From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 01:18:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28940; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:18:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15944; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:06:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15938; Wed, 1 Nov 95 01:06:11 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA05853 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:06:01 +0100 Received: from pulsar by ciint.ciint.nl id aa04904; 1 Nov 95 9:58 WET Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 08:55:48 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: John Treloar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Out of free storage In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, John Treloar wrote: > I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a > large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text > part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message. > > Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to > be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration. > > Thanks in anticipation. :-) Hi John, Are you sure that you've not truly run out of memory? (RAM + swap space). Pine will report the "Out of free storage" message only if it fails to obtain free memory (using malloc()). Just run "free" on another terminal at about the time Pine is to display the message "Out of free storage" and check the amount of free memory left. If you're running short on memory you can (temporary) obtain additional swap space by letting Linux swap into a regular file. Checkout the command "swapon" for more info. > ______________________________________________________________________________ > John R. Treloar > SBSS Pty. Ltd., PO Box 130 Bendigo Australia. > +61 54 424322 fax:+61 54 432847 > johnt@sbss.com.au http://www.sbss.com.au/ > ______________________________________________________________________________ Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 02:14:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00916; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13755; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:07:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13749; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:07:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAa0D-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 02:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spatlan@gp807.jsc.nasa.gov (Steve Patlan) Subject: Re: Question Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:25:22 GMT Message-Id: <475t72$d0r@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: > "Mark A. Wille" writes: > How does one upload a file to his/her directory, where then he/she can > attach it? Thank you very much for your help. Well, first you plug your cellular modem into the cigarette lighter of your '74 Plymouth RoadRunner, connect it to your PowerBook 540, and then you insert your Zip cartridge and select "Upload" from the Apple menu. Easy. Then you tell us a little more about what kind of computer and software and connection you are using before asking such a silly question. If you're using Zterm (or the like) on a Mac, you would use the "send files zmodem" option under the File menu. You must make sure that you have correctly configured your System type (Unix/Opus). Of course, I'm just assuming that "rz" is available on MCS. (Which should be a safe assumption.) Zterm issues the "rz" command for you. This might not be true of all comm programs. If it's not true for you, you manually enter "rz" before sending the file. If you're using a Dos or Windows comm program, you select the appropriate file transfer option with the appropriate keystroke or menu command. If you're telnetting into MCS, use the appropriate ftp client for your platform. "Fetch" on the Mac, "WinFTP" or "WSFtp" on the PC. - Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 03:20:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03690; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:20:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18031; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:12:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18025; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:12:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAb3F-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu Subject: Glimpse Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:12:13 GMT The EXMH mail application uses "glimpse" to do full text indexing on all saved mail messages. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 04:12:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05480; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:12:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15950; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:02:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15944; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:02:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAbre-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phred@ling.umu.se (Fredrick Backman) Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc Date: 1 Nov 1995 07:55:06 GMT Message-Id: <47794q$h03@studium.student.umu.se> References: In article 100000@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de, Ralf Wenzel writes: >Hi! > >My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the >printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to >print. > >Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't >know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that >pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the >name of that file? I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc: personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx (I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/) You must, however, specify the printer number x. I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly. /Phred --- .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. .. -. .- ...- .- -.-. ..- ..- -- ... ..- -.-. -.- ... Fredrick Backman. Research Engineer, handsome, smart, athletic, and modest!! Dept of Linguistics, Umea University, 901 87 Umea, Sweden. phred@ling.umu.se URL: Phone: +46-90-165676 Fax: +46-90-133162 "Take a stress pill and think things over." -Hal9000 "Don't Panic!" -HHGTTG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 04:56:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06518; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:56:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16896; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:50:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16883; Wed, 1 Nov 95 04:49:49 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:11 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA22023; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:56 GMT Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:44:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Fredrick Backman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc In-Reply-To: <47794q$h03@studium.student.umu.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you check the helpful text underneath where you set this up (Start Pine 3.91, type S for setup, then P for printer) you will see you need to give a command that the message is *piped* into.... there is no filename involved. So as long as the user's "/za/prx" program can accept text piped into it, instead of just a filename on the command line then the necessary command is just "/za/prx". Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Nov 1995, Fredrick Backman wrote: > In article 100000@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de, Ralf Wenzel writes: > >Hi! > > > >My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the > >printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to > >print. > > > >Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't > >know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that > >pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the > >name of that file? > > I really don't know if there is a temporary file, but perhaps you don't need > it to solve the problem. I would suggest you put this line in your .pinerc: > > personal-print-command=cat - | /za/prx > > (I guess it's supposed to be /za/prx and not /za/prx/) > You must, however, specify the printer number x. > > I believe "cat -" is necessary, though it may seem a bit silly. > > > /Phred > > --- > .-.. .. ...- .. -. --. .. -. .- ...- .- -.-. ..- ..- -- ... ..- -.-. -.- ... > Fredrick Backman. Research Engineer, handsome, smart, athletic, and modest!! > Dept of Linguistics, Umea University, 901 87 Umea, Sweden. phred@ling.umu.se > URL: Phone: +46-90-165676 Fax: +46-90-133162 > "Take a stress pill and think things over." -Hal9000 "Don't Panic!" -HHGTTG > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 05:13:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06926; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:13:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19859; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:07:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19853; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:07:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAcp3-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfp10@sarah.albany.edu (D Parsons) Subject: Installing Pine on SUN Sparc5 Solaris 2.3 Date: 31 Oct 1995 19:06:34 GMT Message-Id: <475s3q$hq1@rebecca.albany.edu> I downloaded pine3.91.tar.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu but have not been able to finish its installation. The documentation is ambiguous about porting versions. The file /doc/pine-ports was absent from the tar file. Since therewere makefiles with extensions of .sol and .sun I tried 'build sol' and 'build sun'. Both of these aborted with several complaints about an absent 'default.mk' file. Can anyone tell me where to find a source file that does indeed work with Solaris2.3. Thanks, Don -- Donald F. Parsons MD, Wadsworth Ctr, The Telemedicine Office (Rm D224A) PO Box 509, Albany, NY 12201-0509. (518)474-7047 Fax: (518)474-7992 dfp10@csc.albany.edu; dfp10@health.state.ny.us Moderator: hspnet-l@health.state.ny.us (Design & Operation of Clinical Nets) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 06:32:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08533; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:32:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18160; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:22:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18154; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:22:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAe1I-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: [Q] Personal Print command in .pinerc Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:55:03 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! My personal print command is "/za/prx/ filename", x ist the number of the printer I want to use, the filename is the name of the file I want to print. Now the Question: How I can set THAT print command in my .pinerc, I don't know how I can tell pine, that there has to be a filename. I think that pine save the file to print in a temporary file--but what might be the name of that file? (Pine 3.91 for UNIX SVR4) Please send a Cc of your answer to me (mail), thanks a lot in advance Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 06:51:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09039; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:51:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21084; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21078; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:37:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAeEe-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 06:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cnielsen@lonepeak.vii.com (Christian Nielsen) Subject: Re: please help Date: 1 Nov 1995 00:47:34 GMT Message-Id: <476g36$7ab@lonepeak.vii.com> References: <475jku$m35@kasey.umkc.edu> <475s5p$mm7@guava.epix.net> You might want to check your config # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc= Jonathan and DearOldDad (jgvd@news.epix.net) wrote: : svreddy@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: : : can anyone tell me how I can set a folder in the config setting of pine to keep a copy of the mail I send...in other words a sent-mail folder : : Thanks ina dvance : : Sridhar...svreddy@cstp.umkc.edu : Hhmmmm ... sent-mail (as well as INBOX and saved-messages) is one of the : three default folders in pine. Either you've been playing with your : setup config thingy, or your sys admin has disabled it, or ... I give up : ... anyone else? : /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> : John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! : Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ : Thought for the day: Rappers are cool; Line wrappers are hot; G'Day -- Chrsitian Nielsen cnielsen@vii.com,CN46,KB7HAP Vyzynz International Inc. 801-568-0999 PS :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 07:46:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10695; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:46:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22152; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:37:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22132; Wed, 1 Nov 95 07:36:50 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA19271 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:36:48 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 16:29:07 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: PC-PINE + UUPC Possible ? Message-Id: Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF Address: Oranjelaan 40 City: 3135 ZP Vlaardingen Country: The Netherlands Voice: +31 10 4600411 Fax: +31 10 4342857 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine for a couple of months on SCO Unix and OpenServer. Because we have some travelling notebook's running Kendra's UUPC with a standard mail.exe, I wanted to change the MUA to PC-Pine. I have on hand "pcpine_[fnpsw].zip" but as far as I can see, do they all need access to a remote INBOX, and I like to work on a local file like $MAIL. Can someone give me a hint ? --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 09:10:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14890; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:10:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21321; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:57:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21315; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:57:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAgQ9-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 08:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:25:55 GMT Message-Id: <476lrj$6m3@hera.cuci.nl> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> Anders Waller wrote: >On 23 Oct 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: >> Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From". >> It should be "^From: ", though. >> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". >Correct...Been playing some with egrep, seems the following works, havent >tested it much yet though...Im sure theres some case whereas it doesnt >work. >alias from 'more $MAILPATH | egrep "^From: | ^From " If you have procmail/formail installed, try: alias from 'formail -x From: -s <$MAILPATH' This *does* skip "included non-quoted mails". -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). In this signature, the concluding three words `were left out'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 09:21:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15479; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:21:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24645; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24639; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09:23 -0800 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0tAgf9-0009BjC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 09:09 PST Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa21664; 1 Nov 95 9:07 PST Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:07:39 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Hansen To: Pine Info List Subject: Eudora messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in the index listing in Pine 3.91? I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't seem to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers turned on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a solution? Thanks, -- Dave Hansen dave@wfsg.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 11:26:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22153; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:26:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25373; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:17:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25367; Wed, 1 Nov 95 11:17:02 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id MAA00374 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:57 -0700 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (hsong@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA43894 for ; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:56 -0700 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id MAA200896; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:16:48 -0700 (MST) From: H Song X-Sender: hsong@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: university address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom ever can help me, I am currently trying to get a hold of my cousin in the university of texas . I have not been able to get a holdof her so that she could clarify what exacltly her address is . So far all I got from her is"*(her identity which I will not disclose)*@.utexas.edu". As you might already know this is not the address of the university of texas . Can you give it to me ? I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much appreciated and welcomed . Thanks for your help, hsong University of Alberta (Canada) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:10:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24753; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26768; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:03:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26762; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:03:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAjKS-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Date: 1 Nov 1995 02:27:39 GMT Message-Id: <476lur$am0@guava.epix.net> References: Tom I Helbekkmo (tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO) wrote: ... lottsa stuff including ... : and so on. I'm not sure what sort of query language would be best, ... etc etc etc ... : keyboard shortcuts, of course -- single key commands for the most ... etc etc ... : Comments, anyone? Try $ to sort. Tallyho! G'Day! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:21:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25230; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:21:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27074; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27066; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:10:49 -0800 Received: from ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu by ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (PMDF V4.3-9 #5889) id <01HX4SSYN4BA8Y2ZG4@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu>; Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:00:35 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 15:00:35 -0500 (EST) From: V094J3A3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Subject: How do u Personalize your name on pine? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? Please give me a step by step way of doing it. Thanks, Jeff Walter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 12:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26122; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:40:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00344; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:33:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00338; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:33:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAjn6-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 12:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: james knight Subject: three how-to questions Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:09:37 -0800 Message-Id: References: <475jku$m35@kasey.umkc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: good evening all.. i would like to know, if possible, how i might go about: 1. setting up an auto save before replying - trying to keep all communications back and forth in the appropriate fcc folders. 2. getting the news reader side to fcc to the list name rather than the individual authors. same trick on saves. 3. dealing with incoming mail from abc@xyz.com that needs to be routed back to a different address (or addresses) on reply. i can do all these things manually, just wondering if i am missing something that would allow me to make any of them automatic.. thanks in advance, etc, jamesk@wimsey.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:02:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00743; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:02:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29807; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:48:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29801; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:48:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAkyb-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macplan@embratel.net.br (Fernando Pinho) Subject: Simple mail server administrator - help Date: 1 Nov 1995 10:35:58 GMT Message-Id: <477iie$sgd@rjo02.embratel.net.br> I'm looking for a shareware program to implement a mail server to suport a mail service at my local net and for Internet with a single dial-up access. Does it possible ? If you know anything to help me please, email me ok ? Thanks in advance From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:05:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00864; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02618; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:53:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02612; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:53:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAl54-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 13:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "...not fade away!!" Subject: Headers & keystrokes... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:36:26 -0500 Is it possible to bind a header field to a keystroke? (ie: To: header goes to address book when ^T is pressed) Thanks in advance! Jim McConnell jkm7670@hertz.njit.edu ============================================================================= "The grass ain't greener, The wine ain't sweeter, Either side of the hill..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:16:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01663; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:16:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02992; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02983; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlIC-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brown@engin.swarthmore.edu (Andrew Brown) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:00:09 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cancel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:17:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01696; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:17:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00400; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00394; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:08:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlHz-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Subject: Detecting headers in folders Date: 1 Nov 1995 04:36:43 GMT Message-Id: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> I have the following problem: How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could contain blank lines. I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting the start of each header. Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out there know how? Thanks Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:22:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02083; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:22:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00562; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00556; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlLo-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:11:25 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell to download or use the cat command. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:30:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02375; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:30:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00736; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00724; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:20:18 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:20 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:20:04 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> from "Graham Minchin" at Nov 1, 95 04:36:43 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 719 Quoting Graham Minchin: > I have the following problem: > How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages > saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? > I'm writing a program to go through these folders and remove most of the > fields from the headers, but I don't know of a reliable way of detecting > the start of each header. > Obviously Pine can do it, does anyone out there know how? Mail headers are described by RFC0822. If you just need a simple utility to weed away some header lines where it does not matter whether the header lines are inside other mails then you can take a look at the "weedout.sed" at http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/scripts Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:30:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02481; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:30:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03158; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03150; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:13:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlLo-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 23:05:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Mark A. Wille wrote: > I would also like to know how to do this function. > > On Sat, 28 Oct 1995, Marty Hood wrote: > > > How do you do it? > > How do you do! Well, one way is to export (function E) to a file on the host in your directory, then download to your PC. Or you can do a disk capture if your PC communication program has that function. If you disk capture, its better done from the exported file using the Unix cat command, that way you don't get all the Pine menu options as part of the message. I use a script (my communications program comes with one) to do all of this. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:48:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03090; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01321; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:42:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01315; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:42:10 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:42 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Rejecting incoming e-mail To: colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:42:05 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <46scpa$7i0@crl13.crl.com> from "Scott Matteson" at Oct 27, 95 09:49:46 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 265 Quoting Scott Matteson: > Does anyone know how to set Pine to reject all incoming mail messages? Pine does not receive the mail. It only looks at folders which are filled up by the programs which receives the email. => Pine does not have such a setting. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:49:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03141; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:49:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03927; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03921; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:40:18 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Wed, 1 Nov 95 23:40 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: rejecting e-mail To: n9243953@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Ryan C.) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:40:12 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ryan C." at Oct 24, 95 08:23:12 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 521 Quoting Ryan C.: > I was wondering if anyone has had any luck rejecting e-mail from a specific > address? Use a filter. ELM's filter allows this with a rule like this: if (from = address) then delete Sven -- ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ ELM versions: Latest release: ELM2.4PL24 [940920] Latest ME patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] Latest alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 14:57:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03392; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:57:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01444; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01438; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:48:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAlwf-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcheung@pelican.cs.ucla.edu (Dominic Cheung) Subject: Is there a unix based mail client supporting POP? Date: 25 Oct 1995 14:50:07 -0700 Message-Id: <46mbef$pm9@pelican.cs.ucla.edu> I would like to get info on any unix/X based client that support POP. Also is there a copy of the POP protocol on the net that I can fetch? Your help is greatly appreciated. Dominic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:13:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04260; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:13:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04262; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:58:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04256; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:58:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAm3g-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 14:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brown@engin.swarthmore.edu (Andrew Brown) Subject: Alterate Editors and SIGHUP Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:00:33 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are having some trouble on our HPUX system related to Pine and SIGHUP. When an alterate editor is open, PINE does not get the SIGHUP signal sent when the terminal is closed (it is apparently not supposed to). So, PINE stays open and keeps trying to reopen the editor, which succeeds or fails depending on the editor. Simply enabling the signal handler didn't solve the problem. So I substituted exit for the signal handler, and this naturally works, but not in a very nice way. Any ideas how we can get PINE to die when the terminal is closed and an alternate editor is being used? I don't know why signal handling was disabled while pine waits for the editor to finish, but I'll bet there is a reason. Either this could be changed and a handler that exits cleanly could be added, or pine could check to see if it's process group still exists, however that's done. Please e-mail replies to me, as I don't regularly read this group. Thanks, Andrew -- Andrew Brown Class of '97 Swarthmore College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:26:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04969; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:26:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04731; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:15:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04725; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:15:07 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:15 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Eudora messages To: dave@wfsg.com (Dave Hansen) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:15:02 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Dave Hansen" at Nov 1, 95 09:07:39 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 475 Quoting Dave Hansen: > Does anyone know why messages created in Eudora don't show proper dates in > the index listing in Pine 3.91? I've just noticed that Eudora doesn't seem > to add a "Date:" header. (at least I don't see one with Rich Headers turned > on) I guess this isn't Pine's fault but does anyone know of a solution? Could be a problem with the MTA which sends away the mails. I don't think that Eudora produces the faulty Date header. Just guessing here. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:31:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05328; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:31:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05066; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smarty.smart.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05056; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:24:05 -0800 Received: (hutchison@localhost) by smarty.smart.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01497; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:27:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:27:32 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Hutchison To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: Returned mail: User unknown (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:35 -0500 From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: hutchison@smart.net Subject: Returned mail: User unknown The original message was received at Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:27 -0500 from hutchison@localhost ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- sysop@cac.washington.edu (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mx2.cac.washington.edu.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 sysop@cac.washington.edu... User unknown ----- Original message follows ----- --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Return-Path: hutchison Received: (hutchison@localhost) by smarty.smart.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA05150; Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 20:11:22 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Hutchison To: sysop@e-books.com cc: sysop@cac.washington.edu Subject: your mes. to lee_hutchison@lastdx.blkcat.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for your message on bbs 'last dx'- i have my own e-mailer, now. That is an amateur radio bbs, and they don't allow netservers, so i was kind of embarrased to have what is in effect a listserver sending commercial msgrs. to them....but i just did want to thank you for the message you sent there. I am having all the messages from e-books sent to me (other msgrs. addressed as requested) so i should be able to get the information...thanks a lot! Lee C. W. Hutchison hutchison@smart.net 2700 Que Street, n.w. mailstop 246 washington, dc 20007 ---559023410-851401618-815188282=:4921-- --UAA05151.815188295/smarty.smart.net-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:49:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05958; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:49:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02973; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:39:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02965; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:39:28 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:39 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Bug (ID VI378): When Pine is killed ... To: kevinto@HK.Super.NET (K.T.) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:39:01 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, timchan@HK.Super.NET In-Reply-To: from "K.T." at Oct 27, 95 09:39:50 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1225 Quoting K.T.: > When one of our user using the modem, and connect to our server and using > pine (using pico as an editor) to send a email the connection is cut while > he writing the message. > At the previous time, he can retrieve the interuupted mail, and continue to > compose it. However, this time he couldn't retreive the mail. And he want > to know how he can retrieve back his mail. It all depends on whether he saved the mail when he wrote it. If he didn't save the mail when his editor dies the the changes are lost. Even though pine dies, your editor might still be running. In that case, the temporary file might still exist, too. So go and look for the temporary file. > He has typed this mail for 2 hrs. Too bad. I hope he saved the text once in a while. General rule: Whenever you don't want to retype what you did - save! > He also want to know why. This part is what we can't explain and need > your help. How should we know why he lost the connection? This is a local problem which you should find. > And he also want to know how to prevent the future occurrence. Tell him to compose mails offline and to transfer them when the mails is reading for being sent. That's always the best way. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 15:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06033; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05646; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:45:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05640; Wed, 1 Nov 95 15:45:33 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 2 Nov 95 00:45 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: phone numbers To: hoerning@cae.wisc.edu (Jeffrey Mark Hoerning) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 00:45:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199510242052.PAA12671@hp-150.cae.wisc.edu> from "Jeffrey Mark Hoerning" at Oct 24, 95 03:52:26 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 337 Quoting Jeffrey Mark Hoerning: > I would like to get the E-mail address of a faculty member. > Her name is Barbara Krieger-Brockett Dept of Chemical Engineering. Hey, this list isn't for looking up people! Ask postmaster@www.chem.wisc.edu or take a look at their www server. First rule: Ask locally! Don't bother mailing lists! Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 16:38:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08351; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:38:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04172; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:18:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04166; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:18:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnKv-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gostin@blue.crayola.cse.psu.edu (Jeffrey S Gostin) Subject: Pine 3.90 and Visible/Audible bells Date: 1 Nov 1995 06:50:35 GMT Message-Id: <4775br$s37@psuvax1.cse.psu.edu> Hi! I'm using Pine 3.90 on Ultrix 4.4, under TCSH 6.00.02. I've set up my TERMCAP so that the system uses visible bells, not audible ones. To be more precise, I've appended ":vb=:" to the end of my TERMCAP. However, I noticed when I used PINE this evening that it ignored that setting, beeping loud and clear when I hit a wrong key. I'd like to find a way for PINE to obey the visible bells directive in my TERMCAP definition. Unless I missed something, there's no way to tell 3.90 to shut up. :-) Is there something I've missed? If not, I'd like to perhaps recommend that this feature be added to the 3.92 (or later) wishlist. Thanks, in advance, for any information or advice. :-) -- ======== ======== "Information Superhighway" does for Internet == == what C.H.I.P.'s did for Cops. == == -= Destroy Ignorance -- Seek Higher Understanding ===== ======== Ask me for my PGP key. Privacy is your friend. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 17:12:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10535; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:12:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05191; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05185; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnxU-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Nov 1995 04: 36:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:45:42 GMT In article <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: How do I look through a Pine folder (containing headers and messages saved as text) and know where the header for each message starts? I know the end of each header is marked as a blank line, but you can't mark the start of a header like this because the message itself could contain blank lines. A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line following a blank line. Reading from the pine Tech Notes: Berkeley Mail Format This format comes to us from the ancient UNIX mail program, /bin/mail. (Note that this doesn't have anything to do with Berkeley, but we call it the Berkeley mail file format anyway.) This program was actually used to interactively read mail at one time, and is still used on many systems as the local delivery agent. In the Berkeley mail format, a folder is a simple text file. Each message (including the first) must start with a separator line which takes approximately the form: From juser@u.example.edu Wed Aug 11 14:32:33 1993 Each message ends with two blank lines. * There are actually several different varia- tions in the date part of the string, twenty at last count. * I think this should read "two newlines" -- i.e. _one_ blank line. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 17:22:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10951; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:22:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07540; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07520; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:59:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAnur-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 16:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Out of free storage Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 15:06:43 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I don't know if this is going to be right, or if it is even going to help you, but do you know what your disk space quota on your server is? I know mine is only 10MB and that fills up fast. Try checking to see if you have surpassed your quota. ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On 31 Oct 1995, John Treloar wrote: > I am running pine 3.91 on a linux server. I have recieved some mail with a > large binary MIME attachment (5MB). When I try to read it (to see the text > part and save the attachment) I get an 'Out of free storage' message. > > Is there a way of increasing the storage space or is this just too big to > be practical? I couldn't see any options in the setup configuration. > > Thanks in anticipation. :-) > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > John R. Treloar > SBSS Pty. Ltd., PO Box 130 Bendigo Australia. > +61 54 424322 fax:+61 54 432847 > johnt@sbss.com.au http://www.sbss.com.au/ > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:07:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12275; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:07:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08996; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:59:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08990; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:59:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAosR-00038EC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penguin@netcom.com (MUZAK) Subject: Seperate incoming folders... Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:32:46 GMT Since someone in my homehold ungraciously reads my PRIVATE email ALL the time. I can't get them to stop, so I have a question. Is there a way that (assuming my address is fatbob@gordo.com), someone can send a message to "secret.fatbob@gordo.com", it will go to my folder "Secret"? This would be kooler than kool. Or maybe there's a better solution that I'm not getting. (Yeah, I would use cryptography, but everyone I know is so lazy that they would just stop writting if I told them to encode the messages. Obviously, this would be a good message to respond to publicly. -- I'm Batman! uggg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:36:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13100; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:36:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07399; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:29:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07393; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:29:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApMv-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neald@morgan.com (Neal A. Dillman) Subject: RFD: comp.mail.imap Date: 1 Nov 1995 22:13:27 -0000 Message-Id: <815264005.13184@uunet.uu.net> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.mail.imap Newsgroup line: comp.mail.imap Internet Message Access Protocol discussion group. Proponent: Neal A. Dillman RATIONALE: comp.mail.imap Discussions of IMAP (Internet Message Access Protocol) currently take place accross ~nine different news groups. As a result, users are forced to read and/or post to a number of mail groups in order to acquire the desired information. Creating comp.mail.imap will limit the need for crossposting and create a central place for IMAP related discussion. CHARTER: comp.mail.imap To provide a forum for the discussion of IMAP, IMSP, and other protocols interacting with IMAP and IMSP. The discussion will include information about and/or relating to IMAP clients, servers, and "middleware." The group will not be moderated. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This message initiates a discussion period to consider the creation of a comp.mail.imap newsgroup. Discussion will take place on news.groups. If discussions are made in other newsgroups, they should always be cross-posted to news.groups. * This is not a call for votes. Please do not attempt to vote now. A call for votes (CFV) will we issued approximately 3 weeks after this RFD. When the CFV is posted, there will be instructions on how to mail your votes to the independant vote-taker. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is in accordance with the Guidelines for Newsgroups Creation, and has been cross-posted to the following relevant newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,comp.mail.headers,comp.mail.mime,comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.multi-media,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.winsock.mail, comp.mail,comp.mail.pine,news.groups From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:41:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13243; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:41:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09646; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dale.ucdavis.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09640; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:31:20 -0800 Received: by dale.ucdavis.edu (8.6.12/UCD3.4) id SAA23594; Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:31:19 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:31:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeffrey Herrera X-Sender: ez057525@dale.ucdavis.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Would someone please help me. There is a bug in my system and no one=20 that I've asked knows how to help. Whenever I'm in pine, =FD=ADcommands=20 occur on their own and letters pop up on the screen randomly. I can't=20 even write a sentence before something happens. All of a sudden I'll be=20 in help or in another folder without even pressing a button. Writing=20 this message alone has taken about half an hour because of all the problems= . Plese write back if you can help. Thank you very much. =09=09=09=09=09=09=09Jeff Herrera From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 18:51:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13470; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:51:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09850; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09844; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:39:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApWL-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Duempert Subject: PINE and the MAIL-environment-variable Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:47:39 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, 1. ELM makes use of the MAIL-environment-variable, i.e. at our site the path to a user's mail is determined during login by e.g. export MAIL=/net/rzserv0/usr/spool/mail By this means we're able to access a user's mail not only from ONE place, but ( as it is on my site ) at an arbitrary location in a multiserver- environment 2. To my knowledge PINE has a similar feature with the inbox-path= in the .pinerc-file. But this requires at least ONE PINE-Setup-run, which is not wanted for a novice user. 3. WANTED: If inbox-path='' then use the MAIL-environment-variable (if not empty) 4. QUESTION: Where is the right place to make the required mod(s) in the sources. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:11:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13881; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:11:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10238; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:04:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10232; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:04:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApuz-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:41:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Right... a little late :), but thanks anyway! ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On 28 Oct 1995, Dayong Liu wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Mark A. Wille wrote: > > > I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > > very much. > > > Just produce a .signature file in your home directory, in Unix. > > -- > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Dayong Liu | Department of Technical Physics > dyliu@hs651.ihip.pku.edu.cn | Peking University > http://hs651.ihip.pku.edu.cn/~dyliu | Beijing 100871, P. R. China > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:27:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14461; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:27:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07881; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:59:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07875; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:59:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tApnd-00038CC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 18:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward H Fenster Subject: PC-PINE Time Zone Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 17:01:05 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. My copy of PC-PINE is properly putting Eastern Standard Time on my outgoing messages; however, it is marking them Pacific Standard Time. For instace, if I mail a message 3 p.m. EST (-0500), it is marked 3 p.m. PST (-0800). This happens in both Windows 3.11, as well as Windows/NT, which is properly set for EST (-0500). Mail I compose on my computer using different software (NUPOP) is properly stamped. Does anybody know how to fix the time zone marking on my outbound mail, or for that matter where PC-PINE gets the current time zone from? Thanks Much! - Edward From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15082; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08465; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uniwa.uwa.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08455; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:33:42 -0800 Received: from tartarus.uwa.edu.au (tartarus.uwa.edu.au [130.95.128.3]) by uniwa.uwa.edu.au (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA25985; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:34 +0800 Received: (from gtminch@localhost) by tartarus.uwa.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.9) id LAA14467; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:32:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:32:59 +0800 (WST) From: Graham Minchin To: Sven Guckes Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 19:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15172; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08580; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:39:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08574; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:39:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAqSV-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 19:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whoppe@mccc.edu (Willard Hoppe CS131-5100 F95) Subject: Pine For MS Networks? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:33:15 GMT Is there a version of PINE that works on Microsoft networks? -b From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 20:27:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16240; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:27:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11340; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:14:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11334; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:14:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAqzs-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:50:19 -0600 Message-Id: References: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Ginny: You don't access it from Pine... you access it from pico. Hope this helps. ___________________________________________________________________ __Mark A. Wille_____________________World Wide Web_________________ __mwille@mcs.net______________http://www.mcs.net/~mwille___________ ___________________________________________________________________ On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Ginny Short wrote: > On 28 Oct 1995, Cassady Kent wrote: > > > Mark A. Wille (mwille@mcs.net) wrote: > > : I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > > : very much. > > > > Put whatever you want in a file named .signature (the initial dot is > > required) in your home directory. That works 99% of the time. If it > > doesn't, check your setup configuration menu within pine. > > > > Please give me more details in creating a signature. How do you access > the file from Pine to create the signature? > > ginny short > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 22:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18919; Wed, 1 Nov 95 22:05:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10867; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10861; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAsdm-00038DC; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Weihman Subject: Re: Pine Source code Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 09:36:48 -0500 Message-Id: <30978600.7E21@stpd001.gteds.gtenet.com> References: <471d1a$ffb@delphi.bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cravenja@cleo.bc.edu wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get the Pine source? ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine -- Stephen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 1 22:06:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18964; Wed, 1 Nov 95 22:06:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13090; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13078; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:59:01 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18699; Wed, 1 Nov 95 21:58:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:58:55 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Peter Duempert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and the MAIL-environment-variable In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You don't need to modify any code; just put the env. variable on the right side of the inbox-path variable in your system-wide pine.conf file. -teg On Wed, 1 Nov 1995, Peter Duempert wrote: > Hi, > 1. ELM makes use of the MAIL-environment-variable, i.e. at our site the > path to a user's mail is determined during login by e.g. > export MAIL=/net/rzserv0/usr/spool/mail > By this means we're able to access a user's mail not only from ONE place, > but ( as it is on my site ) at an arbitrary location in a multiserver- > environment > 2. To my knowledge PINE has a similar feature > with the > inbox-path= > in the .pinerc-file. > But this requires at least ONE PINE-Setup-run, which is not wanted for > a novice user. > 3. WANTED: If inbox-path='' then use the MAIL-environment-variable (if not > empty) > 4. QUESTION: Where is the right place to make the required mod(s) in the > sources. > Thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 01:47:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23865; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:47:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14120; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:43:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14092; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:39 -0800 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA16527; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:36:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 10:36:17 +0100 (MET) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Fernando Pinho Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Simple mail server administrator - help In-Reply-To: <477iie$sgd@rjo02.embratel.net.br> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Organizace: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?=DAstav_teorie_informace_a_automatizace_(=DATIA)_AV_=C8R?= Transport-Options: /delivery /return Read-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Receipt-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Return-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Chameleon-Read-To: vs@utia.cas.cz X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On 1 Nov 1995, Fernando Pinho wrote: > I'm looking for a shareware program to implement a mail > server to suport a mail service at my local net and > for Internet with a single dial-up access. >=20 > Does it possible ? >=20 > If you know anything to help me please, email me ok ? >=20 > Thanks in advance I think the easiest way to do it is SmartList package cooperating with procmail package--these packages are made by the same person and are easy to install. They can be downloaded from ftp.utia.cas.cz/pub/unix/. The original site is somewhere in Germany. Hope this helps. V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 01:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23905; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:48:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16358; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16352; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:40:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAw7J-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: luttrell@netcom.com (Jordan D. Luttrell) Subject: PC-Pine Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 04:47:53 GMT I use Pine right now on a Shell account via an Internet provider, Best.com, but I would like to use PC-Pine on my PC. What I would mainly like to do is compose messages off-line, as needed, then just upload them once or twice a day, whenever I go on-line. One of my PC's is at home; the other is at work, a bookshop, with five computers on a LanTastic network (but I access the Best.com Shell account directly from one of the workstations). I gather there are about 5 versions of PC-Pine; can I use one of these in my situation, and if so, which one? I would rather not use the Windows version, as I am working for the most part under DesqView and DOS 6.2, using QEMM as the memory manager. Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 02:18:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24545; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:18:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14509; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:15:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14503; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:15:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAwbv-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 02:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Searching body of messages Date: 1 Nov 1995 18:12:41 GMT Message-Id: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or mail folder. If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder collection. --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 03:12:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25625; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:12:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17435; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:05:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17429; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:05:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAxRc-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbasu@caltech.edu (Ramanuj Basu) Subject: Extra Page When Printing Using "attached-to-ansi" Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 19:00:59 GMT Message-Id: <478g4b$7h2@gap.cco.caltech.edu> I love the ability to print to my local printer, but I get a blank page ejected after every e-mail message I print from Pine using the "y" command and accepting "attached-to-ansi" as the printer. I'm using FTP Software's Windows(3.1)-based TNVT telnet program to connect directly to my shell account on a UNIX host. I've checked with FTP Software and they say there's no way to control the page eject through their program. Any thoughts or suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 03:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26673; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:52:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15609; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:44:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15603; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:43:58 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:15 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA08670; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:50 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 11:33:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You want to use the "Select" (";") command. First you must enable this by going to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). Turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" feature, then Exit (E) back to the Main Menu. In the Folder Index (the list summarising your messages) type: ; ...Select messages T ...based on a text item A ...all message text string ...the search string Return The selected messages get an "X" shown at the start of their entries. You can now do either or both of: Z ...Zoom the list down to just show the selected messages (another Z will unzoom it) or A ...to apply a command to all the selected messages You can cancel the list of selected messages by typing "; A" to unselect them all. (If none are selected this same sequence selects them all.) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > mail folder. > > If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able > to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the > message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder > collection. > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 04:03:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26981; Thu, 2 Nov 95 04:03:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15771; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:55:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15765; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:55:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAyC2-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 03:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hoyle@phys.unca.edu (Matt Hoyle) Subject: [Q] Setting up multiple address books Date: 1 Nov 1995 17:49:23 GMT Message-Id: <478bv3$3dm@balsam.unca.edu> Hello, :) Can someone give me a hint on setting up multiple address books? I'm using Pine 3.91 running on a Sun workstation. I looked all through pine's configuration file and in some of the help screens, but to no avail. I tried entering two filenames on the field address-book = < > in the config but that didn't work either. Please reply via email, and thanks in advance. :) Matt Hoyle physics major, classical music University of North Carolina aficianado(?), (thinks he can at Asheville play guitar), avid amateur astro- hoyle@phys.unca.edu nomer, and internet junkie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 05:59:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00185; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:59:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20018; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:50:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20012; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:50:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tAzzF-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 05:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: pre-created addressbook ? Date: 1 Nov 95 21:35:43 GMT Message-Id: I pre-create addressbook lists for faculty so that they may have a class list ready to go. The format I use is classname tab classname tab ("lastname, firstname" comma space space space "lastname, firstname" comma ... space space space "lastname, firstname" ) My instructions are just, download the file (the pile of them are in the gopher) then cat classname.pine >> .addressbook But sometimes it doesn't work. Returned messages are: Unbalanced '"' or Unbalanced '<' but the files are generated by a script so there are no unbalanced delimiters, and i've checked the files by hand too and they appear fine. (Yes i know, i've made sure that the tabs come down ok) So 1) is there a limit on the size of addressbook entries ? i don't think that this is my problem because one large class works fine, and a smaller one appears to be a problem 2) is it ok to use those dquote realname dquote entried what is the exact wanted addressbook format ? i don't wanna have to read the source code and what is the relationship with .addressbook.lu ? 3) is there some other obscure bug related to addressbooks 4) anyone else doing this I've considered removing the realname sections, but then its hard for a prof to try to matchup the usernames with their students when some leave the class or new ones enter. Yes i know that finger info will be added, but students like to put in funky names there so you don't actually get their real names. More info. Using pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5 -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 06:24:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00724; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:24:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17994; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:13:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starburst.cbl.cees.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17988; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:13:15 -0800 Received: (from pinelist@localhost) by starburst.cbl.cees.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA03336; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:13:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:13:14 -0500 (EST) From: Pine Discussion List To: Pine List Subject: Problems with pcpine 3.91 and sendmail 8.7.1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have the packet driver version of pcpine 3.91 connecting to a Sun SPARC 5 imap server running sendmail 8.7.1. When I try to send a message from pcpine, I get an error "Cant connect to mail server: " and the message is never sent. Is there some option I need to set in the sendmail.cf? Thanks in advance, Larry Lentner UMCEES/CBL Computer Center From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01742; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:07:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20859; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fred.Cary.mci.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20853; Thu, 2 Nov 95 06:47:43 -0800 Received: by fred.cary.mci.net (8.6.12/kaw-mci.net/feb95) id JAA02373; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:36:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:36:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Barton" X-Sender: dmbarton@fred.cary.mci.net To: Mike Brudenell , martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks a bunch to both of you! This solution works great! Do you know of a way to search all the mail in all the folders of a folder collection? I don't think pine does this yet, right? Regards, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > You want to use the "Select" (";") command. > > First you must enable this by going to the Setup Configuration screen (S > then C from the Main Menu). Turn on the "enable-aggregate-command-set" > feature, then Exit (E) back to the Main Menu. > > In the Folder Index (the list summarising your messages) type: > > ; ...Select messages > T ...based on a text item > A ...all message text > string ...the search string > Return > > The selected messages get an "X" shown at the start of their entries. > > You can now do either or both of: > > Z ...Zoom the list down to just show the selected > messages (another Z will unzoom it) > or > A ...to apply a command to all the selected messages > > You can cancel the list of selected messages by typing "; A" to unselect > them all. (If none are selected this same sequence selects them all.) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > > On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > > > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > > mail folder. > > > > If not, can I add this as yet-another requirement? I'd like to be able > > to specify to search subjects only, search all mail (including the body of the > > message) in a folder, and search all mail (including body) of a folder > > collection. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02365; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:29:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:21:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19116; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:20:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB1OA-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: a different editor than pico? Date: 2 Nov 95 14:11:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <46sjsb$8b5@cnct.com> lbi@netcom.com (lux) writes: >Cassady Kent (mlck@cnct.com) wrote: >: lux (lbi@netcom.com) wrote: >: : How do I arrange to use a different edit inside pine (like emacs)? >: : I see references to it being done in the faq I have from months ago, >: : but it doesn't mention how you go about doing it. >: You have to find the Editor = line in the configuration >: menu. From the Main Menu within Pine, type s for setup, c for >: configuration, and space down to the last page of the menu and select the >: Editor = line. >Okay, I did this. >: When no value is set for the alternate editor, Pine uses Pico. Use the Add >: Value command to change it to vi or emacs and maybe others for all I know. >: At this point, Pine still uses Pico. You have to find the >: enable-alternate-editor- lines on screen two of the configuration menu and >: pick one. Enable-alternate-editor-cmd allows you to run emacs only when >: you request it with the 'switch to alternate editor' command ^_. >At first I left this unset. >: Enable-alternate-editor-implicitly will run emacs automatically whenever >: you compose or edit a letter. >I set this, but still when I try to compose a letter pico comes up. >I also tried this with enable-alternate-editor-cmd set and pico comes up. >Did I miss something, or is there a way to use a different editor >(implicity and without the C-_ command thing)? >there is now a line in my .pinerc file which reads > features-list=enable-alternate-editor-implicitly >and another which reads > editor=emacs >but pico still gets used. Any ideas? Did you exit and restart pine? I have been using pine with jove since 3.91 came out. >thanks -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 07:34:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02534; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:34:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21568; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:31:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21562; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:30:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB1Zg-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 07:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elynch@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Edith Lynch) Subject: newsgroups Date: 1 Nov 1995 17:11:23 GMT Message-Id: <4789nr$5qk@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I was just wondering if anyone could give me a few suggestions on the best way to read newsgroups through pine. Thank you. -- Edith Lynch Memorial University of Newfoundland St. John's, NF, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 09:21:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07585; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:21:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21974; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:16:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21968; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:16:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB3EZ-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tyren@teleport.com (Shane DeSeranno) Subject: Auto-Fowarding? Date: 2 Nov 1995 16:59:56 GMT Message-Id: <47atec$h3j@maureen.teleport.com> Hello Everyone... I just wanted to ask if it's possible to 'auto-forward' my mail using Pine. That is, I have two accounts, but want all the mail to go to one. Is it possible? If you figure it out please e-mail me at: tyren@pacifier.com Please note: I won't be watching this newsgroup, so any reply into the newsgroup won't get to me. Thanx, Shane From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 09:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09787; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25117; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25090; Thu, 2 Nov 95 09:53:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:40:32 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA08447; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:41:10 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:41:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Daniel M. Barton" Cc: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi - You are correct... as far as I know Pine cannot (yet?) search all folders of a folder collection. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Daniel M. Barton wrote: > Thanks a bunch to both of you! This solution works great! > > Do you know of a way to search all the mail in all the folders of a > folder collection? I don't think pine does this yet, right? > > Regards, Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 10:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10610; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:14:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25556; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:06:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25550; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:06:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB40w-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) Subject: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: 1 Nov 1995 20:23:02 GMT Message-Id: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the sent-mail folder? Dale -- STEM~Net, Programmer Consultant dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca E-5035, Memorial University Voice: (709)737-8836 St. John's, NF, A1B 3X8 Fax: (709)737-2179 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 10:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12373; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:48:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24151; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:41:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24145; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:41:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB4Wu-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 10:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jacky.simpson@almac.co.uk (JACKY SIMPSON) Subject: credit cards Message-Id: <8B42589.12EC0029B9.uuout@almac.co.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 23:37:00 +0100 + INTRODUCING YOU TO A FREE VISA CARD facility WITHOUT any CREDIT checks If you are currently "black"listed by the national credit computers I can help you to get a new visa card---- NOBODY is refused. Tofind out how you can join this facility email me your email address and i will send you further information p.s You can make good money by in turn offering this facility to others in the same position thanks for your attention jacky jacky.simpson@almac.co.uk Jacky Simpson Jacky Simpson --- * 1st 2.00 * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 11:39:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15460; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:39:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27797; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:26:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27791; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:26:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB5EA-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 11:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:01:38 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On 1 Nov 1995, Dale Fraser wrote: > How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the > sent-mail folder? Delete the contents of the "Fcc:"-line in the header. Ralf From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:07:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20070; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:07:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet2.afn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00375; Thu, 2 Nov 95 12:59:59 -0800 Received: from navaho.eel.ufl.edu by freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (8.6.12/4.11) id PAA31770; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:59:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 15:57:12 -0500 (EST) From: Out of his mind X-Sender: amigagod@navaho.eel.ufl.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail In-Reply-To: <199511022050.AA177965423@sioux.eel.ufl.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Automatic digest processor wrote: > From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) > How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the > sent-mail folder? Go into (S)etup (C)onfig from the main menu, use the cursor arrow keys to get to "default-fcc". If it says , hit (A)dd and then ENTER to change it to . If a value is set, simply hit ENTER to change it, delete it to leave it blank, and it should say as well. ===== == Todd Vierling (tv@pobox.com): In cyberspace no one can hear you scream. == === Plug: I do freelance C/Perl *IX programming and WWW design. E-mail me === === Vierling's Law: The revolution won't be televised; it will be posted. === From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:20:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20572; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00970; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00964; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03015; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:11:21 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:11:18 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: MUZAK Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Seperate incoming folders... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The tmail delivery agent can accept a message to an address like fatbob+secret@gordo.com and deliver it to fatbob's secret folder. I think you do need to make some small changes to sendmail to ignore the "+secret" part of the address when deciding where to deliver to. Tmail is available in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 24 Oct 1995, MUZAK wrote: > Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 02:32:46 GMT > From: MUZAK > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Seperate incoming folders... > > Since someone in my homehold ungraciously reads my PRIVATE email ALL the time. > I can't get them to stop, so I have a question. Is there a > way that (assuming my address is fatbob@gordo.com), someone can send a > message to "secret.fatbob@gordo.com", it will go to my folder "Secret"? > This would be kooler than kool. Or maybe there's a better solution that > I'm not getting. (Yeah, I would use cryptography, but everyone I know is > so lazy that they would just stop writting if I told them to encode the > messages. Obviously, this would be a good message to respond to publicly. > > > -- > I'm Batman! uggg > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 13:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20786; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:25:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01192; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01186; Thu, 2 Nov 95 13:20:42 -0800 Received: (from wlinden@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id QAA28131; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:20:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 16:20:37 -0500 (EST) From: Will Linden To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Searching body of messages In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? "W" only searches the info that's in the index. The only way > I know to do it is to leave pine and grep through the mail directory or > mail folder. Use ";" for Select, "T" for Text, and "A" for entire message text, then enter the search string. Messages containing the string will be "selected". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:05:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22604; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:05:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02270; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:02:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:02:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB7gs-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gundam Subject: Problems with multiple nntp servers Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 14:53:31 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a novice user of Pine and I have a serious problem with the news support of that program. I have configured Pine to show News from two servers, but if I'm subscribed on one server, the newsgroup is shown also in the second! Is there a trick to split the newsgroup lists by servers? Thanks for all... ______ __ __ ______ ______ ______ _______ !------!!--!!--!!------!!------!!------!!-------! ! !---!! !! !! ! !! __ !! __ !! ! ! ! ! !!--!! !! !! ! !! !! !! !! !! !_! ! ! !! !! !! !! ! !! ^^ !! ^^ !! ! ! ! !______!!______!!___!__!!______!!__!!__!!__! !__! / E-Mail: zulli@gulliver.unian.it / /-----------------------------------------------/ / Try to Finger me... / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:39:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24532; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03159; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:33:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03153; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:33:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB86X-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Question: Is Kill Possible in Pine? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:48:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Charlie Channel wrote: > I'm getting undesired email and would like to kill it without ever > reading it. Is there any way to do that in Pine? > If you use a PC with a communications program that provides a script language, you can write a script to run the Pine commands to select and delete the undesired stuff (that is, if it has something distinguishing in the header or text). You may want to go into setup and enable the aggregate command function if you haven't done so already. This allows you to apply one command to all messages which meet the selection criteria. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25453; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:56:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01160; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01154; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8Mp-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bagwill@kangaroo.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Bagwill) Subject: Re: The FUTURE Power of PINE! Date: 2 Nov 1995 14:25:45 GMT Message-Id: <47akd9$3ln@dove.nist.gov> References: In article , tih@Hamartun.Priv.NO (Tom I Helbekkmo) writes: >blackda@freenet.scri.fsu.edu (Dave) writes: >Instead of folders, >I'd like to have an inverted text database with specific recognition >of header fields and inter-message referencing, Exmh has incorporated Glimpse indexing and searching. -- Bob Bagwill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 14:57:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25526; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:57:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03542; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03536; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:47:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8Mn-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 14:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerra@rose.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:17:22 -0500 Message-Id: <47ajti$4b1e@rose.muohio.edu> References: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Our you can just set the fcc variable in the .pinerc file accordingly: # default-fcc specifies where a copy of outgoing mail is saved. If this is # To suppress saving of outgoing mail, set: default-fcc="" default-fcc="" And it won't do it anymore. -Rob Powder (jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, : Dale Fraser wrote: : >How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the : >sent-mail folder? : I think there is no system configuration to prevent this. I'd like to be : proven wrong on this. : You have to delete the FCC: field everytime you send an e-mail ... : Eric -- -- Everything below this line is my signature, it is not directed at anyone Robert A. Pickering Jr. UNIX Software Specialist Miami Computing and Information Services pickerin@muohio.edu PGP key ID: 75CAFF7D 1995/05/09 PGP Fingerprint: B1 63 0C 09 D8 2E 5D 69 BB 61 A2 92 22 37 63 C3 "Most people, if they counted how many people swam across the river, would never think about building bridges." - Ronald Altman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 15:29:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27254; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:29:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04604; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:22:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04596; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:22:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB8vG-00038IC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: university address Date: 2 Nov 1995 04:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <479hlm$28g@guava.epix.net> References: H Song (hsong@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: : To whom ever can help me, : I am currently trying to get a hold of my cousin in the university of : texas . I have not been able to get a holdof her so that she could clarify : what exacltly her address is . So far all I got from her : is"*(her identity which I will not disclose)*@.utexas.edu". : As you might already know this is not the address of the university of : texas . Can you give it to me ? : I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much : appreciated and welcomed . Nope the @utexas.edu thingy is correct so far, but you have to be more specific about who you're looking for. 2 choices: 1 If you have full internet access try the following URL and search thru the hypertext forms (there are 20 plus people at utexas with the string 'song' in the name) http://www.utexas.edu/ 2 If you can't or don't know how to do that, send me private e-mail with more information about the person you are looking for, and I will write back to you. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ cc m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:13:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29937; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:13:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05652; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:59:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05646; Thu, 2 Nov 95 15:59:09 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 00:58 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Filtering? Is it possible? To: Brandon@byu.edu (Brandon) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 00:58:23 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <46qrsu$hkg@hamblin.math.byu.edu> from "Brandon" at Oct 27, 95 02:55:26 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 287 Quoting Brandon: > Is it possible to filter incoming email so that you can send or forward > a message to a new location? Yes, you can forward all mails with the "forward" mechanism. For more info take a look at page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/mail.forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00264; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:17:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:07:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03490; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:07:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tB9bp-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: awnbreel@panix.com (Michael Weholt) Subject: Re: university address Date: 1 Nov 1995 23:07:03 -0500 Message-Id: <479g57$i50@panix2.panix.com> References: ]---> In , ]---> H Song (hsong@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: > I suspect that the "@.utexas.edu" part is wrong . It would be much > appreciated and welcomed . Try a domain of: @mail.utexas.edu I checked the University of Texas homepage/email directory, ran a search on some dummy names, and all the email addresses used the above domain. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Michael Weholt Calm Sea & awnbreel@panix.com a Prosperous Voyage http://www.panix.com/~awnbreel/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:23:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00537; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:23:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03780; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:14:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03773; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:14:34 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:13 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How to redirect incoming mail To: aaron@irdu.nus.sg (Aaron Aw) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:13:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Aaron Aw" at Oct 30, 95 09:55:49 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 619 Quoting Aaron Aw: > Does anyone know how to redirect incoming mail to different folders? > I understand that we need to use the filter program or some others. Yes, a "filter" is the program used to deal with incoming mail. This is independent to the "mailer" (mail user agent to be exact) you use, ie it does not matter whether you use Pine, Elm, whatever to read your mail. Elm comes with a simple to use filter named "filter". If it is installed on your system then just follow these instructions: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html There is also a link to the "Filter FAQ" and more. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:47:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01955; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:47:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07017; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07011; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:44 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:41 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Auto-Fowarding? To: tyren@teleport.com (Shane DeSeranno), tyren@pacifier.com Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 01:41:53 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine Information) In-Reply-To: <47atec$h3j@maureen.teleport.com> from "Shane DeSeranno" at Nov 2, 95 04:59:56 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 251 Quoting Shane DeSeranno: > I just wanted to ask if it's possible to 'auto-forward' my mail using Pine. > That is, I have two accounts, but want all the mail to go to one. Read this: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/mail.forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 16:48:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02010; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:48:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06994; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06988; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:42:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBACT-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Don Miller Subject: PINE 3.91/3.92 and nntp 'pinging' Date: 2 Nov 1995 01:00:01 GMT Message-Id: <47956h$es6@mark.ucdavis.edu> Greetings, all: We have PINE 3.91 running on a sparc (Solaris 2.3), using a remote newsfeed, and the following problem has arisen: When a user has the expanded-view-of-folders option toggled on, and has a news collection which points to the remote nntp server, then every time they open PINE, even just their INBOX or another local mail file, PINE keeps establishing connections to the nntp-server, presumably to keep updating the list of subscribed newsgroups. Since most users check their e-mail far more often than they use the news services, is there a way to suppress this, or alternatively to have the program allow them to select expanded-view-of-folders for their Mail collection ONLY? (Most of them seem to find it confusing to have to expand the folder each time they look at an index...). If this isn't possible in 3.91, any hope it might be available in 3.92 or a future release? Thanks in advance for any information you may have on this. Don Miller < dmiller@jfku.jfku.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 17:12:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04020; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:12:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05163; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05157; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBAVc-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Powder) Subject: Re: Stop copying to sent-mail Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:38:56 GMT References: <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> In article <478kv6$9sv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, Dale Fraser wrote: >How can I stop Pine 3.91 from appending a copy of each mail message sent to the >sent-mail folder? I think there is no system configuration to prevent this. I'd like to be proven wrong on this. You have to delete the FCC: field everytime you send an e-mail ... Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 17:13:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04081; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:13:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07525; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07519; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:02:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBAVe-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Powder) Subject: Re: How do u Personalize your name on pine? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:41:56 GMT References: In article , wrote: >I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? >Please give me a step by step way of doing it. If you're in UNIX, you can personalize your real name by entering "chfn" or "password -f" at the UNIX prompt. If you're not using UNIX or don't want to change the real name in your UNIX account, then change Pine --- press S and C at Pine's main menu. Then press A to add a value to the field "personal-name". Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 18:30:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06697; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:30:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07061; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07055; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:27:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBBoB-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: How To Change From: Field in Header Date: 2 Nov 1995 02:02:22 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4721ob$d3u@cocoa.brown.edu> The easiest solution is to use a "Reply-To:" customized header. There are other options available for changing your actual FROM line, but they require the ability to recompile pine and/or edit sendmail. If you are interested, e-mail me. Jerry On 30 Oct 1995, Michael J. Weiss wrote: > Hi, I usually send email from several accounts. I would like all outgoing > messages sent with Pine to appear as if they were sent from my email > alias, mjw@pobox.com. How can I do this? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 18:57:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07299; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:57:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10040; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10034; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:52:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBCDV-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 18:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Darren Stone Subject: 50 line display? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:05:16 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me to see a good sized screenful of info. Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line display that only fills half my screen. HELP! ------------------+------------------------------------------+--------------- Darren Stone | Frisbeetarianism, n.: | __/\ Vancouver, B.C. | The belief that when you die, your soul | _o / \ \__ stoned@wimsey.com | goes up on the roof and gets stuck. __O>O_/ 89FJ600 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:05:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08956; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:05:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08698; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:02:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08686; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:02:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBDJ2-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: could use some more help please:) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:06:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI, I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the webb using this system. Can anyone help? Thanks again, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09986; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11801; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:37:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11795; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:37:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBDpO-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aq957@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Lane A. Smith) Subject: Deleting a range of messages Message-Id: Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 22:48:01 GMT Forgive my ignorance, but can someone please tell me how to delete a range of messages in PINE? Also, is there a FAQ for this group? Thanks, lane -- "Interjections!! show excitement!! or emotion!! (and are generally set aside in a sentence by an exclamation point, or by a comma when the feeling's not as strong.)" Grammar Rock, ABC-TV c. 1973 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:49:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10153; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:49:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09455; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09449; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBE2N-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Donald Sitompul Subject: [Q]: Don't show empty newsgroups and... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 06:12:48 GMT Hello pine experts, many times when I enter to a newsgroup and after waiting a couple seconds, the newsgroup turned out to be empty. Anyone knows how to show only unempty newgroups? Also, how to stop adding new newsgroups when I starts pine? Thank you very much. -Donald Sitompul sitompul@cs.umn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 20:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10312; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:56:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09553; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:54:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09547; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:53:59 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:53 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) To: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:53:49 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu" at Nov 2, 95 06:06:39 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 583 Quoting jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu: > I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. > Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. > However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the web using this system. Pine is not a web browser. Well, not yet. ;-) You could, however, request web pages via email requests. Here is an example: header: To: webmail@curia.ucc.ie Subject: anytext body: go http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ I am only reproducing this from a post. I have never verified it. But I will try it right away. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:02:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10497; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:02:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12171; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12165; Thu, 2 Nov 95 20:59:57 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: 50 line display? To: stoned@vanbc.wimsey.com (Darren Stone) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 05:59:50 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Darren Stone" at Nov 2, 95 09:05:16 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 863 Quoting Darren Stone: > Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me > to see a good sized screenful of info. > Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line > display that only fills half my screen. HELP! To cite a recent (very recent!) post to this list: From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) Subject: Re: Screen size in Pine on Unix Date: 30 Oct 1995 14:22:10 GMT [...] Got an answer. I had to type "stty rows 42" to get the rest of the programs to recognize the screen size. As far as the rest, I run Procomm Plus 2.01 for DOS. I find that occasionally I have to type - to do a "Reset Terminal" in Procomm when Pine had set the terminal lines to 22 or 24. Now all works well! Summary: Try "stty rows 50" at you shell and then start Pine again from that shell. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:22:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11013; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:22:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12512; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:17:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12506; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:17:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBERS-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Davy Cheung Subject: Re: Just-send-8? Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:07:38 +0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello Mr Erlingsson, As I found that I can't send you my reply, let me post here. Hope you don't mind... ==Forward==> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 09:01:22 +0800 (HKT) From: Davy Cheung To: Leif Erlingsson cc: Leif Erlingsson Subject: Re: Just-send-8? Hello, On Mon, 23 Oct 1995, Leif Erlingsson wrote: > > Is there any method to make Pine 3.91 to post with 8-bit directly? > > Ahhhhh, I found the patch here at work. Here goes........ Oh! Thanks a lot for your great help!! Regards, Davy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 21:51:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11854; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:51:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10421; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10415; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBExQ-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 21:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jblake@binghamton.edu (Jim Blake) Subject: Setting my user-id in Unix Pine Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 14:51:33 -0400 Message-Id: I'm trying to figure something out -- it's probably something simple that I'm overlooking. I've decided to swallow my pride and beg for help from the cogniscenti. We're using an IMAP server on campus, and I have a mailbox there with the id of 'jblake'. I'm reading my mail using PC-Pine sometimes, and other times from a Unix system (SunOS) where my id is 'jim'. I can read my IMAP mail just by specifying the INBOX path correctly. But when I send mail, I want it to appear to come from 'jblake', and I can't seem to make that happen. PC-Pine accepts a parameter for "user-id=jblake". I specify that and my domain, and voila!, the mail I send appears to come from jblake@binghamton.edu. Unix Pine, on the other hand, does not recognize the "user-id" parameter, and though I twist and turn and set environment variables until I get tired, my mail still appears to come from jim#binghamton.edu -- which is not a valid address! I know of other people on campus who have this problem also; some using SunOS and some using Solaris. Any suggestions will be appreciated. jb -- Jim Blake Binghamton, NY 13902-6000 Assistant Director jblake@binghamton.edu Binghamton University Computing Services (607)777-2095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 22:32:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12859; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:32:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13624; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:28:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13618; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:28:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBFZZ-00038EC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: PGP & Pine Date: 25 Oct 1995 20:21:24 -0400 Message-Id: <46mka4$kv7@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: Davy Cheung writes: >On Sat, 21 Oct 1995, krzysiek wrote: >> Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.6, a Pine/PGP interface. >Just curious... Where to find? Any version for PC-Pine? For information on mkpgp, use the following command: finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu To get a copy of mkpgp, send a blank email message to: slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with: Subject: mkpgp It is written in csh, though (a Unix shell language), so it will definitely not run on a PC for PC-Pine. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information using the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 2 22:45:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13122; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:45:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11258; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:43:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11252; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:43:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBFoE-00038DC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 22:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Searching body of messages Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:47:19 -0500 Message-Id: References: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <478dap$r6@news.internetmci.com> On 1 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Is there any way in pine to search the body of the messages for a text > string? " ; t a " then enter string. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 01:45:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16898; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:45:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16719; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16709; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:33:03 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:31:06 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA07911; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:32:02 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:32:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Donald Sitompul Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q]: Don't show empty newsgroups and... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can't stop them being *shown* (after all, you *have* subscribed to them). But what you *can* do is press the Tab key. This moves you to the next New message in the current newsgroup. If there isn't one it offers to keep searching through newsgroups (skipping empty ones) until it fins one. If there are no more it offers to return you to the INBOX. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Donald Sitompul wrote: > Hello pine experts, many times when I enter to a newsgroup and after > waiting a couple seconds, the newsgroup turned out to be empty. Anyone > knows how to show only unempty newgroups? Also, how to stop adding new > newsgroups when I starts pine? Thank you very much. > > -Donald Sitompul > sitompul@cs.umn.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 02:12:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17374; Fri, 3 Nov 95 02:12:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17015; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:58:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17009; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:58:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBIp0-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 01:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsse@inffour.com (Jun-Seong Park) Subject: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? Date: 26 Oct 1995 06:27:03 GMT Message-Id: <46n9nn$4n4@usenet.hana.nm.kr> I cannot type 8bit characters in the "Subject" field. From the source programs, I got to know only 7bit characters can be displyed in header fields. The related file is composer.c which is located in pine3.91/pine. Anyone who can help me solve this problem? Thanks for your kind attention. Jun-Seong Park Korea Telecom S/W Research Lab. e-mail : jsse@inffour.kotel.co.kr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 04:01:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19537; Fri, 3 Nov 95 04:01:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15840; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:48:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15834; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:48:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBKZp-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 03:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 12:09:38 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Phil Tompkins wrote: > Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell > to download or use the cat command. > Phil You seem to be referring to using Pine on Unix or some sort of Unix-like system. In that case, Ctrl-Z should get you out to the shell. Use 'fg' (foreground) to resume Pine. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 05:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21916; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:12:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19784; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:04:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19778; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:04:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBLmI-00038EC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Running PGP from Pine Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:11:45 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46nk1k$891@esanews.denet.dk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 26 Oct 1995, Martin Kofoed wrote: > Hi! > > This question probably has been up several times, but I just added this > group today. Yup. It is, but it is a good question. > Are there any ways to get Pine to encrypt a message using PGP? I'm > running Pine on a Ultrix system (DEC) There are several shell scripts that do exactly what you want. One is mkpgp which you can find out about by sending mail to shlutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (with subject "mkpgp" I think). Another, editpgp is available on the main UK pgp ftp site: ftp.ox.ac.uk in /pub/crypto/pgp. Look in the utils directory there. There is also something called BAP (Bryce's Auto PGP), I'm not sure exactly where that can be gotten. All of these work by setting them up as your "external editor". Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 754 200 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i iQCVAgUBMI/U+hu6nIqxqP+5AQGMsgP9ED9RksLWngzLgOYCFCELAWw53RSOOTw6 Ou5A2qiPbGrA+2qJPMoN9SCgEzg8ZgEOA2Vg1LWDa+WxQxksbNfzy0i2q/+2g++a XnxUXWmuq7BGIlW2s0Xz+KU6XsgmDPhqRyZ2SX5cWcaeXXtYV3MuR8R86NFnZHth 8e2dx34zW5I= =EI9Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 05:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22753; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:59:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17766; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:49:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17760; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:49:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBMR8-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 05:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tismo@unm.edu (Nick Carraway) Subject: querying for newmail Date: 2 Nov 1995 09:46:03 -0700 Message-Id: <47askb$4gb8@indus.unm.edu> I am using Pine for Unix and have two questions: (1) Is there a way to do "elm -z" at the system promt- this would check INBOX for messages and invoke Pine (pine -i) if so. (2) Is there a way to be notified when newmail arrives after login? Before I had 'newmail -i ' in .login to do this. Thanks for any help/pointers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 06:10:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22947; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:10:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20601; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:04:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20595; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:04:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBMiO-00038EC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 06:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au's message of 1 Nov 1995 19: 42:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:37:09 GMT In article gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From " line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as two messages. That's why many mail transport agents prepend '>' to lines starting with "From ". -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 09:39:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00531; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:39:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25132; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:32:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.primenet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25124; Fri, 3 Nov 95 09:32:35 -0800 Received: from usr6.primenet.com (root@usr6.primenet.com [198.68.32.16]) by mailhost1.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA16224; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:33:33 GMT Received: from Primenet.primenet.com (ip199.sna.primenet.com [204.212.53.199]) by usr6.primenet.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id KAA06262; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:32:32 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:32:32 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199511031732.KAA06262@usr6.primenet.com> X-Sender: dossdl@primenet.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David L. Doss" Subject: Unsubscribe the hard way I am so sorry to all you good readers to have to post this way: However 3 days ago I posted my unsubscribe correctly, received message that my request was forwarded to list-owner and waited. Yesterday, I specifically asked listowner to unsubscribe me, with explanation. No response. This now is a very brief request to the group, unfortunately. It is my next to last resort!!!!!!!!!!! UNSUBSCRIBE REPEAT: UNSUBSCRIBE ME ONCE AGAIN: UNSUBSCRIBE ME NOW CAN YOU HEAR ME? REMOVE MY NAME FROM YOUR LIST I hope it will no longer be necessary to shout, or to expand the length or frequency. Thank your for your prompt attention -(;>] >In article > >gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) writes: > > Hi! Thanks for your little pointer, but the problem is more the > detection of where each header starts. If the header is included in > other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) then I'd want to consider > it as just part of the message. > >I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From >" line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as >two messages. That's why many mail transport agents prepend '>' to >lines starting with "From ". >-- >Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 >/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his > heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and > the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ David L. Doss Anaheim Cal, USA "Freeway Vista" ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 10:49:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04029; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:49:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24996; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:44:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBR3s-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Trond Skog Subject: How to compile pine on hp-ux Date: 3 Nov 1995 13:02:57 GMT Message-Id: <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have downloded pine from ftp.cdrom.com. When I try to build pine, there is no hp-ux option. Can anyone please help me solve this problem. Trond Skog trond@tdps.telepost.no From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 11:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07285; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:46:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26796; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26790; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04241; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:40:33 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:40:31 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Jun-Seong Park Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? In-Reply-To: <46n9nn$4n4@usenet.hana.nm.kr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 8bit characters are not allowed in message headers without RFC1522-style encoding, which will not be supported in Pine until version 3.92. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Oct 1995, Jun-Seong Park wrote: > Date: 26 Oct 1995 06:27:03 GMT > From: Jun-Seong Park > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: How can 8bit characters be typed in "Subject" field? > > I cannot type 8bit characters in the "Subject" field. From the source > programs, I got to know only 7bit characters can be displyed in header > fields. The related file is composer.c which is located in pine3.91/pine. > Anyone who can help me solve this problem? Thanks for your kind attention. > > Jun-Seong Park > Korea Telecom S/W Research Lab. > e-mail : jsse@inffour.kotel.co.kr > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 12:19:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08705; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:19:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27667; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:13:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27661; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:13:29 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:12 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: querying for newmail To: tismo@unm.edu (Nick Carraway) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:12:28 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47askb$4gb8@indus.unm.edu> from "Nick Carraway" at Nov 2, 95 09:46:03 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 549 Quoting Nick Carraway: > I am using Pine for Unix and have two questions: > (1) Is there a way to do "elm -z" at the system promt- this would > check INBOX for messages and invoke Pine (pine -i) if so. >From the "ELM Reference Guide": "-z This causes Elm not to start if you don't have any mail," This should be equivalent to "size of mailbox is zero". Most shells have a text for this, eg for the zsh this would be: if [[ -s file ]]; then pine; else pine -i; fi I don't see a reason why elm should be used at all to start pine. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 12:23:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08816; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:23:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29916; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:19:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29908; Fri, 3 Nov 95 12:18:57 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:18 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 21:18:42 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Rick Troxel" at Nov 2, 95 06:37:09 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 543 Quoting Rick Troxel: > > If the header is included in other mail (ie if somebody mailed me a header) > > then I'd want to consider it as just part of the message. > I'm confident that your mail program won't! That is, an unescaped "From_" > line in the body of a message will cause your mailer to treat it as two > messages. So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not escape "From_" lines? Sven [too lazy to test] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 13:42:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12228; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:42:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02116; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02110; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBTkZ-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 13:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Alternate Editor? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:09:32 GMT How do I use the alternate editor? I've enabled it in my config, and specified the editor to be /usr/ucb/vi, but when I hit ^_, all it seems to do is a screen refresh, and prints "7 lines inserted" at the bottom. -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 16:26:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20451; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:26:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05016; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:20:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05010; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:20:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBWKz-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 16:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) Subject: Re: AFS-aware IMAP daemon? Date: 2 Nov 1995 21:42:05 GMT Message-Id: <47bdvd$sq3@news.iastate.edu> References: <46mbop$nm8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Trey Harris wrote: }I administer an email system with approximately 26,000 users, of which }several thousand are using IMAP. } ... At this time, we will be migrating our users to AFS. }At this time we anticipate using MIT Kerberos v4 for both AFS and SP }authentication (since both AFS and the SP are compatible with Kerberos v4 }but not with each other's proprietary Kerberos). However, we may end up }using the AFS kaserver for reasons of expediency. I don't think this }changes the answer to my question, though. ... }However, when an IMAP client makes a request for an archived mail folder }(such as the sent or saved messages), the daemon must get this information }from the user's home directory--which resides in AFS. }Now, if we use the Cyrus imapd, a plaintext login (such as Pine, }MailDrop, Siren Mail or Simeon Email use) will cause the imap daemon to }get a Kerberos ticket. } }This is where I get fuzzy, however. I believe that a Kerberos ticket is }necessary but not sufficient to grant a process access to the AFS }filespace. An AFS token is also required for a process to be able to }read and write to an AFS filesystem. Am I correct? Yes, but all you need to turn a ticket into a token is to get a copy of 'aklog' from MIT (at least, this works for us using the MIT Kerberos IV server, I can't speak to it working with AFS's kaserver). John -- John Hascall ``An ill-chosen word is the fool's messenger.'' Moderator, comp.unix.wizards Systems Software Engineer, ISU Comp Center + Ames, IA 50011 + 515/294-9551 My Homepage From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 18:08:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24829; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:08:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07565; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07559; Fri, 3 Nov 95 18:04:23 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA41406; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:59:59 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA236137 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:05:33 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:05:33 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: Sven Guckes Cc: Pine Information Subject: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I keep getting this error message. [400 No spce left on device writting logging article file ----throttling] Also, I do not see the newsgroup that i subscribed to. Can you help me with this, thanks a bunch. Carla From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 19:13:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26132; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:13:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10275; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post4.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10269; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:09:48 -0800 Received: from general3.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #7723) id <01HX7W6USL4W8XQ824@asu.edu>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 20:09:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from general3.asu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by general3.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA07486; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:09:39 -0700 Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 20:09:39 -0700 (MST) From: jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) In-Reply-To: X-Sender: jilmarie@general3.asu.edu To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Sorry! As you can tell I'm clueless! Okay, I've got to ask one more. What is a browser and how do I get/use one? Remember, I told you I didn't have a clue. Thanks all, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu: > > I sent out the message early in the week about windows for pine. > > Well, I'm starting to get used to Pine and really like it. > > However, I still can't figure out how to get on to the web using this system. > Pine is not a web browser. Well, not yet. ;-) > You could, however, request web pages via email requests. > > Here is an example: > > header: To: webmail@curia.ucc.ie > Subject: anytext > > body: go http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ > > I am only reproducing this from a post. > I have never verified it. But I will try it right away. > > Sven > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 19:13:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26150; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:13:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10300; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10292; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBYzk-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matteo Mainetti Subject: Untraceable Messages ? Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 18:29:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with my name and address and send it to whomever ?! Thanks in advance, \\|||// matteo @ @ | mainetti \_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:03:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26936; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:03:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09295; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:01:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09289; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:01:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBZid-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 19:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org (Vasilios L. Pilarinos) Subject: Re: Rejecting incoming e-mail Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:18:23 -0500 Message-Id: References: <46scpa$7i0@crl13.crl.com> In article , guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) wrote: >Quoting Scott Matteson: >> Does anyone know how to set Pine to reject all incoming mail messages? > >Pine does not receive the mail. It only looks at folders which are filled >up by the programs which receives the email. >=> Pine does not have such a setting. > >Sven The best thing to do is make a .forward file which directs procmail to delete all the messages. Either that, or go in /var/spool/mail and make a symbolic link for to /dev/null. :-) -Me -- _ _ _ __ __ __| |_ __ _| |_(_)__ | Vasilios L. Pilarinos [vpilarin@gsusa.org] \ \/ /_(_-< _/ _` | _| / _| | Network Administrator : GSUSA.ORG & ML.ORG /_/\_(_)__/\__\__,_|\__|_\__| | http://www.gsusa.org/~vpilarin/ - #hellas! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:25:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27476; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:25:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11329; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:21:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11323; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:21:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBa3i-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cravenja@cleo.bc.edu Subject: Compiling Pine in Windows Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 19:01:11 GMT Message-Id: <47dop9$nhg@delphi.bc.edu> Does anyone out there know how to compile Pine 3.91 in Windows using Borland C++ 4.5? If so, how? I would greatly appreciate any help. John Craven cravenja@cleo.bc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 20:39:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27783; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:39:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09823; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09817; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:36:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBaIY-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 20:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ludwik@dorsai.dorsai.org (Ludwik) Subject: How do I download e-mail to my hard disk? Help. Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 00:57:15 GMT I need to download some clipart from my pine news. I don't know how to do it. Can someone help me? Thanks. Lu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:03:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28224; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:03:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11912; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:01:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11906; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:01:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBaiN-00038HC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marty Brenneis Subject: Multiple PC-Pine users on 1 PC Date: 3 Nov 1995 15:10:31 GMT Message-Id: <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I configure PC-Pine to allow for several people receiving mail on the same PC? I'd like to have several Pine icons that are for the different users and IMAP servers. Suggestions? Marty Brenneis Industrial Magician droid@well.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:36:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28744; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10611; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:31:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10605; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:31:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBb7N-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: showie@uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie) Subject: Re: PGP & Pine Date: 26 Oct 1995 14:10:53 GMT Message-Id: <46o4td$n59@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <46mka4$kv7@tbone.biol.sc.edu> Dean Pentcheff (dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu) wrote: [ ... ] : : To get a copy of mkpgp, send a blank email message to: : : slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu : : with: : : Subject: mkpgp : : It is written in csh, though (a Unix shell language), so it will : definitely not run on a PC for PC-Pine. : Any brave soul willing to port it to PC-Perl? :-) Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Gopher Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 3 21:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28810; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12396; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12390; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBbDc-00038DC; Fri, 3 Nov 95 21:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Pine for VMS Message-Id: <17443D694S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <46hjjv$4mn@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 15:15:30 GMT In article <46hjjv$4mn@nntp.dlsu.edu.ph> cscspm@dlsu.edu.ph (Sammy Mallare) writes: >i'm looking for Pine for VMS.. Feel free to consult my own notes on installing Yehavi's port of PINE for VMS at my lab: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html >...the one that doesn't have a serious >bug. Which version was that? >any kind soul out there can help me? please specify the version >number. thanks! I would if you would. Oh well, alright, Yehavi's designation is 3.91 beta 5. | HTML: "A simple scaleable document format...for information exchange | on virtually any platform" (W3 Consortium Prospectus). --- Alan Flavell, H.E.P Group, Glasgow University, Scotland In all postings, I speak solely for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 00:56:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02620; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:56:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13255; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13249; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeFI-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saf@hiwa61.com (steve) Subject: Problem Sending Mail Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 15:17:19 GMT Message-Id: <47dbl6$4mo@news.halcyon.com> I am using PINE 3.91 on my laptop. When at work the laptop is on a LAN. While all other LAN services seem to work OK, I am not able to send mail. I can receive mail just fine, but when I try to send (or forward, or reply...) I get the following error message: "Can't send message without an open remote folder." Does anyone have any ideas on this? I can't figure it out. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 00:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02695; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:58:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15014; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15008; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:51:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeH5-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 00:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: bug Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:50:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: On 1 Nov 1995, Jeffrey Herrera wrote: > Would someone please help me. There is a bug in my system and no one=20 > that I've asked knows how to help. Whenever I'm in pine, =FD=ADcommands= =20 > occur on their own and letters pop up on the screen randomly. [...] I don't know that this is the case, of course, but at least consider=20 the possibility of a keyboard or cabling glitch that is sending spurious=20 characters to the software. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 01:09:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03103; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:09:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13587; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:06:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13581; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:06:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBeUI-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ranjit Deshpande Subject: Saving Remote Folders Date: 3 Nov 1995 16:56:15 GMT Message-Id: <47dhjf$1r@apocalypse.dmi.stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I try to save messages from a remote folder (VAX/VMS) to a Unix machine running System V using Pine 3.91, some of the messages go through fine. The other messages do not go through and I get an error - "File shrank from (...) to (...)" Where the first (...) indicates the original message size and the next one indicates the new file size. The message is not saved on the Unix machine. Can somebody help me please.. Ranjit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 01:32:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03972; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:32:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13861; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:28:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizar.usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13855; Sat, 4 Nov 95 01:28:11 -0800 Received: (kozinski@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id BAA23503; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:28:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 01:28:10 -0800 (PST) From: The Easy Rider To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Spellchecker Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have started using the alternative spellchecker i-spell instead of the one provided by pico. I like it better but it has one problem: It checks not only the text I have written, but also forwarded text which is marked by >. Pine's normal spellchecker doesn't do this. Is there any way to tell i-spell not to check lines marked with a > ? Thanx. Ciao. AK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 03:14:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05431; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:14:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16755; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:12:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16749; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:11:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBgST-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) Subject: Re: How to compile pine on hp-ux Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:19:34 GMT References: <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no> In article <47d3u1$rvi@nms.telepost.no>, Trond Skog writes: > I have downloded pine from ftp.cdrom.com. When I try to build pine, there is no > hp-ux option. You need the HP ANSI C compiler and then pick up this from one of the official sites listed in my footer: /hpux/Networking/Mail/pine-3.91/pine-3.91-ss-9.01.tar.gz (2 MB) Full instructions are in the HPUX.Install document in that package (a shame that SO MANY mods had to be made and not all just for HP-UX...). HP-UX Archive Librarian, E-mail queries: hpux@csc.liv.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Official anonymous FTP sites (get /README first): Liverpool University, United Kingdom: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk United Kingdom. Germany: hpux.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de United States: hpux.cae.wisc.edu Not got xbrowser 3.0 yet ? France: hpux.cict.fr Netherlands: hpux.ced.tudelft.nl You'll find it in Canada: hpux.ee.ualberta.ca /hpux/X11/Networking Italy: hpux.dsi.unimi.it Official World Wide Web sites are also available from the above sites (http://site/), except for: Netherlands: http://hpux.ced.tudelft.nl/ARCHIVE/archive_intro.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:05:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06940; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:05:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15803; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:02:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15797; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:02:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBhEe-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 03:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven C. King" Subject: Sort Algorithm Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 22:19:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering what algorithm Pine 3.91 uses when it sorts things like the address book, news posts, etc. It seems really slow here, though it could be caused by the Telnet connection. Does it use something like Bubble Sort? I wondered if it would speed things up if Pine used the Quick Sort algorithm instead. Any thoughts? {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { stevekng@freenet.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { cujo@tweety.csv.eku.edu Last words: Gravity. Why fight it? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:33:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07362; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:33:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17926; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:27:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17920; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:27:15 -0800 Received: by spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32085; Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:21:33 +0200 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 14:21:33 +0200 (WET) From: jonathan levy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID XI7QJ): (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 18:08:29 +0200 (WET) From: jonathan levy To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID XI7QJ): This is not to talk about a bug.... only to figure out how to save a file onto my computer. I am working through a modem. I am accessing the internet using the Hebrew University Spinach system here in Jerusalem. I have files that I would like to download onto my coputer. Supposedly you can do it through Pine. How does this work? If pine cannot do it, can you tell me how! Thanks, Jon Levy ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = osjonlev, full = jonathan levy home = /studos/oss/year/osjonlev home_dir= /studos/oss/year/osjonlev hostname= spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il localdom= mscc.huji.ac.il userdom= NULL maildom= spinach.mscc.huji.ac.il cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /usr/spool/mail/osjonlev msgmap: tot=138, cur=138, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/pts/0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : jonathan levy user-id : osjonlev nntp-server : shum.huji.ac.il inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{shum.huji.ac.il/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr -Pibmpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : yes ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/studos/oss/year/osjonlev/.pinerc) ======= folder-collections : mail/[] saved-msg-name-rule : by-from last-time-prune-ques : 95.11 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= nntp-server : shum.huji.ac.il inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr -Pibmpr standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : yes ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2076134857-2002600785-815414909=:39924-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 04:49:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07730; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:49:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18160; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:47:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18153; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:47:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBhzi-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 04:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pp000738@interramp.com Date: 4 Nov 1995 06:39:32 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <153520.pp000738@ipiws-001.interramp.com> Control: cancel <153520.pp000738@ipiws-001.interramp.com> Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 05:46:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08803; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:46:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17289; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:42:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17283; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:42:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBiml-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 05:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven C. King" Subject: Shelling from Pine Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 17:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In Pine 3.91, is there a way to shell to the operating system on AIX? There doesn't seem to be a command for this. If there isn't, will one be added in the future release? {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { stevekng@freenet.fsu.edu Instrument: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { cujo@tweety.csv.eku.edu Last words: Gravity. Why fight it? } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 07:49:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10733; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:49:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18749; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:44:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18743; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:44:33 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tBjpY-000s9IC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44 MEZ Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 16:43:46 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Ludwik Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I download e-mail to my hard disk? Help. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As the menubar in the lower lines says: S for SAVE (You can also try E for EXPORT, then the headers won't be saved). Ciao, Michael On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Ludwik wrote: > I need to download some clipart from my pine news. > I don't know how to do it. > Can someone help me? > Thanks. > > Lu > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE File names are infinite in length where infinity is set to 255 characters. (Peter Collinson, "The Unix File System") From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 07:57:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10857; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:57:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20407; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:42 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10799; Sat, 4 Nov 95 07:52:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 07:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: steve Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem Sending Mail In-Reply-To: <47dbl6$4mo@news.halcyon.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, I'm guessing that you are actually using PC-Pine... That message occurs if Pine doesn't think you have an authenticated IMAP connection open. The requirement to have an open IMAP folder before sending is to allow PC-Pine to put a traceable x-sender line into outgoing messages to mitigate the threat of forged messages. -teg On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, steve wrote: > I am using PINE 3.91 on my laptop. When at work the laptop is on a > LAN. While all other LAN services seem to work OK, I am not able to > send mail. I can receive mail just fine, but when I try to send (or > forward, or reply...) I get the following error message: > > "Can't send message without an open remote folder." > > Does anyone have any ideas on this? I can't figure it out. > > Steve > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 09:41:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12653; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:41:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21715; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:27:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21709; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:27:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBmLX-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 09:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: Setting MIME Content-Type header in PINE? Date: 3 Nov 1995 07:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <47cgqc$ani@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! Ist it possible to set MIME headers in Pine? What I really need, is Content-Type. I have to write in English, German and Russian and clearly _one_ character set just doesn't exist for all. Currently I am using ELM but it is not possible there (at least in 2.4 and next version comes "soon" :-) So I am looking for software which allows it. Thanks in advance P.S please CC to me if posting answer ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 11:06:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13878; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:06:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21433; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:03:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21427; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:03:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBnp1-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Saving messages to a floppy Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 23:39:36 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Phil Tompkins wrote: > > > Sorry, left out a step. You have to get out of Pine and go to the shell > > to download or use the cat command. > > Phil > > You seem to be referring to using Pine on Unix or some sort of > Unix-like system. In that case, Ctrl-Z should get you out to the shell. > Use 'fg' (foreground) to resume Pine. > Ah! I didn't know about that one. And it seems you have to go into setup - configure and enable Pine suspension first. Thanks, I will add that to my script. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 11:50:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14810; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:50:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23621; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:48:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23615; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:48:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBoXK-00038CC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 11:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: AFS Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:21:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello everyone, Me again! I promise this will be my last post for at least a few days;) Can anyone tell me what the AFS folder in pine is used for? I think I've got the others figured out but still don't know what I do with that one. Thanks, Jill jilmarie@imap.asu.edu p.s. I think I just found a browser. I hit control T while in attchmnt and got into something that had browser in the title. Sound familiar to anyone? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17668; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:08:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25463; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:59:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25457; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:59:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBqaT-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Silencing multiple recipients Date: Wed, 25 Oct 1995 11:22:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <46en6c$jfs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46en6c$jfs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> On 23 Oct 1995, Jack Zupan wrote: | I have a short letter I want to send to about 20 people, but don't want | all 20 names to show on each one. | How can I set it up that each recipient gets it with only his/her name in | the "To:" field? The point is I don't want any of them to know who else | is getting it. You need to use the Bcc: ("blind carbon copy") header field. Put the cursor in the headers and press Ctrl-L to get "rich headers." Then put the addresses of all your recipients in Bcc: (you can use an alias list if you do this very often). Note that you need to put _something_ in the To: field. The simplest thing is just to send the message To: yourself and Bcc: to everybody you really want it to go to. If you do not have Bcc: when you display rich headers, go into Setup/Config and add it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:22:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17935; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:22:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24224; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24218; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:19:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBqs5-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clouds@mik.uky.edu (aaron o neil hall) Subject: directory Date: 25 Oct 95 17:28:59 GMT Message-Id: t directory are the news groups for pine set up in? I would like to manually go in and take a bunch of them out becuase it would take to long to go through and delete them one by one. Please e-mail me privately.. Thanks in advance, Aaron O. Hall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:36:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18447; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:36:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25911; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25905; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBr62-00038EC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Curtis Ockerman Subject: Re: Pine and MMDF Date: 24 Oct 1995 23:02:16 GMT Message-Id: <46jr9o$ht8@xanadu.simplot.COM> References: <46c3hf$6ge@news.cis.okstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the same question as Frederick. Does PINE work with MMDF and I'll go a bit further and ask does PINE work under SCO UNIX setup with mmdf?????? Thanks Curtis J. Ockerman (ockerman@simplot.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 14:37:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18482; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:37:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24433; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24427; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:34:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBr62-00038HC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Curtis Ockerman Subject: Re: Where can I find Pine (for UNIX) ? Date: 24 Oct 1995 23:04:18 GMT Message-Id: <46jrdi$ht8@xanadu.simplot.COM> References: <46gjm4$64j@gnu.mat.uc.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ftp.cac.washington.edu Good Luck, Curtis J.Ockerman (ockerman@simplot.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 16:49:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20879; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:49:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27865; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27859; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:44:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBt9a-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Duncan Hill Subject: Transfer: Permission Denied Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 20:33:32 +1130 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The subject says it all. I installed Linux 1.2.12 on my fathers laptop with no problem. He now has internet access, and is trying to post to newsgroups from pine. At the moment, he get error 441 or 480 ( He's not in at the mo, so I can't check ) . This error number is associated with the subject of this post. The same error occurs when using tin or netscape. My quaestion is : Is this a pine error? Or is it an error with the provider? Please send all replies to either : stobyn@caribnet.net dhill@envirolink.org or duncan@caribsurf.com Many thanks. Duncan Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 18:36:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22920; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:36:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27864; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27858; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:34:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBut6-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 18:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: folder transfer question Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:43:40 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 27 Oct 1995, E. Karl Isbrecht wrote: > This is not a bug query but I have a question on how > to save all the files in any particular pine folder > onto a floppy; > is this do-able by folder or must each file be > moved into another area separately, assembled into a folder > there and >then< dumped on a floppy ? It is certainly doable. I do it frequently. You didn't say what operating system you are running Pine under (Unix, MS-DOS, whatever), so details may differ. In Unix Pine, each folder is simply a flat ASCII file with path $HOME/mail/ (at least the way it's set up for me). I just download a folder file to my PC the way I would download any other ASCII file. Just _how_ depends on your particular software setup. There may not be a single flat answer on just what to do. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 19:36:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24060; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:36:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00529; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:34:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00523; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBvpa-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 19:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moritz@math.uni-duesseldorf.de (Moritz D. Klingholz) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 4 Nov 1995 00:06:10 GMT Message-Id: <47eapi$bna@selene.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) wrote: : On 17 Oct 1995, Danny van der Rijn wrote: : | In article <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) writes: : | : | >So my question is: does anyone know of any : | >SMALL utilities out there that will list just your mail headers (besides : | >mail and mailx)? Thanks for any help or information you can provide. : | : | /usr/ucb/from : This is fine provided all of your incoming mail is in your INBOX : (i.e., still in the mail spool). However, I, like _many_ people, use a : utility such as procmail (or filter) to pre-sort mail into various : folders before I ever invoke my mail reader (Pine, in my case). I have : been wanting a utility (Perl OK) that would list the headers of mail not : only remaining in the INBOX but also in pre-sorted folders. It's just five awk-commands, see at the end :-) NOTES - This is too slow for big files. A C version would do better. - Your awk will need "toupper()". This is ok e.g. with AIX and Linux, but not e.g. with IRIX 4 or SunOS 5. - Have an eye on the /var/spool/mail path. - You will have to write the man page yourself ... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - #!/bin/sh # @(#) from 0.1 by moritz@math.uni-duesseldorf.de, 1995.11.03 Usage () { cat </dev/null | \ awk ' BEGIN {S="^" toupper(S)} !B && $1=="From" {H=1; sub(/^From [^ ]* /, " "); D=$0} H && $1=="From:" && toupper($2)~S {print $0 D} NF>0 {B=1} NF==0 {B=0; H=0} ' S="${Sender}" 2>/dev/null From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 20:22:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24961; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:22:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29647; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:19:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29641; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:19:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBwVX-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philmac@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Phillip McMillan) Subject: UUencoded attachment Date: 3 Nov 1995 20:52:58 GMT Message-Id: <47dvfa$kfv@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> Please help, I seem to have a bit of a problem, a co-worker of mine sent me mail with an WordPerfect attachment from the office to my school account. Work uses MS Office 4.0 e-mail and school uses Pine 3.81 (or something like that) Somewhere in the process, the attachment was UUencoded. However, for me to be able to use it, I'm home for the weekend with no chance to get to the office, I need to decode it. Is this possible? If so what's the process? I'd appreciate any help I get, I'm on deadline for next week. If you've got any suggestions send 'em to met at philmac@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Thanks, Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 20:27:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25165; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:27:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01251; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:24:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01245; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:24:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBwZF-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 20:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 19:30:56 GMT cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- Christopher Curtis, Sun SysAdmin - http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/ccurtis Florida Institute of Technology - telnet bofh.engr.wisc.edu 666 Melbourne, Florida USA - Member, Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 21:39:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26630; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:39:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02170; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02164; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13997; Sat, 4 Nov 95 21:36:14 -0800 Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:30:05 -0500 (EST) From: Solis James X-Sender: sjames@mail To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 339 Resent-Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 21:36:05 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I suddenly find that the PRYNT command allows me to print less than a page of output. What might I have done to limit the output on my printer. In order to get around the difficulty I EXPORT, download and print the document with my word processor which is a round-about nuisance. Many thanks! Sol James sjames@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 4 23:32:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28603; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:32:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02469; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:30:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02463; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:30:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tBzSa-00038BC; Sat, 4 Nov 95 23:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jana@pogonip.scs.unr.edu (Jana Dunn) Subject: email-only accounts via imap Date: 4 Nov 1995 21:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <47gm38$rq3@silver.scs.unr.edu> We are in the process of setting up a dedicated host to receive and spool incoming mail. The proposed host currently runs SunOS 4.1.3; we'll be upgrading to Solaris 2.4 in the relatively near future. Imapd (from Univ. of of Washington) is installed on this mailhost system. Most of our users will log in to a group of UNIX hosts and read their mail with pine, with their inbox being on the remote mailhost. Since the users have already logged in and given their passwords once, we'll like to bypass the imap login/password authentication for these users. Users using imap clients from other hosts should still be subject to the regular authentication process. The imap documentation says the following: If you want to enable the rimap capability, which allows users with a suitable client and .rhosts file on the server to access IMAP services without transmitting her password in the clear over the network, you need to have /etc/rimapd as a link to the real copy of imapd. Assuming you have imapd installed on /usr/local/etc as above: % ln -s /usr/local/etc/imapd /etc/rimapd Technical note: rimap works by having the client routine tcp_aopen() invoke `rsh _host_ exec /etc/rimapd' in an child process, and then returning pipes to that process' standard I/O instead of a TCP socket. You can set up `e-mail only accounts' by making the shell be something which accepts only that string and not ordinary Unix shell commands. Perhaps it's trivial, but has someone already concocted a version of the "something which accepts only that string" so that I don't have to re-invent the wheel? I'd also welcome advice from those who have already set up mailhosts along similar lines. Have you had problems or discovered difficulties that I should be aware of? Thanks. Jana Dunn Univ. of Nev. jana@scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 00:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29717; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05101; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:40:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05095; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:40:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC0bV-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 00:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdrone@isbe.state.il.us (Mark Drone) Subject: printing from pine Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 21:38:19 -0500 Message-Id: I would like to find out how to print to my Stylewriter from PINE. I've run the setup and selected the local print option, but can't get it to work. Thanks mdrone@isbe.state.il.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 02:12:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01759; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:12:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05004; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:10:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04998; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:10:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC1xg-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 02:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bryan J. Vekovius" Subject: Forwarding Mail Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 23:57:12 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking all of my mail accounts. Thanks bryan@softdisk.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan J. Vekovius bryan.vekovius@utmb.edu University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston ----------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 03:13:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06973; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:13:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07319; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07313; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC2y0-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: romani@email.unc.edu (David Romani) Subject: Re: PC-PINE Time Zone Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 09:04:31 -0500 Message-Id: References: Edward, >From the Pine Technical notes, p. 18 (a very useful resource) Set an environment variable TZ in your autoexec.bat TZ=ZZZ[+H]H[:MM:SS:TTT] where ZZZ is your standard time zone, e.g., EST + (or -) H[:MM:SS] its offset from GMT TTT is your summer or daylight savings time zone, e.g., EDT The default values for a DOS/Windows system are PST-8PDT (US Pacific Time and the location of Microsoft's headquarters. The correct setting for someone in the US eastern time zone would be SET TZ=EST-5EDT In article , Edward H Fenster wrote: > Hello. > > My copy of PC-PINE is properly putting Eastern Standard Time on my > outgoing messages; however, it is marking them Pacific Standard Time. > For instace, if I mail a message 3 p.m. EST (-0500), it is marked 3 p.m. > PST (-0800). > > This happens in both Windows 3.11, as well as Windows/NT, which is > properly set for EST (-0500). Mail I compose on my computer using > different software (NUPOP) is properly stamped. > > Does anybody know how to fix the time zone marking on my outbound mail, > or for that matter where PC-PINE gets the current time zone from? > > Thanks Much! > - Edward -- David Romani Library Systems Office Academic Affairs Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill romani@email.unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 03:29:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07521; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:29:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06275; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:25:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06269; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:25:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC38P-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 03:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colorado@crl.com (Scott Matteson) Subject: Re: International students Date: 4 Nov 1995 13:58:53 -0800 Message-Id: <47gnmt$3s@crl12.crl.com> References: bartosz m marcinkowski (bartas@unm.edu) wrote: : People who come from foreign countries consider America as a : country of freedom and equality. However, this equality is prescribed : only to the citizens of America. Why do international students have to : pay 3 times bigger tuition then americans? I agree with your concerns, but what does this have to do with using the Pine e-mail system? Any of the political newsgroups would probably be glad to discuss the issue. -- Scott Matteson |"Luck changes. It always does." colorado@crl.com | - Quentin Tarantino Boston, MA | "Destiny Turns on the Radio." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 05:25:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10676; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:25:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09188; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:20:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09182; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:20:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC4w8-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: could use some more help please:) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 10:45:07 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Nov 1995 jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU wrote: > Sorry! As you can tell I'm clueless! > Okay, I've got to ask one more. What is a browser and how do I get/use > one? Remember, I told you I didn't have a clue. > Thanks all, > Jill > jilmarie@imap.asu.edu Jill, I'm clueless about most things but slightly less so about the Internet. :-) A browser can be many things. Mosaic, NetScape, Lynx are different browsers for the World Wide Web. Pine is a browser (and editor) for email and newsgroups (USENET); and, NN & TIN are browsers only for newsgroups. If your using Pine from an account on a host (remote) system, as I assume, then you may wish to ask your sysop about the availability of Lynx. Lynx is widely available on host systems to browse the WWW. It is a text only Web browser. The other true Web browsers, ala Mosaic, need access to your workstations video and sound capabilities which require a more sophisticated link to your host. These links are called PPP or SLIP. These links are becoming much more common as Internet Service Providers (ISPs) pop up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 08:00:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12364; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:00:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09711; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:56:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09705; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:56:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC7OE-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 07:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Using Hayes SCOPE scripts with Pine Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 17:44:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone using Hayes SCOPE scripts with Pine ? I have written a few to automate sorting the mail and downloading to disk - not elegant, but they work - and I would be interested in sharing notes. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 08:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12763; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:35:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11230; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11224; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC7oj-00038BC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chmwilso@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Chris Wilson) Subject: How to change folder display screen in pine? Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 18:46:26 -0600 Message-Id: I'm trying to fix up pine for a friend. She's on a mailing list where every message is distributed in the following form: Sender: NAME OF MAILING LIST From: ORIGINAL AUTHOR OF MESSAGE Now, pine displays that each message is from NAME OF MAILING LIST (sender) rather than the real author (from field). I've looked in the pine faq, but I haven't seen anything like this. Elm doesn't have this problem, but how do get it right in pine? Chris -- Chris Wilson |Still time to start a new life in the palm trees-JB chmwilso@indiana.edu|--------------------------------------------------- CoB, O |I'd like to go where the pace of life's slow-JB If you're bored enough to read this, you're bored enough to visit my home page at http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~chmwilso/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 10:16:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14481; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:16:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11470; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:11:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11464; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:11:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC9Vn-00038HC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Re: Signature Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 21:06:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <46tuf4$d4t@cnct.com> Thank you for your help, but someone showed me how to do this on IRC. I thank all of you who have responded to my post through mail also. See my signature now? :) Mark A. Wille mwille@mcs.com Christian Information Systems Coordinator -------------------------------------------------------------------- |To receive information on Christian Information Systems, send mail| |to mwille@mcs.com with INFO-CIS as the subject, and nothing in the| |body of the message. | -------------------------------------------------------------------- On 28 Oct 1995, Cassady Kent wrote: > Mark A. Wille (mwille@mcs.net) wrote: > : I have a question. In pine, how can you create a signature? Thank you > : very much. > > Put whatever you want in a file named .signature (the initial dot is > required) in your home directory. That works 99% of the time. If it > doesn't, check your setup configuration menu within pine. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 10:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14761; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:31:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12884; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:26:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12878; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:26:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tC9iw-00038DC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 10:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mark A. Wille" Subject: Question Date: Sat, 28 Oct 1995 23:13:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one upload a file to his/her directory, where then he/she can attach it? Thank you very much for your help. Mark A. Wille mwille@mcs.net Christian Information Systems Coordinator -------------------------------------------------------------------- |To receive information on Christian Information Systems, send mail| |to mwille@mcs.net with INFO-CIS as the subject, and nothing in the| |body of the message. | -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 11:15:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15328; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:15:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12178; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:06:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12172; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:06:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCAMn-00038HC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Kugler Subject: Re: Where can I find Pine (for UNIX) ? Date: Sun, 05 Nov 1995 02:58:16 -0700 Message-Id: <309C8AB8.2445@aspin.asu.edu> References: <46gjm4$64j@gnu.mat.uc.pt> <46hvmm$mbv@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit K.P. Chow wrote: > > eq3jpf@eq10.eq.uc.pt (Joao Ramos Ferreira) wrote: > >CAn someone tell where can i find PINE for UNIX ? > > > > Thanks > > > I don't know if this is an official site for the newest pine, but > you can try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > > Regards, > Ka-po CHOW > -- > Motorola Semiconductors Hong Kong Ltd. > E-mail: kpchow@aap1aix.sps.mot.com, kp2chow@csd.hku.hk Is there a port for SGI Irix 5.x? The build file includes the following directions: See the document doc/pine-ports for a list of other platforms that Pine has been ported to and for details about these and other ports. but there is no such file in the .tar.gz. I opened it a second time in case I had somehow rmoved it, to no avail. Any help would be appreciated, Hans -- ++++++++++++=================================++++++++++++ | Systems Programmer -- ASPIN | | LuftHans@aspin.asu.edu | | http://aspin.asu.edu/~lufthans | | Keine Ahnung, was ich dir sagen soll, | | keine Ahnung und keinen Plan. -- die Toten Hosen | ============+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++============ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 12:07:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16455; Sun, 5 Nov 95 12:07:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14116; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14110; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:56:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCB6g-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders Date: 5 Nov 1995 04:57:48 GMT Message-Id: <47hg8c$dp5@styx.uwa.edu.au> References: <476tgr$igf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Rick Troxel (rick@helix.nih.gov) wrote: : A standard Berkeley style folder delineates messages by a "From " line : following a blank line. Reading from the pine Tech Notes: This seems a bit simplistic when you consider that the message might well contain a line starting with the word "From ". From some of the information I've received following this thread I've come across another way of doing it: Whenever you come across a line starting with "From " you then say "This might be a new header". You look at the following lines which (if it's a header) must all start with "Received from: ", "X-Status: " or a large number of other field names, unless they are part of a "To: " or "Cc: " field, in which case they probably start with a few spaces. Then when you get a blank line (end of header) you count the number of fields you came across. If this number is greater than a certain limit, you say "right I've found a header". I guess about 9 or so fields would be a good sign of a header. Any comments on this algorithm? It will still think that a header within a message is a new header :( Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 13:42:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18433; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:42:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14354; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:36:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14348; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:36:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCCir-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 13:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bartosz m marcinkowski Subject: International students Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 13:34:47 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII People who come from foreign countries consider America as a country of freedom and equality. However, this equality is prescribed only to the citizens of America. Why do international students have to pay 3 times bigger tuition then americans? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 15:18:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20380; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:18:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17147; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17141; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:07:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCE7n-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 5 Nov 95 22:41:20 GMT Message-Id: References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> <47duld$7ev@jabba.ess.harris.com> wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Bill Davis) writes: >|>> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". >If you are on a system with egrep, then perhaps you can use sed as well. >You could include the sed command '/^$/,$d' to keep just the header >based on RFC 822 paragraph 3.1 "The body is ... It is separated from >the headers by a null line (i.e., a line with nothing preceding the CRLF)." >There are complications with trying to get all this on an alias line, but >the alias could just call a script or it could be a script called "from". ''And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails".'' Anyone have a script which takes care of "included" mails? Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 15:32:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20659; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:32:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16047; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:22:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16041; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:22:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCEJY-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjw@best.com (Gregory Woodhouse) Subject: Re: How do u Personalize your name on pine? Date: 5 Nov 1995 15:01:07 GMT Message-Id: <47ijjj$pa8@shellx.best.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article , V094J3A3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu says... > >I was wondering how u personalize your name on pine?? >Please give me a step by step way of doing it. >Thanks, >Jeff Walter Set the options "personal name" and "user domain" (if appropriate). --- Gregory Woodhouse gjw@best.com home page: http://www.best.com/~gjw/ resource page: http://www.best.com/~gjw/resource/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 16:09:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21627; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:09:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17888; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:57:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17882; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:57:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCEuG-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Jpico with Unix Pine Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 18:24:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anyone had any experience with using Jpico (a configured version of the joe editor) as an alternate editor with Unix Pine? I just set it up and have gotten a few anomalous results (as well as some screen delay). Maybe I haven't played with it long enough. Email me if you don't think it would be of general interest for comp.mail.pine. (Jpico is an editor that works a lot like Pico but has many additional features.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 16:29:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22024; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:29:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16927; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16921; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:27:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCFOo-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ofross@larry.cc.emory.edu (Oliver Fross) Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail Date: 5 Nov 1995 10:20:36 -0500 Message-Id: <47iko4$icn@larry.cc.emory.edu> References: Bryan J. Vekovius (bvekoviu@marlin.utmb.edu) wrote: : Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? : I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking : all of my mail accounts. Edit a file in your home directory called ".forward" with the content in the format of "id@host.domain". I do it with my three accounts, so I only have to log in to one host to check my mail. This function is not pine-specific, so you could use it with any sort of mailreader that you wanted. Pine does, however indicate that it was sent to the alternate address, and not to the current server in the to: line. eg: ".forward" on the server win95.microsoft.com bill_gates@redmond.microsoft.com If I send mail to "bill_gates@win95.microsoft.com" it wil get forwarded to "bill_gates@redmond.microsoft.com", so he only has to check his mail in one place, but he'll know that you sent him mail at win95, not redmond. good luck. --oliver From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24142; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19737; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:07:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19731; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:07:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCGuA-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Bill Davis) Subject: Re: Getting Mail headers without mail prog??? Date: 3 Nov 1995 20:39:09 GMT Message-Id: <47duld$7ev@jabba.ess.harris.com> References: <45bj41$71u@nic-nac.CSU.net> <46g81r$c2k@news.dataphone.se> Anders Waller writes: |> |>On 23 Oct 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: |> |>> Well, this looks at *all* lines which contain "From". |>> It should be "^From: ", though. |>> And even this does not skip "included non-quoted mails". |> |>Correct...Been playing some with egrep, seems the following works, havent |>tested it much yet though...Im sure theres some case whereas it doesnt |>work. |> |>alias from 'more $MAILPATH | egrep "^From: | ^From " If you are on a system with egrep, then perhaps you can use sed as well. You could include the sed command '/^$/,$d' to keep just the header based on RFC 822 paragraph 3.1 "The body is ... It is separated from the headers by a null line (i.e., a line with nothing preceding the CRLF)." There are complications with trying to get all this on an alias line, but the alias could just call a script or it could be a script called "from". Bill Davis wdavis@dw3f.ess.harris.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24287; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18494; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:17:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18488; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:17:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCH67-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: how to convert ELM aliases to PINE Date: 4 Nov 1995 11:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <47fiu1$4lq@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! I have just installed PINE 3.91 to test it. Seems to be great thing. But two questions: 1. is it possible to import ELM aliases into PINE? 2. is it possible to share PINE address book between Unix and PC? (I mean for the same user) Thanks for help! P.S. Please Cc to me if posting answer. ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:36:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24604; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:36:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18729; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:32:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18723; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:32:17 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:32 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages ? To: matteo@math.mit.edu (Matteo Mainetti) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:32:10 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Matteo Mainetti" at Nov 2, 95 06:29:40 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 727 Quoting Matteo Mainetti: > Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with > my name and address and send it to whomever ?! If that was possible to fake the From: line then, yes, anyone could send letters to someone pretending to be you. However, this cannot be done with (good) mailers. Unfortunately, spoofing mail is very simple to do with other programs. If you want to make sure that noone can pretend to be you then you should add information (eg a PGP signature) which allows a check to be done on the contents. Read about such things in "alt.security.pgp". Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:39:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24684; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:39:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20128; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:34:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20122; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:34:52 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:34 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Forwarding Mail To: bvekoviu@marlin.utmb.edu (Bryan J. Vekovius) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:34:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Bryan J. Vekovius" at Nov 2, 95 11:57:12 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 311 Quoting Bryan J. Vekovius: > Does anyone here know how to forward all mail to another mail server? > I have a separate account and it has become difficult to keep checking > all of my mail accounts. See this page for info on "mail forwarding": http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/forwarding.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:39:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24712; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20210; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20204; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:37:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCHNl-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joel Jenkins Subject: Q: Newsgroups and Carbon Copy Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:39:41 +1000 How can I do this with pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 18:43:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24793; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:43:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18859; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:41:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18853; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:41:53 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:41 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: web browser (Re: could use some more help please:) To: jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:41:46 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU" at Nov 3, 95 08:09:39 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 337 Quoting jilmarie@IMAP2.ASU.EDU: > What is a browser and how do I get/use one? A "web browser" is a program which can connect to "web servers", actually a program on a machine ("host") which sends files usually set in HTML (hypertext markup language). Ask your sys admin to install a browser (netscape, mosaic, lynx, ...) for you. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 19:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25195; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:04:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20498; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:58:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20492; Sun, 5 Nov 95 18:58:48 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:58 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: gtminch@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Graham Minchin) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:58:38 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47hg8c$dp5@styx.uwa.edu.au> from "Graham Minchin" at Nov 5, 95 04:57:48 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 1565 Quoting Graham Minchin: > Whenever you come across a line starting with "From " you then say "This > might be a new header". You look at the following lines which (if it's a > header) must all start with "Received from: ", "X-Status: " or a large > number of other field names, unless they are part of a "To: " or "Cc: " > field, in which case they probably start with a few spaces. Any header might be broken across several lines, providing each following line starts with white space. Example: X-Example: This header line is more than one line but it is still a valid header line! > Then when you get a blank line (end of header) you count the number of > fields you came across. If this number is greater than a certain limit, you > say "right I've found a header". I guess about 9 or so fields would be a > good sign of a header. Any comments on this algorithm? Nine lines may be a good sign, but the tenth line might be a non valid header lines. This would allow anyone to send you mails with pseudo headers which only require nine lines and thus fool your script. > It will still think that a header within a message is a new header :( OK! >From cac.washington.edu!owner-pine-info Mon Nov 6 12:34:56 1995 From: me to you To: you Date: Mon Nov 6 12:34:56 MET 1995 Subject: Organization: Free University of Berlin X-URL: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Smiley: :-) X-X-L: SMILE! X-X-X-X-X-X-X: This exxxxtra line for Graham Minchin. May his algorithm succeed! Oops, looks like my signature got into the next mail. ;-) Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 19:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25286; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19149; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19143; Sun, 5 Nov 95 19:01:42 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:01 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Q: Newsgroups and Carbon Copy To: sci-jj1@jcu.edu.au (Joel Jenkins) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 04:01:36 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Joel Jenkins" at Nov 6, 95 11:39:41 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 143 Quoting Joel Jenkins: > How can I do this with pine? "Do" what? Define "do"! Do you want to send someone a newsgroup as a carbon copy? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 20:14:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28761; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:14:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20401; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:10:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20393; Sun, 5 Nov 95 20:10:29 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:06:59 +0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 12:06:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Cc: Sven Guckes Subject: Q: How to verify that "elm" is a dead product? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A. Notice that Sven Guckes is answering questions on the pine group. Welcome? aboard Sven. :-) :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 22:02:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01037; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:02:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21884; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21878; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:57:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCKV7-00038EC; Sun, 5 Nov 95 21:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: beweiss@umich.edu (Barbara Weiss) Subject: How has e-mail changed your writing? Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 21:54:05 Message-Id: I'm working on a project for a masters-level class in Computers and Writing, and would like to join/follow/play-with a discussion group on how e-mail has changed your/our writing. Have I come to a likely place? Has e-mail affected your attitude toward writing? mood? frequency? style? Has it helped to flatten hierarchies, especially in the workplace? Eliminated work? Increased it? Aided communication, or hampered it? Anybody want to get us started? Thanks! Your pal, bew. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 5 22:56:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01739; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:56:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23796; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:53:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23784; Sun, 5 Nov 95 22:53:45 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:11 +0100 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.2.31]) by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA05308 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:09 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA25555; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:53:08 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:53:04 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-Pine compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Helo all, I need the PC-Pine binaries (pcpine_f.zip and pcpine_w.zip) compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Is there a kind soul that has already done this and could send me her/his binaries? thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 00:53:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03909; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:53:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25375; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:38:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25369; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:38:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCN2R-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 00:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: Femdom In Search of Naughty Boys Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 03:58:51 GMT Seriously, this is a chance of a lifetime. I want all you naughty boys to contact me at once. Do not delay. Location is unimportant. Let me know how you've been naughty and what type of corrective punishment you deem appropriate. It's time we clean up the net. Anne --------------------------------------------------- Anne Schoofs vac@indirect.com Fax: 602 912 8823 Attn: RAS ------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04645; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:19:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24582; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24576; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:03:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCNSD-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: opdi@netshop.net (JSmith) Subject: Deleting an FTP.EXE file from Pine - How? Date: 6 Nov 1995 04:40:21 GMT Message-Id: <47k3jl$471@news.netshop.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I have an FTP.EXE file in Pine. I'm using Windows 95 and the Plus Program. There is an FTP.EXE file in my pine message box but I can't delete it. Does anyone know how to delete .exe files from the Pine section? I have no idea how it got there. Thanks. opdi@netshop.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:45:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05401; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:45:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26302; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:33:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26296; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:33:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:19:28 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA28217; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:20:46 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:20:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: querying for newmail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: >From the "ELM Reference Guide": > "-z This causes Elm not to start if you don't have any mail," > This should be equivalent to "size of mailbox is zero". > Most shells have a text for this, eg for the zsh this would be: > if [[ -s file ]]; then pine; else pine -i; fi Of course, this won't work if you only have IMAP access to your INBOX file. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 01:51:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05529; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:51:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26468; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:44:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26462; Mon, 6 Nov 95 01:44:38 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:32:51 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA28869; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:25:55 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:25:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Carla Golden Cc: Sven Guckes , Pine Information Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This error message is merely being *reported* by Pine. The message is actually coming from your news server (its disk is full). When you see something like this why not ask your local systems administrator/service provider in the first instance? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Carla Golden wrote: > > I keep getting this error message. > > > > [400 No spce left on device writting logging article file ----throttling] > > > Also, I do not see the newsgroup that i subscribed to. Can you help me > with this, thanks a bunch. > > > > > Carla > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 02:15:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05974; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:15:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25566; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:09:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25560; Mon, 6 Nov 95 02:09:15 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:50:28 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA03902; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:51:34 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:51:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Mark Drone Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: printing from pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As you mention a StyleWriter I am assuming you are using an Apple Macintosh. I am also assuming that you are running a terminal emulator (eg, NCSA Telnet) on the Macintosh and then logging in to a UNIX computer, from where you then run Pine. Pine, being a UNIX program, knows about the UNIX system's printers. It does not know about any printer you have attached to your Macintosh. Well, almost... By going to the Setup Printer screen you can tell Pine to use an "attached-to-ansi" option. This causes Pine to send the message text down the connection to your machine surrounded by special codes to start and stop an attached printer. If and only if your terminal emulator recognises and acts on these "printer start" and "printer stop" codes can it redirect the arriving text to the printer. Thus in order for this to work your terminal emulator MUST support these codes. The free Mac Kermit program doesn't (I think). NCSA Telnet version 2.6 onwards does (the current version is 2.7b4). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 4 Nov 1995, Mark Drone wrote: > I would like to find out how to print to my Stylewriter from PINE. I've > run the setup and selected the local print option, but can't get it to > work. Thanks > > mdrone@isbe.state.il.us > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 03:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08002; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:40:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27838; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:23:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27832; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:23:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCPcD-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 03:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy Schlosser Subject: Imap Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:00:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port 143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, hit ctrl-d. When I do this, Imap doesn't seem to be ending, and therefore doesn't kill the process which I initiate when I do the telnet. Does anyone know why this could be happening? To let you know a little bit about the server, it's running bsdi unix. With that being all I know, I really couldn't help in the technical aspects of it. My second question has to deal with PCPine on my end. How much memory does pcpine require to run at full potential? Thanks in advance for any information anyone might have regarding these two matters. Guy (Guy@toledolink.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 04:48:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09965; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:48:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27745; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:33:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27739; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:33:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCQhq-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 04:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: Pico mystery... Date: 6 Nov 1995 08:29:17 GMT Message-Id: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> Can anybody help me solve this mystery: I edited a few files in pico, in my home directory. I know they are there, because I can recall them with ^R as long as I remember their name. The latter is sometimes a problem. But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff I've never heard of, but none of my files. So, where are they? How can I see them listed? Please e-mail if you have a suggestion... Simone P.S. Last time I tried the "ls" command I actually DID see my files listed. Today, it gave me a bunch of other stuff instead. Is my computer going nuts? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 05:48:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11232; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:48:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28571; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:33:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28565; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:33:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCRcZ-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 06 Nov 95 07:34:15 GMT Message-Id: Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 06:20:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11932; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:20:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29661; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:18:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29655; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:18:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCRPM-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vac%indirect.com@psg.com(Anne, Schoofs) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 06 Nov 95 07:17:24 GMT Message-Id: Spam Cancellation. For details see news.admin.net-abuse.announce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 07:12:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13267; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:12:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01003; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:45:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00997; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:45:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCSi0-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 06:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gloria Blumenthal Subject: Re: printing problem In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 06:32:59 GMT On 4 Nov 1995, Solis James wrote: > I suddenly find that the PRYNT command allows me to print less than a page > of output. What might I have done to limit the output on my printer. > > In order to get around the difficulty I EXPORT, download and print the > document with my word processor which is a round-about nuisance. > > Many thanks! Sol James sjames@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us > Same problem - if I EXPORT it will go to my home directory in the college (my server). Do you know how I would download and print the document? Would appreciate the help. Blumenth@trenton.edu.> > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 07:43:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14155; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:43:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01732; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:29:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01726; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:29:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTT5-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: romani@email.unc.edu (David Romani) Subject: Re: Multiple PC-Pine users on 1 PC Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 08:54:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com> Marty, In our context, running the app off of a Novel 3.12 server, we do this here by pointing PC-Pine for Windows to specific pinerc files using the -p switch. Set up the program icon to read f:\apps\winpine\pine.exe -p:\users\%user%\mail\pinerc, where %user% is an environment variable the Novell login process creates. This lets each user store their pinerc file and local mailbox collections in a secure place. You could, however, create multiple program manager icons, each hardcoded to a specific pinerc file. In article <47dbd7$285@miwok.nbn.com>, Marty Brenneis wrote: > How do I configure PC-Pine to allow for several people receiving mail on > the same PC? I'd like to have several Pine icons that are for the > different users and IMAP servers. > > Suggestions? > > Marty Brenneis > Industrial Magician > droid@well.com -- David Romani Library Systems Office Academic Affairs Library University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill romani@email.unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:04:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14973; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:04:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00397; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:24:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:24:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTNQ-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: newmedia@nether.net (New Media Productions) Subject: pine on svr4? Date: 6 Nov 1995 14:52:39 GMT Message-Id: <47l7fn$kun@news.cic.net> has anyone built or ported pine on an svr4 system? i need help! kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15047; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:05:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01001; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:49:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00992; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:49:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCTn2-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frederic Udina Subject: pine for PC, Mac Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 15:03:11 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Pine people, I've been converted to the Pine religion. It's a good mailer, I use it regularly on my unix box (hp-ux 9.01) One complain: I cannot switch folders by simly typing the folder name. I have a lot of mail folders, and looking for one is often harder than simply typing the name I know. Another complain: The news reader does not tell me if there are 'new news'. I have other readers (Tin or Nuntius in Mac) that flag the news folder that contain messages I have'nt seen yet. But anyway, these are minor comments. Now a couple of questions: Is there a Mac Version of Pine? The PC version, what network software requirement has? Does it save the folders in the local disk? Thank you, Frederic Udina _______________________________________________________________________ | voice: 34 - 3 - 542 17 56 Facultat de Ciencies Economiques | fax: 34 - 3 - 542 17 46 Universitat Pompeu Fabra | e-mail: udina@upf.es Balmes 132 | appleLink: spa0172 08008 Barcelona | Compuserve: 100555.603 SPAIN | W W Web: http://libiya.upf.es/ ___________________________________/_\_________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 08:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16633; Mon, 6 Nov 95 08:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01121; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01115; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55:26 -0800 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0tCTtE-0000GbC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 07:55 PST Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 07:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: Darren Stone To: Sven Guckes Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 50 line display? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting Darren Stone: > > Using elm & tin, my LINES=50 environment variable (under Unix) allowed me > > to see a good sized screenful of info. > > Well, I'm a pine convert now, but I'm stuck with a dinky little 25-line > > display that only fills half my screen. HELP! > > To cite a recent (very recent!) post to this list: > > From: gs01mew@panther.Gsu.EDU (Eric Wardowski) > Subject: Re: Screen size in Pine on Unix > Date: 30 Oct 1995 14:22:10 GMT > > [...] > Got an answer. I had to type "stty rows 42" to get the rest of the > programs to recognize the screen size. As far as the rest, I run > Procomm Plus 2.01 for DOS. I find that occasionally I have to type > - to do a "Reset Terminal" in Procomm when Pine had set the > terminal lines to 22 or 24. Now all works well! > > Summary: > Try "stty rows 50" at you shell and then start Pine again from that shell. > Just tried it. Unfortunately, "rows 50" is not accepted by stty. At least not the stty on my system. I could find no equivalent in the man page, either. Perhaps I have a funky version of stty. It claims "conformance with the X/Open Portability Guide Issue 3, 1989", for whatever that's worth! Oh well... I'll keep searching... - Darren From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:38:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19668; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:38:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03646; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03640; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:12 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11531; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:25:01 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 09:24:57 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: John Andrea Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pre-created addressbook ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, I'm interested in looking at some examples of address books that exhibit the parsing problems if you don't mind. I could figure out whether there is a bug that we should fix or whether something about the entries doesn't match the required syntax. I think that would be easier than trying to explain without an example. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 1 Nov 1995, John Andrea wrote: > I pre-create addressbook lists for faculty so that they may have a class > list ready to go. > The format I use is > classname tab classname tab ("lastname, firstname" comma > space space space "lastname, firstname" comma > ... > space space space "lastname, firstname" ) > > My instructions are just, download the file (the pile of them are in the > gopher) then > cat classname.pine >> .addressbook > > But sometimes it doesn't work. Returned messages are: > Unbalanced '"' > or > Unbalanced '<' > but the files are generated by a script so there are no unbalanced > delimiters, and i've checked the files by hand too and they appear fine. > (Yes i know, i've made sure that the tabs come down ok) > > So > 1) is there a limit on the size of addressbook entries ? > i don't think that this is my problem because one large class works > fine, and a smaller one appears to be a problem > 2) is it ok to use those dquote realname dquote entried > what is the exact wanted addressbook format ? i don't wanna have to > read the source code > and what is the relationship with .addressbook.lu ? > 3) is there some other obscure bug related to addressbooks > 4) anyone else doing this > > I've considered removing the realname sections, but then its hard for a > prof to try to matchup the usernames with their students when some leave > the class or new ones enter. Yes i know that finger info will be added, > but students like to put in funky names there so you don't actually get > their real names. > > More info. Using pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5 > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. > University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 > http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:47:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20106; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:47:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03851; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:32:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03845; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:32:10 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:31 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:31 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico mystery... To: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:31:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> from "Simone Shoemaker" at Nov 6, 95 08:29:17 am Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 390 Quoting Simone Shoemaker: > But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed > to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff > I've never heard of, but none of my files. > So, where are they? How can I see them listed? Send us your password and we'll take a look. :-) Simone - ask your sysadmin, ok?! We cannot look at your files. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 09:57:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20572; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:57:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05143; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05127; Mon, 6 Nov 95 09:30:55 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:30 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:28 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Q: How to verify that "elm" is a dead product? To: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:28:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Ed Greshko" at Nov 6, 95 12:06:58 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 937 Quoting Ed Greshko: > A. Notice that Sven Guckes is answering questions on the pine group. > Welcome? aboard Sven. :-) :-) Thanks! :-) Well, although I do a lot for ELM, I thought it was about time I looked into the questions that PINE users have aout email. I am collecting info for a "ELM vs PINE" comparison. So far, both have the pluses, but both could need some featured which users need nowadays. I will let you know about the comparison as soon as I have a little more time. Btw, I don't think that ELM is dead. The developers are busy coding. No, there is no release date. ;-) Sven Blatent plug for ELM: -- ELM - the "Easy Learn Mail" program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ ELM versions: Latest release: ELM2.4PL24 [940920] Latest ME patch: ELM2.4PL24ME8b [951012] Latest alpha: ELM2.5a08 [950908] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 10:41:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22508; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:41:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06435; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:15:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06429; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:15:30 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21221; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:13:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 10:13:35 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine compiled with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You don't really need this option for PC-Pine, since --unlike Unix Pine-- you can set the username variable in PC-Pine (as well as user-domain). -teg On Mon, 6 Nov 1995 martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de wrote: > Helo all, > > I need the PC-Pine binaries (pcpine_f.zip and pcpine_w.zip) compiled with > #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM > > Is there a kind soul that has already done this and could send me her/his > binaries? > > thanks in advance > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Martin Spohn | > Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 > Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de > Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 > Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 10:45:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22729; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:45:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06774; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06768; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:24:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCWAT-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 10:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders In-Reply-To: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de's message of 3 Nov 1995 12: 24:01 -0800 Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 17:43:22 GMT In article guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes: So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not escape "From_" lines? Sven [too lazy to test] If the line in question has a valid format (i.e. contains a properly formatted date after the From_), pine will parse the mail as two adjacent messages. If not, pine will see it all as one message. BTW, this message parsing convention is not at all unique to pine. The standard Unix mail utilities have always (?) used it. Regarding alternatives, I've seen lots of reports about Content-Length: breaking frequently. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 13:12:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00391; Mon, 6 Nov 95 13:12:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11155; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:56:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11149; Mon, 6 Nov 95 12:56:23 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA08185 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:56:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:46:57 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: PC-PINE + UUPC Possible ? (second call) Message-Id: Organisation: VANDERHORN VOF Address: Oranjelaan 40 City: 3135 ZP Vlaardingen Country: The Netherlands Voice: +31 10 4600411 Fax: +31 10 4342857 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to use Pine on a local mailbox ? We are using Pine for a couple of months on SCO Unix and OpenServer (MMDF). Because we have some travelling notebook's running Kendra's UUPC with a standard mail.exe, we wanted to change the Mail-User-Agent to PC-Pine. We have on hand the "pcpine_[fnpsw].zip" but as far as I can see, they all need access to a remote INBOX, and I like to work on a local file like $MAIL, so we can read and write our mail offline. --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 14:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03412; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:13:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13347; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13341; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:06:19 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20510; Mon, 6 Nov 95 14:04:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 14:04:12 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Guy Schlosser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Imap In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Guy Schlosser wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 01:00:38 -0500 > From: Guy Schlosser > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Imap > > I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main > server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and > there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to > solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After > setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port > 143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we > exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, > hit ctrl-d. . logout > My second question has to deal with PCPine on my end. How much > memory does pcpine require to run at full potential? Thanks in > advance for any information anyone might have regarding these two > matters. > PC-Pine needs a minimum of 500k low-memory. It doesn't use any extended/expanded memory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 17:01:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11450; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:01:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16130; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:20:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16124; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:20:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCbih-00038EC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: sender's address incorrect Date: 6 Nov 1995 20:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I view messages in the current folder (the I option), some of the sender's address are not shown correctly. Instead, the "To: myaddress" is shown. This only happens to some but not all e-mail. The problem this causes is that I cannot use R command to reply to the sender because of the incorrect address. Why this happens and how to correct it? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 17:01:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11518; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:01:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18015; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:35:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18009; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:35:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCbxv-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 16:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: How has e-mail changed your writing? Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 11:02:01 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 5 Nov 1995, Barbara Weiss wrote: > I'm working on a project for a masters-level class in Computers and > Writing, and would like to join/follow/play-with a discussion group on > how e-mail has changed your/our writing. Have I come to a likely > place? Has e-mail affected your attitude toward writing? mood? > frequency? style? Has it helped to flatten hierarchies, especially in > the workplace? Eliminated work? Increased it? Aided communication, or > hampered it? Anybody want to get us started? Thanks! > > Your pal, bew. Barbara, Yes, I believe email has changed the way we communicate in the work place. Until recently, I worked for the US Army Research Laboratory where we used email to assign, coordinate and report our work. I think the government, in general, has been very quick to use email. Government work is mostly about collecting and disseminating information and email is ideally suited to it. Since the Internet was initiated by the US Government's Advanced Research Project Agency, it was natural that email use should have spread quickly. Of course, it is easy now for anyone to get an email account. Because electronic mail provides written information to groups of people simultaneously, it improves over telephonic and oral communication, in many (most ?) cases. My group worked with data and analysis. The quality of information exchange was greatly improved once we adopted email. Before email, data was often transcribed from phone calls which usually resulted in less data communicated and more errors. After email, we obtained much more data which we could immediately cut and paste into our studies. I would not say the we did less work but more productive, quality work was done. In the old days, most written communication required approval up the hierarchy. The main reason for this was that it was written, which gave it more stature. Most of it was coordination between functionaries at the smae level of different organizations and did not need to be hoisted up the food chain. Today, this information is routinely exchanged between the functionaries with only a Courtesy Copy (CC) sent to the chiefs. Information gets to where it's needed sooner. Good luck with your thesis. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Altofirma Web Works Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ rosully@aww.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:03:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14029; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:03:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18689; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18683; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:55:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCdF0-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 17:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C Lance Moxley Subject: Highly Restricted /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed File Date: Mon, 06 Nov 1995 14:03:27 -0600 Message-Id: <309E6A0F.1FB@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am going to set up pine on a bunch of Unix boxes that are basically just dumb terminal servers. The imapd will be running on a seperate host. The use of pine will be through a common userid that is currently used in a menuing environment which allows the users to get to a few applications on the Internet. What I'm looking for is a /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file that would allow these users to access their remote mailbox and any folders, but now allow them to keep anything on those Unix terminal servers. I'm hoping that some of you have already set up something similar to this, so I don't have to re-invent the wheel. Thanks for any and all help. -- C Lance Moxley E-Mail: clm@uiuc.edu University of Illinois FAX: 217 244-1279 Urbana - Champaign URL:http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/clm/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:26:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14698; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:26:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19132; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:17:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sioux.eel.ufl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19116; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:17:28 -0800 Received: from iriquois.eel.ufl.edu (pawnee.eel.ufl.edu) by sioux.eel.ufl.edu (1.37.109.16/4.09) id AA064690646; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:26 -0500 From: "Srivatsan Rajagopal" Received: by iriquois.eel.ufl.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA069310643; Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:23 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 21:17:22 -0500 (EST) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pipe Command Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I would like to know how exactly is the message piped to a unix command using Pines "| Pipe" facility. Does it passsomething like : cat | I would like to know if the message can be passed on to another program without using the alt-editor command. Thanks. Srivatsan Rajagopal From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 18:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15528; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:47:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21003; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20997; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00739; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:40:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 1995 18:40:35 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine has no way to know where to send a reply... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > Date: 6 Nov 1995 20:21:28 GMT > From: yky356@emn.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: sender's address incorrect > > When I view messages in the current folder (the I option), some of the > sender's address are not shown correctly. Instead, the "To: myaddress" > is shown. This only happens to some but not all e-mail. The problem this > causes is that I cannot use R command to reply to the sender because of > the incorrect address. Why this happens and how to correct it? Thanks. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 6 19:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15959; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:05:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21356; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21350; Mon, 6 Nov 95 19:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCeCh-00038BC; Mon, 6 Nov 95 18:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) Subject: pico/pine for qnx? Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:51:09 +1300 Message-Id: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> Has anybody ported these programs across to QNX? I asked my sysadmin about compiling them but he says that they will not do this cleanly and he doesn't have the time to make it work. Can anybody point me towards either binaries or ready to compile source? Thanks in advance. -- -- Simon Lyall. | Current Address simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz ***PLEASE NOTE: This site tends to mung headers *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 04:15:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29675; Tue, 7 Nov 95 04:15:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28092; Tue, 7 Nov 95 03:58:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edison.ugr.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28086; Tue, 7 Nov 95 03:58:51 -0800 Received: (from jfborras@localhost) by edison.ugr.es (8.6.11/8.6.9) id NAA07876; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:00:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:00:42 +0100 (MET) From: Juan Francico Borras Correa To: news Pine Subject: UNSUBCRIBE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII UNSUBSCRIBE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 07:33:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04042; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:33:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01490; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:23:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01474; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:23:24 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:40:27 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA08851; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:41:06 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:41:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Info Mailing List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: ^L and checking for new News articles Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As most people are aware ^L in an ordinary folder (usually the INBOX) can be used to clear the screen and redraw it, and check for newly arrived messages in the process. However when reading a News folder (newsgroup) ^L only clears the screen and redraws it: it doesn't appear to check for any newly arrived articles in the newsgroup. This would actually be extremely useful, and also in keeping with its use in an ordinary folder. Any comments? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 07:35:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04090; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:35:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01288; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:12:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01282; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:12:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCpfF-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 07:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Hian Koon, Chua" Subject: Automatic BInhex decoding in Pine and 2 E-mail accounts from Pine/Elm/Euroda/Mail/MSMAIL Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:34:28 -0800 Message-Id: <30966C34.30EE@kos.sgh.gov.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have 2 accounts, one at kos.sgh and one at bbs.sas . I would like to forward all my mail from bbs.sas to kos.sgh. I heard that a .forward file is needed. Can anyone tell me how to do it? I make use of several mail programs. When I telnet to kos, I use pine, elm or Mail. When I am using Windows 3.1/3.11, I use Euroda or MSMAIl. Is there any way to make these program recognise that I have 2 accounts, and could mail from them individually. i.e. I am physically at SGH but my E-mail appears to be from bbs.sas. kos is a SUN Solaris 2.x machine and my PC is running Windows 3.1/3.11. As the E-mail administrator, I need to reconfgiure each program so that it can recognise 2 accounts. Any way to do this ? 2 sets of binaries are needed, 1 for Sun solaris, 1 for Windows 3.1/3.11. I am also having a slight problem with pine/elm/mail/MSmail/Euroda. How do I set up the Sun Solaris and Windows 3.1/3.11 so that it will automatically perform uudecoding of E-mails and unstuffit(unhqx, for mac files) from Elm/Pine/Mail(sun solaris) and MSMAIl/Euroda(windows 3.1/3.11), 2 set of binaries are needed, 1 for SUn and 1 for windows 3.1/3.11. Thank you for your help. Happy halloween, Hian Koon, Chua From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 08:41:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06120; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:41:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03806; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:27:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03800; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:27:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCqpg-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 08:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scheidell@fdma.com (Michael S. Scheidell) Subject: Re: pico/pine for qnx? Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:39:18 -0500 Message-Id: <47nr2m$3k6@fdma.fdma.com> References: <47lsft$st8@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz> Simon Lyall (simon@alpha.ocbbs.gen.nz) wrote: : Has anybody ported these programs across to QNX? I asked my sysadmin : about compiling them but he says that they will not do this cleanly and : he doesn't have the time to make it work. Can anybody point me towards : either binaries or ready to compile source? a 'sorta' stunted pico is at ftp://ftp.fdma.com/pub/qnx/ispell+pico. stunted, because it doesn't handle ^z, and doesn't handle SIGWINCH. -- Michael S. Scheidell Florida Datamation, Inc. Distributors of QNX Real Time OS (407) 241-2966 Definition of an Upgrade: Take old bugs out, put new ones in. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 09:29:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08925; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:29:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04184; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04178; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCrZ2-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmbarton@mci.net (Daniel Barton) Subject: Reply without ">" chars Date: 7 Nov 1995 15:52:06 GMT Message-Id: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? Thanks, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 11:21:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14754; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:21:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09046; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:12:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09040; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:12:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCtPQ-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karoly Negyesi Subject: Initial keystrokes? Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 14:27:53 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Would like to write a file like pine -I "..." I can not get Pine to accept a newline! Not with "... ... " or with " ...,CR,..." Any help? thanks, ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 11:53:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16597; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:53:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09474; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09468; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:31:03 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCsm8-000sEiC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:29 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:28 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:28:06 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Sven Guckes Cc: Matteo Mainetti , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can change the From-Header with PINE (You have to recompile it with another seting), but PINE is clever on this one: It wills end an extra Header with you original address. Take a look at this email with H (Full Headers), you will see it. Ciao, Michael On Mon, 6 Nov 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > Quoting Matteo Mainetti: > > Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > > in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > > If that is possible, everybody could sign her outgoing message with > > my name and address and send it to whomever ?! > > If that was possible to fake the From: line then, yes, anyone could send > letters to someone pretending to be you. > However, this cannot be done with (good) mailers. > > Unfortunately, spoofing mail is very simple to do with other programs. > If you want to make sure that noone can pretend to be you > then you should add information (eg a PGP signature) > which allows a check to be done on the contents. > Read about such things in "alt.security.pgp". > > Sven > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The people who really run organizations are usually found several levels down, where it is still possible to get things done. (Terry Pratchett, Small Gods) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 12:04:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17261; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:04:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08534; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:44:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax1.calarts.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08528; Tue, 7 Nov 95 11:44:34 -0800 Received: from indy1.calarts.edu by vax1.calarts.edu with SMTP; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by indy1.calarts.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/930416.SGI) id LAA00431; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:42 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:44:42 -0800 (PST) From: Susan Lowenberg X-Sender: susan@indy1.calarts.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending a Message to Everyone Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way in Pine to send a message to everyone who has an account on the machine? Thanks. Susan Lowenberg Information Resources and Theatre/Dance Librarian California Institute of the Arts 805-253-7888 susan@muse.calarts.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 12:38:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18940; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09881; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:27:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09875; Tue, 7 Nov 95 12:27:51 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 21:27 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Detecting headers in folders To: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 21:27:40 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Rick Troxel" at Nov 6, 95 05:43:22 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 811 Quoting Rick Troxel: > > So - how doee Pine recognize mails within mails? > > The FAQ says it does not regard the Content-Length header. > > Will Pine stumble over mails in mails when the MTA does not > > escape "From_" lines? > If the line in question has a valid format (i.e. contains a properly > formatted date after the From_), pine will parse the mail as two > adjacent messages. If not, pine will see it all as one message. Is a valid "From_" line enough? Or does Pine do a test on the following lines for a vaild header? > BTW, this message parsing convention is not at all unique to pine. > The standard Unix mail utilities have always (?) used it. > Regarding alternatives, I've seen lots of reports about Content-Length: > breaking frequently. Which mailers honor the Content-Length: line? Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 13:18:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21242; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:18:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11080; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:05:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11065; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:05:14 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCuHD-000sEvC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:05 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:04 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:04:31 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Susan Lowenberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending a Message to Everyone In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No. It could be if the sysadmin of that system has set up an alias for this. (Of course you can write a shellscript to generate yourself such an alias by taking all usernames from /etc/passwd or wherever the usernames live (/var/yp/... or so) Ciao, Michael On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Susan Lowenberg wrote: > Is there any way in Pine to send a message to everyone who has an account > on the machine? > > Thanks. > > Susan Lowenberg > Information Resources and Theatre/Dance Librarian > California Institute of the Arts > 805-253-7888 > susan@muse.calarts.edu > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The great thing about cats on top of the monitor is that they are near to hand when the screen gets a bit dirty ;O) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 13:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22516; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:46:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13432; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:41:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:40:57 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCsml-000sElC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:30 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 7 Nov 95 20:28 MEZ Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 20:28:22 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: JSmith Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Deleting an FTP.EXE file from Pine - How? In-Reply-To: <47k3jl$471@news.netshop.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From the Main Menu switch to Folder List (L) and move you cursor to the desired file. Then press D for Delete and PINE will ask you if you really want to delete it. Confirming with Y will destroy the file. It won't be recoverable by your Windows wastebasket. Ciao, Michael PS: If you don't have write permisions on that file OR directory you have to give yourself permissions to do so. PPS: If you received the file in an encoded email the decoder switches file permissions to "Only owner can read/write". On 6 Nov 1995, JSmith wrote: > > I have an FTP.EXE file in Pine. I'm using Windows 95 and the Plus > Program. There is an FTP.EXE file in my pine message box but I can't > delete it. Does anyone know how to delete .exe files from the Pine > section? I have no idea how it got there. Thanks. opdi@netshop.net > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE I believe I found the missing link between animal and civilized man. It is us. (Konrad Lorenz) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 14:04:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23477; Tue, 7 Nov 95 14:04:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13838; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13832; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26250; Tue, 7 Nov 95 13:55:26 -0800 Reply-To: Fred Cherry Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 12:05:24 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Cherry X-Sender: john1@earth To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Something about Pine is driving me sane! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 13:55:21 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I have a problem here that is driving me sane. I am trying to configure the pine program to read and post to newsgroups. I configured as follows: ---------------------------------snip------------------------------ personal-name = user-domain = smtp-server = nntp-server = inbox-path = folder-collections = news-collections = default-fcc = postponed-folder = read-message-folder = signature-file = global-address-book = address-book = feature-list = ---------------------------snip-------------------------------------- Now, after doing that and leaving Pine, and then opening the Pine program again, I get the following: -----------------------------snip----------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News-collection < (Remote) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] ? Help M Main Menu P PrevFldr - PrevPage D Delete R Rename O OTHER CMDS V [Select] N NextFldr Spc NextPage A Add ---------------------------------snip------------------------------- Then, when I highlight "[ Select Here to See Expanded List ]" on the bottom, it sez that the list is empty. So, then I try to add newsgroups. But, no matter what newsgroup I try to add, it tells me: "Newsgroup doesn't exist." What am I doing wrong? Fred Cherry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:17:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26990; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:17:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14416; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:10:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14410; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:10:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCx6U-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Automatic BInhex decoding in Pine and 2 E-mail accounts from Pine/Elm/Euroda/Mail/MSMAIL Date: 7 Nov 1995 09:19:26 -0800 Message-Id: <47o4eu$dft@shellx.best.com> References: <30966C34.30EE@kos.sgh.gov.sg> "Hian Koon, Chua" writes: >I have 2 accounts, one at kos.sgh and one at bbs.sas . I would >like to forward all my mail from bbs.sas to kos.sgh. I heard >that a .forward file is needed. Can anyone tell me how to do it? On your bbs.sas account create a .forward file in your home directory that contains the email address that the mail should be forwarded to. >I make use of several mail programs. >When I telnet to kos, I use pine, elm or Mail. >When I am using Windows 3.1/3.11, I use Euroda or MSMAIl. >Is there any way to make these program recognise that I >have 2 accounts, and could mail from them individually. I use pine's commmand line flags to do this, e.g.: pine -p pinerc.kos to use a different pinerc file. Note that in order to change the From line in pine you need to compile it with ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM not commented out. Another thing that I do is link my Mail and mail directories so that pine and elm use the same default directories for mail folders. I have details about this at: http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/usenet/software/nn/getting-started/faq-doc-58.html >I am also having a slight problem with >pine/elm/mail/MSmail/Euroda. How do I set up the Sun Solaris and >Windows 3.1/3.11 so that it will automatically perform >uudecoding of E-mails and unstuffit(unhqx, for mac files) >from Elm/Pine/Mail(sun solaris) and MSMAIl/Euroda(windows >3.1/3.11), 2 set of binaries are needed, 1 for SUn and 1 for >windows 3.1/3.11. How about just using MIME on all your platforms? Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:32:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27995; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:32:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15056; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:28:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15050; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:28:40 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCwVr-000sBOC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:29 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:28 MEZ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:27:48 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Karoly Negyesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Initial keystrokes? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about pine -I ".. \ ..." The backslash at the end prevents your shell fro thinking EndOfLine = EndOfCommand Ciao, Michael PS: Nice bears! On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, Karoly Negyesi wrote: > Hi! > > Would like to write a file like > > pine -I "..." > > I can not get Pine to accept a newline! Not with > "... > ... > " > > or with " ...,CR,..." > > Any help? > thanks, > > ___ ___ Charlie Negyesi chx@cs.elte.hu ___ ___ > {~._.~} {~._.~} (+361) 203-5962 (7pm-9pm) {~._.~} {~._.~} > _( Y )_ ( * ) Hungary, Budapest ( * ) _( Y )_ > (:_~*~_:) ()~*~() H-1462, P.o.box 503 ()~*~() (:_~*~_:) > (_)-(_) (_)-(_) May the Bear be with you! (_)-(_) (_)-(_) > > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE The shortest unit of time in the multiverse is the New York Second, defined as the period of time between the traffic lights turning green and the cab behind you honking. (Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 15:37:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28238; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:37:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16703; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:31:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16697; Tue, 7 Nov 95 15:31:15 -0800 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0tCwXM-000s90C; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:30 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:29 MEZ Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 00:29:21 +0100 (MET) From: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de X-Sender: michaelj@paddington To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As far as I recall it, this is a define in the sources. So only recompiling can change this. Ciao, Michael PS: Perhaps PINE 3.92 will do it? :-) On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? > > Thanks, Daniel > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE "They're filming Rocky V now. This one's being billed as `Rocky's Greatest Challenge', so I guess there's an IQ test involved." (Jay Leno) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 16:23:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00500; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:23:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18095; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:18:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mizar.usc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18089; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:18:17 -0800 Received: (kozinski@localhost) by mizar.usc.edu (8.7.1/8.6.4) id QAA22701; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:18:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 16:18:04 -0800 (PST) From: The Easy Rider To: Daniel Barton Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a related question: Is there any way of removing all the >>>s from messages that have been forwarded to you before you pass them on? Ciao. AK On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? > > Thanks, Daniel > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | > | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | > | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 17:01:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02385; Tue, 7 Nov 95 17:01:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19121; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:56:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.96.96.111] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19115; Tue, 7 Nov 95 16:55:58 -0800 Received: (from dhs1@localhost) by pub.zjpta.net.cn (8.6.11/8.6.11) id IAA25093; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:55:19 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:55:19 +0800 (CST) From: dhs1@pub.zjpta.net.cn To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII UNSUBscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 18:09:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05454; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:09:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21010; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21004; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:05:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tCzoq-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: pine for PC, Mac Date: 7 Nov 95 15:42:18 GMT Message-Id: References: Frederic Udina writes: >Hi Pine people, >I've been converted to the Pine religion. It's a good mailer, I use it >regularly on my unix box (hp-ux 9.01) >One complain: I cannot switch folders by simly typing the folder name. I >have a lot of mail folders, and looking for one is often harder than >simply typing the name I know. I do this all the time. 'g', then I am prompted for folder name. If I type part of the name in followed by , it completes the name if possible. Isn't this what you want and then some? >Another complain: The news reader does not tell me if there are 'new news'. >I have other readers (Tin or Nuntius in Mac) that flag the news folder >that contain messages I have'nt seen yet. >But anyway, these are minor comments. >Now a couple of questions: >Is there a Mac Version of Pine? >The PC version, what network software requirement has? Does it save the >folders in the local disk? >Thank you, >Frederic Udina >_______________________________________________________________________ > | voice: 34 - 3 - 542 17 56 >Facultat de Ciencies Economiques | fax: 34 - 3 - 542 17 46 >Universitat Pompeu Fabra | e-mail: udina@upf.es > Balmes 132 | appleLink: spa0172 > 08008 Barcelona | Compuserve: 100555.603 > SPAIN | W W Web: http://libiya.upf.es/ >___________________________________/_\_________________________________ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 18:50:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06719; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:50:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20482; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:45:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20470; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:45:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD0Tx-00038BC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 18:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qed!mccarthj@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Julie A. McCarthy) Subject: Using group names Date: 7 Nov 1995 21:53:22 GMT Message-Id: <47okgi$33v@knot.queensu.ca> Is it possible to show only the group name in your messages, rather lines of individual names? If you have a group made up of more than a few people it is annoying to have to scroll through the list of names to get to the body of the note. Julie A. McCarthy PHONE: (613) 545-2277 Department of Economics E-MAIL: mccarthj@qed.econ.queensu.ca Queen's University HOME PAGE: http://qed.econ.queensu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 19:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08438; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:55:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22830; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:50:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ahcbsd1.ovnet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22824; Tue, 7 Nov 95 19:50:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (jcobb@localhost) by ahcbsd1.ovnet.com (8.6.5/8.6.6) id WAA20089; Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:49:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 22:49:57 -0500 (EST) From: "James M. Cobb" To: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de Cc: Daniel Barton , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Friend, Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give it a one letter filename. Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type in the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first line of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). Of course, if the note already had >'s in it when you first re- ceived it... Cordially, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 7 22:35:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12442; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:35:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25478; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25472; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:31:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD3zv-00038EC; Tue, 7 Nov 95 22:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Subject: terminal control characters in pine messages Date: Tue, 7 Nov 1995 11:15:37 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I recently received a message that flashed quickly across my screen in pine. I was told that this message probably included terminal control code set up by my shell. I'm not sure what this means & wonder if somebody could shed some light on it for me. Thanks, David Clark dclark@stripe.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 00:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15505; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:25:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26944; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26938; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:21:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD5jz-00038EC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: Tue, 07 Nov 1995 19:15:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> In article , kozinski@mizar.usc.edu (The Easy Rider) wrote: > I have a related question: Is there any way of removing all the >>>s > from messages that have been forwarded to you before you pass them on? > Ciao. AK I have been hacking pine to do this. because of the nature of the stream filters inside pine it is very difficult. So far I have not been successful. Another thing that i am trying to get it to do is to STOP quoting a message once it hits a line of -----------------------'s (which denote a forwardedmessage block on some mailers) If anyone has got this working let me know. The place to look is filters.c, look for the gf_prefix() function. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 01:08:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17043; Wed, 8 Nov 95 01:08:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28968; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28962; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:56:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tD6GA-00038EC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 00:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect Date: 7 Nov 1995 13:36:45 GMT Message-Id: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> References: <47lqo8$auc@emngw1.eastman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine >has no way to know where to send a reply... > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to list the incoming e-mail. The sender's address always shows up correctly in UNIX mail. But when using the I option in the PINE's main menu to list the incoming e-mail, the sender's address is shown as "to: yky356@....". I found that if the sender's address shows up only in the first line of the header and nowhere else, PINE has the problem of figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem figuring out sender's address. Why? ------------- example of a problematic header -------------------- >From MARIAS@mdli.com Fri Nov 3 10:58:14 1995 Received: by eastman.com id AA31534 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for yky356@eastman.com); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:16 -0500 Received: from gatekeeper.eastman.com by eastman.com with SMTP id AA49451 (5.67b/SMI-4.1 for ); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:15 -0500 Received: by gatekeeper.eastman.com; id LAA24441; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 11:10:44 -0500 Received: from nomad.holonet.net(198.207.169.2) by gatekeeper.eastman.com via smap (g3.0.1) id xma024437; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:10:40 -0500 Received: from jubal.mdli.com by nomad.holonet.net (MARIAS@mdli.com) id HAA02047; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:48 -0800 Received: from gimli.mdli.com by jubal.mdli.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/ 9393.1) id AA55750; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:15 -0800 Received: from mdli.com by mdli.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6626) id <01HX76ED7VVKHWA5X0@mdli.com>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Incompatibility of ISIS/Base and WorldScript II To: yky356@eastman.com Message-Id: <01HX76ED8OTEHWA5X0@mdli.com> X-Vms-To: IN%"yky356@eastman.com" X-Vms-Cc: MARIAS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: RO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 02:56:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20954; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:56:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00153; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:42:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00146; Wed, 8 Nov 95 02:42:34 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:38:59 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:38:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: popd for sco.... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, This is pine related.....sort of.... We are working on a project in China and need a popd that runs on SCO Unix. The person working on the project saying: I next got the ipopd package which comes with pine (imapd-3.6-beta from ftp.cac.washington.edu). This package is comprehensive (3.5 MB of source) and has a makefile entry for sco. Unfortunately, it seems to be missing a crypt library required for passwords. Also, its pop-2 daemon doesn't recognize VistaMAIL's USER message. Is this right? My understanding was that VistaMAIL is pop-2. So, does anyone have a compiled popd for SCO? Or, I believe there is an International replacement for the SCO crypt library. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 05:20:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26361; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:20:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03175; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:07:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03169; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:07:24 -0800 Received: from ciint by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA11977 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:07:20 +0100 Received: from pulsar.ciint.nl by ciint.ciint.nl id aa27661; 8 Nov 95 13:48 WET Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:46:55 +0100 (WET) From: Richard Gering To: Ed Greshko Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: popd for sco.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > Hi, > > This is pine related.....sort of.... > > We are working on a project in China and need a popd that runs > on SCO Unix. The person working on the project saying: > > I next got the ipopd package which comes with pine (imapd-3.6-beta from > ftp.cac.washington.edu). This package is comprehensive (3.5 MB of source) and > has a makefile entry for sco. > > Unfortunately, it seems to be missing a crypt library required for passwords. Your problem comes from the fact that SCO does not ship ANY type of crypt library with their system, because they do not known in advance if the software will be sold inside the U.S.A. or outside of it. So, as I understand it, you'll have to ask them for this library and depending on your whereabouts you will get either the U.S. domestic version (including the DES decrypt calls) or the International version (crypt only). Unfortunately, you'll only notice the missing crypt libraries at the moment you want to compile an important piece of software, right? I wonder why SCO cannot ALWAYS ship an International crypt-only library and allow U.S. customers to upgrade to the full-blown version. Is that also against U.S. Government policies? > So, does anyone have a compiled popd for SCO? Actually, there IS a complete popd package for SCO (installable with custom and everything). It can be found on ftp.sco.com in the TLS directory. Look for files beginning with tls049*. If you cannot get to these files I can mail you a copy. Keep in mind that this is a regular POP3 server and that is has nothing to do with IMAP (though that didn't seem to be what you were asking for). > Any help would be greatly appreciated. I hope that this will do it ;-) > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > Best regards, - Richard Gering. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Gering (rgering@ciint.nl) | ...at a time when men were REAL men and | | CI International B.V. | wrote their own device drivers (Linus) | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:04:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27162; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:04:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03863; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:57:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03857; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:57:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDAzo-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 05:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: 7 Nov 1995 23:19:37 GMT Message-Id: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the prompt: Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 273 bytes Message 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] To see the "Included Message", I have to work a few layers down through the ViewAttach functionality. A faster way to see it is to select (R)espond and then (C)ancel when I'm finished reading, but that is neither elegant nor convenient. Other colleagues who use mh (or other MUAs) don't have this problem. What's going on? Is there anything I can do to fix it? -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:27:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27689; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:27:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05447; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:17:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05441; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:17:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDBGQ-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Subject: Bounce notice MIME type 8.7.x disturbing to PINE - change format? Date: 8 Nov 1995 10:46:02 GMT Message-Id: <47q1pa$9nb@news1.mpcs.com> Subject says it all, the content type of the 8.7.x bounce reports gives pine 3.91 the willies (crashes pine in fact, when accidentally calling up the attachment viewer). Is it possible to coerce sendmail without opening it up into using the old MIME format so as to retain the ethical benefit of having the message text off in an attachment? -- Howard Goldstein http://www.tapr.org/~n2wx/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:44:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28189; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:44:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05722; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:34:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fred.Cary.mci.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05716; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:34:32 -0800 Received: by fred.cary.mci.net (8.6.12/kaw-mci.net/feb95) id JAA07410; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:34 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:34:34 -0500 (EST) From: "Daniel M. Barton" X-Sender: dmbarton@fred.cary.mci.net To: "James M. Cobb" Cc: michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, I've tried that, but I want to be able to use the reply function to automatically put in all the email addresses into the header of the reply. I know I can then delete the note below and include an expunged copy of the note, but its not exactly user friendly. Thanks, Daniel --------------------------------------------------------------- | Daniel M. Barton Internet: dmbarton@mci.net | | MCI Internet Services World Wide Web: | | Cary, North Carolina, USA http://infopage.mci.net | --------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 7 Nov 1995, James M. Cobb wrote: > > > Friend, > > > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, > give it a one letter filename. > > Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position > the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type > in the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first > line of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). > > Of course, if the note already had >'s in it when you first re- > ceived it... > > > Cordially, > > Jim > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 06:54:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28422; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:54:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05929; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:46:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05917; Wed, 8 Nov 95 06:46:06 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:42:30 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 22:42:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Richard Gering Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: popd for sco.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Richard Gering wrote: > Actually, there IS a complete popd package for SCO (installable with > custom and everything). It can be found on ftp.sco.com in the TLS > directory. Look for files beginning with tls049*. If you cannot get to these > files I can mail you a copy. > > Keep in mind that this is a regular POP3 server and that is has nothing > to do with IMAP (though that didn't seem to be what you were asking for). > > I hope that this will do it ;-) Thanks for all the wonderful information! Now the only problem is I stupidly forgot to mention that I need a pop2 server. :-( :-( I hope my only recourse is *not* to attempt to get the crypt library for the machine in China. Who knows how long that could take? Besides, its China.....license, license? :-) Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 07:52:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00255; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:52:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05755; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:42:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05749; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:42:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDCa2-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 07:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: Q: How to read "Base64 attached" message Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 10:57:28 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received a mail with 5 attachements, and pine can't read them When I tried to see the message with elm, I saw: --==_19951106192553_6069 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; name="COMPUTER.COM" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="COMPUTER.COM" Content-Description: COMPUTER.COM Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 Q29tcHV0ZXIgQ29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMgSSAtLSBXaWRlIEFyZWEgTmV0d29ya3MNCkNvdXJz ZSBjb2RlDQpNb2R1bGVzIDENClByZXJlcXVpc2l0ZSBjb3Vyc2UocykgIG5vbmUNClRlYWNo ------------------------------------------------------------------------- What is Base64? How to decode it ? When I tried to use the view attachment of pine "it" said [VIEWER Result: xdvi.exe: DVI file doesn't start with preamble] Can somebody please help me by explaining how to read this mail ? *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:38:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02540; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:38:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08059; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:19:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08051; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:19:25 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01544; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:17:52 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:17:52 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Gras Regis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: How to read "Base64 attached" message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I suspect you have a malformed MIME-gram... probably the "Mime-Version: 1.0" header is missing. If that's the case, you can either save the message to a folder and manually edit it to add the above header, then use Pine to read it, or you can try using CMU's munpack program on it, which I think will try to figure things out even if the MIME header is missing. -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > I received a mail with 5 attachements, and pine can't read them > When I tried to see the message with elm, I saw: > > --==_19951106192553_6069 > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; charset="us-ascii"; > name="COMPUTER.COM" > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="COMPUTER.COM" > Content-Description: COMPUTER.COM > Content-Transfer-Encoding: Base64 > > Q29tcHV0ZXIgQ29tbXVuaWNhdGlvbnMgSSAtLSBXaWRlIEFyZWEgTmV0d29ya3MNCkNvdXJz > ZSBjb2RlDQpNb2R1bGVzIDENClByZXJlcXVpc2l0ZSBjb3Vyc2UocykgIG5vbmUNClRlYWNo > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > What is Base64? How to decode it ? > > When I tried to use the view attachment of pine "it" said > [VIEWER Result: xdvi.exe: DVI file doesn't start with preamble] > > Can somebody please help me by explaining how to read this mail ? > > *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* > * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * > * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * > * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * > * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* > *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:39:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02586; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:39:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08276; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:26:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08270; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:26:15 -0800 Received: from s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu (apu@S97072.U97.stevens-tech.edu [155.246.137.180]) by menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA11794 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:26:13 -0500 Received: (from apu@localhost) by s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA02933; Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:25:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 11:25:48 -0500 (EST) From: Apu X-Sender: apu@s97072.u97.stevens-tech.edu To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there > >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine > >has no way to know where to send a reply... > > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the > enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to > list the incoming e-mail. [...] > figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." > one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem > figuring out sender's address. Why? The 'problem' from your point of view is that Pine is only looking at the "From: " address. mail is either only looking at the "From " address or is looking at both the "From " and "From: " addresses. (The ':' is _very_ significant.) The debate as to whether this is a bug or feature is left up to others. The "From " line has a very specific format and is what determines where each message begins as they are stored (in Berkeley mail format, that is) as one long file, one message immediately after the other.* The "From " line is also useful for determining the true mailer of the message as that line is added by the first system handling the message, and short of recompiling sendmail (or its equiv.), cannot be altered by the user (at least not easily). The "From: " line has a much looser format, and can much more easily be changed by the user to reflect different e-mail addresses and user names. *-This is why whenever a line begins with "From " (without the quotes), you will see it as ">From " (again, without the quotes)...this is to prevent the mail client from getting confused and thinking a new message has begun when, in fact, it is just a regular line in the message body. As far as I know (I haven't specifically looked up the relevant RFCs), the "From: " header is required for a properly formatted e-mail message, so I would argue that you are just seeing a side-affect of receiving mail from a non-standard mail program. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apu............................................apu@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu WARNING: I DISCRIMINATE E-mail is dealt with immediately; Snail mail, if I have nothing to do (never) or I'm bored (sometimes) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 08:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03012; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:45:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08252; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08246; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:31 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01897; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:25:25 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: yky356@emn.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sender's address incorrect In-Reply-To: <47nndd$1eoi@emngw1.eastman.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "From MARIA..." line is *NOT* part of the RFC-822 header set. It is a message separator line used in some, but by no means all, mailbox formats. This is out-of-band information that is not part of the actual message, and depending on the system, is often unreliable or unobtainable. For Pine to know who the message is from, the message must have a valid RFC-822 "From: " header (that's the one with the colon). The absence of the 822 From: suggests a bug or misconfiguration of the MUA or mail transport software at the originating site, although in cases where UUCP is involved, I believe it often falls to the receiving MTA to fix the messages before storing them in the incoming mail spool. -teg On 7 Nov 1995 yky356@emn.com wrote: > dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > > > >The "To: myaddress" is only shown if you sent the message, or if there > >is no valid sender's address in the message. In the latter case, Pine > >has no way to know where to send a reply... > > > > The problem is that there is indeed a valid address of sender (see the > enclosed) and there is no problem when using the UNIX mail program to > list the incoming e-mail. The sender's address always shows up correctly > in UNIX mail. But when using the I option in the PINE's main menu to > list the incoming e-mail, the sender's address is shown as "to: > yky356@....". I found that if the sender's address shows up only in the > first line of the header and nowhere else, PINE has the problem of > figuring out sender's address. If, however, there is another "From:.." > one or two lines above the "To:.." line, then PINE has no problem > figuring out sender's address. Why? > > ------------- example of a problematic header -------------------- > From MARIAS@mdli.com Fri Nov 3 10:58:14 1995 > Received: by eastman.com id AA31534 > (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for yky356@eastman.com); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 10:53:16 -0500 > Received: from gatekeeper.eastman.com by eastman.com with SMTP id > AA49451 > (5.67b/SMI-4.1 for ); Fri, 3 Nov 1995 > 10:53:15 -0500 > Received: by gatekeeper.eastman.com; id LAA24441; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 > 11:10:44 -0500 > Received: from nomad.holonet.net(198.207.169.2) by > gatekeeper.eastman.com via smap (g3.0.1) > id xma024437; Fri, 3 Nov 95 11:10:40 -0500 > Received: from jubal.mdli.com by nomad.holonet.net (MARIAS@mdli.com) > id HAA02047; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:48 -0800 > Received: from gimli.mdli.com by jubal.mdli.com (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/ > 9393.1) > id AA55750; Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:52:15 -0800 > Received: from mdli.com by mdli.com (PMDF V4.3-10 #6626) > id <01HX76ED7VVKHWA5X0@mdli.com>; Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) > Date: Fri, 03 Nov 1995 07:52:41 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Incompatibility of ISIS/Base and WorldScript II > To: yky356@eastman.com > Message-Id: <01HX76ED8OTEHWA5X0@mdli.com> > X-Vms-To: IN%"yky356@eastman.com" > X-Vms-Cc: MARIAS > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Status: RO > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 09:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05248; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:19:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09210; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:57:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09204; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:57:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDDko-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 08:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thouveni@cicg-communication.grenet.fr (Frederic Thouvenin) Subject: how to install pine? Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:15:58 +0100 Message-Id: <47qaieINN9es@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> We try to install pine on SunOs UNIX. We allready found that pine is avaible from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine But how can we transfer it?? Thanks for help Fred Thouvenin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 09:28:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05762; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:28:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:12:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08547; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:12:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDE11-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 09:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Pico mystery... Date: 7 Nov 1995 18:14:56 -0800 Message-Id: <47p3r0$82q@shellx.best.com> References: <47kh0t$b6g@news2.cts.com> simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) writes: >I edited a few files in pico, in my home directory. I know they are >there, because I can recall them with ^R as long as I remember their name. >The latter is sometimes a problem. > >But when I ask to see a list of my files (from the unix promt I changed >to my home directory and asked "ls", it lists all kinds of weird stuff >I've never heard of, but none of my files. > >So, where are they? How can I see them listed? >From within pico type: ^R ^T to get into the file browser. You'll see a list of your files and at the top it will tell you what directory you're in. -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:07:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11662; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:07:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12661; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:37:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12655; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:37:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDFK8-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: TRN: What's the best way to keep an address book? Date: 7 Nov 1995 19:17:36 -0800 Message-Id: <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> References: <46vi0o$gj5@uiah.fi> ex@uiah.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes: >You can use your favourite e-mail program with trn. I use elm by inserting >the following lines into my startup file (.tcshrc in my case). > >setenv MAILPOSTER 'elm -i %h -s \"Re: %S\" %t' #Use elm for e-mail >setenv MAILHEADER " " #Dump headers > >I believe you can invoke pine in a similar fashion, although I'm not totally >sure as I'm not a Unix (nor Pine) guru. Unfortunately Pine 3.91 and below do not allow you to mail messages from the command line so I don't think you'll be able to do this. (Pine folks: Will 3.92 be able to do this type of thing?) What I do if I want to mail a news message to someone in my addressbook is bounce it to my email address (using "|/usr/bin/mail nancym@ii.com") and then forward the message from Pine. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:42:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13478; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:42:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12422; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:13:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12416; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:13:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDFtx-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barnes@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com (Simon Barnes) Subject: UIDL support in IPOP3D Date: 8 Nov 1995 15:23:13 GMT Message-Id: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> I notice that Netscape v2b2 expects the POP server to have support for an optional command called UIDL in order to "leave mail on server" (in fact, I had to switch my Mac off at the wall to prevent it from deleting all the mail from the server when Netscape found that the UIDL command didn't exist). Therefore it would be quite convenient if the UIDL command, documented in RFC1725, could be added to the ipop3d client shipped with imap-3.5 or -3.6. Simon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 11:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14230; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:54:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14266; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:28:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14260; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDG6X-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrej Borsenkow Subject: Q: Mailing list for Pine? Date: 8 Nov 1995 14:49:29 GMT Message-Id: <47qg1p$kge@nervous.pdb.sni.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks! Is there any mailling list for Pine? Thanks in advance! ------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:01:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17973; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:01:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14791; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14780; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDH4l-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: proveit@mack.rt66.com (Mr. Sarang Gupta) Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages? [serious question] Date: 7 Nov 1995 21:57:06 -0700 Message-Id: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> References: In article , Matteo Mainetti wrote: >Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message >in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? On our work system, if you use ELM to send someone a message, the From line looks like: **From sgupta Wed Dec 15 1996 [etc] except without the two astericks (I just added those to prevent confusion). Pine ignores this From line and the message appears to come from a mysterious unknown user. While this is cute for roughly 10 seconds, it can also be quite annoying ("hey, why are you sending me anonymous mail and then signing it?") especially since the Reply command doesn't work properly ("no valid receipients for this message" or whatever). So, the answer to your question is: "Use ELM and hope the receiver uses Pine"... but my question is: "OK, it's cute.. now, how do I get around it?" Sarang (proveit@rt66.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:05:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18720; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:05:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16055; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:29:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16049; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:29:22 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16073; Wed, 8 Nov 95 12:28:10 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:28:09 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: TRN: What's the best way to keep an address book? In-Reply-To: <47p7gg$919@shellx.best.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, 3.92 will still require interactive involvement to send a message. -teg On 7 Nov 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > ex@uiah.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes: > >You can use your favourite e-mail program with trn. I use elm by inserting > >the following lines into my startup file (.tcshrc in my case). > > > >setenv MAILPOSTER 'elm -i %h -s \"Re: %S\" %t' #Use elm for e-mail > >setenv MAILHEADER " " #Dump headers > > > >I believe you can invoke pine in a similar fashion, although I'm not totally > >sure as I'm not a Unix (nor Pine) guru. > > Unfortunately Pine 3.91 and below do not allow you to mail messages > from the command line so I don't think you'll be able to do this. > (Pine folks: Will 3.92 be able to do this type of thing?) > > What I do if I want to mail a news message to someone in my addressbook > is bounce it to my email address (using "|/usr/bin/mail nancym@ii.com") > and then forward the message from Pine. > > Good luck, > Nancy > -- > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 13:38:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20473; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:38:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17833; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17825; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDHxb-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 13:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 09:43:28 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> In article <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) wrote: > My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). > When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph > (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the > prompt: > > Parts/attachments: > 1 Shown 273 bytes Message > 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text > ---------------------------------------- ELM, for some wacky reason is making the Content-Type of the top-level message "Message/rfc822".. This is really bizarre! RFC 1521 states that Message/rfc822 is for encapsulated messages. text/plain seems to be a much better choice for the toplevel content-type. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:00:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27177; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:00:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20830; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:38:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20824; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:38:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDK1Z-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plisker@netcom.com (Peter Lisker) Subject: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 09:15:10 GMT A little while ago I was deleting files from my home directory. In the middle of this I got disconnected. This has been happening for DAYS now on Netcom (when you are lucky enough to be able to log in). They just say "sorry if this caused you any inconvenience"). Or it is so S-L-O-W that I might as well be using a 150 baud modem. When I was finally able to log on again I was going to use Pine to compose a letter of complaint to support@netcom but when I got into Pine I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to do me the favor of a restore? All I know is I am getting really fed up with having to put up with their technical difficulties and even though this one MIGHT be my fault I plan to switch providers soon. When I called tech support at midnight I had to wait 20 minutes to be told no. They were probably swamped with calls from other Netcom subscribers who have been unable to log on or stay logged on if they are fortunate to connect. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:08:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27667; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:08:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22140; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:43:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22134; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDK6F-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 15:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: Re: Imap Date: 8 Nov 1995 16:41:30 GMT Message-Id: <47qmjq$43g@hecate.umd.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guy Schlosser wrote: >I am working with a network administrator to set up Imap on my main >server that I use to log into the internet. We set it up today, and >there's been a couple problems that if anyone has any clue as to how to >solve, it would be appreciated. The first main problem is this. After >setting the server up, we wanted to check it by doing a "telnet" to port >143. When we do this, neither one of us know the command to quit, so we >exit out of telnet by hitting ctrl-] and when we get the telnet prompt, >hit ctrl-d. The command structure and the commands recognized by an IMAP server are detailed in RFC 1730 (with additional information in RFCs 1731, 1732, and 1733). These RFCs are included with the source of the University of Washington's IMAP server, in the Doc subdirectory. In particular, each command sent to the server needs a four character identifier, a command tag, and the necessary arguments. A minimal set of commands to test if the IMAP server is working is as follows. (Here words in all caps are the command tags, and lower case are the arguments you need to supply. The exception is the INBOX argument, which is a special name designating the user's default mailbox.) a000 LOGIN username password a001 SELECT INBOX a002 LIST a003 FETCH 1 RFC822 a004 LOGOUT Kevin Coombes From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 16:53:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29670; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:53:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23046; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:48:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23040; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:48:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDL7U-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 16:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: PC-PINE and blank messages Date: 8 Nov 1995 16:48:46 GMT Message-Id: <47qn1e$4a4@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I'm trying to install PC Pine and running into some problems. The IMAP server at the other end has also just been installed; it's the IMAP4 server from the University of Washington. I used telnet to connect directly to port 143 on the host, and I can do everything I'm supposed to be able to do interactively, so I believe the IMAP server is okay. One of the PCs is running Novell Netware 3.12. I installed pcpine_n onto the machine. It never manages to connect to the server; I always get a host unknown message. This even happens if I use the dotted-quad numeric IP address of the host instead of the domain name. The second PC is running a newer version of Novell Netware. (4.02??) On this PC, pcpine_n is able to connect to the IMAP server and it tells me the correct number of available messages. Unfortunately, it insists that all of the messages have completely blank subject lines and message bodies. That makes it easy to read my mail in a hurry, but it just happens to be incorrect behavior. Does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong? Kevin Coombes From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03736; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26559; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:03:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:03:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMGY-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 17:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericm@walrus.com (Eric Maquiling) Subject: popclient + pine help Date: 8 Nov 1995 17:54:40 GMT Message-Id: <47qqt0$chn@walrus2.walrus.com> Hi everyone, I'm trying to get my mail on my server and reading it on my local Linux box at home. I used poplient and got this error message # message in folder popclient: openmailpipe: exec: No such file or directory reading message #. 5 <----what's this # mean BTW I'm assuming that if popclient works, I could just open pine on my linux box and read and write messages. Any help on this is appreciated eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:22:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04528; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:22:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27125; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27119; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMVv-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gt1355b@acmey.gatech.edu (Chris) Subject: reply to: Date: 8 Nov 1995 19:15:55 GMT Message-Id: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? thanks, chris -- Chris Ricker : gt1355b@prism.gatech.edu : The Georgia Institute o' Technology "I got a threshold, Jules. I got a threshold for the abuse I'll take. And you're crossing it. I'm a race car and you got me in the red. Redline 7000, that's where you are. Just know, it's...dangerous to be drivin' a race car when it's in the red. It could blow." --Vincent Vega-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:23:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04581; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:23:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27111; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27105; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:18:48 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04233; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:16:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 18:16:48 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Peter Lisker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Peter, The only *tiny* glimmer of hope I might offer is to poke around in your home directory to see if you have a mail directory somewhere with your missing folders in it. It's a longshot, but there is a small chance that just your Pine config file got trashed, and maybe they are really there but Pine just doesn't know where to look for them. If the folders are really gone, you are at Netcom's mercy, and it is hard to imagine anything that you could do from within Pine that would trash a whole bunch of folders at once. -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Peter Lisker wrote: > A little while ago I was deleting files from my home directory. In the > middle of this I got disconnected. This has been happening for DAYS now > on Netcom (when you are lucky enough to be able to log in). They just say > "sorry if this caused you any inconvenience"). Or it is so S-L-O-W that I > might as well be using a 150 baud modem. > > When I was finally able to log on again I was going to use Pine to > compose a letter of complaint to support@netcom but when I got into Pine > I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). > I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but > they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I > can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are > my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any > suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to > do me the favor of a restore? > > All I know is I am getting really fed up with having to put up with their > technical difficulties and even though this one MIGHT be my fault I plan > to switch providers soon. When I called tech support at midnight I had to > wait 20 minutes to be told no. They were probably swamped with calls from > other Netcom subscribers who have been unable to log on or stay logged on > if they are fortunate to connect. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 18:34:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04876; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:34:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26283; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:29:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26277; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:28:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDMgi-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 18:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin R. Coombes" Subject: Re: PC-PINE and blank messages Date: 8 Nov 1995 21:50:53 GMT Message-Id: <47r8nt$bjk@hecate.umd.edu> References: <47qn1e$4a4@hecate.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I realize it's bad form to follow up your own posting, but I've discovered some additional information about my problem. Readers of the first installment will recall that I'm trying to get the latest version of PC Pine (acquired from the University of Washington in the form of the file pcpine_n.zip) to work on a PC running Novell Netware 4.2. The symptom I described previously is that Pine conects to the remote IMAP server, lists the correct number of messages, but they have blank headers and bodies. While trying to figure out what was going on, I discovered: If new mail arrives while PC Pine is running, then suddenly the mail becomes visible. If the folder is open at the time, then only the new messages are visible. If the folder is closed but Pine is running, then opening the folder will make all the mail visible, both new and old. Has anybody seen this before? Does anyone have any idea what's happening? Thanks again, Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:18:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07995; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:18:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29278; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:14:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29272; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:14:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOMq-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anders@uss-enterprise.bu.edu (Anders M Jorgensen) Subject: How to convert RMAIL folders to Pine Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <47rf31$18f@news.bu.edu> Piners, I'm thinking about switching from emacs RMAIL to PINE, but I have many many megabytes of mail saved in RMAIL format. Does anyone know how to convert RMAIL mailboxes back to unix native mailboxes WITHOUT going through every single message in the mailbox and re-saving it to a new mailbox? Also, in the ~/mail directory that PINE creates, is it possible to have subdirectories of additional mailboxes so that you can sort your mailboxes? This is possible with RMAIL, but my short test of PINE did not convince me that it would recognize mailboxes saved in subdirectories of ~/mail. Thanks, Anders -- Anders M. Jorgensen IN:anders@uss-enterprise.bu.edu / anders@bu.edu Center for Space Physics SPAN:BUASTA::ANDERS Boston University Fax +1 617 353 6463 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:23:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08089; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:23:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28391; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28379; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOSC-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 12:04:34 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Nov 1995 michael.joswig@hamburg.netsurf.de wrote: | As far as I recall it, this is a define in the sources. So only recompiling can change this. | On 7 Nov 1995, Daniel Barton wrote: | | > Here's one I haven't figured out, is there a way to reply to a note | > and not have pine add ">" characters at the beginning of the line? | > | > Thanks, Daniel It may not be necessary to recompile Pine, *IF* you are using Unix Pine. I use the shell script below to change the '>' characters to something else when I wish to. This technique works provided you are not already using the alternate editor feature of Pine. To use it, go into Config and enable-alternate-editor. For the alternate editor, specify the shell script. Then just invoke Ctrl-_ to make the change. I am not a sed expert (I got this from someone else), but I suppose you could easily change it to _delete_ the leading '>' rather than just substitute for it. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/csh -f # Above line may be changed for an appropriate shell. # For use on Un*x and Un*x-like systems only. # Change the character(s) in the second set of double quotes # to the desired mail/post-quoting character(s) (after # the second slash). Note that spaces are significant # within each pair of double quotes. sed s/"^> "/"| "/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 rm ~/pico.$$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 20:58:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08974; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:58:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29911; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:49:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29905; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:49:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDOuy-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 20:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: reply to: Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:13:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> On 8 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? If you are using Pine 3.91, from the Main Menu go into Setup and Config. Scroll down to customized-hdrs: and add the field you want. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:17:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09457; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:17:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29343; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:14:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29331; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:14:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDPGY-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: kermit Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:16:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from > school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. > Thanks, > Jill You might try the newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.misc . Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:33:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09825; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:33:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00636; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:29:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00630; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:29:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDPXf-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: 8 Nov 1995 11:47:48 -0800 Message-Id: <47r1h4$pvg@shellx.best.com> References: <47nvb6$jbm@news.internetmci.com> Paul O Bartlett writes: > It may not be necessary to recompile Pine, *IF* you are using Unix >Pine. I use the shell script below to change the '>' characters to >something else when I wish to. This technique works provided you are not >already using the alternate editor feature of Pine. To use it, go into >Config and enable-alternate-editor. For the alternate editor, specify >the shell script. Or just leave the editor setting blank, i.e.: editor= And then when you do ^_ you can specify whatever script or editor you want. >#!/bin/csh -f ># Above line may be changed for an appropriate shell. ># For use on Un*x and Un*x-like systems only. ># Change the character(s) in the second set of double quotes ># to the desired mail/post-quoting character(s) (after ># the second slash). Note that spaces are significant ># within each pair of double quotes. >sed s/"^> "/"| "/g < $1 > ~/pico.$$ >cat ~/pico.$$ > $1 >rm ~/pico.$$ This is very cool - thanks for posting it! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 21:38:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10016; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:38:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00720; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00714; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:51 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09890; Wed, 8 Nov 95 21:34:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 21:34:47 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Anders M Jorgensen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to convert RMAIL folders to Pine In-Reply-To: <47rf31$18f@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Nov 1995, Anders M Jorgensen wrote: > Also, in the ~/mail directory that PINE creates, is it possible to have > subdirectories of additional mailboxes so that you can sort your mailboxes? > This is possible with RMAIL, but my short test of PINE did not convince me > that it would recognize mailboxes saved in subdirectories of ~/mail. Anders, True hierarchical folder support is not yet available (and won't be in 3.92) but is definitely planned for sometime next year. In the meantime, you *can* create folder collections which just happen to be subdirectories of other folder collections, or just set them up as parallel directories. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:08:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10776; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:08:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00382; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:04:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00376; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:04:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQ5V-00038DC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: UIDL support in IPOP3D Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 20:02:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qi11$s09@alpha.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> On 8 Nov 1995, Simon Barnes wrote: > I notice that Netscape v2b2 expects the POP server to have support for > an optional command called UIDL in order to "leave mail on server" (in > fact, I had to switch my Mac off at the wall to prevent it from > deleting all the mail from the server when Netscape found that the UIDL > command didn't exist). Therefore it would be quite convenient if the > UIDL command, documented in RFC1725, could be added to the ipop3d > client shipped with imap-3.5 or -3.6. The UIDL command is supported in the ipop3d client in imap-4. It is impossible to add it to imap-3.x since imap-3.x does not have UID support. Unfortunately, Pine 3.92 will go out with imap-3.6, because it would further delay the already too-long delayed release of 3.92 to upgrade it to imap-4 at this late date (there are *major* interface changes in imap-4). But 3.92 should be the last release that uses any imap-3.x version. In fact, the only reason why imap-3.6 exists at all is for Pine; imap-3.6 will die once Pine no longer needs it. You can run the imapd and ipop[23]d servers from imap-4 with Pine 3.91 and Pine 3.92. In fact, we do that ourselves on several of our servers. We still run the imap-3.6 imapd on our main server, but only because we want to make sure that it still works and doesn't succumb to software rot. ;-) -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11268; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01553; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:14:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01547; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:14:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQC9-00038HC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) Subject: Re: ELM-generated confusion for PINE Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 10:31:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com> In article , srl@taligent.com (Steven Loomis [Sir Lemon Stove]) wrote: > In article <47opi9$t07@fcnews.fc.hp.com>, mullaney@fc.hp.com (David > Mullaney) wrote: > > My work group, runs on HP-UX 9.07, with ELM (70.85) and PINE (3.91). > > When any of my colleagues post an email from ELM, the first paragraph > > (text followed by two or more carriage returns) is replaced with the > > prompt: > > > > Parts/attachments: > > 1 Shown 273 bytes Message > > 1.1 Shown 7 lines Text > > ---------------------------------------- > > ELM, for some wacky reason is making the Content-Type of the top-level > message "Message/rfc822".. This is really bizarre! RFC 1521 states > that Message/rfc822 is for encapsulated messages. text/plain seems to > be a much better choice for the toplevel content-type. I think I have figured this mystery out. Since ELM is claiming that the BODY text of your message is itself another message, PINE (rightly so) is expecting your message to contain headers like To:, From: Date: and so on. The first paragraph of your coworker's message is considered to be the "header" part. It doesn't contain any headers PINE knows about, but that's OK (says pine), i'll just throw the unknown headers out. I did an experiment on the mail that was sent to me. I put "\n\nFoo: bar\n\n" between the "real" headers and the text of his message. (\n is return, of course). Then, the message appeared correctly and the Foo:bar was nowhere in sight. If PINE had a "show full headers" command for encapsulated messages, well then it would work. Like you said, hitting reply is the only way to view it. So to summarize: * this is a bug in HP's ELM -- it's putting the wrong content-type on messages. * pine seems to be working correctly -- although a "show full headers on enclosures" command would be nice. * As a workaround, have your coworker hit return a couple of times so as to leave some blank lines at the top of all messages he sends out. This seems to make pine behave correctly. -- Steven R. Loomis srl@taligent.com Taligent, Inc. Cupertino, California, USA http://www-dcg/srl (Taligent internal) http://www.sj-coop.net/~srl (anywhere else) All opinions are mine only, not Taligent's From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:38:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11760; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:38:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00937; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:34:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00929; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:34:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQWJ-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Ken Yap) Subject: building pine3.91 on Solaris2.4 with gcc2.7.0? Message-Id: <47p2i2INNkph@seurat.syd.dit.csiro.au> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 01:53:06 GMT Has anybody succeeded in doing this? The only thing that doesn't build is pine and this is what happens when I do ./build sol: Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c addrbook.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:40, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:46, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: conflicting types for `rename' /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: previous declaration of `rename' cc is a link to gcc. The two occurences of rename in the gcc includes are: /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:extern int rename(const char *, const char *); /usr/GNU/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:extern int rename(const char *, const char *); which look consistent to me. I've tried looking for the prototype for rename in the pine code but got lost in a twisty maze of OS dependent files. Any clues? Thanks, Ken ken@syd.dit.csiro.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 8 22:49:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12031; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:49:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02143; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:44:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02137; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:44:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDQhC-00038BC; Wed, 8 Nov 95 22:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: haagmans@cobra.unm.edu (Martin Haagmans) Subject: PC-Pine to VMS Host Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 20:56:39 GMT Message-Id: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. The error message I get is: "Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) For the "Inbox Path" I have entered: {cobra.unm.edu}newmail. I do have a subdirectory called "mail" on the server in my account. Yes, it is IMAP compliant Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? Martin Haagmans haagmans@cobra.unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 00:15:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13838; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:15:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02514; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:09:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02508; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:09:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDS10-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 00:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Un fleuron du nil Subject: Few Questions Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 14:22:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi guys, I have some questions about pine: 1) what is the format of the command that I have to put in my config file? Usually from my unix shell, I type: text2ps (filename) | lpr -P (printer name) --- to print a text file lpr -P (printer name) (filename) 2) How can I change this sentence which is by default in my reply message: On Nov 8, un fleuron du nil wrote, I saw a lot of people who changed their reply sentences. So I want to change this sentence. Is it possible to do that with pine ???? 3) I will explain the situation: In my addressbook, I have a lot of people who are related to different kind of groups. What I want to do is: If i receive a mail from "person A", and i want to save his mail. I want it to saved automatically in "folder newsgroup" instead of beiing saved in "folder saved-messages". If I receive a mail from "person B", i wanted to be saved in "folder pine-stuff" instead of beiing saved in "folder saved-messages" .... etc ..... "person A" and "person B" are in my addressbook file. How can I configure that so it does it automatically instead of doing each time manually for each mail. thanx in advance rick. ------ R. ACKAD IRC: BoZZo ||| Le SeUl Et L'uNiQuE FlEuRoN McGill University Garfi ||| Du Nil. DiFfIcIlE a TrOuVeR Montreal CANADA Garfield- ||| D'aUtRe. Si J'eN TrOuVe Un ricobey@ee.mcgill.ca ||| AuTrE, Il Ne SeRa PaS Si http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~ricobey ||| CoOl QuE MoI. HeHeHeHeHeHe http://www.smartec.com/~rico ||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 01:56:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16291; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:56:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05000; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:45:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04994; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:45:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDTV2-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 01:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: kermit Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 16:21:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. Thanks, Jill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 04:33:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20221; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:33:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05803; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05797; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:55:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDVV0-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 03:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: relkay01@fiu.edu (Ronell (Ron) Elkayam) Subject: Re: Reply without ">" chars Date: 9 Nov 1995 03:08:17 GMT Message-Id: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> References: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On 7 Nov 1995 19:55:18 -0800, James M. Cobb (email: jcobb@ahcbsd1.ovnet.com) posted: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give > it a one letter filename. > Open the compose message screen. Type in your message. Position > the cursor a few lines below your message. Press control-R, type in > the one-letter filename. The note will appear (with the first line > of the note on the line where you positioned the cursor). Exporting is fine, but it creates a garbage file you have to remember to delete afterwards (or even worse -- to exit pine, delete it, and come back). I personally prefer the method of (F)orwarding the message, entering the person's email address, then removing the unwanted crap on top by hitting ^K a few times. I have very bad memory and I hate checking for temp files. -- W/love, | Owner & Programmer: The People's Voice BBS @ 305-937-6468 | No pregnant women or heart-conditioned senior citizens are Ron | allowed. Under 42 must get parents' permission to call. Miami, FL | "THIS IS WHAT YOUR MOTHER ALWAYS WARNED YOU ABOUT" Don't bother to call... FCC disconnected the line on basis of board being "obscene". New number coming soon! Tapes avail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 05:02:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21124; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:02:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07841; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:50:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07835; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:50:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDWOs-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 04:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Untraceable Messages? [serious question] Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 19:54:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47pdb2$5eo@mack.rt66.com> The short answer to your question is that Elm and/or the mailer on your system is misconfigured. The message delimiter line which starts with "From " is not a From: header line. Furthermore, a From: line is required in all RFC-822 messages. Elm on your system is configured not to generate a From: header, apparently assuming that the mailer will insert the missing header. The mailer on your system is configured not to generate missing From: headers, apparently assuming that no user mail programs would neglect to write proper From: headers. Correcting either of these behaviors will fix the problem. On 7 Nov 1995, Mr. Sarang Gupta wrote: > In article , > Matteo Mainetti wrote: > >Is it possible to change the "from:" part of an outgoing message > >in such a way that there is no way to recover the real sender ? > > On our work system, if you use ELM to send someone a message, the From > line looks like: > > **From sgupta Wed Dec 15 1996 [etc] > > except without the two astericks (I just added those to prevent > confusion). Pine ignores this From line and the message appears to > come from a mysterious unknown user. While this is cute for roughly 10 > seconds, it can also be quite annoying ("hey, why are you sending me > anonymous mail and then signing it?") especially since the Reply > command doesn't work properly ("no valid receipients for this message" > or whatever). > > So, the answer to your question is: "Use ELM and hope the receiver > uses Pine"... but my question is: "OK, it's cute.. now, how do I get > around it?" > > Sarang (proveit@rt66.com) > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:02:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22512; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:02:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07713; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:50:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07707; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:50:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDXME-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scott.crittenden@megasystem.com (Scott Crittenden) Subject: Compiling v3.91 on Solari Message-Id: <215.4856.3079@megasystem.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 1995 21:28:00 -0800 Greetings! I'm having some difficulty compiling Pine 3.91 on my Solaris2.4 x86 machine. I'm using Solaris' cc. Pico, imap, etc. all compile fine but I get multiple 'idnetifyer redeclared' errors in addrbook.c. For example: "usr/include/stdlib/h", line 142: indentifyer redeclared: getsubopt current: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int previous: function(pointer to pointer to char, pointer to const pointer to char, pointer to pointer to char) returning int : "usr/include/stdio.h", line 285 The other errors are similar, just different function names (rename, etc.) Anyone know what's up? TIA! Scott Crittenden scott@intercomm.com scott@megasystem.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internet: scott.crittenden@megasystem.com (Scott Crittenden) This message was processed by NetXpress from Merlin Systems Inc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:04:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22614; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:04:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07787; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:56:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07781; Thu, 9 Nov 95 05:56:41 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA14754 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:54:39 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA18920 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:56:15 +0300 (OET) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 16:57:04 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Qouted-printable forever? X-Sender: bor@itsmx1.mow.sni.de Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! Sorry if I make the old question - I am new to Pine community. i am using Pine (3.91) for some time and find it really nice. But one thing: Pine seems to always encode 8bit text in qouted-printable. The problem is, not all are using MIME (I have friends with FIDO Mailboxes - how they are supposed to read it?) As Internet now-a-days is more or less 8bit clean, is it possible to just send clean 8bit text? To make it clear - I have to write in Russian, which is _all_ 8 bit so the text in QP is _totally_ unreadable -:) It would be nice to do it on per-message basis, or at least just switch it off completely. Thanks for any hint ------------------------------------------------------------ Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 06:42:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23487; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:42:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09342; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09336; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDY4H-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 06:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jordan S. Gussin" Subject: Printing Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 08:20:26 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How come I can't print anything off of Pine? I am using a HP Desk jet 500 printer. How in the world can I make this work? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 07:14:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24473; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:14:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08939; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:05:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08933; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:05:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDYVj-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 07:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: POSSIBLE TO RESTORE LOST PINE FOLDERS? Date: 8 Nov 1995 23:06:41 -0800 Message-Id: <47s9a1$hns@shellx.best.com> References: plisker@netcom.com (Peter Lisker) writes: >I discovered to my horror that ALL my folders were GONE (except INBOX). >I called netcom Tech support and they told me they COULD do a restore but >they would not do so unless I can prove it's their fault which frankly I >can't say for sure whether it is or not. All I know is these folders are >my life and I need the info contained within. Can anyone offer any >suggestions whether it's technical advice or how I can lean on netcom to >do me the favor of a restore? Even if you are able to talk them into doing a restore for you, this is an unacceptable response from them (unless you regularly have them do restores) and if I were you, I'd start making plans to switch providers. About a month ago I accidentally deleted a couple files from my account at halcyon.com and I asked them to restore them for me. They did it quickly and professionally without any complaints or chastisement. There are plenty of good providers out there and there's no reason to put up with this type of customer "support." Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 08:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27821; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11897; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:40:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11891; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:40:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDa18-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: how to install pine? Date: 9 Nov 95 04:45:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <47qaieINN9es@cicg-communication.grenet.fr> thouveni@cicg-communication.grenet.fr (Frederic Thouvenin) writes: >We already found that pine is availble from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine >But how can we transfer it?? Most web browsers can transfer files. Just give the URL. Or use ftp. Better yet, get "ncftp" to do transfers. Use a transfer program to get it... Sven -- Have I Been Trolled? -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 08:58:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28304; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:58:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11220; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:41:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11214; Thu, 9 Nov 95 08:41:27 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA14072; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:36:31 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA176807 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:42:37 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:42:37 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: kermit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you still need help you can e-mail me, I work with kermit and I can send you some info. On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Wed, 8 Nov 1995 jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > > > Hi, > > Does anyone know how to use and install kermit? I have a disk from > > school with kermit on it, but don't know how to install it. > > Thanks, > > Jill > > You might try the newsgroup comp.protocols.kermit.misc . > > Paul > -------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett > P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. > Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key > -------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 10:19:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03212; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:19:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13993; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:11:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13987; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:11:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDbNm-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 10:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jel@swlrbd.msd.ray.com (John Laundree{79236}) Subject: Registered mail Date: 6 Nov 1995 18:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <47lism$54b@swlab1.msd.ray.com> Hi! I am a new pine user and this may be a relatively simple question, although I could not find the info I need at the washington site. I would like to send email and when it is read by the recipient, I would like the originator to be notfied. (just like registered mail of the postal system) Can pine do this? What type of flag or settings do I need. Thanks, John Laundree jel@swl.msd.ray.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 11:39:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07018; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:39:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16386; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:32:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16376; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:32:35 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.2.21) with smtp id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by toluol.zedat.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (160.45.40.10) with smtp id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by leibniz.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Received: by landau.math.fu-berlin.de (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.14) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 95 20:32 MET Message-Id: From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Registered mail To: jel@swlrbd.msd.ray.com (John Laundree{79236}) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:32:19 +0100 (MET) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <47lism$54b@swlab1.msd.ray.com> from "John Laundree{79236}" at Nov 6, 95 06:07:18 pm Organization: Free University of Berlin X-Url: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 594 Quoting John Laundree{79236}: > I would like to send email and when it is read by the recipient, I would > like the originator to be notfied. (just like registered mail of the postal > system) Can pine do this? What type of flag or settings do I need. Every mail can be sent with a Return-Receipt-To which will give you a return mail when the receiving MTA has delivered the mail to the mailbox. But there is no may to tell whether a person has read a mail. Forget it! Read this page and you may understand: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.reading.acknowledgement.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:11:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08642; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:11:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17690; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:51:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17681; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:51:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDcwz-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: reply to: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 17:20:23 +0100 Message-Id: References: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47qvlb$4f1@catapult.gatech.edu> On 8 Nov 1995, Chris wrote: > How do I set a Reply To: field in pine? Set the field in your config screen (customized headers). Bye. Ralf *Die Wege des Herrn sind untergruendig...aehhh...unergruendlich* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:24:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09590; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:24:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16944; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:56:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16938; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:56:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDd4X-00038KC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 11:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gras Regis Subject: Q: How to discard automatically certain mail ? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 13:55:57 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does somebody know a method to discard automatically certain mail ? On our site, we receive a lot of "undesirable" messages. It is possible to configure pine to eliminate these messages ? (With or without response) Any info would be great. *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* * Regis Gras | Tel (33) 76 82 62 60 * * Laboratoire CEPHAG | ou (33) 76 82 64 26 * * ENSIEG, Rue de la Houille Blanche BP 46 | Fax (33) 76 82 63 84 * * 38402 Saint Martin d'Heres CEDEX, France | e-mail gras@cephag.observ-gr.fr* *---------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 12:34:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10271; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:34:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18393; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18387; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:29 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09059; Thu, 9 Nov 95 12:16:12 -0800 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Martin Haagmans Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine to VMS Host In-Reply-To: <47r5de$ra6@lynx.unm.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Martin, Try "telnet cobra.unm.edu 143" and you will see that Cobra is not, in fact, "IMAP compliant"... -teg On Wed, 8 Nov 1995, Martin Haagmans wrote: > I am trying to setup PC-Pine to get mail from a VMS host that > runs MultiNet. The problem is the entry for "Folder Collections" I > have tried all kinds of variations with no luck. > The error message I get is: > "Can't connect to cobra.unm.edu,143: Refused (10061) > For the "Inbox Path" I have entered: {cobra.unm.edu}newmail. > I do have a subdirectory called "mail" on the server in my account. > Yes, it is IMAP compliant > Has anybody succesfully connected to a VMS host? > > Martin Haagmans > haagmans@cobra.unm.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 13:43:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13792; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:43:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19436; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19430; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDeK0-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha1jco@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (jennifer.coutts) Subject: Pine leftovers!?! Date: 9 Nov 1995 14:00:27 -0000 Message-Id: <47t1hr$8fa@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> I keep getting files called .pine-debug1,2,3, etc. left over after quitting Pine. Have I inadvertently switched into a 'debug' mode, and if so how do I switch back out again? Ta! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 13:44:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13882; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:44:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20170; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20164; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:16:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDeJb-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: username_i@dep.state.fl.us (Your Name) Subject: forward as a batch? Date: 8 Nov 1995 13:53:32 GMT Message-Id: <47qcos$4fo@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 As an example, I receive about 10 messages from one listserv that I would like to forward to my office email or a friend's email. Is it possible to send all 10 at once, rather than individually forwarding them? I can sort first by 'from' or 'subject' and that would place them all together in the index. TIA jeanxyz@freenet.scri.fsu.edu youland_j@dep.state.fl.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16598; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:32:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21146; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21140; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDfJt-00038HC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Walter E. Dence, Jr." Subject: [Yes], but no AddressBook with Ctrl-T Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 14:33:13 GMT When I'm in the "To" field of a header, and press ^T, Pine just says [Yes]. I expected it to jump into my .addressbook and to then allow me to insert an address. Is there something I need to do in configure? I'm using Pine 3.91 on a Sun4. Thanks, Walt Dence ===================================================================== WALTER E. DENCE, JR. Data Acquisition Specialist Mine Electronic Design Branch, Code 2610 Commander, Dahlgren Division Office (WO): 301-394-1707 Naval Surface Warfare Center Office VoiceMail (PC): 904-234-4079 Coastal Systems Station Fax: 301-394-4510 Code 2610 (W. Dence) DSN (AutoVoN): 290-1707 10901 New Hampshire Ave. EMail: wdence@relay.nswc.navy.mil Silver Spring, MD 20903-5640 Home: 301-229-7394 (This is personal opinion, not official opinion.) Science is a baloney detector ---Carl Sagan ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:33:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16655; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:33:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21797; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21790; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:21:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDfHj-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae197@torfree.net (Ka Y. Lam) Subject: Pine & Procmail & lockfile Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 20:18:20 GMT Hello, I want to use procmail with pine. The question I have is, how pine handle lockfile? I mean, does it care at all if there is a lock file exist for a incoming folder? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Ka Lam Internet Addresses: n/a | | E-mail Address: ae197@freenet.toronto.on.ca | | or Ka.Lam@boardbob.tor250.org | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 14:34:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16812; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:34:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21413; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:07:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcmetro.cc.mo.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21229; Thu, 9 Nov 95 14:02:06 -0800 Received: by kcmetro.cc.mo.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16918; Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:57:21 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 15:57:19 -0600 (CST) From: Edward Soldanels Reply-To: Edward Soldanels To: pine-info List , AIX-L List Subject: Running pine under Rsh restricted shell Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sending this question to two lists: AIX-L and Pine-Info. Does anyone know what changes need to be made to allow the pine mail program to work properly in a restricted shell (Rsh) on an IBM RS6000 running AIX 3.2? I can get pine to receive e-mail, but not to send. I have tried running pine in debug mode, but the debug log does not indicate that there are any problems, yet the mail is not delivered. I can change to a different shell (ksh), then pine works fine. Edward Soldanels soldanels@kcmetro.cc.mo.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 15:49:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20252; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:49:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24025; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24019; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDgTN-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eli@cal44a034.student.utwente.nl (Eli-Jean R. Leyssens) Subject: Other user name in From: line Date: 9 Nov 1995 16:28:12 GMT Message-Id: <47ta6s$ahs@driene.student.utwente.nl> If I send a mail using pine from my machine now the From: line becomes eli@BugHunter.student.utwente.nl but I would like it to be e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl Changing the user-domain from BugHunter.student.utwente.nl into student.utwente.nl isn't a problem, just change the user-domain= line in .pinerc I am however unable to change the user-name, nothing in the .pinerc file looks to be able to help me out nor does 'man pine'. Any help would be grately appreciated. Greetz, Eli-Jean P.S. if you would like to reply to this via email, please use e.j.r.leyssens@student.utwente.nl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 15:49:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20282; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:49:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23511; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23504; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:36:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDgUe-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raskin@aoml.noaa.gov (Craig Raskin) Subject: pine and mh format Date: 9 Nov 1995 12:29:04 GMT Message-Id: <47ss6g$h9n@wave.aoml.erl.gov> Does anyone know if pine can support messages saved in mh format? Please respond via mail. Thanks in advance. -- ************************************************************************** Craig Raskin, raskin@aoml.noaa.gov "The optimist proclaims that we live Unix System Administrator in the best of all possible worlds, U.S. Dept. Of Commerce and the pessimist fears that this NOAA/AOML, Miami Fl. is true." -- James Branch Cabell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:08:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24975; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:08:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26317; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26311; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:02:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhqX-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epsilon Subject: Missing body -- only QUIT ! Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 10:33:32 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is acting up on me these days. Some mails come to me with a missing body and only a header. I have also observed < QUIT > appended to some messages I get where no such were there before. Any ideas what caused this to happen, and - before I forget - any remedies ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:18:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25366; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:18:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26438; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26432; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhvo-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Export (was: Re: Reply without ">" chars) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 11:53:58 -0500 Message-Id: References: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> [Somebody else wrote:] > Export the note to your home directory. For simplicity's sake, give > it a one letter filename. There seems to be a possible bug in Unix Pine 3.91. Whenever I export a message to a file, the current date and time get appended to the first line, so that I have to edit out the trash. Inconvenient. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 17:19:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25413; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:19:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26801; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26791; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:12:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDhw8-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: How to discard automatically certain mail ? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 12:01:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 9 Nov 1995, Gras Regis wrote: > Does somebody know a method to discard automatically certain mail ? > On our site, we receive a lot of "undesirable" messages. > It is possible to configure pine to eliminate these messages ? > (With or without response) > Any info would be great. Pine by itself will not do this. You have to use some other program which will preprocess the mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Unix systems, procmail and (elm) filter are commonly used. Nancy McGough has some good material on this on her World Wide Web pages, if you can get to them. As a starting point, look at URL: http://www/jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine.html URL: http://www/best.com/~ii/internet/pine.html (Nancy, please correct me if I'm wrong.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:17:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28888; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:17:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29185; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:12:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29173; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:12:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDjrm-00038BC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: forward as a batch? Date: 9 Nov 95 19:25:02 GMT Message-Id: References: <47qcos$4fo@epic68.dep.state.fl.us> username_i@dep.state.fl.us (Your Name) writes: >As an example, I receive about 10 messages from one listserv that I would >like to forward to my office email or a friend's email. Is it possible >to send all 10 at once, rather than individually forwarding them? Save all to a file. Compress file. Send file as an attachment. Something like "gzip file | uuencode | mail address". Only do this with people who know how to unpack a compressed file. Sven -- http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/.signature From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29033; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:27:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29349; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29343; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:22:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tDk1K-00038DC; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: Export (was: Re: Reply without ">" chars) Date: 9 Nov 1995 19:10:01 GMT Message-Id: <47tjm9$231@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <47rrb1$3d7@isis.fiu.edu> Paul O Bartlett (pobart@access.digex.net) reshaped the electrons to say: : There seems to be a possible bug in Unix Pine 3.91. Whenever I : export a message to a file, the current date and time get appended to : the first line, so that I have to edit out the trash. Inconvenient. Must be a local problem with your site. I've never noticed it. -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "It's a damn poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 9 19:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29073; Thu, 9 Nov 95 19:28:03 -0800 Received: