 3. If it hasn't then resort to persuading Pine you are known by other e-mail addresses too (set up the "alt-addresses" variable with a list of your (full) other e-mail addresses). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 7 Jun 1996, Christophe Caron wrote: > > When I try to reply to a mail with this header : > > From: toto > To: caron@jouy.inra.fr > > Pine asks me always: > > Reply to all recipients? > > But I have only one recipient.... > If i reply yes I receive the reply ..... > > > Any Idea > thanks > > > > -- > > ========================================================= > = Christophe Caron Unite Informatique de Jouy = > = I.N.R.A. Domaine de Vilvert = > = 78352 Jouy-en-Josas email : caron@jouy.inra.fr = > ========================================================= > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11308; Fri, 7 Jun 96 03:27:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15497; Fri, 7 Jun 96 03:21:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15491; Fri, 7 Jun 96 03:21:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRyea-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 03:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Henning Subject: Re: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create folders Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:56:33 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi ! > On 3 Jun 1996, Mark Henning wrote: > > I store my UNIX-folder with the extension "MTX", so they are visible in > > Pine's folderlist. > > When I chose the command "Add folder" I get the message "Folder XY > > created", and in fact, there is a new file on my harddisc called XY.MTX, > > but it is 0 Bytes long (Is this correct ?). > > I'm confused. Do you have two files with the name XY? No, I don't. There are some folders in my directory and I create a new one called XY. A folder called XY doesn't exist at this moment. > > When I try to go into this folder, I get the error "Not a folder". > > Then I tried to go around this problem by saving messages to this > > new folder, but there's also an error occuring : "Indeterminate > > mailbox-format". > > Both of these error messages indicate that the file is not really empty. > Please take a close look at the error message; you should find the file > name in there. The name is correct: "D:/Daten/Mail/XY" and when I observe the folders with Windows' filemanager or from the DOS-prompt, the file is listed with 0 Bytes. Very confusing... - Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14426; Fri, 7 Jun 96 04:49:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00548; Fri, 7 Jun 96 04:46:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00536; Fri, 7 Jun 96 04:46:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uRzwn-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 04:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Displaying SIZE for messages in newsgroups Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:35:41 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is a limitation fo current versions of Pine. Pine is not able to determine message size accurately or quickly and therefore does not display it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Robin Verduijn wrote: > From: Robin Verduijn > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Displaying SIZE for messages in newsgroups > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 15:54:31 +0200 > Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: wagner.cs.ruu.nl > > > Does anyone know how to show the size (in bytes) of messages in a newsgroup ? > I have set index-format to "STATUS MSGNO FROM SIZE SUBJECT", but Pine only > shows the message size when I'm reading my incoming folders. > > Is this a bug of some sort or are there some Pine flags which I'm currently > unaware of %-) > > Thanks in advance, > > - Robin > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Microsoft Word for Win95 > From the people who brought you "edlin" > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15177; Fri, 7 Jun 96 05:20:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17102; Fri, 7 Jun 96 05:16:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17096; Fri, 7 Jun 96 05:16:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS0R5-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 05:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matt@visible.co.uk Subject: Re: Pine on UnixWare 2.01 Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:28:48 GMT Message-Id: <833376528.3197.0@visible.demon.co.uk> References: <01bb48e1.501c8b30$0a642790@netstation> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have on several machines, It just worked!! The binaries for Pine3.91 are on ftp.novell.co.uk/pub/unixware/freebird/pine Give it a try, it works with no problems From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18306; Fri, 7 Jun 96 07:25:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02688; Fri, 7 Jun 96 07:17:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02682; Fri, 7 Jun 96 07:17:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS2HD-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patrick Dery Subject: FROM: field changed to TO: field in 3.93's Newsgroups? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:17:27 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Our sysop just installed 3.93 on our unix lan, and I noticed something I don't like very much. Maybe someone can help me to get back things like they used to be in 3.92? ;-) What happens is that, for the letters _I_ post only, the FROM: field in the index of the newsgroup is changed into the TO: field. Here's an example: 4 Jun 5 To: ott.general,mtl.g Re: Doug Young 5 Jun 5 To: Martin Ramshaw Re: Doug Young 6 Jun 5 Daniel A. Szpiro Re: Doug Young 7 Jun 5 Elie Charest Re: Doug Young As you see above, messages number 4 and 5 are mine, number 6 and 7 aren't. What I awaited to see is: 4 Jun 5 Patrick Dery Re: Doug Young 5 Jun 5 Patrick Dery Re: Doug Young 6 Jun 5 Daniel A. Szpiro Re: Doug Young 7 Jun 5 Elie Charest Re: Doug Young Any idea? I played with the "view header" thing in the config menu, but without success. Thanks! -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - Patrick Dery (PDERY@ECN.ULAVAL.CA), Etudiant Gradue - = CREFA, Departement d'Economique, Universite Laval = - " Celui qui garoche de la boue perd du terrain. " - =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21789; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:57:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04740; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:52:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04734; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:52:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS3o4-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: williame@cs.unca.edu (Earl Williams) Subject: pgp and pine Date: 7 Jun 1996 14:42:00 GMT Message-Id: <4p9f3o$lno@balsam.unca.edu> I have browsed this newsgroups backlogs and searched for a way to easily incorporate pgp into pine via the send filters, but I haven't seen an easy way. Could someone post the best way to do this? Thanx Earl --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Earl Williams | Senior Master Control Operator williame@cs.unca.edu | Steelcase Teleconference Center RBH129 704.251.6333 (voice) | University of North Carolina at Asheville 704.251.6238 (fax) | Asheville, NC 28804-3299 http://www.unca.edu/~williame/ | http://www.unca.edu/unca_stc/ finger williame@cs.unca.edu for pgp public key --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21944; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:59:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21080; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:52:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21074; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:52:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS3ko-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Masako Kanazawa Subject: HOLA! Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:49:03 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hola! I have recently subscribed to this newsgroup. I have a friend in Mexico and she needs information about the former Mexican general brigadier, Jose Francisco Gallardo Rodriguez who is now inprisoned in Mexico D.F. Can anybody tell me how I get information about him??? MAKO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24414; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:45:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06345; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:42:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06337; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:42:48 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA06578; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:46:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:46:47 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: PCPine 3.93 / Conversion from Ultrix PINE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an easy way to transfer one's *IX* Pine393 mail folders for use with PCPine3.93? I ftp'd several folders to my PC mail directory. PCPine3.93 detects the folders but marks them as being READONLY -- hence no maintenance on the PC folder is allowed. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24870; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:54:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22831; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:50:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from WHEAT.TC.CORNELL.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22825; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:50:53 -0700 Received: from FIG.TC.CORNELL.EDU by wheat.tc.cornell.edu with SMTP id AA02360 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:49:55 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Hrishikesh Dixit X-Sender: hrishi@fig.tc.cornell.edu To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending mail remotely... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes- it is immediately after I do ^X - there is a funny beep, and it simply says "Error sending". I CAN send mail directly from the command line so I dont think its an SMTP server problem... Thanks. ..Hrishi On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > There is no way of us knowing until you share the exact wording of the > error message with us (and when it occurs: immediately you type ^X? > returned to you as an e-mail a few minutes after you sent your message?) > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Hrishikesh Dixit wrote: > > > Hi all... > > > > I have a problem sending mail remotely using Pine- if i am rlogged in to > > my terminal and try sending mail thru Pine, I get an erro. can do > > everything else- read mail, file it, etc... > > Is this a Pine problem or a configuration problem or a system problem ? > > > > I'm using Pine-3.93, btw. > > > > Thanks ! > > > > ..Hrishi > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Hrishikesh Dixit H: 607-277-8581 > > Xerox Design Research Institute O: 607-254-8653 > > Cornell University E-mail: hrishi@dri.cornell.edu > > Ithaca, NY 14853 URL: http://dri.cornell.edu/pub/hrishi/ > > > > --- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Hrishikesh Dixit e-mail : hrishi@dri.cornell.edu Add: Xerox D.R.I Ph (work): (607) 254-8653 502 Rhodes Hall Ph (home): (607) 277-8581 Cornell University Fax : (607) 254-4742 Ithaca, NY 14853 URL : http://dri.cornell.edu/pub/hrishi/ -- Who is General Failure and why is he reading my disk ? -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25082; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:59:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22979; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:56:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shooter.bluemarble.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22973; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:56:49 -0700 Received: from localhost (edit@localhost) by shooter.bluemarble.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA05560 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:56:52 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:56:52 -0500 (EST) From: Paul E Kayak Reply-To: Paul E Kayak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: nested folders in a mail program? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For those of us who keep large amounts of correspondence - who could use nested (contained-in-more-contained...) folders: any hope soon? Or is it to extract and take it off PINE? /But Emacs perhaps.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25159; Fri, 7 Jun 96 10:00:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06756; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:57:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-17-10.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06746; Fri, 7 Jun 96 09:57:11 -0700 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 8 Jun 96 01:00:43 +0800 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:55:28 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Masako Kanazawa Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOLA! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Masako Kanazawa wrote: > Hola! I have recently subscribed to this newsgroup. I have a friend in > Mexico and she needs information about the former Mexican general > brigadier, Jose Francisco Gallardo Rodriguez who is now inprisoned in > Mexico D.F. Can anybody tell me how I get information about him??? Yes, he is a frequent user of pine. His phone number is +52-988-555-5498. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28395; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:00:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24866; Fri, 7 Jun 96 10:55:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shooter.bluemarble.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24854; Fri, 7 Jun 96 10:55:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (edit@localhost) by shooter.bluemarble.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA08698 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:55:16 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:55:16 -0500 (EST) From: Paul E Kayak To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: View-header in config menu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where is the view-header option in config menu? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01890; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10098; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10092; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48:45 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18127; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48:44 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19238; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48:43 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:48:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Paul E Kayak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: nested folders in a mail program? (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Definitely planned... maybe even in the next major release (4.0x) In the mean time you can create folder collections that are actually subdirectories of your main collection --not ideal, but perhaps useful in the interim. -teg On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > For those of us who keep large amounts of correspondence - who could > use nested (contained-in-more-contained...) folders: any hope soon? > > Or is it to extract and take it off PINE? /But Emacs perhaps.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02137; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:55:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26697; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26689; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS6a7-00038VC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zosma@lightlink.com (G. V. Palazzolo) Subject: newbie question about sending attachments Date: 6 Jun 1996 03:23:03 GMT Message-Id: I want to send an attachmet along with a message on PINE. How do I do this. I could not find an answer on the online help. gvp -- Knowledge is power. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02172; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:55:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26685; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26679; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS6a7-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: LIFE IS LIKE A BOX OF CHOCLATE Subject: Re: Auto-Forwarding??? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:18:05 +0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: in order to forward mail to new address you have to creat ".forward" file in your root directory . write pico .forward after that write following lines in that file for example you want to forward me you all mail so you includea line like. advise05@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr hope you will get right result. On Thu, 30 May 1996, Vandan Parikh wrote: > > Is there any way to make my account automatically forward all > incomming mail to a new e-mail address. If so please notify me as soon > as possible. Thanks, > Van Parikh > > IMPORTANT: please E-mail me at > > Vandan Parikh-Junior @ *University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign* > > WWW: http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~v-parikh/myhomepage.html > > > +------------------------------------------------------------------+ / \ "Trying to maintain a good friendship with more people" / \ / \ :) :):(: (: / \ / + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - /- - - + / /Rashid Manzoor Khan e-mail:[advise05@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr/ / / /Electrical Engineering e103263@narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr]/ / / / Middle East Technical University,Ankara Turkey / / +------------------------------------------------------------------+ / \ / Home Page:[http://www.geocities.com/colosseum/4016 \ / \ / http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/4920] \ / +------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02195; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:56:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10233; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10227; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:52:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS6a7-00038UC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: Displaying complete header? Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:36:21 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4oe0n1$8lf$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <4p099s$7r@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4p099s$7r@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> I may be wrong but it could be something with your system. I am using pine 3.91 to read this group and when I display the full header the path is as follows for this group of messages: Path: fnnews.fnal.gov!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.inte rnetmci.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!not-for-mail so maybe you can look at the path your system gives for the same messages. I hope this helped at least a little. On 4 Jun 1996, Lisa S Williams wrote: > S. Lanyon (103123.512@CompuServe.COM) wrote: > : When reading messages in Pine, is there a way to display the > : complete header (i.e. path, etc.)? I've looked through some FAQs > : and help files but I haven't managed to find an answer, so any > : help here would be appreciated. > > > Whoa, guys, I've seen various answers here, and I think maybe S. Lanyon > may be being misread, not careless. I'm here for what is likely the same > question. I *HAVE* enabled full headers through Configuration. My problem > is that "full headers" doesn't include the *complete* path of a received > message. What I'm needing right now is the info on the full path that the > message followed. I know that some people's mail programs have that info, > plus the time that the mail was actually sent, not just the time it was > received at my local host. I'm running Pine 3.91. Someone has indicated > to me that perhaps this feature is available on 3.93 and that I'd have to > try to exit Pine and edit my mail folder to get the *complete* header > info in 3.91. Unfortunately, I know how to edit mail files outside of > pine, but I don't know what I'd have to do to a Mail folder to get that > info. For all I know, this may even be a problem related to the system > here at my institution--perhaps they have set it up so as not to display > all the info for an incoming message if full header mode--just the local > machine info. > > I've read helpfiles and archives and updates and tried to find this info > in a FAQ, and I'm stymied. Anybody got an answer? > > --Bou > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02873; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:06:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26965; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26959; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:01:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15616; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:00:33 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:00:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Timothy Chan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE : addressbook In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Timothy Chan wrote: > In the version of PINE which the admin has recently installed, a feature > is missing which I found really useful in the previous version. When you > have a "mailing list" in the address book, and you want to add only ONE of > the addresses in the list to a Cc: you cannot. That is a bug which will be fixed in version 3.94. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03048; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:10:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10574; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:05:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10565; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:05:10 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA15818; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:09:11 -0500 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:09:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Information List Subject: PC Pine Windows Limitations Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been testing PCPine for Windows today. I am trying to determine the limitations. My platform is a 486/33 with 8MB memory -- plenty of disk space available. The system appears to hang when I have a large INBOX. My first tests were 226 messages - 3.5MB INBOX. My last test was over two hundred mail messages but the INBOX size was 677K. Any suggestions? More memory?? Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03610; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:21:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10902; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:17:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10895; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:17:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS6yD-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Waqar Asim Subject: Offline pcpine? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 05:55:55 GMT Does anyone know of a modification of pine which allows offline reading/writing? Also if my company wanted to give pine this capability, where would we hire a freelance programmer capable of this ? Thank You Asim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04031; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:30:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11232; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:27:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from norway-f.it.earthlink.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11226; Fri, 7 Jun 96 12:27:13 -0700 Received: from eberto (max2-gg-ca-23.earthlink.net [206.149.204.123]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA00729 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:24:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <31B88173.634B@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 12:22:27 -0700 From: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Organization: Megasys, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Pine users Subject: Printer Selection on pine3.92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I have many printers at my location. Is there a way to make pine ask for a printer name instead of scrolling through all of the defined printers? I tried to write a shell script that would prompt for the printer name, but I can't get it to work. Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Eberto From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07558; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29599; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:37:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29593; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:37:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS8E1-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xxfdh@omega.uta.edu (Mr. Dustin Fu) Subject: Re: How to user header "Bcc:", Help !!!!!! Date: 7 Jun 1996 16:40:05 GMT Message-Id: <4p9m16$qrr@utaipx02.uta.edu> References: <4p6076$7pp@ctylnk.cityu.edu.hk> Stephen Fu (cswkfu@cityu.edu.hk) wrote: : Hi, : : As my boss want to get a copy of everybody's email and save it for review (for : : security reason), what is needed to change in the sendmail.cf file. I know : that there is a 'Bcc'. But How to use it and what is the ?flag? I should use ? If you can get your hands on a book from O'Rielly & Associates, the title called 'sendmail' (ISBN 1-56592-056-2). It has detail information regarding how to configure sendmail. : Thanks. : : Stephen : e-mail: cswkfu@cityu.edu.hk -- Dustin Fu Software Systems Specialist Academic Computing Services University of Texas at Arlington xxfdh@omega.uta.edu 817-272-2208 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08137; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:54:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13490; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:48:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13484; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:48:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17274; Fri, 7 Jun 96 13:47:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:47:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "Eberto de Armas, Jr." Cc: Pine users Subject: Re: Printer Selection on pine3.92 In-Reply-To: <31B88173.634B@earthlink.net> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Eberto de Armas, Jr. wrote: > Hi all! > > I have many printers at my location. Is there a way to make pine ask for > a printer name instead of scrolling through all of the defined printers? There is a pine feature called "print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt" which you should turn on. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08865; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:10:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14015; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14009; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:07:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS8gE-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whitus@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (Bobby R. Whitus) Subject: Spell checker for 32 bit Winsock pine request Date: 7 Jun 1996 17:02:39 GMT Message-Id: <4p9nbf$cqi@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Are any spell checkers available for the 32 bit version of WinSock PC-Pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09387; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14418; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:25:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14412; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:25:17 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09219; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:25:16 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20389; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:25:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:25:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Waqar Asim Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Offline pcpine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Asim, Offline operation (and later, disconnected operation as well) is definitely planned, and is a high priority for us. It won't be in the first 4.0x release, but I hope one soon after that. -teg On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Waqar Asim wrote: > Does anyone know of a modification of pine which allows offline > reading/writing? > > Also if my company wanted to give pine this capability, where would > we hire a freelance programmer capable of this ? > > Thank You > > Asim > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10339; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:50:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01362; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:47:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01356; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:47:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS9Mz-00038UC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Why does pine use Q-P internally? Date: 6 Jun 1996 05:21:00 GMT Message-Id: <4p5prs$nb9@due.unit.no> References: In article , Terry Gray wrote: >Orjan, >While I agree with Mark that an MUA shouldn't modify the CTE of messages >in incoming mailboxes, I'd like to add a comment regarding outgoing It occured to me that there are some cases where decoding might be dangerous, like "=46rom ". I still think it is ugly. Imagine how much simpler all this would be if files had been based on recursive lists of bytes rather than a flat string where division markers cannot be reliably distinguished from the text itself. >(sent-mail) folders: We've found that it's *really* handy to have in >the sent-mail folder an exact copy of the message as given to the MTA. > >I believe that if you use a modern sendmail and a recent Pine with >8BITMIME negotiation enabled, you will have what you want in your >sent-mail folder. Possibly. At the moment my situation is that I have Pine 3.93 on all my accounts except the one with 8BITMIME sendmail, so I haven't tested that yet. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10484; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:54:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15103; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:52:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15097; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:52:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uS9Qy-00038UC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) Subject: Saving e-mail Date: 7 Jun 1996 18:18:08 GMT Message-Id: <4p9rp0$cli@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Can somone tell me if there is an easier way to save e-mail messages so I can download them to my computer. I am just using a regular Unix account, text-based. In Pine, I can press E to export 1 message into my directory for later downloading. But I have to type the filename each time. It is a lot of work to do that for 10 or 20 messages. Is there anyway I can save a whole bunch of messages? Just tag off whichever ones I want to save and use one command to save them all? Must be some way. - Adam From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18263; Fri, 7 Jun 96 18:53:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19754; Fri, 7 Jun 96 18:50:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spidergram.ccs.unr.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19748; Fri, 7 Jun 96 18:50:51 -0700 Received: from equinox.unr.edu by spidergram.ccs.unr.edu (8.6.13/1.34) id SAA16214; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:48:37 -0700 Received: by equinox.unr.edu (8.6.13/1.34) id SAA04419; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:50:32 -0700 From: malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Message-Id: <199606080150.SAA04419@equinox.unr.edu> Subject: Re: any way to use my addressbook on my IMAPd server from remote? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:50:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: malc@unr.edu In-Reply-To: from "Terry Gray" at Apr 13, 96 04:42:47 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1180 I would like to suggest a possible workaround for the remote addressbook issue, which is a big issue at our site as well: What about changing the addressbook format to that of a standard mail folder with dummy headers at the top, then standard addressbook format below? This would permit remote addressbooks using the folder operations that IMAP already knows about, without having to wait for someone to finish implementing an all-new protocol. PINE could be programmed to: 1. Keep that folder in the usual folder-collections directory, i.e., mail/[], or even a local folder if the user preferred 2. Not show that folder in the list of available folders, since it is a "special" folder 3. Prohibit the user from creating his/her own folder called "addrbook" (though few users would be likely to do this) The first time such a version of PINE were run, it would copy any existing addressbook data to the new addrbook folder. Thoughts? I might be willing to volunteer for this programming task if the CAC guys are interested, and if they think it will be a while until the newer remote-addressbook-capable protocol(s) and associated version(s) of PINE appear. Malcolm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19266; Fri, 7 Jun 96 20:00:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06836; Fri, 7 Jun 96 19:55:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06830; Fri, 7 Jun 96 19:55:04 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15197; Fri, 7 Jun 96 19:55:03 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22954; Fri, 7 Jun 96 19:55:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Malcolm L. Carlock" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: any way to use my addressbook on my IMAPd server from remote? In-Reply-To: <199606080150.SAA04419@equinox.unr.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Malcolm, On more than one occasion, we have discussed the possibility of using IMAP or FTP to access a remote addressbook, as an interim solution until ACAP is ready for prime-time. Indeed, the UW IMAP server can already present an arbitrary file as a MIME attachment to a pseudo-message... The thing that has usually quenched that idea is the realization that we wouldn't have a good way to provide full read-write access with appropriate safeguards against multiple sessions smashing addrbk data. Also we still hold the view that the "correct" (ACAP) solution is just around the corner... :) We've definitely learned that people get cranky if they don't have write-access to their address book: in a recent PC-Pine version we had a bug that made addressbooks accessed via a remote filesystem protocol read-only, and campers were not happy... One possibility for an interim solution in the *Unix* Pine context where NFS access is not available would be to put a wrapper around Pine that did an rcp of the addressbook. For PC-Pine users, we have some folks using SMB (the Microsoft remote file access protocol) to get at address books stored on Unix servers, but not everyone can use that solution. -teg On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Malcolm L. Carlock wrote: > I would like to suggest a possible workaround for the remote addressbook > issue, which is a big issue at our site as well: > > What about changing the addressbook format to that of a standard mail > folder with dummy headers at the top, then standard addressbook format > below? This would permit remote addressbooks using the folder operations > that IMAP already knows about, without having to wait for someone to > finish implementing an all-new protocol. > > PINE could be programmed to: > > 1. Keep that folder in the usual folder-collections directory, i.e., > mail/[], or even a local folder if the user preferred > > 2. Not show that folder in the list of available folders, since it > is a "special" folder > > 3. Prohibit the user from creating his/her own folder called "addrbook" > (though few users would be likely to do this) > > The first time such a version of PINE were run, it would copy any > existing addressbook data to the new addrbook folder. > > Thoughts? I might be willing to volunteer for this programming task > if the CAC guys are interested, and if they think it will be a while until > the newer remote-addressbook-capable protocol(s) and associated version(s) > of PINE appear. > > Malcolm > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19868; Fri, 7 Jun 96 20:30:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20854; Fri, 7 Jun 96 20:27:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20842; Fri, 7 Jun 96 20:26:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSEfM-00038TC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 20:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) Subject: Re: Installing 3.93 for Linux Date: 8 Jun 1996 02:49:02 GMT Message-Id: <4papmu$14f@goodnews.voicenet.com> References: <31B4B151.68FC@cvn.com> In article in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) wrote: : On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Steve Cabito wrote: : > I grabbed 3.93 (pine-bin.linux) and : > couldn't help noticing that it's a 3.8MB executable. : it could very well just be a pine : binary with some debug symbol leftovers. Try to run "strip" on it and see : if it shrinks. Over here, this will reduce the size of the binary to 1.6Mb. I started out with a pine 3.93 binary that was about 3.8M and it stripped down just as you describe. Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill Duetschler) "Mulder, this is hokier than the one they aired on the Fox network." --Agt. Dana Scully, "Nisei" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21026; Fri, 7 Jun 96 21:51:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08069; Fri, 7 Jun 96 21:47:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08063; Fri, 7 Jun 96 21:47:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSFvC-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Yeakel Subject: Possible to upload and use downloaded pine file? Date: 8 Jun 1996 03:54:35 GMT Message-Id: <4pathr$8ht@samba.rahul.net> I'm trying without success to upload a previously downloaded pine message file and pine only shows it as a large text file, not as a folder containing individual messages. Is there a way to upload and reuse a pine file? Or is there an offline reader I can use to use the folder on my Mac? Thanks, Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21743; Fri, 7 Jun 96 22:34:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22273; Fri, 7 Jun 96 22:32:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22267; Fri, 7 Jun 96 22:32:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSGbX-00038DC; Fri, 7 Jun 96 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: invisible list Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:54:30 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is another question that I think is not possible but, I gotta ask. Is there a way, that when you receive a message from a person who is sending a message to a distribution list, so that you won't have to see all 100 and some other names that the message was sent to? Once again, thanks in advance. Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23547; Sat, 8 Jun 96 00:24:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09949; Sat, 8 Jun 96 00:22:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09929; Sat, 8 Jun 96 00:22:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSIKU-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 00:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andreas Muck Subject: Re: Installing 3.93 for Linux Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 23:16:47 +0200 Message-Id: <31B5F93F.23BC144D@rpkhp9.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <31B4B151.68FC@cvn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve Cabito wrote: > > I'd like to upgrade 3.90, so I grabbed 3.93 (pine-bin.linux) and > couldn't help noticing that it's a 3.8MB executable. I'm not going to > fire up this program without knowing what it's going to do. Is it a > self-install? Anyone know? (I'm using Linux 1.2.13.) No, it is the actual program. $ ll `which pine` -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3868281 Apr 21 02:20 /usr/bin/pine* -- Hard work may not kill you, but why take chances? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25345; Sat, 8 Jun 96 01:34:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24344; Sat, 8 Jun 96 01:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24338; Sat, 8 Jun 96 01:32:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSJOW-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cswkfu@cityu.edu.hk (Stephen Fu) Subject: How to user header "Bcc:", Help !!!!!! Date: Thu, 06 Jun 96 07:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <4p6076$7pp@ctylnk.cityu.edu.hk> Hi, As my boss want to get a copy of everybody's email and save it for review (for security reason), what is needed to change in the sendmail.cf file. I know that there is a 'Bcc'. But How to use it and what is the ?flag? I should use ? Thanks. Stephen e-mail: cswkfu@cityu.edu.hk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28939; Sat, 8 Jun 96 04:49:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12849; Sat, 8 Jun 96 04:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12843; Sat, 8 Jun 96 04:47:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSMTX-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 04:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Stillinger Subject: Newsreading with Pine Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 04:28:53 -0700 Message-Id: <31B6C0F5.32FF@qnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I would like to use pine as a news reader. News arives at ibbs from a UUCP link. How can I get pine to act as a news reader? I have played with the options and it still can't find the newsgroups. Any ideas? -- Jeff Stillinger http://red-agnes.la.ca.us/~js From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29343; Sat, 8 Jun 96 05:20:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13126; Sat, 8 Jun 96 05:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13120; Sat, 8 Jun 96 05:16:18 -0700 Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu (tcosta@leucs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.195.14]) by leucs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA04485; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:17:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Costa To: Greg Sullivan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reply to In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of headers is there any customization available for interpreting the incoming header? Specifically the "From: "? I have a problem on our internal SMTP gateway that it adds a line X-Status before the "From: " and pine is not able to read it so I get a message that says No Message Text in the index and No recipients to reply to when trying to reply. Any ideas? Thanks On 3 Jun 1996, Greg Sullivan wrote: > On 3 Jun 1996 07:57:20 -0700, S.A.C. wrote: > > >I have not been able to find a way to change my "reply to" address. If > >anyone knows how, I would appreciate your telling me. If there is > >currently no way to do that, I would recommend that that be a future > >addition to pine. I know of at least one person already who has had to > >stop using pine and start using emacs to compose his email because he was > >also unable to find a way to change the "reply to." > > Check out the `customized-hdrs' and `default-composer-hdrs' options > in the Pine Setup. Basically `customized-hdrs=Reply-to:you@here' will > change your default reply to address [replace you@here with the e-mail > address that you wish to use. > > > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Greg `SULLY' Sullivan | e-mail: gsully@osha.igs.net > | www: http://www.osha.igs.net/~gsully > ________________________________________________________________________ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00934; Sat, 8 Jun 96 07:23:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27777; Sat, 8 Jun 96 07:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27771; Sat, 8 Jun 96 07:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSOpL-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 07:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerjan@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: invisible list Date: 6 Jun 1996 04:59:58 GMT Message-Id: <4p5oke$n28@due.unit.no> References: In article , Beth Peterson wrote: >This is another question that I think is not possible but, I gotta ask. >Is there a way, that when you receive a message from a person who is >sending a message to a distribution list, so that you won't have to see >all 100 and some other names that the message was sent to? I believe this must be fixed on the sending side. If the sender is using Pine 3.92 or later, ask him/her to put the addresses in the Lcc: field rather than the To: or Cc: field. If the sender is using Pine 3.91 or earlier, or another mail program, ask him/her to put the addresses in the Bcc: field, _and_ put something like this in the To: field: To: The Chosen Few : ; (The : ; are important.) It may be that whoever is sending to you is using the second method, but without the second step. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02656; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:30:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15619; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15613; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:28:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSQqV-00038VC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard X. Tang" Subject: change the outgoing mail address Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:14:07 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a accout with a login xtang, but I set up an alias called rxtang, So incoming mail addressed to rxtang works fine, but I also want outgoing mail to be addressed as From: rxtang as oppsed to From: xtang, which is the default. I know I can do this if I write raw smtp commands, but can I set it up so that elm or pine does it?? Thanks, -Richard $$$$$$$$$$)([$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-->>>------------------------------------\!* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02789; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:34:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29237; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:33:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29231; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:33:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSQsS-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kunyan Liu Subject: Re: invisible list Message-Id: <1996Jun6.134846.120869@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 6 Jun 96 13:48:46 CDT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I got the same problem here, please let me know if you come up with some kind of solution. Thank you. Kunyan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03133; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:55:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15887; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:53:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15881; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:53:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSRD8-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MAILER-DAEMON@mx2.cac.washington.edu (Mary Winters-Meyer) Subject: printing and other questions Date: 6 Jun 1996 21:55:06 GMT Message-Id: <4p7k3q$k1m@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Well, this has probably been answered before, but I hope someone will be kind enough to answer it again for me. Feel free to e-mail replies if it's been done to death in the newsgroup! 1) We just set up all of our staff with unix accounts for e-mail, using Pine, of course. In the course of learning as much as possible about Pine, I failed to consider printing, since I don't normally print me mail. When I try to use the prYnt command, it seems to print, but I don't know where. We're accessing the unix accounts via a telnet session over the internet. The only thing I can think is that it is printing at the server site. So the question is how to get it to print locally? 2) This is more minor, but is there a way to tell Pine not to save a particular out-going message in the sent-mail folder when you send a message? Also, is there a way to disable the sent-mail saving completely? Thanks in advance for any and all help! Mary *********************************************** Mary Winters-Meyer | mjwmeyer@uiuc.edu University of Illinois | Management Methods Analyst Urbana - Champaign | Department of Student Financial Aid From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03312; Sat, 8 Jun 96 10:04:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29565; Sat, 8 Jun 96 10:02:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [157.253.124.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29559; Sat, 8 Jun 96 10:02:22 -0700 Received: (from amunoz@localhost) by neptuno.ujavcali.edu.co (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA02047; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 12:05:25 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 12:05:25 -0500 (GMT-0500) From: Ana Maria Munoz To: pineinfo uw Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-40041860-1143846163-834253525=:1992" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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Flavell" Subject: Re: PINE for OpenVMS In-Reply-To: <31B4E096.4D23@imt.fzk.d400.de> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <31B4E096.4D23@imt.fzk.d400.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:33:07 GMT On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Ulrich Klein wrote: > Is there anywhere a working PINE for VMS version available? I got the > version 3.91 but this distribution only builds PICO but for the C-Client > and PINE some files are missing. I assume you are speaking about Yehavi's free port from HUJI. Take a look at my own experiences/notes at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html and see whether they help you with your problems building the software in your environment. N.B I am no expert in this - I worked on it just far enough to be able to use PINE as a transition aid in our VMS environment. best regards From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05729; Sat, 8 Jun 96 12:14:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17565; Sat, 8 Jun 96 12:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bncc1.incirlik.af.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17559; Sat, 8 Jun 96 12:12:46 -0700 Received: by bncc1.incirlik.af.mil (1.37.109.15/16.2) id AA241034732; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:12:12 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:12:12 +0200 (EET) From: TSgt John Webster 39CS/SCUCN To: pine-info Subject: Global Addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to have a global style addressbook containing all email user addresses on a Unix system appear when a user hits ^T on the "To" line when composing a message? A modified /etc/passwd list would be a start. Any idea's??? TSgt John Webster NCOIC, Network Management 39th Communications Squadron Incirlik AB, Turkey Phone: 011-90-332-316-8549 email: websterj@bncc1.incirlik.af.mil - or - websterj@39cs.incirlik.af.mil From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07706; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:35:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18995; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:34:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18989; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:33:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSVbn-00038VC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cjackson@ns.monroe.lib.in.us (Christopher Jackson) Subject: 3.93 messing with EWAN Date: 6 Jun 1996 22:55:09 GMT Message-Id: <4p7nkd$m1f@news.hoosier.net> After exiting from newly installed 3.93, my telnet application EWAN (for Windows 3.1) doesn't display the last line of text from the shell. This never happened with 3.91. I don't see anything in the setup of either Pine or Ewan that could prevent this. Anybody got any ideas? Chris Jackson cjackson@monroe.lib.in.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07750; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:37:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18985; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:33:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dogbert.ipa.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18978; Sat, 8 Jun 96 14:33:36 -0700 Received: from ipa-171-26.ipa.net (ipa-171-26.ipa.net [205.218.171.26]) by dogbert.ipa.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA13657 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 16:33:28 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199606082133.QAA13657@dogbert.ipa.net> From: Josh Date: Sat, 08 Jun 96 15:59:20 -700 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla/1.0N (Windows) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08549; Sat, 8 Jun 96 15:46:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03465; Sat, 8 Jun 96 15:44:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03459; Sat, 8 Jun 96 15:44:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSWgB-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: changing a folder's name Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > Can a folder's name be changed? Or alternatively, is there a way to move > a *set* of mssgs from one folder to another? > > For any help, thanks in advance. Sure. I've changed the name of a folder several times, at least under different versions of Un*x Pine. Just remember that to the Un*x file system, a Pine folder is merely any other file with an internal structure that means something to the application (Pine) that maintains it. If you try to _edit_ a Pine folder you could mess something up, but merely renaming it doesn't seem to hurt anything. (At least, it hasn't for me.) Simply quit completely from Pine. From the shell prompt (assuming you are using Un*x Pine), cd to the subdirectory in which Pine stores its folders. (Again, I am assuming that it is a local collection.) In my case it is just $HOME/mail. Just rename it what you want. When you fire up Pine again, it should show up in the folder list under its new name. I did it just the other evening. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10422; Sat, 8 Jun 96 18:06:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21052; Sat, 8 Jun 96 18:04:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21046; Sat, 8 Jun 96 18:04:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSYtV-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 18:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: nested folders in a mail program? (fwd) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:56:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We plan to implement nested folders in Pine 4.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > From: Paul E Kayak > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: nested folders in a mail program? (fwd) > Date: 7 Jun 1996 10:03:40 -0700 > Organization: PSGnet mail to news gate > Sender: nobody@psg.com > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.psg.com > X-M2n: psg.com > > For those of us who keep large amounts of correspondence - who could > use nested (contained-in-more-contained...) folders: any hope soon? > > Or is it to extract and take it off PINE? /But Emacs perhaps.... > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14411; Sat, 8 Jun 96 23:47:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24458; Sat, 8 Jun 96 23:45:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24449; Sat, 8 Jun 96 23:44:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSeAU-00038DC; Sat, 8 Jun 96 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chad simmons Subject: 2 Pop servers Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:15:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two pop servers one for unix mail(unix.collider.com) and one for bbs mail(bbs.collider.com) is there a way I can make pine poll both servers? Thanks, Chad Simmons P.s. A email response would be appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16454; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:31:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09417; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:30:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09411; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:30:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSfoC-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) Subject: How to import a list into addressbook Date: 9 Jun 1996 03:13:12 GMT Message-Id: <4pdfg8$g7n@news.ios.com> In 3.91, when trying to add entries to a list, I cannot see how a file such as: john@aol.com, mary@aol.com, bob@aol.com ...can be imported into the list. When I try the add-to-list function, it seems to only want to add a single address at a time. Am I correct? Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16802; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25708; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:40:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25702; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:40:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSfyf-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pat Schmidt Subject: mail filters for folders Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:01:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, If there is an answer to my question on a FAQ somewhere, please point me to it. I wish to be able to filter incoming mail into pre-chosen folders. I seem to remember (many months ago, the last time I was on this list) that pine needed some additional software in order to be able to do this. Thank you very much for you help. ______________________________________________________________________ Patrick J. Schmidt (510)-253-2272 Information Services pschmidt@jfku.edu John F. Kennedy University 12 Altarinda Road, Orinda, CA 94563 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17216; Sun, 9 Jun 96 02:11:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09863; Sun, 9 Jun 96 02:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09857; Sun, 9 Jun 96 02:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSgSW-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 02:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bschlank@pacificnet.net Subject: Using .forward at filtering Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 01:02:36 GMT Message-Id: <4p80h9$jhr@news2.cais.com> My company has an account with an ISP (BEST.COM) and it is set up so that all the domain email is sent to one POP account. You can send messages to anyname@mydomain.com and they are all sent to that one pop account. This is kind of neat because I can get all the mail for the office at once without having to have a dedicated server or 50 pop accounts at my ISP! Problems arise when people travel across the country and still want to get their theirname@mydomain.com email forwarded to their compuserve/aol/prodigy/whatever email. A simple .forward file will not suffice because it will forward EVERYBODY'S email to that one person. Q: Is there a way to set up a .forward file to forward mail to individual boxes based on the name in the TO: field? My server is using PINE 3.93, ELM 2.4, mailx, procmail... Any responses would be appreciated! You can send them to me directly at bschlank@pacificnet.net or here. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19757; Sun, 9 Jun 96 04:47:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27559; Sun, 9 Jun 96 04:45:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27553; Sun, 9 Jun 96 04:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSivb-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 04:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vladimir@nunki.usc.edu (Vladimir V. Piterbarg) Subject: Re: How to import a list into addressbook Date: 8 Jun 1996 22:06:25 -0700 Message-Id: <4pdm4h$b8s@nunki.usc.edu> References: <4pdfg8$g7n@news.ios.com> wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) writes: >In 3.91, when trying to add entries to a list, I cannot see how a file >such as: >john@aol.com, >mary@aol.com, >bob@aol.com >...can be imported into the list. When I try the add-to-list function, >it seems to only want to add a single address at a time. Am I correct? I once had a similar problem. What I did is wrote the list directly into the addressbook. If you haven't changed the name, it is called .addressbook. It is just a plain text file, so you can edit it (with little care to preserve the structure). Start creating list in pine, add 2 or three addresses, then exit pine and start pico on .addressbook (or whatever you addresbook is called). Find the place where you list starts, and include (^R in pico) your separate file with the list you want in there. Pay special attention to separators. Good luck -Vladimir PS You may want to save a copy of .addressbook before messing with it, just in case. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20948; Sun, 9 Jun 96 06:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12245; Sun, 9 Jun 96 06:00:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12239; Sun, 9 Jun 96 06:00:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSk35-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 05:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Henning Subject: Re: PCPine32 3.93/Win3.11 - Can't delete mail/create olders Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:02:26 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hi ! Maybe I can solve my problem by converting the UNIX-like folkders to Pine-folders. How can I do this ? What's the difference between both formats ? Thx in Advance, - Mark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23221; Sun, 9 Jun 96 08:52:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29917; Sun, 9 Jun 96 08:50:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29911; Sun, 9 Jun 96 08:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSmhF-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ezra Van Everbroeck Subject: Re: Installing 3.93 for Linux Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 19:03:24 +0200 Message-Id: References: <31B4B151.68FC@cvn.com> <4papmu$14f@goodnews.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4papmu$14f@goodnews.voicenet.com> On 8 Jun 1996, Bill D wrote: > : On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Steve Cabito wrote: > > : it could very well just be a pine binary with some debug symbol > : leftovers. Try to run "strip" on it and see if it shrinks. Over here, > : this will reduce the size of the binary to 1.6Mb. > > I started out with a pine 3.93 binary that was about 3.8M and it > stripped down just as you describe. You can get even smaller binaries by compiling the source yourself: | onyx:/usr/local/bin$uname -a | Linux onyx 1.2.13 #23 Sun Mar 24 20:49:45 GMT+0100 1996 i586 | | onyx:/usr/local/bin$l pine | -rwxr-xr-x 1 ezra admin 1159172 Apr 13 12:49 pine* >From pine/makefile.lnx : | OPTIMIZE= -O2 -s | PROFILE= # -pg | DEBUG= #-g -DDEBUG Not that it matters that much any more with the current prices of hard disks. Cheers, Ezra Ezra Van Everbroeck - - Centre for Computational Linguistics - K.U.Leuven - - - - - - - - - - -- - Web: http://onyx.arts.kuleuven.ac.be/~ezra - - 1972 - - Mbuji-Mayi - - Email: ezra@ccl.kuleuven.ac.be - - - Have e-life. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24681; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:53:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00826; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:51:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00820; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:51:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSnhR-00038TC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jacques Talbot Subject: by-nick-of-from behavior is strange in 3.93 Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 09:41:42 +0200 Message-Id: <31B53A36.FF6@frec.bull.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The behavior of the by-nick-of-from option in the saved-msg-name-rule in the config menu of pine 3.93 is not what I would expect: if the from: field is in the .addressbook, pine saves to nickname: OK if the from: field is not in the .addressbook, pine saves in the default "saved-messages" folder, while I would expect it to save to name derived from the by-from option. Looks more intuitive Somehow the option should be named: by-nick-of-from-then-from Before submitting a Bug report, I would like to be sure I am not missing something. Thanks for your collective help -- Jacques Talbot Bull 1 rue de Provence BP208 38432 Echirolles CEDEX France Email:J.Talbot@frec.bull.fr DOAS: /BULL/FRECX/TALBOT J. Phone: +33 7629 7519 FAX: +33 7629 7089 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24706; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:53:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14791; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:50:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14785; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:50:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSnh7-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Schleichert Subject: Special ASCII characters Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:35:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT This is a question about Pine 3.93 (16-bit) under Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and MS TCP. Every time I enter one of the following characters @ [ ] { } | ~ ² ³ Pine switches the space key to function as "jump to beginning of next word." I had the same problem with Pine 3.91. What those characters have in common is that, to use them on a German keyboard, you have to press the right Alt key when typing the actual character. Any comments? Btw, the space bar can be switched back to normal functioning by typing about any ctrl-character combination. - Hans Schleichert -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Schleichert Institut fuer Medizinische Psychologie und Verhaltensneurobiologie (Institute of Medical Psychology and Behavioural Neurobiology) Eberhard-Karls-University Gartenstrasse 29 D-72074 Tuebingen, Germany Voice/modem (+49-7071) 29-5997 <29-75997 effective 30 June 1996> Fax (+49-7071) 29-5956 Internet CompuServe [100031,775] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26345; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:24:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15811; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15805; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:21:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSp2a-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthies@rzserv2.FH-Lueneburg.de (Ralf Matthies) Subject: Q: forward mail without quotes ? Date: 9 Jun 1996 14:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <4peoj1$4i1@next_1.fh-lueneburg.de> Hi, i have to maintain a mailinglist in the near future (with some moderated lists). The moderator of the list has to forward/bounce the approved messages back to the list. How can i resend the message to the list without leading quotes (">") ? Is this possible in UNIX-Pine ? So short, (R)alf Matthies Fachhochschule Nordostniedersachsen, Fachbereich Wirtschaft, Lueneburg, Germany PS: I'm using Pine 3.92 on UNIX (AIX 4.1 / RS/6000) -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26911; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16240; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:01:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16234; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:01:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSpgx-00038TC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: frnkzk@musenet.org (Kevin Kane) Subject: Suppressing the From line Date: 07 Jun 1996 17:31:09 -0400 Message-Id: Is there a way to make Pine _not_ add the From: line? The sendmail program does this automatically if one does not already exist with the appropriate name, hostname, etc., and I'd prefer it did, but I cannot find an option to do this. Is there one, and how do I use it? -- Kevin Kane (Frnkzk) / Rockville, Maryland, USA / frnkzk@musenet.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26940; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:03:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02205; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:01:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02199; Sun, 9 Jun 96 12:01:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSpgw-00038DC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: frnkzk@musenet.org (Kevin Kane) Subject: Strange headers Date: 07 Jun 1996 17:30:21 -0400 Message-Id: I am trying to compile Pine 3.93 for vax-ultrix to use the regular sendmail procedure for sending mail, instead of connecting to the SMTP server directly like it seems to want to do by default. However, when I provide a sendmail-path in the pine.conf, it adds this strange second 'To' header that says 'Undisclosed recipients' (or something along those lines), which causes sendmail to generate a MAILER-DAEMON error. The message gets sent, but each time this error results, which makes Pine think the message has not been sent and leaves the sender in the editor. Can anyone assist me with this problem? Many thanks. -- Kevin Kane (Frnkzk) / Rockville, Maryland, USA / frnkzk@musenet.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02837; Sun, 9 Jun 96 17:47:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05949; Sun, 9 Jun 96 17:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05943; Sun, 9 Jun 96 17:41:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSuyU-00038BC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to force folder to be in specific format? Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:50:47 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 4 Jun 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Is it possible to force a folder to be in a specific format? What I mean > is following: > > the Pine include long list of mailbox drivers for different formats. > No suppose I go in folder menu and create new folder. How can I say, > that I want this folder to be in, e.g., TENEX format instead of > mbox? > > The same question if I S)ave or Fcc message - is it possible to force > new folder to be in specific format? There is no way to do this in Pine, although it can be done in the low-level libraries used by Pine. Other than the INBOX, there is no general way to force alternate formats from Pine. We recommend that, if you want to change the default folder format, that you edit the c-client Makefile to set STDPROTO to something else (e.g. tenexproto) and then rebuild Pine. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06670; Sun, 9 Jun 96 21:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22486; Sun, 9 Jun 96 21:17:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22480; Sun, 9 Jun 96 21:16:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uSyOe-00038BC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 21:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meacham@teleport.com (Guy Meacham) Subject: Re: My biggest wish for Pine - can this be done? Date: 10 Jun 1996 04:01:43 GMT Message-Id: <4pg6n7$rpf@nadine.teleport.com> References: <31babcae.27779966@203.12.22.10> David S. Maddison (maddison@connexus.apana.org.au) wrote: : : : This is my situation: I have both a ppp and shell account with my ISP. : I use the PPP account for everything but mail, which I do using pine : on the shell account. The reason I do this is so that I can telnet in : from other locations if I am away from home and still have access to : all my old mail. It is important that I always have my mail collection : available wherever I log in from. : : I would also like to keep a complete record of my mail on my PC as : well as on my ISP shell account. Using PC pine could I use this as the : reader I use during my PPP session (at home) and make this so that any : new mail is copied to both the shell and the PC-Pine directory? : : This way I'll always have a copy of my mail when at home using : PC-Pine, whether I am logged on or not and I will also have a mail : record for when I am away and have to telnet into the shell. : : Regards, : : David Maddison : I have never used pc pine but what you want can be done very easily with pine on your shell and pegasus on your pc, both work very well together as pegasus gives you the option to remove mail from your shell after downloading or leave it there. I use pine 70% of the time but messages I want to keep or reply to offline I pick up with pegasus. Guy. -- >>>>>Guy & Jeanie Meacham...............http://www.teleport.com/~meacham<<<< >>>>>>Rippingale Nursery......................meacham@teleport.com<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>PO Box 84..............International Plant Propagators Society<<< >>>>>>>>Boring OR 97009....................."Quaerere et impertire"<<<<<<<<< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09915; Mon, 10 Jun 96 00:42:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24762; Mon, 10 Jun 96 00:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24756; Mon, 10 Jun 96 00:32:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT1Pg-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 00:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chad simmons Subject: Re: 2 Pop servers Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:55:38 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199606091334.IAA08561@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu> On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > [This message has also been posted.] > On Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:15:14 -0400, chad simmons wrote: > >I have two pop servers one for unix mail(unix.collider.com) and one for > >bbs mail(bbs.collider.com) is there a way I can make pine poll both servers? > > How about something like the following in your ~/.pinerc .... > incoming-folders=Unix-mail{unix.collider.com/pop3}, BBS-mail{bbs.collider.com/pop3} [This message has also been posted to comp.mail.pine] This works for anyone who is interested, but is their a way i can make it so it wont ask for my login name and password everytime I check for mail? Chad Simmons chads@unix.collider.com and chads@bbs.collider.