From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 09:13:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21167; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:13:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27732; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:06:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27724; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:06:48 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:04:25 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:04:24 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Minor nit pick... Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good Evening, I'm at the other end of a 64KB link to my NNTP server. When I go to read a newsgroup I get the notification saying some thing like "comp.unix.solaris open with 44 messages" then a few seconds later I get the message "sorting comp.unix.solaris - 48% complete". Well, that last message stays on the screen until I issue a key stroke. We sometimes have problems with our leased line...so when this first happened I thought it was just the line acting up and waited for it to clear up....three hours later (sic) I hit the down arrow....... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 10:02:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23427; Thu, 1 Sep 94 10:02:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28893; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:55:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28881; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:55:19 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24251; Thu, 1 Sep 94 09:55:18 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13366; Thu, 1 Sep 94 04:59:23 -0700 Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23578; Thu, 1 Sep 94 04:59:20 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06164-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:40:14 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu id AA25122; Thu, 1 Sep 94 08:50:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 08:50:26 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Eric Guilyardi Cc: pine-info-approval@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: install on SGI 5.2 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 09:55:15 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Whilst trying to trace a display problem yesterday I successfully compiled Pine 3.90 "out of the box" on IRIX 4.0.5, IRIX 5.1.1.2 and IRIX 5.2. What problem are you seeing? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Eric Guilyardi wrote: > > Hi, > > I wonder if pine was ever installed on the new SGI Indy 5.2 system ? > > I have problem compiling ... > > Thanks > > Eric > > Eric Guilyardi | (ericg@cerfacs.fr) > CERFACS - Global Change Team | (+33) 61.19.30.76 > 31057 Toulouse Cedex - FRANCE | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 13:02:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01868; Thu, 1 Sep 94 13:02:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03013; Thu, 1 Sep 94 12:52:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03001; Thu, 1 Sep 94 12:52:11 -0700 Received: from news.issaquah.wednet.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29721; Thu, 1 Sep 94 12:52:10 -0700 Received: by ISS-CSS. admin.issaquah.wednet.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07325; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:53:10 +0800 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 22:15:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Laurence Yeung Subject: pine.conf? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: Lonnie Yeung Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Content-Length: 218 Ok, call me stupid, but I grabbed a pre-compiled Unix pine binary from ftp.cac.washington.edu and now I want to setup a pine.conf, so how do I get a copy of one to configure and put into my /usr/local/lib? --Lonnie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 14:08:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04788; Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:08:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04663; Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:02:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04657; Thu, 1 Sep 94 14:02:41 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA11241; Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:58:51 EDT Return-Path: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:58:51 -0400 From: James Dryfoos To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Tab file expansion does not appear to work? Message-Id: <9409011658.AA10399@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Am using Pine 3.90 under SunOS 4.1.3 and cannot get the tab filename completion to work while entering filenames in the attach header field or in the ^r read file prompt. I can do it from my shell. I have enabled this in the config and restart Pine :-) FEATURE: enable-tab-completion This feature enables the TAB key when at a prompt for a filename. In this case, TAB will cause the partial name already entered to be automatically completed, provided the partial name is unambiguous. -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 15:16:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08207; Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:16:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04312; Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:10:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04304; Thu, 1 Sep 94 15:10:25 -0700 Received: from general2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HGLP3MSE0W8X3JYK@asu.edu>; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:13:20 MST Received: from general2 (localhost) by general2.asu.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18295; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:10:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 01 Sep 1994 15:10:14 -0700 (MST) From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: No body suspension In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 1087 On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Do you have "enable-suspend" turned on or off in your .pinerc/pine.conf file? We have "enable-suspend" in pine.conf. I also tried adding this to my .pinerc, but no joy. Interestingly enough, ^Z works in the our (Kerberized) AIX version of Pine.... Thanks for replying! -- > On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > > > I can suspend Pine 3.89 (Solaris version) while composing a message if I > > press ^Z in the header section. However, I get "Unknown Command: ^Z" > > if I do so in the "Message Text" area. > > > > Any hints? > > > > Incidentally, a hearty thanks to The Pine Team for Pine 3.89! It may not > > be as good as Pine 3.90, but hey!... = ) We've put tons of people here > > on it. Thanks again and again.... > > > > -- > > > > "Treat every man according to his desert, and who shall scape a > > whipping? Treat them after your own honor and dignity. The less they > > deserve, the more merit is in your bounty." > > > > -- From _Hamlet_ > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 16:16:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10637; Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:16:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05629; Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05623; Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:10:54 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07797; Thu, 1 Sep 94 16:10:42 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Steve Patlan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sendmail failure not noticed by Pine 3.90 In-Reply-To: <33u2hr$7bt@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We'll add a check to make sure that the configured sendmail exists and is executable. We don't want to wait for the completion status of sendmail since that can take a long time and many sendmails don't return a useful exit status anyway. You should, however, get a bounce message mailed back to you (once we are sure we're talking to a sendmail). Thanks for the suggestions! Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 29 Aug 1994, Steve Patlan wrote: > I just tested a newly-compiled version of Pine 3.90 on my (BSDI BSD/386) > system. My "sendmail" is in /usr/sbin, but Pine is hardcoded to look in > /usr/lib. A quick edit and rebuild will cure that problem, but I noticed > that Pine did not pick up on the failure to send mail. The error message > "/usr/lib/sendmail not found" would blap across the main menu, followed by > the Pine message "Mail Sent". The debug file also indicated successful > transmission when in fact nothing of the sort had occurred. > > > So, should Pine notice that this didn't work? Isn't there a DOS-like > completion code it can check? (But I guess a program that didn't run > can't very well set that code, now can it?) > > Steve Patlan > -- > texmex@starbase.neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 17:29:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14325; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:29:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07259; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:24:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07249; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:24:25 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:21:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 08:21:54 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Laurence Yeung Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine.conf? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Laurence Yeung wrote: > Ok, call me stupid, but I grabbed a pre-compiled Unix pine binary from > ftp.cac.washington.edu and now I want to setup a pine.conf, so how do I > get a copy of one to configure and put into my /usr/local/lib? > --Lonnie > Type pine -h and get this question...and maybe others...answered. The magic incantation "pine -conf" Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 17:54:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15115; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09601; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:45:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09589; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgMQb-00000QC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wwar@lostlink.alt.za (Warwick Ward-Cox) Subject: Re: Disable the debug feature? Message-Id: <1994Sep1.161544.18977@lostlink.alt.za> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:15:44 GMT References: <1994Aug31.075634.12801@lostlink.alt.za> Ed Greshko (egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: : > I have installed pine 3.90 onto my system now and I want to stop it from : > creating these debug files .pine-debug?, is there a switch to turn it off : > or how do I go about it? : Well, yes there is...and had you spent a little time reading the : help screens you may have found it.... :-) Oops sorry.... dont bite my head off its small enough all ready... : Try typing "pine -h" and notice all the switches that are : available. Guess what "pine -d 0" does.... What I have done in the end is make an alias that runs pine -d 0 when I type in pine... Thanks, Warwick -- --- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 17:55:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15162; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:55:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07656; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:45:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07650; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:45:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgMQO-00000PC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 17:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wwar@lostlink.alt.za (Warwick Ward-Cox) Subject: Re: Newsgroups - How to post articles to local server? Message-Id: <1994Sep1.161358.18903@lostlink.alt.za> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 16:13:58 GMT References: <1994Aug31.071251.12583@lostlink.alt.za> Ed Greshko (egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: : > I am running pine 3.90, but can't seem to post messages to my newsgroups, : > it keeps coming up saying "no server defined for newsgroups" even if I : > put in my domain name in the nntp-server option it doesn't work. : You need to put the name of a "host" that is acting as an : NNTP server. Not your domain name. Problem is I have a UUCP link with my host, so Pine returns and says cant make link with NNTP server or something like that.. What I need it to do is update my /var/spool/news directly as though the server was local? Thanks, Warwick -- --- --------------------------------------------------------------- | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 18:54:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16482; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08480; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08474; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:46:30 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:44:03 -0800 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:44:02 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Warwick Ward-Cox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Disable the debug feature? In-Reply-To: <1994Sep1.161544.18977@lostlink.alt.za> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > What I have done in the end is make an alias that runs pine -d 0 when I > type in pine... The other alternative, that I forgot to mention, is to recompile with the -DDEBUG flag turned off. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 19:03:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16693; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:03:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08594; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:56:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08588; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:56:06 -0700 Received: from news.issaquah.wednet.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07080; Thu, 1 Sep 94 18:56:05 -0700 Received: by ISS-CSS. admin.issaquah.wednet.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07558; Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:57:04 +0800 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:57:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Lonnie Yeung X-Sender: yeungl@ISS-CSS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine.conf= solved Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 306 In case anybody else wanted to know how to redirect the output from 'pine -conf' into a file, i figured it out. 'pine -conf' only shows you a file, but the command 'cat | pine -conf >pine.conf' seemed to work for me. I am sure i went the long way around the problem, but hey, it works. --The idiot From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 19:31:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17264; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:31:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11007; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:26:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11001; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:26:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgO1S-00000QC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Ross Subject: "New mailbox modification time..." in Pine3.90 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:14:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Using Pine3.90 on a DG/UX system we get occasional "New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes" messages. We did not see this message using Pine3.87. Can anyone suggest possible reasons for this message? Eric Ross, Colorado College eross@cc.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 19:31:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17295; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:31:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09026; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:26:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09020; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:26:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgO4p-00000YC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcarter@access.digex.net (Todd W. Carter) Subject: Sorting by mail addressed to me Date: 1 Sep 1994 07:29:21 -0400 Message-Id: <344duh$rih@access2.digex.net> Is it possible to sort my mail so that all the mail to me, designated by "+," is grouped together, at the top of the list? Thanks, Todd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 21:09:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19336; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:09:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12458; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:03:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12452; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:03:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgPXX-000008C; Thu, 1 Sep 94 20:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: /u/mrc/.mail/postponed-msgs Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 19:50:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Sep 1994 smckown@ctea.com wrote: > The problem is that many types of operations between PC-Pine and imapd will > take 75-80 seconds. Some of these operations include: loggin in, opening a > folder, etc. It doesn't always happen. My guess is that the problem is due to the logging that was added in imapd. If the DNS is unhappy, this logging could slow things down. Try rebuilding imapd, but with the syslog calls removed. Actually, it may suffice just to disable the tcp_clienthost() function in tcp_unix.c by removing its code and putting in a return "???"; statement. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 21:09:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19374; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:09:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10469; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:07:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10463; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:07:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgPdL-00000PC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Suggestion for PINE (fwd) Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:32:55 GMT If the folder doesn't have too many pieces of mail, the user could alway ^R and then ~/mail/foldername. Of course it will end up with many other things not wanted, but using ^^ and then ^W [from:] will be ease to eraese all unwanted mail... convoluted, but it works... (I use this a couple of times...) Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 21:22:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19636; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12685; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:18:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12679; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:18:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgPkE-00000VC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 20:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oxenreid@chaos.cs.umn.edu (Christopher G. Oxenreider) Subject: Spell prgram in pine. Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:24:55 GMT I might be wrong on this, but isn't there a way to get pine to use a speller program other than the UNIX spell program? I would like to use ispell-3.1.08. What am i missing in the configuration? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 21:36:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19874; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:36:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10805; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:33:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10799; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:33:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgQ1L-000008C; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Persuading Pine 3.90 to read environment variables Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:44:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You should be able to use the $REPLYTO variable in .pinerc or pine.conf for Unix Pine and PINERC for PC-Pine, e.g. customized-hdrs=Reply-To: $REPLYTO |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, A.Sharaz wrote: > hi all, > > i've just been trying out the latest Version of Pine and although, as you > can see, I've managed to set up a reply-to field for myself, I don't > really want to do it for everyone that uses mail. > > At hull university, all outgoing mail passes through a mail hub that > translates > > userid@host.dept.hull.ac.uk > > into > > Initial1.initial2.surname@dept.hull.ac.uk > > as far as the outside world is concerned, they see the "departmental" > e-mail addresses instead of the actual host specific ones. > > When dealing with USENET as we primarily use UNIX boxes to provide the > clients, we've modified various scripts to use the contents of the > REPLYTO environment variable when posting news. The REPLYTO variable is > set by a prog that obtains a persons e-mail address from our X.500 database. > > Ideally I'd like to be able to do the same thing for PINE. > > If a person is posting to a news group I need to have the reply-to field > set up with a persons "departmental" address rather than the "host > specific" one. > > Anyone know if there's a possible way of doing this without delving into > the source code? > > > Ideally I'd like to do it for the PC-DOS version as well. > > alex > > > RFC-822: A.Sharaz@computer-centre.hull.ac.uk > X.400: I=A;S=Sharaz;OU=Computer-Centre;O=Hull;PRMD=UK.AC;c=GB > X.500: c=GB@o=University of Hull@ou=computer Centre@cn=Alexander Sharaz > Tel: +44 482-465700 Fax: +44 482-466441 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 22:06:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20389; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:06:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13257; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:03:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13251; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:03:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgQSL-000008C; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sliz@gene4d.med.utoronto.ca (Bryan Eger) Subject: field in mailing to the List Message-Id: <1994Sep2.032755.15649@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 03:27:55 GMT I would like to send a mail to a group of people. This can be easily done by creating a list of recipients in the address book. The only problem is, that when the mail is sent, every recipient receives the letter with the list of all other recipients in the field of the message. When the list is getting larger, this is really annoying. I am using Pine 3.9 on SGI. Is there any way to avoid this problem? Thanks for any suggestions, Peter Sliz -- __.--/) .-~~ ~~>>>>>>>> .-. University of Toronto (._\~ \ ( ~~>>>>>>>>.~.-' Department of Biochemistry -~} \_~-, )~~>>>>>>>' / E-mail: sliz@gene4d.med.utoronto.ca { ~/ /~~~~~~. _.-~ ~.( `--~~/ /~ ~. .--~~~~_\ \--~( -.-~~-. \ ```-'~~ / / ~-. \ .--~ / (((_.' (((__.' ```-' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 22:10:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20498; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:10:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11187; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:07:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11181; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:07:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgQa2-00000jC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 21:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullen@gate.net (Allen Mullen) Subject: Re: =20 at end of lines Date: 2 Sep 1994 03:13:20 GMT Message-Id: <34658g$sms@tequesta.gate.net> References: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Something in your message is triggering Quoted-Printable encoding. What : version of Pine are you running? 3.87 Both the uploaded file incorporated into the message and the stuff I type have the =20 at the end of every line except paragraph breaks. I don't see it myself, only the people receiving my Email see it. Everything looks fine to me when I send the Email. Allen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 22:37:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21069; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:37:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11525; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:33:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11516; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:33:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgQxG-00000PC; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: =20 at end of lines Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:19:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Something in your message is triggering Quoted-Printable encoding. What version of Pine are you running? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Allen Mullen wrote: > I send Email to a mail list. Usually I compose a text file on my PC > and save it as text only with line breaks. I upload it and then > incorporate it into an Email with the ^R command. I learned that I have > to clean the file with the /u1/mirage/bin/dos2unix command to > get rid of ^M at the end of lines. I do this now and the Email looks fine > as I send it but the people who receive it have =20 at the end of every > line except the line that ends a paragraph. This makes a real mess of my > Emails. I sometimes break up my Emails with a string of ==== and these > get messed up too. How can I fix this problem? > Thanks, > Allen > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 1 22:37:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21092; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:37:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13697; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:33:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13691; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:33:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgQwf-000008C; Thu, 1 Sep 94 22:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to alter header with ! pine 3.07 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <343cqt$47mf@lamar.ColoState.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <343cqt$47mf@lamar.ColoState.EDU> Actually, configurable headers were added in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Vince Cawley wrote: > I want to add lines to my header. And I have to admit I'm not a genius here. > We apparently have pine 3.07 [wha wha wha wha (sound effect suggesting losing > on a game show.)] Is there an easier way than suspending composition then > editing the temporarily saved file? > > It seems if we had 3.89 there would be a screen where I could do that. > I'm so sad. > > Vincent Cawley > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:07:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24353; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:07:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13380; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13374; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:57:29 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26041-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 08:46:50 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA02000; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:57:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 08:57:01 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Bryan Eger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: field in mailing to the List In-Reply-To: <1994Sep2.032755.15649@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You need to put your list in the "Bcc" field (Blind Carbon Copy) rather than the "To" field. The idea of the Bcc field is to let you send messages to people and have the other recipient names omitted from each recipient's message (ie, the recipient only sees his/her own name). You can get to the Bcc field by starting to compose a message, putting the cursor in the headers, and typing ^R (Rich Header). If you use it a lot you could also add Bcc to the list of headers you are shown by default. This is done in the Setup -> Configuration screen. (The variable you want is default-composer-hdrs ... check the built-in help for more details about this by placing your cursor on its entry in the configuration screen and requesting help). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Bryan Eger wrote: > I would like to send a mail to a group of people. This can be easily done > by creating a list of recipients in the address book. The only problem is, > that when the mail is sent, every recipient receives the letter with the list > of all other recipients in the field of the message. When the list > is getting larger, this is really annoying. > > I am using Pine 3.9 on SGI. Is there any way to avoid this problem? > > Thanks for any suggestions, > > Peter Sliz > > -- > > __.--/) .-~~ ~~>>>>>>>> .-. University of Toronto > (._\~ \ ( ~~>>>>>>>>.~.-' Department of Biochemistry > -~} \_~-, )~~>>>>>>>' / E-mail: sliz@gene4d.med.utoronto.ca > { ~/ /~~~~~~. _.-~ > ~.( `--~~/ /~ ~. > .--~~~~_\ \--~( -.-~~-. \ > ```-'~~ / / ~-. \ .--~ / > (((_.' (((__.' ```-' > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:27:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24788; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:27:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16154; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16148; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:17:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgTQc-00000rC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: ^Q - everywhere! Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:33:11 -0800 Message-Id: References: <343e40$dfj@riscsm.scripps.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > Is the terminal emulator set up to do XON/XOFF flow control, with the > serial port set for EIA (RTS/CTS) flow control? The ^Q is the XON > character that is used by the terminal emulator to tell the computer it's > OK to send data. I've seen cases where your terminal is set for XON/XOFF > and the modem is set for RTS/CTS (usually &K3 or &R in the config > profile, or in cases where you are directly connected -ixon is set) > causing both ^S and ^Q to show up. > > Try turning off flow control, or setting it to "HARDWARE", "RTS", > "RTC/CTS", "EIA", (or whatever else your communications package calls > hardware flow control) and see if that clears up your problem. The modem program was set to do XON/XOFF. I turned it off, but the problem persisted. It only happened when looking at something which scrolled off the bottom of the screen, such as when looking at the list of articles available in this news group. In addition I also got an error message that ^S was not a command. I don't recall that I got that before, but I certainly may have. Thanks for your help. Ian Ollmann For reference: On 1 Sep 1994, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: I recently compiled 3.90 for an sgi and found that when accessing the program from a remote terminal (a mac through a modem to our sgi) pine kept complaining the ^Q was not a command... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:27:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24811; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:27:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13763; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13757; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgTVI-00000wC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine version 3.90 is great! Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine should not have a problem with a pre-existing mail directory. Could you send details of your configuration, the errors you get, and what you have tried to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Debbie Teale wrote: > I would also like to say pine 3.90 is great! As a site supporter for > elmer (our locally improved elm) I am further tipped to teaching > pine for new users on campus. This brings with it problems of > those trying or changing over. > > Without any .pinerc (the first time user but elm user), pine dies because the > mail directory already exists. However if a .pinerc is copied in > prior to invoking pine a mail directory is not created for those > who haven't used anything before and of course then no mail can > be sent because mail/sent can't be created. > > Have I missed something in the installation? > > I am sure other sites have the problem of mail vs Mail directory. > Any comments on how to handle this? > > > > > -- > Debbie Teale, UCS, MS736, 220-4467 > E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:33:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25157; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:33:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13755; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13749; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgTRP-00000sC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mail Folders and sub-directories Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hierarchical folder collection support is one of the big-ticket items on our to-do list for the next 6 months or so. We are also looking into the possibility of some sort of compressed folder driver... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, George L. Westlund wrote: > Just got the precompiled pine 3.90 and tried it and liked it. Just one > drawback that I'm still waiting for, to be able to have folder > collections exist as a directory structure (I get a lot of mail and > usually keep current quarters mail in ~/mail, but older mail goes in > ~/mail/old_mail/year/quarter" where year is the four digit year and > quarter is q1-q4. It would be nice if a subdirectory could be crossed as > part of a folder collection. > > I sure that I could add these subdirectories as additiional folder > collections, but since they are in the same heirachey, it seem sthat they > should just follow through to be intuitive. > > Another request would be the ability to recognize compressed or gzipped > mail folders and extract from them as well. I'd be happy for this is a > read only mode. > > Other than those two, the new version is great and will boost its > acceptance on our campus. Just too bad it was posted to the ftp server > one working day after our final introduction to UNIX when to the publisher! > > George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu > Academic Computing Services || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET > Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 > San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:33:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25180; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:33:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16162; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16156; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:18:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgTUU-00000tC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <3432q7$5u3@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3432q7$5u3@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Use pine -f "*{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 Aug 1994, Jason Pascual wrote: > Is there a way to automatically enter reading newsgroups from pine? What > I'm basically asking is if there is a way to invoke pine with command line > options that will open up a newsgroup. > > Tried: pine -f "*{newsserver.put.here/nntp}[comp.mail.pine]" > > It looks like pine is going to open up the group however it comes back with > a 411 No Such Group error message. Any ideas. > > Jason Pascual > setspike@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 01:33:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25211; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:33:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16250; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:25:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16244; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:25:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgTdQ-000010C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 01:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smckown@ctea.com Subject: Pine/IMAPd problems on HP-UX Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:27:32 GMT I am having a problem with IMAPd on my HP9000/S800 server running HP-UX v9. I retrieved and compiled the Pine-3.90 source from ...washington.edu. Pine works great, I really like it (first time user). I then pulled down PC-Pine and set up my PINERC (and .pinerc) files so that all my folders were stored on the HP server (so they were listed as remote from PC-Pine). The problem is that many types of operations between PC-Pine and imapd will take 75-80 seconds. Some of these operations include: loggin in, opening a folder, etc. It doesn't always happen. I thought it may be a problem with PC-Pine interacting with my Winsock stack. So, to test, I modified my .pinerc on the server where imapd runs, to 'fake it out' and make it run through imapd rather than locally. I did this my setting the inbox to {hp-server.ctea.com}INBOX, the smtp-host, etc. When I set up pine in this manner, it behaves exactly like PC-Pine (although the unix-hosted pine UA doesn't beep and give the ...waiting... messages). In all cases, the operations do work, they just take 75-80 seconds. This leads me to believe it's an imapd problem. Has anyone seen this problem before? Is there any HP9000S800 users out there that could send me an imapd executable that does not exhibit this problem? Thanks to all for their time and efforts. Steve McKown smckown@ctea.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 03:51:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28205; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:51:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15358; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:38:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15351; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:38:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgVdr-00000ZC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incompatibility with 3.89 Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 12:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Both Pine 3.89 and 3.90 support the "-p" command line option to specify an alternate .pinerc file.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Ran Ever-Hadani wrote: > The pine patch for hebrew e-mail (known also as pineh) is still in > 3.89, and hence I find myself using two versions of pine: 3.90 for > non-Hebrew, and (a patch of) 3.89 for composing Hebrew messages. > This means that I see the annoying "This is a new pine version" message > a whole lot (is there a way to disable it?). A worse problem is that > the new format of .pinerc is not downward compatible with 3.89: when > the lines > > default-composer-hdrs=Subject, > Attchmnt, > Fcc, > Cc, > To > > appear in .pinerc, 3.89 complains on startup, and then it deletes > all accept the first from the file. I tried to edit .pinerc manually > to place the entire assignment in the single line > > > default-composer-hdrs=Subject, Attchmnt, Fcc, Cc, To > > Which seemed to work at first: 3.89 did not touch it, and 3.90 > recognized it. Unfortunately 3.90 also rearranged it to the > original five seperate lines. > > -- Ran > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 03:59:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28290; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:59:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15488; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15482; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgVsH-00000bC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for MiNT! ATARI MiNT???? Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I believe the MiNT port is for the preliminary work that was done on a Mac port of Pine. Certainly it is c-client only, no MiNT work has been done on Pico or Pine that I know of... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 28 Aug 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: > Is this what I read what I think it is? A default "build" for MiNT to ATARI? > > Well I must say that MiNT really starts showing up with the BIG boys, > UNIX, Solaris and so on.... > > > mnt: # Mint > $(MAKE) mtest OS=$@ EXTRADRIVERS="$(EXTRADRIVERS)" \ > STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ > CFLAGS="-O -I. -I/mac/h -I/mac/h-tcp $(EXTRACFLAGS)" \ > CC=gcc ARRC="gcc-ar rc" RANLIB=true \ > LDFLAGS="-L/mac/lib /mac/lib-tcp/dnr.o -llibmac -llibmac > > > This is to good to be true! > > A happy MiNT user: Robert > > > > -- > d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX > tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm > University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 03:59:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28295; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:59:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18018; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18012; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgVrD-00000YC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Connecting to NNTP Server Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 13:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Try using "*{server/nntp:port}[*]" in the news-collections specification... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on > the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in > the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). > Thank You > > Joshua Hosseinoff > hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 04:08:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29141; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:08:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15699; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:03:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15693; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:03:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgW3V-00000ZC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: miles@eskimo.com (Miles Bader) Subject: Bug in pine 3.90: requires no "mail" Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:58:12 GMT Pine 3.90 won't start up if you have a non-directory file called "mail" in your home directory, even if you have your folder-collections set to something else (in my case, .mail/[]). If you remove this file, and it starts up, it won't mistakenly create a directory or anything. I guess the check for this should be moved to the point that it knows what name to use... -Miles -- -- Miles Bader / miles@eskimo.com / (206) 842-7219 `Life is a boundless sea of bitterness' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 04:17:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29326; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:17:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18229; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:03:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18223; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:03:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgW2s-00000VC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 03:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problems with pico & HPUX & big xterms Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 11:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This sounds like a problem that used to happen in earlier releases, but it does not happen for me any more on our HP/UX 9.05 system... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Kenny Wickstrom wrote: > Like everyone else, I think that Pine 3.90 is wonderful. I use it on > SunOS 4.1.3, HPUX 8.0 and soon on Linux. > > Everything seems to work fine on both the Sun and HP. However, on the HP > if I have an xterm with 40 rows and 80 columns and try to Compose a > message, pico only opens a window 24x80. The help lines appear on lines > 23 and 24. If I cancel, the cancel line it about on line 22 (I think). > This is not a problem on the Sun. > > When viewing message, the window size is recognized without a problem, > using the entire with to display the current message. The index, > configure, and address book screens also use the entire window. > > I am using the same source (..tar.gz) for both. The compiler on both is > the default when you specify 'build sun' or 'build hpp'. > > If you have an suggestions, please let me know. > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |/ | | > |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) > ======== > // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. > // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 > // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 > // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) > Telecommunications Division // > _// > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 04:52:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00159; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:52:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18947; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:44:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18941; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:44:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgWhG-00000VC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 04:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine/IMAPd problems on HP-UX Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 22:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There is a possibility you are experiencing an rsh timeout. Try setting your inbox to {hp-server.ctea.com:143}INBOX which will avoid trying to use rsh pre-authentication. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994 smckown@ctea.com wrote: > > I am having a problem with IMAPd on my HP9000/S800 server running HP-UX v9. I > retrieved and compiled the Pine-3.90 source from ...washington.edu. Pine works > great, I really like it (first time user). I then pulled down PC-Pine and set > up my PINERC (and .pinerc) files so that all my folders were stored on the HP > server (so they were listed as remote from PC-Pine). > > The problem is that many types of operations between PC-Pine and imapd will > take 75-80 seconds. Some of these operations include: loggin in, opening a > folder, etc. It doesn't always happen. > > I thought it may be a problem with PC-Pine interacting with my Winsock stack. > So, to test, I modified my .pinerc on the server where imapd runs, to 'fake it > out' and make it run through imapd rather than locally. I did this my setting > the inbox to {hp-server.ctea.com}INBOX, the smtp-host, etc. > > When I set up pine in this manner, it behaves exactly like PC-Pine (although > the unix-hosted pine UA doesn't beep and give the ...waiting... messages). > > In all cases, the operations do work, they just take 75-80 seconds. > > This leads me to believe it's an imapd problem. Has anyone seen this problem > before? Is there any HP9000S800 users out there that could send me an imapd > executable that does not exhibit this problem? > > Thanks to all for their time and efforts. > > Steve McKown > smckown@ctea.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 05:46:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01267; Fri, 2 Sep 94 05:46:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17012; Fri, 2 Sep 94 05:32:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17006; Fri, 2 Sep 94 05:32:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgXSw-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 05:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dcarriga@nofc.forestry.ca (Dave Carrigan) Subject: Pine 3.90 and VMS -- No VMSBUILD.COM in [.PINE] directory Date: 1 Sep 1994 14:14:39 -0600 Message-Id: <345cnf$gvt@dragon.nofc.forestry.ca> Hi all I just downloaded Pine 3.90 and tried to build it on VMS. I had no problems in the [.PICO] and [.C-CLIENT] directories, but in the [.PINE] directory, there is no VMSBUILD.COM file. Has anybody tried to build Pine on VMS, and if so, could you pass along your .COM file to me? Thanks much, -- ^ dcarrigan@nofc.forestry.ca /|\ Canadian Forest Service, NW Region Dave Carrigan /|\ Northern Forestry Centre | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 06:34:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02155; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:34:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20155; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:29:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20149; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:29:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgYMf-00000bC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Spell prgram in pine. Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There are a couple ways to use Ispell with Pine. Check the FAQ posted earlier this week for details... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Christopher G. Oxenreider wrote: > I might be wrong on this, but isn't there a way to get pine to > use a speller program other than the UNIX spell program? I would like > to use ispell-3.1.08. What am i missing in the configuration? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 06:37:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02220; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17793; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17787; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:33:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgYTi-00000cC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 06:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 distribution kit: sample mailcap & imapdrc Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:36:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The sample mailcap file was indeed left out of the distribution. The /etc/imapdrc and ~/.imapdrc files are not needed except in very exceptional configurations. At this time we would prefer to discuss your need to use them individually rather than publish the specification. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Two quick queries: > > * The technical notes in the Pine 3.90 kit refer to a sample mailcap file > bundled into the kit. I've unpacked the full kit and roamed around the > directory tree but can't seem to spot it. Can anyone tell me where it is > and what it is called please? > > * The technical notes also refer to system wide and personal imapd > initialisation files: /etc/imapdrc and ~/.imapdrc. I can't find > anything else about these, and no evidence in the imapd source code > (imapd.c) that they are actually used. Are these just a figment of > the future? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk > The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 > University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 > Heslington > York YO1 5DD U.K. > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 07:49:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03692; Fri, 2 Sep 94 07:49:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21174; Fri, 2 Sep 94 07:39:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21168; Fri, 2 Sep 94 07:39:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgZSK-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 07:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Address book in Pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 18:09:11 GMT References: >From: David L Miller >There are several places that the bogus address might have been generated, >including the mailing list manager and whatever mail transports the message >passed through. The bottom line is that if Pine sees an address that is not >complete, it has to guess how to complete it. In some cases this will be >correct, in others it will not. Since most of the people will use a nick or alias for the email address of a mailing list (such like fvwm=fvwm@shrug.org), would it be a feature that Pine can look up the addressbook before completing the address. >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA -- Ming-Yen, Database Lab. ---------- giving you the best that I got -- Computer Science & Information Eng. voice: ........ 886-3-4227151x4504 National Central University, Taiwan fax: ........ 886-3-4227151x4508 -- MIME and BIG5 accepted ---------- email: .. myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 09:00:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06501; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:00:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20275; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:53:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20269; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:53:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgae0-00000MC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Has any one set up Pine with MMDF mailboxes Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:41:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <342drf$dir@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> <344k2f$o9a@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <344k2f$o9a@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> The primary ftp site for Pine is ftp.cac.washington.edu. Look in the /pine directory. Pine 3.90 has been available less than a week, so it may not have propagated to all mirrors yet. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Sep 1994, Robert Bannocks wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : Are you using the latest Pine 3.90? The MMDF driver is enabled by default > : there... > No! I am using 3.89 which i got form the mirror archive at src.doc.ic.ac.uk > > where can i get 3.90 from ? > > thank you for replying > > : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > : On 31 Aug 1994, Robert Bannocks wrote: > > : > has any one set up Pine with mmdf style mailboxes the code seems to be included > : > but I am damed if i can find out how to switch it on > : > > : > any clues > : > -- > : > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > : > Robert Bannocks Email: R.Bannocks@kingston.ac.uk > : > Systems Programmer, Kingston University, Penrhyn Road, Kingston-upon-Thames. > : > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > : > > : > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Robert Bannocks Email: R.Bannocks@kingston.ac.uk > Systems Programmer, Kingston University, Penrhyn Road, Kingston-upon-Thames. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 09:08:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07143; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:08:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22824; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:00:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22818; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:00:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgajO-00000lC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Connecting to NNTP Server Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:46:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The spec for .pinerc is: *{:/nntp}[] e.g. *{news.foo.bar:123/nntp}[] -- Mark -- On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > > Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on > the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in > the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). > Thank You > > Joshua Hosseinoff > hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 09:23:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07737; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:23:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20971; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:19:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20962; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:18:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgaw5-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 08:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 distribution kit: sample mailcap & imapdrc Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 15:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Mike Brudenell wrote: > * The technical notes also refer to system wide and personal imapd > initialisation files: /etc/imapdrc and ~/.imapdrc. I can't find > anything else about these, and no evidence in the imapd source code > (imapd.c) that they are actually used. Are these just a figment of > the future? These exist, but are intentionally undocumented; they shouldn't be used by non-UW sites and shouldn't be referenced in the tech notes. I suspect that their functionality is useless for 99.9% of all Pine sites. They exist to support certain experimental facilities at UW and are not for non-UW use (at least not yet). These capabilities are *extremely* dangerous and are used only by certain dedicated IMAP server machines. These files and the commands in them are subject to change without notice. Meaning you can depend upon some capability and then upgrade and find that all your mail has disappeared. If you're really curious, I have a document which says what goes in these files, but you've been fairly warned... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 09:24:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07781; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20920; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:16:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20911; Fri, 2 Sep 94 09:16:10 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 3 Sep 94 00:13:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 00:13:41 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Ming-Yen Hsu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Address book in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Ming-Yen Hsu wrote: > Since most of the people will use a nick or alias for the email address of a > mailing list (such like fvwm=fvwm@shrug.org), would it be a feature that Pine > can look up the addressbook before completing the address. Not a very good idea. First of all most responsible mailing list administrators make sure that they send out FQDN so that replies and such will be easier on people. Then, the nick name you assign needs to be exactly the same as the mailing list address. The idea of a nickname is to shorten things. When sending to pine-info..... I'd much rather assign it a name of pine. And what happens if there are two lists with the same left-hand side? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:25:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12976; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:25:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26153; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:18:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26147; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:18:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgcsc-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: King Cheung Shu Subject: auto uudecode? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:59:56 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will pine automatically uudecode one or a series of uuencoded file(s)? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:25:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13007; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:25:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26192; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26186; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:20:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgcsl-00000MC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@andrew.triumf.ca (Andrew Daviel) Subject: MIME compose in pine ?? Date: 2 Sep 1994 00:38:53 GMT Message-Id: <345s6t$poj@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> OK, so now Pine uses .mailcap to read mail. But the compose is a bit of a kludge. send.c in 3.90 pokes around in the file and decides if it's a GIF, JPEG, audio/basic or PostScript file. There's also some checks to see if it looks like a binary file (from some spreadsheet ??). How about using .mime.types like Mosaic to map file extensions to application types? I can specify Mosaic as a viewer for HTML attachments I receive, but I can't send any, unless there's some way of overriding the type/subtype I haven't discovered. --

Andrew Daviel , TRIUMF , Vancouver, Canada


advax@triumf.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:38:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13475; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:38:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23909; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23903; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:32:46 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA03301; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:27:59 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant To: Eric Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "New mailbox modification time..." in Pine3.90 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Eric Ross wrote: > Using Pine3.90 on a DG/UX system we get occasional "New mailbox > modification time but apparently no changes" messages. We did not see > this message using Pine3.87. Can anyone suggest possible reasons for this > message? > > Eric Ross, Colorado College eross@cc.colorado.edu > I've been receiving this message as well. I've looked at my mailbox listings, but the files have not changed. We're also on DG/UX 5.4.201. Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | Systems Administrator | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | P.O. Box 2382 (519) 472-1072 fax | | London, ON | | Canada N6A 5A7 | *----------------------------------------------* If you don't change your direction - you're bound to end up where you're headed. - Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:39:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13554; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:39:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26463; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:33:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26457; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:33:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgd77-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: make errors in solaris Date: 2 Sep 94 01:27:00 GMT Message-Id: References: mikes@genasys.co.uk ("Michael J. Sheppard") writes: >Nelson, >On Mon, 29 Aug 1994, Nelson CHIN wrote: >> can someone help me with this, which i'm trying to build on a solaris: >> >> Making Pine. >> cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c >> "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename >> current : function(pointer to char, pointer to char) returning int >> previous: function(pointer to const char, pointer to const char) >I had this problem and am using the binary I built after solving it. >The Solaris build is setup to use the BSD compatible compiler under >Solaris 2.2. I have Solaris 2.3 and the SunPro ANSI Compiler. My system >is configured so that the default 'cc' command is the ANSI one, this does >not like addrbook.c at all. To get it to compile I forced it to use the >BSD compiler by adding the following line to makefile.sol. >CC=/usr/ucb/bin Please say it isn't so. No programs should use any of the bsd src compatibility cruft. There is serious brain damage lurking. >Using this pine builds without warnings. >BTW. Everything else builds fine with the ANSI compiler. If there is only one module that needs porting then it should be fixed. >Regards, >Mike >E-mail : michael.sheppard@genasys.co.uk >Voice : +44.(0)61.232.9444 >Fax : +44.(0)61.232.9453 -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:54:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14533; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:54:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24268; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24252; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:49:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgdPa-00000YC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Boyer Subject: pine user-domain setting Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:10:46 GMT I am running a DEC 3000-600 with OSF/1 v. 2.0. I have installed PINE 3.90 and really like it. However, I ran into an interesting situation in using the user-domain setting in the .pinerc or pine.conf files. When I set the user-domain to my full address coopext.cahe.wsu.edu, in either file, pine would strip off the hostname when I sent to a local id on the system. For example, if I sent it to me, TO: boyerj it would add the address boyerj@cahe.wsu.edu When user-domain was not set in both the .pinerc and pine.conf files the correct address would appear boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu Am I reading the purpose of user-domain wrong? I thought it would use the user-domain on local addresses? Anybody that can help me understand this I would greatly appreciate it. Note: I did test this on another test alpha we have with the same results. Thanks for the help, ============================================= Jim Boyer BOYERJ@COOPEXT.CAHE.WSU.EDU College of Agriculture and Home Economics Washington State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 11:59:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14779; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:59:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26929; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26923; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:54:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgdRv-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 11:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Scott Drassinower Subject: Pine 3.90 - Wow! Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 00:00:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just grabbed Pine 3.90 and compiled it here. It's fabulous. The newsreader is really great, and the Setup module is wonderful. But... How can I set a default sort preference for both my mail folder (say, newer messages at the top, like in elm), and then a preference for my news folder (sorted by subject)? I can change it everytime I go in, but am not sure how to make this permanent. Also, will anything ever be done with the arrow keys? When viewing a message, it would really be nice to hit the left arrow and get to the index, or hit the down arrow at the end of a message and get the next message. Just something to make life easier. -- Scott Drassinower * scottd@cloud9.net Cloud 9 Internet * White Plains, New York From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 12:22:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15771; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:22:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27304; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27298; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:09:19 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21738; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:09:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Andrew Daviel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME compose in pine ?? In-Reply-To: <345s6t$poj@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, We had hoped to get mime.types support into 3.90, but didn't make it. It should be in the next non-maintenance release. -teg On 2 Sep 1994, Andrew Daviel wrote: > OK, so now Pine uses .mailcap to read mail. But the compose is a bit of > a kludge. send.c in 3.90 pokes around in the file and decides if it's > a GIF, JPEG, audio/basic or PostScript file. There's also some checks > to see if it looks like a binary file (from some spreadsheet ??). > > How about using .mime.types like Mosaic to map file extensions to > application types? I can specify Mosaic as a viewer for HTML attachments > I receive, but I can't send any, unless there's some way of overriding > the type/subtype I haven't discovered. > > > -- >

> Andrew Daviel > , TRIUMF > , Vancouver, Canada >

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advax@triumf.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 12:35:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16165; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:35:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24960; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:22:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24954; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:21:55 -0700 Received: from andrew.Triumf.CA by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25557; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:21:54 -0700 Received: by andrew.triumf.ca (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qgXal-0003lvC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 12:19 GMT Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 12:19:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Andrew Daviel To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME compose in pine ?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1519270762-491625158-778508379=:10448" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1519270762-491625158-778508379=:10448 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Andrew, > We had hoped to get mime.types support into 3.90, but didn't make it. > It should be in the next non-maintenance release. > > -teg Great. I've just started using Pine on Linux after years of VAX/VMS mail, so I was playing with all the things I couldn't previously do, like multimedia attachments - Andrew --1519270762-491625158-778508379=:10448 Content-Type: IMAGE/GIF; name="signature.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: R0lGODdhQgAzAIAAAAAAAP///ywAAAAAQgAzAAAC2IyPqcvtD6OctNqLs968 ewuE4UciIhCI5acm6MqNiwxj9Fzbb7Pn083o+SDA4Kr4QOJIrZ+QVzo5f9Em kfLcoJQKbjereYG/1Khh7MJWzxJ0d51qG11ukFhOTpvP9XjedHTgJTjz1FfR 01e0GEhIZGjYyPb4xyeZohgJCGdJSbfJtHNi9fbpGDp6CHRziNXUqol5JDQo SGvrNLgKm3j3WDuph9eJNqpW2ibqS0c6bNLqJ4spJpUBBi3TW601NwVt153r owRsOhR+3vGdzt7u/g4fLz9PXw9TAAA7 --1519270762-491625158-778508379=:10448-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 14:11:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20469; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29764; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:04:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29758; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:04:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgfUC-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 13:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Subject: getting pine to snarf all /usr/spool/mail/user to ~/mbox Date: 2 Sep 1994 03:16:58 GMT Message-Id: <3465fa$r68@garuda.csulb.edu> In pine 3.88 I made a short local configuration change (provided by David L. Miller) to get pine to grab the users mail from the spool and put it in ~/mbox, if such a file already existed. This was a simple 2 line change to pine.c in previous versions, but after a quick grep thru the source tree, it looks like its not as obvious a change as last time. This was the previous diff on pine.c wren:~/tmp/pine3.88/pine $ diff pine.c pine.c~ 59c59 < nntpdriver, dawzdriver, mboxdriver; --- > nntpdriver, dawzdriver; 325d324 < mail_link((DRIVER *)&mboxdriver); Any suggestions as to what to change in pine 3.90 to get the same effect? -- _O_ Ryan L. Watkins vamp@csulb.edu | Academic Computing Services CSU Long Beach - Network Support | finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu for pgp public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 14:11:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20492; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:11:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27108; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:04:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27102; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:04:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgfTI-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tyton@crl.com (William M Davis) Subject: pinerc??? Date: 2 Sep 1994 12:13:48 -0700 Message-Id: <347thc$2cr@crl2.crl.com> Could someone please help me with the proper syntax for constructing a pinerc file for PcPine? My nntp server is nntp.crl.com & smtp is mail.crl.com I am running the lastest version of Pine & Trumpet Winsock V1.0a, I think:) After I estasblish the Slip connection and load Pine I get several errors: ..nntp.. '] missing in context...I enclosed nntp.crl.com in brackets and I think that took care of it, but I still can't get Pine to find my INBOX or Folders on the Dial-up Server?? I have taken a wrong turn on the Information Superhighway;) could someone please wash the windshield, check the air, and give me directions:)))) Mike Davis Lost in Time & Lost in Pine... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 14:59:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22405; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:59:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28101; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:54:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28089; Fri, 2 Sep 94 14:54:48 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa06974; 2 Sep 94 17:54 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA18397; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:54:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 17:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine's interpretation of multipart/digest (& mailing list digests) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2138107840-755253631-778542342=:22757" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2138107840-755253631-778542342=:22757 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: [ I'm not a MIME expert, so if I'm just misinterpreting the RFC, please forgive me. This is the first time I've tried constructing one by hand, and that took me a couple of tries to get it exactly right. ] When I send myself the following file, what Pine displays as the list of parts is: Subject: Mime multipart/digest test message Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 6 lines Text, "Part one of MIME test message" 2 Shown 144 bytes Message, "This part of the test message is content ty 2.1 Shown 3 lines Text 3 Shown 8 lines Text, ""This is the third and last part of the test m 4 Shown 3 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Please ignore that "third and last" above. I added part 4 later. ] I thought that for Content-type: multipart/digest, the default for each part was message/rfc822, not text. [ rfc1521 ] | 7.2.4. The Multipart/digest subtype | | This document defines a "digest" subtype of the multipart Content- | Type. This type is syntactically identical to multipart/mixed, but | the semantics are different. In particular, in a digest, the default | Content-Type value for a body part is changed from "text/plain" to | "message/rfc822". This is done to allow a more readable digest | format that is largely compatible (except for the quoting convention) | with RFC 934. The attachment list above lists all the parts as Text, except for the one part that has an explicit Context-type: message-rfc822 header. I suppose the general escape clause that message/rfc822 is a subtype of text, and that if you don't understand a text subtype, it's reasonable to treat it (more-or-less) as test/plain, could be a justification. Part 2 ( the one with the explicit Content-type: message/rfc822 header ) is doubly listed as : part 2 Message, the body of which shows includes the headers, part 2.1 Text, the body of which does not contain the rfc822 headers, only the message body text. Is this double listing a side effect of Justification #1 above ? On the positive side: This was a test that was a followup to my post about using MIME multipart/digest for mailing list digests. I wanted to see what Pine did with one BEFORE suggesting enhancements. Although Pine does initially display all of the text sections "inline" , you can still select a message from the view attachment list. If a digester puts something into the Content-Description: like '(From:) subject', it makes a reasonable way to look thru a large digest. One can then save the message into a file which can be opened as a folder ( at least with Pine I was able to do so. It is missing a bsd-mbox "From " line, so it may not be considered a mail folder by non c-client programs. ) and a REPLY to that extracted message worked properly. So, while I'ld like *better* support for Messages in Pine, the existing functionality still beats having to unpack an entire digest to individually reply to one message. What I'ld *like* to see is something like a MIME multipart/digest driver for c-client, so that a multipart/digest could be treated just like another folder. ( I don't know if such a recursive use of Pine is possible. ) It would also be nice if other messages from a folder could be attached without first having to extract them to a file. I also note that in trying to reply to a multipart message, when I ask to include the message in my reply, it only includes the initial section. I assume that this is intentional: so that people don't unintentionally include large attachments. ( Not necessarily complaining here: If you aren't going to provide any options, attaching only part one is probably the better thing to do. ) [ Pine 3.90 is really great, guys! However, now that it's twice as usable as 3.89, I'm using it four times as often. ( If it only had mush's 'pick' or some equivalent!!! ) So you may actually get MORE requests for features, etc. ;-) ] - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics ---2138107840-755253631-778542342=:22757 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="mime.digest" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: A test multipart/message mime file VG86IHNkbTdnQFZpcmdpbmlhLkVEVQ0KTUlNRS1WZXJzaW9uOiAxLjANClN1 YmplY3Q6IE1pbWUgbXVsdGlwYXJ0L2RpZ2VzdCB0ZXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UNCkNv bnRlbnQtVHlwZTogbXVsdGlwYXJ0L2RpZ2VzdDsgYm91bmRhcnk9Ii0tLS1u ZXh0LW1lc3NhZ2UtIg0KDQoNClRoaXMgaXMgYSB0ZXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UgY29u dGFpbmluZyBNSU1FICBtdWx0aXBhcnQvZGlnZXN0IA0KbWVzc2FnZXMuIFRo aXMgbWVzc2FnZSBpcyBub3QgZGlzcGxheWVkIGJ5IGEgTUlNRSB2aWV3ZXIu DQoNCg0KLS0tLS0tbmV4dC1tZXNzYWdlLQ0KQ29udGVudC1EZXNjcmlwdGlv bjogUGFydCBvbmUgb2YgTUlNRSB0ZXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UNCg0KRnJvbTogc2Rt N2dAVmlyZ2luaWEuRURVDQpUbzogIndob20gaXQgbWF5IGNvbmNlcm4iIA0K U3ViamVjdDogUGFydCBvbmUgb2YgTUlNRSB0ZXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UuIA0KDQpU aGlzIGlzIHBhcnQgb25lLiANCkFsbCBvZiBpdC4gDQoNCi0tLS0tLW5leHQt bWVzc2FnZS0NCkNvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogTWVzc2FnZS9yZmM4MjINCkNvbnRl bnQtRGVzY3JpcHRpb246IFRoaXMgcGFydCBvZiB0aGUgdGVzdCBtZXNzYWdl IGlzIGNvbnRlbnQgdHlwZSA9IE1lc3NhZ2UvcmZjODIyDQoNCkZyb206IHNk bTdnQFZpcmdpbmlhLkVEVQ0KVG86ICJ3aG9tIGl0IG1heSBjb25jZXJuIiAN ClN1YmplY3Q6IFBhcnQgdHdvIG9mIE1JTUUgdGVzdCBtZXNzYWdlLiANCg0K VGhpcyBpcyBwYXJ0IHR3by4gDQpBbGwgb2YgaXQuIA0KQWxsIG9mIGl0LiAN Cg0KLS0tLS0tbmV4dC1tZXNzYWdlLQ0KQ29udGVudC1JRDogPDFAMT4gKCJ0 byB3aG9tIGl0IG1heSBjb25jZXJuIikNCkNvbnRlbnQtRGVzY3JpcHRpb246 ICJUaGlzIGlzIHRoZSB0aGlyZCBhbmQgbGFzdCBwYXJ0IG9mIHRoZSB0ZXN0 IG1lc3NhZ2UuIg0KDQpGcm9tOiBzZG03Z0BWaXJnaW5pYS5FRFUNClRvOiAi d2hvbSBpdCBtYXkgY29uY2VybiIgDQpTdWJqZWN0OiBQYXJ0IHRocmVlIG9m IE1JTUUgdGVzdCBtZXNzYWdlLiANCg0KVGhpcyBpcyBwYXJ0IHRocmVlLiAN CkFsbCBvZiBpdC4gDQpBbGwgb2YgaXQuIA0KQWxsIG9mIGl0LiANCg0KLS0t LS0tbmV4dC1tZXNzYWdlLQ0KDQpUaGUgZW5kLiANCg0KLSBTdGV2ZSANCg0K LS0tLS0tbmV4dC1tZXNzYWdlLS0tDQo= ---2138107840-755253631-778542342=:22757-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 16:08:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24785; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:08:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29300; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:02:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29294; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:02:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qghKP-00000MC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Newsgroups - How to post articles to local server? Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 22:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug31.071251.12583@lostlink.alt.za> <1994Sep1.161358.18903@lostlink.alt.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Sep1.161358.18903@lostlink.alt.za> What you need to do is start up an NNTP server on your machine, then point Pine at localhost. A bit convoluted, but I don't see why it won't work... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > Ed Greshko (egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: > : On Wed, 31 Aug 1994, Warwick Ward-Cox wrote: > > : > I am running pine 3.90, but can't seem to post messages to my newsgroups, > : > it keeps coming up saying "no server defined for newsgroups" even if I > : > put in my domain name in the nntp-server option it doesn't work. > > : You need to put the name of a "host" that is acting as an > : NNTP server. Not your domain name. > > Problem is I have a UUCP link with my host, so Pine returns and says cant > make link with NNTP server or something like that.. > > What I need it to do is update my /var/spool/news directly as though the > server was local? > > Thanks, > Warwick > > > > -- > > --- --------------------------------------------------------------- > | Warwick Ward-Cox Email : wwar@lostlink.alt.za | > | Sysop of Lost Link Fidonet : 5:7102/134 | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 16:09:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24815; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:09:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02230; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02224; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:05:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qghMT-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 15:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: adds to pine's newsreader? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:09:14 +0100 (WET DST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello! I discovered last night the pine3.90. Compiled it and it's great! Congratulations to the developing team!! However I have three questions/ideas: * is there any method to define a kill file for newsgroups? You can't use something like procmail to filter them. * once Dismissed and eXpunged a news article I didn't found any method to review that article (or to see again all the articles still available on the news server for that group). * I can access a news server which is not very rich in newsgroups. But I have another account on a machine in a completely different site, which is allowed to connect to a there local news server which is much richer in newsgroups. The direct connection with the rich news server from the machine I work daily is refused by the server. The question: is there a possibility to use the richer news server using my remote account without starting pine on the remote machine? I mean using imapd or alike? Again congratulations for the good work you've done, Mihai Lazarescu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 16:44:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25914; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:44:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29964; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:40:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29958; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:40:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qghyC-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mackiner@bach.seattleu.edu (Thomas McInerney) Subject: How to break-out digest messages? Date: 2 Sep 1994 00:54:08 -0700 Message-Id: <346ln0$gb4@bach.seattleu.edu> I susbscribe to a mail list from which my messages are in digest form, usually two messages of about 30-40 messages each per day; I was wondering if anybody has written a script or program for Pine that will allow me to "break-out" my long digest messages into separate messages, and then treat them as I would other e-mail messages? Somebody sent me a script that will do this for the Elm program, but Elm isn't available here. mackiner@seattleu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 16:54:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26253; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00233; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:48:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00219; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:48:38 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa15895; 2 Sep 94 19:48 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA17273; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 19:48:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 19:48:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine SELECT vs. mush pick (was: Pine's interpretation of multipart/digest) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Rather than just saying "RTFM" :-), Terry Gray politely wrote: > Steve, > I'm not a mush user, and don't have access to it on our systems, so could > I trouble you to explain what mush's "pick" function does? Actually, I hadn't yet tried all of the new functions out, and I misunderstood how SELECT works. It looks like SELECT and APPLY give me just about the same capability as mush 'pick'. And used with ZOOM, it may even be better! I'm CC-ing this to the list, as there may be a few other dense souls like me out there, who may take some time to discover all the neat new features. Also, Re: the filter FAQ thread : Perhaps discovering that they can SELECT a group of messages and APPLY SAVE to another folder to that group, will satisfy them. It's not automatic, like filter/procmail - but I agree that a MUA is not the place for automatic filtering. ] Up to now, I've been maintaining Pine here for other users, and maybe only using it myself 15% of the time. ( For imap & mime support ). It now looks, with 3.90 and BOUNCE/SELECT/ APPLY/PIPE/ZOOM, plus all of the new configuration options, that I can finally accept Pine as my everyday mailreader! Did I mention that I also like the way TAKE-ADDRESS works now. Also that rich-header mode in compose gives you newsgroups as well as mail destinations, so I can reply to a mailing list and "cc" a newsgroup. Even *MORE* impressed! ( Like they say in the commercial "It's IN there!" ) Just one minor complaint. ( Well - just one non MIME related complaint! ). Not to forget needs of the novice user, with all those new advanced features: I have notices that some commands ( BOUNCE for one example ) have a "^G Get Help" at the bottom of the screen, but there is not help for that command. But what is bad is that it doesn't say "no help available", it just sits there and looks unresponsive. ( Which is why I don't recall the commands before BOUNCE where this happened - I just kept trying to get help, and the ^C-ed out. ) - Confusing! - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 17:02:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26577; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:02:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00383; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:59:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00377; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:59:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29683; Fri, 2 Sep 94 16:59:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 16:59:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Steven D. Majewski" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Missing Help (was: Pine SELECT vs. mush pick (was: Pine's interpretation of multipart/digest) ) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Not to forget needs of the novice user, with all those new > advanced features: > I have notices that some commands ( BOUNCE for one example ) > have a "^G Get Help" at the bottom of the screen, but there > is not help for that command. But what is bad is that it > doesn't say "no help available", it just sits there and > looks unresponsive. Definitely a bug! Please let us know if you see any other commands missing their help text besides Bounce... -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 17:18:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27407; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:18:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00835; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:14:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00829; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:14:52 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa17446; 2 Sep 94 20:14 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA21158; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:14:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:14:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Thomas McInerney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to break-out digest messages? In-Reply-To: <346ln0$gb4@bach.seattleu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1994, Thomas McInerney wrote: > I susbscribe to a mail list from which my messages are in digest form, > usually two messages of about 30-40 messages each per day; I was wondering > if anybody has written a script or program for Pine that will allow me > to "break-out" my long digest messages into separate messages, and then > treat them as I would other e-mail messages? Somebody sent me a script > that will do this for the Elm program, but Elm isn't available here. > mackiner@seattleu.edu Well, this is not what you want, but following up on my other thread: I tried editing the header of a mail digest and adding these lines: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" and reading it back: (1) boundary is unlikely to be exactly the same in all mail digests. (2) It wasn't exactly the same even within the one I tried, so it only almost worked. The first boundary was longer. And MIME expects the last one two have an extra trailing "--" . But, again - it mostly worked, and didn't require undigesting the whole digest. So if I were going to write a script, rather than an "undigester", I'ld write a digest->MIME multipart/digest converter. ( But, typically the problem is, mailing list managers and programs tend to be notorious non-followers of standard and convention, so I don't know if there is a consistant enough pattern to do either the undigest or the mime-ify automatically. I'll have to collect a sample from several digests. Mush's undigest allows you to specify the pattern to split on. ( I think elm does also ) The default is 8*"-" as an initial string. Both of them can sometimes mis-split messages. - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 17:34:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27868; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:34:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01076; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:31:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.infinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01068; Fri, 2 Sep 94 17:31:26 -0700 Received: by mail.infinet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qgj0x-000DTIC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:31 EDT Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 20:31:26 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Harvey" Subject: Re: How to break-out digest messages? To: Thomas McInerney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <346ln0$gb4@bach.seattleu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1994, Thomas McInerney wrote: > I susbscribe to a mail list from which my messages are in digest form, > usually two messages of about 30-40 messages each per day; I was wondering > if anybody has written a script or program for Pine that will allow me > to "break-out" my long digest messages into separate messages, and then > treat them as I would other e-mail messages? Somebody sent me a script > that will do this for the Elm program, but Elm isn't available here. > mackiner@seattleu.edu Good idea, please send me the info too, I have Pine 3.89 and Elm 2.4. Dave ___ **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave M. Harvey Key ID B3 CC E2 DD PO Box 151311 Fingerprint 43 52 55 1F 6C 48 91 1F Columbus, OH 43215-8311 4C B9 90 AA 04 DC 76 AF Also availble at dharvey@freenet.columbus.oh.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 18:35:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29288; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:35:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04903; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:32:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04897; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:32:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgjfh-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: martin@mrrl.lut.ac.uk (Martin Hamilton) Subject: Pine 3.90 & MIME Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 13:00:37 GMT Is there any way of specifying the MIME content-type/encoding when you compose a message ? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 19:00:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29912; Fri, 2 Sep 94 19:00:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02286; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from 129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02280; Fri, 2 Sep 94 18:52:06 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 3 Sep 94 09:49:41 -0800 Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 09:49:39 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: King Cheung Shu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: auto uudecode? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, King Cheung Shu wrote: > Will pine automatically uudecode one or a series of uuencoded file(s)? > If the uuencoded file has been sent as a MIME attachment then this can be achived by use of the .mailcap file. If the uuencoded file is part of the message body then you can use the | (pipe) command. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 19:25:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00465; Fri, 2 Sep 94 19:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02619; Fri, 2 Sep 94 19:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02613; Fri, 2 Sep 94 19:20:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgkTD-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 19:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egghead@cloud9.net (egghead / iCE) Subject: Help. Date: 2 Sep 1994 15:20:12 GMT Message-Id: <347frv$gvi@news.cloud9.net> Ok, I need some help trying to make what I want to do work corrently. Here it goes: I have a "Distribution List" that I would like to run. I have around 20 names or so in Pine's Addressbook under one alias. What I want to happen, is that when someone sends a message to iCE@cloud9.net (the list's address), that it takes that message, and sends it to all 20 people definied in the addressbook alias. Is there any way to do this using Pine? I'm using Pine 3.90. If you tell me the solution is filter, can you tell me where I can find the Elm Filter Guide? Thanks. -Brad egghead@cloud9.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 20:46:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01920; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:46:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06599; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06593; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qglez-00000VC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith K Chau Subject: Ispell 3.1.8 with PINE 3.90 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 12:12:34 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have recently installed the lastest version of Ispell 3.1.8 to replace the less advanced, GNU (discontinued) version 4.0. But I find that the new version cannot act as a direct replacement for the GNU one and is not working properly with PINE. I would like to know if there are things that I should fine-tune before using this new version. Thanks. Keith P.S. I am running Linux 1.1.49 here. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 20:47:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01955; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:47:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03610; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:40:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03604; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:40:15 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa28363; 2 Sep 94 23:40 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA14889; Fri, 2 Sep 1994 23:40:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 23:40:13 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: digest->mime multipart/digest (strange interpretations) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just tried to throw together a Python program that would convert mail digests in somewhat standard form into MIME multipart/digest messages with From + Subject fields concatenated into the Content-Description: header of each part. I was tearing my hair out trying to figure out why it didn't quite work. ( and I don't have that much to spare! )-: It *LOOKED* like a proper MIME file! One odd clue, though, was that Pine was displaying the headers oddly - with a blank line in the middle of the headers. ( The blank line wasn't in the file! ) Then I stumbled upon the fact that sending the modified file back to myself via 'sendmail -ba' seemed to fix it. (?) When I extracted the message I was going to mimeify with mush instead of Pine, the procedure also worked. I tried dumping the message from Pine with SAVE rather than EXTRACT ( which is what I must have first used. ) - YES. Than also worked. Unfortunately, the PIPE command seems to do the same thing as EXTRACT ( i.e. only output a subset of the headers. ), so I can't pipe a message to this digest2mime script. I had noted the difference between SAVE and EXTRACT before, but I recall in one of the earlier versions of Pine, it wouldn't let you open something that wasn't a proper folder. In this case, I am able to open the file as a folder, and get an index of it's contents ( 1 message ), but something keeps it from being interpreted as a proper MIME message - or maybe even as a proper Mail message. With full headers off, there is a empty line displayed after a Subject: line containing the file name. This line is not in the file, and there is a real Subject line below the blank line ( which is also not in the file at that place, but is in the pine display ) which appears to be not properly interpreted as part of the headers. ( This is also the problem with proper MIME interpretation: when I turn on full headers, there are two sets of MIME-Version and Content-Type headers: the incorrect ones that Pine is adding on the top, and the correct ones below. ) The display looks like this: [ PINE 3.90 MESSAGE TEXT xxxx.mime.tmp(READONLY) Msg 1 of 1 ] Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 02:54:43 +0000 From: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU Subject: /home/sdm7g/.Mail/xxxx.mime.tmp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From List-Managers-Digest-Owner@GreatCircle.COM Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:10:08 -0700 From: List-Managers-Digest-Owner@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="--------next-message-" Subject: List Managers Digest V3 #149 and what is actually in the file is: >From List-Managers-Digest-Owner@GreatCircle.COM Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:10:08 -0700 From: List-Managers-Digest-Owner@GreatCircle.COM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="--------next-message-" Subject: List Managers Digest V3 #149 If I try a REPLY, it appears to extract the From: line into the composer screen properly, so it seems to be considered *some* sort of message. Could it be being interpreted as a NEWS message rather than a Mail message, ( even though it's in my Mail folder ) because of some missing header line. And what is the significantly missing line ? Can PIPE and EXPORT be configured to output the necessary lines ? -- Clueless, but not yet hairless in Charlottesville -- - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 21:13:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02473; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:13:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04004; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:10:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03998; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:10:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgmAH-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: getting pine to snarf all /usr/spool/mail/user to ~/mbox Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:12:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <3465fa$r68@garuda.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3465fa$r68@garuda.csulb.edu> In Pine 3.90, you can add the mbox driver by simply adding it to the build command line, e.g. build ult EXTRADRIVERS=mbox |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Sep 1994, VampLestat wrote: > In pine 3.88 I made a short local configuration change (provided by David > L. Miller) to get pine to grab the users mail from the spool and put it in > ~/mbox, if such a file already existed. > > This was a simple 2 line change to pine.c in previous versions, but after a > quick grep thru the source tree, it looks like its not as obvious a change > as last time. > > This was the previous diff on pine.c > wren:~/tmp/pine3.88/pine $ diff pine.c pine.c~ > 59c59 > < nntpdriver, dawzdriver, mboxdriver; > --- > > nntpdriver, dawzdriver; > 325d324 > < mail_link((DRIVER *)&mboxdriver); > > Any suggestions as to what to change in pine 3.90 to get the same effect? > > > > > -- > _O_ Ryan L. Watkins vamp@csulb.edu > | Academic Computing Services CSU Long Beach - Network Support > | finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu for pgp public key > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 21:54:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03117; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07456; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:51:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07450; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:51:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgmp4-000008C; Fri, 2 Sep 94 21:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: adds to pine's newsreader? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > Hello! > > I discovered last night the pine3.90. Compiled it and it's great! > Congratulations to the developing team!! > Thanks! > However I have three questions/ideas: > > * is there any method to define a kill file for newsgroups? You can't > use something like procmail to filter them. > Not at this time :( > * once Dismissed and eXpunged a news article I didn't found any method > to review that article (or to see again all the articles still > available on the news server for that group). > Use '&' to Unexclude. > * I can access a news server which is not very rich in newsgroups. > But I have another account on a machine in a completely different site, > which is allowed to connect to a there local news server which is much > richer in newsgroups. The direct connection with the rich news server > from the machine I work daily is refused by the server. > > The question: is there a possibility to use the richer news server > using my remote account without starting pine on the remote machine? I > mean using imapd or alike? > You can actually get to both, assuming the remote site has imapd installed. In the Setup/Config screen set news-collections="Local News" *{localserver/nntp}[], "Remote News" *{remoteserver}[] then restart Pine. The "Local News" collection will access the local server via NNTP and use the .newsrc file on the local machine. The "Remote News" collection will access news on the remote system via IMAP and use the .newsrc file on the remote machine. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 22:35:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03773; Fri, 2 Sep 94 22:35:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07888; Fri, 2 Sep 94 22:32:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07882; Fri, 2 Sep 94 22:31:57 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa07074; 3 Sep 94 1:31 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA20099; Sat, 3 Sep 1994 01:31:55 -0400 Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime,comp.lang.python Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 01:31:50 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: List-Managers-Digest@greatcircle.com Subject: digest -> mime multi-part digest Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2138107840-2078917053-778568888=:24683" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2138107840-2078917053-778568888=:24683 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Here's a Python script to convert digests with "\n--------" message separators into a mime Content-type: multipart/digest message. [ Python info: or ] A MIME-aware mail-reader like Pine, for example, shows the single messages as attachments: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1994 01:10:05 -0700 From: List-Managers-Digest-Owner@GreatCircle.COM Reply to: List-Managers@GreatCircle.COM To: List-Managers-Digest@GreatCircle.COM Subject: List Managers Digest V3 #152 Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 19 lines Text 2 Shown 32 lines Text, "Re: .forward files and rewriting of headers (Jerry Peek -- UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics ---2138107840-2078917053-778568888=:24683 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="digest2mime.py" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Python program to convert old digest form to mime multipart/ IyEvdXNyL2xvY2FsL2Jpbi9weXRob24NCg0KZnJvbSByZmM4MjIgaW1wb3J0 IE1lc3NhZ2UNCmltcG9ydCBzdHJpbmcNCg0KIw0KIyBVc2FnZTogZGlnZXN0 Mm1pbWUucHkgIFsgaW5wdXQtZmlsZSBbb3V0cHV0LWZpbGVdXSANCiMgCUlm IG91dHB1dCBmaWxlIGlzIG1pc3NpbmcsIHdyaXRlIHRvIHN0ZG91dA0KIyAJ SWYgb3V0cHV0ICYgaW5wdXQgbWlzc2luZzogcmVhZCBzdGRpbiAmIHdyaXRl IHN0ZG91dA0KIw0KIyBUaGlzIHByb2dyYW0gcmVhZHMgaW4gYSBzaW5nbGUg cmZjODIyIG1lc3NhZ2UgY29udGFpbmluZyBhIA0KIyBkaWdlc3QgaW4gdGhl IHNvbWV3aGF0IHN0YW5kYXJkIGZvcm0gd2hlcmUgJ1xuLS0tLS0tLS0nLiog DQojIHNlcGFyYXRlcyBtZXNzYWdlcywgYW5kIHdyaXRlcyBvdXQgYSBzaW5n bGUgcmZjODIyIA0KIyBtaW1lIG11bHRpcGFydC9tZXNzYWdlIGZpbGUgd2l0 aCBlYWNoIGRpZ2VzdCBtZXNzYWdlIA0KIyBhcyBhIHBhcnQuIA0KIw0KIyBT dWJqZWN0OiBhbmQgRnJvbTogaGVhZGVycyBhcmUgY29uY2F0ZW5hdGVkIGlu dG8gdGhlIA0KIyBDb250ZW50X0Rlc2NyaXB0aW9uOiBoZWFkZXJzLiAoIFRo aXMgc2hvdWxkIGJlIHBhcnNlZCANCiMgYW5kIHNob3J0ZW5lZCBmdXJ0aGVy IGluZm8gaXMgdmlzaWJsZSBvbiBzaG9ydCBsaW5lcy4pDQojDQoNCkNvbnRl bnRfVHlwZSA9ICJDb250ZW50LVR5cGU6IG11bHRpcGFydC9kaWdlc3Q7IGJv dW5kYXJ5PSIgDQpJc01pbWVFcnJvciA9ICdJc01pbWVFcnJvcicgDQoNCmRl ZiBtaW1laWZ5KCBmcCwgZGJvdW5kLCBtYm91bmQsIG91dCApOg0KIyAgZnAg aXMgaW5wdXQgZmlsZQ0KIyAgZGJvdW5kIGlzIHRoZSAoaW5wdXQpIGRpZ2Vz dCBib3VuZGFyeSBzdHJpbmcgDQojICBtYm91bmQgaXMgdGhlIChvdXRwdXQp IG1pbWUgbXVsdGlwYXJ0IGJvdW5kYXJ5IHN0cmluZw0KIyAgb3V0IGlzIHRo ZSBzaW5rIGZ1bmN0aW9uIGZvciBvdXRwdXQgKHR5cGljYWxseTogZmlsZS53 cml0ZSBvciBsaXN0LmFwcGVuZCkNCiMgDQoJbSA9IE1lc3NhZ2UoIGZwICkJ IyBwYXJzZXMgcmZjODIyIGhlYWRlcnMsIGFuZCBsZWF2ZXMgZmlsZSBwb3Mg YXQgbm9uIGhlYWRlciBsaW5lDQoJaWYgbS5nZXRoZWFkZXIoJ01pbWUtVmVy c2lvbicpIDogDQoJCXJhaXNlICBJc01pbWVFcnJvciwgJ21lc3NhZ2UgaXMg YWxyZWFkeSBpbiBNSU1FIGZvcm1hdCcNCgkJIyBpdCdzIHBvc3NpYmxlIHRv IGNoZWNrIENvbnRlbnQtVHlwZTogYW5kIHNlZSBpZiBhbnkNCgkJIyBmdXJ0 aGVyIHByb2Nlc3NpbmcgY2FuIGJlIGRvbmUsIGJ1dCBmb3Igbm93OiBOTy4g DQoJbS5oZWFkZXJzLmFwcGVuZCggJ01JTUUtVmVyc2lvbjogMS4wXG4nICkN CgltLmhlYWRlcnMuYXBwZW5kKCBDb250ZW50X1R5cGUgKyAnIicgKyBtYm91 bmQgKyAnIiBcbicgKQ0KCWZvciBsaW5lIGluIG0uaGVhZGVyczoNCgkJb3V0 KCBsaW5lICkNCglvdXQoICdcblxuIFRoaXMgTUlNRSBkaWdlc3QgcHJvZHVj ZWQgYnkgZGlnZXN0Mm1pbWUucHlcbicgKQ0KCW91dCggIiBJZiB5b3UgY2Fu IHJlYWQgdGhpcywgdGhlbiB5b3UgZG9uJ3QgbmVlZCB0aGUgcHJvZ3JhbSFc biIgKQ0KCW91dCggJ1xuLS0nK21ib3VuZCsnXG5cbicgKQ0KCWRibGVuID0g bGVuKCBkYm91bmQgKQ0KCWxpbmUgPSAnVHJ1ZScgDQoJd2hpbGUgbGluZTog IA0KIyBjdXJyZW50IHZlcnNpb24gb25seSByZWFkcyBleHBlY3RzIGEgZmls ZSB3aXRoIGEgc2luZ2xlIGRpZ2VzdA0KIyBNdXN0IGNoZWNrIGZvciBtZXNz YWdlIGRlbGltaXRlciBpZiB3ZSB3YW50IHRvIGhhbmRsZSBtdWx0aXBsZXMN CgkJbGluZSA9IGZwLnJlYWRsaW5lKCkNCgkJaWYgbGluZVs6ZGJsZW5dID09 IGRib3VuZCA6IA0KCQkJbGluZSA9IGZwLnJlYWRsaW5lKCkgICMgc2hvdWxk IGJlIGEgYmxhbmsgbGluZSAtIG91Z2h0IHRvIHZlcmlmeQ0KCQkJb3V0KCAn XG4tLScrbWJvdW5kKydcbicgKQ0KCQkJbW0gPSBNZXNzYWdlKCBmcCApIA0K CQkJc3ViaiA9IHN0cmluZy5zdHJpcChtbS5nZXRoZWFkZXIoJ3N1YmplY3Qn KSBvciAnJykNCgkJCWZybSA9ICBzdHJpbmcuc3RyaXAobW0uZ2V0aGVhZGVy KCdmcm9tJykgb3IgJycpDQoJCQlpZiBmcm0gb3Igc3ViaiA6DQoJCQkJb3V0 KCAnQ29udGVudC1EZXNjcmlwdGlvbjogJytzdWJqWzo0NF0rICcgKCcgK2Zy bSsnKVxuXG4nICkNCgkJCWVsc2U6IG91dCggJ1xuJyApDQoJCQlmb3IgaGRy IGluIG1tLmhlYWRlcnM6IG91dCggaGRyICkJCQkNCgkJZWxzZTogb3V0KCBs aW5lICApIA0KCW91dCggJ1xuLS0nICsgbWJvdW5kICsgJy0tXG4nICkgDQoN Cg0KDQppZiBfX25hbWVfXyA9PSAiX19tYWluX18iIDogDQogICAgaW1wb3J0 IHN5cw0KICAgIGlmIHN5cy5hcmd2WzE6XSA6IGZpbGUgPSBvcGVuKCBzeXMu YXJndlsxXSwgJ3InICkNCiAgICBlbHNlOiAgZmlsZSA9IHN5cy5zdGRpbiAN CiAgICBpZiBzeXMuYXJndlsyOl0gOiBvdXQgPSBvcGVuKCBzeXMuYXJndlsy XSwgJ3cnICkNCiAgICBlbHNlOiAgb3V0ID0gc3lzLnN0ZG91dCANCiAgICBt aW1laWZ5KCBmaWxlLCAnLScqOCwgJy0nKjgrIi4uLi4uX25leHRfbWVzc2Fn ZV8uLi4uLiIsIG91dC53cml0ZSApDQoNCg0K ---2138107840-2078917053-778568888=:24683-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 23:39:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04789; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:39:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05698; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:36:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05692; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:36:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgoP1-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIME compose in pine ?? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <345s6t$poj@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <345s6t$poj@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> We are planning to support .mime.types in a future release of Pine. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Sep 1994, Andrew Daviel wrote: > OK, so now Pine uses .mailcap to read mail. But the compose is a bit of > a kludge. send.c in 3.90 pokes around in the file and decides if it's > a GIF, JPEG, audio/basic or PostScript file. There's also some checks > to see if it looks like a binary file (from some spreadsheet ??). > > How about using .mime.types like Mosaic to map file extensions to > application types? I can specify Mosaic as a viewer for HTML attachments > I receive, but I can't send any, unless there's some way of overriding > the type/subtype I haven't discovered. > > > -- >

> Andrew Daviel > , TRIUMF > , Vancouver, Canada >

"http://sundae.triumf.ca/~andrew/sig2t.gif"> >
advax@triumf.ca > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Sep 2 23:40:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04826; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:40:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08622; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:36:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08616; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:36:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgoPD-00000YC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: =20 at end of lines Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <34658g$sms@tequesta.gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34658g$sms@tequesta.gate.net> Pine 3.87 did have an overly sensitive trigger for Q-P encoding. Upgrading to Pine 3.90 should help... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Sep 1994, Allen Mullen wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : Something in your message is triggering Quoted-Printable encoding. What > : version of Pine are you running? > > 3.87 > > Both the uploaded file incorporated into the message and the stuff I > type have the =20 at the end of every line except paragraph breaks. I > don't see it myself, only the people receiving my Email see it. > Everything looks fine to me when I send the Email. > Allen > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 00:29:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05713; Sat, 3 Sep 94 00:29:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06230; Sat, 3 Sep 94 00:17:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06224; Sat, 3 Sep 94 00:17:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgp3Y-00000PC; Fri, 2 Sep 94 23:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 - Wow! Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 09:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You can set a single default sort order for all folders by setting the "sort-key". We will probably implement the left-right keys when we work on hierarchical folder collections later this year... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, Scott Drassinower wrote: > > I just grabbed Pine 3.90 and compiled it here. It's fabulous. > The newsreader is really great, and the Setup module is wonderful. But... > > How can I set a default sort preference for both my mail folder > (say, newer messages at the top, like in elm), and then a preference for > my news folder (sorted by subject)? I can change it everytime I go in, > but am not sure how to make this permanent. > > Also, will anything ever be done with the arrow keys? When > viewing a message, it would really be nice to hit the left arrow and get > to the index, or hit the down arrow at the end of a message and get the > next message. Just something to make life easier. > > -- > Scott Drassinower * scottd@cloud9.net > Cloud 9 Internet * White Plains, New York > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 01:06:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06996; Sat, 3 Sep 94 01:06:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09819; Sat, 3 Sep 94 01:02:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09813; Sat, 3 Sep 94 01:02:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgpk6-00000PC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: auto uudecode? Date: Fri, 2 Sep 1994 10:04:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine won't do it automatically, but you can use the Pipe (|) command to pass a message through uudecode... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 2 Sep 1994, King Cheung Shu wrote: > Will pine automatically uudecode one or a series of uuencoded file(s)? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 04:54:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12007; Sat, 3 Sep 94 04:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09811; Sat, 3 Sep 94 04:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09805; Sat, 3 Sep 94 04:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgtJZ-00000YC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holee@newstand.syr.edu (Vorpal Bunny(Bored)) Subject: Posting to Newsgroups? Date: 2 Sep 1994 22:36:50 GMT Message-Id: <3489e2$k23@newstand.syr.edu> This has probably been asked before...but.. I'm using PINE v3.89, and I was wondering if there was I way could post to a newsgroup. Any help would be greatly appreciated.. -- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ \\ \\ |(C) This Post/Letter is Copyrighted 1994, And it's MINE!MINE! | \\-\\ |Now I'm Going Back to Bed... *Keeper of the Forbush Man Flame*| ( X-X) YAWN \--------------------------------------------------------------/ {_^_} _/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 05:24:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12653; Sat, 3 Sep 94 05:24:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13103; Sat, 3 Sep 94 05:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13097; Sat, 3 Sep 94 05:20:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgtj3-00000YC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 04:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9348795@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Blain Nelson) Subject: Re: auto uudecode? Message-Id: References: Date: 2 Sep 94 22:55:06 GMT King Cheung Shu writes: >Will pine automatically uudecode one or a series of uuencoded file(s)? You can set Pine up to do this from the Setup screen. Select alternate printer and enter uudecode as the printer. Then, when you wish to uudecode the z>yæfile, just select it and hit y for printer, y again to say that you really meant y in the first place, and d to delete the message (unless you really don't want to). That's as close as I've found thus far. Blain (BTW< the credit for this little discovery goes to Richard Finegold, who is a great programmer and a fine person.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 11:03:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18294; Sat, 3 Sep 94 11:03:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16948; Sat, 3 Sep 94 10:55:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16942; Sat, 3 Sep 94 10:55:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgz1Q-00000PC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 10:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 11:22:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: References: <9408300952.AA07771@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408300952.AA07771@LL.MIT.EDU> I have also experienced this. Farid Hamjavar UNM-CIRT hamjavar@unm.edu On Tue, 30 Aug 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 13:52:42 GMT > From: James Dryfoos > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Deletes appear slower in 3.90? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 12:07:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20138; Sat, 3 Sep 94 12:07:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14744; Sat, 3 Sep 94 11:59:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14732; Sat, 3 Sep 94 11:59:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qgzzl-00000PC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news Date: Sat, 3 Sep 1994 12:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: References: <3432q7$5u3@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Sep 1994 10:12:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: David L Miller > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news > > > Use > pine -f "*{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" FYI: That command did not lead in an open folder related to "comp.mail.pine" !!! Pine actually did open it but I could not *see* it. Therefor, I used 'g' and gave the following address and then it opened it up: *{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine So, what's the point of that command line if you have to retype the newsgroup-folder name? At any rate, it's fine by me.... Thanks, Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 13:31:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21871; Sat, 3 Sep 94 13:31:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18780; Sat, 3 Sep 94 13:23:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18774; Sat, 3 Sep 94 13:23:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qh1Mt-00000YC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and VMS -- No VMSBUILD.COM in ].PINE( directory Message-Id: <1994Sep3.214310.5077@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 3 Sep 94 21:43:10 GMT References: <345cnf$gvt@dragon.nofc.forestry.ca> > I just downloaded Pine 3.90 and tried to build it on VMS. I had no > problems in the Ý.PICO¨ and Ý.C-CLIENT¨ directories, but in the Ý.PINE¨ > directory, there is no VMSBUILD.COM file. Has anybody tried to build Pine > on VMS, and if so, could you pass along your .COM file to me? The PINE directory was not ported to VMS yet. I am working on it and will announce the availability on this list when I am done. __Yehavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 14:36:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22920; Sat, 3 Sep 94 14:36:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16510; Sat, 3 Sep 94 14:29:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16504; Sat, 3 Sep 94 14:29:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qh2MC-00000PC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajwright@use.usit.net (John Wright) Subject: Pine for Vax/VMS Date: 3 Sep 1994 16:51:54 -0400 Message-Id: <34anla$n7s@use.usit.net> Due to the broken (as designed) mail reader the comes with the Vax, I was wondering if there were binaries anywhere on the `net for the Vax. My school has a Vax 8650, a Vax 11/780, MicroVax 3100. Please reply by email to ajwright@use.usit.net. Thanks! -- --AJW A. John Wright -- Computron Management Engineer ajwright@use.usit.net ajwright@pstcc.cc.tn.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 17:11:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25741; Sat, 3 Sep 94 17:11:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21318; Sat, 3 Sep 94 17:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21310; Sat, 3 Sep 94 17:03:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qh4oO-00000PC; Sat, 3 Sep 94 16:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Date: 3 Sep 1994 23:47:18 GMT Message-Id: <34b1u6$gmn@trane.uninett.no> References: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> <9408311337.AA09319@nada.kth.se> Peter Svanberg (psv@nada.kth.se) wrote: : Quoting: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) : > : > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard : > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 : > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit : > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? : No and yes... We have almost the same problem, and I am : working on a patch for it. : --- : Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se : Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 : S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 This problem is probably common to most European sites using Pine. Pine 3.90 is indeed a wonderful mail-program, and in fact the only feature we are missing is the ability to switch quoted-printable on/off. At least in the Nordic countries many sites are using MTAs that are capable of handling 8bit coded mail. Turning QP off will then be quite safe. I hope the Pine development team will consider this as a future enhancement. Meanwhile, I hope Peter Svanberg will share his patch with us, giving notification to this newsgroup. - Jan Erik. *** Jan Erik Kofoed Phone (office): +47 73 90 44 20 *** *** Geological Survey of Norway Fax (office): +47 73 92 16 20 *** *** P.O. Box 3006 Lade Phone (home) : +47 72 58 30 04 *** *** N-7002 Trondheim, NORWAY *** *** E-mail: Jan.Kofoed@ngu.no X.400: G=Jan;S=Kofoed;O=ngu;P=UNINETT;C=no *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 21:06:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29142; Sat, 3 Sep 94 21:06:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20891; Sat, 3 Sep 94 20:56:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20885; Sat, 3 Sep 94 20:56:42 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Sep 94 11:54:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 11:54:16 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Vorpal Bunny Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Posting to Newsgroups? In-Reply-To: <3489e2$k23@newstand.syr.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Sep 1994, Vorpal Bunny wrote: > I'm using PINE v3.89, and I was wondering if there was I > way could post to a newsgroup. Any help would be > greatly appreciated.. No, posting was not part of 3.89. You'll have to upgrade to 3.90 for that feature. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 21:25:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29501; Sat, 3 Sep 94 21:25:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21124; Sat, 3 Sep 94 21:14:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21118; Sat, 3 Sep 94 21:14:22 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:11:49 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 12:11:48 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 3 Sep 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > Use > > pine -f "*{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" > > > > FYI: > > That command did not lead in an open folder related to > "comp.mail.pine" !!! Pine actually did open it but I could > not *see* it. > > > Therefor, I used 'g' and gave the following address and > then it opened it up: > *{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine > > So, what's the point of that command line > if you have to retype the newsgroup-folder name? FYI.... It *works* as advertised for me. You did type: pine -f "*{foo.bar.com/nntp}comp.mail.pine" and not literally pine -f "*{newserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" ??? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Sep 3 23:57:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01816; Sat, 3 Sep 94 23:57:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25709; Sat, 3 Sep 94 23:49:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@SIVM.SI.EDU:stoneji@scan.si.edu> Received: from SIVM.SI.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25703; Sat, 3 Sep 94 23:49:54 -0700 Received: from scan.si.edu by SIVM.SI.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 04 Sep 94 02:48:53 EDT Received: by scan.si.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA03766; Sun, 4 Sep 94 02:45:17 -0400 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 02:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Stone To: Pine-Info List Subject: user-domain Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have discovered that (on this system, at least) if the "user-domain" is set to my system's host name in pine.conf, pine.conf.fixed, or .pinerc, PINE does not assign the correct domain name to local addresses that are not in the address books. If "user-domain" is not set, everything is fine, though. My user-domain was set in pine.conf.fixed to "scan.si.edu" (the system's full name). When I addressed mail to the account "test", which is not in any of my address books, but is an account on the system, the composer translated it as "test.si.edu". (I also tried using "si.edu" as the domain name, and got the exact same result.) The mail bounced. Setting "user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch" solved this problem. Unsetting user-domain did as well. I'm glad that the solution was so simple, but I don't understand why PINE behaved as it did when the user-domain variable had been set to what should be the correct value. This should not constitute a "domain mismatch", should it? Or am I missing something? It seems to me that this anomaly could cause problems on many systems. If the user-domain variable should be left blank in a plain-vanilla setup like mine, shouldn't this be made clear in the help text? I'm running PINE 3.90 under DYNIX/ptx 1.3.1 and ptx/TCP/IP 2.2.4. (The PINE distribution doesn't include the complete port for PTX 1.x, but it's not especially difficult to fix.) jim -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 02:52:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05358; Sun, 4 Sep 94 02:52:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24900; Sun, 4 Sep 94 02:47:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24894; Sun, 4 Sep 94 02:47:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhDpP-00000QC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chale@teleport.com (Chris Hale) Subject: PGP and Pine Date: 4 Sep 1994 02:22:54 -0700 Message-Id: <34c3le$680@elaine.teleport.com> Does anyone here have any scripts to simplify using PGP with pine. (pine 3.9 on sun os ver 4) All of the scripts I've found so far, work only with elm and emacs. If someone knows how to redirect the sent messages to an alternate mailer, (other than sendmail) that would work also. Thanks in advance. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ chale@teleport.com | "The light at the end of the tunnel -- pgp 2.6 public key available --| is the headlamp of an oncoming train" -- by finger --| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 06:29:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09584; Sun, 4 Sep 94 06:29:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00385; Sun, 4 Sep 94 06:19:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00379; Sun, 4 Sep 94 06:19:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 09:18:43 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: File attachments - tiff Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to attach a tiff file like a fax and then be able to view it via pine? thanks in advance. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 09:13:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12408; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:13:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02230; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:07:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02218; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:07:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhJox-00000QC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: axa12@po.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: pine user-domain setting Date: 4 Sep 1994 15:48:58 GMT Message-Id: <34cq9a$pkq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: In a previous article, boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (Jim Boyer) says: >I am running a DEC 3000-600 with OSF/1 v. 2.0. I have installed PINE >3.90 and really like it. However, I ran into an interesting situation in >using the user-domain setting in the .pinerc or pine.conf files. When I >set the user-domain to my full address coopext.cahe.wsu.edu, in either >file, pine would strip off the hostname when I sent to a local id on the >system. For example, if I sent it to me, > >TO: boyerj > >it would add the address > >boyerj@cahe.wsu.edu > >When user-domain was not set in both the .pinerc and pine.conf files the >correct address would appear > >boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu > >Am I reading the purpose of user-domain wrong? I thought it would use >the user-domain on local addresses? I also noticed the same problem (as I am sure several others have). The trick is to set "use-only-domain-name" to be "Yes", and then set "user-domain" to be "hostname-domain" (eg. coopext.cahe.wsu.edu). This seems to work for me. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar tel: (216) 368-3300 Department of Biochemistry fax: (216) 368-4544 CWRU School of Medicine ashok@mirage.bioc.cwru.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 09:48:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12936; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29698; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:42:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29689; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:42:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhKK2-00000PC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rafi@tavor.openu.ac.il (Rafi Sadowsky) Subject: Re: Incompatibility with 3.89 Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:27:35 GMT Ran Ever-Hadani (raan@netcom.com) wrote: : The pine patch for hebrew e-mail (known also as pineh) is still in : 3.89, and hence I find myself using two versions of pine: 3.90 for : non-Hebrew, and (a patch of) 3.89 for composing Hebrew messages. try using the pico from pine 3.89heb as your alternate header (I call it "hpico") this works for me # Editor to use in place of Pine's internal composer, Pico editor=hpico -h -t then just press ¬_ (CTRL-_) in the message body to compose a hebrew message Rafi -- Rafi Sadowsky rafi@tavor.openu.ac.il Ýpostmaster@openu.ac.il¨ FAX: +972-3-6460483 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 10:28:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13546; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:28:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03011; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:22:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03005; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:22:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhKxB-00000QC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:38:55 GMT References: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> <9408311337.AA09319@nada.kth.se> <34b1u6$gmn@trane.uninett.no> >From: jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) >Peter Svanberg (psv@nada.kth.se) wrote: >: Quoting: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) >: > >: > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard >: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >: > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? >: No and yes... We have almost the same problem, and I am >: working on a patch for it. >: --- >: Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se >: Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 >: S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 >This problem is probably common to most European sites using Pine. >Pine 3.90 is indeed a wonderful mail-program, and in fact the only feature >we are missing is the ability to switch quoted-printable on/off. At least >in the Nordic countries many sites are using MTAs that are capable of >handling 8bit coded mail. Turning QP off will then be quite safe. >I hope the Pine development team will consider this as a future >enhancement. Me too. We have QP problem too here in Taiwan with Chinese using BIG5. I have to modify the source code by myself to disable the qp-filter, otherwise the recipients who have no Pine could not see my chinese mail but a lot of "strange" codes instead. >Meanwhile, I hope Peter Svanberg will share his patch with us, giving >notification to this newsgroup. I have modified the source code to disable the qp-filter with a little change and worked fine for me. At line 3804 of file send.c under the pine directory, comment out the filter: /* gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); */ and at line 3860 of the same file above, replace the "ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE" with "ENC8BIT". I have no any side effect so far. If there was, please let me know. _____ _____ _____ ____ _____ | \| _ \ Ming-Yen Hsu, Database Lab. NCU Taiwan ROC | \/ \| | | | | | _ < Computer Science & Information Engineering | | | <--<| | | |_____/|_____/ Electronic Mail : myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw |__|__/\____/\_____| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 10:49:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13877; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:49:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00430; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:42:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00424; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:42:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhLFu-00000aC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 10:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: File attachments - tiff Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 10:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I have never done so personally, but it should work, assuming you have your .mailcap configured properly (Pine 3.90 or higher). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Steven E. Frazier wrote: > > > > Is it possible to attach a tiff file like a fax and then be able to view > it via pine? > > thanks in advance. > > Steve > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 12:10:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15134; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:10:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04159; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04153; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:02:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhMWE-00000ZC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: perlman@sci-ed.fit.edu (Marshal Perlman [ARCS]) Subject: NO PINE < FILE Message-Id: Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 18:01:58 GMT Any reason pine doesn't let us REDIRECT yet? -- Marshal Perlman Internet/MIME: perlman@fit.edu Academic and Research Computing Services IRC: Squawk Florida Institute of Technology FAA: Commercial/Instrument/ASEL/AMEL Melbourne, Florida 32901-6988 Member: AOPA/AAAE/Goodyear Blimp Club Pager: 407/455-4809 URL: http://sci-ed.fit.edu/~perlman ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Every year over 5 zillion bicycles are stolen... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 12:49:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15778; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:49:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01707; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:45:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01701; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:45:17 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16593; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:45:14 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 12:45:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: perlman@sci-ed.fit.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NO PINE < FILE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Sep 1994 perlman@sci-ed.fit.edu wrote: > Any reason pine doesn't let us REDIRECT yet? Sure... It's because there are "over 5 zillion" things on the Pine todo list, and that one hasn't quite bubbled to the top yet... -teg > Marshal Perlman Internet/MIME: perlman@fit.edu > Academic and Research Computing Services IRC: Squawk > Florida Institute of Technology FAA: Commercial/Instrument/ASEL/AMEL > Melbourne, Florida 32901-6988 Member: AOPA/AAAE/Goodyear Blimp Club > Pager: 407/455-4809 URL: http://sci-ed.fit.edu/~perlman > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Every year over 5 zillion bicycles are stolen... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 12:51:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15836; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:51:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01729; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:46:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gaia.sci-ed.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01723; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:46:48 -0700 Received: by sci-ed.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA22002; Sun, 4 Sep 94 15:50:40 EDT Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:50:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Marshal Perlman To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: NO PINE < FILE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Sure... It's because there are "over 5 zillion" things on the Pine todo > list, and that one hasn't quite bubbled to the top yet... Well, I got what I wanted, a good answer. Thanks. ======= Marshal Perlman Internet/MIME: perlman@fit.edu Academic and Research Computing Services IRC: Squawk Florida Institute of Technology FAA: Commercial/Instrument/ASEL/AMEL Melbourne, Florida 32901-6988 Member: AOPA/AAAE/Goodyear Blimp Club Pager: 407/455-4809 URL: http://sci-ed.fit.edu/~perlman ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Every year over 5 zillion bicycles are stolen... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 12:55:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15903; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:55:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01760; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:49:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01754; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:49:34 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16663; Sun, 4 Sep 94 12:49:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 12:49:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ashok Aiyar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine user-domain setting In-Reply-To: <34cq9a$pkq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Even though I can't reproduce it on our system, it sounds like you guys have found a bug in 3.90... It should not be necessary to set "use-only-domain-name" if you have already set "user-domain". We'll look into it further... -teg On 4 Sep 1994, Ashok Aiyar wrote: > > In a previous article, boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (Jim Boyer) says: > > >I am running a DEC 3000-600 with OSF/1 v. 2.0. I have installed PINE > >3.90 and really like it. However, I ran into an interesting situation in > >using the user-domain setting in the .pinerc or pine.conf files. When I > >set the user-domain to my full address coopext.cahe.wsu.edu, in either > >file, pine would strip off the hostname when I sent to a local id on the > >system. For example, if I sent it to me, > > > >TO: boyerj > > > >it would add the address > > > >boyerj@cahe.wsu.edu > > > >When user-domain was not set in both the .pinerc and pine.conf files the > >correct address would appear > > > >boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu > > > >Am I reading the purpose of user-domain wrong? I thought it would use > >the user-domain on local addresses? > > I also noticed the same problem (as I am sure several others have). The > trick is to set "use-only-domain-name" to be "Yes", and then set > "user-domain" to be "hostname-domain" (eg. coopext.cahe.wsu.edu). > > This seems to work for me. > > Later, > Ashok > -- > Ashok Aiyar tel: (216) 368-3300 > Department of Biochemistry fax: (216) 368-4544 > CWRU School of Medicine ashok@mirage.bioc.cwru.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 14:33:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17424; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:33:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02813; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02807; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:27:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhOmu-00000ZC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: readonly folder ? Date: 4 Sep 1994 18:02:02 -0300 Message-Id: What makes pine think a folder is readonly ? I've got a pile of messages to copy from one machine to another (from vms actually), i will move the files are root into a person's mail directory then change ownership and protections. But during testing, the files i've moved show up by the user as readonly folders. The data itself looks ok, the conversion program says that it conforms to the appropriate rfc and in fact it looks pretty good. I can't see anything that would cause the file to be readonly. The protections are set ok, and the user can delete the folder file, even berkley mail will delete the folder with no problem. i'm using pine 3.90 on aix 3.2.5 please mail directly as i don't often read this group. -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 14:47:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17681; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:47:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05951; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:38:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05945; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:37:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhOua-00000aC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ohr@actcom.co.il (Moshe Newman) Subject: Re: PC Pine Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 20:58:06 GMT Message-Id: References: <33qi19$g8k@hollywood.cinenet.net> Can somebody recommend a good DOS or Windows application that will do offline support? Anything available thru ftp? Thanks David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: :> Offline support is planned for a future release, but it is not yet :> available... :> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 :> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) :> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 :> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA :> On 28 Aug 1994, Don Long wrote: :> > I get to Internet through a server that has Pine (along with Pico) I find :> > it excellent. However, I can only use it while on-line to my server. It's :> > a free phone call, and a flat rate, but it does tie up the phone. Can I :> > load Pine on m,y PC at home and do all my reading and composing off-line? :> > :> > -- :> > Don Long AKA Red Bear redbear@cinenet.net :> > UCLA staff sans privileges Compuserve 74203,2601 :> > :> > "The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; :> > the point is to change it" :> > Karl Marx :> > :> > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 14:59:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17865; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06086; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:50:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from fornax.unm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06080; Sun, 4 Sep 94 14:50:03 -0700 Received: by fornax.unm.edu (5.65/ha ha) id AA29922; Sun, 4 Sep 94 15:49:52 -0600 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 15:49:51 -0600 (MDT) From: Farid Hamjavar To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 12:11:48 -0800 (GMT) > From: Ed Greshko > To: Farid Hamjavar > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news > > On Sat, 3 Sep 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > > > Use > > > pine -f "*{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" > > > > > > > > FYI: > > > > That command did not lead in an open folder related to > > "comp.mail.pine" !!! Pine actually did open it but I could > > not *see* it. > > > > > > Therefor, I used 'g' and gave the following address and > > then it opened it up: > > *{newsserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine > > > > So, what's the point of that command line > > if you have to retype the newsgroup-folder name? > > FYI.... > > It *works* as advertised for me. > > You did type: > > pine -f "*{foo.bar.com/nntp}comp.mail.pine" > > and not literally > > pine -f "*{newserver/nntp}comp.mail.pine" ??? --------------------------------------------------------- Thanks for reply... I typed: pine -f "*{news.unm.edu/nntp}comp.mail.pine" Then I saw: Opening "*{news.unm.edu/nntp}comp.mail.pine".. Then I saw this menu: PINE 3.90 MAIN MENU Folder: news.unm.edu/nntp}comp.mail.pine 18 Messages ? HELP - Get help using Pine C COMPOSE MESSAGE - Compose and send/post a message I FOLDER INDEX - View messages in current folder L FOLDER LIST - Select a folder OR news group to view A ADDRESS BOOK - Update address book S SETUP - Configure or update Pine Q QUIT - Exit the Pine program Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington. [News group "*{news.unm.edu/nntp}comp.mail.pine" opened with 18 messages] ? Help P PrevCmd R RelNotes O OTHER CMDS L [ListFldrs] N NextCmd K KBLock But what would one do from here? The "L" line is high-lighted and when selected, it'll just open up the INBOX. Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 16:41:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19516; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:41:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04216; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:35:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04210; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:35:21 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:32:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 07:32:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and reading news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > Then I saw this menu: > > PINE 3.90 MAIN MENU Folder: news.unm.edu/nntp}comp.mail.pine 18 Messages > > > ? HELP - Get help using Pine > > C COMPOSE MESSAGE - Compose and send/post a message > > I FOLDER INDEX - View messages in current folder > > L FOLDER LIST - Select a folder OR news group to view > > A ADDRESS BOOK - Update address book > > S SETUP - Configure or update Pine > > Q QUIT - Exit the Pine program > > > > But what would one do from here? Type "i". This will bring you to the "Index" and you can " View messages in current folder". As an alternative you could include the -i switch in your command line and it would bring you directly to the index. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 16:43:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19564; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:43:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04260; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:38:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04254; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:38:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhQqe-00000ZC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 16:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evs1@cornell.edu (Erik Schwiebert) Subject: Re: Specifying INBOX dynamically in PCPINE Date: Sun, 04 Sep 1994 19:19:31 -0400 Message-Id: References: In article , riki@Hawaii.Edu (Riki Kurihara) wrote: > Is there a way that I can specify the INBOX in PC-PINE dynamically? For > instance, I'd like to keep a bunch of PC's in the open lab where students can > go and access their e-mail through PC-Pine and a IMAP server. Since we keep > new mail in $HOME/Inbox is it possible for me to do... > > inbox-path={mailserver}$HOME/Inbox > > so that each individual won't have to manually specify the inbox path? I've > looked through the docs but it's very limited for the PC-NFS version. if this IS possible, is it also possible to do it with a POP3 server? my roommate is running Linux on his pc and wants to use Pine to read mail that comes into hsi account on Cornell's popmail server... thanx, erik -- Erik Schwiebert Mail: evs1@cornell.edu General Net Addict Finger: erik@schwieb.resnet.cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 17:58:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20828; Sun, 4 Sep 94 17:58:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08204; Sun, 4 Sep 94 17:53:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08196; Sun, 4 Sep 94 17:53:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhRye-00000ZC; Sun, 4 Sep 94 17:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tannerc@cu18.crl.aecl.ca (Chris Tanner) Subject: Compiling pine 3.90 on SGI (IRIS vs 5.1) Message-Id: <1994Sep5.002758.19487@cu23.crl.aecl.ca> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 00:27:58 GMT Hi I am trying to compile pine vs 3.9 on an SGI system (Iris vs 5.1) with little success. I tried both build sgi and build sv4. Has anybody done this, and if so, what is needed? Thanks Chris -- Chris Tanner Email: tannerc@CU18.CRL.AECL.CA AECL Research Phone: (613) 584-3311 X4053 Chalk River, Ont. FAX: (613) 584-1082 Canada, K0J 1J0 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 18:39:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21603; Sun, 4 Sep 94 18:39:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08708; Sun, 4 Sep 94 18:33:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08702; Sun, 4 Sep 94 18:33:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22579; Sun, 4 Sep 94 18:33:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 18:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Riki Kurihara , Erik Schwiebert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Specifying INBOX dynamically in PCPINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Erik Schwiebert wrote: > In article , riki@Hawaii.Edu (Riki Kurihara) wrote: > > > Is there a way that I can specify the INBOX in PC-PINE dynamically? For > > instance, I'd like to keep a bunch of PC's in the open lab where students can > > go and access their e-mail through PC-Pine and a IMAP server. Since we keep > > new mail in $HOME/Inbox is it possible for me to do... > > > > inbox-path={mailserver}$HOME/Inbox > > > > so that each individual won't have to manually specify the inbox path? I've > > looked through the docs but it's very limited for the PC-NFS version. Riki, It depends on the IMAP server, but try the following: inbox-path={mailserver}~/Inbox > if this IS possible, is it also possible to do it with a POP3 server? my > roommate is running Linux on his pc and wants to use Pine to read mail > that comes into hsi account on Cornell's popmail server... Erik, Pine does not yet directly support the "offline" mail processing model (using either POP or IMAP), however, there is software available for Unix that can make any mailer a POP client. See the message below. -teg -------------------------- Date: 30 Aug 94 12:21:57 From: Tim Norman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.help, comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: Pop mail prog In article <33uuhn$be@clarknet.clark.net> jamesnor@clark.net (James Norton) writes: Rob Kooper (afsta014@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL) wrote: : Hi, : Does anybody out there know of a good pop mail reader under Linux, : or any other brand of Unix as long as it is share/free ware. There is currently a program called popclient in the sunsite.unc.edu/pub/ Linux/Incoming directory. It is not a mail reader. It retrieves the mail using POP2 or POP3. You can then use pine or elm to read the mail. Well, at least it's not there now. Try sunsite.unc.edu//pub/Linux/system/ Network/sunacm/Other/popclient/pop3-miniclient.tar.gz Phew! Long name :-) Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 20:22:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23159; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:22:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09856; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:11:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09850; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:11:57 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA155574929; Sun, 4 Sep 1994 22:15:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 22:15:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: pine 3.90 on Hpux 9.0 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine 3.90, after displaying a full screen of the index of the current inbox folder, the vt100 terminal display beeps, and displays in quick succession "Command "^S" is not defined here", and then "Command "^Q" is not defined here". This occurs on practically all screen rewrites, at least from the index display of the inbox. In fact in the setup, configuration section things become unmanageable because of the frequency of undefined keystrokes being received...though these keystrokes are not originating on my keyboard. Dan PS I am running a terminal session at 2400 bd to an HPUX 9.0 mail server using Procomm's vt100 terminal. -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 21:04:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23865; Sun, 4 Sep 94 21:04:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07164; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07158; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:57:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25005; Sun, 4 Sep 94 20:57:46 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Sep 1994 20:57:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Dan Mandell Cc: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: Re: XON-XOFF handling (was: pine 3.90 on Hpux 9.0) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dan, Here's the scoop: We got tired of getting bug reports of the form "Pine just froze up", so we changed 3.90 so that it would trap XOFF/XON characters, rather than having XOFF silently cause everything stop working. Unfortunately, on systems that rely on software flow-control, this results in the symptoms you described. In the upcoming 3.91 maintenance release this will be a configuration option. Until then, Mike S. advises that deleting the two lines _raw_tchars.t_startc = -1; /* Turn off ^S/^Q */ _raw_tchars.t_stopc = -1; from around line 244 in pine/ttyin.c will make Pine 3.90 behave like previous versions. -teg p.s. we believe that this change also accounts for *some* of the problems folks have reported with printing in 3.90 --however, PC comm server software limitations and printer mis-configuration problems still account for most Pine printing problems. On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Dan Mandell wrote: > Pine 3.90, after displaying a full screen of the index of the current > inbox folder, the vt100 terminal display beeps, and displays in quick > succession "Command "^S" is not defined here", and then "Command "^Q" is > not defined here". This occurs on practically all screen rewrites, at > least from the index display of the inbox. In fact in the setup, > configuration section things become unmanageable because of the frequency > of undefined keystrokes being received...though these keystrokes are not > originating on my keyboard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Sep 4 22:41:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25593; Sun, 4 Sep 94 22:41:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11511; Sun, 4 Sep 94 22:36:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@SIVM.SI.EDU:stoneji@scan.si.edu> Received: from SIVM.SI.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11505; Sun, 4 Sep 94 22:36:10 -0700 Received: from scan.si.edu by SIVM.SI.