From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 01:36:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10582; Mon, 1 May 95 01:36:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00323; Mon, 1 May 95 01:32:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00317; Mon, 1 May 95 01:32:04 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 1 May 1995 09:28:45 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA00922; Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:34 +0100 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:32:34 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: "Douglas M. Bates" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The names of the configuration and fixed configuration files are held in operating system specific include files. Going off memory these live in the pine/osdep/ directory of your unpacked Pine kit. Find the appropriate .h file and modify the neam(s) appropriately. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Douglas M. Bates wrote: > I am configuring Pine 3.91 for several different types of Unix systems in > our department. Because we discourage the use of directories in the > /usr/local/ hierarchy, I would like to keep the global configuration file > in a location other than /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I had hoped that > there would be a variable in the makefile to set this but I can't see > one. In fact, a grep of the source code directory seems to indicate that > the name /usr/local/lib/pine.conf occurs as exactly that string in a > number of locations in the source code and the help files. > > Is it the case that using another global configuration file would require > replacing that string in many different source files? (Replies via > e-mail would be appreciated. I don't know that I will be able to keep up > with the volume of traffic on this group.) > > If that is the case, may I suggest that allowing easy reconfiguration of > that name could be something to add to the "TO DO" list? > > Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu > Statistics Department 608/262-2598 > University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 05:19:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15843; Mon, 1 May 95 05:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05644; Mon, 1 May 95 05:08:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05638; Mon, 1 May 95 05:08:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5uBY-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 05:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 28 Apr 1995 18:39:06 +0100 Message-Id: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: : > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: : > : > : Hello all, : > : > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, : > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem : > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when : > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by : > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to : > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error : > : today :-( ) and inelegant. : > : > : > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges : > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next : > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in : > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? : > : > : Please reply by e-mail. : > : > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or : > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front : > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. : > : And there is even an option so that save will not delete. : I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as : Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. Incorrect answer. Zero points In the .pinerc file there is a flag that you can set to make it do either. If you enter a folder name after read-message-folder= it will save all read mail to this folder marking it deleted in the inbox. Having this option set means the only mail in the inbox is the unread. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 05:50:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16439; Mon, 1 May 95 05:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03455; Mon, 1 May 95 05:39:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03449; Mon, 1 May 95 05:39:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5ugR-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 05:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kovler@smart.net (Ken Kovler) Subject: How do you erase entries in the Address book? Date: 1 May 1995 07:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Status: O X-Status: I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address book. If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. -- | 0 0 | "Keep Smiling" //\\ Ken \\//[http://www.smart.net/~kovler] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 06:27:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17012; Mon, 1 May 95 06:27:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03886; Mon, 1 May 95 06:16:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03880; Mon, 1 May 95 06:16:44 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA17624 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 1 May 1995 09:16:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:16:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok To: Ken Kovler Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you erase entries in the Address book? In-Reply-To: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Ken Kovler wrote: > I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address > book. > If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. I beleive that there's a D in the address book menu which does this (at least in 3.91) Mike -- The "`Stok' disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 06:53:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17582; Mon, 1 May 95 06:53:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06508; Mon, 1 May 95 06:38:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06502; Mon, 1 May 95 06:38:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5vcG-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 06:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdemena@annex.com (Steven de Mena) Subject: Un-Subscribe to PINE mailing list Date: 1 May 1995 05:28:27 GMT Message-Id: <3o1rhr$ph6@news.annex.com> Status: O X-Status: Can someone E-Mail me and tell me how to un-subscribe to the "pine-info" mailing list? Thanks, Steve -- Steven de Mena Sysop, Technical Operations - The Annex! BBS sdemena@annex.com Telnet annex.com (204.74.67.1) Phone +1 818.779.5600 Los Angeles, CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19411; Mon, 1 May 95 08:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05344; Mon, 1 May 95 07:54:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sarah.albany.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05338; Mon, 1 May 95 07:54:18 -0700 Received: from s52.ed.albany.edu (s52.ed.albany.edu [128.204.40.52]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.6.10/HUB01) with SMTP id KAA12382 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 10:54:15 -0400 Received: by s52.ed.albany.edu (3.2/HUB10); id AA03020; Mon, 1 May 95 10:53:16 EDT for pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Christopher A. Cox" Message-Id: <9505011453.AA03020@s52.ed.albany.edu> Subject: Compiling PINE on a Sun 2 with SunOS 3.5? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 10:53:12 -0400 (ADT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 530 Status: O X-Status: I would like to compile PINE on this old steel monster of mine, a Sun 2/120 with SunOS 3.5. No, I don't want v4.1.1 on it...it would be slower yet (if that were possible). Has anyone done this? What do I need to mess with? I am not really a programmer (it gives me hives) so perhaps there is something easy that I missed, but I certainly have missed it. Thanks... ---------- If you cut here you'd probably ruin your monitor -------------- cac@itchy.geog.albany.edu Christopher A. Cox cac@s52.ed.albany.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:19:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19980; Mon, 1 May 95 08:19:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07796; Mon, 1 May 95 08:09:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from msphub.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07786; Mon, 1 May 95 08:09:22 -0700 Received: from Connect2 Message Router by cbsmsp.msphub.com via Connect2-SMTP 3.19.b12F; Mon, 1 May 95 10:12:27 -0600 Message-Id: <08DAA42F01570200@cbsmsp.msphub.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 95 10:12:18 -0400 From: Jon Johnston Organization: Creative Business Solutions To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 3.89 and potential problems? X-Mailer: Connect2-SMTP 3.19.b12F MHS to SMTP Gateway Status: O X-Status: Have a client who is currently using 3.89, which, I've been informed by this list, is about 1.5 years old. I cannot update the PINE the client has, since they had some customization done to the code, and (whoopeee!!!) no one documented the changes. Not only that, but I don't have any authority to do anything on their Unix system besides get PINE talking to Microsoft Mail. 1. How can I retrieve the FAQ through email? 2. What are newer versions capable of that 3.89 does not have?????? Thanks for any info. Jon Johnston Creative Business Solutions 10560 Wayzata Blvd Minnetonka, MN 55305 612-544-1108 Internet: JON@CBSMSP.MSPHUB.COM Nebraska ---- 1994 NCAA National Champions ---- 13-0 Congrats UCLA - 1994/95 NCAA Basketball Champions - 31-2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:33:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20787; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05959; Mon, 1 May 95 08:22:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05953; Mon, 1 May 95 08:22:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5x7I-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: cmsg cancel <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: <3nnsgj$e8m@news.primenet.com> Date: 27 Apr 1995 10:43:31 GMT Control: cancel <3nl3cs$igd@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:45:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21297; Mon, 1 May 95 08:45:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08598; Mon, 1 May 95 08:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08592; Mon, 1 May 95 08:39:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5xQn-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgomez@ix.netcom.com (B Gomez) Subject: using pc-pine with netcruiser Date: 1 May 1995 05:04:56 GMT Message-Id: <3o1q5o$emf@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use pc-pine with netcruiser? Is anyone out there running it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 08:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21328; Mon, 1 May 95 08:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08440; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08434; Mon, 1 May 95 08:33:03 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA09990 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 1 May 1995 11:33:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 95 11:33:00 EDT From: Joe Brennan In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 30 Apr 95 15:25:20 -0400 Subject: "Message to save shrank!" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? Brief details attached... I don't want to post someone else's whole debug file publicly. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu ----- Error displayed by pine: [Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)] ----- Section of .pine-debug: q_status_message, Count 1, "Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)" BOTCH: 5 save shrank mc->size == 2316, string == 2306 FAILED save of msg-id <> ----- Comes from this place in mailcmd.c: /* * What's really needed is a way to pipe this crap right into * context_append... */ /* set up string driver */ #ifdef DOS . . .[skip ahead]. . . #else if((mlen = strlen((char *)so_text(so))) < message->rfc822_size){ q_status_message3(1, 2, 4, "\007Message to save shrank! (#%ld: %ld --> %ld)", (void *)message->msgno, (void *)message->rfc822_size, (void *)mlen); dprint(1, (debugfile, "BOTCH: %ld save shrank mc->size == %ld, string == %ld\n", message->msgno, message->rfc822_size, mlen)); so_give(&so); return(0); From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 09:18:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28051; Mon, 1 May 95 09:18:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09671; Mon, 1 May 95 09:01:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09204; Mon, 1 May 95 09:00:57 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA01741 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:55:17 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA02503 for ; Mon, 1 May 1995 11:55:15 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA19606; Mon, 1 May 95 11:53:51 EDT Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:53:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printer selection In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Last week there was a posting re: selecting printers on the fly. It seems to me that Pine was 'meant' to allow this, since when you initiate the print command, you are asked "Print to lpr?" and offered Yes, No, or Cancel as options. Since C is cancel, N should logically mean, "Well, then, where *do* you want to print?" and let the user fill in the destination. My $.02 worth. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 09:52:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29811; Mon, 1 May 95 09:52:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13441; Mon, 1 May 95 09:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13433; Mon, 1 May 95 09:48:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5yV0-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 09:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wadams@callnet.com Subject: OS/2 version of Pine? Date: 1 May 1995 06:30:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o1v6e$5to@kiwi.futuris.net> Status: O X-Status: I heard awhile back that Pine was being ported for OS/2 Warp. Anyone know the status? TIA, Wayne From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 10:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00856; Mon, 1 May 95 10:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10986; Mon, 1 May 95 10:09:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10980; Mon, 1 May 95 10:09:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5yqa-00038ZC; Mon, 1 May 95 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: 1 May 1995 09:18:17 -0700 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Dave Saville writes: >I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie >saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. > >Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag >you've lost it. Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:14:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03628; Mon, 1 May 95 11:14:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15518; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15512; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5zng-00038ZC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Ngu Subject: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 1 May 1995 17:35:53 GMT Message-Id: <3o365p$cad@itnews.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachment files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME tools or use pine. Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read this newsgroup much. Thanks in advance, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:14:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03665; Mon, 1 May 95 11:14:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12366; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12360; Mon, 1 May 95 11:09:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5znT-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Ngu Subject: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 1 May 1995 17:35:50 GMT Message-Id: <3o365m$bh2@itnews.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachment files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME tools or use pine. Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read this newsgroup much. Thanks in advance, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:21:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03922; Mon, 1 May 95 11:21:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15669; Mon, 1 May 95 11:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15663; Mon, 1 May 95 11:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s5zrB-00038aC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:06:25 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This has been the standard behaviour all along. You have remember to insert the FCC field. Tis is presumablybecause messages as sent do not have an Fcc: field. It sure would be nice to get the standard default put in tho! On Fri, 28 Apr 1995, Dave Saville wrote: > I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie > saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. > > I have noticed the following: > > I want to re-send a message. > > Go to sent-mail > pick up message > Save to postponed-msgs ( message in sent-mail is marked deleted) > Compose > Send message > > Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag > you've lost it. > > Comments??? > > David C. Saville > Tel: +44 1293 556326 > > Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning. > Capt. James T. Kirk (Quoting Peter Pan) > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:21:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03954; Mon, 1 May 95 11:21:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12450; Mon, 1 May 95 11:12:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tuna.wang.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12444; Mon, 1 May 95 11:12:20 -0700 Received: from nefertiti.wang.com by tuna.wang.com with SMTP id AA11532 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 May 1995 13:32:08 -0400 Received: (from forrie@localhost) by nefertiti.wang.com (8.7.Alpha.9/8.7.Alpha.9) id NAA11802 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 1 May 1995 13:35:48 -0400 From: Forrest Aldrich Message-Id: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Subject: Filtering and IMAP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 13:35:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they use the IMAP protocol? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:44:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05205; Mon, 1 May 95 11:44:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13055; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13049; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s60JO-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 1 May 1995 13:54:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3o2ll8$mm5@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: : Sorry - I award you ZERO points! That option sets things up so that on : exit Pine asks you if you wish to copy all read mail to the : "read-message-folder"; only if it does that will it mark the mail : deleted. It will then only expunge it if you say yes, unless you have yet : another option set. However, in none of the scenarios is it simply : marking read mail as deleted ***without taking a copy of it somewhere : else***, and even with all these opptions set, you still get the chance : to say NO. : ======================================================================= : Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, : University of Cambridge Computing Service : Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 11:48:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05365; Mon, 1 May 95 11:48:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16276; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16270; Mon, 1 May 95 11:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s60JT-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk (ben.rose) Subject: Mail list Date: 1 May 1995 13:58:03 +0100 Message-Id: <3o2lsr$muf@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Can anybody tell me how to get this as a mailing list instead of a newsgroup. Where do I subscribe? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This letter was brought to you in association with:- Ben Rose of Sunderland, England aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:09:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09750; Mon, 1 May 95 13:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18360; Mon, 1 May 95 13:01:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18354; Mon, 1 May 95 13:01:23 -0700 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id QAA05701; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:22 -0400 Received: (from sbpmtm@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA12693; Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:01:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Tin-Mala Subject: Re: Resending messages - bounce? To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that > when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your > default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~Affirmative to the forward being automatically saved. You have me wondering though about the "bounce" function - I didn't know one could bounce individual msgs. Please tell me how! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tin-Mala ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Special Assistant to the Dean - Technology Mgt. Phone: 202-994-8637 SBPM, The George Washington University Fax: 202-994-6382 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:12:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09904; Mon, 1 May 95 13:12:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14921; Mon, 1 May 95 12:59:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14915; Mon, 1 May 95 12:59:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s61WS-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 12:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Message-Id: References: <3nlie1$iuh@nntp.interaccess.com> Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:50:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 26 Apr 1995 13:39:13 GMT, in comp.mail.pine, John Anfuso (while parading as janf@interaccess.com) scribbled >>--> : khamis@aviion.galtronics.co.il (Aladdin Khamis) wrote: : : >checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes, you might be able to change that, : >but I don't know how to do that yet. : : You can't change it. Personally I think the pc-pine version should allow Just ftp the source and change it. I don't remember which file it is in, but you can grep for it. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Graduation in: 37 Days - 53590 Minutes | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The beatings will continue until morale improves. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 13:53:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11539; Mon, 1 May 95 13:53:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19588; Mon, 1 May 95 13:41:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19582; Mon, 1 May 95 13:41:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s62A0-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Wanted: reader that scans articles Message-Id: Date: 27 Apr 1995 19:58:49 -0701 References: <3nmerm$3h1@boris.eden.com> Status: O X-Status: Nancy McGough writes: >Peter Durcansky (durcansky@oi.com) writes: >>Is anybody aware of a newsreader that can scan all articles in the newsgroup for existence >>of a text string? > >nn 6.5 can do this with either of these commands: Someone mailed me that this is only possible in nn 6.5 if this feature was switched on at compile time. Pine 3.90 (and higher versions), which is both a mailer and newsreader, has full text searching of a newsgroup or mail folder. To do this you first need to set the enable-aggregate-command-set and then while viewing the newsgroup type: ; t a TextToSearchFor Which means select (;) text (t) all messages (a). Hope this helps, Nancy -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 14:18:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12618; Mon, 1 May 95 14:18:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16742; Mon, 1 May 95 14:11:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16730; Mon, 1 May 95 14:10:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s62bN-00038cC; Mon, 1 May 95 14:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 1 May 1995 15:15:13 GMT Message-Id: <3o2tu1$1hla@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Steve Hubert wrote: >The mail check interval will be configurable in the next version of pine. Yay! The Pine development group has been incredible with their work on this version. Every single minor new feature orbug fix I've been asking for is supposed to be in it. Great work, guys! Now, as long as I'm here, I'll add another request for a minor new feature...no new bugs in 3.92? ;) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 16:06:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19212; Mon, 1 May 95 16:06:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19455; Mon, 1 May 95 15:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19447; Mon, 1 May 95 15:54:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08015; Mon, 1 May 95 15:53:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 15:53:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Misconfigured News Reader In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can specify an Organization: header in the Setup/Config screen under customized-hdrs, e.g. customized-hdrs=Organization: ${ORGANIZATION} |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 25 Apr 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 Apr 1995 20:36:02 GMT > From: Fuzzy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Misconfigured News Reader > > > > seems like every time I post something thru pine 3.91 > the organization field in the display is replaced by > "Fuzzy at Misconfigured News Reader" > > wondered where we have to set the value for pine to find it. > tin 1.22 finds it in environment variable ORGANIZATION which > I set in /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/profile for the various shells. > > thnaks in advance.... > > > Fuzzy > sysadmin, asarian.org > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 16:23:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20003; Mon, 1 May 95 16:23:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19920; Mon, 1 May 95 16:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19914; Mon, 1 May 95 16:13:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08702; Mon, 1 May 95 16:12:33 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Yeung Cc: Aladdin Khamis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Silly question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 29 Apr 1995, Kevin Yeung wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, Aladdin Khamis wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Apr 1995, Isaac Hepworth wrote: > > > > > > Why is pine called pine? > > > > > Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, > > That's fun. Versions before 3.91 can't handle news, if I'm not mistaken. > Prior to Pine 3.90, it was "Pine is Not Elm" among other things.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 17:47:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23989; Mon, 1 May 95 17:47:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21873; Mon, 1 May 95 17:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21867; Mon, 1 May 95 17:35:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s65i9-00038RC; Mon, 1 May 95 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu (Matthew Cravit) Subject: Building Pine/Pico under Solaris x86 Date: 1 May 1995 17:16:11 GMT Message-Id: <3o350r$lp7@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having trouble building Pine under Solaris for Intel 2.4. When I try to compile it, I get a ton of warnings about conflicting type definitions for strcmp, strcpy, memcmp and memcpy, and the compile eventually dies without producing any binaries. If someone could either give me some pointers, or email me the binaries (for pine and pico) for Solaris x86, either would be appreciated. Also, in case it matters, I am using GCC 2.6.3, and it was installed according to the directions (and has compiled other stuff with no problem). I do not have the SUNWspro compilers on this system. Thanks, /Matthew Cravit, System Manager DePaul University UPIT-ATD -- Matthew Cravit, | "After all is said and done, Academic Technology Development | more is said than done." DePaul University, Chicago IL | -- Anonymous E-Mail: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu +----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:14:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27445; Mon, 1 May 95 20:14:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27876; Mon, 1 May 95 19:53:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27869; Mon, 1 May 95 19:53:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s67xR-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 19:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie5000@aol.com (Julie5000) Subject: cmsg cancel <3noupr$2uh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 23:24:06 GMT Control: cancel <3noupr$2uh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Cancelling spam. See explanation in news.admin.net-abuse.misc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:46:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28177; Mon, 1 May 95 20:46:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23888; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23882; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s68TI-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: configure pine not to use MIME Date: 2 May 1995 01:09:35 GMT Message-Id: <3o40of$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Only by reading the file into the body of the message simply by using the ^R (Read File) command if it is a text file, first uuencoded if it is a binary file. But MIME is the future, and there are public domain MIME decoding s/w avail. for almost all platforms... even to those computers which say IntelInside :) Robert Ngu writes in comp.mail.pine: + Is there a way to configure pine not to use MIME format for sending attachme + files? This presents a problem for elm users that typically do not have MIME + tools or use pine. + Please help and send me responses at rngu@scdt.intel.com since I do not read + this newsgroup much. + Thanks in advance, + Bob -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 20:47:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28226; Mon, 1 May 95 20:47:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23898; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [168.166.0.67] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23892; Mon, 1 May 95 20:24:57 -0700 Received: by services (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01095; Mon, 1 May 1995 22:24:11 +0600 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:24:11 -0500 (CDT) From: James Proffer To: Steven de Mena Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Un-Subscribe to PINE mailing list In-Reply-To: <3o1rhr$ph6@news.annex.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 747 Status: O X-Status: to majordomo@cac.washington.edu send the following message unsubscribe pine-info Good Luck On 1 May 1995, Steven de Mena wrote: > Can someone E-Mail me and tell me how to un-subscribe to the "pine-info" > mailing list? > > Thanks, > > Steve > > -- > Steven de Mena > Sysop, Technical Operations - The Annex! BBS sdemena@annex.com > Telnet annex.com (204.74.67.1) Phone +1 818.779.5600 Los Angeles, CA > Missouri State Data Center <*>James Proffer: UNIX sysadm The Source for Missouri Info | Phone: (314) 751-1544 Fax: (314) 751-3299 FTP: services.state.mo.us | Internet: jproffer@services.state.mo.us Gopher: TBA | jproffer@mail.more.net WWW: http://www.ecodev.state.mo.us/mohome.htm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:28:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29196; Mon, 1 May 95 21:28:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28832; Mon, 1 May 95 20:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28826; Mon, 1 May 95 20:53:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s68qD-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 1 May 1995 14:09:45 -0701 Message-Id: References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Status: O X-Status: forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) writes: >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they >use the IMAP protocol? Do you have shell access to the machine that stores your mail folders? If so, just set things up in the usual way and the filtered folders will show up in your Pine folder list. I've set a lot of people up with PC-Pine to IMAP to access procmail-filtered folders on a Unix host. -- /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:41:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29659; Mon, 1 May 95 21:41:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29231; Mon, 1 May 95 21:23:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29225; Mon, 1 May 95 21:23:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s69MD-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ecramer Subject: how to define username ??? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 01:18:29 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, there is one thing I can't figure out. How to change the left-hand side from my header. It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible to set another username. The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired username to my system and start pine beeing that user. Can anybody help me :-( ------------------------------------------------------------------------- p.s. my email adress is ecramer@luna.nl (--NOT-- root@luna.nl, but that is ofcourse my problem I described before, so don't use reply) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peter Dekkers, Rotterdam, Holland. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 21:44:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29778; Mon, 1 May 95 21:44:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24610; Mon, 1 May 95 21:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24604; Mon, 1 May 95 21:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s69TR-00038XC; Mon, 1 May 95 21:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martha Alvarez Subject: unsubscribe Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:39:03 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe comp.mail.pine Martha Alvarez From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 22:15:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00585; Mon, 1 May 95 22:15:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24400; Mon, 1 May 95 21:08:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24394; Mon, 1 May 95 21:08:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s696g-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 20:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 01:31:50 GMT Message-Id: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, Forrest Gump wrote: >In other words you are planning to write something better than Pine. Better than Pine? I'm writing a filtering agent. Since Pine isn't a filtering agent, how can any given filtering agent be "better than Pine"? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 22:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01313; Mon, 1 May 95 22:40:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00266; Mon, 1 May 95 22:29:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00260; Mon, 1 May 95 22:29:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ATO-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 22:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Resending messages - bounce? Date: 2 May 1995 00:45:29 GMT Message-Id: <3o3vb9$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: You can (B)ounce messages in Pine 3.90+ versions after you check the enable-bounce-cmd option in the Setup/Config screen. You need to upgrade from 3.89 to 3.91 for that. Tin-Mala writes in comp.mail.pine: + ~~~~~~~~~~~~Affirmative to the forward being automatically saved. You + have me wondering though about the "bounce" function - I didn't know one + could bounce individual msgs. Please tell me how! -- |~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/|\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~| | N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu | | Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support | | 'course my views don't reflect my Employers, neither mine at times. | |_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\|/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_/~\_| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 23:29:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02249; Mon, 1 May 95 23:29:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25874; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25868; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:36 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25872; Mon, 1 May 95 23:19:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 23:19:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: <3o2tu1$1hla@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > Yay! The Pine development group has been incredible with their work on > this version. Every single minor new feature orbug fix I've been asking > for is supposed to be in it. Great work, guys! Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even most of ours) will make it in. > Now, as long as I'm here, I'll add another request for a minor new > feature...no new bugs in 3.92? ;) 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work quite right for everyone. :-) Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 1 23:59:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02868; Mon, 1 May 95 23:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26182; Mon, 1 May 95 23:44:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26176; Mon, 1 May 95 23:44:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6BcO-00038SC; Mon, 1 May 95 23:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: suggestion Message-Id: Date: 28 Apr 1995 12:03:38 -0300 Status: O X-Status: Heres a suggestion for printers, instead of just locking in a single configuration how about during the print command allowing for an option to modify the current print command. So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to change the name of the printer for this message. -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/people/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 00:14:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03281; Tue, 2 May 95 00:14:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01593; Tue, 2 May 95 00:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01587; Tue, 2 May 95 00:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Bu7-00038TC; Mon, 1 May 95 23:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: new-month messages Date: 1 May 1995 23:23:25 GMT Message-Id: <3o3qhd$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: If you feel, that you might accidently delete your previous sent-mail folders, then change the following option in your .pinerc to 99.9 and you won't be prompted for sent-mail pruning untill Oct 1999. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Carl Reimann writes in comp.mail.pine: + I strongly dislike having Pine ask me if I would like to zap old + sent-mail folders. I could accidentally hit 'y' and loose tons of mail. I + would really like to see a way to turn that feature off as it is + extremely dangerous. + Carl -- __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 01:05:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04630; Tue, 2 May 95 01:05:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26996; Tue, 2 May 95 00:51:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26990; Tue, 2 May 95 00:51:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Cdw-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 00:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Margins in pico Message-Id: References: <3lsg7j$54f@news.ysu.edu> Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 06:15:44 GMT Status: O X-Status: Bob Hogue (bob@cis.ysu.edu) decia: : I'm aware that control-J will rejustify a paragraph for me while using : the pico editor, but is there a way to change what it uses for the line : length when rejustifying? I'd like to make the lines a bit shorter than : what pico defaults to. Tnx for any help. No as far as I now... when I need to have less colums per line I use "joe". Would be nice if the nice people from the pine team at washington can find a way to configure pico for l/r margins :) Pucho : : ------------------------------------------------------------------- : Bob Hogue Computer & Information Sciences : Internet: bob@cis.ysu.edu Youngstown State University : Phone: 216/742-1775 Youngstown, OH 44555 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 01:55:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06012; Tue, 2 May 95 01:55:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02956; Tue, 2 May 95 01:44:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02944; Tue, 2 May 95 01:44:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6DTg-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Fischer Subject: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 2 May 1995 06:38:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". Is there a possibility to either change the format of the lockfiles or to disable lockfiles completely? Thanks for any info, ------------------------------------------------------------------ Christian Fischer ChFi@via.at ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 02:15:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06451; Tue, 2 May 95 02:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27986; Tue, 2 May 95 02:06:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27980; Tue, 2 May 95 02:06:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Dpr-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andries Algera Subject: Lack of memory using PCPINE under WFW + TCP/IP Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 11:03:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: Recently I installed on acouple of PC's WFW+TCP/IP. This should enable me to run the winsocket version of pine3.91. However, at startup pine starts to complain about lack of memory, even after I freed up most of base memory using QEMM. Anyone out there who knows the solution? Thanks, Andries ------------------------------------------------------------ Andries Algera phone: +5561 347-5759 I accept MIME attachments and PGP encrypted messages. For my public PGP key: finger andries@alpha.itu.org.br ------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 02:35:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06823; Tue, 2 May 95 02:35:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03425; Tue, 2 May 95 02:25:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03419; Tue, 2 May 95 02:25:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6E9B-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 20:56:49 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Apr 1995, ben.rose wrote: > Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: > : On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: > > : > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: > : > > : > : Hello all, > : > > : > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, > : > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem > : > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when > : > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by > : > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to > : > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error > : > : today :-( ) and inelegant. > : > > : > > : > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges > : > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next > : > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in > : > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? > : > > : > : Please reply by e-mail. > : > > : > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or > : > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front > : > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. > : > > : And there is even an option so that save will not delete. > > : I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as > : Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. > > Incorrect answer. Zero points > > In the .pinerc file there is a flag that you can set to make it do either. > If you enter a folder name after read-message-folder= > it will save all read mail to this folder marking it deleted in the inbox. > Having this option set means the only mail in the inbox is the unread. > Sorry - I award you ZERO points! That option sets things up so that on exit Pine asks you if you wish to copy all read mail to the "read-message-folder"; only if it does that will it mark the mail deleted. It will then only expunge it if you say yes, unless you have yet another option set. However, in none of the scenarios is it simply marking read mail as deleted ***without taking a copy of it somewhere else***, and even with all these opptions set, you still get the chance to say NO. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This letter was brought to you in association with:- > Ben Rose > of Sunderland, England > > aka ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk > > ******** Why is there so much month left at the end of the money? ******** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:02:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07532; Tue, 2 May 95 03:02:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28408; Tue, 2 May 95 02:51:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28402; Tue, 2 May 95 02:51:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6EVr-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: cmsg cancel <3o407c$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Control: cancel <3o407c$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 2 May 1995 01:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <3o41ah$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:43:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08446; Tue, 2 May 95 03:43:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04297; Tue, 2 May 95 03:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04291; Tue, 2 May 95 03:36:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6FET-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "M.W.Belles" Subject: Help needed to limit scope of postings Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 09:24:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have read in various FAQ's that it is possible to post to a limited geographic area. I just posted to misc.wanted, and I was hoping that PINE would allow me to limit my posting to my local area, but it didn't. Did I miss a switch somewhere? I'd really appreciate some help as I do not want to pollute everyone's newgroup lists with worthless messages. Thanks from a newbie, Mark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 03:56:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08790; Tue, 2 May 95 03:56:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28904; Tue, 2 May 95 03:45:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28898; Tue, 2 May 95 03:45:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6FOA-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elmer@wpi.edu (Andrew Toppan) Subject: Re: How do you erase entries in the Address book? Date: 1 May 1995 12:25:26 GMT Message-Id: <3o2jvm$jjp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: <3o2fdu$5qk@smarty.smart.net> Status: O X-Status: Ken Kovler shaped the electrons to say: : I didn't see any command that would delete an entry in the pine address : book. : If anyone knows how to do this please let me know. How about the 'D' (Delete) command in Addressbook? -- Andrew Toppan --- elmer@wpi.edu --- http://www.wpi.edu/~elmer/ Railroads, Ships and Aircraft Homepage, Tom Clancy FAQ Archive "I am Pentium of Borg. Arithmetic is irrelevant. Prepare to be approximated." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 05:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11281; Tue, 2 May 95 05:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05457; Tue, 2 May 95 04:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05451; Tue, 2 May 95 04:51:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6GNI-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 04:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman) Subject: Pine & Mercury's POP3 server Date: 1 May 1995 22:29:29 -0400 Message-Id: <3o45e9$342@pilot.njin.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to use Pine on a Linux box to access mailboxes on a Novell server running Mercury's POP3 server. As unlikely as it sounds, I've managed to change Pine's global config file to point to the Mercury POP3 server & it works! Sometimes. Unfortunately, Pine craps out a lot of the time. Sometimes when opening the mailbox and sometimes when going from the Main Menu to the Index. I've not yet found any clues about what makes it bomb. Any ideas? If anyone can suggest other ways to access Mercury's mailboxes from a unix machine I'll be happy to hear them. Thanks -- Jay Pfaffman pfaffman@relax.com 802-453-3344 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 05:55:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12442; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00591; Tue, 2 May 95 05:45:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00585; Tue, 2 May 95 05:45:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HEX-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs307319@student.uq.edu.au (Julian Boot) Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: 2 May 1995 12:13:48 GMT Message-Id: <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> References: <3nr97q$nlt@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> <3o2ll8$mm5@orac.sunderland.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: ben.rose (ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk) wrote: : Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation : turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc : all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I : don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. With 3.91 at home under Linux this work fine. But on the Ultrix machine at uni, even with read-messages= set to nothing, it still prompts you to "Save read...in read-mail [Y/N]". It is very annoying. So some versions seem to have different options compiled in. I expect the local sysops are trying to keep the /var/spool/mail partition free of junk... -Julian -- cs307319@student.uq.oz.au -- Computer Science, Uni of Queensland A day without denial is day you've got to face! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12650; Tue, 2 May 95 06:05:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06343; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06337; Tue, 2 May 95 05:55:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HQZ-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca (H. Marc Kneppers) Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: 1 May 1995 16:10:26 -0600 Message-Id: <3o3m8i$33s9@acs5.acs.ucalgary.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > >Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me >and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay >here and there as well) >Thanks, > >Marc Kneppers >knepperm@cuug.ab.ca Sorry, I forgot to mention that the error I get is something like: protocol error: 421 (SMTP connection went away) Marc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12843; Tue, 2 May 95 06:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00743; Tue, 2 May 95 06:00:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00737; Tue, 2 May 95 06:00:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6HVk-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 05:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: Security message Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:15 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > types of problems. Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 Thanks Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:54:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13610; Tue, 2 May 95 06:54:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01272; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01266; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6I9X-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fuzzy Subject: test keyword for post Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 03:04:07 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: added organization header *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the other news posters do. fuz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 06:55:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13641; Tue, 2 May 95 06:55:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07016; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07010; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6I6a-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 00:10:00 GMT Message-Id: <3o3t8o$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: IMAP an MUA ? IMAP is a driver, more appropriately a protocol by which mailfile gets transmitted. It is a much much improved POP3 like protocol. (read Terry Gray's fine article on the diff. between IMAP and POP) You can write an MUA which uses IMAP to download mail from a mail-server. In other words you are planning to write something better than Pine. Good Luck! Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed + nothing...) + I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized + program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that + my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty + commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set + enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes + and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. + Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a + mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let + me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's + current mailbox at login time via IMAP. + My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP + (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix + textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must + write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already + doing them for me. + Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it + the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling + all the locking issues and mail message formats? + (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking + routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go + to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do + let me know.) + -- + Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris + System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology + The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13769; Tue, 2 May 95 07:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07024; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07018; Tue, 2 May 95 06:45:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6IBC-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Help needed to limit scope of postings Date: 1 May 1995 23:45:25 GMT Message-Id: <3o3rql$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: You need an "Distribution:" header, which you can create in the customized-header and then invoke it while composing a post using ^R (for Rich headers) and adding values to it like Distribution: USA Distribution: temple Distribution: world is the default. M.W.Belles writes in comp.mail.pine: + I have read in various FAQ's that it is possible to post to a limited + geographic area. I just posted to misc.wanted, and I was hoping that + PINE would allow me to limit my posting to my local area, but it didn't. + Did I miss a switch somewhere? I'd really appreciate some help as I do + not want to pollute everyone's newgroup lists with worthless messages. + Thanks from a newbie, + Mark -- __ ||| ___MMM___ ||| (o o) (0-0) (o o) ---------oOO--\ /--OOo-----oOO--(_)--OOo-----ooO--\ /--Ooo-------- N. Sriram | Shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu | http://monroe.temple.edu Unixmenu Developer, Macintosh Archivist, WWW Builder, User-Support. Mama always told me "Speak for yourself Son, the World will listen" =================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:14:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14287; Tue, 2 May 95 07:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01472; Tue, 2 May 95 07:01:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01466; Tue, 2 May 95 07:01:38 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA07176; Tue, 2 May 1995 15:00:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:00:47 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: >From the sendmail FAQ: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * Where can I get Version 8? Via anonymous FTP from FTP.CS.Berkeley.EDU in /ucb/sendmail. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Try here for the latest version. Regards Stuart > > > On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > > > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > > types of problems. > > Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? > > I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 > > Thanks > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:26:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14733; Tue, 2 May 95 07:26:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07453; Tue, 2 May 95 07:10:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07447; Tue, 2 May 95 07:10:00 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA12339; Tue, 2 May 1995 10:08:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 10:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Security message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I got mine from "ftp.uu.net" in the "networking" (?) tree (I think it was "networking/mail"?). It was pretty easy to find there... Mike On Thu, 27 Apr 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 09:10:15 -0600 > From: H. Marc Kneppers > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Security message > > > > On 27 Apr 1995 Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM wrote: > > > This is caused by using pine and some versions of sendmail (8.6.9, > > 8.6.10, 8.6.11). Upgrade to sendmail v 8.6.12 which cures most of these > > types of problems. > > Where can I find sendmail.8.6.12? > > I've looked all over and the highest I can get is 8.6.10 > > Thanks > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 07:58:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15690; Tue, 2 May 95 07:58:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02254; Tue, 2 May 95 07:50:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02248; Tue, 2 May 95 07:50:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6JCP-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 07:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: Resending messages - bug? Date: 2 May 1995 00:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <3o3uqb$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Or you can just check the following option in your Setup/Config screen. [X] Save-will-not-delete But still (F)orward or (B)ounce makes more sense.... + Dave Saville writes: + >I have been using the usual suggested methed for resending a message. ie + >saving to postponed-msgs and then compose. + > + >Message is NOT saved to sent-mail - if you forget to toggle the delete flag + >you've lost it. + Why don't you just use the forward or bounce command? I think that + when you forward a message it will automatically get saved in your + default save file but when you bounce a msg it isn't saved. + -- + /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ + ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) + > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 08:55:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03388; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03382; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:53 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01273; Tue, 2 May 95 08:41:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:41:47 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Julian Boot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX In-Reply-To: <3o57ls$7jm@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Julian Boot wrote: > Date: 2 May 1995 12:13:48 GMT > From: Julian Boot > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX > > ben.rose (ha4bro@orac.sunderland.ac.uk) wrote: > > : Sorry I was forgetting the confirmation bit. I have all confirmation > : turned off in my .pinerc file. By setting a read-mail folder in .pinerc > : all read mail is auto saved to read-mail and deleted from the inbox. If I > : don't set it all read-mail stays in the inbox until deleted and or saved. > > With 3.91 at home under Linux this work fine. But on the Ultrix machine > at uni, even with read-messages= set to nothing, it still prompts you > to "Save read...in read-mail [Y/N]". It is very annoying. So some > versions seem to have different options compiled in. I expect > the local sysops are trying to keep the /var/spool/mail partition > free of junk... > There are two system-wide configuration files that can change the behavior here. Default values are set in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and unchangeable settings are set in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed. Check the value of read-message-folder in those files and in your ~/.pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:02:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18260; Tue, 2 May 95 09:02:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03491; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03485; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01365; Tue, 2 May 95 08:45:42 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:45:40 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Taner Halicioglu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine & PGP In-Reply-To: <3num3u$b92@rosebud.sdsc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 30 Apr 1995, Taner Halicioglu wrote: > I have seen about/heard about several scripts to PGP-sign a message that > was written in pine, but I was wondering if this is another thing that > might be included in the next release of pine or not. > The next release of Pine will indeed have hooks to make it easierr to use PGP. You will probably still want a script, but you won't need the alternate-editor hack... > One other small thing about pico: It would be nice if I can change the > point of word wrap on the fly... instead of automagically being -3 chars > from the right edge (or whatever it is) I can set it to column X, or > even maybe column 0 if I don't even want to wrap at all... > We are considering this... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:06:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18945; Tue, 2 May 95 09:06:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09663; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09657; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01757; Tue, 2 May 95 08:55:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:55:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my "pine" incoming folder.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 May 1995, Nancy McGough wrote: > Date: 1 May 1995 14:09:45 -0701 > From: Nancy McGough > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP > > forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) writes: > >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they > >use the IMAP protocol? > > > Do you have shell access to the machine that stores your mail folders? > If so, just set things up in the usual way and the filtered folders > will show up in your Pine folder list. I've set a lot of people up > with PC-Pine to IMAP to access procmail-filtered folders on a Unix host. > -- > /\_/\ @..@ Please make sure your host gets the /\_/\ > ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) new humanities.* newsgroups. Info ( o.o ) > > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) is at http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19366; Tue, 2 May 95 09:21:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04163; Tue, 2 May 95 09:08:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04157; Tue, 2 May 95 09:08:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02989; Tue, 2 May 95 09:07:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:07:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Forrest Gump , Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent In-Reply-To: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: > + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed > + nothing...) > There is an IMAP mailing list. Send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu to subscribe... > + I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized > + program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that > + my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty > + commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set > + enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes > + and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. > > + Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a > + mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let > + me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's > + current mailbox at login time via IMAP. > Great! Let us know how it works... > + My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP > + (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix > + textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must > + write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already > + doing them for me. > Correct, mailbox locking is the responsibility of the IMAP server in this situation. > + Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it > + the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling > + all the locking issues and mail message formats? > I wouldn't call IMAP an MUA, just a message access protocol :) BTW, are you writing the IMAP code from scratch or using the c-client library? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19472; Tue, 2 May 95 09:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04217; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04211; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Tue, 2 May 95 09:10:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you put the entry in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, you don't need to edit anyone's .pinerc file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 03:04:07 GMT > From: Fuzzy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: test keyword for post > > > added organization header > > *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho > > there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION > picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the > other news posters do. > > fuz > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:42:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20046; Tue, 2 May 95 09:42:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09820; Tue, 2 May 95 09:00:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09814; Tue, 2 May 95 09:00:24 -0700 Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24673; Tue, 2 May 95 08:59:58 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 08:59:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin To: Christian Fischer Cc: Terry Gray , Pine Suggestions , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? In-Reply-To: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Message-Id: Organization: Networks & Distributed Computing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The brief answer to your question is "no". The name of the lockfile is something that is established by convention on Unix, and is used by other Unix tools. Since other Unix tools use mail files as well, what you're trying to do isn't likely to work well. We do, however, provide source code, so you can try to modify the routine bezerk_lock() in imap/c-client/bezerk.c so that it doesn't try to make the files. You may find that this is problematic for other reasons though. Are you aware that the Unix mbox format is only supported as a read-only format in PC-Pine? If you want a read-write format on both systems, you need to use the MTX format. The file name for INBOX is INBOX.MTX in the home directory. This is a non-standard format for Unix. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 2 May 1995, Christian Fischer wrote: > I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local > message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the > folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses > a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to > the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs > for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". > > Is there a possibility to either change the format of the lockfiles or to > disable lockfiles completely? > > Thanks for any info, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Christian Fischer ChFi@via.at > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 09:51:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20534; Tue, 2 May 95 09:51:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10945; Tue, 2 May 95 09:41:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jupiter.stat.wisc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10939; Tue, 2 May 95 09:41:26 -0700 Received: by jupiter.stat.wisc.edu; Tue, 2 May 95 11:36:25 -0500 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 11:36:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Douglas Bates To: Mike Brudenell Cc: "Douglas M. Bates" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix Pine: Must the config be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > The names of the configuration and fixed configuration files are held in > operating system specific include files. Going off memory these live in > the pine/osdep/ directory of your unpacked Pine kit. Find the > appropriate .h file and modify the neam(s) appropriately. Thanks for the hint - it worked fine. I believe there are still several explicit references to the files /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed in the documentation that is compiled into pine, however. This could be moderately confusing to users. Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 10:39:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22359; Tue, 2 May 95 10:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12044; Tue, 2 May 95 10:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12038; Tue, 2 May 95 10:30:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6LjL-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 02:48:37 GMT Message-Id: <3o46mf$okj@nntp.interaccess.com> References: <3o3p7m$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: shrim@bubba.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) wrote: >This means the user was using Pine and at the same time another POP >e-mail s/w (like Eudora) which made a mailcheck and downloaded the >mail. I have had users recieve messages saying INBOX shrank to 0bytes. >Make sure they use one MUA to read mail at any given time. This may sometimes be a cause of this but it is not the only one. I had this problem for a while from only one person sending me mail from their site. When they sent from a differrent site (different mailer) no problem. I am absolutely sure I am the only one reading my mailbox and only (always) with pine. I tried a binary analysis of the mailfile but could not find any differences. ================== Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 10:59:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22984; Tue, 2 May 95 10:59:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06290; Tue, 2 May 95 10:50:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06284; Tue, 2 May 95 10:50:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Lzj-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwardy@mana.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Edward Yagi) Subject: Re: Silly question Date: 1 May 1995 21:21:58 GMT Message-Id: <3o3jdm$ofe@kahu.mrtc.maui.com> References: <3nlglq$igb@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: Isaac Hepworth (ijh1000@cam.ac.uk) wrote: : Silly question, but the right place to put it I think : : Why is pine called pine? >From what I understand, pine stands for P ine I s N ot E lm *shrug* or should that be.. *shrub* Edward yagi -- H I G H T E C H N O L O G Y D E V E L O P M E N T C O R P O R A T I O N EDWARD K. Y A G I - Hawaii State Agency - Hawaii Software Service Center Computer Specialist - phone:(808)539-3608 - M a n o a Innovation Center edwardy@htdc.org - f a x:(808)539-3611 - 2800 Woodlawn Drive Suite 100 G E T W E B B E D - http://www.htdc.org - Honolulu, Hawaii 96822-1863 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 11:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23092; Tue, 2 May 95 11:01:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12680; Tue, 2 May 95 10:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12674; Tue, 2 May 95 10:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6M3t-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iuguest@ix.netcom.com (IU) Subject: NetCruiser and PCPine Date: 29 Apr 1995 06:08:29 GMT Message-Id: <3nsl4t$ch6@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone with a NetCruiser account gotten PCPine to work on their remote PC? I am trying to use /usr/spool/mail/myname for the inbox and maill.ix.netcom.com as the SMTP as I caught from a message a little while ago, but truthfully I don't remember if that was right. If anyone has any ideas please help! IUguest@ix.netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 12:32:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28017; Tue, 2 May 95 12:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08303; Tue, 2 May 95 12:21:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08297; Tue, 2 May 95 12:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6NO1-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: Inbox path on a VAX (possible?) Message-Id: <1995May2.115353@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 2 May 95 11:53:53 MDT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible for Pine (on a PC) to access the mail files on a VAX. The VAX and the PC have IP addresses. The VAX is running PMDF and VMS pine. I cant seem to find an acceptable "inbox path". I'm Trying to find a multiplatform mail program (VMS, PC and MAC) and I was hoping PINE might be able to do it. John Marshall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 13:33:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01771; Tue, 2 May 95 13:33:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16521; Tue, 2 May 95 13:12:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16515; Tue, 2 May 95 13:12:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6OEf-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@YFN.YSU.EDU (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 19:50:26 GMT Message-Id: <3o62e2$nuv@news.ysu.edu> References: <3o4226$1d3f@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) says: >> Trey Harris writes in comp.mail.pine: >> + (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed >> + nothing...) > >There is an IMAP mailing list. Send a message to >imap-request@cac.washington.edu to subscribe... I note with glee that, similar to the pine-info mailing list, the IMAP discussion is archived on the Pine FTP server. This means that it can be accessed via anonymous IMAP, for people who want to catch up, but without downloading the whole archive, or for people who want to drop in and listen without actually subscribing. As noted in a previous post, the syntax for accessing it is specific to Pine3.xx and IMAP2bis, but for now it looks like this list, and a list for discussing the C-Client, can be snooped on with folder specifications Folder-Name *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}imap/[imap_archive] or /[c-client_archive] . There may well be other mailing list archives elsewhere on this server, or perhaps there are other servers with additional mailing list archives which would be of interest to people to browse in this manner... Now I have yet another excuse not to have a life! Yay!! -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 13:57:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02963; Tue, 2 May 95 13:57:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10241; Tue, 2 May 95 13:35:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10235; Tue, 2 May 95 13:35:11 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HQ12H80X0G8WVYPK@INNOSOFT.COM>; Tue, 02 May 1995 13:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 02 May 1995 13:34:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Inbox path on a VAX (possible?) In-Reply-To: <1995May2.115353@ns.rdc.ab.ca> To: jmarshall@ns.rdc.ab.ca Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995 jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca wrote: > > Is it possible for Pine (on a PC) to access the mail files > on a VAX. The VAX and the PC have IP addresses. The VAX is > running PMDF and VMS pine. I cant seem to find an acceptable > "inbox path". Is it running the IMAP server also? you should be able to use Pine to access the mail file on VMS if yes. > > I'm Trying to find a multiplatform mail program (VMS, PC and > MAC) and I was hoping PINE might be able to do it. try inbox-path={VMSsystemname}INBOX or inbox-path={VMSsystemname}NEWMAIL you can also have in the folder-collections something like folder-collections=vax {VMSsystemname}[], other things... > > > John Marshall > > > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 15:18:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07114; Tue, 2 May 95 15:18:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12179; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12173; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Pyw-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 1 May 1995 15:38:38 GMT Message-Id: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed nothing...) I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's current mailbox at login time via IMAP. My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already doing them for me. Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling all the locking issues and mail message formats? (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do let me know.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 15:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07592; Tue, 2 May 95 15:27:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19330; Tue, 2 May 95 15:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from p15.tpl0.nwrain.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19314; Tue, 2 May 95 15:04:48 -0700 Received: by pppbox.baby-dragons.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA01483; Tue, 2 May 95 15:06:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 15:06:37 -0700 (PDT) From: babydr X-Sender: babydr@pppbox.baby-dragons.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I seem to have something amiss here . Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gents/Ladies, I'm not sure what I did wrong the second time but pine just won't compile now, also the reason I was re-compiling pine was to get 'imapd' which didn't get made the first time. So I thought I'd just start over. Now, only pico compiles !? :-{ stats: DEC Vax, Ultrix v4.2 (yes I know it's old, but all I have) DEC cc, ( I also have gcc2.5.7 But don't seem to be able to use it here ? ) appended is the log file for a fresh dir-tree of pine3.91. ThranxAI, Jim ---------------------------- build logfile ---------------------------------- make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=ult echo ult > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make ult make mtest OS=ult EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= " LDFLAGS="-lauth" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo ult > OSTYPE echo -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lauth > LDFLAGS ln -s os_ult.h osdep.h cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mail.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c bezerk.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtx.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c tenex2.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mbox.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mh.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mmdf.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c imap2.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c pop3.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c news.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c phile.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c dummy.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c smtp.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntp.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c rfc822.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c misc.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_ult.c mv os_ult.o osdep.o cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c newsrc.c rm -f c-client.a ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o ranlib c-client.a cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtest.c cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lauth ld:800: cannot open *** Error code 4 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 *** Error code 1 Making Pico rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g attach.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g ansi.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g basic.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g bind.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g browse.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g buffer.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g composer.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g display.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g file.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g fileio.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g line.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g osdep.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g pico.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g random.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g region.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g search.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g spell.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g tcap.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g window.c cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g word.c ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o ranlib libpico.a cc -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -lc -o pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c addrbook.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c adrbklib.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c args.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c context.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c filter.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c folder.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c imap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c init.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcmd.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailindx.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailpart.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailview.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c newmail.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c other.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c pine.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c print.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c reply.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c screen.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c send.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c signals.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c status.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c strings.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyin.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyout.c cd osdep; make includer os-ult.c; cd .. cc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-ult.ic > os-ult.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-ult.c os.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c os.c echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c cc -c -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -o date.o date.c cc: -o would overwrite date.o *** Error code 8 Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine not found size: bin/mtest not found size: bin/imapd not found text data bss dec hex 131072 27648 14268 172988 2a3bc bin/pico Done From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 16:04:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09271; Tue, 2 May 95 16:04:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20601; Tue, 2 May 95 15:56:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20595; Tue, 2 May 95 15:56:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6QlO-00038RC; Tue, 2 May 95 15:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 16:06:39 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:24:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17434; Tue, 2 May 95 17:24:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14896; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14890; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6RrI-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bagwill@dove.nist.gov (Robert Bagwill) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 2 May 1995 17:50:23 GMT Message-Id: <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Trey Harris (harris@email.unc.edu) wrote: : Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a : mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let : me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's : current mailbox at login time via IMAP. You don't have to install procmail as a delivery-time filter. Using the -m flag, users can invoke it themselves, or it can be invoked on their behalf by a script. Of course, I don't know what your configuration is, so I don't know if that's feasible for you. -- Bob Bagwill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:26:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17492; Tue, 2 May 95 17:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27733; Tue, 2 May 95 17:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27727; Tue, 2 May 95 17:11:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Rxf-00038TC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: cmsg cancel <3nr6me$kv5@grape.epix.net> Control: cancel <3nr6me$kv5@grape.epix.net> Date: 28 Apr 1995 17:00:44 GMT Message-Id: <3nr6vs$8f@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 17:37:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17934; Tue, 2 May 95 17:37:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15222; Tue, 2 May 95 17:26:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15216; Tue, 2 May 95 17:25:58 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 3 May 95 08:24:39 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 08:24:38 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "H. Marc Kneppers" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? > > Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. > There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if > the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. > It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is > a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. > > Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon > instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) What TCP/IP stack are you running on the PC? I've seen problems with FTP Software's stack in version 2.3 and below. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:10:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18614; Tue, 2 May 95 18:10:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15542; Tue, 2 May 95 17:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15536; Tue, 2 May 95 17:46:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6STS-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 17:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 12:50:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server > > somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system > > will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you > > (e.g. your local UNIX machine). > > > > You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server > > configuration parameter. > > > > I've got the server - you're right, it's our local UNIX machine. > WHen I send mail however, it doesn't work. I get the messages that the > SMTP connection "went away". > THe machine I am connecting to is running svr4 UNIX and it handles SMTP > just fine. > I've got the smtp-server configuration parameter set to the UNIX machine's > name and that works fine since I can go to the UNIX machine and > get IMAP to serve me a file. > > Are there any permissions that I need to set or extra files that I need to > enter the IMAP service in (other than /etc/services and inetd.conf)? > > Does SMTP need to be told to expect mail from outside the local machine > or does IMAp take care of that? We aren't connected to the net yet but we do > have IP addressed on the UNIX machine and the PC's > > Thanks > Marc Kneppers > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:42:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19316; Tue, 2 May 95 18:42:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29000; Tue, 2 May 95 18:31:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28994; Tue, 2 May 95 18:31:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TDg-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cn1491@coastalnet.com (Shannon Adams) Subject: Re: From Address Wrong in Pine Date: 3 May 1995 00:55:21 GMT Message-Id: <3o6k9r$shk@treasure.coastalnet.com> References: <3o1cca$d5q@treasure.coastalnet.com> Status: O X-Status: Second request: Please help! >When I use mailx, my FROM: address is shannona@htc8500.com which is correct. >However, when using Pine, my FROM: is htc8500!shannona - what gives? >I assume this is a configuration issue. Please help. All of my >mail is bouncing when someone replies to me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 18:55:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19616; Tue, 2 May 95 18:55:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16246; Tue, 2 May 95 18:46:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16240; Tue, 2 May 95 18:46:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TRZ-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 18:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 97dc@williams.edu (DeWitt Clinton) Subject: Switching to emacs Date: Mon, 01 May 1995 11:48:43 -0500 Message-Id: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all, I was hoping switch to emacs as the default editor for pine on SunOS 4.3. Here is the line from my .pinerc editor=/usr/local/bin/emacs Obviously, it doesn't work or I wouldn't be posting here. When I compose it drops me right into pico. Any ideas? -DeWitt ____________________________________________________________________ | DeWitt Clinton \ http://wso.williams.edu/wso.html / H A V E | | Williams College \ _WilliamsSTUDENTSOnline_ / A G R A | | Williamstown, Ma \ Virtual Campus Information / T E F U | | 97dc@williams.edu \ Server / L D A Y | |____________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 19:39:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20923; Tue, 2 May 95 19:39:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16633; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16627; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:57 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09249; Tue, 2 May 95 19:17:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 18:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Shannon Adams Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: From Address Wrong in Pine In-Reply-To: <3o6k9r$shk@treasure.coastalnet.com> Message-Id: X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Shannon, When you look at your sent-mail folder, what do the From: lines look like? If the sent-mail From: lines are correct, the problem is outside of Pine. If these are incorrect: Do you have Pine's user-domain variable set? -teg On 3 May 1995, Shannon Adams wrote: > Second request: Please help! > > >When I use mailx, my FROM: address is shannona@htc8500.com which is correct. > >However, when using Pine, my FROM: is htc8500!shannona - what gives? > >I assume this is a configuration issue. Please help. All of my > >mail is bouncing when someone replies to me. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 19:40:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20989; Tue, 2 May 95 19:40:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29711; Tue, 2 May 95 19:21:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29705; Tue, 2 May 95 19:21:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6TyS-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 19:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent In-Reply-To: harris@email.unc.edu's message of 1 May 1995 15: 38:38 GMT Message-Id: References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:17:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do let me know.) Procmail includes a standalone utility, lockfile, that is emminently suitable for calling from a script. You'd need to build it on the same host where your IMAP client would reside. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 21:21:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23274; Tue, 2 May 95 21:21:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18051; Tue, 2 May 95 21:17:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18045; Tue, 2 May 95 21:17:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6VoA-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 21:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 12:39:04 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, OK, I've got PC-Pine ... I've got Unix Pine ... I've got the imapd running ... I've got TCP/IP on the PC running. I can access my mail folders on the Unix machine with PC-Pine via imapd. This is GREAT, works well. (for windows, by the way). Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay here and there as well) What's wrong? Do I need something else, like an SMTP gateway (this is what the PC guy tells me is required for commercial packages - but it costs big bucks) ? I thought that Pine took care of this. Help, I am a little confused. On a second minor point - how do I get PC-Pine to see an addressbook on the Unix machine. (or a signature for that matter)? When I specify {machine.here.there}/path/.addressbook it just creates a file on my PC's hard drive called c:/{machine.her Thanks, Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 21:41:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23637; Tue, 2 May 95 21:41:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01818; Tue, 2 May 95 21:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01812; Tue, 2 May 95 21:37:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6W6W-00038QC; Tue, 2 May 95 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gotthard Saghi-Szabo Subject: Re: Display of sending person's name in folders Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 14:46:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I thank to all of you who responded to my request. It was very helpful. Take care, Gotthard -- personal email : gotthard@Glue.umd.edu Hungarian-American list : hungary@Glue.umd.edu WWW : http://www.glue.umd.edu/~gotthard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 22:10:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24225; Tue, 2 May 95 22:10:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18565; Tue, 2 May 95 22:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isisa.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18559; Tue, 2 May 95 22:02:28 -0700 Received: by email.unc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA145513; Wed, 3 May 1995 01:02:26 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:02:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Trey Harris X-Sender: harris@isisa.oit.unc.edu To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even > most of ours) will make it in. Hm. Has my request for a flag to drop you into the composer with a given file (possibly with headers, which Pine will use) been considered? For those of us who need/want to use newsreaders other than Pine, we would love to be able to chuck whatever mail composer the newsreader furnishes and use Pine instead. I've looked at the Compose code, and it looks like it would be fairly easy to implement. > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work > quite right for everyone. :-) That's okay, just as long as you don't mean it won't work quite right for anyone. :) Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:32:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26459; Tue, 2 May 95 23:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03470; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03464; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28178; Tue, 2 May 95 23:26:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:26:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Marcos Rubinstein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Margins in pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > Would be nice if the nice people from the pine team at washington > can find a way to configure pico for l/r margins :) > > Pucho Right margin in composer will be configurable in pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:35:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26587; Tue, 2 May 95 23:35:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19715; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19709; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28306; Tue, 2 May 95 23:31:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:31:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > On Mon, 1 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > Thanks, but you're just lucky. Not everyone's feature requests (not even > > most of ours) will make it in. > > Hm. Has my request for a flag to drop you into the composer with a given > file (possibly with headers, which Pine will use) been considered? For > those of us who need/want to use newsreaders other than Pine, we would > love to be able to chuck whatever mail composer the newsreader furnishes > and use Pine instead. I've looked at the Compose code, and it looks like > it would be fairly easy to implement. I remember seeing your message and we still have it but have not discussed it. It sounds like a reasonable feature but it doesn't sound totally trivial to implement, on first thought. It will be considered. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:37:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26648; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03422; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03416; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28128; Tue, 2 May 95 23:24:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We have noted that it would sometimes be useful for some config variables to have a system-wide list that gets added to instead of replaced when a user changes their own version of the same variable. We haven't had time to think about how to do that yet but will definitely try to do something before 3.92, I think. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > > added organization header > > *sigh* still thing we shouldnt have to edit all users files .pinerc's tho > > there has to be a simpler way to get the enviroment variable ORGANZATION > picked up as the organization: header value by default, like all the > other news posters do. > > fuz > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue May 2 23:42:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26867; Tue, 2 May 95 23:42:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19822; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19816; Tue, 2 May 95 23:37:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Xz4-00038SC; Tue, 2 May 95 23:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mherz@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca (Michael Herz) Subject: Remote folders won't open Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 20:52:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm having a little trouble trying to configure PC Pine on my PC to read my mail folders on my UNIX account. They don't want to appear when requested to do so in the folder list. However, if I try to explicitly open the folder by using goto and typing the folder name it will open. Also, I get an error message IMAP error: Command Unrecognised: create if I try to add a folder. Any help would be appreciated. Also, is it possible to embed the UNIX login and password in the program call? ____________________________________________________ Michael Herz Civil Engineering University of Waterloo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 00:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28623; Wed, 3 May 95 00:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04630; Wed, 3 May 95 00:41:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04624; Wed, 3 May 95 00:41:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Yz7-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 00:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: I seem to have something amiss here . Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:18:46 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Do a "build clean" and then use "build vul" instead of "build ult". The vul port is for VAX Ultrix. As I remember, the only differences was in switches to the C compiler. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 2 May 1995, babydr wrote: > > Gents/Ladies, > I'm not sure what I did wrong the second time > but pine just won't compile now, also the reason I was > re-compiling pine was to get 'imapd' which didn't get made > the first time. So I thought I'd just start over. > Now, only pico compiles !? :-{ > > stats: DEC Vax, Ultrix v4.2 (yes I know it's old, but all I have) > DEC cc, ( I also have gcc2.5.7 But don't seem > to be able to use it here ? ) > > appended is the log file for a fresh dir-tree of pine3.91. > > > ThranxAI, Jim > > ---------------------------- build logfile ---------------------------------- > > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=ult > echo ult > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s non-ANSI systype > cd non-ANSI/c-client; make ult > make mtest OS=ult EXTRADRIVERS="" STDPROTO=bezerkproto CFLAGS="-g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= " LDFLAGS="-lauth" > ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy > rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h > echo ult > OSTYPE > echo -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= > CFLAGS > echo -lauth > LDFLAGS > ln -s os_ult.h osdep.h > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mail.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c bezerk.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtx.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c tenex2.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mbox.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mh.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mmdf.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c imap2.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c pop3.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c news.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntpcunx.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c phile.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c dummy.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c smtp.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c nntp.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c rfc822.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c misc.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/ucb/rsh\" -c os_ult.c > mv os_ult.o osdep.o > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c sm_unix.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c newsrc.c > rm -f c-client.a > ar rc c-client.a mail.o bezerk.o mtx.o tenex2.o mbox.o mh.o mmdf.o imap2.o pop3.o news.o nntpcunx.o phile.o dummy.o smtp.o nntp.o rfc822.o misc.o osdep.o sm_unix.o newsrc.o > ranlib c-client.a > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -c mtest.c > cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lauth > ld:800: cannot open > *** Error code 4 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > *** Error code 1 > > Making Pico > rm -f osdep.c > cp os_unix.c osdep.c > rm -f osdep.h > cp os_unix.h osdep.h > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g attach.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g ansi.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g basic.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g bind.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g browse.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g buffer.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g composer.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g display.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g file.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g fileio.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g line.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g osdep.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g pico.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g random.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g region.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g search.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g spell.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g tcap.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g window.c > cc -c -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g word.c > ar ru libpico.a attach.o ansi.o basic.o bind.o browse.o buffer.o composer.o display.o file.o fileio.o line.o osdep.o pico.o random.o region.o search.o spell.o tcap.o window.o word.o > ranlib libpico.a > cc -Dult -DJOB_CONTROL -g main.c libpico.a -ltermcap -lc -o pico > > Making Pine. > rm -f os.h > ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h > ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c addrbook.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c adrbklib.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c args.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c context.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c filter.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c folder.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c help.c > ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c helptext.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c imap.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c init.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcap.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailcmd.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailindx.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailpart.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c mailview.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c newmail.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c other.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c pine.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c print.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c reply.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c screen.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c send.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c signals.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c status.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c strings.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyin.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c ttyout.c > cd osdep; make includer os-ult.c; cd .. > cc -o includer includer.c > ./includer < os-ult.ic > os-ult.c > rm -f os.c > ln -s osdep/os-ult.c os.c > cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c os.c > echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c > cc -c -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -o date.o date.c > cc: -o would overwrite date.o > *** Error code 8 > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: bin/pine not found > size: bin/mtest not found > size: bin/imapd not found > text data bss dec hex > 131072 27648 14268 172988 2a3bc bin/pico > > Done > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 01:35:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00218; Wed, 3 May 95 01:35:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21219; Wed, 3 May 95 01:30:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21210; Wed, 3 May 95 01:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Zmc-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 01:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 17:43:42 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Did you try changing the smtp-server variable in PC-Pine to point to some other UNIX server? Unfortunately, this sort of thing is very difficult to debug remotely; also most versions of PC-Pine do not have any way to record debugging telemetry (it'd be interesting to see where in the SMTP transaction it chokes). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > "security" feature on the UNIX machine that prevents SMTP from the PC from > > working. Can you telnet to port 25 on the UNIX server from the PC? > > Yup. I can telnet to port 25 and also port 143 if that helps any. > There's an ethernet connection between the PC and Unix. I'm not sure if > the Unix machine even knows that the request is coming from a PC. > It's (supposedly) standard Svr4 UNIX, with a few Tandem add-ons. If it is > a security feature - I haven't heard of it through the local documentation. > > Would you expect anything different if I was running the sendmail daemon > instead of smtpd? (I somehow doubt it.) > > Marc > kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 01:53:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00586; Wed, 3 May 95 01:53:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05626; Wed, 3 May 95 01:45:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05620; Wed, 3 May 95 01:45:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6Zx0-00038gC; Wed, 3 May 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rosss@primenet.com (Scott Ross) Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT Message-Id: <3o6vpu$g91@news4.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why would it be so large? Thanks in advance... Scott Ross rosss@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 06:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07629; Wed, 3 May 95 06:05:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24062; Wed, 3 May 95 05:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24055; Wed, 3 May 95 05:30:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6dWB-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 05:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BRENNAN@HAL.HAHNEMANN.EDU (A. Andrew Brennan) Subject: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: 29 Apr 1995 00:25:28 GMT Message-Id: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: Ok ... I've checked in the Pine technical notes, the comp.mail.pine directory in RTFM's Usenet FAQ archive and some of the notes with the IMAPd code I picked up for Linux. Can't seem to find the answer to this - just hints. How's one setup anonymously accessible folders? I'm interested in dumping our old BULLETIN system and replacing it with folders that people can access using the Pine mailer (or other IMAP clients). Given what little I've seen so far, I'm not sure that this is the implementation I want to use ... but it might be. andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 06:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08289; Wed, 3 May 95 06:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09229; Wed, 3 May 95 06:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ASARian.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09217; Wed, 3 May 95 06:03:16 -0700 Received: from ASARian.org (fuzzy@asarian.org [165.254.1.206]) by ASARian.org (8.6.10/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA00126; Wed, 3 May 1995 09:03:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:03:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Fuzzy To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: *fuzzies* and *e-hugs* Return-Reciept-To: Fuzzy@asarian.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 23:24:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Steve Hubert > To: Fuzzy > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: test keyword for post > > We have noted that it would sometimes be useful for some config variables > to have a system-wide list that gets added to instead of replaced when a > user changes their own version of the same variable. We haven't had time > to think about how to do that yet but will definitely try to do something > before 3.92, I think. Thanks. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > something like pine.conf.added (like pine.conf.fixed). yes, thats exactly what we need for this one :). any projections on when 3.92 will be available? fuz > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > > > > > added organization header > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 07:21:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09918; Wed, 3 May 95 07:21:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10377; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10371; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6f91-00038SC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fbennett@cais.com Subject: Looking for Pine Date: 2 May 1995 15:55:42 GMT Message-Id: <3o5klu$qr0@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I have Pine 3.89 for Linux and was looking for the latest version. Also If anyone has information or software for a POP server could you please e-mail me. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 07:28:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10249; Wed, 3 May 95 07:28:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25300; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25294; Wed, 3 May 95 07:15:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6f95-00038TC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fbennett@cais.com Subject: Latest version of Pine. Date: 2 May 1995 16:00:07 GMT Message-Id: <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 08:00:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11792; Wed, 3 May 95 08:00:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11062; Wed, 3 May 95 07:51:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11056; Wed, 3 May 95 07:50:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6fkf-00038WC; Wed, 3 May 95 07:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 1 May 1995 22:05:43 GMT Message-Id: <3o3lvn$et0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com>, Forrest Aldrich wrote: >How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they >use the IMAP protocol? Three ways that I know of: 1. Do not "seal" your IMAP server, i.e. run your IMAP server as an ordinary machine capable of serving user logins. Then IMAP won't even come into it because your mail transport agent will notice the .forward file in the user's home directory and deliver to the program (such as procmail). 2. Use Pine to do aggregate-command-set selection using the semicolon key followed by the (A)pply key. Many of the things the average procmail user wants to do can be implemented in this way. However, it must be done by hand every time you log in (or you could alias a pine command that had initial keystrokes, but that would be complicated). 3. If you must seal your IMAP server (and to me, at least, this is one of the primary reasons for using IMAP) and the Pine aggregate-command-set isn't powerful enough, then write a program which connects to the IMAP daemon, does the appropriate searches, and takes action on the messages returned. There may be other ways, too. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 09:47:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17077; Wed, 3 May 95 09:47:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13791; Wed, 3 May 95 09:32:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13785; Wed, 3 May 95 09:32:45 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15988; Wed, 3 May 95 09:30:52 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:30:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: test keyword for post In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Fuzzy wrote: > something like pine.conf.added (like pine.conf.fixed). > > yes, thats exactly what we need for this one :). No promises that will do something that general. There are problems with that approach, too. > any projections on when 3.92 will be available? No. Not real soon now. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 10:45:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23548; Wed, 3 May 95 10:45:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29625; Wed, 3 May 95 10:36:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29619; Wed, 3 May 95 10:36:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6iJs-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 10:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Including Single Message from a Folder Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:37:46 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am new on this group, so please excuse me if this question has already been asked and answered. When using the Pine composer (under Unix, in my case), is there a way to include the text of a single message from a folder? (I already know about ^R to read in a whole file.) Pointers to documentation are fine. Thanks. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 12:11:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27023; Wed, 3 May 95 12:11:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01265; Wed, 3 May 95 11:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pogo.den.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01259; Wed, 3 May 95 11:48:25 -0700 Received: by pogo.den.mmc.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18846; Wed, 3 May 95 12:48:23 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 12:48:23 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael S Hartman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem sending mail to a profs user! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can i send mail to profs?? The users node is ge1vm the i.d. is I106 I appreciate any help. Thanks, Mike Hartman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 12:22:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27325; Wed, 3 May 95 12:22:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22565; Wed, 3 May 95 12:16:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22559; Wed, 3 May 95 12:16:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6jqx-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Suggestion: Completion for Address Book Names/Fcc Folder Names Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 13:38:01 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I guess I don't really have to add much more after that Subject line, do I? ;) Anyway... My folder names are the same as the names in my address book, so, when saving a mail, I use something like "ni". And so, when entering a nickname in the To/Cc/Bcc field of a message header, I often try to do the same thing... But just end up with, for example, ni@aber.ac.uk. So anyway, I just think that adding tab completion for that (and maybe also for Fcc folder names) would be neat and very useful. Thanks to anyone who listens... :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 13:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04605; Wed, 3 May 95 13:25:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02998; Wed, 3 May 95 13:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02992; Wed, 3 May 95 13:11:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6kiC-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ramon J. Hontanon" Subject: Defining the NNTP "Path" line Date: Thu, 27 Apr 1995 11:16:25 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hiya! I'm wondering it PINE allows you to fiddle with the Path line at the top of a USENET article: Path: template.com!news1.digex.net!news2.digex.net!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprint link.net!news.cais.com!NewsWatcher!user Our xrn users can customize this line for outgoing postings, but a lot of people are switching to PINE to post to USENET, and we'd like to have them do the same thing. Thanks a lot! -- ramon _____________________________________________________________ Ramon J. Hontanon ramon.hontanon@template.com Template Software Herndon, VA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 14:14:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11065; Wed, 3 May 95 14:14:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05490; Wed, 3 May 95 13:56:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05484; Wed, 3 May 95 13:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6lQL-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:14:52 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > Did you try changing the smtp-server variable in PC-Pine to point to some > other UNIX server? Unfortunately, this sort of thing is very difficult > to debug remotely; also most versions of PC-Pine do not have any way to > record debugging telemetry (it'd be interesting to see where in the SMTP > transaction it chokes). No luck, we're not on the net and only have one UNIX server. We've been playing around with the tcp/ip stack etc. on the pc's but nothing has worked yet. Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 14:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12200; Wed, 3 May 95 14:36:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04593; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04587; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6lvr-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rene Grothmann Subject: Pine 7 bit ASCII, help! Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:32:01 +0200 (DFT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How can I prevent PINE from converting my ASCII-Code above 127 to strange items =95 a.s.o. That on relly hurts. It effectively prevents me from sending german messages. Rene From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 15:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15939; Wed, 3 May 95 15:48:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08278; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08271; Wed, 3 May 95 15:41:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6n4R-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: negaard@draagen.graceland.edu (Oberon) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 03 May 1995 21:10:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> <3o727i$pbr@sundog.tiac.net> In-Reply-To: phl@cyways.com's message of 3 May 1995 04:53:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: >>>>> "Peter" == Peter H Lemieux writes: Peter> In article <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at>, ChFi@via.at says... >> I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same >> local message folders under both OS. Peter> You could add an NFS client like XFS to your DOS stack and put Peter> the folders on the Linux partition. Another choice would be to run an 'imapd' on your mail-provider (provided you have that kind of power). Then you can set things up so that both pine versions get their mail and keep their local message folders on the remote machine. If I've jumped in in the middle, and don't understand what you're really asking, please accept my apologies. -- o David Negaard o negaard@graceland.edu o Help Desk Technician o http://www.graceland.edu/~negaard o 700 College Avenue o linux-phile o Lamoni, IA 50140 o 73 de KB0PXK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 15:48:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15970; Wed, 3 May 95 15:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06399; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06393; Wed, 3 May 95 15:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6n4t-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: PC pine can't send mail (all else ok) Message-Id: <1995May3.135249@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 3 May 95 13:52:49 MDT Status: O X-Status: I have just installed Pine on a PC. It is using an IMAP server on a VAX running PMDF. I can access my folders okay but when I try to send a message first it: Balked the default-Fcc: couldnt open it, create?. If you said yes it beeped twice and returned to the To: field. When I changed the configuration to "" for default-Fcc it just beeped twice and returned to the To: prompt without telling me anything. Is there a log somewhere to see the error message (if any)?. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 16:25:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17816; Wed, 3 May 95 16:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09203; Wed, 3 May 95 16:17:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09197; Wed, 3 May 95 16:17:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6nd5-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Internet Incite Subject: wondering why??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 16:54:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: I was told that at my college I was not aloud to upgrade my version of pine 3.87 to the new version that is in my update section 3.91. I was wondering if anyone would be able to help me understand this. I thought that if my account was ever upgraded it would have to be upgraded from within my account and that would have to be from within my account protected password section of the unix system. I am on a DEC-ALPHA system that runs on a 56K leased line. The only way I am able to post to this newsgroup is from within my updated version of pine I am using in a different connection that I pay for seperate from school account. I really enjoy the 3.91 section over the 3.87 version. Still searching for the ISH parking lot attendant of which there seems to be none. Misfits {ISH: Information Super Highway} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 17:29:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21242; Wed, 3 May 95 17:29:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08842; Wed, 3 May 95 17:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08836; Wed, 3 May 95 17:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6oai-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 17:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marcus Eric Harris Subject: Running IMAP/RIMAP With PC-Pine 3.91... Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 21:17:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm looking for information on configuring PC-Pine 3.91 to work with the IMAP/RIMAP daemons on a file server. My PC is running the following: . DOS 6.22 . Windows For Workgroups (3.11) -- Workgroups deactivated . PC-NFS 5.1a . PC-Pine 3.91 for Windows When I run the application in Windows, it attempts to access the remote inbox ({serverName}inbox) the way that it should. The problem appears to be occurring when the authentication process begins. I continually get problems trying to bind to the IMAP daemon and I believe the problem MAY be the fact that a password must be validated by the IMAP daemon to gain access to the remote inbox. We have been able to successfully access remote inboxes via IMAP in heterogeneous SPARC environments, but PCs have a serious problem with the authentication. Any help anyone may have to offer (pointers to HTTP sites, FAQs, etc) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much for your time. Marco _\\\|///_ ( O-O ) +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ | | | Marcus Eric Harris Email: harrism@usasoc.soc.mil | | Senior Site Analyst meh@fayetteville.ssds.com | | SSDS, Inc. | | Bldg. D-2524 Merrill Street Phone: 910.432.4311 | | Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28307 FAX: 910.436.8124 | | | | "When I die, I want to go in my sleep -- just like my Grandfather. | | Not screaming in horror like the other passengers in his car..." | | | +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ _( O-O )_ ///|\\\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 17:37:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21622; Wed, 3 May 95 17:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11152; Wed, 3 May 95 17:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11146; Wed, 3 May 95 17:28:18 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [204.214.98.28]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA30834 for ; Wed, 3 May 1995 17:23:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:23:23 -0700 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Unsubscribe To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 18:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23283; Wed, 3 May 95 18:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12217; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12211; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:26 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12120; Wed, 3 May 95 18:27:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 17:27:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Marcus Eric Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Running IMAP/RIMAP With PC-Pine 3.91... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Marco, You haven't given very many details about what exactly you see. What are the precise symptoms? If you attempt to telnet to port 143 of the server and manually enter a login command aa login username password what happens? -teg On Wed, 3 May 1995, Marcus Eric Harris wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for information on configuring PC-Pine 3.91 to work > with the IMAP/RIMAP daemons on a file server. My PC is running the > following: > > . DOS 6.22 > . Windows For Workgroups (3.11) -- Workgroups deactivated > . PC-NFS 5.1a > . PC-Pine 3.91 for Windows > > When I run the application in Windows, it attempts to access the > remote inbox ({serverName}inbox) the way that it should. The problem > appears to be occurring when the authentication process begins. I > continually get problems trying to bind to the IMAP daemon and I believe > the problem MAY be the fact that a password must be validated by the IMAP > daemon to gain access to the remote inbox. We have been able to > successfully access remote inboxes via IMAP in heterogeneous SPARC > environments, but PCs have a serious problem with the authentication. > > Any help anyone may have to offer (pointers to HTTP sites, FAQs, > etc) will be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much for your time. > > Marco > > _\\\|///_ > ( O-O ) > +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ > | | > | Marcus Eric Harris Email: harrism@usasoc.soc.mil | > | Senior Site Analyst meh@fayetteville.ssds.com | > | SSDS, Inc. | > | Bldg. D-2524 Merrill Street Phone: 910.432.4311 | > | Fort Bragg, North Carolina 28307 FAX: 910.436.8124 | > | | > | "When I die, I want to go in my sleep -- just like my Grandfather. | > | Not screaming in horror like the other passengers in his car..." | > | | > +-----------------------------o00--(_)--00o----------------------------+ > _( O-O )_ > ///|\\\ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 18:56:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23802; Wed, 3 May 95 18:56:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10149; Wed, 3 May 95 18:47:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10143; Wed, 3 May 95 18:47:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6pzm-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 18:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@nexus.interealm.com (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: Printing Problem Date: 4 May 1995 00:32:02 GMT Message-Id: <3o97a2$k8d@nexus.interealm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Christopher Steven Williams (cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : At the University of Oregon, the only way anyone knows who to print from : pine is by useing the printer at the computing center, or by saving it : onto our account and pulling it off as a text file through another : program. Is there any way to set up which printer pine will print to? : All our printer (most) our connected to each other in one way or another. : ---------------------------------------------------- : Christopher Williams : cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu : http://gladstone.uoregon.edu:80/~cwilliam/index.html : ---------------------------------------------------- Do you have a printer defined in your .login or .profile? I would start by seening what the system defined printers are and then if they are accessable from pine. Doug From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 20:05:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25397; Wed, 3 May 95 20:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13680; Wed, 3 May 95 19:57:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13669; Wed, 3 May 95 19:57:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6r5i-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 19:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 3 May 1995 16:54:10 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article dlm@cac.washington.edu wrote: > Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an > unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail > delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a > message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my > "pine" incoming folder.... To me IMAP seems so close to allowing this... IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go through filter hoops... That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the simple model... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790577 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 20:19:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25774; Wed, 3 May 95 20:19:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11290; Wed, 3 May 95 20:12:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11284; Wed, 3 May 95 20:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6rK9-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mimil@bf.rmit.edu.au (Mimi Ling) Subject: Cannot read news Date: 3 May 1995 23:45:37 GMT Message-Id: <3o94j1$7ll@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Hello there.. I just started using pine and I have a couple of problems.. 1. I cannot subscribe to any newsgroup .. use A to subscr. screen hit CRTL X to get list and S to subscribe .. When I exit and log in again, I am back to the list with whole list of newsgroup from (Alt.. Vms). How to I get to only the newsgroup that I have subscribe for ?? 2. I want to read a couple of news in every newsgroup, BUT once I get into one news, I cannot seems to go back to the original list, I have to use next message which I have to go thru the whole list until the end unless I want to go back to the Main screen..What is the comand to use?? Any help would be appreciated.. Thanks Mimi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:17:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27157; Wed, 3 May 95 21:17:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14782; Wed, 3 May 95 21:12:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14776; Wed, 3 May 95 21:12:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6sDZ-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davidky@conan (David Kennedy) Subject: Filtering Mail? Date: 3 May 1995 17:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <3o8f1f$cr4@paperboy.ids.net> Status: O X-Status: Hello. I'm trying to filter all the mail I receive so that the messages I get from a listserv are separated for my personal mail.. I guess I want the mail to be put into two folders (?), one fir the listserv and one for everything else. BUT I have no idea how to do this. I'm on a UNIX machine (or should I say I dial into a unix machine?) So :) how do I do this? In some PINE manual it says I have to do this in unix but I don't know how to do that either. any help would be greatly appreciated. David please e-mail me at: DAVIDKY@IDS.NET Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:37:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27720; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12219; Wed, 3 May 95 21:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12213; Wed, 3 May 95 21:32:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6sWG-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 21:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: derelict@netcom.com (derelict@netcom.com) Subject: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 04:02:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi!! I'm just starting to use Pine, after using Emacs for years... I'd like to find docs for it that would tell me how to do simple things like "delete to end of line", etc... Where is such a document located??? -- Like a game of tag, DEATH is "it", and around he chases, touching people who fall to Earth. Rita Mae Brown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 21:41:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27859; Wed, 3 May 95 21:41:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12295; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from isisa.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12289; Wed, 3 May 95 21:37:10 -0700 Received: by email.unc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA105160; Thu, 4 May 1995 00:37:05 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 00:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Trey Harris X-Sender: harris@isisa.oit.unc.edu To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forcing mail check In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Some news programs allow you to set an environemnt variable to tell it > which editor to use for news posting / mail sending. Try issuing the > following command and then start up your news reader and see what happens: > > setenv EDITOR pico > > It won't quite be pine, but it will at least edit your message like pine > does. Um, yes. I've been running Unix machines for enough years to know about the EDITOR variable, at least. :) And if you have a sane newsreader, it will let you use an alternate editor from the one in the EDITOR environment variable. But will that save the outgoing mail in my sent-mail folder? Even if there's a way to do it, will it use IMAP, as I do with Pine? Can I use my Pine address-book nicknames in the Cc: line? Can I postpone the message for later? Can I attatch a MIME-encoded file, if I'm responding to someone who needs some source code or a binary file that I have? You see what I'm getting at. It isn't Pico I want, it's *Pine*. Right now, I have my newsreader (trn) set up as an alias, like follows: alias trn='/usr/local/bin/trn ; pine -f respond-to' and when I'm using trn, I save any messages I want to respond to in the respond-to folder, and when I quit trn, Pine starts up. This works, but it's kludgy and it has a number of looming problems, most notably of which is what if the respond-to file needs to be an IMAP folder rather than a local file? Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:49:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00683; Wed, 3 May 95 23:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16883; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16877; Wed, 3 May 95 23:42:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6uaK-00038QC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Printing thru PC Date: 26 Apr 1995 04:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3nkjc2$5gp@grape.epix.net> References: <3nj5cb$d2j@indy-backup.indy.net> Status: O X-Status: Brendan E. O'Connor (boc@indy.net) wrote: : About two months ago, I suddenly lost the ability to print from Pine to : my local printer using the "Y" command. When I press "Y" for Print and : answer yes to the "Print to "attached-to-ansi"? question, the message : prints to the screen instead of to my printer. This problem occurred at It should do both ... the pine Y prYnt command is not really a printer driver, but it's a screen capture thingy when used on a pc (I'm assuming you're on a pc running dos or windozzzz, connected to a server running unix). That's why it 'scrolls' the message up as it (or before it) prints. : the same time both at home: '386 to Epson FX-85 and at work: '486 to HP : LJ III. It also is consistent across at least two terminal : emulators--both windows-based. Did you or your server upgrade to a higher version of pine recently, if so maybe the settings were lost ... see below ... : Is this likely to be a problem with my Pine Setup? If so, what should I : check? Or is it possibly a problem with the Pine program or setup used Check your setup (from main pine screen S to setup then P??? to select printer then option # 1 to set to attached-to-ansi, but it sounds like ya already did that so it should work. : by my local access provider? I thought I'd post here first and try my : local sysop next if no one has any better ideas on what I might be doing : wrong. I've been making do by saving messages to my hard drive and : printing them throught MS-Word, but this is the slow way. That's the best way to do it with long messages, 'cause you can do it off-line, and get a better quality printout, and you can edit it, but it's a pain in the ass for short messages I agree. One possible solution ... if ya got a fast modem and a slow terminal (as in 386) (saw one last week at an antique show :-)) slow it (the modem) down when yer prYnting, because it will 'scroll' too fast. I connect at 28800 or 14400 depending, and set the modem (temporarily) to 1200 (yes that's 12 hundred not thousand) and it works fine. Anything faster and it skips stuff (remember it's a screen capture, not really a printer driver). Don't know what software yer usin, but I can change modem speeds while connected, if yours can't, you'll have to logout then reset then .login again (also a pain in the ass). This is only my homemade method of doing it, never saw it published anywhere, but what the hell, it works. : Thanks for any ideas/help you can provide. Let me know if this helps or not, if not my 14 year old computer nerd son can probably figure it out, but he's sleeping now. BYE. DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ Just trying to find the meaning of life; Get me a dictionary._\__/__\ OK, I found it ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:51:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00748; Wed, 3 May 95 23:51:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13721; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13709; Wed, 3 May 95 23:43:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ubv-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Another .sig question!!! Date: 26 Apr 1995 05:19:17 GMT Message-Id: <3nkl4l$5gp@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Christopher Steven Williams (cwilliam@gladstone.uoregon.edu) wrote: : Is it possible to assign different .sig`s to specific newsgroups? The : one on this letter is the same for every letter and I wanted a .sig that : approprietly matched the newsgroup (like a good quote from startrek for : alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die). Yessirreee; and from the Blakeslee campus of Pocono University, our Adjunct Professor of Internet, DearOldDad, is gonna tell ya'll how. Make files named for example cg for christopher's general purpose sig, cs for Christophers sex group sig, cc for your computer group sig, cq for ... oh well use your immagination ... anyway, where were we ... oh yes ... then when yer done typing your message in mail (pine) or usenet (tin) for examples, type ^R (control+r) to read in a file, then type cg and press Enter, Bingo!, your cg sig is attached to your mail, post, followup, write, whatever. Notice I said that your cg file is attached, not your .signature file. The problem with .signature files, is that they attach to everything, if you want it or not, and even worse if you mail a copy to someone else, another copy of .signature will attach, and even more worser, .signature files put in a leading -- which some newsreaders and servers will truncate if longer than 4 lines. Only my 895 cents worth. BYE. now ... here comes ^R ds Enter (that stands for Dad's signature) DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ now ... here comes ^R dg Enter (Dad's golf group signature) . . /\ . /\ . DearOldDad / \ /\. / \ /\ . Thought for the day : from the / \/ \ /\/ \/ \ . FORE !! Pocono Mtns / / \/ \ /\ \ \ /\ . Damn, missed again! PA USA / / / \/ \ \/\ \ / \ . e-mail to / / / / \/ \/\/ \ . . . |>> jgvd@ / / / / / / \/\ \/\ . . . .. | epix.net/_____/_____/_____/_____/___/___/__\/\/__\____._______.__.|____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed May 3 23:52:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00780; Wed, 3 May 95 23:52:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16940; Wed, 3 May 95 23:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16934; Wed, 3 May 95 23:48:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6ug2-00038RC; Wed, 3 May 95 23:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erin@skivs.ski.org (Erin O'Neill) Subject: Incoming folders... Date: 3 May 1995 15:47:21 -0700 Message-Id: <3o915p$3iv@skivs.ski.org> Status: O X-Status: ok Ok I've been filtering my Email for awhile & then I saw how Pine will allow me to name an incomming folder & if I set up my configuration correctly I can just hit the tab key (while in my main inbox??) & then I should just go over to my filtered folder & be able to read my mail.... Somehow I can't figure out the format for the folder-collections I have a filter set up so that all my mailing list email goes to a named folder. When I've finished reading my regular inbox email I'd like to be able to hit the tab key & go to my mailing list folder. How do I do this?? I've inabled auto-open-next-unread & enable-incoming-folders but I'm unsure of the format for folder-collections?? What am I leaving out?? Help! thanks. erin erin@skivs.ski.org -- erin erin@skivs.ski.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 04:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08617; Thu, 4 May 95 04:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17090; Thu, 4 May 95 04:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17084; Thu, 4 May 95 04:13:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6yoP-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 04:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phl@cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 3 May 1995 04:53:06 GMT Message-Id: <3o727i$pbr@sundog.tiac.net> References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: In article <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at>, ChFi@via.at says... > >I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local >message folders under both OS. You could add an NFS client like XFS to your DOS stack and put the folders on the Linux partition. Peter -- Peter H. Lemieux, President http://www.cyways.com cyways, inc. Voice: +1 (800) 529-9297 Watertown, Massachusetts, USA Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 --- Your source for total Internet solutions(TM) --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 05:32:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10108; Thu, 4 May 95 05:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21681; Thu, 4 May 95 05:19:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adan.unizar.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21669; Thu, 4 May 95 05:19:33 -0700 Received: from [155.210.12.116] by adan.unizar.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) Thu, 4 May 95 14:24:22 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:24:59 +0000 To: Pine-info From: cmata@adan.unizar.es (Carlos Mata) Subject: Unsubscribe Status: O X-Status: unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 05:38:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10269; Thu, 4 May 95 05:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21641; Thu, 4 May 95 05:18:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21635; Thu, 4 May 95 05:18:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s6zog-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 05:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fwreimer@crl.com (Frederick W. Reimer) Subject: access error? Date: 4 May 1995 04:05:42 -0700 Message-Id: <3oace6$c94@crl2.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: I just got an error message this morning. Can someone tell me what it means and how serious it is? I was in my sentmail folder, and a bar appeared at the bottom of the screen saying "Mailbox format invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" Then, a message said, (Mail folder Inbox closed due to access error) Does this mean someone has accessed my mail files? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 06:27:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11156; Thu, 4 May 95 06:27:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18156; Thu, 4 May 95 06:08:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18150; Thu, 4 May 95 06:08:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s70aq-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 06:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Date: 4 May 1995 12:25:18 GMT Message-Id: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: derelict@netcom.com (derelict@netcom.com) wrote: : Hi!! I'm just starting to use Pine, after using Emacs for years... : I'd like to find docs for it that would tell me how to do simple : things like "delete to end of line", etc... Where is such a : document located??? >From the main (startup) screen type '?' (no quotes). You will see a 25 page document with basic instructions, and on the 4th or 5th page http:// addresses for retrieving the full documentation. Have fun! BYE. /\ /~~\/\ /\ John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ m From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 06:28:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11174; Thu, 4 May 95 06:28:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22402; Thu, 4 May 95 06:13:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22396; Thu, 4 May 95 06:13:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s70f6-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 06:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cguy@uspto.gov (Cynthia Guy) Subject: compressing a pine folder/file Date: 3 May 1995 09:39:26 -0400 Message-Id: <3o812e$8vr@pioneer.uspto.gov> Status: O X-Status: We are using Pine 3.91. We have users that want to keep their monthly folders. Is there anyway in Pine to save the monthly folder as a file, and compress it. I have tried looking at the export and piping features but cannot find anything that will work. Thanks for any help. Cynthia -- "Time is a precious gift. Live each minute to its fullest because you will never get it back." Cynthia Guy, Network Analyst PTO: (703) 308-6873 standard disclaimers apply From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 07:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13012; Thu, 4 May 95 07:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18948; Thu, 4 May 95 07:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18942; Thu, 4 May 95 07:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s71hf-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 07:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: STORM Subject: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 23:51:36 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to create an automated reply using: Pine -I i,r,^X This sending a reply to a new message (my signature is the auto reply message) received. However, Pine is not recognizing the ^X command. Is there someway to fix this? Or is there an easier way to create an automated reply/mailbot? Thanks for your help. Storm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 08:07:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13772; Thu, 4 May 95 08:07:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23481; Thu, 4 May 95 07:30:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23475; Thu, 4 May 95 07:30:26 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207655>; Thu, 4 May 1995 07:32:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 07:32:37 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? In-Reply-To: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello to all... I would like to know how to set up an alias so that I can receive mail using a different name... For example, say I have an account with username "joe" but everyone else knows me as "joe1." How would I set up an alias using pine so that everyone who sends mail to "joe1" will have their mail delivered to "joe"? Andrew Le From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 08:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13913; Thu, 4 May 95 08:11:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23458; Thu, 4 May 95 07:29:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23438; Thu, 4 May 95 07:29:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s71sE-00038QC; Thu, 4 May 95 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Problem sending mail to a profs user! Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:23:07 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 3 May 1995, Michael S Hartman wrote: > Date: 3 MAY 1995 12:10:12 -0700 > From: Michael S Hartman > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Problem sending mail to a profs user! > > Can i send mail to profs?? > > The users node is ge1vm > > the i.d. is I106 > > I appreciate any help. > > Thanks, Mike Hartman The answer is yes. I used to be a system programmer on IBM mainframe systems running PROFS, and we did it all the time. Provided everybody is connected to the net and has all the addressing squared away, nothing special needs to be done. Just treat a PROFS recipient like any other email address. You say the user's node is ge1vm. That looks to me to be an insufficient address. You probably need I106@ge1vm.. You will need to find out the user's domain to make it work. Then it should go with no further problems (if, as I say, everybody is hooked up). Just remembered. Your system will need to know about the user's domain in your Domain Name System (DNS) tables, and his/her system will need to know about yours. That's a system administrator function. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 11:19:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21969; Thu, 4 May 95 11:19:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23446; Thu, 4 May 95 11:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23440; Thu, 4 May 95 11:09:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s75KL-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 10:44:35 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199505011735.NAA11802@nefertiti.wang.com> In-Reply-To: <3o3lvn$et0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: > There may be other ways, too. 4. Teach your delivery service to do filtering based on information the user loaded into some directory service (such as LDAP). -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29063; Thu, 4 May 95 14:02:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02552; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02546; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:47 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15945; Thu, 4 May 95 13:55:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Scott Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? In-Reply-To: <3o6vpu$g91@news4.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You must have had a Pine crash at some point. The core file is an image of memory when the program crashed. We would like to know the circumstances of the crash, but the core file can be deleted... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Scott Ross wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT > From: Scott Ross > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? > > Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk > space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why > would it be so large? Thanks in advance... > > Scott Ross > rosss@primenet.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:03:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29100; Thu, 4 May 95 14:03:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27108; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27102; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:47 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26698; Thu, 4 May 95 13:52:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 13:52:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > How does one initiate filtering and such (as provided with procmail) if they > use the IMAP protocol? There have been several suggestions made so far. I'm going to recap some of them and add several possibities that haven't been mentioned. I will not mention suggestions that involve firing up a Mail User Agent to act on the mail store, as I think most people want filtering to be done by the delivery agent at "message delivery time", rather than by an MUA at "message reading time"... 1. Run IMAP on an "unsealed" system where logins are permitted and procmail or filter or deliver can be used in the normal way. 2. Run IMAP on a "semi-sealed" system which shares some state with systems where logins are permitted. One scenario: the IMAP server does not permit user logins, but imports user home directories and the delivery agent respects any .forward entries it finds. 3. Teach your delivery service to do filtering based on information the user loaded into some directory service (such as LDAP). 4. Mailbots. It is possible to construct a service for manipulating a procmail (etc.) rule base via email messages. The advantage is being able to use any mail client to, for example, set a vacation msg. A key requirement is for the requestor to be authenticated, which could be done in any of several ways, e.g. PGP, or some form of "two-party authentication" wherein a "magic cookie" is sent to the user's mailbox by the mailbot engine and is used in subsequent transactions for authentication. In its simplest form, this scheme would have a very limited set of services (e.g. vacation setup) and a correspondingly simple command syntax (and/or a task-specific set of mailbot addresses.) One can imagine a more general-purpose rule definition language being transmitted to the delivery filter via this kind of mechanism. (Laurence Lundblade at Virginia Tech has been working on such a language, which he has dubbed "Sift-TCL".) 5. WWW forms. WWW forms are being used for *everything* these days, even session-oriented transaction sequences that require authentication. I can't see any reason why someone couldn't solve the remote procmail configuration problem using this approach. On 3 May 1995, Jason Haar asked why you couldn't edit procmail config files via IMAP, and why it couldn't be used to store Pine config files. The answer for both questions is that a case can be made for having several simple protocols for different tasks, rather than one "does everything" protocol. In the case of remote access to pine configuration data, we expect to use the IMAP companion protocol, IMSP, which is being developed at CMU. In the case of procmail configuration data, any of the options listed above seem plausible. In principle, since IMAP supports an APPEND operation, one could write arbitrary data to a file on the server and invent an agent that could do something useful with it, but even though I also like to reuse existing mechanism rather than inventing new, I'm not convinced that's the best approach to this particular problem. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:10:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29450; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02677; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02671; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16101; Thu, 4 May 95 14:00:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:00:36 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Cynthia Guy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file In-Reply-To: <3o812e$8vr@pioneer.uspto.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Cynthia, Pine does not currently support compressed folders. There have been several requests, but we don't have the resources to implement them at this time. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Cynthia Guy wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 09:39:26 -0400 > From: Cynthia Guy > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: compressing a pine folder/file > > We are using Pine 3.91. We have users that want to keep their monthly > folders. Is there anyway in Pine to save the monthly folder as a file, > and compress it. I have tried looking at the export and piping features but > cannot find anything that will work. > > Thanks for any help. > Cynthia > > -- > "Time is a precious gift. > Live each minute to its fullest because you will never get it back." > > Cynthia Guy, Network Analyst PTO: (703) 308-6873 standard disclaimers apply > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:20:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29911; Thu, 4 May 95 14:20:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02852; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02846; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16269; Thu, 4 May 95 14:07:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jason Haar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of the reasons that the file driver in the UW IMAP server is Read-Only is that allowing an IMAP client to write a free-format flat file would open up a pandora's box of security problems. For example, if Pine could write a .forward file in someone's home directory, what would prevent it from writing a .cshrc file or .rhosts file? At least with a mailbox format file you are not too likely to be able to do that kind of damage. Solving that and other problems would take IMAPd far down a path that we are not eager to explore in a "message access" service... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 May 1995, Jason Haar wrote: > Date: 3 May 1995 16:54:10 GMT > From: Jason Haar > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP > > In article dlm@cac.washington.edu wrote: > > > Filtering on a black-box IMAP server (no shell access) is currently an > > unsolved problem. We have implemented a partial solution in our tmail > > delivery agent by supporting "user+folder" addressing, e.g. if you send a > > message to dlm+pine@cac.washington.edu it will be delivered straight to my > > "pine" incoming folder.... > > To me IMAP seems so close to allowing this... > > IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of > getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? > > Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could > be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the > client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters > like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go > through filter hoops... > > That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the > simple model... > > -- > > Cheers, > > Jason > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790577 | > | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | > | Basingstoke, Hampshire | > | RG21 1PL, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | > +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:21:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00160; Thu, 4 May 95 14:21:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02996; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.primenet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02990; Thu, 4 May 95 14:10:22 -0700 Received: from usr1.primenet.com (usr1.primenet.com [198.68.32.11]) by mailhost.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-h2.0) with ESMTP id OAA22562; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:21 -0700 Received: (rosss@localhost) by usr1.primenet.com (8.6.11/wjp-c2.0) id OAA22549; Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:20 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 14:10:19 -0700 (MST) From: Scott Ross To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks for the reply, that's a big load off of my shoulders. I get charged for going over 5M with my provider and that file put me dangerously close. The only "crash" I've ever had with Pine is when I'm telnetting in to my provider to check my mail and my connection drops. That must be where the file came from. I'm happy to report to you that I find your program EXTREMELY stable and very easy yet powerful to use. I go through about 150 messages a day and have never had anything go wrong with PINE. I do have a problem with my carriage returns messing up quoted text in messages (by justifying them) but am sure that is User Error since I haven't tried to investigate it. Again, thanks for the reply. Scott Ross rosss@primenet.com On Thu, 4 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > You must have had a Pine crash at some point. The core file is an image > of memory when the program crashed. We would like to know the > circumstances of the crash, but the core file can be deleted... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 3 May 1995, Scott Ross wrote: > > > Date: 3 May 1995 04:11:42 GMT > > From: Scott Ross > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: What is core.pine and why is it so large? > > > > Hi, my provider charges extra for storage over 5MB, so I checked my disk > > space usage and core.pine was almost 3MB. What exactly is it and why > > would it be so large? Thanks in advance... > > > > Scott Ross > > rosss@primenet.com > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 14:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00735; Thu, 4 May 95 14:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03390; Thu, 4 May 95 14:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oeonline.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03384; Thu, 4 May 95 14:29:20 -0700 Received: by oeonline.oeonline.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0s78Jq-0001wjC; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20 EDT Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:20:09 -400 (EDT) From: Edward Morykwas Subject: Printer Configuration To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings-- I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? Many, many thanks, --Ed Edward Morykwas edog@oeonline.com Troy, Michigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 16:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08967; Thu, 4 May 95 16:17:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10709; Thu, 4 May 95 16:05:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10703; Thu, 4 May 95 16:05:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s79or-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 15:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Leaving read messages in INBOX Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 17:42:48 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3nppir$4b6@cougar.vut.edu.au> Status: O X-Status: On 28 Apr 1995, Leng Kaing wrote: > Noam Ben Yochanan (noam@brachot.jct.ac.il) wrote: > > : Hello all, > > : In elm it's possible to leave read messages in the incomming mail file, > : meaning I can leave a message there until I deal with it. Pine doesn't seem > : to support this option. It considers every read message as deleted ('D') when > : exiting. This really sucks, pardon the expression. I got around it by > : undeleting all the messages I want to keep, expunging all the ones I want to > : delete and then exiting. This is of course error prone (I made the error > : today :-( ) and inelegant. > > > : Isn't there any way I can just tell the system to treat deleted/saved massges > : in a different maner than read messages? i.e. NEVER to have 'D' appear next > : to a message that was read but not deleted or saved? maybe an option in > : .pinerc I missed or misunderstud? > > : Please reply by e-mail. > > Mine only gets marked as Deleted if I save the file into a folder, or > delete it myself. Otherwise, it's left in the INBOX with no letters in front > (meaning it's been read). I'm using unix pine by the way. > And there is even an option so that save will not delete. I agree with the last poster (Leng) that Pine does NOT mark read mail as Deleted - there is no option to set it up that way either. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 16:56:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10280; Thu, 4 May 95 16:56:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00878; Thu, 4 May 95 16:50:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00872; Thu, 4 May 95 16:50:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7AXn-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jroach@ainet.com (jroach) Subject: ATTENTION 40SOMETHING & OVER MALE/FEMALE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:00:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: Need volenteers for anonymous research project dealing with people who use or are hooked on on-line world. MUST be candid & willing to tell all call between 7:30 am-7:30pm pacific time ask for MissB12. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 17:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12505; Thu, 4 May 95 17:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01639; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01633; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:42 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26633; Thu, 4 May 95 17:20:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 17:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Brad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suggestion: Completion for Address Book Names/Fcc Folder Names In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 May 1995, Brad wrote: > I guess I don't really have to add much more after that Subject line, > do I? ;) Anyway... The search for a nickname in the address books is done using a hash table in order to obtain sufficient speed. The hash value depends on all of the characters in the nickname, so it is difficult to do completion with only some of the name. So probably it won't be implemented soon. Sorry. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 18:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13473; Thu, 4 May 95 18:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13218; Thu, 4 May 95 18:05:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13212; Thu, 4 May 95 18:05:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Bg1-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 4 May 1995 08:38:46 GMT Message-Id: <3oa3qm$dck@hustle.rahul.net> References: Status: O X-Status: In harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) writes: >And if you have a sane newsreader, it >will let you use an alternate editor from the one in the EDITOR >environment variable. But... >...It isn't [an editor] I want, it's *Pine*. If you wish to use a mail agent of your choice to respond by email to News postings: Create a tiny program called 'mailme', and a suitable macro for your news reader that will pipe a News posting through this program. Here is the program that I use: #! /bin/sh # Mail me the input, used from rn or nn to convert articles # to mail messages. Standard input must contain all needed headers. # -i tells sendmail to ignore dots in input. R. Dhesi /bin/cat $* | /usr/lib/sendmail -i dhesi When you wish to send an email response to a News posting, just pipe it through the 'mailme' command. This converts it into an incoming email message. Later you can invoke your favorite mail agent and reply to your incoming mail normally. You can recognize the messages that were piped into 'mailme' from News because they will contain Path: headers. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 19:56:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20205; Thu, 4 May 95 19:56:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19899; Thu, 4 May 95 19:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19893; Thu, 4 May 95 19:50:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7DMq-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smann@interactive.net (Steve Mann) Subject: full header Date: 3 May 1995 21:12:48 GMT Message-Id: <3o8rkg$qql@ns1.interactive.net> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am having a problem with the enable-full-header option in the setup. One of the users needs to see a field called "Received From" and does not see it. I have set up someone else *exactly* the same in the .pinerc and it works, but in this case it does not display. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Thanx much. Steve smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu For Shell, SLIP, PPP account info, smann@interactive.net finger info@interactive.net 201-818-0180 WWW - http://www.interactive.net 201-722-1632 Questions? Comments? Send mail to: 201-934-9357 staff@interactive.net => "Never put off until tomorrow that which can be done the day after tomorrow." -Mark Twain => Did you know that you were wearing the same clothes the day after yesterday? Me =-P From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 21:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22601; Thu, 4 May 95 21:31:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04843; Thu, 4 May 95 21:25:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04837; Thu, 4 May 95 21:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7EtY-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 21:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric D. Friedman" Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 10:39:21 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 1 May 1995, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > > I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a > >Macintosh, for what it's worth.=20 >=20 > This could be a problem. What Mac program are you using? How is > that program configured -- does it do the translation from the mail's > ISO 8859-1 character set to the Mac display set? And what do you see > when messages ``don't include accents''? With NCSA Telnet for the Mac, > look to see what is selected under Translation... Thanks to Barry for pointing this out. The problem was indeed with Zterm, my modem program, which doesn't support anything better than vt100 as a=20 terminal setting. Once I switched to NCSA Telnet 2.6 and changed the translation to ISO 8859-1, things have been working just fine. I'd be=20 grateful, however, if some other folks could confirm this for me. =20 Here's a little test string of some accented characters: =E9=E8=A7=BB=EC=EB=EA=E8=E7=E6=E4=F3=E1=F1=F7re=F6=E3=F8=FA=EE=ED If anyone receives these as a set of characters with accents, I'd be=20 grateful for a note telling me so. =20 Thanks again Barry and others, Eric D. Friedman Department of English and Comparative Literature University of California, Irvine eahg076@ea.oac.uci.edu=09***Mime, BinHex, UUencode, 8-bit character sets OK= *** FAX (714) 824-2916=09 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:00:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23174; Thu, 4 May 95 22:00:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21537; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21531; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7FL9-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Handling digests Date: 4 May 1995 17:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <3ob2oh$cn5@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: Douglas Bates (bates@stat.wisc.edu) wrote: : I hope this isn't in the FAQ ... : Is there a way in pine of "undigesting" mail received in digest form? The procmail package has a facility to separate digests into the separate mail entries. Try the mail filtering FAQ. -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:09:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24467; Thu, 4 May 95 22:09:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05319; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05313; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7FZt-00038TC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: Automatic Forwarding Date: 4 May 1995 17:28:17 GMT Message-Id: <3ob2rh$cn5@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: <3o8mnc$4o1@gold.interlog.com> Status: O X-Status: David Ryan (ryan@interlog.com) wrote: : Is it possible to have automaitc forwarding in pine? It's not a pine function, it's a sendmail function. Try setting up a .forward file in your account. -- ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:41:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28551; Thu, 4 May 95 22:41:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27304; Thu, 4 May 95 22:35:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27298; Thu, 4 May 95 22:35:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Fv6-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Printer Configuration Date: 5 May 1995 02:29:01 GMT Message-Id: <3oc2hd$ors@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all unix, BYE. /\ /~~\/\ /\ John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ If you ASCII silly question, then you'll get a silly ANSI!_\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 22:53:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28790; Thu, 4 May 95 22:53:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05859; Thu, 4 May 95 22:50:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05853; Thu, 4 May 95 22:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7GFA-00038RC; Thu, 4 May 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vwalker@netcom.com (Vic Walker) Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. Message-Id: References: <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. : : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! : : Thanks. Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an answer. If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) Vic Walker vwalker@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu May 4 23:52:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29937; Thu, 4 May 95 23:52:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06448; Thu, 4 May 95 23:47:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06442; Thu, 4 May 95 23:47:15 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.5.1.f) via EUnet id IAA17545; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:49:02 +0200 Received: from sunshine.fz.telekom.de (sunshine.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.22]) by eunetgate.fz.telekom.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA00916 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:35:48 +0200 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA23466 for ; Fri, 5 May 1995 08:34:03 +0200 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25522; Fri, 5 May 95 08:36:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 08:36:53 +0200 (MET DST) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 00:11:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00583; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28510; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28504; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7HRx-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 00:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: What is core.pine and why is it so large? Date: 4 May 1995 23:30:58 GMT Message-Id: <3obo3i$pf3@news.ysu.edu> References: The only "crash" I've ever had with Pine is when I'm >telnetting in to my provider to check my mail and my connection drops. >That must be where the file came from. Perhaps... I have an account with a service provider who is using BSD/OS or BSD/386, and core dumps get the name of the process which was running appended, as opposed to the simple file named core which I get from other systems I use. Are you, by chance, using a BSD/OS system? On this system, it is a frequent occurrence that people get dropped and their orphaned Pine process spins out of control, taking as much CPU as it can and driving the system load up. I've told the SysAdmins here that when they see such a Pine session, they should just kill it. With a signal given to a running Pine process, such as kill -QUIT , I can force my hung Pine sessions to create a core.pine file -- maybe your provider has given your Pine session such a kill command... >I do have a problem with my carriage returns messing up >quoted text in messages (by justifying them) but am sure that is User >Error Nope, I don't think so. I have this same problem and more when I telnet to the BSD/OS system from NCSA telnet for the Mac -- it doesn't appear to get the proper stty settings, so that your RETURN is sent and interpreted as the ^J linefeed. I can telnet to this BSD/OS from other telnet clients and use Pine and Emacs with no problems, and I can also telnet from Mac NCSA telnet to other OS machines and use Pine or Emacs with no problems. Presumably there are other telnet clients which have problems with the BSD/OS telnetd, and other telnetd's that have problems with Mac NCSA telnet. I get around this by telnetting from Mac NCSA telnet to a different machine, from which I telnet again to the BSD/OS. Awkward, but it works around the problems I have... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 00:16:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00698; Fri, 5 May 95 00:16:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06816; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06809; Fri, 5 May 95 00:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7HU0-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charnoft@wfu.edu (Forrest T Charnock) Subject: Automatic mailing list? Date: 5 May 1995 02:14:48 GMT Message-Id: <3oc1mo$6l4@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to generate automatic mailing lists using pine? I mean, someone sends me mail with "add me!" in the body and they are automatically added to a mail group. -- ************************************************************************* Olin Physical Lab Wake Forest University Winston-Salem, NC http://www.wfu.edu/~charnoft KE4RJG * * * * * "I wish these damn scientists would leave intelligence to the experts." --Gen. Richard Stillwell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 03:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04858; Fri, 5 May 95 03:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01076; Fri, 5 May 95 03:16:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01070; Fri, 5 May 95 03:16:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7KPy-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 03:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Eric D. Friedman" Subject: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: Sun, 30 Apr 1995 21:20:17 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone tell me how to configure pine so that it will display the 8 bit characters used for French, German, and spanish diacritics (accents)? I've changed the character-set value in Pine's 3.91's setup menu to ISO-8859-1 with no success. From time to time, however, some messages do make it through which include accents, presumably because of something the sender did. I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a Macintosh, for what it's worth. Extra bonus points to the person who can tell me how to type accents into Pine-unix from my Mac keyboard or from an X-term. I would be very grateful if could be cc'ed on any replies to this post. I'm at eahg076@ea.oac.uci.edu Many thanks, Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 04:37:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06903; Fri, 5 May 95 04:37:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09689; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09683; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7LNA-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: This is going to change when Pine converts to IMAP4. The present way of doing this is to set those folders up as subdirectories of ~ftp, as if you were setting up an anonymous FTP server. Then, create the file /etc/anonymous.newsgroups The folders can then be accessed through Pine as collection *{server/anonymous}[] As I said, this is going to change in IMAP4. Most likely, the collection name will become something like: {server/anonymous}#ftp#[] Although there may be some other means of exporting public files besides this. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 29 Apr 1995, A. Andrew Brennan wrote: > Ok ... I've checked in the Pine technical notes, the comp.mail.pine > directory in RTFM's Usenet FAQ archive and some of the notes with the > IMAPd code I picked up for Linux. Can't seem to find the answer to > this - just hints. > > How's one setup anonymously accessible folders? I'm interested in > dumping our old BULLETIN system and replacing it with folders that > people can access using the Pine mailer (or other IMAP clients). > Given what little I've seen so far, I'm not sure that this is the > implementation I want to use ... but it might be. > > andrew. (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 04:46:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07067; Fri, 5 May 95 04:46:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02191; Fri, 5 May 95 04:26:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02185; Fri, 5 May 95 04:26:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7LUU-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:07:33 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably > > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I > > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work > > quite right for everyone. :-) No, no, no, that's BEE TUH, not BAY TAH! Sheesh, you Americans are strange. ;) ;) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:05:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07805; Fri, 5 May 95 05:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02614; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02608; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Lze-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se (LMD/T/RB Jakob Henning Andersen) Subject: Confirm reading facility ? Date: 2 May 1995 14:38:02 GMT Message-Id: <3o5g4a$e0q@erinews.ericsson.se> Status: O X-Status: Hello, Does PINE - like PEGASUS - provide a confirm reading facility ? /Jakob -- ________________________________________________________________ Jakob Andersen lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se TR/B Voice: +45 33883071 L.M Ericsson A/S - Denmark Fax: +45 33883131 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:05:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07829; Fri, 5 May 95 05:05:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09996; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09990; Fri, 5 May 95 04:56:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Lyo-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 04:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se (LMD/T/RB Jakob Henning Andersen) Subject: Confirm reading Date: 2 May 1995 14:35:45 GMT Message-Id: <3o5g01$e0q@erinews.ericsson.se> Status: O X-Status: Hello ! Does PINE - like Pegasus - provide a "confirm reading" facility? /Jakob -- ________________________________________________________________ Jakob Andersen lmdjan@lmd.ericsson.se TR/B Voice: +45 33883071 L.M Ericsson A/S - Denmark Fax: +45 33883131 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 05:53:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09031; Fri, 5 May 95 05:53:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10529; Fri, 5 May 95 05:41:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10523; Fri, 5 May 95 05:41:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Mdo-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 05:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:06:54 -0600 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server > somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system > will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you > (e.g. your local UNIX machine). > > You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server > configuration parameter. > I've got the server - you're right, it's our local UNIX machine. WHen I send mail however, it doesn't work. I get the messages that the SMTP connection "went away". THe machine I am connecting to is running svr4 UNIX and it handles SMTP just fine. I've got the smtp-server configuration parameter set to the UNIX machine's name and that works fine since I can go to the UNIX machine and get IMAP to serve me a file. Are there any permissions that I need to set or extra files that I need to enter the IMAP service in (other than /etc/services and inetd.conf)? Does SMTP need to be told to expect mail from outside the local machine or does IMAp take care of that? We aren't connected to the net yet but we do have IP addressed on the UNIX machine and the PC's Thanks Marc Kneppers kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 06:26:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09714; Fri, 5 May 95 06:26:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03764; Fri, 5 May 95 06:16:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03758; Fri, 5 May 95 06:16:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7NCf-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 06:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: 1 May 1995 06:21:14 GMT Message-Id: <3o1ukr$a5t@news.ysu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, eahg076@taurus.oac.uci.edu ("Eric D. Friedman") says: >Can anyone tell me how to configure pine so that it will display the 8 bit >characters used for French, German, and spanish diacritics (accents)? Make sure you have an 8-bit path from your Pine session to your display, and have a suitable (ISO 8859-1) font selected. Generally the first seems to be the default, while you may need to change something to get the second to happen. (In your case, you do have the 8-bit path.) >I've changed the character-set value in Pine's 3.91's setup menu to >ISO-8859-1 with no success. From time to time, however, some messages do >make it through which include accents, presumably because of something the >sender did. Then that sender is probably making proper use of MIME to get the messages to you intact. Other messages probably are either using an encoding which differs from yours, or are losing the 8th bit due to not making use of MIME, depending on what you see. > I'm running a vt100 terminal shell on a Unix system from a >Macintosh, for what it's worth. This could be a problem. What Mac program are you using? How is that program configured -- does it do the translation from the mail's ISO 8859-1 character set to the Mac display set? And what do you see when messages ``don't include accents''? With NCSA Telnet for the Mac, look to see what is selected under Translation... >Extra bonus points to the person who can tell me how to type accents into >Pine-unix from my Mac keyboard or from an X-term. Make sure you have an 8-bit input path to your Pine session, with stty pass8 or whatever is needed. From your Mac, choose a different keyboard to correspond with the language you intend to use, or make use of the Option (I think it is) key, which, when combined with, say, the character ``u'', adds a diaeresis (umlaut) to the character typed next. Or use Popchar. From your xterm, use the Compose key or the Meta key, whatever is set up to work for you, to apply an accent to a character. (For example, Compose " followed by u should give the u-diaeresis, which could also be created as Meta | .) You may need to set some additional environment variables depending on your setup. >I would be very grateful if could be cc'ed on any replies to this post. Ooops, this newsreader only permits e-mail or newsposting, not both... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 06:38:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09932; Fri, 5 May 95 06:38:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03965; Fri, 5 May 95 06:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hydra.naz.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03959; Fri, 5 May 95 06:33:23 -0700 Received: by hydra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA17815; Fri, 5 May 95 09:34:36 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:34:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: help with IMAP & PC-Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded the latest ver. of Pc-Pine. I am trying to access my mail from one of my UNIX machines running IMAP. I can't seem to do it. Here is what it looks like My PC with PC-Pine Host1 running IMAP2 Host2 running IMAP2 I can use Pc-Pine to read mail on Host1 I cannot use Pc-Pine to read mail on Host2 but I CAN use Pine on Host1 to read mail on Host2 What gives? I could understand if I could not read mail on Host2 from anywhere, but I just have a problem when using Pc-Pine. TIA for any help. ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Fascimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 08:29:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12932; Fri, 5 May 95 08:29:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12343; Fri, 5 May 95 08:12:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12337; Fri, 5 May 95 08:12:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7P0N-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 08:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: james@abel.richland.cc.il.us (James Jones) Subject: Public Use of Pine Date: 5 May 1995 00:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us> Status: O X-Status: We have PC's available for student use which are connected to a terminal server through serial lines using trumpet winsock with wfw311. Right now, our students have to telnet into our linux host and run pine from a shell. Frequently, pine will lock or a student will go off without logging out. What I would like to be able to do is have the students not even have to login to the unix machine to get their mail. I would like to have them sit down at the public terminals, run pine, supply a login name and password, and get their mail without having to mess with the linux side of it. I don't want any user information stored on the local machines since it will be a different person using it the next time. I got pc-pine to run once and ask all that information, but then it asked me if I wanted to write the information to the ini file. This is unacceptatble. I can't have students using their information as the defaults (even though some of them live at the terminals). I have IMAP setup so that I can read from pc-pine in my office (where I am the only person who uses that machine) - but I want to provide generic mail capabilities where the username is grabbed from the linux system based on the login name and password supplied. I need to know if there is some way I can do this. Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Jones: Mathematics Instructor & Internet System Administrator Richland Comm. College, Decatur. IL Opinions expressed are my own ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 08:44:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13467; Fri, 5 May 95 08:44:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05903; Fri, 5 May 95 08:33:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05897; Fri, 5 May 95 08:33:45 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA17312; Fri, 5 May 95 11:33:43 EDT Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:33:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt To: David L Miller Cc: Cynthia Guy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: There should be nothing to stop a user from compressing a folder themselves provided they are on a host where there is a compress program available. As I understand it the mail folders are just files. This particular request was for compressing the monthly old mail files and this approach would not be that bad in this case. The user would just uncompress them, again manually, if the need to look at the contents arose. The only requirement that this would place on Pine would be that it handle the compressed file in a place where it expected to find a mail folder. It is a far cry from compressing and uncompressing folders on the fly but it should take care of some situations. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 09:42:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16195; Fri, 5 May 95 09:42:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14112; Fri, 5 May 95 09:36:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zodiac.unl.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14104; Fri, 5 May 95 09:36:40 -0700 Received: by zodiac.unl.ac.uk (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA17599; Fri, 5 May 1995 17:35:29 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:35:29 +0100 From: cwf@zodiac.unl.ac.uk (Clifford) Message-Id: <9505051635.AA17599@zodiac.unl.ac.uk> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: cguy@uspto.gov Subject: Re: compressing a pine folder/file Content-Length: 1456 Status: O X-Status: Cynthia Why not start pine with a script which uncompresses the relevant months. Current an however months back by default and perhaps a month name as a parameter to unpack as far back as that month. Clifford W Fulford University of North London CLMS-UNIX development E-mail: Clifford@zodiac.unl.ac.uk Clifford@compulink.co.uk C.Fulford@unl.ac.uk Telephone: 071-607-2789 x 7314. Home 081-986-5239 response to ------------------------------------------------------------------ There should be nothing to stop a user from compressing a folder themselves provided they are on a host where there is a compress program available. As I understand it the mail folders are just files. This particular request was for compressing the monthly old mail files and this approach would not be that bad in this case. The user would just uncompress them, again manually, if the need to look at the contents arose. The only requirement that this would place on Pine would be that it handle the compressed file in a place where it expected to find a mail folder. It is a far cry from compressing and uncompressing folders on the fly but it should take care of some situations. Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 10:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18677; Fri, 5 May 95 10:48:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15355; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15349; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:56 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26449; Fri, 5 May 95 10:36:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: <3oc2hd$ors@grape.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Date: 5 May 1995 02:29:01 GMT > From: Jonathan and DearOldDad > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Printer Configuration > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > unix, BYE. > /\ /~~\/\ /\ > John (aka DearOldDad) /\ / \/ / \ /\/\ \ /\ > /\ / \/ / / \/POCONO MTNS PA > DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./\ \/ jgvd@epix.net > Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ /\ \ \/\ \ > Thought for the day: / / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ > If you ASCII silly question, then you'll get a silly ANSI!_\/____\_\ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 11:08:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19706; Fri, 5 May 95 11:08:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15877; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15871; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27036; Fri, 5 May 95 10:59:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Vic Walker Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, fbennet@cais.com Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The current Linux port of Pine assumes that the standard spell checker is /bin/spell and that it works the same as on other Unix versions. To get ispell to work, see the question about ispell in the Pine FAQ. Here is an excerpt: 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can create the following script and name it spell. #!/bin/sh ispell -l | sort | uniq To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' dictionary: + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in the private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could not change it. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vic Walker wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT > From: Vic Walker > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. > > > In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: > : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I > : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? > : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. > : > : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! > : > : Thanks. > > Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the > spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine > 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the > speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, > which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is > not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an > answer. > > If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help > us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) > > Vic Walker > vwalker@netcom.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 11:44:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21732; Fri, 5 May 95 11:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10445; Fri, 5 May 95 11:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10439; Fri, 5 May 95 11:39:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7SE4-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 11:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: not-so-FAQ re: IMAP ?? Date: 29 Apr 1995 11:57:25 GMT Message-Id: <3nt9j5$nag@news.ysu.edu> References: <3ns11o$ecf@cmi.hahnemann.edu> Status: O X-Status: In a previous article, mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) says: (about how to set up anonymous IMAP access to FTP server files...) >This is going to change when Pine converts to IMAP4. The present way of >doing this is to set those folders up as subdirectories of ~ftp, as if >you were setting up an anonymous FTP server. Then, create the file > /etc/anonymous.newsgroups >The folders can then be accessed through Pine as collection > *{server/anonymous}[] Can you say more about this? Specifically, is it sufficient to touch /etc/anonymous.newsgroups , or should it contain entries? And if it should, what should be the format of those entries? And it appears that the folders need to be specified as *{imap.server/anonymous}path/name/[] I make this claim in that the Pine home FTP server, ftp.cac.washington.edu when accessed in the manner you give from Pine3.91, returns the contents of the ~ftp chrooted top-level directory. Text files in that directory are readable by Pine, but subdirectories such as pine/ fail to be opened by the IMAP client Pine. In other words, for me to access the archives of pine-info, which I do on occasion from Pine, the proper format with 3.91 and IMAP2bis is Pine-info *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] ...which, as a .pinerc entry, gives me as folders, all the months of pine-info. (Can't wait to see lots of other mail archives made available this way instead of multi-kilo/megabyte files for anon FTP!) Thanks... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 12:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25321; Fri, 5 May 95 12:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18748; Fri, 5 May 95 12:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18742; Fri, 5 May 95 12:49:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7TIm-00038SC; Fri, 5 May 95 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@services.more.net (David Drum) Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: 5 May 1995 14:17:12 GMT Message-Id: <3odc18$r2a@news.missouri.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: STORM (storm@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : Or is there an easier way to create an : automated reply/mailbot? install procmail Contents of .forward: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #your userid" Contents of .procmailrc: SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin :0 h c * !^FROM_DAEMON * !^Precedence: junk" | (formail -r -A"Precedence: junk";\ cat $HOME/autoresponse) | $SENDMAIL -t Move your signature file into a file called autoresponse. That should do it. Regards, David -- "That man has a rare gift for obfuscation." -- ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 13:25:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27134; Fri, 5 May 95 13:25:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13099; Fri, 5 May 95 13:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13093; Fri, 5 May 95 13:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7TlL-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Lipscomb Subject: newsgroup selection Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:08:01 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.92 wish list idea: allow the selection of multiple newsgroups in the "add/subscribe" newsgroups feature. I realize Pine prompts if you "really" want to subscribe to "x.y.z" newsgroup. this would help since the newsgroup lookup is often time-sonsuming. the addition of multiple groups takes a little more time than it ought to. the first generation of idiot programmer(s) (not the Pine team mind you) who first placed in their code the idea of "do you REALLY want to do this" should be shot and forced to read LOGO. of course I wanted to "do this". why do you think I pressed the key! just my $02/100 worth... -Mike- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 14:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04216; Fri, 5 May 95 14:33:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20869; Fri, 5 May 95 14:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20863; Fri, 5 May 95 14:25:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Up8-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 14:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Noel Hunter Subject: Re: Automatic mailing list? Date: 5 May 1995 19:50:10 GMT Message-Id: <3odvhi$sm7@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <3oc1mo$6l4@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: charnoft@wfu.edu (Forrest T Charnock) wrote: > Is there any way to generate automatic mailing lists using pine? >I mean, someone sends me mail with "add me!" in the body and they are >automatically added to a mail group. This isn't an exact answer, but you could try using the Smartlist package with procmail (our mail delivery agent). If oyu get it to work, let me know :-) It's at: ftp://Harry.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE:/pub/packages/procmail somewhere. It and procmail allow you to handle a lot of mail filtering and auto-processing when mail arrives. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu telephone: (910) 759-5812 fax: (910) 759-6074 * * Noel's Home Page * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 15:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06287; Fri, 5 May 95 15:31:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21057; Fri, 5 May 95 15:25:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21051; Fri, 5 May 95 15:25:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7VhM-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) Subject: "=20" Date: 5 May 1995 09:59:47 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: People on one of the mailing lists I'm on have been wondering why some people's mail has little "=20"s at the end of each line. I'm positive I've seen an explanation of it in the past, but the only thing I can remember about it now was that pine was somehow implicated in it. If any of you could provide an explanation, I would appreciate it -- mainly because I hate it when I know I've heard the details of something before but can no longer remember even the gist of them. Thanks. -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 15:46:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06966; Fri, 5 May 95 15:46:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22409; Fri, 5 May 95 15:37:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22403; Fri, 5 May 95 15:37:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7VuH-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Distribution list in addressbook problems Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 11:56:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have about 230 logins in a distribution list and much to my surprise I've discovered that several people aren't getting the messages I send using this list. Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a distribution list? Has anyone else experienced this problem? Thanks for any light you can shed on my problem. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/jkent ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 16:55:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09576; Fri, 5 May 95 16:55:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22730; Fri, 5 May 95 16:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22724; Fri, 5 May 95 16:47:45 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA06001; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:38 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28586; Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Jean Kent Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution list in addressbook problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 643 Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, Jean Kent wrote: > Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a > distribution list? > What, excuse my ignorance, is a "login in a distribution list"? David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 17:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11853; Fri, 5 May 95 17:51:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23854; Fri, 5 May 95 17:44:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23848; Fri, 5 May 95 17:44:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7XuV-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 17:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmarshall@flash.rdc.ab.ca (John Marshall, Red Deer College, (4) Subject: PMDF and MULTINET as SMTP server. Message-Id: <1995May5.111754@ns.rdc.ab.ca> Date: 5 May 95 11:17:54 MDT Status: O X-Status: I have installed Pine on My PC. I am using a Vax as my mail server. The vax is running PMDF and Multinet. I am using PMDF as my IMAP server. I followed the example in the 4.3 manual for PMDF for installing a SMTP server using MULTINET. The problem is when I send a message with the PC pine the window locks up for about an hour displaying the "Sending mail ...." message. Then when the message finally is sent the window locks up tight. Windows will not even let you close the window. It says "Use Q option". I would if I Could!!. Is there some pmdf.cnf setting to increase the "robustness" of the SMTP server?. Is there something wrong with the pine settings on the PC which causes it to lock up?. The relevant portions of PMDF.cnf looks like so: [] $U%[$L]@MTCP-DAEMON mtcp_local single_sys smtp mx noservice period 2 MTCP-DAEMON From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:41:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13755; Fri, 5 May 95 18:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25608; Fri, 5 May 95 18:36:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25602; Fri, 5 May 95 18:35:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7YjH-00038XC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Filtering and IMAP Date: 5 May 1995 15:41:09 GMT Message-Id: <3odgul$11rn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Jason Haar wrote: >IMAP allows you to open non-mail folders, so couldn't there be some way of >getting IMAP to edit files like .forward and .procmailrc? No, IMAP does not allow that, in general. >Actually, this reminds me of an earlier post I made asking if IMAP could >be used to store a central .pinerc file on the IMAP server instead of the >client - same principle - just opened up a bit further... Local filters >like procmail would be more efficient than getting the mailer to go >through filter hoops... > >That would be most excellent - but it would be moving away from the >simple model... Away from the simple model, yes, but towards where IMAP4 and IMSP are going in the future. IMSP allows the saving of configuration variables, etc., in the centralized repository. It also allows the IMSP server to tell a client where its IMAP mailbox is, which means that if you want to run twenty IMAP servers, your users don't need to know on which their mailbox resides. For more, check out the Cyrus IMAP4 server page, which has links to the IMAP4, IMAP4 authentication methods, and IMSP RFCs. It's at http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:46:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13923; Fri, 5 May 95 18:46:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25662; Fri, 5 May 95 18:39:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25656; Fri, 5 May 95 18:39:33 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id VAA18145; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:39:26 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA15930; Fri, 5 May 1995 21:39:23 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA02133; Fri, 5 May 95 21:37:56 EDT Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 21:37:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: David Dumaresq Cc: Jean Kent , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Distribution list in addressbook problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 1995, Jean Kent wrote: > > > Is there a limit to the number of logins that can be placed in a > > distribution list? > > > > What, excuse my ignorance, is a "login in a distribution list"? > I would assume she is using a common shortened form for 'login id', which is usually adequate on a single server to get mail to all logins . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:47:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13962; Fri, 5 May 95 18:47:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24844; Fri, 5 May 95 18:44:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24838; Fri, 5 May 95 18:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7YtH-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: forcing mail check Date: 5 May 1995 15:45:49 GMT Message-Id: <3odh7d$qj0@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Brad wrote: =On 2 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: = => > 3.92 is turning out to be chock-full o' code changes so it is probably => > going to be more Beta-ey than 3.91 when it is first released. (That word I => > just made up is pronounced BAY TAH EEE and it means it probably won't work => > quite right for everyone. :-) = = No, no, no, that's BEE TUH, not BAY TAH! Sheesh, you Americans are =strange. ;) ;) Not all of us. It wasn't me who wrote what you attributed to me above. :) I pronounce it "vita", like Latin for life. And, that "vee-tah", not "vih-tuh" like you strange furuhners pronounce "vitamins". (Just kidding. But that *is* how modern Greek pronounces that letter, Greek lost the "b" phoneme over a millenium ago.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 18:53:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14125; Fri, 5 May 95 18:53:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25797; Fri, 5 May 95 18:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25791; Fri, 5 May 95 18:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Yy7-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 18:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 20:37:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Joe Brennan) wrote: >User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a >probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? In the few cases it happened to me, this was due to NFS inconsistency problems. On IRIX, it happens from time to time, when a message is delivered to a NFS mounted texfile mailbox, which resides on another machine, and the delivery program is on a differen machine, than the reading one. The problem is that all of a sudden, a virtual page of 4K is being cleaned to 0es. When this happens in the middle of a message, pine gets confused. To check whether this is the case, fire an editor, in which you can see 0es, like emacs, on the NFS client host and see the contents of the message. I bet you you'll see the 0es. On the other hand, emacs running locally on the NFS server sees it right. The quick fix in such situations is to save the damaged message form the local emacs to a file, _before_ quitting pine. Another solution is to start a local (to the NSF server) pine, and visit the mailbox in question, which will acquire the lock from the remote one and prevent damage. Solution? May be an IMAP server, serving local boxes. Hope that helps, -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 19:46:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15076; Fri, 5 May 95 19:46:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25556; Fri, 5 May 95 19:44:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25550; Fri, 5 May 95 19:44:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7Zlu-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 19:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michael@pcnet.com (Intermix Ltd.) Subject: Re: Automated Reply...How to setup? Date: 4 May 1995 19:46:22 -0400 Message-Id: <3obp0e$6pn@pcnet1.pcnet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: STORM (storm@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : ...is there an easier way to create an : automated reply/mailbot? I couldn't find the FAQ file for this group. I'm desperately seeking help on this issue. The online help files are VERY poorly written and my Internet Service Provider is refusing to help on the grounds that "if we had to help every individual set this up, we wouldn't have time for anything else." Which may be true, but is awfully lame. Hasn't =anyone= out there taken the time to create a simple menu-driven or point-and-click type software for this yet? Thanks to any and all who respond. Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 20:49:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16121; Fri, 5 May 95 20:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26960; Fri, 5 May 95 20:45:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26952; Fri, 5 May 95 20:45:42 -0700 Received: from temasek.teleview.com.sg (temasek.teleview.com.sg [165.21.40.20]) by temasek.teleview.com.sg (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA30497 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:45:40 +0800 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 11:45:39 +0800 (SST) From: Yee Tian Subject: building pine with mailx To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I understand that if I did not specify the sendmail agent when I build pine, I will get the default mail agent ie "sendmail". 1) How can I change the sendmail agent to use "mailx" ? 2) In which document can I find this piece of information ? Please help !!!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16499; Fri, 5 May 95 21:05:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27055; Fri, 5 May 95 20:54:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27049; Fri, 5 May 95 20:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7avp-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blotorch Subject: Pico configuration question Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 09:00:20 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? mackiner@seattleu.edu LLLLLLL L LLLLLLL L L L LLLLLLL L L LLLL L L L L L L L L L LLLLLLL L LLLLLLL From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:35:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17350; Fri, 5 May 95 21:35:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26773; Fri, 5 May 95 21:25:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26767; Fri, 5 May 95 21:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7bKI-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: naskad@granite.pste.tec.nh.us (Internet Trainer) Subject: Unsubscribing Date: 5 May 1995 15:42:55 -0400 Message-Id: <3odv3v$2aa@granite.pste.tec.nh.us> Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if the Pine 3.87 is able to read newsgroups ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:44:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17619; Fri, 5 May 95 21:44:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27494; Fri, 5 May 95 21:33:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27488; Fri, 5 May 95 21:33:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7bXY-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ryan@interlog.com (David Ryan) Subject: Automatic Forwarding Date: 3 May 1995 15:49:00 -0400 Message-Id: <3o8mnc$4o1@gold.interlog.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to have automaitc forwarding in pine? I want to be able to receive mail directed towards one account automatically in another. As if a carbon copy could be forwarded to this secondary account. Can this be done? thanx ;) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 21:59:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18057; Fri, 5 May 95 21:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27135; Fri, 5 May 95 21:46:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peach.epix.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27129; Fri, 5 May 95 21:46:01 -0700 Received: (jgvd@localhost) by peach.epix.net (8.6.10/950112.08ccg) id AAA15489; Sat, 6 May 1995 00:42:39 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DearOldDad To: David L Miller Cc: Jonathan and DearOldDad , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The > problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages > have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. > Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape > sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it > sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning > ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. Hhummmmm ... I think the problem is that you assume we (Edward who asked the original question, and I) have a printer attached to the computer which is running PINE (or that we're running PC PINE). Not so; In my case (and I think also in Ed's) we are on a dial-up connection via modem to an internet provider runing unix (in my case BSD) PINE. I am (as is he) using a 486 desktop PC with a printer attached to LPT1. I am (don't know about him) running under Windows, and using Widows Terminal as the communication package.. I am on a basic ASYNC connection, no graphics. I have my PINE Setup to print to attached-to-ansi. OK, now here's the problem. When I choose Y (prYnt) it in fact DOES scroll my screen, and since I have a fast modem connection (14400 at present, I could go 28800 but my server can't handle it yet) the printout which starts 2 or 3 seconds later, has a lot of missing lines, sometimes even broken right in the middle of a line. A month or so ago, I was helping a friend set up his account on his computer, and he has a slow (2400) modem and his prYnt command worked fine, so I said to myself, 'self, maybe it's the screen scrolling too fast that's causing my problem', and sure enough when I got back and slowed mine down, it worked OK, actually works even better at 1200. Now I don't know if my original reply which called it 'screen capture' was the correct terminology, but in effect that's what it seems to be doing. All I was trying to do was tell ED how to make it work, with what he had available, even though it's sort of a homemade solution. Is there a better way to do it? For example is there some command string I could put under PINE setup outher than the default (lpr) which would direct it to MY printer? I don't think so, but ?? The reason I say I don't think so, is that seems to want a unix command which my PC will not understand running windows or dos. Or would a better communications package (other than windows terminal) help. I have CoMit available, I tried it once, didn't like it, and took it off, but I could reinstall it. Thanks for any help you might give on this. John (aka DearOldDad) > On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > > unix, BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 22:29:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18972; Fri, 5 May 95 22:29:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27596; Fri, 5 May 95 22:19:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27590; Fri, 5 May 95 22:19:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7cD8-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jroach@ainet.com (Jeri Jo Johnston) Control: cancel Subject: ATTENTION 40SOMETHING & OVER MALE/FEMALE Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 00:33:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri May 5 23:40:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20605; Fri, 5 May 95 23:40:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28883; Fri, 5 May 95 23:29:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28877; Fri, 5 May 95 23:29:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7dHy-00038RC; Fri, 5 May 95 23:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Subject: Pico configuration question.. Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 21:09:44 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? tom@ssc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 01:35:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23334; Sat, 6 May 95 01:35:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00174; Sat, 6 May 95 01:25:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00168; Sat, 6 May 95 01:25:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7f6d-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tedm@cypress.central.com (Ted Mittelstaedt) Subject: What is a good version of Pine for a Sparc running 4.1.3? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 04:51:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi All, I have just reconfigured my Sparc, and I would like to get a nicer mailer agent. I have heard a bit about Pine before, and I'd like to pull it down and compile it. For SunOS 4.1.3, what would be the most "stable" version. I don't need a lot of fancy features, just a better mailer than /bin/mail. Also, where do I get it and are there any gotchas for SunOS 4.1.3? Thanks, Ted From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 01:55:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23729; Sat, 6 May 95 01:55:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Sat, 6 May 95 01:44:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00484; Sat, 6 May 95 01:44:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7fQi-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Subject: Re: Pico configuration question.. Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:07:28 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > | > | Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing > | ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but > | automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? > | tom@ssc.com > | > | > > - From the man page: > > > -t Enable "tool" mode. Intended for when pico is used as > the editor within other tools (e.g., Elm, Pnews). Pico > will not prompt for save on exit, and will not rename > the buffer during the "Write Out" command. > This won't work using Pico as a stand-alone editor though; like the man page says, the -t switch works from within another program. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 02:00:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23904; Sat, 6 May 95 02:00:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00495; Sat, 6 May 95 01:49:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00489; Sat, 6 May 95 01:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7fXC-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 01:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Suggestion Re: Address Book Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 22:58:40 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It'd be neat to be able to search for something in a particular field (e.g. Nickname). That's all. :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:25:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25507; Sat, 6 May 95 03:25:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01463; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01457; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7gsE-00038TC; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Unix Pine, news and organization header Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 19:00:04 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 May 1995, John Davis wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 MAY 1995 18:06:41 GMT > From: John Davis > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Unix Pine, news and organization header > > I have Pine 3.91 installed on a PC running Linux. I am using Pine to read and > post news with a nntp server I have access to. How can I set the Organization: > header that gets posted with the news article? It does not pickup the > organization from my /etc directory and I've also tried a setenv Organization. > What shows up is the organization for my nntp server, which is not what I > want. > [...] This sounds like the very same problem I am having with Pine 3.91 on a Unix system. I put out a sounder on my service provider's newsgroup. Some respondents have suggested fiddling with the shell and local variables, but it doesn't seem to make any difference. I also am hoping someone will have an answer. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:26:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25569; Sat, 6 May 95 03:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01315; Sat, 6 May 95 03:15:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01309; Sat, 6 May 95 03:15:23 -0700 Received: by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id DAA20962; Sat, 6 May 1995 03:14:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 03:14:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Vic Walker Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, fbennet@cais.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks very much for your help. I was tearing my hair out trying to fix this! Vic Walker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Vic Walker R.Ph. - Senior Consulting Pharmacist vwalker@netcom.com or vwalker@hw1.cahwnet.gov *** Printed with 100% recycled electrons *** On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > The current Linux port of Pine assumes that the standard spell checker is > /bin/spell and that it works the same as on other Unix versions. To get > ispell to work, see the question about ispell in the Pine FAQ. Here is > an excerpt: > > 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can > create the following script and name it spell. > > > #!/bin/sh > ispell -l | sort | uniq > > To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' > dictionary: > + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory > + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' > + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL > $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, > .cshrc or .login file) > > > Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell > program, and it will recognize words stored in the private > dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the > standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does > not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. > However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv > SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to > provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The > manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine > users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could > not change it. > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vic Walker wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 05:23:46 GMT > > From: Vic Walker > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Latest version of Pine. > > > > > > In article <3o5ku7$qr0@news.cais.com> you wrote: > > : I am running Pine v3.89 and am having problems with my spell checker. I > > : just says could not find file... Does anyone have a solution to this?? > > : Also where can I get the latest for Linux and possibly for my pc. > > : > > : Next If anyone has info on software for a POP server that would be great! > > : > > : Thanks. > > > > Let me second fbennet@cais.com's request. I have not been able to get the > > spell checker to work for Pine under Linux either. The version is Pine > > 3.91. The Pico version is 2.5, and I'm using ispell 3.1.08 for the > > speller. When I try to spell check (^T), I get the ispell help screen, > > which suggests that ispell is being called but the correct file name is > > not being passed on. I asked about this a few days ago, but never saw an > > answer. > > > > If the Pine/Pico experts in Washington State (or elsewhere) could help > > us, you'll have at least two grateful users (fbennet and me.) > > > > Vic Walker > > vwalker@netcom.com > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 03:26:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25583; Sat, 6 May 95 03:26:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01294; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01288; Sat, 6 May 95 03:14:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7gqZ-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 03:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khanafer@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw Subject: Email Change Message-Id: <1995May1.082328.426@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Date: Mon, 1 May 95 05:23:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi There... I've got a mail fro USA but the Email is change: the Email must be: user@host.edu but it is: user@host.kuniv.edu.kw which is like me...How Come... Any One Can Help Me... Please Email Me... Nasseb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:21:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27668; Sat, 6 May 95 04:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02104; Sat, 6 May 95 04:08:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.niagara.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02098; Sat, 6 May 95 04:08:24 -0700 Received: by freenet.niagara.com (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA08030; Sat, 6 May 95 07:07:50 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 07:07:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrye Leckman-Masson Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: tleckman@freenet.niag.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am a new user on the Internet and am experiencing a few problems. PLEASE HELP!!!! I am enjoying using the Internet enormously but am in need of help. I have sent several messages successfully but a few return with HOST UNKNOWN marked. I check the addresses carefully. I use the Canadian Internet Handbook by Carroll and Broadhead. I have head that I can "get" the LONDON TIMES. How can I receive this? What about other European newspapers, in particular The Guardian(England) ? How to access: Anonymous Gopher I look forward to responses from this posting Thank you in advanve terrye tleckman@freenet.niag.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:25:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27729; Sat, 6 May 95 04:25:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02172; Sat, 6 May 95 04:14:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02166; Sat, 6 May 95 04:14:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7hkI-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 04:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjensen@csulb.edu (Susan Jensen) Subject: virtual reality Date: 6 May 1995 01:00:48 GMT Message-Id: <3oeho0$kp2@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: -- Susan Zoe Jensen Computer Science Engineering, senior CECS405 sjensen@heart.engr.csulb.edu Occupation=programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 04:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28444; Sat, 6 May 95 04:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02830; Sat, 6 May 95 04:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02824; Sat, 6 May 95 04:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7iDB-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 04:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J.E. Maxwell" Subject: Parsing error Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 19:39:05 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi pine users, What could be causing the following error condition in PINE 3.90's posting to the newsgroups: ==> [Error posting message: 441 Can't parse "Date" header] <== !~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~~~!~~~~~~! ! J.E. Maxwell | Tel. (916) 752-3164 ! ! Med. Biol. Chem. Dept. | (916) 427-9013 ! ! Univ. of California - Davis | FAX (916) 752-3516 ! ! Davis CA 95616 |e-mail maxwell@krebs.ucdavis.edu ! !========!========!========!========!========!========!========!======! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 05:21:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29083; Sat, 6 May 95 05:21:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02748; Sat, 6 May 95 05:11:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02742; Sat, 6 May 95 05:11:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7icf-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ye11@cornell.edu (Eugene Epshteyn) Subject: Re: Pine under linux and DOS - lockfiles? Date: 3 May 1995 19:53:12 GMT Message-Id: <3o8mv8$gt6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <3o4k1e$do2@ns2.via.at> Status: O X-Status: Christian Fischer (ChFi@via.at) wrote: : I would like to use pine under linux and under DOS, using the same local : message folders under both OS. I have set up pine under linux to access the : folders on my DOS-partition. Now, the problem is that every time pine accesses : a folder on this partition it tries to create a lockfile by appending .lock to : the folder name. Since this is not possible on a DOS partition, pine just hangs : for a few minutes and then gives a message like "cannot create lockfile ...". Get umsdos package for linux and mount your dos partition as umsdos. Linux will treat it as a regular unix partition (long file names, etc.) DOS, on the other hand, will see the same file names, if they confirm to DOS file system standards. If they don't, then such filenames will be changed. Actual file names are kept in a separate file. I don't guarantee that this'll work, but if you do this, linux will be able to create *.lock files, and DOS should see all your folders without any problems. Hope this helped Eugene -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Eugene (Yevgeniy) Epshteyn ~~ ~~ ye11@cornell.edu ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 07:39:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01208; Sat, 6 May 95 07:39:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04689; Sat, 6 May 95 07:30:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04680; Sat, 6 May 95 07:30:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7kpL-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: ---->> Non- US-ASCII character sets Date: 4 May 1995 19:31:46 GMT Message-Id: <3oba32$9tn@news.ysu.edu> References: Here's a little test string of some accented characters: >=E9=E8=A7=BB=EC=EB=EA=E8=E7=E6=E4=F3=E1=F1=F7re=F6=E3=F8=FA=EE=ED > >If anyone receives these as a set of characters with accents My non-MIME-aware newsreader lets me know these are accented characters. If I mail myself this message from the mailer which does not pass 8-bit characters and view it with an ISO 8859-1 xterm running Pine, I see... , ` ` " ^ ` " , , ~ " ~ ' ^ , e e section-sign >> i e e e c ae a o a n divide r e o a o-slash u i i ' ^^^ These two characters did not appear as 8-bit accented characters. I hope that's what you were intending... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:14:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01820; Sat, 6 May 95 08:14:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04293; Sat, 6 May 95 08:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04287; Sat, 6 May 95 08:11:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7lRE-00038TC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Douglas Bates Subject: Handling digests Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 14:41:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I hope this isn't in the FAQ ... Is there a way in pine of "undigesting" mail received in digest form? For example, rmail in GNU emacs offers an undigest command. View-mail binds this function to the '@' key to indicate an exploding digest, as I recall. Are there similar facilities in pine? I wasn't able to locate anything on digests in the help files. Douglas Bates bates@stat.wisc.edu Statistics Department 608/262-2598 University of Wisconsin - Madison http://www.stat.wisc.edu/~bates/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:19:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01917; Sat, 6 May 95 08:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04342; Sat, 6 May 95 08:15:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04330; Sat, 6 May 95 08:15:02 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11357; Sat, 6 May 95 08:14:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 08:14:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: DearOldDad Cc: David L Miller , Jonathan and DearOldDad , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printer Configuration In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: John, David was not assuming that your printer was attached to the machine running Pine. In fact, the whole purpose of "attached-to-ansi" mode is to deal with exactly the hardware configuration you describe; however, you must: o have a communication program on the PC that understands ansi printer escape sequences. o pay careful attention to flow-control issues. There's no screen capture involved, and if there was, that would be a function of your comm program rather than Pine. If, when you print from Pine using "attached-to-ansi" and you see the text on your PC screen, you assuredly do *not* have a communications program that fully understands ansi printer escapes. If some things print, but you lose data, especially on longer messages, that almost always means there is a flow-control problem somewhere. See the Pine FAQ for more details on printing problems... (Send a msg to pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu to get a copy.) -teg On Sat, 6 May 1995, DearOldDad wrote: > On Fri, 5 May 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > No, the print command in Pine is not a screen capture utility. The > > problem is that an unfortunately large number of communication packages > > have broken or non-existant implementations of ANSI printer controls. > > Pine has a very simple procedure for printing. First, it sends an escape > > sequence to switch output to the printer, then it sends the text, then it > > sends the sequence to switch back to the screen. A properly functioning > > ANSI emulation will not affect the display while printing. > > Hhummmmm ... I think the problem is that you assume we (Edward who asked > the original question, and I) have a printer attached to the computer > which is running PINE (or that we're running PC PINE). Not so; In my case > (and I think also in Ed's) we are on a dial-up connection via modem to an > internet provider runing unix (in my case BSD) PINE. I am (as is he) > using a 486 desktop PC with a printer attached to LPT1. I am (don't know > about him) running under Windows, and using Widows Terminal as the > communication package.. I am on a basic ASYNC connection, no graphics. I > have my PINE Setup to print to attached-to-ansi. > > OK, now here's the problem. When I choose Y (prYnt) it in fact DOES > scroll my screen, and since I have a fast modem connection (14400 at > present, I could go 28800 but my server can't handle it yet) the printout > which starts 2 or 3 seconds later, has a lot of missing lines, sometimes > even broken right in the middle of a line. > > A month or so ago, I was helping a friend set up his account on his > computer, and he has a slow (2400) modem and his prYnt command worked > fine, so I said to myself, 'self, maybe it's the screen scrolling too > fast that's causing my problem', and sure enough when I got back and > slowed mine down, it worked OK, actually works even better at 1200. Now > I don't know if my original reply which called it 'screen capture' was > the correct terminology, but in effect that's what it seems to be doing. > > All I was trying to do was tell ED how to make it work, with what he had > available, even though it's sort of a homemade solution. > > Is there a better way to do it? For example is there some command string > I could put under PINE setup outher than the default (lpr) which would > direct it to MY printer? I don't think so, but ?? The reason I say I > don't think so, is that seems to want a unix command which my PC will not > understand running windows or dos. Or would a better communications > package (other than windows terminal) help. I have CoMit available, I > tried it once, didn't like it, and took it off, but I could reinstall it. > > Thanks for any help you might give on this. > > John (aka DearOldDad) > > > On 5 May 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > > > > > Edward Morykwas (edog@oeonline.com) wrote: > > > > > > : I'd love to be able to print my incoming e-mail on paper using > > > : Pine, but I can't seem to find the right configuration! > > > : My system is not exotic: an IBM-compatible 486 with an HP Deskjet > > > : 540 printer. Could anyone help me get set up correctly? > > > > > > Ed: Put your email on-screen and type Y for prYnt. Don't blame me, I > > > didna have nothin to do with the command sets, just another frustrated > > > user tryin to learn Greek. If it doesn't work, make sure you have your > > > printer config set to #1 attached to ansi. If it skips lines (which it > > > probably will if ya got one o those high speed video cards and modems) > > > set your modem to a lower speed (like 1200 or 2400) because you see the > > > pine prYnt command is not really a Print command afterall, but it's > > > really a screen capture utility, so ya have to slow your screen down. > > > > > > Re-reading this, I realize it's probably very confusing, so if you have > > > any questions, please feel free to e-mail me and/or follow up to this > > > post. The persons who wrote the pine program assumed that we were all > > > unix, BYE. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:39:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02216; Sat, 6 May 95 08:39:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05404; Sat, 6 May 95 08:36:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05398; Sat, 6 May 95 08:36:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7lqn-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gpl@gauss.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Unix pine ignoreing ^M ? Date: 6 May 1995 10:53:47 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to get Unix pine to ignore ^M in a folder file? Specifically, I have both Linux & Microsoft Windows on my PC. In windows, I have a program called Eudora that does pop-mail. Since I can mount the dos partition under linux, I would like to just have a symbolic link to the file Eudora uses. When I try this, and use pine to access the link as a folder, it says there is 1 message in the folder. When I try to look at it, it says that it can't find "APPLICATION/OCTET-STREAM". If I copy the dos file to linux and strip out the ^M s from it, it will then read the file just fine. Is there anything I can do? I have tried ELM on the link file, and it works fine (though I like Pine much better and would prefer to find some solution using it.) I hope this is clear :-) Thanks. Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 08:56:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02489; Sat, 6 May 95 08:56:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04673; Sat, 6 May 95 08:53:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from balder.ssds.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04667; Sat, 6 May 95 08:53:24 -0700 Received: (from mail@localhost) by balder.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) id JAA15790 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:51:21 -0600 Received: from denver(134.127.16.1) by balder via smap (V1.3) id sma015786; Sat May 6 09:51:01 1995 Received: from chicago.ssds.com (chicago.ssds.com [134.127.26.1]) by denver.ssds.com (8.6.9/8.6.9.SSDSnet-hub) with SMTP id JAA01384 for ; Sat, 6 May 1995 09:51:00 -0600 Received: by chicago.ssds.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26572; Sat, 6 May 1995 10:50:56 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 10:50:55 -0500 (CDT) From: James Weaver - Chicago X-Sender: jew@chicago To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please take me off pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT Status: O X-Status: How do I get off pine-info? I've tried sending mail to Majordomo, but no success. See below. Thanks ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:31:33 -0700 From: Majordomo@cac.washington.edu To: jew@ssds.com Subject: Majordomo results >>>> unsubscribe pine-info **** No matches found for 'James Weaver - Chicago ' >>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:29:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03217; Sat, 6 May 95 09:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05015; Sat, 6 May 95 09:26:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05009; Sat, 6 May 95 09:26:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7mbK-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 03:59:02 GMT Message-Id: <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> Status: O X-Status: In article <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov>, Robert Bagwill wrote: >You don't have to install procmail as a delivery-time filter. Using the >-m flag, users can invoke it themselves, or it can be invoked on their >behalf by a script. Of course, I don't know what your configuration is, >so I don't know if that's feasible for you. The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and .forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not feasible with 20,000 users! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:50:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03672; Sat, 6 May 95 09:50:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06213; Sat, 6 May 95 09:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06207; Sat, 6 May 95 09:45:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7mvL-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Problem with domain name when sending mail Date: 6 May 1995 04:02:35 GMT Message-Id: <3oescr$u6d@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu>, Matthew Cravit wrote: >I am having a problem with Pine 3.90 on Solaris for x86 version 2.4. >When I send mail to a local user (ie put only the username in the to: >field), pine drops the hostname from the domain. Are you sure it's Pine and not sendmail playing with rewrite rules? Sounds to me like a common thing for sendmail to do, especially when you have a centralized mail hub available at the domain level. Read /etc/sendmail.cf to see if that's what it is doing. (I'm not going to tell you which rulesets to look at, because anybody who claims to know the function of rulesets greater than 4 is lying, since they have no mandatory function.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 09:59:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03882; Sat, 6 May 95 09:59:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05290; Sat, 6 May 95 09:56:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05284; Sat, 6 May 95 09:56:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7n65-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca (Marc Slemko) Subject: bug in pine screen display? Date: 5 May 1995 22:14:34 -0600 Message-Id: <3oet3a$k9e@alive.ampr.ab.ca> Status: O X-Status: I have noticed that when using pine (3.90 and 3.91), on occasion text is in inverse video when it shouldn't be. It happens extremely rarely, and refreshing the screen clears it. I have noticed it both on Linux and logged into two different AIX boxes. If I go to enter a message using the built in editor, then enter characters on the 18th line of the message which correspond to any or all characters of the '----- Message Text -----' screen header, then do a ^Y then a ^V, those characters in the 18th line of the message that do correspond to '----- Message Text -----' will be printed in inverse video. If you are not clear about what I mean then: - start composing a message and move to the first line of body - hit enter 17 times - enter '----- Message Text -----' - hit ^Y - hit ^V The '----- Message Text -----' in the body should be in inverse video. I only noticed it because my signature starts with an '-- ' and it happened to be on that line when I went to the previous page then back to that page. Has anyone else seen this behavior? It's not a big problem since it doesn't really affect much, but if an easy fix can be made perhaps it should. -- Marc Slemko 1:342/1003@fidonet marcs@alive.ampr.ab.ca marcs@alive.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 11:16:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05206; Sat, 6 May 95 11:16:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07215; Sat, 6 May 95 11:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07209; Sat, 6 May 95 11:11:37 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA09136; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:11:28 -0700 Received: from [134.87.143.13] by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12135; Sat, 6 May 1995 11:11:26 +0800 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 12:13:35 -0900 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is a good version of Pine for a Sparc running 4.1.3? X-Sender: david@wizard In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 890 Status: O X-Status: We've been running Pine 3.90 for SunOS 4.1.3, and 4.1.1, 4.1.2, Sol 2.3 on Sparcs with good results. We've just moved up to 3.91 which has improved the speed for starting Pine and are waiting (along with the masses) for Pine 3.92. No gotchas to mention, maybe just be aware when you're compiling that debug mode is on by default. You may want to turn this off eventually because it tends to create debug files. David. On Sat, 6 May 1995, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Hi All, > I have just reconfigured my Sparc, and I would like to get a nicer > mailer agent. I have heard a bit about Pine before, and I'd like to > pull it down and compile it. For SunOS 4.1.3, what would be the most > "stable" version. I don't need a lot of fancy features, just a better > mailer than /bin/mail. Also, where do I get it and are there any gotchas > for SunOS 4.1.3? > > Thanks, > Ted > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 11:54:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05937; Sat, 6 May 95 11:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07727; Sat, 6 May 95 11:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07721; Sat, 6 May 95 11:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7os7-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Bastin Subject: Catch Up For Newsgroups Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:28:59 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anybody know if there's a way to make PINE performa a "catch up" type function on news groups? That is, automatically delete say all messages before a certain date (and keep the ongoing threads if possible) in a particular newsgroup. Obviously this is useful if the user has been away for a while or hasn't read news for a few days. Thanks. __________________________Matthew Bastin_________________________ | matthewb@bom.gov.au | | Bureau Of Meteorology | | Sydney N.S.W. | | (02) 269 8555 | |_________________________A U S T R A L I A_______________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:19:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09531; Sat, 6 May 95 15:19:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08314; Sat, 6 May 95 15:15:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08308; Sat, 6 May 95 15:15:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7s7P-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 5 May 1995 12:01:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> References: Status: O X-Status: Natalie Maynor (maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote: > People on one of the mailing lists I'm on have been wondering why some > people's mail has little "=20"s at the end of each line. I'm positive > I've seen an explanation of it in the past, but the only thing I can > remember about it now was that pine was somehow implicated in it. If > any of you could provide an explanation, I would appreciate it -- mainly I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a language other than English? Larry Miller Administrador de Redes / Network Administrator Centro de Investigaciones Biologicas del Noroeste, La Paz, BCS Mexico lmiller@cibnor.conacyt.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:24:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09656; Sat, 6 May 95 15:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10280; Sat, 6 May 95 15:22:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10274; Sat, 6 May 95 15:22:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7sC7-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 15:48:39 GMT Message-Id: <3og5on$1b2s@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Mumit Khan wrote: >In article <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, >Trey Harris wrote: >>The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and >>.forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are >>not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to >>the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can >>think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention >>whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not >>feasible with 20,000 users! >Do you have a central mail server with a /var/spool/mail where ALL the >mail gets delivered? If this spool directory is not available on the >clients, then how do the user read their email? Obviously not on the mail >server, since you say that the home directories are not available there. >(Am I reading your message completely wrong here?) Um...we were talking about IMAP, right? How else? That's the real reason to use IMAP, to offload all the mail access services from your login machine to your IMAP server. And frankly, I don't especially want lots of procmail stuff, etc., running on that server, since it's running fairly smoothly and sometimes jerkily with just sendmail and imapd running. >Our setup is a bit weird -- we have machines in 2 different locations with >a rather reasonably large latency link in between (and can be flaky at >times), so mounting /var/spool/mail is out. We've chosen, rather, to route >all incoming messages via a set of MX'd central mail servers (via sendmail >alias map) to the machine that serves user's home directory and then have >procmail deliver it locally to their home directories. I'm glad it works for you, but it sounds like a nightmare when I apply it to my site, which has 20,000 users currently (but a growth rate of 200% per year!). Considering that all of my machines are in one machine room, connected by a high-speed fiber net, I don't see the latency concerns as a problem. I saw source somewhere for a rewrite of /bin/mail that, when used for delivery, checked to see if it was attempting to deliver over an NFS link, and if so, would abort the save and deliver the mail message to the NFS server via SMTP. Nifty. (I've also heard that that's what SPARCs do by default, but I'm unable to verify that.) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 15:47:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10271; Sat, 6 May 95 15:47:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08628; Sat, 6 May 95 15:42:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08622; Sat, 6 May 95 15:42:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7sVK-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 6 May 1995 07:01:21 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Status: O X-Status: lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) writes: >I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain >non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a >mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on >literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a >language other than English? It's in English. But the postings might include odd characters at times. I'll watch for that. Thanks for the response. -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 16:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10594; Sat, 6 May 95 16:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10787; Sat, 6 May 95 16:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10781; Sat, 6 May 95 16:01:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7smZ-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcjones@cais2.cais.com (Mark Jones) Subject: Re: Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 16:51:16 GMT Message-Id: <3og9e4$qhf@news.cais.com> References: <3ofvl0$335@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Mark Swearingen (mark@ephesus.com) wrote: : When I compose a message in Pine, there is no Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line. : Is there a configuration option I can set to make this available? With the cursor in the header area, hit ^R for "RICH Header". (^R with the cursor located in the body of the message will ask for a file to READ into the message). -- It's... _ /| + MARK C. JONES a.k.a. mcjones@cais.com + + + + THE TOWN BULLY! \'o.0' + mcjones@capaccess.org + + quoth DAN QUAYLE: + Be afraid... -=(___)=- + "If we do not succeed, then we run the risk + Be VERY afraid... U AACK! + of failure" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 16:40:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11362; Sat, 6 May 95 16:40:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09216; Sat, 6 May 95 16:37:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09210; Sat, 6 May 95 16:37:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tMN-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 16:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Daniel Swim Subject: Two questions. Message-Id: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 10:00:42 -0300 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have two questions: 1. In pine, when printing, how do I get the burst page shut off? 2. When viewing a newsgroup in pine hwo do you delete multiple messages instead of hitting the d key many times over? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Daniel Swim Telephone: (902) 893-6642 (ext 1480) Plant Industry Branch Fax: (902) 893-0244 N.S. Dept. of Agriculture and Marketing Email: DS@gusws.nsac.ns.ca Truro, Nova Scotia, Canada If I only had a 400 4/233 model AXP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:03:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11845; Sat, 6 May 95 17:03:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11479; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11473; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tid-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) Subject: Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 14:04:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ofvl0$335@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: When I compose a message in Pine, there is no Blind carbon copy ("Bcc:") line. Is there a configuration option I can set to make this available? Thanks, --- Mark Swearingen / NYC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:04:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11952; Sat, 6 May 95 17:04:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09466; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09460; Sat, 6 May 95 17:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7tm7-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcjones@cais2.cais.com (Mark Jones) Subject: Get Rid of Headers? Date: 6 May 1995 16:44:20 GMT Message-Id: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of editing them out? Thanks for any help! -- It's... _ /| + MARK C. JONES a.k.a. mcjones@cais.com + + + + THE TOWN BULLY! \'o.0' + mcjones@capaccess.org + + quoth DAN QUAYLE: + Be afraid... -=(___)=- + "If we do not succeed, then we run the risk + Be VERY afraid... U AACK! + of failure" + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:36:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12576; Sat, 6 May 95 17:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11864; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11858; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7uFR-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riptide@one.net (nobody) Subject: Sorting: address --> folder Date: 6 May 1995 21:58:37 GMT Message-Id: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: Basically, what I'd like to do is have it so that if a message from a specific address(es) arrives in my mailbox, I can file it into a corresponding folder. For instance, I want to get back on a specific mailing list, but it sends over 20 messages an hour. Many times I don't have the patience or the ability to find my other messages mixed in with the mailing list messages. Can I set Pine up to do this? If there is another mail util I can use to do this or an add on to Pine, please let me know as well. Thanks! JR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 17:52:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12935; Sat, 6 May 95 17:52:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09930; Sat, 6 May 95 17:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Simpsons.CC.UH.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09924; Sat, 6 May 95 17:49:32 -0700 Received: from lisa.cc.uh.edu by simpsons.cc.uh.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0M) id AA10096; Sat, 6 May 95 19:49:31 -0500 Received: by lisa.cc.uh.edu (NX5.67d/NX3.0X) id AA04527; Sat, 6 May 95 19:49:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 6 May 1995 19:47:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Hsu Subject: Secret of Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi... Could someone send me a copy of "Secret of Pine"? My email address is : opto3p@bart.cc.uh.edu Thanks Tony From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 18:56:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13960; Sat, 6 May 95 18:56:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10489; Sat, 6 May 95 18:51:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10483; Sat, 6 May 95 18:51:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7vIk-00038sC; Sat, 6 May 95 18:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ken@clark.net (Ken Goldstraw) Subject: PGP and pine? Date: 7 May 1995 01:19:11 GMT Message-Id: <3oh76f$l9n@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Another user was telling me that he read a message explaining that you could use PGP in Pine via script files. Anyone know how this is done? Ken -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBtAy+sGjQAAAEDALoUwNwD/s5YZXECq6PbWJg09MEvltSHaCLG9PFUC5Kt639U AZwhVDmW37KG+v08F6wbDrrQoQqwLBgAcFm5NNN/TzQKf9Xhw26Xh423jtKMtJKQ b2b3YkkfY8Zf+Zit9QAFEbQdS2VuIEdvbGRzdHJhdyA8a2VuQGNsYXJrLm5ldD4= =CvrA -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 19:02:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14123; Sat, 6 May 95 19:02:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12862; Sat, 6 May 95 18:57:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12856; Sat, 6 May 95 18:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7vVo-00038SC; Sat, 6 May 95 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: pine: general-use FAQ or DOCS?? Date: 6 May 1995 16:04:42 GMT Message-Id: <3og6mq$vve@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3oah3e$d2t@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: In article , Andrew Le wrote: >I would like to know how to set up an alias so that I can receive >mail using a different name... > >For example, say I have an account with username "joe" but everyone >else knows me as "joe1." > >How would I set up an alias using pine so that everyone who sends >mail to "joe1" will have their mail delivered to "joe"? Aliases (or "nicknames" or "addressbooks") are not what you want in this case. You cannot change the address by which you can receive mail without the assistance of a system administrator. Let me explain the reasons for this. Suppose your boss's username is "boss". If you can make it so that all mail that's destined for "joe1" will be rerouted to "joe", then it stands to reason that you could also make it so that all mail to "boss" goes to "joe". A system that allowed you to divert anyone else's email to you at any time would not be a very good one! This doesn't mean that there's nothing that you can do. You didn't say in the above why everyone knows you as joe1. Perhaps you have two accounts, one named joe and another older one named joe1? If so, create a file called ".forward" in joe1's home directory, with the single line "joe". Even if there isn't a joe1 account extant, there is another facility for getting mail addressed to another name. Such system-wide or recipient-end aliasing is very common on the Internet. Contact your system administrator; he or she should know what to do. If you are the system administrator for your site, you'll need to take the following steps: 1. Become root. 2. Open /usr/lib/aliases (the filename may slightly differ on some systems, a find /usr -name aliases -print should find it) in your favorite text editor. 3. At the bottom of the file (or wherever convenient) add the line: joe1: joe (That's joe1, colon, tab, joe.) 4. Save and quit your editor, and run "sendmail -bi". 5. Now all mail directed to joe1 will go to joe instead. If you are using a mail-transport agent other than sendmail, the steps may differ. In Sendmail V8, you can also set up an alias such that every time someone uses it, they get a message about "joe" being the new and preferred address and to please use that one in the future. Consult your documentation for details. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat May 6 19:57:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15118; Sat, 6 May 95 19:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11053; Sat, 6 May 95 19:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11047; Sat, 6 May 95 19:52:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s7wN0-00038RC; Sat, 6 May 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: 6 May 1995 04:37:51 GMT Message-Id: <3oeuev$1r5o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3o5rcv$7iq@dove.nist.gov> <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oes66$1bd6@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: > >The problem is not that procmail does its filtering at delivery-time (and >.forward files are not available) but rather that home directories are >not available to the mail server and /var/spool/mail is not available to >the login machines. Maybe there's some way to do it, but the ways I can >think of are pretty hairy and would require sysadmin intervention >whenever the user wants to change one of his or her filtering rules--not >feasible with 20,000 users! > Do you have a central mail server with a /var/spool/mail where ALL the mail gets delivered? If this spool directory is not available on the clients, then how do the user read their email? Obviously not on the mail server, since you say that the home directories are not available there. (Am I reading your message completely wrong here?) Our setup is a bit weird -- we have machines in 2 different locations with a rather reasonably large latency link in between (and can be flaky at times), so mounting /var/spool/mail is out. We've chosen, rather, to route all incoming messages via a set of MX'd central mail servers (via sendmail alias map) to the machine that serves user's home directory and then have procmail deliver it locally to their home directories. No NFS locking nightmares and the users have no problem running procmail or other filtering agents (such as slocal) via their .forward entries after the local delivery is done. It turned out to be extremely stable and scalable as we add/remove users and add/remove file servers where users are served from. We simply don't have to deal with /var/spool/mail (or /var/mail) anymore and it's a good thing! There were about a list of dozen or so gotchas we had to deal with, but it was easy and done over a weekend. For sites that don't allow .forward (for security reasons or what not), user's can simply write procmail wrappers that wait for mail arrival to their MAILBOX and deal with it accordingly (either wake up every so often or work like biff). mumit -- khan@xraylith.wisc.edu http://www.xraylith.wisc.edu/~khan/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 00:25:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19803; Sun, 7 May 95 00:25:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16480; Sun, 7 May 95 00:19:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16474; Sun, 7 May 95 00:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s80XP-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@ephesus.com (Mark Swearingen) Subject: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 6 May 1995 13:05:08 GMT Message-Id: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to change the return address ("From:" line) in a mail message created in Pine? I see the following parameters in .pinerc for changing the personal name and the domain name, but nothing for changing the user name: # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= Thanks for any help you can offer, --- Mark Swearingen / NYC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 01:31:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21520; Sun, 7 May 95 01:31:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17419; Sun, 7 May 95 01:27:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17413; Sun, 7 May 95 01:27:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s81N0-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 01:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markb@grumpy.rc.arizona.edu (Mark Borgstrom) Subject: Convex: "Error resetting signals: Interrupted system call" Date: 3 May 1995 22:57:45 GMT Message-Id: <3o91p9$so4@news.ccit.arizona.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm having a bit of a problem running Pine 3.91 on a Convex C240 version 11.0 of the OS. Everything seems to work correctly except when I exit Pine it gives the message: Error resetting signals: Interrupted system call It gives this message for debug level <7, but not for debug level >=7. This message is generated in the signals.c code in the pine directory, but its not obvious to me what the debug level has to do with generating this message. Has anyone run into this problem before? Thanks! Mark Borgstrom The University of Arizona From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 01:46:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21958; Sun, 7 May 95 01:46:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14346; Sun, 7 May 95 01:42:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14340; Sun, 7 May 95 01:42:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s81uL-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu (Forrest Gump) Subject: Re: "Message to save shrank!" Date: 1 May 1995 23:01:10 GMT Message-Id: <3o3p7m$1ai@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: This means the user was using Pine and at the same time another POP e-mail s/w (like Eudora) which made a mailcheck and downloaded the mail. I have had users recieve messages saying INBOX shrank to 0bytes. Make sure they use one MUA to read mail at any given time. Joe Brennan writes in comp.mail.pine: + User here has got this twice now. What should we be looking for as a + probable cause for a message "shrinking" by 10 bytes? Brief details + attached... I don't want to post someone else's whole debug file + publicly. + Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems + Columbia University in the City of New York + brennan@columbia.edu + ----- + Error displayed by pine: + [Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)] + ----- + Section of .pine-debug: + q_status_message, Count 1, "Message to save shrank! (#5: 2316 --> 2306)" + BOTCH: 5 save shrank mc->size == 2316, string == 2306 + FAILED save of msg-id <> + ----- + Comes from this place in mailcmd.c: + /* + * What's really needed is a way to pipe this crap right into + * context_append... + */ + /* set up string driver */ + #ifdef DOS + . . .[skip ahead]. . . + #else + if((mlen = strlen((char *)so_text(so))) < message->rfc822_size){ + q_status_message3(1, 2, 4, + "\007Message to save shrank! (#%ld: %ld --> %ld)", + (void *)message->msgno, (void *)message->rfc822_size, + (void *)mlen); + dprint(1, (debugfile, + "BOTCH: %ld save shrank mc->size == %ld, string == %ld\n", + message->msgno, message->rfc822_size, mlen)); + so_give(&so); + return(0); -- Shrim@bubba.ocis.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner | http://monroe.temple.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 03:27:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23935; Sun, 7 May 95 03:27:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18769; Sun, 7 May 95 03:22:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18763; Sun, 7 May 95 03:22:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s83SB-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 03:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: franklin@millenium.texas.net (Frank Schmidt) Subject: Re: how to define username ??? Date: 7 May 1995 02:50:18 GMT Message-Id: <3ohcha$nhl@empire.texas.net> References: Status: O X-Status: ecramer (root@luna.nl) wrote: : I recently started using pine on Linux 1.2.1. Altough I like it, : there is one thing I can't figure out. : How to change the left-hand side from my header. : It's possible to set another domainname, so why isn't it possible : to set another username. : The only solution I could find is to add a user with the desired : username to my system and start pine beeing that user. : Can anybody help me :-( I am posting this follow-up to keep this question around. I too would like the answer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 04:01:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24618; Sun, 7 May 95 04:01:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15522; Sun, 7 May 95 03:57:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15516; Sun, 7 May 95 03:57:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s840d-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 03:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: odin@gate.net (PNEWS) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 09:57:06 GMT Message-Id: <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net> References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> Status: O X-Status: Natalie Maynor (maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu) wrote: : lmiller@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx (Larry Miller [DT]) writes: : >I believe pine encodes certain characters in messages that contain : >non-standard ascii. If this thusly-encoded message is sent to a : >mailer which doesn't know how to interpret them, it sends them on : >literally, and they show up in the encoded format. Is this list in a : >language other than English? : It's in English. But the postings might include odd characters at : times. I'll watch for that. Thanks for the response. : -- Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu) It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. -Hank- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 04:34:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25725; Sun, 7 May 95 04:34:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19709; Sun, 7 May 95 04:28:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19703; Sun, 7 May 95 04:28:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s84Sb-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 04:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Random .sig generator Date: Mon, 24 Apr 1995 08:55:42 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3n5shv$1su@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA> <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <15925.9504241041@lang2.st-andrews.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 24 Apr 1995, Giuseppe Andrea Teti wrote: > 1. I have version 3.91, which -if I'm replying to some message- puts the .sig > on top of this message, which is really awkward if I want to reply using > original text. Is there any way of outting the .sig at the bottom? This is the default action (signature-at-bottom) for reply, but not for forwarding which I think is what you really meant. > 2. I have a group of friends to whom I regularly forward three or four messages > a day- is there any way I can automatise this creating a special header? I don't think there is a simple setup option to do this. I believe it is done this way to distinguish a forwarded message from a reply. Forwarded messages are not quoted. There is probably some RFC out there which says to do it this way. If you really need to do this, you could get fancy with editor macros. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 05:13:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26697; Sun, 7 May 95 05:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20218; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20193; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s856Z-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP daemon as Mail-user agent Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:55:13 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3o2v9u$176c@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: You're on the right track. If you use the c-client API, you could support both local and IMAP mailboxes, since c-client has all that stuff in it. You probably do *not* want to write your own locking code if you can avoid it. If you want to hear why, take me to the nearest pub, order a pitcher of beer, and hear the tale of sorrow and woe... ;-) Anyway, yes, if you only use IMAP then you won't have any locking to worry about. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On 1 May 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > (Is there a newsgroup for IMAP? A grep imap in my active file revealed > nothing...) > > I am writing a Mail-user agent (MUA) for my users. Not a generalized > program for their everyday mailreading, but rather to do some things that > my users are always asking me how to do and takes twenty or thirty > commands in pine (more if they don't yet have the aggregate-command-set > enabled). However, since the program would have to access the mailboxes > and change their contents, it does meet the definition of a MUA. > > Since my users operate over a sealed IMAP server, we cannot allow them a > mail filtering program such as procmail (if anyone has ideas on this, let > me know). So, I'm writing a simple program that will filter a user's > current mailbox at login time via IMAP. > > My question is this: it appears to me that, if I use IMAP and only IMAP > (i.e., I don't write anything in my script that will deal with Unix > textfile INBOXes), that I can jettison all the code one ordinarily must > write to deal with mailbox locking, because the IMAP daemon is already > doing them for me. > > Am I correct? In essence, in an IMAP client/server situation, isn't it > the IMAP daemon which is the MUA for mail reading, since it is handling > all the locking issues and mail message formats? > > (Oh, by the way, I'm not totally aversive to writing mailbox-locking > routines, I've just never done it before. If anyone knows where I can go > to read everything I ever wanted to know about mailbox locking, please do > let me know.) > -- > Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris > System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology > The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 05:14:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26729; Sun, 7 May 95 05:14:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16488; Sun, 7 May 95 05:09:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16482; Sun, 7 May 95 05:08:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s856c-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Mon, 1 May 1995 22:57:17 -0700 Message-Id: References: <97dc-0105951148430001@student_97dc.williams.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You don't need an SMTP gateway, but do you do need an SMTP server somewhere to talk to. If your PC is on the Internet, almost any system will do, but you should probably pick a machine that is local to you (e.g. your local UNIX machine). You tell PC-Pine which server to use by setting the smtp-server configuration parameter. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. On Mon, 1 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > Hi, > > OK, I've got PC-Pine ... I've got Unix Pine ... I've got the imapd > running ... I've got TCP/IP on the PC running. I can access my mail > folders on the Unix machine with PC-Pine via imapd. This is GREAT, works > well. (for windows, by the way). > > Problem is that I can't send mail. When I send it, the screen beeps at me > and then puts the cursor back up into the To: line. (a few seconds delay > here and there as well) > > What's wrong? > > Do I need something else, like an SMTP gateway (this is what the PC guy > tells me is required for commercial packages - but it costs big bucks) ? > I thought that Pine took care of this. > > Help, I am a little confused. > > On a second minor point - how do I get PC-Pine to see an addressbook > on the Unix machine. (or a signature for that matter)? When I specify > {machine.here.there}/path/.addressbook it just creates a file on my > PC's hard drive called c:/{machine.her > > Thanks, > > Marc Kneppers > knepperm@cuug.ab.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 06:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27998; Sun, 7 May 95 06:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17093; Sun, 7 May 95 06:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from actcom.co.il by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17077; Sun, 7 May 95 06:16:00 -0700 Received: from galtronics.UUCP by actcom.co.il with UUCPgaltronics (8.6.12/actcom-0.1) id QAA15705 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 7 May 1995 16:15:16 +0300 (rfc931-sender: uucp@localhost) Received: by aviion.galtronics.co.il (5.4R2.10/ACTCOM-GALTRONICS-S-1.0) id AA28405; Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:14 GMT Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 15:47:14 +0000 (GMT) From: Aladdin Khamis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Procmail In-Reply-To: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can somebody send me a sample copy for .procmailrc, that I can use under pine to do mail filtering ? Thankx > |\/\/\/| > | | > | | > | (o)(o) > C. __) > | \___| > | / > /____\ > / \ > / \ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 07:00:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28765; Sun, 7 May 95 07:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17506; Sun, 7 May 95 06:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17500; Sun, 7 May 95 06:54:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s86lJ-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 06:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unger@raindrop.seaslug.org (Tom Unger) Subject: Re: Printing in PC-Pine for Windows Date: Tue, 2 May 1995 02:56:17 GMT Message-Id: <1995May2.025617.5227@raindrop.seaslug.org> References: Status: O X-Status: PC-Pine for Windows tries to print in the same font and size as the text appears on your screen. "WhatYouSeeIsWhatYouGet" You should be able to hold the printed page over the window and find the text is exactly the same size. If it does not match then this is not a perfect world. Either windows lies about some screen dimensions or I am an inadequate windows programmer. Try increasing the font size in the pine window then print again. Perhaps you can find a font that is acceptable both on the screen and the page. If you have some unusual screen resolution set up that may be what causes the discrepancy. The next version will allow you to independantly set the window font and the printer font. BTW. I don't remember a "Setup|Printer" under a "Main Menu" Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle In article , Marc Elbirt wrote: >When I print in Windows, I get condensed print (132 columns, about 100 lines >per page). This is unacceptable and unreadable. > >How do I change this to a more standard printout of 80 columns and 60 >lines per page? > >I tried Setup|Printer from the Main Menu, but the program responds with >nothing but a short pause. > >I am running Windows for Workgroups 3.11 with an HP LaserJet IIIp, all >properly configured. I am using Pine 3.91, downloaded about 4 weeks ago. -- -- Tom Unger WWC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 07:14:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29069; Sun, 7 May 95 07:14:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21618; Sun, 7 May 95 07:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21612; Sun, 7 May 95 07:09:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s86yU-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Public Use of Pine Date: 7 May 1995 01:55:47 GMT Message-Id: <3oh9b3$1j1l@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ocbnd$16j@abel.richland.cc.il.us>, James Jones wrote: =We have PC's available for student use which are connected to a terminal =server through serial lines using trumpet winsock with wfw311. =Right now, our students have to telnet into our linux host and run pine from =a shell. Frequently, pine will lock or a student will go off without =logging out. =What I would like to be able to do is have the students not even have to =login to the unix machine to get their mail. I would like to have them =sit down at the public terminals, run pine, supply a login name and =password, and get their mail without having to mess with the linux side of =it. I don't want any user information stored on the local machines since =it will be a different person using it the next time. What you want is IMAP4 with IMSP capability. IMSP allows a centralized server to hold configuration options (such as addressbooks, Pine defaults, etc.) which a mail client can download to configure itself to a given user. Unfortunately, it isn't really available today except in very beta form. Look for it later this year, or check out http://andrew2.andrew.cmu.edu/cyrus/cyrus for information about an ongoing IMAP4/IMSP project. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 08:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00287; Sun, 7 May 95 08:14:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18179; Sun, 7 May 95 08:09:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18173; Sun, 7 May 95 08:09:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s87vw-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 08:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlfitz@cais2.cais.com (Jeffrey Fitzgerald) Subject: How Do I Update PINE??? Date: 7 May 1995 06:13:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ohodi$igd@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I would like to update PINE 3.89 to 3.91. I don't know how to get the update. I am on a unix based system, and any help is appreciated... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald // if you have to ask, jlfitz@cais.com \X/ you don't understand. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Real Life On-Line Help 24 Hrs a Day... Jesus@Heaven.God * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 09:26:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01822; Sun, 7 May 95 09:26:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23145; Sun, 7 May 95 09:22:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23139; Sun, 7 May 95 09:22:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s88xN-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Pico configuration question Date: 7 May 1995 15:31:36 GMT Message-Id: <3oip4o$1l4i@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , blotorch wrote: > Can Pico be set up up so that when you save a file by typing >ctrl-O, it won't ask for the name of the file to save to, but >automatically save to whatever the name is of the file thats open? pico -t -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 10:12:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02842; Sun, 7 May 95 10:12:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19279; Sun, 7 May 95 10:07:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19273; Sun, 7 May 95 10:07:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s89ii-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 15:45:17 GMT Message-Id: <3oipud$1mga@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net>, PNEWS wrote: >It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you >include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question >before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. Listproc (characterized by the "To: Multiple recipients of" header) in particular rips out all headers and replaces them with its own. This means that if you have a MIME-encoded message, you have to guess at its type, and if you have a MIME multipart message you have to recreate the boundary-encoding, which is obscure. It's a hairy problem, but there's nothing you can do to get the list processor to behave differently. (Maybe a message to listserv with 'SET LIST xxx DWIM'? ;) The powers-that-be where I work have asked me to look at a utility called "munpack" which is supposed to extract MIME messages from text, even with corrupt headers (but that's only what a powers-that-be committee has told me, I don't know if it's true :). ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 11:37:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04109; Sun, 7 May 95 11:37:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24608; Sun, 7 May 95 11:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24602; Sun, 7 May 95 11:29:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8B3k-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gcherer@millenium.texas.net (GT Cherer) Subject: What the heck is xbiff? Date: 2 May 1995 15:31:51 GMT Message-Id: <3o5j97$6lk@empire.texas.net> Status: O X-Status: and where do i find how to fiddle with it?? tia beaucoups -- G.T. Jeff Cherer gcherer@texas.net Voice: 210-532-7524 SnailMail: 1132 Vanderbilt St. 78210 "Time is the fire in which we burn. But, with a tasty sauce..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 11:43:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04299; Sun, 7 May 95 11:43:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20152; Sun, 7 May 95 11:39:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20146; Sun, 7 May 95 11:39:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8BC4-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmalling@dormouse.syr.edu Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 18:35:49 GMT Message-Id: <3oj3u5$t45@newstand.syr.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: The =20 on the end of the line is the "quoted-printable" representation of a blank. Since some mail transport agents strip trailing blanks the mime capable user agent used quoted-printable to make sure they were not stripped. Programs are dumb so they have to assume that it it's there it must be important. Glenn A. Malling Syracuse University Computing Services +1 (315) 443-4111 220 Machinery Hall Syracuse, New York 13244-1260 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:15:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08370; Sun, 7 May 95 15:15:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22121; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22115; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8ETu-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Change return address ("From:") in Pine Date: 7 May 1995 15:54:21 GMT Message-Id: <3oiqfd$n6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ofs65$fp@news.panix.com>, Mark Swearingen wrote: >Is there a way to change the return address ("From:" line) in a mail message >created in Pine? I see the following parameters in .pinerc for changing the >personal name and the domain name, but nothing for changing the user name: Ack, nak! Don't ask for that! That ain't a feature, that's a bug. With 20,000 users (most of whom are undergraduates), I probably get two or three complaints from faculty who have gotten suspicious email of which the supposed sender later denied authorship. And usually it isn't unattended terminal syndrome, either, but kids who have figured out how to use /usr/lib/sendmail or telnet localhost smtp. I spend enough time already consoling those profs and explaining to them how the big wide Net works. If Pine had a *configuration option* for forging messages, I wouldn't have time to do anything else! Security through obscurity... :) -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:15:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08376; Sun, 7 May 95 15:15:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27211; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27205; Sun, 7 May 95 15:10:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8ERE-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joc@netaxs.com (Joseph Casadonte) Subject: Multiple Selection from Address Book Date: 7 May 1995 15:32:02 GMT Message-Id: <3oip5i$av1@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I was wondering if there was a way to select multiple names from the address book? For example, I'm forwarding something to 3 people, I hit ^T to get to the address book, and then 'S' or enter to select the address. Then I have to go back to the address book, etc, etc. Now, I understand that I can just type the nicknames; that's what they're there for after all, right? My problem is I usually find something interesting and go thru my book and say, "who would also find this interesting". TIA! joe joc@netaxs.com "Are you suggestin' coconuts mi-grate?" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 15:30:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08632; Sun, 7 May 95 15:30:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27350; Sun, 7 May 95 15:25:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27344; Sun, 7 May 95 15:25:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8EjH-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu (Matthew Cravit) Subject: Problem with domain name when sending mail Date: 4 May 1995 18:38:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ob6v7$5tq@hal.cs.depaul.