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10868; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:24:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25348; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:22:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25342; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:22:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:19:33 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA04983; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:20:54 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:20:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: "G. V. Palazzolo" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: newbie question about sending attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sending an attachment using Pine... 1. Start your message (Compose, Reply, Forward, etc). 2. Put cursor on the "Attchmnt:" header line at the top of the screen. 3. Type ^G (Get help, as shown on menu at foot of screen). 4. Read instructions. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Jun 1996, G. V. Palazzolo wrote: > I want to send an attachmet along with a message on PINE. How do I do > this. I could not find an answer on the online help. > > gvp > > -- > Knowledge is power. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11437; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:33:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25438; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:29:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25432; Mon, 10 Jun 96 01:29:52 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:27:29 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA06526; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:28:31 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:28:30 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Paul E Kayak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View-header in config menu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII First, a hint... If you can see/find something in the Configuration screen use the Where (W) command to search for a string, just as you can in a message or index screen. In particular doing a "W header" takes you straight to the option called "enable-full-header-cmd". (Then typing a "?" or "^G" displays help about this feature.) Having turned on this option you can then use the now-available "H" command when viewing a message (or in the Index screen). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > > Where is the view-header option in config menu? > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12179; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:10:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11787; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:07:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11781; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:07:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT2uK-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Saving e-mail Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:49:00 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4p9rp0$cli@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4p9rp0$cli@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 7 Jun 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > Can somone tell me if there is an easier way to save e-mail messages so I > can download them to my computer. I am just using a regular Unix > account, text-based. > > [...] It may not be _exactly_ what you want, but you can download an entire folder at once. To the Unix file system, a Pine folder is merely any other file with its own internal structure (fortunately, generally humanly readable). Just cd to the directory where Pine keeps its folders (for me it's $HOME/mail) and download the folder/file you want. After you have done that, you can edit it on your own computer to your heart's content to remove what you don't want, and back in Pine you can delete the messages you don't want. A bit of a kludge, but it works. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12208; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:11:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25887; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:07:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25881; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:07:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT2uK-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 02:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jnl@crl.com (Jim Lindsay) Subject: Must be an easier way! Date: 7 Jun 1996 16:30:37 -0700 Message-Id: <4pae2t$ml@crl.crl.com> I could use some help, maybe a reference to the FAQ, maybe a return note. I just can't figure out an easier way to print my email. What I have been doing is using the E command to export to my home directory. Then I use the sz command to send it to my PC via zmodem. Then I need to hangup, exit communication software, enter Wordperfect, access the file, and print it. I can't do this while I'm still connected since I don't have enough memeory on this DOS machine. I could use the DOS command "Print" while I am still on-line. But "Print" won't convert he carriage return to carriage return/line feed, so it won't print out. So, I get anice printed page, but it sure is hard. What is the easy way out? jim lindsay jnl@crl.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16022; Mon, 10 Jun 96 05:09:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13638; Mon, 10 Jun 96 04:59:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13632; Mon, 10 Jun 96 04:59:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by visla.utia.cas.cz (8.7.5/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA24022; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:59:07 +0200 (METDST) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:59:06 +0200 (METDST) From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} Reply-To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to force folder to be in specific format? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?stav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_=28=DATIA?= =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=29_AV_=C8R?= Acknowledge-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Delivery-To: vs+delivery@utia.cas.cz Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs+reading@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 4 Jun 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > > Is it possible to force a folder to be in a specific format? What I m= ean > > is following: > There is no way to do this in Pine, although it can be done in the > low-level libraries used by Pine. Other than the INBOX, there is no > general way to force alternate formats from Pine. >=20 > We recommend that, if you want to change the default folder format, tha= t > you edit the c-client Makefile to set STDPROTO to something else (e.g. > tenexproto) and then rebuild Pine. A long time ago someone mailed a sulution that works for me (Pine 9.93) without recompiling: Make a file named .mminit in your home directory and put a following line into it: set empty-folder-format tenex It sholud cjange the behaviour of the low-level libraries used by pine. Hope it helps.=20 V. S. Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD, =DATIA AV =C8R, Pod vod=E1renskou v=EC=BE=ED 4, 182 08 Praha 8-Libe=F2, +42 2 6605/2364, telefax: +42 2 6884677, vs@utia.cas.cz, http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-cz.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16726; Mon, 10 Jun 96 06:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14265; Mon, 10 Jun 96 05:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14259; Mon, 10 Jun 96 05:57:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT6Ur-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neo Martinez Subject: Pine to PC-Pine file conversion Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:57:29 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy folks, I've got about 30MB of over 100 Pine folders of files plus 100's of addresses on my Unix account. I want to move it all onto my Win95 PC and use the 32 bit PC Pine 3.93 as efficiently as possible (read: with very little changes to my usual use of unix Pine, especially use of folders and old saved mail). I've got fine internet file transfer abilities. Anyone wanna tell me the cool way to do it? Thanks! -neo From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18074; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:06:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29341; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:03:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29335; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT7Vz-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ming Ma Subject: pine flagging Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 22:54:59 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been noticing that if I postpone a reply to a message that the message doesn't get flagged as being answered. In fact it doesn't get flagged with anything. Anyone know why? Thanks. ______ Ming Ma University of Washington http://weber.u.washington.edu/~mingm From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19050; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29824; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:31:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29818; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:31:22 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA17662; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:29:11 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:29:11 +0300 (EET DST) To: Pine Discussion List Cc: dlm@cac.washington.edu, Dimakopoulos Panagiotis Subject: URGENT! - Serious bug! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, It seems that pine has problems with big messages when they are inserted in the mail body via ^R. The problem appeared originally when I was sending a text with greek chars which was about 7600 chars. The posting was in MIME format and pine encoded that in BASE64. Unfortunately from the original message there are characters at the end of the message which did not arrive. I thought that it was a problem with the encoding and, possibly, the greek chars. However I tried to post to myself the tech-notes.txt file from the pine3.93 distribution. The message that I received had many chars missing after the first 10.000 chars. Trying to associate that with the greek chars posting I suspect that the problem with a mail is when its size is around 10.000. So, when I was trying to post my 7600 greek chars they probably were encoded at a size around the problematic 10.000. This problem made us feel very unsafe about the fate of our big mails. I would greatly appreciate your comments. Thank you, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19652; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15995; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:58:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15986; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT8NR-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 07:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan David Makepeace Subject: Incoming Mail Notification Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:03:34 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We read our Unix email using Pine 3.91 and a Windows Telnet application called Host Presenter. Does anyone know how we can get Unix, Pine, or Host Presenter to make our PC's beep at us when we get new mail? We'd like to be able to leave a Pine session running in the background during the day but be able to hear when we have new mail. -- Jonathan David Makepeace Monograph Cataloger/Automation Specialist LSU Libraries, 30 Middleton Tel. (504) 388-3331 Louisiana State University Fax. (504) 388-6992 Baton Rouge, LA 70803-3300 mailto:notjdm@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19788; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:05:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00569; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00563; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:03:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT8Sd-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.93 /var/spool/mail/etc. won't lock - permission denied Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 23:26:42 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31ADB884.6B3C9397@chiro.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31ADB884.6B3C9397@chiro.org> On Thu, 30 May 1996, Ed Merrifield wrote: > I can't get a lock file created on /var/spool/mail/whatever using 3.93. > I never received this message with 3.91. /var/spool/mail is set to > root/mail with 775 permissions. The protection of /var/spool/mail should be set to 1777; that is, public write with the sticky bit. You didn't get this message with 3.91 because 3.91 ignored this error condition. Ignoring it prevents locking against mail delivery when Pine is rewriting the mailbox, resulting in lost mail or damaged mail files. That's why 3.93 doesn't ignore it any more. As for why it was ignored, it was falsely represented to me many years ago that 775 protections on /var/spool/mail only occur on systems in which sendmail uses flock() instead of .lock files for locking. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20162; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:16:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16268; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:08:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16262; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:08:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uT8Xd-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Handling of decnet addresses Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 23:32:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: <31ADEEE1.41C67EA6@alf.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31ADEEE1.41C67EA6@alf.dec.com> On Thu, 30 May 1996, Jeff Finkelstein wrote: > Has anyone modified pine to deal with decnet-style addressing, e.g. > node::user? I would hate to reinvent the wheel ;-) Pine only supports Internet RFC-822 addressing syntax. DECnet syntax is particularly problematic, since it collides with RFC-822 group syntax and source route syntax. I suggest that you use sendmail rules to rewrite DECnet syntax into Internet syntax, and use Internet syntax exclusively. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24294; Mon, 10 Jun 96 09:41:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18525; Mon, 10 Jun 96 09:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18517; Mon, 10 Jun 96 09:37:23 -0700 Received: from ciint by ns.NL.net via EUnet id AA23107 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:02:59 +0200 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa24132; 10 Jun 96 17:42 WET Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:39:54 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Cc: Pine Discussion List , dlm@cac.washington.edu, Dimakopoulos Panagiotis Subject: Re: URGENT! - Serious bug! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr wrote: > Hi, > > It seems that pine has problems with big messages when they > are inserted in the mail body via ^R. The problem appeared originally > when I was sending a text with greek chars which was about 7600 chars. > The posting was in MIME format and pine encoded that in BASE64. > Unfortunately from the original message there are characters at the > end of the message which did not arrive. > > I thought that it was a problem with the encoding and, > possibly, the greek chars. However I tried to post to myself the > tech-notes.txt file from the pine3.93 distribution. The message > that I received had many chars missing after the first 10.000 chars. > Trying to associate that with the greek chars posting I suspect that > the problem with a mail is when its size is around 10.000. So, when > I was trying to post my 7600 greek chars they probably were encoded > at a size around the problematic 10.000. A problem was found in Pine 3.93 that could occur when big files were being sent on relatively slow systems. This bug would result in strings of missing characters at seemingly random places in the raw message (it could therefore also corrupt MIME attachments). To me, this seems to be the problem you are having. The problem is related to the alarm() calls that get executed to update the progress indicator which is displayed while the message is being sent. This problem will be fixed in the new Pine 3.94 release, which will be available soon at your regular supplier :-) Kind regards, - Richard. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | Let me make one thing perfectly clear: | | CI International B.V. Netherlands | I never explain anything! (Mary Poppins)| +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27768; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:57:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04987; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:53:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04981; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:53:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11599; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:53:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:53:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Jacques Talbot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: by-nick-of-from behavior is strange in 3.93 In-Reply-To: <31B53A36.FF6@frec.bull.fr> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Jun 1996, Jacques Talbot wrote: > The behavior of the by-nick-of-from option in the saved-msg-name-rule > in the config menu of pine 3.93 is not what I would expect: > > if the from: field is in the .addressbook, pine saves to nickname: OK > if the from: field is not in the .addressbook, pine saves in > the default "saved-messages" folder, while I would expect it to save to > name derived from the by-from option. Looks more intuitive > Somehow the option should be named: by-nick-of-from-then-from > > Before submitting a Bug report, I would like to be sure I am not > missing something. Both by-nick-of-from and by-nick-of-from-then-from will be available in 3.94, to be released this week. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28023; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:02:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05159; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:59:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05153; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:59:22 -0700 Received: from UW-Gateway.Panda.COM by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67f2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA15203; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:59:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (NX5.67e/UW-NDC/Panda Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA08848; Mon, 10 Jun 96 10:59:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to force folder to be in specific format? To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Bc=2E_Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:59:06 +0200 (METDST), =?ISO-8859- 2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= {Vladimir Solnicky} wrote: > A long time ago someone mailed a sulution that works for me (Pine 9.93) > without recompiling: > > Make a file named .mminit in your home directory and put a following line > into it: > > set empty-folder-format tenex > > It sholud cjange the behaviour of the low-level libraries used by pine. > Hope it helps. This particular technique works in Pine 3.93, but it is undocumented and it probably will not work in future versions of Pine. I recommend strongly against relying upon it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28240; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:05:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05308; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05302; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:03:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTBH1-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: VMS distribution list to PINE Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:36:32 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does any one know of a way to take a VMSmail .DIS file and transfer it into Unix pine format? I can transfer an copy the .DIS (distribution list) to Unix but form there I am stumped. How do I get this distribution list into pine format? I have tried to just copy it into my .addressbook file but, Pine has its own format for and addressbook with the nickname, name and then the address. Is there a way to convert this or do I have to do this line by line? Thanks in advance! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00670; Mon, 10 Jun 96 12:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22358; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22352; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:58:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTCA7-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Re: Saving e-mail Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:28:46 GMT Message-Id: <4phpb7$bd4@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <4p9rp0$cli@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> You can use the ";" command to select a group of messages, either one at a time or based on common criteria. Then use the "A" command ("Apply") followed by the E and the filename to export the whole group of messages to a single file which you can then download. The messages are not separated within the file (except by a CRLF). -Ram On 7 Jun 1996 18:18:08 GMT, abe0084@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (Adam Vardy) wrote: >Can somone tell me if there is an easier way to save e-mail messages so I >can download them to my computer. I am just using a regular Unix >account, text-based. >In Pine, I can press E to export 1 message into my directory for later >downloading. But I have to type the filename each time. It is a lot of >work to do that for 10 or 20 messages. Is there anyway I can save a >whole bunch of messages? Just tag off whichever ones I want to save and >use one command to save them all? Must be some way. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03118; Mon, 10 Jun 96 13:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08363; Mon, 10 Jun 96 12:58:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08357; Mon, 10 Jun 96 12:58:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTD5N-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: separate charsets for header encoding and 'Content-Type' Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:12:12 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It may sound silly, but I'd like to suggest that Pine allow users to optionally use two separate character set names for header encoding (=?charset?B?....?= or =?charset?Q?....?