From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 06:09:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11869; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:09:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18386; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18380; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS2DT-00038OC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afr@aifbalpha (Andreas Frick) Subject: netscape and pine mailcaps file Date: 1 Jul 1995 12:00:56 GMT Message-Id: <3t3ddo$k60@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: hello everyone! Just switched from elm to pine because of its mime capabilities I encountered a problem with netscape. I configured netscape to use the pine mailcaps file but netscape geves me the following error message: Ignoring unsupported format code in mailcap file: %{ and this five times. Has anyone a solution? Best regards Andreas -- Andreas Frick | University of Karlsruhe Research Assistant | AIFB E-mail: afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de | D-76128 Karlsruhe Phone: ++49-721-608-4751 | Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 06:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12261; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24553; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:36:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24547; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:36:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS2YI-00038OC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 06:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca (Steve Frampton) Subject: Question in Pine. Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:54:49 GMT Message-Id: <3t2kfu$k72@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I am posting this message on behalf of a friend. Please reply directly to him at s832816@aix2.uottawa.ca (the default if you "reply" to this message). He was wondering if there was any way to request receipt notification and/or read notification when sending a mail message using Pine. I have looked on my Pine but wasn't able to figure out how to do so (it doesn't seem to be in the rich headers). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. --< MAKE MONEY FAST!!! Contact Dave Rhodes for details. >-- Steve Frampton E-mail: <3srf@qlink.queensu.ca> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 09:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14615; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20525; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:05:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20519; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:05:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS4z0-00038TC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 09:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 1 Jul 1995 15:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <3t3r75$mki@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: James Poulakos (poulj000@orville.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: % I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is % "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was % in the middle of a huge letter! % When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume % or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't % find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... Don't you hate when that happens? The first time that happened to me I had to kill the process. I have since figured out how to get back in. When you type ctrl-Z it prints a message telling you how to get back in. Stopped. Type 'fg' to restart PINE. Try it and see if it works for you Later, Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 13:49:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19638; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:49:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28709; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:43:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28703; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:43:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sS9ID-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 13:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: IMAP and Timeout Date: 1 Jul 1995 20:25:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t4avu$q7f@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there an Timeout interval set for IMAP? If you are trying to retrieve mail from another system via IMAP, and if the system is either down or network not responding then you are hosed. Pine will keep on trying to make an IMAP connection and goes into an endless loop. Shouldn't 1 min. or so be set as Timeout period for this? __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 18:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24020; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01621; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01615; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSE6d-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) Subject: Re: Howto remove quotes from username Date: 29 Jun 1995 22:38:11 -0000 Message-Id: <3sva0j$9bf@stingray.net> References: <3sqd8q$s1@stingray.net> Status: O X-Status: H. Cheung (cheung@homer.u.washington.edu) wrote: : Well, seems like whenever you have a non-letter character, PINE will put : the whole thing in quotes, and that's why you got the quotes ... Yup, that's it all right, thanks for the advice!!! -- Internet: cummings@stingray.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 19:10:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24253; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:10:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28001; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27995; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:06:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSEOE-00038QC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: job@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Jockel Both) Subject: automatic bouncing with pine? Date: 22 Jun 1995 09:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3sbecn$dcv@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Status: O X-Status: Hello, is there anybody who knows about the possibility of automatic mail bouncing, may be triggered by a special dot-file. an example should explain what I mean: if someone is on vacation and leaves his machine running, the mailer should be able to send the mails back to the sender with a short reply why the mail was sent back. I know that this is possible on sgi's, but I don't know how to enable this behaviour. So while I'm writing, I am not very shure, if this question belongs realy into the pine group. But perhaps somebody of you know an answer. thanks btw: I'm working on a Linux box... -- Jockel Both email: Jockel.Both@linpc9.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 20:33:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25434; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:33:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02551; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02545; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:29:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSFbg-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shade@neato.org (Shane DeRidder) Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 1 Jul 1995 22:21:55 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3ss90j$k4u@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Jun 1995, movable articles wrote: # John Marken (jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca) wrote: # : How would you change your name that is shown in the newsgroups. Do you do # : it through Pine? # # I asked the same question of my server, InterAccess in Illinois, and was # told that they had to do it. It took them less than ten minutes and I # was up and running with a new name. Some Windows based programs have # their own profile files so you still have to make changes in them, if you # use any. You can do it in your .pinerc by changing the personal-name= field to whatever name you wish to use. Shane- btw, i'm a former Interaccess user, and have used it there as well...they don't have to do a thing. -- .---. . \___ |-. ,-. ,-. ,-. Shane DeRidder - shade@neato.org \ | | ,-| | | |-' Undernet IRC #TheCafe - http://neato.org/~connie/ `---' ' ' `-^ ' ' `-' Coming Soon! - NeatoMUSH - Mail me for details.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 21:18:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26110; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:18:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29510; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:14:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29504; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:14:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSGLg-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 2 Jul 1995 04:05:45 GMT Message-Id: <3t55up$rt@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3ss90j$k4u@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: shade@neato.org (Shane DeRidder) writes: >You can do it in your .pinerc by changing the personal-name= field to >whatever name you wish to use. On many systems, you can change it by using the `chfn' command. This will change your full name in /etc/passwd, in your finger info, and in lots of apps, including Pine. -nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 1 21:29:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26308; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:29:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03108; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:25:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03102; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSGUL-00038UC; Sat, 1 Jul 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guy Schlosser Subject: pcpine for DOS Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 00:09:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm having a major problem. I'm trying to install PcPine version 3.91 for DOS and with a SLIP connection to an internet provider which is called Cris (concentric research information service). The problem exists when I go to specify my inbox path. Cris uses a pop3 mail server, so I specify my path like this: {pop3.cris.com}inbox. When I do this, the system comes back and says Host not found. I know the domain name server is specified and works properly, because I have no problem with any of my other slip programs. At the end of this post, I will include the text in my wattcp.cfg file so whoever reads this can confirm that I'm set up properly. Is there a difference between a pop3 and imap server? If so, what do I need to do to set up pine since I don't know the imap address or if we have one for that matter? Anyone's help would be welcome. Thanks in advance Guy P.S. Here's the text of my wattcp.cfg file. my_ip=192.0.2.1 gateway=199.3.12.1 netmask=255.255.255.0 nameserver=199.3.12.2 nameserver=199.3.12.3 domainslist="cris.com" Jackie's in the elevator Lingerie second floor, she said can I see you later, and love ya just a little more From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 07:47:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07014; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07261; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07255; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:42:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSQ7W-00038ZC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 2 Jul 1995 09:35:15 -0500 Message-Id: <9507021445.AA07167@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Paul O Bartlett write: |> On 30 Jun 1995, James Poulakos wrote: |> > I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is |> > "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was |> > in the middle of a huge letter! |> > |> From the prompt, type "fg" (no quotation marks) to put the stopped |> process, in this case Pine, back in the "foreground." I actually use |> this feeature frequently and deliberately when I want to exit momentarily If you can't do the above (as it happens to me because I run pine in a separate window with no shell in it), or anyhow, you can do the following from another window : kill -CONT pinepid where you get pinepid from ps. This sends a "continue" signal and is equivalent to the "fg" command (also is not confused by other jobs running if any) -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 10:18:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09489; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:18:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10341; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10335; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:12:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSSTe-00038aC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roger Dietz Subject: PGP with Pine? Date: 2 Jul 1995 17:01:41 GMT Message-Id: <3t6jdl$i04@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know of a way to add PGP as a feature to Pine so you don't have to edit your email off line then reading them into Pine? I looked through the pinerc file and the on-line docs and didn't find any help. -- ******************************************************************** * Necessity is the excuse for every infringement of human freedom. * * It is the argument of the TYRANT, and the creed of the slave. * * * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 10:49:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:49:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10687; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10678; Sun, 2 Jul 95 10:45:36 -0700 Received: by rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA91145; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:09 +0400 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 20:45:09 +0400 (MEDT) From: pinar@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr.pinar@ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: hello! I am a medical doctor from turkey and looking for someone who may help me to understand how to reach the medline (medical network) of Washington University or any other one via internet system From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:03:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14729; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:03:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13141; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:58:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13135; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:58:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSXlG-00038WC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: 2 Jul 1995 22:37:28 GMT Message-Id: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3suogl$mag@newstand.syr.edu> Status: O X-Status: jmwobus@spider.syr.edu (John M. Wobus) writes: >I've decided to try building a little matrix showing which of the >well-known e-mail packages support which Internet protocols. I think >posting such a matrix around the net every once and a while would be >fun. Any info would be appreciated. This is a great idea. I agree with the poster who suggested that you include other protocols such as IMSP, X.500, Kerberos, and NNTP. Here's some info about PC Pine for DOS, Windows, and Unix. I'm also sending this to comp.mail.pine so folks over there can add other Pine info. It would be great if you put this on the net somewhere (http or ftp) so I can add it to my Web pages. >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Matrix of Popular Mail Systems w/ Internet-oriented features > > > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME >------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:12:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14877; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:12:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13272; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:07:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quord.agric.NSW.GOV.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13262; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:07:32 -0700 Received: from wagsun.agnet (wagsun.agric.NSW.GOV.AU) by quord.agric.nsw.gov.au (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11347; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:08:35 EST Received: by wagsun.agnet (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25366; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:06:55 EST Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 09:06:55 +1000 (EST) From: David Luckett X-Sender: lucketd@wagsun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9506280343.AA12624@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: subscribe pine-info David Luckett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 16:34:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15296; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13981; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:30:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13975; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:30:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSYPn-00038XC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 16:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 2 Jul 1995 03:03:50 GMT Message-Id: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be necessary. Also is there a way to tell Pine that the delete key is not the same as the backspace key. In all my other programs the delete key deletes the character under the cursor. In Pine (and Pico) it does the same thing as the backspace key and I keep deleting the wrong character. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 18:47:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17283; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:47:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15106; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:41:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15100; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:41:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSaNN-00038VC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: Sun, 02 Jul 1995 21:26:29 EDT Message-Id: <27100@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> References: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> In-Reply-To: your message of Sun Jul 02 22:37:28 1995 Status: O X-Status: # > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME # >------------------------------------------------------------------ # PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes # PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes # Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes # # Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? # I don't know the DOS/Windows versions, but, Unix version of pine already supports POP3 although 3.91 distribution has a bug there which renders it useless. I think, you have to take the last IMAP distribution from pine.cac.washington.edu and replace the one that comes with the pine distribution with it. Selcuk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Selcuk Ozturk Economics Department e-mail: seost2+@pitt.edu University Of Pittsburgh http://ftp.econ.pitt.edu/selcuk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 22:56:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21644; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:56:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17580; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:42:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17574; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:42:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSe8W-00038cC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tbe4050@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (David Pierce) Subject: NEED SEVERAL QUESTIONS ANSWERED Date: 2 Jul 1995 20:32:54 GMT Message-Id: <3t6vpm$jvv@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, my name is Dave first of all. Our server uses PINE as an email program, and I have a few questions about it. If anyone can answer any of these questions, email me directly. Please don't post the answers here! (unless you send them to me also) First, how does one attach files to email? How does one get an attached file to one's own computer? How do I download messages to my own computer? If anyone can help me out, I would appreciate it greatly! :) Dave :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 2 23:21:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22044; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:21:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18494; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18488; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:15:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSekM-00038fC; Sun, 2 Jul 95 23:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Where can I get a manual? Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 19:32:01 GMT Message-Id: <6zvitl2cpa.fsf@ceslab01.math.utah.edu> References: <3snqpk$1ilf@admaix.sunydutchess.edu> In-Reply-To: derby@admaix.sunydutchess.edu's message of 27 Jun 1995 02: 35:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have written some guides to pine. Look at: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations or ftp://ftp.east-slc.edu/calfeld -- - Chris Alfeld - calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east-slc.edu - - Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld - - PGP Key available via finger: calfeld@east-slc.edu - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:36:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23344; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:36:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18546; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:31:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18540; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:30:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSfuD-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:19:58 GMT Message-Id: <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> korenman@umbc.edu (Joan Korenman) writes: >In article , >Zoli Fekete, keeper of hungarian-faq wrote: >> ... it really doesn't make much sense to have superflous >>'Reply-to:' identical to the 'From:' address... >need are 50 "please send me your file" messages). If in fact Pine doesn't >permit the Reply-to address to be the same as the From address, I think >that's an error that should be corrected in the next version. (This may Having Reply-To: be the same as From: is hardly superfluous or unusual, but I haven't had any problem doing it, either. Is the comparison case-sensitive? I capitalize my site name in my reply-to:, so maybe that confuses the checking routine and lets me put the header the way it belongs? Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:53:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23736; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:53:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18735; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18729; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSg8D-00038sC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Header editing problem? Adding occasional header? Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:39:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t86rm$14b@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: (Sorry if this is in the FAQ, but I didn't find an answer there.) Is there a good way to get pine to let me sometimes add a Return-Receipt-To: header to mail? I don't want it on there all the time, so I can't put it in as a customized header. If I put it on my standard headers list, with no value set, it doesn't show up to be edited. How can I simply edit the headers directly, like I can in elm or nn or most other apps I use? -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 00:54:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23778; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:54:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19561; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:45:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSg5R-00038rC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 07:34:14 GMT Message-Id: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm a long-time news and email user recently forced to use pine on one site instead of more traditional mailers like Mail and elm. Some of pine's idiosyncacracies are really getting on my nerves. Any help would be greatly appreciated. In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. News readers mostly work the same way, too. With pine, I can't figure out how to do this: it keeps wanting to put my .signature *before* the forwarded text, which is obviously wrong and can occasionally cause problems, e.g. when my sig-dashes trigger a long-.sig filter and most of the message is cut off as being an excessively-long .signature file. Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? While I'm at it, is it possible to have pine insert my sig-dashes so I don't have to have one .sig file for pine and another one for the rest of the applications in the world? (Other apps have this as a configurable option, but the defualt is usually for the mailer/newsreader to insert the dashes above the contents of the .signature file. Now I have to have a .signature for normal apps and a .sig-with-dashes for pine.) -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 01:04:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24036; Mon, 3 Jul 95 01:04:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19741; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19735; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:59:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSgM8-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dubois@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Paul DuBois) Subject: Compiling 3.91 under Solaris 2.4 Date: 3 Jul 1995 02:46:06 -0500 Message-Id: <3t877uINNfrc@uakari.primate.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: There've been a couple of request about how to compile pine 3.91 under Solaris 2.4. I just tried it, since I'm upgrading a SPARC II from SunOS 4.1.1B (yes, you read that right). I didn't use gcc, I used Sun's compiler. Given that, only minor changes are necessary to make the distribution compile: In the pine directory, add -DANSI to CFLAGS in makefile.sol: *** makefile.sol.orig Wed Oct 5 01:14:50 1994 --- makefile.sol Mon Jul 3 02:17:06 1995 *************** *** 70,74 **** # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, --- 70,74 ---- # Use these for the Solaris C compiler ! CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -DANSI # LDCC= /usr/bin/cc # If you don't have /usr/bin/cc (our Solaris 2.2 doesn't seem to have it, In pine/osdep, diddle a couple #defines in os-sv4.h: *** os-sv4.h.orig Mon Oct 10 17:30:01 1994 --- os-sv4.h Mon Jul 3 02:22:18 1995 *************** *** 186,192 **** /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ ! /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ ! #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ --- 186,192 ---- /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ ! #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ ! /* #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ /*------ If our compiler doesn't understand type void ------------------*/ I still got a zillion compiler warnings, but "build sol" at least generated runnable executables, and they seem to work. (pico and pine, at least, I didn't try anything else.) Hope this helps someone. -- Paul DuBois dubois@primate.wisc.edu http://www.primate.wisc.edu/homepage/dubois From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 03:34:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27231; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20388; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:29:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20382; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:29:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSiYY-00038cC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 03:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurtta@dionysos.fmi.fi (Kari E. Hurtta) Subject: Re: loooong address headers Date: 3 Jul 1995 09:53:34 GMT Message-Id: <3t8emu$a60@kronos.fmi.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: Article of Jackie Robbins Status: O X-Status: Jackie Robbins writes: »Had a student ask me a question on pine today. The secretary of a »student activity group sends meeting notices with Pine 3.91. She uses »the address book feature to define a group with the addresses »of 200+ members. What she would like to know is if there is anyway to »suppress the printing of all 200+ address in the header of the mail »message. A receiver of the message may have to scroll thru 200 lines of »mail addresses just to read a one line message, "meeting at 8". I'm »cross-posting to comp.mail.sendmail since this may be a sendmail issue. »(We are running sendmail version 5.64 which came with our RS/6000.) She can ask her Postmaster to add that list of 200+ address to sendmail's aliases database (to as on alias). Her Postmaster can put this alias to include addresses from file in her home directory. In that way she don't need Postmaster's help when that address list changes. (I'm assuming that her Postmaster knows hwat to do.) [ Comment cc'ed to questioner. ] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:03:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08729; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:03:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25476; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [204.171.110.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25470; Mon, 3 Jul 95 09:52:56 -0700 Received: from der003.pader.gov by gatekeeper.pader.gov; (5.65/1.1.8.2/14Sep94-0947PM) id AA20052; Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:53:08 -0400 Received: from DEP.STATE.PA.US by DEP.STATE.PA.US (PMDF V5.0-3 #8726) id <01HSFN3A3XZ48ZF760@DEP.STATE.PA.US> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 03 Jul 1995 12:53:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 03 Jul 1995 12:53:41 -0500 (EST) From: AVERBUKH@dep.state.pa.us Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HSFN3A5THU8ZF760@DEP.STATE.PA.US> X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: subscribe help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:34:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09958; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:34:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28712; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:26:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28706; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:26:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSp67-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:10:06 GMT Message-Id: <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: In Paul O Bartlett writes: > My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. >> In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a >> piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with >> my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] >> >> Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? > In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine >allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and >then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." I'm using 3.91, and checking the signature-at-bottom option does not put my .signature below forwarded mail. The .signature still appears before the forwarded mail. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Does anyone know why pine defaults to this odd configuration in the first place, instead of putting my .signature at the bottom of my mail? -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:49:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10659; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:49:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26498; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26492; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpM4-00038iC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: 3 Jul 1995 17:27:23 GMT Message-Id: <3t999r$9vu@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: In <3t989e$9k1@news1.wolfe.net> josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) writes: >In Paul O Bartlett writes: >> My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. >>> In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a >>> piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with >>> my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] >> In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine >>allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and >>then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." >I'm using 3.91, and checking the signature-at-bottom option does >not put my .signature below forwarded mail. The .signature still >appears before the forwarded mail. An emailed response gives me one workaround: pine will format the forwarded mail properly if I use Reply then change the To: header after I'm done editing the message. Not elegant, but at least it works. Still hoping this is a configurable option..... -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:51:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10713; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:51:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29106; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29100; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:42:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpOl-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Forward & .signature location? Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:36:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t86hn$140@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: My remarks apply to Pine 3.91. On 3 Jul 1995, Joshua_Putnam wrote (excerpted): > In every standard mail application I've ever used, forwarding a > piece of mail gives me the original mail as included text, with > my .signature on the bottom, where it belongs. [...] > > Is it possible to configure pine to forward mail normally? In this case, what is "normal" is a matter of interpretation, as Pine allows you to do it both ways. From the Main Menu, go into Setup and then Config. Scroll down some, and check the box "signature-at-bottom." > While I'm at it, is it possible to have pine insert my sig-dashes > so I don't have to have one .sig file for pine and another one > for the rest of the applications in the world? [...] This I doubt. I, for one, would not want it. As a general remark, I doubt that Pine is all things to all people, or even intended to be. It suits my needs just fine, particularly because it does have a fairly generous selection of "power user" features (such as using a different editor) which one may turn on or off at will. I've been using Pine 3.91 under Unix daily for about six months now, and every now and then I still discover a new capability. When I first started using it, I thought it was kind of boneheaded, but I have found I can do a lot more with it than I originally thought, epsecially because there are some interfaces one can exploit, particularly under Unix. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 10:59:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10940; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:59:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26711; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:53:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26705; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:53:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSpXG-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 10:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 12:27:41 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jul 1995, Joshua_Putnam wrote (excerpted): > Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in > my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I > wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! Have you tried actually putting in a customized header (Return-Receipt-To:) with no value? I haven't needed to do so myself, but I would think it should work, at least in Pine 3.91. Normally, if there is no value assigned to the header, Pine would ignore it for outgoing mail and news. When you want to include it, just go into the header, press Ctrl-R for Rich Headers, and put in the address before you send. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 13:02:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15500; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:02:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01764; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:57:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01758; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:57:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSrXv-00038gC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: customized-hdrs, the real story! Date: 3 Jul 1995 19:32:50 GMT Message-Id: <3t9gl2$co6@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3slbdg$l42@umbc7.umbc.edu> <3t85mv$t4@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) writes: >Now if only I could get a Return-Receipt-To: header to show up in >my default headers, with no value, so that I could add one when I >wanted to see where some peice of mail is going astray! Try editing your default-composer-hdrs variable. -Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 13:23:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16797; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:23:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02454; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:17:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02442; Mon, 3 Jul 95 13:17:51 -0700 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA20227; Sun, 2 Jul 1995 21:31:30 +0500 Date: Sun, 2 Jul 1995 21:31:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? In-Reply-To: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 0 Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. It would help to know what platform Pine is running on (UNIX? DOS?) and how you're accessing it (dial-up?), but I'll guess it's on a UNIX box and you're accessing it by dialing into a shell account. I do ASCII uploads into Pine fairly often and don't have that problem. I suspect it is your telecomm software, not Pine, that is to blame. Some telecomm software ignores lines containing only a CR during an ASCII dump. In some telecomm software this is configurable, so check that first. If that doesn't work, the trick is to make your "blank" lines actually non-blank. Put a space character or two on each blank line. This will still appear to be a blank line to the reader, but your computer will treat it as a non-blank line. Most telecomm software will send such lines unmodified. If that doesn't work, then put an unobtrusive character (like a period) on each "blank" line. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 17:09:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24964; Mon, 3 Jul 95 17:09:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03413; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:57:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03407; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:57:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sSvLr-00038hC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: E-mail client dos and don'ts Date: Mon, 3 Jul 1995 15:24:56 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3suogl$mag@newstand.syr.edu> <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3t7738$jrj@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > >----------------------------------------------------------------- > >Matrix of Popular Mail Systems w/ Internet-oriented features > > > > > > POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > PC Pine for DOS no no yes not yet yes > PC Pine for Windows no no yes not yet yes > Unix Pine no no yes not yet yes > > > Does anyone know if Pine has plans to support POP in the future? POP3 support (using it as if it was IMAP) is in 3.91, but has known bugs which make it less than completely useful. This bug is fixed in the IMAP 3.6 toolkit which is used in 3.92. This POP3 support is not turned on for DOS. For 3.92 (not yet released), and for 3.91 if you substitute the IMAP 3.6 toolkit, the matrix is: POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME ------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no not yet yes not yet yes PC Pine for Windows no not yet yes not yet yes Unix Pine no yes yes not yet yes Versions after 3.92 are expected to use the IMAP 4.0 toolkit, which has POP3 code that works on DOS. For these versions, the matrix will be: POP2 POP3 IMAP2 IMAP4 MIME ------------------------------------------------------------------ PC Pine for DOS no yes yes yes yes PC Pine for Windows no yes yes yes yes Unix Pine no yes yes yes yes I can not speculate at the present time when we will have "native" POP3 support (that is, using POP3 as an offline client rather than as a dysfunctional IMAP), but this is expected to be sooner rather than later. It would be fairly simple to add POP2 support, but nobody has asked for it and the concensus in the POP community is that POP2 is dead. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 3 22:05:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01473; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:05:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11305; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:01:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11299; Mon, 3 Jul 95 22:01:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT02C-00038hC; Mon, 3 Jul 95 21:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) Subject: Is there a 'kill' command in pine's netnews ? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 04:27:20 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ Susan Feingold D.Sc. ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il Taub Computer Center phone 972-4-294997 Technion, Israel Institute of Technology fax 972-4-236212 Haifa, Israel 32000 - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ - ~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 00:43:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04433; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:43:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08698; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08692; Tue, 4 Jul 95 00:36:33 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id KAA29649; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:16:36 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA08791; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:08:00 GMT Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 10:07:46 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mark Crispin Subject: A mysterious problem with PINE 3.91 !!