From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 03:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19579; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18371; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:33:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18365; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:33:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdEbL-00038EC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu (Vinod Vijay Tandon) Subject: How do I move the cursor word by word (not by characters)? Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:11:44 GMT Message-Id: <3vkgj0$sqh@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: I was just wondering, How can i move my cursor word by word when composing a mail message? I think the editor that pine uses is pico im not sure ( It resembles it a whole lot) Im tired of looking like a fool try to get from part of a sentece to the next, tapping that button like a madman. Incedently in case anyone else wants to know.. to get to the end of the sentence tpye ctrl-e to get to the beggining of the sentence type ctrl-a much like most editors thanks vinny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 04:14:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20665; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:14:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19020; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:08:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19014; Tue, 1 Aug 95 04:08:02 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdFCt-000s9tC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:09 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:07 MESZ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 13:07:50 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: BJ Adkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: folder.lock problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hmm, do you have a directory /mail and do you have write permissions on it? try "touch /mail/tryit" if you get the same error again you either have to create /mail and check your permission or check your config. BTW on UNIX mail is kept in /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, I've never seen /mail? Ciao, Michael J On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, BJ Adkins wrote: > Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error > message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or > directory. Is there a setting I need to check > somewhere? > > -- > BJ Adkins > PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii > (808) 956-5335 > adkins@Hawaii.Edu > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQB1AwUBMB4K+xWxHCTRfN4BAQFSEgL+O2NCafW+CHgGRXmqIvbOfrFC12HDUSVG MFoKvpGPuxteze9M2+C5hCOMiS7t40xw0Ew0V7DhmsU/Tabyc9r4r9MRQGFlUjcc 91hvspj/HYgYJxjBEdIzTJqp7N5XBF5x =NvgT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 05:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22778; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13703; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:54:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13697; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:54:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdGnl-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 05:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 1 Aug 1995 06:41:51 -0600 Message-Id: <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Thanks to Timothy Cheney, but part of the problem here is that the pipe command doesn't seem to be recognized, because it is part of an "old-growth" config option according to the man page, but i don't see it as an option in the standard .pinerc, so i'm kind of lost here. or, maybe i haven't used the pipe at the right place? maybe that helps define where i am lost? thanks, gideon Timothy P. Cheney (tcheney@lexis.pop.upenn.edu) wrote: : The pipe command will allow you to cause a received message to be used : as standard input of a program like a filter. : For composing messages, you can use an alternate editor. Look : for one that will allow you to define a macro that accomplishes what : you want to do. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 07:21:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24688; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:21:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21519; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:14:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21513; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:14:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdI0s-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 07:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: Sending a message to all PINE users. Date: 1 Aug 1995 13:37:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vlamu$4hm5@rose.muohio.edu> References: <3vbjsk$17a@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: RO X-Status: Try 'man wall' Jeffback (jeffback@aol.com) wrote: : We are running PINE on a SCO UNIX 486 computer. Is there any way to send : a message to all of our 90 users at once. : I've seen a message sent from a "SUPERUSER" that appeared to send a : message to all users but I cannot get it to work on our system. : Anybody have any ideas??? : -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 10:48:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03445; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:48:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18804; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:44:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18798; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:44:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdLKm-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:22:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: Greetings, I received I multi-part MIME message, in around 60 parts (each part being about 30k in length). The headers appear as: (Full headers on) >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< [message 1] Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; number=1 [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" , [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846" > THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT. Your mail reader does not support MIME. > You may not be able to read some parts of this message. --PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846 Content-ID: <41_68_1_807257378> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: (the message went here) ------------------------------- [user id] --PART.BOUNDARY.0041.807257846 Content-ID: <41_68_1_807257713> Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: (octet stream) >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< [message 2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 01 Aug 95 02:09:36 -0600 From: xxxxx To: "Christopher Curtis" , [...] X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; number=2 [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l (etcetera to message 6x). >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. If the last, will Pine (4.00?) support it? -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 13:54:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11529; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:54:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00990; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:47:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00984; Tue, 1 Aug 95 13:47:06 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdOFB-000s9SC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 22:48 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 1 Aug 95 22:46 MESZ Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 22:46:56 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: As the Technical Notes states does PINE 3.91 not support multipart Messages Sorry, Michael Joswig PS: The Statement reads "currently not supported" so there IS hope ;-) On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > Greetings, > [ Many lines deleted] > From: xxxxx > To: "Christopher Curtis" , > [...] > X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2 Lite, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center > Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; > id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0041.807257898"; > number=2 > > > [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] > > 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l > (etcetera to message 6x). > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< > > I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to > UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. > > If the last, will Pine (4.00?) support it? > -- > T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O > E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S > A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / > M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 14:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13866; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:47:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02299; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:43:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from universe.net.Hawaii.Edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02293; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:43:24 -0700 Received: by universe.net.hawaii.edu (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) id LAA06722; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:41:07 -1000 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 11:41:07 -1000 (HST) From: BJ Adkins To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: folder.lock problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I got it...seems that the example in the .pinerc file shows mail/[] but changing it to /mail/[] works ok. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,+ +, , BJ Adkins, UH Networks Voice: (808) 956-5335 , , PACCOM Network Technician ''' Fax: (808) 956-9399 , , University of Hawaii (o o) Pager: 299-4323 , , --ooO--(_)--Ooo-- e-mail: adkins@Hawaii.Edu , +,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,+ On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, Michael Joswig wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hmm, > > do you have a directory /mail and do you have write permissions on it? > > try "touch /mail/tryit" if you get the same error again you either have to create /mail and > check your permission or check your config. > > BTW on UNIX mail is kept in /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, I've never seen /mail? > > Ciao, > Michael J > > > > > On Mon, 31 Jul 1995, BJ Adkins wrote: > > > Whenever I open or close a folder I get the error > > message "Error creating /mail/XXX.lock: no such file or > > directory. Is there a setting I need to check > > somewhere? > > > > -- > > BJ Adkins > > PACCOM Technician, University of Hawaii > > (808) 956-5335 > > adkins@Hawaii.Edu > > > > > > > > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2i > Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 > > iQB1AwUBMB4K+xWxHCTRfN4BAQFSEgL+O2NCafW+CHgGRXmqIvbOfrFC12HDUSVG > MFoKvpGPuxteze9M2+C5hCOMiS7t40xw0Ew0V7DhmsU/Tabyc9r4r9MRQGFlUjcc > 91hvspj/HYgYJxjBEdIzTJqp7N5XBF5x > =NvgT > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ================================================================ > Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE > Tel. (040) 651 56 25 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14484; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02680; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:00:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02674; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:00:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPKI-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .mailcap and Pine Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 14:43:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vlsuc$9sb@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vlsuc$9sb@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Pine interprets the .mailcap file itself and does not use metamail. Pine does honor the MAILCAPS environment variable to specify a new path. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Aug 1995, Rodney Mach wrote: > Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:48:44 GMT > From: Rodney Mach > Newgroups: comp.mail.mime > Subject: .mailcap and Pine > > I have noticed using pine 3.91 that pine uses a .mailcap files > and use this information to spawn external viewers etc instead > My question is is pine interpreting this file, or is it using > metamail to handle the MIME viewing. Also, how can I tell pine > to use a different file, or perhaps specify a different location of > the .mailcap file ? The man page that I have does not mention the word > .mailcap, and very briefly discusses MIME. I looked through the .pinerc > and did not see any options pertaining to this, besides setting up an > image viewer. My .mailcap that I use is : > > > # This is a simple example mailcap file. > # Lines starting with '#' are comments. > > # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff, > # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the > # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'. > audio/*; /usr/demo/SOUND/soundtool %s > > # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.) > # to the viewer 'xv'. > # image/*; /usr/caen/bin/xv %s > > # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'. > video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s > > # This maps all types of video *other than MPEG* to the viewer > # 'genericmovie'. > video/*; xanim %s > > application/postscript; ghostview %s > application/x-dvi; xdvi %s > > application/x-Wingz; %lWingz %f > > > Also, if you are able to answer my questions, could you please include > where you found the information. Please send any responses to: > rmach@engin.umich.edu > > Thanks, > > Rod Mach > rmach@engin.umich.edu > http://www.engin.umich.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:10:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14729; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:10:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02903; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:07:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02893; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:07:47 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA19061; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:07:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 15:07:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 & MIME [?] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > > > [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] > > > > 3yfbWJKvwA9PkQlBfsd/wfcF+b4WopJ9jvou2bf/T/NVsm+Q64ulvu+MT/KfkH2V5Hdxku9l > > (etcetera to message 6x). > > > > >>>---------------------------------------------------------<<< > > > > I was wondering if this is 'normal', an extension added to > > UltiMail, or if Pine simply does not support multipart messages. Your ULTIMAIL correspondant can set the size of message to a LARGE number like 10 Mb, and then it won't get split. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:33:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15670; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:33:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24920; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24914; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnd-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: suresh@cs.Stanford.EDU (Suresh Venkatasubramanian) Subject: Re: How do I move the cursor word by word (not by characters)? Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:10:28 GMT Message-Id: <3vlqmk$puo@Radon.Stanford.EDU> References: <3vkgj0$sqh@cutter.clas.ufl.edu> Status: RO X-Status: Vinod Vijay Tandon (tetsuo@grove.ufl.edu) wrote: : I was just wondering, How can i move my cursor word by word when : composing a mail message? I think the editor that pine uses is pico im : not sure ( It resembles it a whole lot) : Im tired of looking like a fool try to get from part of a sentece : to the next, tapping that button like a madman. : Incedently in case anyone else wants to know.. : to get to the end of the sentence tpye : ctrl-e : to get to the beggining of the sentence type : ctrl-a : much like most editors : thanks : vinny You can use Ctrl-SPACE to move forward a word. I don't know how to go backwards though. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:33:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15697; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:33:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03393; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03387; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnj-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@srvr1.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: .mailcap and Pine Date: 1 Aug 1995 18:51:05 GMT Message-Id: <3vlt2p$9vc@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: have noticed using pine 3.91 that pine uses a .mailcap files and use this information to spawn external viewers etc instead My question is is pine interpreting this file, or is it using metamail to handle the MIME viewing. Also, how can I tell pine to use a different file, or perhaps specify a different location of the .mailcap file ? The man page that I have does not mention the word .mailcap, and very briefly discusses MIME. I looked through the .pinerc and did not see any options pertaining to this, besides setting up an image viewer. My .mailcap that I use is : # This is a simple example mailcap file. # Lines starting with '#' are comments. # This maps all types of audio data (audio/basic, audio/x-aiff, # etc.) to the viewer 'showaudio'. Note that '%s' means 'put the # datafile name here when the viewer is executed'. audio/*; /usr/demo/SOUND/soundtool %s # This maps all types of images (image/gif, image/jpeg, etc.) # to the viewer 'xv'. # image/*; /usr/caen/bin/xv %s # This maps MPEG video data to the viewer 'mpeg_play'. video/mpeg; mpeg_play %s # This maps all types of video *other than MPEG* to the viewer # 'genericmovie'. video/*; xanim %s application/postscript; ghostview %s application/x-dvi; xdvi %s application/x-Wingz; %lWingz %f Also, if you are able to answer my questions, could you please include where you found the information. Please send any responses to: rmach@engin.umich.edu Thanks, Rod Mach rmach@engin.umich.edu http://www.engin.umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 15:35:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15781; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:35:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24928; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24922; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:30:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdPnm-00038EC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 15:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sammie5555@aol.com Date: 1 Aug 1995 22:09:54 GMT Message-Id: Subject: cmsg cancel <950801172238_128061471@aol.com> Control: cancel <950801172238_128061471@aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 17:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19517; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05393; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05387; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdRD9-00038CC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 1 Aug 1995 17:42:30 -0600 Message-Id: <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: this is a followup to the question about how to use an external filter in PINE. it has been suggested that using a pipe symbol could handle incoming messages. however, i have tried this with three different internet service providers that i use, with these results: Provider A: PINE 3.91 -- both in the index to Inbox, and when looking at the message text itself, i get the same result when i type in the pipe: i get Command "|" not defined for this screen ... Provider B: PINE 3.89 -- exactly the same as with provider A Provider C: PINE 3.07 -- again i get a refusal, but the message is Piping message into UNIX command not implemented yet So, i submit, there is more to this story than meets the eye when one just looks at the manpage. does anyone know what might be going on? thanks, gideon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 17:33:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20619; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:33:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27229; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27223; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:20:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdRUg-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lisa frost Subject: DELETING OR CONTROL CANCEL WITH PINE? Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 17:09:06 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: How can I send out a control cancel, or delete on a message posted to a newsgroup with PINE? I have tried though TIN, but it is incompatible when initially posted through PINE. () () () () () () () () The quality of mercy is not stained, It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven Upon the place beneath: It is twice blessed; 'Tis mightiest in the mighties; it becomes The throned monarch better than his crown... It is an attribute to God himself, and earthly power doth then show liketh God's When mercy seasons justice. - WS - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 18:42:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:42:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28341; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:39:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pandora.senecac.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28335; Tue, 1 Aug 95 18:39:30 -0700 Received: by pandora.senecac.on.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19069; Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:37:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 1 Aug 1995 21:37:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Hanit To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: help Kevin Hanit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 1 19:43:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23292; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:43:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07895; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:30:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07889; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:30:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdTVS-00038BC; Tue, 1 Aug 95 19:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfonger@times.net Subject: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 1995 19:26:18 GMT Message-Id: Status: RO X-Status: We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who wants to be able to get his pine mail from our Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or freeware he can use for communications? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 00:36:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28670; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:36:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02203; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02197; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdYCW-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Stop users from changing config Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:42:40 GMT Message-Id: <3vmon0$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to configure Pine so that the Setup option is disabled so users cant go fiddling with all the settings. I know that you have a pine.conf.fixed file in /usr/local/lib to set defaults that cant be overridden, but it would be nice to disable this setup option altogether. Some of our computer users are kind of prone to mucking around. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 01:05:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29510; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:05:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12269; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12263; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdYi7-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 00:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpyne@midland.co.nz (Jonathan Pyne) Subject: Re: PINE and POP3 question Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3vmp33$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> References: <3vcts7$6dg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: Marcus Kraemer (kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: > Hi! > I am using Eudora for Windows 1.4.4 at home and PINE 3.91 on my mainframe > account. When being at home I read my mail on the mainframe account using the > POP3 protocol. How do I configure PINE that mail, read using Eudora is no > longer listed as new? What I do not want is to delete the mail on the server > (i.e. mainframe account). > Thanks for your help, > Marcus I have the same kind of setup here at work. I know there is an option under the special/switches menu called "Leave mail on sever" - this should stop Eudora from deleting the mail as it retrieves it. later Jonathan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 01:57:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00804; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03247; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:53:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03235; Wed, 2 Aug 95 01:52:40 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA14243; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:47:42 +0200 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:47:42 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?= To: Gideon Weisz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how use external filter? In-Reply-To: <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 1 Aug 1995, Gideon Weisz wrote: > this is a followup to the question about how to use an external filter > in PINE. it has been suggested that using a pipe symbol could > handle incoming messages. however, > Provider A: PINE 3.91 -- both in the index to Inbox, and when > looking at the message text itself, i get the same result > when i type in the pipe: i get > Command "|" not defined for this screen ... > > So, i submit, there is more to this story than meets the eye > when one just looks at the manpage. does anyone know what might > be going on? In pine 3.91 (provider A) go to the main menu, then to the Set up screen, then to the Config screen, find the line with the text `enable-unix-pipe-cmd' and set it on (using the key X). If this is not possible, then your provider disabled it and ask him to allow this command for you. In every case, having enabled it you can use the pipe command. Hope this helps, V. S. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 03:23:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02464; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:23:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04109; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04103; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:21:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdau4-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dannyc@leeds.ac.uk (Danny Cox) Subject: connecting to imap daemons not using Pine Message-Id: <1995Aug2.093922.29392@leeds.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:39:22 +0100 (BST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Dear all, this is probably not the right place (sorry) so I'll make it brief. We run cc:Mail here and would like to be able to continue to do so. Can anyone tell me how to persuade (if we can) cc:Mail to access an imap daemon ? Or at least point me in the right direction. Thanks, Danny From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 03:46:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02925; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:46:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14450; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from popb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14444; Wed, 2 Aug 95 03:41:37 -0700 Received: from pplourd.fdd.gsfc.nasa (fdf-int-sser.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.132.16]) by popb.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id GAA25526; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 06:41:31 -0400 Message-Id: <199508021041.GAA25526@popb.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: pplourd@internet.fdd.gsfc.nasa X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 06:41:29 -0400 To: dannyc@leeds.ac.uk (Danny Cox), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Plourd Subject: Re: connecting to imap daemons not using Pine Status: O X-Status: We are in the process of transitioning from cc:mail to POP and imap. Other than using the Link to SMTP from cc:Mail I do not think cc:Mail can use either the POP or Imap protocols directly. What we have done for our transition is set up a SMTP gateway into the POP server so that users can mail cc:Mail messages and POP messages easily. But it still does not let cc:Mail directly use either POP or imap. At 10:39 AM 8/2/95 +0100, Danny Cox wrote: >Dear all, > this is probably not the right place (sorry) so I'll make it brief. We run >cc:Mail here and would like to be able to continue to do so. Can anyone tell >me how to persuade (if we can) cc:Mail to access an imap daemon ? Or at least >point me in the right direction. > >Thanks, >Danny > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Peter Plourd/RMS Technologies, Inc. peter.plourd@gsfc.nasa.gov NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 551 301-286-3316 Work Greenbelt, MD 20771 301-344-8700 FAX 301-454-6037 Beeper From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 04:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04702; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15379; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:41:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15373; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdc7M-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 04:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves) Subject: Getting mail using SMTP Date: 2 Aug 1995 11:25:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'd appreciate them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 06:13:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07048; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06108; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:07:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from popb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06102; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:07:56 -0700 Received: from pplourd.fdd.gsfc.nasa (fdf-int-sser.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.132.16]) by popb.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA28897; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:06:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199508021306.JAA28897@popb.gsfc.nasa.gov> X-Sender: pplourd@internet.fdd.gsfc.nasa X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 02 Aug 1995 09:07:00 -0400 To: steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves), pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Plourd Subject: Re: Getting mail using SMTP Status: O X-Status: We use Pine to connect to a remote server that runs the IMAP daemon. This works by putting the address of the remote server in the inbox field. I can send you a sample config if you want. At 11:25 AM 8/2/95 GMT, Scott Steeves wrote: > I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP >connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my >ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a >message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems >sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. > This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, >but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the >Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. > > If anyone has any ideas or suggestions, I'd appreciate them. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------- Peter Plourd/RMS Technologies, Inc. peter.plourd@gsfc.nasa.gov NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Code 551 301-286-3316 Work Greenbelt, MD 20771 301-344-8700 FAX 301-454-6037 Beeper From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 06:37:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07601; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:37:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06389; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:33:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06383; Wed, 2 Aug 95 06:33:22 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA03557; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:50 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA15784; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:42 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA22736; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:32:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:32:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Pine icon for xterm Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This doesn't really belong here but ... I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 07:54:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10287; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:54:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07570; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:51:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from AZTEC.LIB.UTK.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07564; Wed, 2 Aug 95 07:51:12 -0700 Received: by aztec.lib.utk.edu (5.x/2.8s-UTK) id AA29971; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:50:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:50:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob Patrick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: extended characters in pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: We have someone here who wants to enter special foreign language=20 characters into email messages. I've search Sun's answerbook high and low,= =20 and I can't figure out how someone using a Windows telnet client to=20 access their UNIX account can use their PC keyboard to enter, for=20 example, one of these: =E0 =F1 Sure, I can do it on this here Sun keyboard, but how about a telnet=20 session from Windows? Thanks, -bob ~~~ bobpatrick@utk.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 09:44:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16091; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20741; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20699; Wed, 2 Aug 95 09:35:23 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id MAA28846; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:46:18 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA25410; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:16:49 GMT Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 12:16:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis Subject: gcc debugger? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently-To: IMAP@cac.washington.edu Apparently-To: c-client@cac.washington.edu Apparently-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Where can I get the best updated gcc debugger? Thanks Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 10:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17144; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:10:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21301; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21295; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:03:06 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sdhE0-000sEpC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:04 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 MESZ Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:02:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two icons in the Pine distribution (at least in my one ;-) BTW I'm using a shelltool on my Sun with one of these icons. Isn't there an equivalent on HP? Ciao, Michael Joswig On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > This doesn't really belong here but ... > I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but > can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has > a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is > broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 10:39:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18104; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:39:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11184; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11178; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28172; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:34:13 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2070695894-807384840=:24987" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2070695894-807384840=:24987 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have the following in my .Xdefaults: Mwm*Pine*iconImage: /usr/users/dlm/.xbm/pine.xbm I took this from a previous Pine-Info posting, but I don't remember who it was from... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 09:32:41 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: Pine Info > Subject: Pine icon for xterm > > This doesn't really belong here but ... > I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but > can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has > a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is > broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. 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Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11530; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11524; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28594; Wed, 2 Aug 95 10:46:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan Pyne Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Stop users from changing config In-Reply-To: <3vmon0$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can add "disable-config-cmd" to the feature-list in pine.conf.fixed to turn off the Setup/Config screen for all users.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Aug 1995, Jonathan Pyne wrote: > Date: 2 Aug 1995 02:42:40 GMT > From: Jonathan Pyne > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Stop users from changing config > > Does anyone know how to configure Pine so that the Setup > option is disabled so users cant go fiddling with all the > settings. I know that you have a pine.conf.fixed file in > /usr/local/lib to set defaults that cant be overridden, but > it would be nice to disable this setup option altogether. > Some of our computer users are kind of prone to mucking > around. > Any help would be appreciated. > Thanks > Jonathan > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 11:13:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19409; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:13:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11900; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11894; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:05:58 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA09076; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:44 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA19584; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:37 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA23942; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:05:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: pine.conf.fixed location Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can one change the default location of pine.conf.fixed in the same way as pine.conf with a command line option of -P? I can't seem to make it look anywhere but /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. The -P works fine for changing /usr/local/lib/pine.conf but it will still look for pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib even though pine.conf has been changed with the -P option. Version 3.91 HP-UX 9.01. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 11:42:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20494; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:42:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23699; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:40:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23693; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:39:58 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00660; Wed, 2 Aug 95 11:39:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 11:39:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "John R. Violette" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: pine.conf.fixed location In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, the location of pine.conf.fixed is not changeable from the command line, since that would defeat the purpose of it! ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 2 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 14:05:35 -0400 (EDT) > From: John R. Violette > To: Pine Info > Subject: pine.conf.fixed location > > Can one change the default location of pine.conf.fixed in the same way as > pine.conf with a command line option of -P? I can't seem to make it look > anywhere but /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. The -P works fine for > changing /usr/local/lib/pine.conf but it will still look for > pine.conf.fixed in /usr/local/lib even though pine.conf has been changed > with the -P option. Version 3.91 HP-UX 9.01. > -- > | John R. Violette | Software Development | > | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | > | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 12:29:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22057; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:29:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24574; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:25:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24568; Wed, 2 Aug 95 12:25:08 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id NAA24284 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:54 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA97956 for ; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:54 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id NAA83135; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:52 -0600 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 13:24:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: > We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who > wants to be able to get his pine mail from our > Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or > freeware he can use for communications? I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:12:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26309; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:12:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27058; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:08:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27052; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:08:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdkwh-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Subject: help on simultaneous mailing and posting Message-Id: Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:50:49 GMT I can't seem to post messages that I want posted on some newsgroups at the same time Could anybody tell me the way I should configure the address of the newsgroup so that it does reach the destination and doesn't end up in my mailbox again. Thanks in advance, -- ___________________________________________________________________________ You're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. (Bart Simpson) ___________________________________________________________________________ Ali O. Ors aors@chat.carleton.ca Electrical Engineering aors@engsoc.carleton.ca Carleton Uni. cb260@freenet.carleton.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:31:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26985; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16217; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:28:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16205; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:28:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlKN-00038CC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gweisz@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gideon Weisz) Subject: Re: how use external filter? Date: 2 Aug 1995 15:00:39 -0600 Message-Id: <3vop1n$62e@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3vfvrg$j9c@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vhllf$i18@netnews.upenn.edu> <3vl7ef$h67@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3vme56$i7p@nyx10.cs.du.edu> thanks to a czech angel, whose name i do not have handy at the moment, i've found out that the way to get piping, at least in recent PINE, is either to go to Setup in main menu, and then to config, or, if that doesn't give you the appropriate options, then there is a place (there was in my case) in .pinerc to ask for it. thanks to everyone who tried to assist with this! gideon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27219; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:39:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27668; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:38:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27662; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:38:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlTL-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwg5400@u.washington.edu (Dale Gombert) Subject: Is there a stand-alone MIME decoder available? Date: 2 Aug 1995 17:45:41 GMT Message-Id: <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Many of our users find pine to be a fine product, but many more people in the world don't use it. So we have problems with binary attachments not being decodable by recipients. Can we send them a stand-alone MIME decoder, or how do we tell pine to use uuencoding instead of MIME? -- Dale Gombert, dwg5400@saul.u.washington.edu | No good deed goes unpunished. All expressed opinions are my own. | Is this sig short enough? Finger me to see a few days' space history and upcoming celestial events. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 14:51:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27649; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16579; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16573; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:48:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdlaK-00038HC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 2 Aug 1995 21:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3voqk4$o6@grape.epix.net> References: Lea Andrellan (Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA) wrote: : On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: : > We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who : > wants to be able to get his pine mail from our : > Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or : > freeware he can use for communications? : I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, : so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud : modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect : at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like : MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I : was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, : connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this : arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to : e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... : Lea I also have a 286 with a 2400 modem and it works just fine (but of course ssllloooooowww) using Windows Terminal v3.0 as the communication software. You have to run through the (S)ettings menu first. Hope this helps. E-mail me or followup post if any problems getting it working. ... PS this post is NOT made with that, I only use the antique computer when the kid has this one tied up. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ Hope this gets thru, we're having one hell of a thunderstorm right now. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 15:40:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00107; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:40:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29000; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:38:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28994; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:38:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdmMr-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com (Joe Schirmer) Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm Date: 2 Aug 1995 18:45:00 GMT Message-Id: <3voh3c$li5@sun001.spd.dsccc.com> References: If your HP-UX is using Vue, try editing your X resources: Vuewm*pine*iconImage: filename.bmp That way when you start up pine as follows: xterm -e pine & It should pick up the resource name of pine and use the above resource. In article , John R. Violette wrote: >This doesn't really belong here but ... >I want to specify an icon for Pine running in an Xterm on HP-UX but >can't find a command line option or Xresource to set for this. hpterm has >a command line option but doesn't run pine very well (highlighting is >broken). Also does anybody have a neat Pine icon bitmap? -- Joe Schirmer Internet: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com Software Development Engineer DSC Communications Corporation **** Standard disclaimer (RE: 03-09-03 section II paragraph 3) **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 16:37:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02835; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18955; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:33:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18949; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:33:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdnFJ-00038CC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 16:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bonnie Subject: Adding Symbols Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 19:08:40 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI.. I'm wondering if there is a way to add symbols in the text when composing in Pine. (ie: Copyright a circle with a "c" in it.) Thanks. Bonnie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bonnie Crandall author of PANIC BUSTER, Learn to Conquer Panic Attacks and Agoraphobia. A self-help manual/workbook. Apply your faith to the problem of fear. For information email bcrand@epix.net. The American Express Card is always welcome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 17:18:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04697; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:18:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20072; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:16:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20066; Wed, 2 Aug 95 17:16:20 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id UAA10115; Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:16:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Aug 1995 20:16:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner X-Sender: plardner@rocoto To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ASCII Characters in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Any thoughts on why I am not able to display all of the ASCII charaters=20 in Pico? With alt-160 I can display =A0, but when I want an e with the=20 same accent (alt-130) Pico responds "unknown command". Any assistance=20 will be appreciated. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 19:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06779; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:05:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21404; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21398; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdpcD-00038EC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmcnama@ibm.net Subject: Re: Pine for AIX Date: 3 Aug 1995 00:29:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vp59u$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> References: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> In <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np>, sanjib@chulu.mos.com.np (sanjib ) writes: >Hello, > >Would me most obliged if someone there could please tell me where >I can find Pine for AIX (3.2.x or 4.1.x). > aixpdslib.seas.ucla.edu is an excellent AIX ftp site... in /pub/pine/RISC/.... -Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 19:06:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06823; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:06:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03353; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03347; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdpcB-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmcnama@ibm.net Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: 3 Aug 1995 00:25:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> References: In , jviolett@on.bell.ca ("John R. Violette") writes: >When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes >about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind >of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test >program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port >143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first >start up pine. > >I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running >on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I >could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. I have experienced the same 30+ second delay running PINE on IBM RS/6000 Workstation.. I've built the executable over and over trying to tune and optimizing it... Interesting enough, these workstation are all NFS mounting their home and applications directories for a single superserver, if I perform a POP or IMAP to a standalone system, it only takes 5 seconds... go figure... Workstation are all running AIX v3.2.5 and standalone is running the latest and greatest AIX v4.1 -Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 21:06:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08998; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:06:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05026; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05020; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:04:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdrTk-00038BC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce Wilcox) Subject: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? Date: 3 Aug 1995 01:34:22 GMT Message-Id: <3vp92u$mea@lace.Colorado.EDU> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have written a script which I want to pipe my mail to. Unfortunately when this script wants to read from stdin, Pine won't let it! Is there anyway I can convince Pine to let my script have stdin unfiltered for a little while? Thanks! Bryce -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Auto-signing with Bryce's Auto-PGP v1.0 beta iQCVAwUBMCAnd/WZSllhfG25AQGVrgP/csK+RRHafbOneocUEoo3J/v3iuxEiuOn /y0TCRLA2+dtYm0Y7EFY7dLo8Fas1Iq+MswcGa5GOmhgP4FW7zcrwmZ+Ecr2ex4O zVB6Odrx2m6LaieqjhLRHHzz6yzfwx7ZdVcPpWrAgz9/ySyG0wf92CCUfwpR5A3g Duxl4NwBlcA= =Nt9U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 2 23:41:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11957; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:41:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24812; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:39:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24806; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdtrK-00038RC; Wed, 2 Aug 95 23:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Sorting Mail using Procmail Date: 3 Aug 1995 02:14:33 -0400 Message-Id: <3vppg9$3d1@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: <3vjp02$e04@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) writes: >Nischal Sheth (nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu) wrote: [deleted] >: Even though I created the folder IN.testing in the "Incoming Message Folders", >: any mail with "test" in the subject goes into a folder called IN.testing in >: the Folder-Collection (mail/[]). As a result I cannot step thru all new >: mail using the TAB key. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong? > You need to create your incoming message folders in a different >directory than your folder collection. Try something like: [deleted] Actually, you can put your incoming mail folders wherever you wish. The trick is that you have to specify the inboxes using path names relative to your login directory. Here's a sample section from a .pinerc: # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders="netinstruct" mail/IN.netinstruct, "crust-l" mail/IN.crust-l, "mar-facil-l" mail/IN.mar-facil-l -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) Internet addresses: pentcheff@acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu WWW link: home page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 02:43:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15346; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:43:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09776; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09770; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdwgv-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 06:51:20 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 02:45:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:45:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26915; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:41:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26909; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:40:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdwh9-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 02:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aors@engsoc.carleton.ca (Prince Ali) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 06:53:31 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 05:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19157; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:20:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12064; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:15:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12058; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:15:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sdz7X-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 05:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Thomas A. Bond" Subject: Re: Pine icon for xterm Date: 3 Aug 1995 12:05:48 GMT Message-Id: <3vqe2s$r7t@murphy.servtech.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm looking for a pine icon fox X. Can someone mail me one. Thanks! Tom Bond +=============================================================+ || || || What the world needs today ! || || || || // || || // // ///// // // // // || || // // // // // // /// || || ///// // // // ///// // // || || || || The choice of a smarter generation ! || || || +=============================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 06:26:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20145; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:26:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29564; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:19:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29552; Thu, 3 Aug 95 06:19:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA22550 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:19:30 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA32738 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:19:28 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA05761; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:18:07 EDT Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: 3.92 questions Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My apologies of I missed this in dicussions about 3.92 functionality, but will Pine fix/enhance the operation of ^C/N options for sending and printing? Specifically, when printing (Y) option ^C would cancel and N would prompt for a different destination/printer command. For sending, ^C would offer cancel *message* (with confirm), while N would simply cancel the send. Right now it seems that the duplicate functionality of ^C and N in these (and other?) operations could be eliminated and operation enhanced if changed. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 08:15:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22587; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:15:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01250; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:10:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01244; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:10:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se1rL-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David McChristie <76042.2664@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Compiling PINE on SVR4 Date: 3 Aug 1995 14:21:25 GMT Message-Id: <3vqm15$9i4$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> I am having a problem compiling PINE on a Uniys SVR4 system. IMAP and PICO compile fine. PICO runs great. As soon as PINE starts to comile I get an error from make. The error is as follows: *** Error 1 (bu21) The compiling stops there. If i try to compile some of the files manually no object files are created. If anyone has any ideas I would be grateful. Thanks DaveM. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 08:59:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24405; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:59:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15411; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:45:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15405; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:45:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se2Oq-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronald Wahl Subject: Re: DELETING OR CONTROL CANCEL WITH PINE? Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 14:02:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 1 Aug 1995, lisa frost wrote: > How can I send out a control cancel, or delete > on a message posted to a newsgroup with > PINE? Subject : cmsg cancel Ron. +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ronald Wahl rwa@informatik.tu-chemnitz.de | | >> PGP key available by finger << http://www.tu-chemnitz.de/~row | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | PGP fingerprint: 9D 4A 66 7C A9 9F 6A 5F 90 45 D5 0C DF E5 CB 71 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 09:00:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24470; Thu, 3 Aug 95 09:00:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15632; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:55:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15626; Thu, 3 Aug 95 08:55:21 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA27978 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:17 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (smihelci@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA34548 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:11 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA43854; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:15 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 09:55:15 -0600 (MDT) From: Sonja Mihelcic X-Sender: smihelci@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom it May Concern: Sorry to bother you with this but I asked at the Help Desk and I would like to see if you have an alternative answer to this question. The problem is: whenever I send an e-mail message outside of Canada, the other party doesn't get it. For example, I sent about 8 messages to a friend in the U.K. and he only received one. I have no problems sending messages within Canada though. I know the addresses are correct because I don't get it rejected by the U of A after I send it. Hopefully you can give me a solution to this problem. Thankyou for your time. Sonja Mihelcic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 10:08:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28507; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03822; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03815; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:35 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08271; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:03:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 10:03:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bryce Wilcox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? In-Reply-To: <3vp92u$mea@lace.Colorado.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be available in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1995, Bryce Wilcox wrote: > Date: 3 Aug 1995 01:34:22 GMT > From: Bryce Wilcox > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Can I get input to the process which is on the end of the pipe? > > > I have written a script which I want to pipe my mail to. Unfortunately when > this script wants to read from stdin, Pine won't let it! Is there anyway > I can convince Pine to let my script have stdin unfiltered for a little > while? > > > Thanks! > > > Bryce > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 10:25:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29257; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:25:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17936; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17928; Thu, 3 Aug 95 10:21:33 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id LAA03502 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:25 -0600 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA27263 for ; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:21 -0600 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id LAA79021; Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:21:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, Sonja Mihelcic wrote: > Sorry to bother you with this but I asked at the Help Desk and I > would like to see if you have an alternative answer to this question. > The problem is: whenever I send an e-mail message outside of Canada, the > other party doesn't get it. For example, I sent about 8 messages to a > friend in the U.K. and he only received one. I have no problems sending > messages within Canada though. I know the addresses are correct > because I don't get it > rejected by the U of A after I send it. Hopefully you can give me a > solution to this problem. Thankyou for your time. Sonja, the problem appears to be at the receiving end (lsi-logic.co.uk). Currently, the site looks to be down. I've sent you e-mail under separate cover; please check your INBOX. Marianne ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 12:15:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05056; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:15:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06583; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:11:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06577; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:11:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se5c1-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dennis Lai Subject: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 11:58:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi!! Hi!!! Windows 95 is almost here and is there any plan that someone will port the PC-PINE to Win32 api??? or is it possible to write a gateway to MAPI so Win95's exchange client can retrieve IMAP mail directly into private exchange folder???? (Well, it's certainly Great for Bill) and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? --  ----*<@  * I never believe that a truly pretty *  | flower can be bought from a store... |  * but one that I have "planted" myself. *  | And among them, the most beautiful one, |  * will be the one we "planted" together...... * 7.17.95 ^_^ Dennis Lai, Lovely Dachshund of U of W From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 14:30:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11115; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:30:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09325; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:26:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09319; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:26:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se7lt-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwg5400@u.washington.edu (Dale Gombert) Subject: cmsg cancel <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Control: cancel <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:08:54 GMT Message-Id: <3vr6s6$3ht@nntp5.u.washington.edu> <3vodk5$og6@nntp5.u.washington.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Dale Gombert, dwg5400@saul.u.washington.edu | No good deed goes unpunished. All expressed opinions are my own. | Is this sig short enough? Finger me to see a few days' space history and upcoming celestial events. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 14:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11568; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24444; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:36:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24438; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:36:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se7uf-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: camanyag@sp10edc1.nswses.navy.mil (Jonathan R Camanyag) Subject: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:30:41 GMT Message-Id: <3vr851$fum@suned1a.nswses.navy.mil> Has anybody experienced this same problem... that if you want to suppress fcc, then specify "" at the 'default-fcc' field and Pine (supposedly) won't write an fcc. It seems to me that Pine creates a "" folder and stil fcc's when it shouldn't. Jonathan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: camanyag@nswses.navy.mil UUCP: suned1!camanyag@elroy.JPL.Nasa.Gov sun!suntzu!suned1!camanyag From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:04:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12637; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:04:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10079; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aldebaran.oac.uci.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10073; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:01:23 -0700 Received: by aldebaran.oac.uci.edu id AA08392 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine ); Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:01:22 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:01:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Nguyen To: pine Subject: Text File in Header Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a text file with a long list of email addresses. Is there any way to put this file at the To: section of the header? I tried to cut/paste the addresses from the text file into to To: section of the header, but the addresses overflowed into the Attchmnt: and Subject: sections of the header. I really don't want to retype all these addresses into my address book. /////////////////////////////////// /// John Nguyen /// /// eaeg337@ea.oac.uci.edu /// /// School of Engineering /// /////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:26:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13723; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:26:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10608; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:21:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10602; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:21:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se8cs-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 15:03:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Your server system is almost certainly set up so that the command: rsh imapserver /etc/rimapd (where "imapserver" is the name of your IMAP server) hangs instead of returning an immediate rejection (e.g. "Permission denied"). This is often caused by TCP wrappers and or gateway filters, and is exacerbated by a bug in rsh which causes TCP or IP level rejections to be ignored. To work around this, specify the port number explicitly in the mailbox name: {imapserver:143}inbox This will cancel the rsh attempt. On 3 Aug 1995 mmcnama@ibm.net wrote: > In , jviolett@on.bell.ca ("John R. Violette") writes: > >When I set my inbox to be on a remote IMAP server, it takes > >about 30 seconds to get prompted for my password. This seemed kind > >of long so I tried it with mtest which is the c-client test > >program. It still took 30 seconds. Then I tried a telnet to port > >143 and that is immediate. Is this delay normal when you first > >start up pine. > > > >I have pine 3.91 on HP-UX 9.01 series 715. The imapd is running > >on hpux 9.01 also on a 730. Any help would be appreciated as I > >could not find the answer in the FAQ or anywhere else. > > I have experienced the same 30+ second delay running PINE on > IBM RS/6000 Workstation.. I've built the executable over and over > trying to tune and optimizing it... > > Interesting enough, these workstation are all NFS mounting their > home and applications directories for a single superserver, if I > perform a POP or IMAP to a standalone system, it only takes 5 > seconds... go figure... > > Workstation are all running AIX v3.2.5 and standalone is running > the latest and greatest AIX v4.1 > > -Michael > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 15:53:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14617; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25861; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25855; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:31:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se8li-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: ? on how to add header to msg Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:10:50 GMT Message-Id: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have been experimenting with the anon.penet.fi anonymous mailer for posting to usenet I've been able to sucessfully post to alt.test and misc.test. But.... In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off to penet. How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? adTHANKSvance Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCEtMSY623zJ78t1AQHhMgP+LX5sR5M41qmaBwHAnWYVMF6OuuPfZGq5 o4mEQjkBqMECL/aW1ZR25KkSgzkcWDKC3lwh3FR66h4lSeVjN/5/EYr9P38kJm7G pPKFHOb2kwlqSoL07/tr7qGhJERqQ4GUe/XjU49uuHvv9CTkjP2NzjV9ztnPt1ZR g0twyGW2rfU= =tXd1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:19:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15831; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:19:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26525; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:02:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26519; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:02:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23820; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:01:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 3 Aug 1995 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan R Camanyag Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? In-Reply-To: <3vr851$fum@suned1a.nswses.navy.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem is that if you specify "" in the Setup/Config screen, Pine quotes it and uses it, i.e. if you look in your .pinerc file, you will see default-fcc="""" To actually set an empty value in the Setup/Config screen, press 'a' to Add, then immediately press RETURN. Pine 3.92 will look for the special case of "" and treat it as a NULL entry... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1995, Jonathan R Camanyag wrote: > Date: 3 Aug 1995 19:30:41 GMT > From: Jonathan R Camanyag > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: V3.91: default-fcc="", doesn't work properly? > > Has anybody experienced this same problem... > > that if you want to suppress fcc, then specify "" at the 'default-fcc' > field and Pine (supposedly) won't write an fcc. It seems to me that Pine > creates a "" folder and stil fcc's when it shouldn't. > > Jonathan > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > email: camanyag@nswses.navy.mil > UUCP: suned1!camanyag@elroy.JPL.Nasa.Gov > sun!suntzu!suned1!camanyag > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:45:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16689; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:45:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27553; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27541; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:44 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0se9va-000sFuC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 01:43 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 4 Aug 95 01:41 MESZ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 01:41:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Simeon Nevel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ? on how to add header to msg In-Reply-To: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi Simeon, goto Setup/Config and Add to "customized-hdrs" your Xref, that should work. Ciao, Michael Joswig On 3 Aug 1995, Simeon Nevel wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > I have been experimenting with the anon.penet.fi anonymous mailer for > posting to usenet > > I've been able to sucessfully post to alt.test and misc.test. > > > But.... > > In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I > need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off > to penet. > > How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? > > adTHANKSvance > > Simeon > > - -- > snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* > PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< > x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< > Finger me at for PGP key(s) > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBMCEtMSY623zJ78t1AQHhMgP+LX5sR5M41qmaBwHAnWYVMF6OuuPfZGq5 > o4mEQjkBqMECL/aW1ZR25KkSgzkcWDKC3lwh3FR66h4lSeVjN/5/EYr9P38kJm7G > pPKFHOb2kwlqSoL07/tr7qGhJERqQ4GUe/XjU49uuHvv9CTkjP2NzjV9ztnPt1ZR > g0twyGW2rfU= > =tXd1 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2i Comment: PGP Signed with PineSign 2.0 iQB1AwUBMCFelhWxHCTRfN4BAQGtwgL9Eh9geGY1F5QA9ZOZwkbO7M1pqqAv1MMK E+2JJ195YC6Lw7mZUPwavDcQ1mn9kPy0Tr9dB/g1CLb4AczjhKJ45+dS+brBW4/3 gIsOZZNWPjs4USRdbUMtBCYO2NUsZmqG =PtJH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16691; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12259; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12253; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:41:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se9pR-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kruise@rs6a.wln.com (kruise) Subject: Problem with Pico and Cntl-X Date: 3 Aug 1995 22:58:59 GMT Message-Id: <3vrkbj$gtp@calliope.wln.com> When using pico with MS-Terminal or kermit I find that I can't exit pico. It's keeps telling me unknown command. However, when I use pico from withine Pine to compose a message I have no problem. Any ideas? Randy Kreuziger kruise@wln.com or kreuzrsk@dfw.wa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 16:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17158; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27788; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:51:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27782; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:51:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0se9yO-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin MacNeil Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 3 Aug 1995 23:24:36 GMT Message-Id: <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: >On Mon, 31 Jul 1995 rfonger@times.net wrote: >> We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who >> wants to be able to get his pine mail from our >> Unix box at work. Does anyone know of shareware or >> freeware he can use for communications? Marianne.Aldridge@UAlberta.CA (Lea Andrellan) writes: >I don't know offhand if any of the following are shareware or freeware, >so please don't quote me on that part, but...I'm assuming a 2400 baud >modem with the above setup, since I don't think he'll be able to connect >at any higher a speed. A vt100 communications software package like >MS-Kermit, QuickLink, ProComm, or ComIT should work just fine for him. I >was on the same setup, with a 2400 baud modem, for three years, >connecting to our Unix server here using MSKermit. If he tries this >arrangement or something similar, and is having problems, feel free to >e-mail me off-list and I'll see if I can troubleshoot for you... Well, I'm posting this from a 286 at 14.4 (57.6 line speed), so I have to disagree about not being able to connect above 2400b. For the record, I'm using vt100 and Procomm/dos 2.01, but almost anything will work. I've also used telemate 4.20, which is excellent -- particularly if you want to stay away from expensive commercial products. To answer the question about downloading mail: It can be done, but it's not easy to set up from scratch. First, you have to make sure that uqwk (available at ftp.gte.com) is installed on the host unix machine, and then you need a dos program that can read your downloaded mail and news. I use yarn (available at ftp.coast.net/simtel/msdos/offline) and I strongly recommend it. Yarn works with whatever text editor you happen to choose, and it also has built-in hooks for the pgp encryption program, if that's important. Also, I've found the olmenu script (available via ftp at america.net/pub/users/kgrisham) to be invaluable for setting things up on the unix end. Hope this helps. -- Kevin MacNeil \ Memorial University of Newfoundland kmacneil@morgan.ucs.mun.ca / English & Philosophy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 17:02:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17464; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:02:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12598; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:56:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12591; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:56:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seA46-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: ? on how to add header to msg Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:28:13 GMT Message-Id: <3vrbgt$bej@nntp.crl.com> References: <3vraga$at8@nntp.crl.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Simeon Nevel (snevel@crl.com) wrote: : : In order to post to an existing thread (without breaking the thread) I : need to be able to add an Xref: header to my message before it goes off : to penet. : : How can I add a header (not defined when I use CRTL-r while in the header)? Never mind, I found the answer under Setup, Configuration, Default Headers... I just added Xref: there, and like magic an Xref: header showed up when I hit CTRL-r Thanks anyway... Simeon - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCExViY623zJ78t1AQGBFAP9HNxM9+DL7kkp/WVBqEbsXZCU1VY6DD+1 IKZg36XXTZQGoKYJajI5FQTOCwnHojAhqpBp/d2Tqhay3sw2xlWmXWLQfRw7e/00 Oa4EyaELXxWuB+Pa5GVw2cyyIKo7aoYc1xAX3CCx5EoV+XEri/KnxdAFvFNdUeo0 /l5ghSSNfSQ= =Nl9z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 17:45:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19326; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29027; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29021; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seAoC-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 17:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L9NQC@qcvaxa.acc.qc.edu (EEE) Subject: Extra lines? Date: 3 Aug 1995 20:31:23 GMT Message-Id: <3vrbmr$1cu2@news.cuny.edu> I am using PINE on vms. For some time I've been having difficulty send messages to servers. It seems that PINE adds a blank line to the begining of the message b4 sending it out. The server recquires any command be on the first line. Is any of this true? Is there anything I can do about it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 18:55:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20965; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:55:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14334; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:52:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14328; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:52:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seBsH-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 18:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwhite@materials.com (John L. White) Subject: Re: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... Date: 3 Aug 1995 22:12:43 GMT Message-Id: <3vrhkr$gal@allnews.infi.net> References: In article , Dennis Lai says: >and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? I would greatly appreciate anyone who can solve this problem for me. I am using Windows NT for everything (but mail) and like it very much. But, I have not been able to find any IMAP Daemons that will run on NT. Thus, if I want to use Pine, which I like very much, we have to install a Unix box just for this purpose. Microsoft does not yet support Internet mail on NT (???). But, you can get a DOS Daemon (the name escapes me) that requires a dedicated box to run. I don't want this either. I just want to use PC Pine to access an IMAP Daemon running on our NT Gateway box... If anyone has found a solution to this problem please clue me in... Thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 20:39:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22759; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:39:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01575; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:37:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seDZ8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: pine and "userdb" in sendmail 8.6.12 Date: 3 Aug 1995 23:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3r00da$8f2@ocean.CAM.ORG> One option you have for this problem is to have sendmail take care of this quirk of pine. (I got the following info on comp.mail.sendmail from Bjart Kvarme). In your /etc/sendmail.cf file, add the following line before the rulesets. (I put mine right after the line saying "Kdequote dequote" and before the "Special Macros" section"): # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db Then, add the following ruleset #1. (I put mine right after Ruleset 0): ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). This is how mine is set up and it works great without having to alter pine's code. Also, if you have a "SLIP" or "PPP" connection, another good thing to do in the /etc/sendmail.cf file is to move the line for the nameserver lookup in ruleset 96 to the bottom of the ruleset so that your local mail can be delivered even when you don't have a connection to a nameserver. The key two lines to move to the bottom of the ruleset are: # pass to name server to make hostname canonical R$* < @ $* $~P > $* $: $1 < @ $[ $2 $3 $] > $4 Hope this helps. Jerry On 5 Jun 1995, Phillip Vandry wrote: > Otmar Stahl writes: > > >I recently set up sendmail 8.6.12 on HP-UX. My idea was to use the > >"userdb" feature to replace my unix login name with first_name.last_name > >for outgoing mail using the "mailname" entry in the sendmail user data > >base. This in fact works with mailx and elm, but unfortunately not with > >pine, my favourite mailer. In outgoing mail, the unix login name takes > >preference over the entry in the user data base, although pine is set up > >to use sendmail. Since elm uses the sendmail user data base, it looks like > >a set-up problem with pine. > > It's because PINE generates a From: header while the other MUA's don't. > This is exactly why I think it shouldn't. That's why I used the following > patches to prevent it from doing so. It's not a perfect solution, but > it suited our needs very well. > > Users can still change the from address if ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM is defined, > but it cannot be done through the personal-name field. > [SNIP] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 20:53:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23059; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15677; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:52:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15671; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:52:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seDjB-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 20:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: What is the .addressbook.lu file? Date: 4 Aug 1995 03:11:39 GMT Message-Id: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 22:55:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25559; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:55:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03595; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03589; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seFfU-00038CC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: What is the max usable entry count in a distribution list? Date: 4 Aug 1995 04:58:53 GMT Message-Id: <3vs9ed$9lb@giga.bga.com> I want to create a distribution list with about 500 people on it. Will this work alright? I think I have "decoded" the addressbook format, but is there any kind of import tool that will allow me mass import them? Is there actually any documentation on the addressbook format, especially distribution lists? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 3 23:55:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26354; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:55:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17663; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17657; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seGc8-00038BC; Thu, 3 Aug 95 23:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llb@bga.com (Larry L. Buickel) Subject: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Date: 4 Aug 1995 06:39:34 GMT Message-Id: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Is there any way to add a Reply-To: header for outgoing mail in Pine 3.89? I've tried to add it via the customized headers option in the .pinerc, but there weren't any examples in the file (sure could use some!) and my experiments didn't result in compositions that had the field in it. I checked the FAQ at washington.??? and the other places that I could find on the Web searching thru Yahoo. If there is another good source of info, please let me that too. Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 06:09:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04151; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09280; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:02:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09274; Fri, 4 Aug 95 06:02:10 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0seMQ0-000sFyC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:04 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:01 MESZ Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 15:01:45 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: "Larry L. Buickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is the .addressbook.lu file? In-Reply-To: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The .lu file is a LookUp-file for PINE. It's ment for faster access to your adressbook. It's good to have it! Ciao, Michael Joswig On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: > I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? > Thanks ... > > -- > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | > llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information > Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! > Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 07:29:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05642; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:29:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22566; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:26:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocoto.aug.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22560; Fri, 4 Aug 95 07:26:16 -0700 Received: (from plardner@localhost) by rocoto.aug.com (8.6.11/8.6.6) id KAA10799; Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:26:19 -0400 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 10:26:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Lardner X-Sender: plardner@rocoto To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ASCII Characters in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Any thoughts on why I am not able to display all of the ASCII charaters=20 in Pico? With alt-160 I can display =A0, but when I want an e with the=20 same accent (alt-130) Pico responds "unknown command". Any assistance=20 will be appreciated. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 08:25:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07148; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:25:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11483; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11477; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seOTq-00038HC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: What is the .addressbook.lu file? Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:06:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vs35b$5mv@giga.bga.com> On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: | I found it in my home directory - what is it and can I get rid of it? | Thanks ... It is a file Pine builds automatically for its own internal operations with your address book. Hang on to it. It makes Pine more efficient. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 08:36:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07649; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23414; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23408; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18401; Fri, 4 Aug 95 08:29:40 -0700 Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 08:29:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Larry L. Buickel" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? In-Reply-To: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.89 didn't have any way to add a Reply-To: or other custom headers. The current Pine 3.91 release does... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1995, Larry L. Buickel wrote: > Date: 4 Aug 1995 06:39:34 GMT > From: Larry L. Buickel > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? > > Is there any way to add a Reply-To: header for outgoing mail > in Pine 3.89? I've tried to add it via the customized headers > option in the .pinerc, but there weren't any examples in the > file (sure could use some!) and my experiments didn't result > in compositions that had the field in it. I checked the FAQ > at washington.??? and the other places that I could find on > the Web searching thru Yahoo. If there is another good source > of info, please let me that too. Thanks ... > > -- > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Writing DCE apps in Austin, TX *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | > llb@getinc.com | Help keep the Information > Graphic Examp!e | Super Highway free of litter! > Technologies, Inc. | Don't Mess With CyberTexas ... > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 09:23:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10207; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:23:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24627; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24621; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:18:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sePRa-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 09:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rob Wood Subject: COOKBOOK pine on NT pc's Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 11:18:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does there exist a description of how to implement pine on pc's? I am using it on SUN's and it is working well. I would like to try it on some PC users to see if I could get out of the dual-mail management business. I would like a 1-2-3 step-by-step document that has been used by someone else. I think since I have NT on all my PC's and thus they all have tcp/ip this should be an easy job, but I do not have a lot of time to devote to it. Can anyone help? Rob Wood rob@ontos.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 10:34:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12999; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14840; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14834; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:29:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seQXb-00038HC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kmacneil@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kevin MacNeil) Subject: cmsg cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Control: cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: 4 Aug 1995 16:17:21 GMT Message-Id: <3vth6h$kj7@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> cancel <3vrlrk$os5@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #6 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 10:48:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13728; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:48:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26380; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:44:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26374; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:44:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seQkk-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: snevel@crl.com (Simeon Nevel) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:39:35 GMT Message-Id: <3vtm0n$2ia@nntp.crl.com> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- David J. Campbell Jr. (dc@freenet.ufl.edu) wrote: : can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to : multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in : the To or Cc header? : : How would I do this? When your cursor is in the headers, hit CTRL-R (^r), this will display the "expanded" or "rich" headers... Bcc: should now appear. Just place the addresses in the Bcc: instead of the To: or Cc: area - -- snevel@crl.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* A rabbit is just an angel with big ears *-* PGP Key-id x'C9EFCB75' Print: F52E9C76B162CCB262A39F8A87B040C0 >SIG-ONLY< x'048D45C5' 303AA2AA875C2556AD5A24669C817541 >>SECURE<< Finger me at for PGP key(s) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMCJbTiY623zJ78t1AQE0egP+I3jVakt2FlL+w1+nZ7YPyuLBi7VboEIC oX/hLpveDMtV11m43Za5/7/KzHp+SEMbrwA5ZKpW2UmOx7/NdOWtWvjFhTAjM+61 7/lCcfxoA/EVu2eghALTPSKcvofEUbShhHmGxAUGRMtLaaqFpoD69GEuELzux/5+ kNPLYrFcWYQ= =TdqJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:02:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14338; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:02:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15637; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:59:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15631; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:59:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seR1D-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tonyw8@aol.com (TonyW8) Subject: PC Pine & Passwords Date: 4 Aug 1995 13:42:09 -0400 Message-Id: <3vtm5h$1l0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Since PC-Pine does not support allowing users to change password, I was wondering how most are handling this? I was thinking of having the users telnet to the imap server and have the login program run passwd for them (they will not be doing anything else on the imap server). Other possibilities? Tony Wyland Computing Services Messiah College wyland@mcis.messiah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14756; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26841; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:09:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26835; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:09:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seRAL-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) Subject: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:28:42 GMT Message-Id: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in the To or Cc header? How would I do this? can someone give me a clue? I don't have one.... -- "Full quotebacks" of all our text, and private replies to my Usenet posts are both appreciated! -=- My "standby address" (rarely used) is dc@dkmail.dkeep.com, & fax is 904 376-9929 (24 hr/7 days), in Gainesville, north central Florida. Where are you located? Thank you! David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:26:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15521; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:26:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27139; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:23:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27133; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:23:30 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-4 #2001) id <01HTO99VV5R88ZEUUC@INNOSOFT.COM>; Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 11:23:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Some dreaming questions about PINE's future...... In-Reply-To: <3vrhkr$gal@allnews.infi.net> To: "John L. White" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Thu, 3 Aug 1995, John L. White wrote: > In article , Dennis Lai says: > > >and does it hard to write a IMAP daemon for Window NT??? > > I would greatly appreciate anyone who can solve this problem for me. > I am using Windows NT for everything (but mail) and like it very much. > But, I have not been able to find any IMAP Daemons that will run on NT. IMAP Daemons serve out mail files on the server, what mail files are you think about? Microsoft Mail? cc:Mail? none of these PC mail files are in such a format that 3rd parties are welcome to manipulate (Lotus has been know to change their format when someone found out what the file looks like). Or are you thinking of using some kind of UNIX mail format on NT? That can probably be done, but I don't believe anyone has such a product. > Thus, if I want to use Pine, which I like very much, we have to install > a Unix box just for this purpose. Microsoft does not yet support > Internet mail on NT (???). But, you can get a DOS Daemon (the name > escapes me) that requires a dedicated box to run. I don't want this > either. I just want to use PC Pine to access an IMAP Daemon running on > our NT Gateway box... If anyone has found a solution to this problem > please clue me in... > > Thanks, > +-----POP3's "Leave mail on server" is for the birds ----------------+ | | | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 11:28:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15656; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:28:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16263; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16257; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seRPj-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course1.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PGP - Integrated, Behind the scenes Date: 4 Aug 1995 17:45:11 GMT Message-Id: <3vtmb7$6eb@decaxp.harvard.edu> Any hopes of including PGP support in PINE? mkpgp works ok, but it would be REALLY nice if PGP could be integrated in pine as well as MIME support is for attachments. i.e., every message you type in pine would be automatically signed by your secret key and messages sent to you would automatically be checked for validity, and decrypted on the fly without you even knowing it. Imagine all the new people that would be using pgp if it was as simple as that. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 16:04:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26685; Fri, 4 Aug 95 16:04:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02532; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:59:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02523; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:59:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seVfv-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "David S. Spillers" Subject: Need help on local news Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 16:09:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need help in setting up my box to allow local newsgroups, ie, local forums. No matter how I try to configure the pine.conf file I cannot get the right formula to allow for newsgroups to exist on my server. Any ideas? I have been working with the tech-notes and cannot figure out an appropriate system. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 17:26:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29623; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:26:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24363; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24357; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:25:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seX0D-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmangum@umich.edu (Gene Mangum) Subject: Re: Help: connect to imapd is slow Date: Fri, 04 Aug 1995 19:53 ET Message-Id: <19950804195303.gmangum@mangum3.ann-arbor.mi.us> References: <3vp52e$civ@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> In Article "Mark Crispin " says: > Your server system is almost certainly set up so that the command: > rsh imapserver /etc/rimapd > (where "imapserver" is the name of your IMAP server) hangs instead of > returning an immediate rejection (e.g. "Permission denied"). [Stuff Deleted] > To work around this, specify the port number explicitly in the mailbox > name: > {imapserver:143}inbox > This will cancel the rsh attempt. [Stuff Deleted] I have this on all lines in my .pinerc which reference the server, and I still get the rsh when I list folders (the "L" command). Any way to fix this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 18:27:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00756; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:27:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04675; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04663; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seXxT-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 18:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) Subject: pine doesn't see remote server Date: 4 Aug 1995 23:28:39 GMT Message-Id: <3vuaf7$ug6@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> I am running OpenVMS 6.1, DEC TCP/IP 3.2 (soon to be 3.3), and PMDF 5.0, and am trying to get Pine 3.91 beta 5 (from Israel) to see a remote mail server supporting imap, pop3, and pop. It only sees the local mail box. The problem is, is that I want mail to only be received and sent through the remote server (ideally, disabling VMS mail). One other note, the setup I am shooting for is to be used only by our student population. Faculty and staff will still be able to send/receive mail locally. Any suggestions for the setup? (Also, it seems our Ultrix admin is having a similar problem.) Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu Comp. & Info. Services phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 113 Math Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 19:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02200; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26178; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:40:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26172; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:40:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seZ7s-00038BC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 19:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chris G. Walter" Subject: IMAP..Connection refused Date: 5 Aug 1995 02:21:22 GMT Message-Id: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to read a remote inbox from my Linux machine. I am using PPP to make the connection to the mail server. I get error messages such as: server, 143:connection refused How do I start to debug this problem? How do I verify that IMAP is running on the mail server? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 4 23:16:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05470; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:16:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07505; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:10:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07499; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:10:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0secQ0-00038IC; Fri, 4 Aug 95 23:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) Subject: Common mail groupware software Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 05:30:21 GMT Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. Freeware or commercial software will do. Thank you. --------======= * =======-------- Steven Davidson stevedav@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 00:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06428; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29700; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29694; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sedZx-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP..Connection refused Date: Fri, 4 Aug 1995 23:15:04 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vukj2$lie@nntp5.u.washington.edu> This message means that the server system is not running an IMAP server. "Connection refused" means that you tried to connect to a TCP port (143 is the assigned port for IMAP) that has no server listening. So, the first step to debug the problem is to negotiate with the server system's management to run an IMAP server. On 5 Aug 1995, Chris G. Walter wrote: > I am trying to read a remote inbox from my Linux machine. > I am using PPP to make the connection to the mail server. > I get error messages such as: > > server, 143:connection refused > > How do I start to debug this problem? > How do I verify that IMAP is running on the > mail server? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 00:41:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06697; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:41:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08248; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:30:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08242; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:30:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sedcX-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lpat@unixg.ubc.ca (Lois Patterson) Subject: Using one nickname for a group of people? Date: 5 Aug 1995 00:16:29 -0700 Message-Id: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> Is there some way that I can send email through Pine to a group of people, just by putting one nickname in the To: field? There is something like this on my AdvanceMail at work, I think (called a distribution list) Thanks, Lois lpat@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 01:09:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07433; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:09:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00373; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00367; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:05:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seeDo-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gunnar Anzinger Subject: Patch for 8-bit-characters Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 01:34:15 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! A few month ago someone posted a little patch for PINE 3.91 to this newsgroup. This patch allowed to send 8-bit-characters instead of MIME-quoted-printable. I applied the patch to the source of PINE and recompiled it. The patch worked fine since then. But unfortunately I lost the source of the patch as well as the binary due to a harddisk crash a few weeks ago. If the originator of this patch or someone else who saved it, reads this article, it would be nice if he could mail it to me or post it again to this newsgroup. Bye, Gunnar ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gunnar Anzinger | Telefon: +49-89-5328327 Maistrasse 63 | E-Mail: anzinger@guug.de D-80337 Muenchen | WWW: http://home.pages.de/~anzinger/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 01:27:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07816; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:27:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08822; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:26:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08814; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:26:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seeV1-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 01:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: saken@cyberspace.com (Scott Kenney) Subject: Reading MH folders, How? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 08:15:38 GMT Message-Id: The help files say that prepending #mh/ to a folder name designates it as an MH style folder. I've tried ever combination I can think of and can't get this to work. I don't want to pack my MH folders, I'd like to be able if possible to read them directly from PINE. If someone can tell me how to make this work I'd be deeply thankfull. E-mail me directly and I'll sumarise. -- scott kenney * saken@cyberspace.com * freebsd hacker * toriphile veteran of the psychic wars * charter member ael fanclub * geek nomad of the time streams * orgonaut * agent of fortune * pita * pigtailed * disgruntled postal employee * blood red game player From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 08:27:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14658; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:27:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05748; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05742; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:23:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sekz0-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david Subject: Re: Q: BinHex - whato do with it Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 20:05:59 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 25 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > "BinHex" is a binary-to-text encoding for Apple Macintosh files. Correct, and BinHex 4.0 has been adopted as a MIME type: application/mac-binhex4.0 What folks are asking is, can PINE detect attachments of this type and automatically "de-binhex" 'em (in the same way that base64 encoded attachments are decoded). > So your easiest route is to save the attachment to a file, take it to an > Apple Macintosh and feed it to an unpacking program such as "StuffIt > Expander". No way! I've had success saving attachments to a file then manually running mcvert to de-binhex the file (followed by a dd to strip off the 128-byte Mac header if I wanted to get at the file straight away); having to "take it to an Apple Macintosh" is just nowhere near the "easiest route", especially when someone is sending me a plain text file, or a GIF image that I subsequently want to manipulate under UNIX. "Okay," I hear, "why don't you just make do with mcvert?" Partly because it's cumbersome, partly because it's *easier* to have the decoding of BinHex4.0 files built into PINE (perhaps an option during compile-time) for when you're getting PINE up and running on a new machine (os or platform - quite common 'round here). No need for *encoding*, just *decoding*. Not too much, surely? :-) > There are also deBinHexers available for DOS and UNIX, but you may well > find that the deBinHex'd file is a compressed archive (eg, a StuffIt > archive) that needs further processing. StuffIt Expander will do it all. No way - whilst "archives" are often sent around as binhex files, often Mac mailers encode single files in binhex, which is real annoying when you read your mail on a UNIX box, want to process that single file on that same UNIX box, but need to go through some extra step first. Obviously, if the decoded file is a compressed or self-extracting archive, then taking it to a Mac is necessary - but what about everything else? :-( Just as doco exists covering QP and base64 encoding, doco also exists covering BinHex4.0; surely it wouldn't be too difficult to add it in at some stage (decoding only)? Hmmm .. might poke around with 3.91 later... Cheers.. dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 09:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15267; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13177; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:02:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13171; Sat, 5 Aug 95 09:02:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0selcz-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 08:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brian D. Uhreen" Subject: I want to download my attachments... Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 09:42:23 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2002600785-807609460=:68774" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2002600785-807609460=:68774 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hej, The problem is that I would like to DOWNLOAD my mail from Pine to my local system. (Currently Pine is running on my provider). More importantly I would like to be able to download any attachments in the mail. When I try to issue a sz -u - via either the printer assignments or a unix pipe command I get a screen that has the zmodem autorecive call but with some ??? is it (see below) Is this a problem on my part or is it Pine. sz: 1 file requested: - Sending in Batch Mode **?B00000000000000 ??????????? Any help would be appreciated. Brian Uhreen bduhreen@freenet.calgary.ab.ca |Att planera ar att grundlagga en spanning or Brian Uhreen 907 19th St NE |Att foru at sin plan i livet ar att Calgary Alberta, |vidnakthalla denna spanning Canada | Peter Hoeg --0-2002600785-807609460=:68774-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 10:53:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16926; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07381; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:47:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07375; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:47:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0senGO-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Brian D. Uhreen" Subject: Swedish characters Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 11:24:22 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE hej, =09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me The letters "a" with a dot, "a" with two dots and "o" with two dots looks like this if I type them, first a capital and then a small one they are in the order as above: =C5=E5 =C4=E4 =D6=F6=20 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^< I would like them to show up as the actual letter=20 rather than (for ex) a '*' or a 'A'. =09Brian bduhreen@freenet.calgary.ab.ca |Att planera ar att grundlagga en spannin= g or Brian Uhreen 907 19th St NE |Att foru at sin plan i livet ar att Calgary Alberta, |vidnakthalla denna spanning Canada | Peter Hoeg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 13:00:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19130; Sat, 5 Aug 95 13:00:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15370; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:47:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15364; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:47:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sep98-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Message-Id: References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 18:35:11 GMT In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in >the To or Cc header? The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in the message headers section. -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 18:01:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24100; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:01:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12509; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12503; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:54:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0setxO-00038IC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Subject: [Q] Decoding binary posts using PINE newsreader? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 12:24:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: How does one decode uuencoded multi-part binary files posted on the newsgroups using PINE??? Is there an easier way than to save each file and then manually do the uudecoding?? SG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 5 18:19:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24427; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:19:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18583; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:13:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18577; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:13:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0seuFT-00038QC; Sat, 5 Aug 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Using one nickname for a group of people? Date: Sat, 5 Aug 1995 21:09:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vv5sd$q2d@interchg.ubc.ca> On 5 Aug 1995, Lois Patterson wrote: | Is there some way that I can send email through Pine to a group of | people, just by putting one nickname in the To: field? There is | something like this on my AdvanceMail at work, I think (called a | distribution list) | | Thanks, | | Lois | lpat@unixg.ubc.ca Yup. From the Pine Main Menu, go into the Addressbook function. Type a question mark to get the help screens, which explain about setting up distribution lists. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 05:33:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05383; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:33:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20713; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20707; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:27:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sf4i6-00038IC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ferret@fluffy.seqeb.gov.au (Graeme Wightman) Subject: Re: Swedish characters Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 1995 12:15:16 GMT Brian D. Uhreen wrote... > > >hej, >=09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine >mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my >computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a >with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me > I've been trying out a Windows based MUA thats works just fine with Pine folders and IMAP daemon. It called EMBLA from ICL ProSystems AB in Sweden. I bet it handles Swedish characters, it even comes in two flavours - English and Swedish. You can get a demo version from http://www.pro.icl.se/ -- Graeme Wightman - System Support ____ Email:ferret@alfalfa.seqeb.gov.au SEQEB, GPO Box 1461, (/ .. \) Fax: +61 7 2217556 Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA \__,_/ Phone:+61 7 2234150 / ^/ <<< GOD is REAL ... unless declared INTEGER. >>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 12:36:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11299; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25606; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25600; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:29:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfBIi-00038IC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ats@eliot42.wustl.edu (Alan Shutko) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 6 Aug 1995 19:25:14 GMT Message-Id: <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Christopher W. Curtis (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) wrote: > In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: > >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to > >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in > >the To or Cc header? > The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to > Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in > the message headers section. You should always have at least one address (even invalid) in the To: or Cc: headers. If you don't, sendmail will add Apparently-To: headers for some number of the recipients. You don't see these headers in pine, but you do in other mailer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 13:12:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12054; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:12:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29220; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:06:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29214; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:06:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfBny-00038gC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 12:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nofear@eden.com (NOFEAR) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Date: 6 Aug 1995 19:37:59 GMT Message-Id: <4035mo$gdh@boris.eden.com> References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> I am not sure but if you find out please post it to the newsgroup. I have been looking at the pine manual but did not find anything out about it. I know that you can make a list in the address book. It is kinda of a mailing list but you need to make the list yourself. David J. Campbell Jr. (dc@freenet.ufl.edu) wrote: : can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to : multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in : the To or Cc header? : How would I do this? : can someone give me a clue? I don't have one.... : -- : "Full quotebacks" of all our text, and private replies to my Usenet posts : are both appreciated! -=- My "standby address" (rarely used) is : dc@dkmail.dkeep.com, & fax is 904 376-9929 (24 hr/7 days), in Gainesville, : north central Florida. Where are you located? Thank you! David -- *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! Don't let your fears stand in the way of your dreams! A champion is someone who gets up even when they can't. - NO FEAR! *!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*!*! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 6 13:35:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12393; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:35:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26361; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26355; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:30:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfCK9-00038OC; Sun, 6 Aug 95 13:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: imap env. , monitor remote mbox Date: 6 Aug 1995 13:56:01 -0600 Message-Id: <4036oh$si8@lacerta.unm.edu> hello: is there any flavor of xbiff out there that can be useful in environments where imap is used (to access remote mailboxes ...) ? Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 02:27:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25214; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:27:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06138; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06132; Mon, 7 Aug 95 02:21:09 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:19:59 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA13330; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:20:27 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:20:26 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Need a newsreader easier than PINE!!!???!! In-Reply-To: <3vb6sa$rcd@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just in case anyone is interested in doing this, you may like to take a look at my "hyperactive" utility which creates indexed Web pages listing newsgroups. It's fairly configurable, along with some sneaky features that allow you, for example, to sort local newsgroups to the top of the list and, if your server keeps such a file, a list of recently created newsgroups. You can see our newsgroup index at: http://www.york.ac.uk/ServerSupport/UsenetNews/ and find the software and description at: http://www.york.ac.uk/ftparchive/WWW/utils/hyperactive/ Hyperactive is written using Perl 4. I have had reports it doesn't work properly under Perl 5, but have yet to try it out to see. (I'll shut up now, as this seems to have wandered off Pine altogether -- Sorry!) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'd say that either Pine or Lynx (with the `news:' URL) are the > easiest. How about if you create a Web page with a list of > the newsgroups linked using the `news:' URL and then give people > a choice of using either Pine of Lynx to participate in the > newsgroups? > > Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 03:40:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26697; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08323; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:32:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08317; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:32:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfPSg-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djohnson@cix.compulink.co.uk ("David Johnson") Subject: Re: Getting mail using SMTP Message-Id: References: <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 10:29:37 GMT In article <3vnnbe$hcb@titan.saturn.net> steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves) writes: > I have Linux set up on my machine and I connect to my ISP using a SLIP >connection. I have attempted to configure pine to get my mail from my >ISP using SMTP. However, whenever I attempt to get my mail, I get a >message stating that the connection was refused. I have no problems >sending mail out using SMTP, but I'm not allowed to check my mailbox. If your ISP is providing mail by means of SMTP you don't have a mailbox, on the server machine, like you would with POP3 or IMAP. What is required is that when you connect to the ISP you have a SMTP daemon running on you machine when you connect. The ISP should then when it detects that you have connected to the system send you the mail that is waiting for you. These mail messages will be deposited in mailboxes on you local machine, depending on how the SMTP daemon has been configured. You can then read the mail using pine looking at the local mailboxes. > This initially appears to be a problem with the username and password, >but I've tried a few things around this. My username and password on the >Linux machine are the same as on my provider, but that doesn't help. Nope its nothing to do with that, pine with be attempting to connect to the IMAPD (or POP3) port and I suspect that there is not a server running on either port so it is giving connection refused as a result. Hope this helps Dave -- ======================================================================== | djohnson@cix.compulink.co.uk | I think I gone insane, | | David Johnson | I can't remember my name | ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 06:26:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00251; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09081; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:17:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09075; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfS1w-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smitha@worf.netins.net (Warren/Andy Smith) Subject: forwarding?!help Date: 7 Aug 1995 13:13:14 GMT Message-Id: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a differant address... - Andy SMith From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 07:41:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01620; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:41:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10964; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:32:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10958; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:32:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfT9u-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 07:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W. Weia (zeus)" Subject: Re: Pine for AIX Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 15:40:35 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3vb28r$6f2@manaslu.mos.com.np> ftp://forte.mathematik.uni-bremen.de/pub/unix/mailing/pine-3.91.tar.gz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:16:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05470; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:16:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12464; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:01:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12458; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:01:43 -0700 Received: (from yves@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA32096; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:24:23 GMT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 18:24:23 +0000 From: Yves Maniette Subject: screen editor bug? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Alex del Giorgio , Pau Gorostiza Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, I am having sometimes some difficulties with pine, due to, apparently screen editor problems. What is most surprising is that the problem is rather erratic... I am trying to explain the symptoms: - on MAIN screen, if one tries to move with up-down arrow, the screen text goes up one line each time. Hence I end up not knowing where I am. the problem can be cured a bit, by typing L (for example) and then M again, to get back a nearly neat main screen. But anyway, when arriving in the main, it lacks the last line containing the short commands (Send, Justify...) - In the same way, the messages cannot be read clearly, because they are printed on the screen up to the end, and then I can't get back to the top (I get the message "already at start of message") I would like to know if you already experienced this kind of bug, and what can be done in order to fix it. What I less understand is that the bug is erratic, and that it happens on several computers (I guess all) in the center. (we have a Unix station, to which are connected the PCs. It seems that the problem only arises when working from the PCs). Sincerely, ------------- Yves MANIETTE tel (34 3) 402 1695 fax (34 3) 402 1398 Unitat ESCA-TEM Serveis Cientifico-Tecnics Universitat de Barcelona Carrer Lluis Sole i Sabaris 08028 BARCELONA Espana From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:31:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06080; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:31:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12580; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:22:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12574; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:22:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfUsp-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course3.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: VT100/ANSi Colors - Extended ASCII Date: 7 Aug 1995 15:36:42 GMT Message-Id: <405bua$2gj@decaxp.harvard.edu> How about implementing some color schemes in an uncoming release of PINE? Also, what about Extended ASCII characters? I know they display fine through dial-ins (modem), but I have yet to find a telnet program that displays 8bit characters... -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 09:47:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06965; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:47:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13554; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13548; Mon, 7 Aug 95 09:42:38 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA14319; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:36:52 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA04841; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:36:50 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA11671; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:35:29 EDT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 12:35:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Yves Maniette Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio , Pau Gorostiza Subject: Re: screen editor bug? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Aug 1995, Yves Maniette wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am having sometimes some difficulties with pine, due to, apparently > screen editor problems. What is most surprising is that the problem is > rather erratic... > > > I would like to know if you already experienced this kind of bug, and > what can be done in order to fix it. What I less understand is that the > bug is erratic, and that it happens on several computers (I guess all) in > the center. > > (we have a Unix station, to which are connected the PCs. It seems that > the problem only arises when working from the PCs). > Yves, I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by disabling the status and menu lines. Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display jumped back and forth as I scrolled. What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving you at least 24 lines for your remote session? Good luck, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 12:12:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12939; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:12:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16693; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:08:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16685; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:08:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfXTT-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dickens@jeff.ibg.ljo.dec.com (Jeff Dickens) Subject: another PINE & Eudora question Date: 7 Aug 1995 18:08:41 GMT Message-Id: <405kr9$2vh@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> Hi. Eudora says that they are "compatible with UNIX mail and .mailrc files". But I find that in a Eudora .mbx file, messages are separated by "", where in Unix (PINE) files messages are separated by "". Consequently, PINE can't read mail files created by Eudora. I found that if I just strip out the extra s it works fine. Is there any way to change PINE's idea of what the inter-message seperator should be ? Thanks in advance, -Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 15:36:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23056; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:36:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21784; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:33:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21777; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:33:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfagx-00038IC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xxs@epsilon.com (Xiaobo Shao) Subject: block or bounce Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 21:13:57 GMT How to set pine to block /bouce back mail from a specific address? Thanks! xiaobo -- Xiaobo Shao what i said is what I said From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 16:37:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26561; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:37:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24958; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:33:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24952; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:33:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfbev-00038LC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 16:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: forwarding?!help Date: 7 Aug 1995 17:10:05 -0600 Message-Id: <4066gd$n8b@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> Warren/Andy Smith (smitha@worf.netins.net) wrote: : How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a : differant address... : - Andy SMith In Unix, create a file with a name of .forward with the address you want it to go to as the only line, in VAX its set forward """
""" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 17:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29003; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25269; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:15:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25263; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:15:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfcHw-00038BC; Mon, 7 Aug 95 17:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stprabhu@newstand.syr.edu () Subject: How can I parse a mail ? Date: 7 Aug 1995 23:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <4068rn$cfs@newstand.syr.edu> Hi, I am trying to write an email server, and need to parse the header info. I tried looking into the RFC822 specs, but I figured that there must be some code lying around considering the number of server programs. If any of you could please drect me to some source for the code, or email me a rudimentary parser I would greatly appreciate yor help. Thanks Shashi Please email the replies to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 7 21:28:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04847; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:28:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00857; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00851; Mon, 7 Aug 95 21:26:31 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id WAA17567 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:25 -0600 Received: (from maldridg@localhost) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id WAA62620; Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:25 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Aug 1995 22:26:24 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? In-Reply-To: <3voqk4$o6@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Aug 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > I also have a 286 with a 2400 modem and it works just fine (but of course > ssllloooooowww) using Windows Terminal v3.0 as the communication software. > You have to run through the (S)ettings menu first. Hope this helps. > E-mail me or followup post if any problems getting it working. ... PS > this post is NOT made with that, I only use the antique computer when the > kid has this one tied up. G'Day. Just a note: I won't disagree with the idea of using Windows Terminal ( or any other comm software designed to run under Windows); the reason I didn't suggest any Windows-driven software, though, is because through working at the Helpdesk here I've seen many many clients experience problems of various shapes and sizes when running standard vt100 comm software under Windows (including Windows Terminal), and in 90% of cases, shutting down Windows and running the comm software from the DOS prompt eliminated the problem. This is not to say that I haven't also seen some clients running vt100 comm software successfully in a Windows environment, just that the number who had problems is significantly high. Windows 3.1 does not seem to handle communications well in a fairly wide variety of circumstances. Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 06:56:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17035; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08397; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:50:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08391; Tue, 8 Aug 95 06:50:39 -0700 Received: by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16418; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:48:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:48:49 -0400 (EDT) From: BRENT WAYNE BEASLEY To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: readonly Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 255 I was reading a file and accidently hit ALT-C. The next thing I knew my INBOX had (READONLY) beside it, and when I quit and restarted pine, it said something about a lock. Now I can't delete any files in my inbox. What happened and how do I fix it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 08:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19302; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05872; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:11:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05866; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:11:44 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA29380; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:37 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA29967; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:33 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19251; Tue, 8 Aug 95 11:11:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Function keys in xterm don't work Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out there have such a file. Thanks. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 08:59:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20946; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10764; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:55:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10758; Tue, 8 Aug 95 08:55:00 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA01549 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:54 -0600 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA45370 for ; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA40133; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 09:54:52 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: forwarding?!help In-Reply-To: <4053ha$7ju@insosf1.netins.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Aug 1995, Warren/Andy Smith wrote: > How can you get pine to forward incoming mail from one server to a > differant address... If you're on a Unix machine, this needs to be set at your home directory, not from Pine... Create a file in your home directory called .forward . Contents should consist of a single line, that line being the complete e-mail address of where you want to forward your mail... Save the file; your incoming mail should then be forwarded to the new location... NOTE: If your system uses AFS, the following commands need to be issued at the system prompt: cd ~yourid /usr/afsws/bin/fs sa . system:anyuser rl Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 10:08:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24107; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:08:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12354; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12344; Tue, 8 Aug 95 10:04:41 -0700 Received: (from yves@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.6.9/8.6.9) id TAA00213; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:26:59 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:26:59 +0000 From: Yves Maniette Subject: Re: screen editor bug? To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Yves, > I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by > disabling the status and menu lines. > > Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two > lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display > jumped back and forth as I scrolled. my screen does have 25 lines, one being used by the system. therfore it does remain 24 lines for pine. right now it works perfectly, but this morning it did not. I am getting crazy... > > What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving > you at least 24 lines for your remote session? I am calling a program called ethdrv to load the ethernet driver then I can type telnet myhost. Yes I do have 24 lines, so I feel the bug is hidden somewhere else. Thank you for your help anyway Yves MANIETTE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00714; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:15:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15670; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15664; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:13:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfu3k-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ujmf@sunyit.edu (Jon M. Feduccia) Subject: Compiling PINE Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:42 GMT I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation problems with solaris??? P.S. pico, imapd, and mtest all compiled fine. Thankyou, ujmf@sunyit.edu feducciaj@rl.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:17:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00772; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:17:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15702; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.hamburg.netsurf.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15696; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:14:09 -0700 Received: from mail.isys.net[193.96.224.33] by mail.hamburg.netsurf.de with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.1); id m0sfu8J-000sCFC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:16 GMT+0200 Received: from paddington by mail.isys.net with smtp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.22); id ; Tue, 8 Aug 95 21:13 MESZ Received: from paddington (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by paddington (8.7.Beta.11/8.7.Beta.11) with SMTP id VAA00903; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:13:28 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 21:13:21 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Joswig X-Sender: michaelj@paddington Reply-To: michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE To: Yves Maniette Cc: Don Sugarman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Alex del Giorgio Subject: Re: screen editor bug? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yves, sorry, I didn't recall your first message, but do you use your telnet in a window? If so: Do you have a slider at one side for scrolling? I've had such a combination on a Sun and the slider interacted with PINE. In some sessions I had this problem. Now I'm using a window without a slider and all is well Ciao, Michael Joswig On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Yves Maniette wrote: > > > > Yves, > > I had a similar problem with my communications software. I fixed this by > > disabling the status and menu lines. > > > > Pine uses 24 lines. Because my communications software was using two > > lines for status and menu, I had only 23 lines for Pine and the display > > jumped back and forth as I scrolled. > > my screen does have 25 lines, one being used by the system. therfore it > does remain 24 lines for pine. right now it works perfectly, but this > morning it did not. I am getting crazy... > > > > > What software are you using to connect to the Unix server? Is it giving > > you at least 24 lines for your remote session? > > I am calling a program called ethdrv to load the ethernet driver then I > can type telnet myhost. Yes I do have 24 lines, so I feel the bug is > hidden somewhere else. > > Thank you for your help anyway > > Yves MANIETTE > > > ================================================================ Michael J. Joswig michael.joswig@Hamburg.NetSurf.DE Tel. (040) 651 56 25 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01523; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:35:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11044; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11038; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:31:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuMN-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@thorin.hw.stratus.com (Richard Meitzler) Subject: PC-Pine - Packet Drivers communication problems Date: 8 Aug 1995 19:09:57 GMT Message-Id: <408cq5$atl@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I am having some problems with getting PC-Pine to work correctly with the packet drivers. I am trying to use the 'slipper' slip driver. I got the connection working correctly because I can use the NCSA telnet software and talk to whoever I want to, but I can not get PC-Pine to work correctly with it. I verified that the imap server is working correctly because I tried running pine from Linux (on the same system) and it worked just fine. Heres what I did and what happened. I set my CONFIGTEL environment variable to point to my config.tel file that came with the NCSA telnet stuff. I ran PC-Pine. It comes up into the main menu and asks for a INBOX to open. I type in '{my_remote_system}/usr/spool/mail/MAILBOX'. When I hit enter on this (and answer the question if I want it in the pinerc file), the transmit light on the modem comes on almost continuous, and a few blinks come back (via the recieve light), and it sits this way forever. It never succeds in opening the mailbox, and I have to reboot to try again. (can not ^C or ^BREAK out of it). Does anyone have any suggestions on where to go from here? Am I doing something wrong?? Any responses would be greatly appreciated, either via email or via this news group. Thanks, Rick -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Richard Meitzler, Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA rgm@hw.stratus.com -or- Richard_Meitzler@vos.stratus.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:51:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02026; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16376; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:46:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16370; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:46:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuZv-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: badwine@netcom.com (Ken Malvino) Subject: uploading to pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:05:27 GMT I have a question that I can not figure out. I have a shell account with netcom. I am trying to upload a file from my computer to my directory at netcom. I don't know how to do this funtion. Please help. Email directly to badwine@netcom.com TIA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02138; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:55:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11406; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11400; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfuem-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE (Marcus Kraemer) Subject: Re: PINE and POP3 question Date: 8 Aug 1995 16:15:41 GMT Message-Id: <4082jd$ku2@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <3vcts7$6dg@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <3vmp33$n6s@news.midland.co.nz> Jonathan Pyne (jpyne@midland.co.nz) wrote: : Marcus Kraemer (kraemer@bambi.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: : > Hi! : > I am using Eudora for Windows 1.4.4 at home and PINE 3.91 on my mainframe : > account. When being at home I read my mail on the mainframe account using the : > POP3 protocol. How do I configure PINE that mail, read using Eudora is no : > longer listed as new? What I do not want is to delete the mail on the server : > (i.e. mainframe account). : > Thanks for your help, : > Marcus : I have the same kind of setup here at work. I know there is an option under : the special/switches menu called "Leave mail on sever" - this should stop : Eudora from deleting the mail as it retrieves it. : later : Jonathan : Thanks for the answer, but this is not what I want. I have set the switch to leave read mail on the server. But the mail is not marked as already read. It is still listed as new -> next time I use Eudora it downloads the "new" mails again... Marcus =========================================================================== Marcus Kraemer kraemer@uni-mainz.de Am blauen Garten 21 55246 Mainz-Kostheim Germany PGP 2.6 public key: finger kraemer@vzdmzy.zdv.uni-mainz.de phone: +49-6134-23537 http://www.uni-mainz.de/~kraemer/homepage.html =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 12:59:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02379; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:59:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16612; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16606; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:58:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfukH-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org (Vasilios L. Pilarinos) Subject: Re: DOS 4.xx communications? Date: 8 Aug 1995 16:29:42 GMT Message-Id: <4083dm$t4h@news2.noc.netcom.net> References: ...( rfonger@times.net ) wrote: [rf] We have a staffer with an old 286 640k at home who wants to be able [rf] to get his pine mail from our Unix box at work. Does anyone know of [rf] shareware or freeware he can use for communications? You can find many different communication software that _should_ run on that kind of setup. Off the top of my head, you might try looking for it at any simtel mirrored site. ftp:oak.oakland.edu/pub/simtel/msdos/telix/tlx322-*.zip /qmodem/qm46td-*.zip I have gotten both these software to work with my 286/10 at home with 1 meg of RAM. Hope this helps. Let us know how it worked out. -- Vasilios L. Pilarinos -- Network Administrator, Girl Scouts of the USA. E-mail: vpilarin@unix.gsusa.org, vpilarin@gsusa.org Voice: 1-212-852-6581 ---( All opinions are my own. )----( http://www.gsusa.org/~vpilarin/ )--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 16:55:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12523; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:55:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16246; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:50:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16240; Tue, 8 Aug 95 16:50:55 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:48:43 +0800 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 07:48:42 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "Jon M. Feduccia" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compiling PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Jon M. Feduccia wrote: > I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this > program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris > 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. > The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and > "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use > the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation > problems with solaris??? > > P.S. pico, imapd, and mtest all compiled fine. I've compiled on Solaris 2.4. You should check/do the following: 1. Ensure that /usr/opt/SUNWspro/bin appears in your path before /usr/ucb. 2. Ensure that the LD_LIBRARY_PATH does *not* included /usr/ucb/lib. 3. In the makefile.sol in pine add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS definition. 4. Then do the build. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 17:46:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14425; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:46:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17134; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsu.Colorado.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17128; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:42:37 -0700 Received: (from tvelasco@localhost) by ucsu.colorado.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12/CNS-3.6) id SAA17126; Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:34 -0600 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 18:42:34 -0600 (MDT) From: VELASCO ARNEZ TITO To: Pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 17:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14759; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23597; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23591; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfzKz-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 17:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Compiling PINE Date: 8 Aug 1995 18:09:54 -0600 Message-Id: <408uci$jq0@nyx.cs.du.edu> References: Jon M. Feduccia (ujmf@sunyit.edu) wrote: : I have downloaded the most recent version of PINE, and cannot get this : program to compile. I am trying to compile on a Sparc 10 running Solaris : 2.4. I have tried using the "makefile.sol" and "makefile.sv4" with no luck. : The errors I keep seeing are identifier redeclared in "stdlib.h" and : "unistd.h". I also noticed that in the makefile.sol that it doesn't use : the c compiler that came with solaris. Are there any known compilation : problems with solaris??? Have you tried to use the GCC compiler?? Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 18:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15872; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17739; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17733; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:28:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sfzt4-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Vayser Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Date: 9 Aug 1995 00:53:51 GMT Message-Id: <4090uv$b84@frodo.smartlink.net> References: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) wrote: > >Pine 3.89 didn't have any way to add a Reply-To: or other custom >headers. >The current Pine 3.91 release does... I figured out how to do it - by adding the value to customized headers, but is there any way to make the value of the reply-to header default, so I don't have to add my address to that field every time. TIA Mike Vayser -- Migre.v Shine on...--------------------... migre.v@vayser.com http://smartdocs.com/~migre.v migre.v@smartlink.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 18:50:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16245; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:50:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24466; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:47:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:47:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg0D5-00038EC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wolfe@teleport.com ("Alpine" and BarbaraW) Subject: error in pine? Date: 8 Aug 1995 18:37:55 -0700 Message-Id: <4093hj$bc6@linda.teleport.com> I was mailing out mail to a bunch of folks in one letter and got a message that said; sh: bus error ANyone know what that means and if the mail got thru, at my end here it gave every indication it was successful, but... -- Dog welfare page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/dog.welfare.html St Bernard web page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/saints/stbernard.html +=)=============- Computer services and Web page construction -===========(=+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17013; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:23:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25010; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:20:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25004; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:19:59 -0700 Received: from galadriel (localhost.dfw.wa.gov) by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11164; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:20:20 PDT Message-Id: <9508090220.AA11164@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 95 19:20:20 -0700 From: Kathleen House X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.1N (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.3 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments in Unix Pine X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/95.01/msg00698.html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can DOS documents be attached directly to Pine email's in Unix? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:25:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17066; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:25:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25052; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25046; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:23:58 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13094; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:26 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:24:26 PDT From: housekmh@dfw.wa.gov (Kathleen House) Message-Id: <9508090224.AA13094@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments to Unix Pine email messages Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) before they can be sent? Any help is greatly appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:28:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17127; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:28:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25074; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25068; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:10 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14122; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:38 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:26:38 PDT From: housekmh@dfw.wa.gov (Kathleen House) Message-Id: <9508090226.AA14122@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments to Pine Hi, I just sent the message about attaching DOS documents to email messages, but forgot to include my name and address. Here it is: Kathleen House housekmh@dfw.wa.gov Thanks again! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 19:47:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17648; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:47:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25437; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:45:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.dfw.wa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25431; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:45:41 -0700 Received: by galadriel.dfw.wa.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23324; Tue, 8 Aug 95 19:46:08 PDT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 19:46:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathleen House X-Sender: housekmh@galadriel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) before they can be sent? Any help is greatly appreciated. Kathleen House housekmh@dfw.wa.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 20:36:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18517; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:36:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19246; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:32:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19240; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:32:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg1q5-00038BC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 20:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Questions about .forward Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 22:19:00 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi 1. I have setup .forward with receiving address, but mail is not forwarded. 2. Playing around with procmail and .forward to sort messages (as described in FAQs) also does not work. My mail seems to disappear. Any obvious (or not so obvious) suggestions? I'm on Alpha with OSF/1 using Pine as mail program. I believe PMDF (?) is earlier part of mail delivery. Thanks Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 8 22:43:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21232; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28029; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:38:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28023; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:38:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg3pe-00038EC; Tue, 8 Aug 95 22:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jernegan@case.cyberspace.com (Jeff L Jernegan) Subject: mailing lists Date: 8 Aug 1995 22:10:15 -0700 Message-Id: <409fvn$j6t@case.cyberspace.com> I've been lurking watching for an answer to an oft-asked question: How do you import a list of internet addresses into a Pine Addressbook "distribution list" without retyping them all? Come on, _SOMEONE_ must have the answer...! Thanks! ------------- Jeff Jernegan ------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 00:32:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23285; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:32:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21745; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:08:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21739; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:08:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg5Ev-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ferry Winarta Subject: IMAPD on SCO3.2v4.2 Date: 8 Aug 1995 23:10:34 GMT Message-Id: <408qta$2ar@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just tried to use PC pine to connect to my mail server (which use PINE 3.91). It failed to login, with message BAD Login. When I tried to use root as username, it works fine. My mail server using sendmail (instead of mmdf) and C2 security features from SCO. I wonder whether these cause the problem. I try to use either root and NOLUID in /etc/inetd.conf for imapd, and try to use different combinations of owner and group for imapd. Is there anyone could give me any suggestions or know where I could find any FAQ for imapd. Thanks and Regards Ferry Winarta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:16:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24752; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:16:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00262; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00256; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:12:04 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:11:14 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01346; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:12:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:12:00 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Alpine and BarbaraW Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: error in pine? In-Reply-To: <4093hj$bc6@linda.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It means your computer is using a broken version of the "sendmail" system program, and should get the latest version. The background... A(nother) security hole was discovered in the "sendmail" mail delivery system and a fixed version was released. Unfortunately it broke another area, causing sendmail (not Pine) to core dump when sending to more than a number of people (I think it was 20-ish). The problem is fixed in the 8.6.12 release of sendmail. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1995, Alpine and BarbaraW wrote: > I was mailing out mail to a bunch of folks in one letter and got a > message that said; > > sh: bus error > > ANyone know what that means and if the mail got thru, at my end here it > gave every indication it was successful, but... > -- > Dog welfare page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/dog.welfare.html > St Bernard web page; http://www.teleport.com/~wolfe/saints/stbernard.html > +=)=============- Computer services and Web page construction -===========(=+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:23:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24910; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22506; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:18:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22500; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:18:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:17:34 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA01717; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:18:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:18:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Kathleen House Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: DOS attachments to Unix Pine email messages In-Reply-To: <9508090224.AA13094@galadriel.dfw.wa.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pause and think carefully for a moment ... [I'm assuming you're using the UNIX version of Pine by running a terminal emulator on your micro to connect to and login to a UNIX computer..] You are logged in to UNIX, using UNIX commands, using files stored on the UNIX computer's disk. Forgetting about Pine for a moment, can you see any of the files on your micro's own hard disk directly from UNIX? Or do you have to transfer (Kermit/whatever) them to UNIX first? If you can't "see" your micro's own files from UNIX (and, unless you're running some really funny setup you won't be able to) then Pine (which is just another UNIX program) won't be able to see them either. So in order to attach a file to a message sent using *UNIX* Pine does indeed require the file to be accessible (usually stored on) the UNIX computer. If you use the PC a lot you may like to think about getting hold over the PC/Windows version of Pine to use instead? (Saves logging in to UNIX and *can* then send PC files (as it's running on the PC). Can also send UNIX files if (and only if) the UNIX filestore is mounted (perhaps over PC-NFS or equivalent) on the PC.) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, Kathleen House wrote: > Can DOS ASCII documents be attached directly to email messages sent via > Pine from Unix? Or must all attachments be on Unix (via ftp, Kermit, etc) > before they can be sent? > Any help is greatly appreciated. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:31:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25435; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:31:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00496; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:28:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00490; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:28:24 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:27:32 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA02258; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:28:18 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 09:28:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Jeff L Jernegan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing lists In-Reply-To: <409fvn$j6t@case.cyberspace.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I did it by using Pine to create a minimal addressbook containing a couple of single entries, and a couple of distribution list entries. Then I looked at the resulting ".addressbook" file in my UNIX home directory and guessed the format of the file. (It is *very* straightforward!) Then, because I only had relatively few addresses in my previous mail utility's list, took a copy of the file and edited it into the right form. For more I'd have probably knocked up a little script to do it. You don't say what mailer your previous address book is for, but if it's Elm then there is already a conversion script available called something like "elm2pine". (Perhaps someone can say where to find it? I did a quick check of ftp.cac.washington.edu, but couldn't spot it) There's also a shell script within the Pine distribution for converting .mailrc addresses into a Pine addressbook: contrib/utils/brk2pine.sh Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Aug 1995, Jeff L Jernegan wrote: > I've been lurking watching for an answer to an oft-asked question: > > How do you import a list of internet addresses into a Pine Addressbook > "distribution list" without retyping them all? > > Come on, _SOMEONE_ must have the answer...! > > Thanks! > > ------------- > Jeff Jernegan > ------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 01:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25829; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AB00857; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:49:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00851; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg6ml-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dyrdal@uci.agh.edu.pl (Krzysztof Dyrdal) Subject: PINE and PGP - possible ?? Date: 9 Aug 1995 10:38:56 +0200 Message-Id: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> Hi, Is there any easy trick to combine (automatic use) pine ond PGP encryption-decyuption of messages (pipe or sth else) ??? If anybody managed to use it in such a way - please - any suggestion would be appreciated. Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 04:41:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29853; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:41:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24751; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:35:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24745; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:35:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg9K9-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farrache@cc.in2p3.fr (Gilles Farrache) Subject: Any FAQ about Pine ? Date: 9 Aug 1995 11:15:28 GMT Message-Id: <40a5cg$4vn@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> is there a FAQ about Pine ? And if where is it possible to retrieve it ? Gilles Farrache From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 05:03:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00740; Wed, 9 Aug 95 05:03:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03502; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:59:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:59:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sg9ks-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 04:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Shell escape problem Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 12:47:06 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I normally access pine via telnet to a SUN unix system, which is in the middle of a Solaris1 (4.1.3) to Solaris2 (2.3) conversion. I have just converted myself to logging on to the Solaris 2 side, and have noticed a problem with shell escape (^-Z). The escape itself usually works fine, and I can happily obey commands, but when exiting the escape (using the fg command) Pine exits back to the shell prompt. A little while later a message appears:- Pine finished. Error reading from terminal: I/O error (Sometimes, just trying to escape with ^-Z causes pine to drop out, and this time there is no "explanatory" message). I suspect that one of the stty settings may be wrong, though they are the same as for the Solaris 1 system, where shell escape works fine. Any advice? The stty settings are:- speed 38400 baud; -parity swtch = ; brkint -inpck -istrip icrnl -ixany imaxbel onlcr tab3 echo echoe echok echoctl echoke iexten ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 06:35:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02501; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:35:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25886; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25880; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgB9j-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 06:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Multiple personal names? Date: 08 Aug 1995 10:43:17 -0500 Message-Id: Is it possible to have more than one personal name (not the correct term?) so that the "+" will show in the Index if it's to me, but not my "real" email address? For example, my login name is cdh, but my published address for our company (and what is on my business cards) is chalverson. I also have chrish, halverson, etc. I would like Pine to be able to recognize those addresses as coming to me so that the "+" would show in the index (and so it would not ask if I want to reply to all recipients). Is this possible? If so, how? Thanks for any responses. Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 07:29:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04864; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:29:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05627; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05621; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:24:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgC0J-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 07:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@OSU.EDU (Jerry Lynch) Subject: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: 9 Aug 1995 09:59:20 -0400 Message-Id: I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 10:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12336; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:17:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29991; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:14:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29985; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:14:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgEgg-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Pritchard Subject: Compiling PINE on BSDI Date: 9 Aug 1995 17:10:36 GMT Message-Id: <40aq6c$emn@insosf1.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am attempting to build PINE on my BSDI box. I tried it on two different versions and received this same error. Could you help me out? Thanks Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-bsd.h os.h /cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"BSD\" -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:72, from addrbook.c:65: os.h:200: conflicting types for `fpos_t' /usr/include/stdio.h:74: previous declaration of `fpos_t' *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex 348160 16384 34432 398976 61680 bin/mtest 360448 16384 41620 418452 66294 bin/imapd 188416 12288 7780 208484 32e64 bin/pico Done # -- John Pritchard Catalyst Solutions pritchj@siouxlan.com http://www.siouxlan.com 712-258-2771 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 10:37:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12967; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:37:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10080; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:35:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10074; Wed, 9 Aug 95 10:35:12 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA25297; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:50 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA23948; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:41 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01497; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:34:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 1995 11:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Function keys in xterm don't work Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 13:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Resent-From: "John R. Violette" Resent-To: Pine Info Resent-Message-Id: I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out there have such a file. Thanks. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 11:32:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15553; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:32:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11407; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:46 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA26311; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:36 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA24568; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:33 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA01659; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:29:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:29:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Pine, ispell integration Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If anybody is interested I have integrated ispell into Pine as the primary spell checker (CTRL-T) using the suggestion in the FAQ that to make ispell work you define your alternate editor as ispell and then use the CTRL-_ key binding to invoke the spell checker. What I did was strip down the function alt_editor() and call it ispell() and change the binding of CTRL-T to call ispell(). I then defined the SPELLER as isepll and took out a couple of things. So far it will only compile as ispell - you don't have a choice during the make between ispell and spell. Now you can have both an alternate editor and ispell and the user doesn't have to know how to invoke ispell. If there is enough interest I will make the diffs into a patch and post it somewhere (suggestions ?) for anyone else who wants it. BTW my system is HP-UX 9.01 7xx but it should work with any UNIX. It also works with the pico editor stand alone, as this is where the code was located. -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 11:32:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15593; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:32:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11422; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11415; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:29:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgFp5-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 11:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iyan@valleynet.com (Iyan Reed) Subject: attachment problem Date: 8 Aug 1995 23:29:54 -0700 Message-Id: <409kl2$h7u@sierra.valleynet.com> Whenever I try to include an attachment with my mail I get this message when I try to send: [ERROR positioning in /usr/home/iyan/mail/att8.7.95 : Invalid argument] and my attachments never are.....attached! Any pine or unix experts out there have any idea to the remedy? Thanks mucho; iyan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 13:11:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20020; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:11:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04070; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:08:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04064; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:08:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgHJ1-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larry@austin.ibm.com () Subject: Re: Add Reply-To: header in 3.89?? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 19:09:28 GMT References: <3vsfb6$csj@giga.bga.com> <4090uv$b84@frodo.smartlink.net> This works for me: customized-hdrs=Reply-to:llb@getinc.com I just added the value on the RHS of the ":" and pine seems to read and parse it just fine. I've also added subsequent headers by using a "," with no spaces around it and no spaces in the header or default value. I don't haven't ever tried assigning default values that contain spaces. -- ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 13:27:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20749; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:27:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14273; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14267; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:25:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgHe3-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 13:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: 9 Aug 1995 13:59:44 -0400 Message-Id: I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 14:49:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23866; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:49:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05988; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05982; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08196; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:46:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:46:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Chris D. Halverson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple personal names? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be available in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1995, Chris D. Halverson wrote: > Date: 08 Aug 1995 10:43:17 -0500 > From: Chris D. Halverson > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Multiple personal names? > > Is it possible to have more than one personal name (not the correct > term?) so that the "+" will show in the Index if it's to me, but not > my "real" email address? For example, my login name is cdh, but my > published address for our company (and what is on my business cards) > is chalverson. I also have chrish, halverson, etc. I would like Pine > to be able to recognize those addresses as coming to me so that the > "+" would show in the index (and so it would not ask if I want to > reply to all recipients). > > Is this possible? If so, how? Thanks for any responses. > > Chris > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 15:04:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24573; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:04:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06259; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06253; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:00:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgJ6p-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 14:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: prw1@cornell.edu (Paul R. Weber) Subject: HELP!! IDA sendmail and PINE/defuct processes Date: Wed, 09 Aug 1995 15:36:39 -0500 Message-Id: We are using IDA sendmail, dated 3/24/94 (I don't know the verion number), on an HP running 9.01. We have installed PINE 3.91 and pop/imap mail. Sendmail is creating, over time, a large number of defunct sendmail processes some how related to imapd. These processes fill the process table and kill the server. Does anyone have any idea how I can fix this problem. Right now I have a cron job killing and starting sendmail every 15 min. to clean out the process table. Thanks for your help! Paul R. Weber prw1@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 15:45:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26159; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:45:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17436; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:42:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starbase1.htls.lib.il.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17428; Wed, 9 Aug 95 15:42:05 -0700 Received: (from wakko@localhost) by starbase1.htls.lib.il.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16249; Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:32:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:32:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Wakko Warner-System Administrator-AKA Ron Chesko To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: INN 1.4 and pine 3.91 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All! I'm having a problem getting INN and Pine to work together. I think that I have everything set right but whenever I try to read my newsgroups thru pine I get either not articles exist (which I know they do thru using trn) or articles that say "no text..." (which I also know to be wrong thru trn). Any help would be greatly appreciated. System specs Sparc Solaris 2.4 w/recommended patches INN 1.4 with patches Pine 3.91 nntp-server=news.htls.lib.il.us <----this is my newsserver news-collections= <-----have tried multiple configs including: News *[*] News *{news.htls.lib.il.us/nntp}[*] and the default setting which is similar to above. TIA, Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Chesko, CNA *"cannot find the comfort in this world...victims in Decker at Large * demand for public show...a truant finds home, and * a wish to hold on to...coming up a which-way sign, * all good truants must decide...truants move on, * cannot stay long, some die just to live..." #include * -Pearl Jam "Immortality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 18:19:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02732; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:19:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10133; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:15:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10127; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:15:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgM9e-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: overlord@tao.kuai.se (Mattias Ahnberg) Subject: Questions!? Date: 10 Aug 1995 01:06:25 GMT Message-Id: <40bm2i$ibt@fizban.solace.mh.se> I have a couple of questions to ask concerning Pine. (I'm using v3.91) * Is there a FAQ available? If there is, where can it be found? * Is there some way you can make pine "sort out" messages from one or several adresses, and put them in a folder different than INBOX? Would be very handy when u're participating in several mailing lists and everything gets messed in the inbox. Thanks for your time, and I hope someone knows the answers to theese questions! -- [-AHNBERG-] Friendly Mailwriter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 20:43:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05577; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:43:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22702; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22696; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:41:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgOT9-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: PINE: multiple recipients, but NOT all named? Message-Id: References: <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:32:37 GMT In <4034uq$cgq@newsreader.wustl.edu> ats@hubert.wustl.edu (Alan Shutko) writes: >Christopher W. Curtis (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) wrote: >> In <3vtlca$deq@huron.eel.ufl.edu> dc@freenet.ufl.edu (David J. Campbell Jr.) writes: >> >can I use PINE to make a mailing list, in order to send the same Email to >> >multiple recipients withOUT the names of all the recipients appearing in >> >the To or Cc header? >> The method would be to send the mail to nobody or yourself, and then to >> Bcc it to the list. You can access Bcc in PINE by hitting -R in >> the message headers section. >You should always have at least one address (even invalid) in the To: or Cc: >headers. If you don't, sendmail will add Apparently-To: headers for >some number of the recipients. You don't see these headers in pine, >but you do in other mailer. Uhm, I thought that's what I said: To: nobody Cc: Bcc: (list) Sub: Nobody will be able to see each other -- T | Christopher Curtis | Those who would sacrifice | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | liberty for security | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | deserve neither. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N -Benjamin Franklin | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 21:55:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06959; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:55:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12564; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:52:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12558; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:52:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgPVv-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 21:25:55 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> I am very confused by this report. imapd does not use the root password; in fact, it is impossible to log into imapd as root or any other UID 0 user name. In order for imapd to process logins, it must be run by inetd with the following access: 1) it must be able to read passwords (whether from /etc/passwd or from a shadow password file) 2) it must be able to execute the setuid() and setgid() calls. This usually means that imapd needs to be run as root by inetd. imapd will discard its root access as part of the login process, so there is no security problem by doing this. On 9 Aug 1995, Ferry Winarta wrote: > I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via > imap2 port. > > It only works by using root password. > > We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with > NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). > > Is there anybody ever set this up, or have any idea for me to be tried. > > Thanks and Best Regards > > ferryw > > NB: I've posted the same subjects yesterday, but I couldn't find it > today. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:04:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08083; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:04:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24542; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24536; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQbs-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanislav shalunov Subject: Re: PINE and PGP - possible ?? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:31:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <409s70$cjt@galaxy.uci.agh.edu.pl> On 9 Aug 1995, Krzysztof Dyrdal wrote: > Hi, > Is there any easy trick to combine (automatic use) pine ond PGP > encryption-decyuption of messages (pipe or sth else) ??? > If anybody managed to use it in such a way - please - any suggestion would be > appreciated. > > Chris Yes, there is a nice script (using alternate editor hook). To obtain it send message to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp Stanislav Shalunov URL: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~shalunov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08146; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:07:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13311; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13305; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:01:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQcE-00038EC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanislav shalunov Subject: Several alternate editors Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:37:26 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A while ago script was posted that allowed using of several alternate editors; if somebody has it or remembers exect date of that post, please tell me. Thank you very much. Stanislav Shalunov URL: http://www.math.wisc.edu/~shalunov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:16:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08413; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:16:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24710; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:11:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24704; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:11:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgQnL-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Any FAQ about Pine ? Date: 10 Aug 1995 05:34:39 GMT Message-Id: <40c5pf$qbh@grape.epix.net> References: <40a5cg$4vn@ccpnws.in2p3.fr> Gilles Farrache (farrache@cc.in2p3.fr) wrote: : is there a FAQ about Pine ? And if where is it possible to retrieve it ? : Gilles Farrache try http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Not only the FAQ, but lottsa other good stuff ... Hope this helps ... G'Day ... sorry ... Bon Nuit ... /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 9 23:40:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08804; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:40:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13847; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:37:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13841; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:37:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgR9a-00038BC; Wed, 9 Aug 95 23:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ferry Winarta Subject: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: 9 Aug 1995 22:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via imap2 port. It only works by using root password. We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). Is there anybody ever set this up, or have any idea for me to be tried. Thanks and Best Regards ferryw NB: I've posted the same subjects yesterday, but I couldn't find it today. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 05:51:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17112; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:51:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29900; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:42:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29894; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:42:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgWtP-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Baruch David Kaufman Subject: Re: Questions about .forward Date: 10 Aug 1995 12:14:15 GMT Message-Id: <40ct6n$8ki@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SeJim Clark wrote: >Hi > >1. I have setup .forward with receiving address, but mail is not forwarded. > >2. Playing around with procmail and .forward to sort messages (as >described in FAQs) also does not work. My mail seems to disappear. > >Any obvious (or not so obvious) suggestions? I'm on Alpha with OSF/1 Have you set your the permission of .forward to 711 using chmod? This is necessary to allow others (including software) to access the file for forwarding information. >using Pine as mail program. I believe PMDF (?) is earlier part of mail >delivery. > -- ................................................................... Baruch David Kaufman . mail: kaufmb@cc.biu.ac.il . HAVE A . Bar Ilan University . tel : 972-3-531-8781 . WONDERFUL . Computer Center . fax : 972-3-534-4446 . DAY . Israel........................................................... . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 06:16:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17687; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:16:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00455; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:12:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from starbase1.htls.lib.il.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00449; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:12:27 -0700 Received: (from wakko@localhost) by starbase1.htls.lib.il.us (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA22969; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:03:08 -0500 Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 08:03:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Wakko Warner-System Administrator-AKA Ron Chesko To: Mattias Ahnberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Questions!? In-Reply-To: <40bm2i$ibt@fizban.solace.mh.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Aug 1995, Mattias Ahnberg wrote: > I have a couple of questions to ask concerning Pine. (I'm using v3.91) > > * Is there a FAQ available? If there is, where can it be found? http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ > > * Is there some way you can make pine "sort out" messages from one or > several adresses, and put them in a folder different than INBOX? Would > be very handy when u're participating in several mailing lists and > everything gets messed in the inbox. Pine will allow you to create the folders to do this but won't actually do the sorting. You have to use a program like procmail or filter. Filter usually comes with the elm distribution and procmail you can get from ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail > [-AHNBERG-] Friendly Mailwriter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's nice to know that there are still some Friendly Mailwriters left in this world. Ron ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Chesko, CNA *"cannot find the comfort in this world...victims in Decker at Large * demand for public show...a truant finds home, and * a wish to hold on to...coming up a which-way sign, * all good truants must decide...truants move on, * cannot stay long, some die just to live..." #include * -Pearl Jam "Immortality" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 06:22:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17796; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:22:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18323; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:17:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18317; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgXRK-00038KC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: Verifying addresses before sending Date: Wed, 9 Aug 1995 14:31:50 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Over 99% of the mail messages sent by our users are intra-domain: from one site in our company's domain to another. Because our logins are centrally administered, we know authoritatively whether a mailing address in our own domain is valid. It would be really nice for our users if Pine could check these addresses *before* the message is sent. If they have to wait for the mail system to send them a "not deliverable" notice, they may not catch a mis-typed address until the next time they check their mail. Even worse, if the typo is on a Cc: address, then every reply to their message will also generate an error. (We'd have no trouble writing the program that actually does the verification; all we need is for Pine to be able to connect to it. Almost any interface would work for us: running a program, connecting to a network port, issuing a Sendmail VRFY command, ....) Is anything like this planned for a future release? Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 07:41:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19553; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:41:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01638; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:36:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cosmail5.ctd.ornl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01632; Thu, 10 Aug 95 07:36:55 -0700 Received: from [128.219.128.57] (baloo.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.57]) by cosmail5.ctd.ornl.gov (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA08288 for ; Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:36:45 -0400 X-Sender: jnm@cosmail1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 10:36:46 -0400 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jamey Maze Subject: nulls in spool file, Pine ignores message We're having a problem periodically where sendmail writes a message to a spool file where the From line is preceeded with a series of nulls. This causes Pine to not see the beginning of the new message so it gets lost at the end of the previous message. The UCB mail program handles it okay and just opening and saving the spool file with mail will remove the nulls. Is this problem known and, if so, is there a fix? Much appreciated! PS: I've not been following pine-info lately. I apologize if this issue has been dealt with earlier. -- Jamey Maze TEL: (615)574-6355 FAX: (615)574-8922 Lockheed Martin Energy Systems / Oak Ridge National Laboratory P.O. Box 2008, MS-6394 / White Oak Road / Oak Ridge, TN 37831 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 10:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26742; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05988; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:43:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05980; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgbYa-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 10:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: br00031@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Subject: Print to "attached ascii problem" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 13:11:13 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi: When I print mail that is longer than a single page test is always lost. How do I set the print margins to fix this, or is there another solution. thanksfor the help. Karen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 12:47:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03198; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:47:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25731; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25725; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgdS1-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gildas PERROT Subject: REPOST : Pine 3.91 and 'From:' without hostname Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 11:18:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the lines in pine.conf : user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca use-only-domain-name=no I tried to use : user-domain= use-only-domain-name=yes but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have another configuration. Any idea about this problem ? Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 14:07:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06502; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:07:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10756; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:03:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10750; Thu, 10 Aug 95 14:03:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgegP-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Date: 10 Aug 1995 14:47:11 -0500 Message-Id: <40dnnv$lh1@mindy.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ larry@austin.ibm.com wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any -> way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... Start up PINE with "pine -d0". Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 15:32:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10647; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:32:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29254; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29248; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgg28-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larry@austin.ibm.com () Subject: Can I disable .pine-debug files? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:20:16 GMT I'd like to disable the .pine-debug? file generation. Is there any way to do that vi pine or the .pinerc? Thanks ... -- ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 15:32:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10673; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:32:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12906; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12899; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:28:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgg2H-00038EC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: klm@nist.gov (Kenneth Manheimer) Subject: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: 10 Aug 1995 14:00:40 -0400 Message-Id: Howdy. I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally rejects vm folders for saves. Now, vm is supposed to be rfc822 compliaint, but even if it's not perfectly so, i wish pine would let me append rfc822-formed messages in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the constraints on folder type for saves - require existence of the folder, and some basic mail-folder characteristics requirements, but don't be so stringent that mail-like folders are rejected. And btw, any word about when some patches and/or a new version might appear? I took a quick look at the code, but couldn't even locate significant portions of the "Unable to append mail to file" message, to find the relevant code to make the change myself. (And what i could track down did not look trivial...) ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 18:16:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17502; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:16:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02494; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02488; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:13:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgicH-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: IMAPD on SCO Open Server 3.2v4.2 Date: 10 Aug 1995 19:42:10 GMT Message-Id: <40dnei$ijg@tristram.edc.org> References: <40beg2$md8@mippet.ci.com.au> Ferry Winarta (ferryw@softplus.com.au) wrote: : I try to use pc pine to connect to our mail server (using pine 3.91), via : imap2 port. : It only works by using root password. : We are using C2 security features from SCO. This will run imapd with : NOLUID (set in /etc/inetd.conf). I believe that C2 uses Shadow passwords. As far as I've ever seen, Pine won't use Shadow passwords on SCO. This may not be the problem, but it seems likely to me. Try telnetting into the IMAP port and having the dialog by hand, so you can see the errors directly. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 19:31:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18981; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:31:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17487; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:29:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17481; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:29:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgjoL-00038EC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 19:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ron@devi.rtvf.nwu.edu (Ron Small) Subject: Re: TO: in FROM line not for newsgroups? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 21:01:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: In article , lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) wrote: > I like the feature of pine that mail with your FROM address is listed as > "TO: user@address". This is especially helpful in the "sent-mail" > folder. However, this does not seem to work for news posts? Is there a > way to have a similar feature where posts would look like "TO: newsgroup"? > > Thanks. > > Jerry When I send mail to a listserv that I am subscribed to, my posts are not identified by my name. The FROM line just says To:idm@hyperreal.com. When I send messages to individuals, it identifies me accurately in the FROM line. I'm not sure which pine setup file to change to fix this problem. Any help will be appreciated. Regards, ____________________________________________________________________ Ron Small Rational Graphics Inc. Chicago, USA "Let's Start What We Came In The Room To Do" ____________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:12:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21994; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:12:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05195; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05189; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:09:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmIN-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: nulls in spool file, Pine ignores message Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 16:50:38 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We believe that this problem will be fixed in Pine 3.92. If you are in a hurry, you can get the very latest ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-3.6.BETA.tar.Z and rebuild Pine 3.92 using the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit instead of the IMAP 3.5 that was distributed with Pine 3.91. Don't use the IMAP 4 alpha toolkit; Pine doesn't build with it yet. I just put in code from the IMAP 4 alpha toolkit into the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit that should nuke the last vestiges of this problem. Previous versions of the IMAP 3.6 beta toolkit fixed most occurances, but there was still a hole through which a few insects should slip through. On 10 Aug 1995, Jamey Maze wrote: > We're having a problem periodically where sendmail writes a message to a > spool file where the From line is preceeded with a series of nulls. This > causes Pine to not see the beginning of the new message so it gets lost at > the end of the previous message. The UCB mail program handles it okay and > just opening and saving the spool file with mail will remove the nulls. Is > this problem known and, if so, is there a fix? Much appreciated! > > PS: I've not been following pine-info lately. I apologize if this issue has > been dealt with earlier. > > > > -- > Jamey Maze TEL: (615)574-6355 FAX: (615)574-8922 > Lockheed Martin Energy Systems / Oak Ridge National Laboratory > P.O. Box 2008, MS-6394 / White Oak Road / Oak Ridge, TN 37831 > > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:22:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22146; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:22:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19873; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19865; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:19:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmS1-00038IC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com (Howard Goldstein) Subject: BUG? 3.91 bounce destination ignored, goes back to Reply-to: address Date: 11 Aug 1995 05:53:21 GMT Message-Id: <40er8h$c8b@ddi2.digital.net> My subject says it all, but it isn't consistent. Messages from one mailing list in particular (not a listserv) never bounce to where I send them; rather, they embarrasingly go back to the list! If someone would like to take a look at a few offending message header samples I'll be happy to email them. From a capture buffer, not a bounce, of that you can be sure ;-) (3.91 linux built from the jen-u-wine sources) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 22:27:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22281; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05341; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:24:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05335; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:24:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgmWB-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 17:02:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. Since Pine does not know what format the mail box file is in, it does not know what format in which to write the message. You would probably be very upset if Pine were to write a message to an executable binary file, or to a shell script, because you mistyped a name. You'd also be upset if Pine were to write a message to a vm mail box file using some other mail box format (meaning that vm wouldn't recognize it as a message). I hope that you now recognize that a "relaxation of the constrains of folder type for saves" is not what you want. If you want to write to an arbitrary file, the command to use is Export; if you want to write to vm folders, you either need to tell vm to use the standard Unix mail box format or you need to write a c-client driver to support the vm format. A typical c-client driver is pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client/bezerk.[ch] You basically need to copy this code, change all occurances of the string "bezerk" to "vm", then change the code to read/write vm format instead of Unix format. Not for the faint-hearted. On 10 Aug 1995, Kenneth Manheimer wrote: > Howdy. > > I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a > more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, > folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine > predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally > rejects vm folders for saves. > > Now, vm is supposed to be rfc822 compliaint, but even if it's not > perfectly so, i wish pine would let me append rfc822-formed messages > in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', > but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i > hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the > foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the > constraints on folder type for saves - require existence of the > folder, and some basic mail-folder characteristics requirements, but > don't be so stringent that mail-like folders are rejected. > > And btw, any word about when some patches and/or a new version might > appear? I took a quick look at the code, but couldn't even locate > significant portions of the "Unable to append mail to file" message, > to find the relevant code to make the change myself. (And what i > could track down did not look trivial...) > > ken > ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 10 23:18:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23185; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:18:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20597; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:14:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20591; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:14:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgnLs-00038BC; Thu, 10 Aug 95 23:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 11 Aug 1995 01:11:51 GMT Message-Id: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> So when will PINE 3.92 be released and how seamless will the PGP be integrated into it? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 02:47:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27144; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:47:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23236; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23230; Fri, 11 Aug 95 02:43:09 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host mary.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:40:34 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 10:40:29 +0100 (BST) From: mickey To: Gildas PERROT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: REPOST : Pine 3.91 and 'From:' without hostname In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Gildas, go to the Setup (press S on the Main Menu page) and then Configuration (press C). If the second line down says: user-domain = Then this is a sys-admin defined value and you cannot change it even if you change the .pinerc file. Having said that, I have just glanced up at your "From :" and it says: From: Gildas PERROT How are you seeing if the "Pinuche" is still being added, by sending mail to yourself? Try sendiing it to a friend instead. Mickey --------------------------------------------- | Two wrongs don't make a right, | | but three lefts do. | --------------------------------------------- On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > I am using Pine 3.91 since 1 year and I still have a problem I can > solve. It's about 'From:' field in outgoing mail. This one contains > the hostname of my mail exchanger, 'Pinuche' : > login@Pinuche.grbb.polymtl.ca. I would like to get just the domainame > : login@grbb.polymtl.ca. I have correctly configured my sendmail.cf on > my hosts in order to remove hostname from 'From:' when using 'mail' or > 'Mail' but with pine, I still have this problem. However, I have the > lines in pine.conf : > > user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca > use-only-domain-name=no > > I tried to use : > user-domain= > use-only-domain-name=yes > > but with no more success. I checked that my .pinerc doesn't have > another configuration. > > Any idea about this problem ? > > Thanks in advance for your help. Gildas. > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada -----_ \<,_ > # Tel: (514) 340-4184, local:A630.5.5 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (_)/ (_) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 03:11:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27829; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:11:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08389; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:07:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08383; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:07:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgqu4-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 03:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jonathan Butterworth Subject: Problems with a large (80 address) distribution list Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:36:36 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have been using pine for a while now, including using short distribution lists - I've been very impressed with the reliability. However, when I try to use a new distribution list I have, with 80 addresses on it, the mail does not get sent and I get no error messages. In .pine-debug1 the mail is flagged "SUCCESSFUL", but in the sendmail log there is just the line sendmail locked which looks bad. Unfortunately there's noone here with the expertise to go any further into the problem. (Incidentally the problem is not with any of the addresses on the list. When I break it up into 5 smaller lists, they work fine) Many thanks for any help or clues, Cheers, Jon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan M. Butterworth Tel:(+49)(40) 8998 2009 Fax:(+49)(40)8998 3092 Room 124 (Building 1b) ZEUS, DESY, Notkestr.85, Hamburg 22603 Pennsylvania State University http://zow00.desy.de:8000/~butterwo/TOP.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 04:26:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29733; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:26:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24782; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:22:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24776; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:22:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgs55-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Separate Local and Remote News possible? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 06:14:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Is it possible in Pine to have a remote news feed for newsgroups and a local site for local groups? If so I would appreciate hearing from someone with such a setup about what is required on the local site and how users should configure Pine. Take care Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 06:31:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02132; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:31:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10521; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:25:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10515; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:25:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgu2O-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 06:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nsheth@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Nischal Sheth) Subject: Prevent bell/beep sound Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:24:56 GMT Is there any way (other than improving my memory & typing) to prevent a beep sound when I press an invalid key. Thanks, Nischal. -- Nischal Sheth Phone: +1 (602) 967-8843 Email: nsheth@asu.edu WWW : http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~nsheth Pmail: 950 S. Terrace Rd, #C-250, Tempe, AZ-85281 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 08:31:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04941; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28200; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:23:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28194; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:23:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgvpI-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 08:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gdoucett@pX1.stfx.ca (Gary Doucette) Subject: PC-Pine won't follow nearest IP gateway? Date: 11 Aug 95 15:02:07 GMT Message-Id: We've setup PC-PINE v3.91 for DOS Packet Drivers on a Novell server which services many students on several IP subnets attached to a cisco router. The problem is that from areas not on the same subnet as the Novell Server a connection can't be made to the UNIX system which is the IMAP Server. I think the Nearest IP Gateway is the problem. We use NCSA Telnet with one CONFIG.TEL, but PC-PINE seems to want the gateway to point to the correct subnet instead of ARPing for an address. Any ideas? I have not read the FAQ. Is there one, and where is it? How does the TCP in Pine handle Nearest gateway addresses? Many Thanks, Gary _________________________________________________________ Gary Doucette gdoucett@stfx.ca Network Manager St. Francis Xavier University Antigonish, NS, CANADA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 09:48:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08867; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:48:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13816; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13810; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:41:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgx66-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: PINE - Stupid delays, removing them! Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:03:47 GMT Message-Id: <40fv13$eic@decaxp.harvard.edu> How do I remove the delay going into the in-box, and doing certain operations? I found nothing referring to it in .pinerc -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 09:56:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09308; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:56:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00503; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:51:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00497; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxII-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csmjb@isdnlin.mtsu.edu (Mark J. Bailey) Subject: Pine 3.91 for SCO (WITH NO TCP/IP) Date: 11 Aug 1995 10:31:57 -0500 Message-Id: hi has anyone built Pine 3.91 (or just a bit prior) for SCO unix that has no TCPIP? Like the SCO Unix 3.2v4.1? Ie, I need PINE/PICO that uses c-client for /usr/spool/mail/XXXX and MMDF ONLY. please email replies! Thanks, Mark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 10:10:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10186; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:10:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14323; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:06:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14317; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:06:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxT5-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rolfe@ibm.net (Rolfe Tessem) Subject: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 11 Aug 1995 15:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> I can't seem to get our domain name appended to the X-Sender: line, and it also doesn't appear in the Message-ID:, as you can see below. The From: line is fine, and sendmail seems to be behaving itself with all other mail clients on the system. This is Pine 3.91 on a Next. Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a cosmetic issue? Any hints greatly appreciated. --- Received: from rosebud.ldp.com (rosebud.ldp.com [149.90.1.3]) by daffy.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.287) with ESMTP id LAA11187 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:17:27 -0400 Received: from localhost (rolfe@localhost) by rosebud.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.788743) id LAA15789; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Rolfe Tessem X-Sender: rolfe@rosebud ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ To: rolfe@ldp.com Subject: test test test Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -- Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions, Inc rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street (212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 10:40:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11609; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:40:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01575; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01569; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:36:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgxxQ-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dab@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (Doug Brandon) Subject: Pine startup question Date: 11 Aug 1995 09:17:20 -0700 Message-Id: <40fvqg$t69@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> I just got done compiling pine 3.91 on HP-UX using gcc and it behaves a little differently than the version on my internet service provider. The ISP copy startup and goes to the main menu, while my freshly compiled version immediately goes to the INBOX folder. How can I get pine to go to the main menu upon startup? Doug -- /*--------------------------------------------------------------------*/ Doug Brandon http://www.kaiwan.com/~dab dab@kaiwan.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 11:00:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12671; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:00:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15340; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15334; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgyJV-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 10:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: modrall@swcp.com (Modrall Law Firm) Subject: Help: Need and SMTP to MHS gateway Date: 11 Aug 1995 16:49:00 GMT Message-Id: <40g1ls$bqe@sloth.swcp.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 11:24:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13635; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:24:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02714; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:21:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sgye2-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 11:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Common mail groupware software Date: 11 Aug 95 17:36:57 GMT Message-Id: References: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes: >Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software >that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. >I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding >to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. "Locking" is so non-trivial that I suggest to either set up a mailing list or create a local newsgroup. You could also make the mail folder available as a web page but then everybody *could* read it. Oh, well. Anyway, if you're only *reading* from the same folder then there should be no problem. YOu only need locking if new mail will be put into the folder. Sven Cc: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) -- ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || ELM 2.5 is still in alpha The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950801] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 12:45:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17083; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:45:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17291; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dmog10.bell.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17285; Fri, 11 Aug 95 12:37:19 -0700 Received: from dmoc61.on.bell.ca by dmog10.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA12412; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:45 -0400 Received: from huhc06.ON.Bell.Ca by dmoc61.on.bell.ca with SMTP (5.65/fma-120691) id AA09496; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:41 -0400 Received: by huhc06 (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19093; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:36:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:36:39 -0400 (EDT) From: "John R. Violette" Reply-To: jviolett@on.bell.ca To: Pine Info Subject: Re: Function keys in xterm don't work In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: Bell Canada Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dumb question! It was in the Pine Technical Notes page 46. But now I have the problem that when I do use function keys, and I go into the setup menu, the F4 (Newpassword) and F5 (Config) choices beep at me with no error message, but the others work (Update Cancel Printer and Help) all work with the function keys. Also F4 and F5 seem to work everywhere else. Pine 3.91 HPUX 9.01 7XX. Thanks for any help. On Tue, 8 Aug 1995, John R. Violette wrote: > I have Pine 3.91 running in an HP-UX 9.01 xterm, and if I invoke pine -k, I > get the function key menu at the bottom but when I press any function key > I get a '[Command "D" not defined for this screen. Use F1 for help]' > error in the status line. Do I need a special X Resource file for this to > work so that the function keys are mapped and if so does anybody out > there have such a file. > -- | John R. Violette | Software Development | | B e l l Canada | Voice: 905-577-6785 Fax: 905-577-4813 | | Ontario Ops. Support | E-Mail: jviolett@ON.Bell.CA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:17:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:17:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20549; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20543; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:14:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh2G3-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joewo@sierra.net (joewo) Subject: FREE AGENT READER HELP Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 21:53:04 GMT Message-Id: <40gjes$a97@jobes.sierra.net> HI i have the FREE AGENT newsreader system and it is quite easy...and seems to have all of the basics put on an icon bar. i have used it for a week now and love it...just one question though...in looking over the newsgroups it seems the system saves the articles in my computer's harddrive. i wish to purge them but every time i do what seems to be the most logical way to do this...clck on the purge articles option i go back and see all of the old articles when i want to only see the new unread articles. any idea how to solve my little problem??? joe in chiCO CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24216; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20892; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20886; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28817; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:31:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 15:31:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Clark Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Separate Local and Remote News possible? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could have two news-collections, one local and one remote. As long as there is no overlap in the newsgroup names you should not have any problem... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 11 Aug 1995, Jim Clark wrote: > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 06:14:44 -0500 > From: Jim Clark > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Separate Local and Remote News possible? > > Hi > > Is it possible in Pine to have a remote news feed for newsgroups and a > local site for local groups? If so I would appreciate hearing from > someone with such a setup about what is required on the local site and > how users should configure Pine. > > Take care > Jim > > **************************************************************************** > James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 > Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax > University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca > Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A > CANADA > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:44:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24687; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:44:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08772; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08766; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh2ln-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dboldt@usgs.gov (David Boldt) Subject: auto-login and IMAP Message-Id: <1995Aug11.221743.716@rsg1.er.usgs.gov> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 22:17:43 GMT I am running pine on a Linux system. is there anywhere i can store the userid and password so that i will not be prompted for them? -- --david boldt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 15:45:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24738; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:45:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21146; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:42:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from agora.ualr.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21140; Fri, 11 Aug 95 15:42:37 -0700 Received: (from dspiller@localhost) by agora.ualr.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA14069; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:19:00 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:18:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "David S. Spillers" Reply-To: Daniel Spillers , "David S. Spillers" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP: Cannot post to local newsgroup Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Problem: We have the pine.conf* files set up with an NNTP-SERVER and then various news collections. One of those news collections is for a news host other than our NNTP-SERVER (our NNTP-SERVER happens to be a remote machine, while the aforementioned news collection is set to our local machine). Now, when we subscribe to one of the newsgroups in the "local" collection, everything is fine. It sees the proper list. However, once an attempt is made to POST to this "local" newsgroup, an error message that looks something like 'ERROR 441: Unable to post to newsgroup "(null)"' is sent to us and the post fails. We want to be able to read AND post from/to _both_ servers, and were wondering if anyone could explain what the problem is. Possible Troubleshooting: We have examined our local "inn" and "innd" programs to see if they are configured properly. As far as we know, they are, but they might not be. We might have confliction between pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed, although we were very careful. Does Pine allow you to post/read from more than one server? Please help us with this. Thank you, David S. Spillers Daniel Spillers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 18:54:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00360; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:54:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23915; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:52:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23909; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:52:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh5fv-00038BC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 18:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: PGP - Integrated, Behind the scenes Message-Id: <40goll$etb@rose.muohio.edu> Date: 11 Aug 1995 23:21:25 GMT References: <3vtmb7$6eb@decaxp.harvard.edu> And imagine all the sleep I'd loose knowing that anyone with access to my account (by cracking my password or with privledge) could send mail authenticated as me, and decrypt all my mail sent to me (and probably all the files I encrypted if it's integrated well). No thanks. I would support something that allowed me to specify if I wanted it signed, then asked for my passphrase. I would support something that verfied signatures on signed mail received by me and told me it was valid. But, I don't want anything signing things automatically, or decrypting automatically, that just causes it to loose it's significance. Actually, a collegue of mine here wrote some shell scripts and a .forward filter that will perform all of this automatically, without the use of mkpgp. -Rob Lester Vecsey (vecsey@course1.harvard.edu) wrote: : Any hopes of including PGP support in PINE? mkpgp works ok, but it would : be REALLY nice if PGP could be integrated in pine as well as MIME support : is for attachments. i.e., every message you type in pine would be : automatically signed by your secret key and messages sent to you would : automatically be checked for validity, and decrypted on the fly without : you even knowing it. Imagine all the new people that would be using pgp : if it was as simple as that. : -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 21:45:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03490; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:45:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25644; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25638; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sh8NB-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: teal@netcom.com (TEAL@netcom.com) Subject: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 02:03:03 GMT I recently sent an e-mail to eleven people. To avoid revealing their addresses, I addressed the message to myself and "Bcc'ed" everyone else. I also Bcc'ed myself, as I usually do when I send an important message. However, I received only one message in my mailbox. I never received the Bcc I sent myself. Shouldn't I have received two copies of the message? Your e-mail response is appreciated. Thanks. --Jodi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 22:30:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04546; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:30:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14907; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14901; Fri, 11 Aug 95 22:24:58 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id XAA22376 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:55 -0600 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.125.10]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA81541 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:44 -0600 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id XAA56596; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:28 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:24:28 -0600 (MDT) From: Lea Andrellan X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Swedish characters In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 5 Aug 1995, Brian D. Uhreen wrote: > =09Could someone tell me how I could configure lynx and/or the Pine > mailer so they will show the swedish characters proporly. I have my > computer set to swedish and I would like to be able to see an A (and a > with two dots on it) and the rest when ppl write to me >=20 > The letters "a" with a dot, "a" with two dots and "o" with two dots > looks like this if I type them, first a capital and then a small one > they are in the order as above: > =C5=E5 =C4=E4 =D6=F6=20 >=20 > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^< I would like them to show up as the actual letter=20 > rather than (for ex) a '*' or a 'A'. See if the following is of any help to you: To see a list of all available language sets on gpu, type =20 locale -a at the gpu sustem prompt. =20 Modify .pinerc to include the proper ISO-nnnn-n string in the=20 character-set option. Then put the following in the bottom of your .cshrc file: setenv LANG xx_xx ie setenv LANG sv_SE Then logout and log back in. Then either find an article in the desired=20 language to display, or create a piece of mail to yourself and try to=20 look at it. We've successfully used the above method here for both the French and=20 Swedish language sets, so far... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpde= sk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) ..Mommy, what does FORMATTING DRIVE C: mean?... ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 23:42:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05572; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:42:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15707; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15701; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shAAe-00038EC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:16:08 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Your /etc/hosts.txt -- or, since you are on a NeXT, your NetInfo database -- is incorrectly configured. Look at the entry for the local host. You will see that "rosebud" appears before "rosebud.ldp.com". You need to reverse the order so that the full name appears first. On 11 Aug 1995, Rolfe Tessem wrote: > I can't seem to get our domain name appended to the X-Sender: line, and > it also doesn't appear in the Message-ID:, as you can see below. > > The From: line is fine, and sendmail seems to be behaving itself with > all other mail clients on the system. This is Pine 3.91 on a Next. > > Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a > cosmetic issue? > > Any hints greatly appreciated. > --- > Received: from rosebud.ldp.com (rosebud.ldp.com [149.90.1.3]) by daffy.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.287) with ESMTP id LAA11187 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:17:27 -0400 > Received: from localhost (rolfe@localhost) by rosebud.ldp.com (8.6.5/8.6.4.788743) id LAA15789; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:20 -0400 > Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 11:15:19 -0400 (EDT) > From: Rolfe Tessem > X-Sender: rolfe@rosebud > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > To: rolfe@ldp.com > Subject: test test test > Message-ID: > ^^^^^^^^ > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > -- > Rolfe Tessem | Lucky Duck Productions, Inc > rolfe@ldp.com | 96 Morton Street > (212) 463-0029 | New York, NY 10014 > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 11 23:43:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05617; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:43:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26740; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26734; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:37:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shAAf-00038HC; Fri, 11 Aug 95 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 23:18:19 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> On 11 Aug 1995, Rolfe Tessem wrote: > Are either of these going to cause problems, or is this strictly a > cosmetic issue? PS: I forgot to answer this. It is strictly a cosmetic issue. The X-Sender header is not an official header, and is not subject to any rules. The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in reality it a since word without any dots is valid. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 01:29:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07706; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:29:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17103; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:28:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17097; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:28:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shBtX-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 01:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 12 Aug 1995 08:02:00 GMT Message-Id: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> References: <40ftbu$ajj@daffy.ldp.com> In Mark Crispin writes: >The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of >the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people >into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in >reality it a since word without any dots is valid. Some of the the allegedly misled people were actually wondering how one can ensure the required uniqueness of a Message-ID that has a simple hostname on the right of the @ sign instead of a fully qualified domain name. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 04:33:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11441; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:33:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29967; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29961; Sat, 12 Aug 95 04:31:19 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 12 Aug 95 19:29:04 +0800 Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 19:29:04 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Rahul Dhesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? In-Reply-To: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > In Mark Crispin writes: > > >The rules for the Message-ID header specify that the token to the right of > >the "@" be a what RFC-822 calls a "domain". This has misled some people > >into thinking that a fully-qualified name must be specified, but in > >reality it a since word without any dots is valid. > > Some of the the allegedly misled people were actually wondering how one > can ensure the required uniqueness of a Message-ID that has a simple > hostname on the right of the @ sign instead of a fully qualified domain > name. To quote RFC-822 4.6.1. MESSAGE-ID / RESENT-MESSAGE-ID This field contains a unique identifier (the local-part address unit) which refers to THIS version of THIS message. The uniqueness of the message identifier is guaranteed by the host which generates it. This identifier is intended to be machine readable and not necessarily meaningful to humans. A message identifier pertains to exactly one instantiation of a particular message; subsequent revisions to the message should each receive new message identifiers. unquote. It says *nothing* about world uniqueness. Note also the phrase "refers to *THIS* version of *THIS* message". In never states anything about *ALL* messages. Indeed, later in the RFC this example is given: Message-ID: <4231.629.XYzi-What@Other-Host> I would think this should clear up any misunderstanding. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 06:20:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12899; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:20:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00984; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00978; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:18:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shGPF-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 06:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Pine startup question Date: 12 Aug 1995 09:13:28 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40fvqg$t69@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Doug, From the Main Menu, choose Setup, Config. Then go to the line that says "initial-keystroke-list" and set that equal to "m". That should do it. Jerry On 11 Aug 1995, Doug Brandon wrote: > I just got done compiling pine 3.91 on HP-UX using gcc and it behaves > a little differently than the version on my internet service provider. > The ISP copy startup and goes to the main menu, while my freshly > compiled version immediately goes to the INBOX folder. How can I get > pine to go to the main menu upon startup? > Doug > /*--------------------------------------------------------------------*/ > Doug Brandon http://www.kaiwan.com/~dab dab@kaiwan.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 08:37:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14637; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22411; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:34:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22405; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shIWR-00038HC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? Date: 12 Aug 1995 15:19:32 GMT Message-Id: <40igq4$2t3@bug.rahul.net> References: <40hn5o$t99@bug.rahul.net> In Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Ed Greshko) writes: > To quote RFC-822 > It says *nothing* about world uniqueness. I believe that the BNF, which includes the line: msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id settles the issue. 1. The comment 'Unique message id' is clear. 2. It is clearly the intent of RFC822 that any message crossing domain boundaries should use a sufficiently qualified domain name in the addr-spec. I see no exception to this rule for message-ids. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 09:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15110; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:10:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02480; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:09:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02474; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shJ5k-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 09:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwarchut@scully.oit.umass.edu (Michael Warchut) Subject: Why do I get this error??? Date: 12 Aug 1995 15:36:29 GMT Message-Id: <40ihpt$aj7@nic.umass.edu> Problems restoring permissions of folder /var/spool/mail/brad! -- *---------------------------------------------------* | Michael W. Warchut Voice: 413-545-2036 | | Senior Technician Fax : 413-545-2418 | | PC Maintenance Lab You breakem I fixem | | University of Mass 50% of the time!! | *---------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 18:38:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23925; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:38:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29684; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29678; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shRsj-00038DC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 18:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy) Subject: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 02:12:43 +0100 Message-Id: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> I have to choose between elm and pine for a large (180) freshman class next year. What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Neither seems to come with very good documentation. [I'd prefer something in texinfo format, given a choice.] Is there any independent documentation available? What are the relative usages of the two ? Are both reasonably certain to survive ? Any and all opinions gratefully received. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie tel: +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 12 23:42:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29448; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:42:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11116; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:41:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11110; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shWi9-00038EC; Sat, 12 Aug 95 23:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 07:49:25 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 01:21:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01546; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:21:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04833; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:17:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04827; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:17:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shY9l-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 01:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 04:06:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan Stan, you need to put the NNTP setup in the PINE Config file. At the Main Menu, hit S for Setup and C for Config. Then put the name of your news server where it says NNTP-Server. (If you don't know what it is, ask your system administrator.) And while you're in the config file, you might as well make and X where it says "enable expanded view of folders" and "enable aggregate commands," both of which will save you time when you use Pine as a newsreader. __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 04:35:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05292; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:35:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14112; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14106; Sun, 13 Aug 95 04:31:36 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 13 Aug 95 19:29:17 +0800 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 19:29:17 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Rahul Dhesi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Are these headers going to cause problems? In-Reply-To: <40igq4$2t3@bug.rahul.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1995, Rahul Dhesi wrote: > I believe that the BNF, which includes the line: > > msg-id = "<" addr-spec ">" ; Unique message id > > settles the issue. Sure.....if you don't read and understand the rest of the RFC. Anyway, this is not a pine issue, more like an ietf-822 issue ....so off pine list. I wouldn't have put this on the pine list either...but my direct message from yesterday is still in the output queue. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:22:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08326; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:22:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16158; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:17:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16152; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:17:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sheiw-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Elizabeth Malekzadeh Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 14:24:37 GMT Message-Id: <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to choose between elm and pine for a large (180) freshman class next year. What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Neither seems to come with very good documentation. [I'd prefer something in texinfo format, given a choice.] Is there any independent documentation available? What are the relative usages of the two ? Are both reasonably certain to survive ? Any and all opinions gratefully received. -------------------- Personally, I prefer pine! I've been using both for quite a while and IMHO it's much easier to use pine. However, using elm, you can (for example) "read" MIME attachments without down loading the stuff.. with pine you have to write it in a file first. Hard to say which one is better... both have their positive and negative sides! -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%THOUGHT OF THE WEEK%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Life %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% must be lived forwards, %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% but %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% can only be understood backwards. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % % %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% "SOREN KIERKEGAARD" %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:36:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08575; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:36:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16265; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lightlink.satcom.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16259; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30:37 -0700 Received: (from jsheldon@localhost) by lightlink.satcom.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA21509; Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:40:07 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 08:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jon Sheldon To: Stanley Tomshinsky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NNTP newsgrps In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Stanley Tomshinsky wrote: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan I just got my setup right. Try putting an X in the block. [X] news-approximates-new-status [X] news-post-without-validation [X] news-read-in-newsrc-order Good luck. BTW, what kind of Amiga are you on and where can I get a copy of AmigaMosaic? Jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 08:37:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08615; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:37:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10034; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:32:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10028; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:32:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shezJ-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Arthur H. Johnson" Subject: highlight problem Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:02:23 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine 3.91 (or try to) with 2 different servers. The one from which I am sending this is a freenet, and I have no problems with Pine here. The other is a relatively new commercial server, and when I use Pine on it everything is highlighted, and I can't tell where I am. The system administrator claims that the problem is at my end, but I'm quite sure it isn't for 3 reasons. One is that Pine works great from my other server. Two is that the problem appears on 2 different comm programs I've tried. Three is that the same problem occurs regardless of whether I'm using my computer at home or the one at the office. You may wonder why I don't just use the freenet all the time, but I get a busy signal about 95% of the time when I try to connect. I am going to be using e-mail for business purposes and I need to have both a reliable connection and an e-mail program (preferably Pine) which works right. Please send responses by mail. I'll read them at 2 a.m. when I'm able to connect. Art Johnson afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 09:07:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09152; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:07:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16587; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16581; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shfQ2-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 08:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm Date: 13 Aug 1995 15:22:24 GMT Message-Id: <40l5bg$7oa@news1.halcyon.com> References: <40jjib$k6s@bell.maths.tcd.ie> <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> Elizabeth Malekzadeh writes: >I have to choose between elm and pine >for a large (180) freshman class next year. >What are the merits and demerits of these rivals ? Use whichever one is easier to support. I have found that pine is better than elm for neophytes, as they usually need to be retrained after taking a lunch break. Besides, Pine Is Neo-logistically Elm. -- Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services ISDN -- don't take SLOW for an answer! info@nwnexus.wa.com, finger info@halcyon.com, or: +1 206 455 3505 voice From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 09:08:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09185; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:08:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10448; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10442; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shfT1-00038HC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivan.szanto@dataware.hu Subject: IMAP & sun-mailtool Date: 13 Aug 1995 17:55:14 +0200 Message-Id: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in 2 or more parts. For example when I forward a message with mailtool, the message will contain the following 3 lines (approx): ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From sztaki!FlashBack.com!flash Tue Feb 7 16:09 MET 1995 IMAP will cut the message into 2 messages, though with mailtool I could read the message as one. The problem is more annoying, because after only visiting (and not reading) the message with IMAP, mailtool becomes also unable to read the message correctly. I think, mailtool uses one of the headers Content-Length or X-Lines, to recognize, that this is one message, rather than two. Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? I tried Keith Moore's sun-to-mime program to resolve this problem, but it didn't work. thanx a lot for any answer in advance, Ivan Szanto ivan.szanto@dataware.hu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 10:35:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10587; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:35:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17415; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17409; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:27:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shgnh-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 10:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: IMAP & sun-mailtool Date: 13 Aug 1995 16:52:07 GMT Message-Id: <40lajn$ott@kronos.fmi.fi> References: <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article <40l792$9k6@helka.iif.hu> of "ivan.szanto" [ Added comp.mail.misc as receiver. Followups to comp.mail.misc ] ivan.szanto@dataware.hu writes in comp.mail.{pine,mime}: »I use both IMAP & sun-mailtool. Sometimes when I receive a message »sent with mailtool and I read it with IMAP, it will be separated in »2 or more parts. »For example when I forward a message with mailtool, the message will »contain the following 3 lines (approx): »----- Begin Included Message ----- » »From sztaki!FlashBack.com!flash Tue Feb 7 16:09 MET 1995 »IMAP will cut the message into 2 messages, though with mailtool »I could read the message as one. The problem is more annoying, »because after only visiting (and not reading) the message with »IMAP, mailtool becomes also unable to read the message correctly. »I think, mailtool uses one of the headers Content-Length or »X-Lines, to recognize, that this is one message, rather than two. »Is this a known compatibility problem? Is there a fix for it? Your IMAP server don't support that mailbox format where "From " -lines are not escaped. Instead there is Content-Length -header, which tells lenght of body of mail in mailbox in bytes. Yes, you have compatibility problem between your local mailer and IMAP server. (Your local mailer does actual delivery to mailbox.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 11:46:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11566; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:46:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12234; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:32:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12222; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:32:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shhmt-00038DC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ken Manheimer Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:18:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I (ken) had written: > > Howdy. > > > > I use pine for previewing and quick-handling of my email deluge, and a > > more automatable email interface (emacs vm) for systematic foldering, > > folder perusal, etc. (Work dynamics as they are, i wind up using pine > > predominantly.) My problem is that pine more-than-occasionally > > rejects vm folders for saves. On Thu, 10 Aug 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a > file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of > mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs > vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. No, as i tried to say, pine accepts the majority of folder i create using pine. However, it does not accept a few, and those few totally disrupt my efforts to do my "foldering" from pine. Morever, those few that it rejects are readable using, eg, Unix mail, and maybe even Pine itself! > You would probably be very upset if Pine were to write a message to an > executable binary file, or to a shell script, because you mistyped a name. > You'd also be upset if Pine were to write a message to a vm mail box file > using some other mail box format (meaning that vm wouldn't recognize it as > a message). I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > I hope that you now recognize that a "relaxation of the constrains of > folder type for saves" is not what you want. Rather, i think you misapprehended what i was requesting! I was aware of the usefulness of rejecting unrelated folders! > If you want to write to an arbitrary file, the command to use is Export; I'm surprised you missed when i said: > > in a file when i wish to do so! (I realize that i can use 'export', > > but it loses information. And besides, it doesn't do completion - i > > hope that's being corrected in the next release! - which makes the > > foldering process much more clunky...) So i request relaxation of the (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another release - any word on that?) ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 15:46:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15293; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:46:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15177; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:43:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15171; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:43:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shlhU-00038EC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stom@galactica.it Subject: Re:NNTP newsgrps Date: Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:46:40 GMT+1 Message-Id: <19950813.7BEB160.15622@stom.galactica.it> References: > Hello, I am new to Pine. I didn't figure out how to read the newsgroups > on Pine...I have .newsrc and a NNTP setup on an Amiga, but when I open > I can't get the newsgroups listing or anything...in fact I am reading > newsgroups from AmigaMosaic....Stan Well I did get the newsgroup reading going. Reading the instuctions... and the help.guide is fine...GOOD PROGAM........Stan :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 17:01:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16782; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:01:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21148; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:58:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21142; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shmrg-00038UC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete HOLSBERG) Subject: Posting A Mail Message Message-Id: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 23:36:06 GMT Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the contents of the resulting file? Thanks, Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 17:46:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17602; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:46:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16667; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:43:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16661; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:43:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shnbb-00038YC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 17:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rock-Man Subject: Saved Messages Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 20:21:50 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to know how to change the subject of a message. Also how to put two or more different messages into one. Any help would be great. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rock Wigger wiggers@river.it.gvsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 18:47:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18510; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:47:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22130; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22124; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shoY6-00038cC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 18:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff McLellan Subject: Pine & Procmail Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 21:24:54 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've read that Procmail can be used as a delivery filter with Pine. I've found Procmail but can do nothing with it. I have decompressed it but now all I have is a 660KB(+/-) "Procmail" file. I've looked for help files at several WWW locations but all I find mentions the fact that Procmail can be used with Pine...but none explain how to set it up in my UNIX home directory...basicly I have no clue on what to do with it or how to set it up. If anyone can offer me directions to resources or help files (or just a clue) - I'll greatly appreciate it. Thank you, ------------------------------- |Jeff McLellan |"I distrust the incommunicable; it is |a.k.a.: atticus@mainelink.net |the source of all violence" - Sartre | : scout@server.nlbbs.com | ------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 20:55:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20593; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:55:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18928; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:53:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18922; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:53:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shqWu-00038lC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: [PGP] - New Version of PINE Date: 14 Aug 1995 03:22:38 GMT Message-Id: <40mfhu$duv@decaxp.harvard.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Instead of just adding a system call to the pgp program from within PINE (the new version that is, 3.92?) it would be really nice if there was an option during compilation to fully integrate PGP into the PINE program. This way PGP encryption would be done completely in the background, and the keys etc signatures could be parsed out on the fly and not be displayed at all by default. In this way PGP would appear completely transparent. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.1 iQCVAwUBMC7CBVMwpZR/o0fhAQECUAQA27vfoOslfFRxjGd813Gt/Fz8PeP7q/vK DM7MfEWBEvhwI4E1iCoK0deP8xcE1Fdtdbgtj/BLviqaNR/eWyWC4po1SLj1Dlq/ HmQa6fcm0dXXax0zHoApGQFRJv1IOsFo0YZHDAGLDAWmI9rfYg1JfPs4xE4gdak5 yjuVE5CfbwU= =ZbRb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 21:41:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21511; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:41:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23927; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23921; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrIM-00038nC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 21:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th (Hywel Phillips) Subject: Word-wrap? Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:23:44 GMT Message-Id: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - I'd like to get it down to around 65 or so. Thanks for any help. -- Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:10:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22148; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:10:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20080; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20074; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:08:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrgx-00038nC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: How to send a MIME mail? Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:49:08 GMT Message-Id: <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Hi, I am new to the pine, so lots of stuff there I am not familiar, especially the MIME part. Can anybody tell me how to send a variety of MIME mail instead of just "Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN", for example, can I send a "text/html" mail, so that when others read this mail, it will automatically pop up a mosaic or netscape browser to let others read the mail contents? Thanks in advance! -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... lark@cs.iastate.edu lark@iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~lark/homepage.html +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ |Z|h|e|n|g|,|L|i| +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:29:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22447; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24436; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:27:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24430; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:27:45 -0700 Received: from quoin1.UUCP by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.0.2) id AA23324; Mon, 14 Aug 95 01:26:19 EDT Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shrwQ-000HuAC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 01:20 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 01:20:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Hywel Phillips Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Word-wrap? In-Reply-To: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1995, Hywel Phillips wrote: > Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of > columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - Currently not possible in pine-3.91 but will supposedly be available in the next release. An alternative is to use the alternate editor feature and use an editor where you can control the number of columns. Works like a charm. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin, Inc Suite 200 North local voice: +1.203.295.0874 124 Mount Auburn Street voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22488; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:30:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24466; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24460; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0k-00038tC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:00:29 GMT Message-Id: <40ml9d$bu8@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:30:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22505; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24482; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24476; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0Q-00038sC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:00:09 GMT Message-Id: <40ml8p$bsr@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:31:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22535; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:31:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24474; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24468; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0O-00038qC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:58:16 GMT Message-Id: <40ml58$br6@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:31:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22578; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:31:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20334; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20326; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:29:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0P-00038rC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:59:38 GMT Message-Id: <40ml7q$brj@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:32:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22610; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:32:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20302; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20296; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:28:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shs0M-00038oC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 04:52:54 GMT Message-Id: <40mkr6$bpb@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- -- I believe a leaf of grass is no less than the journeywork of the stars, And the pismire is equally perfect, and a grain of sand, ... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:40:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22718; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20443; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20437; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsA1-00038oC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: How to send a MIME mail? Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:02:15 GMT Message-Id: <40mlcn$bui@news.iastate.edu> Hi, I am new to the pine, so lots of stuff there I am not familiar, especially the MIME part. Can anybody tell me how to send a variety of MIME mail instead of just "Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN", for example, can I send a "text/html" mail, so that when others read this mail, it will automatically pop up a mosaic or netscape browser to let others read the mail contents? Thanks in advance! -- lark@cs.iastate.edu lark@iastate.edu http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~lark/homepage.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22723; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:40:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20475; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20448; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsB6-00038rC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:03:14 GMT Message-Id: <40mlei$buq@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:43:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22804; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:43:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24589; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:39:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24583; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:38:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shsAW-00038qC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@popeye.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 05:03:03 GMT Message-Id: <40mle7$bup@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 22:50:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22993; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:50:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24662; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:46:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ksc.au.ac.th by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24656; Sun, 13 Aug 95 22:45:51 -0700 Received: by ksc.au.ac.th (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA14313; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:43:17 +0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:43:16 +0700 (TST) From: Hywel Phillips To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Word-wrap? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > > Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of > > columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - > > Currently not possible in pine-3.91 but will supposedly be available > in the next release. > > An alternative is to use the alternate editor feature and use an > editor where you can control the number of columns. Works like a > charm. Thanks, any suggestions as to an editor ? Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:14:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23506; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:14:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24984; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:11:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24972; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:10:47 -0700 Received: from chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au (seanv@chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au [132.234.28.11]) by ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA19756; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:57 +1000 Received: (from seanv@localhost) by chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au (8.6.10/8.6.10) id QAA03835; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:14 +1000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:09:14 +1000 Message-Id: <199508140609.QAA03835@chimaera.itc.gu.edu.au> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Sherry Lake , Steve Holstead , Terry Gray , Chip Old , Frank Yao , Andrew Bennett From: Sean Vickery Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia Subject: Runaway Pine bug solved, patch included Keywords: pine, runaway, bug, poll [If you reply or followup to this, could you please Cc: me as I read neither pine-info nor comp.mail.pine.] Fellow Pine users, After some frustrating months of tracking down runaway Pine processes each day and killing them by hand, I decided to find and fix the cause of the problem in the Pine sources. Some debugging revealed that the hanging Pines are doing a tight loop in read_with_timeout(). The logic in this function is slightly awry; it does not cater for read(terminal) returning zero bytes. My patch is at the end of this message; it's a one-line fix. Not one Pine has run away since I patched them a week ago. Before I patched Pine, I was getting about one runaway Pine per day per machine on average. I saw the problem only with Pine 3.91. Pine 3.89, which we still use on some of our machines, has never runaway on us. Pine 3.91 was running away on both Solaris 2.3 and 2.4. If there are any Pine developers reading this, perhaps you could fix the bug in the next release of Pine. Cheers for now, Sean. -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/cvs/pd/pine/pine/ttyin.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 -r1.2 *** 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 --- 1.2 1995/08/14 05:57:29 *************** *** 1,5 **** #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 4.56 1994/10/11 22:53:43 mikes Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1,5 ---- #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 seanv Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- *************** *** 389,395 **** dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ --- 389,395 ---- dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(res < 0 && errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:37:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23898; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:37:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25239; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:34:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25233; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:34:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sht2Z-00038sC; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Message-Id: <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 01:17:06 GMT References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration isn't too seamless. The problem with seamless integration is that it causes one to loose all the benefits of having a pass phrase in the first place. Digital signatures are only meaningful if you can guarantee that the person sending the message is the person who signed it. If I have a program that automatically signs my mail, then if I leave my terminal unattended or if someone guesses my password to my account (something that is limited to 8 characters on my Unix account) then I'm hosed. All they have to do is send mail, and poof, my signature appears. That's not the functionality I'm looking for. And if it automatically decrypts items that are encrypted with my public key. That's even worse. Just my $0.02 worth. I'll now get off my soapbox. You may return to your regularily scheduled program. -Rob Lester Vecsey (vecsey@course2.harvard.edu) wrote: : So when will PINE 3.92 be released and how seamless will the PGP be : integrated into it? : -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 13 23:52:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24108; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21392; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:49:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21386; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:49:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shtGu-000390C; Sun, 13 Aug 95 23:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sean Vickery Subject: Runaway Pine bug solved, patch included Date: 14 Aug 1995 06:09:11 GMT Message-Id: <40mpa7$j8c@ngriffin.itc.gu.edu.au> [If you reply or followup to this, could you please Cc: me as I read neither pine-info nor comp.mail.pine.] Fellow Pine users, After some frustrating months of tracking down runaway Pine processes each day and killing them by hand, I decided to find and fix the cause of the problem in the Pine sources. Some debugging revealed that the hanging Pines are doing a tight loop in read_with_timeout(). The logic in this function is slightly awry; it does not cater for read(terminal) returning zero bytes. My patch is at the end of this message; it's a one-line fix. Not one Pine has run away since I patched them a week ago. Before I patched Pine, I was getting about one runaway Pine per day per machine on average. I saw the problem only with Pine 3.91. Pine 3.89, which we still use on some of our machines, has never runaway on us. Pine 3.91 was running away on both Solaris 2.3 and 2.4. If there are any Pine developers reading this, perhaps you could fix the bug in the next release of Pine. Cheers for now, Sean. -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University =================================================================== RCS file: /opt/cvs/pd/pine/pine/ttyin.c,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 retrieving revision 1.2 diff -c -r1.1.1.1 -r1.2 *** 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 --- 1.2 1995/08/14 05:57:29 *************** *** 1,5 **** #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 4.56 1994/10/11 22:53:43 mikes Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- --- 1,5 ---- #if !defined(lint) && !defined(DOS) ! static char rcsid[] = "$Id: ttyin.c,v 1.1.1.1 1995/01/13 00:16:30 seanv Exp $"; #endif /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- *************** *** 389,395 **** dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ --- 389,395 ---- dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", error_description(errno))); ! if(res < 0 && errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ -- Sean Vickery Ph: +61 (0)7 3875 6410 Systems Programmer Information Services Griffith University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 02:18:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:18:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26965; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:14:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26959; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:14:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shvXd-00039DC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 02:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vecsey@course2.harvard.edu (Lester Vecsey) Subject: pico - text tab/space cleanup Date: 14 Aug 1995 08:39:23 GMT Message-Id: <40n23r$i4j@decaxp.harvard.edu> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Is there a way to run a text tab/space cleanup operation? This function would go through and optimize the file by replacing spaces with tabs, packing them in... Also, is there an option to set the tab size when you view a document with tabs in it? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: PGP Signed with TinSign 1.1 iQCVAwUBMC8MVlMwpZR/o0fhAQFHugQAue+1LKod6wsJPnRYwepjFFFUN3QfiR3w Kl+2WlnIKwg5DsZ5xv4KJgJqLsZloXqKwC+oqzr2DoI5SbBKyAq6eJNrQpFv8brh DLB8leYsMJSxgNmKn4rqQ8Ck4Bdrus420G3DaYNDDCFGeU4hZQeUEIXYN43ukn7M 80QqJRw/YTk= =ZkH8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 05:05:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00439; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:05:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25383; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25377; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:01:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shyAk-00039GC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 04:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: srb@cuci.nl (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Pine & Procmail Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:19:57 GMT Message-Id: <40nbgt$ts1@hera.cuci.nl> References: Jeff McLellan wrote: >I've read that Procmail can be used as a delivery filter with Pine. I've >found Procmail but can do nothing with it. I have decompressed it but now >all I have is a 660KB(+/-) "Procmail" file. You probably hold in your hands now something that is commonly known as a "tar" file ("man tar" for details). >mentions the fact that Procmail can be used with Pine...but none explain >how to set it up in my UNIX home directory...basicly I have no clue on >what to do with it or how to set it up. To unpack this tar file, you could use something like: tar xvf procmail.tar Once you've done that, start reading the README and INSTALL files. -- Sincerely, srb@cuci.nl Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). E Pluribus Unix. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 05:26:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00827; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:26:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28841; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:16:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:16:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shyJv-00039HC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zxmgg01@hp17.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Giedke) Subject: Q: Auto-Reply Date: 14 Aug 1995 11:27:04 GMT Message-Id: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read my mail? Thanks for your help. Geza Giedke From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:05:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01452; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25910; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:48:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25904; Mon, 14 Aug 95 05:48:38 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA21042; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:48:33 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA27605; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:48:32 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA05928; Mon, 14 Aug 95 08:47:10 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 08:47:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Giedke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read > my mail? > No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on .... Or you could unsubscribe from the list while you are away and then set up your vacation message. Have a good vacation. Regards, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:20:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01670; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:20:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29376; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29370; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shzJa-00039QC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@ix.netcom.com Subject: Need help with PICO on a RS/6000 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:46:28 GMT Message-Id: <40ngen$k0p@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> How do I get PICO to run on a RS/6000? I have an existing unix account on a SUN machine. Do I need the source and somehow compile it on the RS/6000? Thanks. Tony ambrose@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 06:21:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01703; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:21:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26236; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26230; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:16:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0shzDI-00039NC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ambrose@ix.netcom.com Subject: ignore - test Date: 14 Aug 1995 12:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <40ng0b$la7@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ignore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 07:53:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03741; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:53:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27581; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:46:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27575; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:46:55 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 14 Aug 95 22:44:39 +0800 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 22:44:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Don Sugarman Cc: Giedke , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > > On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: > > > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell > > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read > > my mail? > > > No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file > > HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from > the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on > vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on Looking at the man page for vacation: No message is sent if the To: or the Cc: line does not list the user to whom the original message was sent or one of a number of aliases for them, if the initial From line includes the string -REQUEST@, or if a Precedence: bulk or Precedence: junk line is included in the header. On good lists, pine being one of them, your name will not appear in the To: or Cc: which should prevent vacation messages going to the list. In addition, vacation will keep track of who it sent a notification to and will not send another notification until a predetermined time interval has expired. So, it is generally safe to use vacation without unsubscribing to the many lists for which you have subscriptions. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 07:54:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03791; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:54:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27658; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:51:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27652; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si0pD-00039QC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 07:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcheney@stable.pop.upenn.edu (Timothy P. Cheney) Subject: Re: Need help with PICO on a RS/6000 Date: 14 Aug 1995 14:18:32 GMT Message-Id: <40nlvo$nas@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <40ngen$k0p@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> ambrose@ix.netcom.com wrote: : How do I get PICO to run on a RS/6000? I have an existing unix : account on a SUN machine. Do I need the source and somehow compile it : on the RS/6000? Thanks. : Tony : ambrose@ix.netcom.com Check ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu for precompiled pine/pico for AIX. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | tcheney@pop.upenn.edu | | Timothy P. Cheney (215) 898-3197 | | Population Studies Center | | 239 McNeil/6298 | | University of Pennsylvania | | Philadelphia, PA 19104 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 09:29:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08010; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:29:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29923; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:26:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29917; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:25:58 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01732; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:25:56 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id MAA23635; Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:25:54 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08190; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:24:33 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:24:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Ed Greshko Cc: Giedke , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > < S N I P > > > > > So, it is generally safe to use vacation without unsubscribing > to the many lists for which you have subscriptions. > Thanks, Ed. I've been afraid to use .vacation, since I've seen some vacation messages distributed through a couple of lists. Those vacationers must be using a substandard mailer. Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10002; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00901; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00895; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2kW-00038TC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: Auto-Reply Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:24:45 -0400 Message-Id: References: <40nbu8$fce@newsserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 14 Aug 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: | On 14 Aug 1995, Giedke wrote: | | > If I will be unable to check my email for a couple of weeks - is there a way to tell | > pine to respond to every mail I receive with a short note, saying how long I don't read | > my mail? | > | No, but you can tell Unix to do that with a .vaction file | | HOWEVER! Please don't do this, I believe every message you get from | the pine-info list will result in a message to the list that you are on | vacation, which will result in a message to the list that you are on | [...] | Or you could unsubscribe from the list while you are away and then set up | your vacation message. [...] An alternative, if it is available to you, is to use procmail. You can set up filtering recipes which will ignore any postings from mailing lists and only send a vacation message to what is left. You can fine tune it to any degree desired. If formail is also installed on your system (this assumes you are using Unix, by the way), you can even set things up so that any given sender receives only one vacation notification. However, I must admit that using procmail is not entirely trivial. This whole queston is not really a Pine question at all, but it, as well as incoming mail filtering questions, comes up so often that I think it would be helpful if a FAQ could be posted periodically to deal with them. (No, I am not in a position to write such a FAQ -- I currently have other irons in the fire.) Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10072; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03477; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03471; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2ka-00039cC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: Headers? Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:54:02 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I changed my localhost back to "localhost" on a TIA to see if I can get a message to news groups...EMail worked anyway...so if this goes through look at header. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:04:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10091; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:04:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03511; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03505; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23755; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:01:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "TEAL@netcom.com" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Most Mail Transports are smart enough to realize that your address was listed twice and only deliver one copy, so this is expected behavior... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 12 Aug 1995, TEAL@netcom.com wrote: > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 1995 02:03:03 GMT > From: TEAL@netcom.com > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Question about "Bcc" in Version 3.89 > > I recently sent an e-mail to eleven people. To avoid revealing their > addresses, I addressed the message to myself and "Bcc'ed" everyone else. > I also Bcc'ed myself, as I usually do when I send an important message. > However, I received only one message in my mailbox. I never received the > Bcc I sent myself. Shouldn't I have received two copies of the message? > Your e-mail response is appreciated. Thanks. > > --Jodi > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:05:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10184; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:05:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03485; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03479; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:00:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si2kX-00039bC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 12:27:02 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the | contents of the resulting file? | | Thanks, | Pete What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think this capability may not have been present in earlier versions of Pine. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10755; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03844; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03838; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:25 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24032; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:12:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Elizabeth Malekzadeh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs Elm In-Reply-To: <40l1v5$dr3@nyheter.chalmers.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Aug 1995, Elizabeth Malekzadeh wrote: > I've been using both for quite a while and IMHO it's much easier to use > pine. However, using elm, you can (for example) "read" MIME attachments > without down loading the stuff.. with pine you have to write it in a > file first. Hard to say which one is better... both have their positive > and negative sides! > Huh? Pine should be able to read any almost valid MIME attachment without downloading. What kind of attachments are you having trouble with? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:21:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10917; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:21:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03943; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03937; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:17:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24178; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 10:16:53 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Arthur H. Johnson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: highlight problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen this problem when the TERM environment variable was set to a broken driver on a Linux box. Changing to something else "fixed" the problem... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Arthur H. Johnson wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 11:02:23 -0400 > From: Arthur H. Johnson > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: highlight problem > > I use Pine 3.91 (or try to) with 2 different servers. The one from which > I am sending this is a freenet, and I have no problems with Pine here. > The other is a relatively new commercial server, and when I use Pine on > it everything is highlighted, and I can't tell where I am. > > The system administrator claims that the problem is at my end, but I'm > quite sure it isn't for 3 reasons. One is that Pine works great from my > other server. Two is that the problem appears on 2 different comm > programs I've tried. Three is that the same problem occurs regardless of > whether I'm using my computer at home or the one at the office. > > You may wonder why I don't just use the freenet all the time, but I get a > busy signal about 95% of the time when I try to connect. I am going to be > using e-mail for business purposes and I need to have both a reliable > connection and an e-mail program (preferably Pine) which works right. > > Please send responses by mail. I'll read them at 2 a.m. when I'm able to > connect. > > Art Johnson > afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:23:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11169; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:23:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01418; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01412; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si37p-00038TC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th (Hywel Phillips) Subject: Word-wrap!!! Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:49:08 GMT Message-Id: <40nuq4$sqm@abac.au.ac.th> My apologies for asking a question that has already been answered. My most recently received post in this group is seven days old. Thanks for your immediate help ! -- Hywel Phillips Digital Creation email: hywel@ksc.au.