=) and 'charset=' parameter of 'Content-Type:' header. With this **optional** (thus not affecting those who don't need it) feature, one would be able to send out Korean messages strictly conforming to RFC 1557, which requires that KSC 5601(8bit, EUC-KR) in the body of the message is encoded in ISO-2022-KR (thus in 'Content-Type:' header,paramter 'charset=' is to be 'ISO-2022-KR') while EUC-KR characters in header are to be B or Q encoded with charset name 'EUC-KR'. (B encoding is preferred). The same may be the case for Chinese messages in ISO-2022-CN, for which RFC is being written(or may have been already written). Enclosed is what Korean message following RFC 1557 looks like where ^[ stands for ESC(ASCII 27, \033), ^N for SO(ASCII 14), and ^O for SI(ASCII 15) and 'Korean' means any EUC-KR(8bit) characters with MSB stripped off to make them 7bit. Details are not relevant to this suggestion since code conversion can be done by 'sending-filter' in Pine 3.92 or later. --------- Subject: =?EUC-KR?B?......?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-KR Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Other-headers..... Message body....US-ASCII..... ^[$C) ^NKorean^OUS-ASCII ^NKorean^O US-ASCII ^N US-ASCII^NKorean^O ------------- I would be very grateful for careful consideration of this proposal by the Pine team. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15459; Mon, 10 Jun 96 17:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01613; Mon, 10 Jun 96 17:49:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01607; Mon, 10 Jun 96 17:49:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTHc2-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 17:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lps@igate.iohk.com (S Chan) Subject: Re: FROM: field changed to TO: field in 3.93's Newsgroups? Date: 11 Jun 1996 00:39:05 GMT Message-Id: <4pif7a$s1d@ibridge.iohk.com> References: Patrick Dery (pdery@ecn.ulaval.ca) wrote: : Hi! : What happens is that, for the letters _I_ post only, the FROM: field in : the index of the newsgroup is changed into the TO: field. Here's an : example: This seems to be a regular Q. A. Its meant to be that way- we all see our own posts as "to ...." and everyone elses seem OK. But to all of your readers the header looks just fine... Personally I think its the development team doing their bit to foster a little paranoia among newbies to help keep us in our rightful place...... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- LPS * Laciar Enterprises, Hong Kong * lps@iohk.com * +(852) 2877 2178 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15839; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:06:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16445; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:04:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16439; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:04:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTHro-00038TC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lps@igate.iohk.com (S Chan) Subject: Re: Newsreading with Pine Date: 11 Jun 1996 00:49:15 GMT Message-Id: <4pifqb$se9@ibridge.iohk.com> References: <31B6C0F5.32FF@qnet.com> Jeff Stillinger (jss@qnet.com) wrote: : Hello all, : I would like to use pine as a news reader. News arives at ibbs from : a UUCP link. How can I get pine to act as a news reader? I have : played with the options and it still can't find the newsgroups. : Any ideas? This is just a beginner talking - but i think that if you go from the main menu into Setup, then Config and trawl through the options you'll find one that is 'nntp server' or similar. Find out the name of your news server from the relevant admin people and insert it (ie news.zzz.xxx). I'm unsure because in the end I went back to using TIN - because I found the threading of posts makes it easier to deal with high volume groups. Hope this helps point you in the right direction. Malcolm -------------------------------------------------------------------------- LPS * Laciar Enterprises, Hong Kong * lps@iohk.com * +(852) 2877 2178 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16627; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02304; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:39:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02298; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:39:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTINP-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 18:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfzna@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Barbara Bernice Griffin) Subject: How to Download in Text Date: 11 Jun 1996 00:16:28 GMT Message-Id: <4pidss$kgh@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> I have not been able to receive Text file from Freenet onto my computer. I have been able to receive Binary Text, however, I so not know how to deciper this, therefore it is useless to me. Can someone please help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18998; Mon, 10 Jun 96 20:37:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18312; Mon, 10 Jun 96 20:34:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18306; Mon, 10 Jun 96 20:34:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTKAb-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cpmartin@iohk.com (Charles Martin, Hong Kong) Subject: Re: Clarinet read problem Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:26:36 -0400 Message-Id: References: <4otnom$2e9@ibridge.iohk.com> ::You havent't installed the metamail package that TIN requires. You might ::try using Pine for news; it has Mime built in. Or an offline newsreader, like YARN (Dos) or Eudora (Windows). o--------=| Charles Martin |=--o From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24250; Mon, 10 Jun 96 23:09:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06387; Mon, 10 Jun 96 23:04:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06381; Mon, 10 Jun 96 23:04:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTMXp-00038BC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 23:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine --> eudora MIME problem Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 11:52:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: <4nu61b$10t@ibridge.iohk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4nu61b$10t@ibridge.iohk.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22 May 1996, S Chan wrote: > Why is there a difference between the way Pine treats a mimed attachment > that originates in pine and one that originates in eudora - and how can I > change it ? > Pine does not care about the origin of a MIME message, only the content. > I use Pine to mail a simple ASCII file to a colleague in Canada. > > If I send the email to myself with the file attached it arrives OK and I > can read it in pine (using the Viewer command to see the attachment). > > When she reads it with Eudora the attachment is incorporated in the body > of the message , with various headers attached. this causes hassle > because she has to manually edit the message to separate the attachment. > Eudora expects a Content-Disposition: header, which Pine does not currently support. I'm not all that familiar with Eudora, but I would consider the inability to save parts of a MIME message separately to be a serious limitation.... > We have the same problem the other way around too. If she sends me a > message with a mimed attachment I get lines inserted in the message > telling me to use 'munpack' to decode it. > That sort of informative text belongs in the preamble before the first MIME part. If Eudora puts it inside the MIME body, Pine has no way to suppress it... > > My question again - > Why is there a difference between the way Pine treats a mimed attachment > that originates in pine and one that originates in eudora - and how can I > change it ? > We will probably add support for Content-Disposition in Pine 4. That will hopefully improve compatibility... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMa3ukt/IU4uTDdHNAQE9pgH+N8wycsM8d62CZxVtLumrpxER4bb3EyL2 Yqb9T4ar05fAQ+qZC7qWnJVT6Rd0sHG8qGH/w0hOrZ/zRV4n/XYmQw== =bEVC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01770; Tue, 11 Jun 96 03:50:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24387; Tue, 11 Jun 96 03:45:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24381; Tue, 11 Jun 96 03:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTQu3-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 03:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pvrossem@vub.ac.be (Peter Van Rossem) Subject: Preventing PINE to use maildomains Date: 11 Jun 1996 10:33:47 GMT Message-Id: <4pji2b$e68@rc1.vub.ac.be> Greetings, We are having some problems configuration PINE 3.93. Compilation works fine, the problem is that PINE 3.93 automatically fills in maildomains in the From: and Return-Path: headers, which is based on the hostname and the domainname of the machine. However, as our system serves users belonging to different maildomains (ulb.ac.be, vub.ac.be), we use sendmail to determine the From: and Return-Path: for a user; to archieve this, sendmail uses a special database which contains which user belongs to which domain. I have tried to correct some things with the 2 definitions in the PINE configuration file which I believe are relevant: # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= but setting these in the system's pine.conf file has no effect. With pine 3.93, I *can* override the maildomain by setting the "user-domain" to a specific value, but I can only define one, either vub.ac.be or ulb.ac.be, not both. Agreed, each user can define this for him/herself, but PINE uses this maildomain also when mailing to someone having an address on the same machine; if the user does not include the maildomain in the email address of his correspondent, PINE fills in the maildomain of the user sending the message. Again, the user can do something about that by typing the full email address including the maildomain of course. I also tried to install PINE 3.91, which has a slightly different way of filling in the maildomain than in 3.93, but the hostname still gets included in the From: address if I do not define the "user-domain". Is there any easy solution to prevent PINE using this kind of automatic maildomain determination without having to "patch" the PINE code itself? What I want in fact is that PINE leaves alone any addresses specified by the user (To, From, Cc, ...), i.e. PINE does not have to resolve the email addresses but has to leave it to sendmail to fill those in. Is a patch available perhaps? Or did I overlook something? Thanks for any suggestions. Regards, Peter ======================================================================== Peter Van Rossem User Support Group Brussels Free University Computing Centre Phone: +32-2-650.37.71 Pleinlaan 2, B-1050 Brussels, Belgium ======================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06932; Tue, 11 Jun 96 06:58:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26863; Tue, 11 Jun 96 06:53:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.141.1.4] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26856; Tue, 11 Jun 96 06:53:38 -0700 Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc [144.16.64.3]) by mail-relay-BLR.ernet.in (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id SAA22762 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 18:37:01 +0530 Received: from vigyan.UUCP by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id AA13565; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:29:21+0530 Received: by vigyan.iisc.ernet.in (smail2.3) id AA07485; 11 Jun 96 17:59:50 EDT (Tue) Received: from se08 by isac.ernet.in (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA60354; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:22:16 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:22:15 +0000 (CUT) From: Shrishail Halyal X-Sender: shail@se08 To: Pine-Info Subject: Pine 3.92 Source code : Availability Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can any one inform about the site, from which i can download source code for pine 3.92, which I believe, the latest one. _________________________________________________________________ Shrishail Halyal Email : shail@isac.ernet.in Engineer, STD/CIG, Phone : 080-5267156, 5266251-2476/2583 ISRO Satellite Centre Fax : 080-5217657 Airport Road, Resi.Ad.: H-38, 3rd Main, Khadi Layout, Bangalore - 560017 Vivekananda nagar Bangalore-85. _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07664; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:27:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12888; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hermes.cti.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12882; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:23:45 -0700 From: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Received: (from dimakop@localhost) by hermes.cti.gr (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA06458; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:21:35 +0300 (EET DST) Organization: Computer Technology Institute - (CTI) Kolokotroni 3, 262 21 Patras, P.O.Box 1122, 261 10 Patras, Greece Tel: +30(61)992061, 994317-18 Fax: +30(61)993973, 222086 TELEX: 312515 CTI GR Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 17:21:34 +0300 (EET DST) To: Pine Developers Cc: Pine Discussion List Subject: Sug (ID JD56T): User authentication during news reading Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have not been able to make pine to send authentication info to the news server where it tries to read Usenet news from. This is necessary as the news server can keep groups/lists which are not accessible by everyone but only by authorised users. So, a password mechanism would be necessary, I think. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------ | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | | P.O. Box 1122 | | 261 10 Patras, Greece | | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | ------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08648; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:55:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13312; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13306; Tue, 11 Jun 96 07:51:31 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:49:11 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA07505; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:49:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:49:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Shrishail Halyal Cc: Pine-Info Subject: Re: Pine 3.92 Source code : Availability In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually Pine 3.93 is the current version, and version 3.94 is due out really soon. You can get the latest source code kit from ftp.cac.washington.edu (directory /pine) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Shrishail Halyal wrote: > > > Can any one inform about the site, from which > i can download source code for pine 3.92, which > I believe, the latest one. > _________________________________________________________________ > > Shrishail Halyal Email : shail@isac.ernet.in > Engineer, STD/CIG, Phone : 080-5267156, 5266251-2476/2583 > ISRO Satellite Centre Fax : 080-5217657 > Airport Road, Resi.Ad.: H-38, 3rd Main, Khadi Layout, > Bangalore - 560017 Vivekananda nagar Bangalore-85. > _________________________________________________________________ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10314; Tue, 11 Jun 96 08:38:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14314; Tue, 11 Jun 96 08:35:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14307; Tue, 11 Jun 96 08:34:51 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:31:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id QAA14071; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:06:59 +0100 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:06:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr Cc: Pine Developers , Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Sug (ID JD56T): User authentication during news reading In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You didn't mention what version of Pine you are currently using! Pine 3.93 (the current version) certainly supports authentication for reading and/or posting Usenet News. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Jun 1996 Pan.Dimakopoulos@cti.gr wrote: > Hi, > > I have not been able to make pine to send authentication info > to the news server where it tries to read Usenet news from. This is > necessary as the news server can keep groups/lists which are not > accessible by everyone but only by authorised users. So, a password > mechanism would be necessary, I think. > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------------------ > | Panos Dimakopoulos dimakop@cti.gr | > | COMPUTER TECHNOLOGY INSTITUTE | > | P.O. Box 1122 | > | 261 10 Patras, Greece | > | Tel (+30) 61 992061, 994317 Fax (+30) 61 993973 | > ------------------------------------------------------ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12776; Tue, 11 Jun 96 09:19:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15525; Tue, 11 Jun 96 09:16:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15517; Tue, 11 Jun 96 09:16:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTW6Q-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 09:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Llewellyn Subject: How to setup for inbox on remote system? Date: 11 Jun 1996 15:41:57 GMT Message-Id: <4pk445$hbh@samba.rahul.net> I've got Pine 3.92 on a system at work. I'd like to use that local copy of Pine to access my inbox located at an ISP on a system completely outside my company (different domain). I've tried modifying the Pine configuration to achieve this but have been unsuccessful. Is there an easy way to do this? Can somebody advise me so I don't have to bumble my way through the setup? Thanks! -- -- Bill Llewellyn, http://rahul.net/thinker "I'd never quote myself." (...me) I'll take on ANYBODY in a missppelling contest. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17473; Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:55:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02651; Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:44:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02645; Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:44:21 -0700 Received: from carson.u.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20461; Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:44:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Linda Page To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Signature placement Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I monitor two email accounts, one on Homer and one on Carson. When I respond to a message in Pine on Homer, the signature line is placed above the old message and below where the new message goes. This is the way it should be. When I do the same thing in Pine on Carson, the signature line goes at the end after the old message. Can you tell me what is wrong? Thank you. ************************************************************************* Linda Page 206/731-3293 Phone Administrative Assistant 206/731-3483 Fax AIDS Clinical Trials Unit lpage@u.washington.edu 1001 Broadway, Suite 218 Box 359929 Seattle, WA 98122 ************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21464; Tue, 11 Jun 96 12:16:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20740; Tue, 11 Jun 96 12:14:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.alaska.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20734; Tue, 11 Jun 96 12:14:06 -0700 Received: from VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU by VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-13 #15604) id <01I5S3TNP8NQ8ZFVPG@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU>; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:12:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:12:51 -0800 From: asra@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU Subject: PINE Question To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am trying to find out more about PINE. I would appreciate some help. Thanks in advance. I have sent for a FAQ e-mail also. 1. Is there a way to change the defaults on my e-mail when using PINE? I do not want messages automatically deleted upon exit. 2. How do I delete, then expunge a single message? I just deleted and expunged my entire base of messages and I needed some of the information. 3. Is there a help manual floating around out there someplace? Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24792; Tue, 11 Jun 96 13:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06700; Tue, 11 Jun 96 13:06:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06694; Tue, 11 Jun 96 13:06:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTZeM-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 13:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu (Jeffrey Liu) Subject: Make a REPLY-TO Field? Date: 11 Jun 1996 19:42:31 GMT Message-Id: <4pki77$orc@cocoa.brown.edu> Hey all... I use pop mail. Since I dial in to retrieve my mail, as much as I would love to send mail through pine, I can't because I cannot set my return address. My return address is simply a bogus root@ or user@ my machine name. If there is a way to set a REPLY or REPLY-TO field in the header of my outgoing emails through the use of PINE (without editing Sendmail.cf) this would be appreciated. Thanks! :) Please email me back as I do not have the fortune of reading newsgroups everyday :) -- JEFF :O Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08090; Tue, 11 Jun 96 17:21:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28718; Tue, 11 Jun 96 17:16:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28712; Tue, 11 Jun 96 17:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTdY9-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 17:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: mailinglists with pine? Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 19:58:01 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Jochen Krueger wrote: > How can I setup pine to sort mails from a certain address in another > folder than inbox? I'm subscribed to two mailinglists and would like to > store those mails in seperate folders. Pine by itself will not put incoming mail into different folders for you. You have to use some sort of filtering program ahead of Pine, such as procmail or (Elm's) filter on Un*x systems. If you have a WWW browser, browse my home page and follow the link to Nancy McGough's pages. She has a lot of good information on mail filtering. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11114; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:34:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00753; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:32:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00745; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:32:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTfh3-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: playhaus@news.gate.net () Subject: Pine and OS/2 Date: 11 Jun 1996 22:11:12 GMT Message-Id: I'm using the OS/2 port of Pine 3.92. How do I configure my mail server, which is pop.gate.net? I get an error message everytime the program starts. It won't connect to my mail server. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11144; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15576; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:22:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15570; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:22:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTfUf-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 19:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Dustman Subject: Re: Removing "Undisclosed Recipients" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:53:57 -0400 Message-Id: <31BDCED5.27AE3D10@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Josh G Renzema wrote: > I seem to have muffed my pinerc file, and now every message > that I send has a "Undislosed Recipients" line in the To: field - Any > idea, short of nuking my pinerc file, about how to remove this? If you did it, you are not alone. I have the same problem with PINE 3.93, Linux 2.0. It always adds the header line: To: Undisclosed recipients: ; even when there are obviously recipients (in the To: or Cc:). Not fatal, but annoying. -- Andy Dustman / Computational Center for Molecular Structure and Design / UGA ===== For PGP public key: finger andy@neptune.chem.uga.edu | pgp -fka ===== Sure, the Telecomm Act will create jobs: 100,000 new thought-cops on the net http://charon.chem.uga.edu/~andy mailto:andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu <}+++< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13027; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:14:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16943; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16937; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uThEw-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ctorlins@crl.com (Christoph Torlinsky) Subject: pine 3.94 Date: 11 Jun 1996 20:50:22 -0700 Message-Id: <4plepu$2gt@crl14.crl.com> Whats the schedule and who are "vendors". -chris ps: awaiting it eagerly like the second coming of windows95 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13384; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:28:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02216; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:22:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02210; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:22:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uThR3-00038UC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brad M. Garcia" Subject: Re: mouse functionnalities in xterm ? Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:42:18 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Jean Richelle wrote: > I just installed the 3.93 version of pine and have been very pleased to > read that it support x functionalities. > But for enable-mouse-in-xterm, I couldn't notice nothing new. > The explanation in the help is not sufficient for me to understand what I > can gain. It appears that this new mouse code is either very buggy or is not completely implemented. But while composing a message, you can move the cursor around by simply clicking at a new position (doesn't always work correctly - try clicking on the "to" line in the header while the cursor is in the body). To cut and paste, hold down the shift key and use buttons 1 & 2 like you would in an xterm. You can then click on "send" at the bottom of the screen to send the message (But when it asks for confirmation, clicking on "yes", "no", or "cancel" does not work). I've been waiting for this functionality. I hope the maintainers can get all the bugs worked out. Brad Garcia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13709; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:43:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17303; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17297; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uThkW-00038BC; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: pine 3.93 with premail 0.43 Date: 11 Jun 1996 23:39:14 -0400 Message-Id: <19960611233908.aaaa006pC@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Just wondering if anyone out there has gotten these two progams to "play nice" together under Linux 1.2.13 (or any other OS for that matter)? if you have, please describe exactly what steps you took to arrive at such a happy union... because I am at my wit's end here. info on premail can be found at http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13777; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:45:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02489; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02483; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:54 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03821; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:53 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06769; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:42:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:42:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Christoph Torlinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.94 In-Reply-To: <4plepu$2gt@crl14.crl.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "This week" and "the University of Washington" -teg p.s. Will two comings of windows95 be sufficient? :) On 11 Jun 1996, Christoph Torlinsky wrote: > Whats the schedule and who are "vendors". > > > -chris > > ps: awaiting it eagerly like the second coming of windows95 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13851; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:48:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17338; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:45:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17332; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:45:38 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25686; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:45:37 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06794; Tue, 11 Jun 96 21:45:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Linda Page Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature placement In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On your Carson account, go to the Config screen and find the "signature-at-bottom" feature, then UNset it. -teg On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Linda Page wrote: > > I monitor two email accounts, one on Homer and one on Carson. When I > respond to a message in Pine on Homer, the signature line is placed above > the old message and below where the new message goes. This is the way it > should be. When I do the same thing in Pine on Carson, the signature > line goes at the end after the old message. Can you tell me what is > wrong? Thank you. > > ************************************************************************* > Linda Page 206/731-3293 Phone > Administrative Assistant 206/731-3483 Fax > AIDS Clinical Trials Unit lpage@u.washington.edu > 1001 Broadway, Suite 218 Box 359929 > Seattle, WA 98122 > ************************************************************************* > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28044; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:18:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08101; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08094; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:50 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:59:58 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA00645; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:00:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:00:57 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: asra@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Jun 1996 asra@VMS.ACAD2.ALASKA.EDU wrote: > I am trying to find out more about PINE. I would appreciate some help. > Thanks in advance. I have sent for a FAQ e-mail also. If you have access to a World-Wide Web browser you may also like to check out the Pine Information Centre at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > 1. Is there a way to change the defaults on my e-mail when using PINE? > I do not want messages automatically deleted upon exit. If you don't want a message deleting as you leave Pine then don't delete the message! Reading a message does NOT automatically delete a message; it simply removes its "New" status, as indicated by the "N" at the start of its summary line in the Index screen. You *request* a message be deleted by using the "D" command. This puts a "D" at the start of the summary line in the Index screen for the message. When you close the folder (eg, by quitting Pine) or ask Pine to expunge deleted messages (using the "X" command) *then* messages are actually deleted. (In fact, if you're doing this by quitting out of Pine then the default even then is NOT to expunge the folder immediately but to ask you for confirmation.) If you're not seeing this action then I suspect Pine's settings have been changed, either for you along (in your personal settings) or the system-wide defaults (set up by the system administrator). You can review these settings and change them by using the Setup (S) command followed by Configuration (C) ... use these at Pine's Main Menu screen. Things to look out for there include: * Is "expunge-without-confirm" set? If so then you WON'T be asked to confirm expunging folders as you quit out of Pine: it'll just happen. * Is "read-message-folder" set? If so then any messages you read in your INBOX folder will be moved to the named folder and deleted from the INBOX. You will be prompted to confirm this action whenever it is about to happen unless the "auto-move-read-msgs" feature is also set. The latter MAY be the cause of your "vanishing messages" ... in fact they're not really being "deleted" simply moved out of your INBOX into another folder, where they still remain. Your systems administrator may have set this up as standard behaviour to, for example, reduce pressure on the disk mail is delivered to by moving read messages elsewhere. > 2. How do I delete, then expunge a single message? I just deleted and > expunged my entire base of messages and I needed some of the information. To delete a single message: 1. Read it (or highlight it on the Index screen) and give the "D" command to *request* it be deleted at some point in the future 2. Expunge the folder by giving the "X" command. (Note that this will *actually delete* ALL messages you have *requested* be deleted.) > 3. Is there a help manual floating around out there someplace? Assuming you are using Pine on a UNIX system you'll probably be able to get some help on starting Pine by looking at its manual page (if your systems administrator has installed this page): man pine Otherwise try using the help system built into Pine. General information is available by typing "?" at the Main Menu screen. In virtually every other place context-sensitive (ie, relevant to what you're currently doing/have selected) help is available by typing ^G (often the "?" synonym will also display this help). Other information is available at the Pine Information Centre on the Web (see the URL above). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28389; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:22:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08120; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08105; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:55 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:08:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA04050; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:09:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:09:09 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andy Dustman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Removing "Undisclosed Recipients" In-Reply-To: <31BDCED5.27AE3D10@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is *important* that something is ALWAYS present in the "To:" field. (Some people try and send out messages to lists of people by just listing the recipients in the "Cc:" or (better) "Bcc:" fields.) HOWEVER when such a message arrives at its destination the delivery software there MAY do funny things if no "To:" header was present. The worst case is when the "Bcc:" field was used to list the recipients, in which case the delivery software MAY reveal the hidden list by converting the recipients to a visible list of "Apparently-To:" headers. To prevent these problems Pine 3.92 onwards always fills in the "To:" field if you do not do so. The default text it fills it with is "Undisclosed recipients" (but you can change this in the Setup Configuration screen). You can override it on a poer message basis by filling in the "To:" field yourself. You could put a valid e-mail address there (eg, your own to receive a copy yourself), or a string followed by the magic ":;" sequence of characters (which then merely acts as a label). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Andy Dustman wrote: > Josh G Renzema wrote: > > I seem to have muffed my pinerc file, and now every message > > that I send has a "Undislosed Recipients" line in the To: field - Any > > idea, short of nuking my pinerc file, about how to remove this? > > If you did it, you are not alone. I have the same problem with PINE 3.93, > Linux 2.0. It always adds the header line: > > To: Undisclosed recipients: ; > > even when there are obviously recipients (in the To: or Cc:). Not fatal, but > annoying. > > -- > Andy Dustman / Computational Center for Molecular Structure and Design / UGA > ===== For PGP public key: finger andy@neptune.chem.uga.edu | pgp -fka ===== > Sure, the Telecomm Act will create jobs: 100,000 new thought-cops on the net > http://charon.chem.uga.edu/~andy mailto:andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu <}+++< > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28418; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:22:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08108; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08098; Wed, 12 Jun 96 04:11:53 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:02:50 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA02077; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:03:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:03:58 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jeffrey Liu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Make a REPLY-TO Field? In-Reply-To: <4pki77$orc@cocoa.brown.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can add the "Reply-To" (and any other) custom header by: 1. Start Pine. 2. At the Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen by typing "S" then "C". 3. Move the highlight down to the "customized-hdrs" item. 4. Read its help by typing "?" 5. Exit the help screen and follow its instructions. :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 11 Jun 1996, Jeffrey Liu wrote: > Hey all... > > I use pop mail. Since I dial in to retrieve my mail, as much as I > would love to send mail through pine, I can't because I cannot set my > return address. My return address is simply a bogus root@ or user@ > my machine name. If there is a way to set a REPLY or REPLY-TO field > in the header of my outgoing emails through the use of PINE (without > editing Sendmail.cf) this would be appreciated. Thanks! :) > > Please email me back as I do not have the fortune of reading > newsgroups everyday :) > -- > JEFF :O > Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01940; Wed, 12 Jun 96 06:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24490; Wed, 12 Jun 96 06:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24484; Wed, 12 Jun 96 06:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTpt5-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: How to print e-mail? Date: 11 Jun 1996 14:30:48 GMT Message-Id: <4pjvuo$76@news3.cts.com> I have never quite figured out how to correctly print out any e-mail messages. While in Pine, the only thing I seem to be able to do is click on "turn printer on" - but then it will print everything on the screen, including the commands on the bottom of the page. Plus it prints only one page at a time, so if there is more, I have to hit return, and it will continue - but then these commands wind up in the middle of the message, and often it will repeat two lines. Can somebody please help me figure out how to print messages neat and clean? Would I have to save it to somewhere else first, as a file? But then what? Help! Simone From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03525; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10419; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:07:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10413; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:07:36 -0700 Received: from ues7.cern.ch by mail1.cern.ch with SMTP id AA23802 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:07:34 +0200 Received: from localhost (miotto@localhost) by ues7.cern.ch (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA01442 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:07:33 +0200 (MET DST) X-Authentication-Warning: ues7.cern.ch: miotto owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:07:32 +0200 (MET DST) From: Alessandro MIOTTO X-Sender: miotto@ues7.cern.ch To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine 3.93: resizing windows on HP-UX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just realised that window resizing does not work for pine 3.93 built on an HP: it appears that /usr/include/sys/termio.h is included too late for the "#ifdef TIOCGWINSZ" line in osdep/os-hpp.h to take effect. Am I correct? Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch CH-1211 Geneve 23 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03610; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:18:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10397; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:06:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10387; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:06:51 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:03:48 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA02460; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:04:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:04:08 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Simone Shoemaker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to print e-mail? In-Reply-To: <4pjvuo$76@news3.cts.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It sounds like you are using a "Print Screen" button, or perhaps one that turns the printer on so that EVERY character your terminal program receives gets printed. Instead you should.... 1. (Most Important) Be using a terminal program that supports ANSI printer control escape sequences. These are sequences of special characters that Pine CAN send (if told to do so) before displaying the message. The sequence it performs is this: Send ANSI "Printer ON" code. Send message (which gets rerouted fro the screen to the printer). Send ANSI "Printer OFF" code. This will ONLY work if your terminal program knows about and acts on the Printer On/Off codes. (If you don't know and can't find out then just try it and see.) 2. Tell Pine to use a locallay-attached printer in the above way. You do this very simply... From the Main Menu go to the Setp Printer screen ("S" then *"P"*). Look at the screen descriptions, and select the appropriate one from this section: ---------- Printer attached to IBM PC or compatible, Macintosh This may not work with all attached printers, and will depend on the terminal emulation/communications software in use. It is known to work with Kermit and the latest UW version of NCSA telnet on Macs and PCs, Versaterm Pro on Macs, and WRQ Reflections on PCs. Printer: attached-to-ansi attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed ---------- 3. Having done this try printing a message. Do this by reading a message (or just highlighting it in the Index screen), and then using the "Y" (prYnt) command. If your terminal program DOES understand ANSI Printer On/Off codes the message should come out nicely on your printer (assuming you remembered to turn it on!:-) If your terminal program DOESN'T understand the control codes then the message will just go shooting up the screen instead. Solution? Obtain and use a different terminal program that DOES understand the codes(!). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 11 Jun 1996, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > I have never quite figured out how to correctly print out any e-mail > messages. While in Pine, the only thing I seem to be able to do is click > on "turn printer on" - but then it will print everything on the screen, > including the commands on the bottom of the page. Plus it prints only one > page at a time, so if there is more, I have to hit return, and it will > continue - but then these commands wind up in the middle of the message, > and often it will repeat two lines. > > Can somebody please help me figure out how to print messages neat and clean? > Would I have to save it to somewhere else first, as a file? But then what? > Help! > > Simone > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05352; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11412; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from neptune.chem.uga.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11406; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:05:04 -0700 Received: (from andy@localhost) by neptune.chem.uga.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA07002; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:05:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy Dustman To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: Undisclosed recipients:; Subject: Re: Removing "Undisclosed Recipients" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > It is *important* that something is ALWAYS present in the "To:" field. > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Andy Dustman wrote: > > > even when there are obviously recipients (in the To: or Cc:). Not fatal, but ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, I know. I have been informed that this is a known 3.93 bug which will be fixed in 3.94. Andy Dustman / Computational Center for Molecular Structure and Design / UGA ===== For PGP public key: finger andy@neptune.chem.uga.edu | pgp -fka ===== Sure, the Telecomm Act will create jobs: 100,000 new thought-cops on the net http://charon.chem.uga.edu/~andy mailto:andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu <}+++< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05396; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:17:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11370; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:03:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11364; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:03:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTrOc-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 07:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christine Arida Clovis Subject: pine problem with Disk quota Message-Id: <31BD69A8.7B73@idsc.gov.eg> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:42:16 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have disk quota enabled on our Solaris 2.3 system. When users exceeding disk quota try to delete messages from pine to free space, the messages marked D are not deleted upon exist but are found to still exist in the inbox when going into pine again. Can someone help with this problem ?! Thanks in advance Christine Arida chris@idsc.gov.eg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07391; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27272; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:48:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27266; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:48:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTs6P-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: pine 3.93 with premail 0.43 Date: 12 Jun 1996 15:04:22 GMT Message-Id: <4pmm9m$mup@babbage.ece.uc.edu> References: <19960611233908.aaaa006pC@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> In article <19960611233908.aaaa006pC@babyblue.cs.yale.edu>, writes: >Just wondering if anyone out there has gotten these two progams to "play nice" together under Linux 1.2.13 (or any other OS for that matter)? > I have done it under Irix5.3 (Pine 3.93) and it worked out very nicely. Although I do not use premail any more. To find out what I use now, please visit my web page (www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html). >if you have, please describe exactly what steps you took to arrive at such >a happy union... because I am at my wit's end here. > It is hard for us to guess what is wrong if you do not tell more about it. I remember that one has to make the perl script executable, preferrably by you only (for security), and you have to enter your own ID in the script before using it, or the default name will be used and cause you a lot of confusion. I remember that premail can chain the email through remailers to hide your identity in addition to PGP operations. It is very handy for those who want to avoid persecutions while doing constructive things, or to spam some open mailing lists, threatening, insulting, or trick other people, or newsgroups for any or no reason. I tested this feature but never found a use for it so far. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. Cincinnati - Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 == == Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = www.uc.edu/~yuanj = using Knews == == finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu for my PGP pub. key= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09461; Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13260; Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:13:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13254; Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:13:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTsVD-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Dustman Subject: Re: pine 3.93 with premail 0.43 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:11:12 -0400 Message-Id: <31BEEC20.4DFFA0EB@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu> References: <19960611233908.aaaa006pC@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit lv426@alpha.c2.org wrote: > > Just wondering if anyone out there has gotten these two progams to "play nice" together under Linux 1.2.13 (or any other OS for that matter)? > > if you have, please describe exactly what steps you took to arrive at such a happy union... because I am at my wit's end here. > > info on premail can be found at http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html I did exactly what it said to do in the premail release notes: You have to set the sendmail-path variable in your .pinerc (you *cannot* set it within pine's configuration screen; it isn't there) to the path of your premail with some options for to be passed to the real sendmail. After that, you will need to configure customized-hdrs in pine to include some of the headers that premail wants: Sign, Chain, Anon-From, Anon-Reply-To appear to be the relevant ones, but I have only used Sign and Chain so far. You will need to use the Rich Header command (^R) in the header when composing. The release notes *are* a bit vague on how to decode. The easiest way is to pipe (|) to the command "premail -decode". I have only been using premail for a few days and it makes life with PGP a lot easier. FYI, this is under Linux 2.0, but should work as well under 1.2.13. -- Andy Dustman / Computational Center for Molecular Structure and Design / UGA ===== For PGP public key: finger andy@neptune.chem.uga.edu | pgp -fka ===== Sure, the Telecomm Act will create jobs: 100,000 new thought-cops on the net http://charon.chem.uga.edu/~andy mailto:andy@CCMSD.chem.uga.edu <}+++< From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15778; Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:06:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01488; Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:03:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01482; Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:03:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTuDV-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: How to setup Pine for News??? Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:23:39 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4pmb20$9m5@Venus.mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4pmb20$9m5@Venus.mcs.com> > I need some help with setting up my Pine configuration file so I can use > it for reading news groups. I have read documentation on Pine and tried > to set it up with no luck. There is something I'm doing wrong. I don't know, what are you doing? >I know the server that has the news on it at work but can't seem to >figure it out. This is a good start. Have you tried to enter the server name in the nntp-server feild in the configuration screen in pine? ( M (main), S (setup), C (configure); arrow down to NNTP-SERVER A (add), then type in the name of the server. Then when you are in the folder list screen you should have a seperate folder collection named news collection. Type S (subscribe) and choose the groups that you want to subscribe to. Hope this helped!!! Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20415; Wed, 12 Jun 96 12:27:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03966; Wed, 12 Jun 96 12:22:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alcor.Concordia.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03960; Wed, 12 Jun 96 12:22:06 -0700 Received: (from zlu@localhost) by alcor.concordia.ca (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA17332; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:22:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:22:03 -0400 (EDT) From: ZHAOLU LU To: comp.mail.pine@alcor.concordia.ca, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Address Book Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir/Madam, Could you please tell me how to transfer the address book to a PC and use it in another mainframe. Best regards, Zhaolu Lu Department of Philosophy Concordia University 7141 Sherbrooke St. W Montreal, Quebec H4B 1R6 (O) (514) 848-2511 Fax: (514) 848-2515 (H): (514) 369-0169 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26567; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:12:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21835; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:09:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21827; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:09:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTx5L-00038TC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Harold Todd Chapman Subject: How to debug Pine/Sendmail connection????? Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:50:37 -0400 Message-Id: <31BF036D.41C6@oakland.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to figure out why my Sendmail rules work when I use the mail program but not when I use Pine. How can I log the interaction between these programs and how can I get a complete log of every email transaction including address rewrites? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28196; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:50:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08053; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:39:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08047; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:39:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTxcm-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us (John Davis) Subject: Does Pine support POP3 or not?? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:33:28 GMT I seem to be getting conflicting signals as to whether Pine 3.93 supports POP3 or not? I am running PC-Pine. I didn't think it did, but then I've seen articles posted to this newsgroup that showed folks using a hostname of the form {hostname/pop3}. I tried this and it didn't work. I'd love to use PC-Pine as my main mail program but with IMAP it is totally worthless. I have access to three different ISP's and none of them support IMAP. All support POP3 though. ============================================================================= John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com Cary, North Carolina http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ ============================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28377; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:54:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22904; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22898; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:49:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTxjx-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) Subject: Re: How to import a list into addressbook Date: 12 Jun 1996 20:54:23 GMT Message-Id: <4pnapv$e0h@news.ios.com> References: <4pdfg8$g7n@news.ios.com> <4pdm4h$b8s@nunki.usc.edu> Vladimir V. Piterbarg wrote: >wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) writes: >>In 3.91, when trying to add entries to a list, I cannot see how a file >>such as: >>john@aol.com, >>mary@aol.com, >>bob@aol.com >>...can be imported into the list. When I try the add-to-list function, >>it seems to only want to add a single address at a time. Am I correct? >I once had a similar problem. What I did is wrote the list directly into the >addressbook. If you haven't changed the name, it is called .addressbook. It is >just a plain text file, so you can edit it (with little care to preserve >the structure). Start creating list in pine, add 2 or three addresses, then >exit pine and start pico on .addressbook (or whatever you addresbook is called). >Find the place where you list starts, and include (^R in pico) your separate >file with the list you want >in there. Pay special attention to separators. Good luck Isn't this unusually difficult, since some form of a nickname must also be added to each entry? Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28947; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08450; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:53:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08444; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:53:54 -0700 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA129644; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:48:06 -0500 Received: from localhost by Cookie.secapl.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA82055; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:53:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:53:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Carla Golden To: Harold Todd Chapman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribing In-Reply-To: <31BF036D.41C6@oakland.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I unsubscribe??/ On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Harold Todd Chapman wrote: > I am trying to figure out why my Sendmail rules work when I use the mail > program but not when I use Pine. How can I log the interaction between > these programs and how can I get a complete log of every email > transaction including address rewrites? > > Thanks. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28970; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08604; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:59:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08598; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:59:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTxsk-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Reinsfelt Subject: multiple signtures Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:50:44 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to use more than just the .signature file as signature. Is it possible to make pine pick randomly amongst signature files? and if so, how do i configure it to do that? Please reply to solus@solus.com since i won't be able to access this newsgroup.. thanks. Chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01266; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:37:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24249; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:34:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24239; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:34:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTyS5-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rosemann@clark.net (Curt Rosemann) Subject: PC Pine and Trumpet? Date: 12 Jun 1996 20:57:41 GMT Message-Id: <4pnb05$irg@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is anyone using PC Pine with Trumpet on a Lan? Pine always says it cannot find host. PC Pine works well with Tropic's TCP/IP winsock. All other programs seem to work fine with Tumpet. (Netscape, Ewan, Eudora, etc.) Any help would be appreciated. Curt Rosemann rosemann@clark.net -- _____________________________________________________________ Curtis O. Rosemann From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03129; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:15:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10688; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10682; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:09:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uTz1L-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Beth Peterson Subject: Re: View-header in config menu Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:18:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Are you talking about the enable-full header-cmd or actually the viewer-hdrs? the viewer-hdrs is located at the bottom of the feature list but befor the the saved-msg-name-rule etc... defaults. On 10 Jun 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > First, a hint... > > If you can see/find something in the Configuration screen use the Where > (W) command to search for a string, just as you can in a message or index > screen. > > In particular doing a "W header" takes you straight to the option called > "enable-full-header-cmd". (Then typing a "?" or "^G" displays help about > this feature.) > > Having turned on this option you can then use the now-available "H" > command when viewing a message (or in the Index screen). > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Paul E Kayak wrote: > > > > > Where is the view-header option in config menu? > > > > > > > > > > Beth Peterson bethp@fnal Physics Department From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03361; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:19:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10871; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10863; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:14:37 -0700 Received: from bart.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20809; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:14:36 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by bart.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17925; Wed, 12 Jun 96 16:14:35 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:14:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does Pine support POP3 or not?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, PC-Pine does not yet support POP. (Unix Pine can access a POP server in quasi-online mode, but not in offline mode, as POP was designed for.) -teg On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, John Davis wrote: > I seem to be getting conflicting signals as to whether Pine 3.93 supports > POP3 or not? I am running PC-Pine. I didn't think it did, but then I've seen > articles posted to this newsgroup that showed folks using a hostname of the > form {hostname/pop3}. I tried this and it didn't work. I'd love to use > PC-Pine as my main mail program but with IMAP it is totally worthless. I have > access to three different ISP's and none of them support IMAP. All support > POP3 though. > > ============================================================================= > John Davis jbdavis@osbm9.osbm.state.nc.us/jbdavis@pobox.com > Cary, North Carolina http://www.webbuild.com/~jbdavis/ > ============================================================================= > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09667; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:22:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28718; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:19:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28712; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:19:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU1wD-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Bussell" Subject: signature files Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 21:56:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I would like to have two signature files to choose from. How do I go about making them and then retrieving them into my messages? Janene Bussell Department of Psychology JBUSSE01@.fiu.edu Florida International University (305) 348-3941 University Park, Miami, FL 33199 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10310; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14717; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14711; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:40:05 -0700 Received: from [203.231.32.4] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10280; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:39:51 -0700 Received: from global.vlanic.co.kr ([203.231.32.16]) by sun.vlanic.co.kr. (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00252; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:37:07 --900 Received: by global.vlanic.co.kr with Microsoft Mail id <01BB591C.B7217480@global.vlanic.co.kr>; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:37:34 +0900 Message-Id: <01BB591C.B7217480@global.vlanic.co.kr> From: =?EUC-KR?B?sejH9sO2?= To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:37:23 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 11 subscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10334; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:42:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28984; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:37:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [203.243.250.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28978; Wed, 12 Jun 96 19:37:18 -0700 Received: from global.vlanic.co.kr ([150.150.69.183]) by Global.vlanic.co.kr (8.6.12H1/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28340 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:36:09 +0900 Message-Id: <31BF7E55.3F87@vlanic.co.kr> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:35:02 +0900 From: Kim Hyun Cheol Organization: LG Information & Communications, Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b3Gold (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11316; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:27:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15241; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:24:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15235; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:24:31 -0700 Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu (tcosta@leucs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.195.14]) by leucs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA09379; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:25:42 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Costa To: lv426@alpha.c2.org Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.93 with premail 0.43 In-Reply-To: <19960611233908.aaaa006pC@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is it that is giving you problems? I was able to setup Pine 3.91 and Linux 1.2.13 rather nicely, with one small problem that I am not sure is really Pine's fault. With my current in house SMTP gateway I cannot reply where the From: is picked up. I getan error like no recipients to reply to! This seams to be caused by the fact that there is an X-Status value that precedes the From: header. Anyone know how to configure Pine to compensate for this? Thanks, On 11 Jun 1996 lv426@alpha.c2.org wrote: > Just wondering if anyone out there has gotten these two progams to "play nice" together under Linux 1.2.13 (or any other OS for that matter)? > > if you have, please describe exactly what steps you took to arrive at such a happy union... because I am at my wit's end here. > > info on premail can be found at http://www.c2.org/~raph/premail.html > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11428; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:31:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15315; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15309; Wed, 12 Jun 96 20:29:16 -0700 Received: from leucs.med.cornell.edu (tcosta@leucs.med.cornell.edu [140.251.195.14]) by leucs.med.cornell.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA09385; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:30:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:30:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Tony Costa To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Jeffrey Liu , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Make a REPLY-TO Field? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, Is there any settings and in which file woud it be stored to compensate for From: being written later in the header, than it would normally apear? I have a problem with a SMTP gateway that it adds some internal X-Status junk before the From: header and Pine can't read it so it cannot not find the return address for a reply. But the interesting thing is that elm works fine. Any idea's? Thanks, On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You can add the "Reply-To" (and any other) custom header by: > > 1. Start Pine. > 2. At the Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen by typing "S" > then "C". > 3. Move the highlight down to the "customized-hdrs" item. > 4. Read its help by typing "?" > 5. Exit the help screen and follow its instructions. :-) > > Cheers, > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 11 Jun 1996, Jeffrey Liu wrote: > > > Hey all... > > > > I use pop mail. Since I dial in to retrieve my mail, as much as I > > would love to send mail through pine, I can't because I cannot set my > > return address. My return address is simply a bogus root@ or user@ > > my machine name. If there is a way to set a REPLY or REPLY-TO field > > in the header of my outgoing emails through the use of PINE (without > > editing Sendmail.cf) this would be appreciated. Thanks! :) > > > > Please email me back as I do not have the fortune of reading > > newsgroups everyday :) > > -- > > JEFF :O > > Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13712; Wed, 12 Jun 96 21:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16346; Wed, 12 Jun 96 21:40:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16340; Wed, 12 Jun 96 21:40:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU4Az-00038BC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 21:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pmurphy@callamer.com (Patrick J. Murphy) Subject: Post anonymously. How? Date: 12 Jun 1996 19:54:02 GMT Message-Id: <4pn78q$28g@twizzler.callamer.com> Hello, If I want to post a question to a newsgroup such as alt.psychology.mistake, is it possible to do that using pine? Patrick Murphy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15169; Wed, 12 Jun 96 22:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17136; Wed, 12 Jun 96 22:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16821; Wed, 12 Jun 96 22:18:33 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16815; Wed, 12 Jun 96 22:18:31 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 22:18:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Seibel To: Pine Release Announcment List:; Subject: Pine and PC-Pine 3.94 now available Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 3.94. This release introduces few new features, but is intended to address many of the problems reported in previous versions. A more complete explanation of improvements is available via the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), or via: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine and: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs This release should be considerably more stable than previous versions, but, as always, you should satisfy yourself that this is the case in your particular environment before introducing it (or any release) into a production setting. Pine version 3.94 source is available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz PC-Pine in available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine and precompiled binaries for the various systems we have direct access to are available in: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin and ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/unix-bin-compressed Our thanks to everyone that has contributed to this effort by taking the time to send their suggestions and bug reports. We continue to welcome any and all comments! Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16068; Wed, 12 Jun 96 23:21:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02032; Wed, 12 Jun 96 23:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02026; Wed, 12 Jun 96 23:15:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU5cM-00038TC; Wed, 12 Jun 96 23:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cy888@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Thompson) Subject: automatic password entry Date: 13 Jun 1996 03:46:31 GMT Message-Id: <4po2un$kpv@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Is there any way of configuring PINE to automatically enter one's password when using PINE to read mail from a remote host using imap (or ?) protocol? I have checked the .pinerc file but nothing seems to do this function, not even the 'initial keystrokes list'...am I missing something obvious/ Thanks Paul -- Paul Thompson | Papa Hegel he say that all we learn from history is that we | learn nothing from history. I know people who can't learn from | what happened this morning. Hegel must have been taking the | long view. -The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17848; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03052; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03046; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU70k-00038VC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Signature placement Date: 11 Jun 1996 22:07:52 GMT Message-Id: References: lpage@u.washington.edu (Linda Page): > I monitor two email accounts, one on Homer and one on Carson. When I > respond to a message in Pine on Homer, the signature line is placed above > the old message and below where the new message goes. This is the way it > should be. When I do the same thing in Pine on Carson, the signature > line goes at the end after the old message. Can you tell me what is wrong? Different admin setup files on different hosts? Different setup files for different accounts? Did you check your files? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17871; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:43:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18600; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18594; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU70f-00038UC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stamura@nexus.chapman.edu (BOSSMAN) Subject: Re: newbie question about receiving attachments Date: 13 Jun 1996 07:26:31 GMT Message-Id: <4pofr7$flh@news01.deltanet.com> References: In article , pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) says: > >Sending an attachment using Pine... > >1. Start your message (Compose, Reply, Forward, etc). > >2. Put cursor on the "Attchmnt:" header line at the top of the screen. > >3. Type ^G (Get help, as shown on menu at foot of screen). > >4. Read instructions. > >Cheers, > >Mike Brudenell >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK >Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > >On 6 Jun 1996, G. V. Palazzolo wrote: > >> I want to send an attachmet along with a message on PINE. How do I do >> this. I could not find an answer on the online help. >> >> gvp >> >> -- >> Knowledge is power. >> > While your at it, Mr Brudenell, can you tell this newbie how to view a attached file. Also, I can't seem to transfer WAVs and JPGs into my root directory. Thanks in advance, Seiji Tamura stamura@nexus.chapman.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17918; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:44:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18608; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18602; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uU70v-00038WC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 00:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stamura@nexus.chapman.edu (BOSSMAN) Subject: TRANSFER WAVs INTO ROOT DIR FROM PINE Date: 13 Jun 1996 07:30:58 GMT Message-Id: <4pog3i$flh@news01.deltanet.com> I can's seem to transfer WAVs and JPGs into my root directory from attached files in PINE. Can anyone help me? Thanks in advance. Seiji Tamura stamura@nexus.chapman.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18588; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:11:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03352; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:06:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03346; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:06:51 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:04:34 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10984; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:06:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:06:03 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: John Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does Pine support POP3 or not?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, John Davis wrote: > I seem to be getting conflicting signals as to whether Pine 3.93 supports > POP3 or not? I am running PC-Pine. I didn't think it did, but then I've seen > articles posted to this newsgroup that showed folks using a hostname of the > form {hostname/pop3}. I tried this and it didn't work. I'd love to use > PC-Pine as my main mail program but with IMAP it is totally worthless. I have > access to three different ISP's and none of them support IMAP. All support > POP3 though. I presume you don't *really* mean "but with IMAP it is totally worthless" -- you surely can't say this without having tried and tested the configuration. (We use IMAP here and it works _very_ well.) I think the weight should be on your following sentences instead. :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18698; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:13:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18988; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:09:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [203.135.0.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18982; Thu, 13 Jun 96 01:09:22 -0700 Received: by paknet1.ptc.pk; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/14Apr96-0132PM) id AA00582; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:10:04 +0500 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:10:04 +0500 Message-Id: <9606130810.AA00582@paknet1.ptc.pk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: X-Mailer: Lynx, Version 2.3 BETA X-Personal_Name: ahmed amin From: rehana@paknet1.ptc.pk Subject: AUTO MAIL FORWARD 2)USENET NEWS Hello I need your help too much. pls pls reply me 1)Is it possible in pine 3.91 that if someone send me a msg and pine will forward it to my other email no automatically. 2) I am connected to isp (paket1.ptc.pk) but it is not supporting NNTP . iS IT POSSIBLE IN PINE 3.91 THAT i READ NAD POST USENET on the server which is not supporting usenet news (nntp) pls pls reply ahmed amin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20440; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:15:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04111; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04101; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:09:28 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:06:59 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA24482; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:08:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:08:22 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Christian Reinsfelt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: multiple signtures In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, there is no option in Pine to do this. If this is REALLY inportant to you (heaven knows why!) then either... * Store your signatures in files with short (eg, one letter) names which can be included manually in the message text using the ^R command or * Investigate the new "sending-filters" feature in Pine 3.93 which is designed as a means of giving you a "hook" into the sending process. (I'm sure the first person to come up with a decent random signature includer filter will earn the undying gratitude of those to whome such things are important.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Christian Reinsfelt wrote: > I want to use more than just the .signature file as signature. Is it > possible to make pine pick randomly amongst signature files? and if so, > how do i configure it to do that? > > Please reply to solus@solus.com since i won't be able to access this > newsgroup.. thanks. > > Chris > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20513; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:18:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19791; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:13:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19785; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:13:27 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:10:31 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA25242; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:11:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:11:17 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tony Costa Cc: Jeffrey Liu , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Make a REPLY-TO Field? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your best bet is to send a sample problem message (complete with headers) to the Pine Team for comment... I was under the impression that Pine scanned ALL the headers of a message, and could find entries no matter which order they appear in. Make sure you don't have any blank lines within the list of headers (as this signifies "end of headers, start of body text". Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Tony Costa wrote: > Mike, > Is there any settings and in which file woud it be stored to compensate > for From: being written later in the header, than it would normally apear? > I have a problem with a SMTP gateway that it adds some internal X-Status > junk before the From: header and Pine can't read it so it cannot not find > the return address for a reply. But the interesting thing is that elm > works fine. > Any idea's? > Thanks, > > On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > You can add the "Reply-To" (and any other) custom header by: > > > > 1. Start Pine. > > 2. At the Main Menu go to the Setup Configuration screen by typing "S" > > then "C". > > 3. Move the highlight down to the "customized-hdrs" item. > > 4. Read its help by typing "?" > > 5. Exit the help screen and follow its instructions. :-) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mike Brudenell > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > > > On 11 Jun 1996, Jeffrey Liu wrote: > > > > > Hey all... > > > > > > I use pop mail. Since I dial in to retrieve my mail, as much as I > > > would love to send mail through pine, I can't because I cannot set my > > > return address. My return address is simply a bogus root@ or user@ > > > my machine name. If there is a way to set a REPLY or REPLY-TO field > > > in the header of my outgoing emails through the use of PINE (without > > > editing Sendmail.cf) this would be appreciated. Thanks! :) > > > > > > Please email me back as I do not have the fortune of reading > > > newsgroups everyday :) > > > -- > > > JEFF :O > > > Jeffrey_Liu@brown.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20805; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:34:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19935; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:24:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19929; Thu, 13 Jun 96 02:24:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:21:10 +0100 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA27755; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:21:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:21:41 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell To: Paul Thompson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatic password entry In-Reply-To: <4po2un$kpv@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What most people really want when they ask this method is a way of "pre-authenticating" to the IMAP server. This is certainly possible for UNIX Pine providing your server is set up appropriately. (Can anyone comment on PC-Pine?) The steps are: 1. On the computer running the IMAP server... a) Make a symbolic link from /etc/rimapd to point to the real imapd executable. b) Set up your username so that the server trusts the computer you'll be running Pine on (by setting up a suitable .rhosts file for your username *on the mail server*). This then lets you use "rsh" from the named computer to the IMAP server computer to run commands without having to supply a username/password (this is determined via the rsh mechanism itself). [IMPORTANT: if you get this wrong you can open a security hole to your username on the mail server; check with your local support desk on how to do this.] 2. On the computer you run Pine on... a) Test you got the .rhosts file set up properly by typing the following command: rsh imapserver.yoursite.yourdomain /etc/rimapd You SHOULD get a welcome banner line along the lines of: * PREAUTH mailer.york.ac.uk IMAP2bis Service 7.8(100) at Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:17:07 +0100 (BST) To which you should respond: A01 logout If you get prompted for a password then your .rhosts file is wrong. Other error messages should give a clue as to what is wrong (probably with the rsh mechanism or the symbolic link you set up). b) Try using Pine to open a mailbox using IMAP on your server. It should now open without prompting you for a username and password. [NOTE FOR SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS: Rather than expecting each user to set up a .rhosts file for themselves (and possibly getting it wrong!) consider using a "hosts.equiv" file to create a systemwide list of trusted hosts ... but make sure you consider the security implicartions first! :-] Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 13 Jun 1996, Paul Thompson wrote: > > Is there any way of configuring PINE to automatically enter > one's password when using PINE to read mail from a remote host > using imap (or ?) protocol? > > I have checked the .pinerc file but nothing seems to do this function, not even > the 'initial keystrokes list'...am I missing something obvious/ > > Thanks > Paul > -- > Paul Thompson | Papa Hegel he say that all we learn from history is that we > | learn nothing from history. I know people who can't learn from > | what happened this morning. Hegel must have been taking the > | long view. -The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23888; Thu, 13 Jun 96 04:19:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05789; Thu, 13 Jun 96 04:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05783; Thu, 13 Jun 96 04:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uUAMb-00038BC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 04:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cje2@york.ac.uk (Chris Elliott) Subject: Re: PC Pine and Trumpet? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:24:18 GMT Message-Id: <4poq91$q1a@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <4pnb05$irg@clarknet.clark.net> In article <4pnb05$irg@clarknet.clark.net>, rosemann@clark.net (Curt Rosemann) wrote: >Is anyone using PC Pine with Trumpet on a Lan? Pine always says it cannot >find host. > >PC Pine works well with Tropic's TCP/IP winsock. > >All other programs seem to work fine with Tumpet. (Netscape, Ewan, Eudora, >etc.) > >Any help would be appreciated. > > >Curt Rosemann >rosemann@clark.net > > Pine 3.93 fails to do the autodial on my pc at home; thought netscape and ws_ftp etc do start it OK chris From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27831; Thu, 13 Jun 96 07:20:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08069; Thu, 13 Jun 96 07:15:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hq.vni.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08063; Thu, 13 Jun 96 07:15:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.vni.net (8.6.9/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07836 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:15:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:15:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "Abort, Retry, Ignore, Fail?" To: pine-info Subject: Selecting from Addressbook In-Reply-To: <4poq91$q1a@netty.york.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Confirm-Reading-To: highway@vni.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the old version (3.91), I was able to select names (^T) in the addressbook from "group listing". In version 3.93, I'm not able to do so? Was there a reason why that feature was taken out and if not, how do I reactive that feature? "The fate of billions all depend on you... heh heh heh ... sorry." - Rayden --------------------------------------------------------------------------- John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net highway@wam.umd.edu (Epsilon Mu) http://www.vni.net/~highway http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (World Wide Web Developer) (Home of NBC Friends WEB Page) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Chapter Treasurer - Fall 1996] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00560; Thu, 13 Jun 96 08:30:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09609; Thu, 13 Jun 96 08:25:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from comoro.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09603; Thu, 13 Jun 96 08:25:33 -0700 Received: from rgeater.arts-geo.yorku.ca (rgeater.arts-geo.yorku.ca [130.63.214.224]) by comoro.yorku.ca (8.6.12/8.6.11) with SMTP id LAA74589 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:25:32 -0400 Message-Id: <31C05D18.1AAF@yorku.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:25:28 -0700 From: Rick Geater Organization: York University X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Save mail to A:\example.txt X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00119.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've seen alot of info on how to save to this folder and that folder, but how do I save to the C:\ or a:\ as a ".txt" file. "e" does not do it and "v" & "s" does not do it. This should be easy, but I can't figure it out??? Rick... rgeater@yorku.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08111; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:56:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13510; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:52:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13504; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:52:02 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25999; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:51:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:51:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: "Bryan H." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to import a list into addressbook In-Reply-To: <4pnapv$e0h@news.ios.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jun 1996, Bryan H. wrote: > Vladimir V. Piterbarg wrote: > >wriite@soho.ios.com (Bryan H.) writes: > > > >>In 3.91, when trying to add entries to a list, I cannot see how a file > >>such as: > > >>john@aol.com, > >>mary@aol.com, > >>bob@aol.com > > >>...can be imported into the list. When I try the add-to-list function, > >>it seems to only want to add a single address at a time. Am I correct? > > > [deleted] > > Isn't this unusually difficult, since some form of a nickname must also > be added to each entry? Editing the actual .addressbook isn't too difficult in this case. Each entry in the list is just an address, and they are separated by commas. Another way to solve this problem is to get pine 3.94 and mail yourself the file in the body of a message. Then the Take command will let you add all the addresses to a list at once. (I think this was in 3.92 and 3.93, too, but if you're getting one of those you should get 3.94 instead.) Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10142; Thu, 13 Jun 96 11:18:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00386; Thu, 13 Jun 96 11:16:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00380; Thu, 13 Jun 96 11:16:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uUGt0-00038TC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 11:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tranhu@JSP.UMontreal.CA (TRAN Huu Da) Subject: Re: automatic password entry Date: 13 Jun 1996 10:52:47 GMT Message-Id: <4portv$d2b@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <4po2un$kpv@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Un jour, Paul Thompson (cy888@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) a spiculi sur: | Is there any way of configuring PINE to automatically enter one's | password when using PINE to read mail from a remote host using imap (or | ?) protocol? Would you really want PINE to keep your passwd somewhere? In a text file perhaps? (".pinerc"). I believe it's a security issue. __________________________________________________________________________ TRAN, Huu Da mailto:tranhu@jsp.umontreal.ca B.Sc info (2e année) http://www.jsp.umontreal.ca/~tranhu/ Université de Montréal http://libertel.montreal.qc.ca/~tranhu/ -----> C'est sûrement pas l'université qui partage mes opinions <----- On n'arrive jamais aussi loin que lorsqu'on ne sait où on va. -- Goethe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15524; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17036; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:46:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17030; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:46:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0uUIJA-00038BC; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: R R Neuswanger Subject: de-dupe addressbook? Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:46:16 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way (other than slugging through by hand) to check my addressbook for duplicate entries, particularly with different nicknames? And if I do it the hard way, alphabetizing by surname and then paging through, how do I avoid deleting the wrong one? I may have either or both nicknames in two or three lists each. Paging through lots of them for each duplicate name would really be a drag! R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) Help Mother Nature Library of Congress keep her balance: buy a Washington, DC 20540-4120 neo-redneck some ammo! rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15636; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:51:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17106; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netra.soft.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17092; Thu, 13 Jun 96 12:49:24 -0700 Received: from stpb.soft.net by netra.soft.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA06608; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:15:48 +0500 Received: from samar.sas.soft.net (sas.sas.soft.net) by stpb.soft.net (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA16907; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:10:36 +0500 Received: from sassun20.sas.soft.net (sassun20 [164.164.56.20]) by samar.sas.soft.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id BAA01488 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:20:26 +0500 Received: from sassun12.soft.net (sassun12 [164.164.56.12]) by sassun20.sas.soft.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id BAA19824 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:21:36 +0500 (GMT+0500) Received: from localhost by sassun12.soft.net (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id BAA01730; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:53 -0500 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:53 -0500 (GMT) From: Ravi Krishna X-Sender: ravik@sassun12 Reply-To: Ravi Krishna To: Pine Information List Subject: Address lookup for customized headers. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have two customized headers --- Reply-To: and Return-Receipt-To:. When I type an addressbook nickname in the Reply-To field, Pine (3.94) expands it. But this expansion doesn't occur for the Return-Receipt-To field. How does Pine decide which customized headers qualify for addressbook lookups? (BTW, the above behaviour is what I want. The previous version of Pine expanded Return-Receipt-To also, which caused problems.) -- Ravi Krishna , Fri Jun 14 01:17:06 GMT 1996 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20846; Thu, 13 Jun 96 14:31:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19753; Thu, 13 Jun 96 14:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ginch.dial.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.04/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19747; Thu, 13 Jun 96 14:25:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (cerberus@localhost) by ginch.dial.umd.edu (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA03291 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:25:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:25:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Cerberus To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Cannot open file for writing. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Linux, slackware 3.0.0, compiled pine 3.93 from the pine.tar.gz on ftp.cac.washington.edu. The program itself works like a charm, lots of speedups, enhancements, better configuration options than 3.91. GREAT work guys. My users and I love it. But - I get a "Cannot open file for writing" in the message-status bar when I compose mail. Here is a copy of the most recent .pine-debug1 . Any help would be appreciated. I read over the .pine-debug1 file, but I don't see anything that could be wrong/broken. If I've blatently over-looked something, let me know, loudly if necessary :) Thanks! -dave .pine-debug1 -- Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.93 Thu Jun 13 16:05:05 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Read 11022 characters: reading_pinerc "/home/cerberus/.pinerc" Read 14286 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Read 0 characters: ======= Current_val options set ======= inbox-path : inbox incoming-folders : from_cerb inbox/in.from_cerb : humour inbox/in.humour : shadow inbox/in.shadow : Linux-ISP inbox/in.linux_isp : WordSmith inbox/inbox.wordsmith folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-tab-completion : save-will-not-delete : save-will-advance : signature-at-bottom : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-implicitly : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : show-selected-in-boldface : select-without-confirm : use-current-dir : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation initial-keystroke-li : i saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-l