From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 1 00:35:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28396; Sun, 1 Jan 95 00:35:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26427; Sun, 1 Jan 95 00:32:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26421; Sun, 1 Jan 95 00:32:49 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA25820; Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:32:03 +0500 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 03:32:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Ava Mckittrick Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Updating Pine In-Reply-To: <3e2sql$s67@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 746 On 31 Dec 1994, Ava Mckittrick wrote: > Unix shell account using bin/bash > I telnet to my account from ix.netcom.com > using pine 3.89 heard update/grade new and improved. > Pine menu gives me opportunity to select an upgrade and > then dl me a big mondo Pine.zip file to my shell account. > Do i need to bring this pine.zip back to my pc and unzip > and then do the installation by ftp the files/files back? > Any help would be appreciated.. The upgrade option in Pine is for PC-Pine, not for the Unix version you use on your dial-up shell account. You need to badger your system administrator to upgrade to Pine 3.91. It isn't something you can do yourself. ------------------------------------- Chip Old From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 1 05:19:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04724; Sun, 1 Jan 95 05:19:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29848; Sun, 1 Jan 95 05:12:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29842; Sun, 1 Jan 95 05:12:34 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 1 Jan 95 21:11:09 -0800 Date: Sun, 1 Jan 1995 21:11:07 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Marty Brenneis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Still can't open INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Marty Brenneis wrote: > So I still can't get pine to find my host. > I set the inbox to match that shown in the manual (yes, I did > insert my host's name). No matter how I format the name of the host > I get an error #11004 that states it can't find the host. I can > ping the host with no problem. I can access my mail with the Netmanage > mail program (bleah). I am using Netmanage Chamelon Sampler for the > TCP/IP winsock stuff. Other clues, I can read news from the news site > here. > > Anyone got more hints? The info-pine<--->comp.mail.pine gateway has been down....and maybe I missed some discussion on this.....but... What do you get when you do: telnet hostname 143 Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 1 18:52:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16368; Sun, 1 Jan 95 18:52:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10922; Sun, 1 Jan 95 18:38:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10914; Sun, 1 Jan 95 18:38:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOcUu-00038CC; Sun, 1 Jan 95 18:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfrisch@io.org Subject: OS/2 version of Pine? Date: 2 Jan 1995 00:45:19 GMT Message-Id: <3e7iav$n31@ionews.io.org> Is there an OS/2 version of Pine available that works with a POP mail server? If this is a FAQ, please direct me to the source of the FAQ. Thank you very much in advance! Mike - Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 1 19:45:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17262; Sun, 1 Jan 95 19:45:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09120; Sun, 1 Jan 95 19:24:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09114; Sun, 1 Jan 95 19:24:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOdIt-00038CC; Sun, 1 Jan 95 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) Subject: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Date: 1 Jan 1995 22:07:56 -0500 Message-Id: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... But I can't get it to connect up to my terminal emulation program's zmodem requestor. Piping from Elm and from Tin work just fine. The sysadmin gave me some non-understanable explaination about why the Pine pipe command doesn't work with 'sz'. Is the pipe command in Pine _that_ different from that of Elm (and Tin)? -- **** cjolley@iac.net **** All opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 03:04:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25720; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:04:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17005; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:00:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16999; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:00:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOkQQ-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 02:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: WANTED: Way to add delimiter to exported msgs Date: 2 Jan 1995 04:52:49 -0600 Message-Id: <9601021101.AA07964@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <3e2hrv$4g6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> In article <3e2hrv$4g6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) write: |> Comes here Mr. John Moran with this opinion in the"comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 30 Dec 1994 01:10:26 GMT: |> |> + I regularly use Pine's export feature to save e-mail messages to |> + several different subject files. I would like to then import these files |> + into a database. But I need to find a way to add a delimiter character or |> + string to the exported messages so that can be separated from each other. |> + Is there a way to do this in Pine? |> |> Hmmm...when you export a set of e-mail to a same file using the append feature |> each mail is separated from one another by the From: header info for that mail. NO ! The separator line is not the "From:" (From-colon) header line (part of the mail header, in any order, and even duplicated sometimes), but the "Unix From" line (From starting in column one and followed by a blank space). There is a single From line at the beginning of each message (this is guaranteed by a device in the mailig s/w such that any line starting with From-blank is changed to >From ), followed by the mail header, a blank line, the mail body ... then another Unix From line starts the next message -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 03:36:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26539; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:36:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15047; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:30:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15041; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:30:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOkpz-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 03:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) Subject: Re: 8BIT or QUOTED-PRINTABLE in Pine Usenet News articles Date: 2 Jan 1995 11:19:44 -0000 Message-Id: <3e8ngg$6nd@kantti.Helsinki.FI> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jacob Palme wrote: >When I write articles to Usenet News, using Pine set on the ISO 8859-1 >character set, then PINE uses the Quoted-Printable encoding. Very >few newsreaders can read Quoted-Printable, so this makes my articles >very difficult to read if they contain many characters with the 8th >bit set. Apply the following patch to Pine sources and read news by using "pine -use_qp 0". ---------- 8< ------------- 8< ------------------ 8< --------------- (pine-3.90-patch-8bit.txt A 940905 PSv) Patches to pine 3.90 ==================== These are patches to get the following: * Correction to the when-to-QP-encode code: The 30% limit must be paired with a lower length limit, or else very short letters could mysteriously sometimes be BASE64-encoded, because of a too high non-ASCII character ratio. (For getting just this correction, see the changes to line 3263-3266 in send.c.) * New command line parameters: -use qp [0 or 1] Use MIME encoding quoted printable for text, not 8-bit. (Default XX, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.) -mime_8 [0 or 1] If text contains 8-bit text, use MIME. (Default YY, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.) * New config parameters (on which the XX and YY defaults above depends): DEFAULT_NOT_USE_QUOTED_PRINTABLE - Corresponds to "-use_qp 0" Enable this *only* if your sending software have the ESMTP 8BITMIME extension avaliable and enabled. (See RFC 1425 and RFC 1426.) DEFAULT_USE_NON_MIME_8BIT_LOCALLY - Corresponds to "-mime_8 0" Enable this *only* if your sending software transforms messages to 7-bit before sending them outside your domain, or if it transforms it to MIME and uses ESMTP 8BITMIME (see above). (I do *not* take any responsibility for the functionality of Pine 3.90 after applying this patch!) --- Peter Svanberg, Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- *** pine.h.DIST Thu Aug 25 04:55:22 1994 --- pine.h Wed Aug 31 17:04:59 1994 *************** *** 1048,1049 **** --- 1048,1052 ---- + unsigned mime_encode_8bit_text:1; + unsigned mime_use_qp_encoding:1; + unsigned noshow_error:1; *** args.c.DIST Thu Aug 18 19:19:47 1994 --- args.c Mon Sep 5 22:12:13 1994 *************** *** 111,112 **** --- 111,124 ---- + #ifdef DEFAULT_USE_NON_MIME_8BIT_LOCALLY + pine_state->mime_encode_8bit_text = 0; + #else + pine_state->mime_encode_8bit_text = 1; + #endif + + #ifdef DEFAULT_NOT_USE_QUOTED_PRINTABLE + pine_state->mime_use_qp_encoding = 0; + #else + pine_state->mime_use_qp_encoding = 1; + #endif + /* while more arguments with leading - */ *************** *** 147,148 **** --- 159,174 ---- goto Loop; + }else if(strcmp(*av, "mime_8") == 0) { /* PSv */ + if(--ac){ + pine_state->mime_encode_8bit_text = atoi(*++av); + }else{ + pine_state->mime_encode_8bit_text = 1; + } + goto Loop; + }else if(strcmp(*av, "use_qp") == 0) { /* PSv */ + if(--ac){ + pine_state->mime_use_qp_encoding = atoi(*++av); + }else{ + pine_state->mime_use_qp_encoding = 1; + } + goto Loop; }else if(strcmp(*av, "sort") == 0){ *************** *** 367,368 **** --- 393,404 ---- { + int mime_encode_8bit_text = 1; + int mime_use_qp_encoding = 1; + + #ifdef DEFAULT_USE_NON_MIME_8BIT_LOCALLY + mime_encode_8bit_text = 0; + #endif + #ifdef DEFAULT_NOT_USE_QUOTED_PRINTABLE + mime_use_qp_encoding = 0; + #endif + /** print out possible starting arguments... **/ *************** *** 396,397 **** --- 432,439 ---- printf("\t -a\t\tSpecial anonymous mode for UWIN\n"); + + printf("\t -use_qp [0 or 1]\n\t\t\tUse MIME encoding quoted printable for text, not 8-bit.\n\t\t\t(Default %s, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.)\n", + mime_use_qp_encoding ? "yes" : "no"); + printf("\t -mime_8 [0 or 1]\n\t\t\tIf text contains 8-bit text, use MIME.\n\t\t\t(Default %s, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.)\n", + mime_encode_8bit_text ? "yes" : "no"); + /* WHILE TESTING FOLDERS */ *** send.c.DIST Fri Aug 26 20:36:55 1994 --- send.c Mon Sep 5 22:11:11 1994 *************** *** 3078,3079 **** --- 3078,3081 ---- + body->mime_allowed = 1; + #ifndef DOS *************** *** 3263,3266 **** } ! else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L) { /* * The 30% threshold is based on qp encoded readability --- 3265,3269 ---- } ! else if ((eight_bit_chars * 100L)/len < 30L || len < 100) { /* + * Less than 30% 8-bit or shorter than 100 chars. * The 30% threshold is based on qp encoded readability *************** *** 3273,3275 **** if (new_encoding != ENCBINARY) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; /* short lines, < 30% 8 bit chars */ }else { --- 3276,3281 ---- if (new_encoding != ENCBINARY) ! new_encoding = ENC8BIT; /* short lines, few 8 bit chars */ ! if (!ps_global->mime_encode_8bit_text) { ! body->mime_allowed = 0; ! } }else { *************** *** 3589,3591 **** ! if (body && !header->env->remail) { /* not if remail or no body */ if((f && !(*f)(s, MIME_VER)) --- 3595,3598 ---- ! if (body && !header->env->remail && body->mime_allowed) { /* PSv */ ! /* not [if remail or no body structure or !mime_allowed] */ if((f && !(*f)(s, MIME_VER)) *************** *** 3803,3805 **** case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; --- 3810,3813 ---- case ENC8BIT: /* encode 8BIT into QUOTED-PRINTABLE */ ! if (body->mime_allowed && ps_global->mime_use_qp_encoding) ! gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); break; *************** *** 3859,3861 **** body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! body->encoding == ENC8BIT ? ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : --- 3867,3872 ---- body_encodings[body->encoding == ENCBINARY ? ENCBASE64 : ! (body->encoding == ENC8BIT ! && body->mime_allowed ! && ps_global->mime_use_qp_encoding) ? ! ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE : body->encoding <= ENCMAX ? body->encoding : *** makefile.???.DIST Tue Jul 26 00:21:59 1994 --- makefile.??? Mon Sep 5 02:27:17 1994 *************** If desired add -DDEFAULT_NOT_USE_QUOTED_PRINTABLE or -DDEFAULT_USE_NON_MIME_8BIT_LOCALLY to the line starting CFLAGS= ... *** ../c-client/mail.h.DIST Thu Aug 18 07:25:15 1994 --- ../c-client/mail.h Mon Sep 5 21:53:03 1994 *************** *** 238,239 **** --- 238,240 ---- } size; + unsigned short mime_allowed; /* (PSv) MIME allowed? (internal status) */ }; (pine-3.90-patch-8bit.txt END) -- Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen University of Helsinki Lea doesn't Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI Computing Centre rhyme with tea. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 07:32:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02491; Mon, 2 Jan 95 07:32:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20540; Mon, 2 Jan 95 07:25:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20534; Mon, 2 Jan 95 07:25:41 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA08159; Mon, 2 Jan 95 10:25:03 EST Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 10:25:02 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Lucio Chiappetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: WANTED: Way to add delimiter to exported msgs In-Reply-To: <9601021101.AA07964@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As was corresectly pointed out to me by others, the export command does not use the Berkley mail separator. Unless Pine reorders the headers when it exports a message, the From: method will also not work reliably. The best method might be to pipe the message to a script which appends the message to the file and inserts the separator. The alternative may be having the program which imports the messages into the database parse all the headers in the file with exported messages. This is not a very nice solution. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 On 2 Jan 1995, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In article <3e2hrv$4g6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) write: > |> Comes here Mr. John Moran with this opinion in the"comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 30 Dec 1994 01:10:26 GMT: > |> > |> + I regularly use Pine's export feature to save e-mail messages to > |> + several different subject files. I would like to then import these files > |> + into a database. But I need to find a way to add a delimiter character or > |> + string to the exported messages so that can be separated from each other. > |> + Is there a way to do this in Pine? > |> > |> Hmmm...when you export a set of e-mail to a same file using the append feature > |> each mail is separated from one another by the From: header info for that mail. > > NO ! > The separator line is not the "From:" (From-colon) header line (part > of the mail header, in any order, and even duplicated sometimes), > but the "Unix From" line (From starting in column one and followed > by a blank space). > > There is a single From line at the beginning of each message (this > is guaranteed by a device in the mailig s/w such that any line > starting with From-blank is changed to >From ), followed by the > mail header, a blank line, the mail body ... then another Unix From > line starts the next message > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign > via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign > Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | > Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 08:03:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02987; Mon, 2 Jan 95 08:03:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20862; Mon, 2 Jan 95 07:57:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20856; Mon, 2 Jan 95 07:57:39 -0800 Received: by poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it (5.65/1.34) id AA09030; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:09 +0100 Organization: Istituto di Fisica Cosmica e Tecnologie Relative Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:05:07 +0100 (MET) From: Lucio Chiappetti Subject: Re: WANTED: Way to add delimiter to exported msgs To: Dan Schlitt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Dan Schlitt wrote: > As was corresectly pointed out to me by others, the export command does > not use the Berkley mail separator. Unless Pine reorders the headers > when it exports a message, the From: method will also not work reliably. > The best method might be [...omissis...] When I was mentioning the use of the "Unix From" line (see below), I was NOT referring to the Pine "export" command (which exports a single mail) but to the Pine "save" command ! The "Unix From" line can be used as delimiter when parsing FOLDERS !! > On 2 Jan 1995, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > > > NO ! > > The separator line is not the "From:" (From-colon) header line (part > > of the mail header, in any order, and even duplicated sometimes), > > but the "Unix From" line (From starting in column one and followed > > by a blank space). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 08:35:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03517; Mon, 2 Jan 95 08:35:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21213; Mon, 2 Jan 95 08:30:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21207; Mon, 2 Jan 95 08:30:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOpWX-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 08:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alexrs@world.std.com (Alex R Stevenson) Subject: creating quotes Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 16:22:03 GMT I cannot figure out how to create quotes - single or double - in pine (or in Unix for that matter) on my Mac. Any suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 10:52:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06241; Mon, 2 Jan 95 10:52:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22986; Mon, 2 Jan 95 10:48:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22980; Mon, 2 Jan 95 10:48:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA06552; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:47:40 -0600 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 12:47:39 -0600 (CST) From: "Robert A. Hayden" To: Pine Info Subject: Turning off news Message-Id: X-Geek_2.1: GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++ X-Geek_2.1: P+>++ L++ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)> Y++ t+ 5+++ j X-Geek_2.1: R+++ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** X-Pgp-Fingerprint: D1 0B 53 C9 9A 2F 29 A5 76 2A 5A F6 EC 27 AB B9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to COMPLETELY shut off the reading of news in 3.91? We have to read news via NNTP from another machine and if there is some lag or something on that machine, it can take several minutes to start. Rather annoying. What I'd like is for it NOT to build the folders, but still allow me to post to a newsgroup. Can this be done? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> All I want is a cure... \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> And all my friends back! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 12:15:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07720; Mon, 2 Jan 95 12:15:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21670; Mon, 2 Jan 95 12:09:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21664; Mon, 2 Jan 95 12:09:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOssO-00038FC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 11:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: emartin@ibm.net Subject: pop3d for Solaris2.3? Date: 2 Jan 1995 19:42:10 GMT Message-Id: <3e9kui$2as0@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Can anyone tell me where I can get pine for Solaris2.3. I understand It comes with a pop3 server, which is what Im really looking for. Thanks Ernie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 14:34:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10776; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:34:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23648; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:31:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23642; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:30:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOvAV-00038FC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arwhead@tyrell.net (Bill Murray) Subject: Somthng other than vt100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 18:47:55 GMT I can't get my compiled version of PINE3.91 to work with a terminal emulation other than vt100. When I run pine-bin.solaris for solaris2.x it comes up with an error message and never runs pine. The error is: Your terminal, of type "vp", is lacking functions needed to run pine. And it's not just vp but many other emulations. I've tried pine on another solaris machine and it works with the emulations I'm trying but my compiled version does not. WHAT's WRONG? Bill Murray arwhead@tyrell.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 14:34:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10805; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:34:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26154; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:30:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26148; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:30:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOvAU-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 14:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arwhead@tyrell.net (Bill Murray) Subject: Terminal Emulations Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1994 16:56:16 GMT How do you set up other terminal emulations for PINE besides vt100. SPECIFICALLY, vp or ADDS VIEWPOINT. Pine says that it does not support pine. Isn't there something I can change in the configuration file of pine without changing my terminal emulation to something other than vt100 or vt220 or whatever. I want to use vp. Any ideas? Bill Murray arwhead@tyrell.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 15:20:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12185; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:20:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26981; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:18:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26975; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:18:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOvsX-00038bC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: re36648@deere.com (Dave Smart) Subject: Can't find 'aliases' equiv for pine Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 20:55:19 GMT Apologies in advance if this is completely obvious... I'm new to pine, and involved with installing it (sound fun?) I want to setup aliases like firstname.lastname, and have found that the file 'aliases' does this for the sendmail utility, but pine does not read this file. Documentation is minimal, so I've been browsing for that as well. Thanks Dave Smart voice: 319/292-8776 fax: 319/292-8032 e-mail: re36648@deere.com s-mail: John Deere PEC P.O. Box 8000 M/S-81A Waterloo, IA 50704-8000 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 15:26:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12311; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:26:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24579; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:23:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24573; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:23:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOvvZ-00038cC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottc@online.dct.com (Scott Chapman) Subject: Pine on SCO 3.2v4.2 w mmdf Date: 2 Jan 1995 22:14:18 GMT Message-Id: <3e9trq$fkd@fullfeed.fullfeed.com> If anyone has gotten Pine 3.91 and associated programs going on the latest release of SCO 3.2v4.2 please send me a little mail if you have any helpful hints. I would prefer to clean up some of the warning messages, and short of telling the compiler to shut up, maybe there are a few other #defines, etc that I could set to clean up some of them before I start to track them down and fix them. Once that is done, I would then like to start doing some MINIMAL site specific changes also, in the easiest to update method I can find. If there is a SCO/Pine place to look, please point me in the right direction. Thanks in advance for any help! schapman@acm.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 15:59:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13007; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:59:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27488; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:56:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from astro.ocis.temple.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27482; Mon, 2 Jan 95 15:56:35 -0800 Received: by astro.ocis.temple.edu (5.61/25) id AA00588; Mon, 2 Jan 95 18:56:33 -0500 From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Message-Id: <9501022356.AA00588@astro.ocis.temple.edu> To: Andrew Sweger Cc: Dan Schlitt , Wet-Sprocket , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu Subject: Re: WANTED: Way to add delimiter to exported msgs In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 31 Dec 94 13:14:02 -0800. Date: Mon, 02 Jan 95 18:56:32 EST From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 17:19:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14982; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:19:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28698; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:16:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28692; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:16:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOxiU-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: cmsg cancel <9501022356.AA00588@astro.ocis.temple.edu> Control: cancel <9501022356.AA00588@astro.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 3 Jan 1995 00:56:58 GMT Message-Id: <3ea7cq$kb0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 17:59:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15654; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:59:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26596; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:55:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26590; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:55:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOyHt-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gc617952@netserv.chula.ac.th (Charn Ariyakul) Subject: [Q] PC-PINE Source Code Date: 25 Dec 1994 01:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <3diibc$n92@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 18:22:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16110; Mon, 2 Jan 95 18:22:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29488; Mon, 2 Jan 95 18:16:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29482; Mon, 2 Jan 95 18:16:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOyhz-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 18:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@tigger.jvnc.net (Prof. Peter J. Holsberg) Subject: Re: Can't Find .newsrc Message-Id: References: <3e2kou$4g6@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 02:00:58 GMT shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) writes: >Comes here Mr. Pete Holsberg with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 22 Dec 1994 17:47:03 GMT: > + = News *{tecoma.mccc.edu}[] > + = can't connect to tecoma, 143 > + = conenction refused > + =Is that an imapd problem??? >On the other hand it could be a /etc/hosts problem on the tecoma.mccc.edu >machine. Would it be possible that that nntp-server is denying news-reading >access to the Unix-ware machine? No. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 19:21:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17191; Mon, 2 Jan 95 19:21:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00273; Mon, 2 Jan 95 19:16:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00267; Mon, 2 Jan 95 19:16:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rOzdi-00038CC; Mon, 2 Jan 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gurupubl@crl.com (Brian Goss) Subject: Problem posting UUencoded files with PINE? Date: 2 Jan 1995 19:06:04 -0800 Message-Id: <3eaeus$g4q@crl4.crl.com> I am having problems using the Read File option in pine to read in a uuencoded file. When I read in the file, pine says LINE TOO LONG and automatically wraps all the text. This, in turn, basically corruptes the uuencoded data. Can anyone help me with this problem? BG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 22:49:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20823; Mon, 2 Jan 95 22:49:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00279; Mon, 2 Jan 95 22:40:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00273; Mon, 2 Jan 95 22:40:13 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA29226; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 01:38:54 +0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 01:38:54 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Alex R Stevenson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: creating quotes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 912 On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Alex R Stevenson wrote: > I cannot figure out how to create quotes - single or double - in pine (or > in Unix for that matter) on my Mac. Any suggestions? ??? I must be missing something obvious here. Do you mean quotation marks like "this" and 'this'? If so, then you just type them, just as you would in anything else. What happens when you try to type quotation marks? If they are not echoed back from the Unix box, then either your telecomm software is doing something strange to your Mac's keyboard mapping (see your telecomm software's documentation), or the Unix box is rejecting those characters for some reason (ask your System Administrator). I use a Mac too, and use Microphone Pro (or occasionally ZTerm) telecomm software. I have no trouble sending quote characters to Pine and Unix. ------------------------------------- Chip Old From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 2 23:15:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21363; Mon, 2 Jan 95 23:15:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00583; Mon, 2 Jan 95 23:10:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00577; Mon, 2 Jan 95 23:10:34 -0800 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA07259; Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:08:26 -0800 Date: Mon, 2 Jan 1995 23:08:25 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an OVERTYPE mode in Pico? :::::; . , Michael Schuyler .., `:::::: :::;' /) - * - michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us - + - (\ `::::: ::' / ) ':` Kitsap Regional Library, 1301 Sylvan Way ':` ( \_ ` : :' _( (_ _ Bremerton, WA 98310 (360) 405-9139 _ ) )\ />: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 06:02:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29961; Tue, 3 Jan 95 06:02:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05534; Tue, 3 Jan 95 05:57:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05528; Tue, 3 Jan 95 05:57:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rP9XZ-00038KC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 05:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Morris Subject: View Message screen constantly redraws? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:35:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I am viewing a message, every minute or half minute or so the screen either redraws itself or makes some minor change. With my telnet program, if I'm on another connection, it tells me when something changes on the connections I'm not looking at right now. If I leave pine 3.91 in the view message screen and flip to another connection, it will soon tell me that something has changed on the pine connection, but it really hasn't. Does anyone know what is going on and why? - Jeff P.S. In 3.91, is there a way to specify how often you want it to check for new mail? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 06:10:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00215; Tue, 3 Jan 95 06:10:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08296; Tue, 3 Jan 95 06:05:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08290; Tue, 3 Jan 95 06:05:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rP9gW-00038OC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 05:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berliner@netcom.com (Guy Berliner) Subject: Dumb Question: Why Does My Terminal Lock Up? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 06:58:30 GMT I just started using PINE 3.89, and everything goes swimmingly until I try to read news. I enter the folder list, go into the news collection, punch return when I see the words [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] in inverse video. And then my terminal locks up. Can't suspend, can't kill, can't do anything. What foolish thing am I doing to cause the program to hang this way? When I set news-collections=News *{foo.bar.edu/nntp}[*] where foo.bar.edu is a news server to which I have access, I have no problems. But when I try to use my local host at Netcom by changing the .pinerc entry to news-collection=News *[*] then my terminal locks up when I try to read news, like I said. I'm sure I'm doing something dense. I'm sure I must have to specify the news directory, /var/spool/news, or something. But where? Should I be setting an environment variable in my .profile or something? Please forgive me for asking this newby question, but though I've rtfm'ed it, I'm honestly at a loss now. Thanks in advance. BTW: If possible, please mail me a response, as I don't regularly read this newsgroup. Thanks. Guy Berliner -- Finger berliner@netcom18.netcom.com for pgp key. Please send me encrypted mail! Everyone else will see gibberish, but I'll only see plaintext, cause I just push the "Decrypt" button in my copy of Windows Z-mail! (Ask me for more info.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 07:50:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02211; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:50:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07000; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:42:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06994; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:42:19 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:40:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 23:40:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Jeff Morris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: View Message screen constantly redraws? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Jeff Morris wrote: > If I am viewing a message, every minute or half minute or so the screen > either redraws itself or makes some minor change. With my telnet > program, if I'm on another connection, it tells me when something changes > on the connections I'm not looking at right now. If I leave pine 3.91 in > the view message screen and flip to another connection, it will soon tell > me that something has changed on the pine connection, but it really > hasn't. Does anyone know what is going on and why? Hummm...you are using pine 3.91. I believe the default interval for checking for new mail was changed to 2.5 minutes or so... In any event, when pine 3.91 checks for new mail it will put an * in the upper left corner. This is maybe what you are seeing. You can disable the * cue in the configuration with: [X] enable-mail-check-cue > P.S. In 3.91, is there a way to specify how often you want it to check > for new mail? Yes, but I for got what .h file it is... :-( ;-( Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 08:04:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02700; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:04:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07258; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:57:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07252; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:57:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPBRx-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 07:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peter-wa@dsv.su.se (Peter Wastholm) Subject: Re: Inverse Video - change it Date: 3 Jan 1995 15:16:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ebpoi$f6d@erinews.ericsson.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In article , karenoel@iglou.iglou.com wrote: > >I used to have a -> to show which letter was chosen. Now it is highlighted >with what I think is called Inverse Video. > >How do I get the -> back? > I read somewhere in the docs that Pine tries to detect if you're sitting on a slow modem line. If it thinks that you are, selection is marked with a -> instead of the usual reverse video. Have you changed modems recently or something? Anyway, maybe you can force Pine to display selected letters the way you want, but I can't help you there. /Peter Wastholm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 08:24:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03428; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:24:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10323; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:20:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10308; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:20:54 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01338; Tue, 3 Jan 95 08:20:53 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:02:04 -0600 (GMT-0600) From: Nick Boris X-Sender: nmboris@mulberry To: "David L. Miller" Subject: PC-PINE & X.400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 08:20:47 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Happy New Year to all! Anyway one of these questions may have already been answered here (several times) but I have (repetadly) missed it. The other question may not be appropriate for this gorup (and you are free to tell me so) but I figured that I might as well try. 1) I had been trying to set up PC-Pine about a month ago (before romping off to CERN for HTML goo and vacation) and was told my my MIS bud that he had not installed IMAP systme-wide. When I returned he said that IMAP is not up and running so that we sould try to figure out how to get it running now that we are starting to dissimnate a SLIP/PPP package to any of our users who want it. Specifically we want (I want) to set it up so that it leaves all the mailboxes on the server machine and leaves all the dial-up clients alone. Can this be done so that it reads & writes to the multiple folders in the ~/mail directory? What is the syntax for this and for readin from the inbox {artsci.wustl.edu}. I also remember something about not being able to share a .newsrc between Client and Server. Is this true? 2) How do you communicate with someone on an X.400 gateway? (Yes you can scream at me about how stupid I am for not knowing this. Hey I don't do Sendmail just httpd! Besides two degress in english doth not a guru make) Thanks in advance, Nick nmboris@artsci.wustl.edu http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~nmboris/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 09:18:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05911; Tue, 3 Jan 95 09:18:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09108; Tue, 3 Jan 95 09:12:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09102; Tue, 3 Jan 95 09:12:21 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (bsherman@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA25213 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:12:21 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Peter Wastholm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Inverse Video - change it In-Reply-To: <3ebpoi$f6d@erinews.ericsson.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jan 1995, Peter Wastholm wrote: > Subject: Re: Inverse Video - change it > > In article , karenoel@iglou.iglou.com wrote: > > > >I used to have a -> to show which letter was chosen. Now it is highlighted > >with what I think is called Inverse Video. > > > >How do I get the -> back? > > > Under the Pine 3.91 Config options find the option: show-selected-in-boldface and unselect it. *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* | _---_ "You can make a program fool-proof but then someone comes | | (o o) along and makes a better fool" Murphy's Law | *-----ooO--~--Ooo-------------------------------------*-------------------* | Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager | | E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman | | snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. *---------------* | Portland, OR USA 97209 | Opinions Expressed Here Are All Mine. | Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 | No-One Else Will Claim Them. | Fax: 503-222-7465 | *-------------------------------------* (oo) (oo) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 10:32:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10307; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:32:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13624; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:26:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13610; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:26:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPDkQ-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 10:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Time zone mvar PC-Pine Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 10:10:34 CST Message-Id: The instructions in the tech notes for Pine are not really clear about the proper use and format of the TZ environment variable for setting the correct local Time Zone time in msgs created by PC-Pine. It says the TZ variable is xxxnnyyy where xxx is the abbreviation for the Standard (non-daylight-savings) Time Zone, nn is the offset from GMT, and yyy is the Daylight savings time zone abbreviation. In my case (Illinois, USA) this should be CST-6CDT (since we are 6hrs behind or later than GMT) However when I do this, PC-Pine sets the msg time to GMT+6 which is really the correct time for India or SE Asia, not the USA. When I set TZ to CST6CDT I get the correct time setting. I guess it is not necessary to use 2 numerals (such as 06) but what is the correct setting for number greater than 1 digit (e.g. 11 hrs)? What is the correct setting for (New Zealand or Fiji) which is on the Int'l Date Line and +12 hrs from GMT. What is the correct setting for Newfoundland (Canada) which is -3.5 hrs GMT? Also, will PC-Pine automatically adjust for Daylight Savings Time periods (April to October) or does the TZ Variable need to be reset manually during that time? Thanks. Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 11:28:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14038; Tue, 3 Jan 95 11:28:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14899; Tue, 3 Jan 95 11:12:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from micronet.wcu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14890; Tue, 3 Jan 95 11:12:52 -0800 Received: by micronet.wcu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01865; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:12:15 +0500 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 14:12:14 -0500 (EST) From: Patti Johnson X-Sender: johnson@micronet To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: trouble with the return address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 654 Hello all! I've got both pine and mailx in use on my Solaris 2.3 system - with one major problem: While mailx correctly addresses the "From" field, pine omits the machine name. That is, here's the From from the two mailers: mailx: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu pine: johnson@wcu.edu I NEED pine to return address my outgoing mail by the full method: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu and have piddled with sendmail.cf - only to screw up the working mailx. Any ideas? I've looked into the custom headers but find little help on doing a system-wide customize-able header for the return address. Thanks for ANY help! patti johnson johnson@micronet.wcu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 13:34:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20509; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:34:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15744; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:27:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15738; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:27:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPGYX-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:23:07 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: P.S. If you do this, please make sure to make the behavior very clear to your users. If you don't, we get flooded with bug reports ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:21:18 -0800 > From: David L Miller > To: Wet-Sprocket > Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs > > > Set the read-msg-folder variable and the auto-move-read-msgs feature. > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 31 Dec 1994, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > > > Date: 31 DEC 1994 16:33:22 GMT > > From: Wet-Sprocket > > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > > Subject: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs > > > > Pi(o)ne(e)rs, > > > > Is there a way to rig pine.conf.fixed so that when a user leaves read mail in > > the INBOX to the tune of 1.5+ Mgs all the excessive mail be moved to a folder > > within the users' home dir. in order to conserve diskspace on /usr/spool disk? > > > > -- > > .---. , , > > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Talk about me doing the talking for others...esp. My Employers! > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 13:58:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21617; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:58:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16520; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:52:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16514; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:52:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPGyw-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: aggregate select in Newsgroups Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 13:04:32 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: An option to set the margins is on the (endless?) requested enhancements list, but I have no idea how soon it might get to the top... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, Charles W. Cooper II wrote: > Date: Fri, 30 DEC 1994 16:48:58 -0800 > From: Charles W. Cooper II > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: aggregate select in Newsgroups > > > Hi there, > > I'm not sure if this has been covered but I would like to see the ability > to select multiple newsgroups to subscribe in an aggregate fashion rather > than having to search, select and subscribe one by one... > > Any possibilities here? > > Thanks! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 14:15:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22445; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:15:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16891; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:06:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16885; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:06:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPHF6-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 13:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hollis@nadn.navy.mil (David T Hollis) Subject: IMAP Daemon on Solaris 2.3 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:04:04 GMT Anyone have some info on setting up an IMAP daemon on a Solaris 2.3 workstation? I checked the documentation (albeit somewhat quickly) and found no mention of IMAP, nor POP. If there is a FAQ with this info, please point me to it. The purpose is to allow PC-Pine (Winsock) to access email of the workstation. -- ------------------------------ David Hollis U.S. Naval Academy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 14:32:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23358; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:32:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20211; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:28:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20205; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:28:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPHbN-00038KC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 14:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine on SCO 3.2v4.2 w mmdf Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:57:46 GMT Message-Id: References: <3e9trq$fkd@fullfeed.fullfeed.com> Scott Chapman (scottc@online.dct.com) wrote: : I would prefer to clean up some of the warning messages, : and short of telling the compiler to shut up, maybe there are a few : other #defines, etc that I could set to clean up some of them before I : start to track them down and fix them. I ignored them. I have never had any troubles with the resulting binaries. The int conversions it complains about are fine, since as it complains, it fixes them. It's the difference in the way SCO handles signals, which is really only a semantic problem with which sort of error it returns. Anyway, I wouldn't bang my head against it. : Once that is done, I would then : like to start doing some MINIMAL site specific changes also, in the easiest : to update method I can find. : If there is a SCO/Pine place to look, please point me in the right direction. Not sure what you're looking for here - there aren't any site-specific compile-time options you can tweak - it's all done through the .pinerc, pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed. I found everything I needed in the source tree. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 16:04:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27715; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:04:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19533; Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:57:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19527; Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:57:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPIuY-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 12:21:18 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3e414i$o00@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3e414i$o00@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Set the read-msg-folder variable and the auto-move-read-msgs feature. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Dec 1994, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 31 DEC 1994 16:33:22 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs > > Pi(o)ne(e)rs, > > Is there a way to rig pine.conf.fixed so that when a user leaves read mail in > the INBOX to the tune of 1.5+ Mgs all the excessive mail be moved to a folder > within the users' home dir. in order to conserve diskspace on /usr/spool disk? > > -- > .---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ > Talk about me doing the talking for others...esp. My Employers! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 16:24:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28767; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:24:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20393; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:21:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20357; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:20:57 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:19:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:19:14 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Peter Wastholm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Inverse Video - change it In-Reply-To: <3ebpoi$f6d@erinews.ericsson.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jan 1995, Peter Wastholm wrote: > In article , karenoel@iglou.iglou.com wrote: > > > >I used to have a -> to show which letter was chosen. Now it is highlighted > >with what I think is called Inverse Video. > > > >How do I get the -> back? > > > > I read somewhere in the docs that Pine tries to detect if you're sitting on > a slow modem line. If it thinks that you are, selection is marked with a -> > instead of the usual reverse video. Have you changed modems recently or > something? Anyway, maybe you can force Pine to display selected letters the > way you want, but I can't help you there. > If you are running pine 3.9x then go to the setup/config menu and set: [ ] assume-slow-link That will help.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 16:41:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29423; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:41:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20773; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:38:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20753; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:37:55 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:36:14 -0800 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 08:36:13 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: David T Hollis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP Daemon on Solaris 2.3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, David T Hollis wrote: > Anyone have some info on setting up an IMAP daemon on a Solaris 2.3 > workstation? I checked the documentation (albeit somewhat quickly) and > found no mention of IMAP, nor POP. If there is a FAQ with this info, > please point me to it. The purpose is to allow PC-Pine (Winsock) to > access email of the workstation. In your /etc/services file add a line like: imap 143/tcp # IMAP In your /etc/inetd.conf file add a line like: imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/bin/imapd imapd (the whitespace between fields in the inetd.conf file should be tabs) Then find the PID of the inetd process and give it a kill -1...or simply bounce the system. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 16:47:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29723; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:47:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20956; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:43:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20950; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:43:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPJf9-00038JC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Turning off news Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:06:15 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It sounds like what you want is to set nntp-server, to allow posting, and clear news-collections by setting it to "". |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 2 Jan 1995, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Date: Mon, 2 JAN 1995 18:47:39 GMT > From: Robert A. Hayden > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Turning off news > > Is there a way to COMPLETELY shut off the reading of news in 3.91? We > have to read news via NNTP from another machine and if there is some lag > or something on that machine, it can take several minutes to start. > Rather annoying. > > What I'd like is for it NOT to build the folders, but still allow me to > post to a newsgroup. > > Can this be done? > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> All I want is a cure... > \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> And all my friends back! > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 16:47:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29744; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:47:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23762; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:43:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23756; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:43:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPJez-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: News reading problem Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:01:24 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Neither option is currently available, but the latter is on our list for consideration. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 28 Dec 1994, Thomas D. Eklund HFB T d93 wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 DEC 1994 17:31:59 GMT > From: Thomas D. Eklund HFB T d93 > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: News reading problem > > > > Hi. > > Can someone tell me how to read more than one newsgroup from one place? > > Something like: > > news-collections = Solace *{news.solace.se/nntp}[comp.mail.pine && alt.binaries.supermodels > Sunet *{news.sunet.se/nntp}[comp.lang.visualbasic && rec.autos > > or can i have "Solace" news-collection read a specific .newsrc file > and "Sunet" another like in emacs gnus? > > > > Thanks in advance. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ___ _ ____ _ ___ ,---------------------------------, > / \__/ \__/ \__/ \__/ \ | Thomas '3kk3' Eklund-Dahlborg | > | _|@ @ __ | | tel: +46 - 243 83238 | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 17:01:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00378; Tue, 3 Jan 95 17:01:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21323; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:58:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21317; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:58:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPJu0-00038JC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: several messages Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:12:48 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Check the termcap/terminfo database on your system to make sure that the "vp" terminal type is included. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, Bill Murray wrote: > Date: Fri, 30 DEC 1994 16:56:16 GMT > From: Bill Murray > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Terminal Emulations > > How do you set up other terminal emulations for PINE besides vt100. > SPECIFICALLY, vp or ADDS VIEWPOINT. Pine says that it does not support > pine. Isn't there something I can change in the configuration file of > pine without changing my terminal emulation to something other than vt100 > or vt220 or whatever. I want to use vp. Any ideas? > > Bill Murray > arwhead@tyrell.net > > On Fri, 30 Dec 1994, Bill Murray wrote: > Date: Fri, 30 DEC 1994 18:47:55 GMT > From: Bill Murray > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Somthng other than vt100 > > I can't get my compiled version of PINE3.91 to work with a terminal emulation > other than vt100. When I run pine-bin.solaris for solaris2.x it comes up > with an error message and never runs pine. The error is: > > Your terminal, of type "vp", is lacking functions needed to run pine. And > it's not just vp but many other emulations. I've tried pine on another > solaris machine and it works with the emulations I'm trying but my > compiled version does not. > > WHAT's WRONG? > > Bill Murray > arwhead@tyrell.net > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 17:02:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00399; Tue, 3 Jan 95 17:02:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24099; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:58:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24093; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:58:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPJtq-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 16:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pop3d for Solaris2.3? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 15:08:33 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3e9kui$2as0@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3e9kui$2as0@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Pine is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the pine directory. The ipop3d server is included in the source distribution, pine.tar.Z. For Solaris 2.3, add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS line in pine/makefile.sol before building. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Jan 1995 emartin@ibm.net wrote: > Date: 2 JAN 1995 19:42:10 GMT > From: emartin@ibm.net > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: pop3d for Solaris2.3? > > Can anyone tell me where I can get pine for Solaris2.3. > I understand It comes with a pop3 server, which is what Im really looking > for. > > Thanks > Ernie > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:10:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03229; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:10:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25555; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:07:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25549; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:07:24 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rPL8k-0002DmC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:07 EST Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 21:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Roland Zuk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: SMTP Lost connections X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having some trouble with PC-Pine Windows and would welcome any suggestions. When I attempt to send a message, the system often hangs and comes back with a "Waiting for response from server" message, then eventually times out, giving the "Break connection?" prompt. The Pinedebug log shows "Transfer protocol error: 421 SMTP connection went away." I can usually recover and send mail by exiting and restarting Pine, then immediately sending the postponed message. I'm running PC-Pine Win with the Trumpet Winsock via a dialup PPP connection. Any suggestions? Is the SMTP timeout a local problem or something on my service provider's end? Thanks Roland P.S. Kudos to the CAC Pine Team on continuing excellent work with Pine! I'm a long time Unix Pine user and have installed the Windows port version for personal use at home for compatibility and because it beats the H^&#! out of any commercial package available. Nice work! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:32:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03939; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:32:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22927; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:28:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22921; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:28:17 -0800 Received: (from michael@localhost) by linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA01008; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:26:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:26:10 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Schuyler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Refusing Export In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any wayto set up pine to refuse exports to the hme directory? I run a system where we offer e-mail, but not disk space-related services such as ftp, etc. I was able to prevent a suspen (ctrl-Z) with an option, but haven't found anything for export. :::::; . , Michael Schuyler .., `:::::: :::;' /) - * - michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us - + - (\ `::::: ::' / ) ':` Kitsap Regional Library, 1301 Sylvan Way ':` ( \_ ` : :' _( (_ _ Bremerton, WA 98310 (360) 405-9139 _ ) )\ />: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:36:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04065; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:36:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25953; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:32:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25947; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:32:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPLKJ-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:48:50 GMT Message-Id: <3ecr9i$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Regarding: + Set the read-msg-folder variable and the auto-move-read-msgs feature. + P.S. If you do this, please make sure to make the behavior very clear to + your users. If you don't, we get flooded with bug reports ;) Right, but that will affect each and every user. Perhaps I should have better phrased my question which is: I want to penalise only *such* users who tend to keep more than 1.5 Mgs worth of *read* mail in INBOX(system's mailspool) Any user who is following proper diskspace-ettiquette by moving read mail from INBOX to folders in his personal account space should not have that read-msg-folder/auto-move-read-msgs p.i.b option by default IMHO. Something like "if INBOX>1.5 Mgs move INBOX to $HOME/mail/movedmailfolder"... Right now I have a csh script running to check that...but anyway.... Your headers indicate: Message-ID: 3.92? Any possibility of a scoop as to what's in 3.92? :)) -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:51:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04546; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:51:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23217; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:48:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23211; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:47:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPLdc-00038KC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab03 (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Pico Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:55:52 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jan4.005552.10610@math.utah.edu> References: Michael Schuyler (michael@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us) wrote: : Is there an OVERTYPE mode in Pico? Nope, control-d is forward delete though. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:52:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04575; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:52:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23209; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:47:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23203; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:47:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPLZz-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 4 Jan 1995 00:58:44 GMT Message-Id: <3ecrs4$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mz. Patti Johnson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:12:14 GMT: + While mailx correctly addresses the "From" field, pine omits the machine + name. That is, here's the From from the two mailers: + mailx: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu + pine: johnson@wcu.edu We had the same problem, which got fixed by setting this option in Setup/Config: user-domain = -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 18:56:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04672; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:56:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26157; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:47:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26151; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:47:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPLdb-00038JC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 18:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab03 (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 00:52:56 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jan4.005256.10505@math.utah.edu> References: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> Carl Jolley (cjolley@iac.net) wrote: : I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The : pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When : I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... : But I can't get it to connect up to my terminal emulation program's : zmodem requestor. Piping from Elm and from Tin work just fine. The sysadmin : gave me some non-understanable explaination about why the Pine pipe command : doesn't work with 'sz'. Is the pipe command in Pine _that_ different from : that of Elm (and Tin)? I've never tried piping into sz but you might try this: | (cat > tmpfile;sz tmpfile;rm -f tmpfile) -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 19:25:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05147; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:25:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26539; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:19:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26533; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:19:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPM95-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Mac*CHAT List Moderator Subject: Re: Problem posting UUencoded files with PINE? Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 20:32:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3eaeus$g4q@crl4.crl.com> Comes here Mr. Brian Goss with this opinion in the"comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Jan 1995 19:06:04 -0800: + I am having problems using the Read File option in pine to read in a + uuencoded file. When I read in the file, pine says LINE TOO LONG and + automatically wraps all the text. This, in turn, basically corruptes the + uuencoded data. Can anyone help me with this problem? Hmm....looks like the problem is with the way your uuencoder works. I uuencoded your post and copied here, check and see if your uudecoder can decode it and the uuencoder encodes the same way. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ begin 600 yourpost.uu M1G)O;3H@9W5R=7!U8FQ`8W)L+F-O;2`H0G)I86X@1V]SF%T:6]N.B!#4DP@1&EA;'5P($EN=&5R;F5T M($%C8V5S2!C;W)R M=7!T97,@=&AE(`IU=65N8V]D960@9&%T82X@($-A;B!A;GEO;F4@:&5L<"!M 992!W:71H('1H:7,@<')O8FQE;3\*"D)'"BX@ ` end From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 20:00:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05839; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:00:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24203; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:56:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24197; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:56:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPMex-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: View Message screen constantly redraws? Date: 4 Jan 1995 01:54:26 GMT Message-Id: <3ecv4i$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Ed Greshko with this opinion in the"comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Wed, 4 Jan 1995 07:40:51 GMT: + > P.S. In 3.91, is there a way to specify how often you want it to check + > for new mail? + Yes, but I for got what .h file it is... :-( ;-( Hmm...that could be pine/osdep/os-machine.h (os-hpp.h in your case?), change 150(=60*2.5) to whatever you feel is appropriate for your situation. Here's the relevant portion of the os-sun.h (for Sun systems)..... /*---------------------------------------------------------------------- $Id: os-sun.h,v 5.19 1994/10/10 22:29:35 mikes Exp $ ----------------------------------------------------------------------*/ #define NEW_MAIL_TIME (150) /* How often to check for new mail. There's some expense in doing this so it shouldn't be done too frequently. */ -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 20:22:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06249; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:22:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27499; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:19:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27493; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:19:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPN4U-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Refusing Export Date: 3 Jan 1995 20:46:13 -0700 Message-Id: <3ed5m5$iig@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Michael Schuyler wrote: :Is there any wayto set up pine to refuse exports to the hme directory? According to the man page, running pine with the '-r' flag will prevent exports (among other things). If that won't suffice then you'll probably have to hack the source. The quickest thing I could spot would be to modify the first if-statement in the cmd_export function in mailcmd.c in the obvious way. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 22:16:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08291; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:16:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26050; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:11:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26044; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:11:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPOlL-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 21:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Neil Steffen Subject: How Can I POST Pretyped Documents in NEWS?? Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:00:12 GMT Message-Id: <3eddhc$5mc@cpmt.cyberport.net> I have MOZILLA 1.0N and Chameleon. I have typed many documents that I cannot export into NEWS via "newspost:comp.mail.pine" with my Mail Document Button. What is the command or do I need to use a GATEWAY to transfer Documents? Thanks for your support. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 22:17:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08326; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:17:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28961; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28955; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:13:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPOsW-00038JC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marty Brenneis Subject: Re: Still can't open INBOX Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 05:58:59 GMT egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) wrote: > > On Sat, 31 Dec 1994, Marty Brenneis wrote: > > > So I still can't get pine to find my host. > > I set the inbox to match that shown in the manual (yes, I did > > insert my host's name). No matter how I format the name of the host > > I get an error #11004 that states it can't find the host. I can > > ping the host with no problem. I can access my mail with the Netmanage > > mail program (bleah). I am using Netmanage Chamelon Sampler for the > > TCP/IP winsock stuff. Other clues, I can read news from the news site > > here. > > > > Anyone got more hints? > What do you get when you do: > > telnet hostname 143 > I get the login for the IMAP server. When I load pine it still complains about how it can't find the host. I dinked around with it more this evening and find that I can go to 'L' list folders menu and ask it to open the INBOX. It then connects to the server and asks for my password. Then is complains that the SELECT command can't find /usr/spool/mail/droid. This is what I was told was the name of my inbox on that system. Any more hints? Marty Brenneis Industrial Magician droid@nbn.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 22:36:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08740; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:36:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26297; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:32:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26291; Tue, 3 Jan 95 22:32:13 -0800 Received: from ip-pdx3-29.teleport.com (ip-pdx3-29.teleport.com [204.119.60.157]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id WAA03024 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:32:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 22:32:10 -0800 Message-Id: <199501040632.WAA03024@desiree.teleport.com> X-Sender: knute@mail.teleport.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knute@teleport.com (Knute Snortum) Subject: Pine binaries I work for a VAR and we are looking at Pine to be the mail reader we distribute with our systems, as well as use in house. We have clients with several versions of Unix, including a "tweeked" version of System VII by Altos. I just discovered (and can someone comfirm?) that Pine cannot be compiled without a developer's version of TCP/IP. No problem for us internally; it works fine. But what about our other clients? Specifically, this weirdo Altos Unix refuses to execute the standard Unix binary. Do you have to tell our client to buy the developer's version of TCP/IP? What I'd really like is a wayy to get Pine binaries for different flavors of Unix. Any hints? ---Knute (knute@msi.masi.com, knute@teleport.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 3 23:16:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09861; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:16:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26875; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:12:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26863; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:12:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPPjY-00038CC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 23:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlk68@imap1.asu.edu Subject: Where are my TIN saved files? Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:54:24 GMT Message-Id: <3edgn0$f42@news.asu.edu> I am working with a TIN newsreader and can not locate my saved article files. I go through the process of saving files that I find in the Internet newsgroups and giving them a name. When I go to the FTP saved files directory, they aren't there. Please, please help. -- Michael Leshowitz mlk68@imap1.asu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 05:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18881; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:28:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04666; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:19:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04660; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:18:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPVVr-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kkeyte%esoc.BITNET@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Karl Keyte) Message-Id: <19950104.113544.069884.NETNEWS@ESOC> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:35:43 +0100 Subject: Adding mail header lines I'm running pine 3.91 on a Linux system. I want to be able to add mail header lines as I compose a message. Typically I send mail from one system but want replies to go elsewhere, so I want to insert a 'Reply-To:' entry in the header. Does anyone know how I can do this? I must be just missing something. Karl ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vitrociset S.p.A. Tel : +(49) 6151 902041 European Space Agency Fax : +(49) 6151 904041 64293 Darmstadt, Germany e-Mail: KKEYTE@ESOC.BITNET From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 06:03:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19816; Wed, 4 Jan 95 06:03:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02217; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02211; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPWAf-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 05:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul_haring@jhuapl.edu (Paul S. Haring) Subject: Re: Where are my TIN saved files? Message-Id: References: <3edgn0$f42@news.asu.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:53:09 GMT In article <3edgn0$f42@news.asu.edu> mlk68@imap1.asu.edu writes: >From: mlk68@imap1.asu.edu >Subject: Where are my TIN saved files? >Date: 4 Jan 1995 06:54:24 GMT > I am working with a TIN newsreader and can not locate my saved >article files. I go through the process of saving files that I find in >the Internet newsgroups and giving them a name. When I go to the FTP >saved files directory, they aren't there. Please, please help. >-- >Michael Leshowitz >mlk68@imap1.asu.edu Read your .tinrc file, in it is a line specifing the "save" directory. It's usually ~/News. There's lots of good stuff in .tinrc, look it over carefully. -- Paul -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 08:09:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23936; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:09:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07420; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:04:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07414; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:04:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPY4p-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 07:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine binaries Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 15:46:55 GMT Message-Id: References: <199501040632.WAA03024@desiree.teleport.com> Knute Snortum (knute@teleport.com) wrote: : I just discovered (and can someone comfirm?) that Pine cannot be compiled : without a developer's version of TCP/IP. No problem for us internally; it : works fine. But what about our other clients? Specifically, this weirdo : Altos Unix refuses to execute the standard Unix binary. Do you have to tell : our client to buy the developer's version of TCP/IP? The Developer's Version of TCP/IP applies only to SCO Unix. You're likely to have to port Pine yourself to any platforms it doesn't already support. But it supports so many so well, that you should be able to find a good place to start. It sounds like you're expecting binary compatibility between youre various flavors of Unix - you won't get it. You'll pretty much need to recompile Pine for each separate OS, unless you know for sure beforehand it will work. : What I'd really like is a wayy to get Pine binaries for different flavors of : Unix. Any hints? Several can be found at ftp.cac.washington.edu. For the others, try crossposting here and in the system-specific newsgroup for anyone who might have already solved your difficulties. But cross-platform development is a hard problem, and it sounds like you're going to get in thick. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 08:17:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24250; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:17:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04463; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:12:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04457; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:12:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPYHI-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hcn@sysdeco.no (Hans Chr. Nielsen) Subject: HP/UX NFS locking problem Date: 4 Jan 1995 15:29:19 GMT Message-Id: <3eeesf$ce2@lion> Our system supervisor has added some patches to our HP/UX workstations. We use HP/UX 9.01; I have not been able to find any description of the patches. Everything except pine works OK. After these patches pine keeps locking up. It happens when it tries to open a folder in my folder directory. It creates a .lock file and nothing happens after this. It may also lock up when opening the sent-mail folder to save a copy of outgoing mail. The same lock file is created. The hanging process may not be killed. This only happens on a workstation where my home-directory (and folder directory) is nfs-mounted. The server is the patched hp. The problem occurs on hps running pine 3.07 but not on suns running 3.07. I compiled 3.91 for hp,rs6000 and sun. The problem occurs on hps and rs6000s. Sun is still OK. Running pine on the nfs server is also OK. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I don't think I will get any help from HP as pine is the only program that has problems. -- hans chr n Hans Chr Nielsen, Sysdeco Innovation A/S Chr. Michelsens gt 65, N-0474 OSLO Tel +47 22383090 Fax +47 22382555 Email: hcn@sysdeco.no From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 08:58:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26124; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:58:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08493; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:53:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08487; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:53:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPYrK-00038LC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edward Vielmetti Subject: Address book tools Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 11:38:47 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm adding a ton of new entries to my address book these days, and can think of a few tools that would make the process easier. (The objective is to minimize wrong or stale entries). A few come to mind right away: - a way to exercise the SMTP "VRFY" command from the address book, so that you can tell whether an address is deliverable - an interface to finger, whois, or some other directory service so that you can look people up - a more visible "comments" screen - and of course some support for shared or remote address books. thanks Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com Msen Inc., 320 Miller, Ann Arbor MI 48103 +1 313 998 4562 (fax: 998 4563) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 08:58:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26161; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:58:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08369; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:48:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08363; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:48:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPYcx-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 4 Jan 1995 10:29:41 -0600 Message-Id: <9601041638.AA18276@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <3ecrs4$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> In article <3ecrs4$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) write: |> Comes here Mz. Patti Johnson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:12:14 GMT: |> |> + While mailx correctly addresses the "From" field, pine omits the machine |> + name. That is, here's the From from the two mailers: |> + mailx: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu |> + pine: johnson@wcu.edu |> |> We had the same problem, which got fixed by setting this option in Setup/Config: |> user-domain = In fact pine is trying to enforce (but escapes are possible as shown above) a very reasonable thing, that is, mail is sent to somebody at some domain. Nobody cares about which machine is used for receiving the mail, and this information should not go out. The mail exchanger for the receiving domain should take care of forwarding the mail to the user machine in a way transparent and invisible to the sender of the mail. Here as in most places we receive all mails as user@ifctr.mi.cnr.it and the mail exchanger knows that my mail goes to poseidon, another guy's goes to helios and so on. If tomorrow I would move to another machine, or even on leave to another place, I'd just have to change the local alias and the rest of the world wouldn't even note. Having the machine name in the address is more or less as sending somebody a letter not as Mr. Pinco Pallino Broad Street 24 but Mr. Pinco Pallino Broad Street 24 the second mailbox in the third row on the shelf in staircase E Don't you agree that this information should be known only to the porter of Broad Street 24, or the postman ? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 09:01:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26331; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:01:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05271; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:53:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05265; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:53:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPYjk-00038KC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 08:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kira@fohnix.metronet.com (Jacqueline Hamilton) Subject: can I post news from pine? Date: 4 Jan 1995 10:37:36 -0600 Message-Id: <3eeisg$3vb@fohnix.metronet.com> I've got a mail message that I'd like to redirect as a post to a newsgroup. Is this doable from pine? I'm digging through the builtin help but haven't found much about news features. (I dont want to reply to the message either - just basically bounce it to news) Any info appreciated! -j. -- -Jackie Hamilton kira@metronet.com http://fohnix.metronet.com/HomePages/kira/newhome.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 09:29:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28026; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:29:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06161; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:25:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06155; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:25:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPZNL-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 09:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab01 (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Adding mail header lines Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 16:57:02 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jan4.165702.25666@math.utah.edu> References: <19950104.113544.069884.NETNEWS@ESOC> Karl Keyte (kkeyte@esoc.bitnet) wrote: : I'm running pine 3.91 on a Linux system. I want to be able to add mail header : lines as I compose a message. Typically I send mail from one system but want : replies to go elsewhere, so I want to insert a 'Reply-To:' entry in the header. : Does anyone know how I can do this? I must be just missing something. Go to Setup/Config from the menu menu. Go down to custom-headers and add any headers you want. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 10:33:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00790; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:33:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10866; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:23:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10860; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:23:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPaGH-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) Subject: Re: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Date: 4 Jan 1995 12:57:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3eeni5$t36@wabash.iac.net> References: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> <1995Jan4.005256.10505@math.utah.edu> Chris Alfeld (calfeld@ceslab03) wrote: : Carl Jolley (cjolley@iac.net) wrote: : : I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The : : pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When : : I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... : : But I can't get it to connect up to my terminal emulation program's : : zmodem requestor. Piping from Elm and from Tin work just fine. The sysadmin : : gave me some non-understanable explaination about why the Pine pipe command : : doesn't work with 'sz'. Is the pipe command in Pine _that_ different from : : that of Elm (and Tin)? : I've never tried piping into sz but you might try this: : | (cat > tmpfile;sz tmpfile;rm -f tmpfile) I tried this and it works identically to just doing : sz - i.e. it doesn't work. In both cases it does fire up the host system zmodem and it displays the init string , i.e. **B0000000000000 but then on the next line it displays ten or so question marks. Oh, also when I do get back to Pine it it presents me with a screen as though I had Replied to the message and then entered ^X, i.e. the screen has quoted the message I was trying to d/l, and at the top there is a skeleton reply message, complete with my signature and Pine is asking if I want to send the reply. Oh, one small detail I forgot, when the host system's zmodem fires up, prior to display of the init sting it sends a response that the zmodem has been initiated in batch mode. No big deal but it does appear that everything up until that point and enen through the sending of the init string is exactly what one would expect. Invariably if I then manually initiate the zmodem recieve from my end, it times out. The host system's zmodem is not talking to my end. It appears possibly that the stuff that zmodem would normally be sending to me is somehow being sent back to Pine. -- **** cjolley@iac.net **** All opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 10:50:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01486; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:50:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08101; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:45:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08095; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:45:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPaeC-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:03:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3ecr9i$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ecr9i$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> On 4 Jan 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 4 JAN 1995 00:48:50 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: [Q] Move to Read-Msg Folder/pine.conf.fixed/INBOX > 1.5 Mgs > > Regarding: > > + Set the read-msg-folder variable and the auto-move-read-msgs feature. > > + P.S. If you do this, please make sure to make the behavior very clear to > + your users. If you don't, we get flooded with bug reports ;) > > Right, but that will affect each and every user. Perhaps I should have better > phrased my question which is: I want to penalise only *such* users who tend > to keep more than 1.5 Mgs worth of *read* mail in INBOX(system's mailspool) > > Any user who is following proper diskspace-ettiquette by moving read mail from > INBOX to folders in his personal account space should not have that > read-msg-folder/auto-move-read-msgs p.i.b option by default IMHO. > > Something like "if INBOX>1.5 Mgs move INBOX to $HOME/mail/movedmailfolder"... > Right now I have a csh script running to check that...but anyway.... > Ahhh, Pine doesn't have any capability like that. Offhand, I would probably put a csh/perl wrapper around Pine that made the check and did the dirty work before invoking the real Pine. Some small utilities that may be useful for copying remote folders or converting formats are: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imapcopy.tar.Z ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/mbxcopy.tar.Z ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/mbxcvt.tar.Z > Your headers indicate: > > Message-ID: > > 3.92? Any possibility of a scoop as to what's in 3.92? :)) > Pine 3.92 will be mostly bug fixes and optimization, though a few new features have been added, like ESMTP 8BITMIME support, mime.types support, a default-saved-msg-folder variable, etc. Over the holiday we have been experimenting with primitive xterm mouse support... To answer the next question, no, we do not have an expected release date for Pine 3.92 yet... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 11:05:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02052; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:05:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11621; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:00:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11615; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:00:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPapN-00038KC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 10:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frank Gallant Subject: Pine bug address problem. HELP! Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 13:22:58 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have just set up pine for an OSF1 system. Most of it is working fine EXCEPT: I want the users on the system to report bugs directly to me instead of the standard bug address. I've changed the bug-fullname and the bug-address in pine.conf file, but it never sees it. The pine-degug file still shows the original address being read. Where should i change this information? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Happy Computing Frank From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 11:33:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03234; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:33:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12335; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:28:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12329; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:28:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPbFR-00038JC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine binaries Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:45:25 -0800 Message-Id: References: <199501040632.WAA03024@desiree.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199501040632.WAA03024@desiree.teleport.com> On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Knute Snortum wrote: > I just discovered (and can someone comfirm?) that Pine cannot be compiled > without a developer's version of TCP/IP. No problem for us internally; it > works fine. But what about our other clients? Specifically, this weirdo > Altos Unix refuses to execute the standard Unix binary. Do you have to tell > our client to buy the developer's version of TCP/IP? > You could compile the distribution on your in-house systems and distribute those binaries. That is assuming you have a system in-house that is compatible with your client's system... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 11:34:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03272; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:34:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09052; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:28:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09046; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:28:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPbFl-00038KC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Address book tools Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:50:14 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Edward Vielmetti wrote: > Date: Wed, 4 JAN 1995 11:38:47 -0500 > From: Edward Vielmetti > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Address book tools > > I'm adding a ton of new entries to my address book these days, and can > think of a few tools that would make the process easier. (The objective > is to minimize wrong or stale entries). A few come to mind right away: > > - a way to exercise the SMTP "VRFY" command from the address book, so > that you can tell whether an address is deliverable Interesting suggestion... > - an interface to finger, whois, or some other directory service > so that you can look people up This is planned.... > - a more visible "comments" screen We have not yet figured out how best to do this, but we are looking into it... > - and of course some support for shared or remote address books. Shared addressbooks are available now, remote will come later... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 12:03:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04565; Wed, 4 Jan 95 12:03:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09865; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:58:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09859; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:58:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPbk5-00038KC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 11:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) Subject: Re: Time zone mvar PC-Pine Date: 4 Jan 1995 10:58:41 -0800 Message-Id: <3eer51$mro@tattoo.twinsun.com> References: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) writes: > The instructions in the tech notes for Pine are not really clear about the > proper use and format of the TZ environment variable ... In my case > (Illinois, USA) this should be CST-6CDT (since we are 6hrs behind or later > than GMT) However when I do this, PC-Pine sets the msg time to GMT+6 ... The instructions in the Pine tech-notes are incorrect with respect to sign. TZ offsets are west of GMT, not east; thus your TZ should be "CST6CDT". > What is the correct setting for Newfoundland (Canada) which is -3.5 hrs GMT? "NST3:30NDT". The tech notes don't explain this, unfortunately. > what is the correct setting for number greater than 1 digit (e.g. 11 hrs)? The offset can be more than one digit, e.g. "NZST-12" for Fiji. >Also, will PC-Pine automatically adjust for Daylight Savings Time periods >(April to October) or does the TZ Variable need to be reset manually during >that time? It should figure it out automatically. One tricky thing is what to do when the daylight savings time switchover rules are different from the default US rules. For New Zealand, for example, you'll need a TZ value that is something like "NZST-12NZDT,M10.1.0/2,M3.3.0/3", since NZ switches to summer time the first Sunday in October at 02:00 and switch back the third Sunday in March at 03:00. This is all explained in the Posix 1003.1 standard, section 8.1.1, ``Extensions to the Time Functions''. This should probably be covered in the Pine tech notes too. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 13:28:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08242; Wed, 4 Jan 95 13:28:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15095; Wed, 4 Jan 95 13:13:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15089; Wed, 4 Jan 95 13:13:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPcs3-00038JC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 13:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: derda@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Greg Derda) Subject: Insert Mode in Pico? Date: 4 Jan 1995 20:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <3ef0u0$ppb@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Does anyone know if there is a way to put 'pico' in the insert (typeover) mode? Thank you, Greg ---- ########################################################################### # GREG DERDA Network Administrator # # 2502 Plant Sciences derda@dogwood.botany.uga.edu # # Department of Botany (706) 542-1804 # # University of Georgia (706)-542-1805 FAX # # Athens, GA, USA 30602 dogWWWood --> http://dogwood.botany.uga.edu/ # ########################################################################### From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 16:14:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14346; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:14:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18739; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:05:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurore.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18733; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:05:21 -0800 Received: from localhost.umd.edu (localhost.umd.edu [127.0.0.1]) by aurore.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.6) with SMTP id TAA21444 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 1995 19:01:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199501050001.TAA21444@aurore.umd.edu> X-Authentication-Warning: aurore.umd.edu: Host localhost.umd.edu didn't use HELO protocol To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with PCPINE 3.91 and SunOS Date: Wed, 04 Jan 1995 19:01:35 -0500 From: Larry Lentner I have the packet driver version of PCPINE 3.91 that I'm using to communicate with a Sun Sparcstation 5 running the imapd included in the pine 3.91 distribution and sendmail 8.6.9. It's also functioning as a nameserver, running BIND 4.9.2. When I finish composing a message and go to send the message, there's a 30-second delay between the time I hit send and the time pcpine drops me back to a prompt. I had a DECstation 5000/25 running Ultrix 4.3 and BIND 4.9.2 before I replaced it with the Sun and I didn't have this problem with the DEC. This is causing my impatient users some major headaches. Has anyone else experienced this as well or have any suggestions on how I might go about fixing it? Thanks, Larry Lentner UMCEES/CBL Computer Center From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 16:27:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14813; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:27:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15955; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15949; Wed, 4 Jan 95 16:22:31 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:20:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 08:20:54 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Address book tools In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > - a way to exercise the SMTP "VRFY" command from the address book, so > > that you can tell whether an address is deliverable > > Interesting suggestion... Interesting....yes. Useful? Maybe. Many SMTP servers do not allow "VRFY". Many addresses are on the other side of Gateways and the Gateway itself doesn't give an indication that the address is deliverable. This goes for many addresses that are being taken care of by an MX record. I believe that there would be too many cases of addresses being declaired as "deliverable" when in fact they may not be deliverable. Ed P.S. I like the rest of the suggestions.... Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 17:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17409; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17446; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:16:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17440; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:16:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPgho-00038JC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Where are my TIN saved files? Date: 5 Jan 1995 00:33:38 GMT Message-Id: <3efep2$dl0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. mlk68@imap1.asu.edu with this opinion in "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 4 Jan 1995 06:54:24 GMT: + I am working with a TIN newsreader and can not locate my saved + article files. I go through the process of saving files that I find in + the Internet newsgroups and giving them a name. When I go to the FTP + saved files directory, they aren't there. Please, please help. You can view/change the options set by hitting M at the Group Index Screen. You can also manually change those by editing the .tin/tinrc file. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 17:33:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17770; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:33:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20796; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:29:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20790; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:29:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPgrH-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 17:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 5 Jan 1995 00:49:01 GMT Message-Id: <3efflt$dl0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Lucio Chiappetti with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 4 Jan 1995 10:29:41 -0600: + In fact pine is trying to enforce (but escapes are possible as shown + above) a very reasonable thing, that is, mail is sent to somebody + at some domain. Nobody cares about which machine is used for receiving + the mail, and this information should not go out. + The mail exchanger for the receiving domain should take care of + forwarding the mail to the user machine in a way transparent and + invisible to the sender of the mail. Good point, but then you do require a robust mail-server which keeps routing off all the incoming mail to respective sub-domain hosts. Not all do have access to this yet, some notable univ. here who support this idea are umich.edu, uiuc.edu. It would be nice if this gets standardized. Comments, anyone ? -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 21:07:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23464; Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:07:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20909; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20903; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:59:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPk9g-00038LC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 20:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeff Morris Subject: Re: View Message screen constantly redraws? Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 23:30:56 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > when pine 3.91 checks for new mail it will put an * in the upper > left corner. This is maybe what you are seeing. Nope, I disabled that as soon as I got it. A nice thing to be able to disable, because with 3.89 that was happening to me every 30 seconds no matter where I was, and it was driving me crazy because it kept telling me something had changed in pine, when really nothing had. Someone else suggested maybe it was a bad modem connection - no, I am using ethernet, and it doesn't only do it on my computer, but any I've tried. I don't know what it does, but it only happens if I'm in the view message screen, not the index. - Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 21:36:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24441; Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:36:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24446; Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:29:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24440; Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:29:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPkd5-00038LC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 21:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lyna@netcom.com (L. Faucett) Subject: Re: Adding mail header lines Message-Id: References: <19950104.113544.069884.NETNEWS@ESOC> <1995Jan4.165702.25666@math.utah.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 05:07:29 GMT Chris Alfeld (calfeld@ceslab01) wrote: : Karl Keyte (kkeyte@esoc.bitnet) wrote: : : I'm running pine 3.91 on a Linux system. I want to be able to add mail header : : lines as I compose a message. Typically I send mail from one system but want : : replies to go elsewhere, so I want to insert a 'Reply-To:' entry in the header. : : Does anyone know how I can do this? I must be just missing something. : Go to Setup/Config from the menu menu. Go down to custom-headers : and add any headers you want. I'm using Pine 3.89 provided by my service -- When I select Option [uunder Setup] I get a message that says "no option screen." How else can i compose a new header? TIA -- -- --lyna@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 22:31:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25509; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:31:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22142; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:23:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22136; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:23:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPlSk-00038CC; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oconnort@acf2.nyu.edu (Tim O'Connor) Subject: Re: Address book tools Date: 5 Jan 1995 05:40:02 GMT Message-Id: <3eg0ni$frq@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> References: Edward Vielmetti (emv@recepsen.aa.msen.com) wrote: > - an interface to finger, whois, or some other directory service > so that you can look people up Yes, today we were talking about the possibility of doing ph lookups from within Pine 3.91, since we're running a ph server in production now. I said I'd browse through the archives at the uwashington ftp site to see if the topic had been raised, but (as often happens) I didn't need to look any further than this newsgroup. Many thanks for the timely discussion! --tim o'connor +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tim O'Connor tim.oconnor@nyu.edu NYU Academic Computing Facility Phone: (212) 998-3024 251 Mercer St., New York, NY 10012 Fax: (212) 995-4120 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 4 22:36:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25619; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:36:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25266; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:29:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25254; Wed, 4 Jan 95 22:29:00 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 5 Jan 95 14:27:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 14:27:31 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: "L. Faucett" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Adding mail header lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, L. Faucett wrote: > I'm using Pine 3.89 provided by my service -- When I select > Option [uunder Setup] I get a message that says "no option screen." How > else can i compose a new header? TIA Oooopsss...there is your problem...that feature is not available in 3.89. Request that your service upgrade to 3.91 Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 01:19:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29054; Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:19:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27608; Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:12:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27602; Thu, 5 Jan 95 01:12:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPo2C-00038JC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 00:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nntp-server Subject: test Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3dt0gr$8b2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 08:36:32 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <3dt0gr$8b2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 This is just a test. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 04:44:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03976; Thu, 5 Jan 95 04:44:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26822; Thu, 5 Jan 95 04:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26816; Thu, 5 Jan 95 04:36:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPrFZ-00038JC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 04:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Henrik Rasmussen Subject: prYnt from pine Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:11:22 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I normally use one printer from pine but for some mails I want to use=20 another printer. When I press "Y" for prYnt I am asked if I want to use the= =20 command Print message 1 using command "lp -dmuslas1"?=20 and have the opportunity to enter "Y" for "Yes", "N" for "No" or "^C" for= =20 "Cancel". It is obvious that "Y" and "^C" means but answering "N" have=20 the same effect as "^C". Why can't i change printer by answering "N",=20 backspace or just enter another command as elsewhere in pine? Venlig hilsen / Regards Henrik Rasmussen University of Copenhagen ADB-kontoret ------------------------------------------------------------------------- N=F8rregade 10 Tel: +45 35 32 26 26 Direct: +45 35 32 27 0= 4 P.O.B. 2177 Fax: +45 35 32 27 80 DK 1017 K=F8benhavn K Email: Henrik.Rasmussen@adm.ku.dk ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 05:59:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05571; Thu, 5 Jan 95 05:59:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01269; Thu, 5 Jan 95 05:49:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01263; Thu, 5 Jan 95 05:49:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPsN8-00038JC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 05:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 5 Jan 1995 07:36:09 -0600 Message-Id: <9601051344.AA26314@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <3efflt$dl0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> In article <3efflt$dl0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) write: |> Comes here Mr. Lucio Chiappetti with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 4 Jan 1995 10:29:41 -0600: |> |> + In fact pine is trying to enforce (but escapes are possible as shown |> + above) a very reasonable thing, that is, mail is sent to somebody |> + at some domain. Nobody cares about which machine is used for receiving |> + the mail, and this information should not go out. |> |> + The mail exchanger for the receiving domain should take care of |> + forwarding the mail to the user machine in a way transparent and |> + invisible to the sender of the mail. |> |> Good point, but then you do require a robust mail-server which keeps routing |> off all the incoming mail to respective sub-domain hosts. |> |> Not all do have access to this yet, some notable univ. here who support this |> idea are umich.edu, uiuc.edu. It would be nice if this gets standardized. |> It is not clear to me from the above if the "notable universities" (which are presumably very large organizations with several depart- ments possibly each one with its own subdomain) "support" means "implementation". I suppose somebody at washington.edu, the home of Pine, can comment MUCH better than I do. However I was NOT saying that *subdomains* shall not appear in the address, but that *machine names* shall not appear in the address. For instance I am lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it, and the address is a subdomain : ifctr is the Istituto di Fisica Cosmica e Tecnologie Relative mi in the Milan Area of cnr the National Research Council of it Italy I do not want to appear as "lucio@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it" (the machine where I receive mail), nor as "lucio@anything.ifctr.mi.cnr.it" (if I'm sending the mail from another machine). I do not either want to appear as "lucio@mi.cnr.it" or as "lucio@cnr.it" !!! In this case the effort will be quite big, since CNR is a large AND uncoordinated organization. Having things dealt with at the lower level domain is instead very SIMPLE. One does not need any terribly robust mail server. Even we (a 30-people institute) can deal with that, just using Digital stock sendmail. All what we need is to enter in /etc/aliases on our NIS server an alias " user: user@machine" for each new user. This is a bearable load even for a surrogate volunteer part-time sysadm, and the turnaround to implement it is 2 minutes. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 06:27:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06070; Thu, 5 Jan 95 06:27:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28091; Thu, 5 Jan 95 06:19:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28085; Thu, 5 Jan 95 06:19:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPspN-00038KC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 06:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nntp-server Subject: Test Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:36:33 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Test From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 07:31:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07518; Thu, 5 Jan 95 07:31:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02504; Thu, 5 Jan 95 07:21:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02498; Thu, 5 Jan 95 07:21:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPtp2-00038JC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 07:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Unable to view attachment - HELP Date: 5 Jan 95 15:10:01 GMT Message-Id: I have received a message on a list I subscribe to that allegedly has an attachment. When I view the attachment I get: PINE 3.90 ATTACHED TEXT Folder: INBOX Message 12 of 7,957 TOP This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1982785689-789276093:#6308 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You are all in my address list thanks to the first CONCOM News release which listed EVERYBODY. As a result, I can share with you the search [...] qualify and be interested, share the job description with that person. UNM is taking applications until January 20. So, please, let us hear from you. --0-1982785689-789276093:#6308 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="plnrjobd.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: DQpUSEUgVU5JVkVSU0lUWSBPRiBORVcgTUVYSUNPDQpWQUNBTkNZIEFOTk9V TkNFTUVOVA0KDQoNCg0KUE9TSVRJT046CU5FVFdPUksgU0VSVklDRVMgT0ZG SUNFUg0KUkVRVUlTSVRJT04gTlVNQkVSOgk5NDI1OTcqQQ0KREVQQVJUTUVO [...] I know almost nothing about MIME, and I don't know of anyone else locally who knows as much as I do. What is wrong with the attachment that it is not being decoded? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 09:18:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12298; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:18:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01347; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:06:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01341; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:06:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPvWJ-00038CC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 08:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Date: 5 Jan 95 16:57:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> <1995Jan4.005256.10505@math.utah.edu> <3eeni5$t36@wabash.iac.net> cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) writes: >Chris Alfeld (calfeld@ceslab03) wrote: >: Carl Jolley (cjolley@iac.net) wrote: >: : I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The >: : pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When >: : I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... >: : But I can't get it to connect up to my terminal emulation program's >: : zmodem requestor. Piping from Elm and from Tin work just fine. The sysadmin >: : gave me some non-understanable explaination about why the Pine pipe command >: : doesn't work with 'sz'. Is the pipe command in Pine _that_ different from >: : that of Elm (and Tin)? >: I've never tried piping into sz but you might try this: >: | (cat > tmpfile;sz tmpfile;rm -f tmpfile) >I tried this and it works identically to just doing : sz - >i.e. it doesn't work. In both cases it does fire up the host system zmodem >and it displays the init string , i.e. **B0000000000000 but then on the >next line it displays ten or so question marks. Oh, also when I do get >back to Pine it it presents me with a screen as though I had Replied to >the message and then entered ^X, i.e. the screen has quoted the message I >was trying to d/l, and at the top there is a skeleton reply message, complete >with my signature and Pine is asking if I want to send the reply. Oh, one >small detail I forgot, when the host system's zmodem fires up, prior to >display of the init sting it sends a response that the zmodem has been >initiated in batch mode. No big deal but it does appear that everything up >until that point and enen through the sending of the init string is exactly >what one would expect. Invariably if I then manually initiate the zmodem >recieve from my end, it times out. The host system's zmodem is not talking >to my end. It appears possibly that the stuff that zmodem would normally >be sending to me is somehow being sent back to Pine. Just a thought: about 1988-89 Chuck Forsberg (the developer of zmodem) changed the licensing of the UNIX versions of sz/rz, etc., to say they could only be used with licensed versions of the zmodem protocol. Sometime after that he recoded rz/sz to explicitly open /dev/tty rather than using stdin and stdout the way it had in the past. This could interfere with attempts to pipe rz/sz. It is better to have the older free versions that use stdio. >-- >**** cjolley@iac.net >**** All opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer **** -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 09:42:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13274; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:42:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05430; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:31:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05424; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:31:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rPvr8-00038JC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@pooh (Tim Bloomfield) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Message-Id: References: <3ecrs4$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:01:45 GMT Wet-Sprocket (shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu) wrote: : Comes here Mz. Patti Johnson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:12:14 GMT: : + While mailx correctly addresses the "From" field, pine omits the machine : + name. That is, here's the From from the two mailers: : + mailx: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu : + pine: johnson@wcu.edu : We had the same problem, which got fixed by setting this option in Setup/Config: : user-domain = This fix does not work for me. When I leave the user domain unset my email to outside sites does not include a domain name which is not very useful. I am using Solaris 2.3 and Pine 3.91. The sendmail.cf is the standard one with the bug fix to stop it truncating domain names in the From field. This works well with elm. -Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 10:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14721; Thu, 5 Jan 95 10:17:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02499; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:58:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from micronet.wcu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02493; Thu, 5 Jan 95 09:58:57 -0800 Received: by micronet (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07791; Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:58:30 +0500 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:58:29 -0500 (EST) From: Patti Johnson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: (To: Tim) Re: trouble with the return address Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 874 (sorry folks - I couldn't reply to Tim, due to his return address - so I'm posting to the group) Tim, from your message below - I'm not sure if you were asking further how to fix the problem or stating how you fixed it. I'm sorry. At any rate, I did find a fix - very like what "wet sprocket" wrote - but not exactly. If you'd like it, let me know. If you've got a fix, I'd like to compare notes. BTW - I'm using Solaris 2.3 + Pine 3.91 too - so our fixes should be the same??? pj On Thu, 5 Jan 1995, Tim Bloomfield wrote: > This fix does not work for me. When I leave the user domain unset my > email to outside sites does not include a domain name which is not very > useful. I am using Solaris 2.3 and Pine 3.91. > > The sendmail.cf is the standard one with the bug fix to stop it truncating > domain names in the From field. This works well with elm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 12:19:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20577; Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:19:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09260; Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:01:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09254; Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:01:45 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24414; Thu, 5 Jan 95 12:01:33 -0800 Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 12:01:31 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Lucio Chiappetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: trouble with the return address In-Reply-To: <9601051344.AA26314@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII FYI, Pine does not try to enforce anything in this area; rather it provides config options to accommodate whatever model is supported at your site. There have been some subtle bugs/changes in this part of Pine's logic over the past year or two, but the intent hasn't changed. In current code here's what I understand should be happening: If user-domain is set, then outgoing addresses will have that value on the right side of the @ sign in From: addresses (and when Pine completes a To: or Cc: address for you.) Pine doesn't care whether the user-domain value includes a machine name or not. Your choice, but it must match whatever your local MTAs will accept. If user-domain is *not* set (in either the personal or global pine config file), Pine uses a system call to get the host name, and will use whatever it gets as the right-hand-side unless "use-only-domain-name" is set, in which case it attempts to strip off the machine name. By the way, a common source of address config problems occurs when people have entries in their /etc/hosts file backwards: the fully qualified name should be first, and the short hostname second. If these are reversed (and user-domain is not set) then people will end up with return addresses of the form "joe@frodo" which will cause no end of grief. -teg On 5 Jan 1995, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In article <3efflt$dl0@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, (Wet-Sprocket) writes: > |> Comes here Mr. Lucio Chiappetti with this opinion in "comp.mail.pine": > |> > |> + In fact pine is trying to enforce (but escapes are possible as shown > |> + above) a very reasonable thing, that is, mail is sent to somebody > |> + at some domain. Nobody cares about which machine is used for receiving > |> + the mail, and this information should not go out. > |> > |> + The mail exchanger for the receiving domain should take care of > |> + forwarding the mail to the user machine in a way transparent and > |> + invisible to the sender of the mail. > |> > |> Good point, but then you do require a robust mail-server which keeps > |> routing off all the incoming mail to respective sub-domain hosts. > |> > |> Not all do have access to this yet, some notable univ. here who support > |> this idea are umich.edu, uiuc.edu. It would be nice if this gets > |> standardized. > > It is not clear to me from the above if the "notable universities" > (which are presumably very large organizations with several depart- > ments possibly each one with its own subdomain) "support" means > "implementation". > I suppose somebody at washington.edu, the home of Pine, can comment > MUCH better than I do. > > However I was NOT saying that *subdomains* shall not appear in the > address, but that *machine names* shall not appear in the address. > > For instance I am lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it, and the address is > a subdomain : > ifctr is the Istituto di Fisica Cosmica e Tecnologie Relative > mi in the Milan Area of > cnr the National Research Council of > it Italy > > I do not want to appear as "lucio@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it" > (the machine where I receive mail), nor as "lucio@anything.ifctr.mi.cnr.it" > (if I'm sending the mail from another machine). > > I do not either want to appear as "lucio@mi.cnr.it" or as > "lucio@cnr.it" !!! In this case the effort will be quite big, > since CNR is a large AND uncoordinated organization. > > Having things dealt with at the lower level domain is instead > very SIMPLE. > One does not need any terribly robust mail server. > > Even we (a 30-people institute) can deal with that, just using > Digital stock sendmail. All what we need is to enter in /etc/aliases > on our NIS server an alias " user: user@machine" for each new > user. > This is a bearable load even for a surrogate volunteer part-time > sysadm, and the turnaround to implement it is 2 minutes. > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign > via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign > Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | > Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 15:45:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29168; Thu, 5 Jan 95 15:45:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10671; Thu, 5 Jan 95 15:33:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from egate.citicorp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10665; Thu, 5 Jan 95 15:33:33 -0800 Received: by egate.citicorp.com id AA11933 (InterLock SMTP Gateway 1.1 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:33:31 GMT Received: by egate.citicorp.com (Internal Mail Agent-1); Thu, 5 Jan 1995 23:33:31 GMT Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:33:30 -0500 Message-Id: <199501052333.SAA22988@maple.cgin.us-md.citicorp.com> X-Sender: vgupta@cginnet X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vic.Gupta@citicorp.com (Global LAN Design, CGIN, (703) 708-1256) Subject: Does PINE supports Internet firewalls. Hi: I wanted to know if PINE supports Internet Firewalls. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 17:26:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03773; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:26:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13092; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:15:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13086; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:15:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ367-00038TC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 5 Jan 1995 23:51:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ei0m3$h98@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Lucio Chiappetti with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 5 Jan 1995 07:36:09 -0600: + I do not either want to appear as "lucio@mi.cnr.it" or as + "lucio@cnr.it" !!! In this case the effort will be quite big, + since CNR is a large AND uncoordinated organization. + Even we (a 30-people institute) can deal with that, just using + Digital stock sendmail. All what we need is to enter in /etc/aliases + on our NIS server an alias " user: user@machine" for each new + user. Entries in /etc/aliases ???? You gotta be kidding.... 6000+ entries on the system only for this???? and I'am not even talking about the mainframe systems yet.... Nah! that would be a primitive approach....i would prefer shrim@temple.edu anyday! Just set up a mail-server, and then each user send an e-mail to this server telling to which address mail sent to user@temple.edu should be redirected to. Suppose the user wants to switch to another host to send/recieve mail then he should be able to change it *himself* by sending another e-mail to the server with the new address (a la Listserv) without requiring the intervention of a full-time Mail-Admin to make the necessary changes manually, in matter of secs. The keyword here is flexibility. You would hate to be pulled over for speeding on the Information SuperHighway, wouldn't you ? :) comments ? -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 17:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04851; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:53:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17685; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:48:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17679; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:48:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ3dg-00038CC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 17:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 6 Jan 1995 00:31:52 GMT Message-Id: <3ei31o$h98@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Tim Bloomfield with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 5 Jan 1995 17:01:45 GMT: + This fix does not work for me. When I leave the user domain unset my + email to outside sites does not include a domain name which is not very + useful. I am using Solaris 2.3 and Pine 3.91. Hmmm...your case seems to be inverted....how about this... user-domain = your.hosts.complete.address (for ex: foo.bar.com) and checking this option... use-only-domain-name = Yes -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 18:38:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05965; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:38:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14511; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:33:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14505; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:33:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ4MZ-00038UC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: prYnt from pine Date: 6 Jan 1995 01:16:44 GMT Message-Id: <3ei5ls$h98@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Henrik Rasmussen with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 5 Jan 1995 13:11:22 +0100: + I normally use one printer from pine but for some mails I want to use + another printer. When I press "Y" for prYnt I am asked if I want to + Print message 1 using command "lp -dmuslas1"?=20 + and have the opportunity to enter "Y" for "Yes", "N" for "No" or "^C" for + "Cancel". It is obvious that "Y" and "^C" means but answering "N" have + the same effect as "^C". Why can't i change printer by answering "N", + backspace or just enter another command as elsewhere in pine? Good point!! I use the Network LaserPrinter while at work, and the StyleWriter at home to print and would love an option C instead of ^C to switch printers without having to go and change the printers in the Setup. Right now what I do is take advantage of the -p config-file flag of Pine. pine -f .workpinerc - while at work pine -f .homepinerc - while at home In ".workpinerc" I have printer setup to print to 'lpr -P printername' and in ".homepinerc" I have set it to 'attached-to-ansi' printer setup. Also in my .tcshrc I have setup aliases like alias wp 'pine -f .workpinerc' alias hp 'pine -f .homepinerc' Hope this helps. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 19:07:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06524; Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:07:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18718; Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:00:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18712; Thu, 5 Jan 95 19:00:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ4hB-00038UC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 18:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phil Safier Subject: Need help in creating mailing list Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 18:35:02 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3e414i$o00@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Can someone point me to help files on working with mailing lists in the addressbook. I have about 19K worth of names and addresses but can't figure out how to put them into my addressbook at one shot. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 20:34:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08444; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:34:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16136; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:28:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16130; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:28:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ64d-00038OC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idjfc@imap1.asu.edu Subject: printing problems Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:48:17 GMT Message-Id: <3eib1h$cd3@news.asu.edu> I am using Pine 3.91 (a newby to the net) and am having problems getting my printer to work with it. The printer worked fine with the previous version of Pine. I am using an IBM Compatable, 486DX, 8 meg of ram, TCP/IP, trumpet telnet. The modem is a Practical Peripheral 28.8. I use a PPP connection to a SPARCSERVER 1000 running Solaris 2.3. While in Pine, when I type "y" for print, a message "Caption Onsing" appears in the lower right hand corner of the screen, and everything is dumped to my hard disk. I have read through all the Pine FAQs and can't come up with anything that closely matches my problem. The printer is a Panasonic KX-P2123 which emulates an IBM Proprinter X24E. It is a 24-pin. Of course after things are dumped into the hard disk, I can then print it out fine, but it is an inconvenience, and I'm not too pleased about something just dumping to the hard disk without my control. Under the Pine printer options, I have selected the "ansi" selection. Requesting help within the Pine program doesn't give me mush, just tells me to make a selection. I work within both MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 3.1 and the problem is the same under both platforms. The printer works fine on-line with everything else; i.e., netscape, HGopher, etc. I would greatly appreciate any information. Thank you. - JB From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 5 21:04:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09110; Thu, 5 Jan 95 21:04:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20298; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:58:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20292; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:58:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQ6Xu-00038OC; Thu, 5 Jan 95 20:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcphail@garnet.msen.com (Michael McPhail) Subject: Re: Where are my TIN saved files? Date: 6 Jan 1995 02:47:36 GMT Message-Id: <3eib08$qdm$2@heifetz.msen.com> References: <3edgn0$f42@news.asu.edu> mlk68@imap1.asu.edu wrote: : I am working with a TIN newsreader and can not locate my saved : article files. I go through the process of saving files that I find in : the Internet newsgroups and giving them a name. When I go to the FTP : saved files directory, they aren't there. Please, please help. : -- : Michael Leshowitz : mlk68@imap1.asu.edu You should have a directory in your home directory called Mail (or mail). Try that location. ======================================================================= [ | ] [ Mike McPhail | My other computer ] [ mcphail@mail.msen.com | is a Cray. ] [ aa351@detroit.freenet.org | ] [ | ] ======================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 03:47:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17292; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:47:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21683; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:39:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21677; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:39:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQCpm-00038PC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Using formail to solve private mail w/ Newsgroups header problem Date: Thu, 5 Jan 1995 21:38:25 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine is both a newsreader and a mailer and whenever a message sent by Pine contains a Newsgroups header, it means that the message was posted to a newsgroup. If a message is only mailed it will not contain a Newsgroups header. If you use Pine as your mailer and you receive a message that has a Newsgroups header, Pine will ask you if you want to reply by posting. Now, if everyone used Pine this would be fine. But, since many people use NN, Tin, and TRN, which all include a Newsgroups header in privately mailed messages, this is a problem. Often people answer yes to this question because they think that they are responding to a message that was posted, rather than just mailed. And then someone's private message gets posted to the world, causing all kinds of turmoil. A future release of Pine will make it more clear to the user about this danger, but until that happens you may want to put something like this into your .procmailrc file: # Useful if you use Pine as your mailer :0 fhw * ^Newsgroups: * !^Message-Id:.*Pine | formail -R Newsgroups: Originated-In-Newsgroups: What this does is if an incoming mail message contains a Newsgroups header and the Message-Id does not contain "Pine" (i.e., it did get mailed by Pine) then it replaces (R) the Newsgroups header with Originated-In-Newsgroups, followed by the newsgroups. Some questions: * Any suggestion for a better header than Originated-In-Newsgroups? * Any suggestions for improving this? * What other newsreaders (other than nn, tin, and trn) include a Newsgroups header in privately mailed messages? * Do you think this is a good example to put in the Procmail FAQ? If not, what's a better header munging example? Thanks much, Nancy -- /\_/\ Nancy McGough ( o.o ) Infinite Ink > ~ < http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ -OR- http://www.best.com/~ii/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 03:54:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17500; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:54:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25299; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:48:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25293; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:48:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQD1i-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 03:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hubbell@well.sf.ca.us (Charles H. Hubbell) Subject: Using Pine to post to newsgroups Date: 6 Jan 1995 05:36:28 GMT Message-Id: <3eikss$73k@nkosi.well.com> How does one perform that operation? Chuck Hubbell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 04:25:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18551; Fri, 6 Jan 95 04:25:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22349; Fri, 6 Jan 95 04:18:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22343; Fri, 6 Jan 95 04:18:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQDTa-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 04:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Anyway to tell the date/time mail came in???? Message-Id: References: <3dpvkm$n8a@news.cais.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:47:44 GMT Jeffrey Fitzgerald (jlfitz@cais2.cais.com) decia: : In Pine (or even TIN) is it possible to see when the message was : posted? I can't find anyway to see it... in pine: while reading your mail hit the "h" key... that will put you in full headers... read them... you'll see when it was received by your sistem.... in pine... well... there is really no way... as much as you didn't receive the message... it was received by the news-server your host is using... Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 06:07:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20885; Fri, 6 Jan 95 06:07:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23661; Fri, 6 Jan 95 05:58:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23655; Fri, 6 Jan 95 05:58:44 -0800 Received: by acs.ryerson.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02072; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:55:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 08:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro X-Sender: pribeiro@hopper To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Headers under Solaris In-Reply-To: <3ei5ls$h98@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 599 Hi, I'm having a strange problem, with user-domain=acs.ryerson.ca use-only-domain-name=yes under AIX I get: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:19:59 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro To: Paul Ribeiro Subject: test Message-ID: under Solaris I get: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 00:14:35 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro X-Sender: pribeiro@hopper <---- why "hopper"? To: Paul Ribeiro Subject: test Message-ID: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 08:02:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23324; Fri, 6 Jan 95 08:02:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28691; Fri, 6 Jan 95 07:54:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28685; Fri, 6 Jan 95 07:54:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQGpE-00038KC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 07:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 01:55:21 -0600 References: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> <1995Jan4.005256.10505@math.utah.edu> <3eeni5$t36@wabash.iac.net> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 5 Jan 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) writes: >Chris Alfeld (calfeld@ceslab03) wrote: >: Carl Jolley (cjolley@iac.net) wrote: >: : I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The >: : pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When >: : I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... [...] >: | (cat > tmpfile;sz tmpfile;rm -f tmpfile) This isn't really what you want, but how 'bout this? Run Pine from this: #!/bin/csh -f /path/to/pine3.91 -z -id0 if ( -e ~/articles.to.download ) then cd ~/articles.to.download if ( `ls | wc -l` ) d * # d is sz, kermit, whatever... endif cd ~ ; rm -r ~/articles.to.download # h: #! /bin/csh -f # # Save articles for download. # cat > ~/download.article.tmp if ( -e ~/articles.to.download == 0 ) then cd ~ ; mkdir articles.to.download endif set i = 1 while ( -e articles.to.download/download.article.$i ) @ i++ end mv ~/download.article.tmp ~/articles.to.download/download.article.$i echo Article stored for later download... # Pipe each article you want to download to h. When you quit Pine, the wrapper starts sending the articles. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLwyi8eBu0383Om6dAQEEDgQApRZOtRrhZyG1sfjiLPh+Vm6UGibspqBt ZEappxIbBuq7qcxOoNSNt8Rf/keIO7aINoDA5MkeEfGqv9aI43LKbuKi3X/ao/YL 8yixChV3jGq374eUa0YWLWuyiYzTgTBPr9riyz0DJggpBYXiLDzd06YIw6AkZ+sR WklPjIj7fgY= =sDj1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc prudence dictates a low profile -- Sandy Sandfort finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f | tee mkpgp.txt.uu | more From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 10:28:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29946; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:28:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29005; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:20:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28999; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:20:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQJ6T-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Setting up for news, upgrading pine systemwide. Date: 6 Jan 95 17:32:37 GMT Message-Id: First of all, although I generally think pine is a great MUA, I am distinctly uncomfortable with it as a newsreader, preferring nn. However I am the one who originally installed elm and nn on our site several years ago, followed shortly by tin, and about a year ago, pine. Currently the systemwide pine is 3.89, but I want to upgrade to 3.91. Part of what prevented me was an error message I keep getting when running 3.91 about unbalanced {. I posted on it in the past but got no real help. Today I finally figured it out. It had to do with the value of news-collections in the systemwide pine.conf file. It was set to: news-collections=News/[] *{$NNTPSERVER/nntp}[] which correctly pointed 3.89 at our nntpserver, set in a global cshrc file. However this was not being instantiated properly by 3.9{0|1}. I had to experiment with brackets and parens until I finally got a version that would work correctly with both 3.89 and 3.91: news-collections=News/[] *{${NNTPSERVER}/nntp}[] Now I am trying to make sense of the folders issue. Although I would expect the immediately preceding news-collection setting to look in ~/News then at the nntpserver, I do not seem to see any folders from my ~/News directory. I also experimented with setting the folder-collection to: folder-collections=Mail/[] News/[] This latter gave me a merged list of folders from ~/Mail and ~/News, but I could not append to the folders that I knew were in News. Part of this may have been because they were saved by nn, which does not by default setup a folder in completely proper UNIX mail format. I also could not just save to the folders by name, so I am quite confused about the relationship between news and folders. The model I want, because it is most compatible with our other newsreaders and MUAs, is to have news saved in folders in ~/News, mail saved in ~/Mail. Then I want users to be able to open the folders of saved news in a way distinct from their mail folders. I know this runs against the cognitive model that the pine team seem to be pushing, but it is the one I am most comfortable trying to support, as an unpaid volunteer, in addition to my 12 hrs/qtr teaching load, maintaining gopher and www, and serving on about a dozen committees. Does anyone have any advice? In addition to the news issues, which are what make me the most uncomfortable, should I anticipate any other major sources of confusion from my users if I just upgrade them from 3.89 to 3.91 without warning? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 10:59:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01180; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:59:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03128; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:50:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03122; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:50:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQJbV-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bsachett@alert.com (Bruce Sachetti) Subject: Using Wyse50 (or any non-VTxxx) terminals w/Pine Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 11:01:21 GMT If anyone has had any success making a Wyse 50 terminal work with Pine (especially arrow keys), please let me know. I originally thought this was a termcap vs. terminfo issue. I am using Pine on an RS/6000 (3.2.3 and 3.2.5) and have tried Pine 3.89 and Pine 3.91. Per David Miller's previous response, I did make sure that the pico and pine makefile.a32 had "-l curses" instead of "-l termcap". It seems that Pine isn't using terminfo. Any help would be appreciated... Bruce G. Sachetti Systems Administrator II Alert Centre Inc. Englewood, CO bsachett@alert.com (303)488-7719 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 11:03:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01375; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:03:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29892; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:54:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29886; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:54:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQJeZ-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Garbi Schmidt Subject: WANTED DESPERATELY: books on pine Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:33:04 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there! Does anybody out there have the ultimate solution to my quest for a good book on pine, or perhaps som FAQ or HELPsite for pine - especially setup and configuration questions?? Thanks a lot! Garbi -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Garbi Schmidt | 'Tomorrow is the most important thing in life.' (John Wayne) Copenhagen,DK | 'HALLELUJA -- there is still hope!' (G. Schmidt) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 11:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01469; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:05:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03369; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:59:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03363; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:59:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQJlY-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 10:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rrogers@minnie.imd.nrc.ca (Rick Rogers) Subject: FAQ?? or VMS PINE?? Date: 6 Jan 95 09:35:30 NDT Message-Id: <1995Jan6.093530.1@minnie.imd.nrc.ca> Hi all, Where is the FAQ for this group (assuming there is one), I can't find it as far back as my feed has. If there isn't a FAQ I'm specifically looking for info on PINE for VMS to work with SMTP. Thanks, Rick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 11:27:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02303; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:27:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03966; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:20:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03960; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:20:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQK44-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peter-wa@dsv.su.se (Peter Wastholm) Subject: Re-sort a folder *permanently*? Date: 6 Jan 1995 13:31:49 GMT Message-Id: <3ejgo5$jc9@erinews.ericsson.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 I recently restructured my folder-collection. When moving letters to their appropriate folders, the order got messed up, so now most of my folders are sorted pretty randomly. Therefore, every time I enter a folder, I have to press $ d to sort the letters by date the way I want them. Isn't there a way to make that order permanent? /Peter Wastholm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 11:29:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02342; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:29:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00781; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:20:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00775; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:20:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQK0z-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 11:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Using formail to solve private mail w/ Newsgroups header problem Date: 6 Jan 1995 13:29:11 GMT Message-Id: <3ejgj7$ahe@hustle.rahul.net> References: In Nancy McGough writes: >* ^Newsgroups: >* !^Message-Id:.*Pine >| formail -R Newsgroups: Originated-In-Newsgroups: >What this does is if an incoming mail message contains a >Newsgroups header and the Message-Id does not contain "Pine" >(i.e., it did get mailed by Pine) then it replaces (R) the >Newsgroups header with Originated-In-Newsgroups, followed by >the newsgroups. My first reaction was that this is an excellent idea. However, in the long run, treating messages differently based on the originating mail software will cause a lot of confusion. I think it would be better if pine users would unconditionally have procmail convert the Newsgroups header. I suggest that they transform it to X-Newsgroups -- short and simple. (It would be ideal if a patch for pine could be developed that would do this transformation automatically, without requiring a procmail filter.) By doing so we largely preserve the original semantics of the Newsgroups header in email, i.e., that the sender of the reply saw something on Usenet and sent email in response, and that the recipient of the email is not expected to post a reply to Usenet. The basic idea is: - if you get it in email, send any reply in email - if you see it on Usenet, either post a follow-up to Usenet or send a private email reply but don't do both except in unusual circumstances >* Do you think this is a good example to put in the Procmail FAQ? Actually this really belongs in the pine FAQ, if/when there is one. Procmail is baroque. Its .procmailrc file syntax is quite hard to understand. It's not a good match for most pine users, who want a simple menu-driven interface that they can use without reading a cryptic manual. That a pine user should need to add a .forward file entry to enable procmail, and add some cryptic lines to a .procmailrc file, just to use pine normally, is ironic. -- Rahul Dhesi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 13:08:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07140; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:08:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03178; Fri, 6 Jan 95 12:59:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03172; Fri, 6 Jan 95 12:59:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQLZL-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 12:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@pooh (Tim Bloomfield) Subject: Environment variable for pine.conf? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 19:03:18 GMT -- ------------------------------------------------- Tim Bloomfield (tim@srcl.sunnybrook.utoronto.ca) Sunnybrook Health Science Ctr. North York, Ontario. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 13:20:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07801; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:20:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06648; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:06:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06642; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:06:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQLeG-00038KC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 12:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anil@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu (Anil Dedhia) Subject: How to disable Alternate editor command system wide ? Date: 6 Jan 1995 18:20:11 GMT Message-Id: <3ek1kr$1nd4@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu> Hi, I would like to know about how to disable alternate editor command system wide. We want all the people accessing pine on a particular machine to use only pico for editing. For this purpose, I created pine.conf.fixed file in /usr/local/lib directory on the RS/6000 machine running AIX with the following options : editor=/usr/local/bin/pico feature-list=no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd This still does not work. The documentation says that feature-list is additive. So users can bypass the setting and use some other editor by creating appropriate .pinerc file. So how do I achieve the goal of disabling alternate editor command system wide ? Thanks for help, Anil -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Anil Dedhia | e-mail: anil@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu | | Information Technology Support | Phone: (504) 388-1928 | | Louisiana State University | http://bit.csc.lsu.edu/~dedhia | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 13:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08003; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:23:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03540; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:06:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03534; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:06:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQLgR-00038LC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@pooh (Tim Bloomfield) Subject: Re: Environment variable for pine.conf? Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 19:11:59 GMT Sorry about the previous message. Tin crashed When I resized a window while editing. Is there an environment variable that can be set to point to the location of pine.conf? The man page does not mention one. Thanks ------------------------------------------------- Tim Bloomfield (tim@srcl.sunnybrook.utoronto.ca) Sunnybrook Health Science Ctr. North York, Ontario. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 14:09:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10078; Fri, 6 Jan 95 14:09:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07985; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:59:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07979; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:59:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQMVH-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erin@skivs.ski.org (Erin O'Neill) Subject: Pine & Procomm/Prowin Date: 6 Jan 1995 13:38:04 -0800 Message-Id: <3ekd7s$oj3@skivs.ski.org> I have some users that are using both the shareware Procomm for DOS & using Prowin (Procomm for windows) and both are complaining about NOT being able to do the 2 following things: 1) print a mail message to their local printers 2) capture a mail message to a procomm capture file. Many of these users want to stop using mail & only use pine, but they find they can't live without these features. Any Suggestions? erin erin@skivs.ski.org -- erin erin@skivs.ski.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 14:19:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10591; Fri, 6 Jan 95 14:19:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05148; Fri, 6 Jan 95 14:09:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05142; Fri, 6 Jan 95 14:09:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQMf0-00038KC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Setting up for news, upgrading pine systemwide. Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 13:37:11 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Jan 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Date: 6 JAN 95 17:32:37 GMT > From: R. Stewart Ellis > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Setting up for news, upgrading pine systemwide. > > First of all, although I generally think pine is a great MUA, I am > distinctly uncomfortable with it as a newsreader, preferring nn. However I > am the one who originally installed elm and nn on our site several years > ago, followed shortly by tin, and about a year ago, pine. Currently the > systemwide pine is 3.89, but I want to upgrade to 3.91. > > Part of what prevented me was an error message I keep getting when running > 3.91 about unbalanced {. I posted on it in the past but got no real help. > Today I finally figured it out. It had to do with the value of > news-collections in the systemwide pine.conf file. It was set to: > > news-collections=News/[] *{$NNTPSERVER/nntp}[] > > which correctly pointed 3.89 at our nntpserver, set in a global cshrc file. > However this was not being instantiated properly by 3.9{0|1}. I had to > experiment with brackets and parens until I finally got a version that would > work correctly with both 3.89 and 3.91: > > news-collections=News/[] *{${NNTPSERVER}/nntp}[] > FWIW, if you set nntp-server=$NNTPSERVER and leave news-collections blank, Pine 3.91 will assume a default news-collection. Note that the "News/[]" in your example above is only the nickname for the collection and does not have any other significance. > > Now I am trying to make sense of the folders issue. Although I would expect > the immediately preceding news-collection setting to look in ~/News then at > the nntpserver, I do not seem to see any folders from my ~/News directory. > I also experimented with setting the folder-collection to: > > folder-collections=Mail/[] News/[] > > This latter gave me a merged list of folders from ~/Mail and ~/News, but I > could not append to the folders that I knew were in News. Part of this may > have been because they were saved by nn, which does not by default setup a > folder in completely proper UNIX mail format. I also could not just save to > the folders by name, so I am quite confused about the relationship between > news and folders. > "Mail/[]" in the above example is only specifying a nickname and does not have anything to do with the ~/Mail directory. You have specified a folder collection called "Mail/[]" that resides in the ~/News directory... > The model I want, because it is most compatible with our other newsreaders > and MUAs, is to have news saved in folders in ~/News, mail saved in ~/Mail. > Then I want users to be able to open the folders of saved news in a way > distinct from their mail folders. I know this runs against the cognitive > model that the pine team seem to be pushing, but it is the one I am most > comfortable trying to support, as an unpaid volunteer, in addition to my 12 > hrs/qtr teaching load, maintaining gopher and www, and serving on about a > dozen committees. > You can have as many folder collections as you want in Pine, but the first one listed is the default for saves from any collection. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 15:10:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12734; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:10:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06435; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:05:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06429; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:05:49 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rQNjq-0002HzC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:06 EST Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:01:37 -0800 (PST) From: Roland Zuk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Re-sort a folder *permanently*? X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net In-Reply-To: <3ejgo5$jc9@erinews.ericsson.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Jan 1995, Peter Wastholm wrote: > press $ d to sort the letters by date the way I want them. Isn't there a way > to make that order permanent? Sort the folder the way you want it, the Select All and Apply Save to a new folder to create a new folder in sorted order. From then on, you can save a lot of time by just reading the folder in Arrival order (the order they occur in the file). Regards Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 15:54:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14413; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:54:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07320; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:44:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu4.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07314; Fri, 6 Jan 95 15:44:23 -0800 Received: from msi.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA27249 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:27:03 -0500 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Pine Information Discussion Group Subject: Pine "build" problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-789431990=:20729" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-789431990=:20729 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to get Pine to compile on a "tweeked" System V Unix box (it's old.) Pine wants me to run the "build" script to make the files, but it's not finding some standard library stuff (I think.) It's hard to follow the logic of the build script because a) I'm a novice and b) it's written to compile on several platforms, but it seems like the actual compile statements start with $(CC). Here's the dumb question: where does C look for the standard libraries? In other words, when you have a statement like #include where does C look for that? I found a command line switch (-I) that allows me to specify additional paths to look in, but is there a global way to do this? Maybe it has nothing to do with libraries (the errors look kinda like C errors.) I have attatched two file for those who wish to take a look that I created thusly: ./build >build.out 2>build.err I would appreciate any help. --- Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS Inc. 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owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12966; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:30:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQPn6-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kf7qz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Scott) Subject: FTP for Pine Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 21:19:38 GMT I am sorry if I offend for asking for this on here. But where can I ftp pine and Pico from. I just opened this area and did not see a FAQ to read on access. I want to use it on Amateur Radio TCP/IP instead of the current elm and ed that I use. Thanks ahead of time -- | Ricky Scott | All Comments (unfortunately) | | kf7qz@bectec.ca.boeing.com | are purely my own and do not | | kf7qz@prostar.com | reflect the views nor are | | | supported by my employer | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 17:59:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19762; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:59:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13492; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:51:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13486; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:51:16 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (knute@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id RAA24452 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:51:14 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:51:48 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Bruce Sachetti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Wyse50 (or any non-VTxxx) terminals w/Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Bruce Sachetti wrote: > If anyone has had any success making a Wyse 50 terminal work with Pine > (especially arrow keys), please let me know. I originally thought this was a > termcap vs. terminfo issue. > > I am using Pine on an RS/6000 (3.2.3 and 3.2.5) and have tried Pine 3.89 and > Pine 3.91. Per David Miller's previous response, I did make sure that the > pico and pine makefile.a32 had "-l curses" instead of "-l termcap". > > It seems that Pine isn't using terminfo. > > Any help would be appreciated... > > Bruce G. Sachetti > Systems Administrator II > Alert Centre Inc. Englewood, CO > bsachett@alert.com (303)488-7719 > > For me it was discovering that we had non-ANSI keyboards. The people in my office are just learning to use the control-key equivilents. It's too much work to change ALL our applications now. knute@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with Teleport Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) or, e-mail me at work: knute@msi.masi.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 18:02:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19869; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:02:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10390; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:55:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10384; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:55:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQQBg-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martin@dorsai.dorsai.org (martin schildkret) Subject: Turning Off Insert Mode In Pine Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 00:47:03 GMT Is there any way of turning off the insert mode in PINE. I would much prfer to be in typeover. Thanks for any help that I may receive..... -- ----------------------------------------------------------- | <<< Martin@Dorsai.Org | < Martin Schildkret > >>> | ----------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 18:05:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20157; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:05:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13767; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:01:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13761; Fri, 6 Jan 95 18:01:31 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (knute@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA25452 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:01:30 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:02:01 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Rick Scott Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: FTP for Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Rick Scott wrote: > I am sorry if I offend for asking for this on here. But where can I ftp > pine and Pico from. I just opened this area and did not see a FAQ to > read on access. I want to use it on Amateur Radio TCP/IP instead of the > current elm and ed that I use. > > Thanks ahead of time > > -- > | Ricky Scott | All Comments (unfortunately) | > | kf7qz@bectec.ca.boeing.com | are purely my own and do not | > | kf7qz@prostar.com | reflect the views nor are | > | | supported by my employer | > Boy, people are really nervous about getting flamed these days. It's okay; we're all friendly here. I believe you can FPT right into cac.washington.edu and get the latest stuff. Nancy, if you're listening, could you give him all the lastest? I don't have it handy. knute@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with Teleport Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 19:34:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22378; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:34:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15161; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:30:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15155; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:30:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQRj0-00038MC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 19:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: UMABnet Help Account Subject: Limit on ratio of new to included text in news postings? Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 18:33:16 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings. I got this message from one of our users: > Whenever I reply to a message in Usenet, and save the message, I get an > error "441, more text than new" or something like that. Do you know what > that is and how to correct it? I would like to be able to reply to these > messages (by including parts of the original message for ease of reading). I assume the software is checking for some appropriate ratio of new text to included text in a follow-up to a newsgroup post. I tested this out on our system, incrementally adding to the new text and deleting from the included text. I was still getting this error 441 quite a bit after I, a seasoned reader of news, felt that the ratio of new to included text was appropriate. Can anyone tell me: 1. Is it Pine, or some other bit of software called by Pine, that is generating this message? 2. How does whatever-it-is calculate the appropriate ratio? 3. Is the some way to tweak the formula, or turn the checking off entirely? (The latter might be preferable, as it would disallow "Ditto." posts, which would be fine by me.) Thanks in advance. Miriam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Miriam Jaffe * Information Services * University of Maryland at Baltimore 100 North Greene Street, 2nd floor * Baltimore, MD * 21201 * U.S.A. +1 410 706 8166 * mjaffe@umabnet.ab.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 20:42:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23819; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:42:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12715; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:38:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12709; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:38:27 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:38:27 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@rain.psg.com Message-Id: <9501070438.AA12709@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQSmi-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:29 PST There is not currently a native OS/2 version of Pine, but PC-Pine for Windows is reported to work if you have winsock on your machine. The FAQ is in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Jan 1995 mfrisch@io.org wrote: > Date: 2 JAN 1995 00:45:19 GMT > From: mfrisch@io.org > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: OS/2 version of Pine? > > Is there an OS/2 version of Pine available that works with a POP mail > server? If this is a FAQ, please direct me to the source of the FAQ. > > Thank you very much in advance! > > Mike - Team OS/2 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 20:53:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24074; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:53:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16247; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:49:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16241; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:49:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:49:42 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@rain.psg.com Message-Id: <9501070449.AA16241@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQSzO-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:42 PST 6. January 1995 To Whoever can answer... I am looking for a GUI for Unix-based Pine, preferably something like Mosaic. If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would really appreciate it. Craig From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 21:07:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24377; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:07:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16507; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16501; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:55 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:55 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@rain.psg.com Message-Id: <9501070504.AA16501@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQTDS-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:57 PST You can set "sort-key=by-date" in the Setup/Config screen. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Jan 1995, Peter Wastholm wrote: > Date: 6 JAN 1995 13:31:49 GMT > From: Peter Wastholm > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re-sort a folder *permanently*? > > I recently restructured my folder-collection. When moving letters to their > appropriate folders, the order got messed up, so now most of my folders are > sorted pretty randomly. Therefore, every time I enter a folder, I have to > press $ d to sort the letters by date the way I want them. Isn't there a way > to make that order permanent? > > /Peter Wastholm > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 21:07:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24401; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:07:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13125; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13119; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:43 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:04:43 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@rain.psg.com Message-Id: <9501070504.AA13119@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQTDH-00038CC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 20:57 PST The Pine FAQ is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the pine/docs directory. It has not been posted recently, since we have been working on a new version that has taken longer than we expected... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Jan 1995, Rick Rogers wrote: > Date: 6 JAN 95 09:35:30 NDT > From: Rick Rogers > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: FAQ?? or VMS PINE?? > > Hi all, > > Where is the FAQ for this group (assuming there is one), I can't > find it as far back as my feed has. > > If there isn't a FAQ I'm specifically looking for info on PINE > for VMS to work with SMTP. > > Thanks, > > Rick > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 6 21:32:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24930; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:32:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13415; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13409; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:28:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:28:31 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@rain.psg.com Message-Id: <9501070528.AA13409@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQTYI-00038JC; Fri, 6 Jan 95 21:18 PST How does one perform that operation? Chuck Hubbell (P.S. I've already tried to post this message here, so if this turns out to be a re-posting, it illustrates the very problem that perplexes me.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 01:39:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29652; Sat, 7 Jan 95 01:39:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19905; Sat, 7 Jan 95 01:35:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19899; Sat, 7 Jan 95 01:35:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 01:35:13 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@psg.com Message-Id: <9501070935.AA19899@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQXNW-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 01:24 PST Hans Chr. Nielsen (hcn@sysdeco.no) wrote: : After these patches pine keeps locking up. It happens when it tries : to open a folder in my folder directory. It creates a .lock file : and nothing happens after this. It may also lock up when opening the : sent-mail folder to save a copy of outgoing mail. The same lock file : is created. The hanging process may not be killed. : Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I don't think I will get any : help from HP as pine is the only program that has problems. Try this: 1. Make sure you have ALL the patches for rpc.statd, rpc.lockd, and NFS 2. On both machines (server and client), do the following, in order: a. kill rpc.statd b. kill rpc.lockd DO a AND b ON BOTH MACHINES BEFORE GOING TO C c. rm -rf /etc/sm /etc/sm.bak d. start rpc.statd e. start rpc.lockd I am working with HP to try to find out why the sm directories are being corrupted-- no luck so far. Please post a followup and let us know if this helps. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 03:47:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02177; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:47:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17778; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:44:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17772; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:44:15 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:44:15 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@psg.com Message-Id: <9501071144.AA17772@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQZQy-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:35 PST I find no way to export a marked block of text from Pine message to a file. Is there a way? Will there come a time when Pine exhibits two windows on receiving the Reply command?: Inbox mail in the top window; reply-being-composed in bottom window; marked block can be transferred from one to another. -- Bill Smithers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 04:03:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02474; Sat, 7 Jan 95 04:03:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21486; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:59:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21480; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:59:19 -0800 Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:59:19 -0800 From: pine-list-owner@psg.com Message-Id: <9501071159.AA21480@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0rQZe9-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 03:49 PST I want to change the id in pine. For ex. 007@school.edu to Al@school.edu (I want to change or remove 007 ,is this possible?) So far I can do this only Al 007@school.edu ^^^ still here. (by configuring the option menu) Also, is there any way to change the IP (domain) address? That is ,from @school.edu to @home.edu for ex.? I have already tried the config . values , I can modify this part but once the mail is sent it cannot leave my mail system. I guess to send out mail , the return address must be identifiable before mail is to leave the local host? Thanks Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 08:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07516; Sat, 7 Jan 95 08:36:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21221; Sat, 7 Jan 95 08:32:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21215; Sat, 7 Jan 95 08:32:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQdtI-00038JC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) Subject: Re: Pine Pipe to Zmodem Date: 7 Jan 1995 11:19:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3emev0$o7a@wabash.iac.net> References: <3e7qmc$rod@little-miami.iac.net> <1995Jan4.005256.10505@math.utah.edu> <3eeni5$t36@wabash.iac.net> J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz) wrote: : -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : On 5 Jan 1995, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: : cjolley@iac.net (Carl Jolley) writes: : : >Chris Alfeld (calfeld@ceslab03) wrote: : >: Carl Jolley (cjolley@iac.net) wrote: : >: : I'm doing terminal emulation to my ISP. The default mailer is Pine. The : >: : pipe command IS configured but I can't get piping to: sz - to work. When : >: : I try it, the screen does display the zmodem init string, i.e *B00000.... : [...] : >: | (cat > tmpfile;sz tmpfile;rm -f tmpfile) : : This isn't really what you want, but how 'bout this? [rest deleted, but saved for later study] You are correct, I could always just export the message I am interested in and later download them after I quit Pine. I sounds like there is no way to interactively download a Pine message ala Elm's pipe. The behavior of Pine's pipe, i.e. pipe to a command and capture the output back into a viewer, does not seem to be documented in either the man pages or in Pine's help screens. I thought that something was broken, but now I understand that the operation of Pine's pipe is a "feature". It would be nice if in addition to the current operation of Pine's pipe there was an option to do a pipe without capturing the command's stdout. -- **** cjolley@iac.net **** All opinions are my own and not necessarily those of my employer **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 11:30:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11073; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:30:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26825; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:27:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26819; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:27:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQgg7-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thomas Guptill) Subject: repost: Pine/VMS FTP site in US Message-Id: <1995Jan7.184624.17081@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 95 18:46:24 GMT Since there has been a bit of traffic about it recently, I figured I'd let people know again that VMS-Pine v3.91 is available for anonymous ftp from lenin.cc.rochester.edu. Extracting it requires a recent version of UNZIP, and you MUST remember to transfer it as a binary. This version provides improved TCPIP support, but I've found that 3.89 seems to work better under my installation of VMS (5.4-2). (I'm not using TCPIP support, since I only use it for local mail and I need to talk to PMDF anyway.) BTW: Congratulations to the development team; it's a great program. Tom -- | Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | | tgpt_ltd@UORDBV | | Temporary LARVA-ED resident | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 11:55:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11641; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:55:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23792; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:53:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23786; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:53:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQh0O-00038QC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rross@lang1.langara.bc.ca (Ron Ross) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 6 Jan 1995 05:03:14 GMT Message-Id: <3eiiui$8rq@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> References: <3ecrs4$2v2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> There are a couple of things you could try. #1 is setting the user-domain variable to "micronet.wcu.edu". #2 would be to try setting the use-domain-name-only switch to "NO". Hope this helps. ___ Oo .:/ (___)o_o ,,///;, ,;/ //====--//(_) o:::::::;;/// Ron Ross \\ ^ >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ I'd rather be diving !!! Tim Bloomfield (tim@pooh) wrote: : Wet-Sprocket (shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu) wrote: : : Comes here Mz. Patti Johnson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:12:14 GMT: : : + While mailx correctly addresses the "From" field, pine omits the machine : : + name. That is, here's the From from the two mailers: : : + mailx: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu : : + pine: johnson@wcu.edu : : We had the same problem, which got fixed by setting this option in Setup/Config: : : user-domain = : This fix does not work for me. When I leave the user domain unset my : email to outside sites does not include a domain name which is not very : useful. I am using Solaris 2.3 and Pine 3.91. : The sendmail.cf is the standard one with the bug fix to stop it truncating : domain names in the From field. This works well with elm. : -Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 11:59:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11706; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:59:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27228; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:57:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27222; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:57:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQh7S-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 11:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@whacked.dorm.lsu.edu (Ben Curtis) Subject: POP Date: 7 Jan 1995 05:44:28 GMT Message-Id: <3el9ns$nn@deathstar.cris.com> I tried using the POP capability of 3.91 by specifying my INBOX as the POP mailbox, but something is screwy. Until today (one day of use) it worked fine, but when I read my mail today, one message had no text, and another message was mangled similarly. I have no clue as to the problem, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. -- __ __ _ _____ _ / / ______ ______/ /_(_)___ / ___ \________(_)___ _______ __ _ / _ \/ __/ // / __/ __/ /(_- Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17726; Sat, 7 Jan 95 16:41:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27391; Sat, 7 Jan 95 16:38:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27385; Sat, 7 Jan 95 16:38:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQlSA-00038KC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 16:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) Subject: JOE 2.4 - Now with SuperPico mode Message-Id: Date: Sat, 7 Jan 1995 22:46:48 GMT Version 2.4 of my editor is ready. You can get it by anonymous ftp from ftp.std.com, file: src/editors/joe2.4.tar.Z. It probably will not appear until the sysop comes in on monday, however. This upstart uEMACS hack of an editor has been stealing too many of my customers, so I've decided to fight back. This version of JOE includes 'JPICO'- a greatly enhanced version of Pico (perhaps I should have called it Nano or Micro?). It includes all of the missing functions from Pico (such as go to beginning of file and overtype mode), and generally extends the editor while keeping reasonably close to the simple model it provides. It should be especially useful for editing News and mail articles since the paragraph formatter can properly format quoted news articles. Also JOE normally can display the line and column number on the status line, allows you to set the right-margin and has many other user-friendly features. Here are the two help screens for JPICO to give you an idea of what you get: ^[ means you hit Ctrl-[ or the ESC key CURSOR GO TO BLOCK DELETE MISC EXIT ^B left ^F right ^[Y top of file ^@ mark ^D char ^J format ^X save ^P up ^N down ^[V end of file ^K cut ^K line ^T spell ^C abort ^Y prev. screen ^A beg. of line ^U paste ^[K >line ^[T file ^Z shell ^V next screen ^E end of line ^[U select ^[H word< ^L refresh FILE ^[B prev. word ^[L line No. ^O save ^[D >word ^[^[ options ^O save ^[F next word ^W find text ^[/ filter ^[- undo ^[= redo ^R insert MACROS WINDOW WINDOW SHELL MISC ^[( 0-9 Record ^[O Split ^[I Grow ^[! Command ^[X Execute command ^[) Stop ^[E Edit file ^[J Shrink ^[W Window ^[M Math ^[ 0-9 Play ^[P Goto prev. QUOTE I-SEARCH ^[C Center line ^[? Query ^[N Goto next ` Ctrl- ^[R Backwards ^[G to matching ( [ { ^[\ Repeat ^[Z Zoom in/out ^\ Meta- ^[S Forwards ^[< ^[> pan left/rght This version of JOE also includes a number of improvements and bug fixes: You can set the JOETERM environment variable to have JOE use a different terminal type then that specified in the normal TERM environment variable. You may want to do this since JOE can usually handle the terminal better than other programs- for example 'rn' messes up my Xenix console if I let it use inverse and underline, but joe doesn't. If JOE can't find the specified termcap or terminfo entry it uses a default extended ansi terminal type instead of giving up. This should be useful with the above option since many terminal emulators and PC UNIX consoles are ansi with insert and delete line, but many terminfo and termcap databases only provide primitive ansi or vt100. If you compile joe for terminfo, it includes the termcap routines anyway, and searches the termcap database (if it exists) if no terminfo entry can be found. JOE now starts out in read only mode if the specified file can not be written to. If JOE can't make a backup file, it now asks if it should save the file anyway. The IDLEOUT compile option is eliminated. Instead, if the user specified '-' on the command line, joe will use /dev/tty to open the terminal instead of stdin/stdout. More status line options are now available: The ASCII decimal and hex values of the character under the cursor The number of lines in the file What percent of the file the cursor is at The current byte offset into the file Whether rectangular block mode is enabled If the file is read only A number of glitches in the 'jstar' keymap are fixed. -- /* jhallen@world.std.com (192.74.137.5) */ /* Joseph H. Allen */ int a[1817];main(z,p,q,r){for(p=80;q+p-80;p-=2*a[p])for(z=9;z--;)q=3&(r=time(0) +r*57)/7,q=q?q-1?q-2?1-p%79?-1:0:p%79-77?1:0:p<1659?79:0:p>158?-79:0,q?!a[p+q*2 ]?a[p+=a[p+=q]=q]=q:0:0;for(;q++-1817;)printf(q%79?"%c":"%c\n"," #"[!a[q-1]]);} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 7 23:33:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24764; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:33:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05650; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:27:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05644; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:27:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQrqU-00038CC; Sat, 7 Jan 95 23:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric.Beaudoin@dmr.ca (Eric Beaudoin) Subject: Re: Limit on ratio of new to included text in news postings? Date: Sat, 07 Jan 1995 22:25:50 -0500 Message-Id: References: In article , UMABnet Help Account wrote: > Greetings. I got this message from one of our users: > > > Whenever I reply to a message in Usenet, and save the message, I get an > > error "441, more text than new" or something like that. Do you know what > > that is and how to correct it? I would like to be able to reply to these > > messages (by including parts of the original message for ease of reading). > > I assume the software is checking for some appropriate ratio of new text > to included text in a follow-up to a newsgroup post. I tested this out on > our system, incrementally adding to the new text and deleting from the > included text. I was still getting this error 441 quite a bit after > I, a seasoned reader of news, felt that the ratio of new to included text > was appropriate. > > Can anyone tell me: > > 1. Is it Pine, or some other bit of software called by Pine, that is > generating this message? It is usualy the transport program that check this. This means INN, C-News, NNTP or wathever your site use. > 2. How does whatever-it-is calculate the appropriate ratio? With INN, it check the number of lines witch begin with a ">" (a) and the number of lines witch doesn't (b). If a is greater than b, you got the error. To avoid this you can change the ">" for another symbol, add empty lines to your answer or have a very big .sig. Note that the last two suggestions go far agains proper Netiquette ;-). > 3. Is the some way to tweak the formula, or turn the checking off entirely? > (The latter might be preferable, as it would disallow "Ditto." posts, > which would be fine by me.) Again with INN (I presume it's the same thing with others) you can recompile the program with this option off. You sould ask your news administrator. Best ______________________________________________________________________________ Eric Beaudoin | Mes opignions sont miennes et Groupe DMR Inc. (514) 877-3301 | peuvent devenir les votres. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 05:32:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02006; Sun, 8 Jan 95 05:32:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06615; Sun, 8 Jan 95 05:19:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06609; Sun, 8 Jan 95 05:19:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQxMh-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 05:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) Subject: Re: JOE 2.4 - Now with SuperPico mode Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 13:08:52 GMT In article , Joseph H Allen wrote: >Version 2.4 of my editor is ready. You can get it by anonymous ftp from >ftp.std.com, file: src/editors/joe2.4.tar.Z. It probably will not appear >until the sysop comes in on monday, however. Please wait for version 2.5 to appear. Version 2.4 has a minor bug which prevents you from creating new files. -- /* jhallen@world.std.com (192.74.137.5) */ /* Joseph H. Allen */ int a[1817];main(z,p,q,r){for(p=80;q+p-80;p-=2*a[p])for(z=9;z--;)q=3&(r=time(0) +r*57)/7,q=q?q-1?q-2?1-p%79?-1:0:p%79-77?1:0:p<1659?79:0:p>158?-79:0,q?!a[p+q*2 ]?a[p+=a[p+=q]=q]=q:0:0;for(;q++-1817;)printf(q%79?"%c":"%c\n"," #"[!a[q-1]]);} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 07:24:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03760; Sun, 8 Jan 95 07:24:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11202; Sun, 8 Jan 95 07:20:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11196; Sun, 8 Jan 95 07:20:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rQzFi-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 07:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tbear@calon.com (tbear) Subject: printer Message-Id: Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 14:41:41 GMT Help I have a problem with my printer using pine. I have a IBM PS/2 Model 30 with mcga screen. My printer is an Epson Action Printer 2250. When I tell the pine to use ansi to ansi and then ask it to print what is in my mail box I get nothing to print. I am not very good at computers but I do understand the basics. Could anyone help with my problem. Thank you in advance, Tbear From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 08:41:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04912; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:41:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12038; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12032; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR0PE-00038JC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Shrim Dude! Subject: Test Ignore Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 10:49:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <3ep130$l5a@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ep130$l5a@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Million apologies to post a Test message to c.m.p But this is a test to see if the Followup-To header works. PS: btw is there something wrong with Pine Mail-to-News gateway ? -- .---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 08:41:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04914; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:41:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08786; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:35:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08780; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:35:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR0P8-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 08:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Setting Followup-To header Date: 8 Jan 1995 15:41:20 GMT Message-Id: <3ep130$l5a@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Piners, I have added a "Followup-To" header in my customized-hdrs option. When I post to a newsgroup, I can set the followups to go to another newsgroup by simply typing that newsgroups name at the Followup-To: header. It accepts the value, so far so good the article gets posted. Then I want to Reply to this post to see if this actually works from Pine. Nope, it takes the value in Newsgrps: header but not the other. But when I use Tin to reply to this post, it warns me that the followups are re-directed to another newsgroup and the newsgroup name. Question is why does Pine ignore my Followup-To header while Tin doesn't? -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 10:20:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06722; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:20:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13270; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:17:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13264; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:17:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id MAA04024 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 12:17:05 -0600 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 12:17:05 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199501081817.MAA04024@opus.csd.uwm.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine on usl svr4 Does anyone have pine running on this platform and if so could you send me diffs or let me know how to get the source? thx! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 10:52:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07433; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:52:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10274; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:44:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10268; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:44:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR2Ro-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmead@goof.com (matthew c. mead) Subject: PGP mail with pine Date: 8 Jan 1995 18:34:34 GMT Message-Id: <3epb7q$o0v@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I've been using perl scripts for PGP mail in elm for a while, and I've been told by a friend of mine that pine has PGP support built it. Is this true? If not, what mechanism is used to achieve the encryption and decryption? Also, where can I find it ... thanks for any help! -matt -- Matthew C. Mead -- System/Network Administration, User Support, Software Devel. Virginia Tech Center for Transportation Research Work Related: mmead@ctr.vt.edu | All Other: mmead@goof.com WWW: http://www.goof.com:/~mmead From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 11:04:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07643; Sun, 8 Jan 95 11:04:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13795; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:59:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13789; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:59:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR2gq-00038JC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 10:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: poyner@primenet.com (Brandon Lee Poyner) Subject: pine 3.90 eating CPU on exit Date: 8 Jan 1995 18:49:05 GMT Message-Id: <3epc31$d43@news.primenet.com> My internet provider uses pine 3.90 running on BSDI. Every time I exit pine, it just hangs. It would hang as long as it could, except that i terminate it with a interupt (^C) I have pine aliased to 'pine -d 0 -i -z' .. so that I don't get debug information (-d 0), initially i go into the incoming folder (-i) and I want it to respond to control-z (-z) I just logged in twice (via PPP) to see what's happening, and did a 'ps ugx' upon my attempt to exit pine. Here's what I got... USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND poyner 29541 82.8 0.0 1196 584 pe R+ 11:09PM 0:56.21 pine 0 poyner 29458 0.0 0.0 572 460 q2 Ss 11:08PM 0:00.68 -bash (bash) poyner 29430 0.0 0.0 572 468 pe Is 11:08PM 0:00.52 -bash (bash) poyner 29681 0.0 0.0 272 200 q2 R+ 11:11PM 0:00.03 ps -ugx I believe it's the -d 0 option that causes this, but to have one process eating 82% CPU really isn't good for the system. I've also used an older (i believe) version of pine and not had this problem with the same command line, but that was also on Ultrix. Anybody know what causes this? Thanks. ____________________________________________________________ ______________ )_/~~~~~\____/~~~\___/~~~~~\___/~~\/~~\____/~~~~\___/~~~~\___| poyner@ ( (__/~\ /~~\__/~\ /~\__/~\ ___/~\/~~\/~\__/~\ /~\__/~\ /~\_| primenet.com ) )_/~\_/~~\__/~~~~~\__/~~~~~\__/~\____/~\__/~\__/~\__/~\__/~\_:--------------( (__/~\_/~~\__/~\ /~\__/~\ ___/~\____/~\__/~\__/~\__/~\__/~\_| http://www. ) )_/~~~~~\___/~\_/~\__/~~~~~\__/~\____/~\___/~~~~\___/~\__/~\_| primenet.com ( (___------____-___-____-----____-______-_____----_____-____-__| /~poyner/ ) )-----------------------------------------------------------~---------------( ( Price does not include tacks? TACKS? I don't want TACKS in my food! oh, tax ) `---------------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 13:26:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10260; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:26:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12088; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:20:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12076; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:20:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR4rE-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guojin@iss.nus.sg (Guo Jin) Subject: [?] pine & ispell Date: 8 Jan 1995 03:48:52 GMT Message-Id: <3ennb4$46s@holodeck.iss.nus.sg> Hi, there, Is there a way to use ispell together with pine/pico? And, is there a "standard" API for spell checkers which can provide candidate suggestions? Thanks. GuoJin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 13:31:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10347; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:31:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15557; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:24:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15551; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:24:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR4yn-00038JC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 13:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Using Pine to post to newsgroups Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 21:54:05 -0600 References: <3eikss$73k@nkosi.well.com> In-Reply-To: <3eikss$73k@nkosi.well.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 6 Jan 1995, Charles H. Hubbell wrote: How does one perform that operation? Chuck Hubbell Hit "r" or "c". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLw274eBu0383Om6dAQFD3AQAoZA4t4onwK7FVyQ3hK6ksKyNvNOr52KM VsJ88WpXaciDqcA0lufd6ulLHuTLt2BzDgKgryL83/UVq1P+DmwyHJyO+W+v2ngP PGzcJ+PWXVpwWIneIhaSuLdwbc9RVmKh0R1+4Ymz8twLn1EPz5KL+fX7UJI6pJnv B1ebyuBLTdo= =mxW2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc prudence dictates a low profile -- Sandy Sandfort finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f | tee mkpgp.txt.uu | more From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 15:37:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12873; Sun, 8 Jan 95 15:37:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13783; Sun, 8 Jan 95 15:33:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13777; Sun, 8 Jan 95 15:33:36 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (knute@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA13282 for ; Sun, 8 Jan 1995 15:33:34 -0800 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 15:33:36 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Guo Jin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [?] pine & ispell In-Reply-To: <3ennb4$46s@holodeck.iss.nus.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Jan 1995, Guo Jin wrote: > Hi, there, > > Is there a way to use ispell together with pine/pico? > > And, is there a "standard" API for spell checkers which can provide > candidate suggestions? > > Thanks. > > GuoJin > > Can you FTP? If so, you'll find a wealth of infomation (and an answer to your specific question) at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs If you can www try http://www.cac.washington.edo/pine If you can't, maybe I can dig up the old e-mail and send it to you. ---Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS, Inc. or knute@teleport.com CompuServe: 72144,1646 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 16:33:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13838; Sun, 8 Jan 95 16:33:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14615; Sun, 8 Jan 95 16:29:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14609; Sun, 8 Jan 95 16:29:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR7rt-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 16:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (D. A. Scocca) Subject: True Sort of a Mailbox? Date: 9 Jan 1995 00:15:43 GMT Message-Id: <3epv7f$19gq@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> I have a problem in Pine 3.91 (Unix). I want to start downloading some of my mail folders. Unfortunately, I have not always moved mail into folders in the same order in which I received it, although I would like to download files with the messages in that order. The sort command seems to sort only the index on the screen, not the acutal order of the messages in the file. Is there any way to change this so that it sorts the file itself? I believe that one work-around is: Sort the index Select all messages Extract all selected messages into a new file Download that new file But I'm wondering if there's a more direct way.... Any hints? (Please reply by email if possible...) Thanks... Dave Scocca -- * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 17:23:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15167; Sun, 8 Jan 95 17:23:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18803; Sun, 8 Jan 95 17:21:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18797; Sun, 8 Jan 95 17:21:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rR8cy-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 17:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Grant Young Subject: PC Pine & SLIP Date: 9 Jan 1995 01:10:29 GMT Message-Id: <3eq2e5$cqr@saba.info.ucla.edu> Hello Pine Folks: I'm truly in need of help. I want to use the packet version of PC Pine 3.91 to connect via a SLIP connection to my school's mail/news system. I am using the Univ. of Minnesota's UMSLIP.COM Packet driver for SLIP, version 2.1 and PHONE.EXE to dial into my school's slip server. Gopher, Minuet and DosLynx are working great. Whenever I try to run Pine, I get an error message stating that BOOTP failed. When I manually enter my IP address, gateway, nameserver, etc., Pine returns a message stating that my INBOX cannot be opened because the [Host cannot be found]. I can successfully run the packet version of PC Pine with the Crynwr Packet driver for a 3c509 NIC, version 11.2. I do not use BOOTP when I use the Crynwr 3c509 packet driver. Any thoughts as to what the problem is? Grant From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 20:54:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20492; Sun, 8 Jan 95 20:54:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18774; Sun, 8 Jan 95 20:51:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18768; Sun, 8 Jan 95 20:51:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRBtm-00038CC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 20:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: entropy@IntNet.net (Jonathan Cooper) Subject: [ killfile ] Date: 8 Jan 1995 23:14:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3eqd71$hgt@xcalibur.IntNet.net> How would I kill all mail that comes from a certain address using pine itself? Does pine support killfiles? Yes, I know I could just make a procmail recipe, but I'd like to use just pine. -jon -- ( --------[ Jonathan D. Cooper ]--------[ entropy@intnet.net ]-------- ) ( PGP 2.6.2 keyprint: 31 50 8F 82 B9 79 ED C4 5B 12 A0 35 E0 9B C0 01 ) ( home page: http://taz.hyperreal.com/~entropy/ ]---[ Key-ID: 4082CCB5 ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 8 22:18:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22000; Sun, 8 Jan 95 22:18:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22636; Sun, 8 Jan 95 22:15:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22630; Sun, 8 Jan 95 22:15:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRDEY-00038LC; Sun, 8 Jan 95 22:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dkraemer@crl.com (Dan Kraemer) Subject: Filtering w/ Procmail Help Date: 9 Jan 1995 06:03:15 GMT Message-Id: <3eqjj3$s2h@nntp.crl.com> I'm using procmail to filter e-mail from a few mailing lists into separate folders. I've recently subscribed to a new mailing list in which the headers don't match exactly what I need to make my procmail recipes work. Here's a header of one of the mails: >From danorton@chsw.win.netSun Jan 8 21:59:55 1995 Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 11:53:09 -0600 From: "Daniel A. Norton" Reply to: familylaw-l@acc.wuacc.edu To: dkraemer@crl.com Subject: Re: Group Therapy, Evidentiar... What recipe should I use to save this to INFAMILYLAW? All of the other lists I'm on have the To: line which includes the list name... This list sends the email to my address with just the Reply to: line having familylaw in it... Can anyone clue me in? -- -Dan Kraemer dkraemer@crl.com "Bad movie? You're soaking in it!" -Crow, _The Giant Gila Monster_, MST3K From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 02:45:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27336; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:45:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25997; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:40:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25991; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:40:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRHOa-00038JC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Keith M. Rainey" Subject: Adding to addressbook Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 17:24:32 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use a lot of lists in my addressbook and I am constantly changing lists, and adding new lists. Is there a way to append a text file of addresses into the .addressbook file? It would make my life a little easier (since I'm so lazy). Also, is there a way to send address lists to other users without them having to type in all of the names? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Keith M. Rainey Louisiana Tech University Biomedical Engineering kmr@engr.latech.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 02:48:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27381; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:48:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22950; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:40:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22944; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:40:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRHM4-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 02:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harle@venus.usna.navy.mil (Mr. Jim Harle (CSERV STAFF)) Subject: Re: Address book tools Message-Id: References: <3eg0ni$frq@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:48:54 GMT We have been using a link to ph from pine for a while now. Its useful as-is, but I wanted to do some work on it before I sent it to the folks at Univ of Washington. There are a few bugs when names aren't found and more than one submission on the "To:" line. Feel free to Email me if you want the code anyway. Tim O'Connor (oconnort@acf2.nyu.edu) wrote: : Edward Vielmetti (emv@recepsen.aa.msen.com) wrote: : > - an interface to finger, whois, or some other directory service : > so that you can look people up : Yes, today we were talking about the possibility of doing ph lookups : from within Pine 3.91, since we're running a ph server in production : now. : I said I'd browse through the archives at the uwashington ftp site to : see if the topic had been raised, but (as often happens) I didn't need : to look any further than this newsgroup. : Many thanks for the timely discussion! : --tim o'connor : +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ : Tim O'Connor tim.oconnor@nyu.edu : NYU Academic Computing Facility Phone: (212) 998-3024 : 251 Mercer St., New York, NY 10012 Fax: (212) 995-4120 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 07:50:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04537; Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:50:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27005; Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:41:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26999; Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:41:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRLzI-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 07:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hank Burchard Subject: ddoouubbllee lleetteerrss Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:24:43 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Every once in a while, in the midst of composing a message, I start getting doubled letters on my screen (as in the subject line above). It seems to happen at random and often clears up in a moment or two, but sometimes I have to sign off and then dial up again to get it to stop. It's not an improper echo setting, which is all I get from the faq. Any technowhizzes out there have a solution? Thanx in advance.... + + + + + Hank Burchard * Weekend Section * The Washington Post 1150 15th Street NW * Washington DC USA 20071-0001 VoiceMail (202) 334-7243 * Email: burchard@twp.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 09:06:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07840; Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:06:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01592; Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:52:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01586; Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:52:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRNAv-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 08:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Nelson Subject: Winsock Pine lockups Date: 9 Jan 1995 16:35:23 GMT Message-Id: <3erokb$er5@athena.athenet.net> Has anyone else had problems with lockups in Winsock Pine 3.91? It seems that when various network operations take place that pine will not be able to finish it's current operation but will not time out either. Examples are selecting an invalid newsgroup or server. Also if I leave Pine minimized for part of a day it will alway be hung. When it's hung the menus will still operate though some will be grayed including exit, no keys will work and quitting windows gives the error saying that the network was in use and windows tried to restore it to it's previous state but rebooting may be required. I am using Pathworks 5.1 for my TCP/IP and winsock. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 09:59:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10588; Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:59:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02913; Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:47:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calafia.uabcs.mx by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02907; Mon, 9 Jan 95 09:47:21 -0800 Received: by calafia.uabcs.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA07817; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:46:23 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 09:46:23 -0600 (CST) From: Thomas Hucke Reply-To: Thomas Hucke Subject: Don't get pcpine_f running..HELP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I need help from a PC-PINE specialist!! We are running PC-PINE 3.89 and FTP PCTCP 2.20 without problems. But after installing PCPINE 3.91 over version 3.89 and trying to send mail I get always the message: Error connecting to mail server. Then I installed PCPINE 3.91 from the scratch. I start PCPINE and I can send mail. I leave the program and start again PCPINE. But I cannot send mail a second time, always I receive the message: Error connecting to mail server:. I return to PCPINE 3.89 and everything works fine. What's going on ? Has PC-PINE for FTP PCTCP a bug or do I have to upgrade some files ? Somebody told me, I have to take ODIPKT 3.0. But why does v.89 work fine and v.91 doesn't ? Several times I send a report to pine@cac.washington.edu, but nothing. Can anybody help me ? TIA, Thomas Hucke Universidad Autonoma de Baja California Sur / Mexico hucke@calafia.uabcs.mx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 10:14:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11620; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:14:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03349; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:03:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03343; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:03:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (corrigan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA27024; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:03:30 -0800 Message-Id: <199501091803.KAA27024@weber.ucsd.edu> To: dkraemer@crl.com (Dan Kraemer) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering w/ Procmail Help In-Reply-To: Your message of "09 Jan 1995 06:03:15 +0000." <3eqjj3$s2h@nntp.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <27020.789674610.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 10:03:30 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" :0: *^Reply to: familylaw-l@acc.wuacc.edu INFAMILYLAW > I'm using procmail to filter e-mail from a few mailing lists into > separate folders. I've recently subscribed to a new mailing list in > which the headers don't match exactly what I need to make my procmail > recipes work. Here's a header of one of the mails: > > From danorton@chsw.win.netSun Jan 8 21:59:55 1995 > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 11:53:09 -0600 > From: "Daniel A. Norton" > Reply to: familylaw-l@acc.wuacc.edu > To: dkraemer@crl.com > Subject: Re: Group Therapy, Evidentiar... > > What recipe should I use to save this to INFAMILYLAW? All of the other > lists I'm on have the To: line which includes the list name... This list > sends the email to my address with just the Reply to: line having > familylaw in it... Can anyone clue me in? > > -- > > -Dan Kraemer > dkraemer@crl.com > > "Bad movie? You're soaking in it!" > -Crow, _The Giant Gila Monster_, MST3K > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 10:27:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12361; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:27:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00869; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:20:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calafia.uabcs.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00863; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:20:41 -0800 Received: by calafia.uabcs.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA09655; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:19:53 -0600 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:19:52 -0600 (CST) From: Thomas Hucke Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII set pine-info mail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 10:44:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13783; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:44:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01378; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:38:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01372; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:38:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14051; Mon, 9 Jan 95 10:38:55 -0800 Date: Wed, 28 Dec 1994 12:06:07 -0800 (PST) From: rich hurley To: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: Altos system 5 version Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 10:38:52 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I work at a UNIX Var and we are now using pine on sco based machines. My question is do you have a version of pine that can be compiled and executed on an Altos 386 box, running Altos Unix System V? Any help is appreciated... rhurley@teleport.com rah@masi.com rhurley@teleport.COM Public Access User --- Not affiliated with Teleport Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 220-1016 (2400-14400, N81) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 11:07:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15684; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:07:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04875; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:01:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cv4.chem.purdue.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04869; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:01:19 -0800 Received: by cv4.chem.purdue.edu (931110.SGI.ANONFTP/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA18795; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:02:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:02:10 -0500 From: lev@cv4.chem.purdue.edu (Lev A. Gorenstein) Message-Id: <9501091902.AA18795@cv4.chem.purdue.edu> To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu Guys, Shame on you! I understand that you're busy because people are sending you bullshit questions (and the amount of bullshit is much more than the amount of gold in it). But still, what you've done is, well, let's say "impolite", though some other words are on the tip of my tongue. I received the AUTOMATED answer from you A WEEK (!!!) after I sent you my bug report! If you use the program to automatically fetch the standard text as a reply-acknoledgement of receiving a report, than it shouldn't take A WEEK to send acknoledgement! And if I'm wrong and you read my report, and than sent me this formal crap that "people are asking us about IRC, talk chat, disk space..." (and there was nothing about it in my mail)... Well, if so, than I have no words... This is not the civilized way of treating people: first you ask "Please, send us bug reports, we will greatly appreciate it!", and than you just pee at those who did answer to your soliciting and send you a letter about improving YOUR server. Damn, I expect apologees! Hope that I won't get the same text about "no disk space on your host", etc. again. ____________________________________________ Lev A. Gorenstein Chemistry Department Purdue University W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 lev@chem.purdue.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 11:21:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16799; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:21:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02426; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:17:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from atc.boeing.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02420; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:17:33 -0800 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA03286; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:21:22 -0800 Received: from bcstec.ca.boeing.com by splinter.boeing.com with SMTP (1.37.109.14/16.2) id AA219529001; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:16:41 -0800 Received: by bcstec.ca.boeing.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01533; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:17:08 PST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 11:17:07 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Scott Subject: Re: FTP for Pine To: Knute Snortum Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Knute Snortum wrote: > > Boy, people are really nervous about getting flamed these days. It's > okay; we're all friendly here. You got that right ... seems everybody who thinks thier and internet cop will drop a flame on you in a heartbeat. > I believe you can FPT right into cac.washington.edu and get the latest She just emailed me on it and gave me the full route ... thanks for the help | Ricky Scott | All Comments (unfortunately) | | kf7qz@bectec.ca.boeing.com | are purely my own and do not | | kf7qz@prostar.com | reflect the views nor are | | | supported by my employer | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 11:35:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17847; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:35:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02808; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:31:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ds1.gl.umbc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02802; Mon, 9 Jan 95 11:31:02 -0800 Received: from umbc8.umbc.edu (stoppe1@f-umbc8.umbc.edu [130.85.3.8]) by ds1.gl.umbc.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA15309 for ; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:01 -0500 Received: (stoppe1@localhost) by umbc8.umbc.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA24930; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:31:00 -0500 From: Avi Golden X-Sender: stoppe1@umbc8.umbc.edu To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: not a bug report, a request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sure, FAQ me. avi ******************** Can anyone say, "Oslo Accords"? ****************** Rule #76 of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition: Every once in a while, declare peace. It confuses the hell out of your enemies. - Quark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 12:09:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20757; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:09:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03882; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:05:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ssi.edc.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03858; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:05:05 -0800 Received: from ssi.edc.org by ssi.edc.org id aa19433; 9 Jan 95 15:03 EST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:03:32 -0500 (EST) From: Gunther Anderson To: Pine Information List Cc: "Carol J. Fox" , Pine Developers Subject: Re: Bug (ID JX1YQ): Trying to Solve a Two Problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Carol J. Fox wrote: > > > Subject: Bug (ID JX1YQ): Trying to Solve a Two Problems > > > > > > We have a user on our freenet who is telling us that the L (Folder) > > section locks up on her when she tries to use PINE. She can get no > > further. None of our other users have complained. She thinks the > > problem is on our end because it happens whenever she logs in from any > > computer on her network but to noone else who logs in from her network. > > We think its on her end because no one else is having the same problem. > > Can you shed any light on this? You might try, from the root account (so you don't have to know her password), logging into her account and checking this phenomenon from your own controlled environment. However, my first thought is to check the filenames in her mail/ direcory for illegal characters. If she managed to create a folder whose name involves a strategic set of illegal characters (^S comes to mind), it could stop her connection immediately upon an attempt to display it. > > Another user has his main email account on Delphi and would like PINE on > > our system to automatically send his email on our system to his Delphi > > account. Is this possible? No, that's not what Pine does. You will want to look into message forwarding at the transport level. Look into .forward (or .maildelivery if you're using MMDF) files on your system, or talk to the administrator about putting an entry in the system aliases file to automatically redirect incoming messages. But Pine only reads messages once they're in the mailbox, and it only does that when it's told to. It won't do any automatic processing when no one's logged in, and it can't touch mail until its already been delivered. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 12:51:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22836; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:51:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07872; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:47:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from San-A.grbb.polymtl.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07863; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:47:36 -0800 Received: by grbb.polymtl.ca (930420.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA17978; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:50:32 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:50:31 -0500 (EST) From: Gildas PERROT X-Sender: perrot@San-A To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Bug (ID J907O): New suggestion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like the latest FAQ about Pine. Thanks in advance. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 13:03:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23702; Mon, 9 Jan 95 13:03:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08087; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:57:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun1.wwb.noaa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08081; Mon, 9 Jan 95 12:57:10 -0800 Received: Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:57:07 EST from sgi11.wwb.noaa.gov by sun1.wwb.noaa.gov (4.1/1.5) Received: by sgi11.wwb.noaa.gov (920110.SGI/890607.SGI) (for @sun1.wwb.noaa.gov:pine-info@cac.washington.edu) id AA17546; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:57:03 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 15:46:00 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Reynolds Subject: Re: New Version To: Pine Information List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am a disappointed in your response. I have looked through your ftp and www tools. Other than wishing to give you a pat on the back for pine, I really have just one request. IS THERE A MORE RECENT VERSION OF PINE THAT RUNS ON A SILICON GRAPHICS MACHINE? If so where is it in your anonymous ftp account. On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > This is a response to your Pine* bug report. The purpose of this message > is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for > the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you > that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it > carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. > > Pine is now used by well over a million people around the world, and > thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent > to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no > funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no > longer possible to answer all of them individually. > > Please note that we get many questions which are not actually about Pine. > We can't help you with other programs (talk, chat, IRC), with disk space > on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses. Talk with your > local computer support people about these issues. > > Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list > about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers > you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, > simply REPLY to this message. > > The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark > University of Washington of, and copyright by, the > Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PINE INFORMATION RESOURCES > > For information on how to configure and use Pine, we encourage you > to read Pine's on-line help, including the Release Notes (the R command > on the Main Menu.) In addition, those of you handy with FTP or WWW > tools may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information > Center servers: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine > > The Pine Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list is available on those > servers. > > Here are some additional sources of assistance: > > o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to > contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" > on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. > > o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you > *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the > world-wide "pine-info" email list at: > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine > are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). > Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system > administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. > > o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development > team directly, send a message to: > pine@cac.washington.edu > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 3 Jan 1995, Richard Reynolds wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jan 1995 09:00:04 -0500 (EST) > > From: Richard Reynolds > > To: pine@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: New Version > > > > I have just discovered pine is on our unix system. I am delighted > > with it. However, as with all users, there are a few things I would > > like to change. > > > > 1) When I paste into it with my mouse, the text is justifed. This is > > not done correctly and the blocking for the rest of the file is destroyed. > > I would like to be able to turn the justify off! > > > > 2) I wish I could define some special keys. For instance, I would define > > page up and page down to be ^V and ^Y. > > > > 3) I wish the mouse worked! > > > > I suspect some of thse problems might be fixed in your latest version. I > > am using pine version 3.07 on a silicon graphics workstation. I noticed > > in you ftp server that version 3.90 is available. However, from the > > documentation, I am not sure which version to get. The version for the > > sun? When I get the new version, can it be installed without being "root"? > > > > Thanks again for your efforts. Pine is so much better than unix mail! > > > > Best regards, Dick Reynolds > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Richard W. Reynolds Coupled Model Project W/NMCx3 > > INTERNET: wd01rr@sgi11.wwb.noaa.gov National Meteorological Center > > World Weather Building, Room 807 > > PHONE: (301) 763-8396 5200 Auth Road > > FAX: (301) 763-8125 Camp Springs, MD 20746 USA > > Note: the two characters after "sgi" are two ones not two Ls. > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 14:46:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01461; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:46:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08429; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:41:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tyrell.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08423; Mon, 9 Jan 95 14:41:55 -0800 Received: from arrowhead.UUCP by tyrell.net with UUCP id AA13277 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 16:39:28 -0600 Received: by arrowhead.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA04550; Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:36:54 CST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 16:36:54 -0600 (CST) From: Bill Murray X-Sender: wpm@arrowhead To: Pine Information List Subject: Please send faq In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 426 Please send me a copy of your faq --------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Bill Murray | email: bmurray@arrowhead.com | | Systems Manager | voice: 816-861-1113 Ext 3119 | | Arrowhead Distributors, Inc. | fax: 816-861-4139 | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 15:16:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03095; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:16:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09289; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:12:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rs8.loc.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09281; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:12:17 -0800 Received: by rs8.loc.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA48334; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:14:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: George Walser To: Pine Information List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: Re: Bug (ID XI7QJ): no mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I got my E-mail working again, but Im not quite sure how. Thank you for responding, even if you couldnt help directly. I appreciate the thought. George Walser gwal@loc.gov (no need to reply to this) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 15:42:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04391; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:42:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10003; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:37:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09995; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:37:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRTVR-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Pine-Bugs canned reply and FAQ requests Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:14:24 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In my zeal to clear out some of the backlog of messages to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, I inadvertantly sent out a couple hundred copies of a message that implied that a copy of the Pine FAQ could be obtained simply by sending a message to pine-info@cac.washington.edu (via a "Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu" header) This was done manually, but the text of the message I am sending is a slightly modified version of the text that will soon be sent out automatically when reports are filed to pine-bugs from outside the University of Washington. The automated reply will not reference pine-info in the headers. I am appending a copy of the text of the message below for your reference. I'm sorry if this causes undue clutter on comp.mail.pine/pine-info. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA ------- This is a response to your Pine* bug report. The purpose of this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. Pine is now used by well over a million people around the world, and thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no longer possible to answer all of them individually. Please note that we get many questions which are not actually about Pine. We can't help you with other programs (talk, chat, IRC), with disk space on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses. Talk with your local computer support people about these issues. Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, simply REPLY to this message. The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark University of Washington of, and copyright by, the Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- PINE INFORMATION RESOURCES For information on how to configure and use Pine, we encourage you to read Pine's on-line help, including the Release Notes (the R command on the Main Menu.) In addition, those of you handy with FTP or WWW tools may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information Center servers: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The Pine Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list is available on those servers. Here are some additional sources of assistance: o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the world-wide "pine-info" email list at: pine-info@cac.washington.edu or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development team directly, send a message to: pine@cac.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 15:52:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04894; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:52:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13103; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:48:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13097; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:48:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRTbr-00038LC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: A GUI for Unix-based Pine? Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:24:29 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3el2fa$33e@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3el2fa$33e@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> We are currently experimenting with limited mouse capabilities when running Pine in an xterm. This feature will probably be included in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Jan 1995, Craig Marker wrote: > Date: 7 JAN 1995 03:40:26 GMT > From: Craig Marker > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: A GUI for Unix-based Pine? > > 6. January 1995 > > To Whoever can answer... > > I am looking for a GUI for Unix-based Pine, preferably something like > Mosaic. > > If anyone could point me in the right direction, I would really > appreciate it. > > Craig > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 15:59:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05187; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:59:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10352; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:51:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aldus.northnet.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10346; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:51:09 -0800 Received: by Aldus.NorthNet.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA12185; Mon, 9 Jan 95 18:51:48 EST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:51:47 -0500 (EST) From: Nick Zappia To: Pine Information List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: Re: Bug (ID F31U4): M In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In response to your response. Sunday night I was on the net and my screen flashed this message about a bug. I did not understand the message and inadvertantly sent a message. I appologize for any inconvience I may have caused you. zappia@northnet.org On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > This is a response to your Pine* bug report. The purpose of this message > is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for > the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you > that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it > carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. > > Pine is now used by well over a million people around the world, and > thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent > to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no > funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no > longer possible to answer all of them individually. > > Please note that we get many questions which are not actually about Pine. > We can't help you with other programs (talk, chat, IRC), with disk space > on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses. Talk with your > local computer support people about these issues. > > Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list > about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers > you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, > simply REPLY to this message. > > The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark > University of Washington of, and copyright by, the > Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PINE INFORMATION RESOURCES > > For information on how to configure and use Pine, we encourage you > to read Pine's on-line help, including the Release Notes (the R command > on the Main Menu.) In addition, those of you handy with FTP or WWW > tools may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information > Center servers: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine > > The Pine Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list is available on those > servers. > > Here are some additional sources of assistance: > > o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to > contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" > on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. > > o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you > *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the > world-wide "pine-info" email list at: > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine > are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). > Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system > administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. > > o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development > team directly, send a message to: > pine@cac.washington.edu > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Sun, 8 Jan 1995, Nick Zappia wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 19:10:44 -0500 (EST) > > From: Nick Zappia > > To: Pine Developers > > Subject: Bug (ID F31U4): M > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 16:03:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05489; Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:03:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10490; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10484; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:57:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRTn1-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 15:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Setting Followup-To header Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 14:37:41 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3ep130$l5a@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ep130$l5a@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Pine allows you to define any headers you want, but it does not currently understand that followup-to has any special meaning.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jan 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 8 JAN 1995 15:41:20 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Setting Followup-To header > > Piners, > > I have added a "Followup-To" header in my customized-hdrs option. > When I post to a newsgroup, I can set the followups to go to another > newsgroup by simply typing that newsgroups name at the Followup-To: > header. It accepts the value, so far so good the article gets posted. > > Then I want to Reply to this post to see if this actually works from > Pine. Nope, it takes the value in Newsgrps: header but not the other. > > But when I use Tin to reply to this post, it warns me that the followups > are re-directed to another newsgroup and the newsgroup name. > > Question is why does Pine ignore my Followup-To header while Tin doesn't? > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ > o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` > ======================================================================== > Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! > Mac*CHAT List Moderator. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 17:00:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08282; Mon, 9 Jan 95 17:00:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14877; Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:56:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14871; Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:56:06 -0800 Received: by ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA01233; Mon, 9 Jan 95 16:57:13 PST Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 16:57:13 -0800 (PST) From: Susanne Riedel <6500sra@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu> To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Bug (ID U72X1): Misspellings In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please send me the *entire* Pine Frequent Asked Question List. Thank you very much, Susanne Riedel On Jan 9, David Miller wrote: > > This is a response to your Pine* bug report. The purpose of this message > is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for > the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you > that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it > carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. > > Pine is now used by well over a million people around the world, and > thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent > to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no > funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no > longer possible to answer all of them individually. > > Please note that we get many questions which are not actually about Pine. > We can't help you with other programs (talk, chat, IRC), with disk space > on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses. Talk with your > local computer support people about these issues. > > Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list > about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers > you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, > simply REPLY to this message. > > The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark > University of Washington of, and copyright by, the > Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PINE INFORMATION RESOURCES > > For information on how to configure and use Pine, we encourage you > to read Pine's on-line help, including the Release Notes (the R command > on the Main Menu.) In addition, those of you handy with FTP or WWW > tools may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information > Center servers: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine > > The Pine Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list is available on those > servers. > > Here are some additional sources of assistance: > > o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to > contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" > on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. > > o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you > *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the > world-wide "pine-info" email list at: > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine > are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). > Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system > administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. > > o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development > team directly, send a message to: > pine@cac.washington.edu > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 4 Jan 1995, Susanne Riedel wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 1995 10:26:35 -0800 (PST) > > From: Susanne Riedel <6500sra@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu> > > To: Pine Developers > > Subject: Bug (ID U72X1): Misspellings > > > > I am excited about the new Pine version. However, one very simple task > > does not seem to be resolved or I cannot figure out how to do it. I am > > never able to correct a misspelled word in a text without deleting all > > the following words. I was hoping the new Pine version would resolve this > > easy problem but I am still not able to find out how to correct a word > > further up in the text I want to send by e-mail. Am I just ignorant about > > a command or how do I correct my text? I would appreciate a lot if you > > could help me. > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration, > > Susanne Riedel > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 17:40:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10552; Mon, 9 Jan 95 17:40:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15964; Mon, 9 Jan 95 17:37:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15958; Mon, 9 Jan 95 17:37:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRVN4-00038CC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 17:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosth (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: [ killfile ] Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:24:54 GMT Message-Id: <1995Jan10.002454.3778@math.utah.edu> References: <3eqd71$hgt@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Jonathan Cooper (entropy@news.IntNet.net) wrote: : How would I kill all mail that comes from a certain address using : pine itself? Does pine support killfiles? : Yes, I know I could just make a procmail recipe, but I'd like to : use just pine. : -jon : -- : ( --------[ Jonathan D. Cooper ]--------[ entropy@intnet.net ]-------- ) : ( PGP 2.6.2 keyprint: 31 50 8F 82 B9 79 ED C4 5B 12 A0 35 E0 9B C0 01 ) : ( home page: http://taz.hyperreal.com/~entropy/ ]---[ Key-ID: 4082CCB5 ) -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 18:19:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11711; Mon, 9 Jan 95 18:19:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16668; Mon, 9 Jan 95 18:16:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coho.halcyon.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16662; Mon, 9 Jan 95 18:16:54 -0800 Received: by halcyon.com id AA18400 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:16:48 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 18:16:46 -0800 (PST) From: Nathaniel Obezo X-Sender: zendog@coho.halcyon.com To: Pine Information List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: Re: Bug (ID SV6TB): 00000000000000 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII please send me the FAQ thank you Nathaniel Obezo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 20:05:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14410; Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:05:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18247; Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:00:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from axe.humboldt.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18241; Mon, 9 Jan 95 20:00:57 -0800 Received: from AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU by AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #8697) id <01HLNL0RZ24K8WWFGT@AXE.HUMBOLDT.EDU>; Mon, 09 Jan 1995 20:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 09 Jan 1995 20:00:39 -0700 (PDT) From: WITTMANS@axe.humboldt.edu Subject: FAQ, please In-Reply-To: To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 23:26:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18926; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:26:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21075; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:23:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21069; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:23:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRalM-00038KC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fpotter@solar.sky.net (Fred Potter) Subject: Does a Pine "Viewer" Program for PC Exist? Date: 9 Jan 1995 20:03:54 -0600 Message-Id: <3espua$pvu@solar.sky.net> Hi folks. This may sound goofy but here goes. I prefer *not* to use all the graphical stuff via SLIP etc. that is available because text is faster for me at 14.4. I'm kind of a packrat and I save all my mail. Here's what I'd like to do: download my saved-messages and sent-mail files from my Internet provider, store them on floppies and then view them on my PC with a small DOS program that looks like the Pine interface. That way I could view the "directory" of messages by subject line and date as though I was online. It would keep my workspace cleaned out, which would make my sysop happy. The alternative is scrolling through the entire file with a text editor or something. Is there such a program for DOS? Thanks, Fred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 23:42:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19181; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:42:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18308; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:38:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18302; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:38:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRb1g-00038CC; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray McAllister Subject: Home directory Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:24:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <3dt0gr$8b2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Question 1, Please help! How can I access or see what is in my "Home Directory"? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on either hard drive, to see what is in it; to use it, or to delete it. Thanks a million. Question 2, Where or how can I get a manual for Pine? Question 3, When I go into rz to bring a pre-existing file into my home directory I sometimes end up with the Procom 2 screen telling me Port in use, yet I have hung up. How can I get rid of Port in use and continue with Procom and pine without closing everything back to C:? Ray McAllister mcallist@gate.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 9 23:59:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19652; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:59:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21520; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:55:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21514; Mon, 9 Jan 95 23:55:16 -0800 Received: by sun; (5.65/1.1.8.2/29Jul94-0309AM) id AA29854; Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:54:20 -0800 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:54:20 -0800 (PST) From: Stuart Smith X-Sender: slsmith@sun To: Pine Information List Cc: Pine Developers Subject: Re: Bug (ID 6V7HI): problems accessing mail server, junk at end of , address" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for replying so quickly. Sorry about my spelling!! By the time I received your reply, I'd already solved the problem. I made a mistake when I configured pine. thanx again for your reply. Stuart L. Smith Lewis & Clark College Physical Plant Services Engineering services On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > This is a response to your Pine* bug report. The purpose of this message > is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for > the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you > that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it > carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. > > Pine is now used by well over a million people around the world, and > thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent > to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no > funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no > longer possible to answer all of them individually. > > Please note that we get many questions which are not actually about Pine. > We can't help you with other programs (talk, chat, IRC), with disk space > on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses. Talk with your > local computer support people about these issues. > > Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list > about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers > you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, > simply REPLY to this message. > > The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark > University of Washington of, and copyright by, the > Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > PINE INFORMATION RESOURCES > > For information on how to configure and use Pine, we encourage you > to read Pine's on-line help, including the Release Notes (the R command > on the Main Menu.) In addition, those of you handy with FTP or WWW > tools may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information > Center servers: > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine > http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine > > The Pine Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list is available on those > servers. > > Here are some additional sources of assistance: > > o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to > contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" > on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. > > o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you > *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the > world-wide "pine-info" email list at: > pine-info@cac.washington.edu > or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine > are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). > Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system > administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. > > o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development > team directly, send a message to: > pine@cac.washington.edu > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Sun, 8 Jan 1995, Stuart Smith wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 13:59:18 -0800 (PST) > > From: Stuart Smith > > To: Pine Developers > > Subject: Bug (ID 6V7HI): problems accessing mail server, junk at end of , address" > > > > That's the error I'm getting when I try to send any mail. Can you help me? > > Reply to:slsmith@lclark.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 00:33:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20404; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:33:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18924; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:30:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18918; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:30:10 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.5.1.c) via EUnet id JAA06566; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:31:51 +0100 Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by mailserver.fz.telekom.de (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA01870 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:26:07 +0100 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06095; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:28:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:28:33 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Widera To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Bug (ID DL4RK): cannot change standard-printer In-Reply-To: Message-Id: "Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, David L Miller wrote: > Below is the entry from the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list > about Pine information resources. We hope it points you to the answers > you need. If you would like to receive the *entire* Pine FAQ by email, > simply REPLY to this message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ralf Widera, FZ 211b Email: widera@fz.telekom.de DBP Telekom FTZ DBP Telekom FTZ Forschungs- und Technologiezentrum Research Center Am Kavalleriesand 3 (Postfach 10 00 03) PO Box: 10 00 03 64276 Darmstadt D-64276 Darmstadt 06151/83-3855, FAX: 06151/83-4066 +49 6151 83 3855, FAX: +49 6151 83 4066 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 00:37:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20531; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:37:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22066; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:33:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22060; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:33:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRbre-00038KC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Sum Up PGP use within Pine please... Date: 10 Jan 1995 09:25:06 GMT Message-Id: <3etjpi$aps@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Hi All, The question has been posted several times but I can't find a sum up of the answers in this newsgroup so here it is again... I will post a small FAQ if I receive enough answers : How to use PGP from within Pine ? Thanks Guy PS: it's illegal to use PGP encryption of the message's bodies in France, but for some security reasons people run PGP to certify emails and data sent over the net. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 01:04:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21230; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:04:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19312; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19306; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:59:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRcEh-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 00:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ycl6@namaste.cc.columbia.edu (Yeechang Lee) Subject: JOE 2.5 Date: 10 Jan 1995 08:02:23 GMT Message-Id: <3eteuf$1jk@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> References: Joseph H Allen says: |Please wait for version 2.5 to appear. Version 2.4 has a minor bug which |prevents you from creating new files. Well, I have 2.5 up and running, and it's nice! (I'm surprised the man page doesn't mention JOETERM, though.) I can't really say I've noticed much of a difference, but I'm sure it's all there. More kudos to Joe and JOE! And for you comp.mail.pine folk who have been looking for a nice, easy-to-use editor that doesn't have Pico's clunks, check out JOE--it fits the bill! -- _____________________________________________________________________ Yeechang Lee (ycl6@columbia.edu)|Nevada Las Vegas Mission Jul'92-'94 Columbia University/New York City|Celestial Kingdom through Taco Bell Still working on my juggling-while-I-play-the-harmonica routine . . . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 01:27:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21902; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:27:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22833; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:23:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22827; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:23:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRccT-00038KC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 00:42:54 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3estf0$saa@news.halcyon.com> Thank you, Ralph. The incoming volumne of mail has been terrible; many days there have been over 150 messages. That means that just to keep up, we have to answer mail at an average of one message every 3 minutes. Even if many messages can be ignored (either because the message is garbage or if it's clearly something that some other programmer should take care of), there are the messages which require a long, carefully-thought-out response that takes 20+ minutes. The worst cases were the ones where the user needed handholding; a single such user can take up a day or more, especially the ones who insist upon sending messages to our personal mailboxes... And that's with not getting any *programming work* done. I hoped to have IMAP4 done by early December, when I left for a one-month vacation. The flood of mail made it impossible. We hate having to send the canned message. But there's no choice; we have to get some work done, otherwise what with state budget cuts there might not be a Pine team (not that getting work done is any guarantee that the axe won't fall -- they are in a sour mood in Olympia, and axing visible efforts as a demonstration of "trimming the fat until it hurts" is very Politically Correct). Please keep the bouquets and testimonials coming -- it *does* help in justifying our continued existance! -- Mark -- On 10 Jan 1995, Ralph Sims wrote: > One might quip "You get what you pay for." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 01:42:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22428; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:42:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19969; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:38:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19963; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:38:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRcsi-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kjell@ulrik.uio.no (Kjell Andresen) Subject: mimecodes in header (v3.89) Date: 10 Jan 1995 09:26:01 GMT Message-Id: <3etjr9$29d@hermod.uio.no> I know there is newer pine-versions, but before I start compiling the newest version I wonder if this problem is solved: As a Norwegian I recieve a lot of mail using mime-characters. This is OK in the body (and even the attachments/viewing) of the message, but the header is *no* good. In this case the message origin is a mac, which is not set up correctly to ISO-8859-1: -------------------------- >From Steinar.Moum@usit.uio.no Tue Jan 10 10:23:20 1995 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 08:01:36 +0100 Subject: =?NS_4551-1?Q?R=7Cra?= er klar [The following text is in the "NS_4551-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] Fra kl 08.30 og deretter erfaringsvis ca 25 minutter, vil det v{re en vaffelsteking (buffret med to jern) p} gang i haven i 3. etg. >>>>>>> Mail-programmet er: Eudora 2.1.1 <<<<<<<<<<< --------------------------- Regards, Kjell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 01:51:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22666; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:51:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23121; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23115; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:45:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRcvE-00038LC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 01:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@halcyon.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu Date: 10 Jan 1995 03:04:00 GMT Message-Id: <3estf0$saa@news.halcyon.com> References: <9501091902.AA18795@cv4.chem.purdue.edu> lev@cv4.chem.purdue.edu (Lev A. Gorenstein) writes: >Guys, >my mail)... Well, if so, than I have no words... This is not the >civilized way of treating people: first you ask "Please, send us bug >reports, we will greatly appreciate it!", and than you just pee at those >who did answer to your soliciting and send you a letter about improving >YOUR server. Damn, I expect apologees! One might quip "You get what you pay for." -- Northwest NEXUS, Inc. takes Internet OUT of the box! info@nwnexus.wa.com, finger info@halcyon.com, or: http://www.halcyon.com / +1 206 455 3505 voice From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 03:12:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24172; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:12:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20948; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:05:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20942; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:05:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRe6a-00038SC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 02:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Farmer) Subject: Re: Filtering w/ Procmail Help Date: 9 Jan 1995 19:46:17 -0500 Message-Id: <3eslcp$5ce@aficom.ocunix.on.ca> References: <3eqjj3$s2h@nntp.crl.com> Dan Kraemer (dkraemer@crl.com) wrote: : From danorton@chsw.win.netSun Jan 8 21:59:55 1995 : Date: Sun, 8 Jan 1995 11:53:09 -0600 : From: "Daniel A. Norton" : Reply to: familylaw-l@acc.wuacc.edu : To: dkraemer@crl.com : Subject: Re: Group Therapy, Evidentiar... : What recipe should I use to save this to INFAMILYLAW? :0 * ^Reply-To.*familylaw-l@acc.wuacc.edu $MAILDIR/INFAMILYLAW -- Andrew Farmer // adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca AFI Communications, P.O.Box 11087 Station H, Nepean, Ontario, Canada, K2H 7T8 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 03:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24554; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24157; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:20:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24151; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:20:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rReNT-00038LC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdeem@crash.cts.com (Mike Deem) Subject: pine? lost ^c command Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:30:49 GMT Message-Id: Can't control my cancel or arrow commands . Does anyone know What could be the problem. thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 03:42:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24993; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:42:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21373; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:36:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21367; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:36:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRebM-00038SC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Murray Subject: Highlight Problem Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 9 Jan 1995 23:24:29 GMT I have dumped the control characters PINE sends to a file to examine. My findings are that Pine sends: Highlight on, Cursor Position, Text, Highlight off VT100 emulation doesn't seem to mind this syntax, however, my terminal wants to see: Cursor Position, Highlight on, Text and Highlight off Any ideas on how to change this. I have been through all of PINE's docs and can't find anything, been through termcaps info on my system and can't find anything. Bill Murray Systems Manager Arrowhead Distributors, Inc. arwhead@tyrell.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 03:51:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25182; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:51:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24448; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:44:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24442; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:44:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRekJ-00038LC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david@hpsgcsgb.sgp.hp.com (David Wong) Subject: Re: Why no uudecode in Pine? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:09:09 GMT References: <3ddfin$fem@news.halcyon.com> In article , egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) says: > > Simply use: > > | uudecode > > The file name to be created in in the first line of the uuencoded >data. i.e. begin file.gz 666 > Sorry to bug in, but can a multi-parts uuencoded file be decoded using Pine? I'm hunting for a reader that can do that. Thanks! Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 04:19:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26399; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:19:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22012; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:11:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22006; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:11:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRfBM-00038LC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 03:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) Subject: Re: JOE 2.4 - Now with SuperPico mode Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:56:16 GMT In article , Joseph H Allen wrote: >In article , >Joseph H Allen wrote: >>Version 2.4 of my editor is ready. You can get it by anonymous ftp from >>ftp.std.com, file: src/editors/joe2.4.tar.Z. It probably will not appear >>until the sysop comes in on monday, however. >Please wait for version 2.5 to appear. Version 2.4 has a minor bug which >prevents you from creating new files. I seem to be having a lot of trouble releasing this version of JOE. There is yet another dumb problem. If you compile it for terminfo, it doesn't work correctly. The fix is to replace the lines: a=tgoto(str,a1,a0); tputs(a,l,outout); in file termcap.c with: a=tgoto(s,a1,a0); /* Notice 'str' becomes 's' */ tputs(a,l,outout); return; /* Plus this 'return' is needed */ Also version 2.6 should appear some time today, which will have this fix. Thank you for your continued patience and support :-) -- /* jhallen@world.std.com (192.74.137.5) */ /* Joseph H. Allen */ int a[1817];main(z,p,q,r){for(p=80;q+p-80;p-=2*a[p])for(z=9;z--;)q=3&(r=time(0) +r*57)/7,q=q?q-1?q-2?1-p%79?-1:0:p%79-77?1:0:p<1659?79:0:p>158?-79:0,q?!a[p+q*2 ]?a[p+=a[p+=q]=q]=q:0:0;for(;q++-1817;)printf(q%79?"%c":"%c\n"," #"[!a[q-1]]);} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 04:33:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26730; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:33:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25131; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:20:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25125; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:20:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRfJA-00038OC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ponnusamy Rajendran Subject: News Collection - Empty List Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 05:56:30 GMT We have Pine 3.91 running on a SunOS4.1.x system. When expanding the News Collection folder I get [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] message. But when telnet to port 119 (for nntp services) on the news server, I can see the news group listing. Any suggestions ... Thanks ************************************************************ * * * Ponnusamy Rajendran (Raj) * * Department of Computer and Mathematical Sciences * * Victoria University of Technology Email: raj@yarra.vut.edu.au * * P.O. 14428, Melbourne Mail Centre Fax: +61 3 688 4050 * * MELBOURNE 3001, AUSTRALIA Tel: +61 3 688 4682 * * * ************************************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 04:39:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26879; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:39:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22263; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:34:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22257; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:34:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRfcU-00038OC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 04:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karel Kubat Subject: Highlighting and News reader capabilities Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:37:24 GMT First of all, congratulations to the Pine folks. I've been using Elm and Nn for e-mail / news, and I have just installed Pine (10 minutes of work) -- and it really surprised me that the thing runs. In fact, it runs like a dream. I have however a couple of questions. Please bear with me, I'm a novice concerning Pine. RTFM-pointers are welcome too, though I'd prefer an explanation. (1) I am using X-windows (Pine in an xterm window) and I _hate_ the reverse video displays that Pine uses. I managed to eliminate the reverse video as far as selected articles/mails go, but the main menu and other menus still use reverse video. Isn't there a better way? Even my non-X "man" can do underlines and boldfaces instead of reverse video! A _big_ request: how do I get Pine to discard reverse video completely, but use other termcap capabilities (e.g., color changes, boldface, or even underlining) instead? (2) When I use function keys (-k switch) I get rubbish, Pine fails to recognize them. I _know_ that I'm not using a proper VT100, but that should not matter. My /etc/termcap (yes, I've compiled Pine with termcap support, not terminfo) is correct though; e.g., my favorite editor Jove recognizes :k1, :k2 etc. correctly and translates the corresponding escape sequences to the right keys. So, another _big_ request: Pine should check /etc/termcap (if compiled so) and match incoming escape sequences to the keys stated there! Not hardwire F1, F2 etc! (3) I've set up Pine to get newsfeed from another cite. Pine seems to retrieve all messages when opening the corresponding folder! That's not really what I want. I've set up nn (nnmaster, nnadmin etc.) in such a way that _only_ the article titles are retrieved from the newsfeeder; the actual article is only requested when I want to read it. How do I get Pine to emulate such behavior? (4) Can Pine mark all the articles in a newsgroup as "read" at once? I would like this capability when I come home from a vacation, and get thousands of articles in some groups.. I just want to mark "all" as "read" and restart fresh the next day. Anyway, again: great work, Pine group. I am really extremely pleased, especially with the installation ease and simple usage. Please reply by e-mail (preferred) -- I am likely to miss follow-ups. -- Karel Kubat (karel@bambix.icce.rug.nl). You might be a redneck if.. Your mother does not remove the Marlboro from her mouth before telling the state trooper to kiss her ass. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 05:26:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28040; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:26:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25833; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:18:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25827; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:18:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRgDF-00038LC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Adding to addressbook answered (and a ?? of my own) Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:55:54 GMT In article , Keith M. Rainey wrote: > > I use a lot of lists in my addressbook and I am constantly >changing lists, and adding new lists. Is there a way to append a >text file of addresses into the .addressbook file? It would make >my life a little easier (since I'm so lazy). Also, is there a >way to send address lists to other users without them having to >type in all of the names? I would think doing something like: cat text.file >> .addressbook would do it. I don't quite understand the second part of what you are asking. However, since I am at it, I will ask a question of my own: In the index screen, we get a flag (N,D,A etc), the sender, the size and the subject. What exactly is that size indicating, and is there a way to change it to reflect the number of LINES in the mail message? - frank -- ************************************************************************** * Forever is a very brief time for a mortal... * * - Victoria, Vampire Goddess * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca ***** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 05:41:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28343; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:41:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26024; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:32:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from info.elf.stuba.sk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26020; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:31:58 -0800 Received: from elf.stuba.sk (decef.elf.stuba.sk) by info.elf.stuba.sk with SMTP id AA17641 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:16:27 +0100 Received: by elf.stuba.sk id AA10325 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:17:30 +0100 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 14:15:32 +0100 (MET) From: Jay R McVeigh Subject: advice (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any help would be appreciated in setting up the system!!!!!!!!! Jay R McVeigh Biomedical Engineering Educator c/o Project HOPE email: mcveigh@elf.stuba.sk Limbova 12 833 03 Bratislava, Slovak Republic phone ++42-7 (377-051) (377-052) fax ++42-7 (374-587) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 6 Jan 1995 12:31:33 +0100 (MET) From: Jay R McVeigh To: Tech Assistance Pine Subject: advice I would appreciate some assistance and advice in setting up a 486 system with the PC Pine programme. The system now uses a uupc programe to tie into what I believe is individual mail addresses for some doctors (10) I work with here in Bratislava. There is no technical support for the system and I am asked to help make the system more user friendly. The pc uses a phone line to dial into the mail addresses at another site and is very cumbersom and user un friendly. Windows 3.1 is being used on the pc and I would like to install pc pine for windows and hopefully make it easier. I have downloaded the pc pine for windows on my pc and also, mosaic and trumpet winsock. My problem is I am unsure as how to set up pine to dial out to the remote site and process the email. Thank you for your attention and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year ps This is my own email address at the university and totaly unrelated Jay R McVeigh Biomedical Engineering Educator c/o Project HOPE email: mcveigh@elf.stuba.sk Limbova 12 833 03 Bratislava, Slovak Republic phone ++42-7 (377-051) (377-052) fax ++42-7 (374-587) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 06:08:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28847; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:08:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23395; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:02:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23389; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:02:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRgyP-00038OC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 05:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcg@osf01.cc.rl.ac.uk (Dr J Gordon) Subject: Re: trouble with the return address Date: 10 Jan 1995 13:25:52 GMT Message-Id: <3eu1t0$1sd8@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> References: <9601051344.AA26314@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Terry Gray gave a clear explanation last week of what pine does with the address to the right of the @. Can he or anyone else describe how I can change the text to the left of the @? ie the username. My site runs a central mailer which knows about us all by name eg mail to me as j.c.gordon@rl.ac.uk is directed to my preferred mailbox. This all works fine and I use some MUAs which allow me to have a From: field of . Eudora and PC-PINE allow this. This way I only have to look in one place for incoming mail no matter how many machines I send from. Q: Can I achieve this with PINE on Unix? I know that I can add a Reply-To: header but this doesn't catch all the people who use useful tools like PINE's Takeaddress to copy From fields out of mail headers into addressbooks or nickname files. John Gordon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 06:25:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29235; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:25:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23569; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:17:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mineshaft.odi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23563; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:17:05 -0800 Received: from odi.com (mastermind.odi.com) by mineshaft.odi.com (5.65c/SMI-4.0/ODI-5) id AA03292; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:17:04 -0500 Received: from ima.odi.com by odi.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/ODI-15) id AA19320; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:17:02 EST Received: (bsmith@localhost) by ima.odi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA07463; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:16:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:16:51 -0500 (EST) From: "Bill R. Smith" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: FAQ Addition Request: You should put how to unsubscribe pine-info in there Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was a little surprised by the volume of email when I subscribed to pine-info. I deleted my pine-info subscription acknowledgement a little too hasty. In the FAQ, you should put in how to unsubscribe from the pine-info mailing list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 06:26:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29256; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:26:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26583; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:17:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26577; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:17:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRhCd-00038OC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) Subject: Re: base64 encoded text/plain Date: 4 Jan 1995 11:34:12 -0000 Message-Id: <3ee13k$lcq@kantti.Helsinki.FI> References: <9501031735.AA13736@cli51ak> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daniel Glazman wrote: >I often receive 7bit us-ascii text/plain bodyparts base64 encoded !!!! >But I can't determine which software is (automatically I believe, >I can't imagine it's the result of a human action) incriminated... Pine does this if you make the ASCII file an attachment of the message. If you just include the ASCII file in the message, this doesn't happen. I solved this annoyance by teaching my MTA to decode C-T: text/plain C-T-E: BASE64 to C-T-E: 7 or 8bit (depending on the charset). > -- Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen University of Helsinki Lea doesn't Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI Computing Centre rhyme with tea. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 06:32:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29399; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:32:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23622; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:20:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ois.state.de.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23616; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:20:11 -0800 Received: by ns.ois.state.de.us; Tue, 10 Jan 95 9:21:00 EST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 95 9:08:32 EST Message-Id: X-Priority: 1 (High) From: "Michael F. Stratton" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I set up my sendmail host for PCPINE X-Incognito-Sn: 1000 X-Incognito-Format: VERSION=2.00 EAP-1 ENCRYPTED=NO I am trying to set up PCPINE on my network. I use Winsock from a several vendors. My mailhost is a Sun SPARCServer20 running Solaris 2.3. \ PINE runs fine on the SPARC, and if you telnet to the SPARC. I read the FAQ and README files for PCPINE, and see that I have to set up an INBOX on my sendmail host. How do I set up these INBOX's and how do I give permission/allow connection to the SUN box for PCPINE to open this INBOX? I work for the State government, and we are attempting to set up mail accounts for all 100,000+ students K-12 in the states public school system. They will all have T-1 speed connections (SMDS) to my site to get to their mailboxes. (obviously I will need a bigger SPARC when they are all online). Any help would be appreciated. -Mike Stratton State of Delaware Office of Telecom Mgt. 302-739-9655 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 06:48:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29865; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:48:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23972; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:40:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23589; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:18:12 -0800 Received: from mineshaft.odi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23583; Tue, 10 Jan 95 06:18:10 -0800 Received: from odi.com (mastermind.odi.com) by mineshaft.odi.com (5.65c/SMI-4.0/ODI-5) id AA03298; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:18:09 -0500 Received: from ima.odi.com by odi.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/ODI-15) id AA19355; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:18:08 EST Received: (bsmith@localhost) by ima.odi.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA07469; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:17:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:17:57 -0500 (EST) From: "Bill R. Smith" To: pine-announce@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-announce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 10:02:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08922; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:02:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28206; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:54:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28200; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:54:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRkfC-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karel Kubat Subject: Re: advice (fwd) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 15:46:39 GMT Hi Jay, On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Jay R McVeigh wrote: > I would appreciate some assistance and advice in setting up a 486 system > with the PC Pine programme. The system now uses a uupc programe to tie into > what I believe is individual mail addresses for some doctors (10) I work > with here in Bratislava. There is no technical support for the system and > I am asked to help make the system more user friendly. The pc uses a > phone line to dial into the mail addresses at another site and is very > cumbersom and user un friendly. Windows 3.1 is being used on the pc and I > would like to install pc pine for windows and hopefully make it easier. I > have downloaded the pc pine for windows on my pc and also, mosaic and > trumpet winsock. My problem is I am unsure as how to set up pine to dial > out to the remote site and process the email. If you want to do it the "hard" but perfect way, toss Dos + Windows and go for a Unix operating system. Linux is a good choice; it should run without problems on your 486 system. You'd get yourself into some trouble by promoting to system administrator, but being "root" is somehow cool too. The way I'd set this up is: - sendmail as the recepient + delivery agent, also using deliver for local users; the uucp thing would be handled inside sendmail - regular times to dial out and retrieve mail; sendmail has lots of info on how to do this - give your 10 doctors local usernames and a telnet connection; if they won't do other stuff than read mail they should be quite happy on one Linux box. - set up Pine as the mail reader. I may be quite wrong, but I thought that Pine was a _reader_ and not a _retriever_ of mail.. -- Karel Kubat (karel@icce.rug.nl, karel@bambix.icce.rug.nl). I'd rather have a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 10:12:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09556; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:12:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01735; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:05:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01715; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:04:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRknx-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 09:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: zero-length .pine-interrupted-mail files Date: 10 Jan 1995 17:44:33 GMT Message-Id: <3euh21$12np@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> I am running Pine 3.91 on a 15,000-user AIX 3.2.5 site. Among these users, the most common problem they experience with Pine (our Help Desk says they get this question several times a day) is zero-length .pine-interrupted-mail* files in the home directory. What happens when they get these is this: Pine tells them they have postponed mail, and asks if they wish to continue. When the user answers "Yes", it either says "You don't have any interrupted mail!" and goes back to the menu/index, or it core dumps with an "abend" error. As far as I am able to tell, Pine *never* produces a non-zero-length pine-interrupted-mail* file. We had this problem with even greater frequency than is now the case, but I was able to allieviate the problem to some degree by recompiling Pine. I had originally compiled Pine without "-DDEBUG" because pine-debug files were accumulating on our system, and sometimes Pine would go out of control and continue to write to a pine-debug file until the filesystem was full. Once I restored "-DDEBUG" (setting the default debug level to 0) the .pine-interrupted-mail files were reduced, but they still occur. Can anyone suggest how we can fix this? It is extremely annoying to both our Help Desk and our users. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 10:47:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11110; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:47:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02780; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:40:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from UCS.ORST.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02772; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:40:58 -0800 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/24Sep94-1201PM) id AA17051; Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:40:57 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 10:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: Tammy Barr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reading news Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any detailed documentation available for reading news in Pine? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Tammy Barr Email: barrt@ucs.orst.edu Consultant, User Services Phone: 737-5404 University Computing Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 10:56:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11519; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:56:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29595; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:50:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29589; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:50:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRlV9-00038QC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 10:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: offsite@crl.com (Lee (not F) Bailey) Subject: Re: Highlight Problem Date: 10 Jan 1995 16:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <3eud2j$om@nntp.crl.com> References: Bill Murray (arwhead@tyrell.net) wrote: > I have dumped the control characters PINE sends to a file to examine. My > findings are that Pine sends: > Highlight on, Cursor Position, Text, Highlight off > VT100 emulation doesn't seem to mind this syntax, however, my terminal > wants to see: > Cursor Position, Highlight on, Text and Highlight off > Any ideas on how to change this. I have been through all of PINE's docs > and can't find anything, been through termcaps info on my system and > can't find anything. Try pine-setup-configure, slow_terminal=on. This will show an arrow indicator instead of doing the reverse video bit. May not be what you want, but it should work for the current message line. If your problem is the reverse video at the top and bottom of the screen then you might have to dive into your vt100 termcap on the local machine (ugly ;) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Lee Bailey | E-Mail: offsite@crl.com User of Geoworks Ensemble instead of M$ Windoze Try the demo at ftp://arginine.umdnj.edu/pub/geos/publish or ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcsnet.users/jbarr/GeoPublish From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 11:16:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12500; Tue, 10 Jan 95 11:16:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03628; Tue, 10 Jan 95 11:10:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03622; Tue, 10 Jan 95 11:10:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRloo-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 11:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: pine? lost ^c command Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 16:19:47 GMT Message-Id: References: Mike Deem (mdeem@crash.cts.com) wrote: : Can't control my cancel or arrow commands . Does anyone know What could : be the problem. My first guess is that you're using Terminal for Windows, and you've turned on "Use function, arrow and control keys for Windows". This causes all arrow, F-key control keys which might be trapped as windows commands to never be sent to the session. So, ^C is (C)opy to clipboard. And so forth. Sound plausible? Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 12:18:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15288; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:18:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01563; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:09:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01557; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:09:12 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06836; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:09:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 12:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: "Lev A. Gorenstein" Cc: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9501091902.AA18795@cv4.chem.purdue.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, Lev A. Gorenstein wrote: > Guys, > > Shame on you! I understand that you're busy because people are sending > you bullshit questions (and the amount of bullshit is much more than the > amount of gold in it). But still, what you've done is, well, let's say > "impolite", though some other words are on the tip of my tongue. I > received the AUTOMATED answer from you A WEEK (!!!) after I sent you my > bug report! If you use the program to automatically fetch the standard > text as a reply-acknoledgement of receiving a report, than it shouldn't > take A WEEK to send acknoledgement! And if I'm wrong and you read my > report, and than sent me this formal crap that "people are asking us > about IRC, talk chat, disk space..." (and there was nothing about it in > my mail)... Well, if so, than I have no words... This is not the > civilized way of treating people: first you ask "Please, send us bug > reports, we will greatly appreciate it!", and than you just pee at those > who did answer to your soliciting and send you a letter about improving > YOUR server. Damn, I expect apologees! Sorry. > Hope that I won't get the same text about "no disk space on your host", > etc. again. We do our best. > ____________________________________________ > Lev A. Gorenstein > Chemistry Department > Purdue University > W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA > (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 > lev@chem.purdue.edu Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 12:22:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15493; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:22:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04957; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:05:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04951; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:05:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06762; Tue, 10 Jan 95 12:05:50 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 12:05:48 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: "Keith M. Rainey" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Adding to addressbook In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If you have two files that are both address books, you can combine them into one larger one by concatenating the files. So you could send an address book to somebody else by sending the file (usually .addressbook) as an attachment. Then the receiver would save that into a file and "cat" it together with their existing address book or have it be a second address book. No way to send part of an address book without some hand editing outside of pine. A distribution list has the format nickname full_list_name (addr1,addr2,...) Check in your .addressbook for an example. You just need to be sure to use tabs in the appropriate places. A regular simple entry is nickname fullname address Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Keith M. Rainey wrote: > > I use a lot of lists in my addressbook and I am constantly > changing lists, and adding new lists. Is there a way to append a > text file of addresses into the .addressbook file? It would make > my life a little easier (since I'm so lazy). Also, is there a > way to send address lists to other users without them having to > type in all of the names? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. > > Keith M. Rainey > Louisiana Tech University > Biomedical Engineering > kmr@engr.latech.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 13:41:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19818; Tue, 10 Jan 95 13:41:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03755; Tue, 10 Jan 95 13:35:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03747; Tue, 10 Jan 95 13:35:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRo5u-00038KC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Why no uudecode in Pine? Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 11:40:19 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3ddfin$fem@news.halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, David Wong wrote: > > Sorry to bug in, but can a multi-parts uuencoded file be decoded > using Pine? I'm hunting for a reader that can do that. Thanks! > Yes, use ';' to select all the parts, then "a|uudecode" to decode them. Note that the parts need to be listed in order in the index before doing the decoding... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 15:23:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24416; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:23:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05915; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:03:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05909; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:03:15 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rRpbS-0003WwC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:03 EST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 17:58:52 -0800 (PST) From: Roland Zuk To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > We hate having to send the canned message. But there's no choice; we > have to get some work done, otherwise what with state budget cuts there > might not be a Pine team (not that getting work done is any guarantee > is very Politically Correct). Please keep the bouquets and testimonials > coming -- it *does* help in justifying our continued existance! Okay, you've got it Mark....OUTSTANDING! Nice work...please don't let the poo-pooers get you sidetracked. From one avid Unix Pine and Winsock Pine user, the Pine team has done an excellent job with very little resources and support. Too bad those who are quick to b!#ch don't take the time to read the canned response, lest they understand, and lack the initiative to help themselves a little. Keep up the good work. Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 15:35:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25218; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:35:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09810; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:19:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09804; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:19:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRpbX-00038RC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The Group Subject: blind carbon copies Date: 10 Jan 1995 21:21:20 GMT Message-Id: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how send blind carbon copies using Pine? Thanks, Peter Peter Miller U. of Illinois Physics Dept. peterm@uiuc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 15:41:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25512; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:41:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06445; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:25:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06439; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:25:10 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rRpwg-0003TXC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:25 EST Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 18:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: Roland Zuk To: Fred Potter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does a Pine "Viewer" Program for PC Exist? X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net In-Reply-To: <3espua$pvu@solar.sky.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jan 1995, Fred Potter wrote: > I prefer *not* to use all the graphical stuff via SLIP etc. that is Me too...and I've found what I think is the IDEAL setup with PC-Pine Winsock. It runs with the winsock so I can run my other apps at the same time, but Pine is not a full blown Windoze GUI...perfect! Text based, keyboard entry..and just like Unix Pine on my other platform! I love it. I just hate going back and forth between mouse and kbd all the time like you have to with "real" windows pgms. > available because text is faster for me at 14.4. I'm kind of a packrat > and I save all my mail. Here's what I'd like to do: download my > saved-messages and sent-mail files from my Internet provider, store them > on floppies and then view them on my PC with a small DOS program that This is excatly what I do with Pine. I fooled around with a LOT of offline mail readers and none of them can match the capabilities of Pine IMO....searching all text in a folder, etc. When I want to do some archive reading offline, I just ^C at the login prompt to bypass the server connection, then switch my modem off. Pine sqwauks a few times about not being able to open the inbox, but it runs just fine as an offline reader. Regards Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 16:09:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27759; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:09:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07187; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:54:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from red1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07181; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:54:20 -0800 Received: by red1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00217; Tue, 10 Jan 95 15:54:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 15:54:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Timothy F. Lee" X-Sender: koolkid@red1.cac.washington.edu To: The Group Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blind carbon copies In-Reply-To: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When you go to compose your mail, press Ctrl-R in the header area to expose rich headers. The rich header contains a couple extra fields, one of which is BCC:, for blind carbon copies. --tim ------------------------------------------- Timothy F. Lee (koolkid@cac.washington.edu) Lead ACC Lab Assistant, Client Services University of Washington On 10 Jan 1995, The Group wrote: > I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements > to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses > to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how > send blind carbon copies using Pine? > > Thanks, > Peter > Peter Miller > U. of Illinois Physics Dept. > peterm@uiuc.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 16:22:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28254; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:22:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07741; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:17:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07735; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:17:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRqYP-00038CC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mimecodes in header (v3.89) Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 13:51:19 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3etjr9$29d@hermod.uio.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3etjr9$29d@hermod.uio.no> Pine does not yet support RFC1522 for 8-bit characters in headers. That is planned for a future release though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Jan 1995, Kjell Andresen wrote: > Date: 10 JAN 1995 09:26:01 GMT > From: Kjell Andresen > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: mimecodes in header (v3.89) > > I know there is newer pine-versions, but before I start compiling the > newest version I wonder if this problem is solved: > > As a Norwegian I recieve a lot of mail using mime-characters. > This is OK in the body (and even the attachments/viewing) of the message, > but the header is *no* good. In this case the message origin is a mac, > which is not set up correctly to ISO-8859-1: > -------------------------- > From Steinar.Moum@usit.uio.no Tue Jan 10 10:23:20 1995 > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 08:01:36 +0100 > Subject: =?NS_4551-1?Q?R=7Cra?= er klar > > [The following text is in the "NS_4551-1" character set] > [Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set] > [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > > Fra kl 08.30 og deretter erfaringsvis ca 25 minutter, vil det v{re en > vaffelsteking (buffret med to jern) p} gang i haven i 3. etg. > > >>>>>>> Mail-programmet er: Eudora 2.1.1 <<<<<<<<<<< > --------------------------- > > Regards, Kjell > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 16:56:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29659; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:56:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08233; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:39:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08223; Tue, 10 Jan 95 16:39:40 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:38:01 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 08:38:00 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Kjell Andresen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mimecodes in header (v3.89) In-Reply-To: <3etjr9$29d@hermod.uio.no> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jan 1995, Kjell Andresen wrote: > I know there is newer pine-versions, but before I start compiling the > newest version I wonder if this problem is solved: > > As a Norwegian I recieve a lot of mail using mime-characters. > This is OK in the body (and even the attachments/viewing) of the message, > but the header is *no* good. In this case the message origin is a mac, > which is not set up correctly to ISO-8859-1: > -------------------------- > >From Steinar.Moum@usit.uio.no Tue Jan 10 10:23:20 1995 > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 08:01:36 +0100 > Subject: =?NS_4551-1?Q?R=7Cra?= er klar > > [The following text is in the "NS_4551-1" character set] > [Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set] > [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > > Fra kl 08.30 og deretter erfaringsvis ca 25 minutter, vil det v{re en > vaffelsteking (buffret med to jern) p} gang i haven i 3. etg. > The current version of pine does not support RFC 1522, which is MIME in headers RFC. I believe this is on the "to do" list...but not sure of the priority. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 17:59:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02561; Tue, 10 Jan 95 17:59:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09650; Tue, 10 Jan 95 17:43:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09640; Tue, 10 Jan 95 17:43:04 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 11 Jan 95 09:41:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:41:33 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Tammy Barr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Tammy Barr wrote: > Is there any detailed documentation available for reading news in Pine? You mean in addition to all of the extensive on-line help? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 18:37:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03545; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:37:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13837; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:22:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13824; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:22:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRsRn-00038UC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 18:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nets@netcom.com (H. Paul Hammann) Subject: Pine on Sparc Solaris 2.4? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 23:00:10 GMT I am having a difficult time getting Pine compiled for Solaris 2.4 using gcc 2.6.3. If anyone that has installed Pine on a sparc Solaris 2.4 box has any hints they'd like to pass along I'd be very grateful. If there is sufficient interest I'll summarize to this newsgroup. Thanks in advance for any help. -- Regards, H. Paul Hammann Partner Next Edition Translating Services, L.L.C. nets@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 19:36:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04982; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:36:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11041; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:21:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11035; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:21:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRtUR-00038RC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:17:42 GMT Message-Id: <3ev836$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mark Crispin justifiably said: + We hate having to send the canned message. But there's no choice; we + have to get some work done, otherwise what with state budget cuts there + might not be a Pine team (not that getting work done is any guarantee + that the axe won't fall -- they are in a sour mood in Olympia, and axing + visible efforts as a demonstration of "trimming the fat until it hurts" + is very Politically Correct). Please keep the bouquets and testimonials + coming -- it *does* help in justifying our continued existance! According to Syd, the Elm Team needs to find an oasis pretty soon, else it might .... due to excessive heat and no water. We would *hate* to see that repeat .......esp. to The Pine Team. Muchos Kudos to you Folks!! Great Job !! Keep up the good work!! We need better and better versions of Pine. We don't need some salesman plastic politeness/b.s. I/we get that enough already. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 19:47:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05298; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:47:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14869; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:32:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14863; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRtaZ-00038SC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iveysoto@vesta.unm.edu (Daniel A Ivey-Soto) Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: 11 Jan 1995 01:23:02 GMT Message-Id: <3evbtm$f4e@lynx.unm.edu> References: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In order to use the BCC feature, first type ^R while the curser is in the header of the document you wish tosend. This invokes the "Rich Header" feature. Then, in the line titled BCC, just place all the names as you normally would in the TO: line. Whenever I do this I usually place a descriptive name in the TO: line, just for effect. To do this, remember to use quotes if it is more than one word. PINE then adds your domain name at the end. When you send the message your original one will come back to you as undeliverable, since it was a dummy, though descriptive address. Hope this helps, Daniel. The Group (group@uiuc.edu) wrote: : I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements : to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses : to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how : send blind carbon copies using Pine? : Thanks, : Peter : Peter Miller : U. of Illinois Physics Dept. : peterm@uiuc.edu -- Take care, Daniel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 19:50:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05335; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:50:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11303; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11297; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRthC-00038RC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: News Collection - Empty List Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:25:08 GMT Message-Id: <3ev8h4$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Ponnusamy Rajendran with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 05:56:30 GMT: + We have Pine 3.91 running on a SunOS4.1.x system. When expanding + the News Collection folder I get + [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] + message. But when telnet to port 119 (for nntp services) on the + news server, I can see the news group listing. You probably are missing a ".newsrc" file which is what Pine looks up for newsgroup local subscription info. Bascically it is the list of all the newsgroups that you have subscribed to. Your local NewsAdmin will know. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 19:50:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05337; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:50:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14915; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:36:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14909; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:36:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRthE-00038XC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: FAQ, please Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:27:43 GMT Message-Id: <3ev8lv$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. WITTMANS@axe.humboldt.edu with this opinion in "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:00:39 GMT: Here's the URL: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 20:09:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05851; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11679; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:02:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11673; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:02:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRu7i-00038UC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 19:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Home directory Date: 11 Jan 1995 00:43:06 GMT Message-Id: <3ev9iq$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Ray McAllister with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 02:24:02 -0500 (EST): + Question 1, Please help! How can I access or see what is in my "Home + Directory"? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on either hard drive, to see + what is in it; to use it, or to delete it. Thanks a million. /u3/mcallist That is your "home directory"/"Home Directory" Here's where you will see all the files that belongs to your account. /u3/mcallist/mail will be the dir. where you will see all your mail folders. + Question 2, Where or how can I get a manual for Pine? ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs + Question 3, When I go into rz to bring a pre-existing file into + my home directory I sometimes end up with the Procom 2 screen telling me + Port in use, yet I have hung up. How can I get rid of Port in use and + continue with Procom and pine without closing everything back to C:? set port port## Aah! here you seem to know about home directory. BTW this modem question really doesn't belong to comp.mail.pine or does it? -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 20:19:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06124; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:19:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15562; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:15:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15556; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:15:27 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29362; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:15:24 -0800 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 20:15:23 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Wet-Sprocket Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News Collection - Empty List In-Reply-To: <3ev8h4$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One clarification: The .newsrc really only needs to include the newsgroups to which one is subscribed. If it is currently empty, or non-existent, one needs to use the "A Add" command to subscribe. (We know that this is far from obvious.... sorry. Also, we know that it is a pain to only be able to subscribe to one group at a time.) -teg On 11 Jan 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. Ponnusamy Rajendran with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" > group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 05:56:30 GMT: > > + We have Pine 3.91 running on a SunOS4.1.x system. When expanding > + the News Collection folder I get > > + [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] > > + message. But when telnet to port 119 (for nntp services) on the > + news server, I can see the news group listing. > > You probably are missing a ".newsrc" file which is what Pine looks up for > newsgroup local subscription info. Bascically it is the list of all the > newsgroups that you have subscribed to. Your local NewsAdmin will know. > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ > o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` > ======================================================================== > Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! > Mac*CHAT List Moderator. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 21:10:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07426; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:10:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16386; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:06:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16380; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:06:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRv8Z-00038dC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 20:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Adding to addressbook answered (and a ?? of my own) Date: 11 Jan 1995 01:10:58 GMT Message-Id: <3evb72$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Frank Yao with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 09:55:54 GMT: + In article , + Keith M. Rainey wrote: + > I use a lot of lists in my addressbook and I am constantly + >changing lists, and adding new lists. Is there a way to append a + >text file of addresses into the .addressbook file? It would make + >my life a little easier (since I'm so lazy). Also, is there a + >way to send address lists to other users without them having to + >type in all of the names? + I would think doing something like: cat text.file >> .addressbook See I'm not sure that's gonna work as .addressbook is kinda uniquely formatted. I haven't tried this but if you have a file which is tab separated in this way first column: nickname second column: Full Name third column: complete e-mail address and each column separated by a tab and then if you cat that file to .addressbook it might work. Before you try this make sure you make a backup copy of your .addressbook and .addressbook.lu files. In Pine 3.91 which was what you are using, you can import a list of addressess into a new/existing addressbook list. Great Job, kudos to Pine Team!! And to your second question just send your .addressbook file to whoever you want it to be sent. Ofcourse I wouldn't include personal address nicknames in that case. + In the index screen, we get a flag (N,D,A etc), the sender, the size + and the subject. What exactly is that size indicating, and is there a + way to change it to reflect the number of LINES in the mail message? The SIZE of each indivual mail in bytes. Number of lines? If you find out..post it. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 21:27:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08124; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:27:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16716; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:22:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16710; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:22:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRvEw-00038gC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: 11 Jan 1995 01:29:26 GMT Message-Id: <3evc9m$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr/Mz. The Group with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 10 Jan 1995 21:21:20 GMT: + I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements + to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses + to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how + send blind carbon copies using Pine? Place your cursor at the To: header region and hit Control-R for Rich-Headers. You will see a Bcc: header, just fill in here the entire list but be told that there's a limit to how many addressess you can have per header (think itz < 50) -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 21:36:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08293; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:36:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13047; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:22:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13041; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:22:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rRvEv-00038XC; Tue, 10 Jan 95 21:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: pine? lost ^c command Date: 11 Jan 1995 01:22:05 GMT Message-Id: <3evbrt$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Comes here Mr. Mike Deem with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 10 Jan 1995 03:30:49 GMT: + Can't control my cancel or arrow commands . Does anyone know What could + be the problem. If ^C doesn't work, try using this key combination: esc esc c (twice hit the escape key and then hit the c key) -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! Mac*CHAT List Moderator. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 10 23:41:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10973; Tue, 10 Jan 95 23:41:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18556; Tue, 10 Jan 95 23:34:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cas.crc.edu.ph by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18550; Tue, 10 Jan 95 23:34:42 -0800 Received: from NOVELL_SERVER/TEMPQ by othello.crc.edu.ph (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:22:17 +0800 Received: from TEMPQ by NOVELL_SERVER (Mercury 1.12); Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:21:58 +0800 From: "Rafael G. Portillo" Organization: CRC College of Arts and Sciences To: Steve Hubert Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:21:55 +0800 Subject: Re: Bugggggggy pinedemo at demo.cac.washington.edu Cc: Pine Information List X-Confirm-Reading-To: "Rafael G. Portillo" X-Pmrqc: 1 Priority: normal X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.22 Message-Id: <4018C2ED0@othello.crc.edu.ph> > On Mon, 9 Jan 1995, Lev A. Gorenstein wrote: > > > Guys, > > > > Shame on you! I understand that you're busy because people are sending > > you bullshit questions (and the amount of bullshit is much more than the > > amount of gold in it). But still, what you've done is, well, let's say > > "impolite", though some other words are on the tip of my tongue. I > > received the AUTOMATED answer from you A WEEK (!!!) after I sent you my (more stuff along the same line...) > > ____________________________________________ > > Lev A. Gorenstein > > Chemistry Department > > Purdue University > > W.Lafayette, IN 47907, USA > > (317)494-5289; Fax (317)494-0239 > > lev@chem.purdue.edu > I get the impression that YOU are the one being impolite (no other words in the tip of my tongue). If a simple bug report makes you react that way, you may consider taking a vacation, or getting some professional help. My experience when I reported a bug to cac was very positive. Happy 1995... Rafa--------------------------------------------------------------------- Rafael (Rafa) G. Portillo CRC College of Arts and Sciences rafa@cas.crc.edu.ph Pasig, Metro Manila rafa@othello.crc.edu.ph Philippines From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 00:52:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12619; Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:52:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15710; Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:43:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15704; Wed, 11 Jan 95 00:43:55 -0800 Via: uk.ac.durham; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 08:43:35 +0000 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by durham.ac.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:43:25 GMT Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:43:11 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 08:43:06 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Tammy Barr Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 7474 Tammy Barr writes: > Is there any detailed documentation available for reading news in Pine? Last October, I produced a document for the transition from 3.89 to 3.90. Part of it referred to accessing Usenet News from Pine. The details are given below (and are equally applicable to Pine 3.91). Note: the text of Section 13 refers to Sections 6 and 12 which are given later in this message. : 13. Accessing Usenet News from Pine : : In previous versions of Pine, you were able to read the newsgroups of : Usenet News. In Pine 3.90, there are additional facilities, e.g., you : can subscribe/unsubscribe to newsgroups and post articles to : newsgroups. : : In order to access Usenet News, you should go to the Config Screen (see : Section 6), move the cursor down to the line starting "nntp-server =", : press A (for Add Text) and then type the address of an nntpserver: : newsserver.site.domain : Note that it is not necessary to set the news-collections variable. : Although optional, I believe it is also useful to include both : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm and expanded-view-of-folders in : the setting of the feature-list variable. To do this, move down to : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm and press X; and then move down : to expanded-view-of-folders and press X. : : You will now need to leave Pine, and re-start it. If you then press L : to get the folder-list you will see a section headed News-collection. : If you move to this section, you can press A followed by the name of a : newsgroup in order to subscribe to that newsgroup. If you are : uncertain about the name, then follow the A by Ctrl-T in order to list : the names of all the newsgroups. If you press W at this point, you : can find out those newsgroups whose names contain a particular string. : : The information about which newsgroups you are subscribed to is : written to the file .newsrc. If you don't want your subscribed : newsgroups to be displayed in alphabetical order, you may set the : news-read-in-newsrc-order feature. To do this, go to the Config Screen : (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line containing : news-read-in-newsrc-order and press X. You also need to edit your : .newsrc file so that the lines appear in the order that you wish to : look at the newsgroups. : : Once you have subscribed to the newsgroups which you think you may be : interested, you can use them just like mail folders. : : When you have read an article, you can use the D command to record the : fact that you have already seen it. This information is also stored : in the .newsrc file. In this way, the article will not be presented : to you the next time you read Usenet News. : : If you already have the folder for a newsgroup open, you can use the C : command to post an article to the newsgroup. If you want to follow-up : an existing article, or you want to reply to the sender of an article, : use the R command. : : Some newsreaders provide "threading", a facility where all the : articles of a newsgroup which have the same subject are grouped : together. You can arrange for Pine to present the articles of a : folder index sorted into threads by pressing $ followed by o whilst : you are in the folder index. This only has an effect on the folder : index: it does not actually alter the folder. : : Although Pine does not have a command to "catch up" in a newsgroup : (that is, to mark all the articles as deleted), you can use Pine's new : aggregate command set (see Section 12) to do this. Pressing the four : keys ;aad will cause all the articles in the current folder to be : marked as deleted. So these articles will not be shown the next time : you enter the newsgroup. The above text refers to Sections 6 and 12 which are reproduced below: : 6. Configuring Pine using the "Config Screen" : : In previous versions of Pine, you had to alter the .pinerc file if you : wanted to configure Pine. In Pine 3.90, you can configure Pine by : going to the Setup Configuration Screen (which is called the "Config : Screen" in this document). To find this screen, go to the Main Menu, : press S followed by C. : : You can use the Config Screen to change the settings of some of Pine's : variables. If you are uncertain as to the purpose of a variable (or a : value), move the cursor so that the appropriate line of the Config : Screen is highlighted, and press ? (for Help). Any changes that you : make to the Config Screen will eventually be written to your .pinerc : file. For many changes, the change that you want will be effected : immediately: however, for other changes you will need to leave Pine : and then re-start it. : : 12. Using aggregate commands : : The A, Z and ; commands form the "aggregate command set". The ; : command allows you to select all the messages that match some : criteria; the A command allows to apply some command to each of the : selected messages; and the Z command allows you to zoom in on the : selected messages by changing the folder index temporarily so that : only these messages are displayed. In order to use any of these : commands, you need to have enable-aggregate-command-set included in : the setting of the feature-list variable. To do this, go to the : Config Screen (see Section 6) and then move the cursor down to the line : containing enable-aggregate-command-set and press X. : : Here are some more details about the aggregate commands. : : The ; command selects messages in the folder index according to a : criterion that you choose. It can be one of the following: (a) all : messages, (b) a list or a range of message numbers, (c) messages : containing a particular string within the From, To, Cc or Subject : lines or within the entire text of the message, (d) the current : message, (e) messages on/before/since a specified date, (f) messages : that have a status flag of new/deleted/answered/important. : : Having chosen the criterion, the selected messages are indicated in : the folder index by a X in the first column (unless the : show-selected-in-boldface feature has been chosen). There is another : way in which you can show which messages have been selected: if you : issue a Z command after a ; command it will temporarily restrict the : folder index to the selected messages --- pressing Z again returns you : to the full folder index. : : If you have already used a ; command (to select a set of messages), : then, if you type ; command again, Pine will ask you whether you want : to (i) unselect all the selected messages, (ii) unselect the current : message, (iii) add more messages to the set of selected messages, (iv) : remove some messages from the set of selected messages. If you choose : (iii) or (iv), then you can indicate the criterion by which messages : are added to, or removed from, the current selection. Once again, the : criterion can be any of those labelled (a) to (f) above. : : Having selected a set of messages, you can use the A command to apply : any of the following operations to the set of selected messages: save, : export, print, delete, undelete, reply, forward, takeaddr, flag or : pipe. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 01:48:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14397; Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:48:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20436; Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:41:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20430; Wed, 11 Jan 95 01:41:05 -0800 Received: from unix.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <27058-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:31:44 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI) id JAA10963; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:41:04 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:41:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Trey Harris Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: zero-length .pine-interrupted-mail files In-Reply-To: <3euh21$12np@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Strange... I had to deal with exactly the same problem only yesterday. Traced it eventually to the empty interrupted mail file (Pine was aborting with a bug detected). There's also a weakness in the Bezerk mailbox handling if (for whatever reason) the last message in the file has the separating "From blah" line but no further lines afterward. We had a few of these appear when our mail delivery system threw a wobbler; Pine just aborts with a bug detected. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 On 10 Jan 1995, Trey Harris wrote: > I am running Pine 3.91 on a 15,000-user AIX 3.2.5 site. Among these > users, the most common problem they experience with Pine (our Help Desk > says they get this question several times a day) is zero-length > .pine-interrupted-mail* files in the home directory. > > What happens when they get these is this: Pine tells them they have > postponed mail, and asks if they wish to continue. When the user answers > "Yes", it either says "You don't have any interrupted mail!" and goes > back to the menu/index, or it core dumps with an "abend" error. > > As far as I am able to tell, Pine *never* produces a non-zero-length > pine-interrupted-mail* file. > > We had this problem with even greater frequency than is now the case, but > I was able to allieviate the problem to some degree by recompiling Pine. > I had originally compiled Pine without "-DDEBUG" because pine-debug files > were accumulating on our system, and sometimes Pine would go out of > control and continue to write to a pine-debug file until the filesystem > was full. > > Once I restored "-DDEBUG" (setting the default debug level to 0) the > .pine-interrupted-mail files were reduced, but they still occur. > > Can anyone suggest how we can fix this? It is extremely annoying to both > our Help Desk and our users. > -- > Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris > System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology > The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 04:12:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18369; Wed, 11 Jan 95 04:12:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18188; Wed, 11 Jan 95 04:01:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cheviot.ncl.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18172; Wed, 11 Jan 95 04:01:39 -0800 Received: from monera.newcastle.ac.uk by cheviot.ncl.ac.uk id (8.6.9/ for ncl.ac.uk) with SMTP; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:01:14 GMT Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:01:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Alan Ward To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: You get what you pay for Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 'Apologies ...', instant response etc I agree - you can *hope* to get what you pay for (you shouldn't *expect* to get what you don't pay for, though you might) but I also think you could never have got Pine just by paying for it Many thanks to UoW, because they *have* paid for it - but they've got more than they paid for. Many thanks to all the active Pine community, (as well as the Pine team) who contribute, try things out, supply work-arounds, answer questions ... -- Email: Alan.Ward@ncl.ac.uk Alan Ward FAX: +44 (0) 91 222 7736 Department of Microbiology Tel: +44 (0) 91 222 7709 University of Newcastle upon Tyne On 10 Jan 1995, Ralph Sims wrote: > lev@cv4.chem.purdue.edu (Lev A. Gorenstein) writes: > ..... irrelevant stuff ..... > >YOUR server. Damn, I expect apologees! > > One might quip "You get what you pay for." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 06:39:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22917; Wed, 11 Jan 95 06:39:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24457; Wed, 11 Jan 95 06:30:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24451; Wed, 11 Jan 95 06:30:03 -0800 Received: from [3.12.38.33] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA06180; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:29:51 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA09375; Wed, 11 Jan 95 09:28:21 EST Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:28:20 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Information List Subject: Pine features In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings and HELP. The PINE folks suggested that I post my questions to the List, so here goes. I am trying to identify an e-mail program that will serve the majority of 2100 people at our facility. The people in the facility currently use MicroSoft Mail (Mac and PC), PROFS, Unix Mail, Elm, and (a few smart ones) PINE. Our local computer resources include Sun and VAX VMS servers, all tied together on a high-speed LAN. In addition, there are a number of individuals who log in locally or remotely via a low-speed LAN through a bridge to the high speed LAN and/or to the IBM PROFS gateway. I have been using PINE since discovering it in August. (I needed a program that would handle MIME encoded messages.) I am very pleased with the program, and I am trying to promote it here. While we would like all users to have a single system address for their mail drop, we anticipate that they will want to forward their mail to their local Sun server or MS Mail inbox. We recognize that the Sun servers we have bog down with more than 15-20 concurrent logins, so we are setting up a pair of VAX systems as a common e-mail server. 1) Does anyone have any information on portability of PINE to VAX VMS? (It was not listed with successful ports in the August pine-ports file, and there was no indication whether it had been tried unsuccessfully? 2) Has anyone tried to incorporate message acknowledgement functionality into PINE? That is if a message is sent registered by Pine, a Pine program on the receiving end would send an registered receipt to the originator when the message was read. We have a program on the AT&T that embeds a code of the form "[R(nnnn)]" in the subject of a registered message. When the program receives a message with this code, it sends a registered receipt under the recipient's login indicating message nnnn was read with the subject, time, and date. See below: Receipt Header: From To: Subject: Registered Mail Receipt [A(nnnn)] Status: RO Receipt message: Your registerd mail message has been reeived and read: RECIPIENT: DATE: SUBJECT: 3) Has anyone tried to incorporate a uuencode recognition/filter into PINE? We correspond with users of MicroSoft Mail and CC:MAIL, and would like to be able to choose between MIME and uuencode on send and to have PINE recognize both forms on receipt. Thanks in advance for any help/info you can provide. Don Don Sugarman, Senior Project Engineer Martin Marietta Defense Systems Pittsfield, MA sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 07:55:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25462; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:55:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25896; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:46:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25890; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:46:24 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (knute@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id HAA01021 for ; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 07:46:23 -0800 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 07:46:24 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: The Group Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blind carbon copies In-Reply-To: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jan 1995, The Group wrote: > I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements > to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses > to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how > send blind carbon copies using Pine? > > Thanks, > Peter > Peter Miller > U. of Illinois Physics Dept. > peterm@uiuc.edu > > I wanted to do the same thing, but if I'm understanding you correctly, it can't be done with blind cc's. What I think you want to do is send mail to a long list of people, but have only that person's name show on the To: line. As far as I know, this can't be done without a mailing robot. The only thing that's blind about a Bcc: is that the people in the To: address can't see the addresses of the people in Bcc:, but the people in Bcc: can see everything. ---Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS, Inc. or knute@teleport.com CompuServe: 72144,1646 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 08:02:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25804; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:02:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26011; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26005; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:53:28 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA05345; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:54:56 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:54:55 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Compiling PINE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All -- I've just compiled PINE 3.91 under OSF on my DEC Alpha 3300. I have a second Alpha 3300, but it does not have the same software setup and the first, and I cannot compile PINE on this system; it bombs out. When we were running PINE 3.90 I had successfully FTP'd pine over to my second Alpha system, and it ran just fine. (Acutally, I FTP'd pine, pico, imapd, and mtest over to the /usr/bin directory) I just tried to FTP PINE 3.91 over to my second Alpha, (in the same directory) and I can't get it to run. The error is pine: cannot execute What parts of PINE 3.91 need to be present (and where) in order for it to execute? Thanks Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 08:04:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25893; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:04:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25993; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:51:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25985; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:51:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rS5AT-00038KC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Burge Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: Tue, 10 Jan 1995 21:48:59 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 10 Jan 1995, The Group wrote: > I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements > to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses > to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how > send blind carbon copies using Pine? Go up to the header and get "rich header" -- ctrl-r on 3.91. Send it to yourself, and Bcc it to the rest. Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 08:06:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26004; Wed, 11 Jan 95 08:06:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22152; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:59:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22146; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:59:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rS5Hi-00038YC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 07:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Does a Pine "Viewer" Program for PC Exist? Message-Id: References: <3espua$pvu@solar.sky.net> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 07:22:27 GMT Yes Fred... there is a Santa Claus... :) and it's called "readmail".... is an offline reader..*not* an offline mailer.... but I think it will serve your purpose... you can find it at the simtel mirror at oak.oakland.edu (if you have lynx... try http://www.oak.oakland.edu ) (if not, you can ftp to oak.oakland.edu ) Pucho (another packrat) Fred Potter (fpotter@solar.sky.net) decia: : Hi folks. This may sound goofy but here goes. : I prefer *not* to use all the graphical stuff via SLIP etc. that is : available because text is faster for me at 14.4. I'm kind of a packrat : and I save all my mail. Here's what I'd like to do: download my : saved-messages and sent-mail files from my Internet provider, store them : on floppies and then view them on my PC with a small DOS program that : looks like the Pine interface. That way I could view the "directory" of : messages by subject line and date as though I was online. It would keep : my workspace cleaned out, which would make my sysop happy. The : alternative is scrolling through the entire file with a text editor or : something. : Is there such a program for DOS? : Thanks, : Fred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 10:06:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02592; Wed, 11 Jan 95 10:06:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29224; Wed, 11 Jan 95 09:57:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29216; Wed, 11 Jan 95 09:57:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0rS76h-00038KC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 09:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: alt editor not use TEMP: Bug or feature? Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 17:27:49 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of my (new) user of PC-PINE is complaining at the following. When calling the editor, Pine (appears) to specify a file name in the root directory. This means that if the editor makes backups of files as they are being made (eg on a time basis) they pile up in root. In addition, should a reboot occur (even when using Pico), broken bits are left also in root. He states, and I think that I agree with him, that the Dos TEMP variable should be used (if present) to indicate a suitable temporary directory. In some circumstances, Pine uses TMP, but not in this one. Do others agree that this is a bug? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 11:15:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05867; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:15:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01072; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:07:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01066; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:07:08 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA05621; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:08:36 +0100 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:08:36 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Re: Compiling PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Jeff Moore wrote: > On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > > > Hello All -- > > > > I've just compiled PINE 3.91 under OSF on my DEC Alpha 3300. > > > > I have a second Alpha 3300, but it does not have the same software setup > > and the first, and I cannot compile PINE on this system; it bombs out. > > > > When we were running PINE 3.90 I had successfully FTP'd pine over to my > > second Alpha system, and it ran just fine. (Acutally, I FTP'd pine, > > pico, imapd, and mtest over to the /usr/bin directory) I just tried to > > FTP PINE 3.91 over to my second Alpha, (in the same directory) and I can't > > get it to run. The error is pine: cannot execute > > > > What parts of PINE 3.91 need to be present (and where) in order for it to > > execute? > > > > Thanks > > Mary Aplin > > Loyola University, New Orleans > > > I don't know about v3.91 but v3.90 is totally self-contained. I'm > running it on a DEC 3000-300. This may sound stupid, but have you set > the program to be executable using the chmod command? I know that I had > to do that in order for it to run on my system. > > That did the trick!!! Thanks Jeff!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 11:32:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06429; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:32:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27289; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:21:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27283; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:21:48 -0800 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HLPUUM3J468ZE4OD@INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:03:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:03:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pine features In-Reply-To: To: Don Sugarman Cc: Pine Information List Reply-To: Portia Shao Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > Greetings and HELP. > > The PINE folks suggested that I post my questions to the List, so here goes. > > I am trying to identify an e-mail program that will serve the > majority of 2100 people at our facility. The people in the facility > currently use MicroSoft Mail (Mac and PC), PROFS, Unix Mail, Elm, and (a > few smart ones) PINE. Our local computer resources include Sun and VAX > VMS servers, all tied together on a high-speed LAN. In addition, there > are a number of individuals who log in locally or remotely via a > low-speed LAN through a bridge to the high speed LAN and/or to the IBM PROFS > gateway. > > I have been using PINE since discovering it in August. (I needed a > program that would handle MIME encoded messages.) I am very pleased with > the program, and I am trying to promote it here. > > While we would like all users to have a single system address for their > mail drop, we anticipate that they will want to forward their mail to > their local Sun server or MS Mail inbox. We recognize that the Sun > servers we have bog down with more than 15-20 concurrent logins, so we > are setting up a pair of VAX systems as a common e-mail server. > > 1) Does anyone have any information on portability of PINE to VAX VMS? (It > was not listed with successful ports in the August pine-ports file, and > there was no indication whether it had been tried unsuccessfully? There are two ports to VMS, one is available as part of the PMDF software we do (at least some other parts of your company are PMDF customers), for more information, send mail to sales@innosoft.com ($ related questions), or service@innosoft.com (for tech questions). another is free (ported by yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il), and available for ftp in the US (see below) ---- Subject: repost: Pine/VMS FTP site in US Since there has been a bit of traffic about it recently, I figured I'd let people know again that VMS-Pine v3.91 is available for anonymous ftp from lenin.cc.rochester.edu. Extracting it requires a recent version of UNZIP, and you MUST remember to transfer it as a binary. This version provides improved TCPIP support, but I've found that 3.89 seems to work better under my installation of VMS (5.4-2). (I'm not using TCPIP support, since I only use it for local mail and I need to talk to PMDF anyway.) BTW: Congratulations to the development team; it's a great program. Tom -- | Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | | tgpt_ltd@UORDBV | | Temporary LARVA-ED resident | > > 2) Has anyone tried to incorporate message acknowledgement functionality into > PINE? That is if a message is sent registered by Pine, a Pine program on > the receiving end would send an registered receipt to the originator when > the message was read. We have a program on the AT&T that embeds a code of > the form "[R(nnnn)]" in the subject of a registered message. When the > program receives a message with this code, it sends a registered receipt > under the recipient's login indicating message nnnn was read with the > subject, time, and date. See below: no, on VMS Pine uses your VMS MAIL files, a read-receipt (or any other receipt) is not supported by VMS MAIL. However, if PMDF is used to deliver mail to VMS MAIL mailbox, and the sender requested read or delivery receipt, then PMDF turns it into a delivery receipt (because it has control at that time) and sends an acknowledgement. Personally I think read receipt is an invasion of privacy and would never use any software which does not offer me a way to turn it off and on at my discretion. None of the PMDF Pine users have asked for read receipt capability so far. > > Receipt Header: > > From > To: > Subject: Registered Mail Receipt [A(nnnn)] > Status: RO > > Receipt message: > > Your registerd mail message has been reeived and read: > > RECIPIENT: > DATE: > SUBJECT: > > 3) Has anyone tried to incorporate a uuencode recognition/filter into > PINE? We correspond with users of MicroSoft Mail and CC:MAIL, and would > like to be able to choose between MIME and uuencode on send and to have > PINE recognize both forms on receipt. Pine recognizes BASE64, and if you were getting the mail via PMDF's Microsoft Mail and cc:Mail support (PMDF-LAN product), it has the capability of turning their messages format into MIME, and thus the result would be recognized by Pine. For example, if I send you a message from cc:Mail or Microsoft Mail with an attachment, when you get it in Pine on VMS or Unix or elsewhere, you will get the attachment BASE64 encoded, and would be able to extract it. > > Thanks in advance for any help/info you can provide. > > Don > > Don Sugarman, Senior Project Engineer > Martin Marietta Defense Systems > Pittsfield, MA > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 11:43:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06754; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:43:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27493; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:32:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27487; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:32:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS8eg-00038JC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jason@IS.NET (Jason R. Mastaler) Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: 11 Jan 1995 03:45:49 GMT Message-Id: References: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In-Reply-To: The Group's message of 10 Jan 1995 21:21:20 GMT In article <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> The Group writes: > > I'm trying to use Pine to send out announcements > to a long list of people, but I don't want the addresses > to show up in everyone's mailbox. Does anyone know how > send blind carbon copies using Pine? > Yes. When in COMPOSE mode, use ^R (Rich Hdr) to bring up a few more mail sending options. One such options is Bcc: (blind carbon-copy). Cheers, Jason From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 12:24:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08829; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:24:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02655; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:10:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02649; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:10:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS9Hm-00038CC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Incorrect behaviour of F12 in Index window Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 15:56:36 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII One of my users has pointed out to me the following bug. He is using WinPine 3.91, and has function key mode set. When looking at a folder index, he wanted to Forward a message, which is called by F12; instead of forwarding the message, it generates a Reply. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 12:43:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09637; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:43:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03193; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:35:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03187; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS9em-00038JC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bravo@ie.technion.ac.il (Bravo_Israel) Subject: Addressbook and recipients list Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 13:30:41 GMT Message-Id: Hi, I'd like to make a distribution list in the address book of Pine and send a message to some users, but I don't want to let the recipients to see all the "To:" list. I'd like to make that each recipient will see only his address, not all list. Does anyone use this, and how? Please, help. Thank you, #### (0^^0) +------------------ooooO---(__)---Ooooo-----------------+ | Bravo Israel | | Systems staff E-mail: bravo@ie.technion.ac.il | | Faculty of Industrial Engineering, phone 04-294428 | | Technion, 32000 Haifa, Israel | +-------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 12:49:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09816; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:49:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28985; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:35:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28979; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:35:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS9dI-00038CC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: J.S.Peatfield@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Jon Peatfield) Subject: problem when tmp directory is full Date: 11 Jan 1995 13:40:38 GMT Message-Id: We have Pine 3.91 running on a variety of machines. Recently we noticed that on some of them at least when the tmp directory that pine stores messages in when sending to sendmail gets full the messages get lost and the user isn't warned. We can't test all the machines at this time as e.g. all our Suns use tmpfs so filling tmp would be a problem for other reasons, but at least on SGIs this appears to be repeatable just by filling up /usr/tmp. Looking at the code in osdep/sendmail it looks like an error from pine_rfc822_output() will result in a warning for the user: > q_status_message2(1, 2, 4, "\007Error \"%s\" writing \"%s\"", > error_description(save_errno), pretty_fn(filename)); but I see no such message. Looking deaper into pine_rfc822_output() I can see that the error chain looks ok 'til I get lost inside pine_rfc822_output_body() where I can't tell what is happening. Does anyone else see this or is it a symptom of a problem with our setup? Does someone who understands the pine source better than me know what is going on here? -- Jon Peatfield (postmaster@damtp.cam.ac.uk) -- Jon Peatfield, Computer Officer, the DAMTP, University of Cambridge Telephone: (+44 223) 3-37852 Mail: J.S.Peatfield@damtp.cam.ac.uk NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 12:58:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10190; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:58:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29326; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:47:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29320; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:47:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS9nW-00038CC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 12:49:49 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3eutog$9sb@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <3evbtm$f4e@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3evbtm$f4e@lynx.unm.edu> On 11 Jan 1995, Daniel A Ivey-Soto wrote: > "Rich Header". Then, in the line titled BCC, just place all the names > as you normally would in the TO: line. Then if the recpients wish to reply, will they get the message "reply to all recipients?" allowing them to send their responses to everyone? @ @ Thanks @ @ @ @ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @ \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 13:20:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11505; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:20:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04318; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:08:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04312; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:08:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rS9x7-00038xC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: PGP mail with pine Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 07:39:03 -0600 References: <3epb7q$o0v@solaris.cc.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <3epb7q$o0v@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 Jan 1995, matthew c. mead wrote: Date: 8 JAN 1995 18:34:34 GMT From: matthew c. mead Newgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: PGP mail with pine I've been using perl scripts for PGP mail in elm for a while, and I've been told by a friend of mine that pine has PGP support built it. Is this true? Not yet. If not, what mechanism is used to achieve the encryption and decryption? Also, where can I find it ... thanks for any help! mkpgp is a c-shell script which serves as a liaison for the Pine mailer/newsreader and pgp. It features: external editor of your choice, external spell checker of your choice, encryption (with or without signing), signing (with or without encryption), encrypted attachments selected via browser, effortless public key additions from e-mail, decryption & signature verification, effortless encrypted attachment extraction, quote characters of your choice, and more... To get mkpgp, send blank e-mail to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp A signed, ascii-armored message should show up in you mailbox within the hour. Process the message with "pgp -p" to produce mkpgp.txt.uu. mkpgp.txt.uu contains the readme atop a uuencode of mkpgp. (You can add my keys with finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force before you process the message if you want to check the signature.) To receive updates, send blank e-mail to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: addtomkpgplist mkpgp will show up each time the modification date changes. - -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLxOLBuBu0383Om6dAQF35AP+Mfuy7jolQ8Kk9sGhCvvX6fpK8qv4HpNv rn+vLjxrPusdnC8+IUwHhq/CWCzGOpKr5cqMmSdSSB8ACK1b4UfqsyOc3BG4HUY+ 4oOgB95HDyhsmJ71ZulU9EaPs8PxY7B5cXsGXeBsQJqPv0Ee+Y1/TsXl7T/zYQTI zryh24oHiKA= =41qm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc prudence dictates a low profile -- Sandy Sandfort finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f | tee mkpgp.txt.uu | more From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 13:22:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11599; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:22:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00135; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:08:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00128; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:08:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSA0R-00038yC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 12:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: J.S.Peatfield@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Jon Peatfield) Subject: Re: problem when tmp directory is full Date: 11 Jan 1995 16:41:45 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: J.S.Peatfield@amtp.cam.ac.uk's message of 11 Jan 1995 13:40:38 GMT Much as I hate following up to my own items here is some more info. After discovering the TMPDIR variable, I filled up a filesystem and pointed TMPDIR at it from a Sun4 (sos4) and got the same behavour as on the SGI. The relevant bit of the debug log (-d99) is: > Sending mail... > q_status_message, Count 2, "Sending mail....." > output_message(Sending mail.....) > call_mailer: handing off > === calling sendmail === > -- pine_rfc822_output > -- pine_encode_body: 0 > -- pine_rfc822_output_body: 0 > -- pine_rfc822_output_body: segment 0 bytes > -- gf_reset local_nvtnl > -- gf_pipe: done. > Send command "( ( /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t ; /bin/rm -f /home/fenris/jp107//pinesend001683 ) < /home/fenris/jp107//pinesend001683 & )" > PID: 1701, COMMAND: ( ( /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t ; /bin/rm -f /home/fenris/jp107//pinesend001683 ) < /home/fenris/jp107//pinesend001683 & ) > Send SUCCESSFUL. > To: jp107@cus > Subject: This is a stupid test > Message ID: > > Writing Fcc > q_status_message, Count 1, "Writing Fcc..." > output_message(Writing Fcc...) The directory /home/fenris/jp107/ had no space left yet I got no error and the message wasn't sent. (In fact sendmail sent a null message which then bounced to postmaster but this isn't helpful.) Does this give any clues as to the problem? -- Jon Peatfield (postmaster@damtp.cam.ac.uk) -- Jon Peatfield, Computer Officer, the DAMTP, University of Cambridge Telephone: (+44 223) 3-37852 Mail: J.S.Peatfield@damtp.cam.ac.uk NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg NAg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 13:39:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12364; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:39:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04935; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:35:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04929; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:35:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSAbS-00038CC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 13:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Compiling PINE Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 11:12:15 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Did you make the pine, pico, imapd, and mtest files executable after ftping them? (e.g. chmod +x pine) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 11 Jan 1995, Mary Aplin wrote: > Date: Wed, 11 JAN 1995 08:54:55 GMT > From: Mary Aplin > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Compiling PINE > > Hello All -- > > I've just compiled PINE 3.91 under OSF on my DEC Alpha 3300. > > I have a second Alpha 3300, but it does not have the same software setup > and the first, and I cannot compile PINE on this system; it bombs out. > > When we were running PINE 3.90 I had successfully FTP'd pine over to my > second Alpha system, and it ran just fine. (Acutally, I FTP'd pine, > pico, imapd, and mtest over to the /usr/bin directory) I just tried to > FTP PINE 3.91 over to my second Alpha, (in the same directory) and I can't > get it to run. The error is pine: cannot execute > > What parts of PINE 3.91 need to be present (and where) in order for it to > execute? > > Thanks > Mary Aplin > Loyola University, New Orleans > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 14:34:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15021; Wed, 11 Jan 95 14:34:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02009; Wed, 11 Jan 95 14:25:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02001; Wed, 11 Jan 95 14:25:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSBK7-00038KC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 14:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: blind carbon copies Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:39:25 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3evc9m$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3evc9m$kah@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> On 11 Jan 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 11 JAN 1995 01:29:26 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: blind carbon copies > > You will see a Bcc: header, just fill in here the entire list but be told that > there's a limit to how many addressess you can have per header (think itz < 50) > Any such limit is coming from your mail transport (e.g. sendmail), not from Pine. Pine does not impose any limits on numbers of addresses... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 15:27:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17740; Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:27:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07364; Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:20:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07358; Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:20:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSCCX-00038JC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmead@goof.com (matthew c. mead) Subject: External Pagers Date: 11 Jan 1995 20:12:13 GMT Message-Id: <3f1e2t$ovp@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Well, I've built pine now, and got a nice pgp system going with it (which works well with elm, as well, btw). The only problem is reading encrypted messages. I don't like that you have to reply to them to decrypt and read them. In elm, I have a script which will test to see if input is encrypted, and decrypt it prior to viewing if it is. I'd like to fully switch to pine, but the lack of support for external pagers is the only thing holding me back. Does anyone know of a hack anywhere that adds this support? Otherwise it's off to the pine source code with an axe I go... :-) Thanks in advance! -matt -- Matthew C. Mead -- System/Network Administration, User Support, Software Devel. Virginia Tech Center for Transportation Research Work Related: mmead@ctr.vt.edu | All Other: mmead@goof.com WWW: http://www.goof.com:/~mmead From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 17:31:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24943; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:31:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07078; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:20:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07072; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:20:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSE6R-00038JC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crane Subject: Re: Addressbook and recipients list Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 09:43:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: As I understand it, in order to not let recipients of carbon copies *know* that they are recipients of carbon copies, you have to hit ctrl-r while in compose mode, thus enabling the "rich header", which includes the "BCC:" option, for "Blind Carbon Copy." Let me know how lists work in the address book. I haven't figured it out. Mark Crane psu01055@odin.cc.pdx.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 17:41:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25400; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:41:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07461; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:37:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07455; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:36:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSEG7-00038KC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Environment variable for pine.conf? Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:35:48 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There is no environment variable per-se, but there is a command line option, -P, that specifies an alternate pine.conf file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 6 Jan 1995, Tim Bloomfield wrote: > Date: Fri, 6 JAN 1995 19:11:59 GMT > From: Tim Bloomfield > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Environment variable for pine.conf? > > Sorry about the previous message. Tin crashed When I resized a window while > editing. > > Is there an environment variable that can be set to point to the location of > pine.conf? The man page does not mention one. Thanks > > > ------------------------------------------------- > Tim Bloomfield (tim@srcl.sunnybrook.utoronto.ca) > Sunnybrook Health Science Ctr. > North York, Ontario. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 17:41:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25401; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:41:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07491; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07479; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:37:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #26) id m0rSEKc-00038PC; Wed, 11 Jan 95 17:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Turning Off Insert Mode In Pine Date: Wed, 11 Jan 1995 14:40:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No, there is not currently an overwrite mode in the composer. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 7 Jan 1995, martin schildkret wrote: > Date: Sat, 7 JAN 1995 00:47:03 GMT > From: martin schildkret > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Turning Off Insert Mode In Pine > > Is there any way of turning off the insert mode in PINE. I would much > prfer to be in typeover. Thanks for any help that I may receive..... > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------- > | <<< Martin@Dorsai.Org | < Martin Schildkret > >>> | > ----------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 11 17:43:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revisi