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have this mysterious problem with PINE 3.91, I am the system administrator at my company, and some times when I am checking the system processes I find some running with no NAME, I go to the owner of the process to check it up I find out he is running PINE !! What should I do about that ? Thanks Al Khamis Galtronics LTD. Israel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 04:34:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09584; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:34:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16217; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:27:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16211; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:27:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT64V-00038mC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 04:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simone@crash.cts.com (Simone Shoemaker) Subject: signature problems - please help Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 05:29:51 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I finally got myself a signature file edited, and when I send mail to someone, it also appends correctly. But it never shows up when I post something in a newsgroup. What would I have to do, to have the signature appended when I post articles? Please e-mail, if you can help. Also, please explain in very simple terms. I'm not particularily computer literate. Thanks!! Simone From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 05:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11036; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11761; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:29:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11755; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:29:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sT750-00038lC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 05:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alberto Torraca Subject: Pine access error Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:19:24 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: While attempting to delete old messages from inbox...an access mailbox violation error is flashed accross the screen. After I exit pine and execute the program again, I find that the amount of messages I intended to delete duplicate themselve...so of like critters...has anybody encounter this problem. This has been an intermittent problem, hard to trace. We have two servers running linux. Our mail server takes care of all inbox/incomming mail...our second server allows users to log in and access their nfs'ed mailbox...any ideas...Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 10:58:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16409; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:58:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20839; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20833; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:48:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTBwv-00038oC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 10:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) Subject: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 15:59:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been reported a couple of problems by pine users on AIX 3.2 (we are using several different architectures at this site and this looks specific to the AIX version). I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. Both problems seem to be related with pico, as they happened when composing a message: - A pine with no terminal attached (!) was found consuming all available CPU. The stack trace was inside pico. - In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch CH-1211 Geneve 23 | -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 12:24:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18053; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:24:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15918; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15912; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:14:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTDPl-00038IC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) Subject: fax software and Pine Date: 4 Jul 1995 16:13:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tbpc6$obk@seymour.sfu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Greetings: Has any one any experience with using fax software like 'visifax' and Pine. I would like to hear from anyone who uses fax software and if they somehow integrate it with pine or just run the fax software standalone. Thanks Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 14:08:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20562; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:08:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23570; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:00:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23564; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:00:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTF3K-00038LC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nstn1421@fox.nstn.ca (nstn1421) Subject: French version of pine? Date: 4 Jul 1995 17:49:30 -0300 Message-Id: <3tc9gq$rmj@Owl.nstn.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know if there is a French version of pine? And if so where would one get its source? Rick Berger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 15:07:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21485; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:07:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17723; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17717; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:57:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTFvc-00038LC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 14:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dhollis@clark.net (Miracle Man) Subject: Mouse in PC-Pine 3.91 Date: 4 Jul 1995 17:32:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tbtvc$ag9@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Anyone ever notice that in PCPine for Windows, you can select messages from the index listing with the mouse, but you can't select folders from the folder list? Also, is there anyway to keep addressbooks and signatures on the UNIX host? Everything else seems to be able to, but not those (this causes some headaches for users migrating to PCPine). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 15:38:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22023; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:38:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24707; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24701; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:30:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTGTF-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: how do I change the user name? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the same account. I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the username. Thanks, Paul. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 18:44:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25237; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20026; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20020; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTJMp-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: POP & pine?? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:19:48 GMT Message-Id: <3tceq4$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I heard that pine 3.91 works with POP? Is that true? If so, how do I set it up? Thanks, Paul Dowman. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 19:06:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25715; Tue, 4 Jul 95 19:06:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27366; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:58:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27360; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:58:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTJdJ-00038CC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Owlman Subject: Blinking Subject Line Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 21:41:05 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't understand how they do it. Thanks for any help or replies in advance. WC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 4 21:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27897; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21536; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:13:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21530; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:13:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTLlh-00038EC; Tue, 4 Jul 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lpat@unixg.ubc.ca (Lois Patterson) Subject: Directing Incoming Mail and Stripping Headers Date: 4 Jul 1995 21:02:23 -0700 Message-Id: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: I have a feeling that my questions are probably fairly elementary, but I would really appreciate any help. 1) Is it possible to direct mail from a single address (a list, say from abc@host) into its own folder without it getting into my inbox? 2) Is there a way I can make a batch file to strip all the headers from the messages that are in this folder? Thank you for your help. Lois Patterson lpat@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 00:15:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01534; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01394; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:06:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01388; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:06:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTOUF-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 21:56:03 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > understand how they do it. However it's done -- and I am not sure myself -- I would recommend against it. This much I am aware of, "control" bytes are embedded in the text of the subject line which are not part of the printable 7-bit US-ASCII character set. On some users' terminals/PCs/whatever, these bytes cause the blinking effect. For other users, they can just cause trouble. Were I one of the latter users, I would be upset. It may look cute -- unless you are one of the recipients whose display goes cuckoo. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 00:19:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01618; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:19:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23336; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:11:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23330; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:11:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTOY3-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clm1948@oeonline.com (Christine Mackley) Subject: Can I forward my newsgroups from one acct to another? Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 23:23:31 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi I have a new slip account and I want to know if I can forward a few newsgroups that I can't get in my new account? I all ready made a forward file and it forwards my email bot now the newsgroup mail. HELP! Thanks in idvance, Christine {*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*} {*} I am 'Kristyne" on Undernet IRC channels #41plus and #big-folks {*} {*} E-mail me at: clm1948@oeonline.com {*} {*} (Yes! I am a 46 year old VBBW [super-size]) {*} {*} You can learn more about me from my homepage: {*} {*} http://oeonline.com/~clm1948/kristyne.html {*} {*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*}{*} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 01:07:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02782; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:07:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02058; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02052; Wed, 5 Jul 95 00:57:28 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:53:29 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id IAA01781; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:58:59 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:58:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Owlman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Inflicting blinking text on unsuspecting recipients is a cruel and unusual punishment. It is not a practice that should be encouraged. Also, the method of doing it is fairly terminal type specific, and what works on one can cause problems on another. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > understand how they do it. > > Thanks for any help or replies in advance. > > WC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 01:26:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03127; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:26:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24012; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24006; Wed, 5 Jul 95 01:16:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:12:54 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03288; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:18:25 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 09:18:25 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Christine Mackley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can I forward my newsgroups from one acct to another? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Whilst Pine allows you to read and send e-mail and Usenet News messages in very similar ways, the underlying delivery mechanisms are quite different. E-mail arrives at your machine, and gets delivered into a file owned by you, and for only you. Once messages have arrived they remain sitting in this file on disk waiting for you to read them and deal with them. Usenet News is quite a different kettle of fish. Here articles are delivered to a special machine running "news server" software. They are held in a *shared* directory area -- the same area is available to all the users, rather then having separate personal copies for each user. When somebody wants to read news Pine (or whatever other news reader you are using) connects to the server and requests a copy of the article to display. This doesn't get saved to a file of your own on disk unless you explicitly give a command to do so. After a time the news server software "expires" old articles, deleting them from its shared directory to make room for new material. So whereas e-mail "comes to you", Usenet News is more of a "you go out and get the article you want to read". This means that whilst e-mail can be redirected -- delivered to a different machine/username -- Usenet News cannot. You *might* be able to get around your problem by connecting to your "old" news server computer (assuming you are still allowed access after your move) to read News from. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Christine Mackley wrote: > Hi > > I have a new slip account and I want to know if I can forward a few > newsgroups that I can't get in my new account? I all ready made a > forward file and it forwards my email bot now the newsgroup mail. > > HELP! > > Thanks in idvance, > Christine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 02:41:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04755; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:41:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03329; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:30:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03323; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTQfU-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 02:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lars Scheffmann Subject: Re: how do I change the user name? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:18:47 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jul 1995, Paul Dowman wrote: > I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the > same account. > > I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the > username. > Use the header field Reply-to: it is designed for this purpose. Most mail clients take this field instead of the From:, when you issue a reply. ............................................................................... . Lars Scheffmann | DOU | Mail: scheffmann@dou.ou.dk . . Netadministrator | Niels Bohrs Alle 11 | Phone: +45 66130827 ext.247 . . Postmaster | 5230 Odense M | Direct: +45 65914700 + 247 . . University of Odense | Denmark | Fax: +45 66123366 . ............................................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 03:40:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06008; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:40:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25414; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:29:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25408; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:29:49 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:26:22 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id LAA11993; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:31:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 11:31:53 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do I change the user name? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "Reply-to:" is not one of the "standard" headers in Pine (the four yet normally see when composing a message. Some additional ones can be seen and used by using the Ctrl/R (Rich Header) command with the cursor on any of the header lines. However, again "Reply-to:" is not amongst these. So what you need to do is add it as a "customised header". You do this (in Pine 3.91) by going to the Main Menu then typing S and C to get to the Setup Configuration screen. Next move down to the "customized-hdrs" variable (quite a way down) and then type A (Add Value). Now enter: Reply-to: username@blah.blah.blah and press Return to accept it. (Obviously "username@blah.blah.blah" should really be the e-mail address you want replies to come back to!) Now leave the Setup Configuration screen by typing E, which will return you to the Main Menu. Now try sending a message. With the cursor up on a header line type Ctrl/R to see all the headers and there should now be an extra one shown as "Reply To:" with a default value of your e-mail address already filled in (because you included it in the Setup Configuration screen). Now send the message and try it out! Note that this header gets added and set up even without having to do a Ctrl/R. You can just Compose a message and send it *without* having to do the Ctrl/R -- all this does is *show* you the extra headers (and let you change them if you wish). Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Lars Scheffmann wrote: > On 4 Jul 1995, Paul Dowman wrote: > > > I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the > > same account. > > > > I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the > > username. > > > Use the header field Reply-to: it is designed for this purpose. > Most mail clients take this field instead of the From:, when you issue a > reply. > > ............................................................................... > . Lars Scheffmann | DOU | Mail: scheffmann@dou.ou.dk . > . Netadministrator | Niels Bohrs Alle 11 | Phone: +45 66130827 ext.247 . > . Postmaster | 5230 Odense M | Direct: +45 65914700 + 247 . > . University of Odense | Denmark | Fax: +45 66123366 . > ............................................................................... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 03:46:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06157; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25509; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25503; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:37:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTRfs-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 03:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: Mail forwarding in pine [on VMS system]. Date: 27 Jun 1995 02:54:05 -0600 Message-Id: <3sogvd$2se@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3p36fl$11p@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> <3sk9j6$it4@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Blue Falcon (jlbrown@universe.digex.net) wrote: : Larry Miller [DT] (lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx) wrote: : : ESPINOZA JAIME C (e0f8et4k@tuzo.erin) wrote: : : > Quick question.. I just want to know the precise format : : > to use in the .forward file for forwarding messages to another : : > location. I know it is simply one line, but like most things.. : : make it the full email address of where you want your mail forwarded VMS is screwey in its forwarding protocals. Pine .forward doesn't work on VMS...sorry...you gotta use VMS mail for that. >From the VMS mail prompt, type: set forward " Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09417; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05769; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:36:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05763; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:36:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTbb-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Owlman Subject: Re: Blinking Subject Line Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 08:28:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Owlman wrote: > > > Has anyone ever noticed that some email has a blinking Subject line. > > What I want to know is can this be done using pine? I've used pico to > > edit several files that have blinking subject lines and as of yet can't > > understand how they do it. > > However it's done -- and I am not sure myself -- I would recommend > against it. This much I am aware of, "control" bytes are embedded in > the text of the subject line which are not part of the printable 7-bit > US-ASCII character set. On some users' terminals/PCs/whatever, these > bytes cause the blinking effect. For other users, they can just cause > trouble. Were I one of the latter users, I would be upset. It may look > cute -- unless you are one of the recipients whose display goes cuckoo. > > Paul Thanks for the info Paul. Now I know why it's not often you see these post with blinking subjects. I myself would be upset also if it locked up my system everytime a post of that nature was sent. Just as I've always said it pays to ask questions first before you venture out on you own. Thanks again. Wm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 05:50:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09559; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:50:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26954; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26948; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTfq-00038HC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:33:41 GMT Message-Id: References: <2ff1caab51c0002@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com> In-Reply-To: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com's message of 27 Jun 1995 22:39:56 -0700 Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "E" == Edward M Greshko writes: E> However, if you'd like to hurry up the development I'm sure E> that the PineTeam would gladly accept a generous (read *large*) E> tax deductible donation to hire the necessary staff to make E> your wishes come true. The Free Software Foundation not only accepts tax deductable contributions (cash), but contributions of time. In other words, you can join the team. What about UW? === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 05:52:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09601; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:52:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05843; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05837; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:41:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTTg0-00038IC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 05:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:35:18 GMT Message-Id: References: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: jlbrown@universe.digex.net's message of 25 Jun 1995 18:18:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "B" == Blue Falcon writes: B> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a B> pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. B> Would appreciate any help on this. DEC Alpha ancient? Anyway, you didn't give any details. Is it running OpenVMS, or Digital Unix? We have pine running on our system just fine (Digital Unix). === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 06:25:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10602; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:25:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06318; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06312; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUAX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Global Address Book File Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:49:17 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: We've added a (large) global addressbook to our system. The result is that pine creates a large (~ 1Mb) file in the /tmp directory (sample name a3000559) for each user of pine. Is there a way to have one such file for all users, instead of each individtual user? We're wasting lots of space. The file doesn't disappear either if a pine is exited abnormally wasting even more space. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 06:27:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10705; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:27:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27348; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27342; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:16:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUAO-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) Subject: Re: Anonymous/Name changes Date: 03 Jul 1995 18:39:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <3ss4ss$ueo@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: jmarken@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca's message of 28 Jun 1995 17:52:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "J" == John Marken writes: J> How would you change your name that is shown in the J> newsgroups. Do you do it through Pine? If you go into setup (from the main menu) and then choose "C" for configuration, you'll find an entry for personal name. I don't know if pine allows you to change your account name. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 07:01:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11680; Wed, 5 Jul 95 07:01:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27820; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:52:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27814; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:52:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTUrJ-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: system@ax1503.chemie.uni-marburg.de (Klaus Harms) Subject: Re: Pine on DEC ALPHA machine Date: 5 Jul 1995 13:09:06 GMT Message-Id: <3te2ti$ino@surz03.HRZ.Uni-Marburg.DE> References: <3sk99m$it4@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , fxars@aurora.alaska.edu (Al Sparks) writes: |>>>>>> "B" == Blue Falcon writes: |> |> B> I need help installing Pine on a DEC ALPHA machine. It's a |> B> pretty ancient system that can't really do much of anything. |> B> Would appreciate any help on this. |> |>DEC Alpha ancient? Anyway, you didn't give any details. Is it |>running OpenVMS, or Digital Unix? We have pine running on our system |>just fine (Digital Unix). |> === Al |> We have pine running on our Alpha/VMS system. A group in Israel is working on the vms version. I've forgotten the ftp address. Klaus -- ========================= Dr. Klaus Harms Fachbereich Chemie der Philipps-Universitaet Hans-Meerwein-Str. D-35032 Marburg E-mail: harms@mailer.uni-marburg.de Phone : +49-6421-287029 Fax : +49-6421-288917 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 07:07:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11908; Wed, 5 Jul 95 07:07:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27846; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:53:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27840; Wed, 5 Jul 95 06:53:28 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:49:50 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id OAA24962; Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:55:16 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:55:16 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Al Sparks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Address Book File In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think this is because although you have created the "address book" file you either haven't created or updated the "lookup" support file. This lives in the same directory as the address book file, and has the same name but with ".lu" appended. (Try looking for .address* in your login directory and you'll see what I mean.) The look up file provides a sort of index into the address book file for quick access. Pine checks the modification times of address book and associated look up files as it starts (or soon after, possibly when you start sending a message). If the look up file doesn't exist or is out of date it then tries to create/update it automatically. However if you don't have write access to the directory/file, as is usually the case for a global address book, it runs into problems. So instead it makes a temporary version in the /tmp directory which it then uses for that session. The solution is for the maintainer of the global address book to update the look up file after any change. You can do this by logging into a username with write access to the directory and file, and then: cd to the directory with the address book pine -create_lu addrbookname sort-order chmod go+r addrbookname.lu where "sort-order" is one of "dont-sort", "nickname", "fullname", "nickname-with-lists-last" or "fullname-with-lists-last" (the same sort orders available in the Setup Configuration screen for your personal address book). REMEMBER to reset the protection of the new/modified look up file (the "chmod" command above). I *always* get caught by this; Pine always (re)creates it with no access to "group" or "others", so people can't read it, so you *still* get the temporary versions being created in /tmp. [I'll e-mail the Pine Team separately asking if they can reuse the protection of any existing look up file when updating it in some future version of Pine.] Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 3 Jul 1995, Al Sparks wrote: > We've added a (large) global addressbook to our system. The result is > that pine creates a large (~ 1Mb) file in the /tmp directory (sample > name a3000559) for each user of pine. > > Is there a way to have one such file for all users, instead of each > individtual user? We're wasting lots of space. The file doesn't > disappear either if a pine is exited abnormally wasting even more > space. > === Al > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 08:38:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14896; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:38:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08526; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:27:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08520; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTWIC-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 08:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Directing Incoming Mail and Stripping Headers Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 10:41:52 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3td2sf$j0c@interchg.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jul 1995, Lois Patterson wrote: | I have a feeling that my questions are probably fairly elementary, but I | would really appreciate any help. No way to find out but ask. :-) | 1) Is it possible to direct mail from a single address (a list, say from | abc@host) into its own folder without it getting into my inbox? Pine by itself does not do this. You need mail filtering software which preprocesses the mail before Pine gets hold of it. On Un*x systems, a common software package to do this is procmail. Rather than take up space here, email me if you are on a Un*x system, and I can point you to some instructions about procmail. It's pretty easy to do. I am very glad the capability exists. | 2) Is there a way I can make a batch file to strip all the headers from | the messages that are in this folder? Maybe somebody will already have this one worked out and will be willing to share. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 09:53:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19290; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:53:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01266; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01260; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:43:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTXTx-00038IC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 09:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: fax software and Pine Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 15:51:26 GMT Message-Id: <3tec7l$cs4@news.paonline.com> References: <3tbpc6$obk@seymour.sfu.ca> Status: O X-Status: chivas@sfu.ca (Jim Chivas) wrote: >Greetings: Has any one any experience with using fax software like >'visifax' and Pine. I would like to hear from anyone who uses fax >software and if they somehow integrate it with pine or just run the fax >software standalone. >Thanks >Jim Yeah, we use PINE & VSIFAX together.... I have had numerous problems making Pine work, although most of the problems so far have been system problems, and have mostly been corrected. What kind of problems are you having? We are using an IBM RS/6000 with AIX UNIX 3.2.0. Kurt Risser MIS, Snider Bolt, Louisviolle, KY 502 968-2250 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 10:32:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20701; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11794; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:27:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11788; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTYCL-00038HC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn Subject: [Q] quick start newsgroup posting from command line Date: Tue, 27 Jun 1995 03:54:10 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I know that I can compose a letter from the command line using pine then the address directly following it, but is there a way that I can use the same quick compose method to post to a newsgroup? My newsgroup header is considered part of the customized-headers field and has to be invoked using ^R everytime I want to post. Is there a quicker way? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Glenn J Escudero - San Jose State University - Mechanical Engineering -- -- E-Mail: glenn@pobox.com - URL: http://www.crl.com/~escudero/home.html -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 10:48:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21428; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02530; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:42:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02524; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:42:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTYOT-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 10:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Andersen SFE Subject: Re: Building PINE 3.91 on Solaris 2.4? Date: 27 Jun 1995 09:42:37 GMT Message-Id: <3sojqd$eo1@balder.adm.ku.dk> References: <3sbefo$le@news.uni-c.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: jhenselm@inter.NL.net (Johan Henselmans) wrote: >I don't seem to get it to work with sol2.4. Understandable, sorry I forgot to mention a change in another file. Here it goes, hopefully more succesfull. Note that I am using gcc, 2.3.3, and may have different organisation of include files that you have. Here is what I did: 0) This works only for pine, a similar problem exist for imapd. 1) Used the build script build CC=gcc sol 2) Edited the file pine/makefile.sol around line 80, by adding -DANSI, so it looks like this: # Use these for the gcc compiler # Yep, marc CC= gcc CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -DANSI 3) Changed around line 194 from BAD: /*----------------- Are we ANSI?----------------------------------*/ BAD: /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ BAD: #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ to /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ /* Changed ma, using gcc which is ansi and understand const */ /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ #ifndef ANSI #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ #endif 4) In pine subdirectory make -f makefile.sol If you want to track the error down, then try in the pine directory: gcc -E -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c | grep "rename(" This is the command issued from makefile.sol. The -E option sends the preprocessor output to stdout, and grep rename searches for defintions of rename. Output is: extern int rename(const char *, const char *); extern int rename( char *, char *); Explaining > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/unistd.h:225: > conflicting types for `rename' > /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.4/2.7.0/include/stdio.h:153: > previous declaration of `rename' Marc Andersen Department of Biostatistics, University of Copenhagen, Denmark e-mail ma@kubism.ku.dk, phone +45 35 32 79 04, fax +45 35 32 79 07 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 11:53:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24188; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:53:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13737; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13729; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTZTX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 11:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Date: Wed, 05 Jul 1995 15:48:04 GMT Message-Id: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> References: Status: O X-Status: miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) wrote: >I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand >whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. >- In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until > it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages > folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume > composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. > Alessandro I have had pine crash under AIX 3.2.0 when choosing C to compose a new message, and also when choosing C to continue composing an interrupted message. When it crashes, it squirts reversed question marks and other bizzarre characters onto the terminal, then hangs. I have to kill pine from another terminal... Kurt Risser Snider Bolt, Louisville, KY USA 502 968-2250 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 13:36:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29168; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:36:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16243; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16237; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:35 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18536; Wed, 5 Jul 95 13:27:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 13:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Al Sparks Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: On 3 Jul 1995, Al Sparks wrote: > The Free Software Foundation not only accepts tax deductable > contributions (cash), but contributions of time. In other words, you > can join the team. > > What about UW? Al, At the first hint of anyone sending us any cash, I'll be happy to inquire about tax exemptions! As for contributing time, there is obviously plenty still to do, but it can get awkard to manage a software project with too many fingers in the pie. The key is to find tasks that can be done relatively independently. For example, quite a few people have suggested having a mailbox driver that compresses/uncompresses the folders. This would be a completely new and separate c-client driver, so it could be developed without any coordination with/by the UW team... but so far there have only been suggestors, no volunteers to implement. Even if there were volunteers, there are quality control and completeness issues as well. Suppose, for example, someone contributed a compressing folder driver. But it only worked on Ultrix. What should we do? Include it in the distribution, even though many people would be disappointed and/or complain that it didn't work on their platform? Or spend the time to generalize it? Or include it as contributed/unsupported? Probably the latter, until it became something that the folks who pay our bills cared about, but my point is that even though there's lots of work to be done, and *maybe* lots of willing hands, it's not always easy to put the two together in a way that actually reduces the work for the core team. Still, on the relatively rare occasions we have received bug fixes or minor enhancements from folks, we've been very grateful to get them. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 14:18:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00593; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:18:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07025; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07019; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:13 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28075; Wed, 5 Jul 95 14:10:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jul 1995 14:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Alberto Torraca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine access error In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Tue, 4 Jul 1995, Alberto Torraca wrote: > Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 08:19:24 -0400 > From: Alberto Torraca > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine access error > > > While attempting to delete old messages from inbox...an access mailbox > violation error is flashed accross the screen. After I exit pine and > execute the program again, I find that the amount of messages I intended > to delete duplicate themselve...so of like critters...has anybody > encounter this problem. This has been an intermittent problem, hard to > trace. We have two servers running linux. Our mail server takes care > of all inbox/incomming mail...our second server allows users to log in > and access their nfs'ed mailbox...any ideas...Thanks. ^^^ That's a likely cause of problems. I'm not sure about this specific one offhand, but I would strongly suggest using IMAP rather that NFS to access remote mailboxes, especially INBOX! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/r/rt/IU4uTDdHNAQGZVAIAm+w6u2lCQ660TBFrwF3Q5MZeIH9zxrVM 8vo7JwEOFXuY42qevJza+JQgZfu4UfriltcoeAwvCuQ+lstpU6MpNQ== =ZBCU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 17:11:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09530; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11408; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:08:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11402; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:08:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTeTK-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clib@ub.d.umn.edu (UMD Library Lab) Subject: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 5 Jul 1995 18:06:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Please email dcrouch and tell him why you like pine, but dont include this email address. >From dcrouch@ub.d.umn.edu Wed Jul 5 17:59:11 1995 Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:23:53 -0500 (CDT) From: donald crouch To: UMD Library Lab Cc: hgehring@ub.d.umn.edu Subject: Re: elm vs pine Thank you for the information. We prefer elm in the CS Department. d crouch > > > Hello > > Concerning CS1010... > > As consultants, we have found that pine is easier to use than elm. In > addition, Pine is the officially supported IS email package. > > -- > Library Computer Lab > 165 Library, 726-6549 > -- Library Computer Lab 165 Library, 726-6549 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 20:01:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14120; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:01:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24702; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:58:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24696; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:58:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTh8H-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: an255297@anon.penet.fi Message-Id: <020519Z06071995@anon.penet.fi> Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 01:59:28 UTC Subject: Pine hack needed Status: O X-Status: How can one forward mail using Pine if one does not have a shell account, just menu access. There is no way to do it through the menu options. Can one hack into the Pine configuration to do this. is there a way to get a .dot forward file into my account? Would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. If you reply to this message, your message WILL be *automatically* anonymized and you are allocated an anon id. Read the help file to prevent this. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 20:42:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15419; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:42:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14205; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14199; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:38:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sThi1-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmlodoch@grape.epix.net (Rich Mlodoch) Subject: Intergraph Date: 6 Jul 1995 03:24:54 GMT Message-Id: <3tfl26$pdp@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Has anybody out there ever compiled pine on an Intergraph workstation or server? -- *************************** Rich Mlodoch rwmlodoc@ingr.com <-- Work rmlodoch@epix.net <-- Play [ Insert clever tagline here ] *************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:21:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16173; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:21:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25856; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25850; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTiNT-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Re: Getting pine integrated with pgp Date: 5 Jul 1995 22:18:49 GMT Message-Id: <3tf349$6d9@mippet.ci.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: pickerin@phoenix.sas.muohio.edu (Robert A. Pickering Jr.) writes: >The best thing I've found for integrating PGP with Pine is mkpgp. > >It's available on the cyberpunks ftp site at berkeley. > >-Rob > >J.M. Ivler (ivler@crl.com) wrote: >: Is there a FAQ, or a URL, that explains how to integrate pine with pgp? > >: Thanks. > >: jmi >: ivler@crl.com > >-- Could you please, tell me how to reach this cyberpunks ftp site at berkeley. I also need help about compiling pine in SCO UNIX 3.2v4.2, regarding libcrypt.a Our system doesn't have libcrypt.a. How could we get one ? Thanks & regards Ferry Winarta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:21:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16214; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:21:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14658; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14652; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:18:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTiNX-00038EC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Pine & PGP on SCO 3.2v4.2 Date: 5 Jul 1995 22:23:08 GMT Message-Id: <3tf3cc$6d9@mippet.ci.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 21:55:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17492; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:55:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26580; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:53:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26574; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:53:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTitV-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: possible to compartmentalized .pinerc info Date: 6 Jul 1995 04:35:04 GMT Message-Id: <3tfp5o$jp6@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I use pine with different .pinerc files using `pine -p pinerc.special' and I'd like to be able to have some settings that I always use that I set in one file, e.g., pinerc.generic, and other files where I set different things differently depending on what I want to do, e.g., pinerc.special1, pinerc.special2, etc. Is there a way to do this? Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 5 22:41:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18538; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:41:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15907; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:38:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15901; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:38:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTjZX-00038CC; Wed, 5 Jul 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: owner and group of pine folders Date: 6 Jul 1995 03:18:17 GMT Message-Id: <3tfklp$i79@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: I have a couple accounts on one system and I'd like to be able to access the mail folders in both these accounts using pine running on one of the accounts. When the folder is owned by the userid that's running the pine process, there's no problem. But if the folder is owned by another userid, pine is not able to open the folder, even if it has the same group as the userid running the process and has 660 permission, e.g.: -rw-rw---- 1 nancym mcgough blah blah blah folder1 -rw-rw---- 1 ii mcgough blah blah blah folder2 I'm able to look at both folder1 and folder2 using less or more but if I'm logged in as nancym and try to open folder2 using pine I get this message: [Not a folder: folder2] It would be great if the next release of pine would let me open a folder like this, but if you don't allow that it would be good to give a more informative error message, e.g. "Not owned by you." Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 00:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21252; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:55:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29008; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:49:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29002; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:49:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTlfh-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 00:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcdaniel@u.washington.edu (Henry McDaniel) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 6 Jul 1995 07:33:54 GMT Message-Id: <3tg3l2$7hb@nntp5.u.washington.edu> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) writes: >I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of >them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs >together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a >lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be >necessary. >Also is there a way to tell Pine that the delete key is not the same as >the backspace key. In all my other programs the delete key deletes the >character under the cursor. In Pine (and Pico) it does the same thing as >the backspace key and I keep deleting the wrong character. Hmm not sure. But I would almost bet you that if you use SHIFT-backspace it will delete. As to the justify problem: This may not work depending on your setup.. but if we're talking about UNIX, Upload your file to your directory (outside of pine) Startup pine, When in the header's area hit ctrl-r, go to the attachment's field. Enter the filename and path you uploaded. Bingo. -McDaniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 01:48:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22847; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:48:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18106; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18100; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTmUw-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chen@cis.pku.edu.cn (Dr. Ke CHEN) Subject: Urgent: wanted help. Date: 6 Jul 1995 09:41:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tgb56$v04@linuxguy.pku.edu.cn> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I have just installed the Popclient. Unfortunately, I cannot use it. As a result, I wonder if there is FAQ about the pop. If the answer is negative, would you please answer the following urgent questions: Q1: How to read an email in spool from the remote server using popclient? Q2: How to read an email in a file(e.g. mbox) from the remote server using popclient? Q3: How to use popclient to send an mail from the local machine but using the email account in the server? (E.g. I'm using the popclient in machine X and the server is machine Y. Whether or not do I use the popclient to send a mail with myname@Y.pku.edu.cn?) Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Ke Chen chen@cis.pku.edu.cn ~ P.S. Email response is prefered. ~ ~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 04:13:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26403; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:13:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01922; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:09:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01916; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTomK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 04:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: mail and news Web page Date: 6 Jul 1995 10:49:42 GMT Message-Id: <3tgf46$gb8@news1.halcyon.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm in the process of updating my Mail and News Web page and would appreciate feedback. I've got links to Pine's Web page, ftp directory, history page, and FAQ. It's at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html Please send me suggestions for improving it! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 05:09:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27698; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:09:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02560; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [192.122.237.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02554; Thu, 6 Jul 95 05:03:27 -0700 Received: from NKU.EDU by NKU.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #2474) id <01HSJJTCKMX2CCI6IH@NKU.EDU>; Thu, 06 Jul 1995 08:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 08:02:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Steffen Subject: Problem retaining SUBJECT on SENTMAIL To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: World-Wide Pine-Info, I have been experiencing a problem with losing the SUBJECT info in my SENTMAIL folder list and subsequent SAVES to other folders. Any ideas/suggestions how I can retain the SUBJECT description in SENTMAIL or is this a bug in Pine? ================================================================================ Jim Steffen, Network Manager Northern Kentucky University STEFFEN@NKU.EDU ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 07:48:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01199; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22056; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22050; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:45:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTs9W-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wendy@babbage.cs.murdoch.edu.au (wendy Monk) Subject: PINE on AIX 1.3.1 Date: 6 Jul 95 13:44:05 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am running AIX 1.3.1 on a PS/2 and would like to use pine. Is there any way to set up pine for this system? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 08:07:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01710; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:07:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22321; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:02:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stallion.jsums.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22315; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:02:58 -0700 Received: by stallion.jsums.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA09133; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:03:37 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 10:03:36 -0500 (CDT) From: Premnath Tirumalasetty To: UMD Library Lab Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! In-Reply-To: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi folks: I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help from a help list. But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most of the VI commands can be used. Thanks. Premnath, T. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 08:50:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03052; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:50:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23139; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23133; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46:13 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:42:25 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id QAA18219; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:47:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 16:47:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Premnath Tirumalasetty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the message text area. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > Hi folks: > > I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 > and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view > all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help > from a help list. > > But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most > of the VI commands can be used. > > Thanks. > > Premnath, T. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:00:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03496; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:00:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06013; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:51:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06007; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTt86-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 08:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 5 Jul 1995 19:24:49 GMT Message-Id: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: Chip Old (fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us) wrote: : On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: : > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of : > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs : > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a : > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be : > necessary. : : It would help to know what platform Pine is running on (UNIX? DOS?) and : how you're accessing it (dial-up?), but I'll guess it's on a UNIX box and : you're accessing it by dialing into a shell account. : : I do ASCII uploads into Pine fairly often and don't have that problem. : I suspect it is your telecomm software, not Pine, that is to blame. Some : telecomm software ignores lines containing only a CR during an ASCII : dump. In some telecomm software this is configurable, so check that : first. : : If that doesn't work, the trick is to make your "blank" lines actually : non-blank. Put a space character or two on each blank line. This will : still appear to be a blank line to the reader, but your computer will : treat it as a non-blank line. Most telecomm software will send such : lines unmodified. If that doesn't work, then put an unobtrusive character : (like a period) on each "blank" line. I use Telix to call a BBS that has Pine on a Unix box. I have Telix configured to expand blank lines (it adds a space). I have also tried it without expanding blank lines with the same results. I have even tried using THREE blank lines between each paragraph but it still justified them all together. The next thing I will try is changing the blank lines to 65 spaces. : : -------------------------------------------------------------------- : Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us : Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 : Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 : 320 York Road : Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:07:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04204; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:07:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06361; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:03:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dante.phs.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06353; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:03:43 -0700 Received: by dante.phs.com; id JAA24844; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:04:18 -0700 Received: from dcv31b.phs.com(149.111.1.5) by dante.phs.com via smap (g3.0.1) id sma024840; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:04:13 -0700 Received: from raven.phs.com by DCV31B.PHS.COM (PMDF V4.3-7 #4056) id <01HSJM30IL4G000RZJ@DCV31B.PHS.COM>; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:07:10 PDT Received: by raven.phs.com; (5.65/1.1.8.2/26Jun95-1111PM) id AA00443; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:03:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 06 Jul 1995 09:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hatz Subject: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. Is there an easy way to do this? Thanks, Mike ===== "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:25:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04939; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24124; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24110; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:21:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTtct-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 6 Jul 1995 14:37:12 GMT Message-Id: <3tgsep$svp@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> clib@ub.d.umn.edu (UMD Library Lab) writes: >Please email dcrouch and tell him why you like pine, but dont include this >email address. I only wish I could use elm instead of pine! From a user's point of view elm is vastly superior, but it's such a pain in the ass to get it to compile that on this site I'm stuck with pine. I've gotten used to it by now, but it still does enough irritating things that I'd switch to elm instantly if given the choice. (My leading gripes: even setting the signature at end variable won't put my .signature after, rather than before, the text of forwarded mail, and pine won't insert signature dashes so I have to have a different .sig for pine than for the rest of the world. Plus I hate the number of menus and the counterintuitive key bindings: 'm' has meant compose mail in every mailer I've used since Mail, but now every time I hit m I end up staring at the main menu.) Not to dog on pine too much -- it's better than mush, at least. -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05086; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07001; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:23:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06995; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:23:20 -0700 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA23074; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:22:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 09:22:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you > can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > > In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor > is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the > message text area. Not only that, there is no way to stop invoking alternate editor implicitly with pine.conf.fixed, and you can make a shell you editor, thus gaining access to a shell from a restricted menu! o o o o o o o . . . _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~LinkNet~~~~~~\_ o _____ | Kitsap Regional | | Support | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | Library | |'least we try! | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Support: (360) 405-9131 Fax:(360) 405-9128 support@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us Michael Schuyler: Voice:(360) 405-9139 michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06117; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07667; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stallion.jsums.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07661; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:49:37 -0700 Received: by stallion.jsums.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22433; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Premnath Tirumalasetty To: Mike Hatz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Its simple and tricky to do. Forward the mail to your own address. Premnath, T. On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Hatz wrote: > I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. > Is there an easy way to do this? > > Thanks, > > Mike > ===== > "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term > 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:56:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06223; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:56:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07756; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07750; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:53:27 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:49:52 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id RAA22668; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:03 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Schuyler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I don't think I agree with you on this... I've just tried adding the following to our "fixed" configuration file: feature-list=no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly, ...any other features you want to fix... The "no-" prefix indicates these feature-list values are to be forced "off" (omitting the "no-" forces a value on). Any feature-list values not listed in the "fixed" configuration file can be altered by the user; ones listed cannot. Doesn't this happen for you? (We're using Pine 3.91) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Michael Schuyler wrote: > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you > > can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > > > > In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor > > is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the > > message text area. > > > Not only that, there is no way to stop invoking alternate editor > implicitly with pine.conf.fixed, and you can make a shell you editor, > thus gaining access to a shell from a restricted menu! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 09:58:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06279; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:58:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07798; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07792; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:55:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTuC7-00038HC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dek-leang-kwai Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 15:58:08 GMT Message-Id: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Could you please solve word wrap problem? When cut text from other xterm and paste in pine then it wrap at col 75 and 75-80 col become junk on the other line. THANKS, zxc pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) wrote: >In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you >can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. > >In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor >is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the >message text area. > >Mike Brudenell >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK >Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > >On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > >> Hi folks: >> >> I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 >> and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view >> all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help >> from a help list. >> >> But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most >> of the VI commands can be used. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Premnath, T. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:20:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10029; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:20:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26575; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:15:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26569; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:15:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTvRz-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcoleman@shark.ece.utexas.edu () Subject: Re: a CS prof thinks elm is better than pine!! Date: 6 Jul 1995 15:21:12 GMT Message-Id: <3tgv18$mr0@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <3tf5u6$kkg@ub.d.umn.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: >Hi folks: > >I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 >and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view >all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help >from a help list. > >But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most >of the VI commands can be used. Splunge. Here's what I like about pine: 1) Supports remote mailboxes via IMAP. 2) My wife can use it; doesn't have to learn cryptic VI commands. Here's what I like about elm: 1) Smaller, less code bloat (makes a difference on some old Sparcs we have with only 8M of RAM. :( 2) Doesn't include a newsreader (trn IMHO is the best NR out there, the one builtin to pine is slow and I never use it.) 3) OS/2 port available. So, for me, if elm directly supported POP or IMAP, I would prefer it, but it doesn't, so it's basically a tossup. Dan -- Daniel Matthew Coleman | Internet: dcoleman@mail.utexas.edu -----------------------------------+ coleman@uts.cc.utexas.edu The University of Texas at Austin | Electrical/Computer Engineering | http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~coleman/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:27:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10331; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:27:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10080; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10074; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:38 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27746; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:23:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: possible to compartmentalized .pinerc info In-Reply-To: <3tfp5o$jp6@news1.wolfe.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 6 Jul 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > I use pine with different .pinerc files using `pine -p pinerc.special' > and I'd like to be able to have some settings that I always use that > I set in one file, e.g., pinerc.generic, and other files where I > set different things differently depending on what I want to do, > e.g., pinerc.special1, pinerc.special2, etc. Is there a way to > do this? > If you can do without the systemwide pine.conf file, use pine -P pinerc.generic -p pinerc.special |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/wqIt/IU4uTDdHNAQGSRwH+OJEiRxHdbn6L3XRnolzdHxyLGUGGcG58 3tbibLvwI9U5TAT3gXleej7SvytG0Vpym6rbPehgdiyFLrLTRX2ASA== =tGHb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 11:35:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10794; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:35:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10250; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:32:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10244; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:32:01 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27926; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:31:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Premnath Tirumalasetty Cc: Mike Hatz , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Even easier, Save the message to INBOX... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 11:50:09 -0500 (CDT) > From: Premnath Tirumalasetty > To: Mike Hatz > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Copying messages BACK into [INBOX] > > Its simple and tricky to do. Forward the mail to your own address. > > Premnath, T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Mike Hatz wrote: > > > I didn't see a meta-key for moving read messages back into the [INBOX]. > > Is there an easy way to do this? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike > > ===== > > "If I hear one more *&^%%$!!! journalist use the term > > 'Information Super Highway' I am going to throw up!" > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/wsEd/IU4uTDdHNAQHRhgH/RhAeZfKZ+hWWTuAXi9foSE2jarZe9vRt qw7+DG1/FtydnO4vhviUijwKnocW3jwaiIeIewtVhVa+Iwlb/KJxfA== =jmf6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:06:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12419; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:06:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10949; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10943; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:00:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTw95-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csmith@cldc.howard.edu (Carl A. Smith) Subject: Pine source code? Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:48:49 GMT Message-Id: <3th7m1$g00@sulu.cldc.howard.edu> Status: O X-Status: -Where can I find the complete pine source code for version 3.91?? I would like to design a GUI for it. Or for 3.92 if it is to be released soon. Thank in advance. csmith ****************************************************************************** * * * If Jesus was the son of God.....and we are ALL God's children... * * then that makes Jesus a BROTHER. * * * * * * csmith@cldc.howard.edu * ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12643; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27792; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:07:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27786; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:07:34 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA08012; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:07:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:07:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook without retyping each and every one of them? ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:13:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12740; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:13:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11151; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11145; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08:49 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id PAA07584 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:08:47 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA16531 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:08:10 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA00187; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:04:10 EDT Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 15:04:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hey, Piners. Please note that it isn't what Dave Miller wrote but what his header says. He's using Pine 3.92! It must be close. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:15:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12833; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:15:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27850; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27838; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTwGA-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dek-leang-kwai Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 18:18:44 GMT Message-Id: <3th9e4$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3th7ce$3lt@news1.wolfe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) wrote: Thanks. I don't means any editor not vi and not pico. I means simple cut text from another xterm and put into pine. I have no problem when set automatic vi as editor. But this will slow down the process because I have to quit vi before sending mail by pine. BTW: where should I set :se wm=0 It doesn't exist in .pinerc THANKS, zxc >If you're referring to wrapping when using vi, that is controlled >by the vi configuration, not the pine configuration. Most >systems will set up vi with a polite right margin, wide enough >that quoted text won't start wrapping onto the next line. > >In any case, the vi variable involved is the wrapmargin, or wm. >It's the margin from the right, so the command > >:se wm=1 > >on an 80-column terminal will wrap lines after column 79. If you > >:se wm=0 > >then vi will stop auto-wrapping entirely. > >You can permanently configure vi by editing your .exrc to include >a line like > >set wrapmargin=X > >where X is whatever margin you prefer. > > >-- > >Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 > "My other bike is a car." -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 12:16:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12904; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:16:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11227; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11221; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:10:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTwI1-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: Pine on VMS system Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:56:56 GMT Message-Id: <3th858$1ja8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does Pine compress automatically on the VMS? In regular MAIL on VMS you must delete and compress to free up the disk space. I was hoping that PINE was doing this automatically on VMS. sincerely, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:07:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15881; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:07:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08351; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08345; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:00:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTx4k-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 12:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: qi/cso links ? Date: 6 Jul 1995 12:49:15 -0300 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: When will we see hooks in pine to do address lookup via qi/cso servers ? I can think of one way to do it, like an address book item which contains the address of the cso server. I must admit that in pegasis mail that lookup feature, though tied to the novell username list, is quite handy -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16423; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12967; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:20:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12961; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:20:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTxNv-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean-Marc Wislez Subject: Reading archives on another computer Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 17:55:19 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: At the university, I use pine 3.91. When looking at my mail archives (containing both sent and received mail) there, the messages I received are labeled with the name of the sender in the index, while the messages I sent are indicated with "To: ...". While reading the archives at home (pine 3.91 on Linux), the messages I sent are indicated with my name, instead of "To: ...", as on that system, jmwislez@eduserv.rug.ac.be (my university address) is a stranger. How can I tell pine that I am both and , to be able to see the recipient in the index instead of my own name ? Please send any reply to , as I do not regularly check this newsgroup. Jean-Marc Wislez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 13:43:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17281; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09403; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:40:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09395; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:40:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTxfK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nandanwa@ta9.cs.uiuc.edu (Ajay Sudhanwa Nandanwar) Subject: Where to download pine from: for sparc m/cs. Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:27:45 GMT Message-Id: <3thh01$jos@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Some idea where to download pine from for sun sparcs!! Please send me mail directory as I don't read this newsgroup very often. thanks, -ajay -- Ajay S. Nandanwar, (E-mail: nandanwa@cs.uiuc.edu) Currently at Pittsburgh: Ph: (412)-338-2041 (O), 681-3382 (R). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 14:33:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19941; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:33:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14512; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14506; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTyTu-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 14:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@dcs.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 6 Jul 1995 19:42:45 GMT Message-Id: <3thebl$t7h@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've been using Pine3.91 on an AIX 3.2.5 system for some time now. We've recently upgraded to AIX 4.1, and I'm not sure if that's causing the following problem or not. In the past, I've been automatically prompted on a monthly basis as to whether or not I'd like to move my default-fcc file to a file-mmm-yyy archive file. For the past two months, I've not received this prompt. I've searched the Pine FAQ and the Pine configuration screen, but I can't find anything that controls this (perhaps I'm missing something obvious). Does anyone know what might be causing this problem? Thanks! -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 15:10:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21397; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:10:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11209; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11203; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTyzU-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@Wolfe.NET (Joshua_Putnam) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 17:43:41 GMT Message-Id: <3th7ce$3lt@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3th16g$dgp@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> dek-leang-kwai writes: >pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk (Mike Brudenell) wrote: >>In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you >>can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. >> >>In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor >>is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the >>message text area. >Could you please solve word wrap problem? >When cut text from other xterm and paste in pine >then it wrap at col 75 and 75-80 col become junk on the other line. If you're referring to wrapping when using vi, that is controlled by the vi configuration, not the pine configuration. Most systems will set up vi with a polite right margin, wide enough that quoted text won't start wrapping onto the next line. In any case, the vi variable involved is the wrapmargin, or wm. It's the margin from the right, so the command :se wm=1 on an 80-column terminal will wrap lines after column 79. If you :se wm=0 then vi will stop auto-wrapping entirely. You can permanently configure vi by editing your .exrc to include a line like set wrapmargin=X where X is whatever margin you prefer. -- Josh@WOLFE.net is Joshua Putnam/P.O. Box 13220/Burton, WA 98013 "My other bike is a car." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 15:28:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22214; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:28:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15690; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15684; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTzJm-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 15:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mpapakhi@ezinfo.ucs.indiana.edu (Mary Papakhian) Subject: /Mail/sent-lock Date: 6 Jul 1995 22:08:11 GMT Message-Id: <3thmsb$6uk@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Status: O X-Status: We have a user on our system who gets the error message error creating /Mail/sent-lock.mail no such folder or directory when he tries to send a mail message. The message does get sent, though. Shouldn't pine be trying to write to his Mail subdirectory rather than /Mail? Is there something I can change in his .pinerc to fix this? The workaround for now is to create /Mail--this prevents the displaying of the error message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 16:09:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23958; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:09:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12390; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:05:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12384; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:05:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sTzvK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: ***address-loop-or-duplicate*** Date: 6 Jul 1995 18:57:23 -0400 Message-Id: <3thpoj$97t@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Don Hayward wrote: > >I have an address list made up entirely of people in the local domain. It >is my understanding that I need use only the userid of each party in the >list. This works, mostly. When I mail to the list, three of the >addresses in it fail and the MAILER_DAEMON mail failed message lists the >failed addresses in this form: > > ... illegal character in hostname > >How can this be corrected? case matters. If the addressbook is all lower case, and you enter the id in upper or mixed case, this happens. I corrected this by just putting the fully qualified address into the addressbooks. -- Ken Weaverling |*| Computer Services, Delaware Tech College weave@dtcc.edu |*| (My opinions are mine alone, I don't speak for the college) ================|*| http://www.dtcc.edu/~weave/ (Finger weave@hopi.dtcc.edu for PGP key, weave@ssnet.com for fingerprint) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 16:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24520; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17247; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:26:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17241; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:25:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU0HL-00038EC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 16:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:52:53 GMT Message-Id: <3thif5$jd0@clarknet.clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: After setting the wrapmargin to 8 or so, you will probably want to reformat a paragraph since wrapmargin works only when the cursor moves past the selected column. The following mapping in your .exrc file will allow you to automatically reformat a paragraph: map ^O {!