From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 00:17:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09096; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:17:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19009; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:09:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19003; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:09:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZZph-00038KC; Tue, 31 Jan 95 23:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@creator.ucns.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Date: 1 Feb 1995 00:16:34 GMT Message-Id: <3gmjt2$q9j@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Rick Troxel wrote: >In article > >glenn@uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) writes: > > > > 4) Add an option that makes the 'n' (NextMsg) command in the > > > INDEX skip over messages marked for deletion. > > > > Try the [TAB] key. You might need to set some options in your > > configuration. Basically, it will cause you to jump to the next > > new/unread message. > > Yes, I use it regularly. But, it only goes to the next new/unread > message. Several new Pine users here have mentioned to me that they > would like to be able to quickly be able to get to the next message > that has not been marked for deletion. Maybe that's being too picky, > though. > >With the delete-skips-deleted feature selected, the above task can be >performed in 1 to 2 keypresses: Just press N to advance to the very next >message. If it's marked for deletion (check the upper right corner), >press D and you're there; otherwise you're _already_ there. Thanks for the response. Good point and good tip. -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 00:20:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09168; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:20:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20161; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:14:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20155; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:14:48 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA06286 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:14:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:14:30 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: Steven Feinholz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature files at bottom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote: > 2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature > file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the > bottom of the entire email message. This doesn't sound to be a bug to me because you may want to write a short note to your recipient so the whole message looks like this: -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 02:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13244; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22154; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22148; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:39:12 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26817; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:38:48 +0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Personal Mail Flag Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 828 Status: O X-Status: What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming personal messages _do_ show the "+", but enough do not to cause me to miss important messages occasionally. Several of our other users have complained of the same thing. We're using Pine 3.91 SOL on a Sun Sparc Server running Solaris.2.3 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 04:41:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16699; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:41:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23711; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:27:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:27:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZduZ-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Wet-Sprocket: > Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" > group in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800: >> >> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. >> When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail >> is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply >> command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will >> still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit >> the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way >> to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the >> addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in >> addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you. > > > It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' > value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add > instead by A to add and hit return immediately. > > But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't > graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself. > > > -- > ---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is recognized with others it isn't. (That is, Fcc is properly set even when I take the address from the message I'm replying to, but just for certain addresses (Fcc is set for all addresses in my addressbook)). My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the addressbook. Suggestions, anybody? tm P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to re-adjust the posting by hand. -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 05:47:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18837; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:47:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23860; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:38:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23854; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:38:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZexh-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern) Subject: .addressbook conversion Date: 31 Jan 1995 19:04:36 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi all -- Two requests: 1) How do I convert .addressbook format to .mailrc format (berkeley format)? I have found brk2pine.sh in the source distribution, but I want to go in the other direction. I need this because I automate mailing and it is easier to use mailx than pine for this, but I want to use the same mailing aliases as in my .addressbook. 2) How does one convert .mh aliases ( name1: alias1, alias2, etc.), which are pretty much the same as sendmail alias format, to .addressbook format? This is to help a friend who is interested in converting from mh to pine. I assume that all that is necessary is some awk or sed script, but I am not the strongest at this. Email as well as followup requested. Thanks, -- -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 05:53:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19105; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:53:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24734; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:43:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24728; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:43:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZf8j-00038PC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penev@pisa.Rockefeller.edu (Penio Penev) Subject: Re: Pine compiled for silicon graphics???? Message-Id: References: <3g0q07$qo2@abalone.ucsb.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 00:16:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 23 Jan 1995 09:45:43 -0800 Joyce Y. Wong (jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu) wrote: | I am looking for pine compiled for a silicon graphics machine | running irix 4.0 ftp://venezia.rockefeller.edu/pub/penev/IRIX4/pine-3.91 -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:32:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20464; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:32:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25174; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25168; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZfc0-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Need Pine Binaries, where's celestial.com? Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 04:35:09 GMT Message-Id: References: <3g0je5$kft@garlic.com> Status: O X-Status: Knute Snortum (knute@teleport.com) wrote: : On 23 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: : celestial.com *does* (or did) exist; I've been on there, but perhaps like : you, I haven't been able to connect to them recently, and I *really* want : to! I've answered this by private mail a lot recently, so a posting is definitely in order. ftp.celestial.com recently changed IP aggresses, and most of the world hasn't found out about it. Someone (probably me) needs to prod them about DNS propagation. ftp.celestial.com is now a CNAME (alias) for camco1.celestial.com, which is IP address 192.136.111.2 Another place to find my binaries package for Pine 3.91 for SCO is odi.cwc.whecn.edu. They're on the other side of MCI from me, through Sprintnet to Westnet. MCInet recently had a few serious routing glitches, so if you've been unable to get to WHECN, you probably can now, since MCInet has settled down. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:35:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20606; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:35:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24432; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24426; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZfaY-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Simmons - DCS) Subject: IGNORING SIGNATURE IN SPELL CHECKER??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:46:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello! Many thanks to all the people that have helped with their suggestions in regards the pine program. My question...is there a way to have the spell checker in pine ignore my signature (from the .signature file) as well as some of the text in letters that I might be replying to every time I use it. ...thanks ...mike -- ****************************************************************************** R. Michael Simmons (phone) 519-888-4567 ext. 3456 Computer Services (fax) 519-884-4398 University of Waterloo (email) msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21258; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24942; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:40:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24936; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:40:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZg33-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: [Q] How to force pine to save Passwd on disk ?? Date: 25 Jan 1995 07:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <3g4sv7$288@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Status: O X-Status: How can you force PC-Pine 3.91 to save passwd on disk, so the user doesn't have to sign in each time pine is started ? Thanks in advance -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 07:27:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22389; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:27:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26124; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26118; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:16:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZgZ7-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: 1 Feb 1995 01:29:11 GMT Message-Id: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800: + I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. + When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail + is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply + command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will + still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit + the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way + to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the + addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in + addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you. It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add instead by A to add and hit return immediately. But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 07:54:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23537; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26115; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:44:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26109; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:44:16 -0800 Received: by acs.ryerson.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01608; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:40:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro X-Sender: pribeiro@hopper To: Info Pine Subject: pc-pine(dos) with packet drivers In-Reply-To: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 291 Status: O X-Status: Hi, we use cutcp here as our main connection program and was wondering if anyone has used the dos version of pc-pine with vanilla pktdrv and the config.tel from cutcp? From the testing I've done, pine can't seem to figure out how to connect to the nameserver to lookup hostnames. thanks, /P From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:33:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25595; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:33:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26954; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:20:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26942; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:19:54 -0800 Received: from [3.12.38.33] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA29432; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:19:44 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA07642; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:18:15 EST Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:18:15 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HP Mail Client Configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP! I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to this configuration. My problem is that the modified sendmail.cf file doesn't look like the sendmail.cf file on a Sun mail client, so I can't correlate the entries. Please reply by personal mail to sugarman@mmmpcs1.psf.ge.com, since this subject is probably not of interest to everyone. Thanks in advance, Don Sugarman, Project Engineer sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:38:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25869; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:38:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27219; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:09:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27205; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:09:37 -0800 Received: from [3.12.38.33] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA28427; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:09:21 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA07397; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:07:51 EST Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:07:50 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: HP Mail Client Configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP! I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to this configuration. My problem is that the modified sendmail.cf file doesn't look like the sendmail.cf file on a Sun mail client, so I can't correlate the entries. Please reply by personal mail to sugarman@mmmpcs1.psf.ge.com, since this subject is probably not of interest to everyone. Thanks in advance, Don Sugarman, Project Engineer sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:54:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26947; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:54:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27465; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:39:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27459; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:39:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZhoL-00038MC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:11:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Leigh A Johnson wrote: > Date: Fri, 27 JAN 1995 15:41:40 -0500 > From: Leigh A Johnson > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? > > > On 26 Jan 1995, Joyce Y. Wong wrote: > > > > > how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there? > > which configuration item is it? > > > > i normally read news with trn > > > > thanks > > joyce > > from Pine main menu, go into setup, then into configuration. On the > first page of the config stuff, enter news.gmu.edu where it asks for news > server (nntp-site). exit all the way out of pine, then go back in and > look at your folder lists. this will pull in all of the news groups, so > you'll have to go and unsubscribe to any you've already unsubscribed to > in tin. Also, they'll be listed in alpha order. 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[7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 10:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03408; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:40:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01117; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01110; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:33:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZjcz-00038PC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 1 Feb 1995 17:33:04 GMT Message-Id: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. Thanks for all help! Best, John * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 10:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03579; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:45:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01111; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:39:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01103; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:39:39 -0800 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA21977 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 95 13:17:58 -0500 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA07203; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:05:30 EST Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04830; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:13:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:13:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what terminal emulator he uses. Thanks in advance. ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Fascimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:03:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04365; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:03:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01581; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01573; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZjyl-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "V. Tandy" Subject: Using Pine in Russian Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:11:23 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am interested in the potential of using e-mail between sites in the UK and Russia for teaching language students. We have contacts in Russia but the problem is that I don't understand how to transmit Russian characters as opposed to Roman characters. It is possible to use the Roman equivalents but to do this one Russian character often requires about three Roman, in one case six were used. This is also not beginners stuff..I have spent all week trying to learn how to say hello, so I should know! I am not much more advanced with my knowledge of e-mail so any comments would be helpful. Thanks Vic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:23:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:23:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02041; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02035; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:12:45 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA06829; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 14:11:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 14:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: John Dulaney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? In-Reply-To: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try sort < input-file > sorted-file "man sort" will give you details on how sort works... Mike On 1 Feb 1995, John Dulaney wrote: > Date: 1 Feb 1995 17:33:04 GMT > From: John Dulaney > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? > > I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find > any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. > Thanks for all help! Best, John > > * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html > * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at > * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip > * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail > * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. > * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details > * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe > > > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:39:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06824; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02517; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:26:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02511; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:26:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZkVf-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: My problems with the HUJI PINE 3.91 for VMS. Message-Id: <1733899ADS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:55:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland) writes: > - 'C'omposing a message gives the following message: > > Continue postponed composition (answering "No" won't erase it)? > > Answering 'Y'es does not continue Edit the configuration file to say: postponed-folder="" The accompanying notes state that postponing a composition is not supported. This seems to be not just a consequence that the command (CTRL/O) on VAX/VMS already does something different; there is an alternative way to issue the command (ESC ESC O) but this does not seem to work either (unless someone knows better). Some of your other problems may be associated with choosing to configure inbox-path=NEWMAIL. I received advice from someone else in email saying this is not a good choice, as things are today: it is better to leave it as INBOX and then go explicitly to NEWMAIL. I agree it would be nice if this worked more in accordance with VMS MAIL procedures, but possibly it's not so simple to implement. What would I know, I'm only trying to use this package, not mend it ;-) I'll be interested in the answer to your other problems (!) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07187; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02578; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:33:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02572; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:33:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZkVx-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VMS Pine and MAIL.MAI Message-Id: <173389F22S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <1995Jan31.095122.160@venus.senecac.on.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:18:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <1995Jan31.095122.160@venus.senecac.on.ca> IAN@MARS.SENECAC.ON.CA (IAN VAZ) writes: >I have Pine running on a VMS system. Works fine as long as you have >an existing MAIL.MAI file. If you are a new VMS user who has does not have >a MAIL.MAI file and then invokes PINE,...., craaassssshhh. It dumps its >stack because no MAIL.MAI file is found. This used to happen with another 3rd party mail implementation we used. We fixed it by sending a mail to every new user, as they were registered, using of course VMS "MAIL". Sometimes the stupid solutions are the best! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 16:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20234; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09830; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:06:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09824; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:06:31 -0800 Received: by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.6.9/UCD3.0) id QAA29397; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:06:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Blanchard X-Sender: fzblanch@rocky To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there knows? meb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 16:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21921; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:52:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10911; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:45:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10905; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:45:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZpRk-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swanger@mail.auburn.edu (David Swanger) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Message-Id: References: <3f92v2$lkq@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> <3fa00j$pct@news.asu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:31:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: chander@imap1.asu.edu wrote: : Broddi Reyr Hansen (brh@rhi.hi.is) wrote: : : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, : : say few screen fills and then del it!!! : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same result. My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a work-around? I would appreciate any help you can send me! -- David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL swangdb@mail.auburn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 17:20:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23629; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:20:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11720; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11708; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:10:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZpl7-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs3mh3aw@maccs.dcss.McMaster.CA (Dyck NH) Subject: Re: Pine and procmail Message-Id: <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> References: <3gmjgo$oht@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 18:29:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? <<< Caution Signature File Under Construction >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the Terminal of: * u9108588@mcmaster.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:09:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26774; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:09:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13633; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:05:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13625; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:05:22 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:03:38 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:03:37 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Marc Blanchard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there > knows? meb > Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with 2-Byte support). Works fine....except there is no way to set the charset to something standard....since there isn't a standard for Chinese in MIME. (Since the last time I checked.) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:16:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26935; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:16:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13711; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:10:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZrjr-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 18:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Signature files at bottom Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 17:15:57 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , Steven Feinholz wrote: >I have set the signature-at-bottom in my Configuration Setup and >have experienced the following: > >1) When Replying to an email message while including the original > text, the signature file gets appended to the end of the > email. > >2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature > file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the > bottom of the entire email message. > >Is this the normal operation of "signature-at-bottom" or is this >a bug? I would say it is. When you are replying to e-mail, the quoted stuff is considered to be part of your message, and hence the bottom of the message is at the end of the quoted text. However, when you are forwarding stuff, your message is what you add to clarify things, and usually implies that you are not making changes to the message being forwarded, so your message ends before the included text. - frank -- ********************************************************************** * You may be right. I may be crazy. But it just may be a lunatic * * you're looking for. - Billy Joel * *************************** Frank Yao, fyao@csclub.uwaterloo.ca ****** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:38:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27585; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:38:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14071; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:33:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14065; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:33:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZs32-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 2 Feb 1995 02:59:00 GMT Message-Id: <3gphpk$95b@nntp.crl.com> References: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: THANKS MIKE!!!! Best, John * FREE shareware & ICONS & CD-ROM disks/hardware/PAL/SECAM video catalog * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 20:36:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28743; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14954; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:31:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14948; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:31:48 -0800 Received: from crl10.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA18286 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:31:08 -0800 Received: by crl10.crl.com id AA08188 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:32:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: JDulaney To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael C. Newell wrote: > Try > sort < input-file > sorted-file > > "man sort" will give you details on how sort works... > Mike -------------------- Mike, thanks. I also read your note in the newsgroup and have thoroughly read the man sort file but I still have a problem. I know you're prob. very busy but if you know where I can go? The prob. is that I have first lines followed by indented lines. They are CD-ROM titles with a few lines of descriptions and price. Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description. Any hope? Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem. Best, John * FREE shareware & ICONS & CD-ROM disks/hardware/PAL/SECAM video catalog * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 20:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28926; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:45:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15084; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15076; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:40:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZtAP-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajdevoir@southern.edu (AJDevoir) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Date: 2 Feb 1995 01:06:38 GMT Message-Id: <3gpb6u$1e7@news.southern.edu> References: <3f92v2$lkq@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> <3fa00j$pct@news.asu.edu> Status: O X-Status: David Swanger (swanger@mail.auburn.edu) wrote: > chander@imap1.asu.edu wrote: > : Broddi Reyr Hansen (brh@rhi.hi.is) wrote: > : : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, > : : say few screen fills and then del it!!! > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the > : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. [snip] > communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a > Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, > when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". [snip] > -- > David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL > swangdb@mail.auburn.edu I had the same problem at one time. However with a little creative trial and error, I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6". Good luck. -- Armand Devoir ajdevoir@ns.southern.edu file://ns.southern.edu/people/ajdevoir/www/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 21:08:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29318; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:08:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15386; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:01:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15380; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:01:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZtUw-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 01:08:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: In fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Chip Old) writes: >What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should >appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages >in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", >even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit (Reply) you'll get the "+". Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. -- T | Christopher Curtis | There are two rules to follow | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | to ensure success in life: | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | Rule 1: Don't tell people | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N everything you know. | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 22:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00784; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:15:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16301; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:10:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16295; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:10:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZuX7-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Does Pine 3.91 have News Authentication? Message-Id: Date: 31 Jan 95 20:52:41 GMT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.91 does not support NNTP authentication. Yes, there are plans to support it... eventually. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 25 Jan 1995, Jim Gerland wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 JAN 1995 13:25:44 GMT > From: Jim Gerland > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Does Pine 3.91 have News Authentication? > > > If not, is there plans to add it? > Thanks, > > -- > Jim Gerland - Manager, Network Information Services University at Buffalo > Academic Services, Computing & Information Technology Buffalo, NY 14260 > 716.645.3557 Work 716.645.3734 FAX > gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu URL: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~gerland > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 22:30:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01014; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:30:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16592; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16586; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:25:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZuog-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:34:25 GMT Message-Id: <3gpjs1$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. AJDevoir with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 01:06:38 GMT: + > How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, + > say few screen fills and then del it!!! + > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press + > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). + I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that + sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6". When all else fails, esc esc ^ (twice escape key, shift6) works for me, even for ^c, esc esc c works. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:16:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01931; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:16:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17180; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17174; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZvTO-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Filtering incoming mail... Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 00:28:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: How do I go about filtering incoming mail? I'd like to have a few inboxes, and have pine put the mail into the appropriate box (based on what's in the subject). This *IS* possible, correct? [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:16:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01952; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:16:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17085; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17079; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZvTB-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Mailing lists... Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 00:26:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to add an email address to a mailing list in pine? I know you can "^T"ake the address while reading a message, but I'd like to "^T"ake the address and add it to a mailing list. Can it be done? It's a pain to have to manually add people to mailing lists... [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17680; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:54:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17674; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:54:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZw5y-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Home directory Message-Id: <3gmai5$5j4@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> Date: 31 Jan 95 21:37:09 GMT References: <3dt0gr$8b2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Ray McAllister wrote: ->This is a repost. I did not get any answers. Hope it isnt too much to=20 ->ask. Will appreciate any help for a newcomer (2=AB months on the net). ->Thank you. -> ->On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Ray McAllister wrote: -> ->> =09Question 1, Please help! How can I access or see what is in my "Home= ->=20 ->> Directory"? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on either hard drive, to se= ->e ->> what is in it; to use it, or to delete it. Thanks a million. ->> =09Question 2, Where or how can I get a manual for Pine? ->> =09Question 3, When I go into rz to bring a pre-existing file into=20 ->> my home directory I sometimes end up with the Procom 2 screen telling me= ->=20 ->> Port in use, yet I have hung up. How can I get rid of Port in use and=20 ->> continue with Procom and pine without closing everything back to C:? ->> =09Ray McAllister mcallist@gate.net ->>=20 -- Ananda M. Kar | (H) 458 - 9754 | URL : http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~ananda ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:21:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03554; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:21:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17950; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:13:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17944; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:13:25 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:11:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:11:02 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > In fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Chip Old) writes: > > >What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should > >appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages > >in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", > >even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming > > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit > (Reply) you'll get the "+". > > Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. Sorry, I believe you are mistaken. If you look in the help for the Index screen you will see... o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent directly to your account, your copy is not part of a cc: or a mailing list. What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account name. If they match then you will get the "+". Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03614; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:23:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18114; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:16:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18108; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:16:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZwTQ-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: Bounce Command in Pine 3.91 Date: 2 Feb 1995 06:25:37 GMT Message-Id: <3gptt1$76j@everest.pinn.net> Status: O X-Status: We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that it had to be resent? TIA, -- Thomas S. Cole INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:57:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04505; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:57:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18517; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:51:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18511; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:50:57 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:48:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:48:35 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: Tom Cole Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bounce Command in Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: <3gptt1$76j@everest.pinn.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Tom Cole wrote: > We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to > the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the > other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the > misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me > if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the > other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it > will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that > it had to be resent? Did you ever think about bouncing a message to yourself to see what headers may or may not be added??? Pine adds the headers: Resent-Date: Resent-From: Resent-To: Resent-Message-Id: So, there is an indication that it was "resent". Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 02:07:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06547; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:07:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19430; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:00:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway1.DHL.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19424; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:00:01 -0800 Received: from lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by gateway1.DHL.COM id aa28280; 2 Feb 95 2:46 PST Received: from lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM with SMTP (1.36.108.7/2.03-DSI) id AA25905; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:02:32 GMT Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA08498; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 09:59:51 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 09:59:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM To: Dyck NH Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and procmail In-Reply-To: <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Dyck NH wrote: > Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? > <<< Caution Signature File Under Construction >>> The latest version of procmail can be found at any comp.sources.misc archive site or via ftp from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de in /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 04:28:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10438; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:28:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21288; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:11:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21282; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:11:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra0LN-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:17:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gpisl$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Michael A. Naud with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 1 Feb 1995 10:43:18 -0800: + I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the + laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that + you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have + one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function + keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what + terminal emulator he uses. Use the man page on 'stty' on your system for exact syntax for remapping some other(any other) key in lieu of control key. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 05:17:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11929; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:17:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22077; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:56:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22071; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:56:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra122-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:55:02 GMT Message-Id: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800: + >> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. + > + > It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' + > value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add + > instead by A to add and hit return immediately. + Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is + My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the + addressbook. Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me. What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ? + P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to + re-adjust the posting by hand. Okay. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 05:34:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12478; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:34:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22522; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:24:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from piima1.univ-mrs.fr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22516; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:24:05 -0800 Received: by piima1.univ-mrs.fr; id AA04343; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:27:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:27:17 +0100 From: Lewis Message-Id: <9502021327.AA04343@piima1.univ-mrs.fr> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine compiled for DEC Alpha OSF Status: O X-Status: I am looking for pine source appropriate to or compiled for a DEC Alpha running OSF. Thanks in advance Lewis lew@piima1.univ-mrs.fr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:23:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13663; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:23:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23273; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23267; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2CS-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: exporting multiple mesgs. Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:52:19 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 30 Jan 1995, Phillip Thomas wrote: > > I can "export" and "append" many messages (one at a time) to a single file. > > What I want to do is "export" several messages all at once, to a single file. > A 'block' of messages, if you will. > > I hope that this isn't embarrassingly simple. > Sorry, it is! Select the ones you need to export (eg ; n 1,5,17 - but there are other ways depending on the rules for selection) then type A E and they will all be exported together. > thanking you, pthomas@cyberport.net > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:23:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13698; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:23:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22941; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22935; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:06:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra27q-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: victor@Maluku.Jou.UTexas.EDU (Vic Menayang) Subject: Pico: justification? Date: 2 Feb 1995 07:44:43 -0600 Message-Id: <3gqnkb$r3@Maluku.Jou.UTexas.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I can't figure out how pico's justification works. When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes pico to justify the paragraphs. This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac. Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my return key as Ctrl-J. Or, is there anyway to disable pico's justification altogether? Thanks, -vic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:30:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13891; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:30:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23015; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23009; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2EN-00038QC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:59:44 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to reply anywhere else. I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:32:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13976; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:32:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23458; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:26:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23452; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:26:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2Sk-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:19:30 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 31 Jan 1995, Jack Bryans wrote: > Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp > port? No, there isn't. The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have a seemingly "idle" NNTP session. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:06:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16423; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:06:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24971; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:57:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24965; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:57:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra3pq-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@sun.lclark.edu (Joshua Berezin) Subject: Re: Mac 7100 and Pine Message-Id: <3gn0qi$brp@sun.lclark.edu> Date: 1 Feb 95 03:57:06 GMT References: <3gj5tv$mce@catfish.valdosta.peachnet.edu> Status: O X-Status: Bill Filtz (bfiltz@grits) wrote: : Anyone having success with dialing into an internet site using a Mac 7100 : and a hayes compatible modem to emulate the VT100/102 keyboard and use : Pine? I've tried it with the ClarisWorks comm package and the Mac Comm : Center software that came with the modem. : I have ^G, ^C, ^X, and ^T working. The cursor pad, delete, and some : others don't. Also, the screen doesn't always clear, particularly when going : from the menu to the inbox folder index. I'm dialing in from a 6100 using ZTerm and it works beautifully. All commands work. The cursor pad is limited to up-cursor and down-cursor, but that's just because Pine doesn't recognize left and right to do anything. Try Zterm with ANSI or VT-10x emulation. Josh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17094; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:23:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24986; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:13:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [144.32.128.13] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24978; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:12:56 -0800 Received: from unix.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <13636-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:10:19 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA12659; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:10:08 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:09:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "Why do I want to do this?" Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command! This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail as "host xxx used invalid command yyy". Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 31 Jan 1995, Jack Bryans wrote: > > Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp > > port? > > No, there isn't. > > The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? > > Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due > to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP > clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have > a seemingly "idle" NNTP session. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:53:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18345; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:53:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25713; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tucana.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25707; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:44:20 -0800 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by tucana.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.9/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:44:13 GMT Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:44:12 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:44:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1223 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > "Why do I want to do this?" > Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command! > This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail > as "host xxx used invalid command yyy". > Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-) According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has: ... { "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1, NULL }, /* BJC 941109A: added the following line */ { "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany, NULL }, { "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1, NULL }, ... It's at about line 100 of the file. It would appear from the lack of other 941109A comments that that's the only change, but I'm not that certain. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 09:13:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20119; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:13:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26728; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:08:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26716; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:08:07 -0800 Received: from schooner (schooner.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA21349; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:04:38 EST Received: by schooner (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16060; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:07:43 EST Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 12:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@schooner To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > > Sorry, I believe you are mistaken. > > o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent You are quite correct. I haven't read the documentation since I installed the first version of PINE here. I have no idea where I came up with this. Pardon my waste of bandwidth. T | Christopher Curtis | There are two rules to follow | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | to ensure success in life: | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | Rule 1: Don't tell people | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N everything you know. | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 10:33:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24497; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:33:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28879; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28873; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6Dj-00038MC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 02:49:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group > in this article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800: > + [... description of irregular behavior of fcc and reply ...] > + My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the > + addressbook. > > Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me. > > What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ? Thanks for the hint, I set it to 'by-recipient' and now when I reply to a message sent by somebody who also happens to be in addressbook the proper fcc folder is set. But now, of course, I won't get sent-mail as a default fcc folder for people who aren't in my addressbook, I get their username as default fcc.... > > + P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to > + re-adjust the posting by hand. > > Okay. Still unquoteable. (To much space at the left margin.) tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 10:37:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24816; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:37:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28887; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from suprahwy.supra.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28881; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (smap@localhost) by suprahwy.supra.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA00991 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:26:48 -0800 Received: from a_mail.supra.com(192.203.198.11) by suprahwy via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma000974; Thu Feb 2 10:26:31 1995 Received: from altos.supra.com by a_mail.supra.com id ad23703; 2 Feb 95 10:26 PST Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Koch Reply-To: jerry@supra.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Organization: Supra Corporation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26205; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29649; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:55:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29641; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:55:50 -0800 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA01927 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:11 -0500 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.0/5.17) id AA15598; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:22 -0500 (EST) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 662 Status: O X-Status: Good morning, I am a newcomer in pine-info. I looked at the FAQ but did not find any answer to my problem. How can I configurate PINE so that my adress is Duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca and not duhaimj%terre@terre.ircm.umontreal.ca. After registering to certain mailing list I got the following when I use the mailing: You are not authorized to mail to list GOPHER-L from your duhaimj%terre@TERRE.IRCM.UMONTREAL.CA account. You might be authorized to post to the list from another of your accounts or under a slightly different .... Thank in advance for your help Johanne Duhaime ircm duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:16:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27010; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:16:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00201; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:11:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00195; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:11:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6tc-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Mac port ; who wants to try ? Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:37:54 GMT Message-Id: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Status: O X-Status: Hi, There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if I had more time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? Any suggestion is welcome Please report in comp.mail.pine too ! Guy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:20:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27272; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:20:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29955; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:06:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29948; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:06:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6or-00038MC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 2 Feb 1995 18:08:39 GMT Message-Id: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both : annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to : reply anywhere else. : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From' (which is usually the author). The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To' address. Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time. -- /~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~\/\ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\ 717 646 9338 Jonathan Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel. \/\ 646 0162 Freckles If you ever need a friend, get a dog. / / / \/\ POB602 Clyde Cats are little people in fur coats./ / /zip/ \/18610 Mom If you think education is expensive, try ignorance/. \/\ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / / / / / / \ None: My mind is temporarily out of order./___/___/___/___/___/___/____\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:07:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:07:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01377; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:53:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crystal.amath.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01369; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:53:33 -0800 Received: by crystal.amath.washington.edu (931110.SGI/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA08411; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:51:54 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern X-Sender: stern@crystal.amath.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: [Q] addressbook conversion tools Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: These questions *weren't* in the FAQ! Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert .addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my automated mailing can use my pine addresses. Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine .addressbook format? I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply. TIA, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:09:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00609; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:09:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01482; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01476; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:59:57 -0800 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa25157; 2 Feb 95 14:59 EST Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA21861; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:59:53 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] In-Reply-To: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget > about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine > for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if I had more > time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for > Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? > > Any suggestion is welcome > Please report in comp.mail.pine too ! > Guy > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? ( I have a copy of a mostly working socket interface to MacTCP that I found at NCSA. For other reasons, for the project for which I hunted that down, I ended up using the native MacTCP API. I still have an object library of it, but when I last tried to recompile it with the latest MPW, it didn't compile, and I didn't have time to look for the problem, and again a reason not to use the socket interface showed itself, so I didn't look at it again. ) [ Query cross posted to comp.sys.mac.programmer & comp.sys.mac.comm ] ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:44:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01997; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02346; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02340; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:32:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra891-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jace Crouch Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:06:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've had the same problem using pine 3.91 over a dial-up. A couple of times pine dumped me clear out to the which host? prompt on the Michnet lines, and even trashed the Michnet connection. I set the flag to "slow modem" even though I have a 14.4, and have not had a lot of problems since. Sometimes still, though, 3.91 "goes to sleep" during a compose session, and I just go and make a cup of coffee. It usually wakes up in 2-3 minutes. 3.91 is so much nicer than 3.89 that I put up with this. Maybe it's not in pine at all, but in pico? Jace From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 13:12:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04077; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02944; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:57:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anshar.shadow.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02938; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:57:41 -0800 Received: (lkadin@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id QAA09619; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:00:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Kadin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: missing header files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine netdb.h. Any suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 13:19:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04463; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:19:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03624; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03618; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra8mc-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jduche@creighton.edu (Joe Ducharme) Subject: news folders personalizing Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 95 14:53:49 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have read the help info for folders and news folders, but was wondering if anyone has accomplished the following: I can change one of my remote news folders to read UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*] and I get only the "local.*" groups. That part works. Here is my question- how do I put 2 items in the [], say local.* and morelocal.* ? I tried UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*, morelocal.*] but it thinks the comma separates another entry. I tried just a space and got another error. Is this possible? I also haven't figured out that LINES environmental variable question (it affects pine but pico defaults back to 24 lines) if anyone has that answer. laters..... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 16:12:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13063; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:12:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07951; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07945; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raBOZ-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blaw1@rain.org () Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Date: 2 Feb 1995 21:20:18 GMT Message-Id: <3griai$46u@news.rain.org> References: Status: O X-Status: Michael A. Naud (manaud@naz.edu) wrote: > I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the > laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that > you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have > one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function > keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what > terminal emulator he uses. For the MacTerminal keyboard (whatever that is), the ` (accent grave) sends an escape. Maybe two of those? -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Bruce C. Law v. (805) 639-0051 root@serious.com Serious Business d. (805) 639-0052 blaw@worf.infonet.net Easier investing research -- online. blaw1@rain.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 16:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14116; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:38:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08765; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08752; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raBwV-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrh@swl.msd.ray.com (John Howley {91404}) Subject: Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? Message-Id: References: <3fmv6r$86n@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:49:39 GMT Status: O X-Status: >Ralf Matthies (matthies@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de) wrote: >: On 19 Jan 1995, Richard Hsiung wrote: >: > I got a mail from someone with an attachment (supposedly), well, in the >: > message, it tells me I need BinHex 4.0 to convert it?! Where do I find >: > BinHex and how do I get this attachment back into file form? >: you will find BinHex on the following aFTP servers: >: ftp.demon.co.uk /simtel20/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip >: micros.hensa.ac.uk /mirrors/simtel/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip >: PS: Ask me, if you have more questions... ;-) What does Binhex do and why is it needed? I have the same problem when sending an attached file (simple text file) from a PC (with eudora) to my UNIX workstation (reading with pine). If I use pine to send and read the attached file (as a test), there is no problem. -- -- John Howley jrh@swl.msd.ray.com jrh@id.wing.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 17:07:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16267; Thu, 2 Feb 95 17:07:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09274; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:52:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09268; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:52:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raCFH-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: golden@fohnix.metronet.com (Dennis Golden) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:49:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , JDulaney wrote: > Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph >sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into >a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description. > Any hope? > Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem. > Best, John Just sorting is not going to hack it. Unix utilities such as awk or the publicly available perl should handle the task. In fact, one of the examples in the original awk book covered this. Regards, Dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:01:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19793; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:01:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11892; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11886; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEAV-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Root Guy Subject: can't select in Unix Pine 3.91!? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:09:26 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.) Any ideas? Cheers! Roby From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:02:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19828; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11774; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11768; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEC7-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Pico: justification? Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:39:10 GMT Message-Id: <3gs50e$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Vic Menayang with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 07:44:43 -0600: + I can't figure out how pico's justification works. + When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between + or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes + pico to justify the paragraphs. + This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that + I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac. + Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my + return key as Ctrl-J. Or, is there anyway to disable pico's + justification altogether? Looks like the keymappings/settings aren't set right on your mac. I use NCSA Telnet/Mac 2.6, and never had this problem. Go under Setup Keys and see if you can re-configure your keymappings. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:06:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19919; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:06:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11987; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11981; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEFM-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: 1 Feb 1995 14:36:52 -0700 Message-Id: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, OS: aix3.2.5 PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this happens? Thanks, Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:26:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20376; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:26:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12163; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12157; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:22:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEX5-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Craig Paul) Subject: Re: IMAP in this week's Communications Week - IMAP4 Message-Id: <1995Jan26.135406.83753@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 26 Jan 95 13:54:06 CST References: <3g2qiv$gf8@terminator.ncts.navy.mil> Status: O X-Status: In article <3g2qiv$gf8@terminator.ncts.navy.mil>, Paul Everitt writes: > Reading this week's (or last, I'm not sure) _Communications Week_ > magazine, I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw an article > on IMAP. Pretty succinct in content. > > --Paul Well, that's IMAP4, not IMAP2 (or bis or +). The most important question is when IMAP4 servers and clients will be available! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21111; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:49:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12639; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:42:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12633; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:42:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEsn-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Configure default savemail Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:52:30 GMT Message-Id: <3gs5pe$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Barry Landy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:53:10 +0000: + A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default + savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to + default-folder). I agree that this would be useful. Either I'm missing the point or something...isin't there a default-folder already set if you choose that option, the folder being correctly named saved-messages ? -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21419; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:01:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12831; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:55:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12825; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:55:55 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:53:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:53:34 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi..... I'm putting this on pine-info since the original question arose on this list. I tried to respond directly to Marc....but the mail bounced :-( ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- fzblanch@peseta.ucdavis.edu (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to peseta.ucdavis.edu.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 fzblanch@peseta.ucdavis.edu... User unknown Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:43:23 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Marc Blanchard Subject: Re: your mail On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > thanks for the info. unfortunately I need to be taken by the hand. the > local people here don't know what a cxterm or a vi clone is. maybe you > can tell me. thanks awfully. meb OK.... cxterm is "Chinese Xterm". It supplies an input method to accomodate the various input methods used by the Chinese. You see, each Chinese character is 2-Byte...and there are many thousand Chinese characters. To enter one Chinese character may require 3 or 4 keystrokes depending on the input method used. I think cxterm provides for 6 input methods. Three for Hanzi (Beijing) and three for BIG5 (Taiwan). It is also extensible to allow you to add on additional input methods. In addition you can type in the hex values for characters. As for a vi clone....it is simply a program that has all of the same functions of vi except that it is modified to handle 2-Byte characters and 8-bit inputs properly. Let me know if you have additional questions.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:22:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21961; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13044; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13038; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raFSN-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Pine and procmail Date: 2 Feb 1995 15:45:26 GMT Message-Id: <3gqumm$dlb@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3gmjgo$oht@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Status: O X-Status: Dyck NH wrote: >Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? The latest version is v3.10. So you might try using archie to find something nearby. In case that doesn't work: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). "My name is Smith, the P is not pronounced." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:26:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22123; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:26:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13216; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13210; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raFWn-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgittis@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (R.G.) Subject: PINE Return Receipt - HOW? Date: 2 Feb 1995 08:53:00 -0800 Message-Id: <3gr2lc$dhi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Status: O X-Status: I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this, please inform. Thank you. -- IPPON! Sho Ari!! Omigoto, Hattori Hanzo!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 21:14:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23086; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13663; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13657; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:03:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raG3t-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Bug (ID ZH8IY): Random Chance or Deus ex Machina? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:16:27 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine 3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought you should know... :-) Ian Ollmann ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = iano, full = Ian Russell Ollmann home = /home/iano home_dir= /home/iano hostname= wong localdom= wong userdom= NULL maildom= wong cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano msgmap: tot=1, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq4, size=65x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann user-id : iano nntp-server : 137.131.120.6 inbox-path : /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[] default-fcc : /home/iano/mail/sent-mail-Feb95 postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : /home/iano/mail/Feb95 signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu printer : lpr -Pnec standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/iano/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann nntp-server : 137.131.120.6 inbox-path : $MAIL folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[] default-fcc : ~/mail/sent-mail-$MONYR read-message-folder : ~/mail/$MONYR feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu printer : lpr -Pnec last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 21:40:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23539; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:40:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14204; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14196; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:31:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raGSw-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains) Subject: Re: Configure default savemail Date: 3 Feb 1995 04:34:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gsbp1$839@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default : savemail (ie the one you get if you have the : saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder). : I agree that this would be useful. : Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, : University of Cambridge Computing Service : Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 So, change it ! DearOldDad -- /~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~\/\ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\ 717 646 9338 Jonathan Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel. \/\ 646 0162 Freckles If you ever need a friend, get a dog. / / / \/\ POB602 Clyde Cats are little people in fur coats./ / /zip/ \/18610 Mom If you think education is expensive, try ignorance/. \/\ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / / / / / / \ None: My mind is temporarily out of order./___/___/___/___/___/___/____\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:14:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24281; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:14:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14715; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:07:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14709; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:07:15 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:04:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:04:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID ZH8IY): Random Chance or Deus ex Machina? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same > time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine > 3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be > reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd > oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless > taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought > you should know... Not so strange....and not a bug. What screen comes up would depend on where you are in pine and what is in the paste buffer for your mouse. Just for fun, after reading you message I moved my mouse into the pine window (main menu) and depressed all three buttons. I ended up in a compose session with an address from my address book in the To: field. Why? Well, my mouse paste buffer contained thac. In the main menu the "t" and the "h" are undefined. So, the "a", "c" key strokes were taken...... So, no mystery....and no bug. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:22:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24479; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:22:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14654; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:16:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14648; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:16:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHD9-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysop@mome-raths.iac.net (March Hare) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 (!) Message-Id: <2f31aa64.4d4f4d45@mome-raths.iac.net> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 1995 23:00:36 -0500 References: <5f8_9501200953@dialis.xs4all.nl> <2f22a733.4d4f4d45@mome-raths.iac.net> Status: O X-Status: I earlier wrote: : >BTW - I picked up on the OS/2 groups that a port of pico is : >available ftp, which I'm using right now to write this message. : >It works pretty well. I'm planning on using it for accessing : >UUCP news through my BBS. Now, I just have to work ou John McGing (jmcging@access.digex.net) wrote: : Is this on hobbes? Where? No, it is available from abrown.student.harvard.edu. It is "beta," but I haven't run into any serious problems yet. In fact, the only problem I had was trying to reply to a post one time where the poster did not put any 's in his post at all. John -- --- Mome Raths BBS sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` ^. .^ (513)523-7887 ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD ( @ ) Oxford, Ohio ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:26:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24556; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:26:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14919; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:21:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14913; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:21:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHL2-00038SC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan McCoy Subject: PINE FOR CDC EP/IX Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 00:44:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am running on a CDC Mips box using EP/IX by CDC. Is this a version of Pico and Pine that I can run? I have tried to fin one and can't, not even on cac.washgton.edu. Any help would be appreciated. Please send email to mccoy@cs.widener.edu. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:58:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25302; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:58:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15108; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:51:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15102; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:51:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHji-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: 2 Feb 1995 22:46:49 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Mark Crispin's message of Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:19:30 -0800 Status: O X-Status: In article Mark Crispin writes: > The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? Well, getting along w/the world as we find it includes placating bnews, cnews, & INN, at the least. INN has never recognized NOOP & logs every one of them. While we're ok for now for spool space, we're hurting for / space, which, for us, includes /usr/local/news & all its logs. A days supply of NOOPs takes over 10K of log space. Sure, it can be argued that INN should be changed to accommodate every new newsreading client that comes along. I'd rather have all s'ware that speaks or adds nntp get along w/INN as it is. INN's timeouts are generous. W/all the PC & mac rewsreaders on our net, we see a few timeouts logged. But they are trivially minor compared to the NOOP logging. Jack From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 23:11:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25561; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:11:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15494; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:04:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15482; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:04:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHvr-00038rC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:41:05 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?... ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote: > One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > reply anywhere else. > I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 23:25:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25865; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:25:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15484; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:18:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15478; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:18:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raIEH-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:44:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Date: 2 FEB 1995 12:07:09 -0800 > From: Steven D. Majewski > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] > > On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > > > There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget > > about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine > > for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if > I had more > > time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for > > Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? > > Actually, there are several Mac IMAP clients. Here is an excerpt from the list in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Client MIME? Source/Vendor Status ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MACINTOSH ECSMail Mac Yes ISA Corp. 2.1 Alpha (I think 3.x is in Beta) Mail Drop Yes Baylor U. Beta MacMS No Stanford U. Obsolete Mailstrom 1.05 No Stanford U. Released, but buggy on some Macs Mailstrom 2.0x Yes Adam Treister In development POPmail No UMinn Uses POP paradigm; deletes mail Siren Mail Yes Siren Software Planned product TWG Pathways No Wollongong Released Zmail Yes Zcode IMAP support Planned > > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) > One of the Pine Team members did a little preliminary look at doing a Mac port and was basing it on Mint. But he dropped that in favor of a MachTen port, which is complete and in Pine 3.91. > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? > Yes, c-client works on the Mac. -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 00:07:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26955; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:07:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16312; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16306; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:01:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raIpu-00038PC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ee3cmk@bath.ac.uk (Chris King) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Message-Id: References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 23:10:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: How about having the TAB-completion on the ^R (include-file) option? :-) -- ~(:> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 02:52:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01064; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:52:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18323; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:41:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18317; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:41:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raLMT-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail .forward Date: 3 Feb 1995 01:07:01 GMT Message-Id: <3grvjo$k8v@pandora.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Can anyone help me with procmail? I'm about to give up on it. I thought I had the correct .forward file, but apparently not. Everything else seems to work ok. If I do: procmail < test.msg where test.msg is a message I sent myself containing all of the proper headers and everything, procmail works perfectly. But when I send it to myself using Pine, one of two things happens. Either the mail never arrives or it does not get sorted like it is supposed to. I'm pretty sure I just need the correct .forward file for SunOS. I have read the SunOS man file. It says: For instance, to invoke the vacation program, user js creates a ~/.forward file that contains the line: \js, "|/usr/ucb/vacation js" so that one copy of the message is sent to the user, and another is piped into the vacation program. I have tried: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward file set world readable. Any ideas? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Tracy Reed |AOL is lame. Get a shell account! San Diego State Univ. |The Pentium FDIV bug is blown WAY out of proportion! Aerospace Engineering |Don't even SAY "Info. Superhighway" in my presence! treed@rohan.sdsu.edu |IRC-Maelcum http://rohan.sdsu.edu/home/treed/ (D)inner not ready: (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)izza? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 02:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01135; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:55:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18557; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:48:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18545; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:48:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raLVl-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Barry Landy) Subject: Configure default savemail Message-Id: Date: 2 Feb 95 15:53:10 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder). I agree that this would be useful. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:03:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04806; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:03:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20309; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:55:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20303; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:55:10 -0800 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13715; Fri, 3 Feb 95 20:54:33 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 20:54:32 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: procmail .forward To: "Tracy R. Reed" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3grvjo$k8v@pandora.sdsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote: > I have tried: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" > > as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes > straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward > file set world readable. Any ideas? Try: "|exec /home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail -Y #treed" Actually, I think your biggest problem is the treed v.s. #treed. Without the # procmail tries to treat treed as an argument. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05197; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:20:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20483; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20477; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNST-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu (Joyce Y. Wong) Subject: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? Date: 26 Jan 1995 17:09:49 -0800 Message-Id: <3g9h4t$dng@abalone.ucsb.edu> Status: O X-Status: how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there? which configuration item is it? i normally read news with trn thanks joyce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:25:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05368; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:25:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20546; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20540; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNTn-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 18:44:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) A fellow by the name of Chris Newman at CMU gave me a package called NiftyTerm which essentially is a VT100 emulator + Telnet application. My thinking about a Mac Pine (PineApple?) would be to excise the Telnet code, and graft c-client, Pine, and Pico in its place. > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? c-client is ported to the Mac, and mtest runs just fine. I have a nice MacTCP interface for c-client that I wrote myself that (among other things) runs a mini event loop so even though it's blocked on TCP I/O you can still manipulate windows, switch to other apps, abort the current app, etc. Unlike Mailstrom's TCP code, my code works. I, like many others, have been very disappointed with Mailstrom, and expelled it from my Mac's hard disk some time ago. Mail Drop, on the other hand, works quiet well, if a bare-bones IMAP client is alright. I have higher hopes of seeing Mail Drop get dolled up than I have of seeing a usable Mailstrom. The main thing you would need to do in c-client on the Mac is have some sort of monitor/throttle on memory use so c-client can cache, but purge the cache (via mail_gc() calls) as necessary when memory becomes low. This idea was originally going to be used in PC-Pine, but memory is so tight in the 640K limit that we ended up not caching at all. On the Mac, I'd give it a meg or two of free memory to play around in. I've thought of writing my own native GUI interface for the Mac, but I have plenty of other things to do. What's more, my GUIs tend to reflect the fact that I'm an engineer, not an artist -- hyper-functional, but not necessarily pretty, with button panels from hell. I've thought of writing one anyway, but it'd probably be in VisualWorks, so it'd not be very helpful for the general Mac community. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:30:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05463; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20603; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:23:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20597; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:23:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNdJ-00038QC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 18:54:47 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Barry Cornelius wrote: > According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing > it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has: > ... > { "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1, > NULL }, > /* BJC 941109A: added the following line */ > { "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany, > NULL }, > { "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1, > NULL }, > ... What a great idea! Every Internet protocol should have a NOOP command. Seriously, this is a bug in the NNTP protocol. We *did* have timeout problems before this NOOP pinging was put in. I think that I used to have a HELP command, and I got complaints that the entire help transcript was being logged (so the NOOP was an improvement). As far as servers which obsessively log commands sent to them, and the consequent loss of disk space -- are you aware that you have given every cracker on the Internet instructions of how to hit you with a denial of service attack? It's important that any logging which you have installed is careful not to allow randoms to fill up your disk. In particular, for non-authenticated connections, you should be *very* restricted in what events you log. If you log authentication failures, you need to have a throttle in order to limit the number of such events that can happen in a particular interval. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05823; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:45:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20772; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20766; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNyJ-00038UC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: can't select in Unix Pine 3.91!? Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:03:47 GMT Message-Id: <3gs6ej$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Root Guy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:09:26 -0700: + Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news + section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad + As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not + supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.) + Any ideas? Perhaps by setting the enable-aggregate-command-set option in the Setup/Config screen would resolve this. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:47:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05866; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:47:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20809; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20803; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNwK-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: missing header files Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:13:09 GMT Message-Id: <3gs705$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Lee Kadin with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 13:01:58 -0800: + I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine + netdb.h. Any suggestions? Pine3.91 has been already ported to SCO Unix. Here's the URL: ftp://camco1.celestial.com/pub/sco-ports/unix/ -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 06:43:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07500; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:43:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21562; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:30:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21550; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:30:40 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA08398; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:30:32 EST Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark, I usually find your response to be reasonable and well thought out. In this case I am in doubt. It seems to me that there are two issues and I am not clear about what you are saying about them. The first is a protocol issue. Nntp has a well defined protocol specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC. But Rich Salz is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision. So the question is whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs. This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct. The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 06:43:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07521; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:43:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21709; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21703; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:35:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raOnf-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 92004010@lambton.on.ca (D Kenstavicius) Subject: testing Date: 3 Feb 1995 07:35:19 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: teasing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 07:52:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09043; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:52:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22749; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:44:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22743; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:43:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raQ8G-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcelo@ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias) Subject: smaller pine binary Date: 3 Feb 1995 12:39:03 GMT Message-Id: <3gt857$gq9@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to generate a smaller pine binary? Mine is about 1.5M (stripped)... Is it possible to not have the news-reading stuff compiled in? Thanks for any info. -- -Marcelo. Marcelo Zacarias - CIAGRI/USP Divisao de Redes & Hardware /* MIME, ISO-Latin-2 */ marcelo@ciagri.usp.br /* All extremists should be taken out and shot */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:18:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09922; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:18:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23128; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:07:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lcco.u-strasbg.fr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23122; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:07:22 -0800 Received: by lcco.u-strasbg.fr (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA02003; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:01:57 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 17:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Guy BRAND Reply-To: guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr To: "Steven D. Majewski" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mac Port... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Comment: Centre de Recherche Chimie References: Universite Louis Pasteur Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Was : Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) Dunno ! Has anyone informations on that ? > > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? It's in the pine 3.91 package, under the c-client directory, here's is some piece of it : /* * Program: Operating-system dependent routines -- Macintosh version * * Author: Mark Crispin * 6158 Lariat Loop NE * Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2098 * Internet: MRC@Panda.COM * * Date: 26 January 1992 * Last Edited: 14 September 1994 * * Copyright 1994 by Mark Crispin * */ /* This is a totally new operating-system dependent module for the Macintosh, * written using THINK C on my Mac PowerBook-100 in my free time. * Unlike earlier efforts, this version requires no external TCP library. It * also takes advantage of the Map panel in System 7 for the timezone. */ Guy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:20:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10056; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:20:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23170; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:09:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay2.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23164; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:08:56 -0800 Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQybmu08817; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:08:34 -0500 Received: from cate.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:08:54 -0500 Received: from cate2.UUCP (root@localhost) by cate.uucp (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id HAA00375 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 07:32:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:25:48 +24000 From: Vincent Cate Subject: Pine as a BBS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using the Unix Pine 3.89 as the shell for dial in users. My hope is that users can only get/send email or netnews. I like Pine a lot, it is really good for new users (all we have here in Anguilla). I have some questions. First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine. Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on the Unix machine except for their folders. I noticed the "-r" restricted flag. This is kind of what I am after, but I want the users to still have folders and be able to send mail. I may just modify that a bit. Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.) Thanks, -- Vince From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:31:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10413; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:31:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23306; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23300; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:17:39 -0800 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA23663 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:32 -0800 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA26111 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul J. Kossick" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Installation Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings, Can I get instructions for decompressing, compiling, and installing pine on a Pyramid OSx system? I realise this may be a tall order, but I'm starting from scratch here, and just trying to get a usable mail program running (the one we have now is horrible!). Thank you. -Paul J. Kossick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 09:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14035; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:53:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25634; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:49:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25628; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:49:10 -0800 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (knute@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA00979 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:49:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: "Robert Mann Packaging Co." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Wyse60 Support In-Reply-To: <3g3o90$lt9@garlic.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: > Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I > suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not > working inside Pine ... > > It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses > for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or > do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in??? > > Anybody ever run into this? Oh yes. Our solution (which we haven't implemented yet) is to make the Wyse60's ansi. On our system you would set the TERM variable to wyse60ak and do a tset. It doesn't fix everything (PgUp and PgDn don't work for instance) but it's a start. Be careful! If your other packages are expecting non-ansi keyboards you'll need to undo what you did above. Also, if you flip from session to session, you may wind up with the wrong keyboard in the wrong program. Some day we will make all our programs talk ansi, but for now I just use the control keys. Other people have mini-scripts that take them into and out of ansi as they go in and out of pine, but watch out for task switching! ---Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS, Inc. or knute@teleport.com CompuServe: 72144,1646 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 11:22:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18784; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:22:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27548; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27542; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:14:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raTNn-00038QC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hlavaty@panix.com (Arthur Hlavaty) Subject: Address Book Problems Date: 3 Feb 1995 11:16:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3gtks3$o9g@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: When I ask pine to print out my address book, it skips a big chunk of stuff in the middle. Deleting the item where it began to skip does not help. -- Arthur D. Hlavaty hlavaty@panix.com Church of the SuperGenius In Wile E. We Trust From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:28:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21816; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:28:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29497; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:24:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vcc7.langara.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29489; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:24:25 -0800 Received: by vcc7.langara.bc.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA05653; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:23:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:23:21 -0800 (PST) From: Diane Bradley Reply-To: Diane Bradley Subject: french accents in unix-aix-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have read the fact sheet by Richard Shima at Cleveland Freenet and gather that it is not easy to make French accents print out. However has anyone made them print in unix-aix-pine(Korn shell). I have posted several messages to francophones and have received a suggestion to try to get some free Eudora software. Suggestions from anyone working on the same type of system are most welcome. We use character based workstations, not windows at the moment. Appended is a message containing other info someone sent me for c shell. Could this be made to work in k shell and if so how? Diane |\^/| Diane Bradley - dbradley@langara.bc.ca _|\| |/|_ Langara College \ / 100 West 49th Avenue <____ ____> Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2Z6, Canada | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comme toi je viens de me battre avec ma station pour lui faire afficher les accents. Je viens de gagner la bataille. Sur un Sun en Solaris 2 j'ai mis setenv LANG fr setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1 /usr/bin/stty -istrip cs8 dans mes fichiers d'environnement .cshrc ou .login. Ca semble marcher egalement sans la derniere ligne. Ca marchait sur la console, mais pas dans Openwindows. Pour que ca marche en Openwindows il faut avoir SETDISPLAYSCREEN() { DISPLAY=${BASEDISPLAY}.$1 if winsysck x11 ; then : else echo No display available for screen $1 exit 1 fi eval `svenv -env` } dans le fichier .openwin-init. Ca ne marchait pas tant que je n'avais pas la ligne "eval `svenv -env`". Pour AIX je ne peux rien dire. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22768; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29981; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:44:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29975; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raUpV-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kolsam@csulb.edu (Kolsam Mel Keo) Subject: Need help with signature! Date: 3 Feb 1995 17:01:15 GMT Message-Id: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my .signature file appends at the bottom? Please reply me. Thanks. Mel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23100; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29845; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:54:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29839; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:54:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raUzL-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: olin@cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson) Subject: Do you use PC-PINE with PC-NFS? Date: 3 Feb 1995 16:57:59 GMT Message-Id: <3gtnan$2mf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who has managed to get PC-PINE 3.91 working with PC-NFS 5.1 (DOS 6.00). I'd like to know how you did it! Rather than going into a lot of detail here, suffice it to say that pine cannot find the inbox (it gives "[Host not found: xxxxx]"). I can connect to the host just fine from all other applications, and can successfully connect to the IMAP server ("telnet xxxx 143"). Pine: no go. -steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Phone: (607) 255 5573 Olin Hall, Cornell University FAX: (607) 255 9166 Ithaca NY 14853 "Time is just one damn thing after another" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 13:29:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24527; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:29:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01131; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:24:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01125; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:24:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raVTY-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uredfire@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey A. Striek) Subject: EWAN telnet for Winsock and PINE Date: 3 Feb 1995 20:31:34 GMT Message-Id: <3gu3r6$1aa@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi folks- Just have one question concerning EWAN telnet for Winsock, and PINE. A user tried to print an e-mail message from his account (which uses pine), through EWAN Telnet, a Winsock App. However, the print job didn't go through. Instead, EWAN or PINE erased the e-mail message. Does anyone have any insight concerning this problem? If so, I would really appreciate a response. TIA! Jeff redfire@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu -- | Jeffrey A. Striek | redfire@beauty.mcl.ucsb.edu | University of | | Computer Tech./ | uredfire@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu | California at | | SysOp | jstriek@envirolink.org | Santa Barbara | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 14:18:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26244; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:18:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01794; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:09:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01788; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:09:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raW8R-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nguyen@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (TT Nguyen (Economics)) Subject: [PICO] Going beyond column 72 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:12:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin beyond 72 columns? The reason I need to go beyond 72 columns is that I'm sending commands to a listserver which somehow does not recognize the usual continuation characters &. At the moment, I use VI to prepare the files and then send them off either by ELM or MAIL. Othertimes, I use PINE to read my usual mails. A little bit cumbersome! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 15:18:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28999; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:18:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03636; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03630; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:07:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raX1u-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yku00401@rufous.yorku.ca (Ilan Graifer) Subject: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:46:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, but I wasn't successful in doing so. I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the patches. Thanks Ilan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 17:58:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07065; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:58:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07641; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:55:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07635; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:55:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raZgS-00038eC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Force Subject: Qmodem and "attached-to-ansi" Printing Problem Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 19:50:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y" (attached-to-ansi print) function. Since I use TELIX, I'm not that familiar with Qmodem. Does anyone know if it's possible to configure Qmodem to recognize these ansi escape sequences. If it can't be done then I'll get him to switch to TELIX but I'm trying to save him the agony of beginning yet another learning curve. Many thanks in advance. Eric ====================================================================== | Have a Great Day! | Challenging Crossword Puzzles via Email | | Eric Force | New Puzzle Daily. For Information: | | eforce@acy.digex.net | --> finger xword@acy.digex.net <-- | ====================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 21:06:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11248; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:06:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10599; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:01:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10593; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:01:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0racZu-00038xC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 20:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Holder Subject: How can I demo Pc-Pine when not networked? Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:21:39 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I teach introductory classes to students using e-mail for the first time all over our campus (15,000+ students). Many times the class rooms that I visit are not networked. Using a laptop and LCD Projector, I can run a powerpoint slide show and then demo PCPINE (which looks almost identical to pine under unix) except that I can't seem to compose due to the fact that it looks for an imap server. Is there any way to fake it so that it thinks I can compose? (I really don't want to send anything - just show students how pine works.) Any help will be appreciated! Randy Holder _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Randy V. Holder Phone: (501) 575-2905 Electronic Mail Support Specialist Fax: (501) 575-4753 Lotus 1-2-3 Support Email: Rholder@comp.uark.edu University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3091 weeks, 15 hours, > 16 minutes, 51 seconds _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 21:41:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11979; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:41:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10447; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:35:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10441; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:35:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rad7F-000390C; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: Need help with signature! In-Reply-To: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 04:15:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote: > Date: 3 FEB 1995 17:01:15 GMT > From: Kolsam Mel Keo > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Need help with signature! > > > Hi, > > How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my > .signature file appends at the bottom? > > Please reply me. Thanks. > > Mel > > if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in you home directory [0m-- [7mThe above is a result of random neuron activity in the writer's brain. [0m [7m \\\/// [0m / _ _ \ [7m (| (.)(.) |) [0m+---------------------oOOo- () -oOOo---------------------------------+ [7m......| |......................................POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY. [0m......| |.............__ ....__......................... Computer Eng. 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[7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 22:40:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13165; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:40:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11804; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:35:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11798; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:35:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rae3A-000391C; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@fast.net Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: 4 Feb 1995 02:30:53 GMT Message-Id: <3guost$ci6@ns.fast.net> References: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: > hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) writes: > OS: aix3.2.5 > PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 > > When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long > imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make > it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our > environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this > happens? I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the "Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message, then quit and restart Pine. Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a previous post here yielded no suggestions. Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem? Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 23:46:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14343; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:46:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12692; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12686; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:45 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14818; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 23:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: roland@fast.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long In-Reply-To: <3guost$ci6@ns.fast.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Are either of you using an alternate-editor? When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping" the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so far we don't have a good solution for it. -teg On 4 Feb 1995 roland@fast.net wrote: > > hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) writes: > > OS: aix3.2.5 > > PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 > > > > When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long > > imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make > > it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our > > environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this > > happens? > > I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an > extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an > error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". > > Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the > "Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message, > then quit and restart Pine. > > Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a > previous post here yielded no suggestions. > > Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem? > > Roland > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 01:30:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16684; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:30:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13442; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13436; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:25:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ragje-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail problems Date: 1 Feb 1995 20:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <3gorsg$bro@pandora.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" And my .procmailrc file is: PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended :0: * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? -- Tracy Reed Aerospace Engineering San Diego State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 03:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19400; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:42:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15756; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:35:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15750; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:35:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raik2-00038MC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! Message-Id: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 09:27:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" And my .procmailrc file is: PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended :0: * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? -- Tracy Reed Aerospace Engineering San Diego State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 06:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23010; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:32:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17195; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:24:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17189; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:24:39 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10211 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:24:17 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:24:17 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: TT Nguyen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [PICO] Going beyond column 72 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, TT Nguyen wrote: > I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps > wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off > that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin > beyond 72 columns? Hi, try "pico -w". Bye. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 07:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24039; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:36:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17938; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:31:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17932; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:31:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ramOi-00038FC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Master of Wonder) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Message-Id: References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 08:33:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Sorry, but I agree with Glenn. Having to take my fingers off the home keys is a major reason why I don't use pine unless I'm forced to. - Andy Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : On 23 Jan 1995, Glenn Leavell wrote: : > 1) In INDEX mode, allow the 'k' and 'j' keys to be used to move the current : > pointer up and down (j key would only function like this if : > jump short cut were turned on). This convention can be : > found in vi, Elm, Gopher, and other utilities, so it makes things : > somewhat consistent. : > : I think this is a dreadful idea. It of course harks back to long dead : terminals which had arrows engraved on those keys, accessed, I think, in : ESCAPE mode. : As someone who teaches Pine, its transparency is a major virtue, and : those places where this breaks down (like the dreadful Y for prYnt) : cause problems; when teaching it is wonderful for A to be Add, C compose : and so on. Previous and Next are enough alternatives to up-arrow and : down-arrow, thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 08:19:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24641; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:19:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18450; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:16:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18444; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:16:03 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03623; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:15:40 +0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 774 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit > (Reply) you'll get the "+". > > Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. No, that can't be the problem. Some non-reply messages addressed to me get the "+" flag, others don't. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 08:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24817; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:30:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18575; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:27:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18569; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:27:35 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03679; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:27:16 +0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:27:16 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1734 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left > Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account > name. If they match then you will get the "+". That can't be it. I get mail addressed to: Francis Old Francis E. Old Chip Old Francis "Chip" Old The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not. > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system > call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account > on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will > show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to > Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that > it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com, so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail addressed directly to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up on cdc.com with the "+" flag. That's how it works for me, at least. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:28:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28310; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:28:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21785; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21779; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:22:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rapzo-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: procmail problems! ARGH! Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 10:34:23 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote: > I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to > mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a > SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" You need to have a # in front of your username, otherwise 'treed' is treated like an argument for frocmail (which doesn't exist): "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed" On the system I'm on this syntax works fine: "|IFS=' ' && exec /home/ma/csgrad1/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #treed" hth, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:43:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28682; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21237; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:40:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21231; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:40:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (corrigan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA06757; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:39:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199502041939.LAA06757@weber.ucsd.edu> To: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: procmail problems In-Reply-To: Your message of "01 Feb 1995 20:45:04 +0000." <3gorsg$bro@pandora.sdsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <6753.791926798.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 11:39:58 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Status: O X-Status: The form you have is telling procmail to look for a procmail rcfile with the filename "treed" Try: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed" > Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Summary: > Keywords: > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] > > I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to > mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a > SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" > > And my .procmailrc file is: > > PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists > DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional > LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended > > :0: > * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu > from_me > > :0 > * ^Subject:.*Flame > /dev/null > > I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put > all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the > forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I > checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I > think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting > anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. > I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the > mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? > > -- > Tracy Reed > Aerospace Engineering > San Diego State University > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:55:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28945; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:55:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21503; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:53:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21497; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:53:10 -0800 Received: from [199.218.192.7] (bach.stark.k12.oh.us [199.218.192.7]) by bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (8.6.9/A/UX 3.1) with SMTP id LAA04279 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:52:58 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 14:53:08 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmb@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (Judy Birmingham) Status: O X-Status: I just ftp'd pine3.91, and I see the "build" file will compile pine for ultrix, next, sun, ptx, and a32, but no mention of AUX. Is anyone running pine on A/UX 3.0 or later? In contrib/aux.port I found aux.diff, and the README says: This is a first cut at a port of Pine to A/UX 3.0 by Marcelo Gallardo . This port arrived too late to be merged into the Pine 3.85 release, but is expected to be included in a future release. Does anyone know if these changes were included in pine 3.91? If not, can anyone tell me how to use aux.diff? Judy ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Judith M. Birmingham Information Specialist Stark County District Schools Canton, Ohio, USA Internet: jmb@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The most effective kind of education is that a child play among lovely things." -- Plato ( ~400 B.C.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:02:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00385; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:02:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23120; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23114; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rarV6-00038LC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rheinhardt Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:30:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Yep. Just use Alt+three-digit-number. E-mail me for details. On 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there > knows? meb > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:02:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00414; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:02:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22333; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22327; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rarV3-00038KC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rheinhardt Subject: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please e-mail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:20:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00771; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:20:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22618; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:18:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22612; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:18:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raroj-00038JC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 3 Feb 1995 15:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> Status: O X-Status: Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. I know nothing about computer languages etc. Much appreciated! Best, John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:50:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01335; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:50:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23733; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:48:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23727; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:48:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasFa-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Help: Can't cut and paste in Pine Date: 3 Feb 1995 11:50:15 -0800 Message-Id: <3gu1dn$seh@crl6.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: [ Article crossposted from crl.general ] [ Author was Bob Corbett ] [ Posted on 3 Feb 1995 09:40:25 -0800 ] I have having a frustrating problem inPine. If I have two message that come in and I want to edit them into one message, I try to forward the first one to myself, then cut some stuff out. I then forward the second message to myself and try to paste the first message into the second. NOthing happens. Control ^ works just find. Control K cuts just as it's supposed. Control U will repaste INSIDE any message, but will not repaste into a new message. Somewhere I read that perhaps esc esc U would do it. NOpe. Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am I doing something wrong? Please help. Thanks, Bob Corbett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:03:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01629; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:03:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23154; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:00:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23148; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:00:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasQO-00038JC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:32:50 GMT Message-Id: <3h0rq2$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Rheinhardt with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0500: + I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? This is currently not avail. however what i would do is (E)xport the mail to $HOME and then download it from there to local machine either by using 'ftp' if you are on ethernet or if you are dialing in, then any serial xfer protocol aware s/w like kermit, sz, procomm or something similar. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:11:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01933; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:11:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24048; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:08:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24042; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:08:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasah-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:43:36 GMT Message-Id: <3h0se8$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Brad with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:41:05 +0000: + But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing + list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?... Keeping up with this thread, here's a situation i usually encounter. A user sends an e-mail to a person, Cc's to the mailing list and then sets the Reply-To to go to the list. So when i reply, it prompts me first for do you want to use Reply To: instead of From, I say yes and now since the original poster had Cc'd to the list it prompts me again for Do you want to reply to all the recipients. I'm using the Reply-To: so the reply will go to the list, so it includes every one so where is the question of 'all reciepients' unless ofcourse if the original poster had Cc'd to someone else who is not on the list. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:47:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02603; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:47:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23782; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:43:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23774; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:43:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rat9M-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@eel.ufl.edu (Daniel C. Wang) Subject: How to setup pine on Linux Date: 4 Feb 1995 17:41:39 GMT Message-Id: <3h0e8j$bum@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: Dear helpers, I got the source code of pine. I tried to build it on the linux machine. But there is no linux platform available. The readme file indicate /doc/pine_pro file doesn't exit in my directory. Is there any one can give me some help? Could you e-mail me to "dan@li.ee.ufl.edu" Thank you very much! Dan Feb 4 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 15:15:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03158; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:15:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24870; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:13:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24864; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:13:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rate1-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 4 Feb 1995 19:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <3h0ji7$19po@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: : Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to : reply anywhere else. The "Reply to:" usually means that you have received the email from a mailing list. The choice is do you wish to reply to everyone on the mailing list or only the author. Pine gives you the choice. If your email continues the discussion everyone is interewsted. However you also have the choice of sending something to the author only. : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". Yes, such a config option would be good. Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 15:41:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03863; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:41:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24528; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:38:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24522; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:38:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rau0J-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: US-ASCII/ISO-8859-x Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:55:30 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This may be a silly idea, but I reckon it would be nice to be able to set the character set independently for composing messages and for viewing them. I say this because a few people in the US have been complaining at me for accidentally hitting Shift-3 when I should have used the 'proper' hash key, thus getting =20's and all those other things scattered throughout my mail. But! when viewing messages, it would be nice to be able to set the character set to ISO-8859-1, as I can view these character sets (plus I wouldn't get that message about some characters maybe being displayed incorrectly). Just my Thought For The Day. :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 16:36:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05024; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26027; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:33:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26021; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:33:19 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA01475; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:45 +0100 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:44 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: POP in Pine 3.91? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello PINErs -- I just compiled PINE3.91 on a DEC Alpha 3300 running OSF. I thought I had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so, what needs to be done? Thanks! Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 18:41:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07469; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:41:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27525; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:38:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27517; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:38:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rawm6-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Foreign character PINE filters?? Date: 4 Feb 1995 20:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <3h0otc$1d1c@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: There are many languages in the world with which people communicate. The ASCII symbols available to PINE do not include all the characters needed for most languages that are not English. There are conversion filters that will allow the messages to be converted to the available ASCII characters for sending and receiving but allowing writing and reading to be done in the desired language. I am hoping to hear about anyones experiences using such filters/converters, especially anyone who has tried or succeeded in attaching them to PINE so that the process is automatic. (That is to say not requiring; write the text, convert it, send it, receive it, export to a file, read it). The language I am using is Latvian but the principles should be the same for any non English language. Thank you Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08334; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:30:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28090; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:27:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edison.eng.auburn.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28084; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:27:31 -0800 Received: from strangelove.eng.auburn.edu.eng.auburn.edu (20663@strangelove.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.110.12]) by edison.eng.auburn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA14604; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:27:08 -0600 Received: by strangelove.eng.auburn.edu.eng.auburn.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16613; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:26:37 CST Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:26:37 -0600 (CST) From: Doug Hughes To: "Tracy R. Reed" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: procmail problems! ARGH! In-Reply-To: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: problems with procmail deleted We have replaced the local delivery agent (binmail) with procmail as described in the Install instructions on the same type machine running same OS and it works flawlessly (with sendmail8.6.9). Perhaps not what you wanted to hear, just letting you know that it does work. ____________________________________________________________________________ Doug Hughes Engineering Network Services System/Net Admin Auburn University doug@eng.auburn.edu "Real programmers use cat > file.as" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:44:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08652; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:44:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27418; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:40:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27412; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:40:35 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 5 Feb 95 11:40:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:40:19 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Chip Old Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Chip Old wrote: > On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left > > Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account > > name. If they match then you will get the "+". > > That can't be it. I get mail addressed to: > > Francis Old > Francis E. Old > Chip Old > Francis "Chip" Old > > > The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with > Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not. When I speak of the email address I speak of that within the seperators < and >. The LHS is to the left of "@" the RHS is to the right of "@". In all of the case you mention above, they are all equal. > > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system > > call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account > > on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will > > show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to > > Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that > > it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. > > Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to > egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show > up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to > egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com, so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail > addressed directly to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up on cdc.com with > the "+" flag. I didn't say that the mail was address as egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com and then forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com. I'm telling you that my email address is also Ed.Greshko@cdc.com and I can be addressed directly in that fashion. Thru the magic of X.500 directory services the email will be delivered just fine. I'm telling you the mail showing up in my mailbox address to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com will *not* have the "+" set...but mail address to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com or egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com or even egreshko@twntpe.cdc.com will arrive with the "+". When dealing with email systems, don't forget that what is on the headers may not be what is on the envelope. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:46:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08693; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:46:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27480; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27474; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:43:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raxqp-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Help: Can't cut and paste in Pine Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:28:08 GMT Message-Id: <3h0rh8$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Bob Corbett with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 3 Feb 1995 11:50:15 -0800: + Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am + I doing something wrong? This feature currently is not avail. However what I would do is (E)xport the first mail into $HOME and then read that file in while responding to the second. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 21:06:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10098; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:06:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29336; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:03:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29330; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:03:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raz6U-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: pine addressbook tab stops all awry Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:29:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: Re- posted from netcom.mail (netcom netnews rulus don't permit crossposting.... ) Newsgroups: netcom.mail References: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Distribution: netcom Walter Alter (walter@netcom.com) asked: : i tried to manually edit the pine .addressbook with pico but found out : that it doesn't work that way. when i switched back to my saved original : .addressbook it displayed my entries across the entire screen with the : addresses running off the screen to the right. it appears that pine is : interpolating extra tab stops in the display although the .addressbook : file appears normal. i then resaved the .adressbook under a different name : and deleted both it and the .addressbook.lu so that pine could start : over. starting with a virgin .addressbook and entering a sampling of my : email recipients, pine still displays its columns spread across the : screen. anyone have an idea on this? : thanks : walter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 21:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10890; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:58:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29061; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:53:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29055; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:53:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:50 EST From: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu (Vince Chan) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine.conf Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine In-Reply-To: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Organization: Yale University (dormitory system) Cc: Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 23:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12550; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:36:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00422; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:34:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00416; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:34:01 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07042; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 02:33:31 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 02:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Wyse60 Support In-Reply-To: <3g3o90$lt9@garlic.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1185 Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: > Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I > suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not > working inside Pine ... > > It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses > for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or > do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in??? Could've sworn I read this and replied several days ago. Do we have a dup loop going? We had the same problem here. Based on what youre getting from your cursor keys, it sounds like your Wyse terminals are set for Wyse 50+ terminal emulation. Pine will work better for you if you reset them to vt100 emulation. It's easy enough to do, but youi need to switch back after your Pine session if you need Wyse emulation for other functions. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 00:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13656; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00893; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:11:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00886; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:11:24 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07081; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:11:06 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:11:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 932 Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael A. Naud wrote: > I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the > laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that > you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have > one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function > keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what > terminal emulator he uses. Most current Mac telecomm software has an option to set some other key (usually the Command or Option key) to act as the Control key on older Macs that don't have real Control keys. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 00:38:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13980; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:38:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01107; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:32:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01101; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:32:00 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07121; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:31:41 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:31:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2018 Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, David Swanger wrote: > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the > : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. > > This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm > window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC > communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a > Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, > when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". > That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different > Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same > result. > > My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't > Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a > work-around? Yes, it's a terminal emulation problem. Some telecomm softare, regardless of platform, just doesn't emulate vt100 or vt102 as completely as it should. If a normal control character doesn't work for you, substitute two escapes for the control key. In other words, instead of Control-^, use Esc Esc ^. For what it's worth, the best vt102 emulation currently available in Mac telecomm software is provided by Microphone Pro. It's pretty pricey, but you can do almost anything with it. VersaTerm Pro is also supposed to be very good, but Ive never used it. If money is a problem, I recommend the $30 shareware Zterm (although it doesn't handle vt100/102 print commands properly, so Pine's "y" print command prints to screen instead of to the local printer). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 12:21:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26967; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:21:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09365; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cs.sfsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09359; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:16:51 -0800 Received: (from uusavik@localhost) by cs.sfsu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA09200 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:13:18 -0800 Received: by savik.UUCP (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0.a) id AA03322; Mon, 30 Jan 95 17:12:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 17:12:41 -0800 From: savik!jenniwoo@apple.com (Jennifer Woodward) Message-Id: <9501310112.AA03322@savik.UUCP> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine & pico info Status: O X-Status: I'm really looing for pico source, or binaries, for NeXT. Jennifer Woodward jenniwoo@futon.sfsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 15:14:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00627; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:14:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11520; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:11:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11514; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:11:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:07:48 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: pine.conf To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 17:57:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03437; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:57:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13625; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:54:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13619; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:54:05 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rbIfC-0002hSC; Sun, 5 Feb 95 20:54 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:48:05 +0500 (EST) From: Roland Zuk To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Are either of you using an alternate-editor? > > When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping" > the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so > far we don't have a good solution for it. > > I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an > > extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an > > error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". Hi Terry, thanks for the response. No altenate editor. I'm using the built-in. Any other suggestions? Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 00:47:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12058; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:47:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18694; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:42:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18688; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:42:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbOy2-00038MC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Incoming Folders List Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:21:34 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incoming Message Folders ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet Thanks for any help you can give! ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 01:48:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13596; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:48:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20772; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:44:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20766; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:43:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbPvA-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikew@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (michael wallendahl) Subject: Re: Qmodem and "attached-to-ansi" Printing Problem Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 05:55:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: Eric Force (eforce@acy1.digex.net) wrote: : I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using : Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears : that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences : for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y" : (attached-to-ansi print) function. I may be wrong, but I think that the "print-to-attched-printer" only works under vt100 style emulation. I use TeleMate myself, and it works perfectly when I use VT-102 emulation. Just hit "Y" and out comes my e-mail on my dot matrix. :) Good luck. -- ----- Mike Wallendahl | KC7FUM 145.470 - mikew@wsu.edu | http://scs411.csc.wsu.edu/HomePages/mwallend Washington State University | Pullman, WA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 05:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19509; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22327; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:19:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22321; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:19:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTIZ-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Force Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:18:20 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Probably the two most common ways ways are: 1> To save the message WITH header infomation use the xport command. 2> To save the message WITHOUT header info use iew attachment then ave. An abbreviated description of the most useful commands can be viewed by pressing the ? (HELP) while viewing a message. Eric ====================================================================== | Have a Great Day! | Challenging Crossword Puzzles via Email | | Eric Force | New Puzzle Daily. For Information: | | eforce@acy.digex.net | --> finger xword@acy.digex.net <-- | ====================================================================== On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote: > I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please > e-mail. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 05:59:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19895; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:59:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23946; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:44:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23940; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:44:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTiO-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nizar@najah.edu (Nizar Awartani) Subject: help Date: 6 Feb 1995 06:34:47 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: In repling to some one by mail, the pine program does not include the message. Can any one help? Please: Reply by E-mail. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Nizar M. Awartani Department Of Computer Science An-Najah University l l Nablus West Bank . l.. _ _ l .. Tel. 972-9-383266 _l l__l l_l___l_ l __l l____l ____l ____l ____l _____l .. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:00:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19927; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:00:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22684; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:49:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22678; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:49:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTiz-00038FC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:29:23 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Dan Schlitt wrote: > Nntp has a well defined protocol > specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions > and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC. Unfortunately, these two statements conflict with each other. You can not build a proper functional NNTP client or server using the specification in RFC-977. Consider the following differences from RFC-977: 1) You are supposed to use LIST ACTIVE to get the list of active newsgroups. RFC-977 only defines LIST with no argument; there are reports of NNTP servers which reject this. 2) The only way to find out which message numbers are valid in a sequence is by the LISTGROUP command (absent in RFC-977) or, failing that, by the "XHDR Date" command (also absent in RFC-977). RFC-977 requires you to have holes in your browser -- something that *infuriated* users of earlier versions of Pine who tried to use the news support. 3) Many NNTP servers do not permit posting without your having first given the AUTHINFO USER and AUTHINFO PASS commands (absent in RFC-977). [I wonder if the paranoid site administrators who worry about people posting forged news messages realize that this "fix" broadcasts passwords in the clear over the net!]. Pine does not implement this yet, and we're getting beaten up about it. 4) Many NNTP clients have been changed to take advantage of the XOVER command (absent in RFC-977), which permits fetching of sufficient information of a message to build a browser line; and what's more, permits it over a range of messages. Pine does not implement this yes, and we're getting beaten up about it. Right now, Pine laboriously fetches the headers for each message, one at a time, and does an RFC-822 parse to build the browser line. This is slow. 5) NNTP is conspicuously the *only* protocol that lacks a no-op command. Fortunately, unlike POP2, unknown command errors do not cause the connection to die, so a client can issue a NOOP command and ignore any error in the server's response. The only rational conclusion that one must make is that there is no such thing as a standard NNTP protocol. Rather, each client and server implementor is on his own to build something that more or less interoperates with the maximal number of other implementation. Yes, this is a lousy circumstance. But this is the condition that NNTP is in. It is not possible to develop a viable NNTP implementation using the published specification. Given that other NNTP server and client implementors have had no problem with the concept of making undocumented commands mandatory, I see no inconsistancy in doing the same thing in Pine. More importantly, however, is the fact that there was no choice. It wasn't just that people were beating up on us about the lack of NNTP server pinging -- we were being screwed by it ourselves! > But Rich Salz > is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision. Unfortunately, nothing has come out of Salz's efforts. Even worse, it seems that the NNTP community seems to have fractured, and there is no guarantee that anything Salz eventually produces will be accepted. Which is a shame, since in general Salz seems to have the right ideas. Consider the recent debate about the function of the Newsgroups: header line, and the emergence of cretins who insist that headers must be interpreted in a context-sensitive fashion between news/mail. I don't think there is any hope of seeing a viable NNTP standard specification until this matter is resolved (and there is little hope of the result being accepted if the cretins win). > So the question is > whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the > extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs. As I pointed out earlier, the NOOPs are harmless. Or rather, they should be. NOOP is an unknown command in a strict interpretation of RFC-977. The specification is quite clear about the treatment of unknown commands. So, in that regard, NOOP -- or rather, the correct server behavior to a NOOP command -- is part of the protocol. I am sorry about the log file garbage that some server maintainers have as a result. However, part of the process of gathering logging information is identifying what information is significant, and filtering out the unimportant information. Logs with excessive noise are just as bad as inadequate logs. More importantly, stating that "NOOP log events are filling up my disk" is an open broadcast to all crackers about how to commence a denial of service attack on your system. The security implications are worse than just denial of service to users. A cracker could cause denial of service to security logging mechanisms. Just send a few hundred thousand bogus commands at the NNTP server until the disk fills, then crack away without fear of having evidence against you being logged. Furthermore, it is fairly common in older Internet protocols for clients to probe for server capabilities by attempting commands which the server may or may not know. Newer Internet protocols provide a capability listing mechanism which allegedly makes this unnecessary (and, as I expected, we're already seeing skews between advertised capabilities and implemented ones). The bottom line is that client behavior (especially non-authenticated clients such as NNTP clients) that causes excessive resource consumption on a server identifies a server problem, not a client problem. I'm confident that if I changed the NOOP to a HELP (which is in RFC-977), I'll get complaints from server maintainers of their logs being filled up with help texts. [I know, because that's what I used to do.] > This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew > make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of > suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct. In the case of NNTP, there simply is no standard that one can use to develop a viable implementation. There are *no* NNTP implementations which conform strictly to RFC-977. NNTP sticks out like a sore thumb in this regard. > The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what > timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the > servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the > specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems. The Pine team has historically come rather firmly on the side of the client controlling all aspects of the user interface. How long you are permitted to be idle is an aspect of the user interface. Judging from the number of vehement complaints in this newsgroup from people who have had IMAP connections dropped due to a failure in Pine's timeout suppression mechanism (and yes, we *are* working to nail these!), it seems that the user community is on Pine's side on this issue. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:19:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20351; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:19:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24303; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:14:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24297; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:14:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbUBj-00038OC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clif Daniel Subject: Pine for Windows Compiled as a Callable DLL Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 16:43:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: PCPine for Windows would be a perfect add-on for my Windows bases host. The host software is 100% Windows and has the ablity to make calls to DLL files. The host software can already import QWK and make a mail/news run using WINNETs' Terminal application, then it does a conversion and auto- matically imports the e-mail/newsgroups into the forums-messagebases, that's pretty cool, but I think a PCPine-Win DLL would be great. There is a frame work of sample source code to build on. It's available in TPascal and C. I like using PCPine-Win and Unix and would like to allow my dial-up users to also use it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:43:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20853; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:43:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23333; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:37:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23327; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:37:10 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA26354; Mon, 6 Feb 95 09:37:06 EST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Mark Crispin Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark, You have made things a bit clearer. Please note that I was not among those that complaines about what ends up in log files. I know how to manage my logfiles so that isn't a problem. I do like to understand things that show up there. I knew that the revisions of the nntp protocol document was long delayed. I did not realize that things had deteriorated to the state that you describe. The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the revision of the protocol. I don't have a lot of sympathy with those folks who go out to write the world's latest and greatest news reader and do it without regard to interoperability and protocol considerations. (And I don't include the Pine team in that group, so don't take this as a criticism of your work.) I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to deal with. But it is a matter of taste. It may be that a large part of the problem is that the transport and reading are contained in the same protocol. Separating the two might get us standards for both sooner. On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the client. Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout between client and server (back to the subject of point one). In the case where the client and server are under the same administrative control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important user base is. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 08:24:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24056; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:24:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24988; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:09:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24982; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:09:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbVvr-00038JC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu (Vince Chan) Subject: pine.conf Date: 3 Feb 1995 23:32:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 08:47:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25127; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:47:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26837; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:39:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26826; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:39:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbWRw-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nick Boris Subject: PORTS: X, NeXT, FreeBSD Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 20:36:01 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: HI, I know most of these exist out there but I am wondering where the locations are. I have heard of PINE for X (Specifically for Solaris 2.3) as well as NeXT (intel hardware) and am wondering if that was idle chatter or if they exist. If they do exist might someone point me in the right direction to locate them. Too: Part of this is attempting to have a consistant program distribution over our netowrk (heaven knows that the OS's and boxes aren't). I have PC-Pine setup all over the place and standard pine humming along in the terminal windows of the Suns and NeXT. What I don't have is Pine working for the command-line impared or our two FreeBSD 2.0 training boxes. (I haven't managed to sucessfully compile it) So, if anyone can pass along any pointers for FreeBSD compilation or locals of roden-based pines I would greatly appreciate it! -Nick nmboris@purelogic.com --- Pure Logic Computers, NYC nmboris@artsci.wustl.edu --- Washington University in St. Louis http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~nmboris/ White Noise As ever, the opinions expressed are not those of my employer, though they should be. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:20:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29879; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:20:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28216; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:14:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28210; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:14:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbXvT-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 95 17:17:34 GMT Message-Id: References: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) writes: > I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find >any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. > Thanks for all help! Best, John Decent full-function editors for UNIX (I only use jove, Emacs, and jed) allow you to mark a region and send it to a UNIX filter, in this case sort. Read the manpage for your editor and for sort. I believe joe and vi also allow piping a region to an external command. Basically if you can imagine a text tranformation, the basic tools of UNIX can accomplish it. Get a good intro book to UNIX. >* World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html >* Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at >* ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip >* WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail >* E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. >* WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details >* Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:46:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01442; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:46:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29661; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29655; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:39:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbYGl-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 95 17:24:00 GMT Message-Id: References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) writes: > Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. > I know nothing about computer languages etc. > Much appreciated! > Best, John The problem is a classic one of not having a normalized datafile. On UNIX you could at least give some consideration to treating this as a bibliography and using the bib tools. To see addbib and his friends, 'man -k bib' People have given you some pointers. Go check out the books on awk and perl from your library. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:48:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01575; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:48:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29685; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29679; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:27 -0800 Received: from verpower.ver.itesm.mx by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07949; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:19 -0800 From: al392328@verpower.ver.itesm.mx Received: by verpower.ver.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20697; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:34:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:34:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Question? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am from Mexico and I am trying to write to a friend in Bloomsburg, PA. Her address is lallyjone@aol.com But everytime I get a massage from the computer "Host Unknown". Can somebody help me???? T H A N K Y O U, Mauricio Vargas. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 11:52:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05653; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:52:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01322; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:44:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [141.206.10.110] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01316; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:59 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM) by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26570; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:13 PST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:13 PST From: Steven Feinholz Message-Id: <9502061943.AA26570@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unix INBOX Status: O X-Status: On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at /var/spool/mail/ and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local folder in which to move the email. Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox' folder. For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using the PC to dial in, I use Pine. Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user can set in the configuration file)? ________________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 12:44:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08325; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:44:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01954; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:38:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01942; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:38:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rba9g-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: Subdirectories With Pine? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:12:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to configure Pine so that I am able to use subdirectories within either my mail or "Subscribed-Groups" directories? What I would like to do, is to configure my newsgroups directory so that I can have all of the groups which are related to a given topic in a separate subdirectory. Also, I would like to set up my mail directory so that I have one or two separate subdirectories for people with whom I regularly exchange E-Mail, so that I can keep each of them as a separate folder without cluttering up my primary mail directory with folders. Also, I am learning that it may be useful to have a separate "Lists" folder for storing mail from the various mailing lists that I am on. Is anything like this possible? Mike Rollins mr@world.std.com mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 14:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13884; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:40:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04949; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04943; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08842; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:36:03 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Brad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Each folder in the list may have an optional nickname in front of it, and if it exists, that nickname will be used in the display. The nickname is separated from the rest of the name by a space. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote: > Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the > folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming Message Folders > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > Thanks for any help you can give! > > ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 17:44:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24378; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:44:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09838; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:39:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from motgate.mot.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09832; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:39:51 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA16216; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:49 -0600 Received: from po_box.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA02338; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:48 -0600 Received: from wildebeest.cig.mot.com (wildebeest.cig.mot.com [136.182.8.145]) by po_box.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-RELAY-1.11) with ESMTP id UAA19629 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:40:28 -0500 Received: (ellis@localhost) by wildebeest.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-1.12B) id TAA09057; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199502070139.TAA09057@wildebeest.cig.mot.com> To: ellis@cig.mot.com From: Ted Stern Subject: comp.mail.pine - [Q] addressbook conversion tools Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:51:43 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Nntp-Posting-Host: crystal.amath.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: These questions *weren't* in the FAQ! Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert .addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my automated mailing can use my pine addresses. Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine .addressbook format? I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply. TIA, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 20:40:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29798; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:40:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12826; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12820; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:36:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbhcR-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine.conf Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:46:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged to read the pine.conf file and what it found there... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800 > From: Vince Chan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: pine.conf > > Hi everyone, > > I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. > Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system > defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf > it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. > Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! > > > Cheers, > Vince > E-mail: > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. > root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | > | leap of the 21st Century. | > \_________________________________________________________________/ > uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > Los Angeles, California USA > > GUS Digest Adminstrator > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology > > System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 20:53:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00233; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:53:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13386; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13379; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbhs8-00038FC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Soergel Subject: Missing Newsreader Features (?) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:54:17 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello... if anybody knows how to do the following, please tell me; otherwise these are suggestions for the next version. 1. The folder list should display the number of messages in a newsgroup (so I don't have to enter the newsgroup only to discover it empty!). Alternatively one might turn off display of empty groups. 2. It should be possible to set up a hierarchy of folders so I can sort newsgroups by subject. (STRN does this... maybe rn and trn too?) 3. Undelete newsgroup messages. Thanks for any help, or for taking suggestions! (There are Pine programmers watching this group, right?) -David P.S. I'm using Unix Pine 3.91. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 21:07:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00614; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:07:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13241; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:04:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13235; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:04:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 00:00:47 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: pine.conf To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: Hi David, I just ran pine as both a regular user and a root user but I don't see a .pine-debug1 in my home directory after running pine. Any ideas? Thanks for the help. Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged > to read the pine.conf file and what it found there... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > > > Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800 > > From: Vince Chan > > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > > Subject: pine.conf > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. > > Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system > > defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf > > it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. > > Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! > > > > > > Cheers, > > Vince > > E-mail: > > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. > > root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA > > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ > > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | > > | leap of the 21st Century. | > > \_________________________________________________________________/ > > uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > > Los Angeles, California USA > > > > GUS Digest Adminstrator > > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology > > > > System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 21:42:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01422; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:42:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13776; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:39:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13770; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:39:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbibn-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nguyent6@watserv.ucr.edu (Thi V Nguyen) Subject: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? Date: 7 Feb 1995 05:02:29 GMT Message-Id: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm use pine v3.91, btw. Any help is appreciated. -- Thi Nguyen nguyent6@watmail.ucr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 22:03:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01787; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:03:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14371; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14362; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:59:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbitV-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu (ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE) Subject: Mailing List Question Message-Id: <1995Feb6.135246@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 6 Feb 95 13:52:46 CST Status: O X-Status: How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the help file is not the clearest. Thank yo. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 22:49:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02741; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:49:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14631; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14625; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:45:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbjcX-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Unix INBOX Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 21:32:01 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9502061943.AA26570@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> Status: O X-Status: The answer is no, you can't. The definition of INBOX actually comes from IMAP, and is specifically case-insensitive. However, you can access a file named inbox, by prefixing it with some sort of directory specifier, e.g. ~/inbox, ~/mail/inbox, etc. -- Mark -- On 6 Feb 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote: > > On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at > > /var/spool/mail/ > > and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or > maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there > is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local > folder in which to move the email. > > Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except > for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move > my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox' > folder. > > For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which > use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using > the PC to dial in, I use Pine. > > Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive > INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user > can set in the configuration file)? > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 > =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 > =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 > ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 02:42:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08025; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:42:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17901; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17895; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbn6V-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unger@raindrop.seaslug.org (Tom Unger) Subject: Re: Pine as a BBS Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:21:27 GMT Message-Id: <1995Feb6.232127.8514@raindrop.seaslug.org> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Vincent Cate wrote: >First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine. >Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can >it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on >the Unix machine except for their folders. I've done some modifications to pine so that users of a BBS can use it as their mailer. Involved removing features that may let them look at arbitrary files or execute arbitrary programs, and adding upload and download commands so they can read or save file on their local computer. If there is interest I'll see if the BBS folks will let me release the secure version. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Even if I can, people who pick it up will probably have to modify it a little to fit their own environment. I use some functions that are propritary to the BBS. Plus, every's idea of what is secure is a little different. >Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not >used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have >to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on >PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay >connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about >getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.) You can use pc-pine with dialup IP (SLIP or PPP). But it's not very good about offline mail reading. I think that Pegasus mail provides good offline reading, but it's a POP mail client. -- Tom Unger WWC, Seattle -- -- Tom Unger WWC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 06:56:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15116; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:56:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21337; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:48:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21311; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:46:40 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:41 +0000 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA076766419; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:39 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA23170; Tue, 7 Feb 95 15:13:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:33 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello all, auto-move-read-msgs works well when connected to the local INBOX. However, when connected to a remote INBOX via IMAP I have no luck. Is it possible to configure pine to also auto-move these messages. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 07:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15747; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:21:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21819; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:13:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21813; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:13:47 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10377 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:13:27 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:13:27 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: Thi V Nguyen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? In-Reply-To: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 7 Feb 1995, Thi V Nguyen wrote: > Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only > problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just > ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in > pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm > use pine v3.91, btw. Isn't Bcc for this purpose? -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 07:59:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16759; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:59:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22367; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:47:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22361; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:47:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbs4u-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: Need help with signature! Date: 7 Feb 1995 17:32:39 +1300 Message-Id: <3h6t57$au9@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> kolsam@csulb.edu (Kolsam Mel Keo) writes: >Hi, > >How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my >.signature file appends at the bottom? > >Please reply me. Thanks. > >Mel > Go into Setup/Config and set the "signature-at-bottom" feature. Alternatively you can edit the the .pinerc file and add "signature-at-bottom" to the feature-list entry. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 10:07:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22806; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:07:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25840; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:02:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25834; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:02:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbuAC-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 09:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brodon@acy1.digex.net (Don Stimson) Subject: Using Pine as Newsreader Date: 6 Feb 1995 20:41:31 GMT Message-Id: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same. Thanks, Don. brodon@acy.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 13:00:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01375; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:00:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00144; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:53:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00136; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:53:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbwqq-00038HC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Need help with signature! Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:24:31 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Cool Hacker wrote: > On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote: > > > How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my > > .signature file appends at the bottom? > > > > > > if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in > you home directory > > And set signature at bottom David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 13:29:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03343; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:29:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01098; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:18:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01092; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:18:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbxEU-00038FC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Date: 6 Feb 1995 19:20:36 -0800 Message-Id: <3h6ou4$s5l@crl12.crl.com> References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: Yes,it is easy. In the To: write your own address. Then, while up at the top hit control R. YOu will get the expanded heading. This will cause you to get more of a heading and it will include bcc (blind carbon copy). On this line type the name of your mailing list. Then, even though the whole list is on that letter, your recipients will only get a letter addressed to themself. sound (street@phantom.com) wrote: : Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or : Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the : list. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:22:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05753; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:22:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02294; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:09:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02288; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:09:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rby0g-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: Mailing List Question Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:21:17 -0800 Message-Id: <3h6edt$eih@crl4.crl.com> References: <1995Feb6.135246@titan.sfasu.edu> Status: O X-Status: ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE (g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu) wrote: : How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the : help file is not the clearest. Thank yo. I have a mailing list. It was quite easy. Once in my mailing list I believe Ihit z. Check the list at the bottom. It asked me to name the list, which I did as ptp. Then it asked for addresses (not names. Mine won't let me put names on addresses). Then when I want to mail I merely hit ptp on the send line, at least that is what I did early on. Then my list got up to over 100 people and all those addresses took up 3 pages. So, now when I get ready to mail I mail it to ME. Then I hit Conrol R and I get an expanded heading, including a line bcc (blind carbon copy). Next I type my ptp on this line and now the letter goes out with only one person's name, their own, on each of the 100+ letters. Hope this helps, bob Corbett If it is not clear, write back, I'll try again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:50:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07184; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03171; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03165; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:40:31 -0800 Received: from localhost.nada.kth.se (localhost.nada.kth.se [127.0.0.1]) by staff.nada.kth.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19039; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:35:18 +0100 Message-Id: <199502072235.XAA19039@staff.nada.kth.se> X-Authentication-Warning: staff.nada.kth.se: Host localhost.nada.kth.se didn't use HELO protocol To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine Subject: Re: POP in Pine 3.91? In-Reply-To: from "Mary Aplin " "Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:44 +0100 (MET) " Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 23:35:17 +0100 From: Peter Svanberg Status: O X-Status: Quoting: Mary Aplin > > ... I thought I > had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail > server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so, > what needs to be done? (I suppose you meant POP *client*.) >From the 6 januari FAQ: Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. Implementation/technical question to the Pine team: On our Unix site we would like to use POP (with Kerberos support, "kpop") just as a safer method of fetching /usr/spool/mail/$USER contents to $HOME/mbox than using NFS. We have a program which can do this kpop fetch. How difficult would it be (for you or us) to change Pine to run this program for the mbox-fetch rather than opening and copying it itself? Hmm, a change in the c-client mbox.c file (we use mbox driver as default), function mbox_ping() seems to be needed, right? --- Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:56:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07475; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:56:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03215; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mote.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03209; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:05 -0800 Received: by mote.Berkeley.EDU (5.57/1.28) id AA29346; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mockensturm To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Removing Header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This seems like it must be a FAQ but I can't find it in the official FAQ. Anyway, I was wondering if it is possible to remove the header information when you export a message. If so please let me know how to do it. I know you can just edit the file later, but that can be a hassle if you're Exporting a lot of files. Eric Mockensturm Dynamic Stability Lab 1113 Etcheverry Hall University of California - Berkeley (510) 642-6371 http://mote.berkeley.edu/~eric/eric.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 15:06:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08184; Tue, 7 Feb 95 15:06:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03543; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:58:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03537; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:58:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbypM-00038HC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? Date: 6 Feb 1995 23:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <3h75q5$i31@crl7.crl.com> References: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Thi V Nguyen (nguyent6@watserv.ucr.edu) wrote: Yes, and it is quite easy. When you open a message to either compose or forward, address the message to yourself. Then, while the cursor is still there in the heading, his Control R. You will not have an expanded heading. Under the cc line will be a new line bcc which means blind carbon copy. On tht line type the name of your mailing list, or the lsit of individuals, which ever. Then each person will receive a copy that only has your name and their own. The only copy that will have all the names is the one that goes to your sent mail file. Even when you get your on copy (recall, you are the top line recipient) yours will not have the bcc list. Hope this is clear, if not let me know where you get into trouble and I'll try to help out. Best, Bob Corbett : Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only : problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just : ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in : pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm : use pine v3.91, btw. : Any help is appreciated. : -- : Thi Nguyen : nguyent6@watmail.ucr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 16:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10939; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:14:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05069; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:03:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05063; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:03:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbzrG-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rashid Bawa Subject: Pine for Macintosh Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 11:50:04 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking out for a version of PINE that will run on a MACINTOSH. I would appreciate any suggestions on possible sites. Thanking you in avdance. ========================================================================= G E O R G E B R O W N - T H E C I T Y C O L L E G E ========================================================================= Rashid Bawa \ / George Brown College System Administrator || 146 Kendal Ave. || Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 944-4591 || Canada E-Mail: rbawa@gbrownc.on.ca || M5R 1M3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:10:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13382; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:10:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06538; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:03:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06532; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:03:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0k9-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dougq@iglou.iglou.com (Douglas H. Quebbeman) Subject: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:57:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: I really get irritated by the lack of a SHELL facility in the PINE message editor. At least if I could POSTPONE the composition and then SHELL from the menu without leaving PINE completely, that would suffice. But it would be ideal to have it in the editor itself. I tried to switch to using ELM for a while, but gave up, since it doesn't have a COMPOSE command. I suppose I'm expected to use EMACS with the appropriate macros, but I don't want to travel down that road again, so I use PICO (it looks a lot like the editor built into PINE, probably due to the common authorship). Does PINE have a SHELL command? Am I missing it? Send replies via email, please. -- -- -Douglas H. Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com) "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:16:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13591; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:16:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06835; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06829; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0rs-00038FC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Michael J. Ellis) Subject: 150+ concurrent copies of pine running..... Date: 5 Feb 1995 22:03:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3h43in$9rd@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hiya folks.... Was wondering if anyone has messed with this at all. Pine is a pretty big boy to run. I've got a Sun Sparc2k, and frequently have 200+ people on. Has anyone played with Shared-configurations of pine under Solaris 2.x? I thought that maybe unbundling pico from pine would help. (since pico would only be called if someone is composing and not when someone is reading). I guess I'm looking for ideas on cutting down on memory usuage... Thanks for any clues... (I know..... buy more memory :-) MikeE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael John J. Ellis | Sr. Programmer Analyst | ASHES to ASHES..... The George Washington University | DOS to DOS. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:21:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13752; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:21:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06941; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:13:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06935; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:13:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0tv-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric.Beaudoin@dmr.ca (Eric Beaudoin) Subject: Re: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 21:46:51 -0500 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , yku00401@rufous.yorku.ca (Ilan Graifer) wrote: > I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, > but I wasn't successful in doing so. > > I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. > > If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the > patches. I've asked the same question some time ago with no result. The problem is that none of the install script that come with Pine are working with BSD 4.4 g and it seams nobody has done the port yet. Some guys here who are a lot better than me in Unix we'll do the required modifications as soon as they resolved our more pressing problems (with FreeBSD 2.0R, the DNS stop and the server reboot for no reason). I'll post as soon as I have a workable solution. If you find a way before that, please post here or contact me. Best *** *o o* __________________ooO_(_)_Ooo_________________________________________________ Eric Beaudoin | Mes opignions sont miennes et Groupe DMR Inc. (514) 877-3301 | peuvent devenir les votres. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14244; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:36:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07181; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:28:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07175; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:28:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA03078; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:27:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 16:02:52 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? To: Dan Schlitt Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote: > The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to > be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect > his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the > revision of the protocol. As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse, by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled. It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout. > I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP > provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to > deal with. But it is a matter of taste. The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately, DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-) > On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. > The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. > one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the > client. It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections, then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure the server that it is still there at periodic intervals. > Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout > between client and server (back to the subject of point one). Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line. > In the > case where the client and server are under the same administrative > control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the > server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important > user base is. As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above) without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and keepalive pings. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 18:14:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15553; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:14:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07885; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07879; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:03:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc1ha-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbayerl@uspto.gov (Raymond Bayerl) Subject: Re: Using Windows Date: 4 Feb 1995 12:21:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3h0d3d$f2t@pioneer.uspto.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: Amy L. Lauderdale (laall@cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu) wrote: : I use telix to connect to my local university and use pine from that : system. I have a student who is using the windows terminal software : to connect from home. I tried it here on my computer to try to : help her learn. : There are a couple of problems we ran into. It will not let us use : the arrow keys in pine. And it will not let us use ^C to cancel : a message. : Any suggestions? : ************************************************************ : Amy Lauderdale/Math Teacher : Lafayette High School/Northwest Community College : Oxford, MS laall@cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu : ************************************************************ ******* This is a problem I also ran into when using WINDOWS TERMINAL to attempt to send ^C and arrow key commands to our machine. My solution was to toggle the parameter: Settings/Terminal Preferences/"Use Function, Arrow, and Ctrl Keys for Windows" from its default of "X" to no-"X" in the dialog box. This apparently keeps TERMINAL from intercepting these keystrokes and allows them to pass to the modem. Raymond Bayerl, Patent Examiner, US PTO rbayerl@pioneer.uspto.gov ******* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 21:24:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20593; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:24:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10904; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:19:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10898; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:19:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc4jR-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:46:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote: > Date: Sat, 4 FEB 1995 11:25:08 -0500 > From: Rheinhardt > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? > > I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please > e-mail. > > press e while reading the mail and it asks you for a filename also you can use v and then press s [0m-- [7mThe above is a result of random neuron activity in the writer's brain. [0m [7m \\\/// [0m / _ _ \ [7m (| (.)(.) |) [0m+---------------------oOOo- () -oOOo---------------------------------+ [7m......| |......................................POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY. [0m......| |.............__ ....__......................... Computer Eng. [7m......| |.\ /\.. | \.../ ..| |...__.......................... [0m......| |..\ / \..|_/..| __ ..|___|../ \../| ..****************** [7m.__...| |...\ /====\.| \..| |..| |.| |. | .. @Barney.poly.edu [0m.\ \_/ /.....\/ \| \..\__|..| |..\__/.._|_ .****************** [7m+.\___/..................oooO........................................+ [0m ( ) Oooo. [7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 22:11:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21686; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:11:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11796; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11790; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:05:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc5SJ-00038QC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID A0001): Suggestion: Edit the text of incomming messages Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:10:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From time to time one receives a non-attached document in the body of the message and some kind of explanation in the beginning. It would be great to have means of automating the vieing of the document in this case. For example, if I have received a *TeX file with some comments, I would like to, say, press E)dit while viewing, which will take me to the editor, cut the actual *TeX lines and save them in a file from the editor. This could be done with or without saving the modifications to the text of the message. -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 22:53:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22801; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:53:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13349; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:49:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13337; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:49:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc6Ao-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag Date: 6 Feb 1995 11:54:36 -0000 Message-Id: <3h52ls$kri@kantti.Helsinki.FI> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Ed Greshko wrote: > > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system >call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account >on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will >show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to >Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that >it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. We use the Firstname.Lastname -type aliases a lot, so our users asked if they could get pine to recognize those aliases too. This alias thing should probably be a configurable option, but I solved it by modifying the source to use the PERSONAL_NAME variable. It's usually set automatically from the gecos field, but can be set from the pinerc too. So, if you set the PERSONAL_NAME to Ed Greshko, this patch gets pine to recognize e-mail sent to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com and tag them with '+'. Note that since the RHS isn't checked at all, this can have surprise effects with, for example, John.Smiths of the world. ---------- 8< ------------------- 8< ----------------- 8< ---------- *** addrbook.c.orig Mon Oct 17 13:58:42 1994 --- addrbook.c Mon Oct 17 14:03:20 1994 *************** *** 7848,7858 **** ADDRESS *a; struct pine *ps; { if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL) return 0; ! /* at least LHS must match */ ! if(strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0 && /* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */ --- 7848,7867 ---- ADDRESS *a; struct pine *ps; { + char *alias, *p; + if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL) return 0; ! alias = fs_get(strlen(ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME) + 1); ! strcpy(alias, ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME); ! ! while ((p = strindex(alias, ' ')) != NULL) ! *p = '.'; ! ! /* at least LHS must match user-id */ ! /* or alias formed from PERSONAL_NAME matches - LadyBug -94 */ ! if((strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0 || ! strucmp(a->mailbox, alias) == 0) && /* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */ -- Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen University of Helsinki Lea doesn't Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI Computing Centre rhyme with tea. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 03:30:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29538; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:30:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22539; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:22:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22533; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:22:01 -0800 Received: from unix.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <05372-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:19:28 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA27684; Wed, 8 Feb 95 11:20:00 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:19:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Don Stimson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as Newsreader In-Reply-To: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The current version of Pine (3.91) doesn't show you how many articles are present in a newsgroup. No indication has been given (that I recall) whether this may be included in a future release; but certainly it gets asked for on and off! The easiest thing for you to do is press the TAB key. TAB normally moves you to the next New (unread) message/article. When reading news if there are no more articles in the current newsgroup it will search on through your list of subscribed groups looking for one that contains articles. If no more newsgroups with articles are found it offers to return you to the INBOX. It may be that the same behaviour applies to mail folders (probably does, knowing the Pine Team's wonderful consistency) but I tend to only use TAB in anger when reading News so haven't noticed. I seem to recall there may be some options in the Setup Configuration screen too worth looking at. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 On 6 Feb 1995, Don Stimson wrote: > I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how > fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to > get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each > newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when > not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same. > > Thanks, Don. > brodon@acy.digex.net > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 05:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04311; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:55:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26315; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:37:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26307; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:37:43 -0800 Received: from [199.218.192.6] (bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us [199.218.192.6]) by bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (8.6.9/A/UX 3.1) with SMTP id FAA00343; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 05:37:10 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 08:37:16 -0800 To: Dan Schlitt From: root@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (Mail automatically resent by Bigbird) Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Cc: Pine List Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote: > The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to > be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect > his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the > revision of the protocol. As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse, by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled. It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout. > I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP > provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to > deal with. But it is a matter of taste. The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately, DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-) > On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. > The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. > one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the > client. It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections, then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure the server that it is still there at periodic intervals. > Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout > between client and server (back to the subject of point one). Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line. > In the > case where the client and server are under the same administrative > control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the > server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important > user base is. As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above) without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and keepalive pings. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 09:17:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13610; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:17:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01370; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cvxfr.fr.convex.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01364; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:02:55 -0800 Received: from cvxfr1.fr.convex.com by cvxfr.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id RAA23650; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:48:57 +0100 Received: (from emile@localhost) by cvxfr1.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id RAA16378 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:49:01 +0100 From: Emile CARCAMO Message-Id: <199502081649.RAA16378@cvxfr1.fr.convex.com> Subject: Pine 3.91 under ConvexOS 11.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:49:00 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1687 Status: O X-Status: Hello, I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus') in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the 'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine : > Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington. > [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message] >Y [Yes] >N No >Error resetting signals: No such file or directory Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message concerning malloc/realloc during build : >Making Pine. >cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c >cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Can't recover from previous errors >*** Exit 1 >`pine' not built due to errors I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented. Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards. ---------------------------------- |\/\/\/| Emile Carcamo (emile@convex.fr) | | Software support engineer | | __________________________________ | (.)(.) C _) /-----------------\ Convex Phone: 331-30-58-93-00 | ,___| ---| I'm proud to be | France Fax: 331-30-45-30-10 | / | a "grouillot".. | /---\ \_________________/ ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 12:41:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23275; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:41:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06551; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:30:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06542; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:29:59 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA05791; Wed, 8 Feb 95 15:28:57 EST Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:28:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Lea Viljanen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: <3h52ls$kri@kantti.Helsinki.FI> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Berkeley mail, if you will pardon the expression, has a provision for specifying a list of alternate names. It is used to remove the alternate names from the list of recipients when replying. But, then, it didn't really have a feature like the personal mail flag so it couldn't use it for that purpose in any case. Perhaps the Pine team could consider such a feature as a part of the configuration. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 13:57:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27380; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:57:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08385; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:48:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08379; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:48:30 -0800 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA21044 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:35 -0500 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.0/5.17) id AA01680; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reply Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 355 Status: O X-Status: Bonjour I have the following problem. I sent a similar question a few days ago and did not get any answer... If someone use the function "reply" to reply to one of my message he gets the following return adress: duhaimj%terre@terre.ircm.umontreal.ca instead of duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca Any idea of how to solve the problem? Johanne Duhaime IRCM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 14:43:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00159; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:43:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10055; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:33:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu4.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10047; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:33:09 -0800 Received: from msi.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA02278 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 95 17:14:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Pine Information Discussion Group Subject: Wyse terminals and pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-792278245=:28724" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here are a few scripts to help solve the "arrow keys in pine on a Wyse terminal" problem. Put them in your "bin" directory and then call "wpine" instead of "pine". Your arrow keys and a few function keys (Prev/Next Page, Line/Char delete) will now work. Beware: if you do multiple session stuff you may wind up with the wrong kind of keys in the wrong screen. Call me if you have questions/suggestions. --- Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS Inc. Compuserve: 72144,1646 ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=wpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3cGluZSAtIG1ha2UgYXJyb3cgKGFuZCBvdGhlcikga2V5cyB3b3Jr IGluIHBpbmUgb24gV3lzZS10eXBlIHRlcm1pbmFscw0KIw0KDQp0cmFwIHd5 c2UucGluZS5yZXNldCAwIDEgMiAzIDE1DQp3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXANCi91 c3IvYmluL3BpbmUNCg== ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.setup" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXAgLSBTZXR1cCBzb21lIGtleXMgb24gYSBX eXNlIHRlcm1pbmFsIHRvIHdvcmsgaW4gcGluZQ0KIw0KDQplY2hvICJcblNl dHRpbmcgdXAgV3lzZSBhcnJvdyBhbmQgZnVuY3Rpb24ga2V5cy4uLiINCg0K IyBOZXh0L1ByZXYgUGFnZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjFyIFwwMTc3XGMiDQpl Y2hvICJcMDMzWjF3LVwwMTc3XGMiDQoNCiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0K DQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDA0XDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDEz XDAxNzdcYyINCg0KIyBBcnJvdyBrZXlzDQoNCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMStcMDMz W0FcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLFwwMzNbQlwwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hv ICJcMDMzWjEuXDAzM1tDXDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMS1cMDMzW0Rc MDE3N1xjIg0KDQplY2hvICJEb25lXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.reset" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUucmVzZXQgLSBSZXNldCBzdGFuZGFyZCBXeXNlIGtl eXMNCiMNCg0KZWNobyAiXG5SZXNldHRpbmcgc3RhbmRhcmQgV3lzZSBhcnJv dy9mdW5jdGlvbiBrZXlzLi4uIg0KDQojIE5leHQvUHJldiBQYWdlDQoNCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMXJcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxd1wwMTc3XGMiDQoN CiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDAxNzdcYyIN CmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDE3N1xjIg0KDQojIEFycm93IGtleXMNCg0KZWNo byAiXDAzM1oxK1wwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjEuXDAxNzdcYyINCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMSxcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLVwwMTc3XGMiDQoN CmVjaG8gIkRvbmUuXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 14:45:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00234; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:45:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10077; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post4.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10071; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:34:14 -0800 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #7723) id <01HMT8GO0YO08WW4TO@asu.edu>; Wed, 08 Feb 1995 15:34:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113220>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:34:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 15:33:53 -0700 From: Shah Subject: Trouble setting standard-printer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Content-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi! We're having trouble having Pine 3.91 reckon and use the printer specified in the system-wide configuration file. We've set "standard-printer=lp" on a SunOS 4.1.3 test host and we get "lpr" for the standard print command. Moreover, we have set "standard-printer=lpr" on a Solaris 2.3 production host and we get "lp" for the standard print command. This also happens on an HP/UX V9.0 host. However, this does not happen on an AIX 3.2.5 host. Any suggestions? This is an important matter to us because we have a customized "lpr." All replies will be much appreciated. -- --1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 16:42:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06409; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:42:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13212; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13194; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:36:59 -0800 Received: by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA10738; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:29:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: slake@gmu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Runaway Pine Processes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 Pine 3.91 Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. I spoke to a few users, and they turned off their PC while still logged on and in the pine program. Is there anything we can do (besides educating our users) with these runaway jobs. If the user was not in pine, and turned off their PC without logging off, the login shell goes away once the connection is gone. But because they are in pine, the login shell does not go away (and neither does the pine). Is this a feature of pine? :-) ---- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 21:27:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14783; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:27:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17690; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:24:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17684; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:24:44 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02412; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:24:28 +0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:24:27 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1208 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote: > One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > reply anywhere else. > I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". The headers on most messages from mailing lists (not this one, unfortunately) include a "From:" field and a "Reply to:" field. Depending on the circumstances, it may be appropriate to reply to the whole list (Reply to), or it may be appropriate to reply only to the original sender (From). Therefore it's appropriate that Pine gives you those options. Why do you want Pine to force you to always reply to the list rather than to the individual? Inquiring minds want to know... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 08:40:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02066; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:40:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28003; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27997; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:27:33 -0800 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id LAA09186 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:32 -0500 Received: (from kam@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA08772; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: Kamala Rickett Subject: Re: Formatting for PINE (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Kamala Dionne Rickett, MHS Research Associate Making the Grade ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:09:17 -0800 From:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: Kamala Rickett Subject: Re: Formatting for PINE (fwd) This is an automated response to your Pine[*] bug report. The purpose of this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. Pine is now used by literally millions of people around the world, and thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no longer possible to answer all of them individually. Alternatives: o In addition to Pine's context-sensitive internal help text, also read the Release Notes (the R command on the Main Menu.) o Check out the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list. To get a copy by email, simply REPLY to this message, or send any message to: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the world-wide "pine-info" email list at: pine-info@cac.washington.edu or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. o If you are handy with FTP or WWW tools, you may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information Center servers: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development team directly, send a message to: pine@cac.washington.edu Note that we get many questions that are not actually about Pine. In case your inquiry concerns programs such as talk, chat, or IRC, or problems with disk space on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses, please contact your local computer support staff. However, we still welcome actual bug reports and suggestions. With sincere apologies for this impersonal response, The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark University of Washington of, and copyright by, the Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 09:12:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03937; Thu, 9 Feb 95 09:12:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28743; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cvxfr.fr.convex.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28737; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:59:23 -0800 Received: from cvxfr1.fr.convex.com by cvxfr.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id SAA07455; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:00:17 +0100 Received: (from emile@localhost) by cvxfr1.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id SAA03492 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:00:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:42:44 +0100 From: Emile CARCAMO Message-Id: <199502091700.SAA03492@cvxfr1.fr.convex.com> To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.91 under ConvexOS 11.0 Cc: emile@cvxfr.fr.convex.com Status: O X-Status: Hello, I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus') in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the 'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine : > Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington. > [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message] >Y [Yes] >N No >Error resetting signals: No such file or directory Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message concerning malloc/realloc during build : >Making Pine. >cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c >cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Can't recover from previous errors >*** Exit 1 >`pine' not built due to errors I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented. Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards. ---------------------------------- |\/\/\/| Emile Carcamo (emile@convex.fr) | | Software support engineer | | __________________________________ | (.)(.) C _) /-----------------\ Convex Phone: 331-30-58-93-00 | ,___| ---| I'm proud to be | France Fax: 331-30-45-30-10 | / | a "grouillot".. | /---\ \_________________/ ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 13:04:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05653; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:04:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04536; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:42:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04520; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:42:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcfby-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs922080@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca (ILAN GRAIFER) Subject: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:29:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, but I wasn't successful in doing so. I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the patches. Thanks Ilan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 13:38:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07365; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:38:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05068; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hilbert.math.ksu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05062; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:12:06 -0800 Received: from weyl.math.ksu.edu by hilbert.math.ksu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+tar) id AA28569; Thu, 9 Feb 95 15:12:04 CST Received: by weyl.math.ksu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07482; Thu, 9 Feb 95 15:12:03 CST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:12:02 -0600 (CST) From: Lige Li Subject: purchase To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear sir: I would like to buy your software. Please let me know how to order it. Please send the information to: ahnik@kusccgx.korea.ac.kr Sincerely, Inkyung Ahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 14:39:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11103; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:39:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06617; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:13:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hertz.njit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06611; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:13:46 -0800 Received: (from exh9152@localhost) by hertz.njit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA14289; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:13:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: add To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help using pine on my home pc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: i will be greatly thanful to anybody who can help me and guide of how to use pine on my home pc.i have tried to use pine from my home but ihad no access.i can use it in the university. there must be some command that i am missing but no one here at the university can help me.please be kind to get in touch with me if you know how to use pine remotly on my home pc. thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 17:04:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18521; Thu, 9 Feb 95 17:04:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10903; Thu, 9 Feb 95 16:37:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from malone.malone.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10897; Thu, 9 Feb 95 16:37:17 -0800 Received: for pickard@malone.malone.edu by malone.malone.edu (4.1/921206.2314) id AA00693; Thu, 9 Feb 95 19:42:18 EST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 19:42:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Pickard X-Sender: pickard@malone To: Pine Mailing List Subject: keystrokes in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use Pine 3.91 on SunOs 4.1.1 via modem (vt100 -- COMit for Windows). Everything seems to work very well except for when I use Pico. The composer in Pine works normally -- control sequences and even the arrow keys with the scroll lock on. But in Pico, nothing seems to work right. No arrow keys and CTRL X is about the only control sequence that works. I know I can hit the ESC key twice in place of CTRL but why does everything work in Pine but not in Pico? I thought they were basically the same thing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Mark Pickard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:17:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26288; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:17:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15309; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:53:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15303; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:53:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnK4-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdemena@castlebbs.com (Steven de Mena) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 1995 07:02:47 GMT Message-Id: <3h4hin$6g2@news.castlebbs.com> References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: John Dulaney (jdulaney@crl.com) wrote: : Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. : I know nothing about computer languages etc. : Much appreciated! : Best, John Try the "sort" command. Read the online manual pages for it to see the parameters: "man sort" -- \\\_''/' ::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-oOO (/o-o\) OOo-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-:: : Steven de Mena - Sysop o (. " .) o Int: sdemena@castlebbs.com : : THE CASTLE bbs (96 lines) \___) ~ (___/ MajorNet: Sysop@TC1 : : Los Angeles, CA, USA BBS: Telnet/199.190.83.2 Modem/(+1) 818.985.6075 : ::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-:: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26448; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15544; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:03:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15538; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:03:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnQ4-00038HC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov Subject: mailcap path to xv? Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:16:12 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: >From mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.govTue Feb 7 12:13:41 1995 Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 11:17:14 -0500 From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime Subject: specifying viewer path in .mailcap? How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and others like mpeg, etc)??? Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)? Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in different directories. Thanks in advance. ======================================================= / \ / / \\\' , / // \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com \ /// > \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) (/ \\ //\\ // // \\\ (( (( ======================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:39:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26783; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:39:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15641; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:13:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15635; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:13:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnc6-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Reel Subject: Re: Changing the from line Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:55:48 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Actually, they can change this from their .pinerc file. However, the system administrator can administratively prevent this. All he/she needs to do is create a pine.conf.fixed file (in addition to the pine.conf file) and make the appropriate settings. What the pine.conf.fixed file does is permanently fixes any settings you do not want your users changing. Guess how we found this out? Yep, our students were coming up with creative "from" names too. Hope this helps Keith Reel ONU System Administrator On 31 Jan 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, David Ewing wrote: > > > Pine 3.05 on AIX 3.2.5. Several students at our institution are changing > > the FROM line in their outgoing mail. For some reason, the sender line is > > not showing up either. They are changing the address to GOD@UNIVERSE. > > Needless to say, the teacher who is receiving most of the mail is curious who > > God really is. Is there a way to insure that the sender will be correctly > > identified. Thanks in advance. > > In later versions (we're up to 3.91 now I think), there IS no FROM line > handed to you, and there is greater control for the system adminstrator. > > B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administration, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > | | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 22:53:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28690; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:53:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16773; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:29:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16767; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:29:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcooW-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu (Ben A. Fairbank) Subject: Pine for DOS machines? Date: 9 Feb 1995 21:32:08 GMT Message-Id: <3he1ko$j82@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Status: O X-Status: I recently saw a reference for Pine for PCs. Is there a version for DOS-based machines, or is it only for UNIX and derivative machines? If it is available, where? Thanks for any answers. Ben Fairbank From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 23:53:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29946; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:53:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17454; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:29:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17448; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcpkR-00038JC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Transferring Message Files? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:12:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You should be able to ftp your folders from one account to the other. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Rollins > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Transferring Message Files? > > > I am in the process of changing service providers. > What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from > my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name) > to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in > usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within > Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing > this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch > out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I > could use as a template for any editing that I might be > required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be > most welcome! > > Mike Rollins > mr@world.std.com > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 00:20:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00801; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:20:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18240; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:09:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18234; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:09:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcqO7-00038PC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Stern Subject: a nice pine icon for a dedicated PINE xterm Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:26:16 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2016125014-792379576=:29212" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! I've figured out some nice tricks: 1) Here is a csh alias to bring up PINE in its own window (put it in your .cshrc): alias xpine "xterm -geometry 80x50+10+10 -n PINE -e /usr/local/bin/pine &" 2) I also looked into the WWW site for pine, http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ and retrieved the little pine.xbm file that is in there. I used xbmtopbm and pbmtoicon to convert this to an icon file which I have attached to this message ;). However, I can't manage one last thing: I want to use that little pine.icon I created with that special xterm! Does anyone know how to associate a particular icon with an xterm? If it matters, I am using mwm. Sorry this isn't really a pine question ... Thanks, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="pine.icon" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: LyogRm9ybWF0X3ZlcnNpb249MSwgV2lkdGg9OTYsIEhlaWdodD02MCwgRGVw dGg9MSwgVmFsaWRfYml0c19wZXJfaXRlbT0xNg0KICovDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHhjMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwNCgkweDAwMDAsMHhjMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDEsMHhmMDAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDEsMHhmMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDBm YywweDFlMDYsMHhjODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywN CgkweDcwMDYsMHhjODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMyww eGUwMDksMHhmNjAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCww eDgwMGUsMHhmNjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDdlLDB4MDAwMCww eDAwMDksMHhmOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDA3LDB4MDc4MCwNCgkw eDAwM2UsMHhjOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAxLDB4MWMwMCwweDAw MzcsMHhmNjAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4ZTAwMCwweDAw NDksMHhjOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4YzAwMCwweDAw MzcsMHhmNmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAx ZjksMHhjZjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAyNGYs MHhmMWMwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwNzcs MHhjOGMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAxZjcs MHhjZjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDcwZjgsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAyMzks MHhmNmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBmYzAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDFmZmYsMHhm ZTIwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDA3MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDcxY2YsMHhm ZmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAyM2YsMHhj OTM4LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAxZjksMHhm NmU0LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAzYmYsMHhmZWY4 LA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBlN2YsMHhmOTA0 LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDFmZmYsMHhmMWUz LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDdkOGYsMHhmZmQ4 LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweGUyN2YsMHhmOWZmLA0K CTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAzZjcsMHhmN2M3LDB4 ODAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBjNzksMHhmOTM4LDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDczOGYsMHhmOGM3LDB4 ODAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMywweGZjN2YsMHhmZmUwLA0KCTB4 NzAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywweDgzZmYsMHhmOWZmLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxYywweDFmZjcsMHhmZmZiLDB4ZjAw MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDBmYjksMHhmZjNmLDB4ZmZl MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDczYzcsMHhmZmM3LA0KCTB4MDNm YywweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMywweGZmZmYsMHhmMWZjLDB4ODAwMCww eDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxZiwweDllMGYsMHhmZjFmLDB4ZjAwMCww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDBmYywNCgkweDcxZmYsMHhmOGZmLDB4OWUwMCww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDM4NywweGVmYmYsMHhmN2MzLA0KCTB4NzNmZSww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNCwweGZmYzcsMHhmZmZmLDB4OGY4MywweDgw MDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywweGZmZmYsMHhmNzNmLDB4MDA2MCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDA3ZiwNCgkweDdlM2YsMHhmZWU3LDB4ZmMwMCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDc5ZiwweDgzY2YsMHhmZWZmLA0KCTB4ZmY4MCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4M2ZlMCwweDFkZmYsMHhmZmZmLDB4MDFmMCwweDAwMDAs DQoJMHgwMDAxLDB4Zjg3YiwweGZkZmYsMHhmZmZmLDB4ZmY4MCwweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxZiwNCgkweDllM2YsMHhmMWRmLDB4ZjNmYywweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MDNlNywweGUzZmYsMHhmOWZmLA0KCTB4OWU3ZSwweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MWZmOCwweDdmZmYsMHhmZmMwLDB4ZmZmZiwweGY4MDAsDQoJ MHgwMDAwLDB4M2M4MywweDhlN2YsMHhmZmZjLDB4MWMwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgw MDA3LDB4Yzc3YywNCgkweGZmY2YsMHhmZmZiLDB4ZTNlMCwweDAwMDAsMHgw MDBlLDB4MDM5ZiwweGZmYjcsMHhmZWZmLA0KCTB4MWUxYywweDAwMDAsMHgw MDAwLDB4M2ZlMywweGZmY2YsMHhmOWRmLDB4ODFmMywweDgwMDAsDQoJMHgw MDA3LDB4ZjgwNywweDgzZmYsMHhmOTA3LDB4ZTAwZiwweGYwMDAsMHgwMDNm LDB4MDA3YywNCgkweDAyNDcsMHhmOGRjLDB4ZjAwMCwweDNlMDAsMHgwMWMw LDB4MDBlMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmOGMwLA0KCTB4MWUwMCwweDAxYzAsMHgwMDAw LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDM4MCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAw LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDA2MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwNCgkweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDANCg== --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 00:24:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00901; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:24:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18150; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:18:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18144; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:18:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcqTU-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Susan Freeman Subject: Re: Sorting... Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 16:11:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order > really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a > newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting > as a permanent feature? > > Thanks very much > > Michele > > **************************************************************************** > Michele Elisa Decker Academic Computing Department > michele@midget.towson.edu Towson State University > http://www.towson.edu/~michele Towson, Maryland . . > @ > O > > Dear Michele When you are in the main menu type s for setup. Request c for configuration. Somewhere in the configuration menu the is a sort menu. Choos whichever sort you want and it will be permanent. The only problem is that you'll get your mail the same way. SusanF. ***************************************************************************** Mary Susan Freeman P.O. Box 3140 University, MS 38677-3140 Phone: 601-562-7175 ecmsf@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (leave a message) ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:09:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02080; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:09:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18860; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:58:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18854; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:58:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcr7B-00038QC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chermesh@techunix.technion.ac.il (Chermesh Ran) Subject: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:56:04 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, i;ve received a note with the following header: Received: by moon.earthlink.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) id ; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST Apparently-From: oconnell@filaw.com To: chermesh Subject: Assistance X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) As you can see, the address is "apparantly" from oconnell@filaw.com. I tried to use the 'R' option on pine to answer, but this address wasn't recognized. Is there a way to solve this minor problem? Ran -- Ran Chermesh E - M A I L Behavioral Sciences Dept. =========== Ben-Gurion University Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL Beer-Sheva 84105 CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL Israel Bitnet : CHERMESH@BGUVM.BITNET Phone: 972-7-472-057 Fax: 972-7-232-766 URL: gopher://gopher.bgu.ac.il:70/00/Ben/res/hum/beh/CHERMESH%2c%20RAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02264; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:12:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19028; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19022; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcrEM-00038HC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au (Seif Zadeh Hossein) Subject: How to get 'filter' do multiple actions on mails? Date: 10 Feb 1995 08:39:42 GMT Message-Id: <3hf8oe$p0b@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Hi there, Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail? Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of the mail. I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the bloody script? I greatly appreciate if anyone could send me a copy of her/his script. Thanks in advance. ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------, | Hossein S. Zadeh | | | Dept of Aerospace Engineering | s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au | | (YES! I AM a rocket scientist!!) | ZADEH@boomerang.aero.rmit.edu.au | | Royal Melb. Inst. of Tech (RMIT) | s921666@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au | | Melbourne, Australia | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Quote of the month: | | The secret to happiness is not doing what one likes, | | but liking what one has to do | '-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:12:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02272; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:12:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18852; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18843; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcrDQ-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevew@gco.apana.org.au (Steven Williams) Subject: Mail bombs - how to avoid? Date: 8 Feb 1995 08:06:13 +1100 Message-Id: <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> Status: O X-Status: Hi Everyone, I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing? Thanks in advance, Steven. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05530; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:26:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20509; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20503; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctAP-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Douglas H. Quebbeman" Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility In-Reply-To: <199502091643.LAA23866@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <199502091643.LAA23866@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:14:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command, which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it, or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982). -- -Douglas H. Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com) "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:26:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05551; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:26:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20699; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20693; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctBs-00038MC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Soergel Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:05:40 GMT Message-Id: <3hcbbk$dgn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Mary Susan Freeman wrote: > Can you get www on pine? No. In a text-based environment, use Lynx. In a graphical environment, use Netscape if you can, otherwise Mosaic. There are some other web browsers available too... Cello for example. The WWW is interactive; you move around in it in real time. Pine does only email and news. -David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:44:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06053; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20828; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:36:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20822; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:36:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctWp-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Re: problems with pico Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:36:02 GMT Message-Id: <3hcd4i$agh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <9501312100.AA25212@alleg.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Liam Relihan wrote: )luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes: >>pico insists on wrapping what IT arrogantly calls "overlong" lines. >>This is a problem when dealing with lines of my incredibly ugly code >>that relies on "overlong" lines. >> >>Is there any way to fix/prevent this (or another editor I can use >>which doesn't do this)? > >Invoke pico with the "-w" option. Wrong. Did you try this? The "-w" option turns off word wrap (automatically moving words to the next line when you get the end of a line). It has no effect on what Pico thinks are lines that are too long. Try editing your .newsrc (which often has long lines) with Pico and you'll see it divide the long lines. -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 04:14:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07488; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:14:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21659; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21653; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcu0E-00038OC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yrhee1@osf1.gmu.edu (Yong-Rim Rhee) Subject: Blinking letters? Date: 10 Feb 1995 00:54:03 GMT Message-Id: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help would be appreciated. Please email Yongrim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 04:15:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07550; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:15:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21471; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21465; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcu1I-00038PC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Arsch Loch Subject: Re: your mail Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 17:43:10 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 1 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: >=20 > > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out ther= e=20 > > knows? meb >=20 > =09Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter > the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with > 2-Byte support). Works fine... Here in Z=FCrich, Switzerland, I type the foreign language of English on the native Swiss-German keyboard. If I were to want to write in one of the native languages, like in German to describe the F=F6hn that one has at times in the Alps, the keys for characters such as =E4 and =F6 and =FC a= re readily available on the keyboard. Or if I were to write in French, those keys =E0 and =E9 and =E8 are also there. And there are dead-keys for the ^= and ` and umlaut to allow me to type =F4 and =C4 and =EC and so on. And I have= keys for =E7 and =A3 and =B0 as well. Not only does this keyboard have the keys for the characters I need, but the communications program I use generates the correct 8-bit codes for these characters to match the ISO 8859-1 character set which I've specified on the configuration screen, last screen. So how do I type these native characters not normally used for English words? Very well and conveniently, thank you. Barry Bouwsma, visiting Z=FCrich, Switzerland after a five hour bike ride from St Gallen just so I could post this message, so now I go back From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 05:38:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09338; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:38:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22645; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:25:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22639; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:25:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcvHj-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: Transferring Message Files? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am in the process of changing service providers. What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name) to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I could use as a template for any editing that I might be required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be most welcome! Mike Rollins mr@world.std.com mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 08:34:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14108; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:34:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25477; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:25:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25471; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:25:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcxzx-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Help forwarding mailbox Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:04:47 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the email addresses of all the students who major in our department. I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without having to retype it? @ @ Thanks, @ @ @ @ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @ \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 09:33:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17865; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:33:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26722; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26716; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcytG-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:27:08 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains wrote: > Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: > : One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > : annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > : reply anywhere else. > : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". > > Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a > different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are > given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From' > (which is usually the author). > > The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To' > address. Thank you for the explanation of what I clearly well knew already! > Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get > asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the > incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time. Our establishment is different to yours, in that lots of people have reply-to set, as our standard email address is @cam.ac.uk, whereas the sending domain & id will be @domain.cam.ac.uk It is usually a mistake to extrapolate from local knowledge and assume it applies widely. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 10:09:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20254; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:09:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27876; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:55:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27870; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:55:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rczOq-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:44 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:44 PST From: pine-list-owner@psg.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:05:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23787; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:05:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29141; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29135; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:56:39 -0800 Received: (from corrigan@localhost) on tty2si3 by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA05590; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:56:36 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:56:36 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Message-Id: <199502101856.KAA05590@weber.ucsd.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pc pine under windows 3.1 + wfwg 3.11 + ms tcp-ip + win32s->GPF Status: O X-Status: That's my configuation. PC pine doesn't work - it dies during startup with a general protection fault. I installed it in the right place. Has anyone got it working with this configuration ? I'd appreciate hearing about it if so - or if not. The machine is a DELL pentium. Thanks -mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:34:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25596; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00369; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:26:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00354; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:26:43 -0800 Received: by narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76763; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:54:17 +0300 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:54:17 +0300 (MEST) From: Murat BICER {KIO} X-Sender: e102260@narwhal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: can you help me how can i generate an auto mail for example for all mails subjected chess i ll send them a catalog automaticly how can i do this thanks lin advance x Murat BICER MasterMinds From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:35:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25753; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:35:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00327; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00321; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:32 -0800 Received: from ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22863; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:30 -0800 Received: by ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16861; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:21:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: LAURA DELUCIA To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: incoming folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive filtering). I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to "Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server. Did I do something wrong, or is Pine appending the ,143 onto my address, therefore making it invalid? On another more trivial note, is there any way to enable the keyboard keys of home, end, backspace, etc.? TIA :-) ---------------------------------- Laura DeLucia ldelucia@ca0285.caso.ca.blm.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27026; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:53:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00456; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:41:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00445; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:40:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd1AC-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Directing Unix Mail to Specific Printer Message-Id: Date: 6 Feb 95 15:54:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am connected to the university, unix-based, computer via a terminal emulating VT-100 and a modem. Attached to my terminal is a printer. How to I direct unix to print pine mail on my printer rather than the default printer? Any help is appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 13:39:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02984; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:39:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03233; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:26:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03227; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:26:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd2mN-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nelsonp@gbms01.uwgb.edu (Philip nelson) Subject: How does Pine update the INBOX Date: 7 Feb 1995 15:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3h84pi$fo0@athena.athenet.net> Status: O X-Status: I am having problems with winsock Pine that might be related to updating the INBOX. Randomly Pine will hang up with an asterisk in the upper left corner. The windows style menus will still work except for Exit but none of the keyboard commands will work. Restarting windows is the only way get Pine back up. My current theory is that Pine is trying to update the contents of the INBOX from our VMS IMAP server. I've noticed that the INBOX is never updated. Must you expunge delted messages first? How is this supposed to work? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 13:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03702; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:54:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03859; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03853; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd2sp-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timc@amersham.co.uk (Tim Clymo) Subject: Compiling under HP-UX 9.04 Date: 9 Feb 1995 18:05:42 -0000 Message-Id: <3hdlhm$1kt@beaver.inet.amersham.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Having downloaded the source for Pine-3.91 from the Liverpool archive, I find I am unable to compile it properly on a 9000 817 running HP-UX 9.04. Make falls over when attempting to compile display.c in the Pico directory and I get the message: Signal 11: segmentation violation. I have tried dropping the optimisation level, but to no avail. Any suggestions gratefully received Thanks Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 14:19:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04604; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:19:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04276; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04270; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:06:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd3Mq-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:00:58 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config screen. Here are some examples: incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth, dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw, "S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp, "This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds, "Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote: > Date: Sun, 5 FEB 1995 23:21:34 +0000 > From: Brad > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Incoming Folders List > > Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the > folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming Message Folders > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > Thanks for any help you can give! > > ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:02:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08760; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:02:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07140; Fri, 10 Feb 95 15:57:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.mhcc.cc.or.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07134; Fri, 10 Feb 95 15:57:42 -0800 Received: by alpha.mhcc.cc.or.us; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Sep94-0205PM) id AA11554; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:01:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Moore To: pine Subject: Config. for Local News groups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have tried repeatedly to setup Pine v3.90 to access local news groups on my DEC AlphaAXP system running OSF/1 v2.0. If the * is in the News Collections entry, I see nothing and can subscribe to nothing. If I leave out the * then I see folder collections in that directory, but then anybody can add and delete messages from those folders if they configure News Collections the same way. Am I missing something here? I am not using NNTP (these are supposed to be local news collections). Or perhaps am I not setting up the files and/or directories correctly. The News Collection entry I am trying to use is: MHCC-News */usr/news[] Any help or clarification on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Moore Internet: jeff@mhcc.cc.or.us Network Specialist (503) 669-6929 (Voice) Mt Hood Community College (503) 492-6006 (FAX) Gresham, Oregon (Portland area) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:21:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09470; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:21:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07513; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07507; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd5GR-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W F (Will) Sill" Subject: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX??? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:44:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: When I SUBSCRIBE to a NEWSGROUP in PINE, should I not expect to see posting to that group in my PINE INBOX? Will@epix.net - the unofficial Mayor of Sill Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:39:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11012; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:39:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07548; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07542; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:32:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd5a1-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yount@seas.smu.edu (Marshall C. Yount) Subject: Pine for ignorant knaves Date: 6 Feb 1995 22:45:34 GMT Message-Id: <3h68qe$4r0@giant.seas.smu.edu> Status: O X-Status: (apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I couldn't find one) I am attempting to assemble a list of resources (essentially a stack of manuals) for new 'Net users at my school. While I can usually find what I want in a man page, the people I am putting this together for are pretty inexperienced with computers and rather frightened of Unix, in particular. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find some simple, easy to read/understand/decypher documents/manuals about Pine (or using FTP, WWW, Gopher, Archie, UseNet etc.). Anyway, if someone could help me find such a file (if it exists), I would be eternally grateful (well, maybe not *eternally*, but at least for five minutes)... Thanks -- -- "Heck I reckon you wouldn't be human beings | yount@seas.smu.edu if you didn't have some pretty strong | MarshallfnordYount feelings about nuclear combat." \------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13742; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09204; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:21:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09198; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:21:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6NP-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: street@phantom.com (sound) Subject: Don't want mailing list in message Date: 4 Feb 1995 04:29:20 GMT Message-Id: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the list. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:49:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14415; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:49:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09224; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:42:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09217; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6la-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Susan Freeman Subject: WWW on Pine? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:53:49 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can you get www on pine? Susan F. ***************************************************************************** Mary Susan Freeman P.O. Box 3140 University, MS 38677-3140 Phone: 601-562-7175 ecmsf@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (leave a message) ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14634; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:59:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09757; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:52:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09751; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:52:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6rj-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: galt@csulb.edu (Charles Galt) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Date: 7 Feb 1995 01:22:01 GMT Message-Id: <3h6hvp$53c@garuda.csulb.edu> References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to request that when I list folders in pine there be a number with each folder name indicating the number of messages contained in each folder. I know I've asked for this some time ago but maybe it's more feasible now?... thanks |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Charles Galt, Professor Tel: 310-985-4808 | | Department of Biological Sciences Fax: 310-985-2315 | | California State University Internet: galt@csulb.edu | | 1250 Bellflower Boulevard Finger: galt@tern.csulb.edu | | Long Beach, CA 90840-3702, USA | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 20:23:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18050; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:23:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11696; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11690; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd9Ak-00038RC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Can you import text files to Pine??? Message-Id: Date: 9 Feb 95 13:38:40 GMT References: <3hatiu$53n@news.compulink.com> Status: O X-Status: mdharris@cml.com () writes: >Hi! >I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only >get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to >pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them >to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time. You can either upload the file directly into the editor using an ascii send function in you comm program, or you could upload the file before entering pine, then use the ^R (Read File) command in pico. >Thanks >mdharris@cml.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ComputerLink Online Inc. 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Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 20:23:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18074; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:23:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11410; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11404; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd98J-00038QC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdharris@cml.com Subject: Can you import text files to Pine??? Message-Id: <3hatiu$53n@news.compulink.com> Date: 8 Feb 95 17:04:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi! I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time. Thanks mdharris@cml.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- : ComputerLink Online Inc. Realms of Despair! : : (416)233-5410 telnet mud.compulink.com 4000 : : 106 lines, 300-28,800 bps endless medieval enjoyment! : : : : Join our International Teleconference --> chat.compulink.com 9000 : --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 23:49:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21809; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:49:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13882; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:32:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13876; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdC9h-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Smith Subject: Return Receipt Function? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:28:51 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am sending e-mail to Indonesia, and the connection is questionable, so is there a way to get a return receipt on mail so that I know it got there? TIA -- ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** PGP Key available via anonymous ftp at: ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc or: finger mksmith@stein.u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 00:41:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23025; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:41:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14672; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:24:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14666; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:24:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdD07-00038JC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: No Threading? Message-Id: Date: 9 Feb 95 17:55:24 GMT References: <3hbfin$nl3@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: In ordered subject, the subjects are sorted by the date of the first message with each subject. In plain subject, they are alphabetic... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Dave Saville wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 FEB 1995 12:39:59 +0000 > From: Dave Saville > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: No Threading? > > On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close... > > > I have never got the hang of the difference between sort by subject and > ordered subject - can someone enlighten me please? > > David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com > Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, > Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 > Happiness is a binary state. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 01:18:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24030; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:18:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15041; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:04:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15035; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:04:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdDf9-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geos@cais2.cais.com (George Stephens) Subject: How to make Pine show headers and exit? Date: 10 Feb 1995 18:06:07 GMT Message-Id: <3hg9uf$gj6@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done? I can easily enter the index and see the headers using -i, but it will not exit on its own. If I try the inputed characters feature like so: -Ii,q to force it to go to the index page and then quit it will pop up a message saying its processing the 'keystokes' and then quits. The header list in the index page *never* gets displayed. Trying variations like '-i -Iq' didnt work either. So how can I get the mail header list displayed and have it exit on its own? I'm trying to use this in my .login script using tcsh. Thanks for your help! George S. -- *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | I don't need no disclaimer... '&` George M. Stephens | | It's my own account! ***-( (geos@cais.com) | | *-*-*-*->Please be patient. .sig under construction.<-*-*-*-* | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 02:49:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25921; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:49:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16372; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:39:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16366; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:39:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdF9n-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edog@oeonline.com (Edward Morykwas) Subject: Apple IMAGEWRITER--How do I print? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 21:31:36 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'm using an Imagewriter II with an Apple IIgs. I've tried the various configurations, but nothing works. I would love to be able to print my mail on paper... but how? E-mail replies, please. Many thanks! -- Edward Morykwas edog@oeonline.com Troy, Michigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 03:50:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27320; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:50:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16946; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:40:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16940; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:40:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdG2N-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jace Crouch Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 03:02:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Feb 1995, sound wrote: > Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or > Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the > list. Thank you. > While in the header, type ^r (rich header) and use the Bcc field. Send the message to yourself using an alias that will help you keep track of who gets what. Since I usually do this when I send messages to students, I use the course number as the nickname, the course name and term date as the full name, and my address as the address. Such an alias makes record keeping a bit easier. Jace From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 05:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00262; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:40:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18486; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18480; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdHrK-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lchompoo@netserv.chula.ac.th (Chompoonut Lohitanon) Subject: Re: testing Message-Id: <3hfqoi$rei@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Date: 10 Feb 95 13:46:58 GMT References: Status: O X-Status: D Kenstavicius (92004010@lambton.on.ca) wrote: : teasing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 05:40:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00284; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:40:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18594; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18588; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdHop-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: How to make Pine show headers and exit? Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:16:39 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hg9uf$gj6@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: How about: cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |grep ^From |page Should do the trick, and should also be a lot faster than loading up Pine just to see what new mail you have! Oh, if you want to see the subject, you could always use: cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |egrep '^From|^Subject' |page ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 10 Feb 1995, George Stephens wrote: > When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my > current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 06:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01500; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:51:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19518; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19512; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:41:15 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:40:53 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:40:53 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Seif Zadeh Hossein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get 'filter' do multiple actions on mails? In-Reply-To: <3hf8oe$p0b@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Seif Zadeh Hossein wrote: > Hi there, > Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail? > Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an > incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of > the mail. > I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script > to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the > bloody script? By "THE" filter I suspect you mean 'filter' from elm. Well, you can't have that with the elm filter. You need to switch to procmail. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 07:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01851; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:10:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19735; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19729; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:00:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdJFB-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: incoming folders Date: 11 Feb 1995 06:13:50 GMT Message-Id: <3hhkiu$a4t@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: LAURA DELUCIA (ldelucia@ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov) wrote: : I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from : various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail : filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive : filtering). : I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to : "Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox : is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address : of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it : was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail : would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for : sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server : ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server. You'll need imapd on those machines. I think what you should do is to forward all mail to this machine and get procmail. Easy to setup, no need to be root to install. Regards, Supak Lailert -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu >> >> lailert@aol.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 07:39:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02324; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:39:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19959; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:30:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19953; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:30:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdJio-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu (Joyce Y. Wong) Subject: Pine available for x windows? Message-Id: <3he2rn$oik@abalone.ucsb.edu> Date: 9 Feb 95 21:52:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is pine available via anonymous ftp for x windows? thanks jywong@squid.ucsb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 08:54:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03798; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:54:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21086; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu4.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21080; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:45:24 -0800 Received: from msi.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA13999 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:43:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 08:28:01 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Pine Information Discussion Group Subject: wpine: script to allow Wyse arrow keys Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-792520081=:16092" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was a dumb little mistake in my "wpine" script: it had an absolute path when it called pine which is not necessary. Originally I had called the script "pine" and put it higher in the path than the binary pine, so I had to call it explicitly. But my system remembers the last place it executes a file from, so the first time I invoked "pine" I got the script, but the second time I got the binary. So I just renamed my script "wpine" but forgot to take out the absolute path. It's easy to edit the script, but I thought I'd repost them. --- Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS Inc. Compuserve: 72144,1646 ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=wpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3cGluZSAtIG1ha2UgYXJyb3cgKGFuZCBvdGhlcikga2V5cyB3b3Jr IGluIHBpbmUgb24gV3lzZS10eXBlIHRlcm1pbmFscw0KIw0KDQp0cmFwIHd5 c2UucGluZS5yZXNldCAwIDEgMiAzIDE1DQp3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXANCnBp bmUNCg== ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.setup" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXAgLSBTZXR1cCBzb21lIGtleXMgb24gYSBX eXNlIHRlcm1pbmFsIHRvIHdvcmsgaW4gcGluZQ0KIw0KDQplY2hvICJcblNl dHRpbmcgdXAgV3lzZSBhcnJvdyBhbmQgZnVuY3Rpb24ga2V5cy4uLiINCg0K IyBOZXh0L1ByZXYgUGFnZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjFyIFwwMTc3XGMiDQpl Y2hvICJcMDMzWjF3LVwwMTc3XGMiDQoNCiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0K DQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDA0XDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDEz XDAxNzdcYyINCg0KIyBBcnJvdyBrZXlzDQoNCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMStcMDMz W0FcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLFwwMzNbQlwwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hv ICJcMDMzWjEuXDAzM1tDXDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMS1cMDMzW0Rc MDE3N1xjIg0KDQplY2hvICJEb25lXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.reset" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUucmVzZXQgLSBSZXNldCBzdGFuZGFyZCBXeXNlIGtl eXMNCiMNCg0KZWNobyAiXG5SZXNldHRpbmcgc3RhbmRhcmQgV3lzZSBhcnJv dy9mdW5jdGlvbiBrZXlzLi4uIg0KDQojIE5leHQvUHJldiBQYWdlDQoNCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMXJcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxd1wwMTc3XGMiDQoN CiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDAxNzdcYyIN CmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDE3N1xjIg0KDQojIEFycm93IGtleXMNCg0KZWNo byAiXDAzM1oxK1wwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjEuXDAxNzdcYyINCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMSxcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLVwwMTc3XGMiDQoN CmVjaG8gIkRvbmUuXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:17:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06774; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:17:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22965; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from camco.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22959; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:08:38 -0800 Received: from raindrop by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0rdNDS-0001HCC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:10 PST Received: by raindrop.seaslug.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA19067; Sat, 11 Feb 95 10:13:23 PST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 10:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Unger To: Veli Pajula Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Win_Pine 3.90 and GPF In-Reply-To: <36c2d8$boq@rannanjarvi.sjoki.uta.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be willing to run a test and send me the result. If so, please download a new test version of pine in ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip (You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name). Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first, then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail it to me. Thanks, Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle On 28 Sep 1994, Veli Pajula wrote: > > Hi ! > > When I try run winsock version of Pine I got GPF > in module PINE.EXE at 000D:D677. > > What could be wrong ? > > Unix version working... > > Thanks > -- > Veli Pajula > email: vmp@sthol.fi or vmp@axil.sjoki.uta.fi > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07146; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23215; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:27:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23209; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:27:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNGj-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: render@massive.uccs.edu (Hal Render) Subject: Re: Full Domain Name in 'From:' field Date: 11 Feb 1995 02:04:30 GMT Message-Id: <3hh5ve$sjm@harpo.uccs.edu> References: <3hag47$p1h@hopi.dtcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: FWIW, I ended up doing a "gross kludge" on this. The routine that sets the return addresses in pine (for both mail and news) is getdomainnames(), defined in the file pine/osdep/domnames. The original function checks to see if there is a local domain name attached to the host name, but if there isn't it simply uses the hostname as both the FQDN and the local domain name. I solved this by tacking on local domain name onto the hostname. This is the only "simple" solution I could see (there's probably a preferred way to get the full domain name from someplace other that gethostname(), but I don't know what it is). What pine could do is allow the user to define a constant set to the local domain and put the code below in an #ifdef-#endif Anyway, here is the diff (replace "uccs.edu" with your local domain name): pine/osdep/domnames 47c47,48 < strncpy(domainname, hostname, dsize-1); --- > strcat(hostname, ".uccs.edu"); > strcpy(domainname, "uccs.edu"); -- hal render univ. of colorado at colorado springs render@massive.uccs.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:46:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07362; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:46:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23085; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23078; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNT9-00038PC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: PINE Return Receipt - HOW? Date: 10 Feb 1995 13:58:40 GMT Message-Id: <3hfreg$k68@news1.digex.net> References: <3gr2lc$dhi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Status: O X-Status: R.G. (rgittis@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com) wrote: : I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return : receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be : nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach : its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this, : please inform. Thank you. In the Pine settings for optional headers, add the undocumented sendmail header 'Return-Receipt-To' and use the ^R command in the message header area and insert your address there. I recommend *not* setting any value in the header; otherwise next time you write to a mailing list you will receive hundreds of return receipts. This is not an "official" header under the RFCs but many mailing systems do honor it, same as the 'Errors-To:' header which is also non-standard. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:54:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07555; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:54:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23481; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:45:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23475; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:45:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNea-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:36:20 GMT References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: sound (street@phantom.com) wrote: > Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or > Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the > list. Thank you. Hit ^R while in the header for 'Rich Header'. This will give you about 4 more fields in the header. You want to use the Bcc field (bliind carbon copy). It'll do exactly what you're looking for. But, you'll still have to use one address at the top of the message. I usually just send the message to myself and have my mailing list in the Bcc field... [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:14:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08109; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:14:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23785; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23779; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdO1d-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Master of Wonder) Subject: ispell as replacement for spell?? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 18:11:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use ispell as a replacement for spell (within pine/pico)? If so, what options are best? If not, where can I ftp a copy of spell please?? Thanks in advance!!! - Andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:14:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08131; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:14:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23535; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23529; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdO1b-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mccreed@ibm.net (Richard McCreedy) Subject: PC-Pine Version for OS/2 DOS Session Date: 10 Feb 1995 04:35:31 GMT Message-Id: <3heqej$9b4@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Status: O X-Status: This wouldn't be like having a "real" OS/2 version of Pine, but as a second-best: how difficult would it be to compile a version of PC-Pine that ran with IBM's TCP/IP for DOS 2.1? That would allow it to run in an OS/2 DOS window using either the internet access kit in Warp, or the DOS/Windows access kit for OS/2 2.1. Lacking an OS/2 Pine, I'd rather run a DOS app than load Windows just to read mail. And, if I'm going to use a DOS version, I'd rather it use OS/2's TCP/IP stack since it's already available. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:17:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08203; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:17:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23865; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:09:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from camco.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23859; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:09:49 -0800 Received: from raindrop by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0rdOAe-000186C; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:11 PST Received: by raindrop.seaslug.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA19193; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:52:03 PST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 11:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Unger To: "D.Buitenhek" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Gen. Prot. Fault with Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be willing to run a test and send me the result. If so, please download a new test version of pine in ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip (You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name). Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first, then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail it to me. Thanks, Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, D.Buitenhek wrote: > I have installed PINE 3.91 on a my PC. Sometimes it is possible to start PINE > but mostly it stops after input of my passwd. > The error message is "Pine Caused a General Protection Fault in the module > PINE.EXE at 0008:B600. > The same error exist when I start to config PINE from PIne] > > Is there a solution for this problem? > > D. Buitenhek > > D.Buitenhek@wbmt.tudelft.nl > University of Delft > Department Mechanical Engeneering > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08550; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24133; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24127; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJB-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Blinking letters? Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:16:21 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote: > I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking > letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it > was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters > (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help > would be appreciated. Please email Yes it IS possible to put escape sequences into almost anything. The question is if one SHOULD. Most often they only work for a certain combination of software & hardware. Sending an odd escape sequence to an unknown setup could screw their session window or worse. Of course it MIGHT actually work. Not advised practice. David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08572; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23861; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23855; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJD-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Help forwarding addresses Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 23:27:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the email addresses of all the students who major in our department. I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without having to retype it? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08593; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23853; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23847; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJ6-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Sorting... Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:11:43 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order > really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a > newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting > as a permanent feature? > Yes and no. You can select sort order in your configuration setup but that also affects your mail sort order. The option for seperate sort defaults for mail & news is on the pine teams todo maybe list. David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09007; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:44:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24276; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24270; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOMR-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Autoresponses to incoming email? help! Date: 10 Feb 1995 15:30:55 GMT Message-Id: <3hg0rf$8ao@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3hbms3$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Wet-Sprocket wrote: >Comes here Mr. John Cobarruvias with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group >in this article on 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT: > + I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of > + auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ" > + in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a > + file to the sender. > + I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon > + the sender or subject. >Procmail is your answer. Subscribe to the procmail mailing list for more info. >"procmail-d@informatik.rwth-aachen.de" That's actually the wrong address. Send your subscription requests to either: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de or procmail-d-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (for the digested version) -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). This is a day for firm decisions! Or is it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:21:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09922; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:21:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24573; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24567; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:12:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOuH-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 10 Feb 1995 18:28:24 GMT Message-Id: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: Sherry H. Lake (slake@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote: : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 : Pine 3.91 : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines. I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh. Any info would be *greatly* appericiated! -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:38:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10278; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:38:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25241; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:30:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25229; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:30:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPM2-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Burge Subject: pico commands Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 15:42:53 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Howdy! Is there a list of pico commands available? Thanks, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:51:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10491; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:51:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25032; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25026; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPN1-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Suggestion for Option re: newsgroups in Pine Date: 10 Feb 1995 14:10:10 GMT Message-Id: <3hfs42$k68@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: I would like to suggest a new option be added to Pine to allow someone to select the option to automatically "delete" a message when the mailbox they are reading is a newsgroup. This would then automatically update their .newsrc file. One would not have to remember to delete articles in order to add them to the "read" list. To be compatible with current pine, the option should default to off, so that people who want this feature would have to turn it on. It might be worthwhile to do it this way: if someone upgrades a config file as a result of the automatic upgrade when their system changes to a new version of Pine, then it should leave the flag defaulted to off; new users who have no config file would default to on. Either that, or inform upgrading users that the option will automatically be set to on and they should disable it if they do not want this feature, the way Pine informs them on the first time they use it during a month and asks if they want to move the current saved mail folder to the name of the previous month. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:51:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10513; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:51:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25425; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25419; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPR9-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:47:27 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h81sk$6k5@doc.jmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Some myths need to be dispelled here. On 7 Feb 1995, Charles Cooley wrote: > [NOOPs] also use network bandwidth, which is a precious resource at some > sites. A TCP/IP datagram containing a NOOP is 86 bytes. 86 bytes transmitted once every several minutes is not a "precious resource" unless you're using 300 baud modems. This is way down in the noise of bandwidth. > Every ACTIVE connection eats away at system > resources, and server administrators take that fact into account when setting > system parameters like timeout value. This is a myth which the designers of TCP and TCP software (especially Phil Karn of KA9Q fame) have tried for years to debunk. By "active connection" you presumably mean "open connection", not "connection actively transferring data" -- inactivity timers have no effect upon the latter and thus it makes no sense to profer it as a solution to the latter "eating away at system resources". Open but inactive TCP connections do not "eat away at system resources". TCBs are not finite resources. A lot more harm than good comes about by server administrators who play around with server timeout values without understanding the underlying mechanisms involved. The purpose of server timeouts is to garbage collect abandoned connections from PCs/Macs which were dropped without a reset, since otherwise the PC will try to reuse the same port after rebooting and find it can't get in. They are otherwise to be avoided at all cost. > You noted that NNTP is different > than other protocols because it doesn't have a NOOP command. You assumed that > it was an omission through error, but perhaps it was a design decision. (I don't > know which is true.) Reinventing history is always fun, but I'd rather not do it here. The NNTP protocol as specified in RFC-977 has a huge number of omissions. In fact, RFC-977 doesn't even specify the protocol that is actually in use. It is never wise to assume intent when error is a plausible explanation. > Again, consider "reconnection" as an alternative to timeout suppression. I fear that it will probably be about the time that hell freezes over that I will finish the long list of tasks to make things work that currently don't work (IMAP4 and IMSP loom high on this ever-growing list), and will have the luxury to go back and redo things that do work. On the other hand, we provide source code. If this is so important to you, why don't you write the code? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:09:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11078; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:09:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25259; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25253; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:00:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPp0-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:18:24 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3h6dkv$ffv@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h6dkv$ffv@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Pine currently only monitors the INBOX for new mail... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 7 FEB 1995 00:07:59 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List > > David L. Miller writes: > > + You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config > + screen. Here are some examples: > > + incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth, > + dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw, > + "S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp, > + "This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds, > + "Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > While this is very useful, is there way to activate Pine's newmail notifier > to notify as soon as there's new mail in anyone of these folders other than > the standard INBOX. > > As my incoming-folders includes INBOX of the localhost as well as other hosts > either via pop3 or imap. > > Many Thanks. > > -- > ---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ > "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:09:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11090; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:09:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25679; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25658; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPp6-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller