From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 1 06:21:32 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02335; Tue, 1 Nov 94 06:21:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05753; Tue, 1 Nov 94 06:09:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from micronet.wcu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05747; Tue, 1 Nov 94 06:09:25 -0800 Received: by micronet.wcu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16582; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:08:32 +0500 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 09:08:31 -0500 (EST) From: Patti Johnson X-Sender: johnson@micronet To: "0000-Admin(0000)" Cc: Louie Valles , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine on solaris2.3 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 814 Here's the help I received from David Miller at Washington. It did the trick for me ... with a few minor changes like adding casts: >To build either 3.89 or 3.91 on Solaris 2.3, you need to add "-Dconst=" to >the CFLAGS line in pine/makefile.sol. Then it should compile with only the >minor warnings you mentioned. Bear in mind that I'm using Sun's SPARCcompiler C - that may cause your/my mileage to vary. pj On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, 0000-Admin(0000) wrote: > I second this. I tried to no avail. So if anybody can compile it please > list your magical solution > > On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, Louie Valles wrote: > > > Hello > > > > Hope this is the right listserve?? > > > > Has anyone attempted pine3.91 on solaris 2.3?????? > > > > Have tried unsuccessfully using build sol. any hints/ideas. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 1 14:33:00 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23591; Tue, 1 Nov 94 14:33:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16296; Tue, 1 Nov 94 14:24:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16290; Tue, 1 Nov 94 14:24:42 -0800 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA03054 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 94 16:57:28 -0500 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA19609; Tue, 1 Nov 94 12:02:53 EST Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25537; Tue, 1 Nov 1994 12:10:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 12:10:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: temp files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To all: We use Pine 3.87 (until 3.91 is available) on a SparcServer running SunOS 4.1.1 I have noticed that there are a lot of temp files in /usr/tmp/ All of them look like this: -rw------- 1 mrbrady 0 Oct 7 16:08 pinesend002737 Most are of 0 bytes. Are those safe to delete? What about the other messages? Does sendmail process them? The above file was created on Oct 7, and just rebooted the system 4 days ago. I guess they are not automatically removed. Any help would be grand. Michael A. Naud Dept of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 1 16:10:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28358; Tue, 1 Nov 94 16:10:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18737; Tue, 1 Nov 94 16:03:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18723; Tue, 1 Nov 94 16:03:18 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 2 Nov 94 07:59:59 -0800 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 07:59:59 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: "Michael A. Naud" Cc: Pine Discussion Group Subject: Re: temp files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Michael A. Naud wrote: > We use Pine 3.87 (until 3.91 is available) on a SparcServer running SunOS > 4.1.1 I have noticed that there are a lot of temp files in /usr/tmp/ All > of them look like this: > > -rw------- 1 mrbrady 0 Oct 7 16:08 pinesend002737 > > Most are of 0 bytes. Are those safe to delete? What about the other > messages? Does sendmail process them? The above file was created on Oct > 7, and just rebooted the system 4 days ago. I guess they are not > automatically removed. Any help would be grand. > First, pine 3.91 is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu, so you may now upgrade. Second, those tmp files may be removed. As you know pine 3.87 is rather old....there may have been a problem with the files not always being removed. I frankly don't remember. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 1 17:28:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02309; Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:28:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20662; Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:19:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pear.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20654; Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:19:30 -0800 Received: by pear.wustl.edu (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA17947; Tue, 1 Nov 94 19:17:35 -0600 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 19:17:34 -0600 (CST) From: A&S NeXT Lab Consultant X-Sender: fruitaid@pear To: Pine Info List Cc: Richard Rochberg Subject: sorting in the sent-mail folder Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all, Do any of you know if there's a way to sort the sent-mail folder by sender? If not, do any of you Pine Gods know if sorting by sender in the sent-mail folder will be a future implementation? Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 Washington University in St. Louis (314) 935-4353 fruitaid@artsci.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 2 07:33:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24637; Wed, 2 Nov 94 07:33:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01197; Wed, 2 Nov 94 07:22:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from micronet.wcu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01191; Wed, 2 Nov 94 07:22:49 -0800 Received: by micronet.wcu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA27784; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:22:13 +0500 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:22:13 +0500 From: johnson@micronet.wcu.edu (Patti Johnson) Message-Id: <9411021522.AA27784@micronet.wcu.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: beginning of messages/parsing Content-Length: 1035 Hello all! I've recently begun using my Sun/Solaris 2.3 - this may be an issue I need to take up elsewhere but thought I'd start here. On my old OS (SCO Xenix), I could process a mail file with one of my own apps - I knew that messages begin with "From ". Knowing this, I could break a mail file down to its individual messages and work with them from there. Then, I moved to my Sun/Solaris 2.3 box and found that that is no longer true. I thought the problem was mine until I received a couple of messages that included several imbedded "From "'s - they were majordomo list logs. Well, mailx could tell that there was a total of 3 messages, where the messages included many other messaages. Pine, on the other hand could not - and parsed them out as several smaller messages. What's the deal on mailbox parsing? How can I tell where one message begins and one ends? Should I cross post this message to another list that discusses Sun or are others of you finding the same "problem"? patti johnson johnson@micronet.wcu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 2 10:42:17 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04264; Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:42:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05786; Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:35:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05780; Wed, 2 Nov 94 10:35:35 -0800 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA08596; Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:34:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 13:34:56 -0500 (EST) From: Spirituality Subject: Getting news through Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one go about recieving newsgroups through Pine? I'd like to access the jvnc.net server - I think. At least, my school USED to have a connection with jvnc, but do I need one to recieve news? I'm only interested in ONE newsgroup, anyway, and I'd like to get it through the mail on a daily basis, if at all possible. Thanks for any info. \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Christina Kuhnen |\/| ---- _ "Hand over the chocolate ckuhnen@ultrix.ramapo.edu =(**)=_____ \ and nobody gets hurt." c___ (______/ World peace starts with inner peace. //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 2 18:18:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25992; Wed, 2 Nov 94 18:18:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17686; Wed, 2 Nov 94 18:12:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17674; Wed, 2 Nov 94 18:12:14 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:56 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:08:55 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Patti Johnson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: beginning of messages/parsing In-Reply-To: <9411021522.AA27784@micronet.wcu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Patti Johnson wrote: > Hello all! > I've recently begun using my Sun/Solaris 2.3 - this may be an issue I need to > take up elsewhere but thought I'd start here. > > On my old OS (SCO Xenix), I could process a mail file with one of my own > apps - I knew that messages begin with "From ". Knowing this, I could break > a mail file down to its individual messages and work with them from there. > > Then, I moved to my Sun/Solaris 2.3 box and found that that is no longer true. > I thought the problem was mine until I received a couple of messages that > included several imbedded "From "'s - they were majordomo list logs. Well, > mailx could tell that there was a total of 3 messages, where the messages > included many other messaages. Pine, on the other hand could not - and parsed > them out as several smaller messages. > > What's the deal on mailbox parsing? How can I tell where one message begins > and one ends? Should I cross post this message to another list that discusses > Sun or are others of you finding the same "problem"? The problem is Sun's twisted notion that the "Content-Length:" field is a valid field. You have several options: One is to adopt a recent suggestion from Mark Crispin: "Please get a copy of our sendit tool (available on our FTP server), or some similar mail delivery tool that does not depend upon the highly bogus Solaris ``Content-Length'' header to skip over message texts with embedded mbox headers. Use it in place of the mail delivery tool (usually /bin/mail) as called by sendmail." I'm not familiar with SUN's sendmail implementation or the /bin/mail program on their system....but you can also try adding the "E" flag to the local mailer definition in the sendmail.cf file. This flag is designed to Escape lines beginning with "From " in the message with an ">" sign. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 2 19:34:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28019; Wed, 2 Nov 94 19:34:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18848; Wed, 2 Nov 94 19:29:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18842; Wed, 2 Nov 94 19:29:44 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Nov 94 11:26:26 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:26:26 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Spirituality Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting news through Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Spirituality wrote: > How does one go about recieving newsgroups through Pine? I'd like to > access the jvnc.net server - I think. At least, my school USED to have a > connection with jvnc, but do I need one to recieve news? > > I'm only interested in ONE newsgroup, anyway, and I'd like to get it > through the mail on a daily basis, if at all possible. Thanks for any info. I think you are slightly confused as the access of newsgroups through pine. With pine you have the ability to access newsgroups through a protocol known as NNTP (Network News Transport Protocol) or (maybe?) IMAP. Since I'm not sure if the IMAP method is supported...I'll only speak to the NNTP way. If jvnc.net supports NNTP...and if...it is configured to allow access to your host you should be able to configure the nntp-server= variable in the Configuration to point to jvnc.net and then go through the process of "subscribing" to the newsgroup that you are interested in reading. The various help menus of pine give a fairly easy to follow directions on how to configure the NNTP server and how to subscribe to a newsgroup. The thing is...you won't be getting the newsgroup as email. In these cases pine acts in a fashion similiar to tin or the other newsreaders. It trys to keep a consistant interface so you don't have to know one set of keystrokes for news and a different set for mail. Since I was not much of a newsreader until pine gave me access...it was a snap for me to figure out the subtle differences keystrokes used in email and the same keystrokes used in newsreading. Others will disagree....to them I simply say it proves the saying, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks.". There are some newsgroups, such as pine, that exist as both a mailing list and newsgroup. They are bi-directionally gatewayed. You may do yourself a favor by asking around to find out if the one that interests you is also a mailing list. Some people prefer getting their news as mailing lists..... Good Luck..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 02:35:04 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07607; Thu, 3 Nov 94 02:35:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24799; Thu, 3 Nov 94 02:30:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24790; Thu, 3 Nov 94 02:30:00 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 3 Nov 94 18:26:45 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 18:26:45 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Spirituality Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting news through Pine (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm resending this since we had some problems here that may have resulted in this mail being "lost". Ed ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:26:26 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Spirituality Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting news through Pine On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Spirituality wrote: > How does one go about recieving newsgroups through Pine? I'd like to > access the jvnc.net server - I think. At least, my school USED to have a > connection with jvnc, but do I need one to recieve news? > > I'm only interested in ONE newsgroup, anyway, and I'd like to get it > through the mail on a daily basis, if at all possible. Thanks for any info. I think you are slightly confused as the access of newsgroups through pine. With pine you have the ability to access newsgroups through a protocol known as NNTP (Network News Transport Protocol) or (maybe?) IMAP. Since I'm not sure if the IMAP method is supported...I'll only speak to the NNTP way. If jvnc.net supports NNTP...and if...it is configured to allow access to your host you should be able to configure the nntp-server= variable in the Configuration to point to jvnc.net and then go through the process of "subscribing" to the newsgroup that you are interested in reading. The various help menus of pine give a fairly easy to follow directions on how to configure the NNTP server and how to subscribe to a newsgroup. The thing is...you won't be getting the newsgroup as email. In these cases pine acts in a fashion similiar to tin or the other newsreaders. It trys to keep a consistant interface so you don't have to know one set of keystrokes for news and a different set for mail. Since I was not much of a newsreader until pine gave me access...it was a snap for me to figure out the subtle differences keystrokes used in email and the same keystrokes used in newsreading. Others will disagree....to them I simply say it proves the saying, "Can't teach an old dog new tricks.". There are some newsgroups, such as pine, that exist as both a mailing list and newsgroup. They are bi-directionally gatewayed. You may do yourself a favor by asking around to find out if the one that interests you is also a mailing list. Some people prefer getting their news as mailing lists..... Good Luck..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:47:33 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21102; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:47:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00494; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00488; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r25bh-00006AC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help on displaying mail headers within pine Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:15:31 -0700 Message-Id: References: <1994Oct26.141234.16306@pb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Oct26.141234.16306@pb.com> Select the enable-full-header-cmd in the Setup/Config screen, then use the 'H' command to toggle the HeaderMode. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Oct 1994, John W. Hurme wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 OCT 1994 14:12:34 GMT > From: John W. Hurme > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Help on displaying mail headers within pine > > Hello, > > Is there a way of viewing all the header information of an email message > within pine? Occasionally trying to reply to email does not pick up the > proper from line. > > Thanks, > > John Hurme > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________________ > John Hurme | Pitney Bowes Inc. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:47:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21120; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:47:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02205; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02199; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r24cU-00005iC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 13:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9265363@hkux5.hku.hk (Sun Ferdinand) Subject: * how to type Escape Characters in Pine?? * Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 04:52:08 GMT hi all I'd like to know how to type Escape Characters (e.g. , ...etc) in pine (pico). Thanks. ferd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:48:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21172; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00466; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00460; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r24iR-00005jC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 13:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markstep@engin.umich.edu (Mark A. Stephan) Subject: A way to group newsgroups in folders? Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:15:51 GMT Message-Id: <393j9n$h92@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Is there a way for one to move newsgroups into a folder (for example, have the comp folder which holds all of the computer help newsgrousp that you subscribe to, one called fun which holds all of the hobby groups, etc...) or are we stuck with the complete list right for now? THANKS! email please! markstep@chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu -mark -- Mark Stephan The University of Michigan markstep@engin.umich.edu computer engineering @chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu The U of M Solar Car Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:49:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21283; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:49:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02219; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02213; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:38:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r24pE-00005kC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: PGP & PINE solution Message-Id: <1994Oct31.074327.258@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 31 Oct 94 07:43:26 CST References: <38s0u3$lbj@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> In article <38s0u3$lbj@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu>, Michael Lawless wrote: >This was sent to me regarding PGP and Pine. I set it up as per the > directions, >and it work's like a charm. I take no credit for this, just reposting it. > Here's the readme for a csh script I work on from time to time. Send your public key to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu if you want it... --8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8<--8< (1) Extract and install mkpgp. At your Unix prompt, run the command: uudecode NameOfTheFileYouArePresentlyReading An executable script, mkpgp, will be extracted. Move the the script into a directory on your path. One such directory is usually "bin" in your home directory. Examine the leading names of your path variable (echo $path) if you are unsure. In the unlikely event that you don't have access to a directory for executables, see * below. Run the Unix command: rehash *or* logout and login. Either of these will make your system "aware" of the new command "mkpgp." (2) Configure Pine for mkpgp. Set the alternate editor to mkpgp: # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico editor=mkpgp * Or use an absolute path. E.g., editor=/yourHomeDir/mkpgp Force Pine to put your signature at the bottom: # Use old style forward/reply with new text and signature below included text # Old-style-reply is obsolete, use signature-at-bottom in feature-list old-style-reply=yes [...] # The feature-list that is in effect when you are running Pine [...] # of the features is no-, that is, off. feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom (3) Set the environment variable "PGPPATH" in a login file. Put a line like: setenv PGPPATH ~/.pgp in .cshrc if you use c-shell. (4) Run and configure mkpgp. This part can be done from the command line or Pine. The first time you run mkpgp it will create $PGPPATH/mkpgprc, and $PGPPATH/tmp. You are immediately given a chance to edit $PGPPATH/mkpgprc. Set the variables to your liking. Clearly, the environment variable "PGPPATH" must be defined before you can run mkpgp. mkpgp comes to a screeching halt if it is not set. Default mkpgprc: # # Configuration file for mkpgp. # # Set the real alternate editor. Pine 3.9.x users, see IMPLICITALTEDIT. # set MKPGPEDITOR = none # # Does Pine use the alternate editor implicitly? Unless you change # MKPGPEDITOR to something other than "none" when IMPLICITALTEDIT = yes, # mkpgp will try to use "pico -z -t". I can only hope that you have it... # set IMPLICITALTEDIT = no # (no/yes) # # When IMPLICITALTEDIT = yes and Pine is configured to include-header-in-reply, # mkpgp can try to pick the right keyid (e-mail address) from the "From:" line. # Whatever it finds is presented as the default recipient id instead of "none". # Entering other keys will replace the default. Entering + will let you add to # the default. Entering - will delete the default so that the message is not # encrypted. See "Replacement lists" below. # set AUTORECRYPT = no # (no/yes) # # Ask to encrypt the message. yes = ask with a default of yes, no = ask # with a default of no, quiet = don't ask, just run. # set ASKTORUN = quiet # (quiet/no/yes) # # Show pubring before asking for encryption keys. # set SHOWPUBRING = yes # (yes/no) # # Secret keyring shown by mkpgp. # set MKPGPSECRING = $PGPPATH/secring.pgp # # Show secring before signing. # set SHOWSECRING = yes # (yes/no) # # Signature file shared by mkpgp & pine. # set SIGFILE = ~/.signature # # Number of seconds to pause. # set PAUSE = 5 # # Determine if sender can read encrypted messages. # set ENCRYPTTOSELF = on # (on/off) # # Circumvent version 2.6.[1] legal kluge. When set to yes, mkpgp uses the pgp2.6 # options: "+ce=0 +le" to create cyphertext readable by earlier versions. When # set to no, it is ignored by all versions of pgp. # set LEGALKLUGE = no # # Warn sender about MIME attachments and signed cleartext. Since mkpgp can # only encrypt the message text, MIME attachments aren't encrypted. mkpgp # can include attachments in the message text for encryption. # set WARNUSER = yes # (yes/no) # # Shell to start when looking at attachments. # set MKPGPSHELL = /bin/csh # # Your "make path" command. NeXT: mkdirs. HP, SCO, DG & Sun: "mkdir -p". # set MKDIRS = /bin/mkdirs # # Quote characters used by pine must be stripped before decryption, and # replaced afterward. There seems to be some variation, so this may need # some tuning. # set QUOTECHAR = "> " # # Replacement lists. If IMPLICITALTEDIT = yes and AUTORECRYPT = yes, you # can automatically replace a key (e-mail address) with other keys. # Below is an example that replaces deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu # with deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu and kelly@home. Be sure to place such lists # behind a "#" with the first word against the "#". Do not include the < >. # #deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu kelly@home # (If you use Pine v3.9.x, [X] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly [X] include-header-in-reply [X] include-text-in-reply with set IMPLICITALTEDIT = yes set ASKTORUN = no set AUTORECRYPT = yes in mkpgprc is pretty slick. mkpgp runs between Pine and your editor to decrypt the message. On exiting the editor, mkpgp asks to run again (with "no" as the default) to re-encrypt the message. It's almost seamless.) (4) Usage. My first axiom: I detest pecking on keyboards... ========== Encryption ========== If you use the defaults: Compose a message then invoke the alternate editor. mkpgp will ask: Include encrypted attachment(s)? [n] At every prompt, simply hit the key if you want what's in []. (This can be important; don't give mkpgp needless input. Remember my first axiom.) Enter y and hit if you want to include attachments in the message text (thereby encrypting them). A primitive browser will let you navigate the file system to attach files and dirs. You select attachments by number. Hit on a blank line to move up one directory. Selecting a single directory is ambiguous (since you are navigating the directories with the same browser), so you are further prompted to "Enter or Attach? [e]" it. Hit to enter, enter "a" and hit to attach it. If a directory is a member of a list, mkpgp attaches it is. After collecting all the attachments, enter f and hit . $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is listed and you are a given a chance change it. If you elect to do so, mkpgp will cd to $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach and start a shell. Do what you will, and use "exit" or d to exit and return to mkpgp. mkpgp copies attachments into $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach. When you exit the browser, $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is tar'ed, compress, uuencoded and appended to the message text as ascii. $PGPPATH/tmp/mkpgpAttach is then removed (*not* wiped and deleted). Next, pgp will show a public key ring and mkpgp will ask: Enter recipient key id(s) [none]. List the recipient key id(s) separated by blanks, or hit if you don't want to encrypt the message. Next, pgp will show $PGPPATH/secring.pgp secret key ring and mkpgp will ask: Sign the message with which secret key? [n] y selects the key defined by MyName in $PGPPATH/config.txt. You can select an alternate by giving a keyid (If you enter n, mkpgp will look for a key with n in it. Bad news... Remember my first axiom. Also, beware of the ENCRYPTTOSELF option if you select an alternate key.) If you elect to sign the message, pgp will request a pass phrase. pgp goes to work on the message. There is a 5 second delay when pgp is finished so you can see what happened. After that you should be looking at the message in the Pine window. Send it. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=on, you can decrypt the copy of the message in sent-mail. If ENCRYPTTOSELF=off and you didn't include yourself as a recipient, you might as well delete it. The actual pgp command options used by mkpgp are: pgp -setw $LEGALKLUGE +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF +armor=on +keepbinary=off\ +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $sign pgp -satw $LEGALKLUGE +clearsig=on +keepbinary=off +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $sign pgp -etw $LEGALKLUGE +pubring=$MKPGPPUBRING +encrypttoself=$ENCRYPTTOSELF\ +armor=on +keepbinary=off +armorlines=0 +tmp=$PGPPATH/tmp $1 $keys $1 is /tmp/pico.xxxx, $keys is the list of keys, $sign is the key id used to sign the message. If LEGALKLUGE = yes in $PGPPATH/mkpgprc then LEGALKLUGE is reset to "+ce=0 +le" and mkpgp exploits a bug in pgp2.6[.1] that creates cyphertext readable by 2.3a. If LEGALKLUGE = no in $PGPPATH/mkpgprc, then LEGALKLUGE is reset to " " (thus ignored). There are several other calls to pgp to wipe and delete temporary files. ========== Decryption ========== The only way to decrypt using mkpgp is in a reply or forward since that is your only access to the alternate editor. If mkpgp finds a line beginning with one of the the strings: -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- > -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- it will strip the leading "> " and run the command: pgp +force +interactive=on +keepbinary=off attempting to mimic the forward/reply behavior of Pine. If, along the way, a line beginning with: begin 600 mkpgpAttach.tar.Z is found in the message text, mkpgp will list the attachments and ask to unpack them. You you choose to do so, the mkpgpAttach directory is moved into $PGPPATH (renaming if needed). The mkpgpAttach.tar.Z file is wiped & deleted. You are given a chance to examine/delete the attachments (exit as before). -- kc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:51:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21366; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:51:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02235; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:39:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02229; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:39:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r25bX-000069C; Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 how can I lock the Config file... Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 09:14:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: If you just want to prevent users from changing their configuration, use the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Oct 1994, Nabil Zary dsg wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 OCT 1994 09:29:11 GMT > From: Nabil Zary dsg > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine 3.91 how can I lock the Config file... > > Thanks! > > MvH Nabil Zary > > -- > (o o) > +------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------------------+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:52:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21439; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:52:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00502; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:39:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00496; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:39:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r25DD-00005pC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 14:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cb92dge@brunel.ac.uk (Dominic G.E. Earl) Subject: Redirecting Message-Id: Date: Tue, 25 Oct 1994 08:27:32 GMT Can anyone please help me. My girlfriend is a systems administrator for a financial firm, they currently have Windows and MSMail. They are thinking about installing some redirection software onto the network to deal with rerouting mail for holidays and such. Can anyone give me tales of real life use of different packages that they have used... or grapevine news about what you have heard... Please mail me back directly : cb92dge@brunel.ac.uk Thanks a lot in advance for you help. Dom P.S. They have seen WinRules and C2C - any info about these two would be greatly appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:55:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21526; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:55:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00687; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00681; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r28fQ-00006SC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 18:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: inbox remote mail server Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:28:04 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3925bd$3vk@werple.apana.org.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3925bd$3vk@werple.apana.org.au> inbox-path={werple.apana.org.au} |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Oct 1994, Nick Allan wrote: > Date: 31 OCT 1994 18:11:41 +1100 > From: Nick Allan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: inbox remote mail server > > Hello everyone > > I connect to the site that holds my email via a slip connection, this > connection is dialup. > I would like pine on my home system to use the inbox on the mail system. > I know you are supposed to use the in-box-path in your .pinerc file but > can someone tell me what the format of this is supposed to look like > eg the host is werple.apana.org.au and my mail file on this host is > /var/mail/guardian > > Thanks for any assistance. > > > -- > Regards Nick > > Guardian@werple.apana.org.au > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:56:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21585; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:56:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00703; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00697; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2afw-00008AC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 00:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (Jim Boyer) Subject: Re: How to force pine-3.91 to see that new mail has arrived? Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 21:39:08 GMT I use Ctrl-L to refresh the index immediatedly. -- Jim In , steveo@world.std.com (Steven W Orr) writes: >I have a biff that shows that new mail has arrived, but while I'm in >pine, pine doesn't know it cause 2.5 minutes have not yet elapsed. >Result is that I end up having to get out and back into pine to force >the new mail to be seen. Any keystroke to make it happen on the fly? > >Many thanks in advance. Please email. I'll summarize. >-- >----------Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana.---------------- >--------Stranger things have happened but none stranger than this.------------- >Steven W. Orr steveo@world.std.com >---------------"Listen to me! We are all individuals."------------------------- Jim Boyer e-mail: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu Washington State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:56:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21591; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:56:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00777; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00771; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2c0F-00008SC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 01:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sadistic@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Izumi Sakai) Subject: How to post news through pine or elm? Date: 2 Nov 1994 05:46:12 GMT Message-Id: <397934$pjg@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Hello all netters, Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine? I can only read news through pine, but not elm, and can't post news through both programs. 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Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:15:07 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Use it. You will need to mark it executable (chmod +x) and will probably want to rename it, but other than that it should be ready to run... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 29 Oct 1994, David Helder wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 OCT 1994 10:14:00 > From: David Helder > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: pine-bin files, what do I do with them? > > > I've downloaded pine 3.91 for linux. When I untar it, I get a 2 meg file > called pine-bin.[something]. What do I do with this file? There's probably a > simple, obvious solution, but I don't see it. > > -David > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > David Helder - University of Michigan > dhelder@umich.edu > Computers are the Evil Minions of Satan! viva la Solo! > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:57:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21689; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:57:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00675; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00667; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r27JM-00006OC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 16:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: eof and bof in pico Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:27:58 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In Pine 3.91/Pico 2.5, use ^W^V and ^W^Y, respectively. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 26 Oct 1994, Steve Thornberry wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 OCT 1994 16:29:08 GMT > From: Steve Thornberry > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: eof and bof in pico > > Hi, > > How do I do end-of-file and beginning-of-file in pico without > having to type cntrl-v or cntrl-y a thousand times? I tried cntrl-< and > cntrl-> but to no avail.. > > Steve > > PS. please e-mail any respone to smthor01@msuacad.morehead-st.edu > as it's a real pain for me to read news. :( > > Thanks for any help > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:57:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21710; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:57:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00785; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00779; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2cCz-00008UC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 01:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richh@romulus.ncsc.mil (Richard L. Hamilton) Subject: Pine running wild when user's session disconnected Date: 2 Nov 1994 00:56:46 -0500 Message-Id: <3979mu$ha7@romulus.ncsc.mil> I've noticed pine processes associated with users whose sessions ended with either a non-zero return code or a hangup signal running wild, i.e. apparently looping to no particular end, and eating CPU time (some hours after the login session had been terminated). I've got a wild guess that where it is looping is line 392 of pine3.91/pine/ttyin.c, i.e.: if(errno == EINTR) return(NO_OP_COMMAND); Now, since errno is *not* cleared by successful calls, there is currently no way to know whether this test is being satisfied as a consequence of the read() call on line 381, that is: res = read(STDIN_FD, &c, 1); If my wild guess is right, adding: errno = 0; *before* the read() call in line 381 should take care of it. Now for the bottom line: 1. has anyone had similar problems? 2. any comments on the possible explanation/fix? FYI, this is happening on a system running DG/UX ("./build d-g"). And the printer problems are happening there too, not that I think that relates to the problem I'm bringing up. -- I compute, therefore I am. My opinions are strictly by own, and should not be construed to represent anyone else. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:57:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21739; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:57:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02427; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02419; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Aow-00006XC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 20:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Saving Outgoing Mail Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:10:54 GMT Message-Id: <393bve$bto@news.halcyon.com> References: <38ram5$i6n@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> updmst@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Doug McIntyre) writes: >Does any one have a "slicker" way to save sent mail into differing folders? If you have Pine 3.90 or higher you can set default-compose-hdrs to contain Fcc. It will default to being filled in with saved-messages but then you can edit it when you want to ``folder carbon copy'' a different folder. Here's what I have in my .pinerc: # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=To, Cc, Subject, Fcc Hope this helps, Nancy -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough | http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < Infinite Ink | ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:57:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21760; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:57:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00647; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00641; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r26hB-00006KC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 16:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Upgrading to 3.9x question. Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:06:51 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Your novice users should see very little difference and there should not be any problem with old mail. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 28 Oct 1994, 0000-Admin(0000) wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 OCT 1994 22:42:39 GMT > From: 0000-Admin(0000) > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Upgrading to 3.9x question. > > What will happen to my users if I upgrade from Pine 3.89 to 3.92? Will > they lose their old mail, will they need to do anything? > > Thanks for any info. > > Greg padden > King County Library System > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:58:13 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21794; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02389; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02383; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r27J5-00006NC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 16:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: addressbooks via IMAP Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:25:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: <38lmeq$cbv@news.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <38lmeq$cbv@news.utdallas.edu> If you are using an older IMAPd, it will not recognize an addressbook file as a folder. The IMAPd from the Pine 3.91 distribution should open it as a read-only pseudo-folder. Pine cannot make use of a remote addressbook as an addressbook unless you mount it via NFS or some such. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 26 Oct 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > Date: 26 OCT 1994 13:43:54 GMT > From: Billy Barron > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: addressbooks via IMAP > > On PINE 3.9X, I put my global addressbooks in the directory > /var/spool/mail/pinestuff (/var/spool/mail obviously being the > location of the INBOX) for UNIX using NFS. Our Novell guy tried > to access them via IMAP and claims he got some type of permission > denied message. I know the files are readable to everyone as all > UNIX users can access it. > > Is there something in the IMAP server that blocks access to it? Or > does anybody have any other ideas? > > > -- > Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas > billy@utdallas.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:59:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21854; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02367; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02361; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r26dL-00006FC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 15:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: odd characters in mail Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:03:44 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It sounds like you have a keyboard mapping problem in your terminal emulator. The shift-space is getting mapped to an 8-bit value (SP with 8th bit set). this is triggering Quoted-Printable encoding, which is what your recipients with non-MIME aware mail readers are seeing. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 28 Oct 1994, Ken Hancock wrote: > Date: Fri, 28 OCT 1994 18:32:31 GMT > From: Ken Hancock > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: odd characters in mail > > > I recently switched to using pine (from elm) and have run into a couple > oddities, most likely with pico. [Pine release 3.90] > > 1) shift-space. I have a tendency to do shift-spaces following capital I's. > pico inserts =A0. Any way to get rid of this? > 2) ?? People receiving my mail (not using pine) see a =20 imbedded in the > text. I think this is somehow related to word wrapping. > > I'm using eXodus on a Mac and running on a HP-735 running HPUX 9.0. > > Any suggestions? > > Ken > -- > Ken Hancock | INTERNET: kenh@vgi.com > Isle Systems | Compuserve: >INTERNET: kenh@vgi.com > Macintosh Consulting | AOL: KHancock > | Disclaimer: My opinions are mine, > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:59:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21895; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00695; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00689; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r29aM-00006TC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 19:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matt@exeter.sewanee.edu (Matt Laney) Subject: Re: .signature at top, not bottom Date: 31 Oct 1994 03:52:00 GMT Message-Id: <391pl0$1rs@cherub.sewanee.edu> References: <38r7ae$ifr@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Matthew Osborne (mo@pineapple.apmaths.uwo.ca) rambled: : can't chown it back etc.. Anyways, how can I get my .signature to be : placed automagically at the BOTTOM of the message instead of the top? There's an option for that in .pinerc (on my copy, at least). Add 'signature-at-bottom' to your 'feature-list'. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:59:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21932; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00659; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00653; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r27CN-00006MC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 16:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Folder directories Date: Wed, 26 Oct 1994 11:21:10 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Yes, paths are relative to the user's home directory. You can specify absolute paths though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 25 Oct 1994, Bruce Sachetti wrote: > Date: Tue, 25 OCT 1994 08:15:20 GMT > From: Bruce Sachetti > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Folder directories > > When specifying folder-collections, among other things in my pine.conf, Pine > seems to assume the path is relative to a user's home directory. I am trying > to setup mail in a common area outside a user's home directory. > > This is on AIX 3.2.x and Pine 3.89. Any help would be appreciated. > > Bruce Sachetti > bsachett@alert.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:59:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21938; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02407; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02401; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r28Ln-00006QC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 17:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skinnyt@u.washington.edu (Tos Fackenthall) Subject: combine e-mail messages before exporting??? Date: 31 Oct 1994 21:56:23 GMT Message-Id: <393p67$1ld@nntp1.u.washington.edu> i was wondering if there is a way to combine lots of small e-mail messages into one large one, so if i wanted to print them out, i would only have to make one text file and then i could print it with ms word. i'm pretty new to this whole pine/e-mail/nn/internet thing...can anyone help me out??? thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 09:59:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21942; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00749; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00743; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2BeD-00006aC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 21:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Global Address Books Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 13:09:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The command pine -create_lu addressbook will generate an addressbook.lu file and may be invoked from a script... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 29 Oct 1994, Michael Nelson wrote: > Date: Sat, 29 OCT 1994 04:17:12 GMT > From: Michael Nelson > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Global Address Books > > What @*#$!! permissions should I set on the global address book and > associated lookup index file? I am using Pine 3.90 (will upgrade when I get > some free time). > > I have a program that updates the global addressbook every night based on > the user list... is there anyway I can update this externally (i.e. without > someone going into Pine)? Right now it complains about not being able to > update the index file... > > HELP! > > -- Mike > > -- > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Michael Nelson | mikenel@netcom.com > Rockville, Maryland | mikenel@newport.org > PGP Public Key: Finger or ftp.netcom.com:/pub/mikenel/pubkey.asc > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:00:13 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22004; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02397; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02391; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r27Tp-00006PC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 16:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdenham@tiger1.ocs.lsu.edu (Ronald Evans Denham) Subject: FAQ? Date: 26 Oct 1994 14:49:45 -0500 Message-Id: <38mbsp$10hj@tiger3.ocs.lsu.edu> I'm interested in setting up PC Pine clients with a VMS Mail Server. I don't have a grip on how all of the parts function together to provide mail and security. I'm planning on using MS Windows 3.1 clients with the Trumpet IP stack running also with DECNet. Where can I get a FAQ that would show me all the parts I'll need and how they operate together. Furthermore, who out there has sucessfully set up and operates PC Pine clients from a VMS mail server? Tips/Tricks/Problems? Thanks for your help. Ron Denham rdenham@tiger.lsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:00:42 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22055; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02415; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02409; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r29fz-00006UC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 19:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@chinook.uoregon.edu (Ben Marcotte) Subject: Error: Cross-Device Link? (3.89) Date: 31 Oct 1994 18:38:01 GMT Message-Id: <393di9$68f@pith.uoregon.edu> Does anyone know why Pine 3.89 complains about a cross device link? We're using Solaris 2.1 (we're obsolete in everything!). Will updating to 3.90 or 3.91 solve our problem. I can't see why a happily mounted file system would pose any problems for Pine. Thanks, Ben Marcotte ============================================================================== Ben Marcotte ben@chinook.uoregon.edu (503) 346-4592 ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:00:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22084; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02533; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:50:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02527; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:50:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2CSh-00006eC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 22:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: updmst@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Doug McIntyre) Subject: Saving Outgoing Mail Date: 28 Oct 1994 16:59:49 GMT Message-Id: <38ram5$i6n@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> As a Help Desk consultant, I've recieved the following message > My other message is in reference to the fact that after sending a message > to someone that I want to save my copy in a specific folder, right now, I > have to go into the sent mail folder, select the message and then save > it to the desired folder. This is, in my opinion an unnecessary hastle. Does any one have a "slicker" way to save sent mail into differing folders? Doug McIntyre Doug_McIntyre@unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:02:31 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22163; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:02:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00846; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:51:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00840; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:51:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2D5n-00006fC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 22:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mowrer@alphaii.alphamed.com () Subject: SCO Message-Id: Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 21:19:11 GMT Can anyone point me to an ftp site that has pine for SCO.. Thanks -- _/_/_/_/_/ Jim Mowrer _/ _/ _/_/ _/_/ mowrer@alphamed.com _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ ...There's no place like $HOME _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:04:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22266; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:04:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02479; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02473; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:48:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2c4d-00008TC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 01:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) Subject: Re: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Date: 2 Nov 1994 01:06:00 GMT Message-Id: <396olo$lma@inxs.ncren.net> References: <396l8r$kv8@inxs.ncren.net> Following up on my own post with more info... Michael J. Diehn (mike) (mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu) wrote: : I'm running UnixWare 1.1.2. Has anyone built pine3.91 from source : on a UnixWare box yet? I tried to build pine using the command "build sv4" The pico, imapd and mtest parts were built, but the make died during the pine build with the following error message. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 71: identifier redeclared: system "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 169: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 7465: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Does anyone know how to modify the sv4 makefile for use with unixware? Again, : Thanks folks, : Michael Diehn : mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:05:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22318; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:05:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02564; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:51:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02558; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:51:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2dgP-00008hC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 03:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peterb@telerate.com (Peter L. Berghold) Subject: Re: Help: How to send mails to Multi-users ? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:25:34 GMT Message-Id: References: <38uthm$8tp@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> In article <38uthm$8tp@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> xwast3+@pitt.edu (Xiyou Wang) writes: >From: xwast3+@pitt.edu (Xiyou Wang) >Subject: Help: How to send mails to Multi-users ? >Date: 30 Oct 1994 01:40:06 GMT >Hi, there: >I just found this group today. I have been figuring how to sent mails to my >whole class, I already have the users in my class stored in a file. Do I need >to inlude the full e-mail addresses also? >Thanks for any help and comments. In your address book create an alias with all the email addresses for your class. Once you have done that, you can compose messages from the address book to the appropriate alias. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:06:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22339; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00876; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00860; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:52:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2EFV-00006iC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 00:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: setting up PC-PINE Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 09:52:03 -0700 Message-Id: References: <389a2d$con@pangea.ohionet.org> <38r3ng$99u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <38r3ng$99u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Just telnet to port 143 on the server... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 28 Oct 1994, Rod B. Nussbaumer wrote: > Date: 28 OCT 1994 15:01:04 GMT > From: Rod B. Nussbaumer > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: setting up PC-PINE > > Don Prezioso (dprez@sol.ohionet.org) wrote: > >Joseph J. Greenberg (jjg@humansyn.com) wrote: > >: I am a neophyte pine user, at least on pc. I am trying to set up pc-pine to be > >: used under trumpet winsock over a slip dial up connection. Can anybody explain > > >server, you should make sure that the IMAP server is running, or you > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > I am trying to get it running. How can I tell if it is? Since > it is invoked on demand by inetd, it doesn't show up as a > process listed by 'ps -x'. Right?. > Please expand on this subject. > > Thanks. > --- Rod. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Rod Nussbaumer, Programmer/Technologist Internet: rodn@sundae.triumf.ca > TRIUMF --- University of British Columbia, Phone: (604)222-7449 > Vancouver, BC, Canada. FAX: (604)222-8325 > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:06:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22368; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02606; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:52:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02600; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:52:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2EmG-00006nC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 00:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) Subject: Pine and UUENCODED files to Marry? Message-Id: <1994Oct31.101229.24970@dmp.csiro.au> Date: Mon, 31 Oct 1994 10:12:29 GMT Is there any chance or way UUENCODED files can be extracted transparently in PINE? Pine is great for transparently extracting MIME files for novice to casual UNIX users. Though - when a person emails a UUENCODED file (as that is all their email software supports) to a PINE user on our site - mayhem breaks out. Usually resulting in a tearful phone call to who ever is on the console. (I don't remember seeing this on the FAQ files?) Thanks in advance, Lachlan. -- Lachlan Cranswick - CSIRO _--_|\ lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU Division of Mineral Products / \ tel +61 3 647 0367 339 Williamstown Rd, \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223 Port Melbourne, Australia, 3207 v From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:07:07 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22451; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01065; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01059; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2hV6-000096C; Wed, 2 Nov 94 07:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lc@oasis.icl.co.uk (Liam Crilly) Subject: Re: How to post news through pine or elm? Message-Id: References: <397934$pjg@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 09:21:38 GMT Izumi Sakai wrote: »Hello all netters, »Just wanna know how to post news through elm and pine? I can only read news »through pine, but not elm, and can't post news through both programs. »Thanx for any help. [hideously long sig removed] Pine became a full newsreader including posting ability with v3.90. Elm has never had any newsreading capabilities. Liam. -- 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 Liam Crilly 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 8 "88 88 " 8 8 lc@oasis.icl.co.uk 8 "88 88 " 8 8 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 ++ Performance Benchmarking Unit, Client-Server Systems, ICL, Bracknell. ++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:07:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22478; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02833; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02827; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2iAk-00009CC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: combine e-mail messages before exporting??? Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:05:40 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <393p67$1ld@nntp1.u.washington.edu> On 31 Oct 1994, Tos Fackenthall wrote: > i was wondering if there is a way to combine lots of small e-mail > messages into one large one, so if i wanted to print them out, i would > only have to make one text file and then i could print it with ms word. > i'm pretty new to this whole pine/e-mail/nn/internet thing...can anyone > help me out??? thanks. > Just select them all with the select operator (;) and then go A E ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:08:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22507; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02742; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02736; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2gED-000091C; Wed, 2 Nov 94 05:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mchang@teal.ece.jhu.edu (Mark L. Chang) Subject: IMAP and rsh Date: 1 Nov 1994 19:50:56 -0500 Message-Id: <396npg$2g0@teal.ece.jhu.edu> Currently, the machine that I want to access via the IMAPd daemon does not allow rsh access (rlogin type) because the sysadmin sees it as a security hole too big to justify. Any way around this? Also... I've got my own machine set up, but I didn't configure IMAPd for it when installing pine... is there an easy way to do this and does the archive contain sample imapd.conf files? Thanks. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark L. Chang | http://teal.ece.jhu.edu/~mchang | mchang@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:08:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22530; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00980; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00974; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2fnw-00008zC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 05:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gedeon@server.melbpc.org.au (Gedeon Herschberg) Subject: deleting Date: 2 Nov 1994 08:32:03 GMT Message-Id: <397iq3$ls3@eplet.apana.org.au> Is there a way in pine to delete a number of messages in one line commands or something similar to the ^d command of elm? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:08:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22581; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02375; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02369; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:45:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r26N4-00006EC; Mon, 31 Oct 94 15:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mprokop@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Manfred Prokop) Subject: International character sets on Pine Date: 31 Oct 1994 20:01:49 GMT Message-Id: <393ifd$qbt@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> I just got onto this list. I have a couple of questions: I notice that Pine 2.91 is being used; we are still on 2.89. Is there a significant advantage in upgrading? The real question: I would like to be able to type and send and receive the accented German letters (two dots over a "o", "u", "a" and their upper-case equivalents, plus the beta-like s-sound. In NuPOP I can include an ASCII file which contains these characters, but I can't type them in either NuPOP or Pine. Changing to the DEC Multinational set did not help either. Any suggestions? Also: Have the screen editing facilities of Pine been improved? ^D and ^L is a pain! Thanks, Manfred Prokop U of Alberta mprokop@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:08:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22596; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00992; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00984; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2fYA-00008lC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: HELP bogus date with imap from VMS server Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:26:09 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This sounds like a problem with your VMS IMAP server. Please contact the vendor of that server and report the problem. Most likely, the error is in the returned ``INTERNALDATE''. -- Mark -- On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Nick Pikarsky wrote: > > Help, > Have multiple vms servers using pine 3.89 with imapd, tcp/ip > transport via multinet (tgv). Get reported error of bogus data when opening > remote folder with both pc-pine 3.91 and unix (ultrix v4.2) pine 3.91. > Date is in the form 0-???-1969, is there any work around or fix > for this... > > Thanks in advance.. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > Nick Pikarsky > pikarsky@maniac.med.miami.edu > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:13:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22849; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:13:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02958; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:04:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02952; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:04:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2mXv-00009PC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 12:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ces@christa.unh.edu (Christan E Schoenfeld) Subject: How to send mail to Prodigy users??? Date: 2 Nov 1994 12:11:33 GMT Message-Id: <397vll$khe@mozz.unh.edu> How do Prodigy and Internet users address each other in E-Mail? Any help would eb appreciated. -Chris -- __________________________________________________________________________ |Chris E. Schoenfeld | University of New Hampshire | |Communications / PoliSci Major | Look to the Cookie! | |_________________________________|________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:13:23 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22870; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:13:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03004; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:05:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02998; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:05:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2oG9-00009UC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 14:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: navarro@vents.uji.es (Enrique Navarro Sanchis) Subject: PINE and MIME Date: 2 Nov 1994 13:54:55 GMT Message-Id: <3985nf$ba8@oreig.uji.es> I have installed on our HP9000 s730 the pine3.90 package to read mail. It have the ability to Attach documents. Please, how can I view a document in Postcript from inside pine ? The .pinerc file has an option to display images and I can display them. I do not have seen any option to view (via ghostview for instance) Postcript (and other type of) files. Please, can you mail me the responses ? I do not use read this group. I'll summarize. Thanks in advance. -- Enric Navarro Sanchis e-mail:navarro@si.uji.es Analista de Sistemas Tfn: 964-345875 ext. 4119 Centre Processament de Dades | DO NOT BUY IVORY | Universitat Jaume I | Ivory belongs only | Castello, Spain | to Elephants. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:16:28 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23030; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:16:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01296; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01288; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2TZe-00007hC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 16:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robgonz@netcom.com (Rob Gonzalez) Subject: Pine-Wyse60 Help Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:03:10 GMT I have wyse 60 hooked to a stallion i/o serail conneciotion board on my sco unix system. I am having some problems with pine, one wyse it sends cntl e's and another wyse60 i go into pine and can do anything, oes anyone know how to configure my wyse 60 properly for pine ? thanks robgonz@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:16:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23063; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:16:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01258; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01252; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2PRd-00007RC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 12:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Philip Hazel) Subject: Re: pine on solaris2.3 Date: 1 Nov 1994 09:09:50 GMT Message-Id: <3950ku$t8p@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <31OCT94.12739328.0050.MUSIC@UTEP> In article <31OCT94.12739328.0050.MUSIC@UTEP>, BA70%UTEP.bitnet@utepvm.utep.edu (Louie Valles) writes: |> Has anyone attempted pine3.91 on solaris 2.3?????? Many people, I should think. |> Have tried unsuccessfully using build sol. any hints/ideas. >From the notes I kept when building it using Sun's cc compiler: This is what I did when building Pine 3.91: SOLARIS 2.3 ----------- . Edited pine/osdep/os-sv4.h and made 3 changes (original file in .orig): . Set the locations of the pine global configuration files; . De-commented the setting of ANSI; . Commented the null definition of "const". . Edited pine/makefile.sol and made one change (original file in .orig): . Commented out the compiler flag setting for -g -DDEBUG. . De-commented the compiler flag setting for -O. . Typed "build sol" at top level. It all built straight away, seemingly successfully. There were a number of compiler warnings, some about changes of comparisons for ANSI semantics, and some for apparent differences of argument types to some routines. These do not seem to matter. -- Philip Hazel University Computing Service, ph10@cus.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Cambridge CB2 3QG, P.Hazel@ucs.cam.ac.uk England. Phone: +44 1223 334714 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:16:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23075; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:16:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01334; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01324; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2vkS-00009mC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 22:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: PINE and MIME Date: Wed, 02 Nov 1994 22:15:00 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3985nf$ba8@oreig.uji.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have installed on our HP9000 s730 the pine3.90 package to read > mail. It have the ability to Attach documents. Please, how can I > view a document in Postcript from inside pine ? Press v to go to the attachment index, and pipe the attachment to "ghostview -". Pine3.91 groks .mailcap where you could write application/postscript; ghostview %s From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23096; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01344; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01338; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2wBx-00009oC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 23:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Peter L. Berghold" Subject: Re: Sending Multiple Email Address Date: 2 Nov 1994 20:19:56 GMT Message-Id: <398s9c$kna@jetty.telerate.com> References: > I've just started using Pine and I would like to send messages to > my buddies overseas, all at once. Is their away that I can modify the file > ..addressbook in Pine to have them all receive my message, without each > of them receiving each others email address. > 1) start pine 2) hit the "M" key for the main menu 3) hit the "A" key for the address book 4) hit the "S" key to create a list 5) follow the prompts and enter the list parms 6) enjoy! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23132; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01230; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:05:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01224; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:05:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2oBU-00009SC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: How to force pine-3.91 to see that new mail has arrived? Message-Id: <1994Nov2.151713.266@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 2 Nov 94 15:17:12 CST References: In article , Roman Czyborra wrote: >> I have a biff that shows that new mail has arrived, but while I'm in >> pine, pine doesn't know it cause 2.5 minutes have not yet elapsed. >> Result is that I end up having to get out and back into pine to force >> the new mail to be seen. Any keystroke to make it happen on the fly? > >Control-L on the Index Screen. I'd junk xbiff. > Trying to move past the last message works for me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23186; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03096; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03090; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Ux1-00007kC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arice@dorsai.org Subject: Help with Pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 17:40:01 GMT I have this problem with pine, and it's been going since day one, quite a long time. When I try going into the SENT-MAIL folder I get this message Opening "Sent Mail" .... and a second later I get this message: Permision denied: mail/sent mail and it does not let me get into this folder. Anyone have a solution or even thought? I will try anything.. thanx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23200; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03106; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03100; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Wa6-00007pC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 19:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Scott Walker Subject: Save to my home disc? how? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 18:37:12 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi There, As you may have guessed, I'm new to this. I am having problems exporting mail to my home computer. I am accessing from my home computer through U of O's pine service via modem, and when I try to save to a disc in the B drive nothing happens! Huh? What? HELP! Kevin. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:41 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23235; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03080; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03072; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2UAo-00007iC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 17:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbollow@netcom.com (jbollow@netcom.com) Subject: How to I save the whole folder? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:48:01 GMT Hi. Quick question. November just arrived and now I have another folder in Pine. It's the mail that I sent in October. Is there any way to export that whole folder (rather than saving each file individually)? I would like to put it all onto a disk (or two), rather than leaving it all at Netcom. Thanks! -- ---jeff--- jbollow@netcom.com E-mail read and answered daily. If you get no response within 48 hours, please resend your e-mail. One of these days, e-mail will become as reliable as it is efficient. ...Well, I can always HOPE, can't I? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:17:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23264; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01320; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01310; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2uIY-00009iC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 21:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael J. Diehn (mike)" Subject: Re: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:10:27 -0500 Message-Id: References: <2eb7beda0.1b9f@stimpy.summit.novell.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2eb7beda0.1b9f@stimpy.summit.novell.com> Following my request for help with building pine3.91 under UnixWare 1.1.2, I received the following responses in email. Thanks to John and Jeff, pine is now running on my system and the users are happy. If anyone out there is still using pine3.89, I'd suggest upgrading to 3.91 as soon as you can. Thanks all, Mike. Michael J. Diehn System Administrator, Warren Wilson College Swannanoa, NC (USA) *************************************************************** Jeff Lind Unix Systems Group, Novell, Inc. jal@summit.novell.com -------------------------- cp imap/NON-ANSI/c-client/os_sv4.c imap/ANSI/c-client/os_sv4.c cp imap/NON-ANSI/c-client/os_sv4.h imap/ANSI/c-client/os_sv4.h different ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile different ./imap/Makefile different ./pine/osdep/os-sv4.h diff of ./imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile in pine3.90 and Npine3.90 205c205 < CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true \ --- > CFLAGS="-g -DANSI $(EXTRACFLAGS)" RANLIB=true \ diff of ./imap/Makefile in pine3.90 and Npine3.90 48c48 < a32 aix bsi d-g lnx mnt neb nxt osf sco sgi: --- > a32 aix bsi d-g lnx mnt neb nxt osf sco sgi sv4: 51c51 < bsd cvx dyn hpp isc ptx pyr s40 sol ssn sun sv4 ult vul: --- > bsd cvx dyn hpp isc ptx pyr s40 sol ssn sun ult vul: diff of ./pine/osdep/os-sv4.h in pine3.90 and Npine3.90 188c188 < /* #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ --- > #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ 190c190 < #define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ --- > /*#define const /* compiler doesn't support const */ ***************************************************************** John L. Korpi Stratus Computer, Inc. john@va.stratus.com (703) 902-8856 I was just messing around with pine. I modified pine/osdep/os-sv4.h, uncommenting the line #define ANSI, and commented out the line #define const pine then compiled, but further modifications are needed to define the proper mail transfer agent. I believe pine expects /usr/lib/sendmail. UnixWare has sendmail in /usr/ucblib, and the standard version as shipped by Novell is broken. I guess there's also a ptf with the latest version of sendmail somewhere on ftp.novell.com. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:18:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23285; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:18:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03139; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03133; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:07:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Ynf-00007vC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Multiple sessions viewing a mailbox Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:00:09 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This would work if you use tenex format with a delivery program such as tmail (available on our FTP server) to write to it. There is a general misunderstanding as to exactly what, and why, read-only is with the standard UNIX mbox format. Read-only in mbox format means that Pine has taken an in-memory snapshot of that folder. After it takes the snapshot of the folder, it no longer looks at the disk. Messages can be deleted and expunged, and Pine would not know. The fact that messages can be deleted and expunged, or that messages can be moved around (because of writing the Status:/X-Status:) header, means that a Pine process can not update its in-memory snapshot, unless it was the entity that did the manipulation of the folder. If some other process sloshes messages around, Pine no longer knows where anything is in the file. The only way to reconcile is to toss out everything it may have known about the file and read it all in again; that's just about what you do when you quit Pine and restart it. There is a lock that says ``I declare that I may slosh messages around in the folder.'' If a Pine process has this lock, it is called ``normal access''. If not, it is called ``read-only access'' and it punts on trying to keep track of what the disk copy is doing. Tenex format exploits certain technical aspects to permit many Pine processes to read the folder at the same time, yet each is able to reconcile the in-Pine state with the disk (Tenex format does not require a complete snapshot of the folder, just pointers to where all the messages are). So, using Tenex format, you can have lots of people reading the same file, and seeing changes as they happen, even if they only have read permission to the file. The downside to Tenex format is that it is incompatible from the ordinary UNIX mbox format, so other tools such as Elm can not read folders in this format. -- Mark -- On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > > We are considering using a dummy username's inbox as our incoming fault > report conduit. The idea is that lots of people could have a window open > running pine -if /var/spool/mail/dummy_username > > These lots of people have group read permission on the spool file. > > It works up to a point, but new arrivals are not reflected in the > read-only sessions. If a session is read-only, why shouldn't pine > periodically check the mail spool for changes? The person with the r/o > session isn't changing anything ... > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:19:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23371; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03034; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03028; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Ree-00007cC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 14:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sui@ornl.gov (Shui Chang) Subject: Incoming Messages appear on Forwarding Message Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:13:42 GMT Message-Id: A user encounters this problem from time to time in version 3.89, 3.90, and 3.91. The user was forwarding a message and at the end of that message were messages apparently just hit her INBOX. These incoming messages looked as if they were appended to the forwarded message. When this happened yesterday, the user went ahead sending the forwarded message. The forwarded message was fine, i.e. the incoming messages were not in it. But, these incoming messages were not in the INBOX or any folder. They disappeared! It happened again this morning. This time, these incoming messages went with the forwarded message but they were correctly placed in the INBOX. Has anyone reported this problem before? Is there a fix? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:19:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23425; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:19:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02731; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02724; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2fUh-00008kC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 05:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) Subject: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Date: 2 Nov 1994 00:07:55 GMT Message-Id: <396l8r$kv8@inxs.ncren.net> I'm running UnixWare 1.1.2. Has anyone built pine3.91 from source on a UnixWare box yet? Thanks folks, Michael Diehn mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:19:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23443; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:19:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03068; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03062; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2SWS-00007fC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 15:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sui@ornl.gov (Shui Chang) Subject: sh: rcvAppleSingle: not found Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:36:44 GMT Message-Id: A Mac user tried to view some attachments (e.g. Apple resource fork files), he gets the following messages. By the way, we are running Pine3.91. [VIEWER Result: sh: rcvAppleSingle: not found] and [VIEWER Result: sh: shownonascii: not found] Any idea what needs to be done to resolve the problem? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:19:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23478; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:19:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01280; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01274; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:06:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2RWu-00007bC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 14:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cowley@hubble.sheridanc.on.ca (Paul Cowley) Subject: Corrupted Attachments Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 16:21:50 GMT I am having a strange thing happen to me and just know that there is someone on the Net with an answer. I am able to attach a Word Perfect file to an e-mail message and send it to a secretary here on the same campus but when I try to do the same thing to another of our campuses the attachment appears as if it had uunencoded. It is totally useless. Any thoughts on what the devil's going on. Frustrated in Brampton. Up thumb, Paul ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Paul Cowley, Instructor | paul.cowley@sheridanc.on.ca Interpreter Education Program | Sheridan College, Davis Campus | 905-875-4584 HOME Box 7500, McLaughlin Road | 905-874-4323 FAX Brampton, Ontario, L6V 1G6 | 905-459-7533 ext 5372 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23499; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01405; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01399; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2ZCC-000082C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: pine -f foldername Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 22:20:21 +0100 Message-Id: References: <38o739$se5@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> <395532$2ka@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I also find the pine -f folder option irritating since I would like > pine to read archival mail and news which is stored on a scratch > disk. I do like the pine -f folder behavior. I use pine -f $PWD/folder for reading mailboxes in the current directory. pine -f ./folder would be nicer. The use-current-dir option doesn't enable it, either. > pine -f -folder could default to reading the file folder in > the current directory. This seems logical. Perhaps it could search both places. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:08 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23505; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01114; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:01:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01108; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:01:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2iF0-00009DC; Wed, 2 Nov 94 08:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mea@utu.fi (Matti Aarnio) Subject: Re: Problem with Pine 3.91 & ISO-8859-1 Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:28:59 GMT mats@exodata.se (Mats Akerberg) writes: >Hi! > >I have pine 3.91, Solaris 2.3 (I use the precompiled one)! >And I have the following set > character-set = ISO-8859-1 > >When I get a MIME mail from a friend using some other mailer than >PINE. I can read all the nice 8 bit ISO characters. > >But when I do a REPLY to his mail, the characters in my quoting looks like >=E5 and so on. It is perfectly valid, your friend just needs MIME-compliant mail-client, PINE for example, to read it. >The header in his mail looks like: > >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >Is it a bug? Or did I miss something in my configuration? No, and you can't alter the behaviour without editing the source, and compiling.. PINE sends all 8-bit chars in Quoted-Printable format, that is "=HH". > Thanks > /Mats >-- > Mats Akerberg (mats@exodata.se) > Exo Data AB > Snail: Box 8312 S-163 08 Spanga Sweden > Phone: + 46 8 795 98 30 FAX: + 46 8 36 55 78 /Matti Aarnio From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:20 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23547; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01431; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01425; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2zYZ-0000A2C; Thu, 3 Nov 94 02:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penev@pisa.Rockefeller.edu (Penio Penev) Subject: Setting pine-3.91 for IMAP without pre-authentication Message-Id: <1994Nov2.134008.18722@rockyd> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 94 13:40:08 EST I have started using the IMAP access method with pine-3.91 both under Unix and Winsock. While from Unix I use the pre-authentication, I want to specify the password each time I use it from my PC. The problem is, that PC_Pine never asks me about an username and a password. And it tells me, that access is denied, when I try to expand the folder. BTW, the Unix version also denied me access without asking me anything, until I turned rsh access on. I have read both the tech notes and the README files, as well as all help of variables and config options, but I didn't see where is this documented. So, my question is "How to use IMAP non-pre-authentication access from PC_Pine?" -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23553; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02788; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02782; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:59:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2HhE-000079C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 03:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nick Pikarsky Subject: Help, pc-pine 3.91b(w) where to config time zone info? Date: Fri, 28 Oct 1994 14:39:06 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help, I am using pc-pine windows version on a 486 computer using dec pathworks v5.0a (tcp/ip) transport with the dec version of winsock. The imap and smtp host are dec ultrix machine running v4.1 of ultrix and v3.91 of pine. I have two problems, they are as follows: 1. the header time indicates PDT as the time zone of the mail origination time. 2. when I compose a message and try to send the message on pc-pine the program will just sit there and seem to hang with the message sending mail at the bottom of screen, I will then open another network task (vt320 emulator) that use telnet and boom the mail will be sent.. Any help will be helpfull... Thanks, Nick Pikarsky pikarsky@maniac.med.miami.edu p.s. I have yet to see v3.91 workin for vax/vms system I tried to build it but alas it did not work from the supplied tar source on cac... I have built and am using v3.89 from Israel, but it will not allow for attachments on the version that I have, if anyone knows of a more update version please let me know. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23609; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02872; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:01:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from c700-1.sm.dsi.unimi.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02866; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:01:19 -0800 Received: by pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA05997; Thu, 3 Nov 94 19:00:54 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:00:52 +0100 (MET) From: "Michele \"BaNzO\" Zamboni" X-Sender: zamboni@c700-1.sm.dsi.unimi.it To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: empty folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello ! I am using PINE 3.91 (I love it!) and I have a problem. Is there a way to know if a mail or news folder is empty before entering it ? Thanx for your help ! BaNzO =========================================================================== = NickName : Michele "BaNzO" Zamboni = Home Address : = = E-Mail: zamboni@ghost.dsi.unimi.it = Via Moretto da Brescia 21 = = Computer Science Departement Univ. of Milan = 20133 Milano Italy = = URL : http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/zamboni/home.html = =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:20:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23617; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:20:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03177; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03169; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Z2l-00007zC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Help with Pine Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:51:13 GMT Message-Id: References: arice@dorsai.org wrote: : I have this problem with pine, and it's been going since day one, quite a : long time. : When I try going into the SENT-MAIL folder I get this message : Opening "Sent Mail" .... : and a second later I get this message: : Permision denied: mail/sent mail : and it does not let me get into this folder. Well, is there a directory named mail already? What are its permissions? Or is there a file named mail already there? If the latter, then certainly Pine can't make a folder there. Sorry to ask the obvious questions first, but there might be gold in them thar directories. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:21:34 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23726; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:21:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03218; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03207; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r30TI-0000A3C; Thu, 3 Nov 94 03:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Saving Outgoing Mail Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:25:22 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <38ram5$i6n@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> On 28 Oct 1994, Doug McIntyre wrote: > As a Help Desk consultant, I've recieved the following message > > > My other message is in reference to the fact that after sending a message > > to someone that I want to save my copy in a specific folder, right now, I > > have to go into the sent mail folder, select the message and then save > > it to the desired folder. This is, in my opinion an unnecessary hastle. > > Does any one have a "slicker" way to save sent mail into differing folders? Three: a) Set up an alias. A little known feature of 3.90/3.91 is that there is a 4th field in each alias which is precisely the default Fcc: for that alias, so each persons mail will go to the right place. b) Using Setup Config set the default-composer-headers to include fcc, then the standard fcc is displayed when composing and can be overwritten to whatever is required (^K then new value) c) without either of those: when composing and in the headers type ^R (Rich Headers) upon which the fcc will be displayed; over write it with desired value. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:22:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23810; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:22:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03205; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03199; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2ZZH-000088C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colemand@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca (Debbie Coleman) Subject: Taking addresses and adding them to a list Date: 1 Nov 1994 12:37:42 -0500 Message-Id: <395ud6$gmu@mcmail.cis.McMaster.CA> I think there should be a way to take an address from a received mail message and add it to a list you have in your address book. This would be particularly handy if you had a whole bunch of people from different hosts as it is a pain to type all those names in. By the way, I am running pine 3.89. Is this fixed in later versions? Right now, you can add a single address to your addres book but not add an address to a list. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deb Coleman E-Mail Address: McMaster University colemand@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:23:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23826; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:23:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03189; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03183; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2ZCS-000083C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: How to force pine-3.91 to see that new mail has arrived? Date: Tue, 01 Nov 1994 22:23:28 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have a biff that shows that new mail has arrived, but while I'm in > pine, pine doesn't know it cause 2.5 minutes have not yet elapsed. > Result is that I end up having to get out and back into pine to force > the new mail to be seen. Any keystroke to make it happen on the fly? Control-L on the Index Screen. I'd junk xbiff. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:24:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23948; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:24:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01397; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01389; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:08:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Yyz-00007yC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP and rsh Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 20:16:36 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <396npg$2g0@teal.ece.jhu.edu> On 1 Nov 1994, Mark L. Chang wrote: > Currently, the machine that I want to access via the IMAPd daemon does not > allow rsh access (rlogin type) because the sysadmin sees it as a security > hole too big to justify. > > Any way around this? If you use an explicit port specification, Pine will not try rsh access. IMAP is normally on port 143. If your server is called imap.foo.edu, try: {imap.foo.edu:143}inbox ^^^^ the :143 is the ``use port 143'' specifier > Also... I've got my own machine set up, but I didn't configure IMAPd for > it when installing pine... is there an easy way to do this and does the > archive contain sample imapd.conf files? The file imap/README documents how to set up an IMAP server, as does the Pine technical notes. Do not use the imapd.conf capability. This is evil, wicked, black magic, and sorcerer's apprentices who play with it will end up fighting a horde of water-bucket carrying brooms flooding the castle. ;-) In all seriousness, these files are used for special experimental purposes at UW to override the normal behavior of imapd. There are several highly undocumented and bizarre side effects that occur when you change these settings from their standard positions. The form, and function, of any of these is subject to change from version to version without notice. It is likely that if you depend upon anything done by this files you will be very unhappy when you install the next version. imapd automatically configures itself for proper operation without any configuration file. If you use imapd.conf without having an intimate understanding of what is going on in the source code, you're almost certainly going to break both imapd and Pine on that system. I've been bit a few times myself (testing a particular experiment and forgetting to delete it afterwards), and I wrote it! ;-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:25:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23989; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:25:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03197; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03191; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Znq-000089C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 23:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to I save the whole folder? Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 14:09:50 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine stores folders as text files, so you can just download the whole file. Look in your mail (or Mail) directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 1 Nov 1994 jbollow@netcom.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 1 NOV 1994 16:48:01 GMT > From: jbollow@netcom.com > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: How to I save the whole folder? > > Hi. Quick question. > > November just arrived and now I have another folder in Pine. It's the > mail that I sent in October. Is there any way to export that whole > folder (rather than saving each file individually)? I would like to put > it all onto a disk (or two), rather than leaving it all at Netcom. > > Thanks! > -- > ---jeff--- > jbollow@netcom.com > E-mail read and answered daily. > If you get no response within 48 hours, please resend your e-mail. > One of these days, e-mail will become as reliable as it is efficient. > ...Well, I can always HOPE, can't I? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:25:14 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24010; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:25:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01413; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01407; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2ZJx-000086C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Corrupted Attachments Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:35:29 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > I am able to attach a Word Perfect file to an e-mail message and send it > to a secretary here on the same campus but when I try to do the same thing > to another of our campuses the attachment appears as if it had uunencoded. This is explained in Pine's m)ain ?)help text. The recipient at the other site uses an older mail reader that doesn't conform to the MIME standard. Tell them to use one of the products listed in the FAQ of comp.mail.mime. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:26:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24073; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:26:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01423; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01417; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2ZZ1-000087C; Tue, 1 Nov 94 22:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: sh: rcvAppleSingle: not found Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 22:47:10 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > A Mac user tried to view some attachments (e.g. Apple resource fork > files), he gets the following messages. > [VIEWER Result: sh: rcvAppleSingle: not found] and > [VIEWER Result: sh: shownonascii: not found] > Any idea what needs to be done to resolve the problem? The mailcap file needs to be tailored for your environment. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:28:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24118; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:28:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01514; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:11:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01508; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:11:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r35me-0000AbC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: beginning of messages/parsing Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 21:01:08 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9411021522.AA27784@micronet.wcu.edu> On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, Patti Johnson wrote: > On my old OS (SCO Xenix), I could process a mail file with one of my own > apps - I knew that messages begin with "From ". Knowing this, I could break > a mail file down to its individual messages and work with them from there. > > Then, I moved to my Sun/Solaris 2.3 box and found that that is no longer true. > I thought the problem was mine until I received a couple of messages that > included several imbedded "From "'s - they were majordomo list logs. Well, > mailx could tell that there was a total of 3 messages, where the messages > included many other messaages. Pine, on the other hand could not - and parsed > them out as several smaller messages. > > What's the deal on mailbox parsing? How can I tell where one message begins > and one ends? Should I cross post this message to another list that discusses > Sun or are others of you finding the same "problem"? This is likely to be a Frequently Asked Question. So, without further ado...: Content-Length Considered Harmful or Fear and Loathing in the Unix Mail File Header Mark Crispin, UW-NDC 2 November 1995 INTRODUCTION: The UNIX mbox format was delimited by lines of the form From
for example: From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01:52 1994 Any line in the message text in that format has to be escaped in some way, usually by prefixing it with a ">" character: >From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01:52 1994 Some software quotes all lines that began with "From ": >From the data above, you can see the blurdybloop of the garply... although this is not necessary since such lines are obviously not the start of a new message. There are variations. Not all systems include the seconds: From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01 1994 Some systems have a symbolic timezone (e.g. "PST") before the year: From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01 PST 1994 Other systems have a numeric timezone after the year: From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01:52 1994 -0800 Some systems have an additional field that says "remote from ": From blurdybloop@foo.com Wed Nov 2 20:01:52 1994 -0800 remote from foo Pine supports 20 possible variations in all. And all was more or less joy and light. Or at least begrudged acceptance and enough to see your hand in front of your face. LET'S FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKE: Certain individuals at unnamed organizations [one used to be the US telephone monopoly, the other a large workstation vendor whose name used to mean Stanford University Network] decided to "improve" the format of UNIX mail files. These individuals felt that it was "inefficient" to look for lines that begin with "From ". They invented a Content-Length: header line, which contained a byte count of the number of text bytes after the header. This meant, in theory, after reaching the blank line that separates the message text from the message body, you could do an fseek() to move that many bytes forward. WHY IT'S BROKE: There were problems with this notion. 1) Stdio does not guarantee that the numbers used by fseek() are really bytes from the start of the file. So the "efficient" algorithm was by definition non-portable. 2) This header line was written by the originator of the message. If the message was modified in transit (e.g. through a gateway that converts spaces to tabs, deletes trailing spaces, etc.), the size count would be messed up. 3) Mischievious users could messages with bogus Content-Length values to confuse your mail reader. 4) There are differences between UNIX newline (a single byte \012) and Internet newline (a two byte \015\012), with resultant impact on message text lengths. 5) One of the benefits of the UNIX mailbox format was that you could run a text editor on the file without damaging its subsequent usability with your mail reader. Size-count based mailbox formats break this ability. 6) One of the benefits of a size-count mailbox format is to be able to find the next message quickly, even if you can not edit it with an editor. But because the Content-Length: header line could only be used as an estimate, you end up not only having to scan the header for this header line but then hunting around in the mailbox at about the appropriate point for the next message. This requires a lot of clever code and ends up not saving much at all. 7) It is possible to do fast block searches that are much faster than character-at-a-time searches. Pine does a very basic form of fast search (that is nonetheless faster than the character-at-a-time search). But you can't use such searches effectively if you have to stop and do header parsing, or have to backtrack. 8) It forces the mail reader to parse the message header just to find the next message. So, mail readers that try to save time by deferring message header parsing lose the startup time advantage. 9) Even when things work right, we weren't talking big savings here: less than 1/1000 of a second of CPU time per typical message, somewhat more for the Multi-Megabyte MIMEgram From Hell. But, you have to subtract the cost of doing a message header parse for every message (to find the Content-Length) which previously was unnecessary. Bottom line: Content-Length combines the disadvantages of the UNIX mailbox format (slow to find the next message) and a size-count format (can't edit reliably) while retaining the advantages of neither. It can have some performance benefits, but also entails performance costs. Software which tries to support it takes a performance hit on *all* systems, even those which don't use it. Finally, it has reliability and robustness costs. WHERE WE STAND IN THE RESULTING FETID BOG: There are individuals who are fans of Content-Length format, and loudly evangelize its cause. People with more experience shudder at the thought. We on the Pine team fall into the latter category; if we tried to support Content-Length, we'd slow down mail file reading for *all* users, and it would make Pine less reliable and more vulnerable to the antics of mischievious individuals. So, we decline to do so. Although the above-named Silicon Valley workstation vendor is chiefly responsible for distributing software that inflicts Content-Length upon the email world, many internal users at that vendor avoid it like the plague. They replace the offending software with traditional format software ("do what we say, not what we do"). Many of this vendor's customers do likewise ("we'll do what you do, not what you say"). We recommend this course of action as well. WHAT YOU CAN DO TO ESCAPE THE SWAMP: If sendmail is your mailer, the sendmail.cf file usually has an entry that identifies the program that actually writes mail files. Typically, it is /bin/mail. You can get a copy of our tools sendit or tmail (sendit is more traditional, tmail is mostly for wizards only) from our FTP server (ftp.cac.washington.edu), install it, and have sendmail point to that tool instead. Sendit is smart enough to recognize that it only needs to insert the nasty ">" prefix in front of lines that are 100% in start-of-message header format, and otherwise ignores lines that start with "From ". This cures 99% of user complaints, and helps preserve a fast and reliable Pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:31:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24281; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:31:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01669; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peach.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01663; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:17:00 -0800 Received: by peach.wustl.edu (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA01163; Thu, 3 Nov 94 12:14:26 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 12:14:25 -0600 (CST) From: A&S NeXT Lab Consultant X-Sender: fruitaid@peach To: REM-Rocks Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: sorting in the sent-mail folder In-Reply-To: <9411030104.AA24697@astro.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Right! That would be the best way for the sent-mail folder: by Addressed-To: Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 Washington University in St. Louis (314) 935-4353 fruitaid@artsci.wustl.edu On Wed, 2 Nov 1994, REM-Rocks wrote: > In this article A&S NeXT Lab Consultant wrote: > > + Do any of you know if there's a way to sort the sent-mail folder > + by sender? > > I always get confused with From: and Sender: > So you want to sort it by the "Addressed-To" ? > > -- > o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ > o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | > .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | > >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ > _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` > ======================================================================== > Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:31:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24293; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:31:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03622; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:24:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03612; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:24:20 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26198; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:24:19 -0800 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: inbox remote mail server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 31 Oct 1994, David L Miller wrote: > inbox-path={werple.apana.org.au} > This will *usually* work, but there are some cases where omitting the special name "inbox" after the host specification will cause problems, so it is safer to say: inbox-path={werple.apana.org.au}inbox -teg > On 31 Oct 1994, Nick Allan wrote: > > > Date: 31 OCT 1994 18:11:41 +1100 > > From: Nick Allan > > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > > Subject: inbox remote mail server > > > > Hello everyone > > > > I connect to the site that holds my email via a slip connection, this > > connection is dialup. > > I would like pine on my home system to use the inbox on the mail system. > > I know you are supposed to use the in-box-path in your .pinerc file but > > can someone tell me what the format of this is supposed to look like > > eg the host is werple.apana.org.au and my mail file on this host is > > /var/mail/guardian > > > > Thanks for any assistance. > > > > > > -- > > Regards Nick > > > > Guardian@werple.apana.org.au > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 10:32:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24323; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:32:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03231; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03221; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r32zK-00000EC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 06:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krman@krman.peinet.pe.ca. (Kevin MacRae) Subject: Re: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Date: 2 Nov 1994 22:03:29 GMT Message-Id: <3992bh$nlm@bud.peinet.pe.ca> References: <396l8r$kv8@inxs.ncren.net> <396olo$lma@inxs.ncren.net> In article <396olo$lma@inxs.ncren.net>, mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) writes: |> |> Following up on my own post with more info... |> |> Michael J. Diehn (mike) (mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu) wrote: |> : I'm running UnixWare 1.1.2. Has anyone built pine3.91 from source |> : on a UnixWare box yet? |> |> I tried to build pine using the command "build sv4" |> The pico, imapd and mtest parts were built, but the make died during the |> pine build with the following error message. |> |> cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c |> "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 71: identifier redeclared: system |> "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 169: identifier redeclared: rename I had the same problem. It stems from including stdio.h fix edit /usr/include/stdlib.h BEFORE the line extern int system(con char *); type #if !defined(_STDIO_H) then after the extern int system.... line type #endif Repeat for unistd.h except find the line rename Novell, Is this a bug in the header? |> "addrbook.c", line 7465: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast |> *** Error code 1 (bu21) |> |> make: fatal error. |> |> Does anyone know how to modify the sv4 makefile for use with unixware? |> |> Again, |> : Thanks folks, |> : Michael Diehn |> : mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu -- ******************************************************************************* * Kevin MacRae Phone (902) 566-3198 * * Owner/Operator FAX (902) 566-3423 * * K & R Management Internet krman@peinet.pe.ca * ******************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 12:13:03 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00267; Thu, 3 Nov 94 12:13:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01000; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00994; Thu, 3 Nov 94 09:58:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r2Gf2-00006wC; Tue, 1 Nov 94 02:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: Re: pine -f foldername Date: 1 Nov 1994 10:25:38 GMT Message-Id: <395532$2ka@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <38o739$se5@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> I also find the pine -f folder option irritating since I would like pine to read archival mail and news which is stored on a scratch disk. For this purpose I cd to the relevant directory and use elm -f folder. Standard mail and elm follows the rules -f [filename] Read messages from filename instead of system mailbox. If no filename is specified, the mbox is used. -f +folder Use the file folder in the folder directory (same as the folder command). The name of this directory is listed in the folder vari- able. Since pine may not want to revert to this, maybe pine -f -folder could default to reading the file folder in the current directory. This seems logical. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 13:27:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03444; Thu, 3 Nov 94 13:27:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01449; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01433; Thu, 3 Nov 94 10:09:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r31du-0000A4C; Thu, 3 Nov 94 04:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Signature and Finger FAQ Date: 3 Nov 1994 12:29:58 GMT Message-Id: Archive-name: signature_finger_faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 31 October 1994 _____________________________________________________ _________| |_________ \ | SIGNATURE AND FINGER FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS | / \ | Telling the World Who You Are | / \ | | / \ | | / / | Copyright (c) 1994 Nancy McGough | \ / | | \ / |_____________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 About this Article ... 0.1 Copyright Notice ... 0.2 Acknowledgements ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article 1.0 Automatic Signature - Basic Unix Instructions ... 1.1 Pine 3.90 and Above ... 1.2 Pine 3.89 and Below ... 1.3 Elm ... 1.4 Mail ... 1.5 Emacs Mail Mode ... 1.6 MH and Emacs MH-E ... 1.7 NN ... 1.8 GNUS ... 1.9 Troubleshooting Signature Problems 2.0 Finger - Basic Unix Instructions ... 2.1 URLs for Fingering ... 2.2 Changing Your Default Finger Info: chfn ... 2.3 Adding More to Your Finger Info: .plan & .project ... 2.4 Finding Out Who Fingers You ... 2.5 Backfinger Script ... 2.6 Interesting Places to Finger 3.0 Putting Ascii Art in your Signature and Finger Files 4.0 Organization Header ... 4.1 Tin and the RN Family ... 4.2 Pine 3.90 and Above ... 4.3 Elm ... 4.4 NN 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 0.0 About this Article This article describes these three ways to tell people on the Internet more about yourself: * Signature file automatically included in your mail and news messages * Finger information displayed when people finger you * Organization line in your mail and news headers ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.1 Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 1994 by Nancy McGough. This collection of articles is first published in 1994 and is copyrighted by Nancy McGough (except subjects 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.8, and 2.5 which are Copyright (c) 1994 by the authors named in the sections). No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the authors. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.2 Acknowledgements + means someone who is new since the last time I posted this FAQ (i.e., since 16 September 1994). Thanks to these people who contributed digest items: Jym Dyer Mike Northam + Janet Rosenbaum Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: + Jeff Blaine Stephen Cristol + Terry Gray + Sven Guckes + Mary McGough David L Miller + Skip Montanaro David W. Tamkin Sid Weinstein Thanks to these people who've written documents, programs, or asii art that are pointed to in this article. (This list is not complete right now....) + Bob Allison + Jorn Barger + Piero Serini + Doug Stevenson + Bill Wohler + Scott A. Yanoff Special thanks to: + Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation Term Meaning ==== ======= FTP File Transfer Protocol HTML HyperText Markup Language HTTP HyperText Transport Protocol RFC Internet Request For Comments Document URL Uniform Resource Locator ^x Hold down the Ctrl key and the x key at the same time ~ your home directory $HOME (see * below) * In this article I use ~ (tilde) to mean your home directory. Note that some shells, like the Bourne shell (sh) and Bourne-again shell (bash), do not understand the tilde notation so you will need to use $HOME instead. You can always get to your home directory by typing ``cd''. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article If this article is over two months old then there is probably an updated version of it in all the usual archives. Please get the latest version from one of these places: World Wide Web (the nicest format for online reading!): http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/signature_finger_faq ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, WinWeb, or Cello. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in this article * to a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to a manual page This and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers can be accessed through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:00:60 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article If you are reading the plain text version (i.e., not the hypertext version) of this FAQ it is in RFC1153 digest format which means each subject is formatted as a mini mail message with its own Date, From, and Subject (and sometimes Followup-To) headers. Some newsreaders and mailers make it really easy to jump to a subject in an article that is in digest format. Here are instruction for some newsreaders: * NN's default is to split a digest and present each digest item on the menu. If you have changed the default by putting ``set split off'' in your ~/.nn/init file then you can split a digested article by typing G% while viewing it. This will present each digest item on a submenu. You can then read, followup-to, save, print, etc. individual digest items. * In trn (and its relatives like rn and strn) you can type ^g (Ctrl key and g key pressed simultaneously) to skip to the next line that begins with "Subject: " * In emacs GNUS, C-c C-n will skip to the next digest article (C-C C-p will go back to the previous digest article). If your newsreader or mailer does not have a built-in command that allows you to easily read a digest you can pipe the article to ``formail -ds'' which will split the article into separate mail messages, and then you can use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders) to read the folder. For example, here's what you would do in Tin while viewing the article: Type... In order to... ------- -------------- | Pipe a Specify the article is to be piped formail -ds >> ~/Folders/faq.split Split the digest into individual messages and put them in a file named ~/Folders/faq.split. (Replace ~/Folders with your folder directory.) pine -if ~/Folders/faq.split Use Pine to read the newly created folder. For more information see the formail(1) and procmail(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 1.0 Automatic Signature - Basic Unix Instructions Q: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my news articles and mail messages? A: The answer depends on your newsreader and mailer but the following procedure works for many Unix newsreaders and mailers. Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Change to your home directory (i.e., $HOME or ~) pico .signature Use the pico editor to create a .signature file. (Replace "pico" with another editor if you like.) Note that most systems require your sig to be <= 4 lines. And it's good netiquette to make it as short as possible. In Pico use ^x to exit and answer y when asked if you want to save your changes. chmod 644 .signature Make .signature readable by all. ls -l .signature Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- chmod +x . Make home directory searchable by all. ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). ls -la . Check permission of files in home dir. If any are world or group writable (?????w??w?) you'll probably want to change this by doing a "chmod go-w FileName". For more info on changing permissions see chmod man pages. For many newsreaders and mailers this is all you need to do to set up your signature. For example the default behaviour of tin(1) and the rn family of tools - rn(1), trn(1), strn(1), & Pnews(1) - is to automatically append ~/.signature, if it exists. If you use Pine, Elm, Mail, Emacs Mail Mode, MH, NN, or GNUS follow the additional instructions described below. After you've set everything up use your mailer to mail a test message to yourself, and your newsreader and/or news poster (such as nnpost or Pnews) to post an article to a test newsgroup (use a local newsgroup and Distribution set to ``local'' to save bandwidth). Note that with many newsreaders and mailers you will not see your signature while you are composing a message - it will be automaticlally appended when you send the message. Note also that many systems add a line that contains ``-- '' to the top of your sig. This is used by programs that automatically deal with mail or news to identify the start of the signature. If you have a problem with your sig see section 1.9 on Troubleshooting. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 1.1 Pine 3.90 and Above Followup-To: comp.mail.pine The default for Pine 3.90 and above is to automatically append .signature (if it exists) to your messages. Many people like to set the signature-at-bottom variable which will put your signature below both your message and the message you are replying to (if you've included it). Note that if you are forwarding a message your signature will be put below the message that you write but above the forwarded message. To change Pine's signature features: 1. From the Main Menu type s for Setup 2. Type c for Configuration 3. To change the value of the signature-at-bottom feature: a) Space bar and arrow down to the signature-at-bottom variable b) Type x to set/unset this variable. 4. To change the name of your signature file: a) Arrow down to the signature-file line b) Type c for Change Value c) Type the path and name of the file you want to use for your signature. Note that ~ can be used for your $HOME directory. SEE ALSO ======== Pine FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Pine Manual: pine(1) Pine Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 1.2 Pine 3.89 and Below Followup-To: comp.mail.pine In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.0 above, users of Pine 3.89 often want to edit their ~/.pinerc file so that it contains the following: feature-list=signature-at-bottom If you want more than one feature in your feature-list then they need to be comma separated like this: feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom Note that Pine's default is to use ~/.signature for your signature so you only need to edit the following line if you are using a different file. signature-file= SEE ALSO ======== Pine FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Pine Manual: pine(1) Pine Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 1.3 Elm Followup-To: comp.mail.elm In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.0 above, users of Elm should edit their ~/.elm/elmrc file so that it contains the following: signature = ~/.signature sigdashes = ON Remember to delete any # characters before any variables you want to set. The defaults are indicated in comment lines starting with ###. Note that if you want to have a different signature for local mail (i.e., addresses that don't contain a ! or @) then you can use the localsignature and remotesignature variables instead of the signature variable (which specifies one sig for all mail). SEE ALSO ======== Elm FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Elm Manual: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:40 GMT From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... 1.4 Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.misc By Jym Dyer, 1 April 1994 =o= Regular Unix "Mail" and "mail" don't have an automatic signature mechanism. Many people who normally use a more deluxe mail utility occasionally find themselves resorting to using one of these, in which case all you need to know is this command: ~r $HOME/.signature This simply tells Mail to include the text of the your signature file. =o= If you use Mail on a regular basis you may want to use the semi-automatic signature feature. When you're done typing your message, you append a signature with this command: ~a =o= In order for this to work, though, you need to set the "sign" mail variable. There are two ways to implement this variable. The first is to set it in a $HOME/.mailrc file with a command like this: set sign="Jym Dyer " If your signature is more than one line long, you can use the C language string syntax, as in these examples: set sign="Jym Dyer\n" -or- set sign="Jym Dyer\ \n" =o= The disadvantage of doing this in your .mailrc file is that you now have to maintain the text of your signature in two places. Another approach that avoids this problem is to set "sign" as an environment variable in your shell startup script. For a Bourne-compatible shell, this is done with this command: sign="`cat $HOME/.signature`" export sign For a C-shell, do this: setenv sign "`cat $HOME/.signature`" SEE ALSO ======== Manual pages: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:50 GMT From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... 1.5 Emacs Mail Mode By Jym Dyer, 1 April 1994 =o= Emacs Mail Mode is usually invoked with the "mail" or "mail-other-window" commands (bound, respectively, to the "C-x m" and "C-x 4 m" keys by default). It is also invoked from various Emacs mail and news packages. =o= Mail Mode provides a "mail-signature" command to append the contents of your signature file to the end of your mail message. This command is bound to "C-c C-w" by default, so to insert the signature before mailing, simply type "C-c "C-w". =o= If you'd prefer to have your signature automatically appended to the end of your mail message, the "mail-signature" command can be put into your "mail-setup-hook" variable in your $HOME/.emacs file, as in this example: (setq mail-setup-hook (function (lambda () (mail-signature) ))) This will put the signature in your mail message buffer. SEE ALSO ======== FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:60 GMT From: Jym Dyer Subject: ... 1.6 MH and Emacs MH-E Followup-To: comp.mail.mh By Jym Dyer, 1 April 1994 =o= MH doesn't have an automatic signature mechanism, but it is so configurable that there are a number of different ways to implement one. Check the periodic "MH Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) with Answers" posting for details. =o= CAVEAT: If you use the environment variable SIGNATURE to point to your signature file, MH will use it not as a signature, but as your "fullname". Even worse, if your version of MH was built with the "UCI" option and you *don't* use the environment variable SIGNATURE to point to another file, MH will use the $HOME/.signature file for this purpose! To see if your version of MH has this behavior, enter this command: % send -help And look for the string "[UCI]" in the output. =o= There's an Emacs interface to MH, called MH-E. It has its own signature mechanism, which is invoked with the "mh-insert- signature" command (bound to the "C-c C-s" keys by default). =o= This will insert the file $HOME/.signature file by default. If your signature file has another name (e.g., to avoid its being used by an MH build with the "UCI" option), you can set the "mh-signature-file-name" variable to refer to a different file. SEE ALSO ======== MH FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html MH Manual: mh(1) MH Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:70 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 1.7 NN Followup-To: news.software.nn In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.0 above, users of NN should edit their ~/.nn/init file so that it contains the following: set query-signature off set append-signature-mail on set append-signature-post offf Note that the reason that you need to ``set append-signature-post off'' is that the news posting software (usually inews) automatically appends ~/.signature if it exists. If you ``set append-signature-post on'' then both nn and inews append your sig and you'll send out two identical sigs every time. SEE ALSO ======== FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Manual: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:80 GMT From: Mike Northam Subject: ... 1.8 GNUS Followup-To: gnu.emacs.gnus Copyright (c) 1994 Mike Northam In addition to the basic signature instructions in 1.0 above, users of GNUS should verify that the value of the variable gnus-signature-file points to the right place. If you're in emacs, you can do so by evaluating the following expression: gnus-signature-file ^ put your cursor here and type C-x C-e you should see "~/.signature" in the echo area. If not, edit your $HOME/.emacs file and add the following: (setq gnus-signature-file "~/.signature")) Then load your $HOME/.emacs file or merely restart emacs and the variable should be set correctly. SEE ALSO ======== FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html Newsgroup: gnu.emacs.gnus ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:01:90 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 1.9 Troubleshooting Signature Problems A common problem people have with .signature (and .plan, .project, and .forward ) files is that the permissions are not set correctly. Check to make sure that you have set the permissions as instructed in 1.0 above. If you are still having problems read the man pages for your newsreader, news poster, or mailer and search for the string "signature". There may be a variable you need to set in order for the ~/.signature to be appended. Type... In order to... ------- -------------- man CommandName |less Open man pages for CommandName (elm, pine, nn, tin trn, Pnews, etc.) and pipe through less. If your system doesn't have less replace it with "more". /signature Search for first occurrence of "signature". n Search for next occurrence of "signature". Repeat the search until you find the appropriate section of the manual. u Page up half a screen. (This works in less but not in more.) [spacebar] Page down a screen. (This works in both less and more.) For more information on reading manual pages see the man(1), less(1), and/or more(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 2.0 Finger - Basic Unix Instructions People around the world can find out more about you by fingering you. This is done by typing the following at a Unix prompt: finger YourUserID@Your.Fully.Qualified.Domain.Name On some systems finger is linked to f so the following also works: f YourUserID@Your.Fully.Qualified.Domain.Name Finger displays different information on different systems. Often it will display your full name, your default shell, when your were last logged on, and your ~/.plan and ~/.project files. If you finger someone and the display takes more than one page you can pipe the output through less (or more if you don't have less). For example to find out about Halcyon, my Internet service provider, type: finger info@halcyon.com |less ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.1 URLs for Fingering In addition to using the finger or f command you can finger people through a Web browser. The following is a form that Doug Stevenson created: http://www.mps.ohio-state.edu/cgi-bin/finger.pl You can also use this URL: gopher://fully.qualified.domain.name:79/0userid ^ Note: 0 precedes the userid For example you can finger my Internet service provider with this URL: gopher://halcyon.com:79/0info ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.2 Changing Your Default Finger Info: chfn On many Unix systems you can change some of your default information, such as your full name, by typing the following at your Unix prompt: chfn If chfn is not available try "passwd -f". If neither of these are available then you will need to contact your system administrator and ask him/her to change your full name, etc. After you have changed your information check that they are in place by fingering yourself. Also to see a different display of your information type the following at your Unix prompt: finger This displays a one line description of everyone currently logged on your system. For more information see the chfn(1), passwd(1), and finger(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.3 Adding More to Your Finger Info: .plan & .project Your ~/.project and ~/.plan files, if they exist, are displayed when you are fingered. Setting these up is essentially the same as setting up a ~/.signature file (described in 1.0 above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Change to your home directory. pico .plan Use the pico editor to create a .plan file. (Replace "pico" with another editor if you like.) chmod 644 .plan Make .plan readable by all. ls -l .plan Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- chmod +x . Make home directory searchable by all. ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x. The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each. ls -la . Check permission of files in home dir. If any are world or group writable (?????w??w?) you'll probably want to change this by doing a "chmod go-w FileName". For more info on changing permissions see chmod man pages. If you want a .project file follow the same procedure. Note that only the first line of the .project is displayed (so you might as well only make it one line!). To test your changes finger yourself by type each of the following at your Unix prompt: finger YourUserID finger YourUserID@Your.Fully.Qualified.Domain.Name To ensure that people from other systems can finger you should ask someone who's not on your system to finger you too. ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.4 Finding Out Who Fingers You This is complicated - and sometimes impossible - to setup. For details see the news.answers article ``Unix - Frequently Asked Questions (4/7) [Frequent posting]'', subject ``4.9) How do I keep track of people who are fingering me?'' This article is archived in a number of places including these two URLs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/unix-faq/faq/part4/faq-doc-9.html ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/unix-faq/faq/part4 One easy thing that you can do to see if anyone has fingered you is type the following at your Unix prompt: ls -lu $HOME/.plan This tells you the last time someone accessed your .plan, but it doesn't tell you who it was. I have this in my .login because it's interesting to see when the last time someone was checking on me! [Note that under AFS (Andrew File System, a distributed filesystem), ls -lu $HOME/.plan will not work due to the fact that AFS has no notion of ``atime'', or ``last accessed time''.] ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:50 GMT From: Janet Rosenbaum Subject: ... 2.5 Backfinger Script Copyright (c) 1994 Janet Rosenbaum There is a script available called, among other things, backfinger, planner, and finger_logger (flogger or frogger, for short). This script makes your plan into a named pipe (just think of this as a sort of pipe used with plumbing that opens out onto the screen of the person who is fingering you (fred)) so that when it is accessed, it looks for a program from which to get something to stick on fred's screen. The script is called when you are fingered. At that moment, it looks to the finger port of your unix machine and sees which machine fred is on, logs that machine's IP number and hostname, and the date. The script can then execute a command to spit a plan out on fred's screen. (One might get creative and write a program that generates random poetry or use the fortune program or just do "cat plan_file".) To make fred think you are really cool, it also tells him what machine he is fingering you from. Some caveats: -- This program must be running at all times on your system even when you are logged out. Leaving a background process like this annoys most sys admins to no end, especially on systems with high load. Do **not** run the program unless you are sure that you are allowed to run background processes like this. -- Also, if you decide you want to stop running this program, remove your .plan file as soon as you kill the process. If you do not do this, all finger processes for you will hang. -- This script only tells you the machine fred is fingering you from, not his actual username. It is nearly impossible to get this information except at sites with bad security. Given the above, I will distribute the script to those who can use it, mostly for educational reasons. I admit that I no longer run the program, since my two main accounts are on rather high-load systems. Nevertheless, I learned quite a lot from modifying these scripts and otherwise playing with these ideas. Here is the web site: http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~jrosen/scripts/logger.src I will also try to post this answer and the program to comp.sources.misc at least monthly for those without web access. (For those who have not figured out the web, try the program lynx if you are on a vt100 or vt220 type terminal. If you are on an xterm or hpterm, look for xmosaic.) Note: I am not the author of this program. The version I distribute is virtually identical to that distributed by Steve Franklin. Here are the real authors: Author: Tony Rems Modifications by Geoff Loker More modifications by Karen Bruner Even more modifications by Norman Franke More revisions by Steve Franklin Llamas and minor revision by The Blue One Enjoy! Janet ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:02:60 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.6 Interesting Places to Finger Scott Yanoff's "Updated Internet Services List" contains a number of interesting places to finger. If you access it through the following URL all the finger commands are links. http://www.uwm.edu/Mirror/inet.services.html ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:03:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 3.0 Putting Ascii Art in your Signature and Finger Files , \ / , / \ )\__/( / \ / \ (_\ /_) / \ ____/_____\__\@ @/___/_____\____ | |\../| | | \VV/ | | HAPPY HALLOWEEN! | |_________________________________| | /\ / \\ \ /\ | | / V )) V \ | |/ ` // ' \| Art by Jorn Barger ` V ' It is considered good netiquette to keep your signature to four lines or less. And many news posters, like inews, will not post an article that has a signature with more than four lines in it. So, put large pictures, your life story, etc. in your finger files or in your Web pages and point people to them in your signature. A good source of art for your signature and finger files is the ascii art FAQ which contains (among others) these topics: 9 Where can I find ASCII art? 22 How do I put an animation in my plan? 23 How do I make a sig? 24 How do I have my sig automatically added to my posts and email? The Ascii Art FAQ can be found at either of the following. (I think these aren't the same so you might want to look at both of them.) http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/faq.html http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/ascii-art-faq/faq.html One particularly good place to find ascii art is: http://gagme.wwa.com/~boba/scarecrow.html SEE ALSO ======== Newsgroups: rec.arts.ascii, alt.ascii-art, alt.binaries.pictures.ascii and alt.ascii-art.animation ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:04:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 4.0 Organization Header The Organization header in news and mail messages is another way you can tell people about yourself. It is an optional header described in section 2.2.8 of RFC1036, "Standard for Interchange of Usenet Messages." ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:04:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 4.1 Tin and the RN Family Followup-To: news.newusers.questions Tin and the rn family of tools (Pnews, rn, trn, strn) get information for the Organization header from the ORGANIZATION environment variable if it exists. In the csh or tcsh you can set this variable in your ~/.login with a line like this: setenv ORGANIZATION "Your Organization Name" After you edit your ~/.login you can establish the setting by either logging out and loggin back in or by typing the following at your Unix prompt: source ~/.login To check that the variable is set type: printenv After it is set, post a test message to a local test newsgroup with local distribution to check that the Organization header is correct. SEE ALSO ======== Manual Pages: tin(1), Pnews(1), rn(1), trn(1), strn(1) Newsgroup: news.newusers.questions ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:04:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 4.2 Pine 3.90 and Above Followup-To: comp.mail.pine In Pine 3.90 or above you set the Organization and other headers using the customized-hdrs variable. 1. From the Main Menu type s for Setup 2. Type c for Configuration 3. To change the value of the customized-hdrs variable: a) Space bar and arrow down to the customized-hdrs variable. b) Type a for Add Value c) At the prompt type: Organization: Your Organization Name Note that if you have set the ORGANIZATION environment variable (which is described in 4.1 above) you can type: Organization: $ORGANIZATION While reading a message that you've received you can view the Organization header and all the other headers by typing h. If h does not work you need to go to your configuration menu and set the enable-full-header-cmd variable. Note that the customized-hdrs variable is not available in Pine 3.89 and below. SEE ALSO ======== Pine FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Pine Manual: pine(1) Pine Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:04:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 4.3 Elm Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Use your editor to create a file named ~/.elm/elmheaders that contains any headers you'd like in your outgoing mail messages. For example, my ~/.elm/elmheaders file contains this one line: Organization: Infinite Ink, Seattle, WA, USA SEE ALSO ======== Elm FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Elm Manual: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:04:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 4.4 NN Followup-To: news.software.nn Use your editor to put the following lines in your ~/.nn/init file: set news-header Organization: Your Organization Name set mail-header Organization: Your Organization Name This will add the Organization header to both news and mail messages sent from NN. While reading messages with NN you can view the Organization line by adding O (the letter "oh") to your header-lines variable setting. I like the following setting: set header-lines AFOnWK*Y SEE ALSO ======== FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Manual: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn ------------------------------ Date: 31 Oct 1994 00:05:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to me at nancym@ii.com. If you are reading this with a viewer that understands the following URL you can use it to send me mail: mailto:nancym@ii.com End of signature_finger_faq Digest ********************************** -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough | http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < Infinite Ink | ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 3 15:35:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08617; Thu, 3 Nov 94 15:35:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09031; Thu, 3 Nov 94 15:28:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09025; Thu, 3 Nov 94 15:28:50 -0800 Received: (from tm1@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA29707; Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:34:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:34:21 -0500 (EST) From: Tin-Mala Subject: Upgrading to 3.91 -newbie Q To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is so basic that I hesitate to ask it on a listserv, but how does one get the update installed and running on a pc? We have a Pine update menu for 3.91 with instructions, and a PKUNZIP.exe. What file does one select for a Solaris2.3, and what does one do with it and the PKUNZIP *after* they've been saved to a pine folder? Help! * * Tin-Mala * * * * * * Tel: 202-994-8637 * I virtually live in cyberspace * Fax: 301-365-3666 * * E-mail: tm1@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 01:20:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24124; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:20:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19810; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:12:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19804; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:12:18 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <11381-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:09:31 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA22870; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:12:32 GMT Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 09:12:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Richard L. Hamilton" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine running wild when user's session disconnected In-Reply-To: <3979mu$ha7@romulus.ncsc.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, we've seen similar behaviour (a looping Pine) here on our SGI platforms. Interestingly, some sessions go into tight CPU burning loops, whilst others just sit clocking up about a seconf od CPU every eleapsed minute or so. I haven't managed to isolate what people did to get into that state. I have also had similar problems with imapd's, which may point the finger elsewhere as well/instead of the source you suggest. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-432767 On 2 Nov 1994, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > I've noticed pine processes associated with users whose sessions > ended with either a non-zero return code or a hangup signal running > wild, i.e. apparently looping to no particular end, and eating CPU time > (some hours after the login session had been terminated). > > I've got a wild guess that where it is looping is line 392 of > pine3.91/pine/ttyin.c, i.e.: > > if(errno == EINTR) > return(NO_OP_COMMAND); > > Now, since errno is *not* cleared by successful calls, there is currently > no way to know whether this test is being satisfied as a consequence of > the read() call on line 381, that is: > > res = read(STDIN_FD, &c, 1); > > If my wild guess is right, adding: > > errno = 0; > > *before* the read() call in line 381 should take care of it. > > Now for the bottom line: > > 1. has anyone had similar problems? > > 2. any comments on the possible explanation/fix? > > FYI, this is happening on a system running DG/UX ("./build d-g"). > And the printer problems are happening there too, not that I think > that relates to the problem I'm bringing up. > -- > I compute, therefore I am. > My opinions are strictly by own, and should not be construed to represent > anyone else. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 07:55:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03657; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:55:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23490; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23480; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3IJE-000021C; Thu, 3 Nov 94 22:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markstep@engin.umich.edu (Mark A. Stephan) Subject: pine 3.91 .addressbook problem Date: 3 Nov 1994 21:31:27 GMT Message-Id: <39bkrg$ms2@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I have had some problems as of late with pine 3.91 and it recognising my .addressbook We upgraded recently from pine v3.07 and everything worked fine. except now for some reason, i can't get into my .addressbook I can get into it using pine 3.07 just by typing "a" from the main menu. when i type "a" from pine 3.91 i don't get my addressbook...it just says "empty" The configurations that i have are: address-book = ~/.addressbook [X] expanded-view-of-addressbooks and that's it. my .addressbook is indeed at /home/markstep/.addressbook and that does show up when the "empty" addressbook shows up:: [Now in addressbook /home/markstep/.addressbook] any suggestions? desparately yours, mark -- Mark Stephan The University of Michigan markstep@engin.umich.edu computer engineering @chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu The U of M Solar Car Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 07:57:46 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03694; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:57:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23468; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23458; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3FP8-00000EC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 19:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with Pine 3.91 & ISO-8859-1 Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:40:10 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Use the "Report Bug" command to forward one of the problem messages to pine-bugs. Well take a look to see what the problem might be... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, Mats Akerberg wrote: > Date: Tue, 1 NOV 1994 15:56:04 GMT > From: Mats Akerberg > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Problem with Pine 3.91 & ISO-8859-1 > > Hi! > > I have pine 3.91, Solaris 2.3 (I use the precompiled one)! > > And I have the following set > > character-set = ISO-8859-1 > > When I get a MIME mail from a friend using some other mailer than > PINE. I can read all the nice 8 bit ISO characters. > > But when I do a REPLY to his mail, the characters in my quoting looks like > =E5 and so on. > > The header in his mail looks like: > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----- =_aaaaaaaaaa0" > > ------- =_aaaaaaaaaa0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Is it a bug? Or did I miss something in my configuration? > > Thanks > > /Mats > -- > Mats Akerberg (mats@exodata.se) > Exo Data AB > Snail: Box 8312 S-163 08 Spanga Sweden > Phone: + 46 8 795 98 30 FAX: + 46 8 36 55 78 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:03:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03929; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:03:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23476; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23470; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:46:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3I3r-000018C; Thu, 3 Nov 94 22:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .forward problem... Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 10:16:29 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: If the servers at A and B have IMAP services enabled, you can configure Pine to access the remote folder as a secondary INBOX (i.e. incoming-folder). Then you don't have to worry about the duplication of forwarding... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 1 Nov 1994, //arcus La// wrote: > Date: Tue, 1 NOV 1994 03:30:24 GMT > From: //arcus La// > Newgroups: comp.mail.elm, comp.mail.pine > Subject: .forward problem... > > Hello All, > > I have a simple problem. Currently I have 2 mail addresses, say A and B. > The problem is, how could I forward my incoming mails at A to B WITHOUT > deleting them at A? That is, I can still read at A? > Thanks! > -- > ----------------------- Repent, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn nigh! > Marcus Lam Wing Chuen > Internet: wclam@cs.cuhk.hk or maranatha@cuhk.hk > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew 4:17 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:03:48 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03966; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:03:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23524; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23518; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3J0s-00002GC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jal@summit.novell.com (J. A. Lind) Subject: Re: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Date: 3 Nov 1994 21:41:47 GMT Message-Id: <39bler$dro@bird.summit.novell.com> References: <396l8r$kv8@inxs.ncren.net> <396olo$lma@inxs.ncren.net> <3992bh$nlm@bud.peinet.pe.ca> Kevin MacRae (krman@krman.peinet.pe.ca) wrote: : In article <396olo$lma@inxs.ncren.net>, mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) writes: : |> <<< SNIP >>> : |> : |> cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SV4\" -c addrbook.c : |> "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 71: identifier redeclared: system : |> "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 169: identifier redeclared: rename : I had the same problem. It stems from including stdio.h : fix : edit /usr/include/stdlib.h : BEFORE the line : extern int system(con char *); : type : #if !defined(_STDIO_H) : then after the extern int system.... line : type : #endif : Repeat for unistd.h except find the line rename : Novell, : Is this a bug in the header? No, its not a bug in the header and your fix is incorrect. The problem is not that stdio.h and stdlib.h both have a (compatible) declaration for system(), but that if ANSI is not defined, one of Pine's headers has an incompatible declaration of system(). See the other postings on this today, or a posting I made in response to someone else about pine a week or two ago. Jeff Lind Novell, Inc. UNIX Systems Group jal@summit.novell.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:06:20 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04045; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:06:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23444; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:45:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23438; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:45:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3H3n-00000NC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 21:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruceb@efn.org (Bruce Berryhill) Subject: Re: How to I save the whole folder? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:49:57 GMT If you set enable-aggragate-command-set, in Setup Config, you get some more commands. ;-select, A-apply and one more. You can then ;-select all the messages you want to save to a file and A-apply E-export all the selected messages to a file. You lose all the headers this way, which can be good for a mailing list you just want to read. If you need the headers, just download the folder file. -- -bruceb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:06:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04088; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:06:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23620; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23614; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3Pzg-00003LC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 06:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Not quite Assume-slow-link Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:04:40 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I remember (at least I think I do) back when pine seemed to "know" whether it was being used over a modem or not and adjusted its "slow-link" setting accordingly. Never versions don't seem to do so anymore. I (and other less computer literate people in my group) call in on a modem as often as we check our mail on the terminal. Is there a way to get the newer versions of pine to check to se if we are logged on via a modem? I'm sure it can be done via a series of environent variables, csh resource files, etc., but I'd rather set up just one command for both environments. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:09:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04164; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:09:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23602; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23596; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3P7H-00003BC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 05:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Little Subject: Re: problem printing Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 19:11:39 -0500 Message-Id: References: <39bnn3$nev@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39bnn3$nev@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> I am having the same problem using Windows Terminal, dialing in. I have tried the "Preserve-stop-start" option to no avail. After closing the session, then Windows dumps pages of garbage to the printer. Only happens with 3.91. Hmmmm. When attached to a LAN, it's not an issue. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Robert Little, Director | __|__ |rlittle@eagle.lhup.edu Computing Center | --------(*)-------- |Piper Arrow II N32429 Lock Haven University | " " |"Time Flies, Go Fast!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > When we print out a message to "1" "attached-to-ansi", it will cause our > local printer to start flashing (print coming) and then stop...no print-out > I was wondering if any of you gurus had any brilliant ideas about this, > or if anybody got this problem! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:09:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04185; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:09:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23532; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23526; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3K5c-00000rC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 00:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cisitm@albert.cad.cea.fr Subject: cmsg cancel <39b3ec$atq@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> Control: cancel <39b3ec$atq@anemone.saclay.cea.fr> Date: 03 Nov 1994 17:32:12 EDT Message-Id: This spam has been cancelled. Comments to: na48985@anon.penet.fi. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:09:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04199; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:09:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23586; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23580; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3NBd-00002oC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 03:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steinarb@falch.no (Steinar Bang) Subject: [Q] Pine folder format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:24:05 GMT Platform: Sparc, SunOs 4.1.3, Pine 3.90 I assumed that Pine used the Unix mail "From" format for its folders. However, it fails to open mail folders created with the Emacs MUA VM 5.72, so my assumption would seem to have been wrong. So, what format does it use? --
Support your local DoD chapter. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:09:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04257; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:09:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23578; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23572; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3LX9-00002nC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 02:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Macgician@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Macgician!) Subject: Re: Help with "Select-without-confirm" Option Date: Thu, 03 Nov 1994 14:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: References: <1994Nov3.102811.9656@iglou.com> In article <1994Nov3.102811.9656@iglou.com>, werner@iglou.iglou.com (Craig Werner) wrote: + When I read a message and type "e" to export the message, I am asked for + a filename regardless of how I have set the "select-without-confirm" + If I understand the help screen for this option under the configuration + section, enabling "select-without-confirm" shouldn't allow for any + editing of a filename. What i fail to understand here, is how should Pine know what filename to give for the mail you are exporting. Let's say I do set a filename for two messages to be exported one after another. So assuming this feature works, the second time i export, it should do it automatically without prompting for a filename. If this happens then how does the export work meaning....whether the file gets overwritten or appended to? =========================================================================== FEATURE: select-without-confirm This feature controls an aspect of Pine's Save, Export, and Goto commands. These commands all take text input to specify the name of the folder or file to be used, but allow you to press ^T for a list of possible names. If set, the selected name will be used immediately, without further opportunity to confirm or edit the name. =========================================================================== -- @|\@@ Macgician@monroe.temple.edu http://monroe.temple.edu - @@@@ These views are Orders in Pride Land, where no Hyenas live. /7 @@@@ Mophusa: Everything that the light touches is mine. / @@@@@@ Simbha : Everything, hmmm..what about the Dark Side. \-' @@@@@@@@`-________________ -@@@@@@@@@ Lion King / \ _____/ /_ ______/ |_____- /,________/ `-.___/,__________-----_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:09:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04263; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:09:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23512; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23506; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:47:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3IRF-00002EC; Thu, 3 Nov 94 22:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tconrad@owlnet.rice.edu (T.K. Conrad) Subject: Pine as offline reader? Date: 3 Nov 1994 17:39:53 GMT Message-Id: <39b799$q99@larry.rice.edu> I would like to be able to read/send mail offline, but I do not have a POP account. I was just wondering if there was a way to use Pine as part of an offline reading system with my PC using a SLIP connection. Thanks in advance, T.K. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:10:31 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04307; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:10:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23612; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23606; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3PHq-00003FC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 06:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d93matkr@idun.lysator.liu.se. (MATS KRONBERG) Subject: Pine for VMS Date: 04 Nov 1994 13:06:34 GMT Message-Id: Where can I find Pine for VMS? System: VAX 8530 running O/VMS 6.0 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 08:10:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04328; Fri, 4 Nov 94 08:10:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23594; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23588; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:49:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3NGn-000038C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 03:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help with "Select-without-confirm" Option Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 11:43:18 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1994Nov3.102811.9656@iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Nov3.102811.9656@iglou.com> select-without-confirm refers to the confirmation prompt after selecting a file with ^T, not after typing the file name. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Craig Werner wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 NOV 1994 10:28:11 GMT > From: Craig Werner > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Help with "Select-without-confirm" Option > > > Hello, everyone. > > I'm having difficulty understanding the "select-without-confirm" option > in Pine 3.91. I'd appreciate some help, please. > > When I read a message and type "e" to export the message, I am asked for > a filename regardless of how I have set the "select-without-confirm" option. > If I understand the help screen for this option under the configuration > section, enabling "select-without-confirm" shouldn't allow for any editing > of a filename. I think I must be dense, but I'm stuck. I have checked > the release notes and can find no help. > > Thanks for any help you can give. > > Craig Werner > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 09:18:14 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07271; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:18:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23560; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:48:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23552; Fri, 4 Nov 94 07:48:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3KlW-00002kC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 01:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markstep@engin.umich.edu (Mark A. Stephan) Subject: problem printing Date: 3 Nov 1994 22:20:19 GMT Message-Id: <39bnn3$nev@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> SORRY if this has been solved and posted and re-posted about, but i havn't reading the net for a while, and don't know about it... anyways... When we print out a message to "1" "attached-to-ansi", it will cause our local printer to start flashing (print coming) and then stop...no print-out I was wondering if any of you gurus had any brilliant ideas about this, or if anybody got this problem! MTIA (major thanks in advance) email appreciated! -mark -- Mark Stephan The University of Michigan markstep@engin.umich.edu computer engineering @chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu The U of M Solar Car Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 09:31:41 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07871; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:31:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27184; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gatekeeper.sial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27168; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:19:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (schuchas@localhost) by gatekeeper.sial.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA01022; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:10:18 -0600 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:10:18 -0600 (CST) From: Stanley Schuchat To: Bob Little Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem printing In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I print from a Telnet window in MS-Windows, using the "Y" command, The output consists of one line with no carrige returns, using most printers. Using the "text" printer in MS-Windows the print starts OK, but only prints 80 or so characters, with carriage returns handled correctly. I am using Chameleon 3.11N as my PPP connection and my Telnet app. Anyone solved this problem? _______________________________________________________________________ Stanley Schuchat | Sigma Chemical Company Analyst, Competition Department | 3050 Spruce, St Louis, MO 63103 schuchas@spruce.sial.com | (314)771-5765 x2624 On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Bob Little wrote: > > I am having the same problem using Windows Terminal, dialing in. I have > tried the "Preserve-stop-start" option to no avail. After closing the > session, then Windows dumps pages of garbage to the printer. Only > happens with 3.91. Hmmmm. > > When attached to a LAN, it's not an issue. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Robert Little, Director | __|__ |rlittle@eagle.lhup.edu > Computing Center | --------(*)-------- |Piper Arrow II N32429 > Lock Haven University | " " |"Time Flies, Go Fast!" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > When we print out a message to "1" "attached-to-ansi", it will cause our > > local printer to start flashing (print coming) and then stop...no print-out > > I was wondering if any of you gurus had any brilliant ideas about this, > > or if anybody got this problem! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 10:47:28 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12111; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:47:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29178; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:35:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29172; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:35:19 -0800 Via: uk.ac.durham; Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:42:32 +0000 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by durham.ac.uk; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:42:02 GMT Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Fri, 4 Nov 94 15:53:03 GMT Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:52:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Richard Hamilton , Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine running wild when user's session disconnected In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1829 On 2 Nov 1994, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > I've noticed pine processes associated with users whose sessions > ended with either a non-zero return code or a hangup signal running > wild, i.e. apparently looping to no particular end, and eating CPU time > (some hours after the login session had been terminated). > Now for the bottom line: > 1. has anyone had similar problems? > 2. any comments on the possible explanation/fix? > FYI, this is happening on a system running DG/UX ("./build d-g"). On 4 Nov 1994, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Yes, we've seen similar behaviour (a looping Pine) here on our SGI platforms. > Interestingly, some sessions go into tight CPU burning loops, whilst > others just sit clocking up about a seconf od CPU every eleapsed minute > or so. I haven't managed to isolate what people did to get into that state. In 3.90, we had a lot of runaway processes on SunOS 5.3 but none on our HP-UX 9000/{710,730,750} boxes (that I recall). Since 3.91, most of our problems have been with left-over dormant processes that don't eat up time. All of these have appeared with HP-UX 9.01 (but not with SunOS 5.3). We currently have about 12 HP-UX workstations with such processes. If another user tries to run a Pine session, then on 10 of the 12 this is OK whereas on the other 2 it led to an error message like: Pid Killed Text I/O modification or some words like that. I have just killed processes on the two whereas I have done nothing with the 10 yet (as they are relatively harmless!). -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 11:10:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13575; Fri, 4 Nov 94 11:10:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27995; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:57:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27989; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:57:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3Sdz-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 09:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phl@cyways.com (Peter H. Lemieux) Subject: PC-Pine slow over Ethernet Date: 4 Nov 1994 17:21:53 GMT Message-Id: <39dqjh$be4@sundog.tiac.net> I have some users running PC-Pine with their mail stored on a Linux host running imapd. Access to their inboxes is incredibly slow, often up to a minute or more, despite being connected over ethernet. Occasionally also get repeated ICMP errors which are eventually followed by the prompt to log into the mailbox. Why is this so slow and what can I do about it? Unix users who telnet into the Linux host have no such problems (but then their mail is on the same box). Peter Please reply by email. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Peter H. Lemieux, President cyways, inc Voice: +1 (617) 924-7991 203 Arlington Street Fax: +1 (617) 926-8440 Watertown, MA 02172-2036 Internet: phl@cyways.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 11:41:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15107; Fri, 4 Nov 94 11:41:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29699; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:57:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29693; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:57:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3T2U-000008C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 10:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sharon Kraft Subject: bug in Pine 3.91 for some pine.conf vars and a fix Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:25:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: <393p67$1ld@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <393p67$1ld@nntp1.u.washington.edu> I had already known about the new bug in Pine that broke the local sending of bugs mail and had fixed that by updating the os-xxx file, but of course that wasn't the real problem. (Figured U Wash. really would not like to get questions from our thousands of users.) Since I always use my own printer, I hadn't noticed that the standard-printer defined in our local /usr/local/lib/pine.conf wasn't working either. That was more critical to us since tons of users print to our central printer which we want by default defined as 2-up printing and it's own queue. The real fix was to a few of those pesky lines of code added to init.c between Pine 3.90 and Pine 3.91. It jumps out of the loop for "user controlled variables" even when it's processing pine.conf or pine.conf.fixed . The fix was simply to move the continue statement inside the if . Here's the diff (at line 2097, etc in the code): -------------- tk>diff init.c init.c.original 2097d2096 < continue; 2098a2098 > continue; tk> -------------- Hope this helps anyone with the same problem. - Sharon Kraft __________________________________________________________________________ | "How can organized large-scale structures function when the atoms that | | make them up are swimming in an ocean of chaos? How can stable | | patterns of behavior arise in a fundamentally chaotic world? " | | | | "does Chaos rule the Cosmos?" - Ian Stewart (1992, Univ. of Warwick) | | | | slk@christa.unh.edu s_kraft@unhn.unh.edu | | slk@kepler.unh.edu slk@snakes.unh.edu | |__________________________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 12:47:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17790; Fri, 4 Nov 94 12:47:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29942; Fri, 4 Nov 94 12:24:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29936; Fri, 4 Nov 94 12:24:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3UeK-00000AC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 11:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) Subject: Re: XON/XOFF Problems via modem Date: 4 Nov 1994 14:33:57 -0500 Message-Id: <39e2b5$o5s@panix.com> References: <39dpd3$9or@inxs.ncren.net> In <39dpd3$9or@inxs.ncren.net> mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) writes: >When my users login on the dialin lines at 2400 baud and then run pine3.91, >they get scrambled screen displays and see messages telling them XON >received, see preserve-start-stop setting in Setup/Config. >Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it? I have the XON rec'd see preservr-etc message too, but it doesn't mess up the screen, but is bothersome. What does cause this. I looked at preserve-start-stop, but didn't see anything relevant. Jim -- Jim Huggins jph@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 16:09:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28129; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:09:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06924; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:04:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06916; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:04:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3YJl-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jorge Paramo Subject: filter Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 10:53:22 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there; I know this has been discussed before, but I cannot find it. Is there a way to filter msgs from certain people so they don't reach the inbox? - I am using Pine 3.90 (Adm will not update). Any ideas suggestions will be greatly eppreciated. Thank You, Jorge. _________________________________________________________________________ "We are all novices. | Internet: paramoj@river.it.gvsu.edu Only the dead have | paramoj@erie.csis.gvsu.edu nothing left to learn." | GRAND VALLEY STATE UNIVERSITY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 16:50:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29766; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:50:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06236; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:44:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06230; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:44:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3Yti-000008C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 16:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cgra@loc.gov Subject: Pine Mail Listserv? Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 18:06:17 Message-Id: A colleague at the Library of Congress has been unable to post to comp.mail.pine, although he is able to receive all the messages. We will try to work out this problem, but -- in the meantime -- is comp.mail.pine ONLY a Usenet newsgroup, or does it have a corresponding listserv or e-mail discussion group access? Cheryl Graunke CRS - Library of Congress cgra@loc.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 17:35:15 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02343; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:35:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08816; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:30:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08810; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:29:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3Zfm-000008C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laurentb@blin.interax.net (Laurent Blin) Subject: Problem accessing remote SMTP server Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 15:35:24 GMT Message-Id: I currenlty PPP to my SMTP server and use popcli to access my mail. I would like to start using pine, but my account has a password. Is is possible to specify a password in .pinerc? I've tried to write a script to get my mail using popcli and place it in my inbox but pine gives me a corrupted folder message. The format of the mail header info is very similar to that of pine mail with slight diffs eg. lacking the following --> Content-Type: text Content-Length: 48 Status: RO X-Status: Could I add this info to my mail or is there an easier way to solve this? Laurent Blin (laurentb@blin.interax.net) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 18:05:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03379; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:05:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07754; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:55:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07748; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:55:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3a08-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Mail Listserv? Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:15:54 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: comp.mail.pine is bi-directionally gatewayed with pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Feel free to post via pine-info and read via comp.mail.pine. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with "subscribe pine-info" in the body of the message... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 4 Nov 1994 cgra@loc.gov wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 NOV 1994 18:06:17 > From: cgra@loc.gov > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine Mail Listserv? > > A colleague at the Library of Congress has been unable to post to > comp.mail.pine, although he is able to receive all the messages. > > We will try to work out this problem, but -- in the meantime -- is > comp.mail.pine ONLY a Usenet newsgroup, or does it have a corresponding > listserv or e-mail discussion group access? > > Cheryl Graunke > CRS - Library of Congress > cgra@loc.gov > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 18:24:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03790; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:24:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09681; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:20:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09675; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3aO7-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) Subject: XON/XOFF Problems via modem Date: 4 Nov 1994 17:01:23 GMT Message-Id: <39dpd3$9or@inxs.ncren.net> When my users login on the dialin lines at 2400 baud and then run pine3.91, they get scrambled screen displays and see messages telling them XON received, see preserve-start-stop setting in Setup/Config. Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it? Thanks, Mike. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Michael J. Diehn --\\-- mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu Warren Wilson College --//-- Swannanoa, NC (USA) --\\-- Don't just do something! Sit there! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 18:30:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03916; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:30:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09645; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:18:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09639; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:18:21 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15047; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:18:15 -0800 Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 18:18:12 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "James P. Huggins" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: XON/XOFF Problems via modem In-Reply-To: <39e2b5$o5s@panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Nov 1994, James P. Huggins wrote: > In <39dpd3$9or@inxs.ncren.net> mdiehn@warren-wilson.edu (Michael J. Diehn (mike)) writes: > > >When my users login on the dialin lines at 2400 baud and then run pine3.91, > >they get scrambled screen displays and see messages telling them XON > >received, see preserve-start-stop setting in Setup/Config. > > >Any idea what is causing this or how to fix it? > > > I have the XON rec'd see preservr-etc message too, but it doesn't mess up > the screen, but is bothersome. What does cause this. I looked at > preserve-start-stop, but didn't see anything relevant. Jim and Michael, The "irrelevant" feature you mention is *intended* to fix exactly the problem you describe... If it does not, please let us know. The cause of recurring XON/XOFF messages is that either your communication software or your modem or your site's modem or its terminal server is configured for "software flow control", by which Unix and Pine receive an XOFF when the PC/modem/whatever is about to have its communication buffer overrun, and an XON when it is safe to resume sending data. That's fine, but you need to tell Pine about it via the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature, and be aware that when so configured, if you ever inadvertently type control-S (XOFF), Pine will then appear to freeze until you enter a control-Q (XON). This feature *currently* assumes that Unix has s/w flow control enabled before Pine starts... in 3.92 we'll remove that assumption, so that the feature will work regardless of the previous Unix tty settings. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 18:58:27 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04441; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:58:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08576; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08570; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:55:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3awH-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 18:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arice@dorsai.org Subject: NNTP Server ?? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 17:09:24 GMT Would anyone know that NNTP-Server for newgroups is on Dorsai? thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 19:54:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05553; Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:54:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10781; Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:50:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10775; Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:50:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3bsb-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 19:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mats@exodata.se (Mats Akerberg) Subject: Re: pine on solaris2.3 In-Reply-To: jgarsena@cti.ulaval.ca's message of Tue, 1 Nov 1994 13: 56:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <31OCT94.12739328.0050.MUSIC@UTEP> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 15:49:26 GMT In article jgarsena@cti.ulaval.ca (Jean-Guy Arsenault) writes: #-> J'ai eu les mêmes problèmes. J'ai trouvé des indications pour corriger ces problèmes. Ou? Je m'en souvient plus mais voici quelques informations qui pourraient vous intéresser #-> #-> Sources: ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/unix/general/pine/ #-> Exécutable pour Sol 2.3: ftp://ftp.ulaval.ca/unix/sun/solaris2.3/pine/ This guy wrote me a mail as well (In french), and I don't understand French! Is there anyone that can translate? It seems like he have som sort of src at his site but????? Thank's /Mats -- Mats Akerberg (mats@exodata.se) Exo Data AB Snail: Box 8312 S-163 08 Spanga Sweden Phone: + 46 8 795 98 30 FAX: + 46 8 36 55 78 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 20:38:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06273; Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09789; Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:35:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09783; Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:35:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3cZi-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Randall S. Winchester" Subject: How to or a request for a feature. Date: Wed, 2 Nov 1994 11:55:41 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have seen a lot of conversations on prefiltering pine mail, but not on postfiltering. I prefer to look at my mail most of the time, before I run my filters. This brings up two senarios, that I do not seem to be able to do currently. 1) stuff my "read-messages" to the read-messages-folder ("incoming" in my case), without quitting pine. Then I could call up a filter ("/usr/local/mh/lib/slocal -user rsw" in my case), and continue on reading my now nicely seperated mail. 2) be able to set read-message-folder=| /usr/local/mh/lib/slocal -user $USER so it could all happen automagicaly.. I tried "h;aa|/usr/local/mh/lib/slocal -user rsw" but the "from " line is not there and it all looks like one mail message to slocal. Currently, I have to get into pine, connect to the imap server, scan/read/delete/expunge my first pass though my mail (hundreds of messages), quit pine (saves my read messages) run my filter, get back in pine, and start reading though my 20 odd folders. I do not think this would be too hard to implement, but would be very convienient. I do really like pine. Thanks, for and tips, ideas, thoughts. Randall From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 21:14:59 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06820; Fri, 4 Nov 94 21:14:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11738; Fri, 4 Nov 94 21:10:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11732; Fri, 4 Nov 94 21:10:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3d6C-000006C; Fri, 4 Nov 94 20:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Roch Subject: Multiple sessions viewing a mailbox Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 23:18:09 GMT We are considering using a dummy username's inbox as our incoming fault report conduit. The idea is that lots of people could have a window open running pine -if /var/spool/mail/dummy_username These lots of people have group read permission on the spool file. It works up to a point, but new arrivals are not reflected in the read-only sessions. If a session is read-only, why shouldn't pine periodically check the mail spool for changes? The person with the r/o session isn't changing anything ... Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 22:30:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08060; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:30:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11095; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:26:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11089; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:26:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3eEB-00000AC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 4wmh@qlink.queensu.ca (Haddara Wael M) Subject: Sorting incoming msgs Date: 4 Nov 1994 22:46:11 GMT Message-Id: <39edjj$8um@knot.queensu.ca> Hello !! Can some kind soul help me with how to sort messages into separat folders as they come in. I am currently subscribed to a fairly high volume group, and I was wondering if I cannot direct mail from that source to a particular folder. The .pinerc file seems to allow something of the sort, but I don't understand how ??? Much appreciated, Wael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 22:51:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08460; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:51:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12905; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:47:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12899; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:47:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3eNL-00000VC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Disabling MIME-encoding Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:41:43 -0800 Message-Id: References: <39cv2h$f93@ugle.unit.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39cv2h$f93@ugle.unit.no> Pine 3.92 will support 8bit messages via ESMTP servers that support 8BITMIME. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Nov 1994, Roar Foshaug wrote: > Path: news.u.washington.edu!zoology.washington.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!oracle.pnl.gov!osi-east2.es.net!lll-winken.llnl.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!sunic!ugle.unit.no!ceres.bibsys.no!roarf > From: roarf@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Roar Foshaug) > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Disabling MIME-encoding > Date: 4 Nov 1994 09:32:01 GMT > Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway > Lines: 20 > Message-ID: <39cv2h$f93@ugle.unit.no> > NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.bibsys.no > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] > > Is there some way to disable the MIME-encoding og 8-bit messages? > In Norway the ISO-8859-1 character set is becoming a standard, but > Pine insists on using MIME encoding, placing =E5 and suchlike for the > above-128 character codes. > > Most people in Norway do not have mailclients that understand MIME, so > it looks awful. We would like to send 'clean' 8-bit ISO. The alternative > is to use 7bit (Norwegian ascii, replacing some brackets with our > "extra" alphabet characters), but we'd rather prefer 8-bit, to help > push people away from 7bit to 8bit. For communication with English- > speaking countries there will be no difference, as the English > alphabet never uses the eigth bit. > > Any hints? Please send me mail (see below), and I'll post a summary if > I get anything useful. Thanks. > > -- > email: Roar.Foshaug@bibsys.no "Just do it ... Linux!" o > tel : 7359 0858 _ /-_ > addr : BIBSYS, Elgesetergt 10, 7034 Trondheim, NORWAY (_)>(_) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 23:04:54 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08659; Fri, 4 Nov 94 23:04:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11465; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:58:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11459; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:58:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3ema-00000JC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) Subject: Re: Anyone build pine3.91 for UnixWare yet? Message-Id: References: <2eb7beda0.1b9f@stimpy.summit.novell.com> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 19:03:42 GMT I posted a message just a week or so ago, about compiling pine 3.90. Thanks to the answers I received, I had it built -- just about the time that 3.91 was released! I have already been in contact with people from UofW; based on the various fixes I have received, I hope to be submitting to the pine development group, the info necessary for a clean a UnixWare-specific build option. I just hope there aren't any significant changes in the config files between 3.90 and 3.91. It's not at the top of my list of things-to-do, and it's probably a while 'till their next release. But it *will* come. -- Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario Novell Unix Master Reseller / evan@telly.on.ca / (905) 452-0504 PCMCIA: People Can't Memorize Computer Industry Acronyms From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Nov 4 23:13:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08917; Fri, 4 Nov 94 23:13:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13183; Fri, 4 Nov 94 23:09:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13171; Fri, 4 Nov 94 23:09:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3enH-00000LC; Fri, 4 Nov 94 22:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: [Q] Pine folder format Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 11:47:23 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine currently supports variations of at least six different local folder formats, with a few others available as options. Send a sample folder that Pine fails to open to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu as an attachment and we will take a look at it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 4 Nov 1994, Steinar Bang wrote: > Date: Fri, 4 NOV 1994 11:24:05 GMT > From: Steinar Bang > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: [Q] Pine folder format > > Platform: Sparc, SunOs 4.1.3, Pine 3.90 > > I assumed that Pine used the Unix mail "From" format for its > folders. > > However, it fails to open mail folders created with the Emacs MUA VM > 5.72, so my assumption would seem to have been wrong. > > So, what format does it use? > -- > >
> Support your local DoD chapter. > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 05:32:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17261; Sat, 5 Nov 94 05:32:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16380; Sat, 5 Nov 94 05:24:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16374; Sat, 5 Nov 94 05:24:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3kmM-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: beginning of messages/parsing Date: 2 Nov 1994 11:43:42 -0700 Message-Id: <398mku$jm4@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <9411021522.AA27784@micronet.wcu.edu> In article <9411021522.AA27784@micronet.wcu.edu>, Patti Johnson wrote: : :Then, I moved to my Sun/Solaris 2.3 box and found that that is no longer true. :I thought the problem was mine until I received a couple of messages that :included several imbedded "From "'s - they were majordomo list logs. Well, :mailx could tell that there was a total of 3 messages, where the messages :included many other messaages. Pine, on the other hand could not - and parsed :them out as several smaller messages. There's a sendmail flag that will turn 'From ' into '>From ' inside a message body during local delivery; otherwise that 'From ' will look like it's the start of a new message. Mailx uses another method to tell messages apart, which is why it didn't get confused. Ask your system administrator to check the flags used on sendmail's local delivery agent. I thought that /bin/mail, the default local delivery agent, doesn't need that flag, but perhaps your administrator is using some other program for local delivery. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 07:39:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19385; Sat, 5 Nov 94 07:39:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19415; Sat, 5 Nov 94 07:32:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19409; Sat, 5 Nov 94 07:32:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3mkA-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 07:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iveysoto@vesta.unm.edu (Daniel A Ivey-Soto) Subject: Re: How to send mail to Prodigy users??? Date: 5 Nov 1994 07:21:07 GMT Message-Id: <39fbp3$7q7@lynx.unm.edu> References: <397vll$khe@mozz.unh.edu> Christan E Schoenfeld (ces@christa.unh.edu) wrote: : How do Prodigy and Internet users address each other in E-Mail? : Any help would eb appreciated. : -Chris : -- : __________________________________________________________________________ : |Chris E. Schoenfeld | University of New Hampshire | : |Communications / PoliSci Major | Look to the Cookie! | : |_________________________________|________________________________________| -- >From the Internet the addressing is "handle@prodigy.com" (quotes omitted). However, The folks at Prodigy require users to pay an extra fee for the software which enables them to read non-Prodigy e-mail. Make sure whomever you are sending it to has paid this extra ransom. From within Prodigy, I don't know, since I refuse to use a system which charges extra to allow you to read mail from the rest of the world, and also monitors the content of messages poted within its own system to ensure they meet with approval from "on high". Take care, Daniel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 11:41:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24162; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20990; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:33:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20984; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:33:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3qXf-00000AC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Rolling Stones) Subject: Re: How to I save the whole folder? Date: 5 Nov 1994 18:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <39gjbb$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Comes here Mr/Mz. Jon Bell with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Sat, 5 Nov 1994 16:48:48 GMT: + In article , + jbollow@netcom.com wrote: + >November just arrived and now I have another folder in Pine. It's the + >mail that I sent in October. Is there any way to export that whole + Each mail folder in pine is simply an ordinary text file in your "Mail" + subdirectory, containing all the saved messages one after the other. So, + at your UNIX prompt, "cd Mail", then "ls" to see what you have there. You Umm...make that 'mail' (lowercase m), as Mail dir. is created by Elm. Atleast that's how it is here, so as DLM said it is either Mail or mail dir. depends on how the setup is at your site. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 11:41:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24190; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:41:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22365; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:33:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22359; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:32:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3qWu-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Rolling Stones) Subject: cmsg cancel <39gj0c$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Control: cancel <39gj0c$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 5 Nov 1994 18:32:07 GMT Message-Id: <39gj37$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 11:44:14 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24241; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:44:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20982; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20976; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:32:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3qWo-000006C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Rolling Stones) Subject: cmsg cancel <39gj0c$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Control: cancel <39gj0c$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: 5 Nov 1994 18:31:42 GMT Message-Id: <39gj2e$4j7@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 12:14:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25098; Sat, 5 Nov 94 12:14:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22769; Sat, 5 Nov 94 12:03:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22763; Sat, 5 Nov 94 12:02:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3r4N-000006C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 11:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: werner@iglou.iglou.com (Craig Werner) Subject: Re: Help with "Select-without-confirm" Option Message-Id: <1994Nov5.101641.14962@iglou.com> References: <1994Nov3.102811.9656@iglou.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 10:16:41 GMT David L Miller writes: >select-without-confirm refers to the confirmation prompt after selecting a >file with ^T, not after typing the file name. David, at first this explanation was perfectly clear. Later, though, I wondered how one could type ^G after the "E" command. Isn't "E" one of the commands that is supposed to work with ^T? The help screen seems to indicate this is so. Craig From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 13:17:15 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26499; Sat, 5 Nov 94 13:17:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22430; Sat, 5 Nov 94 13:13:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22424; Sat, 5 Nov 94 13:13:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3s6v-00000FC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 12:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nabil Zary med6 Subject: PINE 3.91 asking about moving sent-mail... Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 17:20:51 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 I do know that PINE asks at the end of every month if I want to move sent-mail to f.ex. sent-mail-october. Even thow I said yes, now everytime I start PINE it asks me if I want to delete sent-mail-oct? And this happens even for users that got a new account since Nov 1st. I have a pine.conf.fixed file, do I have to change something there? Salut! Nabil (o o) +------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------------------+ Nabil Zary Karolinska Institutet Tel :+46 8 820422 Sokrates Sysop S-171 77 Stockholm MiniCall:0746-451786 DSG /MIP Sweden / Suede Visit: Doktorsringen 6C,Solna From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 14:12:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27743; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:12:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24438; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:08:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24432; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:08:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3szW-00000AC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 13:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alessandro Agostini Subject: Pine source Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 16:26:37 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have developed a mail reader program in C language. It work by NFS for read the users's mailbox; by the way in the next release i like include Pine protocol. It is possible? \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ --- ../|\.. --- //////////////////// | Agostini Alessandro agostini@iroe.iroe.fi.cnr.it | | Istituto Ricerca Onde Elettromagnetiche - N.Carrara | | Via Panciatichi,64 50127 Firenze - Italy | | Tel:055/4235203; Fax:055/410893 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 15:02:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28966; Sat, 5 Nov 94 15:02:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23884; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:53:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23878; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:53:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3tfC-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 14:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mike@software.com (Michael D'Errico) Subject: How to get pine to read my MH folders? Date: 4 Nov 1994 20:47:57 -0800 Message-Id: <39f2pt$ftl@rome.software.com> Hi, I have been using MH for about two years and have collected a lot of mail. I've heard that pine is able to access mail in MH folder format, but I can't find any documentation on setting it up for this purpose. So, does anybody know the trick? I'm using Pine 3.89 and MH 6.8.3 on Solaris 2.2. Thanks, Michael D'Errico Software.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 16:41:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01833; Sat, 5 Nov 94 16:41:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26520; Sat, 5 Nov 94 16:36:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26514; Sat, 5 Nov 94 16:36:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3v9a-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 16:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xjzhu@math.uwaterloo.ca (Xiaojun Zhu) Subject: help on setup aliases Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 21:45:48 GMT Hi, there: Is anybody here know how to setup an alias for a 300 list of people? The aim is to avoid the address to be all listed on the header, ie, it is prefered to use a BCC type of aliases. Currently, it is causing us trouble because the BCC doesn't allow so many people. We will also appreciate ways to do this in elm or pine. Thanks, XJ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 17:37:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03191; Sat, 5 Nov 94 17:37:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26319; Sat, 5 Nov 94 17:29:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26313; Sat, 5 Nov 94 17:29:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3w8n-000006C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 17:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: georgeb@netcom.com (George H. Bosworth) Subject: SEF/UniForum Open Systems SIG, Tuesday Nov. 8 -- REMINDER Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 21:33:33 GMT SEF/UniForum Open Systems SIG MIME Status Report -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions (MIME) is an important standard for conveying pictures, audio, formatted data, and ordinary text in email. It describes many data types; many Unix, Windows, and Mac mail programs implement MIME to varying degrees. Dave Crocker, a noted internetworking consultant, will give a status report on MIME and its implementations. He will address questions like: What's the real purpose of MIME and its data types? If I want to develop an application that uses email, can I rely on my customers having MIME? When will the email I receive be enriched via MIME? How can I send MIME-enriched mail to others? Place: Digital Equipment Corporation 130 Lytton Street, Palo Alto CA (Corner of Alma, 1 block N. of University) Date & Time: Tuesday, November 8, 1994, 7:00-9:00 p.m. Cost: Free for SEF and full UniForum members and DEC employees; $5 for trial UniForum members; $10 for others. No reservation required; limit of 90 attendees. Information: George Bosworth, 415/851-3304, georgeb@netcom.com Dave Crocker, principal with Brandenburg Consulting, has participated in the development of internetworking capabilities since 1972, first as part of the Arpanet research community, and more recently in the commercial sector. He wrote the current Internet standards for mail header formats and was principal architect for MCI Mail. He retains technical involvement in Internet standards activities for transport services, electronic mail, and electronic commerce. SEF, the Software Entrepreneurs' Forum, started in 1983, is a leading Silicon Valley-based non-profit organization dedicated to software professionals, with over 900 members. SEF informs and educates its members on all facets of the software industry. SEF sponsors 12 other SIGs, which meet once a month: Business Operations, Client Server, Intelligent Systems, International, Macintosh, Marketing, Multimedia, Networking, Pen/Mobile, Visual Basic, Windows, and Wireless. Call 415/854-7219 for more SEF information. UniForum, The International Association of Open Systems Professionals, is a vendor-independent, not-for-profit professional association that helps individuals and their organizations increase their Information Systems effectiveness through the use of open systems, based on shared industry standards. Central to UniForum's mission is the delivery of high quality educations programs, trade shows and conferences, publications, on-line services, and peer group interactions. Call 800/255-5620 for more UniForum information. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 20:19:27 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05788; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:19:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29245; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:15:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29239; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:15:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3yjx-000006C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 19:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Addressbook Nicknames Needed? Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 23:30:32 +0000 Message-Id: References: <39er7o$edr@news.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39er7o$edr@news.cais.com> On 5 Nov 1994 jlfitz@cais2.cais.com wrote: > Is it necessary to use the nickname fields when entering data in > the PINE address book? It gets real annoying trying to think of a > nickname for every litte entry... Uh, yes, you need a nickname for each entry. What would be the point in the address book, otherwise?! --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 20:57:51 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06537; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:57:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28750; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:54:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28738; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:54:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3zEM-00000AC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BeardGroup Subject: Multiple Addressees in Pine Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 09:23:58 -0500 Message-Id: References: <39dpd3$9or@inxs.ncren.net> <39e2b5$o5s@panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39e2b5$o5s@panix.com> I would like to send messages to multiple addressees with only the individual recipient's name showing on the "To" line. Currently the whole list is shown. I would assume that this should be a relatively simple problem to solve but I can't seem to find the answer. I'd appreciate any help or direction in as non-technical terms as possible. Thanks in advance. Chris Beard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 21:05:20 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06723; Sat, 5 Nov 94 21:05:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29770; Sat, 5 Nov 94 21:00:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29764; Sat, 5 Nov 94 21:00:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r3zQr-00000MC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 20:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d93matkr@hera.isy.liu.se (MATS KRONBERG) Subject: Pine for VMS Date: 05 Nov 1994 14:54:48 GMT Message-Id: Where can I find Pine for VMS? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 22:44:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08317; Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:44:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29990; Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29984; Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:39:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r40uX-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt) Subject: Re: .forward problem... Date: 5 Nov 1994 12:10:57 GMT Message-Id: <39fsoh$c3u@mistral.toppoint.de> References: In wclam@cs.cuhk.hk (/\/\arcus La/\/\ ) writes: >Hello All, > I have a simple problem. Currently I have 2 mail addresses, say A and B. >The problem is, how could I forward my incoming mails at A to B WITHOUT >deleting them at A? That is, I can still read at A? Just put the following two lines into your .forward at your A account: \A B So a copy will be kept at your A account. The backslash is needed to prevent infinite loops. Kai -- Kai Voigt, Werftstrasse 2, 24148 Kiel, Germany, +49 431 7297514 "sendmail.cf looks like a context diff of two core files." -- sjm@ra12.curtin.edu.au (Simon Mackinlay) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 23:14:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08839; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:14:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01354; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01348; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:09:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r41RN-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 22:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtbell@presby.edu (Jon Bell) Subject: Re: How to I save the whole folder? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 5 Nov 1994 16:48:48 GMT References: In article , jbollow@netcom.com wrote: >November just arrived and now I have another folder in Pine. It's the >mail that I sent in October. Is there any way to export that whole >folder (rather than saving each file individually)? I would like to put >it all onto a disk (or two), rather than leaving it all at Netcom. Each mail folder in pine is simply an ordinary text file in your "Mail" subdirectory, containing all the saved messages one after the other. So, at your UNIX prompt, "cd Mail", then "ls" to see what you have there. You should see a file named something like "sent-mail-oct-1994". Download it to your PC like any other text file, then delete it with "rm." -- Jon Bell Presbyterian College Dept. of Physics and Computer Science Clinton, South Carolina USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Nov 5 23:31:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09089; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:31:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00565; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:24:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00559; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:24:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r41bS-00000AC; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roarf@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE. (Roar Foshaug) Subject: Disabling MIME-encoding Date: 4 Nov 1994 09:32:01 GMT Message-Id: <39cv2h$f93@ugle.unit.no> Is there some way to disable the MIME-encoding og 8-bit messages? In Norway the ISO-8859-1 character set is becoming a standard, but Pine insists on using MIME encoding, placing =E5 and suchlike for the above-128 character codes. Most people in Norway do not have mailclients that understand MIME, so it looks awful. We would like to send 'clean' 8-bit ISO. The alternative is to use 7bit (Norwegian ascii, replacing some brackets with our "extra" alphabet characters), but we'd rather prefer 8-bit, to help push people away from 7bit to 8bit. For communication with English- speaking countries there will be no difference, as the English alphabet never uses the eigth bit. Any hints? Please send me mail (see below), and I'll post a summary if I get anything useful. Thanks. -- email: Roar.Foshaug@bibsys.no "Just do it ... Linux!" o tel : 7359 0858 _ /-_ addr : BIBSYS, Elgesetergt 10, 7034 Trondheim, NORWAY (_)>(_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 00:01:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09584; Sun, 6 Nov 94 00:01:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01825; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:54:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01819; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:54:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r425j-000008C; Sat, 5 Nov 94 23:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: FORWARDED LETTER Date: 5 Nov 1994 23:32:08 -0700 Message-Id: <39ht98$omv@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Cher Wai Pang wrote: : :I recently sent a letter to a friend, and he has :programmed his mail handler (I don't know if it is PINE) to automatically :send out a message to people who e-mail him telling them he is not :available. Anyone can tell me if this can be done with PINE 3.90? On UNIX systems that's typically handled by the vacation(1) program. I think you can get a similar result with some mail filtering programs, like deliver or procmail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 01:20:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11303; Sun, 6 Nov 94 01:20:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01795; Sun, 6 Nov 94 01:05:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01789; Sun, 6 Nov 94 01:05:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r43E2-00000BC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 00:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davidy@vw.hwcae.az.Honeywell.COM (David Young) Subject: Problems with IMAPd ?? Date: 04 Nov 1994 00:29:24 GMT Message-Id: I just compiled pine (3.89) for my HP/UX 700. I also ported IMAPd to an Apollo DomainOS system (that's where the mail is). Pine seems to run fine (despite these messages) but I keep getting [IMAP error: Command unrecognized: FETCH] [Command unrecognized: FETCH] When I type 'D' to delete a message, or 'U' to undelete a message, I get: [IMAP error: Command unrecognized: -FLAGS] [Command unrecognized: -FLAGS] I can read my mail and it would appear that I can do everything else (reply ,forward, etc) without a problem, other than the fact you keep getting those annoying messages about every 5 to 15 seconds. Any idea as to what is wrong? Is there a FAQ for PINE? -- David J. Young Phone: 602.436.2968 Network/System Administrator davidy@hwcae.honeywell.com Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division Do you know Kimball? P.O. Box 21111 M/S AZ75-K26E2 Phoenix AZ 85036 EQ Kimball, the insurance man? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 10:06:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20830; Sun, 6 Nov 94 10:06:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09067; Sun, 6 Nov 94 10:01:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09061; Sun, 6 Nov 94 10:01:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4BbI-00000JC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 09:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tigerwolf@jaguar.tigerden.com () Subject: Re: Pine running wild when user's session disconnected Date: 6 Nov 1994 00:29:08 GMT Message-Id: <39h80k$nrb@ns.oar.net> References: <3979mu$ha7@romulus.ncsc.mil> Richard L. Hamilton (richh@romulus.ncsc.mil) wrote: : I've noticed pine processes associated with users whose sessions : ended with either a non-zero return code or a hangup signal running : wild, i.e. apparently looping to no particular end, and eating CPU time : (some hours after the login session had been terminated). : I've got a wild guess that where it is looping is line 392 of We've had no problems with 3,89 or 3.90, but have noticed this with 3.91. We are running Linux 1.1.59 and are not running imapd. I'm not sure what caused the entry into the loop, but I have noticed a pine process belonging to a disconnected user eating processor time on 2 different occasions in the last week. George Nemeyer System Administrator Tigerden.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 11:16:09 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22426; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:16:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08939; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:11:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08933; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:11:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4Ck0-00000FC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 10:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: mkpgp available by finger Message-Id: <1994Nov5.190654.275@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 5 Nov 94 19:06:54 CST mkpgp is a c-shell script that provides PGP encryption to Pine. For the last modification time: finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | grep mkpgp For the readme and a uuencoded mkpgp: finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt For the executable script: finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f | uudecode Enjoy. -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 11:46:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23159; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:46:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09364; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09358; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:41:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4D6S-00000FC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: francis@moe.ac.sg (Francis Ho) Subject: PCPINE for windows - Cant connect Date: 3 Nov 1994 10:57:08 GMT Message-Id: <39afm4$q77@piaget.moe.ac.sg> I've been using Pine3.91 on my Sun workstation running Solaris2.3. I was trying PCPINE for windows and got the following error: Cant connect to piaget.moe.ac.sg.143: Refused <10061> I tried to telnet to piaget.moe.ac.sg 143 but to no avail. Must I run something at port 143? and what is it? How do I run it in Solaris2.3? ---- Francis Ho Internet: francis@moe.ac.sg Education Data Centre, MOE Tel : (65) - 4713949 " Doing without thinking, is as good as thinking without doing " From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 13:03:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24639; Sun, 6 Nov 94 13:03:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11299; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:52:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11293; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:51:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4EC5-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 12:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philos@crl.com (Chris Byrd) Subject: Using alternate sendmail with Unix Pine 3.91 Date: 2 Nov 1994 09:57:07 -0800 Message-Id: <398jtj$k4u@crl6.crl.com> Is it possible for an unprivleged user to set up Unix Pine 3.91 to call an alternate to sendmail in my home directory? I am using a Perl script called premail to process mail (it takes the same arguments as sendmail and calls sendmail with its results.) Thanks, Chris From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 13:39:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25389; Sun, 6 Nov 94 13:39:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10718; Sun, 6 Nov 94 13:34:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10712; Sun, 6 Nov 94 13:34:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4EpW-00000HC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 13:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Problems with IMAPd ?? Date: Thu, 3 Nov 1994 20:46:41 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This sounds like a problem with your port of imapd to Applo DomainOS. FETCH is certainly a valid command in the IMAP protocol, although this error message can also happen if there are no arguments after the FETCH command due to an oddity in imapd's parser. Another possibility may be your HP/UX port. Did you modify Pine, and in particular, the c-client/imap2.c or c-client/tcp_unix.c files, in any way? These error mesages can happen if spurious newlines were being inserted in the IMAP protocol stream. I suggest that you review all modifications made to the sources. Also, the current version of Pine is Pine 3.91. The Pine FAQ is on pine/docs on the ftp.cac.washington.edu anonymous FTP server. -- Mark -- On 4 Nov 1994, David Young wrote: > > I just compiled pine (3.89) for my HP/UX 700. > I also ported IMAPd to an Apollo DomainOS system (that's where the mail is). > > Pine seems to run fine (despite these messages) but I keep getting > > [IMAP error: Command unrecognized: FETCH] > [Command unrecognized: FETCH] > > When I type 'D' to delete a message, or 'U' to undelete a message, I get: > > [IMAP error: Command unrecognized: -FLAGS] > [Command unrecognized: -FLAGS] > > I can read my mail and it would appear that I can do everything else > (reply ,forward, etc) without a problem, other than the fact you keep > getting those annoying messages about every 5 to 15 seconds. > > Any idea as to what is wrong? > > Is there a FAQ for PINE? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 16:33:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28135; Sun, 6 Nov 94 16:33:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14003; Sun, 6 Nov 94 16:29:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13997; Sun, 6 Nov 94 16:29:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4HR9-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkaufman@apollo.aoe.vt.edu (Matthew Kaufman) Subject: Help... Pine for an SGI running IRIX Date: Sun, 06 Nov 1994 18:40:06 -0400 Message-Id: I am looking for someone who has a copy of pine and/or pico operating succesfully on a Silicon Graphics machine running IRIX. I'd like to get the binaries for my local machine. I wrote to UofW and they reffered me to this group. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.... -------------------------------------------------------- Matthew Kaufman | \\\ Virginia Tech | \\ \\\ Aerospace Engineering | kaufman@apollo.aoe.vt.edu |->==| >==> 215 Randolph Hall | // /// Blacksburg, VA 24061 | /// -------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 17:17:17 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29128; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:17:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13544; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:12:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13538; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:12:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4IM2-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 16:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chip@clark.net (Chip Davis) Subject: .addressbook won't prYnt in 3.91 Date: 4 Nov 1994 20:44:09 GMT Message-Id: <39e6ep$939@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit When I try to prYnt my .addressbook in Pine 3.91, it gets about half-way down the page, then skips about a page-worth of entries before continuing. I checked .addressbook for something unusual at the point where it skips, but all's well. If I drop back to Pine 3.89 and prYnt the same .addressbook, it comes out perfect. I'm encountering no other printing anomalies associated with attached-to-ANSI printing. Is this a known bug? -- Chip Davis : chip@clark.net : Rexx Language Association : Team OS/2 PP-ASEL/IA : Cessna 172A N7650T : Wolf Airport (1W5) : "Oshkosh '95 Bound" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 17:32:11 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29420; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:32:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13752; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:28:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13746; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:28:45 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 7 Nov 94 09:25:09 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 09:25:07 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Francis Ho Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PCPINE for windows - Cant connect In-Reply-To: <39afm4$q77@piaget.moe.ac.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Nov 1994, Francis Ho wrote: > I've been using Pine3.91 on my Sun workstation running Solaris2.3. > I was trying PCPINE for windows and got the following error: > > Cant connect to piaget.moe.ac.sg.143: Refused <10061> > > > I tried to telnet to piaget.moe.ac.sg 143 but to no avail. > > Must I run something at port 143? and what is it? > How do I run it in Solaris2.3? Yes, you must run impad on port 143. When you built pine the imapd would also have been built in the impad directory. You should move this file to someplace like /usr/local/bin and then make an entry such as: imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/bin/imapd imapd in your inetd.conf file. After you do that you need to find the PID of inetd and send simply do a kill -1 on that PID. Then you should be able to telnet hostname 143 and get a greeting similar to: Connected to hobbes. Escape character is '^]'. * OK hobbes IMAP2bis Service 7.8(92) at Mon, 7 Nov 1994 09:24:50 -0800 (GMT) That's it.... Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 18:03:07 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00239; Sun, 6 Nov 94 18:03:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14178; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:58:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14172; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:58:17 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06543; Sun, 6 Nov 94 17:58:13 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 17:58:11 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Chip Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .addressbook won't prYnt in 3.91 In-Reply-To: <39e6ep$939@clarknet.clark.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chip, Do you have the feature "preserve-start-stop-characters" set? If not, what happens when you do? -teg On 4 Nov 1994, Chip Davis wrote: > When I try to prYnt my .addressbook in Pine 3.91, it gets about half-way > down the page, then skips about a page-worth of entries before > continuing. I checked .addressbook for something unusual at the point > where it skips, but all's well. If I drop back to Pine 3.89 and prYnt > the same .addressbook, it comes out perfect. I'm encountering no other > printing anomalies associated with attached-to-ANSI printing. > > Is this a known bug? > -- > Chip Davis : chip@clark.net : Rexx Language Association : Team OS/2 > PP-ASEL/IA : Cessna 172A N7650T : Wolf Airport (1W5) : "Oshkosh '95 Bound" > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 18:37:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00785; Sun, 6 Nov 94 18:37:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15672; Sun, 6 Nov 94 18:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15666; Sun, 6 Nov 94 18:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4JYN-00000JC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 18:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) Subject: Re: HELP: bugs in pine3.91 under solaris 5.3 Date: 6 Nov 1994 21:03:54 -0500 Message-Id: <39k1ua$80o@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> References: In article , >You've been bit by the wonderful Solaris ``I dunno which library to link, >so I'll guess the wrong one'' bug. This problem has been bedeviling us >for ages. The Collective Wisdom Of The Net has been applied, and nothing >has worked. Or rather, worked for everyone. > >We found ourselves with a situation in which the c-client/imapd programmer >(me) can correctly build imapd but not Pine, and the Pine programmer can >correctly build Pine but not c-client -- with no apparent differences in >our environments!! > >The basic problem is that Solaris has two environments, BSD and SVR4, each >with a slightly different directory entry structure that is offset from >each other by two bytes. Pine on Solaris is SVR4, but for some reason the >!@#$%^&* Solaris linker decides to link it to be BSD. The "collective wisdom of the net", eh? Did you try reading the Solaris FAQ? 6.10) Why doesn't readdir work? You're probably linking with libucb and didn't read the previous question. (The readdir in libucb.so wants you to include sys/dir.h, many SunOS 4.1.x programs included , consequently, you're mixing native struct dirent with libucb readdir(). The symptom of this mixup is that the first two characters of each filename are missing. Make sure you use the native compiler (default /opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc, which may not be in your PATH), and not /usr/ucb/cc. IMHO you should trust that use user has the correct path, and 'cc' is indeed the right C compiler. I bet that one of you if you were to say "which cc" returns "/usr/ucb/cc". If you try to build Pine with /usr/ucb/cc you WILL have trouble. I'd just put a warning message if you type 'build sol' that warns that you can't use /usr/ucb/cc. In fact you could even hack the build script to return an error if [ `which cc` = "/usr/ucb/cc" ].). --Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 19:41:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01833; Sun, 6 Nov 94 19:41:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15408; Sun, 6 Nov 94 19:37:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15402; Sun, 6 Nov 94 19:37:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4KcY-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: FORWARDED LETTER Date: 6 Nov 1994 18:23:53 GMT Message-Id: <39j6vp$8v6@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: In article , Cher Wai Pang says: > > >I recently sent a letter to a friend, and he has >programmed his mail handler (I don't know if it is PINE) to automatically >send out a message to people who e-mail him telling them he is not >available. Anyone can tell me if this can be done with PINE 3.90? If the machine is UNIX-based, chance is that he uses a program called 'vacation'. Try 'man vacation' on your system for the usage. Regards, Supak Lailert lailert@ucssun1.sdsu.edu lailert@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 21:39:39 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03882; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:39:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18066; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:35:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18060; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:35:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4MNk-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: philos@crl.com (Chris Byrd) Subject: Re: filter Date: 3 Nov 1994 08:09:58 -0800 Message-Id: <39b20m$bgd@crl10.crl.com> References: Jorge Paramo (paramoj@river.it.gvsu.edu) wrote: : Hi there; : I know this has been discussed before, but I cannot find it. Is : there a way to filter msgs from certain people so they don't reach the : inbox? - I am using Pine 3.90 (Adm will not update). : Any ideas suggestions will be greatly eppreciated. You need to get a program called procmail.. the actual filename is 'procmail.tar.gz'. I don't have an address for it off hand, try doing an archie or webcraller search for it. Chris -- /~~/ "Who's that? Oh, my little friend Cupid, wearing a /~~~/ '/_ shirt that says I'm with stupid. Always nearby where- / /~////_/_)~ ever I go. He's looking out for me, don't you know." philos@crl.com -- MC900ftJesus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 21:56:45 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04159; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:56:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17359; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:53:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17353; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:53:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4Mik-00000JC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlfitz@cais2.cais.com (JLFITZ@cais) Subject: Addressbook Nicknames Needed? Date: 5 Nov 1994 02:38:48 GMT Message-Id: <39er7o$edr@news.cais.com> Is it necessary to use the nickname fields when entering data in the PINE address book? It gets real annoying trying to think of a nickname for every litte entry... Also, how do you set the tabs to space a little less? Thanks anyone with information... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald jlfitz@cais.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * Real Life On-Line Help 24 Hrs a Day... Jesus@Heaven.God * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 22:21:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04696; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:21:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18669; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:16:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18663; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:16:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4N07-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 21:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matt@exeter.sewanee.edu (Matt Laney) Subject: Re: How to force pine-3.91 to see that new mail has arrived? Date: 6 Nov 1994 22:00:45 GMT Message-Id: <39jjmd$n0h@cherub.sewanee.edu> References: Steven W Orr (steveo@world.std.com) rambled: : I have a biff that shows that new mail has arrived, but while I'm in : pine, pine doesn't know it cause 2.5 minutes have not yet elapsed. : Result is that I end up having to get out and back into pine to force : the new mail to be seen. Any keystroke to make it happen on the fly? Try ^l. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 22:42:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05035; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:42:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18963; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:39:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18957; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:39:18 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10120; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:39:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 22:39:15 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: jlfitz@cais2.cais.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Addressbook Nicknames Needed? In-Reply-To: <39er7o$edr@news.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, it is necessary. The nicknames are used as keys when looking up the entries in the address book. The spacing of the tabs isn't something you can control, either. Pine tries to set the spacing so that as much as possible of the fields will show, so shortening long fields will cause the spacing to be reduced. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 5 Nov 1994 jlfitz@cais2.cais.com wrote: > Is it necessary to use the nickname fields when entering data in > the PINE address book? It gets real annoying trying to think of a > nickname for every litte entry... > > Also, how do you set the tabs to space a little less? Thanks > anyone with information... > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jeffrey L. Fitzgerald > jlfitz@cais.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > * Real Life On-Line Help 24 Hrs a Day... Jesus@Heaven.God * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 22:52:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05185; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:52:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19075; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:49:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19069; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:49:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4Nct-00000JC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kld@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de (Klaus Desinger) Subject: Re: Pine running wild when user's session disconnected Date: 6 Nov 1994 02:36:52 +0100 Message-Id: <39hbvk$6v8@sat.ipp-garching.mpg.de> References: <3979mu$ha7@romulus.ncsc.mil> <39h80k$nrb@ns.oar.net> tigerwolf@jaguar.tigerden.com () writes: >Richard L. Hamilton (richh@romulus.ncsc.mil) wrote: >: I've noticed pine processes associated with users whose sessions >: ended with either a non-zero return code or a hangup signal running >: wild, i.e. apparently looping to no particular end, and eating CPU time >: (some hours after the login session had been terminated). >: I've got a wild guess that where it is looping is line 392 of >We've had no problems with 3,89 or 3.90, but have noticed this with 3.91. >We are running Linux 1.1.59 and are not running imapd. [...] We're still at 3.87 on Sun's Solaris. Same problem here. Any pointers are appreciated. Klaus -- Klaus Desinger email kld@ipp-garching.mpg.de Rechenzentrum Garching annoyance number +49 89-3299-2168 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Nov 6 22:52:40 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05206; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:52:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18092; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:49:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18086; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:49:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4Nav-00000IC; Sun, 6 Nov 94 22:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thang@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Thang M Nguyen) Subject: HELP: bugs in pine3.91 under solaris 5.3 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 1994 21:02:41 GMT I installed pine3.91 using 'build sv4' for System V version-4. Everythings seem to be working fine except folder listing. Whenever I type 'L' to list the folders, the first two characters of the folder-names, except the INBOX, do not display on the screen. And whenever I tried to open the folders or delete those folders, the error message was folders doesn't exist. Can anyone help me on this problem? Thanks in advace. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 01:57:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08853; Mon, 7 Nov 94 01:57:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20437; Mon, 7 Nov 94 01:52:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20431; Mon, 7 Nov 94 01:52:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4QKw-00000LC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 01:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: HELP: bugs in pine3.91 under solaris 5.3 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:30:06 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 4 Nov 1994, Thang M Nguyen wrote: > I installed pine3.91 using 'build sv4' for System V version-4. > Everythings seem to be working fine except folder listing. Whenever I > type 'L' to list the folders, the first two characters of the > folder-names, except the INBOX, do not display on the screen. And > whenever I tried to open the folders or delete those folders, the error > message was folders doesn't exist. Can anyone help me on this problem? Hello. First, you should use ``build sol'' instead of ``build sv4''. You've been bit by the wonderful Solaris ``I dunno which library to link, so I'll guess the wrong one'' bug. This problem has been bedeviling us for ages. The Collective Wisdom Of The Net has been applied, and nothing has worked. Or rather, worked for everyone. We found ourselves with a situation in which the c-client/imapd programmer (me) can correctly build imapd but not Pine, and the Pine programmer can correctly build Pine but not c-client -- with no apparent differences in our environments!! The basic problem is that Solaris has two environments, BSD and SVR4, each with a slightly different directory entry structure that is offset from each other by two bytes. Pine on Solaris is SVR4, but for some reason the !@#$%^&* Solaris linker decides to link it to be BSD. We've pulled hair on this for months. What makes things worse is that the outside Solaris world seems to be split just like we are: some can build imapd correctly but not Pine; others can build Pine correctly but not imapd. Then there are other lucky people who can build both. The cc5 hack (courtesy of the Collected Wisdom Of The Net) used to build Pine works fine for the Pine programmer, but not for me. cc works fine for me when building imapd, but not when building a short C program that demonstrates the problem. As far as we know, SUN denies that there is anything at all wrong. It's probably some wierd environment variable that needs to be set, but we're stumped. It is an abomination that SUN dares to ship a system in which a program can be compiled SVR4, but lunk BSD, without generating any ``incompatible library'' error messages. I'm embarassed enough about this problem (it's my code that's getting confused), but SUN should be ashamed that their development tools permit it to happen. The binaries on our FTP server are built correctly. Unless you need to have locally-built binaries, you may want to use our pre-built Solaris binaries instead. We're aware of the problem, and careful to test our Solaris binaries to make sure they've been built correctly. Thank you for bearing with us. Sooner or later, we'll find out what's wrong and fix it once and for all. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 05:49:57 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14417; Mon, 7 Nov 94 05:49:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24505; Mon, 7 Nov 94 05:38:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gatekeeper.sial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24499; Mon, 7 Nov 94 05:38:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (schuchas@localhost) by gatekeeper.sial.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA03096; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 07:29:13 -0600 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 07:29:13 -0600 (CST) From: Stanley Schuchat To: Bob Little , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem printing In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ***Upgrading to Chameleon 4.01 solved the problem!! On Fri, 4 Nov 1994, Stanley Schuchat wrote: > When I print from a Telnet window in MS-Windows, using the "Y" command, > The output consists of one line with no carrige returns, using most > printers. Using the "text" printer in MS-Windows the print starts OK, but > only prints 80 or so characters, with carriage returns handled correctly. > I am using Chameleon 3.11N as my PPP connection and my Telnet app. Anyone > solved this problem? > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Stanley Schuchat | Sigma Chemical Company > Analyst, Competition Department | 3050 Spruce, St Louis, MO 63103 > schuchas@spruce.sial.com | (314)771-5765 x2624 > > > On Thu, 3 Nov 1994, Bob Little wrote: > > > > > I am having the same problem using Windows Terminal, dialing in. I have > > tried the "Preserve-stop-start" option to no avail. After closing the > > session, then Windows dumps pages of garbage to the printer. Only > > happens with 3.91. Hmmmm. > > > > When attached to a LAN, it's not an issue. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Robert Little, Director | __|__ |rlittle@eagle.lhup.edu > > Computing Center | --------(*)-------- |Piper Arrow II N32429 > > Lock Haven University | " " |"Time Flies, Go Fast!" > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > When we print out a message to "1" "attached-to-ansi", it will cause our > > > local printer to start flashing (print coming) and then stop...no print-out > > > I was wondering if any of you gurus had any brilliant ideas about this, > > > or if anybody got this problem! > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 07:34:59 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16646; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:34:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25970; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:20:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from c700-1.sm.dsi.unimi.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25964; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:20:49 -0800 Received: by pippo.sm.dsi.unimi.it (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA21358; Mon, 7 Nov 94 16:20:21 +0100 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 16:20:18 +0100 (MET) From: "Michele \"BaNzO\" Zamboni" X-Sender: zamboni@c700-1.sm.dsi.unimi.it To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: READING NEWS Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Is there a way to Unsubscribe/Subscribe a pattern of newsgroups ? Thanx for the help, BaNzO =========================================================================== = NickName : Michele "BaNzO" Zamboni = = URL : http://www.dsi.unimi.it/Users/Students/zamboni/home.html = =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 07:43:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16855; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:43:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24863; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:24:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24857; Mon, 7 Nov 94 07:24:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4VQO-00000hC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 06:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wclam@cs.cuhk.hk/a/./a/./a/. (/\/\arcus La/\/\ ) Subject: .forward problem... Message-Id: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 1994 03:30:24 GMT Hello All, I have a simple problem. Currently I have 2 mail addresses, say A and B. The problem is, how could I forward my incoming mails at A to B WITHOUT deleting them at A? That is, I can still read at A? Thanks! -- ----------------------- Repent, for the kingdom of the heavens has drawn nigh! Marcus Lam Wing Chuen Internet: wclam@cs.cuhk.hk or maranatha@cuhk.hk ----------------------------------------------------------------- Matthew 4:17 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 08:55:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20176; Mon, 7 Nov 94 08:55:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26234; Mon, 7 Nov 94 08:32:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from medusa.unm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26226; Mon, 7 Nov 94 08:32:51 -0800 Received: from MEDUSA.UNM.EDU by MEDUSA.UNM.EDU (PMDF V4.3-10 #5028) id <01HJ6YQIVJOG000WF8@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU>; Mon, 07 Nov 1994 09:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 09:32:45 -0600 (MDT) From: "Stephen F. Day UNM HSCCS" Subject: Pine email (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: HSCCS Help Desk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The following was sent to me by one of our staff. I am hoping someone out there has an answer to this. We are just beginning to use VMS Pine (from Innosoft) at our site. Since we are subscribed to your listserv, please direct your response to helpdesk@medusa.unm.edu. I know the "<>" is another representation of "[]" for directory specifications; however, most of our users know only of the square brackets for this purpose. Can we change this from "<>" to "[]"? Finally, can a default path be used rather than the path that it originated from? Thanks! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stephen F. Day (SFD7) VOICE: (505) 277-1698 Health Sciences Ctr Computer Svcs BITNET: SDAY@MEDUSA University of New Mexico INTERNET: sday@medusa.unm.edu Albuquerque, NM 87131-5052 sday@salud.unm.edu =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 13:37:22 -0600 (MDT) From: HSCCS Help Desk Consultants To: sday Subject: Pine email I know this isn't high priority for you but... I think that Pine will be useful for sending files (particulary binary files) through email. I know at least one person per class asks for this capibility. And [name omitted] would be most impressed if he could have this. I've been working with it trying to send a binary file (which works just fine). However, when you tell Pine to save it, it fills in the path and username of the _sender_ of the file. For example, I sent a file from MCCSDESK to CDEAN. As CDEAN, I view the attachment, and tell PINE to save that section as a file. It fills in the following as the default filename: filename.ext I can edit the <> as well as the username to correct it, but there must be a better way. I have looked at the pine.pinerc in both my Unix and VMS account and cannot see where the <> is coming from, nor where to specify a default save directory. I did change the Folder-Collections and Mail-directory, to no avail. Any ideas? Cyndi ************************************************************************ HSCCS Help Desk Voice: (505) 277-1694 Helpdesk Consultants & Liaisons Bitnet/CREN: HELPDESK@MEDUSA Health Sciences Ctr Computer Services Internet: helpdesk@medusa.UNM.EDU University of New Mexico Fax: (505) 277-5683 ************************************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 11:13:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27632; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:13:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01526; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:04:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01520; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:04:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4Z1u-00000IC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 10:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ceb4@eng.cam.ac.uk (Caroline Blackmun) Subject: Wrong timezone in Pine Date field Date: 7 Nov 1994 18:35:20 GMT Message-Id: <39ls18$qtv@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I'm running Pine 3.89 under HP-UX 9.01 on various 700 series HPs. The timezone (TZ) is set to GMT0BST. The UK reverted to GMT on 23rd October, and all other programs on our systems are correctly reporting the time in GMT (including sendmail and other MUAs). However, Pine is creating date stamps of the form: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:08:54 +0100 (BST) where the actual time is in GMT (i.e. it was 17:08 local time when the mail was sent), and hence the time is an hour out. Is there some configuration I've missed to fix this? I couldn't find anything in the FAQ, or anything in the 3.91 release notes to suggest 3.91 fixes this. Caroline Blackmun ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caroline Blackmun, Postmaster | Tel: +44 1223 330265 Cambridge University Engineering Dept | Trumpington St, Cambridge, CB2 1PZ, UK | Email: ceb4@eng.cam.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 11:35:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28839; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:35:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02028; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:24:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigcat.missouri.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02022; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:24:46 -0800 Received: by bigcat.missouri.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22896; Mon, 7 Nov 94 13:24:41 CST Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 13:24:41 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin D. Brand" Subject: pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will pine mail work with on a system with Ultrix-32 v3.1b? What port will work best on Ultrix-32 v3.1b? thank you Kevin D. Brand Computer Technician & Lab Manager Central Methodist College Phone: (816) 248-3392 ext. 258/367 Fax: (816) 248-1634 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 11:58:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00166; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:58:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02690; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:50:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02684; Mon, 7 Nov 94 11:50:18 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: PORTIA@INNOSOFT.COM Resent-Message-Id: <9411071950.AA02684@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V4.3-13 #2001) id <01HJ72HSUX829VV51U@INNOSOFT.COM>; Mon, 07 Nov 1994 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 07 Nov 1994 11:20:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pine email (fwd) In-Reply-To: Resent-To: SDAY@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU To: "Stephen F. Day UNM HSCCS" Resent-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, helpdesk@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, HSCCS Help Desk Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Stephen F. Day UNM HSCCS wrote: > The following was sent to me by one of our staff. I am hoping someone > out there has an answer to this. We are just beginning to use VMS Pine > (from Innosoft) at our site. Since we are subscribed to your listserv, please, send this to us (service@innosoft.com) since you know you got Pine from Innosoft, not to the good pine people at UW who are not responsible for Pine on VMS. They may not mind, but I feel quilty everytime I see one of these which should be addressed to me. > please direct your response to helpdesk@medusa.unm.edu. > > I know the "<>" is another representation of "[]" for directory > specifications; however, most of our users know only of the square > brackets for this purpose. Can we change this from "<>" to "[]"? not easily, because Pine assigned special meaning for [] before it ever ran on VMS. This may be possible, but it is certainly low on my list of things to do to Pine. Functionality is more important than cosmetics. > > Finally, can a default path be used rather than the path that it > originated from? > > Thanks! > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Stephen F. Day (SFD7) VOICE: (505) 277-1698 > Health Sciences Ctr Computer Svcs BITNET: SDAY@MEDUSA > University of New Mexico INTERNET: sday@medusa.unm.edu > Albuquerque, NM 87131-5052 sday@salud.unm.edu > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Fri, 04 Nov 1994 13:37:22 -0600 (MDT) > From: HSCCS Help Desk Consultants > To: sday > Subject: Pine email > > I know this isn't high priority for you but... > I think that Pine will be useful for sending files (particulary binary > files) through email. I know at least one person per class asks for this > capibility. And [name omitted] would be most impressed if he could have > this. > > I've been working with it trying to send a binary file (which works just > fine). However, when you tell Pine to save it, it fills in the path and > username of the _sender_ of the file. For example, I sent a file from > MCCSDESK to CDEAN. As CDEAN, I view the attachment, and tell PINE to > save that section as a file. It fills in the following as the default > filename: > filename.ext this is the default because when the sender sends the message with Pine, the file name becomes part of the description of this attachment, and it is a perfectly reasonable name to use as a default (what else could be reasonable?) filename. I would probably agree that the directory and disk names are not always useful, but that all is part of the filename, and I can think of many cases where the directory would be a reasonable default when saving the part also. So the user is given the choice to change it to whatever he wants. > I can edit the <> as well as the username to correct it, but there must > be a better way. as for the difference between <> and [], Pine, being started on UNIX, uses [] for special meaning as a description when you attach a file, the fact that VMS uses [] as directory delimiter only makes it parse incorrectly. So I chose the alternate VMS directory spec <>. > I have looked at the pine.pinerc in both my Unix and VMS account and > cannot see where the <> is coming from, nor where to specify a default > save directory. > I did change the Folder-Collections and Mail-directory, to no > avail. > Any ideas? maybe an additional option would be nice. yup, and since this is not a VMS-specific request, it would be proper to address this to pine-info. > > Cyndi > > ************************************************************************ > HSCCS Help Desk Voice: (505) 277-1694 > Helpdesk Consultants & Liaisons Bitnet/CREN: HELPDESK@MEDUSA > Health Sciences Ctr Computer Services Internet: helpdesk@medusa.UNM.EDU > University of New Mexico Fax: (505) 277-5683 > ************************************************************************ > > > /portia portia@innosoft.com Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 14:34:19 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06864; Mon, 7 Nov 94 14:34:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04378; Mon, 7 Nov 94 14:24:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04372; Mon, 7 Nov 94 14:24:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4cDA-00000FC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 14:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cher Wai Pang Subject: FORWARDED LETTER Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 16:22:02 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently sent a letter to a friend, and he has programmed his mail handler (I don't know if it is PINE) to automatically send out a message to people who e-mail him telling them he is not available. Anyone can tell me if this can be done with PINE 3.90? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 18:51:36 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17260; Mon, 7 Nov 94 18:51:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12137; Mon, 7 Nov 94 18:47:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12127; Mon, 7 Nov 94 18:47:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4f6F-000017C; Mon, 7 Nov 94 17:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Subject: pine 3.91 NFS locking on IRIX5.2 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:48:53 GMT I had recently posted in comp.sys.sgi.apps about how pine 3.87 locks up when opening/saving to mailboxes over NFS, under IRIX 5.2 I received the suggestion from more than 1 person to upgrade pine to 3.9, and build using the "EXTRADRIVERS=mbox" option. I compiled pine3.91 yesterday, using the mbox option. The problem is exactly the same as before. Whenever mail is saved to another box, or I open any box except my INBOX (/usr/mail/csaldanh), pine locks up, apparently when trying to NFS lock that mailbox. It locks up, so that it can't be killed with ^C or suspended with ^Z. It must be killed -9. It screws up NFS so bad that I sometimes can't log back into the machine. It trys forever to mount my home directory. The machine must be rebooted. This does not happen under IRIX 4.0.5, on the same network/account. 4.0.5 works just fine (presumably because it is SVR3). I am having to read mail via IMAP mailboxes to get around this. It means that all the users must be validated each time they start pine, just to read their mail. I don't want to have to do that. Any ideas? I would prefer to get pine running via NFS again. --Chris Chris Saldanha | "Can I tell you what makes love Carleton University (Comp. Sci) | so frigtening? csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (NeXT/MIME) | Its that you don't own it. chris@computerActive.on.ca (NeXTMail) | It owns you." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 19:38:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18275; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:38:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10190; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:34:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10184; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4flf-00000uC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 17:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Pine 3.91 bug in .newsrc updating, and workaround Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 10:38:12 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A bug has been discovered in .newsrc updating in Pine 3.91. If the user opens a newsgroup that is not currently in the .newsrc file (via the G command), deletes some messages, and then quits, Pine will write a line to the .newsrc that is not terminated with a newline. The workaround for this problem is to subscribe to new newsgroups before opening them. Subscribing writes a proper .newsrc line which is then updated properly. This bug is fixed in Pine 3.92. -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 20:01:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18842; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:01:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13137; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13130; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:57:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4g0e-00000vC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 18:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chip@clark.net (Chip Davis) Subject: Re: .addressbook won't prYnt in 3.91 Date: 7 Nov 1994 18:52:48 GMT Message-Id: <39lt20$bqk@clarknet.clark.net> References: <39e6ep$939@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Terry. That did the trick. I saw the help for that feature, but since I wasn't having the garbled output to the screen symptom, I didn't think that was my problem. It might not be a bad idea to add a mention of the 'attached-to-ANSI' problem to that help entry. Is there a downside to setting that feature on? I figure it's not the default for some reason. Thanks again for the quick response and solution. -Chip- On Mon, 7 Nov 1994 01:58:11 GMT, Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Do you have the feature "preserve-start-stop-characters" set? : If not, what happens when you do? : On 4 Nov 1994, Chip Davis wrote: : > When I try to prYnt my .addressbook in Pine 3.91, it gets about half-way : > down the page, then skips about a page-worth of entries before : > continuing. I checked .addressbook for something unusual at the point : > where it skips, but all's well. If I drop back to Pine 3.89 and prYnt : > the same .addressbook, it comes out perfect. I'm encountering no other : > printing anomalies associated with attached-to-ANSI printing. -- Chip Davis : chip@clark.net : Rexx Language Association : Team OS/2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 20:24:07 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19526; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:24:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10878; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:20:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10872; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:20:15 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07726; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:20:11 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 20:20:10 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Chip Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .addressbook won't prYnt in 3.91 In-Reply-To: <39lt20$bqk@clarknet.clark.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chip, The downside to setting the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature (and the reason it's not the default) is that if someone accidentally types a Ctl-S (XOFF), or line noise is interpreted as one, then Pine will mysteriously freeze with no warning, unless/until a Control-Q is received. If you have the option of configuring your equipment and comm software for h/w flow control, then you can have the best of both worlds... But if you have a device or software that requires software flow-control, there is no alternative but to accept this risk. -teg On 7 Nov 1994, Chip Davis wrote: > Thanks, Terry. That did the trick. I saw the help for that feature, but > since I wasn't having the garbled output to the screen symptom, I didn't > think that was my problem. It might not be a bad idea to add a mention > of the 'attached-to-ANSI' problem to that help entry. > > Is there a downside to setting that feature on? I figure it's not the > default for some reason. > > Thanks again for the quick response and solution. > > -Chip- > > On Mon, 7 Nov 1994 01:58:11 GMT, Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > : Do you have the feature "preserve-start-stop-characters" set? > : If not, what happens when you do? > > : On 4 Nov 1994, Chip Davis wrote: > : > When I try to prYnt my .addressbook in Pine 3.91, it gets about half-way > : > down the page, then skips about a page-worth of entries before > : > continuing. I checked .addressbook for something unusual at the point > : > where it skips, but all's well. If I drop back to Pine 3.89 and prYnt > : > the same .addressbook, it comes out perfect. I'm encountering no other > : > printing anomalies associated with attached-to-ANSI printing. > > -- > Chip Davis : chip@clark.net : Rexx Language Association : Team OS/2 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 20:25:59 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19569; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:25:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10949; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:22:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10943; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:22:07 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07767; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:22:00 -0800 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 20:21:59 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Chris Saldanha Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.91 NFS locking on IRIX5.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Chris Saldanha wrote: > I am having to read mail via IMAP mailboxes to get around this. It > means that all the users must be validated each time they start pine, > just to read their mail. I don't want to have to do that. Chris, Why not use rsh preauthentication with your IMAP server? Then you can avoid the locking hassles of NFS and also avoid a separate login. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 21:33:42 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21104; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:33:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11910; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:30:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11904; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:30:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4hA2-00000iC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nguyend@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (DizzyGypsy) Subject: [urgent help] compiled pine or sun_os Date: 7 Nov 1994 19:19:59 GMT Message-Id: <39lukv$1379@quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca> Hello everyone, I'm looking for a 'pine' program for my SunOS Release 4.0.3_Export Generic The system is very cruelly set up so there is no compiler nor gunzip utilities in place just yet. so if you know where I can get (we have not installed 'ftp' yet either) please let me know. The best way is to send me a compiled verion of pine to ale@frodo.mece.ualberta.ca Also, if you know where I can get Pico (the editor) then your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance. Andy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 22:02:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21648; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:02:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14950; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:58:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14944; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:58:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4hiR-00001JC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@fuzzy.dialup.access.net (Fuzzy) Subject: Re: mkpgp available by finger Date: 8 Nov 1994 03:55:46 GMT Message-Id: <39mss2$563@news.panix.com> References: <1994Nov5.190654.275@titan.sfasu.edu> J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote: finger: unknown host: lipschitz.sfasu.edu 11/07/94 22:48:31: [m0r4hWr-0003aSC] deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu ... deferred: (ERR_164) router match_mx_hosts: BIND server failure: Nameserver: Server failure: Unknown error can not finger or email you? thoughts?? Your Friend, _____ __ __ ____ ____ __ __ / ___// // //__ )/__ )\ \/ / / __/ / // / / /__ / /__\ / (_/ (____/ <____/<____//_/ Email: fuzzy@fuzzy.dialup.access.net (non-anon) an72289@anon.penet.fi (true anon) wi.687@wizvax.com (true anon) anon-2986@twwells.com (true anon) ================================================================= -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAi4RAFMAAAEEANX2Ag3Tpif6YQMcB380Fb4azUfD6Me+eLYen62KT+IOPRby Sv8znFUT6UDNV7/YYVa8WpnGaDh2mry5UmoqvNkWZ1ngcl2x6wbOvJnunohDpEG8 gqxZ7mGP6G+ejRyT/kULNV96G9q/zlcJMCJD9La6KRlwo/U6s4TbvzdMEt9NAAUR tCVGdXp6eSA8ZnV6enlAZnV6enkuZGlhbHVwLmFjY2Vzcy5uZXQ+ =W71C -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 22:03:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21685; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:03:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12283; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12277; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:58:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4hiV-00001KC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 19:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sami Mikhail Subject: Pine 3.91 - News Questions. Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 13:34:46 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have some NewBie questions. Answers, or pointers to answers would be greatly appreciated. [Questions based on the fact that I used to use tin for Newsreader, but Pine 3.91 is so much more user-friendly and usable!] 1. Is there a flag to get Pine to mark articles I have read as 'read' and not redisplay them when I go back into the group? (I know how to do it for mail and move it my 'read' folder, but have not found anything on News...) 2. Is there a way to sort incoming mail one way (say by arrival) and news folders another way (say ordered subject)? 3. Is there any way to get the number of unread articles in a newsgroup at the folder list? Thanks in advance for any and all assitance. Sami Mikhail (mikhail@unicomp.net) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 22:46:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22622; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:46:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15567; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15561; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:42:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4iSP-00001HC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 20:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark A Stephan Subject: HELP: removing name expanding in To: Pine V3.91 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 15:41:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering if there was a way to stop Pine V3.91 from expanding the To: field when you put a groupname in it. For example, if you type "workgroup" in the To: field, you may get 30 names...what if you don't want to print out all 30 names? Could you just put the "workgroup" in the Bcc field? I know that would be a little cumbersome, but i guess it would work...any suggestions? email appreciated -mark Mark Stephan The University of Michigan markstep@engin.umich.edu computer engineering @chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu The U of M Solar Car Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 22:48:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22665; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:48:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12862; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12856; Mon, 7 Nov 94 22:44:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4im0-00001WC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 21:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikhail@utic.unicomp.net (Sami Mikhail) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 - News Questions. Date: 7 Nov 1994 20:35:49 GMT Message-Id: <39m335$la1@ns1.unicomp.net> References: Sorry remembered one more questions: Is there a way to implement a kill file, or the equivalent thereof? -- Sami Mikhail (mikhail@unicomp.net) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Nov 7 23:10:04 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23017; Mon, 7 Nov 94 23:10:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15861; Mon, 7 Nov 94 23:05:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15855; Mon, 7 Nov 94 23:05:25 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:02:09 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:02:09 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Fuzzy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mkpgp available by finger In-Reply-To: <39mss2$563@news.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Nov 1994, Fuzzy wrote: > J. Kelly Cunningham (deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu) wrote: > > finger: unknown host: lipschitz.sfasu.edu > > 11/07/94 22:48:31: [m0r4hWr-0003aSC] deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu ... > deferred: (ERR_164) router match_mx_hosts: BIND server failure: > Nameserver: Server failure: Unknown error > > can not finger or email you? > > thoughts?? Sure....fix your DNS :-) Works from way over here in Taiwan.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 00:06:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24252; Tue, 8 Nov 94 00:06:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13796; Tue, 8 Nov 94 00:01:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13790; Tue, 8 Nov 94 00:01:15 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10867; Tue, 8 Nov 94 00:01:11 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 00:01:06 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Sami Mikhail Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 - News Questions. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Sami Mikhail wrote: > I have some NewBie questions. Answers, or pointers to answers would be > greatly appreciated. > [Questions based on the fact that I used to use tin for Newsreader, but > Pine 3.91 is so much more user-friendly and usable!] > > 1. Is there a flag to get Pine to mark articles I have read as 'read' > and not redisplay them when I go back into the group? (I know how to do > it for mail and move it my 'read' folder, but have not found anything on > News...) At the moment the "read-message" folder feature only applies to INBOX, and not to newsgroups. Note that Pine, unlike some other newsreaders, doesn't cause messages to disappear simply because they have been viewed once. If you don't want to see them again, you mark them Deleted, just as in mail. Since the newsrc file is used to record which messages you've marked as deleted, it can't accurately record exactly which ones you've seen. However, you might find the "news-approximates-new-status" feature useful. > 2. Is there a way to sort incoming mail one way (say by arrival) and news > folders another way (say ordered subject)? Not at this time. > 3. Is there any way to get the number of unread articles in a newsgroup > at the folder list? Not at this time. > Thanks in advance for any and all assitance. You're welcome. -teg p.s. Re your subsequent msg: Kill files are not supported. Sorry. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 02:09:50 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27048; Tue, 8 Nov 94 02:09:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15278; Tue, 8 Nov 94 01:55:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15272; Tue, 8 Nov 94 01:55:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4l8b-00001WC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 23:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@coyote.rain.org (L. E. de Rivaud) Subject: How to add HEADERS ? Date: 7 Nov 1994 23:02:24 -0800 Message-Id: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> I have tried to add a header that says, (w/o quotes), "Reply-To:username@address" and I don't seem to be able to do it. I tried by starting Pine and then choosing Config then Setup (or is it Setup then Config?) Anyway... I got a message to the effect, "Headers not found. Using default header information." or something like that. So then I tried editing the .pinerc file in my home dir and got the same message. HELP! Please tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks. -- L. E. de Rivaud rivaud@rain.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 02:10:07 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27077; Tue, 8 Nov 94 02:10:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18089; Tue, 8 Nov 94 01:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18083; Tue, 8 Nov 94 01:51:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4kjx-00001JC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 23:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lawless@sea.geog.ucsb.edu (Michael Lawless) Subject: HPUX and Pine. Cursor Problem. Date: 7 Nov 1994 22:26:55 GMT Message-Id: <39m9jf$fq@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> For some reason, the cursor keys don't work for Pine on my HP workstation. Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a solution? -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Lawless |Remote Sensing Research Unit lawless@geog.ucsb.edu |Geography Department, UCSB "I dream in infra-red." |Santa Barbara, CA 93106 --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.1 mQBtAy6cMUoAAAEDAKbpkQa9zQOnykFKAcAO6J1ZO8N6yZcAiIS6Vg8/aTI44NmO 9Gt1p0a4M+6Wpy5PMlnZPjqlH6JSK8bqPApaVcLMEnmP5Vy7k+uLzExPP6MEptBH uWBcXF1qIZRU0zEjmQAFEbQqTWljaGFlbCBKLiBMYXdsZXNzIDxsYXdsZXNzQGdl b2cudWNzYi5lZHU+ =yV8M -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 03:14:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28497; Tue, 8 Nov 94 03:14:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19002; Tue, 8 Nov 94 03:06:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18996; Tue, 8 Nov 94 03:06:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4mHF-00001gC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 00:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hlavaty@panix.com (Arthur Hlavaty) Subject: Re: Addressbook Nicknames Needed? Date: 7 Nov 1994 18:36:45 -0500 Message-Id: <39mdmd$t69@panix.com> References: <39er7o$edr@news.cais.com> Brad (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: : On 5 Nov 1994 jlfitz@cais2.cais.com wrote: : > Is it necessary to use the nickname fields when entering data in : > the PINE address book? It gets real annoying trying to think of a : > nickname for every litte entry... : Uh, yes, you need a nickname for each entry. What would be the : point in the address book, otherwise?! To have a record of what address goes with what name. -- Arthur D. Hlavaty hlavaty@panix.com Church of the SuperGenius In Wile E. We Trust From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 04:25:16 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00763; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:25:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17166; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:12:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17160; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:12:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4oPP-00000JC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 03:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Wrong timezone in Pine Date field Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 16:25:43 -0800 Message-Id: References: <39ls18$qtv@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39ls18$qtv@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> The timezone code has been completely rewritten since Pine 3.89. In particular I believe the HP port did have a bug like you describe... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Nov 1994, Caroline Blackmun wrote: > Date: 7 NOV 1994 18:35:20 GMT > From: Caroline Blackmun > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Wrong timezone in Pine Date field > > I'm running Pine 3.89 under HP-UX 9.01 on various 700 series HPs. > > The timezone (TZ) is set to GMT0BST. The UK reverted to GMT on 23rd > October, and all other programs on our systems are correctly reporting > the time in GMT (including sendmail and other MUAs). However, Pine is > creating date stamps of the form: > > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 17:08:54 +0100 (BST) > > where the actual time is in GMT (i.e. it was 17:08 local time when the > mail was sent), and hence the time is an hour out. > > Is there some configuration I've missed to fix this? I couldn't find > anything in the FAQ, or anything in the 3.91 release notes to suggest > 3.91 fixes this. > > Caroline Blackmun > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Caroline Blackmun, Postmaster | Tel: +44 1223 330265 > Cambridge University Engineering Dept | > Trumpington St, Cambridge, CB2 1PZ, UK | Email: ceb4@eng.cam.ac.uk > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 04:26:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00800; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:26:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20095; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:12:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20088; Tue, 8 Nov 94 04:12:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4oQg-00000hC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 03:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@fuzzy.dialup.access.net (Fuzzy) Subject: cmsg cancel <39mss2$563@news.panix.com> Control: cancel <39mss2$563@news.panix.com> Date: 8 Nov 1994 11:09:19 GMT Message-Id: <39nm8v$q89@news.panix.com> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 06:21:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03208; Tue, 8 Nov 94 06:21:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18628; Tue, 8 Nov 94 06:09:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18622; Tue, 8 Nov 94 06:09:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4qRR-00000BC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 05:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Roch Subject: Relative impact of imap/pc clients vs telnet/pine sessions Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Nov 1994 12:01:20 GMT Take a multiuser machine, say a Sun 4/370. If it can support N pc users who telnet in and run a continuous pine session, it can presumably support M x N pc users were they all to adopt an IMAP based PC mua. Any guesses on the value of M? (We get N up to 40 or so on the model suggested). Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 07:43:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04818; Tue, 8 Nov 94 07:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19455; Tue, 8 Nov 94 07:08:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cortex.isg-us.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19449; Tue, 8 Nov 94 07:08:14 -0800 Received: by cortex.isg-us.com (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15331; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:06:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:09:01 EST From: Armand Doucette Reply-To: Armand.Doucette@isg-us.com Subject: From or Reply-To address incorrect To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII My question/problem has to do with From and Reply-To addresses. I'm running PINE version 3.89 on a VMS host(the Bourvine port) talking to an IMAP server on a UNIX box. When I compose a message, the From address is created using the username on the VMS host. I'm told that PINE on UNIX works the same way. If I do not modify the "user-domain" variable in the pine.conf file, then the address is repliable. That is, the username and hostname for the From address are taken from the VMS client. What I would like is for either the From address or a Reply-to address(this does not get created now) to be the address(username and hostname) of the account on the IMAP server. One other thing to note is that the usernames on the VMS "client" are not the same as the associated account on the IMAP server box. For example, John Smith user may have an account on the VMS system with a username "smith" while on the IMAP server, his username is "john". If I could get the From address or the Reply-to address to use the username on the server, I could modify the "user-domain" flag on the client so that the hostname is not used in the >From address which would result an appropriate reply address to the server(username@domain) via an MX record. Any help you could offer would be much appreciated. I would even consider altering the code if that's what must be done and if you could point me in the right direction. Armand International Software Group, Inc. 100 Fifth Avenue Waltham, MA 02154 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 08:08:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05601; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:08:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19942; Tue, 8 Nov 94 07:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19936; Tue, 8 Nov 94 07:41:18 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA01919; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:37:53 EST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:34:22 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Message-ID in Pine Sun Binary To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A quick question which probably has a simple solution that I don't see. I just upgraded from 3.05 to 3.91 and now the Message-ID does not contain the complete FQDN but just the hostname. I have tried a few of the options which I thought should have an effect but nothing seems to work. Is there a way to get the fully qualified name without doing a compile? Thanks. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 08:56:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07183; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:56:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23618; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:26:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23612; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:26:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4szH-00000BC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 08:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@fuzzy.dialup.access.net (Fuzzy) Subject: cmsg cancel <39mnbb$563@news.panix.com> Control: cancel <39mnbb$563@news.panix.com> Date: 8 Nov 1994 03:45:23 GMT Message-Id: <39ms8j$563@news.panix.com> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 09:39:08 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09331; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:39:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24750; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:09:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.edmonton.ab.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24744; Tue, 8 Nov 94 09:09:36 -0800 Received: by freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/FEAC1.002) id AA22730; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:02:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:02:18 -0700 (MST) From: Dieter Simader To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Answer flag in folder index (PINE 3.91) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have noticed that the answer flag does not show up when I reply to message and then move the message to another folder. any remedies, other than moving the mail first and then replying? dieter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 11:13:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13763; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:13:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24423; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:02:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24417; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:02:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4vSK-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adaniel@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Amirtham Daniel) Subject: tech writer Date: 7 Nov 1994 00:58:45 GMT Message-Id: <39ju45$8n@chaos.dac.neu.edu> Hi, Is anyone out there hiring tech writers in the NE? adaniel@lynx.dac.neu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 11:20:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14084; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:20:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27612; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:10:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27606; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:10:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4vdq-00000BC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: compond srting search via ; Date: 8 Nov 1994 11:14:12 -0700 Message-Id: <39of5k$mlt@pegasus.unm.edu> pine 3.91 Hello Is there any way I can do compound string search ? I have a folder of a 1000 messages. I search (;ta) for string: lang 1) I search (;ta) for string: lang 2) Then I 'zoom' 3) Then at this point I would like to do further string search for other strings.... is it possible? Is ';' recursive? How far can I go extracting strings from Thanks, Farid From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 11:24:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14272; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:24:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27748; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27742; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4vhg-00000FC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to add HEADERS ? Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:43:05 -0800 Message-Id: References: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> Which entry did you add it to? Which version of Pine? Did you put a space between the "Reply-To:" and the "username@address"? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Nov 1994, L. E. de Rivaud wrote: > Date: 7 NOV 1994 23:02:24 -0800 > From: L. E. de Rivaud > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: How to add HEADERS ? > > I have tried to add a header that says, (w/o quotes), > "Reply-To:username@address" and I don't seem to be able to do it. I > tried by starting Pine and then choosing Config then Setup (or is it > Setup then Config?) Anyway... > > I got a message to the effect, "Headers not found. Using default header > information." or something like that. > > So then I tried editing the .pinerc file in my home dir and got the same > message. > > HELP! Please tell me what I am doing wrong. > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > L. E. de Rivaud > rivaud@rain.org > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 11:31:23 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14654; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:31:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24747; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24741; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:15:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4vgt-00000CC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 10:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Why does pine think mail reply will be posted to millions? Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:39:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The bug has been fixed in Pine 3.91... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Nov 1994, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > Date: 8 NOV 94 12:51:07 GMT > From: R. Stewart Ellis > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Why does pine think mail reply will be posted to millions? > > I am using pine 3.90 (yeah I know) on SunOS 4.1.3. Occasionally when > responding to a mail message with no Newsgroups header when I type ^X to > send it, pine tells me "Message may go out to millions of users....". If I > tell it no, go bak into the editor and try again, it does not give me the > message. Examination of the headers in Rich Header Mode shows a blank > Nwsgrps or similar spelling header. > > What is the heuristic that is tripping it up? Has this bug been fixed in > 3.91? > > > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ > Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ > Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / > Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 11:45:04 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15238; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:45:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25154; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:37:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25148; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:37:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4w2p-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew J. Woodward <74171.2626@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Pine and Unixware Date: 8 Nov 1994 07:52:43 GMT Message-Id: <39naob$g3r$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> I have been trying to get Pine to work properly on Novell's Unixware without much success. Unixware runs something called mailsurr instead of sendmail. If anyone has been successful getting Pine to run on Unixware, I would be grateful if you would share the secret of how it is done. Thanks -- Andrew J. Woodward From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 12:07:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16367; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:07:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25541; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:55:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25535; Tue, 8 Nov 94 11:55:28 -0800 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa26146; 8 Nov 94 14:55 EST Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA20573; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:55:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:55:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: compond srting search via ; In-Reply-To: <39of5k$mlt@pegasus.unm.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Nov 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > Is there any way I can do compound string search ? > > I have a folder of a 1000 messages. I search (;ta) for string: lang > 1) I search (;ta) for string: lang > 2) Then I 'zoom' > 3) Then at this point I would like to do further string search > for other strings.... is it possible? > > Is ';' recursive? How far can I go extracting strings from > You will note that once you have selected some messages, the prompt on the next select ";" command will change and offer you the choice to Unselect, Broaden or Narrow your selection. Narrow is basically an AND (it will exclude some selected messages) and Broaded is an OR ( it will include more messages in the selected group. ) -- Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) -- -- UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics -- -- Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 12:38:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17707; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:38:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29398; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:31:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29390; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:31:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4wuP-000008C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 12:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: russell@lithium.verity.com. (Russell Van Tassell) Subject: Re: .forward problem... Date: 8 Nov 1994 00:34:08 -0800 Message-Id: <39nd60$c08@lithium.verity.com> References: <39fsoh$c3u@mistral.toppoint.de> Kai Voigt wrote: > > [.forward question deleted] > >Just put the following two lines into your .forward at your A account: > >\A >B > >So a copy will be kept at your A account. The backslash is needed to >prevent infinite loops. More specifically... the backslash tells sendmail that it's a system mailbox, whereas without it, it tries to forward it a few dozen times before it gives up (thirty, if I recall correctly). Amazing how the "circular loop" logic is worked out with alias files whereas the .forward can still confuse (one word, makealiaes? *smile*) Russell -- -- russell@verity.com Verity, Inc. 1550 Plymouth Street http://www.verity.com/ Mountain View, CA 94043 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 13:40:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20673; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:40:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27686; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:31:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27680; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:31:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4xpR-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bycgjld@crl.com (Ronald L. Bolin) Subject: AUTO READ MAILBOX FEATURE?? Date: 8 Nov 1994 04:09:54 -0800 Message-Id: <39npqi$iev@crl.crl.com> Does Pine 3.89 and higher have an auto-read-mail-box feature so that you don't have to go in and out of pine to get you new mail messages? If so, how does one configure pine to do this? Elm does this, so I should think Pine can do it also ?? Please e-mail your response. Thank's in advance. Ron -- Ron Bolin Internet: bycgjld@crl.com * RLB Consulting UNIX/C/C++/System Admin * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 14:22:37 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22439; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:22:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01618; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:01:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01612; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:01:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4yIm-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Why does pine think mail reply will be posted to millions? Date: 8 Nov 94 12:51:07 GMT Message-Id: I am using pine 3.90 (yeah I know) on SunOS 4.1.3. Occasionally when responding to a mail message with no Newsgroups header when I type ^X to send it, pine tells me "Message may go out to millions of users....". If I tell it no, go bak into the editor and try again, it does not give me the message. Examination of the headers in Rich Header Mode shows a blank Nwsgrps or similar spelling header. What is the heuristic that is tripping it up? Has this bug been fixed in 3.91? -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 14:28:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22619; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:28:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28565; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:16:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28559; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:16:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4yYC-00000BC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 13:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Addressbook Nicknames Needed? Date: 8 Nov 1994 07:23:15 -0600 Message-Id: <9411081329.AA09773@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: On 5 Nov 1994 jlfitz@cais2.cais.com wrote: |> |> > Is it necessary to use the nickname fields when entering data in |> > the PINE address book? It gets real annoying trying to think of a |> > nickname for every litte entry... Personally I hate instead typing full e-mail addresses and could not live without nicknames since the times of Bitnet/IBM Rice Mail. Pine is much better than any other mailing s/w I've seen on Unix. I like using nicknames, and I like the fact Pine produces headers with both the e-mail address and the person true name. I personally do not have any doubt in thinking a nickname for any "every little entry", I usually use the person name, surname or e-mail username (but I'd never again have to remember the node and domain !). I even use nicknames for local users, so that Pine may include the user full name. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 14:59:10 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24115; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:59:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02866; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:52:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02860; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:52:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r4z5w-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 14:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Colette Monaghan Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 - News Questions. Date: 8 Nov 1994 13:54:49 GMT Message-Id: <39nvv9$pui@helios.herts.ac.uk> References: Pine 3.91 - News Questions. Is it possible to select a number of newsgroups and subscribe to them in one go? If you are a new user to News and don't already have a .newsrc file then it seems a rather tedious selection process, unless I'm missing a vital point. It seems that you select a newsgroup confirm that you want to subscribe, then have to choose subscribe again at which point you are back at the top of the list of all possible newsgroups. You then need to either page forward or search for a string until you get back to where you where. Then the whole procedure starts all over again. I know you can give a string to base your selection procedure on a particular group, but that's only useful if you know what you're looking for. Is it possible to use the relatively new aggregate command that is now available in Pine to select a number of newsgroups and subscribe in a oner? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 15:45:13 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26276; Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:45:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00437; Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:38:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00431; Tue, 8 Nov 94 15:38:26 -0800 Via: uk.ac.durham; Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:49:17 +0000 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by durham.ac.uk; Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:49:24 GMT Received: from altair (altair.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Tue, 8 Nov 94 20:49:02 GMT Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:49:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Dan Schlitt Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Message-ID in Pine Sun Binary In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1384 On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Dan Schlitt wrote: > A quick question which probably has a simple solution that I don't see. > I just upgraded from 3.05 to 3.91 and now the Message-ID does not contain > the complete FQDN but just the hostname. I have tried a few of the > options which I thought should have an effect but nothing seems to work. > Is there a way to get the fully qualified name without doing a compile? Your Subject says "Sun Binary". Is this a binary obtained from Washington or is it one that you have compiled yourself? Is it for Solaris 2.x or SunOS 4.1.x? If it's for Solaris 2.x, then I think this is caused by a what I think is a bug in Solaris 2.3. The file pine/reply.c has the generate_message_id function. It uses the value of ps->hostname. This value is set up by init_hostname in init.c. The function init_hostname calls getdomainnames to generate this value. The function getdomainnames is defined in pine/osdep/domnames. It uses gethostbyname. I believe that the Solaris 2.3 gethostbyname does not return a FQDN. Please tell me if I am wrong! -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 16:39:22 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28206; Tue, 8 Nov 94 16:39:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05305; Tue, 8 Nov 94 16:31:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05293; Tue, 8 Nov 94 16:31:30 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA09291; Tue, 8 Nov 94 19:30:52 EST Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 19:27:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: Message-ID in Pine Sun Binary To: Barry Cornelius Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It is the Sun OS binary from Washington. Ordinarily I would not be asking. I would just compile the source. However, somewhere on the path between here and Seattle there is a lot of packet loss so I have not been able to ftp the source. (It took 2 hours to get the binary :-( ) /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 17:12:11 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00319; Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:12:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05935; Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:02:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rgti.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05929; Tue, 8 Nov 94 17:02:26 -0800 Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:01:54 -0500 (EST) From: Ami! To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <941108200155.20a00624@RGTI.COM> Subject: Newbie question 'bout ^_ , alternate editor Hello all, I'm using PINE 3.91 on AIX, but with a VT (420) terminal. It appears to me that this keyboard cannot send a control-underscore. Has anyone else out there figured out a way around this. I've enabled the alternate editor implicitly for now, but I still like to use PINE's regular editor most of the time, and emacs occasionally. Thanks, Ami Setton, RGTI Systems/Software ami@rgti.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 22:38:43 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07743; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11018; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:32:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11012; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:32:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r56GG-000008C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richard@strauss.udel.edu (Richard E. Gordon) Subject: cmsg cancel <39o7t4$l3v@strauss.udel.edu> Control: cancel <39o7t4$l3v@strauss.udel.edu> Date: 8 Nov 1994 11:13:06 -0500 Message-Id: <39o82i$ljd@strauss.udel.edu> <39o7t4$l3v@strauss.udel.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Richard Gordon richard@strauss.udel.edu User Services, Smith Hall acs02244@udelvm.bitnet University of Delaware (302) 831-1717 Newark, DE 19716 USA (302) 831-4205 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 23:04:01 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08297; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:04:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07357; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:58:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07351; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:58:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r56g5-000008C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 22:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@fornax.unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: Re: compund string search Date: 8 Nov 1994 20:20:25 GMT Message-Id: <39omi9$s7i@lynx.unm.edu> My question was answered .... Thanks, Farid On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:55:23 -0500 (EST) > From: Steven D. Majewski > To: Farid Hamjavar > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: compond srting search via ; > > On 8 Nov 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > > Is there any way I can do compound string search ? > > > > I have a folder of a 1000 messages. I search (;ta) for string: lang > > 1) I search (;ta) for string: lang > > 2) Then I 'zoom' > > 3) Then at this point I would like to do further string search > > for other strings.... is it possible? > > > > Is ';' recursive? How far can I go extracting strings from > > > > You will note that once you have selected some messages, the prompt > on the next select ";" command will change and offer you the choice > to Unselect, Broaden or Narrow your selection. Narrow is basically > an AND (it will exclude some selected messages) and Broaded is an OR > ( it will include more messages in the selected group. ) > > -- Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) -- > -- UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics -- > -- Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 -- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Nov 8 23:48:38 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09216; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:48:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11970; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:42:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11964; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:42:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r57Q3-000006C; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Aucoin Subject: Copying addresses from text Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 15:39:24 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I copy an address that is part of the text (but not in the return address header) of one message and then insert this address into the "to:" header of a new message I wish to compose and send? ^K/^U does not work. ///Paul aucoin@evansville.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 00:18:52 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10005; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:18:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08334; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:14:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08328; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:14:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r57rU-00000LC; Tue, 8 Nov 94 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeremy@MCS.COM (Jeremy Smith) Subject: 132 Column ? Date: 8 Nov 1994 16:16:51 -0600 Message-Id: <39otcj$d92@Mars.mcs.com> I access the net through a terminal progam (Qmodem) via a provider. Is there a way to tell PINE to display 132 columns (Qmodem supports 132 column display and VT emulation) so that I can see full newsgroup descriptions along with senders name? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- jeremy@mcs.com CIS 71341,2774 AOL N9jlv - Elgin, Il. 708-888-0008 voice/FAX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 00:25:53 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10176; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:25:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12515; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:21:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12509; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:21:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5805-00000OC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: full-name substitution on To: header Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 14:21:46 Message-Id: Pine behaves differently on two of our systems. On an Ultrix system running pine 3.88, it automatically converts a naked address to a full alias and address. That is, if I type "black" on the To: line, it is automatically converted to "Matthew Black ". On an SGI IRIX 5.2 system running pine 3.90 and the same global pine configuration file .pinerc, it doesn't perform the automatic conversion of a naked address. Can anyone offer advice why these systems behave differently? --matt ============================================================================== matthew black, systems analyst | The opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | don't necessarily reflect those my employer. cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu ===============================(c) 1994 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 00:59:05 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11022; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:59:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08806; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:53:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08800; Wed, 9 Nov 94 00:53:08 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:49:45 -0800 Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 16:49:44 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Matthew Black Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: full-name substitution on To: header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Matthew Black wrote: > Pine behaves differently on two of our systems. > > On an Ultrix system running pine 3.88, it automatically converts > a naked address to a full alias and address. That is, if I type > "black" on the To: line, it is automatically converted to > "Matthew Black ". > > On an SGI IRIX 5.2 system running pine 3.90 and the same > global pine configuration file .pinerc, it doesn't perform the > automatic conversion of a naked address. > > Can anyone offer advice why these systems behave differently? The behave differently because much has changed between 3.88 and 3.90. In fact, the way the .pinerc defines and handles the situation that you describe has changed from 3.90 to 3.91. Suggest you upgrade all of your systems to 3.91 and then check out the options "Use-Only-Domain-Name" and "quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file". Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 03:37:56 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15028; Wed, 9 Nov 94 03:37:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10898; Wed, 9 Nov 94 03:32:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10892; Wed, 9 Nov 94 03:32:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Auw-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine email (fwd) Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 10:34:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Portia Shao wrote: > Date: Mon, 7 NOV 1994 18:20:15 GMT > From: Portia Shao > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Pine email (fwd) > > On Mon, 7 Nov 1994, Stephen F. Day UNM HSCCS wrote: > > > The following was sent to me by one of our staff. I am hoping someone > > out there has an answer to this. We are just beginning to use VMS Pine > > (from Innosoft) at our site. Since we are subscribed to your listserv, > > please, send this to us (service@innosoft.com) since you know you got Pine > from Innosoft, not to the good pine people at UW who are not responsible > for Pine on VMS. They may not mind, but I feel quilty everytime I see one > of these which should be addressed to me. > This particular question was pretty specific to the VMS port, but in general I don't mind seeing general VMS Pine questions on pine-info/comp.mail.pine. Where VMS Pine questions and bug reports should not be sent is to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, though we will forward them along... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 05:23:17 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18235; Wed, 9 Nov 94 05:23:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16619; Wed, 9 Nov 94 05:17:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16613; Wed, 9 Nov 94 05:17:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Ce3-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 05:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu (Rolling Stones) Subject: Re: How to add HEADERS ? Date: 9 Nov 1994 00:32:10 GMT Message-Id: <39p5aa$aag@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> <39omds$2hc@coyote.rain.org> Comes here Mr/Mz. L. E. de Rivaud with this query in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 8 Nov 1994 12:18:04 -0800: + USING PINE 3.90 and yes I put the added header just as I put it in my + last message, (below). If anyone has done this successfully I would like + to see your .pinerc file. + + : I have tried to add a header that says, (w/o quotes), + : "Reply-To:username@address" and I don't seem to be able to do it. I Here's the relevant extract of .pinerc Enjoy!! ============================================================================= # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.90, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # Your full name personal-name=The Shrim Dude! [stuff deleted] # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=Subject, Bcc, Cc, To # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Suggest: As always send e-mail to help@astro for further help., Reply-To: shrim@astro.ocis.temple.edu, Return-Receipt-To:, Disclaimer: Talk about me talking for others esp. My Employers! ============================================================================= The above works like *yumm* for me, thanks to The Pine Team for 3.90 But one _glitch_ with this is, when you invoke Rich Headers and then postpone the composition, upon resumption it cuts off my Suggest/Disclaimer header values. This I have been told has been fixed in 3.91 (haven't had a chance to get that to compile on MIPS-211AC) If you do have any problem with getting this to work, send me an e-mail. -- o o o o o o o . . . _~~~__~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ _~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\_ o _____ | /__ | | Compt. Svcs. | .][__n_n_|DD[ ====_____ | __/ riram NCV | | Temple Univ. | >(________|__|_[_________]_|______________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` ======================================================================== Talk about me doing the talking for others, esp. My Employers!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 07:32:20 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22057; Wed, 9 Nov 94 07:32:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14330; Wed, 9 Nov 94 07:17:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14324; Wed, 9 Nov 94 07:17:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5ELq-00000IC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 06:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruceb@efn.org (Bruce Berryhill) Subject: Re: Redirect incoming mail Message-Id: References: <39heth$84o@merlion.singnet.com.sg> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 01:17:11 GMT Can we have a FAQ? Pine has no clue about mail filtering. You have to find out what your local system offers. My system filters mail through elm and filter. Ask your sysadm. If you want to put your outgoing mail in a folder, set default-fcc. -bruceb In <39heth$84o@merlion.singnet.com.sg> sajari@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Sajari) writes: >I'm sorry if this question been ask before, how do we redirect an >incoming mail to a specific folder either from or to in pine. >-- >............................................................................. > ******************************** >sajari * eat to live, not live to eat * >with regard ******************************** >::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: -- -bruceb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 08:55:58 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26116; Wed, 9 Nov 94 08:55:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15761; Wed, 9 Nov 94 08:26:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15733; Wed, 9 Nov 94 08:25:17 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Nov 94 00:22:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 00:21:59 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Bruce Berryhill Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Redirect incoming mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Bruce Berryhill wrote: > Can we have a FAQ? Pine has no clue about mail filtering. You have to > find out what your local system offers. My system filters mail through > elm and filter. Ask your sysadm. Are you asking for a reprint??? :-) :-) PINE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS The following questions have been compiled from questions asked on the pine-info and pine-bugs mailing lists. General * What is Pine? * What is MIME? * What is IMAP? * How can I get a copy of Pine? * Is there a manual? * What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? * What are all these funny names in your examples? * How many sites use Pine? Errors and Problems * I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? * If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. * "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" * What is folder locking and how does it work? * What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox simultaneously? * Why did I get the message "locked, override in XXX sec"? * Why is a charset=US-ASCII attachment sent using BASE64 encoding? Usage * How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? * How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? * How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? * How do I read News with Pine? * Can I post news with Pine? * How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? * How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? * Can I define a Reply-To: header? * Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? * xbiff lets me know about new mail, but pine doesn't know about it. * How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? Installation and Configuration * Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? * Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? * What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? * Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? * Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? * How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? * How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Platform Specific * To what platforms has Pine been ported? * Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. * What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Conversions * How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? * How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? * How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? * How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Development Info * What are the current versions of Pine and related software? * What is new in this version of Pine? * When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? * What new features will the next release of Pine include? --========== Content-Description: General Questions About Pine Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: General Questions About Pine GENERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT PINE ------------ Content-Description: What is Pine? Subject: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of "power users" as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC-822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, NNTP) and runs on Unix and PCs. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. ------------ Content-Description: What is MIME? Subject: What is MIME? MIME (RFC 1521) stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is an Internet standard which allows transfer of binary files (word-processing documents, spreadsheets, images, sounds, etc) between any compliant mailers. You can get technical information about MIME from the RFC. Ongoing discussion on MIME takes place in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime. There is also a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list that is posted regularly to comp.mail.mime and comp.answers. ------------ Content-Description: What is IMAP? Subject: What is IMAP? IMAP stands for "Internet Message Access Protocol". An IMAP client program on any platform at any location on the Internet can access email folders on an IMAP server. While the messages appear to be local, they reside on the server until the client explicitly moves or deletes them. The IMAP protocol is a functional (but incompatible) superset of POP. A principal advantage of IMAP over POP is that it permits using more than one computer to access your mail. Using multiple computers with POP typically results in your mail ending up scattered across all of those computers. Another key advantage is IMAP's ability to selectively access parts of messages, e.g. you don't have to wait for a 2MB audio attachment to be retrieved until you specifically ask for it. This is a big win over low-speed (e.g. dialup) connections. For a detailed comparison of IMAP and POP, see the paper "Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP." IMAP is what allows Pine (or any other IMAP client) to access email on a remote mail server, usually one that is shared (central or departmental). There is an IETF working group currently defining the IMAP4 revision to the IMAP2 specification (RFC-1176). A copy of the latest IMAP draft may be obtained from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the file imap/latest-imap-draft ------------ Content-Description: How can I get a copy of Pine? Subject: How can I get a copy of Pine? Pine is available via anonymous ftp from the pine directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. See the Installation Instructions for Pine for more information. ------------ Content-Description: Is there a manual? Subject: Is there a manual? The Pine program itself includes extensive online help. Additional documentation may be found via anonymous FTP or via World-Wide-Web using the following URLs: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The Pine program itself also includes extensive online help. Other forms of access are planned for the future. ------------ Content-Description: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? Subject: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. _All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists._ To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. ------------ Content-Description: What are all these funny names in your examples? Subject: What are all these funny names in your examples? In an attempt to avoid confusion with real places or services we decided to make up a ficticious user for our examples. This person is John Smith, who is currently an art major at the University of Nowhere (nowhere.edu). He previously attended Elsewhere Community College (elsewhere.edu). His username is jsmith and he uses the following machines: rembrandt.art.nowhere.edu A Unix timesharing machine. picasso.art.nowhere.edu An SMTP server. news.nowhere.edu A Usenet News server which supports both NNTP and IMAP access. davinci.art.nowhere.edu A PC-compatible workstation running MS-DOS. warhol.art.nowhere.edu An IMAP server. fozzie.elsewhere.edu An IMAP server at Elsewhere Community College. ------------ Content-Description: How many sites use Pine? Subject: How many sites use Pine? We don't have a good way to count the number of sites running Pine, but at last count over 4,000 sites in 40 countries had downloaded the Pine 3.89 distribution from ftp.cac.washington.edu. There are also several major archive sites that mirror the distribution, so the actual numbers are probably much higher. -------------- --========== Content-Description: Errors and Problems Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Errors and Problems ERRORS AND PROBLEMS ------------ Content-Description: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? Subject: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? When a bug is identified in an old release, there is a very strong possibility that the associated code has been re-written to the point that a fix will not apply to the current release. Hence, if we can't reproduce the problem in the current version, our standard response will be to ask you to upgrade. ------------ Content-Description: If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. Subject: If I postpone a Reply, there is no 'A' in the index after I resume and send it. This is a known limitation of the current release of pine. When you postpone a composition, Pine does not have any way to keep track of which message was being replied to (or that it was a reply at all). This limitation will be removed in a future release of Pine. ------------ Content-Description: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" Subject: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" The message "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" means that Pine was reading your mail folder, and at the point in which it expected a start-of-message header line, it found something else. The ``format invalidated'' condition can happen in one of three ways: 1. bad data exists at the beginning of the folder. 2. data was appended to the folder after Pine initially read it, and the new data did not begin with a start-of-message-header. 3. the folder was modified without Pine being aware of it. All three problems are generally caused by software external to Pine. Condition (1) can be determined by whether or not the problem repeats itself after restarting Pine. If restarting Pine does not make the problem go away, then you need to look at the actual file for the folder and see what is wrong with the very first line. In particular, make sure that there are no blank lines at the beginning of the file and that the first character of the folder file is a capital ``F'' , the second an ``r'', the third an ``o'', etc. In the case of an INBOX, you may want to rename the folder so that new mail can be delivered while repairs on the corrupt folder are being done. Condition (2) may be caused by a mail delivery process (e.g. /bin/mail) which writes some characters other than ``From '' at the beginning of the new data. Condition (3) is caused by another program manipulating the mail folder without following the normal folder locking protocols. This is a general problem on UNIX. Conditions (2) and (3) have also been known to occur when accessing folders via NFS, if the information returned by the stat() and read() system calls do not correspond with each other as a result of NFS attribute caching. Restarting Pine on that folder always clears conditions (2) and (3). If the problem is chronic, it may be worth an investigation to determine its cause. Usually, it is due to the misbehavior of some external software. The reason why Pine gives up with conditions (2) and (3) is that it does not want to risk damaging user data by guessing what is right. Pine never writes to the folder unless it is absolutely sure it knows what it is doing. There are some steps which can be taken to reduce the risk of these conditions coming up. Some of these steps may require the assistance of your system adminstrator (or whomever it was that built and installed Pine on your system): 1. Use IMAP instead of NFS to access remote folders. Problems with locking over NFS are perhaps the single most important cause of user difficulties. Using IMAP eliminates this class of problem. 2. Consider enabling the mbox driver in Pine. If the mbox driver is enabled, mail is transferred from the /usr/spool/mail mail into a file called mbox in your home directory, if mbox exists. The home directory mbox file is then your INBOX. This has the advantage that Pine and the mail delivery system are less often in contention for the INBOX, and never both trying to update it. Pine only empties the /usr/spool/mail file, it never tries updating it. 3. Be careful not to run other programs that modify your folders while you are running Pine. Such programs may change the folder out from under Pine, and lead Pine to conclude that there is a problem with its view of the file. ------------ Content-Description: What is folder locking and how does it work? Subject: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: * The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. _NOTE: flock() on BSD systems does not work over NFS, so only the most basic .lock file locking -- locks (1) and (2) happen over NFS. On SVR4 systems, fcntl() locking attempts to work over NFS, but there are known problems in the rpc.lockd daemon which have caused hangs if an application beats on the mechanism too much (and Pine beats on it). All of the above mechanisms work reliably over IMAP connections._ _[MRC]_ ------------ Content-Description: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? Subject: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? This varies depending on what format your folders are stored in. With the default Berkeley format, the last session to open a folder will get full access to the folder and the previous session(s) will be changed to read-only access. When a folder is read-only, you will not see any further updates to that folder until it is reopened with full access. Currently the INBOX cannot be reopened without exiting and restarting Pine. With the Tenex format, any number of sessions can simultaneously have full access to a folder, with the exception that expunging is disabled. See "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" for more information. ------------ Content-Description: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? Subject: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? The message "locked, will override in _xxx_ seconds" occurs when Pine has discovered that some other mail program claims to be accessing your mail folder (i.e. _folder_.lock exists). This is a very low-level lock used by programs such as the system mailer in delivering mail, and by certain programs such as mail, elm, babyl, mm, etc. Supposedly, this lock is only to be acquired and held for a very short period of time (less than a second). It starts with 285 seconds, retries every second, and issues that message every 15 seconds. The total period of time, 5 minutes, is the time that it will keep on trying before it concludes that the lock is false -- that is, that whatever program locked the folder forgot to unlock it (perhaps it crashed) -- and Pine will go ahead and claim the lock for itself. This is not due to a conflict between two copies of Pine, since Pine interlocks against itself in a higher-level fashion. _NOTE: On some systems with 14 character filename limits, attempting to open a folder with a 14 character name (e.g. saved-messages) will trigger this sequence. Folder names should be limited to 9 characters or less on those systems._ ------------ Content-Description: Why is a charset=US-ASCII attachment sent using BASE64 encoding? Subject: Why is a charset=US-ASCII attachment sent using BASE64 encoding? Pine BASE64-encodes all attachments, including text, in order to assure that they are not modified in transit. The goal is make sure file attachment in Pine is as dependable as FTP (and BASE64 is safer than Quoted-Printable). A good example of why this is handy is when we recently asked some folks to attach their addressbooks to help us track down problems in 3.90, we didn't have to worry about whether a gateway had modified a tab or trailing blanks, etc, etc. -------------- --========== Content-Description: Usage Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Usage USAGE ------------ Content-Description: How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? Subject: How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? Put addresses and/or list from your address book in the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) header field. You will see all the names and addresses as you compose the message, but they are erased before arriving in other people's INBOXes. The Bcc: header is not displayed automatically in the default Pine configuration, so you may need to use the rich headers command (Ctrl-R) while the cursor is in the header to expose it. ------------ Content-Description: How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? Subject: How do I use Ispell with Pine (and Pico)? Here are a couple ways to use Ispell within Pine: 1. Set your alternate-editor to ispell, then ^_ in the composer invokes ispell. To do this set "editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell" in your .pinerc file. This may be set within Pine via the _OPTIONS_ task of the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. Now, when you press ^_ (Control-Underscore) in Pine, you will execute the ispell program in its native mode. Press ? for help. Press I to insert unknown words into the personal dictionary. You can still press Ctrl-T to use the standard pine spell-checking program (which will -not- use your personal dictionary). See 'man ispell' for more information on the ispell program. 2. Pine already checks the SPELL environment variable so you can create the following script and name it spell. #!/bin/sh ispell -l | sort | uniq To make Ctrl-T in pine use 'ispell' and your '$HOME/.ispell_words' dictionary: + make the above script file 'spell' in your home directory + make it executable: 'chmod u+x spell' + set the environment variable SPELL: 'setenv SPELL $HOME/spell' (you may include this command in your .profile, .cshrc or .login file) Now, when you press Ctrl-T in Pine, you will execute the ispell program, and it will recognize words stored in the private dictionary. The screen display will look like pine is using the standard spell-checking program. Unfortunately, this method does not allow the user to Insert words into the private dictionary. However, this might be useful with a central script file (setenv SPELL ...) and a central private dictionary (ispell -p ...) to provide a common private dictionary for an entire workgroup. The manager could add items to the private dictionary; ordinary pine users would use the private dictionary (Ctrl-T), but they could not change it. To use ispell with pico, implement the 'ispell' program via ^T (CTRL-T) (using the script file) in addition to implementing it via ^_ (CTRL-_) (using the .pinerc file). * Use Ctrl-_ in Pine (it won't work in Pico) for full-featured ispell. * Use Ctrl-T in Pico to use the ispell program and your .ispell_words dictionary (but without the full ispell functionality). You can use Ctrl-T/ispell in Pine also, but why bother when Ctrl-_ works better. _[Mike Ramey ]_ ------------ Content-Description: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Subject: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Using your favorite text editor (e.g. Pico), create a file in your home directory called .signature containing the text you want appended to each message. For more detailed information see The Signature and Finger Frequently Asked Questions list which is posted periodically to the comp.mail.pine and comp.mail.misc newsgroups. PC-Pine users should put their signatures in the file \PINE\PINE.SIG. ------------ Content-Description: How do I read News with Pine? Subject: How do I read News with Pine? Three ways to access news via Pine: 1. Local News. If news is stored on the same machine you run Pine on, you can specify: news-collections=News *[*] 2. Via NNTP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections=News *{news.nowhere.edu/nntp}[*] Alternatively, if the nntp-server variable is set, your news-collections will default to NNTP access from the same server. 3. Via IMAP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections=News *{news.nowhere.edu}[*] The advantage of option #3 is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. ------------ Content-Description: Can I post news with Pine? Subject: Can I post news with Pine? Versions of Pine prior to Pine 3.90 do not support posting. In Pine 3.90 and later you can enter a list of newsgroups on the newsgrps: header to post a message. ------------ Content-Description: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Subject: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Pine does not currently support this directly, but here is a work-around: 1. Move the cursor to the Cc: line. 2. Enter the nickname or press Ctrl-T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use Ctrl-K to delete that address from the Cc: line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press Ctrl-U to insert the address. This is kind of a round-about way to get the job done, but it works... ------------ Content-Description: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Subject: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail", or "filter" or "deliver". Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "filter" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? Pine's answer is to let you specify them in your .pinerc, as in the example: incoming-folders=Art151 {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-art151, Art-L {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}filter/to-Art-L, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to the Art151 class into the folder "filter/to-art151" and mail relating to the Art-L mailing list into "filter/to-Art-L". From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't "forget" that you have more than one place to look for new mail... ------------ Content-Description: Can I define a Reply-To: header? Subject: Can I define a Reply-To: header? Yes. This is a new feature of Pine 3.90. It is handled as a "custom header" and can be added into that field via Pine's new configuration screen. ------------ Content-Description: Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? Subject: Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? Not currently. ------------ Content-Description: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. Subject: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). ------------ Content-Description: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? Subject: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? When viewing the message, use the '|' (Pipe) command and give it the following: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' -------------- --========== Content-Description: Installation and Configuration Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Installation and Configuration INSTALLATION AND CONFIGURATION ------------ Content-Description: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Subject: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Not yet, but Kerberos support is planned for a future release of Pine. If you have access to Kerberos or AFS compatible IMAP clients already, the following information may be useful. The current version of imapd does not support AFS or Kerberos authentication. However, the routine which validates authentication is designed as a drop-in module, to allow you to replace with alternative authentication schemes such as AFS, Kerberos, S/Key, etc. This routine is server_login(). Depending upon which version of c-client you have, it is either in the os__xxx_.c (where _xxx_ is the name of your port) or it is in a file named log__yyy_.c which is included by the os_xxx.c file. The log__yyy_.c is usually log_std.c (std for "standard UNIX"), but it may be log_sv4.c (SVR4) or a couple of other variants. This file only contains that one routine, so it should be a simple matter to modify that file and rebuild imapd. ------------ Content-Description: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. ------------ Content-Description: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Subject: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Using the Tenex format for INBOXes allows multiple sessions (or mulitple users, subject to the usual access controls) to have *almost* full Read-Write access to the INBOX. The only limitation on full RW access is that if there are multiple sessions at a given moment, no one can do an Expunge. However, message state changes (e.g. marking a msg as deleted) *can* be done, and this state is preserved across sessions. If an explicit Expunge cmd fails, it will say so and tell you that the mailbox is in use by another process. When there is only one session left using that mailbox, expunge will resume working again. In contrast: the normal Berkeley style folders can have only one RW client at a time, so _given the current software_ the latest session steals the RW lock away from any previous session, with the earlier session becoming RO. ------------ Content-Description: Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? Subject: Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? In Pine 3.90, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. In brief, Unix Pine uses three configuration files: a system-wide file /usr/local/lib/pine.conf, a system-wide non-overridable file /usr/local/lib/pine.fixed, and a personal configuration file ~/.pinerc. There are certain options which are only found in system wide configurations, others only found in personal configurations, and still others found in both. For settings found in both pine.conf and .pinerc, values in .pinerc take precedence over those in pine.conf, and settings in pine.conf.fixed take precedence over everything. If you need to generate a "blank" copy of the system wide configuration files, run "pine -conf > /usr/local/lib ". Pine automatically generates a .pinerc when a user starts Pine for the first time. Starting with Pine 3.90, almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. ------------ Content-Description: Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? Subject: Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? In Pine 3.90, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. In brief, PC-Pine uses the following rules for finding config and support files: 1. The location of the PINERC is searched for in the following order of precedence: 1. File pointed to by PINERC environment variable 2. $HOME\PINE\PINERC 3. A file named PINERC in the same directory as PINE.EXE 2. The HOME environment variable, if not set, defaults to root of the current working drive. 3. The default for external files (PINE.SIG and ADDRBOOK) is the same directory as the PINERC file. 4. The support files (PINE.HLP and PINE.NDX) are searched for in the same directory as PINE.EXE. Starting with Pine 3.90, almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the _SETUP_ command from the main menu. ------------ Content-Description: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Subject: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Pine does not support some older terminals (e.g. tvi925, WYSE-60) very well. Some problems can be overcome with a proper termcap entry, but others, such as handling cursor keys, do not have a good solution. ------------ Content-Description: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Subject: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? You have several options: 1. Leave inbox in /usr/spool/mail, but turn on the Pine option to prompt users to move read messages to a folder in their home directory upon exiting Pine. 2. Modify your mail delivery program to deliver mail directly into the user's home directory, and specify that inbox-path in your global pine.conf (See the "tmail" program on ftp.cac.washington.edu for an example.) 3. "touch mail.txt" in each home directory, which will cause Pine (upon startup) to pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mail.txt -- however, mail.txt will be a Tenex-format, rather than Berkeley mail format folder (faster, but non-standard). 4. Link in the "mbox" driver when you build Pine. This driver will (upon Pine startup) pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mbox, which will be a Bky-format folder. -------------- --========== Content-Description: Conversions Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Conversions CONVERSIONS ------------ Content-Description: How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? Subject: How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decipher an attachment? Regarding attachments: Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for this. MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) uses "Base64" encoding rather than uuencode, because uuencode uses characters that are transformed by some email gateways, and there are also several incompatible versions of uuencode. However, you can certainly uuencode a file outside of pine, then use the Composer's Ctrl-R (file inclusion) command to insert the encoded file in the message. If you use Pine's attachment feature, your recipient does need to have MIME-capable software. Fortunately, this is not hard to find. Even the major proprietary mail vendors have committed to MIME support, but some of their upgraded products are still some months away. One product which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in the /pub/mpack directory. ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Subject: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? A perl script (and conversion to C of same) that converts OpenWindows mail to MIME. Body parts currently supported are: text, gif, Sun rasterfile (converted to image/gif), postscript, and audio. Other types default to application/octet-stream. It's easy to extend the set of types supported and to add conversions, if necessary. The script requires uuencode, uudecode, zcat (aka uncompress), and the "convert" program from ImageMagick. If you don't have ImageMagick you can probably substitute the pbm stuff with little fuss. The program is available via ftp from cs.utk.edu in pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.perl or pub/MIME/sun-to-mime.c _[Keith Moore ]_ ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? Subject: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? The Pine source distribution includes a shell script to do this in the contrib/utils directory. It is called brk2pine.sh. ------------ Content-Description: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Subject: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Here's a little script one of our UNIX folks worked up to handle conversion of elm aliases to pine alias form (pretty simple syntax substitution). If you execute it multiple times it will keep adding another set of your elm aliases to your pine addressbook. #!/bin/csh #!/bin/csh -vx # convert elm aliases.text to pine addressbook # Greg Gustafson # UMD Information Services # January 1993 # if -r $HOME/.elm/aliases.text then if -e $HOME/.addressbook then set n=1 while (-e $HOME/.addressbook$n) @ n++ end mv $HOME/.addressbook $HOME/.addressbook$n endif ex - $HOME/.elm/aliases.text _[Joel Ness ]_ -------------- --========== Content-Description: Development Info Content-Type: MULTIPART/DIGEST; BOUNDARY="----------" Subject: Development Info DEVELOPMENT INFO ------------ Content-Description: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? Subject: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? The current version of Pine is 3.90. The current version of Pico is 2.4. ------------ Content-Description: What is new in this version of Pine? Subject: What is new in this version of Pine? These are the changes and improvements since Pine 3.89: * Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: + Bounce (Remail) + Flag (Set message status) + Pipe (Pipe msg to external cmd; Unix only) + Select,Apply,Zoom (Aggregate operations) + Setup/Config (Pinerc configuration screen) * News posting * News subscription/unsubscription * Multiple address books * Postpone multiple messages * Customizable headers for Composer * Mailcap support * Improved support for multiple incoming message folders * enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature (except for editing headers) * All .pinerc features now settable from command line * Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) * Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete * Way to use current-working-directory for Export, Read File, etc. * A _preliminary_ version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock (but not OS/2) ------------ Content-Description: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? Subject: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? We don't know right now, we just released this version. Besides, our track-record on meeting projected release schedules is terrible, so you shouldn't believe any dates we are foolish enough to suggest anyway. ------------ Content-Description: What new features will the future releases of Pine include? Subject: What new features will the future releases of Pine include? * Additional MIME support, esp. controlling file TYPING * PEM and/or PGP support * External directory services access * Kerberos support * RFC 1522 header encoding for 8bit character sets * Location independence of support files * Offline support * Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) * Answered flag not set if Reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) * Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) * Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) * Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) -------------- --==========-- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 12:00:55 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05520; Wed, 9 Nov 94 12:00:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25385; Wed, 9 Nov 94 11:49:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25379; Wed, 9 Nov 94 11:49:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Il8-00000WC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 11:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mick@oahu.cern.ch (Mickey Coggins) Subject: IMAP questions Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 08:24:59 GMT I believe I've read all there is in the distribution on imap, and I still have some questions. - Is there some more documentation? - Is it possible to set up a unix server such that PC clients can use POP to read the mail with the pop->imap programs? - Are there any advantages/disadvantages of doing this over a regular POP3? - Are there any other PC clients that support IMAP besides PINE (as he ducks)? I like the look of IMAP, but I need to support whatever the client has on the PC. Thanks, -- Mickey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 12:24:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA06960; Wed, 9 Nov 94 12:24:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21727; Wed, 9 Nov 94 12:17:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21721; Wed, 9 Nov 94 12:17:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5J5y-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 11:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Roch Subject: Relative impact of imap/pc clients vs telnet/pine sessions Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 10:28:45 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Take a multiuser machine, say a Sun 4/370. If it can support N pc users who telnet in and run a continuous pine session, it can presumably support M x N pc users were they all to adopt an IMAP based PC mua. Any guesses on the value of M? (We get N up to 40 or so on the model suggested). Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 16:25:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19577; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:25:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27509; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:17:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27491; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:17:24 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Nov 94 08:14:00 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 08:13:59 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Mickey Coggins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Mickey Coggins wrote: > I believe I've read all there is in the distribution > on imap, and I still have some questions. > > - Is there some more documentation? Yes, get the RFC. (I don't recall the number....but I guess that is why the rfc index is helpful). > - Is it possible to set up a unix server such that PC > clients can use POP to read the mail with the pop->imap programs? > - Are there any advantages/disadvantages of doing this over a regular POP3? > - Are there any other PC clients that support IMAP besides PINE (as he ducks)? I know ECSMail, a commercial product, relies on IMAP. > I like the look of IMAP, but I need to support whatever the client has on > the PC. What's the big deal? There is no law that say you can't support both IMAP an POP. My systems support POP2, POP3, and IMAP. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 16:25:24 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19602; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:25:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02133; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:18:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02127; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:18:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Mxj-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 16:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: The memory requirements of PC-Pine Message-Id: <1994Nov9.155948.17457@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 94 15:59:48 GMT How much conventional DOS memory does PC-Pine need to run reliably? I've been having problems trying it out on a 386 with about 530K free and I'd really like to be able to give it to users who have even less. Is this a lost cause or am I doing something wrong? Has anyone got any tips on reducing the memory requirements? Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 17:37:44 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23880; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:37:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29577; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:32:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29571; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:32:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5O4r-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joshua Hosseinoff Subject: AIX 3.2 Pine 3.91 Problems partly solved Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 14:45:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Since Pine 3.85 I have had trouble running PINE with curses linked in on various terminal types we have here. Specifically Pine would somehow manage to change the baud rate of the tty or just lock up the terminal entirely as soon as the user went into Compose (but not the mail Index). Basically the way to fix it is to comment out "#define POSIX_SIGNALS" in os.h It doesn't seem to have any adverse reactions and curses now works, instead of having to use termcap. I have noticed another problem concerning interrupted messages which at least two users have encountered but I have not been able to duplicate. The users somehow have a file in their home directory called .pine-interrupted-mail containing 0 bytes, and a second file called .pine-interrupted-mail.lock also containing 0 bytes. When they try to continue these interrupted messages they get kicked out of Pine with the message Pine Bug detected or something similar to that. When I try it by creating those files in my home dir with 0 bytes, i don't get pine bug detected but it does tell me that it can't delete that folder. I don't know how they managed to get .pine-interrupted-mail with 0 bytes but it does happen I guess. Josh Hosseinoff hosseino@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 17:54:06 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24547; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:54:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04382; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:48:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04370; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:48:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5OMg-00000CC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 17:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: markstep@engin.umich.edu (Mark A. Stephan) Subject: Re: problem printing Date: 7 Nov 1994 20:03:09 GMT Message-Id: <39m15t$332@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: Anyone know how to fix this on a Macintosh, though? (printer not printing for v3.91) -mark -- Mark Stephan The University of Michigan markstep@engin.umich.edu computer engineering @chgdss10.chgd.med.umich.edu The U of M Solar Car Team From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 18:28:18 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25301; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:28:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00614; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:24:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00608; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:23:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Ov2-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeff@scrdp.stanford.edu (Jeff Petry) Subject: Can't Reply or Forward Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:19:38 GMT Hi There, I have a problem with Pine 3.91 in that I can't forward or reply to a message. When I try to do either I get an error message that says 'Can't Reply to message. Error accessing folder'. I normally use Mailstrom for mail (a Macintosh IMAP program), and have Pine configured for IMAP, and have no problem getting into my mail. I've double checked all of the permissions on every possible folder (/usr/spool/mail/jeff, ~jeff/mail, /tmp, etc.). I have even tried running the debugger at 9, but it never told me what folder it was having problems opening, it just says 'Error accessing folder...' Any assistance to this problem would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Petry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 18:28:49 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25330; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:28:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04934; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:24:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04928; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:24:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Ow2-00000CC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ross.Keele@Usask.CA Subject: Re: PCPINE for windows - Cant send mails Date: Wed, 09 Nov 94 12:35:22 CST Message-Id: <39r4p4$aau@tribune.usask.ca> References: <39kr9e$pjs@piaget.moe.ac.sg> On 7 Nov 1994 09:16:30 GMT, Francis Ho says... > >I've got PCPINE for windows. I am able to receive mails. However, I am >unable to send mails. Could anyone please help? If you have the TZ environment variable set, try getting rid of it and see what happens. This was the problem with v3.90, but it was solved in v3.91. -- A. Ross Keele Ross.Keele@Usask.CA University of Saskatchewan http://www.usask.ca/~keele/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 18:44:35 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25764; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:44:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00805; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:39:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00799; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:39:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5PAp-00000HC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jansen@surfnet.nl (Xander Jansen) Subject: Re: Message-ID in Pine Sun Binary Message-Id: <1994Nov9.181622.4534@cc.ruu.nl> References: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 18:16:22 GMT Barry Cornelius (Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk) wrote: : On Tue, 8 Nov 1994, Dan Schlitt wrote: : > A quick question which probably has a simple solution that I don't see. : > I just upgraded from 3.05 to 3.91 and now the Message-ID does not contain : > the complete FQDN but just the hostname. I have tried a few of the : > options which I thought should have an effect but nothing seems to work. : > Is there a way to get the fully qualified name without doing a compile? : Your Subject says "Sun Binary". Is this a binary obtained from Washington : or is it one that you have compiled yourself? Is it for Solaris 2.x or : SunOS 4.1.x? If it's for Solaris 2.x, then I think this is caused by a : what I think is a bug in Solaris 2.3. : The file pine/reply.c has the generate_message_id function. It uses the : value of ps->hostname. This value is set up by init_hostname in init.c. : The function init_hostname calls getdomainnames to generate this value. : The function getdomainnames is defined in pine/osdep/domnames. It uses : gethostbyname. I believe that the Solaris 2.3 gethostbyname does not : return a FQDN. Please tell me if I am wrong! You're right (although I think it is 'does not always', depending on the /etc/hosts file ?). From the Solaris Porting FAQ (you'll find it in your nearest news.answers repository, directory Solaris2, file porting-FAQ): * gethostbyname() always returns null in h->aliases. * Now, gethostbyX can be replaced its __switch_gethostbyX * equivalents. However, these are missing from Solaris 2.3. And then a replacement routine (by Casper Dik) to "plug it in every program that requires gethostbyname to work" (only header shown here): /* * Proper gethostbyXX function for Solaris 2.0-2.3 * (and later ?) * * Fixed in 2.4? * * You'll need -ldl added to the link command line. * * Casper Dik (casper@fwi.uva.nl) * */ I've heard rumours that this indeed is fixed in 2.4 (but I'm not sure). Anyway, I once put the replacement routine somewhere in the Pine code and my message-ID's suddenly got FQDN's in it. Don't ask me where I put it, I'm not a C-programmer and probably picked the 'wrong' place ;-) Xander From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 18:53:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26004; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:53:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05297; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:49:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05291; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:49:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5PKO-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 18:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: compond srting search via ; Date: Tue, 8 Nov 1994 20:09:58 +0000 Message-Id: References: <39of5k$mlt@pegasus.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39of5k$mlt@pegasus.unm.edu> On 8 Nov 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: Use ; again, followed by "N"arrow Selection. ---------------- Is there any way I can do compound string search ? I have a folder of a 1000 messages. I search (;ta) for string: lang 1) I search (;ta) for string: lang 2) Then I 'zoom' 3) Then at this point I would like to do further string search for other strings.... is it possible? Is ';' recursive? How far can I go extracting strings from From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 20:23:15 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28450; Wed, 9 Nov 94 20:23:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02344; Wed, 9 Nov 94 20:19:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02338; Wed, 9 Nov 94 20:19:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5QfZ-000006C; Wed, 9 Nov 94 19:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: galvin@srvr1.engin.umich.edu (michael vanderploeg) Subject: Does anybody actually use Procmail? Date: 9 Nov 1994 16:54:39 GMT Message-Id: <39qusf$1l4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Does anybody have success with procmail? I compiled it, but have no idea how to run my incoming mail thru it. It shows examples for mh and such, but it doesn't say anything about pine. Thanks! Mike p.s. A .forward file and .procmailrc file would be great! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 21:07:30 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29270; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:07:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07292; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:03:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07286; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:03:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5RJm-00000FC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 20:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: OrderedSubj / .pinerc Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 20:14:53 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Firstly, a question: What does sorting by OrderedSubj do? I can't work that one out. Secondly, a recommendation (well, just sommat I've noticed, really): How about if .pinerc actually reflected compile-time options you set. e.g., from my .pinerc: # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule= Only it isn't. Default is "". Because I set it that way when I compiled Pine. So I just thought maybe .pinerc should say: Default: "" --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 21:11:02 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29365; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:11:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03011; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:06:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03005; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:06:26 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Nov 94 13:02:58 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:02:58 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: michael vanderploeg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Does anybody actually use Procmail? In-Reply-To: <39qusf$1l4@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Nov 1994, michael vanderploeg wrote: > Does anybody have success with procmail? I compiled it, but have no idea > how to run my incoming mail thru it. It shows examples for mh and such, > but it doesn't say anything about pine. It is used here every time mail arrives.... > p.s. A .forward file and .procmailrc file would be great! I'll send these to you under seperate cover....don't want to bore the list with my overly simplistic .procmailrc.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 22:03:12 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00639; Wed, 9 Nov 94 22:03:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03710; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:59:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03704; Wed, 9 Nov 94 21:59:35 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 10 Nov 94 13:56:08 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 13:56:07 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Brad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: OrderedSubj / .pinerc In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Brad wrote: > What does sorting by OrderedSubj do? I can't work that one out. >From that strange thing called the Help Menu Sorting by "ordered subject" does a grouping intended to simulate a "threaded" sort, and then presents each "thread" in order of the date of the first message in the group. Reverse simply reverses whatever the current sort order is. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 23:31:25 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02221; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:31:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09036; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:18:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09030; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:18:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5TTT-00000CC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 22:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: francis@moe.ac.sg (Francis Ho) Subject: PCPINE for windows - Cant send mails Date: 7 Nov 1994 09:16:30 GMT Message-Id: <39kr9e$pjs@piaget.moe.ac.sg> I've got PCPINE for windows. I am able to receive mails. However, I am unable to send mails. Could anyone please help? Thanks in advance. -- Francis Ho Internet: francis@moe.ac.sg Education Data Centre, MOE Tel : (65) - 4713949 " Doing without thinking, is as good as thinking without doing " From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Nov 9 23:44:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02502; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA05003; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:39:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04997; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:39:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5TqA-00000CC; Wed, 9 Nov 94 23:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rv@cslab9a.cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) Subject: Mailing list Digests Message-Id: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 06:46:13 GMT How can i burst mailing list digests with Pine? -- rodrigo vanegas rv@cs.brown.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 01:13:28 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04570; Thu, 10 Nov 94 01:13:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10330; Thu, 10 Nov 94 01:04:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ictpsp4.ictp.trieste.it by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10315; Thu, 10 Nov 94 01:04:09 -0800 Received: by ictpsp4.ictp.trieste.it id AA09967 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:59:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:59:16 +0100 (MET) From: "M.Bordin, ICTP/IAEA, Unix Sys & Net Adm" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: IMAP x NFS in Unix Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, First of all, I would like to thank people who are/were involved in the PINE development. It's great! We have about 30 Unix workstations, we are using BSD-Sendmail on our "mailhost" machine (the machine which were our incoming mail arrives) and mounting "/var/spool/mail" on the clients via NFS. We experimented several problem in the past, probably associated to NFS and Elm (inbox corrupted, an so on). I had no problem with NFS and PINE, but it was not a *real* life experiment (only a few users were using it). Now, we are re-installing our mail services, and I was wondering if we couldn't use IMAP access from UNIX "clients", other than from PCs. (sorry for the long description of the problem) My questions are: 1) To get IMAP access on Unix, I should configure in my ".pinerc" something like: inbox-path={mailhost}/var/spool/mail/my_user_name Is that all and right? (it seems to work) 2) With the above configuration, PINE asks for "username" and "password" to open the INBOX. That check couldn't be avoided for the Unix users? Actually they have already logged on... 3) What are the (dis)advantages of using IMAP instead of NFS? Do you recommend it? Many thanks in advance, Marcos ============================================ Marcos F. Bordin, Unix Systems & Network Adm ICTP/Scientific Computing Section marcos@ictp.trieste.it From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 04:40:13 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09471; Thu, 10 Nov 94 04:40:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13150; Thu, 10 Nov 94 04:35:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13144; Thu, 10 Nov 94 04:35:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5YQm-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 04:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@fornax.unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: pine and history mechanism Date: 9 Nov 1994 22:07:32 GMT Message-Id: <39rh74$lc9@lynx.unm.edu> Hello, Is it too early to give suggestion for next version of PINE? It sure would be nice if there was a history mechanism so I could re-visit folders I have already been in a more user-friendly fashion ... Thanks, Farid From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 06:01:21 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11489; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:01:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09881; Thu, 10 Nov 94 05:55:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09875; Thu, 10 Nov 94 05:55:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Zjn-00000eC; Thu, 10 Nov 94 05:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@coyote.rain.org (L. E. de Rivaud) Subject: Re: How to add HEADERS ? Date: 9 Nov 1994 16:41:25 -0800 Message-Id: <39rq7l$mce@coyote.rain.org> References: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) allegedly wrote: : Which entry did you add it to? Which version of Pine? Did you put a space : between the "Reply-To:" and the "username@address"? Yes, I did put a space after the colon. I have gotten about a dozen e-mails telling me to do this. I did it when I originally tried to add the header. Also, I tried it without the username@site part. No luck. Can someone send me a .pinerc that works for them with added headers? -- L. E. de Rivaud rivaud@rain.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 06:17:11 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11798; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:17:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14542; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:10:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14536; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:10:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5Zwg-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 05:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike O'Connor Message-Id: <941110013654.AA23745@dojo> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 01:36:54 GMT Subject: Re: HELP: bugs in pine3.91 under solaris 5.3 References: <39k1ua$80o@bosnia.pop.psu.edu> In article <39k1ua$80o@bosnia.pop.psu.edu>, David Barr wrote: :I'd just put a warning message if you type 'build sol' that warns :that you can't use /usr/ucb/cc. In fact you could even hack the :build script to return an error if [ `which cc` = "/usr/ucb/cc" ].). "which" of course is a csh-ism, which may or not make sense for your shell of choice. ...Mike -- Michael J. O'Connor Internet: mjo@dojo.mi.org (email address) InterNIC WHOIS: MJO http://www.msen.com/~mjo/ (WWW home page) "History is made at night!" -from _Buckaroo Banzai_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 06:40:08 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12333; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:40:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10387; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:32:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10381; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:32:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5aHp-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 06:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rivaud@coyote.rain.org (L. E. de Rivaud) Subject: Re: How to add HEADERS ? Date: 8 Nov 1994 12:18:04 -0800 Message-Id: <39omds$2hc@coyote.rain.org> References: <39n7q0$oj8@coyote.rain.org> USING PINE 3.90 and yes I put the added header just as I put it in my last message, (below). If anyone has done this successfully I would like to see your .pinerc file. Any help would be great, but a .pinerc with the proper syntax or whatever would be great too. L. E. de Rivaud (rivaud@coyote.rain.org) allegedly wrote: : I have tried to add a header that says, (w/o quotes), : "Reply-To:username@address" and I don't seem to be able to do it. I : tried by starting Pine and then choosing Config then Setup (or is it : Setup then Config?) Anyway... : I got a message to the effect, "Headers not found. Using default header : information." or something like that. : So then I tried editing the .pinerc file in my home dir and got the same : message. : HELP! Please tell me what I am doing wrong. : L. E. de Rivaud : rivaud@rain.org -- L. E. de Rivaud rivaud@rain.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 09:31:26 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19003; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:31:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18164; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:26:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18158; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:26:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5czl-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan LeGate Subject: Pine: re-sending and newsgroup speed. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 1994 12:08:12 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A couple of pine questions: Is there a way to "re-send" a message that is in your "sent-mail" folder WITHOUT using "forward"? Forwarding it adds a header, etc. to the message. If I just want to RE-SEND it in its original format (so the receiver) doesn't know it's the second time around, is that possible? I realize you can edit out those "forward" lines, but I would think there would be an easier way in pine. Is there? I also notice that when I post to newsgroups, it seems to take a LONG time when I'm entering newsgroup names in the "Newsgrps:" header. Is there a way to speed this up? I noticed a few newsgroups options in the Config, but wasn't sure which, if any, would speed this up. Is there something? Thanks for any help or information you can provide. Dan LeGate dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu Prodigy ID: FCSJ69A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 09:46:47 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19794; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:46:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14441; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:41:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigcat.missouri.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14435; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:41:53 -0800 Received: by bigcat.missouri.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29812; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:41:49 CST Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 11:41:49 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin D. Brand" Subject: help with pine on ultrix-32 v3.1b To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will pine mail work on a system with Ultrix-32 v3.1b? What port will work best for Ultrix-32 v3.1b? thank you Kevin D. Brand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 10:08:23 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20743; Thu, 10 Nov 94 10:08:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15007; Thu, 10 Nov 94 10:02:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15001; Thu, 10 Nov 94 10:02:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5dVG-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 09:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: @kant.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Klaus Wacker) Subject: Conversion of elm aliases to pine addressbook Date: 9 Nov 1994 13:34:40 GMT Message-Id: <39qj5g$gfj@nx2.hrz.uni-dortmund.de> Does anybody have a filter which converts elm's aliases.text to pine addressbook format? I guess it is pretty straight forward to do, but it would save me some work if its been done already. Is it right that there can be only one nickname per addressbook entry? Elm allows several. Finally, is there a FAQ for comp.mail.pine? -- | / | | | | | wacker@Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE | / | _ __ | | | _ _ | _ _ Klaus Wacker, Exp.Physik V |/\ | _\ | | (_ | | | _\ / |_) /_) | Uni Dortmund | \_|_(_|_|_|___) |_|_|_(_|_\__| \_/\___| D-44221 Dortmund +49 (231) 755 3587 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 11:49:46 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25552; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:49:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21617; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:41:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21611; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:41:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5f73-000008C; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Pine: re-sending and newsgroup speed. Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:42:35 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Wed, 9 Nov 1994, Dan LeGate wrote: > > A couple of pine questions: > > Is there a way to "re-send" a message that is in your "sent-mail" folder > WITHOUT using "forward"? Forwarding it adds a header, etc. to the > message. If I just want to RE-SEND it in its original format (so the > receiver) doesn't know it's the second time around, is that possible? I > realize you can edit out those "forward" lines, but I would think there > would be an easier way in pine. Is there? Yes. Just save to the postponed-msgs folder, and go Compose, and it appears as a continued postponed compose. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 11:57:50 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26015; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:57:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17806; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:47:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17800; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:47:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0r5fBZ-00000CC; Thu, 10 Nov 94 11:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: bcc: broken? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 09:45:56 +0000 Message-Id: References: <39s1cm$arj@snark.wizard.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <39s1cm$arj@snark.wizard.com> On 9 Nov 1994, Daniel Jacobs 702.871.4461 wrote: > Is this a definition of bcc: I was previously unaware of or am I missing > something? I sent something to a dozen people, and to avoid cluttering up > their screens, I bcc:ed everyone except one of them. However, every > single one of them got the full distribution list with the bcc: header. I > am using MMDF as my mail server, if that helps. > We have had this too on some of our systems. The answer is that it all depends what MTA you use. Pine uses the sendmail -t option to tell (actually ask!) the MTA to strip the Bcc field. The MTA may or may not do this (as it is not strictly its business to do anything to the inside of a message). A discussion in comp.mail.headers suggests that the only proper specification is for the MUA (PINE in this instance) to strip out the Bcc field itself. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Nov 10 12:08:29 1994 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26532; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:08:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18114; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:00:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18108; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:00:49 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22471; Thu, 10 Nov 94 12:00:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 07:55:39 -0500 (EST) From: Ying-Yuang Chen