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am having a problem with Pine 3.90 on Solaris for x86 version 2.4. When I send mail to a local user (ie put only the username in the to: field), pine drops the hostname from the domain. In other words, if I put in "root", Pine expands it to "root@acs-lc.depaul.edu" instead of "root@teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu". I have specified the following in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed: user-domain=teacher.acs-lc.depaul.edu And I have taken the user-domain directive out of /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. I have also tried this with and without the use-only-domain-name set. Can anyone suggest to me how I might be able to fix this? The box on which Pine is running is going to be for relatively unsophisticated users, and I don't want to make them have to type the whole domain name if I can help it. Thanks /Matthew Cravit, System Manager DePaul University -- Matthew Cravit, | "After all is said and done, Academic Technology Development | more is said than done." DePaul University, Chicago IL | -- Anonymous E-Mail: mcravit@hawk.depaul.edu +----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 16:03:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09108; Sun, 7 May 95 16:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22553; Sun, 7 May 95 15:58:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22547; Sun, 7 May 95 15:58:32 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA21161; Sun, 7 May 95 18:51:19 EDT Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 18:51:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@yacht To: Pine List Subject: Pine 3.92 requested feature. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Would it be possible to include a "Cancel Article" function in the News section of Pine? I posted an article via Pine that wasn't recognized as mine when I tried to Cancel it via nn, and I'd kinda have liked to do that. TIA T | Christopher Curtis | In order to understand | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | recursion, one must first | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | understand recursion. | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 16:17:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09365; Sun, 7 May 95 16:17:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22691; Sun, 7 May 95 16:10:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22685; Sun, 7 May 95 16:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8FP5-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 16:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: How to use any spell-checker you like Date: 7 May 1995 22:27:37 GMT Message-Id: <3ojhgp$1gh1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Assuming you have access to a shell prompt and the 'enable-alternate-editor-cmd' and 'editor' Pine config variables aren't fixed at your site, using any old spell check program you damn well please isn't a problem. The reason is that spell-checkers qualify as "editors", in that they take the file whose name they were given on the command line and change it, then save it back in place. Spell checkers like Ispell are simply specialized editors. There are many other examples of such things; PGP encryption can also be used in such a fashion. So, you can make use of this fact to allow you to use any spell checker, editor, encryptor, etc.--without having to constantly change your Pine configuration. What you do is this: 1. Do you have a "bin" directory in your home directory? If not, create one (cd ; mkdir bin). Add it to your PATH or path environment variable: a. Edit .cshrc, .profile, .bashrc, or .zshenv (which one you edit depends on your shell; probably whichever you see when you do an "ls -a" is the right one). Look for a line, very early on in the file, that has "path" or "PATH" in it. It may look something like this: setenv PATH /bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/usr/local/bin or like this: PATH=/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/opt/bin:/usr/local/bin or even like this: path=( /bin /usr/local/bin /sbin . ) If the line has a PATH in all caps, then there will be colons in between the values, if lowercase path then spaces. Make sure to leave colons or spaces between each value, and stay inside the parentheses if they're there. b. When you've found a line like the above, go to the end (if there is a dot [.] right at the end, insert right before that dot) and add $HOME/bin (if you're editing a .profile) or ~/bin (if you're editing anything else). Make sure to add a colon if necessary! c. Save your file and log out and back in to let the changes take effect. 2. Now, go into your bin directory (cd bin), and create a new file. I call mine editi, you can call yours whatever you like. Put the following lines in the file: #!/bin/ksh read editor?"Editor?>> " exec $editor $* Make sure that the #! line is the *first* line of the file! (If you don't have the KornShell available on your site, you can try the following Perl script instead: #!/usr/bin/perl print "Editor?>> "; chop(($editor=)); exec "$editor", @ARGV; which should work just as well. If you have neither, then I feel sorry for you. :) [Actually, you can do this in any language.] 3. Save the file. Then type chmod 755 to give the file executable, i.e. "program", status. 4. Go into pine. In Setup/Configuration options, find "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" and check it if it isn't already. Then, right down near the bottom of the options, there's one called "editor". Change its value to be "editi" (or whatever you called the thing you just created). 5. Now, when you need to use any sort of "editor" other than Pico, just press control-underscore while composing. You'll get the "Editor?>>" prompt, and you can type the name of any editor you want, including ispell, emacs, or whatever. You can give it arguments as you please, i.e. "ispell -t". The only restriction is that the editor must take the file it is editing as its last argument. Have fun! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 17:15:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10620; Sun, 7 May 95 17:15:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28697; Sun, 7 May 95 17:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28691; Sun, 7 May 95 17:10:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8GNB-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 17:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Sorting: address --> folder Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:45:51 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ogred$v2@mail.one.net> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, nobody wrote: > Date: 6 MAY 1995 21:58:37 GMT > From: nobody > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Sorting: address --> folder > Basically, what I'd like to do is have it so that if a message from a > specific address(es) arrives in my mailbox, I can file it into a > corresponding folder. [...] > Can I set Pine up to do this? If there is > another mail util I can use to do this or an add on to Pine, please let > me know as well. Thanks! Yet one more time. Pine itself does not do mail filtering. It can use the _results_ of mail filtering done by another program, such as procmail on Unix. For instance, I use procmail to pick out mailings from one listserv into a separate folder readable by Pine. It is done quietly, so to speak, even when I am not logged on. In this case, however, all mailings come from one or the other of two specific userids. Whether you can adapt it to your situation I don't know. Nancy McGough's mail filtering FAQ has lots of good information and instructions. I was able to set up procmail easily just by following a recipe. The FAQ is available at: [USENET newsgroup:] news.answers ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq (If you do not have access to these resources, I can email you a copy.) It is probably possible to do what you want to do. It's just a question of finding the right resources and documentation to do the job. The filtering FAQ is a good place to start. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 17:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10924; Sun, 7 May 95 17:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23497; Sun, 7 May 95 17:25:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23491; Sun, 7 May 95 17:25:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8GYp-00038SC; Sun, 7 May 95 17:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 7 May 1995 22:43:05 GMT Message-Id: <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com>, Bob Brody wrote: >Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective >mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name >(or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. >Consequently my inbox, newmail, etc., is inundated with hundreds of >mailings daily and I have no way of telling if an email is via listserv >or something specifically sent to me one-to-one. Subject info isn't >necessarily helpful in differentiating listserv from personal email. You're suffering from a very common misunderstanding of the way the list distribution programs work. The misunderstanding is because it is initially counterintuitive, but once you think about it, I think you'll understand. You see, when we talk about email that we have received because we are on a list, we say, "oh, I just got mail from the ziffle-bang list". But really, the ziffle-bang list didn't write anything. A *person*, say Jane Smith from Kenosha, sent that mail, and in actuality the mail is *from* Jane. All the ziffle-bang list did was propogate it to many different people, much the same as if you had received the mail yourself and bounced it to a bunch of your friends. It's not the From header that is important in determining whether the mail is coming from a list, it's the *TO* header. What you really want to know is not who the mail is from, but whether it is to you, or to you and ten thousand of your closest pals on the ziffle-bang list. This always surprises me when I hear people struggling with this backwards way of doing things, mostly because I've been using and running lists for so long that this seems only natural. But if you think about it, from the list's point of reference, this *is* natural. The mail is coming *from* Jane. It's going *to* the list, which you happen to be on. Lists aren't publications, but it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking of them as such. So, check the To line instead of the From line. Better yet (and this is what I do because it's so easy) look to the left of the numbers in your folder index. Mail to a list should have only the "N" for new messages. But mail that is specifically to you should have a plus next to it, too. If it doesn't, then that's something that should be fixed in Pine 3.92. But probably it works, and you just haven't noticed the little plus sign. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 18:35:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12083; Sun, 7 May 95 18:35:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29655; Sun, 7 May 95 18:30:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29649; Sun, 7 May 95 18:30:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Hc2-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 01:26:41 GMT Message-Id: <3ojs0h$sec@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> <3ojidp$1l6b@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Trey Harris (harris@email.unc.edu) wrote: >You see, when we talk about email that we have received because we are on >a list, we say, "oh, I just got mail from the ziffle-bang list". But >really, the ziffle-bang list didn't write anything. A *person*, say Jane >Smith from Kenosha, sent that mail, and in actuality the mail is *from* >Jane. All the ziffle-bang list did was propogate it to many different >people, much the same as if you had received the mail yourself and >bounced it to a bunch of your friends. >It's not the From header that is important in determining whether the >mail is coming from a list, it's the *TO* header. What you really want >to know is not who the mail is from, but whether it is to you, or to you >and ten thousand of your closest pals on the ziffle-bang list. >This always surprises me when I hear people struggling with this >backwards way of doing things, mostly because I've been using and running >lists for so long that this seems only natural. But if you think about >it, from the list's point of reference, this *is* natural. The mail is >coming *from* Jane. It's going *to* the list, which you happen to be >on. Lists aren't publications, but it's easy to fall into the trap of >thinking of them as such. Well, if that's the way I should think of it, then that's how I will, I'm easy. But I have 'ta tell 'ya, it's not how I see it. When I recieve a magazine in the mail, say, Smithsonian, or Wired, Mad (my favorite) or whatever, there are lots of contributing articles to the gist of the magazine. These articles are not "from" so-&-so, they're "by" so-&-so, and they're not sent to "me" they're sent to the magazine. I receive so-&-so's article "from" the magazine, not from so-&-so. Consequently, where I use Internet services that don't present an index of mail via Pine, I get an Inbox that might look like this: ADA-LAW@vm1.nodak Filing deadlines outdoor-L@ulkyvm trash bins outdoor-L@ulkyvm RE: trash bins Shannon Brody Hi, Dad ODP-L@tamvm1 Slant drilling mishap Whereas via Pine: Brent Wilson Filing deadlines Ellen Smith trash bins Scott McIntyre RE: trash bins Shannon Brody Hi, Dad Bill Whitman Slant drilling mishap And when I have many Inbox screens filled with sometimes hundreds of mails arrived, it's just much easier to note the real source of the mail, the list, to distinguish what's what and from where. From "whom" is not the source lest it's a personal email and to present just a person's name doesn't help when it's coming from a listserv because the mail is really not "to me." So I respectfully disagree with your view as to the origin of an email. >So, check the To line instead of the From line. But the To line is not what's listed in my Inbox index screen, the person the mail is from is what's listed. OTOH, if there's a Pine setting that will show me the To: line rather than the From: line when I view my Inbox index, then perhaps that's precisely what I'm after and I haven't configured Pine properly to do it. >Better yet (and this is >what I do because it's so easy) look to the left of the numbers in your >folder index. Mail to a list should have only the "N" for new messages. >But mail that is specifically to you should have a plus next to it, too. Now we're in sync. I was over-looking this and indeed you're right, the plus sign distinguishes personal email and I thank you for the tip (I wonder if I can perform a sort that will organize personal email from everything else; anyway, no matter, looking for the plus sign is very helpful, thanks). Remains, however, to be able to distinguish various listserv mailings but in fact I'm not as concerned about that now that I'm reminded of the efficacy of the plus sign. Thanks for the reply. Regards, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 18:59:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12593; Sun, 7 May 95 18:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24352; Sun, 7 May 95 18:55:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24346; Sun, 7 May 95 18:55:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8HxK-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 18:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gray@access5.digex.net Subject: Folder Passwords? Date: 7 May 1995 11:17:08 -0400 Message-Id: <3oio9k$dtt@access5.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to attach passwords to individual folders? Thanks in advance. * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:13:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13091; Sun, 7 May 95 19:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00253; Sun, 7 May 95 19:08:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00247; Sun, 7 May 95 19:08:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8I7n-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: new-month messages In-Reply-To: Carl Reimann's message of Mon, 1 May 1995 00: 28:09 -0400 Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 01:37:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article Carl Reimann writes: I strongly dislike having Pine ask me if I would like to zap old sent-mail folders. I could accidentally hit 'y' and loose tons of mail. I would really like to see a way to turn that feature off as it is extremely dangerous. >From the "Secrets of Pine 3.90" document that Pine offers to send the first time you run 3.90 (and probably 3.91 -- I've forgotten now): o You can suppress the monthly "sent mail" pruning prompts by setting the "last-time-prune-questioned=" variable in your .pinerc to a date far in the future, e.g. "99.9" You will need to do this by manually editing your .pinerc; you cannot change this value from the Setup/Config screen. -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4823 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:19:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13196; Sun, 7 May 95 19:19:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24605; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24593; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8IH7-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul O. Bartlett" Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 11:23:22 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! It sounds to me as if you have full headers toggled on when you do the export. When you are viewing an item in Pine, try pressing the 'h' key a couple of times and watch what happens to the headers. The export command writes out full headers or not depending on the status of the headines, full or not. It works for me with Unix Pine 3.91. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 19:19:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13220; Sun, 7 May 95 19:19:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00354; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00348; Sun, 7 May 95 19:15:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8IKS-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 19:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: filtering, once and for all Date: 7 May 1995 03:40:16 GMT Message-Id: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name (or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. Consequently my inbox, newmail, etc., is inundated with hundreds of mailings daily and I have no way of telling if an email is via listserv or something specifically sent to me one-to-one. Subject info isn't necessarily helpful in differentiating listserv from personal email. So I simply must be able to separate mail if only visually in order to spot personal email from listserv and/or junk email. Some services I've used in the past list listserv mail as sent from the listserv, not by name of who wrote the note, followed by subject/thread info. That makes it very easy to tell which is from which listserv or if personal email. But I'm not able to do that with Pine. Suggestions/instructions/documentation on how to fix this problem will be most appreciated. I read a faq on filtering, by Nancy McGough, but the instructions do not work via many ISP's, including this one, Primenet. No fixit suggestions from her end and evasive techno- gibberish from Primenet's end as to why her .forward file's string doesn't work here, etc., etc., etc. So I need help on this because I find myself either subscribing to different services just to subscribe to a single listserv thus always knowing which mail is which, or unsubscribing from listservs because I just can't distill personal email from hundreds of listserv posts when everything is presented by personal sender name. Clearly (no pun intended, well, maybe so ) there's got to be an expeditious way to deal with this. I frustratingly seek your experience if you've figured it out. Bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 21:15:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15567; Sun, 7 May 95 21:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01839; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01833; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8K27-00038TC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: "=20" Date: 7 May 1995 18:58:22 GMT Message-Id: <3oj58e$91j@news.ysu.edu> References: <3oipud$1mga@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> <3odp50$fs6@cibnor.cibnor.conacyt.mx> In article <3oi5hi$2152@news.gate.net>, PNEWS wrote: >>It occurs with MIME incompatability, especially on lists. How can you >>include a header to avoid this from happening? I've asked this question >>before and apparently NO ONE can provide an adequate answer.. > >Listproc (characterized by the "To: Multiple recipients of" header) in >particular rips out all headers and replaces them with its own. This >means that if you have a MIME-encoded message, you have to guess at its >type, and if you have a MIME multipart message you have to recreate the >boundary-encoding, which is obscure. It's a hairy problem, but there's >nothing you can do to get the list processor to behave differently. >(Maybe a message to listserv with 'SET LIST xxx DWIM'? ;) Sure, LISTSERV does include the possiblilty to get mail with full headers. Unfortunately, it's not the default, and likewise, anyone in need of full headers (for MIME awareness) must issue this command. Quoting here from the LISTSERV mail received upon giving the INFO REFCARD command... [*CUT* *SNIP* *CHOP* *THWACK* *SLICE* *SEVER*] *-> LISTSERV REFCARD: General user commands * [*CRUNCH* *MUNCH*] SET listname options Alter your subscription options: [*CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP* *CLIP*] Options for mail headers of incoming postings (choose one): FULLhdr or FULLBsmtp -> "Full" mail headers IETFhdr -> Internet-style headers SHORThdr or SHORTBsmtp -> Short (default) headers DUALhdr -> Dual headers, useful with PC or Mac mail programs [end quotation] HTH. HAND. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 21:15:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15612; Sun, 7 May 95 21:15:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25785; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25779; Sun, 7 May 95 21:09:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8K1j-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: suggestion Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:52:11 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: All you really need are Y/Enter to print with the default printer and N/^C to cancel. Only, before hittiny Y/Enter, you'd have the option to edit the print command. Kinda like when you're opening a remote folder over IMAP... ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 28 Apr 1995, John Andrea wrote: > So that if it comes up with lpr -Pprinter > the options are yes no and modify, and selecting modify allows you to > change the name of the printer for this message. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:08:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16583; Sun, 7 May 95 22:08:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26332; Sun, 7 May 95 22:01:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26326; Sun, 7 May 95 22:00:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Ks9-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 21:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsa0001@jove.acs.unt.edu (James Scott Allen) Subject: Making Money By MAIL Date: 8 May 1995 04:25:45 GMT Message-Id: <3ok6g9$38f@hermes.unt.edu> Status: O X-Status: If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all of your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. 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Box 6825 Denton, TX 76203 The following letter was written by a participating member in this program. To those with the COMMON sense to participate in this easy money opportunity: About six months ago I received the enclose letter, I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two week.I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two weeks and I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletin board in Phoenix. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people wereas skeptical as I, they would not be too quick to part with $5.00. But, I BUY LOTTERY TICKETS WEEKLY IN MY STATE AND HAVE NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT BUT TICKET STUBS! This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out $1.00 in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't receive anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can not say that I received $50,000.00, but it was definitely well over $35,000.00! For the first time in 10 years I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it did not take me long to go through my earnings, so I am using this excellent money opportunity once again. FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS AND GET READY TO ENJOY! Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that this is no gimmick! Good Luck, Jody Kerr Paradise Valley, AZ. Hey.... I'm one of the people who downloaded this awhile ago, and I've made quite a profit...not 50,000 dollars, but TONS more than the 5 bucks I sent in. It might take more than 60 days to get 50,000, but I think I can wait. Danny Wood From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:59:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17653; Sun, 7 May 95 22:59:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03069; Sun, 7 May 95 22:54:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03063; Sun, 7 May 95 22:54:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Lfk-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 22:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "H. Marc Kneppers" Subject: Re: IMAP confusion (and addressbook too) Date: Wed, 3 May 1995 09:35:30 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 May 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 2 May 1995, H. Marc Kneppers wrote: > > > On Tue, 2 May 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > > > > > "SMTP connection went away" indicates that the connection to the SMTP > > > server closed unexpectedly. I wonder if there might be some sort of > > What TCP/IP stack are you running on the PC? I've seen problems > with FTP Software's stack in version 2.3 and below. > I'm not the PC guy, but when I ask him about that he says this: He's not sure what you mean by 'stack'. I assume that it is the protocol layers or something like that - tcp/ip sits on top of something else, etc. APparently, there seem to be two stacks, one that comes with windows and one that the Novell network uses. (Windows 3.11, Novell Lan Workplace for DOS 4.2). The order of loading seems to be: Novell stack (ipx), then tcp, then windows (netbui). From there we try to run Pine. Any help at all? Thanks, Marc kneppers@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 22:59:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17677; Sun, 7 May 95 22:59:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03089; Sun, 7 May 95 22:55:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03083; Sun, 7 May 95 22:55:42 -0700 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (bsherman@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.10/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA20378 for ; Sun, 7 May 1995 22:04:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Mark Jones Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! In Pine3.91 while reading e-mail use the following commands: 1) "V"iewAttch command 2) "S"ave function 3) "E"xit Viewer This only exports the body of the message to a file no matter what the status is of the headers are (ie: Rich or Suppressed). Hope this helps! -- "It would be quite possible to control a distant computer by means of a telephone line." - Alan Turing, 1947 "Who the hell is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk?" Actual comment overheard from one of my users! []=====================================================================[] [] Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager [] [] E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman bsherman@teleport.com [] [] snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. Portland, Oregon USA 97209 [] [] Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 Fax: 503-222-7465 [] []=====================================================================[] ++INCLUDE /usr/bsherman/Std.Disclaimer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 23:05:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17860; Sun, 7 May 95 23:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26943; Sun, 7 May 95 23:01:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26937; Sun, 7 May 95 23:01:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Lpu-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 22:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Imre Toro Subject: Sending mail in the background Date: 3 May 1995 15:30:44 GMT Message-Id: <3o87j4$47@ictpsp10.ictp.trieste.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi! Is it possibile to configure Pine to send mails in the background as is in Elm. Now while sending a mail I have to wait until the "Sending mail..." message disappears. Any helps appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun May 7 23:45:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18426; Sun, 7 May 95 23:45:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03670; Sun, 7 May 95 23:41:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03664; Sun, 7 May 95 23:41:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8MNY-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chenhui Feng Subject: Re: Get Rid of Headers? Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 20:52:36 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3og914$q4s@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: On 6 May 1995, Mark Jones wrote: > I often export e-mail items to files in my home directory. However, > when I do so, there's always 1 or 2 screenfulls of header info that comes > along with it, which I then have to edit out. Is there any way to supress > these headers, in whole or in part, in order to eliminate the step of > editing them out? Thanks for any help! Try to use command 'v'(view) and save as an attachment, there would be no header in your saved file at all. Chenhui From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 00:01:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18775; Mon, 8 May 95 00:01:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27505; Sun, 7 May 95 23:56:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27499; Sun, 7 May 95 23:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Mbm-00038RC; Sun, 7 May 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 06:26:08 GMT Message-Id: <3okdi0$g0c@news.primenet.com> References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: Phil Tompkins (tompkins@earth.cnct.com) wrote: > >When you display your list of mail, press the semi-colon key, >which is the select command. When you are asked for criteria, >choose T (text), then A (all text), then key in the name of >one of your listservs. > >Then press A (apply next command to all selected mail). >Then you can either save all selected messages to another folder, >or you can export to a file in your home directory. > >I use export. Since I have communication software on my PC with >buffer capture to disk, I exit Pine, go to shell, turn on buffer >capture,then cat the file I exported to. Then I read the stuff >off line. > >A little awkward, but when Pine comes out with a scripting ability >it will be just fine. A "little" awkward?? I've got more than a dozen listservs to deal with. I'm familiar with the approach you mention but I'm not one who gets off on fondling my keyboard. I just wanna see what mail I've got, especially in the morning when I first check for anything urgent before going about my business. OTOH, I've been thinking my PC's comm program has a fine scripting language and I might very well be able to automate the procedure you've outlined. I use its scripting language for automating a number of online actions. I think I can massage it for this purpose as well. Ideally, I'd just like to see listserv mail amid real email show up like this: outdoor-l (size) new campsites outdoor-l (size) trail bikes biotech (size) a breakthrough law-net (size) tort reform law-net (size) RE: tort reform Jessica Brody (size) I need $$, Pop archeaology-l (size) scrolls translation etc. While I appreciate what was said about how another views lists mail, I view 2-way lists as a kind of interactive magazine. I would like to see my mail listed by way of the list and of course respective article subjects. Probably no need to have more than the list's name which prefixes the @ sign. I'm afraid I can't see this as any simpler or easier to distinguish which mail is which at instant glance. The previous explanation given me as to how listserv mail should be considered simply strikes me as time consuming if not arcane. bob brody@primenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 01:49:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21128; Mon, 8 May 95 01:49:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05182; Mon, 8 May 95 01:41:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05176; Mon, 8 May 95 01:41:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8OHq-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 01:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Tompkins Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: Sun, 7 May 1995 22:32:38 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: On 7 May 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > Define the problem: I subscribe to many listservs, but when respective > mail arrives, all I see as far as sender is concerned is a person's name > (or ename, whatever). I *do not* see that it's from xyz listserv. etc. Try this: Go into Setup. Choose configure. Activate the aggegate command option. Exit Pine, then go back in. When you display your list of mail, press the semi-colon key, which is the select command. When you are asked for criteria, choose T (text), then A (all text), then key in the name of one of your listservs. Then press A (apply next command to all selected mail). Then you can either save all selected messages to another folder, or you can export to a file in your home directory. I use export. Since I have communication software on my PC with buffer capture to disk, I exit Pine, go to shell, turn on buffer capture,then cat the file I exported to. Then I read the stuff off line. A little awkward, but when Pine comes out with a scripting ability it will be just fine. Phil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 03:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22823; Mon, 8 May 95 03:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29348; Mon, 8 May 95 03:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29342; Mon, 8 May 95 03:01:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8Pap-00038SC; Mon, 8 May 95 02:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s11976@ctsc.hkbc.hk (PM Wong) Subject: Where is Unix Pine FAQ Date: 8 May 1995 15:24:20 +0800 Message-Id: <3okgv4$ik9@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: The subject says it all. Is there such an FAQ, if so, where ? -- \\\// (o o) [----------------ooO-(_)-Ooo---------------] PM Wong (Computer Officer) CTSC [User User User User User User User User Us] Hong Kong Baptist University [ser User User User User User User User Use] 224 Waterloo Road, Kln. HONGKONG [er User User User User User User User User] Voice: (852)3397425 Fax: 3397888 [------------------------------------------] Email: pm@ctsc.hkbc.hk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 05:53:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27008; Mon, 8 May 95 05:53:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08247; Mon, 8 May 95 05:41:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08241; Mon, 8 May 95 05:41:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8S5d-00038RC; Mon, 8 May 95 05:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: filtering, once and for all Date: 8 May 1995 12:30:35 GMT Message-Id: <3ol2tb$ktm@news.ysu.edu> References: <3okdi0$g0c@news.primenet.com> <3ohff0$klg@news.primenet.com> Ideally, I'd just like to see listserv mail amid real email show up >like this: > > outdoor-l (size) new campsites > outdoor-l (size) trail bikes > biotech (size) a breakthrough > law-net (size) tort reform > law-net (size) RE: tort reform > Jessica Brody (size) I need $$, Pop > archeaology-l (size) scrolls translation In this case you want Pine to display your index not by the From: field, but rather by the Sender: field (wherein the LISTSERV name can be found). Doesn't appear to be an option to select this, although you can select how messages should be saved -- whether by the list name, or by the author: the former corresponds to the by-sender rule, and the latter to by-from. I agree that it would be a desirable feature for one to select whether the Sender: or the From: field is displayed in the index, and maybe the Pine team will add this to 3.92, to give you the behavior shown above. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) In a blindfolded taste test, 4 of 5 newsreaders could not tell the difference between Spam and Velveeta... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 07:21:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28839; Mon, 8 May 95 07:21:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02153; Mon, 8 May 95 07:07:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02147; Mon, 8 May 95 07:07:13 -0700 Received: by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA10061; Mon, 8 May 1995 10:07:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 10:07:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: slake@gmu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Addressbook "BUG" Detected Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-912889482-799442225=:14447" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-912889482-799442225=:14447 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: One of our users gets "bug detected in pine" when trying to edit a certain field (Fullname) in his address book. I asked him to send (e-mail) me a copy of of the addressbook. I received the following addressbook (via mail) from him. I saved the addressbook as a "new addressbook", added the new addressbook filename to my addressbook list, started pine, went into Addressbook and tried to change the Fullname of the 2nd entry. I too get the "BUG detected" in pine. ---- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Trying to change second address fullname from "Marquina, Cindy" to > "chipmunk". Here's my addressbook. mandy Fontenot,Amanda afonteno@osf1.gmu.edu chipmunk Marquina, Cindy cmarquin@osf1.gmu.edu TYGRR TYGRR asmithh@osf1.gmu.edu katawaba Vaughan, Katawaba kvaughan@osf1.gmu.edu --0-912889482-799442225=:14447-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 07:52:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29674; Mon, 8 May 95 07:52:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02532; Mon, 8 May 95 07:38:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02526; Mon, 8 May 95 07:38:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0s8TsH-00038SC; Mon, 8 May 95 07:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vergil Mandzuk Subject: Uuencoded file Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:30:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have received mail with uuencoded binary data. Is it possible to transfer this mail from PC-Pine 3.91 to my local terminal? File integrity is required so that I may uudecode it. Thanks, Verg ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vergil Mandzuk vergil@freenet.mb.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 08:27:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01028; Mon, 8 May 95 08:27:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10408; Mon, 8 May 95 08:16:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from donald.uoregon.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10402; Mon, 8 May 95 08:16:37 -0700 Received: from OREGON.UOREGON.EDU by OREGON.UOREGON.EDU (PMDF V4.3-9 #7713) id <01HQ953XNJC08ZDXPD@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>; Mon, 08 May 1995 08:16:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 08 May 1995 08:16:34 -0700 (PDT) From: THOMPSON@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU Subject: Sent mail function To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Envelope-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Dear sirs and madames, I have tried to get an answer to this question from the University of Oregon computer center but they tell me "we don't know anything about PC-Pine; we only know about Pine, sorry." My problem is this. About two or three months ago my Pine program began automatically saving sent mail. I don't like this--it fills up my mailbox. I have discovered on my own that there is a way to turn this off (put the message default-fcc="" in the configuration file), but I cannot find out how to modify this file. Would be be so kind as to tell me what I must do to turn off this function? I am using Pine 3.89. Please help me. Thanks --Augustine Thompson, O.P. Asst. Prof. of Medieval Christianity Department of Religious Studies University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1294 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon May 8 08:28:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01067; Mon, 8 May 95 08:28:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03124; Mon, 8 May 95 08:15:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03116; Mon, 8 May 95 08:15:04 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [166.17.5.51]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with ESMTP id LAA04783; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:47 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.12/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA11891; Mon, 8 May 1995 11:14:46 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08296; Mon, 8 May 95 11:13:21 EDT Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 11:13:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Vergil Mandzuk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Uuencoded file In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915846483-1552489726-799946000=:8219" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915846483-1552489726-799946000=:8219 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 May 1995, Vergil Mandzuk wrote: > > I have received mail with uuencoded binary data. Is it possible > to transfer this mail from PC-Pine 3.91 to my local terminal? File > integrity is required so that I may uudecode it. > Yes. The uuencoded file is ASCII, so you can Export the message and uudecode the file on your Unix host or with the DOS version of uudecode, which I have attached to this message. 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