From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 00:38:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08648; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:38:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01020; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:33:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01014; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:33:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruya5-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 00:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shuford@scs.unr.edu (Brian Shuford) Subject: Need signature help? Date: 31 Mar 1995 20:25:00 GMT Message-Id: <3lhoes$omo@silver.scs.unr.edu> I am trying to find out how to make a nice signature file. Is this done by just using a editor(Pico) and painstaking making one or is thier a better way to make a nice one, like with a picture or image of something. I see alot of nice sig. with things i could never make. If so could someone please tell me how or is there a FAQ on this Thanks, Shuford@pogonip.scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 01:29:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10034; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:29:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13635; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:24:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13629; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:24:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruzJU-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: HELP: Posts from Pine 3.91 only showing up locally! Date: 31 Mar 1995 21:07:57 GMT Message-Id: <3lhqvd$ql4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: dmg@postoffice.ptd.net wrote: [snipsnipsnip] : I have compared the headers of the messages posted with the two : messages. The only main differences that I see are in the message-id : line and the fact that the pine posted message has an X-Sender line. : The message-id line in the pine posted msg starts with pine and a : version number. Also, the bit referring to my email is truncated : from dmg@ns1.ptd.net to dmg@ns1. The message id in the manually : posted message looks more like my real email address. The X-Sender : line in the pine posted message truncates my email address to : dmg@ns1 ... I suspect that the messages are being posted, but the auto replies are not being sent to you because of your munged from line. One workaround is to set 'user-domain' to postoffice.ptd.net in the pine config. --Dave -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 01:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10692; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02088; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:43:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02082; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:43:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ruzdm-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 01:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: WHERE to find listserv/listproc? Date: 31 Mar 1995 21:14:52 GMT Message-Id: <3lhrcc$ql4@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <3lagpe$frp@nntp.crl.com> John Dulaney (jdulaney@crl.com) wrote: : I've serached and searched! : All help - MANY THANKS! : John listproc 6.0c can be found at cs-ftp.bu.edu in /pub/listserv --dave -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 02:32:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11766; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:32:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14441; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:28:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14435; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:28:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rv0LR-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 02:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:26:05 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3l2itn$atr@hustle.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > This simple rule will suffice to avoid the problem being discussed: > If a message has no Path: header, post no News follow-ups to it. I hate to tell you. If I copy a mail message to a newsgroup they both contain a To and Newsgroups but the mail will only have Received lines but no Path and you will still want to follow up to all recipients. I also strip the longish Path when I save articles from within my news reader that I want to followup to with my mail composer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 12:34:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26982; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:34:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10449; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:24:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10443; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:24:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rv9e1-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 12:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Billy Bob Subject: Pine switched versions on me. Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 20:06:19 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an unusal Question. I opened up pine, (on a sun machine) after having used it for about ohhh, ever since they first came out with Pine 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new verstion of Pine, 3.89 At first I though someone played a joke adn broke into my accout, so I exited but stared it up again aobut 1 min later. I got teh same message but it said Pine 3.91. Can anyone come up with a resonable explanation for this? John RealityIsAnIllusionOfTheMind.ButReally,HowCanThatBeRealWhenTheRealityOfItCame FromSomeone'sMind.GettingReallyDeep,TheRealnessOfRealityIsReallyJustAReality ThatManyHaveNotFaced.AndInManyCasesTheyLooseTouchWithReality.SoReally,WhereDoes RealityBegin. (jgraham@herbie.unl.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 13:47:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28499; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:47:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22967; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:34:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22961; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvAjT-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 13:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Message-Id: <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 15:42:27 GMT In article <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> jlethen@pomona.edu (Jan Lethen: EdServ Intern x1885) writes: >here's what I want to do. I want to have Pine automatically forward all my >mail to a different account, a different system, a different address. How do I >do this? I'm not sure that the command would be specific to VMS Pine, it may >be the same for all ... I am answering in the context of Yehavi's VMS port of PINE. If you are asking the question in a PMDF context, you will have to get the correct answer from someone else. PINE is a mail client, it does not process incoming mail until you execute it. On VAX/VMS systems, incoming mail is handled by the VMS MAIL system. If you want your incoming mail forwarded automatically, you have to set the VMS MAIL routines to do it for you. PINE cannot do this, as it does not see the incoming mail until you log on and execute PINE! >From the VMS system prompt, issue the MAIL command, and at the MAIL> prompt, issue a SET FORWARD command. You will need to know the correct format for mail addresses on your VMS MAIL system. On mine it would be SMTP%"someuser@some.domain.edu" for an Internet recipient. Hope this helps. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 14:43:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00115; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:43:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12124; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12118; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvBnm-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:42:37 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had > been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > course, and I'd like to be able to easily tell procmail to throw such > messages away. RFC 1036 already defines that the "Newsgroups" line says where the message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 14:44:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00136; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:44:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23749; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23743; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:39:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvBo5-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 14:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 10:44:13 +0200 Message-Id: References: <3jdj0h$pgk@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> <3jj01t$lue@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> <794865010.8894.0@nifty.andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Chris, > it violates RFC 1036: The use of the "Newsgroups" header for > different purposes in mail and news effectively violates the > sentence I've marked with "*". I also note that this states that > USENET is a set of _extensions_ to RFC-822. You've proven it. I cited this in the request I sent to my news gurus to correct our trn MAILHEADER configuration so we use In-Reply-To instead of the wrong Newsgroups in private emails. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:19:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07828; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:19:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27954; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27948; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvH1L-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 ?? Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 12:56:00 GMT Lars Diel (chriss@geo.ruhr.de) wrote: : Hello! Hello again, : system. When I type in build --help then there are many systems, but I do : not found Linux. And the readme file does not exists in the /doc. : But when I type build lnx then Pico build hisself. But it comes a error : for Pine. Sorry when I can not perfect explain, I am new at Linux. :) What error ? I build pine 3.91 three days ago with gcc-264-050395 and everything went well. lnx should be the right parameter for build. Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:21:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07916; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:21:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16512; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16506; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:15:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvH1q-00038DC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: user-domain doesn't work when it's a subset of hostname? Message-Id: References: <3ldaeh$t38@ddi2.digital.net> Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 13:00:23 GMT Howard Goldstein (hgoldste@bbs.mpcs.com) wrote: : This is strange! My hostname is penny.n2wx.ampr.org, but I have : n2wx.ampr.org CNAMEd to it and wish to use the shorter version on : my outgoing email. : For some reason 3.91 ignores my user-domain setting and it also disregards : the use-only-domain-setting when I tried that. : 3.91 happily uses a user-domain parameter that differs from my hostname. I have a similar problem. I want to set the message-id to my domain name but i don't know how. The From Header is alright. I haven't found any possibility to change this behaviour. If i have some time left i will search in the source code. Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 20:54:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08613; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16959; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:50:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16953; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:50:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvHWp-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 20:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlethen@pomona.edu (Jan Lethen: EdServ Intern x1885) Subject: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Date: Sat, 01 Apr 1995 00:27:42 GMT Message-Id: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> Hi everyone, I've looked through the faq and the user guide and couldn't find the answer. I played with fcc settings in the pine.pinerc file. All to no avail ... here's what I want to do. I want to have Pine automatically forward all my mail to a different account, a different system, a different address. How do I do this? I'm not sure that the command would be specific to VMS Pine, it may be the same for all ... Any help much appreciated. Thanks! Jan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 1 22:38:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00505; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:38:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29655; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:35:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29649; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:35:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvJAK-00038CC; Sat, 1 Apr 95 22:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noe@io.org (Noe Zamel) Subject: Mail, News and Folders? Message-Id: Date: 27 Mar 95 09:30:44 GMT Unfortunately, I now have 5 internet accounts and I'm trying to consolodate all my mail on one account. I have one account with POP and IMAP servers so I can forward all my mail to this account and retreive it with a SLIP POP3 client at home and with PINE at the university. However, when I set my inbox to in pine it prompts me for a username and password. I was hoping there is some way I can program PINE to enter my username and password automatically so I don't have to type them every time I check my mail. I also have a similar problem with mail. The account I generally work from at the university doesn't have an NNTP server. I have another account that does have this but if I set up PINE for that NNTP server I am denied access. Is there some way to get pine to enter in a username and password for an NNTP server? Finally, someone told me that you can set up PINE to automatically file new messages from a specific address to a specific folder (i.e. you can automatically save newslist messages to their own folders). Is this true, and if so, how do you do it? Thanks for any help you can give me, Ricardo Zamel University of Toronto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 01:44:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04855; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20752; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:41:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20746; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:41:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvM6x-00038WC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 01:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cdr@u.washington.edu (2277 Ramirez) Subject: How to create/maintain LARGE address lists? Date: 1 Apr 1995 21:11:19 GMT Message-Id: <3lkfhn$dmk@nntp3.u.washington.edu> Hello All. I'm looking for a way to create and maintain (delete & add names, etc.) a list of over 1000 e-mail addresses. I don't have root privileges--is there some way I can do this? Any help would be immensely appreciated. TIA. SCT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 06:37:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10671; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:37:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23707; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:32:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23701; Sun, 2 Apr 95 06:32:34 -0700 Received: by athena.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id JAA00613; Sun, 2 Apr 1995 09:27:38 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1970 08:55:36 -500 (EST) From: Peter Schroeck To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Setting date/time Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII April 2, 9:30 a.m. Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? Mine read Feb. 1980 (see date of this message). Thanks for any help. Peter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 15:09:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21706; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:09:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11139; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11133; Sun, 2 Apr 95 15:01:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvXg4-00038qC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rashid@haven.ios.com (Rashid Karimov.) Subject: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 2 Apr 1995 21:05:07 GMT Message-Id: <3ln3i3$ldi@ankh.iia.org> Hi folx , The Q is why ? I have Pine 3.91 on FreeBSD/SunOS 413/Sol 2.4. Frankly I don't care , since I use elm , but thousands of users do :( They love pine :) , and they can't use it from tin to (re)mail the article. Sure there are workarounds - like first saving the article to the file, or setenv MAIL elm - but they want it to work in normal way. And .. this is Unix for Gods sake ! The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... I help this article will cause a laugh at U of Wash., since it was fixed already ? :)) And what's the official site for pine ? I tried to reach one mentioned at ftp.uu.net as be a primary , but wasn't able to resolve the name : ftp.cac.washington.edu: Host name lookup failure I would appr. pers. E-mail as well :) -- ==== SY RK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 16:20:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23127; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:20:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00821; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:11:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00815; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:11:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvYmq-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Wachspress Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 16:06:03 -0500 References: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> In-Reply-To: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Mar 1995, Lew Newby Jr. wrote: > How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it > in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? In pine 3.91, I added a global addressbook from the 'S'etup 'C'onfig menu. BUT if you want to modify the addressbook from pine after creating it then you need to implement it as a shared addressbook rather than a global addressbook. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 17:20:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24551; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:20:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12620; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12614; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:01:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvZWM-00038DC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shields@tembel.org (Michael Shields) Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 1 Apr 1995 22:07:46 -0000 Message-Id: <3lkiri$kbh@yage.tembel.org> References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> In article , Roman Czyborra wrote: [I wrote:] > > Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had > > been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > > course, and I'd like to be able to easily tell procmail to throw such > > messages away. > > RFC 1036 already defines that the "Newsgroups" line says where the > message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append > the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by > having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. I don't want to read them in mail. I want to read them in news. If you want me to reply in mail, mail it. If you want me to reply in news, post it. Don't do both. I ca'n't tell procmail to discard all mail with a Newsgroups: header because Pnews uses it differently. -- Shields. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 18:06:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25583; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:06:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02233; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:01:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02227; Sun, 2 Apr 95 18:01:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvaTM-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 17:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: szoltek@osf1.gmu.edu (S. M. Zoltek) Subject: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 2 Apr 1995 06:25:06 GMT Message-Id: <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am running Pine under Linux (1.2.2 POSIX). When I try to spell check a message, I get the ispell help screen. This is the exact message that appears if I type spell or ispell at the system prompt. This help screen appears on my screen but the actual message can be accessed by typing ^L. If anyone has had this problem and solved it, please let me know what to do. -- szoltek@gmu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 19:31:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27590; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:31:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14561; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:26:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14555; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:26:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvbq1-00038FC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 19:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allan@bart.IS.NET (Allan Chong) Subject: Bug with Pine, Sol2.3, and NFS Date: 3 Apr 1995 02:16:44 GMT Message-Id: <3lnlqc$4pv@news1.is.net> We're trying to run pine over an NFS mounted mail spool. It locks up and won't read the inbox. It seems that there is some problem with locking over NFS. The FAQ and the archive don't seem to have any solutions. Anyone else out there encounter this? allan allan@is.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:14:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01652; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16770; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16764; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveFA-00038HC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: pine startup Date: 3 Apr 1995 03:34:58 GMT Message-Id: <3lnqd2$ae4@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: Joseph H Greenwald (jgreen@ctron.com) wrote: : How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? : I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 >From main menu, go into config screen (press S and then C). Find an option named "initial-keystroke-list", press A to add value to it. It will execute those keystroke as if you type it on start up. In your case, add just an 'i' (without quote). Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:15:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01689; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:15:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05555; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05549; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveFE-00038KC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 3 Apr 1995 03:39:55 GMT Message-Id: <3lnqmb$aeb@pandora.sdsu.edu> References: <3ln3i3$ldi@ankh.iia.org> Input/output redirect won't work--clearly stated in PINE documentation... It should, though. : The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected : to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... : And what's the official site for pine ? I tried to reach one : mentioned at ftp.uu.net as be a primary , but wasn't able to : resolve the name : : ftp.cac.washington.edu: Host name lookup failure Try using IP address: 140.142.4.6 Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:16:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01726; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:16:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05547; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05541; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:03:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveD4-00038DC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 21:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Adams Subject: How do I unlock my INBOX Date: Sat, 1 Apr 1995 22:16:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using popclient to download my mail from my internet provider to my Linux machine. The problem is that Pine (3.91) thinks my INBOX is locked any time I get mail. The only thing I have found in the docs is that the INBOX of one Pine session gets locked if another Pine session is invoked. I am not doing this. Does anyone know what Pine uses to determine if a mailbox is locked, so I can unlock it? I have looked in my lock directories and there is nothing there. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 22:16:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01759; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:16:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16868; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:08:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16862; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:08:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rveKW-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph H Greenwald Subject: pine startup Date: Fri, 31 Mar 1995 11:23:33 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Joseph H. Greenwald E-mail: jgreen@ctron.com Cabletron Systems, Inc. Voice: (603) 337-7352 Engineering - Durham Fax: (603) 337-7370 P.O. Box 5005 Rochester, NH 03866-5005 ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:13:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03088; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:13:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06504; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:08:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06498; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:08:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfIO-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 1 Apr 1995 21:07:27 GMT Message-Id: <3lkfaf$bg1@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> References: <3k2srv$7t3@yage.tembel.org> In article , Roman Czyborra wrote: >> Personally, I wish there were a standard header that meant a message had >> been both mailed and posted, because some people do this as a matter of > >RFC 1036 already defines RFC 1036 doesn't apply to mail. >message was posted to. I would tell procmail to automatically append >the Message-IDs of those mails to my killfile if I was stressed by >having to read the followups to my postings a second time in news. You don't get it. The statement dealt with dropping them from mail, not from news. You see, some people think that recreational discussions should take place in a recreational forum like news, and mail should be for more important things. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:41:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03685; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:41:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18214; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18208; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfm0-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Mail file compression Date: 2 Apr 1995 02:30:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ll28a$k2v@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Are there any plans on making Pine be able to read gziped mail files? Or has any accomplished this with current versions of Pine? -- Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 2 23:55:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03918; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:55:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07073; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:48:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07067; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:48:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvfvB-00038CC; Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevenk@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Steven A Kaldeck) Subject: Re: pine startup Date: 2 Apr 1995 23:52:42 GMT Message-Id: <3lndca$6tn@bigboote.WPI.EDU> References: In article , Joseph H Greenwald wrote: > > >How do I make pine startup by opening my INBOX? >I'm on an SGI running pine 3.91 > It's very simple -- just use the -i option when you start pine. > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >Joseph H. Greenwald E-mail: jgreen@ctron.com >Cabletron Systems, Inc. Voice: (603) 337-7352 >Engineering - Durham Fax: (603) 337-7370 >P.O. Box 5005 >Rochester, NH 03866-5005 >------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- Steven Kaldeck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 01:49:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07082; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:49:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19967; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:34:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19961; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:34:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvhVM-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ftilley@indirect.com (Felix E. Tilley Jr.) Subject: Re: TEST Message-Id: Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 17:40:55 GMT References: <3lhnn4$ob5@silver.scs.unr.edu> Brian Shuford (shuford@scs.unr.edu) wrote: : This is just a test. Thank You! : -- : KJHKJHKJHKLJNI*(Y_*Y$RG?$G!{(*Y!@#$TO"U$%@})*YH : )*IY$%R#!@)*YH#!$%O)HG!#@$%RO*I)G!H#$%R*O)*H!#@$%**) : !#@$R)I*YH$#!R{)"I*Y!$%R#+++ATH : 8y34r88y43r58y345[8yy1453t0[8y24t508y1453t : [0893u4[089y13t08yuhgqlkjadkdkfdkf'q409148-400202-2-2-----oe OK. Thank you too. Felix From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 04:24:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11235; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10844; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10838; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvk4g-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 04:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Pine Assuming Mailed Replies are News Articles - a solution Date: 2 Apr 1995 01:40:45 GMT Message-Id: <3lkvat$sqn@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3l2itn$atr@hustle.rahul.net> In Roman Czyborra writes: >If I copy a mail message to a newsgroup they both >contain a To and Newsgroups but the mail will only have Received lines >but no Path and you will still want to follow up to all recipients. Let's clarify: If you are prone to accidentally post public responses to private email, then the rule If a message has no Path: header, post no News follow-ups to it will prevent such errors. If you are not having any such problems, and you are always sure about when it's appropriate to post a Usenet response to private email, then you and your software can safely ignore this rule. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 06:34:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14881; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:34:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12593; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12587; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:14 -0700 Received: from CAMPBELL-EMH4.ARMY.MIL by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16769; Mon, 3 Apr 95 06:22:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 08:30:06 -0500 (CDT) From: "CW2 James E. Melby" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: FAQ Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send Pine FAQ. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 11:16:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28252; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:16:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01572; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01566; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:20 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28414; Mon, 3 Apr 95 11:04:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 10:13:01 -0400 Message-Id: <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> X-Sender: melbirt@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca (Marc Elbirt) Subject: VAX/VMS Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 11:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Innosoft Customer Service , Yehavi Bourvine Resent-Message-Id: Is there a version of Pine for VAX/VMS? \\/// (o o) ----------------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------------------- Marc Elbirt | Every person, all the events of your life melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca | are there because you have drawn them there. au694@torfree.net | What you choose to do with them is up to you. -- Richard Bach From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 13:54:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05391; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:54:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05410; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:40:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05404; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:40:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvsqa-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@chinook.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Re: addressbook problem Date: 3 Apr 1995 16:15:06 GMT Message-Id: <3lp6ua$kdt@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net> In article <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net>, Briarpatch wrote: >I use pine through a provider on Unix, and have this problem: When I am >drafting a message and am prompted for the recipient's address, I strike >^T to retrive that address from my addressbook, and the retrived address >must be edited to remove the preceeding user name and surrounding '<' and >'>' signs. My addressbook might be faulty. Can someone here offer me any >suggestions for correcting this problem as I want the address I retrieve >from my address book under pine to be only the Internet address? Just to make sure I understand: For some weird reason you don't like To: Mark Rafn but would rather just have To: dagon@halcyon.com The only way I can think to accomplish this is to leave Fullname blank in your addressbook. Pine doesn't allow this when adding an address, but you can edit it to be blank. Even then, it still uses angle brackets around the address, but if you go up to the address and then immediately down again they go away. Do you have some weird mail transport that doesn't handle the standard name
or do you just not like it? TTFN Mark Rafn dagon@halcyon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 15:24:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10328; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:24:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25986; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:11:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25980; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:11:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvuIP-00038DC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 15:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VAX/VMS Message-Id: <17375146D3S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:14:21 GMT In article <9504031413.AA60278@hopper.acs.ryerson.ca> melbirt@acs.ryerson.ca (Marc Elbirt) writes: >Is there a version of Pine for VAX/VMS? Two, at least. I'm running one of them on a vax/vms cluster: a free port of 3.91 by Yehavi Bourvine at HUJI. Read what I wrote about it: http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 17:02:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15543; Mon, 3 Apr 95 17:02:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09960; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:52:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09954; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:52:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvvqW-00038KC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 16:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knepperm@cuug.ab.ca (Kneppers Marc) Subject: Invalid mail folder Message-Id: Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 21:26:11 GMT Hi, I have Pine 3.89 running on a SVR4 UNix Box (MIPS). It's been running great for a few months now but suddenly on the weekend we've run into a snag. WHen opening the INBOX I get the error message "[INBOX] is not a folder". The format has not changed from last week to this week so I don't see what has gone wrong. If I change the date in the very first line of the INBOX to be March instead of April -- all of a sudden Pine works again (reads the INBOX). Another weird thing is that if I send mail to someone, the mail gets appended to the first mail message (that has a non-april date). So, I get 1 mail file that contains more than 1 mail message. ANy thoughts? (I am a little worried as this is occuring suprisingly close to April Fool's day). Thanks, Marc Kneppers knepperm@cuug.ab.ca (or kneppersm@acs.ucalgary.ca) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 18:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19567; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:46:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01047; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:35:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01041; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:35:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvxUv-00038FC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 18:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Re: Incoming Mail Folders Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:47:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3lf31t$aad@noc.near.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3lf31t$aad@noc.near.net> On 30 Mar 1995, Kevin McElearney wrote: > Why when I create a new incoming mail folder called something like > Mail/fwall.mbox does it also creates another folder called fwall.mbox. > I cannot delete this unless I touch ~/fwall.mbox and then delete > it. > > Then... when I quit and restart Pine there it is again 8^} Terry Gray pointed me in the right direction. There was a bug in my .pinerc file which was not being handled by the config screen. I removed the folders out of the .pinerc by hand. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 19:42:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24235; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13118; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:35:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13107; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:35:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvyRV-00038FC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin McElearney Subject: Can pine handle MH folders? Date: Sun, 2 Apr 1995 22:51:35 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The subject says it all. I looked through the code and could not find references to this. We have a number of mailing lists which are exploded into MH folders (one file per message). I wrote a short script to cat them all together but this is kludgy. Kevin McElearney (KM108) _________________________________________________________________________ BBN Planet Corporation Phone: +1 617 873-4684 New England Region Engineering Fax: +1 617 873-5620 150 Cambridge Park Drive, 20/342 http://www.bbnplanet.com/ Cambridge, MA 02140 mailto:kmcelear@bbnplanet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 20:29:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25940; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:29:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03071; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:26:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03065; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:26:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rvzDW-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: XV ERROR Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 14:17:12 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using the mailcap file that came with the pine distribution. When trying to view a .BMP as an attachment through xv, I get the following error: " [VIEWER Result: hd: Not found] " Any ideas? When I save the file to disk and view it through xv, I can see the image just fine. Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 22:40:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29420; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:40:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15856; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:36:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15847; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:36:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw1El-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 22:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9207924@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (K.H. Sonnenberg) Subject: Filter incoming mail Date: 3 Apr 1995 13:36:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3lpbn4$mrs@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Does anybody know how I would go about filtering my incoming mail into multiple folder? It mentions a bit in .PINERC but I can't figure our how to get it working. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kevin S. -- ______________Kevin Sonnenberg u9207924@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca_______________ "Uh...had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here...now...thank you. How are you?" *wince* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 23:16:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00785; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:16:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05554; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:11:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05548; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:11:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw1n4-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwhite@infi.net (John L. White) Subject: Looking for a SMTP daemon to use with PC PINE Date: 3 Apr 1995 23:22:05 GMT Message-Id: <3lpvut$1kb@lucy.infi.net> I am currently running Windows NT 3.5 on a Pentium 90 machine. This machine is connected full time to the internet via a PPP connection. PC Pine seems to run just fine on the NT machine, but I have been unable to find a working SMTP daemon which will handle the job of "sniffing" out the incoming mail and converting it to a format that Pine likes. I have found a SMTP Daemon and confirmed that all of the routing is being preformed correctly. This Deamon simply stores the incoming message "lock, stock and barrel" in a text file. I need to find one that will use all of structures (files, formats, etc) which Pine expects. I have been "flailing" with this problem for several weeks and would greatly appreciate any help in solving it. I really like the Pine system and would like to continue to use it on my PC. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 3 23:48:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01702; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:48:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16904; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:41:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16898; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:41:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw2Fn-00038CC; Mon, 3 Apr 95 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccpsm@mucc.mahidol.ac.th (Prem Sumetpong - CC) Subject: Message-ID Date: 4 Apr 1995 05:00:54 GMT Message-Id: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> I would like to know is it the MUA (Pine) or sendmail that creates the message-id. I am getting (xxxxx@host) rather than (xxxxx@host.domain) and want to track how to solve this problem. I get different results if my /etc/hosts has host IP host host.domain and host IP host.domain host the former gives a Message-ID the latter gives a Message-ID Thanx Prem =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Prem Sumetpong Tel (Off) : (662) 247-0333 Mahidol University Computing Center (Fax) : (662) 246-7308 Faculty of Science, Mahidol University email : ccpsm@mahidol.ac.th Rama 6 Rd, Bangkok 10400 , Thailand. postmaster@mahidol.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 00:37:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02763; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:37:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06357; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:31:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06350; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:31:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rw34d-00038CC; Tue, 4 Apr 95 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcneely@dfw.net (Briarpatch) Subject: addressbook problem Date: 2 Apr 1995 21:50:39 GMT Message-Id: <3ln67g$14f@fnord.dfw.net> I use pine through a provider on Unix, and have this problem: When I am drafting a message and am prompted for the recipient's address, I strike ^T to retrive that address from my addressbook, and the retrived address must be edited to remove the preceeding user name and surrounding '<' and '>' signs. My addressbook might be faulty. Can someone here offer me any suggestions for correcting this problem as I want the address I retrieve from my address book under pine to be only the Internet address? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 06:44:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13126; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:44:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22669; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22663; Tue, 4 Apr 95 06:30:50 -0700 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA56370; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:30:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:30:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "R. Russell Neuswanger" To: pine-info Subject: Two questions (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two questions. Is there a way to print parts of the addressbook? I want to break up a group, limiting one part to catalogers, and putting all the others (with some additional people) into another. I can print messages by sending them to my LaMail and printing from there, but I don't know what to do with address lists. Also, not completely unrelated: last time I tried to send to two groups, which overlapped (something I do routinely in poor old CA-email), I got such a hash of error messages that I had to cancel and start over. I may take the trouble to devise disjoint groups in this instance, but I sure hope I don't have to all the time. PS: I had to forward this to my pine account from LaMail, which failed (via NR/2) to post it. I've tried (obviously not correctly) to correct the formatting ... R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life Balto-Fennic, Germanic, Romance AcqBibSuppProj (ABSP) rneu@rneu.loc.gov Library of Congress or (better) rrne@loc.gov Washington, DC 20540-4120 202.707.8747 (shared line) No teratobibliotic entity avows *my* emanations. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 11:06:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25415; Tue, 4 Apr 95 11:06:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14150; Tue, 4 Apr 95 09:41:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nic.cerf.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14144; Tue, 4 Apr 95 09:41:15 -0700 Received: from mrcury.liocs.com (liocs.com [134.24.6.153]) by nic.cerf.net (8.6.10/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA15430 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 09:40:59 -0700 Received: by mrcury.liocs.com (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA02258; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:39:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 11:39:49 -0900 (PDT) From: Dave Siembieda To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attachments fail using PC-pine X-Sender: dave@mrcury.liocs.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I attempt to send attachments greater than 32k they fail. No error message is returned. My configuration is PC's running PC-PINE to an IMAP server on an Ultrix machine. The Ultrix machine has no problem sending large files so the error appears to be between the PC and IMAP. How can I turn on debug to diagnosis the problem? Has anyone else seen this problem? =============================================================================== Dave Siembieda | The opinions expressed are my own! Manager of Software Engineering | LIOCS Corp | 246 E. Janata Blvd | Lombard, IL 60148 | dave@liocs.com | =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 13:15:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02434; Tue, 4 Apr 95 13:15:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18216; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:52:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax.cs.hscsyr.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18210; Tue, 4 Apr 95 12:52:47 -0700 Received: from VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU by VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-12 #3529) id <01HOY2SA7IR48WXPWL@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 15:50:42 EST Date: Tue, 04 Apr 1995 15:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: BINGHAMT@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU Subject: Troubles Compiling VMS Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HOY2SA9XKI8WXPWL@VAX.CS.HSCSYR.EDU> X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" X-Vms-Cc: BINGHAMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello all. I recently got VMS Pine 3.91B4 from HUJI and tried to build it on my VAX 4000-400 running VMS 5.5-2 using DECC 4.0. I encountered the errors below. Has anyone out there in the VMS part of this list encountered these problems and found a fix? Thanks for any info. V1$@vmsbuild multinet [...snip...] typedef unsigned long int time_t; ................................^ %CC-E-NOLINKAGE, In this declaration, time_t has no linkage and has a prior declaration in this scope at 33:MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS]TYPES.H;3: . At line number 57 in SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE]TIME.H;2. struct tm { ^ %CC-E-REDEFSTRUCT, In this declaration, the structure "tm" is being redeclared. At line number 57 in MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS] TIME.H;3. typedef long int clock_t; ..................^ %CC-E-NOLINKAGE, In this declaration, clock_t has no linkage and has a prior declaration in this scope at 53:SYS$COMMON:[DECC$LIB.INCLUDE]TIME.H;2: . At line number 73 in MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET.INCLUDE.SYS] TIME.H;3. [...snip...] } %VCG-I-NOBJECT, No object file produced. At line number 415 in USER1:[BINGHAMT.PINE.PINE3_91.C- CLIENT]TCP _VMS.C;3. %VCG-I-SUMMARY, Completed with 3 error(s), 9 warning(s), and 18 informational messages. At line number 415 in USER1:[BINGHAMT.PINE.PINE3_91.C- CLIENT]TCP _VMS.C;3. V1$ Tim Tim Bingham SUNY Health Science Center binghamt@vax.cs.hscsyr.edu Computer Services Dept. phone (315) 464-5426 750 E. Adams St. ____ __o fax (315) 464-4081 Syracuse, NY 13210 ____ \ <; __________________________________________________________________(_)/_(_)_____ http://kellogg.cs.hscsyr.edu/computer_services/staff/bingham_info.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 4 14:44:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10775; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:44:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03956; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:25:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.Xerox.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03950; Tue, 4 Apr 95 14:25:50 -0700 Received: from owl.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.75]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14751(3)>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:56 PDT Received: by owl.parc.xerox.com id <15365>; Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:48 -0700 From: Mark Shirley To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to get Pine to display long lines wrapped? Cc: shirley@parc.xerox.com, saraswat@parc.xerox.com, bobrow@parc.xerox.com, walters@pc2.pc.maricopa.edu Message-Id: <95Apr4.141348pdt.15365@owl.parc.xerox.com> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 14:13:43 PDT (Sorry if this has been asked a million times before ... I couldn't find the answer in the FAQ.) Is there a way to get Pine to display long lines wrapped over several lines the way Emacs can? In Gnu Emacs, for instance, the variable truncate-lines set to t causes the display algorithm to truncate long lines the way pine/pico does. Setting it to nil causes the display algorithm to wrap long lines. This has nothing to do with the actual contents of the buffer (e.g., I think I understand about the -w flag, but it's not the answer here.) The reason we'd like this is that we're trying to use pine or pico as a code editor in a MOO client. Lines that extend off of the screen make reading the code difficult, and automatically inserting CR's when the user types close to the edge of the screen is not very convenient either. Any help with pine/pico or pointers to similar editors with this flexibility in their display algorithms would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Mark Shirley Xerox PARC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 00:52:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06411; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29682; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:43:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29676; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:43:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwPgt-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 00:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) Subject: Re: Question: How to set a Forwarding Address - Pine for VMS Message-Id: <1995Apr2.232332.15688@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <0098E30C.CFC075DF@pomona.edu> <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Date: Sun, 2 Apr 95 23:23:32 GMT In <17373EAFCS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) writes: >You will need to know the correct format for mail addresses on your >VMS MAIL system. On mine it would be SMTP%"someuser@some.domain.edu" >for an Internet recipient. I'm not sure how everyone else's systems are configured, but on our VAXcluster, you need to do some quoting to set forwarding correctly. For example, the command I would use to forward my mail to my lenin account is: set forward "in%""tom@lenin.cc.rochester.edu""" This is under VMS 5.5 running PMDF with the free version of Pine. (The PMDF version is not installed on my system.) Your mileage may vary. Tom -- |Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | |tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Nobody speaks for WRUR. | |Cutting educational funding costs EVERYONE in the long run. Save SUNY!| |Support non-commercial broadcasting and a non-commercial Internet | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 03:20:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10977; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:20:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27681; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:13:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27673; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:13:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwS14-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: PCPINE & W32SOLE V1.25 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:19:57 GMT We have installed w32sOLE (for ncsa's mosaic), now pine is twitchy. On gateway 2000, it will either lock up the whole system or get you back to a dos prompt. On every other civilized computer, we get the following error: [CLOSED] IMAP connection broken ANYBODY ELSE EVER SEE THIS? MORE IMPORTANTLY, HAS ANYBODY ELSE COME UP WITH A FIX? thanks sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 03:45:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11573; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01864; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:40:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01858; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:40:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwSSc-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 03:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheana Lynn Kuiper Subject: Address Book prob.--too many users Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 21:04:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an address group set up which includes about 140 names. When i send a message to the whole distribution list, i ALWAYS get a message back from the Administrator and the text is simply "too many users". And then it is followed by the message I sent. I have included myself in this distribution list, and I always get my message FROM me. Does anyone know if there is a problem here? Are some people NOT getting my messages? Assistance would be appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:31:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13392; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:31:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28763; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:21:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28757; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:21:20 -0700 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com (fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA206005; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 05:16:44 -0600 Received: by Fozzie.secapl.com id AA40560 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:22:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:22:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Iannotti To: Stan Mulder Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: news group message arrival method? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It may be that the dates shown are the dates of composition, not arrival. News can easily get out of order that way, since the messages travel through many different routes, some batched, like uucp. On Wed, 29 Mar 1995, Stan Mulder wrote: > > I've got my configuration set to show news group messages in order of > arrival. How is it that when I view a news group I see all ranges of dates > interspersed? For example, I posted a message on lang.comp.c++, when out > of pine and back in to verify that it was posted and could not find my > message at the bottom of the list. I did a search and found it about 60 > messages up. How am I to understand this? > > Thanks. > > -Stan- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stan Mulder -- mulder@eng.usf.edu | > University of South Florida, Lakeland | Acceptance is usually the answer. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:45:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13862; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:45:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29047; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:39:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29041; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:39:44 -0700 Received: from Fozzie.secapl.com (fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id FAA205954; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 05:35:09 -0600 Received: by Fozzie.secapl.com id AA44450 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:40:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 07:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Anthony Iannotti To: Billy Bob Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine switched versions on me. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible that your system manglers were playing with versions for some reason? Or do you have the binary in your home directory? That's exactly the sort of behavior that would ensue if they put an old version back in for a minute to see if it also had a newly discovered bug/feature/interaction with sendmail. On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Billy Bob wrote: > 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new > verstion of Pine, 3.89 > > At first I though someone played a joke adn broke into my accout, so I > exited but stared it up again aobut 1 min later. I got teh same message > but it said Pine 3.91. Can anyone come up with a resonable explanation > for this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 04:49:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14072; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:49:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29006; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29000; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwTPN-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 04:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Filter incoming mail Date: 4 Apr 1995 18:20:43 -0400 Message-Id: <3lsgnr$7ro@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu> References: <3lpbn4$mrs@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> u9207924@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (K.H. Sonnenberg) writes: >Does anybody know how I would go about filtering my incoming mail into >multiple folder? It mentions a bit in .PINERC but I can't figure our how >to get it working. Any help would be appreciated. >Thanks, >Kevin S. There is no mail filtering built into Pine, but it happily handles the results of other mail filter programs. A popular one is "procmail", which can be obtained (according to its documentation) at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz I've been using it quite happily for a few months now. When it "broke" for a few days (actually, our user disk filled, so all it could do was stuff all incoming mail into my mail mail file) I realized just how quickly I'd come to depend on it! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) Internet addresses: pentcheff@acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu WWW link: home page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 05:13:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14931; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:13:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03013; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:04:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03007; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:04:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwTkq-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 05:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chpat@cais.com (Chris Patkowski) Subject: Re: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 3 Apr 1995 21:11:16 GMT Message-Id: <3lpo9k$cr9@news.cais.com> References: <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article <3llg02$ubt@portal.gmu.edu>, szoltek@osf1.gmu.edu says... > > I am running Pine under Linux (1.2.2 POSIX). When I try to spell check a >message, I get the ispell help screen. This is the exact message that >appears if I type spell or ispell at the system prompt. This help screen >appears on my screen but the actual message can be accessed by typing ^L. I am running also Pine under Linux and have exactly the same problem. "Pine Technical Notes" in chapter "Spell Checker" on page 45 says that "Pine also respect the environment variable SPELL. If it set, Pine will use that as a spelling checker". I have tried to set an environment variable in my .bashrc file but it did not work. Perhaps I did not set it right. Please let me know if you solved this problem. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Christopher H. Patkowski chpat@cais.com cpatkows@cap.gwu.edu +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 07:35:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19105; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01541; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from herbie.unl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01535; Wed, 5 Apr 95 07:25:05 -0700 Received: by herbie.unl.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA28370; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:23:47 CDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 09:23:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Billy Bob Subject: Re: Pine switched versions on me. To: Anthony Iannotti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Anthony Iannotti wrote: I have the binary in my home directory. The system managers don't even have pine compiled for all the users. So I still am unsure of where the switch came from. Since the first time I posted it switch back to version 3.89, but now it has stayed at that. So I'm not really sure as to which version I am using. John (billy) > Is it possible that your system manglers were playing with versions for > some reason? Or do you have the binary in your home directory? That's > On Fri, 31 Mar 1995, Billy Bob wrote: > > > 3.91, but this evening when I started pine, it said welcome to a new > > verstion of Pine, 3.89 RealityIsAnIllusionOfTheMind.ButReally,HowCanThatBeRealWhenTheRealityOfItCame FromSomeone'sMind.GettingReallyDeep,TheRealnessOfRealityIsReallyJustAReality ThatManyHaveNotFaced.AndInManyCasesTheyLooseTouchWithReality.SoReally,WhereDoes RealityBegin. (jgraham@herbie.unl.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 09:31:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25036; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:31:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04580; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:24:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04573; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:24:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwXq2-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sab1@st-and.ac.uk (Stuart Andrew Blair) Subject: vacation messages Date: 5 Apr 1995 11:53:53 GMT Message-Id: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send out vacation messages in response to incoming mail when you are away? Stuart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:18:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00980; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09490; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:09:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09484; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:09:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwZVb-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: address block possible? Date: 3 Apr 1995 21:45:26 GMT Message-Id: <3lpq9m$eei@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: <3lo2qc$o16@nkosi.well.com> Wonder Dog (jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us) wrote: : Is it possible to configure Pine where it automatically deletes or : ignores email from a particular person? You should use procmail. It does a very nice job. Supak -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu lailert@mail.sdsu.edu >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:26:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01295; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:26:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07359; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07353; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:20:10 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA12447; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:53 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07453; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:52 +0800 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 11:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: How to print to a postscript printer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 651 Can someone explain how to setup printing from a Solaris 2.3 environment to a postscript printer. We use the command "LW -p |" and the job gets sent to the printer but never comes out. Thanks for your help. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 11:42:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02058; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:42:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10033; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from thurgood.uscourts.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10027; Wed, 5 Apr 95 11:33:22 -0700 Received: from pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov by thurgood.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0rwZtG-0002FqC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 14:33 EDT Received: from dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov by pc4std.ao.uscourts.gov with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0rwYtv-0000FFC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:29 EDT Received: by dgstd.ao.uscourts.gov (Smail3.1.28.1 #11) id m0rwZt7-0008OXC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 14:33 EDT Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 14:33:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "J. Lynn Hilton" To: Stuart Andrew Blair Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vacation messages In-Reply-To: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not so far as I know, but there is a Unix command "vacation" which does. It will forward messages and send back a canned reply; consult your local manpages for implementation. Lynn jlh@ao.uscourts.gov or lhilton@concept.com +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Lynn Hilton | Home where the AViiONs roam | | Concept Automation Services, Inc. | | | AOUSC, One Columbus Circle, N.E. | Voice: 202-273-2413 | | Washington, DC 20544 | FAX: 202-273-2356 | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ On 5 Apr 1995, Stuart Andrew Blair wrote: > > Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send > out vacation messages in response to incoming mail > when you are away? > > Stuart > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:23:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03914; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08718; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:14:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08711; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:14:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwaVp-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rneu@rneu.loc.gov Subject: Re: Pine w/password Date: 3 Apr 1995 20:25:53 GMT Message-Id: <3lplkh$gfn@rs7.loc.gov> References: In , "Brian K. Curley (Master of Time & Space)" writes: >Anyone know how I would check mail via pine on a server that required a >password at logon? > >Brian Curley >bkc@axle.adp.wisc.edu We do that here. Once you're signed onto the machine, simply type pine, and hit enter. Presto, you're in. R.R. Neuswanger, Ph.D., NRA life rneu@rneu.loc.gov or (better) rrne@loc.gov I speak for me. Only. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:24:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03964; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11082; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:19:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11076; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:19:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwaYu-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us (Wonder Dog) Subject: address block possible? Date: 3 Apr 1995 05:58:36 GMT Message-Id: <3lo2qc$o16@nkosi.well.com> Is it possible to configure Pine where it automatically deletes or ignores email from a particular person? -- ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ¿ ³ J.L. Brown ³ E-Mail: jlbrown@well.sf.ca.us ³ ³ M.B., SC ³ WWW: http://www.well.com/www/jlbrown ³ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 12:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05195; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:52:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09575; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:47:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09567; Wed, 5 Apr 95 12:47:06 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA12468; Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:46:33 +0100 Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 20:46:32 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Stuart Andrew Blair Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: vacation messages In-Reply-To: <3lu0ch$mam@calvin.st-and.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Apr 1995, Stuart Andrew Blair wrote: Pin cannot do this but you could either use the vacation program supplied with many different versions of Unix or you can use procmail to do it for you. Procmail also filters incoming email so that you can only answer certain types of email - you do not want to send an automatic reply back to this list for instance ! Stuart > > Is there any way that Pine can be configured to send > out vacation messages in response to incoming mail > when you are away? > > Stuart > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 13:30:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07089; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:30:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10614; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10608; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:20:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwbXk-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Invalid mail folder Date: 5 Apr 1995 01:13:17 GMT Message-Id: <3lsqrd$25c@hustle.rahul.net> References: In Mark Crispin writes: >In >the "From " header line, the date is a fixed format ctime() format >string, and thus the day field is fixed-width (hence requiring a leading >space for single-digit days).... >This is usually caused by a non-standard mail delivery program at the >local site, and generally when this gets called to their attention the >sysadmins at the site fix it pronto. The situation is a little unfortunate here. Although the date in the From_ line is indeed supposed to be a fixed-format ctime() string, almost all mail agents -- including SunOS /usr/ucb/mail, elm, and MH's inc program -- will accept slight variations, and will tolerate the missing leading blank in a single-digit day-of-month field. Thus, if a slightly 'nonstandard' local mail delivery program is operating, pine may end up being the only user agent on the system that cannot parse the mailbox. So, it now becomes a matter of debate as to which was really broken: pine or the delivery agent. From a strict interpretation of de facto standards, it was the delivery agent that was broken. But this may not be a good argument to use when talking to the person who asks, "how come everything else works but pine doesn't?" -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 13:52:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08000; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:52:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13016; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:40:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13010; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:40:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwbpN-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 13:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: loflin@sirius.cc.utexas.edu (Don Loflin) Subject: Re: Ideas for PINE GUI and libraries (q) Date: 5 Apr 1995 15:15:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3lutot$rtr@sirius.cc.utexas.edu> References: > >We presently (about a hundred Macs) use MS Mail clients on the Macs with a >MS Mail server running on a Mac. Microsoft dropped the ball and we haven't >found anyone willing to pick it up (for less than a large sum of money). >We will move to Pine via telnet and just suffer without the local file >access for a while. Mailstrom is a good Pine-like IMAP mail client for the Mac. Its display is quite a bit like Pine's (I suspect C-Client code is in use..) and it supports opening multiple mail folders as well as searching & marking messages based on text in the messages. It's available on ftp://lindy.stanford.edu/pub/treister/mailstrom/ Don Loflin loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:27:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02700; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:27:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02297; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:15:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02291; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:15:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfAm-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bltst2+@pitt.edu (Brian L Tobin) Subject: POP reader on UNIX Date: 5 Apr 1995 17:06:53 GMT Message-Id: <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I have posted this question before, and no one answered. I dunno if that's just a stupid question, or there is no product. What I am looking for is this: - A E-Mail reader that has the ability to log onto our school's POP server, and retreive my mail. You see, I usually use Eudura for Macintosh over PPP to get my mail. But, when I'm in the labs, it's a pain in the butt to get my mail (I have to D/L Eudura, configure it...etc...) In any case, if there is such a program available available for UNIX, could someone please E-Mail with the name? Thanks alot. bltst2+@pitt.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:31:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02816; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:31:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17991; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17985; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:25:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfJs-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Nicolich Subject: Multiple "@"'s in address won't mail correctly Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:22:05 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Can someone help me a problem I have sending mail to an MCI address via PINE? The address is: @gatekeeper.mcimail.com:sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda =id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com (one line) If I type the address in the appropriate field PINE interprets each "@" as a seperate address: To: Name <@mcimail.com, @CSFBG, @OU1=IS, @O=CS_First_Boston, @G=firstname:S=Name@S=Name> What can I do to correct this? Thanks. Jeff nicolich@kristall.uni-frankfurt.d400.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 17:37:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03146; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02567; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02557; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwfQQ-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 17:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: N.M.Queen@birmingham.ac.uk (Nat Queen) Subject: HELP: User-id in Pine Date: 04 Apr 95 09:56:20 BST Message-Id: <955604095620@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> ============================================================================== I want to change my return e-mail address in the "From:" line that is placed in outgoing messages by Pine 3.89 on a unix machine. The problem is that I want to use my "standard" address known to my university's central mail server (as it appears in the header of this post), and not my address on that particular computer. When people reply to this "standard" address, which is expected to remain unchanged, I can have the mail forwarded to any computer(s) of my choice, depending on circumstances. Pine automatically inserts its own domain name and my user-id on that computer into my e-mail address. I can successfully change the domain of the address by setting the variable "user-domain" in my personal configuration file. However, it appears to be impossible to change the variable "user-id". According to the Pine Technical Notes (version 3.91), this can only be done in PC-Pine. How can I replace my default e-mail address in the "From:" line to my preferred address? Any help will be greatly appreciated. **************************************************************************** * Dr. N.M. Queen * Phone: +44 121 414 6590 * * School of Mathematics & Statistics * Fax: +44 121 414 3389 * * University of Birmingham * E-mail: n.m.queen@birmingham.ac.uk * * Birmingham B15 2TT, England * PGP public key available on request * **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 20:36:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09130; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:36:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20536; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20530; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwiHn-00038LC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 20:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill White Subject: Addressbook Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 12:43:31 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. I have a question. In pine version 3.91, when in the addressbook, there is a function called edit. If you invoke this function, one of the fields displayed for editing is the comment field or 'c'. When I put in a comment, it is never displayed, and if I go back and look, it isn't in the comment field either. Is this a bug, have I got something set wrong in the configuration, or what? Can someone explain this? Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 22:26:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11563; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:26:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07173; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:21:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07167; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:21:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwjxF-00038MC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 22:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Can I pass a value "through" or "around" Pine? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:38:31 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I want to call Pine from a script. Pine will call another script as an alternate editor. Can I pass the value of a variable from the first script to the alternate editor without using an environment variable? An environment variable is out of the question. :) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4F1zOBu0383Om6dAQFkLwP/aodNKzJvOTn69zPXc9VVTSvxGV6+mNVo y40embZrSv0ULIhjXkYyBdjd1DvpEaRe8Pzy+QZuU9qpZT5/gYmb5qv2ckIDzFN3 TSxotAW+58s6T9R/hnTAojyynpIJJqQqZE7An+Km47ICIrOIoeBQ0nxNWxSHYqZa PXObgz7sRHQ= =tlq3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 5 23:11:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12750; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:11:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22271; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22265; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwkhz-00038OC; Wed, 5 Apr 95 23:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@cis.ysu.edu (Bob Hogue) Subject: Margins in pico Date: 4 Apr 1995 22:12:03 GMT Message-Id: <3lsg7j$54f@news.ysu.edu> I'm aware that control-J will rejustify a paragraph for me while using the pico editor, but is there a way to change what it uses for the line length when rejustifying? I'd like to make the lines a bit shorter than what pico defaults to. Tnx for any help. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Hogue Computer & Information Sciences Internet: bob@cis.ysu.edu Youngstown State University Phone: 216/742-1775 Youngstown, OH 44555 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 02:15:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17712; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:15:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10340; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:07:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10334; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:07:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwnW6-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 02:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omar@wco.com (Omar Eljumaily) Subject: Re: *Domains & PINE! Date: 4 Apr 1995 21:17:30 GMT Message-Id: <3lsd1a$6uo@news.wco.com> References: <3l7c69$prs@linda.teleport.com> bw (bw@teleport.com) wrote: : Hello! : I'm trying to configure PINE to reflect my domain name in the "From" and : Reply-to" header areas. When I send out email, it reflects my providers : domain, rather than my own. I had the same problem started using a newer version of pine in which you were able to set the domain name in the config menu. Omar From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 04:45:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22131; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:45:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26212; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:37:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26206; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:37:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwpqE-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 04:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martyn@indirect.com (Harris Internet Service Company) Subject: How to Cancel USENET posts Message-Id: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 21:40:46 GMT What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? marty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 05:30:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23757; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:30:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13099; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:22:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13093; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:22:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwqW8-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: 6 Apr 1995 00:43:51 GMT Message-Id: <3lvdg7$1hm@hustle.rahul.net> References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> In Mike Lipscomb writes: >> the former gives a Message-ID >I had the same >problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the >fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts >entry. After some experimentation I found that although pine will use any specified 'user-domain' when forming the reply address, it will still use the local host name for the message-id, and apparently does not check to make sure that the part after the '@' is a fully-qualified domain name. It *could* append the 'user-domain' after the host name if the host name does not contain a dot, but does not do so. The basic problem is that the MTA is not being given an opportunity to do the things it knows most about, such as setting the correct reply address and message-id. The MUA is trying to do the MTA's job. A similar design flaw exists in the MH mail system, though it's not as acute, becaue MH tries to form the reply address but not the message-id. What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. This issue is something to think about, but not worth losing sleep over. -- Rahul Dhesi "please ignore Dhesi" -- Mark Crispin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 05:51:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24226; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:51:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13299; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13293; Thu, 6 Apr 95 05:37:09 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:34:04 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id NAA20631; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:37:00 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:36:59 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Harris Internet Service Company Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes... I've often wondered how best to do this from Pine? Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Harris Internet Service Company wrote: > What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? > > marty > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 08:28:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29180; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:28:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28903; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28897; Thu, 6 Apr 95 08:10:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwt0j-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 07:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robin.goodall@cai.cam.ac.uk (Robin Goodall) Subject: PC-Pine with IBM 4019E Date: 6 Apr 1995 14:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <3m0v72$5sh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I'm trying to get PC-Pine (LWP version) to print messages to an IBM 4019E printer in postscript mode. When you tell pine to print the lights flash on the printer indicating that it's getting the data but then it just resets itself back to normal and doesn't print anything. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. Robin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 09:40:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07908; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:40:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22645; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:24:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orca-e.fhcrc.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22639; Thu, 6 Apr 95 09:24:37 -0700 Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA102371; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:23:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein To: Robin Goodall Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC-Pine with IBM 4019E In-Reply-To: <3m0v72$5sh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a similar problem under OS/2. My take is that the OS/2 telnet program is sending the "print to attached ansi" stuff to the print queue without any consideration of formatting for postscript, and the print manager isn't smart enough (or hasn't been told enough information) to know to ask whether the stuff being queued is postscipt. In other situations under OS/2 the print manager is very smart - like when I drag an icon to a postscript printer is always asks (and does so for other printers as well). I was thinking this was an OS/2 to pine interaction problem, but if you are not using OS/2 then other systemns have the same kind of problem. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On 6 Apr 1995, Robin Goodall wrote: > I'm trying to get PC-Pine (LWP version) to print messages to an > IBM 4019E printer in postscript mode. When you tell pine to print > the lights flash on the printer indicating that it's getting the > data but then it just resets itself back to normal and doesn't > print anything. I was wondering if anyone had any ideas. > > Robin > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 11:59:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15717; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:59:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26166; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:42:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26159; Thu, 6 Apr 95 11:42:43 -0700 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA04464; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:44:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 15:43:59 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Disable KBLock Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello Pine Info -- Is there a way to disable the KBLock (Keyboard Lock) feature of Pine? Also, I'm trying to print to my local printer; I've discovered that MacKermit and MicroPhone for Mac support it. I haven't been able to get Claris Works for Mac or Microsoft Works for Mac to work properly. Does anyone know of any other packages that support local printing? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 13:41:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20787; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:41:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06639; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06633; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwyES-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <3ltovr$5ab@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu (Jean Kent) says: >We have several MACs attached to our local campus network and many people >have complained that Ctrl C doesn't work. I'm on a Mac with NCSA telnet right now, with two simultaneous sessions. With this telnet session I have no problem with the Emacs ^X^C. (SunOS) With the other session, I can't use ^C without a program aborting, and the RETURN in Pine or Emacs acts as a ^J linefeed, and when I resume a ^Z suspended session, the terminal is in a very weird mode. (BSD386) I've learned to use the ESC ESC x sequence in place of the ^x character, so when I forget and hit RETURN in the header, I try to remember to use ESC ESC C to cancel the request for an attachment. It's ugly, but it works, and for it I am grateful, since I've had to use it more often than I care to think. I suspect there's some interaction between the NCSA telnet client and the telnetd on the host, and I know I've seen the solution here before, so I suspect it will be reposted... -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 14:01:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21430; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:01:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28866; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28860; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwyCR-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:33:10 GMT Message-Id: <3lto4m$53a@news.ysu.edu> References: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In a previous article, harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) says: >because apparently Pine simply suspends and waits for the alternate >editor to exit, and it isn't sending NOOP instructions down the line to >keep the IMAP connection active. I've experienced something similar during the time when the IMAP timeout should not occur. I'm not sure how I can definitively repeat the dead stream condition, and perhaps my setup is a bt unusual. I've hacked Pine to recognize the {imap.host/user=name} specification for pre-authenticated login, and to verify that would co-exist with the normal IMAP opening, I set both my local INBOX and a remote folder six timezones away to be accessed with IMAP. What appears to happen is that when I am in the remote folder, doing something like answering mail with an alternate editor or something, when I return to the local INBOX or leave the alternate editor, that local INBOX has become closed. I'm pretty sure I haven't left Pine suspended for the 30 minute IMAP inactivity timeout, but it doesn't always close when I think it might, and it's the *local* folder that's being closed with frequency. I'll have to do more checking to see how I can get this to happen with certainty, for I'm pretty sure the inactivity timer from a suspended Pine should *not* occur, but I'll have to check, and verify the hacks I've made do not interfere with Pine's normal operation. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 14:48:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23664; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:48:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07732; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:34:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07724; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:34:16 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA07762 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 6 Apr 1995 17:34:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 95 17:34:12 EDT From: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs In-Reply-To: Your message of 5 Apr 1995 09:47:39 GMT Message-Id: In Mac NCSA telnet, pull down Session, Setup Keys, and blank out the three boxes, especially the one that makes ^C be Interrupt Process (referring to the Mac!). Save the settings. I can't figure out why anyone would want the defaults; ^C is essential to unix systems. The ^J problem is tough. The return key and even literally control-M end up sending a ^J to the unix host. I've been told in some cases it's an old version of telnetd on the host. We gave up here and hacked pine so ^J is treated like RETURN (^M), and reassigned the functions of ^J to other control keys. Not too awful, although it's little changes all over the place. 3.91 was easier than 3.05. It would be a nice compile option to get the "No-control-j" version. Actually, I can only blame myself for not packaging the changes as patches yet. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 15:13:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25047; Thu, 6 Apr 95 15:13:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00445; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:44:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00439; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:44:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rwzKG-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 14:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IMAP Client list needed Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 14:27:29 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1375167708-797203649=:24189" In-Reply-To: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1375167708-797203649=:24189 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is an IMAP software list available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software I have also attached a copy... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Apr 1995, Bobby R. Whitus wrote: > Date: 6 Apr 1995 16:57:25 GMT > From: Bobby R. Whitus > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: IMAP Client list needed > > I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will > be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free > and shareware clients for all platforms. > > Bobby Whitus > Oak Ridge National Lab > whitusbr@ornl.gov > > --0-1375167708-797203649=:24189 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="imap.software" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: UmV2aXNlZDogOTUuMDMuMTQgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgVC4gR3JheQ0KRmlsZTogIHtmdHAu Y2FjLndhc2hpbmd0b24uZWR1fSAvbWFpbC9pbWFwLnNvZnR3YXJlDQpVcGRh dGVzIHRvOiBncmF5QGNhYy53YXNoaW5ndG9uLmVkdQ0KDQoNCiAgICAgICAg IEludmVudG9yeSBvZiBrbm93biBzb2Z0d2FyZSBzdXBwb3J0aW5nIElNQVAN CiAgICAgICAgICAgIChJbnRlcm5ldCBNZXNzYWdlIEFjY2VzcyBQcm90b2Nv bCkNCg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLQ0KSU1BUCBQ Uk9UT0NPTCBTVEFUVVMNCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0t LS0NCg0KIFJGQyAxNzMwOg0KDQogICAgICAgIFRpdGxlOiAgICAgIElOVEVS 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pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caz@zimnet.hanse.de (Carsten Zimmermann) Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:57:03 +0200 Message-Id: <3m1h2f$1kc@desdemona.zimnet.hanse.de> References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> <3lvdg7$1hm@hustle.rahul.net> Rahul Dhesi (dhesi@rahul.net) wrote: : In Mike Lipscomb writes: : >> the former gives a Message-ID : >I had the same : >problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the : >fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts : >entry. For Linux i had to change the entry in /etc/HOSTNAME to the FQDN to get it work. But it still adds my hostnames to the message ID that isn't known to the net. (I'm just a UUCP Site) : What saves the user is that in almost all cases, syntactically-invalid : message-ids will be accepted by receiving software. I don't believe I : have ever observed email to be bounced or dropped because of an invalid : message-id. The only likely exception is that if a mail-to-News : gateway preserves the message-id, the gatewayed posting will likely be : dropped by inn sites, unless the gateway takes steps to correct the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : syntax in the message-id or generate a new one. Fortunately most such : gateways just replace the old message-id with a new valid one. I don't understand that. Why is it dropped ? Btw inn generates also wrong message-ID's for me. It also adds the Hostname to my domain. So perhaps my messages will be dropped also ? Carsten -- ***************************************************************************** *Carsten * caz@zimnet.hanse.de * "Problem ... -> * *Zimmermann * * Loesung ... " * *Hamburg-Barmbek * zimmermann@physnet.uni-hamburg.de * (Al Bundy) * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 18:53:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04324; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05729; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05723; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx320-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 18:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Subject: Possible addressbook bug, and some other Qs Date: 3 Apr 95 21:45:58 GMT Message-Id: I sent this report to the pine-bugs address, but got back a response that (among other things) suggested I try the pine newsgroup for a faster response, so I am posting it here. I had a problem with an entry in the global address book. I'm not sure it's a bug, but I couldn't find any specific problems. What happened is that I had an entry that had some number of levels of nested aliases/nicknames (i.e. other address book entries). Specifically, there was one entry that had six levels, including the very top and bottom levels, although I'm not sure that's significant. When I composed a message and gave the top level nickname as the To:, it was read in OK, but there was a problem with the format. When I moved down to the next header line, it indicated a problem with the contents of the To: line; the message was something like: "Junk at end of To: line: '> .......'". Looking back at the To: line, it looked like an address had been wrapped/split at an inappropriate place (in the middle of the domain name) and an end-of-line comma inserted there a bit before the address it seemed to be complaining about. The same problem occurred when I tried the next highest level nickname, but things were fine when I moved down another level. The problem also disappeared when I changed the order of the nicknames/names in the second highest level nickname -- the problem occurred when I had the nickname that continued the long chain listed first, but things were OK when I moved a regular name (i.e. a regular username, not a nickname) to the front of the list. Does this make sense? Sorry I had to describe it instead of sending the actual entries, but I'd rather not send those unless absolutely necessary. Besides this problem, I had a few other questions related to addressbook nicknames and how they appear in the To: line. 1. They appear including the "fullname" description of the nickname (the second field of the addressbook entry). Is there a way to set it up so that this does not appear? For such deeply nested nicknames, often the "fullname" isn't really meaningful (it's likely just some arbitrarily chosen grouping name). 2. Sometimes the number of actual addresses in a nickname can be fairly high, and you end up with a very long To: line. Is there a way to set it up so that the addresses are not shown (sort of like a Bcc:, or "address list suppressed" type of thing), or that only the nickname (or its corresponding fullname) is shown? Thanks for your help. -- Milt Epstein Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:17:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05093; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:17:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12773; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12767; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:11:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx3U7-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Cohan Subject: Running pine with newsgroup loaded Date: Mon, 3 Apr 1995 22:47:47 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are looking for a way to start pine with a newsgroup loaded similar to starting it with a folder opened using the -f option. We would like to start pine from a menu option (ie pine comp.mail.pine) and have the newsgroup loaded and the index screen displayed. Anyone have any ideas? Jim ****************************************************************************** Jim Cohan jcohan@freenet.mb.ca Information Provider Administrator Home: (204) 254-1471 Blue Sky Free-Net of Manitoba Work: (204) 474-3607 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:33:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05605; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:33:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13007; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:28:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13001; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:52 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA19985; Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:27:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 22:27:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Reply-To: dion@faxon.ca To: Pine Messages Subject: Running two pines Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are trying to set up Pine for some external users, and would like to do the following: 1) Use separate pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed files for the external users and internal users. 2) Direct Pine to create and use the .pinerc in the user's mail directory, as opposed to their home directory, due to a shared home directory. 3) Name the mail directory Mail.${LOGNAME} to differentiate between each users' mail directories. I have managed to get 2 & 3 to work for internal user with command line options, but getting 1 to work properly (the pine.conf.fixed is a must, don't want them changing certain values) is a bugger. Any help would be appreciated. Please direct answers to my email address, not just the list as I am no longer on the list. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant dion@faxon.ca email | | Faxon Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | *----------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 19:34:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05652; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:34:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06387; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06381; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:27:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx3iG-00038MC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krman@peinet.pe.ca (kevin MacRae) Subject: Re: POP reader on UNIX Date: 6 Apr 1995 19:11:44 GMT Message-Id: <3m1edg$rgi@bud.peinet.pe.ca> References: <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> In article <3luind$kab@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, bltst2+@pitt.edu (Brian L Tobin) writes: |> I have posted this question before, and no one answered. I dunno if that's just |> a stupid question, or there is no product. |> |> What I am looking for is this: |> - A E-Mail reader that has the ability to log onto our school's POP server, and |> retreive my mail. |> |> You see, I usually use Eudura for Macintosh over PPP to get my mail. But, when |> I'm in the labs, it's a pain in the butt to get my mail (I have to D/L Eudura, |> configure it...etc...) |> |> In any case, if there is such a program available available for UNIX, could |> someone please E-Mail with the name? |> |> Thanks alot. |> |> bltst2+@pitt.edu I hate poting other peoples scripts without giving credit, but I do not know where this came from. (comp.unix.unixware newgroup). This is a perl script than gets mail from a pop server. -------- Cut Here --------- #!/opt/bin/perl # # get_popmail -- connects to the remote popmail server. It then transfers # all mail from the popmail server to the local rmail, deleting them in the # process, if successful. # # get_popmail # # (For example: get_popmail popmail.mcs.com jack jack mypasswd) ($remote_system, $local_user, $remote_user, $remote_pw) = @ARGV; if ($#ARGV != 3) { die "usage: get_popmail \n"; } $debug = 0; # Set to !=0 to see full text sent and received. $AF_INET = 2; $SOCK_STREAM = 2; sub open_socket { local($Socket, $Port, $OtherHost) = @_; local($hostname, $name, $aliases, $type, $len); local($this, $thisadder, $that, $thatadder); local($sockaddr) = 'S n a4 x8'; chop($hostname = 'hostname'); ($name,$aliases,$Port) = getservbyname($Port,'tcp') unless $Port =~ /^\d+$/;; ($name,$aliases,$type,$len,$thisaddr) = gethostbyname($hostname); ($name,$aliases,$type,$len,$thataddr) = gethostbyname($OtherHost); $this = pack($sockaddr, $AF_INET, 0, $thisaddr); $that = pack($sockaddr, $AF_INET, $Port, $thataddr); # Give the socket an address. bind($Socket, $this) || die $!; # Call up the server. connect($Socket,$that) || die $!; # Set socket to be command buffered. select($Socket); $| = 1; select (STDOUT); } sub send { local ($Socket, $Who, $Var); $Socket = shift; $Who = shift; print $Who, " <- " if $debug; while ($Var = shift) { print $Socket $Var; print $Var if $debug; } } sub expect { local($Socket, $Who, $Expect) = @_; local($line, $first_field); $line=<$Socket>; print $Who, " -> ", $line if $debug; ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n]/,$line); if ($Expect ne $first_field) { print "ERROR from ", $Who, ", expected ", $Expect, ", got ", $first_field, "\n"; } } sub login_remote { &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "USER ", $remote_user, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "PASS ", $remote_pw, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } sub logout_remote { &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "QUIT\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } sub message_count { &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "STAT\n"); $line=; print "REM-> ", $line if $debug; ($first_field, $message_count) = split(/[ \t\n]/,$line); if ($first_field ne "+OK") { print "ERROR from REM, expected +OK, got ", $first_field, "\n"; } print "Message count - ", $message_count, "\n" if $debug; $message_count; } # Get $proto. ($name, $aliases, $proto) = getprotobyname('tcp'); # Make and open the remote socket filehandle. socket(RemoteSMTP_Socket, $AF_INET, $SOCK_STREAM, $proto) || die $!; &open_socket(RemoteSMTP_Socket, 110, $remote_system); &login_remote; $count = message_count; print "Getting ", $count, " message(s)\n" if $debug; for ($i = 1; $i<=$count; $i++) { print "Copying message ", $i, "\n" if $debug; open(MAILOUT, "|rmail ".$local_user); &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "RETR ", $i, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); $line=; # Throw one line away. $line=; # Throw one line away. ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n\r]/,$line); while ($first_field ne ".") { $line =~ s/\r//; print "REM -> ", $line if $debug; print MAILOUT $line; $line=; # Throw one line away. ($first_field) = split(/[ \t\n\r]/,$line); } close MAILOUT; die "rmail failed" if $?; # rmail gave bad status code &send (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "DELE ", $i, "\n"); &expect (RemoteSMTP_Socket, "REM", "+OK"); } &logout_remote; ----- Cut Here ----- I hope this helps. I have been using it for 2 months. Get perl script. ******************************************************************************* * Kevin MacRae Phone (902) 566-3198 * * Owner/Operator FAX (902) 566-3423 * * K & R Management Internet krman@peinet.pe.ca * ******************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 22:30:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10083; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:30:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15019; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:20:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15013; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:20:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx6Rq-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 22:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.6.10 problem Date: 7 Apr 1995 01:44:28 GMT Message-Id: <3m25ds$6qm@news.ysu.edu> References: <3m1s07$bt8@news.nd.edu> In a previous article, jsquyres@kanga.cse.nd.edu (Jeff Squyres) says: >I am running SunOS 4.1.3 on a Sparc 10 with sendmail 8.6.10. [...] > >kanga sendmail[1635]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from username@localhost: newline in string > >I realize that newlines in strings were security problems before sendmail >8.6.10 but has now been apparently fixed, and this is why sendmail >is giving me this message, but why does the latest version of pine still >submit messages incorrectly this way? Is there a patch? This is a bug in BSD Sendmail v8.6.10. You should upgrade to sendmail 8.6.12, which no longer has this problem. Pine is not submitting the messages incorrectly. -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:29:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11471; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:29:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09611; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:15:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09605; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:15:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7Im-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu (Milt Epstein) Subject: Some misc configuration questions Date: 6 Apr 95 22:48:40 GMT Message-Id: As the subject says, I have a few questions about configuring pine. 1. I noticed a behavior where when I replied to a message where I was among the original recipients, I am removed from the resulting recipients list (all on the To: line). Is there any way to set this up so I am not removed? (Mailers based on Berkeley mail have the "metoo" variable that controls this.) 2. Is there any way to get pine to show the line count of a message instead of the byte count in the index? 3. Is there any way to globally disable using pine for news? I tried setting nntp-server to "" in the fixed global config file. This seems to work, as no newsgroups as shown in the folder list. But when you enter the folder list and when you move down to the newsgroup listing, it beeps and displays the message "No such host as". This doesn't really cause any problems, but I was wondering whether there was a more definitive way to do it. 4. There were some things about the feature-list that I couldn't understand. First, a number of features were listed without their having been specified in the global or my personal config file (these are: enable-aggregate-command-set, enable-bounce-cmd, enable-flag-cmd, enable-jump-shortcut, and enable-suspend). In addition, I noticed the feature old-growth in my .pinerc (originally created automatically by pine), yet I couldn't find it mentioned in any of the documentation. I think these two may be related, since when I deleted old-growth from my .pinerc, those features were no longer set. However, upon subsequently exiting pine, old-growth magically reappeared, and the next time I ran pine those features were back again. Perhaps also related, I deleted signature-at-bottom from my .pinerc (since it is in our global config file), but it also magically reappeared after running pine. 5. Any reason why the standard-printer is shown as lpr even though it's set to lp in both the fixed and regular global config files? Thanks for any help/comments. -- Milt Epstein Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:39:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11716; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:39:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15769; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15763; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:27:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7SJ-00038LC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:27:53 -0600 References: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 5 Apr 1995, David James Makil wrote: => => HI, => => Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may => find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i => received via the Pine mailer? Someone mentioned a site to me but => unfortunately after getting the *.tar file, I learned that installation of => the program required the use of various shell scripts and binaries. Is there => any other program out there that decodes mime messages? Perhaps on the DOS => platform? Or is installing the scripts, etc necessary for this task? => => Thanks, David => You may want mpack and munpack. unix1.andrew.cmu.edu:/pub/mpack/README.ftp Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compabibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The mac port can also decode messages in split-binhex format. In short, mpack is the MIME equivalent of uudecode/binhex. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga, and archimedes systems. This MIME implementation is intended to be as simple and portable as possible. For a slightly more sophisticated MIME implementation, see the program MetaMail, available via anonymous FTP to thumper.bellcore.com, in directory pub/nsb Files: mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z Source to all ports of version 1.5 mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-src.tar.Z mpack15d.zip PC DOS binaries for version 1.5 mpack15d.asc PGP signature for mpack15d.zip mpack15o.zip OS/2 binaries for version 1.5 mpack15o.asc PGP signature for mpack15o.zip mpack-1.5-mac.hqx Mac binary for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-mac.hqx.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-mac.hqx mpack-1.5-amiga.lha Amiga binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-amiga.lha.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-amiga.lha mpack-1.5-arc.arc Archimedes binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-arc.arc.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-arc.arc mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz Linux binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-linux.tar.gz mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz NetBSD binaries for version 1.5 mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz.asc PGP signature for mpack-1.5-netbsd.tgz The Mac version of mpack does both packing and unpacking. All other distributions include both mpack and munpack. Questions about files in this directory should be sent to mpack-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4PsEuBu0383Om6dAQEOBwP9G+NCGw9Y4Dw+nZIbTynUwWHC23RbuF3w wrGe58zFiOV6qWonxO/NzV7m8EAEig3oX09/cSABEpURKwz/dqyWoTtMvvXWukBk cbE6yqGvebdzbyMbQgb0E+Odb6IXNWK6Vf+MmJ5e7DY2bwyMbeUp7KfGTLLD84CW MS+PZ0R4ruo= =vvxX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 6 23:46:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11877; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:46:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09861; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:35:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09855; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:35:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx7c9-00038OC; Thu, 6 Apr 95 23:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Tom Guptill) Subject: Re: Pine for VMS; Help with libraries and configuration Message-Id: <1995Apr7.045316.28406@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <1995Apr6.092051@cchs.su.edu.au> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:53:16 GMT In <1995Apr6.092051@cchs.su.edu.au> brennan@cchs.su.edu.au (Luke Brennan) writes: > PINE will compile for the various TCP/IP stacks available on > OpenVMS, and a seemless way is to use the portable interface > via NETLIB and the SOCKETSHR extensions. This means that if > you change TCP/IP provider or platform, no need to recompile! The free version of Pine/VMS will also work acceptably with no tcp/ip support at all. I'm running v3.89, and it's perfectly happy to use VMS mail to handle mail transport with only a couple of mchanges to the configuration files. It even automatically turns user@host.domain into in%"user@host.domain". Some of the other features available in the PMDF version (like PMDF alias/list management) aren't available in the free version, but as nobody else on the entire cluster (1000+ accounts?) has asked for Pine, I can't see any reason to ask the systems group to install it. I'm happy with v3.89, I don't use IMAP, and I can use my PMDF lists & aliases by just using user+alias@host.domain addressing. Works for me. :) Tom -- -- |Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | |tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU Nobody speaks for WRUR. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 00:22:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12638; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16251; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:12:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16245; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:12:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx88J-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 00:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Lipscomb Subject: Re: Message-ID Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 13:47:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3lqjq6$g56@mars.mahidol.ac.th> On 4 Apr 1995, Prem Sumetpong - CC wrote: > I get different results if my /etc/hosts has > > host IP host host.domain > > and > > host IP host.domain host > > > the former gives a Message-ID > the latter gives a Message-ID You definitely want the latter case in /etc/hosts. I had the same problem until I read the PINE technical docs! always have the fully-qualified domain name first and then any aliases for the /etc/hosts entry. -Mike- ****************************************************************************** Michael Lipscomb Computing and Telecommunications, Room 789 voice: 901 448 5042 University of Tennessee, Memphis fax: 901 448 8199 877 Madison internet: mlipscom@utds01.utmem.edu Memphis TN 38163 ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 02:24:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15880; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:24:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11991; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:05:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11985; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:05:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rx9ve-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 02:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: z_pattersohc@titan.sfasu.edu (Doughboy) Subject: Doing research paper on Pine..Help Me Message-Id: <1995Apr3.230555@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 3 Apr 95 23:05:55 CST I'm doing a reasearch paper on the Pine editor, please send me your complaints and/or praise for the editor. In order for my project to be a success many opinions would be necessary. Thanks in advance z_pattersohc@titan.sfasu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 04:03:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18610; Fri, 7 Apr 95 04:03:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13194; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:41:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13188; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:41:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxBRv-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 03:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Bazyl Subject: NT port? Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 00:43:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just curious if anyone is working on/finished an NT port of Pine. Not necessarily looking for a GUI version console would be fine so long as don't need to keep the 16bit subsystem running.... Steven Bazyl Bazyl@cleo.bc.edu "Skip the formalities, please. I've left you a load of work and you don't have all eternity to fiddle with it. Certainly, 'Thou art God' -- but who isn't?" "Stranger in a Strange Land" Robert A. Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 06:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23525; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:29:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20612; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:16:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20606; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:16:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxDs8-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brody@primenet.com (Bob Brody) Subject: return receipt Date: 7 Apr 1995 12:24:08 GMT Message-Id: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> I very much need to get return receipts or some manner of confirmation of email received. I can't find reference to it for Pine so doubt if it's supported or might it be undocumented? Please advise. If there is *any* mailer you know of that offers return receipt, I'll use it for at least certain critical emails. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 06:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24169; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:53:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20880; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dekalb.vf.mmc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20874; Fri, 7 Apr 95 06:44:11 -0700 Received: from franklin.vf.mmc.com (franklin.VF.GE.COM [3.21.24.83]) by dekalb.vf.mmc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with ESMTP id JAA10734; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:41:58 -0400 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM [3.12.38.33]) by franklin.vf.mmc.com (8.6.11/8.6.10) with SMTP id JAA13545; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:41:57 -0400 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/MMC Sun server N-3.4) id AA08283; Fri, 7 Apr 95 09:40:29 EDT Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 09:40:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Don Sugarman To: Bob Brody Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: return receipt In-Reply-To: <3m3at8$l06@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Apr 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > I very much need to get return receipts or some manner of confirmation > of email received. I can't find reference to it for Pine so doubt if > it's supported or might it be undocumented? Please advise. If there > is *any* mailer you know of that offers return receipt, I'll use it for > at least certain critical emails. > There was a long discussion a few months ago about return receipts. Pine does not provide return receipts. WordPerfect Office Main and cc:Mail will send receipts when a message is opened for reading. (That doesn't ensure that the recipient read it .) Nothing is more effective that asking the recipient at the end of the message to send a message of reply. That usually means he actually read \ it. Be advised that many people do not like the automatic receipt feature. They can clog up mailboxes and are especially annoying on lists. Hope this helps. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 08:51:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28346; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:51:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18009; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:36:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18003; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:36:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxG1P-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 08:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 4 Apr 1995 20:58:21 GMT Message-Id: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> If you spawn an alternate editor (vi, emacs, ispell, whatever) by ^_ in the editing window and you obtain INBOX via IMAP, you can only keep your alternate editor open for as long as timeout takes on the IMAP server, because apparently Pine simply suspends and waits for the alternate editor to exit, and it isn't sending NOOP instructions down the line to keep the IMAP connection active. Any chance the code can be modified so that, when an alternate editor is spawned, the IMAP client will go into the background and continue to send NOOPs at the appropriate times? Since I use Pico for short compositions, but emacs when I need to write something long and involved, this gets me every time! -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 10:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04985; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:55:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21214; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:47:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21203; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:47:54 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA04052; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:32 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA09097; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:32 +0800 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:47:31 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Problem running with SLIP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 809 Anyone had any luck getting Windows pc-pine and SLIP working with Trumpet winsock? Pine is finding the host but failing to connect to the IMAP server. It continues trying and after the first minute, and each 15 secs further, asks if you want to continue trying. I can telnet to the IMAP host from the winsock machine so it's alive and well. Thanks for any help, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 11:14:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06473; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:14:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21517; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:59:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21511; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:59:27 -0700 Received: from andre.usc.edu (lgore@andre.usc.edu [128.125.11.118]) by usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA17707 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:26 -0700 Received: (lgore@localhost) by andre.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA02334; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:25 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Laurence (Bob) Gore" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send FAQ list! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 11:38:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08186; Fri, 7 Apr 95 11:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21457; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:58:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alnitak.usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21445; Fri, 7 Apr 95 10:58:33 -0700 Received: from almaak.usc.edu (lgore@almaak.usc.edu [128.125.253.135]) by alnitak.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id KAA20242 for ; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:32 -0700 Received: (lgore@localhost) by almaak.usc.edu (8.6.10/8.6.7+ucs) id KAA00289; Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:32 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:58:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Laurence (Bob) Gore" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send FAQ list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 12:34:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10689; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:34:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27756; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27750; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:46 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15977; Fri, 7 Apr 95 12:25:44 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 12:25:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Milt Epstein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Possible addressbook bug, and some other Qs In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Apr 1995, Milt Epstein wrote: > I had a problem with an entry in the global address book. I'm not > sure it's a bug, but I couldn't find any specific problems. > > What happened is that I had an entry that had some number of levels of > nested aliases/nicknames (i.e. other address book entries). > Specifically, there was one entry that had six levels, including the > very top and bottom levels, although I'm not sure that's significant. > > When I composed a message and gave the top level nickname as the To:, > it was read in OK, but there was a problem with the format. When I > moved down to the next header line, it indicated a problem with the > contents of the To: line; the message was something like: "Junk at end > of To: line: '> .......'". Looking back at the To: line, it looked > like an address had been wrapped/split at an inappropriate place (in > the middle of the domain name) and an end-of-line comma inserted there > a bit before the address it seemed to be complaining about. Sounds like it might be a bug, all right. I'm not able to figure out what the problem might be without a specific example to work with. If you'd like to send me the addressbook and tell me which nicknames work and which don't, I'd be happy to look at it. Or, if you can cook up a fake addressbook with this problem, then you wouldn't have to send the real one. > 1. They appear including the "fullname" description of the nickname > (the second field of the addressbook entry). Is there a way to set it > up so that this does not appear? For such deeply nested nicknames, > often the "fullname" isn't really meaningful (it's likely just some > arbitrarily chosen grouping name). Not in 3.91. In 3.92 you will be able to have a blank fullname field for any entry and then it will do what you want, I think. > 2. Sometimes the number of actual addresses in a nickname can be > fairly high, and you end up with a very long To: line. Is there a way > to set it up so that the addresses are not shown (sort of like a Bcc:, > or "address list suppressed" type of thing), or that only the nickname > (or its corresponding fullname) is shown? You can use the Bcc line for that. When you're in the composer, type ^R while your cursor is in the headers and then you will see the Bcc line. -- > Milt Epstein > Visiting Research Programmer National Animal Poison Control Center (NAPCC) > epstein@napcc-hp.cvm.uiuc.edu College of Veterinary Medicine (CVM) > (or mepstein@uiuc.edu) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) Thanks, Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:43:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14359; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25275; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25265; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKX1-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Clark Subject: pine news & .newsrc Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 17:56:09 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm writing some documentation on using pine as a newsreader & would like some help. For the new user (on my system at least) a .newsrc file is not automatically created. If a user goes into pine for the first time and wants to read the news he/she cannot until the .newsrc file has been created in their UNIX directory. I've gotten around this in classes I've taught by having them start up nn first. nn creates the .newsrc, then I have them quit nn and start up pine to read the news. My question-Is there any way to create a .newsrc in a user's directory solely from the pine interface? Thanks in advance ----------- David Clark \/\/\/\/\/\ There are only two or three human stories, and Boulder Valley Schools \ they go on repeating themselves as fiercely as clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ as if they had never happened http://bvsd.k12.co.us/~clarkd/home.htm \ before. http://www.mcp.com/~dclark/student.html \ -Willa Cather- ----------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:54:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14835; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:54:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29148; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29142; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKcd-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Comment field in addressbooks Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 12:52:03 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3l5u0q$fsi@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3l5u0q$fsi@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Such a feature is coming in the next release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On 27 Mar 1995, Klaus Wacker wrote: > Date: 27 Mar 1995 08:46:18 GMT > From: Klaus Wacker > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Comment field in addressbooks > > Is there any reasonable way to look at the comment field of > addressbooks? The only way I found so far was to try to edit it. It > would be nice To have something like a 'wide' view of addressbooks > which shows also the fcc and comment fields. > > -- > > | / | | | | | wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE > | / | _ __ | | | _ _ | _ _ Klaus Wacker, Exp.Physik V > |/\ | _\ | | (_ | | | _\ / |_) /_) | Uni Dortmund > | \_|_(_|_|_|___) |_|_|_(_|_\__| \_/\___| D-44221 Dortmund > +49 (231) 755 3587 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL3clfd/IU4uTDdHNAQHFSAIAuE99M77f+95FGXQqeUfbfhwiw3upLtX9 Ibqr4aa5x5eq3QaEJq+gRHRHbLY5Ya/32G7HRfog9j9H4r2oxgrCqg== =pnmY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 13:54:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14862; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29024; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29018; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:22:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKUv-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "George L. Westlund" Subject: Problem with PINE seeing messages as concatinated. Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 15:43:41 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have a user who has reported (and I have verified it) that several messages are getting concatinated together when she view her INBOX. I've looked at the file and it looks OK and both from and mail see more messages than pine does (I've even read it into mail and saved it which is our usual fix). I edited the file and added additional returns before the messages in question and it starts Working (I used ".,$s/^From /^V^MFrom /" in vi to edit it). Has anyone else seen this? We are running pine 3.91 on AIX 3.2.5. It has had the problem with the originally distrubted binary as well as one we've compiled with -O2. George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu Academic Computing Services || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 14:03:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15190; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:03:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25704; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:37:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25698; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:37:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxKkS-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 13:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Invalid mail folder Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 16:16:16 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hello. By any chance, is the date that works something like "Mar 31" and the date that loses something like "Apr 3" (as opposed to "Apr 3")? In the "From " header line, the date is a fixed format ctime() format string, and thus the day field is fixed-width (hence requiring a leading space for single-digit days). This is usually caused by a non-standard mail delivery program at the local site, and generally when this gets called to their attention the sysadmins at the site fix it pronto. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" (est.) On Mon, 3 Apr 1995, Kneppers Marc wrote: > Hi, > > I have Pine 3.89 running on a SVR4 UNix Box (MIPS). It's been running > great for a few months now but suddenly on the weekend we've run into a snag. > > WHen opening the INBOX I get the error message "[INBOX] is not a folder". > > The format has not changed from last week to this week so I don't see > what has gone wrong. > > If I change the date in the very first line of the INBOX to be March instead > of April -- all of a sudden Pine works again (reads the INBOX). > > Another weird thing is that if I send mail to someone, the mail gets > appended to the first mail message (that has a non-april date). So, I get > 1 mail file that contains more than 1 mail message. > > ANy thoughts? > (I am a little worried as this is occuring suprisingly close to April Fool's > day). > > Thanks, > Marc Kneppers > knepperm@cuug.ab.ca > (or kneppersm@acs.ucalgary.ca) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 14:28:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16404; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:28:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00372; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:12:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00366; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:12:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxLFg-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan Peterson Subject: Configuring for Mime attachment Date: 6 Apr 1995 00:05:52 GMT Message-Id: <3lvb90$70g@data.interserv.net> How can I configure Pine to view the following attachment. Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="OFFCPLA3.DOC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="OFFCPLA3.DOC" When I try to view it, I get the following message: Don't now how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM Assuming I can decode the attachment, are there any UNIX tools, possibly X-based, that will allow me to view the .DOC file, which is a Microsoft Word document. Looking for a free option here, something Public Domain. Along the same lines, are there any UNIX tools which would allow me to view other DOS or Windows files. ie. Excel, WordPerfect, etc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Peterson Internet: pete@spry.com Senior UNIX Engineer Phone: (206) 447-0300 SPRY, Inc, Seattle, WA FAX: (206) 447-9008 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 15:52:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20637; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:52:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28620; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28614; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxMo1-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 15:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Nelson Subject: Re: Ideas for PINE GUI and libraries (q) Date: 27 Mar 1995 21:18:08 GMT Message-Id: <3l7a2g$pa0@netnet2.netnet.net> References: <199503212016.AA03317@fubar.wang.com> forrie@wang.com (Forrest Aldrich) wrote: > I am interested in any work people are doing to develop an MS-Windows GUI > for PINE. I understand someone is working on an X-WINDOWS version called > Spruce (the author is on vacation right now). Windows pine is already available. I've been using it for a few months now. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 16:59:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28922; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:59:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03894; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:53:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03888; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:53:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxNpR-00038OC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afcasta@millenium.texas.net (Al Castanoli) Subject: Re: Unsubscribe to all newsgroups Date: 26 Mar 1995 17:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <3l48kt$1g6@empire.texas.net> References: <3kccl2$n8h@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Mike Brudenell (pmb1@tmphost.york.ac.uk) wrote: : [...] : Some newsreaders automatically check for new newsgroups as they start : up. Pine does not do that at present (it may one day; anyone care to : comment?). : [...] Since you asked, I think it's an awful idea....whenever I'm testing out a new newsreader hack, it hangs up on "subscribe newsgroup alt.fan.foo" or some such (for we all know what a pain it is to run an ls -lt against the index of newsgroup files) until I go in and answer no to the question with my old newsreader (tin). -- Al Castanoli | afcasta@texas.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 18:18:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02267; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:18:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07410; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:08:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07404; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:08:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxOy6-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) Subject: Better spell checker? Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:57:39 -0700 Message-Id: <3m4jhj$nkq@crl.crl.com> While the spell checker for pine is useful in that it tells you that the word is misspelled, I need it to correct my poor spelling too. Is there any good spell checkers out there that will work with pine that will do this? Thanks for any and all help! Jeff -- Look at ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/jeffj/www/home.html for information on the New Party, list of worker owned businesses, other progressive causes and DX QSL information. jeffj@crl.com AB6MB KPFA 94.1 Bay Area Progressive Radio! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:05:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03394; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:05:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06136; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:58:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06130; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:58:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxPla-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 18:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark N Schummer Subject: Drummers!Greg Bissonette Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:30:30 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thursday, April 13, former drummer for David Lee Roth, and even Maynard Ferguson, Greg Bissonette, will be on the University Campus, performing with the University of Montana Percussion Ensemble and the "Islanders" Steel Drum Band at 4pm. This event is in collaboration with the Percussive Arts Society's "Day of Percussion." The day costs $5 ($3 for PAS members). It should be great fun! Another special guest will be there as well. Hope to see you there!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:45:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04281; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:45:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08726; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08720; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQLy-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:46:56 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have several MACs attached to our local campus network and many people have complained that Ctrl C doesn't work. Thus, they can't cancel messages, etc. I was told that changing the .profile file would correct the problem. I substituted ^? for ^H. It didn't work. We are running Pine on an HP9000, unix platform. Help! ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:45:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04303; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:45:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06693; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06687; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:38:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQM4-00038MC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Printing from a laser printer Date: Tue, 4 Apr 1995 20:50:08 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently bought a laser printer, but I can no longer print out my email messages. I have been using the terminal program in Windows to dial into my account. I've talked with others on my campus who also have trouble printing with laser printers. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 19:59:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04583; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:59:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08937; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:53:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08925; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:53:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxQbJ-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 11:44:17 -0600 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: => On 5 Apr 1995, David James Makil wrote: => => => => => HI, => => => => Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may => => find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i => => You may want mpack and munpack. => => unix1.andrew.cmu.edu:/pub/mpack/README.ftp => I have been informed that I should be giving ftp.andrew.cmu.edu as the location of mpack, not unix1.andrew.cmu.edu. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.0, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL4UlaOBu0383Om6dAQES6QP/QvwxNgQF3B3Xr+iuts99tv7WDnI+Te2R FWLmVhYiSmquQnWCba9fKMrHX6YeQ55vN2ve8q1uwNPjtqVcRjpIdHDc2zNydC/y T768hhFOP5BZ131sWf7GcFV+PCd7dI0WZxn9z2OlnqylsleeQWf4lOVWZvIIF6dM ngWOUUbeqAo= =hIqt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 20:41:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05380; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:41:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07359; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:38:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07353; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:38:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxRKL-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 20:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phibn231@moe.cc.emory.edu (Paul Joseph Welty) Subject: Phantom incoming folders Date: 7 Apr 1995 14:33:08 GMT Message-Id: <3m3if4$pbj@moe.cc.emory.edu> Somehow I created 2 incoming mail folders whose names *do* appear in the incoming mail folders list. However, when I try to delete them (which I would really like to do), PINE tells me that they do not exist. Where are they? How do I nix them? Thanks in advance. Paul Welty From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 21:22:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06149; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09993; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09987; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxRsp-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 21:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mnavarro@xmission.xmission.com (arakpacha) Subject: south america Date: 7 Apr 1995 20:08:33 GMT Message-Id: <3m4641$55r@news.xmission.com> I have this adrees (rhernand@socompa.cecun.ucn.cl)and always I receive the MAILSERV with unknown host. some help please Manuel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 22:50:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08329; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:50:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08764; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:43:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08758; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:43:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxTHR-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: External Editor Date: 7 Apr 1995 14:15:12 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1995Mar29.164730.15153@ultb.isc.rit.edu> css0958@osfmail.isc.rit.edu (SWANSON) writes: >Quick question: I just started using Pine. It has it's limitations >but it is rather useful. I'm curious what limitations you're thinking about, especially in 3.90 or 3.91? Please post them. >My question is, how do I link in >an external editor. I'd much rather us vi than the default >editor. I chnaged the value under the setup/config >to 'vi' but i wont start it up when I compose or reply to >a message. Any ideas? Help! Use either the enable-alternate-editor-implicitly or enable-alternate-editor-cmd commands. For more info see the help screens, which are accessed with `?', in the configuration setup screen. -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:54:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09970; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:54:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09446; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09440; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:01 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [198.68.17.76]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26863 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:05:54 -0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:05:53 -0800 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Printing To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, I am using Pine 3.89 on my access provider. The provider is running Linux 1.1.59 (POSIX) and I am connecting from a dos box running Qmodem 4.5. I am wondering if there is a way to configure Pine to print my messages on my printer. I have tried all the term emulations that are available to me with no luck. Thanks Kevin Workman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:54:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09992; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:54:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12146; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:49:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12135; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:48:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxUIq-00038LC; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Message-Id: References: <3lcdg0$bon@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Apr 1995 04:46:18 GMT Lew Newby Jr. (lnewby@unm.edu) wrote: : How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it : in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? Here we have a global address book in /usr/local/lib we call it TECH_AMA_ADDRESSES (you can call it anything you like) Also in /usr/local/lib our pine.conf (so everybody see's the same address book) has an entry like: # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book=/usr/local/lib/TECH_AMA_ADDRESSES # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= (you .pinerc file will look the same, but I recomend that you use the pine.conf so that you do not have to edit everybodies .pinerc file) AS FAR AS THE PC VERSION -- I thought I had that working once, but my machine is the one that is experimented on with new software and now it doesn't. As soon as I get my pc back up though, I'll try to drop you a line. Also I have a long (11M postscript) document on how to use pine for absolute beginners. If you would like to see the first couple of pages to see if it is something you could use let me know. good luck sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 7 23:57:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10043; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12219; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:52:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jeffnet.efn.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12213; Fri, 7 Apr 95 23:52:43 -0700 Received: from jeffnet.efn.org (kevinw@jeffnet.efn.org [198.68.17.76]) by jeffnet.efn.org (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA26878 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:10:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:10:35 -0800 From: Kevin Workman Subject: Remote folders and filters To: Pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, my access provider is using pine 3.89 and running Linux 1.1.59 (POSIX). I am wondering if there is an easy way to set up some remote folders for another server that I use. Currently that server is forwarding all my mail to this system. Also can someone let me know where I can find some filter programs that will let me sort incoming mail into seperate folders? And finally, in all the help screens it says you can do this and that in the configuration menu but neither of the access providers version of Pine has a configuration menu. Is this something that is available in a newer version? Thanks for the help Kevin Workman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 00:17:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10490; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:17:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12465; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:11:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12459; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:11:17 -0700 Received: by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.12/Netcom) id AAA13975; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:11:13 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 00:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Juanita Fischer X-Sender: juanfisc@netcom20 To: Paul Joseph Welty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Phantom incoming folders In-Reply-To: <3m3if4$pbj@moe.cc.emory.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone helped me when I had this problem, so I'll try to help you. Hopefully one of these two suggestions will work. Make sure that the files with these names actually have been deleted from your folder directory. Then edit your .pinerc file and delete the folder names from your incoming folder statement. You can't do this from the config menu. You haved to edit the .pinerc file. Good luck. On 7 Apr 1995, Paul Joseph Welty wrote: > Somehow I created 2 incoming mail folders whose names *do* appear in the > incoming mail folders list. However, when I try to delete them (which I > would really like to do), PINE tells me that they do not exist. Where > are they? How do I nix them? Thanks in advance. > > Paul Welty > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 01:02:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11447; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10132; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:58:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10126; Sat, 8 Apr 95 00:58:49 -0700 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10329 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for Pine-Info ); Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:45 +0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:45 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: Pine-Info Subject: When does Pine backup my mail? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Sometimes when I'm composing my mail in Pine and I got logged out suddenly, Pine resumes my mail when next time I login again. However, it doesn't always do this to protect me. When and under what circumstances will pine do such protection and when not? Thank you. (BTW, I'm dialing up to a UNIX server via modem.) -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 01:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12681; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:47:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10716; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:44:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10710; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:44:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxW5w-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 01:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: "=20" at end of lines Message-Id: <1736C9D5FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 11:11:21 GMT In article <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> odin@anshar.shadow.net (PNEWS) writes: >In not all but in some of the text sent out over a mailing list for which >I use a mail alias I get these funny end of line "=20" characters. Trailing space(s) when mail is transmitted in qp mode. But if the recipient is using a MIME-compatible reader they will not see these. qp encoding is only seen by s/one viewing the raw MIME. > Curiously it only occurs occasionally. Trailing space(s) alone would not cause PINE to use QP encoding, I think. But if it uses qp encoding for some other reason, it will encode trailing spaces in this way. > Is this something I can compensate >for Don't do whatever it is that you are doing to put PINE into qp mode ;-) Somewhere in that MIME is likely to be some other =xx encoding or other reason for PINE to have chosen to use qp encoding. >or is it a MIME incompatability at the receiver's site? Sounds as if the receiver does not use a MIME-compatible mail client. >Any ideas? Please don't say that, it's so irritating! We all have ideas, some are more practical than others... have fun From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 02:13:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13206; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14041; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:08:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14033; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:08:03 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA11299; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:06:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:06:21 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "=20" at end of lines In-Reply-To: <1736C9D5FS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Alan J Flavell wrote: > In article <3l0794$g13@anshar.shadow.net> > odin@anshar.shadow.net (PNEWS) writes: > =20 > >In not all but in some of the text sent out over a mailing list for whic= h > >I use a mail alias I get these funny end of line "=3D20" characters. > =20 > Trailing space(s) when mail is transmitted in qp mode. But if the > recipient is using a MIME-compatible reader they will not see these. > qp encoding is only seen by s/one viewing the raw MIME. Unfortunately I also saw some mailing lists processors removing the=20 header line ``MIME-Version: 1.0''. Than a MIME-aware mail reader doesn't=20 help I think ... | | Bc. Vladimir Solnicky (Vladim=EDr Solnick=FD using ISO 8859-1 or 2) | | Institute of Information UTIA AV CR \/ Theory and Automation Pod vodarenskou vezi 4 Department of Computing Systems 182 08 Praha 8-Liben +42 2 6605/2212 fax: +42 2 66414677 Czech Republic +42 2 6605/2364 e-mail: vs@utia.cas.cz Europe WWW (will) be at http://www.utia.cas.cz/home/WWW/data/user_data/vs/vs-home.= http From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 03:02:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14181; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14620; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:59:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14611; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:59:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxXF3-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 02:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cttest@ix.netcom.com (A-G Beta) Subject: Is anyone seeing this? Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:59:59 GMT Message-Id: <3m1o8v$s3d@ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I have posted several messages to this newsgroup, and none have been answered. From what I can tell, this newsgroup is part of a Pine listserv. Can someone tell me how to subscribe to it? Thanks again From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 03:34:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14958; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:34:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11682; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:29:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11676; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:29:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxXkM-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 13:12:33 -0400 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199504071603.MAA106048@acs.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 7 Apr 1995 ambo@acs.bu.edu wrote: > In article you wrote: > > : How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent > : an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my > : .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm > : encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? > > Most of what you said here is above me since I'm a newbie but I don't do > anything special to attach binaries. A friend and I pass Mac binary Photo- > shop files back and forth. The files go from Mac to IBM RS6000 through Pine > to another RS6000 and back down to a Mac. (I'm probably missing your point): > I wasn't clear in my message. I can attach the binaries and send them to people. What I can't figure out is how to tell the recieving mailers what TYPE of binary is coming. The mailcap file specifies what viewer to run when a particular type of binary is viewed. For example, in the default mailcap file, all binaries designated IMAGE should be displayed using the xv viewer. What happens when I mail the file to myself and other pine users, is that pine doesn't know what the binary type is and simply brings up a hex viewer on the file. What I want is to understand how to tell pine to designate the binary as an image file so that that other MIME compatible readers can behave intelligently. Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 04:00:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15384; Sat, 8 Apr 95 04:00:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11923; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:56:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11917; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:56:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxY9Q-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 03:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrlepage@stthomas.edu Subject: Re: signature block Date: 4 Apr 95 14:37:56 +600 Message-Id: <1995Apr4.143756.1@milo> Hi, Can someone explain how I can add an *signature block* automatically with my messages?? I have the 3.89 version and need fairly explicit instructions because am new... Thanks, Ric LePage rrlepage@stthomas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 05:52:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18269; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:52:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16855; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16849; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:45:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxZoT-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 05:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: Stripped addresses and IMAP clients Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 01:59:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: John, I hate to tell you this, but the pine-info to comp.mail.pine gateway never passed this article, nor could I find it on the zmailer archive. I only found out about it after I saw someone else quote from it, and then I had to search the pine-info archive, where a couple other of your posts appeared that had never made it to news. I haven't looked thoroughly to see if there are other posts mailed to pine-info that never made it through the gateway. Also, said news to mail and back gateway fails to pass the Reply-To: header from one to the other, which could be a problem for those whose From: fields are not the ones at which mail is desired... On Tue, 21 Mar 1995, John Gardiner Myers wrote: > writes: > > Zmailer rewrites the fully-qualified sender's name, if delivery is > > done locally, with only the login. > > ICK! But then, this is not too much different from how the mail would appear were it to be sent by Unix mail, such as... % uuencode core My_last_Unix_act.jpg | mail -s "Oh yeah? Up yours" root ...since most rewriting rules do not add hostname for local delivery. As a result, I've added comp.mail.headers (and dropped the zmailer group) to debate the merits of headers with only the login for the address. I was discussing how I attempted to reply to a message received on a remote machine, but delivered locally on that machine, retrieved via IMAP. My reply wound up with the *local* hostname appended to the login, which was not a valid recipient... > > Given that zmailer is delivering mail in this rather distributed > > environment, my feeling is that what it should be doing (and what any > > MTA should be doing), given the increased use of remote protocols such > > as IMAP to read mail, is not reducing e-mail addresses to the bare > > minimum, with the resulting ambiguity, but rather, the MTA should > > instead always be completing incomplete e-mail addresses. Comments? > > I agree with you completely. Zmailer should not be gratuitously > rewriting a perfectly valid, RFC 822 conforming, address into > something which is not even syntactically valid. > > The IMAP servers then try to turn this garbage back into something > that is syntactically valid, but as you seem to have found out it is > sometimes Garbage In Garbage Out. I've done more tests, having read through the IMAP4 RFC in a state of exhaustion to the point of hallucination, since it seemed that page 48 gave the indication that an IMAP client should be able to reconstruct the address as the IMAP server provides the hostname in its replies. Attempting to reply to a number of messages with no hostname in the address, whether stripped to form by zmailer, or simply never given the hostname by the sendmail rules for local delivery; in all cases, I wound up with a reply to the correct address, hostname and all. Then I got to thinking. The mailbox from which I read the mail is a bit distant, so I am in the habit of saving my mail to which I wish to reply to a local mailbox, so that the connection to the IMAP server does not hinder my composing a response. When I saved messages from a couple different IMAP servers, with the address as either login (from Unix mail on local machine) or (from Pine stripped by zmailer), and attempted to reply to those, I could not get the correct address. The information provided by the IMAP server about the hostname is lost when the message is saved to the local folder. My question now is: should the IMAP client be saving the message with the qualified address, so that information does not get lost? And would it be a good idea for the various sendmail rewriting rules to provide the full address as a default, even for messages delivered locally, in case those messages are accessed remotely and transferred to another machine? While the simplicity of a simple login for an address may have had its merits in years past, I feel that the time may have come to recognize that mail delivered locally doesn't always stay that way, and in my opinion, it would be preferable for the default sendmail rules to provide a complete e-mail address for delivery, even locally, regardless of the source of the mail (Pine, Unix mail, or whatever). Of course, there will always be mail with only the login for an address, so perhaps the IMAP client should do something with these when placing them anywhere other than where the message was received... Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 06:26:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18927; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:26:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13593; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:20:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13587; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:20:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxaQV-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 06:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Utility to read MIME-encoded message? Message-Id: <173789F4DS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 10:19:35 GMT In article <3lvcsp$rv@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> casimir@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (David James Makil) writes: > Would anyone be so kind as to point me in a direction where i may >find a tool, allowing me to decode a simple MIME-encoded message that i >received via the Pine mailer? I found a simple filter written in C, called "encdec". I think I used archie (or possibly Lycos search) to find it. It doesn't need any other binaries or scripts. If you don't manage to find it, email me and I'll look for you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:11:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21764; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19107; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:00:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19101; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:00:14 -0700 Received: from quads.uchicago.edu (quads.uchicago.edu [128.135.12.63]) by midway.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) with ESMTP id LAA22471 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:00:14 -0500 Received: (tadelaun@localhost) by quads.uchicago.edu (8.6.10/8.6.4) id KAA02576; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:59:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 10:59:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Tim Delaune To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Trouble with Bcc and Addressbook Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've had difficulty sending bcc messages to members of a relatively large distribution list (now 60 -- I was originally trying 240, but broke the list into 4): I'm trying to send a message to all these folks without sending them long headers they'll have to scroll through. Everything works fine until the point I send, when I get a short note on the screen saying either "Memory #" or "Bus #". But the debug transcripts indicate the sends are successful. Nevertheless, I only get the message in my Fcc file (though I am the primary addressee) and none of the members of the distribution list report ever getting the message at all. Is this a pine problem? A system problem? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tim ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the torture of chalk dust collects on my tongue Thoughts follow my vision and dance in the sun All my vasoconstrictors become slowly undone Can't this wait till I'm old? Can't I live while I'm young? -- Phish Tim Delaune -- tadelaun@midway.uchicago.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:21:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21921; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:21:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19264; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19258; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:11:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxd1H-00038RC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsquyres@kanga.cse.nd.edu (Jeff Squyres) Subject: Sendmail 8.6.10 problem Date: 6 Apr 1995 23:03:34 GMT Message-Id: <3m1s07$bt8@news.nd.edu> I am running SunOS 4.1.3 on a Sparc 10 with sendmail 8.6.10. When pine replies to all recipients (and this list of recipients is rather long), I get the following message on my console: kanga sendmail[1635]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from username@localhost: newline in string "user1@host1.edu, user2@host2.edu, user3@host3.edu, user4@host4.edu, user5@host5.edu, user6@host6.edu, ....... " etc. I realize that newlines in strings were security problems before sendmail 8.6.10 but has now been apparently fixed, and this is why sendmail is giving me this message, but why does the latest version of pine still submit messages incorrectly this way? Is there a patch? {+} Jeff Squyres {+} Squyres@nd.edu {+} Perpetual Obsessive Notre Dame Student Craving Utter Madness. {+} (5 years and counting -- 2 more years of eligibility) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 09:31:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22118; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:31:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19333; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19327; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:53 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15668; Sat, 8 Apr 95 09:18:41 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 09:18:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Ronald D. Kurr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ron, Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. -teg On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > On Fri, 7 Apr 1995 ambo@acs.bu.edu wrote: > > > In article you wrote: > > > > : How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent > > : an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my > > : .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm > > : encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? > > > > Most of what you said here is above me since I'm a newbie but I don't do > > anything special to attach binaries. A friend and I pass Mac binary Photo- > > shop files back and forth. The files go from Mac to IBM RS6000 through Pine > > to another RS6000 and back down to a Mac. (I'm probably missing your point): > > > > I wasn't clear in my message. I can attach the binaries and send them to > people. What I can't figure out is how to tell the recieving mailers what > TYPE of binary is coming. The mailcap file specifies what viewer to run when > a particular type of binary is viewed. For example, in the default mailcap > file, all binaries designated IMAGE should be displayed using the xv viewer. > What happens when I mail the file to myself and other pine users, is that > pine doesn't know what the binary type is and simply brings up a hex viewer > on the file. What I want is to understand how to tell pine to designate the > binary as an image file so that that other MIME compatible readers can > behave intelligently. > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 12:02:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25064; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:02:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16794; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16788; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxfgG-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ashok Aiyar Subject: Re: Problem running with SLIP Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 11:34:17 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > Anyone had any luck getting Windows pc-pine and SLIP working with Trumpet > winsock? > > Pine is finding the host but failing to connect to the IMAP server. It > continues trying and after the first minute, and each 15 secs further, > asks if you want to continue trying. Seems to work okay for me. Make sure that you have an entry for IMAP2 in the Winsock "services" files. I seem to recall adding a line like: imap2 143/tcp #Internet Mail Access Protocol v2 to my services file quite some time back. Cheers, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar http://biocserver.bioc.cwru.edu/pp/aiyar/aiyar.html -- ...when fits of creativity run strong, more than one programmer or writer has been known to abandon the desktop for the more spacious floor. - Fred Brooks, Jr. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 12:46:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26074; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:46:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22061; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22055; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:41:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxgN5-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbact118@huey.csun.edu (kelly macone) Subject: Please help with configuration Date: 8 Apr 1995 18:57:12 GMT Message-Id: <3m6ma8$pm9@dewey.csun.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 14:59:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28643; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:59:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18725; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:52:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18719; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:52:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxiPq-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Kent Subject: Thanks for the Crtl-C on MACs Fixes Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 06:53:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Our problem is solved. Thanks to all who helped. ****************************************************************************** Jean Kent, Librarian Phone: (206) 528-3835 North Seattle Community College FAX: (206) 527-3614 9600 College Way North Seattle, WA 98103 email: jkent@seaccd.sccd.ctc.edu http://www.sccd.ctc.edu/jkent ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 15:09:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28835; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:09:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23819; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:02:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23813; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:02:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxiXt-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 14:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing MH folders with Pine remotely? Date: 6 Apr 1995 10:29:06 GMT Message-Id: <3m0fpi$pqp@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello How can Pine work with remote MH-Folders via IMAP in the same way as with MH? As MH saves messages as seperate files in folder directories Pine seems to be unable to deal with this structure because Pine expects folder files. I'm afraid thinking in the wrong direction! But, thanks for any hints. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 15:43:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29450; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:43:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19219; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:37:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19213; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:37:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxj5d-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Slavin Subject: Problem reading included messages Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 12:31:03 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Has anyone experienced a problem like this and solved it: To begin with, most of the users in my department use elm (actually two different versions! 70.85 and 2.4.PL21), and elm (at least the old version) likes to add some keywords about MIME, even though MIME-support is disabled. What happens is that I often get messages which appear to have attachments, but don't. In other words, the message looks like your average message, but PINE gets fooled into thinking that the message is in MIME format. Commonly all I see is the sender's .signature. Now, I have sent myself mail with elm 2.4.PL21 with no problems, both fresh messages and replies. Recently, a friend sent a message, of which I could read his text, but not any of the lines of an included message starting with the usual ">"'s. I didn't realize that I hadn't read all of the message until I went to reply, and there was the first part I had never seen. However, I can always read these messages in elm, emacs rmail, and the crappy old UNIX mail. Arghh. Any advice. Sorry if my message was a little confusing. Thanks. Shawn Slavin Indiana University Astronomy Internet: sdslavin@Pegasus2.Astro.Indiana.Edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 16:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29996; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24695; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:09:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24689; Sat, 8 Apr 95 16:09:29 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA13872; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:50 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA12343; Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:49 +0800 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 16:08:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Ashok Aiyar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem running with SLIP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 823 On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > Seems to work okay for me. Make sure that you have an entry for > IMAP2 in the Winsock "services" files. I seem to recall adding a > line like: > > imap2 143/tcp #Internet Mail Access Protocol v2 > > to my services file quite some time back. > Thanks Ashok, that's got it. Although I'm adding imapd 143/tcp rather than imap2. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 17:09:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01269; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:09:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25359; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25353; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:02:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxkQU-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 09:50:11 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I speicify the MIME type when attaching a binary? As a test, I sent an image to myself and all pine could do was run od against it. I have my .mailcap set up and it is supposed to run xv for images. Obviously, I'm encoding the fact that the .bmp file is an image. Any ideas? Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 20:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05192; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:54:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22191; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:43:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22185; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:43:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxnte-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knight@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU (John Boswell) Subject: Pine keeps replacing tabs with =09- Help! Date: 7 Apr 1995 02:13:41 GMT Message-Id: <3m274l$h1@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Hi, I've recently installed pine (v3.90) on our SGI IndigoII. It seems to work ok, except whenever I "Read in" a file (with the ^R command), pine replaces any tabs with "=09" and LFs (I think) with =20. If the recipient uses pine to read the message, it's not a problem. But if you use "mail" to read the message, it has all the tabs, etc. replaced. The read-in file is fine, since it gets sent just fine if I use "mail" to send the file. Any hints would be *greatly* appreciated! I often read-in files in messages I send; I need them to be sent without modification. Note that I get the same problem wither I use vi, emacs, or pico to create the file that I subsequently read-in. Thanks a bunch, -John Boswell -- **************************************************************************** Dr. John Boswell knight@grafton.dartmouth.edu Dept. of Chemistry, Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Oregon Graduate Institute, Portland, OR 503-690-1086 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 21:08:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05458; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:08:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28288; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:58:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28282; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:58:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxo4h-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 6 Apr 1995 21:51:03 GMT Message-Id: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? I'm not sure if it's my imagination or not but I could swear that I can resize the window once and Pine realizes it but when I do it again it does not pick it up. Say I'm not losing my mind... please! Also, while I have your attention, is there any way I can get pine to be more in tune with hpterm? It seems to have has a very poor rapport with it in terms of arrow keys and highlighting. Thank you, Bob Bosiljevac bbosilje@nt.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 21:29:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05855; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:29:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22603; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22597; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:23:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxoV2-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac200@cfn.cs.dal.ca (Robert E Adams) Subject: Re: Setting date/time Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 15:02:52 GMT Peter Schroeck (pschroec@rvcc.raritanval.edu) wrote: : April 2, 9:30 a.m. : Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? Mine read Feb. : 1980 (see date of this message). : Thanks for any help. : Peter -- Your message reqds like this when I see it. ................................................. Sun, 02 Apr 1995 10:34:43 comp.mail.pine Lines 5 Setting date/time pschroec@rvcc.raritanval.edu Peter Schroeck at PSG April 2, 9:30 a.m. Can anyone help me in setting the time and date on "pine"? 1980 (see date of this message). Thanks for any help. Peter ................................................. %% Bob Adams ac200@cfn.cs.dal.ca %%%%% HRD %%%%%%%% PUB REL %%%%%% % Adams Assoc (902) 456-0761 % TRAINING DACUM % % adams@ra.isisnet.ca % EDITING HTML % % Inexpensive services % GRAPHICS GAME ANIMS ART % % provided over the internet % Space LEASING Real Est PROFORMAS % %%%%%%%%%%% http://www.cfn.cs.dal.ca/~ac200/adams.html %%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Visit my home page for CIAU Mens Basketball From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 22:02:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06428; Sat, 8 Apr 95 22:02:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28965; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28959; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxoyG-00038LC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:11:28 GMT Message-Id: <3m3o7g$il0@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org> In case no one has responded by now, I find that using a header "Return-Receipt-To:" with my e-mail addresss does the trick. Be aware that you get a receipt when the mailer processes the mail and not when the mail is read. Bob Bosiljevac In article <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org>, Al Cohan wrote: >Hello. >I am trying to set up my custom headers in PINE 3.91 to provide a >facility to have a "return receipt" when the message is read, or received >at the far end. > >This is not for all messages, but for debugging a problem I am having >between two sites not receiving each other's mail. > >Any assistance would be appreciated. > >Thank You, > >Al Cohan > >-- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 22:02:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06454; Sat, 8 Apr 95 22:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22924; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22918; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:53:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxozX-00038MC; Sat, 8 Apr 95 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsf@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de (Josef Fleischmann) Subject: convert pine folders to mh folders? Date: 7 Apr 1995 13:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <3m3dam$g1o@hpsystem1.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> I'm planning to switch from pine to exmh. Is there a utility to convert pine folders to mh folders??? Thanks, Joe. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Josef Fleischmann Institute of __._. __.. O Electronic Design Automation ____ ._.. /\, Technical University of Munich -|~(*) 80290 Munich :::::::::. (*) voice: 49-89-2105-3692 :::::::::::............ fax: 49-89-2105-3696 jsf@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 8 23:22:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07852; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:22:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23678; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23672; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:10 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27063; Sat, 8 Apr 95 23:10:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 23:09:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Sean Dougherty Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Lew Newby Jr. (lnewby@unm.edu) wrote: > : How can I create a Global address book and a correct reference to it > : in the .pinerc? Also would this work in PC-Pine? On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, Sean Dougherty wrote: > AS FAR AS THE PC VERSION -- I thought I had that working once, but my > machine is the one that is experimented on with new software and now it > doesn't. As soon as I get my pc back up though, I'll try to drop you a line. If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 00:46:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09346; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:46:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01009; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01003; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:39:52 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA25947 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:39:50 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06374; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:40:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 03:40:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine crashes on long CC list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It came time for student government elections here this year, and one of the candidates got it into his head what a wonderful idea it would be to mail everyone with his campaign manifesto. Unfortunately all he did was put all the user names on the to line, so the first person who responded to it also chose to respond to all recipients which put that long list of names (over 200) on the CC line. Now any time someone who has that message in his inbox goes into Pine, pine will immediately abort and core dump. We're running 3.91a on AIX 3.2 RS6k if that helps. Obviously pine can't be expected to handle messages with unlimited lengths of Header fields, but it shouldn't core dump just by running pine. As it stands we had to go into each user's mail box using mailx and delete it in there which most users don't know how to do. I can send a sample of the message if it helps. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 01:03:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09774; Sun, 9 Apr 95 01:03:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01180; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:56:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01174; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:56:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxrdX-0003DBC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Ctrl C won't work on our MACs Date: 7 Apr 1995 03:09:43 GMT Message-Id: <3m2adn$bos@news.ysu.edu> References: Having made a post after 30+ hours of wakefulness about this thread, I feel obligated to chip in another 2c... In a previous article, brennan@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Joe Brennan) says: >In Mac NCSA telnet, pull down Session, Setup Keys, and blank out the >three boxes, especially the one that makes ^C be Interrupt Process >(referring to the Mac!). Save the settings. I can't figure out why >anyone would want the defaults; ^C is essential to unix systems. In the setup I was using, these keys were blank. That's what disturbed me, along with the fact that of the two sessions I had with identical settings, one worked well (the SunOS), while the other, um, did not. On a different Mac, running the same NCSA telnet, the host which did not work well before, seemed to be working, until I remembered I had opened an rlogin to the troublesome host. My actual telnet session was to a Dec Ultrix machine, which seemed to cooperate reasonably well with the Mac. However, a direct telnet to the BSD/386 machine is a disaster. I cannot use many of the control keys. I can't suspend and continue. I have to use ESC ESC ^ to mark text. (And I thought the Dec with no ESC key was a bit inconvenient for an Emacs junkie.) And I think that the ^O was lost -- I use Emacs too, and I was unable to open a new line. Right now I can't open a new line in Emacs, although I think I was able to do so with a direct telnet to this host (SunOS), which I am now reaching via telnet from the BSD/386 machine accessed via rlogin from Ultrix to which I have Mac NCSA telnetted. I need more OSes I can loop through to reach my destination... Obviously, Mac NCSA telnet works with some telnetd programs, and not well at all with others, and BSD/386 offered by my ISP is not one of them. (Maybe there's a replacement for that telnetd...) -- Barry Bouwsma, will crash computers for chocolate and dental care Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) LOAD "SENDMAIL",8,1 driving a 300 baud Trabant on the Datenautobahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 06:23:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16389; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27942; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:17:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27936; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:17:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxwmK-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 8 Apr 1995 23:31:13 GMT Message-Id: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Hi-- I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring uniformly on all platforms, it seems safe to assume that the cause lies in pine and not in an underlying IO problem. I'm collecting profiling information from 3.91, but in the meantime was this ever resolved? That is, was it ever pinned down as a pine problem? Any info would be appreciated. thanks jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 06:54:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16846; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:54:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05566; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:50:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05560; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:50:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxxEQ-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Version 3.92 Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 11:16:11 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No, Pine 3.92 will not include filtering... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On Sat, 25 Mar 1995, Michael Pollak wrote: > Date: Sat, 25 Mar 1995 06:33:46 -0500 > From: Michael Pollak > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Version 3.92 > > > Will it have filtering capability? Should I stop trying to master this > procmail nonsense? > > __________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 07:12:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17130; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:12:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28381; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:08:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28375; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:08:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxxYv-00038TC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chpat@cais.com (Chris Patkowski) Subject: Re: Linux/Pine spell checking problem Date: 9 Apr 1995 00:00:39 GMT Message-Id: <3m7837$ej2@news.cais.com> References: <3lpo9k$cr9@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 In article , gpl@gauss.eng.ohio-state.edu says... > > >Check out the pine FAQ on how to use Ispell. > >It basically suggests adding the following line to your .pinerc : >editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell #or your appropriate path. > >Then, to check the spelling, invoke the "Alt Edit" with ^_ > > > Hope that helps... > > Jerry > Thank you for your help. Spelling is working as a charm. -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Christopher H. Patkowski chpat@cais.com +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 08:55:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18797; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:55:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06938; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:51:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06932; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:51:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzEk-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw (Brian Tao) Subject: Re: No-op dead stream when using alternate editor Date: 7 Apr 1995 13:57:26 GMT Message-Id: <3m3gc6$736@gate.sinica.edu.tw> References: <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In article <3lsbtd$ldf@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: > >Any chance the code can be modified so that, when an alternate editor is >spawned, the IMAP client will go into the background and continue to >send NOOPs at the appropriate times? Failing this, a simple "Re-Open Mailbox" (control-R) command would do in a pinch. Right now I have to close the current one, open another one (assuming I have another mailbox to open), then re-open the first one. -- Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 09:28:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19396; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:28:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29627; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29621; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzbL-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: No MIME Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:52:47 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: "Lee M. Latham" writes: > [...] and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to > use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) Why not? One is readily available. Mpack and munpack are utilities for encoding and decoding (respectively) binary files in MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) format mail messages. For compatibility with older forms of transferring binary files, the munpack program can also decode messages in split-uuencoded format. The Macintosh version can also decode messages in split-BinHex format. In short, munpack is the MIME equivalent of uudecode/binhex. Versions are included for unix, pc, os2, mac, amiga and archimedes systems. The canonical FTP site for this software is ftp.andrew.cmu.edu:pub/mpack/ All official distributions of mpack 1.5 are PGP signed by John Gardiner Myers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 09:32:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19508; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07371; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:27:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07365; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:27:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rxzkj-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: curious@ios.com (Curious) Subject: CAN I UNERASE A DELETED MESSAGE ? Date: 9 Apr 1995 14:19:46 GMT Message-Id: <3m8qe2$kum@ankh.iia.org> Hello, Could you tell me HOW to UNERASE a 'deleted message' from my PINE mailer ? Thanks! Curious From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 11:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21504; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:26:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00829; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00823; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:22:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry1S1-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shuford@scs.unr.edu (Brian Shuford) Subject: Need signature help? Message-Id: <3lhoes$omo@silver.scs.unr.edu> Date: 31 Mar 1995 20:25:00 GMT I am trying to find out how to make a nice signature file. Is this done by just using a editor(Pico) and painstaking making one or is thier a better way to make a nice one, like with a picture or image of something. I see alot of nice sig. with things i could never make. If so could someone please tell me how or is there a FAQ on this Thanks, Shuford@pogonip.scs.unr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 12:28:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22619; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:28:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09438; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:24:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09432; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:24:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry2O4-00038QC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: pine , filter , faq Date: 25 Mar 1995 08:06:02 GMT Message-Id: <3l0ita$j8j@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3kqsmb$5q9@lacerta.unm.edu> <3ktfud$gnh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) writes: >Farid Hamjavar wrote: >>Is there any FAQ that explains all the "filtering" >>PINE has to offer or one can do with mailboxes? > >But see Nancy McGough's Filtering FAQ, posted to news.answers with > > Archive Name: mail/filtering-faq > >...meaning you can get it via anonymous FTP from > > rtfm.mit.edu:/pub/usenet-by-group/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Also the Pine FAQ talks about strategies you can use in Pine to deal with incoming folders. Both the Pine FAQ and the Filtering Mail FAQ are accessible from: http://www.best.com/~ii/internet/ -- /\_/\ @..@ Vote for the humanities.misc /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) newsgroup! The CFV is at ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 13:37:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24104; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:37:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02176; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02170; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:34:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry3ZM-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ronald D. Kurr" Subject: IRIX 5.2 PORT Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:06:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone point me to an ftp/www site that has an SGI port? Either source code or binaries would be fine. Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 15:10:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25846; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:10:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11438; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11432; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:05:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry56b-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Acac Subject: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 19:05:23 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly appreciated... Joseph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 18:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29789; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05300; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:20:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05294; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:20:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry81d-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 18:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stainless Steel Rat Subject: Re: mail filtering for Solaris 2.3 Date: 26 Mar 95 11:28:18 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: tsai@pwa.acusd.edu's message of Fri, 24 Mar 1995 16:35:12 GMT >>>>> "Allen" == Allen Tsai writes: Allen> Has anyone in this group configured and installed any public Allen> domain mail filtering capable of parsing regular expression Allen> on Solaris 2.3? I have no luck for procmail and would like to hear Allen> any suggestions and even better of successful stories. Thanks. Procmail works fine with Solaris 2.3 and GCC. Did you follow all the compilation and installation instructions? -- Rat | Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/ratinox | PGP Public Key: Ask for one today! | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 20:01:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01754; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:01:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15120; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:56:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15114; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:56:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ry9dv-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 19:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reccmo@unidhp1.uni-c.dk (Christian Mondrup) Subject: Re: HELP: User-id in Pine Date: 7 Apr 1995 12:37:14 GMT Message-Id: <3m3blq$n3a@news.uni-c.dk> References: <955604095620@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> Nat Queen (N.M.Queen@birmingham.ac.uk) wrote: : ============================================================================== : I want to change my return e-mail address in the "From:" line that : is placed in outgoing messages by Pine 3.89 on a unix machine. : The problem is that I want to use my "standard" address known to : my university's central mail server (as it appears in the header of : this post), and not my address on that particular computer. When : people reply to this "standard" address, which is expected to remain : unchanged, I can have the mail forwarded to any computer(s) of my : choice, depending on circumstances. : Pine automatically inserts its own domain name and my user-id on : that computer into my e-mail address. I can successfully change the : domain of the address by setting the variable "user-domain" in my : personal configuration file. However, it appears to be impossible : to change the variable "user-id". According to the Pine Technical : Notes (version 3.91), this can only be done in PC-Pine. : How can I replace my default e-mail address in the "From:" line to : my preferred address? Any help will be greatly appreciated. : **************************************************************************** : * Dr. N.M. Queen * Phone: +44 121 414 6590 * : * School of Mathematics & Statistics * Fax: +44 121 414 3389 * : * University of Birmingham * E-mail: n.m.queen@birmingham.ac.uk * : * Birmingham B15 2TT, England * PGP public key available on request * : **************************************************************************** Edit the file pine/osdep/os-.h thus: /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- Define this if you want to allow the users to change their From header line when they send out mail. The users will still have to configure either default-composer-hdrs or custumized-hdrs to get at the From header, even if this is set. ----*/ #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM /* comment out to not allow changing From */ and then recompile Pine. Also described in technicla notes -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Christian Mondrup + + UNI-C Aarhus, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. + + Olof Palmes Alle 38, DK 8200 Aarhus N. + + + + Phone: +45 86 78 44 44 + + Telefax: +45 86 78 44 55 + + E-Mail: Christian.Mondrup@uni-c.dk + + + + Opinions expressed are mine and do not reflect those of my employer. + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 20:52:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02772; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:52:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15863; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15857; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:32 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05854; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 19:49:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David Clark Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine news & .newsrc X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Pine should create a .newsrc automatically when you first subscribe to a newsgroup. -teg On Wed, 5 Apr 1995, David Clark wrote: > I'm writing some documentation on using pine as a newsreader & would like > some help. For the new user (on my system at least) a .newsrc file is not > automatically created. If a user goes into pine for the first time and > wants to read the news he/she cannot until the .newsrc file has been > created in their UNIX directory. I've gotten around this in classes I've > taught by having them start up nn first. nn creates the .newsrc, then I > have them quit nn and start up pine to read the news. > > My question-Is there any way to create a .newsrc in a user's directory > solely from the pine interface? > > Thanks in advance > > ----------- > David Clark \/\/\/\/\/\ There are only two or three human stories, and > Boulder Valley Schools \ they go on repeating themselves as fiercely as > clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ as if they had never happened > http://bvsd.k12.co.us/~clarkd/home.htm \ before. > http://www.mcp.com/~dclark/student.html \ -Willa Cather- > ----------------------------------------- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 21:04:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03011; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:04:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06809; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:51:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06803; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:51:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryATt-00038MC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 9 Apr 1995 18:33:53 GMT Message-Id: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 17 November 1994 _____________________________________________________ _________| |_________ \ | | / \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | | / \ | | / / | Copyright (c) 1994 Nancy McGough | \ / | | \ / |_____________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 About this Article ... 0.1 Copyright Notice ... 0.2 Acknowledgements ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail ... 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Filter ... 3.1 Setting up Filter ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 3.3 Filter References 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 0.0 About this Article Q: How can I have my incoming mail messages automatically put into an appropriate folder? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This article is the first release of an FAQ that addresses this question. This version gives basic instructions for how to set up either procmail or Elm's filter to filter incoming mailing list messages. Future versions of this FAQ will include instructions for doing other things like automatically replying to certain messages. If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the Elm and filter developers recommend procmail over filter. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.1 Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 1994 by Nancy McGough. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the author. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.2 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation Term Meaning ==== ======= FTP File Transfer Protocol HTML HyperText Markup Language HTTP HyperText Transport Protocol mailer Mail user agent (MUA) such as Pine or Elm pico PIne COmposer - friendly editor that's part of the Pine package RFC Internet "Request For Comments" document URL Uniform Resource Locator (specified in RFC1630) ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ Your home directory $HOME (see * below) * In this article I use ~ (tilde) to mean your home directory. Note that some shells, such as the Bourne shell (sh), do not understand the tilde notation so you will need to use $HOME instead. You can always get to your home directory by typing ``cd''. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article If this article is over two months old then there is probably an updated version of it in all the usual archives. Please get the latest version from one of these places: World Wide Web (the nicest format for online reading!): http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, WinWeb, or Cello. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in this article * to a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, can be accessed through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:60 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article If you are reading the plain text version (i.e., not the hypertext version) of this FAQ it is in RFC1153 digest format which means each subject is formatted as a mini mail message with its own Date, From, and Subject (and sometimes Followup-To) headers. Some newsreaders and mailers make it really easy to jump to a subject in an article that is in digest format. Here are instruction for some newsreaders: * NN's default is to split a digest and present each digest item on the menu. If you have changed the default by putting ``set split off'' in your ~/.nn/init file then you can split an article that is in digest format by typing G% while viewing it. This will present each digest item on a submenu. You can then read, followup-to, save, print, etc. individual digest items. * In trn (and its relatives like rn and strn) you can type ^g (Ctrl key and g key pressed together) to skip to the next line that begins with "Subject: " * In emacs GNUS, C-c C-n will skip to the next digest article (C-C C-p will go back to the previous digest article). If your newsreader or mailer does not have a built-in command that allows you to easily read a digest you can pipe the article to ``formail -ds'' which will split the article into separate mail messages, and then you can use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders) to read the folder. For example, here's what you would do in Tin while viewing the article: Type... In order to... ------- -------------- | Pipe a Specify the article is to be piped formail -ds >> ~/mail/faq.split Split the digest into individual messages and put them in a file named ~/mail/faq.split. (Replace ~/mail with your folder directory.) pine -if faq.split Use Pine to read the newly created folder. For more information see the formail(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:01:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with ``IN''. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. I do this so that when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up procmail to filter incoming mailing list messages. To find out how to process existing mail folders see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 1] Find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using csh type: which procmail Or if you are using sh or ksh type: type procmail If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``whereis'' and ``where''. If your system doesn't have procmail ask your system administrator to install it. If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like deliver, mailagent, or filter (described in part 2 of this FAQ). 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd pico .procmailrc 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace ``mail'' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd cd .procmail pico rc.test 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.test: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in the subject "Explanation of Test Recipe" below. 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace ``nancym'' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file: If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.test * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on And repeat steps 6 and 7. If you are still having problems see the subject "Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail" below. 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.folders for filtering incoming messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.folders 8b] Enter a modified version of the following in ~/.procmail/rc.folders :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk Create a recipe for each of your mailing lists. Make sure that you use ``^TO'' with no space between the caret (^) and the word ``TO'', and that both letters are capitalized -- if you don't it won't work. Note that ^TO is not a normal regular expression. It is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. See the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man page for details. For examples, see procmailex(5) man page. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.test line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders Note that it's useful to leave the rc.test line there for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail There is a useful script, which is part of the procmail package, for checking your procmail log file called mailstat. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either ``which mailstat'' or ``type mailstat''. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. It is located with all the other procmail tools at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe we used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . a space followed by any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:40 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. Some systems do not need a .forward file (i.e., having a .procmailrc file suffices if procmail already is the local delivery agent). ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.5 Procmail References Manuals: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 3.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:04:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders To read an incoming mail folder use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders). For more information see documentation for your mailer or newsreader. Here are some pointers. PINE ==== FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Manual: pine(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Manual: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Manual: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Manual: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn (Does anyone know if nn uses lock files? Is there any problem using nn to read a mail folder that is receiving mail? Please let me know!) (Also, please let me know what other newsreaders can read mail folders?) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:05:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to me at nancym@ii.com. If you are reading this with a viewer that understands the following URL you can use it to send me mail: mailto:nancym@ii.com Between official releases of this FAQ the plain text (ascii) version of the most up to date version of it is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail_faq End of Filtering Mail Digest **************************** -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < Infinite Ink ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 21:31:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03704; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:31:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16359; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:26:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16353; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:26:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryAzk-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 21:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: pine "user@domain" < FILE - doesn't work ? Date: 7 Apr 1995 07:50:38 -0500 Message-Id: <9504071258.AA29237@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) writes: |> >Input/output redirect won't work--clearly stated in PINE documentation... |> >It should, though. somebody else [reference lost] said |> >: The ability of a program to accept its data from STDIN being redirected |> >: to open file (by shell) is one of _very basic concepts of Unices ... There are interactive programs which do not follow that approach. See e.g. "telnet" or "tip". -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 22:40:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05033; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:40:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07993; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07987; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:37:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryC5a-00038LC; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: "signature-at-the-bottom" ??? Date: 10 Apr 1995 10:01:25 +1200 Message-Id: <3m9lfl$be2@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> In <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> rrlepage@stthomas.edu writes: >Hi, > Can someone help this "newbie" enable the "signature-at-the-bottom" >feature for the 3.89v of Pine?? A detailed explaination of set commands >would be most helpful!!! Edit the .pinerc file in your home directory (eg "cd; pico .pinerc"), move down to where it says "feature-list=" at the beginning of the line and add "signature-at-bottom" to the end of line. Save. Quit. Done. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 9 22:53:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05235; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08102; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:47:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08091; Sun, 9 Apr 95 22:47:43 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA18833; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:55 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13648; Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:53 +0800 Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 22:46:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Steve Hubert Cc: Sean Dougherty , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 803 On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? Cheers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 03:11:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10760; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:11:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20654; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:06:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20648; Mon, 10 Apr 95 03:06:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryGFE-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 02:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkagan@nslsilus.org (Myles Kagan) Subject: PINE for MAC? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 95 15:04:43 GMT Is PINE or a program like PINE available for the MAC. I am looking for a telnet-able E-mail server software that works on a MAC. I'd prefer to run a server on the MAC platform, if at all possible. Please send me E-mail. Thank You. Myles Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13577; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:48:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11915; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:38:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11909; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:38:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryHiL-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 04:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farzy@farzy.via.ecp.fr (Farzad FARID) Subject: Bug? Removing Incoming folder *deletes* folder... Date: 28 Mar 1995 14:14:48 GMT Message-Id: <3l95ko$840@piston.ecp.fr> This is with Pine 3.91. I had an Incoming Folder that I wanted to remove from this list. So I selected Delete, but this did actually *physically* remove my folder! I think there is a bit of inconsistence in the interface: I can create an incoming folder with Pine, but if I want to remove it from the Incoming folder list *without* actually deleting it I have to edit manually .pinerc. Could this be changed in a future release? -- * Farzad FARID Ecole Centrale Paris * faridf6@cti.ecp.fr Save a life, kill an anti-abortionist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:16:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14434; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:16:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22521; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:05:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22515; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:05:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryI9r-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juan Antonio Granado Andrade Subject: Problem with Ctrl-X in DecTerm VT330 Date: Fri, 7 Apr 1995 10:17:17 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a problem that is no reponse Ctrl-X when I'm running pine v 3.91 in my vt330. Could someone helpme, please? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:27:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14699; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:27:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22728; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22722; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryIPX-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Lee M. Latham" Subject: No MIME Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 03:48:19 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII could someone please tell me if there is a way to NOT mime-encode an attachment sent with PINE? I am trying to communicate using 8th bit ASCII in the Relcom (Russian) newsgroups, but they can't read my 8th bit attachements because they are MIME encoded, and apparently that is not standard there yet, and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) HELP! thanks Lee From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 05:27:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14734; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12422; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12416; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryINk-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@mark.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: Running two pines Date: 7 Apr 1995 16:50:15 GMT Message-Id: <3m3qg7$qst@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: Dion Vansevenant (stu2@faxon.ca) wrote: : We are trying to set up Pine for some external users, and would like to : do the following: : 1) Use separate pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed files for the external : users and internal users. [snipsnipsnip] : I have managed to get 2 & 3 to work for internal user with command line : options, but getting 1 to work properly (the pine.conf.fixed is a must, : don't want them changing certain values) is a bugger. The only way I can think of it to use two different executables with different pine.conf values compiled. You could either give the users different default path when they login so they find the different versions of pine, or simply name the versions differently and tell them which one to use. This would be enforceable with group permissions if necessary. --Dave : Any help would be appreciated. Please direct answers to my email address, : not just the list as I am no longer on the list. TIA : Dion : *----------------------------------------------* : | Dion Vansevenant dion@faxon.ca email | : | Faxon Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | : | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | : *----------------------------------------------* -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:06:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15557; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12781; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12775; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:58:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryIzD-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 05:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@monygmc.mony.com (David Kozinn) Subject: Re: how to read mime mail in pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 16:35:51 GMT References: <1995Mar16.020736.8731@uxmail.ust.hk> In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine handles MIME pretty much transparently. You don't need to configure >anything unless you want to set up viewers for special MIME types, etc. Can you give an example of how, for example, I'd add in a type for an Excel spreadsheet (file extension .XLS) so that if I asked to View that file it would pull up excel as the viewer? I understand the basics of the mailcap file, but I don't understand how to add a new mime type so that when the file is attached to the message, Pine knows to specify the type as (for example) "application/excel". Thanks.... -- David Kozinn dkozinn@csc.com / david@mony.com Computer Sciences Corporation Under contract to Mutual of New York Technology Managment Group +1-201-907-6990 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:31:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16141; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:31:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13073; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:20:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ctron.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13067; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:20:14 -0700 Received: from express.ctron.com ([134.141.69.20]) by gatekeeper.ctron.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA00627; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:20:12 -0400 Received: from burst ([134.141.58.59]) by express.ctron.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA24738; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:15:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:15:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ronald D. Kurr" X-Sender: kurr@burst To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Ron, > Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, > but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. > > -teg > Thanks for the info. Do you know when the next version will be coming out? Thanks, Ron Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com Rochester, NH 03868 "Opinions expressed are my wife's." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 06:46:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16427; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13292; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:38:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13286; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryJee-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 06:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbabcock@community.net Subject: Re: offline mail composing Date: 5 Apr 1995 09:49:21 -0700 Message-Id: <3luhmh$5h4@odin.community.net> References: <3ldq4a$s8k@abac.au.ac.th> If you have a file management area, mine is part of Lynx, you can just up load it using that program and your standard page up to activate your communications sofeware uploading mode. If not you will have to learn Unix commands (like DOS). Beverly Cook (beverlyc@ksc.au.ac.th) wrote: : Hope this isn't too stupid, but how do I compose a message offline and : send it using Pine. I'm using a Mac, my host is Assumption University in : Thailand. I made a teachtext file but didn't know how to import it. It : kept looking in my home/directory (whatever that is). Apparently I need : to import the file into the home/directory but I don't know how. : Thanks in advance for any (simply worded) help. : Bev Cook From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:31:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17386; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:31:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24359; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:20:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24353; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:20:25 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA08908; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:20:22 EDT Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:20:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unsubscribe to all newsgroups In-Reply-To: <3l48kt$1g6@empire.texas.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This should probably be a configurable option if things are changed. For use at home for the convenience of others who read news there I don't want to see a list of the "new" newsgroups. But here at work where I am a news administrator it is satisfying to see the list of groups that I think that I have added and to have the opportunity to easily subscribe to those that I want to observe traffic volume and the like. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 On 26 Mar 1995, Al Castanoli wrote: > Mike Brudenell (pmb1@tmphost.york.ac.uk) wrote: > : [...] > : Some newsreaders automatically check for new newsgroups as they start > : up. Pine does not do that at present (it may one day; anyone care to > : comment?). > : [...] > > Since you asked, I think it's an awful idea.... > > -- Al Castanoli | afcasta@texas.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:46:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17799; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:46:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14106; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14100; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:42 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12199; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:40:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 06:40:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Ronald D. Kurr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO PROPERLY ATTACH BINARIES X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No, we don't have a date for the next version yet. -teg On Mon, 10 Apr 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Ron, > > Unfortunately you can't control the MIME type in current version, > > but you will be able to in the next one via a "mimetypes" file. > > > > -teg > > > > Thanks for the info. Do you know when the next version will be coming out? > > Thanks, > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 07:52:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17924; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:52:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24747; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:43:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24741; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:43:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryKd3-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 07:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Daryl D. Rester" Subject: Pine under Unixware Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 09:00:23 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have the Pine3.91 system working under Unixware 1.1? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DARYL D. RESTER, SYSTEM PROGRAMMER | FAX (601)984-1724 UNIVERSITY OF MISSISSIPPI MEDICAL CENTER | OFFICE (601)984-1162 COMPUTER SERVICES DIVISION | MESSAGES (601)984-1140 2500 N. STATE STREET | JACKSON, MS 39216-4505 | INTERNET rester@fiona.umsmed.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 09:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22372; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16176; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:21:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16170; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:21:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryM61-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottr@plexus.com (Scott Reynolds) Subject: Re: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 10 Apr 1995 10:43:58 -0500 Message-Id: <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> References: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> In article <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) writes: > Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? Actually, yes, I've known about it for some time. I have been neglectful and never posted my patch (40 lashes are probably due me). Try the patch I've appended and see if it helps (it ought to!) > Also, while I have your attention, is there any way I can get pine > to be more in tune with hpterm? It seems to have has a very > poor rapport with it in terms of arrow keys and highlighting. I can't help you on either of them, but I have to comment on the rather silly way that HP terminals (and hpterms) do their highlighting. The approach that HP took is rather non-standard: attribute characters actually take up space on the screen, even though they're invisible. :-( Our solution was to run pine from a shell script that invoked an xterm if it was run from an hpterm. *** signals.c-dist Mon Oct 10 19:27:47 1994 --- signals.c Tue Jan 3 16:54:45 1995 *************** *** 315,320 **** --- 315,323 ---- dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); + #ifdef HPP + signal(SIGWINCH, winch_signal); + #endif if(ready_for_winch) longjmp(winch_state, 1); else -- Scott Reynolds Scott.Reynolds@plexus.com System Administrator http://www.plexus.com/~scottr/ Technology Group, Inc. Neenah, WI, USA 54957-0677 #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 09:56:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23244; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:56:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27707; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27701; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:51:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryMcy-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 09:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: xterm compatibility instead of full GUI? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 16:24:40 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3l70mi$br9@gate.sinica.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3l70mi$br9@gate.sinica.edu.tw> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- It'll be in the next release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On 27 Mar 1995, Brian Tao wrote: > Date: 27 Mar 1995 18:38:10 GMT > From: Brian Tao > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: xterm compatibility instead of full GUI? > > It would probably be a lot easier to add xterm mouse capability > into the next version of Pine instead of hacking out a full GUI. I > think this would be a popular item among the growing number of people > who run FreeBSD or NetBSD or Linux at home and XFree86 as the > windowing system. Very changes would have to be made to the existing > interface and the mouse support would be completely transparent to > those using Pine on a text console or over a VT-100 dialup. Look at > strn, mc and utree as examples. > > How about it, Pine people? > -- > Brian ("Though this be madness, yet there is method in't") Tao > taob@gate.sinica.edu.tw <-- work ........ play --> taob@io.org > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL3dXT9/IU4uTDdHNAQFPDwH9GRCX0dxAndnWNVNv+rOTrfqlCxre3lWi 8elitCG7sbhBHj58O5R31Z0lHBSsERZQceF/VnImvVhnHkvXuBrHqg== =IiDJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 10:29:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24777; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:29:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28456; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:22:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28450; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:22:12 -0700 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02176; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:21:36 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: David Dumaresq Cc: Sean Dougherty , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there > any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? > > Cheers! No date has been set for 3.92 yet. 3.90 did have several bugs that were fixed in 3.91. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 10:53:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25666; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:53:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28854; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:37:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28843; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:37:24 -0700 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HP65N5FUOS8WWA4N@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:31:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pico for VMS In-Reply-To: To: Gene Kleppinger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > This was posted to pine-info back in October: > > > I am currently training people how to use Pine on VMS. Is there also a > stand-alone version of Pico available? EDT, EVE, etc. are quite painful! > > ---------------------------end copied message------------------------ > > I can't find an answer to Peter's question, and I'd very much like to > know!!! ok, I will post to pine-info my answer also, it was not available at the time that message was posted, but on Apr 1st (not a joke), I made an announcement on info-pmdf about the availablity of a standalone PICO, which I ported, but is NOT supported by Innosoft. (there is also a port of PICO from the VMS port done by Yehavi.) you can anonymous ftp to ftp.innosoft.com, and get the files pico.olb for people who don't have DEC C RTL (or pre VMS 6.0) pico_link.com for people who don't have DEC C RTL (or pre VMS 6.0) pico_vax.exe for people with DEC C RTL pico_alpha.exe for Alpha pico_readme.txt general info /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:05:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26287; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:05:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18305; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:59:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18299; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:59:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryNfy-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Brody Subject: documentation Date: 8 Apr 1995 11:01:38 GMT Message-Id: <3m5qei$5m2@news4.primenet.com> 1) Anyone know if there is a complete documentation file (aka user's manual) for Pine (Unix) and if so, its name and where I might be able to find it? I would prefer to study the program in total offline rather than pop up generalized help screens while online. 2) When I first initialized Pine there was a welcome message and such along with a question asking my if I wanted to receive a usage/tips file (or words to that effect). I said yes and shortly later received this file in Pine. The file was lost before I could get to it. Does anyone know where I can get a copy of this file? 3) Is there a configuration reason why I am automatically jetisoned from Pine and returned to a system prompt after sending an email? I can find no such configuration setting yet when I write an email and then send it, I'm thrown into a forced quit; i.e., I'm tossed out of Pine and back at the system prompt. I should think I would remain in Pine until I explicitly quit, no? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:27:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27310; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:27:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18814; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:18:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18808; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:18:12 -0700 Received: (from rgaine@localhost) by pilot.njin.net (8.6.10+bestmx+oldruq+newsunq+grosshack/8.6.10) id OAA11090; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:18:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:18:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine user guide Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At our cite, we would like to make pine the standard mailer. I would like to know if there is a brochure type user guide for pine avaliable. Does this exist? if so, where can I get it? Rick Gaine Systems Administrator rgaine@pilot.njin.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 11:46:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28377; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:46:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00647; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:36:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00641; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:36:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryOEM-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 11:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: Window Sizing Pine 3.91 on HPUX Date: 10 Apr 1995 16:57:43 GMT Message-Id: <3mbo27$la0@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com> Perfect! This patch did the trick. Window sizing now works as expected. and Using xterms instead of hpterms is a workable solution and is, in fact, what I have been doing up to now. Thank you, Bob. >From my desk calendar for April 10, 1995: "One can never pay in gratitude; one can only pay 'in kind' somewhere else in life." -Anne Morrow Lindbergh In article <3mbjnu$6nc@cuckoo.pd.tgi.plexus.com>, Scott Reynolds wrote: > >In article <3m1no7$1fn@bcrkh13.bnr.ca>, > bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) writes: > >> Is there a known problem with sizing of windows on HPUX for Pine 3.91? > >Actually, yes, I've known about it for some time. I have been neglectful and >never posted my patch (40 lashes are probably due me). Try the patch I've >appended and see if it helps (it ought to!) > ....[stuff deleted about hpterms].... >*** signals.c-dist Mon Oct 10 19:27:47 1994 >--- signals.c Tue Jan 3 16:54:45 1995 >*************** >*** 315,320 **** >--- 315,323 ---- > dprint(9,(debugfile, "SIGWINCH ready_for_winch: %d winch_occured:%d\n", > ready_for_winch, winch_occured)); > get_windsize(ps_global->ttyo); >+ #ifdef HPP >+ signal(SIGWINCH, winch_signal); >+ #endif > if(ready_for_winch) > longjmp(winch_state, 1); > else >-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 12:53:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01680; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:53:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20730; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:43:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20724; Mon, 10 Apr 95 12:43:06 -0700 Received: from help-pc.utcc.toronto.edu ([128.100.102.189]) by bureau-de-poste.utcc.utoronto.ca with SMTP id <795832>; Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:42:32 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 15:42:46 -0400 From: Help Desk 486 Work Station Subject: Help in Windows Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I was trying out the windows version of Pine. *NOT* too bad. *BUT*, the HELP menu could use a CLOSE feature, not just a MOVE. I was able to exit by pressing down Ctrl & Enter. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 13:14:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02877; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:14:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21396; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:05:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21390; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:05:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryPfM-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bbosilje@nbrwh53.nt.com (Bob Bosiljevac) Subject: Re: addressbook update Date: 10 Apr 1995 13:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <3mbcfi$abm@bcrkh13.bnr.ca> References: <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.acns.colostate.edu> I don't know if this is what you are looking for, but in your automated update routine you could add the following: pine -create_lu global_addressbook fullname-with-lists-last This will regenerate the .lu file from the global_addressbook file. At my installation I run both elm and pine and I really hate having to maintain anything twice. So I have one file containing aliases (for elm) and a makefile that creates all of the other files that I need for all of the other mailers. Part of the make is the line that I've pasted above. This input is worth exactly what you paid for it! Later, Bob Bosiljevac bbosilje@nt.com In article <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.acns.colostate.edu>, Mike Maxwell wrote: >We would like to automate updating our global addressbook (it has 3500 >entries), so far we have successful updating the global addressbook file >but have not been able automate generating the addressbook.lu (index file) >that goes along with it. Is there a way to do this? > >After the global addresbook is updated we have to run pine as root to >update the global addressbook index (file is read-only to all other users), >we are looking for a way around doing this. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 14:00:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06906; Mon, 10 Apr 95 14:00:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04298; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04292; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:50:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryQMe-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 13:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rogers@eagle.sangamon.edu (Bill Rogers) Subject: Pine won't DIE!!!????? Date: 10 Apr 1995 14:34:31 GMT Message-Id: <3mbfln$qll@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Pine seems to be missing the hangup signal from the parent shell process. I've got lots of users that will just hang up in the middle of a session, leaving pine in a tight loop with a ppid of 1. Sometimes, pine will be in the middle of creating tmp files and away it goes. I don't know the particulars but, there were 26K editor tmp files this morning from one user. I suspect pine. We're talking: HP-UX eagle A.09.04 D 9000/827 1770625161 64-user license and pine 3.91 Does anyone have a simple solution???? thanks, Bill -- <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <> Bill Rogers, Assistant Director for Academic Computing Services <> <> Sangamon State University, HSB-115 <> <> Springfield, Il 62794-9243 fax:217-786-7188 <> <> Internet:rogers@eagle.sangamon.edu voice:217-786-7352(Mon.->Fri.) <> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 16:16:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21045; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:16:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25470; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25464; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:05:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rySUn-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DCIexpo1@aol.com (E-mail World & Web World) Subject: FREE INTERNET EXPO! 4/19-21 Santa Clara, CA Date: 10 Apr 95 16:13:22 EST Message-Id: <3mc3gl$55f@caesar.ultra.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Here's your invitation to the LARGEST and ONLY FREE event on the West Coast dedicated to the Internet, electronic messaging, and the World-Wide Web!!! 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For more information call DCI at (508) 470-3880 or visit our home page on the World-Wide Web: 4)URL http://www.DCIexpo.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 16:48:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22622; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:48:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18977; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:44:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18971; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:44:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryT6C-00038LC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: IRIX 5.2 PORT Date: Tue, 28 Mar 1995 08:30:00 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Get ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z and build it using the "sgi" port... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA finger for PGP key On Mon, 27 Mar 1995, Ronald D. Kurr wrote: > Date: Mon, 27 Mar 1995 13:06:50 -0500 > From: Ronald D. Kurr > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: IRIX 5.2 PORT > > Can anyone point me to an ftp/www site that has an SGI port? Either source > code or binaries would be fine. > > Thanks, > > Ron > > Ronald D. Kurr Voice: (603) 337-7363 > Cabletron Systems, Inc. Fax : (603) 337-7370 > PO Box 5005 kurr@ctron.com > Rochester, NH 03868 > > "Opinions expressed are my wife's." > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 17:15:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24393; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:15:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27087; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:09:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27081; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:09:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryTRt-00038OC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Better spell checker? Date: 10 Apr 1995 17:31:07 -0500 Message-Id: <3mcbjb$iba@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: <3m4jhj$nkq@crl.crl.com> [ jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> While the spell checker for pine is useful in that it tells you that -> the word is misspelled, I need it to correct my poor spelling too. Is -> there any good spell checkers out there that will work with pine that will -> do this? Thanks for any and all help! Get GNU "ispell" version 3.1.18 and install it on your system or check to see if you already have one. Other versions will work too. Set your alternate editor to "ispell" with the "S" option in the Main Menu so it looks like the following: editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell Once you've set it up, you can load ispell with "Ctrl-_". Ispell is a powerful spell-checker. Good Luck. -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 10 17:35:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29252; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:35:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20086; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20080; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:24:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryTiZ-00038MC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 17:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 10 Apr 1995 18:12:55 GMT Message-Id: <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article , Matthew Black wrote: >In article <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) writes: >>Hi-- >I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, >>but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently >>upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all >>platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to >>open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring > > >This problem occurs sporadically at our site. It only seems to happen when >our NNTP server goes/slows down. >--matt Several other people have sent me mail with similar stories. None of the hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 00:00:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08431; Tue, 11 Apr 95 00:00:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01239; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:55:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01233; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:55:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryZmz-00038WC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uwe Richter Subject: Accessing new mail from MH folders? Date: 10 Apr 1995 22:23:07 GMT Message-Id: <3mcb4b$np0@fsuj01.rz.uni-jena.de> Hello, does anybody know how I can access new mails from the mail spool directory via the "#mh" switch as a remote MH folder. If I try "{imap-server}#mh/INBOX" only the existing mails (that were read previously) are seen, but no new mails. On the other side, if I set the incoming-folder to "{imap-server}INBOX" new mails are seen but an error is returned while saving read mails into a remote MH folder. A directory is created, but no mail file can be written. ---------------debugging-------------- .. ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- expunge and close mail stream "{paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX" q_status_message, Count 1, "Closing "INBOX"..." output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:1, min0IMAP DEBUG: A00009 SEARCH SEEN UNDELETED IMAP DEBUG: * SEARCH 1 IMAP DEBUG: A00009 OK SEARCH completed IMAP DEBUG: A00010 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00010 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox prev_col: 0, prev_end:3, top_column:24 spacing:22 0 (null) (null) 0 1 ^C Cancel 0 2 Y [Yes] 23 3 N No 23 4 (null) (null) 46 5 (null) (null) 46 6 (null) (null) 68 7 (null) (null) 68 8 (null) (null) 90 9 (null) (null) 90 11 (null) (null) 112 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) IMAP DEBUG: A00011 Create #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: A00011 OK CREATE completed IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log babble: CREATE completed IMAP DEBUG: A00012 COPY 1 #mh/read-messages IMAP DEBUG: * OK [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP mm_notify NIL : {paxp02.mipool.uni-jena.de}INBOX : [TRYCREATE] Must create mailbox before copy IMAP DEBUG: A00012 NO COPY failed: No such destination mailbox IMAP 0:19 4/11 mm_log ERROR: COPY failed: No such destination mailbox q_status_message, Count 1, "Unable to save 1 read messages to read-messages" ---------------debugging-------------- Many thanks in advance. Uwe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 00:00:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08439; Tue, 11 Apr 95 00:00:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02430; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02424; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:52:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryZjS-00038TC; Mon, 10 Apr 95 23:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmaxwell@vagus.vth.colostate.edu (Mike Maxwell) Subject: addressbook update Date: 10 Apr 1995 05:10:05 GMT Message-Id: <3maejd$2bfo@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> We would like to automate updating our global addressbook (it has 3500 entries), so far we have successful updating the global addressbook file but have not been able automate generating the addressbook.lu (index file) that goes along with it. Is there a way to do this? After the global addresbook is updated we have to run pine as root to update the global addressbook index (file is read-only to all other users), we are looking for a way around doing this. Thanks. -- ================================================================= Mike Maxwell wk. 970-491-0352 Programmer Analyst fx. 970-491-1275 Colorado State University VTH Computer Services (VTHCS) Ft.Collins, CO. 80523 mmaxwell@vagus.vth.colostate.edu ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 02:54:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12778; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:54:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04475; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04469; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:40:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rycL9-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 02:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: How to configure PINE to automatically send copies to an address? Date: 10 Apr 1995 07:08:27 GMT Message-Id: <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to configure PINE so that when I send out a message, a copy is sent under CC to a designated alias. The alias has already been setup in the addressbook. Any suggestions Arvind.Kalia@anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 04:59:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16320; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:59:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05296; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05276; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:34:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rye8T-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whitus@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (Bobby R. Whitus) Subject: IMAP Client list needed Date: 6 Apr 1995 16:57:25 GMT Message-Id: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free and shareware clients for all platforms. Bobby Whitus Oak Ridge National Lab whitusbr@ornl.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:10:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16634; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06120; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06114; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryePC-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Al Cohan Subject: Re: How to get Receipt? In-Reply-To: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <199504080757.AAA00800@usr3.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Apr 1995 15:58:57 GMT On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Bob Brody wrote: > In article <1995Apr3.215823.21093@lafn.org> you wrote: > >Hello. > >I am trying to set up my custom headers in PINE 3.91 to provide a > >facility to have a "return receipt" when the message is read, or received > >at the far end. > I asked the same question and received some replies respectively. If > you haven't let me know and I'll forward the info I received. It seems > to work but not all sites support this so in some I get back a return > receipt notification, in some I don't. I tested it out and it works > though I'm still waiting to see if it works when emailing someone at > Compuserve because mail has been down all day there, I think, so I > don't know if mine has yet to arrive. As well, I find the receipt is > sent when the mail arrives, not when the recipient reads it. Not a > particularly good implementation, if you ask me. > > Regards, > Bob Brody Bob, thank you for your response re: PINE. I did receive a couple of replies and they seemed to work: In the header put Read-Receipt-To: and I think Reply-Receipt-To: or Forward-Receipt-To: ...I forget which one but the person said to put both in the header. So, I put these in my Custom Header, incorrectly thinking that they would only be invoked with I did the ^R for the "Rich Header" at the first level of Compose.....I started getting receipts from my own domain as well as other!....Not necessarily all, as this is up to the MTA at the far end, but enough that I knew something was wrong. Now, apparently anything but in the "Custom Header's" applies to ALL mail even though you don't it in your composition header. I was trying to have a default header with To:, Cc;, Bcc:, Attachment: and Subject: Then under Rich Header. I wanted the full blown expansion is Receipts, Newsgroups, Expire, Reply to, Distribution and any other field that I may use. Some of these files like Receipt, would have my name@domain, others would be available for use. So, now I have a different set of problems, namely trying to get this selective. If I can't find a way to enhance only the Rich Header, then it appears I will have to start PINE (3.91) with an alternate .pinerc file. Thanx again, Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:14:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16696; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:14:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05587; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05581; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:55:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryeRD-00038WC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 04:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: Pine error message and: Trouble with Bcc and Addressbook Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 20:53:02 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> It looks like there's nothing like a CERT advisory to get System Administrators to upgrade their versions of sendmail. Unfortunately, not as many of them seem to follow up to bug-fix upgrades. This problem occurs when you are using Pine with BSD Sendmail v8.6.10, which was released to correct a security hole as mentioned in a CERT advisory. However, there are a couple bugs in this sendmail, which were corrected and new versions of sendmail were released soon after (v8.6.11 and 8.6.12). Chances are, while your site was quick to upgrade upon release of the CERT advisory, they have not bothered to upgrade to fix the minor bugs that were introduced. Ask them to get the latest release of BSD sendmail (v8.6.12) from the same site they got 8.6.10. If this does not fix the problem, then report this bug to comp.mail.sendmail. An an unrelated tangent, given that people seem to upgrade based on security advisories but don't bother to follow up by upgrading to bug-fix releases or added-feature releases, and given that BSD sendmail v8.7 will introduce 8BITMIME handling to permit guaranteed passing of 8 bit mail messages over ESMTP, it's my hope that there will be another security hole found shortly after a stable release of 8.7 which affects 8.6 versions. This way, sites which would not upgrade to 8.7 to support 8BITMIME mail would go ahead and upgrade to plug a hole, with the side benefit of adding 8BITMIME support. My feeling is that non-US sites would upgrade pretty quickly to support their needs for 8-bit data in mail, but it will take some crisis to give 8BITMIME the widespread use that it needs to be really useful. Pine3.92 will take advantage of ESMTP servers with support for 8BITMIME by sending unaltered 8-bit data to them, meaning it would be possible for a message to be sent from Pine to another site without being converted to MIME quoted-printable encoding. Barry Bouwsma On 8 Apr 1995, Tim Delaune wrote: > I've had difficulty sending bcc messages to members of a relatively large > distribution list (now 60 -- I was originally trying 240 > screen saying either "Memory #" or "Bus #". [...] Is this a pine > problem? A system problem? On 10 Apr 1995, Monee C. Kidd wrote: > I've been trying to send a rather large file to a rather long distribution > list and I keep getting different sh ##### : Bus Errors. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:38:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17305; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:38:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06381; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:20:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06372; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:20:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryeor-00038TC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrlepage@stthomas.edu Subject: Re: "signature-at-the-bottom" ??? Date: 8 Apr 95 20:05:54 +600 Message-Id: <1995Apr8.200554.1@milo> Hi, Can someone help this "newbie" enable the "signature-at-the-bottom" feature for the 3.89v of Pine?? A detailed explaination of set commands would be most helpful!!! Many thanks, Ric LePage rrlepage@stthomas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 05:58:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17568; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:58:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06054; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:31:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from visla.utia.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05994; Tue, 11 Apr 95 05:28:21 -0700 Received: by visla.utia.cas.cz (16.7/16.2) id AA25136; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:24:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 14:24:34 +0200 (METDST) From: Vladimir Solnicky To: The Pine Discussion List Subject: WinSocks Pine Problem Message-Id: X-Postal-Address: UTIA AV CR; Pod vodarenskou vezi 4; 182 08 Praha 8-Liben; Czech Republic Organization: Institute of Information Theory and Automation (UTIA AV CR) Transport-Options: /delivery /return X-Confirm-Reading-To: vs@utia.cas.cz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="82924112-1483920592-797603074=:22602" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --82924112-1483920592-797603074=:22602 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hallo!=20 I am trying to use pcpine for Winsocks uder MS Windows. I prepared cp_to_iso and iso_to_cp tables for ISO 8859-2 and IBM code page 852, but I have problem with some characters, for example `s' and `z' with caron (\v{s} and \v{z} in TeX notation, `=B9' and `=BE' in ISO 8869-2). It seems = to me the tables are correct and sending a message containing these two characters to a Unix machine and then bouncing it back to Winsock pine shows everything O. K. I don't know how MS Windows functions OEMtoANSI and ANSItoOEM work, so maybe there is a problem somewhere there.=20 If you have ANY sugestions, they are greatly welcomed.=20 Thanks V. S. P. S. I sends these two conversion files as attachments. | | Bc. 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Pine files and documentation are available via FTP or WWW: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine or http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine : BYE BYE again DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 08:19:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21304; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:19:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08219; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:04:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08213; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:04:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryhRJ-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nancym@coho.halcyon.com (Nancy McGough) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 10 Apr 1995 07:08:00 GMT Message-Id: <3malgg$bjp@news1.halcyon.com> cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- /\_/\ @..@ /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough (----) http://www.halcyon.com/nancym/ ( o.o ) > ^ < Infinite Ink ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 08:22:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21380; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:22:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08533; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:14:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08527; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:14:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryha8-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 08:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pollarda@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) Subject: Pine and Compress Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 03:18:50 GMT I am new to this newsgroup -- so, don't flaim me if this question has been asked 10,000 times previously. ;) I would like Pine to compress my mail in each of my folders as it stores the mail messages and then decompress a mail message if I want to read it. Is this possible? A good chunk of disk space is taken up with mail in various folders that I want to keep. If there were some way to compress this mail without making it unreadable to Pine, that would be great! Thanks for any help you can provide, Art From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 10:18:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27247; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:18:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10953; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:09:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10947; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:09:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryjMv-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 08:19:42 Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> In article <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) writes: >Hi-- I recall seeing sporadic threads about this problem a few months ago, >but unfortunately I didn't save any of the posts. We've recently >upgraded to pine 3.91 (HPUX 10, Ultrix 4.4, OSF/1 2.1) and on all >platforms it appears that the new version requires much more time to >open a user's INBOX than did 3.89. Since this problem is occurring >uniformly on all platforms, it seems safe to assume that the cause lies >in pine and not in an underlying IO problem. I'm collecting profiling >information from 3.91, but in the meantime was this ever resolved? That >is, was it ever pinned down as a pine problem? Any info would be >appreciated. >thanks >jeff sumler This problem occurs sporadically at our site. It only seems to happen when our NNTP server goes/slows down. --matt ============================================================================== matthew black, systems analyst | The opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | don't necessarily reflect those my employer. cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu ===============================(c) 1994 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:00:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28881; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:00:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12517; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:54:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12505; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:54:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryk39-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 14:06:56 GMT Message-Id: <3me2e0$be7@grape.epix.net> References: Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : appreciated... Just go into PICO, blank page, type whatever you want your plan to say, then save it as file name .plan You have to put the . in No spaces, no Caps You can also make a .project file the same way BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:17:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29543; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:17:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12277; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:09:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12271; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:09:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rykLM-00038MC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hans Klunder Subject: safe pine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 09:05:42 GMT Hello, I'd like to setup a postoffice in which my users get pine as their default shell. However, I want to disable shell escapes and printing. Is this possible with 3.91 or do I need to hack the code myself ? Thanks in advance, Hans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 11:32:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00379; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13394; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:24:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13382; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:24:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rykW7-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Behrens Subject: Re: Multiple "@"'s in address won't mail correctly Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:21:37 -0400 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 4 Apr 1995, Jeff Nicolich wrote: > Can someone help me a problem I have sending mail to an MCI address via > PINE? > > The address is: > > @gatekeeper.mcimail.com:sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda > =id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com > (one line) The first part of this address ("@gatekeeper.mcimail.com:") indicates that the message should be routed via 'gatekeeper'. This is an obsolete way of specifying a mailing address. It is permitted by the standard, but it is rarely seen and its use is explicitly discouraged. If you leave off the routing prefix, you get sn=name%g=first%o=cs_first_boston%dda=id=csfbg+pnameb%csfbg@mcimail.com which, though ugly, should be accepted by Pine. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens P.O. Box 116, South Strafford, Vermont 05070 Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Lane, Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 12:01:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01928; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:01:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13372; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13366; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:46 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20384; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:54:13 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:54:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Bobby R. Whitus" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP Client list needed In-Reply-To: <3m16hl$f2a@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bobby, See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software -teg On 6 Apr 1995, Bobby R. Whitus wrote: > I would like to know what IMAP clients exist and what popular clients will > be supporting IMAP in future releases. I am interested in commercial, free > and shareware clients for all platforms. > > Bobby Whitus > Oak Ridge National Lab > whitusbr@ornl.gov > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 12:05:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02067; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:05:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13532; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:00:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13526; Tue, 11 Apr 95 12:00:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryl6i-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine and Compress Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:25:19 -0500 Message-Id: <3mehif$lmm@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ pollarda@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Art Pollard) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> I would like Pine to compress my mail in each of my folders as it stores -> the mail messages and then decompress a mail message if I want to read it. -> -> Is this possible? A good chunk of disk space is taken up with mail in -> various folders that I want to keep. If there were some way to compress -> this mail without making it unreadable to Pine, that would be great! PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where your actual folders are if the above is not correct. Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and invoke it with "./Pine" ---------------cut here--------------- #!/bin/sh FDIR=/usr/people/pollarda/mail for i in $FDIR/* do if [ ! -d $i ]; then uncompress $i fi done /usr/local/bin/pine for i in $FDIR/* do if [ ! -d $i ]; then compress $i fi done ---------------cut here--------------- Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 14:43:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09992; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18349; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:35:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18343; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:35:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rynY4-00038OC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 14:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: documentation Date: 11 Apr 1995 14:17:43 GMT Message-Id: <3me327$csq@grape.epix.net> References: <3m5qei$5m2@news4.primenet.com> Bob Brody (brody@usr2.primenet.com) wrote: : 1) Anyone know if there is a complete documentation file (aka user's : manual) for Pine (Unix) and if so, its name and where I might be able : to find it? I would prefer to study the program in total offline : rather than pop up generalized help screens while online. it's available from: pine391-DocServer@docserver.cac.washington.edu : 2) When I first initialized Pine there was a welcome message and such : along with a question asking my if I wanted to receive a usage/tips : file (or words to that effect). I said yes and shortly later received : this file in Pine. The file was lost before I could get to it. Does : anyone know where I can get a copy of this file? See answer to question #1 : 3) Is there a configuration reason why I am automatically jetisoned : from Pine and returned to a system prompt after sending an email? I : can find no such configuration setting yet when I write an email and : then send it, I'm thrown into a forced quit; i.e., I'm tossed out of : Pine and back at the system prompt. I should think I would remain in : Pine until I explicitly quit, no? You should remain. Dunno why this is happening ... something in your config? If I can figure out why, I'll post again. BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 16:17:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13928; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:17:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20891; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:12:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20885; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:12:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryoy6-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 16:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@ERC.MsState.Edu (Phillip Moore) Subject: Re: Pine and Compress Date: 11 Apr 1995 22:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <3mevd8$n50@NNTP.MsState.Edu> References: <3mehif$lmm@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> Ananda M. Kar (ananda@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: : PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. : Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the : PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where : your actual folders are if the above is not correct. : Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and : invoke it with "./Pine" I recently made a post asking someting simmilar. I think a better solution would be to change the code to make pine to uncompress (gunzip) only the mail folder that you are accessing, and when you are done would gzip it back up in the background when your done with it. Would be transparent to the user except for a minor delay when opening a mail folder. If I had some extra time I'd do it, but was hoping someone out there had already done it. -- Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 18:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18935; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21612; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:23:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.sasquatch.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21606; Tue, 11 Apr 95 18:23:47 -0700 Received: from ns.sasquatch.com (ns.sasquatch.com [165.227.66.1]) by ns.sasquatch.com (8.6.11/8.6.11.sasquatch) with SMTP id SAA28464; Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:23:35 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:23:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "juanitaf@sasquatch.com" To: Phillip Moore Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and Compress In-Reply-To: <3mevd8$n50@NNTP.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you'll write the code, I'll buy it for $5. If enough of us would, would it be worth your time? There are a lot of Pine users. Juanita On 11 Apr 1995, Phillip Moore wrote: > Ananda M. Kar (ananda@cs.utexas.edu) wrote: > : PINE can't do it but a shell sctipt can. > > : Suppose all your folders are in "/usr/people/pollarda/mail" and the > : PINE binary is in "/usr/local/bin". Set the FDIR variable to where > : your actual folders are if the above is not correct. > > : Create the following file and name it "Pine" do a "chmod +x Pine" and > : invoke it with "./Pine" > > I recently made a post asking someting simmilar. I think a better solution > would be to change the code to make pine to uncompress (gunzip) only > the mail folder that you are accessing, and when you are done would > gzip it back up in the background when your done with it. Would be > transparent to the user except for a minor delay when opening a mail > folder. If I had some extra time I'd do it, but was hoping someone > out there had already done it. > > -- > Hollernet: Phillip Moore PhoneNet: home : 601.324.0531 > WorkNet : NSF, Engineering office: 601.325.4023 (voice mail) > Research Center FaxNet : 601.325.7692 > Systems Administration WWWnet: http://www.erc.msstate.edu/~phil/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:41:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20465; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24722; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:36:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24716; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:36:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysCS-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: levin@world.std.com (levin magruder) Subject: Save messages w/o attachment in fcc: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:25:42 GMT When sending a message with an attachment, is it possible to have just the message, and not the attachment, saved in the fcc? levin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:44:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20602; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22521; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22515; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:41:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysIu-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlvictor@ciagri.usp.br (Reynaldo L. Victoria) Subject: Automatic Reply Date: 9 Apr 1995 14:21:52 GMT Message-Id: <3m8qi0$6u4@bee.uspnet.usp.br> I need to know how can I make pine reply my mail automatic. Could anyone HELP ME !!!!! Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 19:56:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20913; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:56:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24971; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24962; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:51:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rysPn-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 19:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine crashes on long CC list Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:06:26 -0500 Message-Id: <3megf2$llo@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: [ hosseino@yu1.yu.edu (Joshua Hosseinoff) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> names (over 200) on the CC line. Now any time someone who has that -> message in his inbox goes into Pine, pine will immediately abort and core -> dump. We're running 3.91a on AIX 3.2 RS6k if that helps. The problem is because the system is running BSD Sendmail v8.6.10. You can ask your sys-admins to upgrade to 8.6.11 oe 8.6.12, I believe this problem will be solved once it's done. Meanwhile configure Pine to use an SMTP-server, rather than passing your mail to sendmail directly. This bug was generated when sendmail was patched to plug a security hole. Here's how you can configure PINE 1. Goto the main menu by pressing "M". 2. Choose "S" for SetUp. 3. Type "C" for "Config". 4. Bring down the highlighting bar to the "SMTP server" line and add the following entry so the line looks like this: smtp-server = mail.yu1.yu.edu Make sure the name of your SMTP server is correct, the above is only a guess. This will hopefully solve your problem. Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 20:43:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21991; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:43:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23280; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:36:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23274; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:36:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rytAt-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 20:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Majka Subject: RE: news and .newsrc Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 18:18:38 GMT I've had the same problem you speak of when using pine as a newsreader. My solution was to run tin first. Have you tried adding (subscribing) to a newsgroup without a .newsrc file in $HOME? Maybe that will create a .newsrc file. Good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 21:37:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23321; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:37:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26452; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:31:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26446; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryu0z-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kstewart@sol.ashland.edu (Phrakr Trakr) Subject: Pine and mail filtering! Date: 12 Apr 1995 01:57:36 GMT Message-Id: <3mfc2g$min@pangea.ohionet.org> I was wondering. Is it possible to filter mail from your INBOX to different "inboxes"? For instance. I receive alot of mail from the localhost "ashland.edu" can I filter that mail into a "ashland" box? Could I filter @aol" mail into another box? If so please tell me how, I think it would help me clean up the clutter! Thanx! -- ~\\|//~ -(o o)- +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ | K. Scott Stewart | Email: kstewart@ashland.edu | Ashland University | | aka. STEW | scotstew@tso.cin.ix.net | AU Box #1622 | | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ ( \>_-_, _||_ ~-/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 22:37:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24975; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:37:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24829; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:31:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24822; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:31:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryuwP-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: 12 Apr 95 02:12:09 GMT Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mark Crispin writes: >On 10 Apr 1995, jeff sumler wrote: >> None of the >> hosts in question here have declared nntp servers in pine.conf, so the >> problem we're seeing is not related to delays in opening a connection to >> a nntp server. Any other suggestions would be welcome . . . . >There is a known problem in Pine 3.91 relating to slow opening of mbox >format mail files. The algorithm itself is OK, but certain C compilers >are known to generate code which runs very slowly. So I changed the >algorithm to an equivalent one which doesn't cause the problem. >This problem is fixed in the latest IMAP toolkit, > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z >Remove the imap/ directory tree in your Pine sources, and replace it with >this new toolkit, then rebuild Pine. This is unclear. Does this account for slowness in non-IMAP situations also? Are there updated binaries available, since a lot of people just get binaries from your ftp site. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 11 22:45:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25231; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:45:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27646; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:41:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27640; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:41:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryv7Q-00038LC; Tue, 11 Apr 95 22:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Slavin Subject: Slow open on INBOX... Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 12:32:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi. Somebody from UCS at Indiana University posted a message about a slow open of the INBOX with Pine 3.91, on all the platforms he had compiled it on. I have noticed this, too, both on our dept. HP735's, Suns, and my FreeBSD PC at home. I think that the problem has to do with the NNTP software. Try setting the NNTP-server to and running pine again. I believe that you'll notice that the lag is gone. I must admit that I found this by mistake, but I'm pretty sure that this is it. Hope this helps. Shawn Slavin Indiana University Astronomy Internet: sdslavin@Pegasus2.Astro.Indiana.Edu slavin@Cygnus.Bloomington.IN.US From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 00:18:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27523; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:18:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28854; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:05:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [137.98.200.54] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28848; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:05:38 -0700 Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA18799; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:05:15 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:05:13 +0100 (BST) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: Phrakr Trakr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and mail filtering! In-Reply-To: <3mfc2g$min@pangea.ohionet.org> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Apr 1995, Phrakr Trakr wrote: Pine is unable to do this but a filtering program such as procmail can do it. Procmail can be found at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz For more information on filtering please see Nancy McGough's filtering FAQ which is posted/mailed to this group/list on a regular basis. Stuart > I was wondering. Is it possible to filter mail from your INBOX to > different "inboxes"? For instance. I receive alot of mail from the > localhost "ashland.edu" can I filter that mail into a "ashland" box? > Could I filter @aol" mail into another box? If so please tell me how, I > think it would help me clean up the clutter! > > Thanx! > > -- > ~\\|//~ > -(o o)- > +------------------+-------oOOOo--(_)--oOOOo-------+---------------------+ > | K. Scott Stewart | Email: kstewart@ashland.edu | Ashland University | > | aka. STEW | scotstew@tso.cin.ix.net | AU Box #1622 | > | aka. Netiquette | | Ashland, OH 44805 | > +------------------+-------------------------------+---------------------+ > \,`/ / | URL: http://www.ashland.edu/~kstewart | > _).. `_ +-----------------------------------------------------+ > ( __ -\ | I have fallen in love with PERL:I don't mean Minnie | > '`. +-----------------------------------------------------+ > ( \>_-_, > _||_ ~-/ > ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 01:31:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29986; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:31:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27093; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:17:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27087; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:17:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxHq-0003AEC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Special Admin login Subject: Downloading News... Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:28:17 +1000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using PINE to read news from an NNTP server over a dial up slip connection. It's not too slow but I would like to download the news items and read them offline. What I have is a slip connection and full terminal access to an internet host. (In other words I can access just about anything). Can anyone help me? Please e-mail a reply to cwelect@ozemail.com.au. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 02:01:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00815; Wed, 12 Apr 95 02:01:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27544; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:50:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27538; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:49:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxwo-00038WC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:10:32 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 11 Apr 1995, Bob Manson wrote: > Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about > long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message > sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is > there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list > one name at a time? There is a really easy way. Instead of typing in the 25-30 names on the "To:" line, enter them on the "Bcc:" line. Everyone will get the mail, but they wont see any names in the header (including their own name). This also prevents people who reply to you from accidentally replying back to everyone. The "Bcc:" line is available as part of the Rich Header, which comes up in pine if you hit ^R when the cursor is in the header of the mail that you intend to send. If you absolutely want something to appear in the "To:" line, type in something like this: To: Various_People Bcc: (25-30 adddresses here. No parentheses.) That way, a copy will go to you in addition to everyone else, and something will appear in the "To:" line which will seem reasonable to the uninformed. The informed will no doubt figure out what you did and not worry about it. Ian Ollmann An alternate way is to send the mail to a dummy account with a .forward with all 25-30 names listed one per line in it, or investigate one of the many varieties of mail servers for creation of a mailing list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 02:01:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00838; Wed, 12 Apr 95 02:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00564; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:44:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00558; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:44:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ryxmf-00038TC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 01:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Stripped addresses and IMAP clients Date: Sun, 9 Apr 1995 15:15:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk writes: > But then, this is not too much different from how the mail would appear > were it to be sent by Unix mail, such as... > % uuencode core My_last_Unix_act.jpg | mail -s "Oh yeah? Up yours" root > ...since most rewriting rules do not add hostname for local delivery. On my systems, I always configure sendmail with FEATURE(always_add_domain) turned on. I suppose I should lobby to make it the default. A message which does not travel across the network does not necessarily have to conform to any network standards, such as the RFC 822 message format. In the case of many traditional unix mail systems, messages which remain local to the host contain address information in a form which does not conform to 822. This is not as serious a problem as taking messages that arrived from the network and changing them such that they no longer conform to 822, which a previous message from you indicated that zmailer did. > My question now is: should the IMAP client be saving the message with > the qualified address, so that information does not get lost? The IMAP server should not be modifying the content of the messages it hands out. In this situation, it has been given a message with addresses which do not conform to 822. It can interpret them the best it can, for purposes of computing the IMAP4 ENVELOPE data item, but it should not make a bad situation worse by trying to rewrite the headers. > And would > it be a good idea for the various sendmail rewriting rules to provide the > full address as a default, even for messages delivered locally, in case > those messages are accessed remotely and transferred to another machine? Yes, it would be a very good idea. In sendmail v8, you can do this by putting FEATURE(always_add_domain) in the mc file you use to generate the cf file. As you seem to have found out, in today's environments, "local" information tends not to stay local. Addresses should be sent in fully-qualified network-standard form. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:09:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10692; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:09:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02285; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:56:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alsys1.aecom.yu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02279; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:56:29 -0700 Received: from yu1.yu.edu by alsys1.aecom.yu.edu with SMTP id AA10089 (5.67b/IDA-1.5/AECOM-RIT for ); Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:56:26 -0400 Received: by yu1.yu.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA22905; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:57:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 10:57:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua Hosseinoff To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Suggestion regarding ;aad Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps it would be in order for the next version of pine to have a configurable option to allow ;aadx (delete and expunge all messages) when reading newsgroups, but not when reading your INBOX, or at least to double query you on your inbox. I accidentally deleted my whole inbox a couple of weeks ago with over 300 messages in it at the time. Fortunately I knew what most of the important pending material was at the time, but the reason it happened was because I was just reading newsgroups before and when it brought me back to INBOX after the last newsgroup out of habit I just hit ;aadx and voila it was all gone. Just a suggestion. Joshua Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:16:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10947; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:16:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05864; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:42:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05858; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:42:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz3Ud-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: How to configure PINE to automatically send copies to an address? Message-Id: <1737C9E56S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 10:15:32 GMT In article <3malhb$kf3@manuel.anu.edu.au> writes: >I would like to configure PINE so that when I send out a message, a copy >is sent under CC to a designated alias. The alias has already been setup >in the addressbook. Any suggestions You want this to be permanent? I use, under Customized headers, a Bcc: to the designated address. Works fine for me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 08:45:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12317; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:45:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02888; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02880; Wed, 12 Apr 95 08:29:19 -0700 Received: by server.bridgeway.com id <207555>; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:31:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 08:31:23 -0700 From: Andrew Le To: Joshua Hosseinoff Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Suggestion regarding ;aad In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To all users: Hello, I'd like to know how to get a list of all known mailing lists so I can get on, just like this pine mailing list... If you know of any way to get one and how to get on, please Email me. ================================================================== Andrew Le ================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 09:49:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16397; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:49:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04305; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:26:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04299; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:26:07 -0700 Received: from trex (trex.kwantlen.bc.ca) by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA10449; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:59 -0700 Received: by trex (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01056; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:58 +0800 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 09:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: David Dumaresq X-Sender: david@trex To: Shawn Slavin Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Slow open on INBOX... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1058 On Sun, 9 Apr 1995, Shawn Slavin wrote: > I think that the problem has to do with the NNTP software. Try setting > the NNTP-server to and running pine again. I believe that > you'll notice that the lag is gone. I must admit that I found this by > mistake, but I'm pretty sure that this is it. > Well I tried setting the nntp-server value to both "" and empty but it didn't make a difference. Both settings take about 40 secs (including login). There may be some difference between our systems. In any case, this wouldn't be much of a solution to those who actually have a nntp-server. Cheers, ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 10:03:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17009; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:03:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08708; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08702; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:43:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz5PX-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gk72@pippi.hrz.uni-giessen.de (Arthur Teschler) Subject: Re: No MIME Message-Id: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 17:18:29 GMT References: On Sun, 9 Apr 1995 11:52:47 -0400 John Gardiner Myers (jgm+@CMU.EDU) wrote: : "Lee M. Latham" writes: : > [...] and I don't reckon I can ask every user in Russia to : > use a MIME unencoder to read my posts! ;) : Why not? One is readily available. But why? If the 8th bit is delivered correct and not cut off by some stupid gateways, there is no need to put an ordinary ISO-8859-X text into 'quoted-printable'. I'd like to turn that off, too. I can see the use of m[un]pack when sending pics, sound-files or similar, but an ordinary letter containing Umlauts should not end up in a rather unreadable thing with = made into =3D, end-of-lines looking like =20, lines broken up at different positions than I intended or other ugly things. Pine has a lot of nice features, but I would like to decide when to use them myself. At least I would like to be warned that the message going off is in a format my counterpart may not be able to read. -- Arthur.Teschler@uni-giessen.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 11:10:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20213; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:10:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06446; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:57:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06440; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:57:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz6Y0-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry.Bouwsma@tuke.sk Subject: Re: How to include/send files WITHOUT modification Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 21:03:45 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mc8e9$1i6@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> On 10 Apr 1995, John Boswell wrote: > Could someone please give me a pointer as to how to get Pine to > send some text (that was "read in" with ^R) without having it modified? > It seems to like to replace all tabs with "=09+ and linefeeds with "=20". You're seeing the results of MIME's quoted-printable encoding, which is what Pine uses when the mail it is trying to send has some 8-bit data in it. (Technically, the =20 you see is not a newline but the space character at the end of the line.) Send a sample of a message you're trying to send. I don't see anything in your .signature or elsewhere that would trigger this encoding, so it would help to see an actual message so we could point out what non-ASCII chatacter it is which causes Pine to do this. Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 11:35:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21587; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:35:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11606; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:28:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11600; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:28:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz73b-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 11:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ethans@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu (Ethan J. Sommer) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 16:33:48 GMT Message-Id: <3meb1c$arf@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : appreciated... : Joseph you just edit the file and put what you want in it (what youtype will show) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 13:59:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28995; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:59:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10403; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:42:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10397; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:42:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rz95t-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 13:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harold@crl.com (Harold Jennings Jr.) Subject: q Date: 12 Apr 1995 13:22:08 -0700 Message-Id: <3mhcpg$npu@crl7.crl.com> I was using tin. I was trying to delete an empty message from a newsgroup and wound up blocking myself and all articles from myself from that newsgroup by hitting ^K-kill/select. How do I undo what I've done? I've sent 3 messages but none of them has posted. How do I use this function to avoid this in the future? Also how do I get back all the postings that's been deleted? Example-- newsgroup shows 74 entries- when I open the group the listing shows maybe 4/5 new postings. When I hit (R) to toggle re/unread groups, my postings or articles still won't show. Help me please............. Thank you......................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 14:58:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01676; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:58:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16799; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:44:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goggins.bath.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16793; Wed, 12 Apr 95 14:44:51 -0700 Received: from bath.ac.uk (actually host midge.bath.ac.uk) by goggins.bath.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:43:32 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 22:44:30 +0100 (BST) From: Andy Powell To: Pine Info Subject: Forwarded messages not flagged as such Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It would be nice if Pine set a separate 'F' flag on those messages that have been forwarded (or bounced). Is that possible or is there some limitation in the underlying IMAP stuff? I regularly have to forward received messages on to others for comment before answering the sender and it's sometimes difficult to keep track of which messages I've forwarded. I suppose that I could get round this by manually setting the 'Important' flag on messages (I don't currently use that flag in its intended way) or by moving messages between folders to keep track of which have been forwarded but it seems a bit messy? One other thing... in Pine 3.91 the 'Deleted' flag moves with a message if you save it into another folder. This seems a little crazy since the most common time this happens is when you have previously marked a message for deletion but then decide that you didn't really want to do that and save it to another folder instead? How about a clear-delete-flag-on-save option? Thanks, Andy. -- BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK Voice: +44 1225 826485 http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsap/ Fax: +44 1225 826176 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 17:52:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10928; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:52:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21301; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:40:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21295; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:40:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzCrj-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 17:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 slow on opening INBOX ? Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 17:17:09 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3m76c1$opv@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <3mbsf7$bnt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 12 Apr 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Mark Crispin writes: > >There is a known problem in Pine 3.91 relating to slow opening of mbox > >format mail files. The algorithm itself is OK, but certain C compilers > >are known to generate code which runs very slowly. So I changed the > >algorithm to an equivalent one which doesn't cause the problem. > > >This problem is fixed in the latest IMAP toolkit, > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z > >Remove the imap/ directory tree in your Pine sources, and replace it with > >this new toolkit, then rebuild Pine. > > This is unclear. Does this account for slowness in non-IMAP situations > also? Are there updated binaries available, since a lot of people just get > binaries from your ftp site. It accounts for the slowness in accessing an mbox format folder. In non-IMAP situations, it is local file access to an mbox format folder. In IMAP situations, it is the IMAP server's local file access to an mbox format folder. We only release pre-built binaries for source releases of Pine. We do not release development sources or pre-built binaries from development sources. So, there will be no pre-built binaries with this fix until 3.92 is released. The IMAP toolkit is also distributed separately as ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap.tar.Z That distribution reflects the very latest version of our development sources, for the benefit of other non-Pine IMAP toolkit developers. Often it is updated multiple times a day. For this reason, it is not practical to offer pre-built binaries for the IMAP toolkit, except as part of a Pine release. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:21:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11786; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:21:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16297; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16291; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDLB-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: reichera@itsi.disa.mil (Reston) Subject: Re: USING PICO TO CREATE .plan file? Date: 11 Apr 1995 13:51:50 -0400 Message-Id: <3mefjm$6bo@jcdbs.itsi.disa.mil> References: <3meb1c$arf@netnews.upenn.edu> Once created, make sure the permissions are correct, otherwise only you will be able to read it. Ethan J. Sommer (ethans@bip.anatomy.upenn.edu) wrote: : Joseph Acac (ez054061@peseta.ucdavis.edu) wrote: : : I am having trouble creating a plan file that will display when somebody : : fingers my account...Can anyone assist me in how to use pico or anything : : else to display a plan file? How is it done...Your help is greatly : : appreciated... : : Joseph : you just edit the file and put what you want in it (what youtype will show) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:27:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11905; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:27:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21856; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:14:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21850; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:14:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDOM-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmartin@vub.ac.be (Martin Jan) Subject: [Q] Changing attachment headers Date: 12 Apr 1995 21:37:37 GMT Message-Id: <3mhh71$q9p@rc1.vub.ac.be> The Eudora/PINE saga continues... I got Email from Steve Dorner (sdorner@qualcomm.com), the author of Eudora, who said that Eudora will recognize text files sent as PINE attachments as attachments on the condition that the header of the ATTACHMENT contains the following line: Content-Disposition: attachment For example: ---1044512224-2078917053-797701623=:26036 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="cnthermofin.tex" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Disposition: attachment Content-Description: XGRvY3VtZW50c3R5bGVbYXBzLHByZXByaW50LHByYl17cmV2dGV4fQ0KJSAx aW4gbWFyZ2lucyBhdCBsZWZ0IGFuZCByaWdodA0KXG9kZHNpZGVtYXJnaW49 MGluDQpcZXZlbnNpZGVtYXJnaW49MGluDQpcdGV4dHdpZHRoPTYuMjY3N2lu [etc etc] So the problem is reduced to finding a way to insert custom attachment headers. Any idea if this can be done in pine? Many thanks in advance. Be well, Jan M.L. Martin/Theoretical Chemistry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:42:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12475; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:42:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16622; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16616; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDgz-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Right Said Fred Subject: One more question Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:40:13 -0400 Message-Id: References: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3mbkn2$hf6@wariat.wariat.org> Hi, All! My PINE seems to be erasing the messages from the newsgroups one week after they are posted. Does anybody know how I can change it? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 18:49:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12717; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:49:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22295; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:40:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22289; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:40:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzDnE-00038QC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 11:41:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We don't know when 3.92 will be ready yet, but I do recommend upgrading to 3.91, since 3.90 has some bugs that can cause loss of your addressbook, etc. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Apr 1995, David Dumaresq wrote: > Date: 9 Apr 1995 22:52:27 -0700 > From: David Dumaresq > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Global addressboks for Pine > > On Sat, 8 Apr 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > If you are talking about sharing an addressbook between a Unix system and > > a PC (using some remote filesystem) this won't work with Pine3.91 (due to > > a bug), but it will be fixed for 3.92. > > > > Any word on when 3.92 will be ready, also if it will be a while is there > any reason to move from 3.90 (Solaris) ? > > Cheers! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > David Dumaresq | email: david@kwantlen.bc.ca > Programmer/Analyst, Info. Systems & Computing | phone: (604) 599-2120 > Kwantlen University College, BC, Canada | fax: (604) 599-2068 > > "The world is one country and mankind its citizens." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 19:04:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12994; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22502; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:54:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22496; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:54:12 -0700 Received: from [140.142.189.6] by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15777; Wed, 12 Apr 95 18:53:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 17:53:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Andy Powell Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Forwarded messages not flagged as such X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andy, The IMAP4 spec does define a small fixed set of message flags, but also allows for the possibility of some client-defined flags. Pine does not currently support the latter class of flags, but we may add that after we have everything upgraded to the IMAP4 spec... As for preserving the deleted flag on Save: we agree, and this will be fixed in 3.92. -teg On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Andy Powell wrote: > It would be nice if Pine set a separate 'F' flag on those messages that have > been forwarded (or bounced). Is that possible or is there some limitation > in the underlying IMAP stuff? I regularly have to forward received messages > on to others for comment before answering the sender and it's sometimes > difficult to keep track of which messages I've forwarded. > > I suppose that I could get round this by manually setting the 'Important' > flag on messages (I don't currently use that flag in its intended way) or by > moving messages between folders to keep track of which have been forwarded > but it seems a bit messy? > > One other thing... in Pine 3.91 the 'Deleted' flag moves with a message > if you save it into another folder. This seems a little crazy since the > most common time this happens is when you have previously marked a message > for deletion but then decide that you didn't really want to do that and > save it to another folder instead? > > How about a clear-delete-flag-on-save option? > > Thanks, > > Andy. > -- > BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK Voice: +44 1225 826485 > http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ccsap/ Fax: +44 1225 826176 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 20:02:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14567; Wed, 12 Apr 95 20:02:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17637; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:49:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17631; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:49:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzEvO-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 19:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jack@ns.pb.net Subject: Strange from lines .... Date: 12 Apr 1995 17:07:25 -0400 Message-Id: <3mhfed$5ec@ns.pb.net> I am having a problem with our from lines. It seems that pine wants to put either the hostname or domain name at the end of incoming mail address. Our mail comes in via uucp so the addressing is bang style, but if I could get it to be domain style I would be happy as well. The varying behaviour is related to if I have the user-domain= set to our local domain or not. If it is set then it uses the domain name and if not it uses the system name. Any pointer would be great. Jack Gross Republic National Bank From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 21:14:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16501; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:14:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24588; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:02:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail04.mail.aol.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24582; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:02:13 -0700 Received: by mail04.mail.aol.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA226025731; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 00:02:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 00:02:11 -0400 From: GEbeling@aol.com Message-Id: <950413000209_81485213@aol.com> To: 73261.2603@compuserve.com Cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine System with Procomm Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Guy K. Ebeling, Jr. 11488 Fernwood Ave. Fontana, CA 92337-2718 Home 909 356-1961 Work 909 685-2155 Fax at Work 909 685-7806 AOL Gebeling CompuServe 73261,2603 April 12, 1995 Datastorm Help!!!! My daughter Lisa A. Ebeling is a student at the University of Oregon. Recently one of her teachers told her that she would have to get an E-ma= il account on Gladstone for class work. Knowing that at some point she woul= d be using BBS I bought her what I believed to be the best software to use for= BBS=92s (Procomm for Windows 2.0) and now much to my dismay I am unable t= o get Procomm to work with Gladstone/Pine system 3.9. The problem is that Pine= system hi-lights items and when Hi-lighted they can not be read. The Pin= e System 3.9 comes from The Pine Development Team at the University of Washington, Seattle, WA at world-wide email at = pine-info@cac.washington.edu several of my daughters class mates and Lisa would like to use her comput= er to log on to Gladstone/Pine system but with these hi-lighted items not be= ing readable they are going over to the computer lab across the campus. I wo= uld like to get this problem fixed for Lisa and show her class mates that Pro= comm really is the finest package you can buy for data comm. I have tried changeing, types, colors, and etc todate. Your help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you in advance = Guy K. Ebeling, Jr. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:00:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17698; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25210; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:48:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25204; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:48:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzGjO-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s010mes@discover.wright.edu (Moshe Segal) Subject: Using Pine To Read News Date: 13 Apr 1995 01:45:35 GMT Message-Id: <3mhvnv$vgs@alpha.wright.edu> Hi. I just subscribed to this group, and this is my first post. I have been using Pine for a number of months to manage my mail. It is much more efficient and friendly then Unix Mail, especially where the editor is concerned. Until now, I have continued to use Tin to read and post to newsgroups; in fact, I am in it right now. For the first time, I seriously used Pine to read news a few days ago. In some ways, it is better than Tin, making articles similar to mail messages, and using simple commands. There is one thing, however, which poses a problem for me, and I am wondering if Pine has a way to handle it. In Tin, articles and their responses are chronologically arranged in threads, so that it is easy to follow a discussion. This is particularly useful when I have posted a new article, and am waiting for a response. It seems that in Pine, the articles are placed randomly, and in an index of hundreds of articles, those with the same name are spread far apart. Is there a way that Pine can be configured to organize news into threads? Also, is there a search command in the index? Once I have information, I can decide whether or not to switch. Hope to hear from you soon. -- You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:12:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17898; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:12:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19322; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:03:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19316; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:03:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzH16-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dunigan@primenet.com (Michael Dunigan) Subject: WYSE Terminal Help Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:48:58 GMT Message-Id: <3miag4$7gp@news.primenet.com> Okay here is my problem..... I have a lot of wyse 30, 60 and 160 terminals out there.... I want to use Pine for the e-mail interface. I know that the FAQ mentions that it won't support these terminals (at least when it comes to the arrow key functions). I figured out that I can used the VT-100 commands (i.e. ^[[A,B,C,D) to manipulate the cursor. What I would like to do is run a shell script before executing pine that would program the arrow keys to send back these strings. When pine is finished executing, it would restore the arrow keys to their default mode. I can't get this to work. It works great if I am manually setting them in SETUP mode, however when I script it I am having no luck. Does anybody have any ideas? Has anybody accomplished this little feat? I would appreciate any help. Please e-mail me and let me know. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:31:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18507; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:31:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19460; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19454; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzHAb-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ronald B Harris-White II Subject: How do you move a long listing of address headers to the bottom of the email? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 01:05:15 GMT I send email to a bunch of my friends all at once, and I get complants from them that the beginning is SOOO long because of all the address headers. So I was wondering, how do you move all the address headers to the bottom of the email that you are sending? ( I have seen it done before). Thanks... Ron Harris-White II rii@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 22:34:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18570; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25605; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25599; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:14:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzH9R-00038OC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: Re: pine user guide Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 04:24:53 GMT Richard C. Gaine (rgaine@pilot.njin.net) wrote: : At our cite, we would like to make pine the standard mailer. I would : like to know if there is a brochure type user guide for pine avaliable. : Does this exist? if so, where can I get it? : Rick Gaine : Systems Administrator : rgaine@pilot.njin.net We never found one, and wound up writing our own. It is big though 11M postscript file. I can send you the first 8 pages if you want to see if it is something you can use. If you can use it, I can send you the original WP 5.1 document. All we ask is that Texas Tech University HSC Amarillo, Sean Dougherty, and Kim Andersen are mentioned somewhere in your final document. sean HEAD COMPUTER GEEK TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY HSC AMARILLO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:07:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19424; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:07:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26305; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:03:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26299; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:03:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzHvQ-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 22:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: manson@ecf.toronto.edu (Bob Manson) Subject: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 21:27:51 GMT Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list one name at a time? thanks bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:32:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19951; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:32:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20316; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:23:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20310; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:23:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzID2-00038LC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: q Date: 13 Apr 1995 03:47:46 GMT Message-Id: <3mi6t2$a9h@grape.epix.net> References: <3mhcpg$npu@crl7.crl.com> Harold Jennings Jr. (harold@crl.com) wrote: A message having nothing to do with pine, but we'll try to help him anyway. : I was using tin. : I was trying to delete an empty message from a newsgroup and wound up Just a stupid question; Why did ya wanna do that anyway? : blocking myself and all articles from myself from that newsgroup by : hitting ^K-kill/select. How do I undo what I've done? I've sent 3 messages : but none of them has posted. Actually they probably have posted, but you can't read them because you killed yourself. If ya wanna let me know what group you posted to and approx date and roughly what the post said, I'll see if I can read it. How do I use this function to avoid this in : the future? Don't kill yourself. Also how do I get back all the postings that's been deleted? Theyre not deleted (from the usenet group) you just can't read them. : Example-- newsgroup shows 74 entries- when I open the group the listing : shows maybe 4/5 new postings. When I hit (R) to toggle re/unread groups, : my postings or articles still won't show. Help me please............. OK I'm gonna try, but if you don't understand any of this or don't feel comfortable doing it, don't try it or you could scew something else up. Open up a file (with pico or any text editor that you feel comfortabe with) file named .kill (must have the . in the file name). Now you should see the .kill file in text ascii form. If not, quit (cancel or exit without saving or whatever). If you do see it, delete the line (or lines) which you put there by mistake (in pico, put the cursor on the line and hit ^K (control+K). Then resave the file with the same name (.kill). Depending on your text editor you may be prompted if you want to overwrite the existing file or something. Don't feel bad, I did the same thing myself, that's why I'm so smart on how to fix it. There may be an easier way, maybe someone else out there in cyberspace has a better answer. BYE DearOldDad /~~~/~~~/~~~/\ /\/\ /\ / / / / \/\/ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad:The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\jgvd@epix.net Jonathan:Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel.\ \/\ \ /\ \ Thought for the day: / / / / / / \/ \ \/ \/\ None:My mind is temporarily out of order. /___/___/___/___/____\/____\_\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 12 23:38:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20070; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:38:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26670; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:29:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26664; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:29:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzIIh-00038QC; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: KevinSinclair@Computer.com Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: 12 Apr 1995 05:55:09 GMT Message-Id: <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net> References: Put the cursor in the header area and hit control+r. This is called the 'rich header'. Now put all your addresses in the BCC: field which stands for Blind Carbon Copy. No one sees anyone else's address when they receive their mail. Kevin Bob Manson (manson@ecf.toronto.edu) wrote: : Sorry if I missed it in the manual. People have been complaining about : long "To" lists in their messages. Often, a two or three line message : sent to a distribution list is preceded by a 25 or 30 line header. Is : there any way of telling pine to send stuff out to a distribution list : one name at a time? : thanks : bob -- \ __________________________________________________________________ / \ = Kevin J. Sinclair Project: \ = Kevin@computer.com Personal: > = San Carlos CA USA List Owner: Kidopedia & Grateful Med / \ __________________________________________________________________ / / -- Kevin J. Sinclair From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 00:08:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20864; Thu, 13 Apr 95 00:08:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20737; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:59:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20725; Wed, 12 Apr 95 23:59:02 -0700 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA16886; Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:58:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 23:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: WYSE Terminal Help To: Michael Dunigan Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <3miag4$7gp@news.primenet.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 13 Apr 1995, Michael Dunigan wrote: > Okay here is my problem..... I have a lot of wyse 30, 60 and 160 > terminals out there.... I want to use Pine for the e-mail interface. > I know that the FAQ mentions that it won't support these terminals (at > least when it comes to the arrow key functions). I figured out that I > can used the VT-100 commands (i.e. ^[[A,B,C,D) to manipulate the > cursor. Try this on for size...I call it "pine" in /local/bin Originally from a participant on the list. Maybe this could be added to the FAQ...it's not THAT long a script. Maybe at the archive site at UWASH? #!/bin/sh wpinesetup(){ echo "\nSetting up Wyse arrow and function keys..." # Next/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r \0177\c" echo "\033Z1w-\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\04\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\013\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\033[A\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\033[B\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\033[C\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\033[D\0177\c" echo "Done\n" } wpinereset() { echo "\nResetting standard Wyse arrow/function keys..." #t/Prev Page echo "\033Z1r\0177\c" echo "\033Z1w\0177\c" # Char/Line delete echo "\033Z15\0177\c" echo "\033Z16\0177\c" # Arrow keys echo "\033Z1+\0177\c" echo "\033Z1.\0177\c" echo "\033Z1,\0177\c" echo "\033Z1-\0177\c" echo "Done.\n" } if [ "$TERM" != "wyse50" ] then /local/bin/pine1 $* clear exit fi trap wpinereset 0 1 2 3 15 wpinesetup /local/bin/pine1 $* wpinereset clear exit ------------------ Note....original pine is in /local/bin/pine1 B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 01:25:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22871; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21854; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:18:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21848; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:18:29 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:15:20 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA02715; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:18:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:18:35 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Moshe Segal Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine To Read News In-Reply-To: <3mhvnv$vgs@alpha.wright.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You need to use Pine's "sort" command: $ Open up the newsgroup (or mail folder) you want to read. Type "$" and you will get a menu offering various criteria for sorting the messages. The best criterion for Usenet News is Ordered Subject (O). This sorts first by subject field (getting related messages together), with a secondary sort key of the date (sorting the related messages into chronological order by the date and time they were posted. When you close the folder the sorting is forgotten, so my instinctive reaction upon opening a newsgroup in Pine is "$O". If you find this useful you can make it the default sorting option in the Setup (S) Configuration (C) screen, accessed from Pine's Main Menu. Note, however, that this default currently affects *all* folders be they news or mail. Whilst I find Ordered Subject sorting great for News Collection folders I prefer Arrival sorting for ordinary folders, so leave my default as Arrival sorting. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On 13 Apr 1995, Moshe Segal wrote: > Hi. I just subscribed to this group, and this is my first post. I have > been using Pine for a number of months to manage my mail. It is much > more efficient and friendly then Unix Mail, especially where the editor > is concerned. > > Until now, I have continued to use Tin to read and post to newsgroups; in > fact, I am in it right now. For the first time, I seriously used Pine to > read news a few days ago. In some ways, it is better than Tin, making > articles similar to mail messages, and using simple commands. There is > one thing, however, which poses a problem for me, and I am wondering if > Pine has a way to handle it. In Tin, articles and their responses are > chronologically arranged in threads, so that it is easy to follow a > discussion. This is particularly useful when I have posted a new > article, and am waiting for a response. It seems that in Pine, the > articles are placed randomly, and in an index of hundreds of articles, > those with the same name are spread far apart. Is there a way that Pine > can be configured to organize news into threads? Also, is there a search > command in the index? Once I have information, I can decide whether or > not to switch. Hope to hear from you soon. > > > -- > You're not the only one who's made mistakes Moshe E. SEgal > But they're the only things 1336 Cory Drive > That you can truly call your own Dayton, Oh 45406 > > Some people hope for a miracle cure, s010mes@discover.wright.edu > Some people just accept the world as it is. (513) 279-0438 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 01:39:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23430; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:39:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28448; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28442; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:25:02 -0700 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:21:46 +0100 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (950215.SGI.8.6.10/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03138; Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:25:03 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Apr 1995 09:25:03 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Ronald B Harris-White II Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do you move a long listing of address headers to the bottom of the email? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The whole idea of headers is that they are *headers*... they appear at the *head* of something. In this case the mailbox format used by most mail systems and readers (including Pine) tends to be that known as "Berkeley format". This is defined as having the "header" information at the start of the message followed by the message text. What you *really* want to do is suppress the huge list of usernames. You can do this in Pine by *not* using the "To:" header field to give the list of recipients. Instead type Ctrl/R (Rich Headers) to get some extra header fields displayed. Then put the list of recipients in the "Bcc:" field. "Bcc" stands for "Blind Carbon Copy". This is a way of sending a message to a number of people, but who each only see their own name as a recipient -- they don't see each others. A couple of points to note... * For Bcc to work properly the mail delivery agent (the thing which writes the message into the file as it arrives, as against Pine which "simply" is used for reading the messages once they have been written into the file) being properly configured. If someone's "sendmail" delivery agent, for example, isn't configured properly they'll still get the full list of names (but then that's *their* problem:-) * The recipients can Reply to the message, but their repliy will only come to you, not to every one else you sent the original message to (as the recipient doesn't get to know about them, so can't reply to them!:-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-433740 On Wed, 12 Apr 1995, Ronald B Harris-White II wrote: > > I send email to a bunch of my friends all at once, and I get complants > from them that the beginning is SOOO long because of all the address > headers. So I was wondering, how do you move all the address headers to > the bottom of the email that you are sending? ( I have seen it done > before). Thanks... > > Ron Harris-White II > rii@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 02:13:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24104; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:13:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22392; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:03:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22386; Thu, 13 Apr 95 02:03:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzKhE-00038LC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 01:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Re: long "To" fields from distribution lists? Date: 13 Apr 1995 06:54:25 GMT Message-Id: <3mihr1$2nd@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net> In article <3mfpvt$ij6@hustle.rahul.net>, wrote: >Put the cursor in the header area and hit control+r. This is called the >'rich header'. Now put all your addresses in the BCC: field which stands >for Blind Carbon Copy. No one sees anyone else's address when they >receive their mail. While this is the recommended method in pine for sending mail via pine's internal aliases, note that there are (at least) two sendmail issues that may cause the addresses in the mailing list to be visible to recipients. 1) Sendmail strips the Bcc: field from outgoing messages. If your message has no address in the To: header, the message arrives at the target host with no header To: field (which violates RFC 822). The receiving sendmail thus adds an Apparently-To: line for every recipient. Most mailers filter out this header, but if yours doesn't (or if it offers a "raw header" option) - whoops, you see all the addresses to which the message was Bcc:'ed . Obviously this can cause a great deal of embarassment in some circumstances. The current solution is to always put something in the To: field - a dummy address, even an RFC 822 comment like (My-Mailing-List). (This handling of Bcc: has always been a problem and various alternatives are being discussed on the sendmail beta list.) 2) Older versions of sendmail (basically anything prior to Berkeley V8) maintain a fixed buffer for headre contents, the size of which is determined at compile time. A very long mailing list may cause sendmail's header buffer to overflow, with the overflow being insert into the message (and flagged as overflow). This has also caused much embarassment when it reveals to the world the contents of a supposedly "secret" Bcc: V8 dynamically allocates buffers for message headers, so this problem goes away. Few vendors ship V* sendmail however, so it is a problem to be aware of. Obviously these are sendmail issues but I thought it might be worth mentioning them. jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 06:23:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:23:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02504; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:13:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02498; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:12:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzOXH-00038LC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: Some problems being faced in PINE 3.91 under VMS Message-Id: <1737EC7C9S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <1995Apr12.134937.410@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> Date: Wed, 12 Apr 1995 13:12:22 GMT In article <1995Apr12.134937.410@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw> rakesh@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw writes: >Sorry to bother you all on this group. I recently installed PINE 3.91 under >VMS 5.5-2 & UCX 2.0E, which I got from VMS.HUJI.AC.IL. The current version at HUJI seems to be BETA_4. Did you use that? I can only respond to a few of your questions from my own experience, which was done first with a fixed version of BETA_3, and later with BETA_4, using native MULTINET (which is of course different in some ways from using any other TCP stack and NETLIB). >2. I have no luck with NEWS also, though I have declared nntp_server as my > machine kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw (which is an NNTP server which we are using > locally). It works for me, although I find I prefer to use the Madison NEWSRDR that I have already been familiar with on the VMS platform. >When, I go to list of folders under PINE, it shows me: > > News-collection (Remote) ... > [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-expanding] yes, I get both of those, at the start... (adding a group) > [News Group doesn't exist] No, adding a group with a known name works fine for me, and ] requesting list of all groups gives a massive list that looks reasonable to me. > Do I need to create > .newsrc or newsrc. file manually & what is format for the entries in it? I don't think so. I just did a test for you, renaming .newsrc to .somethingelse and restarting (HUJI)PINE. It gave me the same display as we already discussed. I subscribed to a group (uk.test) and it said "Creating news state SYS$LOGIN:.newsrc". >3. Though I am able to send/receive mail using PINE by setting logical > name PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL as SMTP but if I define smtp_server as our > machine (kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw & deassign PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL), I get > message: > > [Error connecting to mail server: ] Well, I get different results. It works fine for me when I define smtp_server (pointing back at the same VAX system where I'm running PINE, just like Yehavi's example in the README.VMS), but it didn't work when I tried the other method. I didn't go into details about why it didn't work, sorry. > What is the difference between the above two mechanisms (ie defining > PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL but no SMTP_SERVER & not defining PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL > but setting smtp_server)? Why the first mechanism works but the second > does not work (even though TELNET KUC01.KUNIV.EDU.KW 25 works fine & I > am able to log into SMTP interactively)? Well all that I can say is that it works for me, using MULTINET. I can only suggest that the first place you should look for problems is your NETLIB, but as I didn't use that myself, I can't say more. Anyway, if you have a method that works, what is your problem? ;-) >4. I could not find a way in PINE (possibly did not read documentation > carefully) to select only some mail items in a mail folder based on > date,from etc? Under VMS mail, this can be done by DIR/SINCE,DIR/FROM > etc. Can some body suggest, how can I achive this in PINE? Selection criteria. You need to enable the aggregate-command-set option before the "; Select" command becomes available, I think. I don't suppose you get precisely the same selection criteria in PINE than are available in VMS MAIL, but after all, you don't use the ability to execute MAIL when you want to use its particular functions... hope this helps. You can also look at my Web page on this: http://d1.ph.gla.ac.uk/~flavell/vms-pine.html (~ = %7E) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 13 06:52:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01120; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25363; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25357; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:38:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rzOxP-00038QC; Thu, 13 Apr 95 06:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dnw@eskimo.com Subject: pine, linux, X and popclient Message-Id: <3mi7lr$369@arnie.eskimo.com> Date: Thu, 13