}fmt^M}j Give it a try. Remember the ^M must be entered as ^V^M to get a real ^M into the .exrc file. /Todd Natkin natkin@clark.net Mike Brudenell (pmb1@mailer.york.ac.uk) wrote: : In Pine 3.91 you can set up an "alternate editor" (such as "vi") which you : can flip to (by typing Ctrl/_) whilst editing the message body. : In fact you can even set a feature variable so that your alternate editor : is invoked automatically as soon as you move the cursor down into the : message text area. : Mike Brudenell : ------------------------------------------------------------------------ : The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK : Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ : On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Premnath Tirumalasetty wrote: : > Hi folks: : > : > I think Pine has lot many features than ELM. I use both PINE 3.91 : > and ELM. PINE is more user-friendly compared to ELM. One can view : > all the commands on the menu in PINE. In ELM one needs to take help : > from a help list. : > : > But one good feature of ELM is that it works on VI editor. So, most : > of the VI commands can be used. : > : > Thanks. : > : > Premnath, T. -- ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 19:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01326; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16551; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tyrell.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16545; Thu, 6 Jul 95 19:55:55 -0700 Received: by tyrell.net id AA29923 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:51:49 -0500 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 21:51:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Paul Winders/Topeka-KS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Windows Pine problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using PC-Pine in Windows. After logging in with my internet service provider with Trumpet Winsock, I bring up PC-Pine. When I try to open "INBOX" pine asks for my login and password. Firstly, I don't think it should, since I am already logged in. Secondly, If I do type them in, Pine keeps telling me that they are in-correct. The newsgroups and the "update server" seem to work fine. Apparently I am doing something wrong (or not doing something right)... Help, and thanks in advance. Paul... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 20:59:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02750; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:59:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22171; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:56:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22165; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:56:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU4Sh-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 7 Jul 1995 02:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <3ti4u5$13iv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: DANIEL PRINCE (neutrino@annex.com) wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. Pine does the same thing to me, in a most impresive way. I usually run Pine 3.91 in a Terminal window on my NeXTstation, running NextStep 3.1. If I copy & paste text into the window running Pine (or Pico), the pasted text is automatically justified into a single large paragraph, regardless of any blank lines. The wierdest part happens if any following paragraphs are "too close". The pasted text "gobbles up" the existing text, and lines of each get mixed together, and then the whole thing gets justified. What a mess! This doesn't make any sense to me. Pasting text into a window should have the exact same results as typing it in, right? I've also found another way to reproduce this bug, for those of you who aren't lucky enough to use NextStep. Use any(?) IBM-PC vt100 terminal emulation program, login to your UNIX box, run Pine or Pico, and do an ASCII upload of a UNIX-format text file. I.e. text lines separated only by a single line-feed (0x0a), rather than DOS's normal CR-LF. ------ Jim LeBay (517) 353-1800 x143 353-5364 (FAX) Computing Information Center lebay@msu.edu Michigan State University lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail) ---------- When I was a boy I was told that anybody could become President. Now I'm beginning to believe it. -- Clarence Darrow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 21:44:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03785; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17965; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17959; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:41:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU5DZ-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 21:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: TZ env variable in PINE Message-Id: <1995Jul7.022925.5702@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 02:29:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the env variable for TZ in pine? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 6 22:51:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05362; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:51:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23680; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:46:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23674; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:46:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sU6BK-00038CC; Thu, 6 Jul 95 22:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 22:52:35 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3sqeh4$t4j@jhunix1.hcf.jhu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Jun 1995, Thomas F. Steck wrote: > for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a > true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a ^^^ Sometime ago there was a talk about a mail reader called Spruce to-be-built on top of PINE which would offer a true X11 GUI ... I don't see much talk about Spruce anymore! Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 02:23:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09979; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26578; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:20:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26572; Fri, 7 Jul 95 02:19:59 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:15:02 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA04962; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:20:33 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 10:20:33 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha Testing" springs to mind? ;-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > > > Hey, Piners. > > Please note that it isn't what Dave Miller wrote but what his header > says. He's using Pine 3.92! > > It must be close. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 05:32:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14545; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:32:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29089; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:28:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29083; Fri, 7 Jul 95 05:28:02 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id IAA07685; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:27:52 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [166.16.124.4]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id IAA01306; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:27:48 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.psf.ge.com (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02958; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:26:26 EDT Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 08:26:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous > not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because > they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they > can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha > Testing" springs to mind? ;-) > That's what I figured, which is why I said it must be getting close. So, any idea how one becomes a Beta Tester? I'd be willing to ring it out. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 08:41:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18811; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:41:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02061; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02055; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUFTM-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 08:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: ASCII upload problem Date: 6 Jul 1995 20:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: I finally figured out why Pico was justifying everything I ASCII uploaded. It was because Telix was sending a CR LF at the end of each line. LF is the same as control J which is the command Pico uses for justify. One I told Telix to strip linefeeds everything worked correctly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 09:18:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20534; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:18:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03042; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:15:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29854; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:12:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:11:59 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Don Sugarman Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Doesn't necessarily follow... This has been commented on with previous > > not-yet-released version of Pine in the same circumstances. Just because > > they haven't *released* the next version to us lot doesn't mean they > > can't use it themselves to test it out. (I think the phrase "Alpha > > Testing" springs to mind? ;-) > > That is basically correct. By this definition, Pine 3.92 went into Alpha a day or so after 3.91 was released. > That's what I figured, which is why I said it must be getting close. > > So, any idea how one becomes a Beta Tester? I'd be willing to ring it out. > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > If you support an architecture that we don't have here at UW and have the resources to make the necessary changes and send us patches fairly quickly, let me know. I'm not saying we are any where near ready to send anything out, but it would be nice to have a list when we need it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/1c39/IU4uTDdHNAQHsSQH+IsGdmAifXzob+s5Hi/O8+EfyqNGT+Wty 6uhaiYVAn8055oVxil8Dlpr/DOsMiEJlgJ/HrkjsNmu9U+c3SKaIfw== =tc75 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 09:19:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20615; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:19:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03027; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03019; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29881; Fri, 7 Jul 95 09:14:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 09:14:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Last info I heard on this was that the author of SPRUCE had given up on the possibility of having time to continue the project... :( |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 6 Jul 1995, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jul 1995 22:52:35 -0600 > From: Farid Hamjavar > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Will Pine 3.92 ever be created? > > > > On 28 Jun 1995, Thomas F. Steck wrote: > > > for a new version of pine? Especially one that includes a > > true window (either X11, MS-Win, or Apple) interface. If a > ^^^ > > Sometime ago there was a talk about a mail reader > called Spruce to-be-built on top of PINE which would > offer a true X11 GUI ... I don't see much talk about > Spruce anymore! > > Farid > hamjavar@unm.edu > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL/1dZN/IU4uTDdHNAQEa2gH/Z2FIGobfen35rGwFU5ek4fwPhNdFLUlF zCSEHh1p9t5hVECyrPlLqDGgiEiEarENBLL7R1uaB66j2rorA/q+kg== =gWeo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 12:12:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28009; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:12:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00121; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00115; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05947; Fri, 7 Jul 95 12:08:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global Address Book File In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > [deleted] > > The solution is for the maintainer of the global address book to update > the look up file after any change. You can do this by logging into a > username with write access to the directory and file, and then: > > cd to the directory with the address book > pine -create_lu addrbookname sort-order > chmod go+r addrbookname.lu > > where "sort-order" is one of "dont-sort", "nickname", "fullname", > "nickname-with-lists-last" or "fullname-with-lists-last" (the same sort > orders available in the Setup Configuration screen for your personal > address book). > > REMEMBER to reset the protection of the new/modified look up file (the > "chmod" command above). I *always* get caught by this; Pine always > (re)creates it with no access to "group" or "others", so people can't > read it, so you *still* get the temporary versions being created in /tmp. I don't know if it will help you or not, but it actually uses the umask of the creator to decide what mode to make the new file. So, you could replace the chmod above by something which caused the umask to be 22 instead of 77. > [I'll e-mail the Pine Team separately asking if they can reuse the > protection of any existing look up file when updating it in some future > version of Pine.] Good idea. I'll add it in the next version. Thanks. > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:01:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02792; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09900; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09894; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:08 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06640; Fri, 7 Jul 95 13:56:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 13:55:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Kurt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Dual Edged Sword In-Reply-To: <3spd17$mlo@news.paonline.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: You haven't given us much to go on... more details symptoms plus info on your installation, versions, OS flavor, comm software, and usage patterns would perhaps provide a starting point. -teg On Tue, 27 Jun 1995, Kurt wrote: > It sure is frustrating to have a fine program like PINE and PICO, with > no installation instructions- at least no *complete* installation > instructions. Sometimes PINE works, sometimes it doesn't... but MAIL > always works. Some of my PINE users get their mail, others only get > it sometimes... The screen often fills up with garbage when choosing > C to compose. > > Can anyone shed any light on this situation? I really want to use > PINE, it's much nicer than MAIL.... except it doesn't work reliably. > I have checked all the documentation at the FTP site, the web site, > and here on the USENET, to no avail.... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:16:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03183; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02706; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:13:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02692; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:13:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUKgQ-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Garry Petrie Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 18:40:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: I get the following error compiling PINE on AIX3.2. Where is osdep.h? Please respond to me at gp@ssd.intel.com Thanks >build a32 make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=a32 echo a32 > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype cd ANSI/c-client; make a32 ANSI/c-client: No such file or directory The error code from the last failed command is 1. Make Quitting. The error code from the last failed command is 2. Make Quitting. Making Pico Making Pine. Make: Do not know how to make ../c-client/osdep.h. Check that the target is defined in the description file and that the dependency files exist. Quitting. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/pine. size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/mtest. size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/imapd. bin/pico: 492 + 143724 + 148 + 20356 + 1536 + 124 + 9065 + 225317 = 400762 Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:26:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03589; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:26:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10569; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:23:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10562; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:23:51 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA16143; Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:23:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 17:23:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Usenet List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I keep on getting references to usenet discussion groups which are not listed in my News-Collection list. What file is this list supposed to be reading? And how can I get it updated or corrected? Thanks for any help. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 14:30:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03765; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:30:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10656; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:28:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10650; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:28:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUKtC-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 14:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Holder Subject: Re: Vacation! Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 15:40:46 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Simone, Sorry I took so long to respond - busy schedule. Start at the Unix Comp Prompt: 1) Type vacation 2) If it's your first time to use vacation, the program will display an editing screen (using the default editor - in most cases vi). 3) Make any changes that you want in your auto message text. 4) If you are using vi, type :Q 5) You will see the following prompt. You have a message file in /export/home2/shortcrs/short1/.vacation.msg Would You like to see it? 6) Answer Y if you would like to review the current message. 7) You will see the contents of the message followed by: Would you like to edit it? 8) Answer N if the message is ok. 9) You will see the following prompt: To enable the vacation feature a .forward file is created. Would you like to enable the vaction feature? 10)Answer y The vacation message is now enabled. Each person sending you mail gets a message back stating the contents of the message file that you created. To Disable the Vacation Message Remove or rename the .forward file. rm .forward or mv .forward .oldforward The vaction message is deactivated. Hope this helps. Randy Holder Electronic Mail Specialist University of Arkansas On Mon, 3 Jul 1995, Simone Shoemaker wrote: > In article you wrote: > : Vacation is a unix command that is normally issued from the unix prompt. > : It makes use of the forwarding function to send an automatic reply. > : (I suspect you are on a unix type system.) > > : Hope this helps, > > : Randy Holder > : E-Mail Support Specialist > : University of Arkansas > > > Hi Randy, > you wrote this in response to someone asking about vacation mailers - > would you be so kind to send me some more detailed info on how to set > that kind of automatic response up? I'd really appreciate it! > > I'm not particularily compurer-literate, so please explain in the > simplest terms possible. (I know what an Unix promt is, but that's about > the end of my working knowledge of Unix!) > > -- Simone Shoemaker > *************************************************************************** > Bronco Video >>> Producer of the FAMOUS ;-) cat lover's video > P.O.Box 343 "It's a Cat's Life!" > San Marcos, CA 92079 ...and some more serious stuff.<<< > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 16:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08224; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04838; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:58:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04832; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUMI6-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 15:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: natkin@clark.net (Todd Natkin) Subject: Re: Using "vi" within Pine Date: 7 Jul 1995 16:14:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tjmh7$2ns@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: To anyone working on the next version of pine, perhaps it could be "fixed" so that if vi is selected as the default editor, then vi keystrokes are used =throughout= pine, including in the header/subject areas. It just seems rather awkward to keep mentally shifting from one set of editing keystrokes to another if one wishes to use vi in pine. Perhaps it is just a minor point, but after editing with vi for a while, I =always= first press x to delete instead of d. Thanks. /tn ======================================================================== Please "finger -l natkin@clark.net" for PGP public key & WWW home page ======================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 16:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08881; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13016; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:08:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13010; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:08:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUMU8-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 16:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: mailing list help Date: 7 Jul 1995 18:11:45 GMT Message-Id: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to make each message I say start with From: Commo Mailing List or similar? Thanks. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 17:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13642; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:40:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06997; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:38:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06991; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:38:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUNtA-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Krause Subject: Pine and EWAN Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 12:30:34 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . Kevin Krause /<------ Krause.4@nd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 20:47:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17670; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:47:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17977; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:44:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17971; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:44:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUQnk-00038CC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 20:35:25 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Jul7.184045.22905@scic.intel.com> Status: O X-Status: osdep.h is make as part of the build process. It looks like you do not have all of the Pine sources. Please get a new copy from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Garry Petrie wrote: > I get the following error compiling PINE on AIX3.2. Where is osdep.h? > Please respond to me at gp@ssd.intel.com > > Thanks > > >build a32 > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=a32 > echo a32 > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s ANSI systype > cd ANSI/c-client; make a32 > ANSI/c-client: No such file or directory > The error code from the last failed command is 1. > > Make Quitting. > The error code from the last failed command is 2. > > Make Quitting. > > Making Pico > > Making Pine. > Make: Do not know how to make ../c-client/osdep.h. > Check that the target is defined in the description file > and that the dependency files exist. > Quitting. > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/pine. > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/mtest. > size: 0654-304 Cannot open bin/imapd. > bin/pico: 492 + 143724 + 148 + 20356 + 1536 + 124 + 9065 + 225317 = 400762 > Done > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 7 22:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20122; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10400; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10394; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:29:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUSQl-00038EC; Fri, 7 Jul 95 22:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Subject: (no subject given) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 1995 21:56:50 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello: I've just switched over to PINE from my previous mailer, which was ELM. Does anyone have any hints on how to convert my lengthy ELM e-mail aliases file into a PINE addressbook??? Thanks. -- Srihari Gopal, MD PGY-I Univ. of Illinois College of Medicine Department of Surgery gopal@uic.edu http://rwja.umdnj.edu/~gopal/sri.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 02:31:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24894; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:31:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22472; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22466; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUVRo-00038kC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jude@omni.voicenet.com (Jude DaShiell) Subject: decoding mime attachments with pine Date: 8 Jul 1995 04:17:10 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: First is it possible inside of pine or do you have to export the message and then find a mime decoder somewhere else on the system? If it's possible to decode within pine what's the command to run on the message? -- jude From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 02:32:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24928; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:32:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12945; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12939; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:29:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUVRu-00038lC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jude@omni.voicenet.com (Jude DaShiell) Subject: kill or twit files and pine Date: 8 Jul 1995 04:17:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Are these kind of files supported in pine for permanently erasing flame throwers from your in-bound usenet newsgroup articles? If not, it's something that imho should be considered for a new feature. -- jude From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 03:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26018; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23178; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23172; Sat, 8 Jul 95 03:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUWR6-00038jC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 02:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Addressbook Date: 8 Jul 1995 03:33:51 GMT Message-Id: <3tkuav$k3a@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Richard Reichart (reichart@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: : Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook : without retyping each and every one of them? : ... Dick Reichart with the message on-screen type T which means something like 'take address' or whatever, then follow on-screen prompts (give it a 'nickname', whatever). Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:48:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01551; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26870; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26862; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUbzV-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Selecting News Groups Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 10:15:56 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Is there a way in Pine to have the ^T option used to select newsgroups return to the list of groups after subscribing to a group? Right now, it puts me back in the folder list each time I subscribe to a group and then must retrieve the newsgroup list again. Thanks Jim **************************************************************************** James M. Clark (204) 786-9313 Department of Psychology (204) 786-1824 Fax University of Winnipeg clark@uwinnipeg.ca Winnipeg, Manitoba R3B 2E9 4L02A CANADA **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:50:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01624; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:50:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26917; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26911; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUc1i-00038jC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< Message-Id: <1995Jul8.150938.4501@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:09:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 08:54:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01709; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:54:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16468; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16462; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:45:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUc1a-00038iC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: serpent@ssnet.com (Eric Lanier) Subject: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< Message-Id: <1995Jul8.150933.4443@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:09:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't subscribe to this group, thanks. Eric -- |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:03:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01864; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:03:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27080; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:59:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27074; Sat, 8 Jul 95 08:59:26 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA22012; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:59:21 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 08:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Multiple "me's" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: I would like to be able to define myself as: joe@xxx.yyy joe1@yyyy.xxz etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, and the other the sender. This shouldn't be too had for some coder out there to supply to the pine folks (I suppose I could, if my boss lets me have a little free time now and then) B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02181; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16740; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16734; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:10:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUcOh-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afr@aifbalpha (Andreas Frick) Subject: media types Date: 8 Jul 1995 15:29:57 GMT Message-Id: <3tm89l$dsf@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hello pine users! Working for few weeks with pine some questions about pine's mime support are still unanswered. First of all, where gets pine its information about media types? Mosaic and netscape use mime.types files to determine the content type. But i couldn't find out how pine does this. I created my personal .maicaps and .mimetypes file and configured netscape to use it. So now a macintosh binhex file is indentified by netscape and proper decoded by mcvert. But pine still refuses to mark a macbinary file as application/applefile when attaching a macbinary (.bin) file to a mail in pine. Second, is there any possibility to force pine to use a special encoding dependent on the type of attachment? Many thanks and best regards Andreas -- Andreas Frick | University of Karlsruhe Research Assistant | AIFB E-mail: afr@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de | D-76128 Karlsruhe Phone: ++49-721-608-4751 | Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 09:39:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02573; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:39:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27535; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:35:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27529; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:35:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUcq0-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Reichart Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Addressbook Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 11:35:17 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507080336.XAA21477@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Richard Reichart (reichart@pluto.njcc.com) wrote: > : Is there any way to import a set of email addresses into my addressbook > : without retyping each and every one of them? > : ... Dick Reichart > > with the message on-screen type T which means something like 'take > address' or whatever, then follow on-screen prompts (give it a > 'nickname', whatever). Hope this helps. G'Day. > Dear Jonathan & DearOldDad [how old? - I'm 64.5]: Thanks for the response. However, I already knew about this feature of PINE. The real answer to my question (thanks to another helpful PINE-ist) is: figure out a way to download the _list_ of names/addresses [for example, one which was included in the BODY of an email message, or one which was set up on another system] into a file which you can edit so that the form of each line is: nicknamerealnameemailaddress and then append this file to your .addressbook file. I did this fairly quickly with a list of 20 or so, altho it took a bit of workaround using my favorite DOS editor plus PICO. The real trick when using computers is to figure out how to get the system to do as much of the work as possible. Retyping email addressses is guaranteed to generate new errors. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 11:49:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05123; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18377; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:46:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18371; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:46:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUeqo-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarney@norden1.com (Peter Barney) Subject: Digesting mail? Date: 8 Jul 1995 18:24:10 GMT Message-Id: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: I can't seem to get Pine to digest a mail bundle. When I press |, it says that this key is not defined on this screen, or something to that effect. I've tried it from both the message index and when reading the actual message. Is there something that I'm missing. Please help! I don't want to have to go back to Elm! Btw, please mail your replies. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Barney | pbarney@norden1.com | Voice (419) 478-9845 | Do or do not ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 11:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05314; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:59:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29264; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:55:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29258; Sat, 8 Jul 95 11:55:55 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA06025; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 14:55:19 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 14:55:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Reply-To: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: >>>>TIMESTAMP IN PINE<<<< To: Eric Lanier Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1995Jul8.150938.4501@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try this: Packet Drivers Pine needs to be made aware of the PC's net- work configuration file. Simply edit the file WATTCP.CFG included in the Pine distri- bution. The file includes 5 configuration settings--IP-address, gateway, netmask, nameserver(s) and domainslist. If you have a network configuration file for NCSA Telnet then WATTCP.CFG is just a pared down version of the CONFIG.TEL file you already made. Take a look at CONFIG.TEL to find the correct settings for WATTCP.CFG. Once the configura- tion file is made, the DOS environment vari- able WATTCP.CFG needs to point at it. For example: set WATTCP.CFG=C:\PINE In addition to networking software issues, you might need to worry about setting the time zone. PC-Pine includes the time zone as part of outgoing email. There is a generic way for PC applications to get the time zone, but, because PC-Pine is one of a very few applications which requires this information, time zone might not be previously configured. The trick is to add an environment variable, TZ, to your PC's AUTOEXEC.BAT file. The format for the TZ environment variable is as follows: ZZZ[+H]H[:MM:SSTTT] First is the 3-letter code for your standard time, then a "+" or a "-" for direction of offset from GMT, then the amount of offset (hours, minutes, seconds) and finally the 3-letter code for your summer- or daylight savings time. Everything in [] brackets is optional. The default time zone is "PST-8PDT" (U.S. Pacific Time). Coincidentally, Microsoft is headquartered in that time zone. As an example, people in the Eastern part of the US should add this line to their AUTOEXEC.BAT files: TZ=EST-5EDT Kathy Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Eric Lanier wrote: > > Hi, what is the correct TZ variable in PINE? Please reply in email as I don't > subscribe to this group, thanks. > > Eric > > -- > |"I've heard that some people complain about the large||Still looking for;| > |eyes and small noses and mouths in Japanese manga.But||BGC B-Club Special| > |I don't see a whole lot of difference when I look at ||BGC #3-4-6 CDs | > |Disney characters." -- Shirow MASAMUNE ||GunBuster LD set | > |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| > | http://http://www.art.net/Studios/Visual/Bianchi/gallery.html | > | http://ssnet.com/~serpent/home.html Eric Lanier serpent@ssnet.com | > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 12:05:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05532; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:05:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29369; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:03:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29363; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:03:02 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id PAA06143; Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:02:51 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Multiple "me's" To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can pass parameters to Pine when starting it. An example is: pine -p file Uses the named file as the personal configuration file instaed of ~/pinerc. pine -P file will override the system configuration. pine -option=value assign value to the confg option option. Look and/or do a more or a man on .profile The first line say MAIL=user/mail$ Then check out the .pirnerc file and the variable personal-name. That should do it for you. Kathy Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > > Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an > answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: > > I would like to be able to define myself as: > > joe@xxx.yyy > joe1@yyyy.xxz > > etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not > being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, > and the other the sender. > > This shouldn't be too had for some coder out there to supply to the pine > folks (I suppose I could, if my boss lets me have a little free time now > and then) > > B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administrator, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > |+604-253-4188 | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/---------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 13:03:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06736; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:03:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00123; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00117; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUfvo-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 15:45:22 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to existing lists without having to type them in again? __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 13:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07459; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00611; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:34:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chase.times.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00605; Sat, 8 Jul 95 13:34:26 -0700 Received: by chase.times.net (Smail3.1.29.1 #2) id m0sUgWL-0002mSC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:30 EDT Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 16:30:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Rick Fonger To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Message shrank" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I sometimes get this message when trying to save mail to a specific folder other than my inbox. How can I avoid this? Rick Fonger rfonger@times.net Systems Administration 1-905-775-4471 (Voice) Times.net 1-905-775-4489 (Fax) 32 Holland St.E., Bradford, Ontario, Canada L3Z 2B8 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:24:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10458; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:24:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02771; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02765; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUjAC-00038ZC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Digesting mail? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 19:18:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tmiga$ltf@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: On 8 Jul 1995, Peter Barney wrote: | I can't seem to get Pine to digest a mail bundle. When I press |, it says | that this key is not defined on this screen, or something to that effect. | I've tried it from both the message index and when reading the actual | message. Is there something that I'm missing. | | Please help! I don't want to have to go back to Elm! From the Main Menu (provided you are using version 3.91), go into Setup / Configuration and enable-unix-pipe-command (or however it is exactly worded). This should allow you to pipe a message. I don't know about a whole folder at once (although a folder is a file in itself). Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:25:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10493; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:25:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21223; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21217; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:21:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUj9r-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: 8 Jul 1995 23:19:27 GMT Message-Id: <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Michael Pollak (mpollak@panix.com) wrote: : Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to : existing lists without having to type them in again? : Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com With the message on-screen type T to 'take address' then follow on-screen prompts like give it a nickname, etc. It will add it to your addressbook. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 16:33:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10634; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:33:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21321; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21315; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUjLW-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3tn3pv$gqs@grape.epix.net> Date: 8 Jul 1995 23:23:24 GMT Message-Id: <3tn41c$gqs@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 17:24:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11580; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:24:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03466; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:21:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03460; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:21:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUk5i-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 1995 19:52:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I like to compose some messages ofline and then do an ASCII upload of > them. When I do this in Pine (and Pico) it justifies all my paragraphs > together. Is there any way I can stop it from doing this? It takes a > lot of time to go in and separate my paragraphs and it shouldn't be > necessary. It's your communications software that's doing this to you. I have had the problem with Telix, but not with Hayes SmartCom. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 20:15:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13847; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23298; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:12:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23292; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:12:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUmm6-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) Subject: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Sat, 08 Jul 1995 14:01:29 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: To anyone knowledgeable about IMAP/POP servers: I have been using Mac Eudora successfully on POP-equipped machines for a few years now at various instututions. I have just moved to Seattle, and find that the U of Washington does not seem to support POP and uses IMAP instead. I had thought that POP was standard. I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. Any advice is greatly appreciated, feel free to email me personally. Ted Eytan Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound Seattle, WA ted1@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 8 22:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16387; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07064; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:42:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07058; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:42:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUp4I-00038WC; Sat, 8 Jul 95 22:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Law Source Subject: listserv/pine problem Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 01:19:18 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I send messages to a mailing list I subscribe to, my name doesn't appear in the index like everybody else's. Instead it says "To multiple recipients" etc. How can I fix this? Please mail any responses to the address below. Art Johnson afn19689@freenet.ufl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 01:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19098; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26170; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26164; Sun, 9 Jul 95 01:14:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUqYu-00039qC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 03:07:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199507082314.TAA01233@peach.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507082314.TAA01233@peach.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > Michael Pollak (mpollak@panix.com) wrote: > > : Is there any way to do it automatically? That is, to add new addresses to > : existing lists without having to type them in again? > : Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > With the message on-screen type T to 'take address' then follow on-screen > prompts like give it a nickname, etc. It will add it to your addressbook. > G'Day. That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 09:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27814; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:36:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00967; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:31:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00961; Sun, 9 Jul 95 09:31:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sUxqp-00039SC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: susanmay@netaxs.com (Hole Mailing List) Subject: How to forward mail? Date: 9 Jul 1995 14:38:47 GMT Message-Id: <3topln$qjf@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I configure pine to forward mail to a different email address?? ...................................... HoLe LoTTa LoVe- the Hole Mailing List Susan May- maintainer susanmay@netaxs.com ...................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 13:24:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02442; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:24:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17419; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17413; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:21:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV1MT-00039LC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 11:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chafallo Subject: Signature at bottom... Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 12:21:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have tried...God have I tried!! to put a signature at the bottom of all my messages; you know, those cute little drawings and such that appear automatically at the bottom of messages. Well... I've typed S (for set up) the C (for configuration), got to "signature at bottom" I have read and *follow* the instructions obtained by pressing help(?)...Used Pico, wrote a coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... nothing, nothing, nothing!... Could anubody please help me before I destroy my computer and modem? Thank you very much! Simply signed Chafallo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:10:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03090; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:10:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03776; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:08:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03770; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:08:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV1zS-00039TC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@rain.org Subject: Re: How to forward mail? Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:04:45 GMT Message-Id: <3tp98d$34o@news.rain.org> References: <3topln$qjf@netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: In your home directory create a file named .forward and it it put the line username@site.name Where username is your login ID for your new site and where site.name is the name of the site where your login ID is. This can be used for many mail programs. At my site the above would be accomplished by doing the following at the unix command line, while in my home directory: touch .forward edit .forward username@site.name [then save and close the file.] There are more complicated ways to do this, such as using procmail. For information regarding this type man forward from the unix prompt. Or for info on procmail type man procmail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:37:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03555; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:37:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18300; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18294; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:33:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV2UC-00039MC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 12:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Signature at bottom... Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:46:56 GMT Message-Id: <3tpbng$i9v@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Chafallo (hruiz@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote: : I have tried...God have I tried!! to put a signature at the bottom of : all my messages; you know, those cute little drawings and such that appear : automatically at the bottom of messages. Well... I've typed S (for set : up) the C (for configuration), got to "signature at bottom" I have read and : *follow* the instructions obtained by pressing help(?)...Used Pico, wrote a : coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the : file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... : nothing, nothing, nothing!... : Could anubody please help me before I destroy my computer and modem? : Thank you very much! : Simply signed : Chafallo Yup, simple ... the filename should be .signature (not signature); The . is important. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 14:44:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03708; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:44:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04147; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04141; Sun, 9 Jul 95 14:43:22 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id RAA26133; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 17:43:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 17:43:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Offline reading To: Chafallo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If anyone has an idea, I would love it. I have read and read an just seem to get deeper. I dial in from a DOS machine to a unix server (home to school). I then use pine (version 3.89) to read and write. I want to be able to dial in, collect my mail, get off and read/reply without tying up my phone line or the school's. I have read about PPP and SLP but don't know how to tell if we even have that. I have printed the Unix manual pages for mail, mailx, write, sendmail, environ and still can't find it. I have also heard the term SOUP. I do this on other BBS's using .QWK packs. It has allowed me to writed scripts to dial in at 2am and pick up/deliver mail all over. Thanks K. Neustadt kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 15:17:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04292; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:17:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04463; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:15:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04457; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:15:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV2x5-00039hC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Solo) Subject: Help! Why the debugs? Date: 9 Jul 1995 19:52:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: Anybody know how to suppress the .pine-debug# that pine keeps creating in my home directory? It makes debugs numbered 1-4, then stops. Why does it do this, and is there a way to turn it off? Thanks Mark Swartz swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 16:10:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05153; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:10:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04945; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:07:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04939; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:07:19 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id TAA27301; Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:07:15 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:07:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Help! Why the debugs? To: Solo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: According the to the Pine Documentation, there should be these four files. kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06781; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20572; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20566; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Kh-00039dC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: French version of pine? Date: 9 Jul 1995 16:02:07 -0600 Message-Id: <3tpjkv$mtk@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3tc9gq$rmj@Owl.nstn.ca> Status: O X-Status: nstn1421 (nstn1421@fox.nstn.ca) wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a French version of pine? And if so where : would one get its source? : Rick Berger Well, if it comes down to it, it wouldn't be all *that* hard to convert pine into another language. With a little help, a version could easily be made. If anyone wants a french or spanish version, I will write one. Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06808; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05891; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05885; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5K6-00039aC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: 9 Jul 1995 16:07:46 -0600 Message-Id: <3tpjvi$ocv@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: JOM (Jmeddaug@cris.com) wrote: : I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to : make each message I say start with : : From: Commo Mailing List : or similar? Thanks. There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. Terry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:41:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06842; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20556; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20550; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:39:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Hj-00039PC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Signature at bottom... Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 18:45:14 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Chafallo wrote: | Used Pico, wrote a | coouple of lines and an inspiring quote from "Don Quijote" and saved to the | file "signature", checked (again) the signature at bottom feature and... | nothing, nothing, nothing!... If you are on a Un*x system, your signature file should be named precisely ".signature", not "signature". Note the leading period. This is the default in the Un*x world. Also, it usually resides in your home directory. However, with Pine, you may go into the configuration and give your signature file another name. Check to make sure everything is in synch. Paul -------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett P. O. Box 857 Vienna, VA 22183-0857 U.S.A. Finger, keyserver, or email for PGP 2.6 public key -------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:48:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06964; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:48:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20639; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20633; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Ti-00039nC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: Re: Any known problems with pico and AIX 3.2? Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 15:08:44 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tec1b$cs4@news.paonline.com> Status: O X-Status: This is the typical linking with curses problem on AIX, just link it with termcap instead of curses and find yourself a decent termcap file and you're all set. On Wed, 5 Jul 1995, Kurt wrote: > miotto@ues7.cern.ch (Alessandro Miotto) wrote: > >I have no core or pine-debug information yet so I would like to understand > >whether similar behaviours are already known before investigating further. > > >- In another session pico kept pasting the same buffer over and over until > > it was killed by hand. The text was saved into the postponed messages > > folder, and when restarted pine asked whether the user wanted to resume > > composition. After typing "yes" the program crashed. > > > Alessandro > > I have had pine crash under AIX 3.2.0 when choosing C to compose a new > message, and also when choosing C to continue composing an interrupted > message. When it crashes, it squirts reversed question marks and > other bizzarre characters onto the terminal, then hangs. I have to > kill pine from another terminal... > > Kurt Risser > Snider Bolt, Louisville, KY USA 502 968-2250 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 17:49:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07017; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:49:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05972; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05966; Sun, 9 Jul 95 17:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5Qg-00039hC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcherson@world.std.com (David Cherson) Subject: "empty" print buffer Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 22:21:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a periodic problem in connection to printing. After I issue the (Y) print attached message command, sometimes my printer will form feed a 'blank', i.e., what seems to be an empty print buffer. Any clues? Thanks, d.c. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 18:32:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07721; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:32:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06384; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06378; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:29:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV5y7-00039TC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 16:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: summer@sojourn1.sojourn.com (Alan Summer) Subject: Signature Help Needed Date: 9 Jul 1995 23:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does not answer my question of how, to establish a signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? Is there other documentation available at the U of W that will help? Thanks Skip Summer summer@sojourn.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 20:01:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09241; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22235; Sun, 9 Jul 95 19:59:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22229; Sun, 9 Jul 95 19:59:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV7Nx-00039YC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmeddaug Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 20:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <199507091437.KAA13690@unix2.netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199507091437.KAA13690@unix2.netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: Hmmm. That'll work but mail to the list isn't addressed separately and I get normal mail in the same session. Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 20:40:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10087; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:40:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07578; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07572; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:38:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sV9Qh-00039IC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Srihari Gopal Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 14:25:48 +0000 Subject: [Q] How to set up mail aliases? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I posted a message the other day regarding converting ELM aliases to PINE addressbook. I was also wondering how to format multiple addresses into one alias on PINE. For example, I maintain a list of about 30 people whom I mail to reguarly, all located on my old ELM alias called "list1", how do I format this list into my PINE addressbook?? In ELM, I would simple do the following: list1 = list1 Srihari Gopal, MD PGY-I Univ. of Illinois College of Medicine Department of Surgery gopal@uic.edu http://rwja.umdnj.edu/~gopal/sri.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 21:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10630; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:09:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23002; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22996; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:06:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVA1A-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarney@norden1.com (Peter Barney) Subject: Digesting mail. Date: 10 Jul 1995 03:33:56 GMT Message-Id: <3tq734$pna@news1.channel1.com> Status: O X-Status: Thanks to everyone who answered my question about making the pipe command work. Now another question: When I pipe to "digest", like I was doing with Elm, imagine my surprise when the Pine view screen came back with a message that looked like _Elm's_ message index! Well, I dropped to the shell and typed "digest", and it said that I should only run it from Elm. Apparently, there are different programs for digesting with different mail readers. Could you point me to a digester for Pine? Thanks in advance! Also, please mail your replies. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Peter Barney | pbarney@norden1.com | Voice (419) 478-9845 | Do or do not ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 21:56:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11469; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:56:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08337; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:55:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08331; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:55:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVAou-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 21:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John Waters - @ring.com" Subject: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:41:20 GMT Message-Id: <3tqb1g$pg6@unix.tpe.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! Thanks ... -- ********************************************************************** Michigan's Electronic Magazine(c) http://www.ring.com/michigan.html telnet://ring.com Local access 810-698-9441 ftp://ftp.ring.com Bed & Breakfast Writer's Contest! Information in the Travel Section! *********************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 22:17:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11899; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:17:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23846; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23840; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVB7k-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Solo) Subject: Re: Help! Why the debugs? Date: 10 Jul 1995 04:30:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tqad7$gue@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <3tpc1s$h9q@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: For some reason Solo wrote: ? Anybody know how to suppress the .pine-debug# that pine keeps creating in ? my home directory? It makes debugs numbered 1-4, then stops. Why does ? it do this, and is there a way to turn it off? Thanks Thanks for all the reply's. I got it to stop making the debugs by using the -d0 switch. Thanks for the help. Mark Swartz swartz@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 9 23:03:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12737; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:03:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08971; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:00:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08965; Sun, 9 Jul 95 23:00:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVBoy-00038CC; Sun, 9 Jul 95 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald G Darby Subject: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 21:14:11 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! Gerald __^__ __^__ ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) | / | Gerald G. Darby Email: fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu | \ | | / | Training Assistant geraldd@muskox.alaska.edu | \ | | / | Division of Computing SnailMail: PO BOX 756800 | \ | | / | and Communications UAF, Alaska 99775 | \ | | / | University of Alaska Voice: 907-474-6564 Work | \ | | / | FAIRBANKS FAX: 907-474-6841 Work | \ | | / | | \ | |___| |___| (_____)------------------------------------------------------------(_____) ^ ^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 07:48:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23289; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01386; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:41:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVJpZ-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 3srf@qlink.queensu.ca (Steve Frampton) Subject: Question in Pine. Date: Sat, 01 Jul 1995 04:54:49 GMT Message-Id: <3t2kfu$k72@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello: I am posting this message on behalf of a friend. Please reply directly to him at s832816@aix2.uottawa.ca (the default if you "reply" to this message). He was wondering if there was any way to request receipt notification and/or read notification when sending a mail message using Pine. I have looked on my Pine but wasn't able to figure out how to do so (it doesn't seem to be in the rich headers). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. --< MAKE MONEY FAST!!! Contact Dave Rhodes for details. >-- Steve Frampton E-mail: <3srf@qlink.queensu.ca> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:09:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23938; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15122; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:06:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15116; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:06:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVKGe-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 14:41:40 GMT Message-Id: <3tre74$aqo@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Gerald G Darby (fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu) wrote: : DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other : than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, : and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me : personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! : Gerald I assume you mean 3.91, unless you know something I don't. The best site is http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Lottsa good stuff there. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:12:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24046; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:12:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15192; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pinky.ac.duke.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15186; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:09:09 -0700 Received: from [152.3.202.140] (mac40.ac.duke.edu [152.3.202.140]) by mail.duke.edu (8.6.10/Duke-2.0) with SMTP id LAA05351; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:09:08 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:09:12 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: Return Address Spoofing Status: O X-Status: To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by removing the text fields for a return name and address, the result being that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. Thanks in advance for any advice on this problem. --Mark Mark R. Bell Voice: 919/660-6919 Information Services Specialist, Fax: 919/684-8615 Technical Consulting Group, Email: mbell@mail.duke.edu Office of Information Technology URL: phonebk.duke.edu:8001 Duke University /markbell.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 08:17:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24231; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:17:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01944; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:13:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01938; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:13:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVKTh-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "S. Shawns S." Subject: dictionary help Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 08:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I want to know how to add words to the file that pine uses to spell check. Plus on my home PC I have Linux, it came w/ pine but it doesn't have the spell check file since it says it did a spell check but it did not find the misspelled words. Thanks, S. Shawn S. http://www.eden.com/~sshawns *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* Men are so necessarily foolish that not to be a fool is merely a varied freak of the folly. --PASCAL. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:17:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00815; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17928; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMHS-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: URGENT HELP NEEDED: problems with MIME! Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:14:47 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all! I use PINE 3.91 for mail and news. Many users asked me if i can deactivate the MIME-support, because their news-reader have problems with MIME. They always have '=20'-sequences in my messages. I don't want to take another newsreader, but then i must deactivate MIME. Who can i do that?? Help per PMail wanted! (Or Cc of your posting). ^^^^^ THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR HELPING ME! +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:18:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00848; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:18:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05003; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04997; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMHj-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ralf Wenzel Subject: Re: Signature Help Needed Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:21:21 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Jul 1995, Alan Summer wrote: > I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does > not answer my question of how, to establish a > signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? First: I'm sorry, but my english ist very bad!!!! I don't know if i really understand your question, because it seems a very simple problem (->online help). You have to save a file (name: .signature) in your home-directory. Or you choose another name and configure to the setup. Or use control+R (Read File). +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:18:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00877; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17926; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17920; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:13:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVMEH-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: Return Address Spoofing Date: 10 Jul 1995 14:37:00 GMT Message-Id: <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by removing the text fields for a return name and address in Mail Drop, the result being that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. Thanks in advance for any advice on this problem. --Mark Mark R. Bell Voice: 919/660-6919 Information Services Specialist, Fax: 919/684-8615 Technical Consulting Group, Email: mbell@mail.duke.edu Office of Information Technology URL: phonebk.duke.edu:8001 Duke University /markbell.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:20:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01011; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:20:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17991; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17985; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28780; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:15:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Krause Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Kevin Krause wrote: > I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, > but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE > recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. > It is not Pine that needs to know about the terminal you are emulating, but the Unix system you are running Pine on. Check the value of your TERM environment variable. Either ANSI or VT100 emulation should work with Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFgQ9/IU4uTDdHNAQG68gH9ELYxOQ6ubIaLkCLMC6eX8sYNSDC0vbc8 K2zAAlWD+twen2+k9hseexTarrRt69AV/7YM5pxjyFYwqfpOK/EYYA== =K0bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:28:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:28:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05235; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05229; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:40 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29201; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:23:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:23:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jude DaShiell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: kill or twit files and pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Are these kind of files supported in pine for permanently > erasing flame throwers from your in-bound > usenet newsgroup articles? > If not, it's something that imho should be > considered for a new feature. It's not there yet, but is on the list for a future release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFiFt/IU4uTDdHNAQEKEwIAlTtYfYdgE7eUfn0vLucC7BIa/j0bcxo+ yu5y5fTsQ/E7StdgyrZJ/9FqfcTlsFo7EYJa8XR/PtgDMIy+MJn+yg== =DDvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:30:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01507; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:30:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18169; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18163; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29135; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:22:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jude DaShiell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: decoding mime attachments with pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Jude DaShiell wrote: > First is it possible inside of pine or do you have > to export the message and then find a mime decoder somewhere > else on the system? If it's possible to decode within pine > what's the command to run on the message? Pine encodes and decodes MIME attachments transparently. If a message arrives with a MIME atachment, you should be able to just go to the ViewAttch screen and view/save/pipe/print the attachment(s)... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFhy9/IU4uTDdHNAQG1pgH/TMh2x1jGKmFgAwlJMjG3Ur6Ecxu7cjyH u2nq48KLMvaYjixmb3o2IhcfOOxEpnXgKT6beSMIWp68mvzW5zabbA== =HknU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:33:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01624; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:33:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05373; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05367; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:29:11 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29294; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:27:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Brian P. Hampson" Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Multiple "me's" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Sat, 8 Jul 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > Someone brought this up quite a while back, but I don't recall seeing an > answer on it from the good folks on the PINE team: > > I would like to be able to define myself as: > > joe@xxx.yyy > joe1@yyyy.xxz > > etc, so that mail addressed to these addresses gets "+", as well as not > being prompted for "reply to all recipients?" when one of them was me, > and the other the sender. > This will be available in Pine 3.92 (no, we don't have a release date yet). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFjHN/IU4uTDdHNAQEqIQH+Ll1QEdOYv1RvyNzAutqcQOEt84OV1Ygj r8gTDPQ1ubJYclhIJ9qOAOHpjhle5expoKKrMh6qCE8ql1ZZRWTWaw== =Gop5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:44:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02203; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:44:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05706; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:40:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from homer.spry.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05700; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:40:14 -0700 Received: from gort.spry.com (gort [198.185.1.40]) by homer.spry.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA04053 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:36 -0700 Received: by gort.spry.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05385; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:10 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:40:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Peterson X-Sender: pete@gort To: Pine Information Subject: Configuring pine to view MIME attachments Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I configure pine to view a MIME attachment with the following headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=XXCGW-1064791400XX Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary ... Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="HEXEDIT.TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="HEXEDIT.TXT" When I try to view the attached file, I get the following message: Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM I assume I need to configure my .mailcap file, but I'm not sure what should be added. I also assume I'll need a "base64" decoding program, where can I find one for UNIX? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Peterson Internet: pete@spry.com Senior UNIX Engineer Phone: (206) 447-0300 CompuServe Internet Division FAX: (206) 447-9004 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 10:49:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02372; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:49:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05796; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05790; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29697; Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:43:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Andreas Frick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: media types In-Reply-To: <3tm89l$dsf@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jul 1995, Andreas Frick wrote: > First of all, where gets pine its information about media types? > Mosaic and netscape use mime.types files to determine the content type. > But i couldn't find out how pine does this. I created my personal > .maicaps and .mimetypes file and configured netscape to use it. So now a macintosh > binhex file is indentified by netscape and proper decoded by mcvert. > But pine still refuses to mark a macbinary file as application/applefile when > attaching a macbinary (.bin) file to a mail in pine. > Pine currently looks at the first few bytes of an attachment to identify a few common types that it knows about. The next release of Pine will also support the .mime-types file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBUAwUBMAFmx9/IU4uTDdHNAQHNigH3ZHSxtdhDZgduY5Q3U4zvkxbnqSL0zFac AcGs9MOJQNtau8HHm3MfenhnFqE+HCetaK3oDUQcYoC0/OsITMoo =F3/h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:15:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03607; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:15:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06485; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06479; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:26 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00713; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:08:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Dan Peterson Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Configuring pine to view MIME attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Dan Peterson wrote: > How can I configure pine to view a MIME attachment with the following > headers: > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=XXCGW-1064791400XX > Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary > ... > Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="HEXEDIT.TXT" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="HEXEDIT.TXT" > > When I try to view the attached file, I get the following message: > > Don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM > > I assume I need to configure my .mailcap file, but I'm not sure what > should be added. I also assume I'll need a "base64" decoding program, > where can I find one for UNIX? > Pine takes care of the BASE64 decoding. The problem is that whatever program encoded the attachment apparently couldn't figure out what type of file it was, so it used the catch-all of Application/OCTET-STREAM. This means you will need to save it to a file and view it from outside of Pine. I suppose you could make a .mailcap entry to do something with Application/OCTET-STREAM, but be careful that whatever you invoke can deal with binary data... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAFslN/IU4uTDdHNAQF/HQIAkPOid1ktXtmy1nvF6dyy7pqpne0Du5vA JEEjentYaFTwr7AGZDwNTnXeY0PJpiI3e5+0oLWncWMPlCV3MdRz2g== =jws1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:20:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03912; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:20:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06792; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06786; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09670; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18:45 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 11:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Michael Pollak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to > add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I > want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com Pine is trying to save you a keystroke and got it wrong. If there is only one address it assumes you want to create a new simple addressbook entry instead of adding to a list. That will be fixed in 3.92. Here's a workaround. First Select the message, then instead of Taking the address try Apply Take. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 11:31:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04509; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07103; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07097; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:28:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVNPV-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: How to resume a stopped pine process? Date: 1 Jul 1995 15:56:21 GMT Message-Id: <3t3r75$mki@nexus.interealm.com> References: <3t0sqa$rmt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Status: O X-Status: James Poulakos (poulj000@orville.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE) wrote: % I must have accidentally typed control Z or control S. My pine program is % "stopped," according to the output of the ps command in UNIX, but I was % in the middle of a huge letter! % When I restart pine, I get a new process that is readonly. How can I resume % or restart the old process and get my letter back on the screen? I can't % find this in the docs or the newsgroup.... Don't you hate when that happens? The first time that happened to me I had to kill the process. I have since figured out how to get back in. When you type ctrl-Z it prints a message telling you how to get back in. Stopped. Type 'fg' to restart PINE. Try it and see if it works for you Later, Doug sfg@nexus.interealm.com -- WHICH WAY DID THEY GO? WHAT WERE THEY DOING? HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE? I NEED TO FIND THEM, I'M THEIR LEADER! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 12:26:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:26:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21023; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:22:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21015; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:22:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVOOO-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rick Bill Subject: imap shell Date: Mon, 10 Jul 95 10:16:53 PDT Message-Id: <3trdcg$k8b@news.laser.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking for a shell to use when users login to the mail server. I remember reading a post where someone mentioned imapsh. Can anyone direct me to this shell? Rick Bill rmbill@laser.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 12:36:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07734; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:36:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08638; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:32:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08632; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:32:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVOQV-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 12:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:01:38 GMT Message-Id: <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> References: <3tre74$aqo@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: jgvd@news.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) writes: >I assume you mean 3.91, unless you know something I don't. The best site >is http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/ Lottsa good stuff there. I have links to lots of Pine info, including the URL above, at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/mail+news.html Suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:09:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09496; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22270; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:05:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.njcc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22264; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:05:52 -0700 Received: (from reichart@localhost) by pluto.njcc.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA17216; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:05:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:05:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Info Subject: Grrr-rr (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: As pine-bugs's automatic response to this message (forwarded below) suggests, I'm posting this in case anyone has a thought. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 15:08:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: Pine Bugs Subject: Grrr-rr (fwd) My sysop responded to the following that it's obviously a bug in PINE and recommending that I create long messages offline and upload them. I can and of course will do this, but would be interested in whether you are working to make the "postponed messages" (or perhaps some other facility) grab anything that's active when the host is about to go down. (I'm spoiled -- APL used to do this 25 years ago!) ... Dick Reichart ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 9 Jul 1995 19:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Reichart To: [sysop] Subject: Grrr-rr I doubt if there's anything you can do about it now, but I just lost an hour's careful work on a message which I had in fact "postponed" in PINE a couple of times, when the system locked up and then dropped the carrier. When I logged back on, PINE first asked whether I wanted to continue the postponed message, than said there were no messages actually postponed. That's smoke coming out of my ears. ... Dick ======================================================================== Obviously, I can and will write lengthy messages offline henceforward -- but it's cumbersome. For one thing, altho it's not a PINE issue, when I tried downloading mail and using OLX to read/respond, I discovered that everying had also been wiped out of my PINE Inbox in the process. Does anyone know of a "canned" method for downloading/uploading messages? What I do now is very labor-intensive: Export a copy from PINE to my UNIX directory, use sz... to download it to my PC, use DOS EDIT to get it into a DOS format, then edit it with a more friendly editor (which however does not automatically add "quote" marks to quoted passages), then use rz... to upload it to UNIX and finally import it into the PINE Compose function to send if by email. Now you see why I avoided it (to my regret) in the instance reported. ... Dick Reichart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11436; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10520; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10514; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPZI-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Updating the INBOX Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:23:19 GMT Message-Id: <3trk5n$9dp@tadpole.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to make Pine update its INBOX more frequently -- or to do so immediately in response to the push of a button?? Currently, I have to quit Pine and start it again to force new mail into the Index. -- ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ + DAVID MULLANEY Email: mullaney@fc.hp.com (970) 229-7629 + + Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11663; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23128; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:41:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23122; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:41:24 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id QAA22474; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:41:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:41:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES To: Gerald G Darby Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Ok, this should help all, I think. You can get pine via anonymous ftp fron the pine directory of: ftp.cac.washington.edu DOCO http:/www/cac.washington.edu/pine http:/www/cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/pine-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs ftp://rtfm.mit/edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/pine-faq fttp:/ww/www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntroduction same as previous except /PineIntromediate same as previous except /ca_pine_guide kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On Sun, 9 Jul 1995, Gerald G Darby wrote: > DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other > than it's own help files? I'm putting together some documentation on it, > and was wondering if I could save myself some time. Please email me > personally with any results. Thanks to anyone that responds! > Gerald > > > __^__ __^__ > ( ___ )------------------------------------------------------------( ___ ) > | / | Gerald G. Darby Email: fxggd@aurora.alaska.edu | \ | > | / | Training Assistant geraldd@muskox.alaska.edu | \ | > | / | Division of Computing SnailMail: PO BOX 756800 | \ | > | / | and Communications UAF, Alaska 99775 | \ | > | / | University of Alaska Voice: 907-474-6564 Work | \ | > | / | FAIRBANKS FAX: 907-474-6841 Work | \ | > | / | | \ | > |___| |___| > (_____)------------------------------------------------------------(_____) > ^ ^ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 13:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11665; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23042; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23036; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:37:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPVt-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datkins@spam.unm.edu (Drexel Atkinson CIRT) Subject: Pine on AIX4.1 Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:09:22 GMT Message-Id: <3trjbi$ajd@lynx.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone compiled pine on aix4.1 yet. Are there any problems? How about smail on aix4.1? thanks, drex --------------- datkins@unm.edu "Into the Backing" CIRT-ACS University of New Mexico ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:01:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12536; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:01:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23446; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23440; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPr9-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michele@midget.towson.edu (Michele Decker) Subject: Re: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:15:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tru8j$nh2@news.umbc.edu> References: <3thebl$t7h@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: Glenn Leavell (glenn@dcs.uga.edu) wrote: : In the past, I've been automatically prompted on a monthly basis as to : whether or not I'd like to move my default-fcc file to a file-mmm-yyy : archive file. For the past two months, I've not received this prompt. : I've searched the Pine FAQ and the Pine configuration screen, but I can't : find anything that controls this (perhaps I'm missing something obvious). : Does anyone know what might be causing this problem? Thanks! Well, I am looking for the answer to what you are experiencing now. We would like to 'turn OFF' the monthly folder moving option - Is this possible? We are running Version 3.90 Pine on our 4.3a Ultrix machine. Michele *********************************************************************** Michele D'Anna-Decker Internet Coordinator michele@midget.towson.edu Academic Computing Department http://www.towson.edu/~michele/ Towson State University (410)830-4256 Towson, Maryland ^ ^ . . >.< O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:07:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12838; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:07:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11127; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:02:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11121; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:02:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVPvk-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 13:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Using Pine with Sendmail's userdb option Date: 10 Jul 1995 11:13:06 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to successfully use pine with unix sendmail's userdb option? Specifically, I'm using sendmail 8.6.12.1 compiled with Berkeley's USERDB option. The following is a brief desciption from the sendmail FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I rewrite my From: lines to read ``First_Last@My.Domain''? There are a couple of ways of doing this. This describes using the "user database" code. This is still experimental, and was intended for a different purpose -- however, it does work with a bit of care. It does require that you have the Berkeley "db" package installed (it won't work with DBM). First, create your input file. This should have lines like: loginname:mailname First_Last First_Last:maildrop loginname Install it in (say) /etc/userdb. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I can use this feature successfully using ELM, Mail 5.5, and by using sendmail directly. By that I mean my "From:" address is changed in all my outgoing mail based on the above rule from "loginname" to "First_Last". Yet when I use pine, this does not happen. Does anyone know what I need to do to get this to work. Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:27:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13658; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:27:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23971; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23964; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:24:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08887; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:22:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:22:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Drexel Atkinson CIRT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on AIX4.1 In-Reply-To: <3trjbi$ajd@lynx.unm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- For Pine on AIX 4.1, use the "a32" port and delete the "include(srandom.dum)" line from pine/osdep/os-a32.ic. I haven't tested it extensively, but it seems to work... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Jul 1995, Drexel Atkinson CIRT wrote: > Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:09:22 GMT > From: Drexel Atkinson CIRT > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine on AIX4.1 > > Has anyone compiled pine on aix4.1 yet. Are there any problems? How about > smail on aix4.1? > > thanks, > drex > > > > --------------- > datkins@unm.edu "Into the Backing" > CIRT-ACS University of New Mexico > ---------------------------------- > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAGaJt/IU4uTDdHNAQGenQH+J6A1SGylfAbnJh/qsN3/Y9j8gCcO/TKy ECgYvE0OnFao5yNzj2LtUBtjSvUpZJxKKhL/+6Cn2qsOP/OYa0WmNA== =AZrR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:35:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14214; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:35:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24169; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:33:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQQl-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) Subject: How do I auto bounce/forward? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 16:56:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi. I'm getting annoying e-mail from someone, and I'd like to set Pine to automatically send any e-mail sent to me from that address right back to that address. How can I accomplish this? A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T H I N K f i r s t ! What is is. Perceive it. Integrate it honestly. Act on it. Idealize it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 14:52:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15066; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:52:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12395; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:47:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12389; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:47:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQdQ-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 14:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leehen@netcom.com (Lee Henrikson) Subject: pine for hp-ux 9.x? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:37:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: I want to install pine on an HP 755 workstation running hp-ux 9.03. The hpp makefile is for 8.0. Needless to say, it doesn't compile. Any help would be appreciated. You can respond directly to me or to the list. Thanks, Lee leehen@netcom.com -- Lee From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:13:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16175; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:13:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25097; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25091; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQy5-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: PINE 3.92 WEB SITES Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:26:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ts5tq$r4d@news1.wolfe.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Gerald G Darby writes: >DOes anyone know where I can get some Documentation on PINE 3.92 other >than it's own help files? I have links to lots of Pine info, including the URL above, at: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/mail+news.html Suggestions are welcome! Thanks, Nancy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16333; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25089; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25083; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQuT-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancy@Wolfe.NET (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> Control: cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:24:19 GMT Message-Id: <3ts5q3$r4b@news1.wolfe.net> Status: O X-Status: cancel <3trtei$nuj@news1.wolfe.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 #5 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:17:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16380; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:17:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12924; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12917; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:08:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVQvi-00038HC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurt.risser@shivasys.com (Kurt) Subject: Re: Dual Edged Sword Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:44:46 GMT Message-Id: <3trvnr$l6b@news.paonline.com> References: <3spd17$mlo@news.paonline.com> Status: O X-Status: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) wrote: >You haven't given us much to go on... more details symptoms plus info on >your installation, versions, OS flavor, comm software, and usage patterns >would perhaps provide a starting point. You are right... most of my problems regarding folders, files, permissions, etc. have been solved, and they aren't PINE's fault. They were MY fault. However, PINE does ocassionally crash, squirting all manner of characters onto the terminal on its way down... But I have a more important question I would like to pose to you. It's not anything wrong with PINE, either. Is there some way to have the system notify users who are in application programs that they have received mail? Like the "write" command? Can SENDMAIL be configured to do this? Or am I out of luck altogether? aTdHvAaNnKcSe Kurt Risser From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 15:57:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18146; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13994; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13988; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRZc-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jmeddaug@cris.com (JOM) Subject: Re: mailing list help Date: 10 Jul 1995 21:38:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ts6kn$39@warp.cris.com> References: <3tjtd1$70b@warp.cris.com> <3tpjvi$ocv@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: tknab@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Terry Knab) writes: >JOM (Jmeddaug@cris.com) wrote: >: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to >: make each message I say start with >: >: From: Commo Mailing List >: or similar? Thanks. >There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using >Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. Making this more clear, regular mail goes through this mailbox too and I don't want to be changing it back and forth all the time. -- Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:10:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18791; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:10:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26171; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:03:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26165; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:03:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRhR-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 15:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbell@mail.duke.edu (Mark R. Bell) Subject: cmsg cancel <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Control: cancel <3trduc$4ud@news.duke.edu> Date: 10 Jul 1995 16:59:57 GMT Message-Id: <3trmad$7vg@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:19:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19330; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:19:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14512; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:13:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14506; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:13:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVRwY-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michele@midget.towson.edu (Michele Decker) Subject: Stop Monthly Folder Moving? Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:19:06 GMT Message-Id: <3trufa$nh2@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: We are using Pine 3.90 on our Ultrix 4.3a machine. Is there a way to turn OFF the monthly folder moving feature? Any information would be greatly appreciated, as this feature is quite annoying for many of our Pine users! Regards, Michele *********************************************************************** Michele D'Anna-Decker Internet Coordinator michele@midget.towson.edu Academic Computing Department http://www.towson.edu/~michele/ Towson State University (410)830-4256 Towson, Maryland ^ ^ . . >.< O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 16:28:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19789; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:28:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26635; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:23:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26629; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVS9m-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jkcohen@uci.edu (Jonathan K. Cohen) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 10:01:30 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. > MailDrop 1.1 from Baylor University is really the leading contender right now, although there's a commercial package called Simeon that I'd like to know more about. Mail Drop info: http://ackmo.baylor.edu/files/Mail_Drop/info.html ftp://ackmo.baylor.edu/pub/bell/Mail_Drop MailDrop-Comments@baylor.edu Simeon info: The ESYS Corporation - sales@esys.ca 402 424-4922 voice What I'd really like to see is Eudora for IMAP. No mail package for a similar context has Eudora's feature set, and any move away from Eudora seems like a step backwards -- far backwards. Are you listening, Qualcomm? (Info courtesy of Terry Gray's IMAP software resource listing at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software ) Jonathan -- Jonathan K. Cohen, Internet Projects, UCI Bookstore, Irvine, CA 92717 email: jkcohen@uci.edu; book orders: books@uci.edu; tel:(714)824-3164 UCI Bookstore World Wide Web site: http://bookweb.cwis.uci.edu:8042/ PGP Public Key: send email to key@four11.com with email address as body From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:03:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21847; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15610; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15604; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVSak-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jaya Sreedharan Subject: Size of address list Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:59:19 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there an upper limit to the number of addresses we can have in a list. One of our users is getting Bus Error. It used to work with 60 addresses, but it does not work now. No changes were made to pine. The OS was upgraded to Irix 5.3. Thanks for any help, suggestions Jaya Sreedharan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:10:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22552; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:10:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27460; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27453; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:03:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVSii-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 19:22:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3teou1$rma@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: With my Unix account, rather than use an ASCII upload, which can sometimes be unpredictable, I usually upload my file to the account, then, once I am in the composer, use the command to read the file into the message. Of course, there may still be a problem if the message was written in DOS, so a conversion utility might be needed. You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 17:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23903; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:52:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28224; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:44:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28218; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:44:51 -0700 Received: from linda.teleport.com (bsherman@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA12008 for ; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:44:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:44:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Michele Decker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Stop Monthly Folder Moving? In-Reply-To: <3trufa$nh2@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 10 Jul 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > We are using Pine 3.90 on our Ultrix 4.3a machine. Is there a way to > turn OFF the monthly folder moving feature? One way to do this would be to edit the .pinerc file of each user and modify the following line: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.7 ^^^^ Change this to 99.12 and Pine won't ask the monthly question until Jan. 2000. I have done this for several of my users and it works with Pine 3.91. -- Not everything that can be counted counts; and not everything counts that can be counted. -- A. Einstein []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] Opinions Expressed Here Are Mine. No-One Else Wants To Claim Them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24118; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28389; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28383; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVTdv-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: How to forward mail? Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:18:53 GMT Message-Id: <3tsg1d$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hole Mailing List writes in comp.mail.pine: + How do I configure pine to forward mail to a different email address?? At the % prompt in your unix account, type the following: % echo "your@other.email.address" > .forward Replace in the above the actual address you want the mail be forwarded to. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:10:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24577; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:10:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16865; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16859; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVTc5-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Return Address Spoofing Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:12:58 GMT Message-Id: <3tsfma$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Mark R. Bell writes in comp.mail.pine: + To be able to use Pine 3.91 (LAN Workplace version) in a public cluster, I + need to completely disable the ability of a user to enter a fake return + address or name. I have been able to hack a solution on the Mac side by + removing the text fields for a return name and address, the result being + that a user's e-mail has only his or her true e-mail address in the From + field in the header. Is this possible in Pine? I have looked at the + release notes, FAQ, and Web site, but with no luck. How come you have configured Pine3.91 in such a way to allow editing of the From: header in the first place ? Comment out that option in the "osdep/os-xxx.h" file in the pine src kit, and recompile. Then the option to edit the From: header will be disabled. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 18:11:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24603; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:11:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16888; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix3.panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16882; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:00:26 -0700 Received: (from mpollak@localhost) by panix3.panix.com (8.6.12/8.6.12+PanixU1.1) id VAA06394; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:00:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:00:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Pollak To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: Taking Addresses for Distribution Lists In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Steve, I can't thank you enough. Problem thoroughly solved. Michael On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > That part I know. I don't want to add them to my addressbook. I want to > > add them to distribution lists that are already in my addressbook. I > > want to be able to invoke the "Z" command inside the "T" command. > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > Pine is trying to save you a keystroke and got it wrong. If there is only > one address it assumes you want to create a new simple addressbook entry > instead of adding to a list. That will be fixed in 3.92. Here's a > workaround. First Select the message, then instead of Taking the address > try Apply Take. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > > __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 19:02:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25759; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:02:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29144; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:57:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from darwin.cc.nd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29138; Mon, 10 Jul 95 18:57:32 -0700 Received: (from kkrause@localhost) by darwin.cc.nd.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA13239; Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:57:24 -0500 Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:57:18 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Krause To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: thanks for the help. it works ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ . Kevin Krause /<------ Krause.4@nd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 19:57:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26931; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:57:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18600; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:54:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18594; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:54:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVVL7-00038CC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jorge Garcia Subject: Who are you? problem Date: 10 Jul 1995 23:58:57 GMT Message-Id: <3tses1$q6k@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to run pine from an NFS client (where the password file contains a "+" and gets the names from YP. Well, anytime I try to start pine from there, I get a message: Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) It works fine from the YP server. I tried looking through the FAC and didn't see anything related, although I was sure that this would be a FAC. So, now I'm resorting to the newsgroup. Has anybody seen this message before? How can I let pine know who I am? Please e-mail to jgarcia@cse.ucsc.edu, since I don't read this newsgroup regularly. Thanks! Jorge From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 21:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00140; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:58:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01216; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:49:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01210; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:49:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVXEC-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 21:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kieran@interport.net (Aaron Dickey) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:11:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) wrote: > How can I accomplish this? > > A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! I would like a PUBLIC reply to this, please! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 10 22:37:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01135; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:37:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21114; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:34:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21108; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:34:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVXtN-00038EC; Mon, 10 Jul 95 22:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:07:02 GMT Message-Id: <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: John Waters - @ring.com writes in comp.mail.pine: + How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find + anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the address to which you want to forward your mail. __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 00:27:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03710; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:27:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02754; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:20:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02748; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:20:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVZQ2-00038XC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: Offline reading Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 21:09:48 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 9 Jul 1995, Kathleen D. Neustadt wrote: > I dial in from a DOS machine to a unix server (home to school). I then > use pine (version 3.89) to read and write. > > I want to be able to dial in, collect my mail, get off and read/reply > without tying up my phone line or the school's. Here's what I've done to automate downloading mail to my PC for offline reading. It's a bit of a Rube Goldberg patchwork, but, hey, it works. I dial into a Unix machine (local Internet access provider) from my IBM-like PC. My communications program (Hayes Smartcom for Windows) has a script language, also it had a capture to disk function. On the Unix machine I use Pine 9.1, which has a select command plus an aggregate command function (apply the same Pine command to a set of selected messages). Since I subscribe to several listservs, I have set up a script to select and flag mail from each one and export them from my Pine Inbox to separate files in my Unix directory. I then go to the Unix shell and run a script to open my PC disk capture files and execute the Unix cat file command; as the exported mail files fly by on the screen I capture them to my hard disk. To go in reverse, I compose replys offline using the DOS edit. When I want to send them, I use the autotype function of Pine, which copies in my reply files as if I am typing them into Pine (but much faster, of course). All this may or may not apply to your situation, and you may or may not want to duplicate it. If you do and want more info, I would be glad to assist. Regards, Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 00:46:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04195; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02990; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:43:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02984; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:43:05 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA06533; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:40:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:40:12 +0200 (METDST) From: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" To: JOM Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing list help In-Reply-To: <3ts6kn$39@warp.cris.com> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Acknowledge-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: On 10 Jul 1995, JOM wrote: > >: I run a mailing list with Pine and the addressbook. Is there a way to= =20 > >: make each message I say start with=20 > >: =20 > >: From: Commo Mailing List >=20 > >: or similar? Thanks. >=20 > >There is a simple way to do this. Just set your personal name using=20 > >Pine's config feature. just set it to Commo Mailing list. >=20 > Making this more clear, regular mail goes through this mailbox too and I= =20 > don't want to be changing it back and forth all the time. So have two configuration files (.pinerc and for instance .mail-list and for mailing list, start the pine with `-p $HOME/.mail-list' option. | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz ftp.utia.cas.cz http://www.utia.cas.cz/user_data/vs/vs-home-{en|cz|ce}.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 01:06:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04772; Tue, 11 Jul 95 01:06:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23008; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:59:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23002; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:59:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVa6N-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 00:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szoltek@turtle.gmu.edu (S. M. Zoltek) Subject: Printing using PROCOMM for Windows 2.1 or later Date: 9 Jul 1995 09:49:05 GMT Message-Id: <3to8mh$cpr@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: A freind has asked me to enquire if anyone has encountered problems printing when logging in over a modem and using pine to read mail. Specifically, they have successfully useed PROCOMM for DOS to use pine to read and print mail, but have not been able to do the same with PROCOMM for windows, version 2.1 or higher -- I think I Have the version number correct. Of course they have selected "attached-to-ainsi." -- -- smz +==================================================================+ | Dr. S. M. Zoltek, PAGE Associate Director | | US MAIL: Department of Mathematical Sciences | | George Mason University, Fairfax, VA 22030 | | PHONE: 703-993-1468 OFFICE: S&T I, Rm 226A FAX: 703-993-1491 | | EMAIL: (INTERNET) szoltek@gmu.edu (COMPUSERVE) 76044,2230 | +==================================================================+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 02:39:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06752; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:39:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04249; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:30:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04243; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:30:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVbTD-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neutrino@annex.com (DANIEL PRINCE) Subject: Re: How do I stop Pine from justifing ASCII uploads? Date: 10 Jul 1995 19:34:08 GMT Message-Id: <3trvbg$gl7@news.annex.com> References: <3t52am$jp0@news.annex.com> <3ti4u5$13iv@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Jim LeBay (lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu) wrote: : I've also found another way to reproduce this bug, for those of you who : aren't lucky enough to use NextStep. Use any(?) IBM-PC vt100 terminal : emulation program, login to your UNIX box, run Pine or Pico, and do an : ASCII upload of a UNIX-format text file. I.e. text lines separated only : by a single line-feed (0x0a), rather than DOS's normal CR-LF. I discovered that it is the line feeds that are the problem. Pico uses control "J" for justify and control "J" is (0x0a) the same as a line feed. If you don't want Pico to justify what you upload you have to not send any line feeds. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 03:13:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07485; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:13:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24678; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:05:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24672; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:05:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVc6d-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 02:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guido Bunsen Subject: help needed with imapd 3.6BETA on Solaris 2.4 Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:33:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ttggt$9db@news.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello, we compiled imapd 3.6 BETA on a sun with solaris 2.4. It is possible to read the mailbox. But when the mailbox (/var/mail/user) on the server has to be written to disk after usage the mailbox content gets garbled. We believe that the Problem is in the routine bezerk_write_message in the file c-client/bezerk.c. We believe that the writev systemcall causes the problem. We get the following messages: Jul 11 10:24:23 harry imapd[17064]: Retrying after disk error user=testuser host=arielle.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE mbx=/var/mail/testuser: Invalid argument Is this a known problem? Are there bug-fixes, workarounds or patches? Sincerely, Guido Bunsen -- Guido Bunsen, Rechnerbetrieb Informatik, RWTH Aachen, 52056 Aachen Tel: +49/241/80-21031 / FAX: +49/241/8888-216 WWW:http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~guido/ Email: guido@informatik.rwth-aachen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 03:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08105; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04818; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:30:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04812; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:30:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVcYY-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@tecoma.mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Address Book Zero'd Out ???? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 00:59:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: I was doing some sysadm chores as root today and executed a "rm *" while I was in /var/mail. :-( However I was surprised to find that the .addressbook files for all users were zeroed out! Is that a function of pine or ??? Pete From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 04:38:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09673; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:38:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25974; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:30:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25968; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:30:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVdTw-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 04:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kirsten Richards Subject: pine on vax problem Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 17:55:06 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have accounts on two systems which offer pine. On my unix system, pine works beautifully and always has. However, pine was recently installed on my vax system and I'm having problems with the newsreader (same remote newserver I use from the unix system). Specifically, it won't let me purge out the messages I've read with the 'D' key. I've noticed some other differences between pines on each system (such as fcc), and I'm wondering if 'deleting' unwanted posts just isn't an option on the vax, if I have something set up wrong, or if something is set up wrong system-wide (a co-worker has the same problem). My system administrators will not deal with newsgroup related questions, only mail. Any ideas? Thanks, K. Richards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 05:48:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11326; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:48:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06181; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:35:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06175; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:35:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVeV7-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 05:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cd102@phy.cam.ac.uk (Cyrus Daboo) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - Here's a new one! Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:15:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ttq1t$ekt@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've been developing an IMAP client for the Macintosh called Mulberry. Its currently very close to completion. Its being beta tested by a number of people in the UK, but I'd quite like to have a few international beta testers as well, so if you'd like to test it please email me: Cyrus Daboo Features include: -Full drag & drop support for messages - you can drag messages between mailboxes to copy them etc., or drag to the Finder to create a clipping file. -Can open multiple mailbox windows. -Mailbox windows are fully configurable - you can choose which information to have displayed (e.g. message size, message sender, subject etc). -Outgoing mail can be automatically recorded in any mailbox. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:36:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12542; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:36:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27505; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27499; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfLB-00038LC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Moshe Segal Subject: Re: ASCII upload problem Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 20:45:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3thg2o$7ek@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 Jul 1995, DANIEL PRINCE wrote: > I finally figured out why Pico was justifying everything I ASCII > uploaded. It was because Telix was sending a CR LF at the end of each > line. LF is the same as control J which is the command Pico uses for > justify. One I told Telix to strip linefeeds everything worked correctly. > > Makes sense. obviously Telix is a DOS program, and left to itself, it would conform to DOS conventions and put a CR and LF at the end of each line. I have had similar problems when uploading mail with Commo, the com program I use. I still say uploading and reading into the message is much easier, but I guess each one has its merits. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:37:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12619; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:37:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27396; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27390; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:27:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfFi-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) Subject: Build problems on Solaris 2.4 Date: 11 Jul 1995 09:07:03 -0400 Message-Id: <3ttt1n$ali@w8hd2.w8hd.org> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone built Pine3.91 on Solaris 2.4 ? There are some problems with the makefile.sol, if anyone has worked around these I would be very interested in hearing from you. The origonal makefile.sol was for solaris 2.2 which, in the comments, mentions it has /usr/ucb/cc which Solaris 2.4 does not appear to have. Any help here is greatly appreciated. kim -- - kimc@w8hd.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 06:39:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12679; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06754; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06748; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:30:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVfJs-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) Subject: Re: IMAP Client for Mac - {Eudora?} Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 14:15:54 -0400 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: ted@itsa.ucsf.edu (Ted Eytan) wrote: > I am seeking advice on a good IMAP client (ideally, a Eudora-esque, or > even an IMAP-Eudora) and any information about IMAP vs. POP. I have > investigated Mailstrom which seems pretty antiquated (the U distributes v. > 1.05), and pine causes me to use up too much time over dialup lines. Check out http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/email/clients-IMAP.html for a list of IMAP clients. I've been a big fan of Eudora, but have started using MailDrop, and while it's not as "featureful" as Eurodra, it seems to work well enough. A new entry in the field seems to be a commercial program called Simeon, which I have no experience with. They have their own WWW site (pointed to from the page cited above), but it's pretty useless as far as information content goes, and is pretty high on my list of "most badly designed WWW pages I've ever seen" :-) -- Roy Smith Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202 NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016 "This never happened to Bart Simpson." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 07:12:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13516; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:12:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07154; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07148; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:01:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVflx-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 06:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: monthly moving of default-fcc stopped Date: 10 Jul 1995 23:59:48 GMT Message-Id: <3tsetl$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michele Decker writes in comp.mail.pine: + Well, I am looking for the answer to what you are experiencing now. We + would like to 'turn OFF' the monthly folder moving option - Is this + possible? We are running Version 3.90 Pine on our 4.3a Ultrix machine. Look in your $HOME/.pinerc for the line below. Make the 95.7 to 99.9 and then you won't be prompted till October 1999. What happens in 2000 AD if you must ask, well 3.92 will be out by then. :))))) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.7 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 07:26:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13801; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:26:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28249; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28243; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:15:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVg4d-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: "Message shrank" Date: 11 Jul 1995 00:41:59 GMT Message-Id: <3tshcn$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Rick Fonger writes in comp.mail.pine: + I sometimes get this message when trying to save mail to a specific + folder other than my inbox. How can I avoid this? Are you using a POP mailclient (Eudora?) as well as Pine at the same time? When you are using Pine to read mail from your inbox, if there's a POP connection to your mailbox from your POP client, then it will extract mail from your INBOX prompting Pine to notify you about "Message Shrank" -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 08:04:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14919; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07812; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07806; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVgZi-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 07:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: owner and group of pine folders Date: 11 Jul 1995 01:05:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tsios$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Haven't you tried using the superkewl 'imap' for this? Comments ? Nancy McGough writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have a couple accounts on one system and I'd like to be able + to access the mail folders in both these accounts using pine + running on one of the accounts. When the folder is owned + by the userid that's running the pine process, there's no problem. + But if the folder is owned by another userid, pine is not able + to open the folder, even if it has the same group as the userid + running the process and has 660 permission, e.g.: + -rw-rw---- 1 nancym mcgough blah blah blah folder1 + -rw-rw---- 1 ii mcgough blah blah blah folder2 + I'm able to look at both folder1 and folder2 using less or more + but if I'm logged in as nancym and try to open folder2 using pine + I get this message: + [Not a folder: folder2] + It would be great if the next release of pine would let me open + a folder like this, but if you don't allow that it would be good + to give a more informative error message, e.g. "Not owned by you." + Thanks, + Nancy -- -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 08:35:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16146; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:35:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29456; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:21:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bob.Wittenberg.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29448; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:21:40 -0700 Received: (from wcox@localhost) by bob.Wittenberg.EDU (8.6.11/bob-950321) id PAA15545; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 15:33:45 GMT Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:33:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Cox To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Assistance w. Pine prob on AIX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi All! I'm new to setting up Pine (3.91), and have run into a problem getting it to work on my RS/6000 AIX 3 system. If the INBOX folder is empty when Pine is started, and Compose is selected from the main menu or the folder list, then Pine hangs in the compose screen with the cursor positioned on the "To:" field. The hang does not occur if the user views any folder index before attempting to Compose a message, or if the INBOX has at least one message. This same problem occurs in the executable I built, and in the pre-compiled one from U.W. (pine-bin.a32). One hitch here is I'm still on an older 3.0 something AIX. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Please reply directly, I'm not on this list yet. -Wayne Cox wcox@bob.wittenberg.edu ---559023410-1903590565-805059108=:5733-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:01:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17343; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00238; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00232; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:51:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVhXk-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steved@panix.com (Steve Dambrowski) Subject: Please help! MIME attachment & Postpone problem Date: 10 Jul 1995 22:26:21 -0400 Message-Id: <3tsngd$apk@panix3.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: I have two problems. First the easy one. Postpone does not seem to be working, and it's a pain when I have cancel the message if I can't finish it for some reason. Do I need to set a flag in the config area or something to turn this on? Second problem.. I use two internet accounts, and for a while, I would email a file via Pine's attachment feature from one account to the other and then d/l from the other site. Well, what happened was I uqwk'ed my mailbox before I separated the attachment. So what I have is a plain ascii text file of the message w/ the attachment. Is there anyway I can recover the file? I tried just importing the msg, but that didn't work. Although it's not anything vital, it would be nice to have it. :) STEve -- "I could be mistaken. Maybe it was another bald-headed jigsaw puzzle tattooed naked guy I saw." - Agent Fox Mulder, The X-Files. steved@panix.com S.DAMBROWSKI@genie.geis.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:02:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17442; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:02:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09021; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09015; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVhdm-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 08:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkearney@access1.digex.net (Bill Kearney) Subject: pico termcap problems? Date: 11 Jul 1995 15:48:31 GMT Message-Id: <3tu6gf$4k7@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: This is a strange one. I've got this Northern Telecom DisplayPhone terminal I've been using as a console on a Sun 3/60. It works fine except for pico and rarely pine. The terminal seems to be getting sent some bogus ESC commands and it's flipping into a memory dump mode. This causes the terminal to start spewing quite a bit of info to the Sun. Of course, pico starts seeing this and responds with MORE garbage. Eventually, the Sun gets sick of this crap and hangs the terminal. Since this is the console, pandemonium ensues. Needless to say, I don't run pico on the console. I want to make this work. I think it has something to do with the termcap entry for the terminal. I think pine behaves itself becauses it accepts the xon-xoff stuff via the config settings. pico doesn't seem to follow this. Perhaps that's the problem? It's very likely this is some sort of terminal over-run issue. Any and all suggestions are welcome, e-mail reponses preferred. Thanks! Bill -- | Bill Kearney | wkearney@access.digex.net | copyright 1995 | Butler, MD | http://access.digex.net/~wkearney/ | W.G.Kearney | 410-239-0060 | ftp://ftp.digex.net/pub/access/wkearney | This random quote brought to you by the fortune program: Yes, but every time I try to see things your way, I get a headache. All I ask of life is a constant and exaggerated sense of my own importance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 09:50:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20334; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:50:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10266; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:46:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10260; Tue, 11 Jul 95 09:46:04 -0700 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id LAA01488; Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:45:58 -0500 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199507111645.LAA01488@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Subject: Re: pico termcap problems? To: wkearney@access1.digex.net (Bill Kearney) Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 11:45:57 -0500 (CDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3tu6gf$4k7@news3.digex.net> from "Bill Kearney" at Jul 11, 95 03:48:31 pm Word-Of-The-Day: devotee X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23beta2] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3800 Status: O X-Status: >From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 11:33:54 1995 > >This is a strange one. I've got this Northern Telecom DisplayPhone >terminal I've been using as a console on a Sun 3/60. It works fine >except for pico and rarely pine. > >The terminal seems to be getting sent some bogus ESC commands and it's >flipping into a memory dump mode. This causes the terminal to start >spewing quite a bit of info to the Sun. Of course, pico starts seeing >this and responds with MORE garbage. Eventually, the Sun gets sick of >this crap and hangs the terminal. Since this is the console, pandemonium >ensues. Needless to say, I don't run pico on the console. > >I want to make this work. I think it has something to do with the >termcap entry for the terminal. > >I think pine behaves itself becauses it accepts the xon-xoff stuff via >the config settings. pico doesn't seem to follow this. Perhaps that's >the problem? > >It's very likely this is some sort of terminal over-run issue. > >Any and all suggestions are welcome, e-mail reponses preferred. > We had a problem with some wyze-30 terminals that use magic cookies to emulate stuff like reverse video I think. Anyways, pico tried to do this on a per character basis instead of per field, and extra spaces wound up in the strings, causing line wraps and what not. here are the diffs: *** display.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:10:06 1995 --- display.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 2142,2154 **** buf++; (*term.t_rev)(1); pputc(*buf, 1); - (*term.t_rev)(0); } else{ pputc(*buf, 0); } } while(*++buf != '\0'); peeol(); (*term.t_flush)(); } --- 2142,2155 ---- buf++; (*term.t_rev)(1); pputc(*buf, 1); } else{ + (*term.t_rev)(0); pputc(*buf, 0); } } while(*++buf != '\0'); + (*term.t_rev)(0); peeol(); (*term.t_flush)(); } *************** *** 2166,2171 **** --- 2167,2173 ---- { char *obufp, *p, fkey[4], linebuf[NLINE]; int row, slot, tspace, nspace[6], index, n; + extern int SG; /* * Calculate amount of space for the names column by column... *************** *** 2214,2219 **** --- 2216,2222 ---- *obufp++ = *p++; } + n -= SG; while(n-- > 0) *obufp++ = ' '; *************** *** 2222,2227 **** --- 2225,2231 ---- while(p && *p && n-- > 0) *obufp++ = *p++; + n -= SG; while(n-- > 0) *obufp++ = ' '; } *** tcap.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:09:52 1995 --- tcap.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 79,84 **** --- 79,85 ---- #define TCAPSLEN 315 char tcapbuf[TCAPSLEN]; char *UP, PC, *CM, *CE, *CL, *SO, *SE; + int SG; /* * PICO extentions */ *************** *** 166,171 **** --- 167,174 ---- CE = tgetstr("ce", &p); UP = tgetstr("up", &p); SE = tgetstr("se", &p); + SG = tgetnum("sg"); + if (SG < 0) SG = 0; SO = tgetstr("so", &p); DL = tgetstr("dl", &p); AL = tgetstr("al", &p); *** tinfo.c.orig Wed Jun 21 14:09:59 1995 --- tinfo.c Wed Jun 21 14:10:35 1995 *************** *** 82,87 **** --- 82,88 ---- static int putpad(); static char *UP, PC, *CM, *CE, *CL, *SO, *SE; + static int SG; /* * PICO extentions */ *************** *** 162,167 **** --- 163,170 ---- CE = tigetstr("el"); UP = tigetstr("cuu1"); SE = tigetstr("rmso"); + SG = tigetnum("xmc"); + if (SG < 0) SG = 0; SO = tigetstr("smso"); DL = tigetstr("dl1"); AL = tigetstr("il1"); -- Dave Rasmussen - Information & Media Technologies (ex-CSD) Client Services Internet: dave@csd.uwm.edu Phone: 414-229-5133 2m HAM Radio: N9REJ USmail: Box 413 Bol213, Milwaukee, WI 53201 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 10:54:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22661; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:54:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02973; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:46:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02966; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:46:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07992; Tue, 11 Jul 95 10:45:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 10:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jaya Sreedharan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Size of address list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Mon, 10 Jul 1995, Jaya Sreedharan wrote: > Is there an upper limit to the number of addresses we can have in a > list. One of our users is getting Bus Error. It used to work with 60 > addresses, but it does not work now. No changes were made to pine. > The OS was upgraded to Irix 5.3. > The "Bus Error" is probably coming from sendmail rather than Pine. You might try setting "smtp-server" in the Setup/Config screen. Sometimes sendmail will work better when invoked that way, or you can use a different server entirely... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAK4z9/IU4uTDdHNAQEg9AH+NSD8jEdv7v1RnttaiThjCzghtv2CtLRD c6VjeLePMELL/Y8fY3M0HNudaAwzQ9WKi4fCc5Kje7FV7RfdEQoa0w== =HTs9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 12:16:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26393; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:16:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12903; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:06:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12897; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:06:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVkZC-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kadokev@msg.net Subject: ELM patches: IMAP, RELM Date: 11 Jul 1995 15:29:27 GMT Message-Id: <3tu5cn$ha3@newdelph.cig.mot.com> References: <3trs71$90d@newdelph.cig.mot.com> Status: O X-Status: Wolfgang Friebel sent me mail about an available IMAP patch for Elm. It links against the C-Client code in the PINE distribution, and is available as: patch only ftp.ifh.de:/pub/ftp/unix/mail/elm_imap.patch.tar.gz ELM with patch applied ftp.ifh.de:/pub/ftp/unix/mail/elm_imap-2.4.24.tar.gz Perhaps this can be incorporated into Elm 2.5? On a related subject, I have hacked on Elm 2.4pl23 to provide reasonably secure behavior when run as "relm" instead of "elm". If there's a chance that these changes could be incorporated into 2.5 (they're really pretty minor, just adds a global 'restricted' variable and wraps several blocks with if(!restricted) { ... }) then I'll take the time to make a patch file and post/mail it.] When run as "relm" it has the following slightly unconventional behavior: * reads global configuration from relmrc instead of elmrc * Does NOT create/use a personal elmrc or .elm directory, and thus users running "relm" can't change/save the configuration. * Does allow users to save messages to files, most administrators would probably want to disable this- make it a config. option? * Change folder is disabled since the command allows shell escapes * all pipe/shell and external viewer commands are disabled I'm sorry, but I don't have the time to clean it up and make patches for a few people, but I'm willing to put in the time for changes that can be incorporated in the next release. -- Kevin Kadow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 12:19:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26606; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:19:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13076; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:14:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from deathstar.cris.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13070; Tue, 11 Jul 95 12:14:18 -0700 Received: from voyager.cris.com by deathstar.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 15:08:01 -0400 (EDT) From: jmeddaug To: "Vladimir Solnicky (=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Vladim=EDr_Solnick=FD?=)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mailing list help In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: That might work. I'll do it. Thanks. Write for info about the Commo Mailing J.J. Meddaugh, Email: jmeddaug@cris.com list and Commo Music Player. Join alt.comp.blind-users today! Got any game shows on video? Write me. Check out the fun at Michi-Web: Author of the TC BBS List for Mid-Mich. http://www.cris.com/~jmeddaug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 15:01:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04468; Tue, 11 Jul 95 15:01:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08813; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:56:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08807; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:56:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVnBG-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 14:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Message-Id: <173D899BES86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 09:55:57 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3tsfb6$41l@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> shrim@bubba.temple.edu (The Shriminator) writes: >John Waters - @ring.com writes in comp.mail.pine: > + How can we set pine to forward mail to a different address? Can't find > + anything in the online docs. ..... unless we are really just missing it! > >Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the >address to which you want to forward your mail. Half right. PINE itself does not handle automatic mail forwarding. PINE is only the program that you, as a user, run in order to get access to mail (it's a "user agent" in the jargon). The .forward file is handled by your computer's mail system (typically "sendmail"), not by PINE. That's why you won't find much about it in PINE's documentation. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 17:51:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12712; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:51:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20301; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:47:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20295; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:47:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVps1-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 17:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Bennett Subject: Listserve messages w. pine Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:54:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to get a list of all the messages a listserve gets in a given day? Or better yet, all the messages it gets from a particular person in one given day? Please CC to my e-mail address, as I don't have the opportunity to read this newsgroup as much as I should. Thanks in advance for your help. Charlie Bennett char@grfn.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 19:11:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14548; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:11:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14062; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:07:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14056; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:07:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVr9G-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Assistance w. Pine prob on AIX Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:31:51 GMT Message-Id: <3tv8m7$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Wayne Cox writes in comp.mail.pine: + If the INBOX folder is empty when Pine is started, and Compose is selected + from the main menu or the folder list, then Pine hangs in the compose + screen with the cursor positioned on the "To:" field. What if you do type in an address at the To: field ? + The hang does not occur if the user views any folder index before + attempting to Compose a message, or if the INBOX has at least one message. + This same problem occurs in the executable I built, and in the + pre-compiled one from U.W. (pine-bin.a32). One hitch here is I'm still on + an older 3.0 something AIX. 3.0 is buggy..... upgrade! -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 19:25:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14898; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:25:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21455; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:22:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21449; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:22:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVrLQ-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 19:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: Please help! MIME attachment & Postpone problem Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:45:16 GMT Message-Id: <3tv9fc$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Steve Dambrowski writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have two problems. First the easy one. Postpone does not seem to be + working, and it's a pain when I have cancel the message if I can't finish + it for some reason. Do I need to set a flag in the config area or + something to turn this on? Check in the default folder for postponed messages (postponed-msgs) to see if you really have your postponed messages listed in there. If not you might want to see if you have a file called ".pine-interrupted*" file in your home dir. If you do find them, then delete them. Things should get back to normal after that. + Second problem.. I use two internet accounts, and for a while, I would + email a file via Pine's attachment feature from one account to the other + and then d/l from the other site. Well, what happened was I uqwk'ed my + mailbox before I separated the attachment. So what I have is a plain + ascii text file of the message w/ the attachment. Is there anyway I can + recover the file? I tried just importing the msg, but that didn't work. + Although it's not anything vital, it would be nice to have it. :) Check in to see if you still have a copy of the original mail in your sent-mail folder within the account you sent the mail from. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:40:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16950; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15568; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15562; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsad-00038HC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: Procmail Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:24:14 GMT Message-Id: <3tvf8u$blt@marina.cinenet.net> Status: O X-Status: Aladdin Khamis (khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il) wrote: Can somebody send me a sample copy for .procmailrc, that I can use under pine to do mail filtering ? Thankx > |\/\/\/| > | | > | | > | (o)(o) > C. __) > | \___| > | / > /____\ > / \ > / \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:40:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16985; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15576; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15570; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsaW-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <3tvf3o$blt@marina.cinenet.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access5.digex.net) wrote: : Mark Swearingen (mark@ephesus.com) wrote: : : harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: : : I understand your concern re: deceptive e-mail and the problems it presents you : : as a system administrator. It was certainly not my intent to encourage : : forgery. However, for people who have more than one address at which they can : : receive e-mail, it would be convenient to set the return address at one : : location to the other address, so that all return mail came to one location. : : Thus, there is a "legitimate" use for such a feature. In this case, there is a customizable header line in your Pine config area, put "Reply-To: " and the desired email address, that'll do it for you. : : To get back to my original question, it would appear from your response that : : Pine does not have a configuration option for setting the username on the : : return address. Thank you for that information. : You can, you just have to recompile the source to allow the From: and : Sender: headers to change. Default is to not allow those to be changed. How do you do this? I am also interested... : Then you have to add them to the set of optional headers. -- ||||||||||||email address: starrd@iia2.org or starrd@cinenet.net||||||||||| | Creator of the original | Get paid to upload | | Patriot's Archives \ shareware to BBSes and | | ftp: iia.org /pub/users/patriot \_____ the Internet! | | ftp: wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/msdos_uploads/patriot\ Get file: | | For index of available files: descript.ion \ uploader.zip | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:41:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17017; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:41:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22523; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22517; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsal-00038IC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: starrd@cinenet.net (David W Starr) Subject: Re: how to define username ??? Date: 12 Jul 1995 03:32:35 GMT Message-Id: <3tvfoj$blt@marina.cinenet.net> References: <3p8at2$n0c@news3.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access5.digex.net) wrote: : ecramer (root@luna.nl) wrote: : : I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, : : there is one thing I can't figure out. : : How to change the left-hand side from my header. : : It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible : : to set another username. : : The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired : : username to my system and start pine beeing that user. : : Can anybody help me :-( : See if you can add 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' as one of the headers, in either : of the parameters of default-composer-hdrs or customized-hdrs : If you can't, then you have to recompile the source to Pine: : 1. add the following : #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM : in file ./pine/osdep/os-xxx.h : where xxx is the 3-letter code for your machine : 2. make pine : 3. bring it up, and add the 'From: ecramer@luna.nl' field to the : two items What if you are just a user w/o root or priv access? -- ||||||||||||email address: starrd@iia2.org or starrd@cinenet.net||||||||||| | Creator of the original | Get paid to upload | | Patriot's Archives \ shareware to BBSes and | | ftp: iia.org /pub/users/patriot \_____ the Internet! | | ftp: wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/msdos_uploads/patriot\ Get file: | | For index of available files: descript.ion \ uploader.zip | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 20:45:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17136; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:45:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22593; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22587; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:42:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVsed-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: think1st@netcom.com (THINKfirst!) Subject: Re: How do I auto bounce/forward? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:58:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Yes, indeed! I would like a PUBLIC reply to it as well, but I would prefer an e-mail reply (both would be ideal). Thanks! Aaron Dickey (kieran@interport.net) wrote: : In article , think1st@netcom.com : (THINKfirst!) wrote: : > How can I accomplish this? : > : > A reply via e-mail would be preferred. THANKS!!! : I would like a PUBLIC reply to this, please! -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- T H I N K f i r s t ! What is is. Perceive it. Integrate it honestly. Act on it. Idealize it. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 21:03:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17509; Tue, 11 Jul 95 21:03:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15820; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15814; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:57:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVssb-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Spivak Subject: attaching a file Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 22:52:56 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This may seem like a stupid question but: how to you attach a file to a message? Please send all replies to my mailbox. Thank you. spivak@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 22:21:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19405; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:21:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23767; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23761; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:18:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVu86-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: Pine and EWAN Date: Wed, 12 Jul 95 03:45:15 GMT Message-Id: <3tvggb$k54_001@news.cris.com> References: Status: O X-Status: >On Fri, 7 Jul 1995, Kevin Krause wrote: > >> I want to use PINE with the windows' EWAN terminal emulator, >> but of EWAN's 3 configuration options (VT100, VT52, and ANSI) PINE >> recognizes none. Is there a way to make these two programs run together. Go to Edit Configuration dialog box. Click on Emul. Options and change the value "Emulation name" from "DEC-VT100" to "vt100". Some UNIX system won't recognize the "DEC-VT100" terminal type. Supak Lailert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 23:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20225; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17635; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17629; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVuhT-00038EC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Address Book Zero'd Out ???? Date: 12 Jul 1995 05:39:02 GMT Message-Id: <3tvn5m$sr8@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Pete Holsberg (pjh@tecoma.mccc.edu) wrote: : I was doing some sysadm chores as root today and executed a : "rm *" while I was in /var/mail. :-( : However I was surprised to find that the .addressbook files : for all users were zeroed out! Is that a function of pine : or ??? Hhmmmm ... My guess is you were not in PINE you were in unix, and rm filename means remove that filename and rm * means remove all files in the directory. There's one possible hope for recovery; The rm command does not actually delete the file, it removes the link to the file. Removing a link (or in your case a whole bunch of links) is not really the same thing as deleting a file (as in DOS). Bad news: Now DOS has an undelete command, but unix doesna have an unremove command. Good news: Removing a link is not really the same as deleting, there may be more than one link to the file(s), and unix will not delete the actual file until the last link is removed. Bad news: In most cases (and probably in yours) there is only one link to a file, so removing this link deletes the file. I'm gonna cross-post this to a unix comp group, and maybe someone else can help you out, 'cause that's the extent of my knowledge, and maybe someone else can take this further. Hope this helps. G'Day. /\ /~~\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\/\ \/\/ / \/ \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\| Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH /_/__\/_/___/_/\/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|__ m j x From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 11 23:06:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20379; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:06:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24220; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24212; Tue, 11 Jul 95 23:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVuo3-00038CC; Tue, 11 Jul 95 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Re: {Q} Can pine be set to forward mail? Date: 12 Jul 1995 01:14:35 GMT Message-Id: <3tv7lr$q4@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Half Right ? Err....Ummm.... where did I say Pine does the forwarding ? I just didn't elaborate on the differences between MTA and MUA as all that is explained very clearly in the FAQ's posted here frequently. Alan J Flavell writes in comp.mail.pine: + >Yes. Just create a ".forward" file in your account and include in it the + >address to which you want to forward your mail. + + Half right. PINE itself does not handle automatic mail forwarding. + PINE is only the program that you, as a user, run in order to get + access to mail (it's a "user agent" in the jargon). + + The .forward file is handled by your computer's mail system + (typically "sendmail"), not by PINE. That's why you won't find + much about it in PINE's documentation. -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 01:08:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23428; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:08:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19392; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19386; Wed, 12 Jul 95 01:03:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVwUH-00038RC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 00:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu Subject: Pine for windows..where? Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:21:28 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi. I haven't been able to locate an ftp site for pine/windows using archie, looking at this newsgroup or using the search facility at cac.washington. ANy kind person knows where it is? Thanks in advance!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 02:55:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25762; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:55:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26641; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26635; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:41:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVy5a-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 02:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M. Crane" Subject: setting the REgion in Usenet Date: Tue, 11 Jul 1995 19:41:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I set the distribution of messages in Usenet when I'm within Pine? I have some want ads that I don't want tto end up in Australia. Can the Pine wizards respond to my address as well as here? (picky..huh?) Thank you, virtual lumberjacks. mark crane From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 04:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28188; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:15:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22074; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:08:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22068; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:08:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sVzcI-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Icewolf Subject: PINE and AIX/386 1.2? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:06:15 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello friends, I know, AIX 1.2 is really old, but it is running here (maybe for years ...sniff!). So, is it possible to get Pine running on this old 386 IBM PS/2? Thanks in advance Ciao Holger From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 04:34:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28683; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:34:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27905; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:28:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27899; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:28:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:24:37 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id MAA29882; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:30:13 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:30:10 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "M. Crane" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: setting the REgion in Usenet In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Usenet News articles can be restricted to particular collections of news servers by including and setting a header line in your article of the form: Distribution: identifier Note that you can't just pick any old thing for "identifier". Basically it must be something that your (and other, if appropriate) news servers understand. For example most news servers understand not to pass "local" articles beyond your own site. Similarly "world" (the default if the header is omitted) go everywhere. However whether a news server decides to pass on your article depends upon it recognising the identifier, and being configured appropriately. So you need to persuade Pine to allow you to include an additional "Distribution:" header when you compose a message/article. This is achieved in the same way as for other headers such as "Reply-to:". Specifically: * In Pine 3.91 go to the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). * Move down to the "customized-hdrs" variable. * Add a new header by typing "A". As the value enter: Distribution: and press Return. (You can actually set up a default value that will always be used -- unless you change it within the message -- by including it after the ":". For example, Distribution: local ) * Leave the Setup Configuration screen by typing "E". * Now when you compose a message you can see this additional header (along with some extra standard ones) by placing the cursor on any of the usual header fields and type Ctrl/R (Rich Headers). You can then give or modify the value for the "Distribution:" field value. Note that if you set up a default value for the field you do NOT need to type Ctrl/R for the header to be used. Ctrl/R merely *shows* you the headers and allows you to change them. I would suggest NOT giving "Distribution:" a default value -- leave it blank. This is because it doesn't make much sense for any e-mail messages you send, and it would be better to add a value only for appropriate Usenet News articles you're posting. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, M. Crane wrote: > How can I set the distribution of messages in Usenet when I'm within Pine? > I have some want ads that I don't want tto end up in Australia. > Can the Pine wizards respond to my address as well as here? > (picky..huh?) > > Thank you, virtual lumberjacks. > > mark crane > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 05:05:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29551; Wed, 12 Jul 95 05:05:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28214; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28208; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW0Jz-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) Subject: PINE or POP for VMS?? Date: 11 Jul 1995 21:58:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)?? Thanks Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu 113 Math Sciences phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** Lorraine L. Goff, CDRP VMS System Manager LLGOFF@okway.okstate.edu phone: 405/744-6301 fax: 405/744-7562 113 Math Sciences, Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK 74078-0606 *** Life in the fast lane is difficult for turtles. *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 05:05:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29577; Wed, 12 Jul 95 05:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22713; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22707; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW0OY-00038HC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 04:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: PINE or POP for VMS?? Message-Id: <173D9BD32S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 12:27:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3tus68$2h3p@bubba.ucc.okstate.edu> llgoff@vms.ucc.okstate.edu (Lorraine L. Goff) writes: >Does anyone know of a PINE or POP mailer for OpenVMS (not alpha)?? I don't know about that specific combination, but there is a commercial port of PINE included in the PMDF package, or there is a free port of PINE by Yehavi Bourvine in Israel, and you can read my experiences with it and pointers to the package itself and further information : http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html I've no reason to suppose it wouldn't build with your particular platform. You don't say which TCP/IP you are using: if it isn't Multinet then you'll also need a free network library package called NETLIB. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 09:43:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09957; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:43:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02903; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:40:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02897; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW4iz-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (David Kirk) Subject: Viewing the Headers... Date: 12 Jul 1995 16:19:39 GMT Message-Id: <3u0smr$85r@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Status: O X-Status: Sorry to ask such a silly question... But how does one view the full headers on incoming messages? Thanks in advance. -- dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 10:34:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13067; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:34:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29630; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:30:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29624; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:30:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW5Rz-00038IC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 10:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Haephrati Subject: Garbled text Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 01:45:24 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Subject: Garbled text Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN İversion 1.2 PL2¨ Subject: Garbled text Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN İversion 1.2 PL2¨ Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. Another problem: Sometimes after running the 'spell' process, attempting to 'perform take address' on more than 50 addresses, Pine terminates stating there is a bug. Why does this happen and how can I get back without loosing what I was working on. Please reply directly to my account. .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . Email: harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il . .................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 11:43:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16583; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:43:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05417; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:32:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05411; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:32:26 -0700 Received: (from kneustad@localhost) by PigsEye.Kennesaw.EDU (8.6.11/8.6.11) id OAA23354; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:32:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:32:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Kathleen D. Neustadt" Subject: Re: Printing using PROCOMM for Windows 2.1 or later To: "S. M. Zoltek" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3to8mh$cpr@portal.gmu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use QuickLink II and the only problem I have is if I get to fast with the fingers. i.e. I don't wait for it to finish printing to my local printer. Then it doesn't seem to turn the print off. I have to quit out of Pine and go back in. Also the screen scrolls off into never never land. Kathy kneustadt@pigseye.kennesaq.edu On 9 Jul 1995, S. M. Zoltek wrote: > A freind has asked me to enquire if anyone has encountered problems > printing when logging in over a modem and using pine to read mail. > Specifically, they have successfully useed PROCOMM for DOS to use > pine to read and print mail, but have not been able to do the same > with PROCOMM for windows, version 2.1 or higher -- I think I Have the > version number correct. > > Of course they have selected "attached-to-ainsi." > > -- > -- > smz > +==================================================================+ > | Dr. S. M. Zoltek, PAGE Associate Director | > | US MAIL: Department of Mathematical Sciences | > | George Mason University, Fairfax, VA 22030 | > | PHONE: 703-993-1468 OFFICE: S&T I, Rm 226A FAX: 703-993-1491 | > | EMAIL: (INTERNET) szoltek@gmu.edu (COMPUSERVE) 76044,2230 | > +==================================================================+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 12:14:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18236; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:14:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06081; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06075; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:55 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19921; Wed, 12 Jul 95 11:59:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 11:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for windows..where? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It is at ftp.cac.washington.edu in the /pine/pcpine directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jul 1995 tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu wrote: > Date: 11 Jul 1995 12:21:28 -0500 > From: tsio0001@gold.tc.umn.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Pine for windows..where? > > Hi. > > I haven't been able to locate an ftp site for pine/windows using archie, > looking at this newsgroup or using the search facility at cac.washington. > ANy kind person knows where it is? > > Thanks in advance!! > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMAQbo9/IU4uTDdHNAQHDTQIAyXcQx+n1yy1PrpZN+JcfjCVGmJAR3Zyy pWIcb216glnvaCCuiyTH1I8itoIxGHfjZOZgzqAJvlJNFV4y9dYjhw== =d3Wg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 12:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18627; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02473; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:15:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02467; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:15:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW74a-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 12:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Kumar Bagade) Subject: I need a nice public domain mail tool for PC Date: 12 Jul 1995 14:25:02 GMT Message-Id: <3u0lvu$eut@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello All, I am looking for a nice public domain mail tool for my PC. The current tool "Eudora" is OK but it has it's own limitations. I want to be able to do the following things with it on a my PC: * Should be able to send mail out without any problems. * Should have aliasing capability including alias for aliases. * Should be able to insert files in the message area from any of my directories on my PC and be able to edit it while I am composing messages. * Should have the ability to beep me when the mail arrives. * Should have folders capability. * Should have multiple signatures appending capability * Any other fancy features are welcome. Any help in this regards is much appreciated. Also, a direct mail will be greatly appreciated. ---- Mahesh Bagade c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 13:50:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22349; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:50:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08281; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:45:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08275; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sW8co-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 13:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cubasm@hartwick.edu (Help Desk Technical Assistant) Subject: PINE and an e-mail anamoly Message-Id: <1995Jul11.163634.4326@hartwick.edu> Date: 11 Jul 95 16:36:34 -0500 Status: O X-Status: Tuesday, 11 July 1995 Since yesterday I am experienceing an anamoly with Linux-based PINE. I sent e-mail from my VAX VMS account at school to my Linux account. I login sucessfully into my Linux account, and it reports that I have new mail. However, I go into PINE to view the new mail, and I get messages similar to "Message 0 of 0" within PINE. My mail is on my Linux account, but PINE will not show it to me. I know it is on my Linux account-- somewhere. I just do not know where else to look. It should be in the /var/spool/mail/xxxxx directory (xxxxx = username), but bash (Bourne-again shell) tell me that xxxxx is not a directory. How can I get PINE back to normal so that it recognizes my incoming mail? I would greatly appreciate whatever help you can provide me, and I thank you in advance for that help. Very respectfully, Martin Cubas (cubasm@hartwick.edu) <=- VAX (ronin@witten.hartwick.edu) <=- Linux From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 14:59:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25357; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:59:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09691; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:56:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09685; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:56:05 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25325; Wed, 12 Jul 95 14:55:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 14:55:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Help Desk Technical Assistant Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE and an e-mail anamoly In-Reply-To: <1995Jul11.163634.4326@hartwick.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- /var/spool/mail/xxxxx is usually a file rather than a directory, so you might double-check that. Also check the "inbox-path" in the Setup/Config screen. If there is a value there, try deleting it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Jul 1995, Help Desk Technical Assistant wrote: > Date: 11 Jul 95 16:36:34 -0500 > From: Help Desk Technical Assistant > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: PINE and an e-mail anamoly > > Tuesday, 11 July 1995 > > Since yesterday I am experienceing an anamoly with Linux-based PINE. I sent > e-mail from my VAX VMS account at school to my Linux account. I login > sucessfully into my Linux account, and it reports that I have new mail. > However, I go into PINE to view the new mail, and I get messages similar to > "Message 0 of 0" within PINE. > > My mail is on my Linux account, but PINE will not show it to me. I know it is > on my Linux account-- somewhere. I just do not know where else to look. It > should be in the /var/spool/mail/xxxxx directory (xxxxx = username), but bash > (Bourne-again shell) tell me that xxxxx is not a directory. > > How can I get PINE back to normal so that it recognizes my incoming mail? I > would greatly appreciate whatever help you can provide me, and I thank you in > advance for that help. > > Very respectfully, > > Martin Cubas (cubasm@hartwick.edu) <=- VAX > (ronin@witten.hartwick.edu) <=- Linux > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBMARE6N/IU4uTDdHNAQFZNQH/fl5FEFkdUCIvPNi2NNxIewSCngoq3Yo9 Sv/0YqyyUpCxd9bV4VsRGPDFq/eZr90LvkDqx4igV1IVSdDwkQMocQ== =eWwt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 15:39:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27284; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07403; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:35:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07397; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:35:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWAId-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael Henderson, Ruler Of All!" Subject: slocal and pine? Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 18:14:15 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: is it possible to use slocal in conjunction with pine to sort mail into different incoming folders? any help would be appreciated. much obliged, michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 16:04:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28683; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:04:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11117; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:02:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11111; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:02:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWAiT-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: attaching a file Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 15:54:02 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 11 Jul 1995, Michael Spivak wrote: > This may seem like a stupid question but: how to you attach a file to a > message? > Please send all replies to my mailbox. > Thank you. > spivak@yu1.yu.edu If you want to attach it as text so that it appears as part of your message then you can simply hit ^R for Read File when the cursor is in the "Message Text" field of your outgoing message. Pine will paste the contents of the file into your message. It will appear as text, as if you had typed it in. If you want the file to appear as a MIME encoded attachment, (a coded file which is held separately from the text -- appropriate for GIFs, binaries, LARGE text files, etc.) then move the cursor up into the header area of the message and enter the file name into the Attchmnt: line. It's that simple! Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 16:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29528; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08535; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:25:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08529; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:25:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWB23-00038IC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 16:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cheney@ucla.edu (Michael Cheney) Subject: alias conversion Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 16:18:04 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to convert pine aliases to the .mailrc format? My real goal is to move my aliases from pine on my unix account to Eudora on my mac. I would appreciate a CC by email. Thanks, -mike -- Michael Cheney cheney@ucla.edu http://www.seas.ucla.edu/~cheney From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 18:54:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04997; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13843; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:51:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13837; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:51:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWDFH-00038HC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 18:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mghens@rain.org (Michael Ghens) Subject: Mail alias to Pine .address Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 01:02:31 GMT Message-Id: <3u1ri2$d1b@news.rain.org> Status: O X-Status: Is there a utility to convert Mail style aliases to a pine .address? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 12 19:14:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05440; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:14:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11792; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:12:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11786; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:12:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWDbX-00038CC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 19:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Dowman Subject: how do I change the user name? Date: 4 Jul 1995 22:27:32 GMT Message-Id: <3tcf8k$2s2@nic.wat.hookup.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I mail from have several accounts, but I want all the replies to come to the same account. I can change the domain name, but I can't figure out how to change the username. Thanks, Paul. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 00:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12283; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17804; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:46:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17798; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:46:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWIvl-00038CC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 00:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neta Weinryb Subject: how to get rid of RMAIL file Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:11 +0300 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: when someone who is using the emacs mail tool, RMAIL, wants to switch to pine, how can he stop the mail from going into the RMAIL file? (right now the mail goes to both the pine files and the RMAIL files. When the RMAIL file is read the pine files are closed and emptied...) ========================================== Neta Weinryb RADVision Ltd., ISRAEL neta@radvision.rad.co.il From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:24:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13288; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:24:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16905; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:22:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16899; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:22:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWJOK-00038IC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Schmitz Subject: How to post articles via e-mail? Date: 12 Jul 1995 18:02:03 GMT Message-Id: <3u12mr$cj0@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> References: <3u11il$cgi@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Is there anyway of posting articles with an e-mail program? What is the ordinary way of posting articles? Thanx. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:59:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14156; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:59:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17380; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17374; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:52:44 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:49:16 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA16157; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:54:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:54:54 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Schmitz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to post articles via e-mail? In-Reply-To: <3u12mr$cj0@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Forgetting about Pine for a moment... The usual way of reading and sending e-mail messages is to use a mailer program. This lets you read messages that have been delivered to your mail file on your computer, and to send messages out (usually directly or indirectly using the SMTP protocol). Usenet News is slightly different in that articles don't get delivered to a personal file "just for you". Instead they are held in a central, shared directory. They then can be accessed directly by a news reading program as part of the normal filestore, or by the special news protocol "NNTP". Now for Pine... Pine is an integrated mailer and news reader program. It attempts to provide a consistent, coherent interface so that whether you are reading, sending or replying to e-mail or news articles it "feels" the same. And overall it does a pretty good job; we have many users here who probably wouldn't have got into Usenet News if they'd had the hurdle of learning yet another program whilst also battling the newsgroups themselves. So, if you're asking "can I send Usenet News articles using a mail program" then the answer is "Yes". Pine will let you read and post articles using the NNTP protocol, assuming you have access to a news server that allows you to both read and post articles. However in some cases people only have access to news servers that allow them to _read_ news (not post their own articles). For example, it may be a limited service available to people not working at a particular establishment. If this is your case, then the question becomes "can I send an e-mail message somewhere to get it magically converted into an article in a newsgroup?" The answer is again yes... you will need to send the message to a Mail-to-News gateway computer. Typically a newsgroup with name comp.sys.blah could be reached as comp-sys-blah@news.gateway.machine Note the change of the "."s to "-"s. The nitty gritty is where such machines are. I know there are some publiclly useable ones.... but their addresses elude my memory at present. Perhaps someone else can remember? (Wasn't one run by DEC?) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Jul 1995, Michael Schmitz wrote: > Is there anyway of posting articles with an e-mail program? What is the > ordinary > way of posting articles? > Thanx. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 01:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14182; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:59:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18691; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:56:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18685; Thu, 13 Jul 95 01:56:12 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:52:42 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA16515; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 09:58:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: David Kirk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Viewing the Headers... In-Reply-To: <3u0smr$85r@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It's a two-stage process... First (using Pine 3.91) you need to enable an extra command for diaplying the full headers. You do this by going into the Setup Configuration screen (S then C from the Main Menu). Now move down to "enable-full-header-cmd" and make sure it is crossed. Leave the Setup Configuration Screen by typing E (Exit). Now when you're reading a message an extra command is available to you. The "H" command will now display the message with full headers. Another "H" hides them again. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Jul 1995, David Kirk wrote: > Sorry to ask such a silly question... > > But how does one view the full headers on incoming > messages? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > dkirk@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:08:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14378; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:08:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18776; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:04:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18770; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:04:22 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:00:50 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA17146; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:06:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Michael Haephrati Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. This is because your message text includes one or both of these: * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" range (32 through 126). * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. When either of these is true the message text is encoded using "Quoted Printable" encoding, a part of the MIME specification. When triggered Quoted Printable protects certain characters. For example, * "Funny" characters are sent as "=XX", where "XX" is their ASCII character code expressed in hexadecimal. * Spaces at ends of lines or wrapped lines get protected ("=20"). * Certain control characters normally accepted (eg, Tab) get protected (Tab becomes "=09"). If the recipient is using a MIME-aware mailer then the Quoted Printable encoding is automagically undone before the message text is displayed in its original glory. However if the recipient isn't using a MIME-aware mailer they get to see all the "=XX" stuff. One solution is for the sender to make sure they don't trigger Quoted Printable encoding when they send the message. Another solution is for the recipient to move to a modern MIME-aware mailer. :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:35:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14828; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:35:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19035; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:32:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19029; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:32:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKWF-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C.P.Stoddart@open.ac.uk (Chris Stoddart) Subject: Pine on several DEC Alphas? Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:06:03 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, I've just been trying to install Pine 3.91 on a cluster of DEC Alphas running OSF/1, and I can't quite get it to work right. Here is the situation: Several workstations are connected to a serverto which incoming mail is delivered. Users $HOME directories are NFS-mounted from the server, but the incoming mailbox /var/spool/mail/$USER is local to each machine. Now when Pine starts up on any machine I want it to look in the INBOX on the server for that person. This means using imapd. I've tried installing imapd on the server and even on the client, but when you start Pine connection from one of the client machines I get the message 'connection refused'. Anybody got any idea about this? The server definitely knows about the client because they are NFS-sharing disks :-) The Pine technical notes say something about using rimap, but I can't follow this at all. I am using a pine.conf.fixed file on each machine to tell it where to look for the INBOX. Could the syntax of this be causing problems? (if I use a clients pine.conf.fixed on the server, then the server refuses connection to it's own INBOX!) In short has anyone set up a Unix cluster in this way? How have you done it?!! I'd be very (very) grateful for your ideas. Chris Stoddart Dept. of Physics The Open University Milton Keynes U.K. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:48:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15011; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:48:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17957; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:43:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17951; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:43:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKiQ-00038CC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: I need a nice public domain mail tool for PC Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:13:10 GMT Message-Id: <3u2o36$ped@fu-berlin.de> References: <3u0lvu$eut@kocrsv08.delcoelect.com> Status: O X-Status: First off: Let "mailer" mean "mail user agent". c23mkb@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Mahesh Kumar Bagade) writes: >I am looking for a nice public domain mail tool for my PC. >I want to be able to do the following things with it on a my PC: > * Should be able to send mail out without any problems. If it's a mailer then it should not have any problems with mails, right? > * Should have aliasing capability including alias for aliases. "alias" and "group alias". Most mailers do that now. > * Should be able to insert files in the message area from any of my > directories on my PC and be able to edit it while I am composing messages. That's an "editor" issue. Granted, a mailer might have an "internal editor", but why reinvent the wheel? > * Should have the ability to beep me when the mail arrives. This depends on how mail arrives on your PC. It should thus be bound to the program which receives the mail (MTA). The mailer should not be used for that. Otherwise you'd have to keep the mailer running all the time - not good as the mailer probably does a lot more than just check the mailbox and thus requires a lot more RAM than a simply utility. > * Should have folders capability. You mean "save a mail to a file"? Have you ever seen a mailer who doesn't have this? > * Should have multiple signatures appending capability Now, this isn't something a mailer is for. Use a script to do that! Better yet - don't use a signature at all. I think this is a general request about a mailer so I have set "Followup-To: comp.mail.misc". I'm sure both ELM and PINE will have all the capabilities you want. Just install a UNIXish system (eg LINUX) on your PC and you can install both and select the better one. I also left out "zmail" from the newsgroups list as I dunno whether it applies. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 02:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15119; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19205; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:52:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19199; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0sWKmQ-00038HC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkyan@cs.cuhk.hk (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Signature Help Needed Date: 13 Jul 1995 09:39:13 GMT Message-Id: <3u2pk1$9q3@eng_ser1.erg.cuhk.hk> References: <3tpnbm$q4e@tkhut.sojourn.com> Status: O X-Status: Ralf Wenzel (n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de) wrote: > On 9 Jul 1995, Alan Summer wrote: > > I have a copy of the Pine user-guide, but it does > > not answer my question of how, to establish a > > signature for my e-mail. Can someone help? > First: I'm sorry, but my english ist very bad!!!! > I don't know if i really understand your question, because it seems a > very simple problem (->online help). You have to save a file (name: > .signature) in your home-directory. Or you choose another name and configure > to the setup. Or use control+R (Read File). Also you may need to configue you .pinerc file in you home directory as below: localsignature=~/.signature remotesignature = ~/.signature Martin > +-----------------------+-------------+-----------------------------------+ > | Ralf Wenzel | ? | n06600@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de | > | Kavallerieweg 18 | \|/ + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | 33104 Paderborn (GER) | @ @ | PHONE: 0049 - 5254 - 87293 | > +-----------------------+-oOO-(_)-OOo-+-----------------------------------+ -- ________________________________ /| /| | Name:Martin Yan Age:20 | ||__|| | Home page : | / O O\__ http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/~mkyan | / \ Talk to me, i am bored!!!! | / \ \ | / _ \ \ ---------------------------- / |\____\ \ || / | | | |\____/ || / \|_|_|/ | __|| / / \ |____| || / | | /| | --| | | |// |____ --| * _ | |_|_|_| | \-/ *-- _--\ _ \ // | / _ \\ _ // | / * / \_ /- | - | | * ___ c_c_c_C/ \C_c_c_c____________ _________ _____________ ______________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 03:09:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15577; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:09:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19245; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19239; Thu, 13 Jul 95 02:57:14 -0700 Received: from apus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.2] (ident = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWL0z-000BzOC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:57 BST Received: by apus.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWL0y-00034FC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:57 BST Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:57:04 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Landy Reply-To: bl10@cam.ac.uk To: Tom Unger , Michael Seibel , Pine Info List Subject: Winpine Bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: My usual favorite user reports that he has problems eXpunging a largish folder using Winpine. I have attached his brief report, and a message from him including the pinedebg.txt. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826" Content-ID: Content-Description: Digest of 2 messages This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: winpine (fwd) Return-Path: Received: from ppsw3.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38] (ident = pp) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sW4vg-000C03C; Wed, 12 Jul 95 17:46 BST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (XTPP8.1) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk; Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:45:49 +0100 Received: from cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.155] by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sW4vV-000CBiC; Wed, 12 Jul 95 17:46 BST Date: Wed, 12 Jul 1995 17:46:17 -0100 (BST) From: Chris Cheney Reply-To: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk To: bl10@cam.ac.uk Subject: winpine X-Sender: cjc1@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I get 'abnormal program termination' on tidying a folder with a large number of deleted (say 60) and undeleted (say over 100) messages. --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-ID: Content-Description: Re: winpine (fwd) Return-Path: Received: from ppsw3.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.38] (ident = pp) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWKSp-000BzoC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:21 BST Received: from black.csi.cam.ac.uk by mauve.csi.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (XTPP8.1) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:05 +0100 Received: from cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.10.155] by black.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.29.0 #36) id m0sWKSe-000CBhC; Thu, 13 Jul 95 10:21 BST Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:29 -0100 (BST) From: Chris Cheney Reply-To: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk To: bl10@cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: winpine X-Sender: cjc1@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I presume it is repeatable? I am sure that if so they will want the debug > info (pinedebg.txt) Looks as tho' it may be faulty conversion from Phx! ===================== Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Thu Jul 13 10:11:26 1995 reading_pinerc "C:\pine\pinerc" Read 6521 characters: ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : savemail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject customized-hdrs : Reply-to: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : notepad use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x28+18+52 ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (C:\pine\pinerc) ======= personal-name : Chris Cheney user-id : cjc1 user-domain : hermes.cam.ac.uk smtp-server : smtp.hermes.cam.ac.uk nntp-server : nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk inbox-path : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX folder-collections : pc c:\pine\mail\[] : staff-server f:\pine\mail\[] : hermes {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] default-fcc : savemail read-message-folder : savemail feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : quit-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : include-header-in-reply : include-text-in-reply : enable-aggregate-command-set default-composer-hdr : To : Cc : Subject customized-hdrs : Reply-to: C.J.Cheney@ucs.cam.ac.uk editor : notepad last-time-prune-ques : 95.7 last-version-used : 3.91 normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : cyan reverse-foreground-c : black reverse-background-c : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 11 font-style : "" window-position : 85x28+18+52 ======= Global_val options set (pinerc) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sentmail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX ======= Fixed_val options set (NO FIXED) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: cjc1 Fullname: "Chris Cheney" User domain name being used "hermes.cam.ac.uk" Local Domain name being used "csi.cam.ac.uk" Host name being used "cjc-pc.csi.cam.ac.uk" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"hermes.cam.ac.uk" Context c:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context c:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context f:\pine\mail\[] type: LOCAL Context {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}mail/[] type: REMOTE Context *{nntp-serv.cam.ac.uk/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP mm_notify NIL : {imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX : black.csi.cam.ac.uk IMAP2bis Service 7.4(70) at Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:11:35 +0100 (BST) Opened folder "{imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk}INBOX" with 50 messages Sorting by Arrival IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: C:\intruptd - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- === folder_screen called ==== - mailcap_free - ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log babble: lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok). About to open folder "DEFAULT" inbox: "INBOX" Close - saved inbox state: max 50 Opened folder "C:\PINE\MAIL\DEFAULT" with 576 messages Sorting by Arrival ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:11 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of group: @phx.cam.ac.uk IMAP 10:13 7/13 mm_log parse: Junk at end of address: @phx.cam.ac.uk done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. IMAP 10:16 7/13 mm_log babble: Check completed done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. done. ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- - expunge - Want_to read: y (121) IMAP 10:18 7/13 mm_log babble: Expunged 80 messages expunge complete cur:61 max:496 Sorting by Arrival about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Bad msgno in mail_fetchstructure --1900025479-976763494-805629201=:3826-- --1900025479-1110064587-805629201=:3826-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 13 03:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16053; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18418; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:22:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post.tau.ac.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.05/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18408; Thu, 13 Jul 95 03:21:44 -0700 Received: from ccsg.tau.ac.il (harmony@ccsg.tau.ac.il [132.66.16.2]) by post.tau.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.9) with ESMTP id NAA25006; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:23:50 +0300 Received: (harmony@localhost) by ccsg.tau.ac.il (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04479; Thu, 13 Jul 1995 10:21:37 GMT Date: Thu, 13 Jul 1995 13:21:36 +0300 (IDT) From: Michael Haephrati To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Garbled text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2076045310-2114421122-805630896=:899" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2076045310-2114421122-805630896=:899 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am attaching the document. Please let me know how can I change it so I will be able to include it in email messages sent by Pine. -Michael. On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > On Wed, 12 Jul 1995, Michael Haephrati wrote: > > > Whenever I send message that include text imported from an ASCII file > > (edited by 'pico'), I see it ok on screen but most of the people who > > receive such message, get it garbled with '=20' at the end of lines. > > This is because your message text includes one or both of these: > > * At least one character with an ASCII code out of the "usual" > range (32 through 126). > * At least one Very Long (several hundred?) characters long. > > When either of these is true the message text is encoded using "Quoted > Printable" encoding, a part of the MIME specification. > > When triggered Quoted Printable protects certain characters. For example, > * "Funny" characters are sent as "=XX", where "XX" is their ASCII > character code expressed in hexadecimal. > * Spaces at ends of lines or wrapped lines get protected ("=20"). > * Certain control characters normally accepted (eg, Tab) get > protected (Tab becomes "=09"). > > If the recipient is using a MIME-aware mailer then the Quoted Printable > encoding is automagically undone before the message text is displayed in > its original glory. However if the recipient isn't using a MIME-aware > mailer they get to see all the "=XX" stuff. > > One solution is for the sender to make sure they don't trigger Quoted > Printable encoding when they send the message. Another solution is for > the recipient to move to a modern MIME-aware mailer. :-) > > Mike Brudenell > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK > Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ > .................................................... . Michael Haephrati . . 69 Jabotinsky st. Givatayim 53319 ISRAEL . . Phone/Fax: + 972 3 315 967 . . 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