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11512; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04033; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04027; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:20:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si37q-00039bC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: db479394@oak.cats.ohiou.edu () Subject: Does SlipKnot work with PINE???? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 16:53:08 GMT thanks in advance! -- Darren T. Biggs----- db479394@oak.cats.ohiou There are Visions that are Dreams and Dreams that are Reality the Visionary is one who has the Dream and Achieves it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:39:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12242; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04483; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04477; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Np-00039gC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:18 GMT Message-Id: <40nu22$db@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:40:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12348; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01835; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01829; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3No-00039fC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:08 GMT Message-Id: <40nu1o$d9@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:46:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12584; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:46:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04491; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04485; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Nq-00039iC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:53 GMT Message-Id: <40nu35$dh@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 10:51:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12846; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:51:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01851; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01845; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:35:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3Nr-00039jC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@stimpy.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 16:36:58 GMT Message-Id: <40nu3a$di@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 11:02:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13164; Mon, 14 Aug 95 11:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04784; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:50:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04777; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:50:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si3c9-00039gC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 10:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank R Prina Subject: SURNAME PRINA Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:18:00 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for other family members around the world. The earliest reference I have is that my Grandfather, Ludovico, or Lodovico, PRINA was one of the sculptors who worked with Bartholdi in Paris on the Statue of Liberty and that he came to the U.S.A. 1884-1886 to assist in its erection and construction. He returned to Italy to bring his wife Angelina CRAVELLO Prina to the U.S.A. to live. I believe he was either born or at one time lived in Veglia, IT. and there is reason to believe he was also associated with Lyon, probably France. My Grandmother Angelina was born and raised in Biela, IT, 18 Km from the Great St Bernard Pass between Italy and France. If anyone named PRINA is ralated to a PRINA who worked on the Statue of Liberty we are related also. If your name is not PRINA but you know someone named PRINA, please ask if they know if any of their relatives worked with Bartholdi. I believe that fact would be of sufficient interest for families to remember and pass on to the next generation. He also had 5, 6 or 7 statues of his own work erected in Northern Italy. I have no information about my Grandmother prior to her my childhood, which would be in the early 1930's. Any help? Frank R Prina, 119 Woodward Avenue, Springville, NY, 14141, USA. frprina@buffnet.net.usa.na From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 12:50:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17847; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04636; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04630; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:45:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si5Oc-00039fC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 12:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pete HOLSBERG Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:33:42 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: > > | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet > | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the > | contents of the resulting file? > | > | Thanks, > | Pete > > What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to > Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the > 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think > this capability may not have been present in earlier > versions of Pine. 3.91 but we must be configured differently. If I reply to a mail message, it asks if there are both "From" and "Reply-To", but "help" says that it wants a legitimate e-mail address in the "To". How do you get around that?? Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 13:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20176; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:32:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08085; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08079; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00492; Mon, 14 Aug 95 13:26:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 13:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ken Manheimer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 Aug 1995 14:18:51 -0400 > From: Ken Manheimer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" > > > I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not > elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > That would be very helpful. Please send it as an attachment so we are sure to see the right bits ;) > (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another > release - any word on that?) > Pine 3.92 is coming, but we don't have a timetable for it yet... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:03:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24990; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:03:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10305; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coil-ether.nist.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10299; Mon, 14 Aug 95 14:57:24 -0700 Received: by coil.nist.gov (4.1/SMI-3.2-del.7-klm.4) id AA11061; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:57:23 EDT Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 17:57:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Manheimer Reply-To: ken.manheimer@NIST.gov To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, David L Miller wrote: > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > > I realized that, which is why i was asking for relaxation, and not > > elimination, of the constraints! If you like, i can try to create, and > > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. > > That would be very helpful. Please send it as an attachment so we are > sure to see the right bits ;) Thanks. I've tracked the offending format down - pine requires the date number on the first line of the file to occupy two spaces, even when it's a single digit date. (Most mail folder-ers pad the date with a space, but one that i used at least in 1992 did not, causing my problem.) The attachment contains an example of this. SunOS 4 bin/mail and ucb/mail, and SunOS 5 mailx, all accept it without blinking. I do recommend relaxing the pine mailbox criterion, to at least allow this variance, and even more. Personally, i expect that just requiring a leading "From " at the very beginning of the file would be sufficient to weed out the non-mail files, particularly if there actually is no formal standard for unix-mail format files - i suspect that's a commonly used criterion. > > (Also, i mentioned that i was curious about the prospects for another > > release - any word on that?) > > > > Pine 3.92 is coming, but we don't have a timetable for it yet... Cool. (I presume the export command will be getting completion, and i'd also like to suggest having the expunge-confirmation come *before* the quit confirmation, when exiting with `no-quit-without-confirm' set.) Thanks for taking a look at this. ken ken.manheimer@nist.gov, 301 975-3539 --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pinecant Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: RnJvbSBrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3YgRnJpIERlYyAyIDEzOjI0OjI0IDE5OTQNCkZy b206IE1lIDxrbG1AbmlzdC5nb3Y+DQpUbzoga2xtQGNtZS5uaXN0Lmdvdg0K U3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtVbml4IFBpbmUgMy45MV0gc2F2ZTogIlVuYWJsZSB0 byBhcHBlbmQgbWFpbCB0byBmaWxlIg0KRGF0ZTogRnJpLCAyIERlYyA5NCAx MzoyNDoyNA0KDQpQaW5lIGRvZXMgbm90IGFjY2VwdCBzaW5nbGUtZGlnaXQg ZGF0ZSBudW1iZXJzIG9uIHRoZSBpbml0aWFsIG1haWxib3gNCidGcm9tICcg bGluZSwgd2hpbGUsIGVnLCBVbml4IG1haWwgZG9lcy4NCg0Ka2VuDQo= --1900044792-1750862685-808437442=:10817-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:24:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25965; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10747; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:21:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10741; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:21:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si7oM-00039pC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pakp@nicanor.acu.edu (Peter Pak) Subject: changing inbox Date: 14 Aug 1995 20:59:29 GMT Message-Id: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> Is there a way that you can set the system mailbox so that users get their mail in their home directories? I am not talking jsut about pine (I can set that through the conf files), but also ipop and imap. I have tried setting the SYSTEM_MBOX (?) in the c-client/osdep.h file, but it does not seem to work. How do I do this? Or where do I look? I have looked through the documentation, but maybe I just missed it. TIA Peter Pak From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 15:49:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27152; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:49:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08967; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:46:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08961; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:46:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8GA-00039sC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stanley Tomshinsky Subject: INBOX Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 23:08:25 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe I should ask my netserver galactica.it, but they are on vacation. And they give Eudora to all...and I am running Amiga.......Well I left inbox-path "inbox" so as not to connect right away...since when I try {192.106.152.1}inbox I get a 192.106.152.1,143 doesn't accept the con- nection...Now I get my mail QWKed to me and that is okay for now. Galactica.it is a PC bbs and they use ms dos & windows software to give you an idea...What is the usual mail procedure SMTP which I have installed with my NNTP?...is the 143 indicating that...I also have Pop3 installed. Is my "{192.106.152.1}inbox" OK. Also Galactica connects use to SLIP via TIA...and I found out that to have NNTP work on pine, I had to keep my localhost name "localhost". And that is why I put user-domain with my email address so it would be somewhere in the header. If anyone could help me I would greatly appreciate it...Have a good summer to all............Stan user-domain : stom@galactica.it smtp-server : 192.106.152.1 nntp-server : 192.106.152.1 inbox-path : inbox incoming-folders : {192.106.152.1}inbox :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :: :: :: stom@galactica.it :: :: :: :: Stanley Tomshinsky via Fiori Chiari 20 Milano 20121 Italia :: :: :: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:01:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27771; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09240; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09234; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:24 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10925; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:58:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 15:58:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray Reply-To: Terry Gray To: Sven Guckes , stevedav@netcom.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Common mail groupware software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Steve, Sven: I don't know of any mail software that prevents replies to messages currently being viewed or replied-to, however, it is possible to quickly notify others that a message has been replied-to or deleted by using a mailbox format that permits concurrent updates of message status flags. If you combine such a mailbox format with an IMAP daemon, you can make changes in message status visible to all the concurrent users, on potentially different platforms. There is still a potential race condition where two people can begin replying to the same message nearly simultaneously, but it is still much better than having no idea what the other people are doing. Concurrent access to a mailbox by multiple users is one of the strenghths of IMAP, but you have to use a mailbox format that is amenable to this functionality. In addition, you could consider modifying an IMAP client to use IMAP message flags in a way that would simulate advisory locking for purposes of a Reply function. Either the Cyrus IMAP server from CMU or the UW IMAP server using TENEX format mailboxes will fill the bill (although the TENEX format prohibits expunging unless there is only one user, but flag --message status-- updates, e.g. Deleted or Answered, may be made by multiple users concurrently, and IMAPd will notify every user agent of any changes.) Putting the locking burden on imapd allows you to use any IMAP clients on any platforms. Alternatively, you can have everyone run Pine on a single machine and again use TENEX as the mailbox format. -teg On 11 Aug 1995, Sven Guckes wrote: > stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes: > >Can someone please direct me to MAIL or MESSAGING software > >that allows a group of people to share a single mail queue. > >I'd need simple message locking so that when one person is read/responding > >to mail, others see the lock and cannot respond to the same message. > > "Locking" is so non-trivial that I suggest to either set up a mailing list > or create a local newsgroup. You could also make the mail folder available > as a web page but then everybody *could* read it. Oh, well. > Anyway, if you're only *reading* from the same folder then there should be no > problem. YOu only need locking if new mail will be put into the folder. > > Sven > > Cc: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) > > -- > ELM - the screen oriented mail program. Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm > ELM versions: Latest release: ELM 2.4 PL24 || ELM 2.5 is still in alpha > The "ELM Pages" - all about ELM on the World Wide Web: > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/ [950801] > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27923; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11683; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11677; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8ME-00039rC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@shazam.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:03:29 GMT Message-Id: <40oh7h$997@news.iastate.edu> <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27925; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09346; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09340; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MF-00039sC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@shazam.cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:03:38 GMT Message-Id: <40oh7q$999@news.iastate.edu> <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> was cancelled from within trn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:04:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27988; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:04:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11691; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11685; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MF-00039tC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:07:17 GMT Message-Id: <40ohel$9ac@news.iastate.edu> cancel <40mkk4$acd@news.iastate.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 16:05:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28071; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09354; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09348; Mon, 14 Aug 95 16:01:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si8MG-00039uC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lark@cs.iastate.edu (Who Knows) Subject: cmsg cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Control: cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> Date: 14 Aug 1995 22:07:38 GMT Message-Id: <40ohfa$9ah@news.iastate.edu> cancel <40ml3b$bpu@news.iastate.edu> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 17:22:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01671; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:22:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13416; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:16:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13410; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:16:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0si9fH-00039vC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 17:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Posting A Mail Message Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 19:48:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | On Mon, 14 Aug 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: | | > On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Pete HOLSBERG wrote: | > | > | Is there any way in pine to post a mail message to a Usenet | > | Newsgroup rather than exporting it and then posting the | > | contents of the resulting file? | > | | > | Thanks, | > | Pete | > | > What version of Pine are you using? I post directly to | > Usenet newsgroups all the time directly from the | > 'compose' or 'reply' functions with Pine 3.91. I think | > this capability may not have been present in earlier | > versions of Pine. | | 3.91 but we must be configured differently. If I reply to a | mail message, it asks if there are both "From" and | "Reply-To", but "help" says that it wants a legitimate | e-mail address in the "To". | | How do you get around that?? | | Pete Are you trying to post to a newsgroup via email? To post directly, put the cursor anywhere in the header and press Ctrl-R, for "rich headers." That should display a field for newsgroups. Of course, the computer system you are on must be configured properly to make use of that feature. (That's a system administration function I admit I am not an expert on.) If you are replying to a newsgroup post in a newsgroup folder, Pine should ask you if you want to reply to the newsgroup. If you say that you do, it will fill in the newsgroups field for you. If you are replying to an email, rather than a newsgroup posting, maybe I'm not sure just what the problem is. Newsgroups and mailing lists are not actually the same thing. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:06:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03978; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:06:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14834; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14828; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBBR-0003A0C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: changing inbox Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:14:34 -0700 Message-Id: References: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <40odfh$sd3@nicolas.acu.edu> On 14 Aug 1995, Peter Pak wrote: > Is there a way that you can set the system mailbox so that users get their > mail in their home directories? I am not talking jsut about pine (I can > set that through the conf files), but also ipop and imap. I have tried > setting the SYSTEM_MBOX (?) in the c-client/osdep.h file, but it does not > seem to work. How do I do this? Or where do I look? I have looked > through the documentation, but maybe I just missed it. TIA Are you talking about having mail delivered to the home directory? Pine does not deliver mail. If you are talking about recognizing a file on the home directory as INBOX, modify the routine env_init() in c-client/env_unix.c -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:10:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04092; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:10:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12891; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12885; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:01:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBBQ-00039zC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [Unix Pine 3.91] save: "Unable to append mail to file" Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 18:10:23 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sun, 13 Aug 1995, Ken Manheimer wrote: > > That error message indicates that you attempted to append a message to a > > file that is not in any recognized mail box file format. The format of > > mail box files is not specified by any RFC, and more likely than not emacs > > vm has its own ideosyncratic format that is not known to Pine. > No, as i tried to say, pine accepts the majority of folder i create using > pine. However, it does not accept a few, and those few totally disrupt > my efforts to do my "foldering" from pine. Morever, those few that it > rejects are readable using, eg, Unix mail, and maybe even Pine itself! Let me try again. Internally, Pine has a series of tests in which it classifies files by what format they are. Once the file has been classified by type, operations performed on the file are handled by specific code (called "drivers") for each type. For example, there is a "get message header by message number" function, which is different for each type. One of the functions is "append additional message to this file". That error message is generated when you call the "append" function for a file of type "arbitrary text". You can do certain other things with a file of type "arbitrary text". You can open it in Pine, in which case it will appear as a single message with a pseudo-header containing the file author and create date for its "From" and "Date" headers. But you can not append to such files. > If you like, i can try to create, and > post, a small mail folder which pine rejects for foldering, but which, eg > unix mail *and* pine accept for reading as mail folders. Please do. I will be happy to analyze it. But please be sure that you are actually reading it as a mail box file, and not as an arbitrary file. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:48:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04895; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15352; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15346; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siC0c-0003A1C; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Does SlipKnot work with PINE???? Date: 15 Aug 1995 02:31:33 GMT Message-Id: <40p0u5$hl3@grape.epix.net> References: db479394@oak.cats.ohiou.edu wrote: ... Nothing, but the header was 'Does SlipKnot work with PINE????' : thanks in advance! Yes, SlipKnot works just fine with PINE ... email or post if you need any help. G'Day. /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 14 19:50:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04946; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:50:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13601; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:47:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13595; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:46:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siBwU-00039yC; Mon, 14 Aug 95 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Word-wrap? Date: 15 Aug 1995 02:25:11 GMT Message-Id: <40p0i7$hl3@grape.epix.net> References: <40mj4g$d33@abac.au.ac.th> Hywel Phillips (hywel@ksc.au.ac.th) wrote: : Does anyone know whether it is possible to change the number of : columns - some of my mails get messed up by other systems - : I'd like to get it down to around 65 or so. : Thanks for any help. OK now don't laugh, because I have read the other posts about 'alternative editors' and such, and IMHO yes pine (actually pico) doesn't support it, your terminal program might ... I'm using Windowz terminal ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... excuse me I fell asleep there for a minute ... Uuhhhh ... anyway, you can set it to word wrap outgoing text (mine is to to column 70, but the default is 79 which is NFG) ... anyway where was I ... Oh yes, Check your communications software, maybe that can do it? Hope this helps ... only my 895 cents worth (plus tax) G'Day /\ /~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 01:50:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12555; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:50:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18393; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18387; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siHdX-0003AbC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bradleb1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au (Bradley Bristow-Stagg) Subject: Securing PINE Date: 15 Aug 1995 08:23:42 GMT Message-Id: <40plie$pjq@janus.cqu.edu.au> Greetins, My name is Brad J B Bristow-Stagg and I am a sys admin at the Central Queensland University for CQ-PAN. We are thinking of using PINE as our new mail reader. Currently all users have a menu a/c (none but admin have bash a/c's). I was wondering if someone could either point me in the direction of where in the source code that I have to change so that users can't read in any other file other than the .sig specified in the .pinerc, and also if there are any other things I have to take into consideration. My thanks for your time. I would ask that all replies are send via e-mail as I don't get much time to check news. Once again my thanks.. Brad J B Bristow-Stagg CQ-PAN Systems Administrator. -- /---------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Bradley J B Bristow-Stagg | IRC/MUD : Shanor | | B. Information Technology | E-Mail : bradleb1@cq-pan.cqu.edu.au | | Central Queensland University | Or : bristowb@topaz.cqu.edu.au | \---------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 01:54:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12612; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19543; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19537; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:47:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siHdX-0003AcC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 01:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdh@worf.MR.Net (Chris D. Halverson) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 - [PGP] - When!? Date: 14 Aug 1995 10:06:15 -0500 Message-Id: References: <40eaon$8pa@decaxp.harvard.edu> <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> In-Reply-To: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu's message of 14 Aug 1995 01:17:06 >>>>> "Robert" == Robert A Pickering writes: In article <40m86i$5q1k@rose.muohio.edu> pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) writes: Robert> Well, I mentioned this before, but I hope the integration Robert> isn't too seamless. I have to agree here. I do want some sort of integration, but it _has_ to ask me my pass phrase to sign/decrypt/etc. messages. Like Robert said, if it does it all automatically, why bother using it? The key point here is integration, I don't want to have to rely on using alternative-editors to use PGP. I want it to be a keystroke (much like the ME versions of elm), but I do not want it taking any actions automatically. Just my thoughts on this... Chris -- Chris D. Halverson | Network Engineer Minnesota Regional Network | Voice: (612) 342-2838 511 11th Avenue South, Box 212 | Email: cdh@MR.Net Minneapolis, MN 55415 | WWW: http://www.MR.Net/~cdh/ PGP signed/encrypted mail accepted, finger for PGP public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 15 02:36:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13278; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:36:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18764; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:17:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.07/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18758; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:17:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0siI2n-0003AbC; Tue, 15 Aug 95 02:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff McLellan Subject: Filtering FAQ (Pine info) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 1995 04:32:57 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Following is the Filtering FAQ...which is very useful to Pine users and relevent to this group. It should be posted weekly. I'll be willing to throw it up weekly unless some subscribers to this group disagree, otherwise kill file the sucker if you don't like it. (Do a 'http://www.webcrawler.com search for Procmail and you'll find additional stuff) Here it goes: ************** Current Hypertext Version: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html _____________________________________________________ ________| |________ \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | Copyright (c) 1994, 1995 Nancy McGough and others | / / |_____________________________________________________| \ /___________) (__________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 Preliminaries 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ 0.1.1 Hypertext 0.1.2 Plain Text 0.2 Terminology 0.3 Notation 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2.1.3 Testing 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail 2.2.1 General Strategies 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Mailagent 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 3.3 How Safe Mailagent Processing Is? 3.4 Locking Under Mailagent 3.5 Folder Types Supported 3.6 Mailagent References 4.0 Filter 4.1 Setting up Filter 4.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail 4.3 Filter References 5.0 Mailer and Newsreader References 6.0 Contributors 6.1 Acknowledgements 6.2 Contributing to this FAQ 7.0 Copyright Notice ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.0 Preliminaries Q: How can I have my incoming mailing-list messages automatically put into appropriate folders? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This FAQ provides basic instructions for Unix users to set up either procmail, mailagent, or elm's filter to filter incoming mailing-list messages. If you have a choice, I recommend procmail which is powerful, robust, and is actively developed and supported. All these mail processors can also be set up to filter other types of incoming messages, send automated replies, etc. For instructions see the relevant references listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1 Getting the Latest Version of this FAQ If this FAQ is over a couple months old, there may be an updated version. Please get the latest hypertext or plain text version from one of the places listed below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.1 Hypertext The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Cello, Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, OmniWeb, SpiderWoman or WinWeb. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in the FAQ * to any Uniform Resource Locator (URL) in the FAQ * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.1.2 Plain Text The plain text version is regularly posted to comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.pine, comp.answers, and news.answers. It's in digest format which means that you may be able to use your newsreader to easily move between digest items (e.g., nn uses G% to burst a digest and trn uses ^G to jump to the next digest item). The FAQ is also available through: Anonymous FTP: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Hard Copy: A printed version of this FAQ is in Chapter 25 of the book "Internet Secrets" by John R. Levine and Carol Baroudi; published 1995 by IDG Books; ISBN 1-56884-452-2. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.2 Terminology Term Meaning ==== ======= mailer or MUA Mail user agent such as pine or elm pico PIne COmposer - a user friendly editor reader Mailer, newsreader, or Web browser that can read mail folders regular expression Text that can include "wild cards" (such as . to match any single character); used for searching ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ or $HOME Your home directory. You can always get to your home directory by typing `cd'. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:00:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 0.3 Notation Notation Meaning ======== ======= TextName placeholder; replace with appropriate text placeholder; replace with appropriate text without the angle brackets `text' text you type but without the quotes "text" text you type including the double quotes 'text' text you type including the single quotes [Key] press the key, e.g., [Space], [Enter], or [Tab] ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.0 Mail Folder Strategies It is a good idea to come up with a system for naming and reading your mail folders. With a good system, you will have an easier time managing the hundreds (or thousands!) of messages you will receive. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.1 Naming Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with `IN'. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. This way when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders! ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:01:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 1.2 Reading Incoming Mail Folders Here are some instructions for opening a mail folder that's in the default folder directory for some mailers and newsreaders. Default Folder Reader Directory Command line command From within reader ====== ============== ==================== ================== elm ~/Mail elm -f =folder c =folder pine ~/mail pine -if folder G folder mail ~/mail mail -f /path/folder nn ~/News nn +folder G +folder (Please send me information for other mailers and newsreaders.) Pine has an incoming-folder variable which you can use to list your incoming folders in a separate section of your folder list (to view your folder list in Pine, type `L'). Setting this variable also allows you to use the Tab key to step through all new messages in all your incoming folders. For more information see the question "How can I filter messages into different incoming folders?" in the Pine FAQ: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/usage.html#filter IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you are going to be editing your incoming mail folder, e.g., deleting messages, then your filtering program and your folder reader should use locking schemes that work together. Otherwise, if mail is delivered at the same time that you are deleting a message your folder may be corrupted. To learn more about locking see the question "What is folder locking and how does it work?" in the Pine FAQ. This is useful to read even if you don't use Pine as your mailer. http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/errors.html#locking Most mailers, such as pine and elm, use lock a file named `folder.lock' to lock the folder named `folder'. Note that nn does not lock folders so you probably don't want to use nn to delete messages in a folder that is receiving incoming messages. (Please send me info about locking in other mailers and newsreaders.) For more information about specific mailers and newsreaders, see the relevant documentation, such as man pages and Web pages. Some pointers to documentation are listed in section 5.0. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:00 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. To find out how to process an existing mail folder see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:10 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1 Setting Up Procmail To set up and test procmail, follow the ten steps given in sections 2.1.1 through 2.1.4 below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:11 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.1 Is Procmail on Your System? 1] To find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is, type one of the following commands: Shell Command ===== ======= csh which procmail sh or ksh type procmail various whereis procmail various where procmail Make a note of the full path to procmail because this is needed in step 5b below. You can find out the version by typing: procmail -v The latest released version, as of 15 April 1995, is 3.10. Version 3.11 should be out soon. If your system doesn't have procmail or doesn't have the latest version, you may want to ask your system administrator to install it. The procmail package of tools is at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like mailagent (described in section 3 of this FAQ) or filter (described in section 4). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:12 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.2 Setting Up Procmail for Testing 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. cd pico .procmailrc NOTE: Throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace `pico' with your editor. 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace `mail' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd .procmail pico rc.testing 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.testing: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in 2.3 "Explanation of Test Recipe." 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace `nancym' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use ~ or environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] On many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:13 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.3 Testing 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with `test' in the subject and one without `test' in the subject. 7] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with `test' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without `test' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were not delivered correctly, see section 2.2 on "Troubleshooting Procmail" section below. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:14 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.1.4 Setting Up Procmail to Filter Mailing List Messages 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.maillists for filtering incoming mailing-list messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.maillists 8b] In rc.maillists, create a recipe, like the two example recipes below, for each of your mailing lists. :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists. The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk IMPORTANT NOTES =============== * ^TO is not a normal regular expression; it is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. For details, see the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man pages. * Do not put a space between the caret (^) and the word `TO' in `^TO'. * Do not put a space between the `^TO' and the text that you are matching on; it must be `^TOtext'. * Both letters in `TO' must be capitalized. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.testing line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.maillists NOTE: Leaving the rc.testing line in your .procmailrc file is useful for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:20 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2 Troubleshooting Procmail If messages are not delivered correctly, here are steps you can use to try to solve the problem. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:21 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.2.1 General Strategies 1] Look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. 2] Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.testing 3] Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c in "Setting up Procmail for Testing" above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x are each acceptable.) 4] If the above three steps do not locate the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on Test procmail by following steps 6 and 7 again. Look at your $LOGFILE (which will contain verbose messages) to see if you can now determine what the problem is. If you are still having problems see the next section on "Alternate .forward Files." After you get procmail to work, you probably will want to set VERBOSE back to off. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:22 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: 2.2.2 Alternate .forward files If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. NOTE ==== If your system uses procmail as its local delivery agent, you do not need a .forward file; simply having a .procmailrc files suffices. To find out if procmail is the local delivery agent, ask your system administrator. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:30 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe you used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject:.*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:40 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.4 Tracking Your Incoming Mail You can use mailstat, a useful script that is part of the procmail package, to check your procmail log file. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either `which mailstat' or `type mailstat'. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. The script is located with all the other procmail tools (see 2.1.1 above for the ftp location). ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:02:50 GMT From: FAQ Editor Subject: 2.5 Procmail References Man Pages: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:00 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.0 Mailagent Mailagent is a powerful mail processing package that can be used to process your mail messages, either at arrival time via a .forward hook or later on while they are already saved in a mail folder. Mailagent is written in Perl and hence has all the advantages of being interpreted, i.e. it is easy to enhance dynamically and to customize. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up mailagent to process incoming mail messages from within a .forward. To find out about the more advanced features of mailagent, please refer to the mailagent(1) manual page. ------------------------------ Date: 18 Apr 1995 00:03:10 GMT From: Raphael Manfredi Subject: 3.1 Setting Up Mailagent 1] First, make sure mailagent is available on your system. The easiest way to do this is to run: mailagent -V which will print the mailagent version if it is available, or the shell will issue an error message "mailagent: not found" or something like it. 2a] Now you need to understand the MTA (Mail Transport Agent, the program that delivers the mail; usually, sendmail) will NOT deliver to mailagent directly, rather to an intermediate (small) filter program. Two versions are available: shell or C -- refer to the mailagent(1) manpage to choose, but I recommend you use the C version first, and move to the shell version if you can't run a binary from your .forward file. 2b] Locate the filter program (it will be filter or filter.sh depending on whether you choose the C or the shell version respectively) under some directory like /usr/local/lib/mailagent. From now on, we'll assume we use the C filter and that it is located under /usr/local/lib/mailagent. 3] Copy the file /usr/local/lib/mailagent/mailagent.cf as ~/.mailagent and edit it to configure your system correctly. You will see two distinct sections in that file and you need to set-up properly the first one, the "Configuration section". If you have a version of mailagent that is recent enough (at leas