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 05 Sep 94 01:35:09 EDT Received: by scan.si.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA08756; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:31:15 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 01:31:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Stone To: Pine-Info List Subject: PINE 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Already working on a maintenance release for PINE 3.9x? Now that's what I call SERVICE! Any idea when it might come out and what's scheduled for inclusion (other than the XON/XOFF fix)? Any chance that the user-domain issues will be cleared up? jim -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 00:29:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27212; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:29:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09452; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:23:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09446; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:23:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhY6k-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen) Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Date: 5 Sep 1994 07:03:56 GMT Message-Id: <34efss$ssj@due.uninett.no> References: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> <9408311337.AA09319@nada.kth.se> <34b1u6$gmn@trane.uninett.no> In article , myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) writes: >>From: jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) >>Peter Svanberg (psv@nada.kth.se) wrote: >>: Quoting: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) >>: > >>: > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard >>: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>: > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? > >>: No and yes... We have almost the same problem, and I am >>: working on a patch for it. >>: --- >>: Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se >>: Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 >>: S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 > >>This problem is probably common to most European sites using Pine. >>Pine 3.90 is indeed a wonderful mail-program, and in fact the only feature >>we are missing is the ability to switch quoted-printable on/off. At least >>in the Nordic countries many sites are using MTAs that are capable of >>handling 8bit coded mail. Turning QP off will then be quite safe. > >>I hope the Pine development team will consider this as a future >>enhancement. > >Me too. We have QP problem too here in Taiwan with Chinese using BIG5. I >have to modify the source code by myself to disable the qp-filter, otherwise >the recipients who have no Pine could not see my chinese mail but a lot of >"strange" codes instead. > >>Meanwhile, I hope Peter Svanberg will share his patch with us, giving >>notification to this newsgroup. > >I have modified the source code to disable the qp-filter with a little change >and worked fine for me. > >At line 3804 of file send.c under the pine directory, comment out the filter: > /* gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); */ >and at line 3860 of the same file above, replace the "ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE" with >"ENC8BIT". > >I have no any side effect so far. If there was, please let me know. > _____ _____ _____ ____ _____ >| \| _ \ Ming-Yen Hsu, Database Lab. NCU Taiwan ROC | \/ \| | | >| | | _ < Computer Science & Information Engineering | | | <--<| | | >|_____/|_____/ Electronic Mail : myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw |__|__/\____/\_____| > This was nice! It works fine here, but there is yet another irritating (mis)feature: If the first few characters in a document are 8bit, then the whole document is encoded as BASE64, which is even less readable than qp :-( Any fixes? -psi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 01:25:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28685; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:25:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10237; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:19:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10231; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:19:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhYv3-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike O'Connor Subject: Re: How to alter header with ! pine 3.07 Date: 3 Sep 1994 00:30:51 -0400 Message-Id: <348u5r$i2t$1@garnet.msen.com> References: <343cqt$47mf@lamar.ColoState.EDU> In article , David L Miller wrote: :Actually, configurable headers were added in Pine 3.90... Why is it that the "From:" line can't be tweaked with 3.90, at least not with the 3.90 binaries on ftp.cac.washington.edu (I could hack the source, certainly)? I'd think that anyone who consciously added a "From:" line to customize-hdrs in their .pinerc would probably have a good reason, and it's not like people couldn't corrupt their headers easily enough by munging user-domain. Pine isn't like some of the obnoxious Mac and PC software "out there" which provides a "From:" line just to cause confusion. ...Mike -- Mike O'Connor, mjo@msen.com http://www.msen.com/~mjo/ "The part I think I'd like best is crushing people who get in my way." -Calvin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 01:26:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28708; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:26:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13506; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:18:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13499; Mon, 5 Sep 94 01:18:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhYuz-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 00:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wu2@crash.cts.com (David DiGioia) Subject: pine 3.0 performance Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 06:26:34 GMT Message-Id: I really like the new features, but am I the only one who finds the performance noticeably slower thant 3.89? The "interactive response" is what is bugging me. My config. is SparcStations 1, monochrome screen, 16MB RAM. Thanks in advance for any performance tuning hints. ...David .. David Di Gioia | wu2@cts.com .. Stout were the words he spoke to his men: .. 'Heart must be braver, courage the bolder, .. Mood the stouter as our strength grows less!' .. Byrhtwold, in "The Battle of Maldon" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 02:31:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29993; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:31:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14259; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14253; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:26:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qha2R-00000jC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robbee@crl.com (Rob Bidleman) Subject: .sig, .sig, .sig Date: 5 Sep 1994 02:00:07 -0700 Message-Id: <34emmn$1dt@crl3.crl.com> I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my .sig to get added at the END of my replies. Rob ps it works in tin but not in regular mail. -- ---------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===---- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 03:03:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00699; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:03:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14637; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14631; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:57:22 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:54:52 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 17:54:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Rob Bidleman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig In-Reply-To: <34emmn$1dt@crl3.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Sep 1994, Rob Bidleman wrote: Well....it works for me. (as you can see...) In the feature list...are you "sure" you have: [X] signature-at-bottom Ed > I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my > .sig to get added at the END of my replies. > > Rob > > ps it works in tin but not in regular mail. > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------===robbee@crl.com===---- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 03:03:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00717; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:03:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11309; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:56:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11297; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:56:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhaXh-00000cC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc_s551@kingston.ac.uk (Robert Bannocks) Subject: Re: Has any one set up Pine with MMDF mailboxes Date: 5 Sep 1994 09:37:33 GMT Message-Id: <34eost$seo@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> References: <342drf$dir@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> <344k2f$o9a@mercury.kingston.ac.uk> I have pine 3.90 now but I would appreciate some help. I would like to make pine avaliable to my users, however we have mmdf style mail boxes here, and I don't want users saving mail in folders in mbox format, or any of the other formats pine can handle. Is it possible to configure pine to save mail in mmdf style format and no other ? I would be nice if it could read in any format but only save in mmdf style but if pine could only read mmdf style that would'nt be a problem. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 03:19:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01135; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:19:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14854; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14848; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:11:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhaiu-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 02:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roberto@ee.uwa.edu.au (Roberto Togneri) Subject: Append validity confusion Bug in PINE 3.90 Date: 5 Sep 1994 09:21:07 GMT Message-Id: <34enu3$nf@styx.uwa.edu.au> Bug report for PINE 3.90 System: DOS 5.0, PC-NFS 5.0, PC-NFS Pine 3.90 Symptom1: Pine crashes when attempting to save in "sentmail" (with outgoing mail) and "savemail" in \MAIL area with 'Append validity confusion' Bug report. The file "sentmail" is created (even though this should be "sentmail.mtx") but Pine crashes. If outgoing mail is not saved there is no problem (unless you attempt to save mail to "savemail"). Symptom2: Once "sentmail" is created Pine complains it can't save outgoing mail to folder "sentmail" because it exists. Symptom3: The "sentmail" folder is not listed when listing folders. Comment1: No such problem existed with PC-PINE 3.89. Neither does there seem to be any problems with the UNIX version of Pine 3.90. I'll test this is out a bit more thoroughly but maybe somebody knows of an obvious environment/configuration setting that must be made. Thanks, -- Dr. Roberto Togneri Phone: +61-9-380-2535 _--_|\ Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems / \ Dept. of Electrical & Electronic Engineering *_.--._/ The University of Western Australia Fax: +61-9-380-1101 v NEDLANDS WA 6009 Australia Email: roberto@ee.uwa.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 03:26:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01307; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:26:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11635; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:21:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11629; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:21:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhau3-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 03:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nerz@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de (Joachim Nerz) Subject: Re: PC Pine Date: 5 Sep 1994 09:55:02 GMT Message-Id: <34eptm$cq7@darum.uni-mannheim.de> References: <33qi19$g8k@hollywood.cinenet.net> I use Yarn, you can find it on any SimTel Mirror in the directory `offline` It does News and Mail offline. On your Unix Host you'll need uqwk, a little programm that collects your news and mail and will also post the Files that YARN generates. YARN and uqwk work with the SOUP format. See also the alt.usenet.offline-reader FAQ. bye Joachim Moshe Newman (ohr@actcom.co.il) wrote: : Can somebody recommend a good DOS or Windows application that will do : offline support? Anything available thru ftp? : Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 05:02:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03737; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:02:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16259; Mon, 5 Sep 94 04:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16253; Mon, 5 Sep 94 04:54:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhcHJ-00000bC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iancu@iil.intel.com (Iancu Igal) Subject: SVR4/Unixware ports Date: 5 Sep 1994 11:27:00 GMT Message-Id: <34eva4INN15v5@ilx018.iil.intel.com> Hi, has anyone compiled Pine 3.90 for Unixware and/or NCR SVR4? I was able to compile for NCR, but cannot get "folder listing" correctly and Pine does not identify any of the folders in mail/[]. Thanks in advance, -- -- Igal Iancu IDC/CBS System Engineering Intel Israel (74), Ltd. POB 1659 Haifa 31015, Israel iancu@iil.intel.com Tel: 972-4-655869 Fax: 972-4-655999 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 05:29:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04252; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:29:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13248; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:24:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13242; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:24:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhckx-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chermesh@bgumail.bgu.ac.il (Ran Chermesh) Subject: Can't access cac for update Message-Id: <34evkc$1q1@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> Date: 5 Sep 1994 13:32:28 +0200 Hi, I tried to use the setup option on the main menu of my pine in order to upgrade my pine to version 3.90. For some reason, the response I get is a request for my login and password, which, expectedly, fail. What's wrong? Ran -- () Ran Chermesh Behavioral Sciences Dept. Ben-Gurion University () ()==) Beer-Sheva Israel (==() () URL: gopher://gopher.bgu.ac.il:70/00/Ben/res/hum/beh/CHERMESH%2c%20RAN () From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 06:05:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04861; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:05:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17047; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:59:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17041; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:59:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhdK7-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alan Robiette Subject: Re: Abort problem in Solaris version Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 13:38:46 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There were postings about this bug over the last few days [sorry I have lost the thread]. It has to do with the Solaris version, in which Pine signals an abort when quitting with certain combinations of options set. We had this problem but have solved it by a recompilation. Our local Solaris guru, Rob McMahon, tells me it is caused by code which rewrites string constants, a practice which used to be OK but is no longer recommended. The work-round was to set the -fwritable-strings option for the Gnu C compiler (gcc), which makes gcc revert to the "traditional" behaviour in this respect. While I'm here, I'd like to add my compliments to all the others the Pine team are getting for the tremendous job they have done with the new features in 3.90. Many thanks! Alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alan G Robiette, Information Technology Office, Univ of Warwick, CV4 7AL, UK Phone +44-1203-524459; Fax +44-1203-461606; Email Alan.Robiette@warwick.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 06:19:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05067; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:19:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13781; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13775; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhdWu-00000hC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 05:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: Append/Overwrite confusion Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 12:49:14 GMT As comments are collected for Pine 3.91, please include this regret for the shift from 3.89's "file exists, append [y/n]" format to 3.90's admittedly more logical (but +much+ more dangerous) choice of A(ppend) or O(verwrite). At least, the O(verwrite) branch should require or optionally be configurable with a confirmation. Maybe it is confirgurable to require a confirmation. If so, +please+ let me know so I stop replacing yesterday's great stuff with today's trash :-(. Putnam Barber From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 06:39:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05371; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:39:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17429; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:34:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17423; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:34:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhdmU-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cudcv@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Rob McMahon) Subject: pine 3.90 and "magic cookies" terminals Date: 5 Sep 1994 14:08:11 +0100 Message-Id: <34f57r$9k2@sprocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone hacked up pine to use "magic cookie" terminals (i.e. terminals that use up a character position to change to/from highlight or underline mode) ? We have many such terminals round the University (mostly Televideo or Wyse, but some others too), and pine seems completely broken on them. Apologies if this is a "FAQ", it's the first time I've subscribed to this group. Cheers, Rob -- UUCP: ...!mcsun!uknet!warwick!cudcv PHONE: +44 203 523037 INET: cudcv@csv.warwick.ac.uk Rob McMahon, Computing Services, Warwick University, Coventry CV4 7AL, England From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 06:40:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05408; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:40:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13972; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:34:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13966; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhdqP-00000bC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: myhsu@db39.ee.ncu.edu.tw (Ming-Yen Hsu) Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 12:43:25 GMT References: <341h37$s77@serifos.Helsinki.FI> <9408311337.AA09319@nada.kth.se> <34b1u6$gmn@trane.uninett.no> <34efss$ssj@due.uninett.no> >From: iversen@dsfys1.fi.uib.no (Per Steinar Iversen) >>>From: jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) >>>Peter Svanberg (psv@nada.kth.se) wrote: >>>: Quoting: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) >>>: > >>>: > So, is there a simple way to switch QP off and get standard >>>: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>: > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>>: > messages? Or do I have to hack into the code to get this? >> >>>: No and yes... We have almost the same problem, and I am >>>: working on a patch for it. >>>: --- >>>: Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se >>>: Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 >>>: S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 >> >>>This problem is probably common to most European sites using Pine. >>>Pine 3.90 is indeed a wonderful mail-program, and in fact the only feature >>>we are missing is the ability to switch quoted-printable on/off. At least >>>in the Nordic countries many sites are using MTAs that are capable of >>>handling 8bit coded mail. Turning QP off will then be quite safe. >> >>>I hope the Pine development team will consider this as a future >>>enhancement. >>>Meanwhile, I hope Peter Svanberg will share his patch with us, giving >>>notification to this newsgroup. >> >>I have modified the source code to disable the qp-filter with a little change >>and worked fine for me. >> >>At line 3804 of file send.c under the pine directory, comment out the filter: >> /* gf_link_filter(gf_8bit_qp); */ >>and at line 3860 of the same file above, replace the "ENCQUOTEDPRINTABLE" with >>"ENC8BIT". >>I have no any side effect so far. If there was, please let me know. >This was nice! It works fine here, but there is yet another irritating >(mis)feature: If the first few characters in a document are 8bit, then the >whole document is encoded as BASE64, which is even less readable than qp :-( >Any fixes? >-psi Yes, I have also modified the send.c to disable ENC7BIT and ENCBINARY encoding in the body of mail and make sure the content-transfer-encoding is 8BIT. At line 3262 of file send.c, replace "new_encoding = ENC7BIT;" with "new_encoding = ENC8BIT;" At line 3288 of file send.c, replace "new_encoding = ENCBINARY;" with "new_encoding = ENC8BIT;" _____ _____ _____ ____ _____ | \| _ \ Ming-Yen Hsu, Database Lab. NCU Taiwan ROC | \/ \| | | | | | _ < Computer Science & Information Engineering | | | <--<| | | |_____/|_____/ Electronic Mail : myhsu@db.csie.ncu.edu.tw |__|__/\____/\_____| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 06:54:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05636; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:54:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17608; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:49:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17602; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhe8Z-00000fC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mayer@cnj.digex.net (Paul Mayerowitz]) Subject: PINE on HP 735 Workstation Date: 5 Sep 1994 13:09:47 GMT Message-Id: <34f5ar$37i@cnj.digex.net> We would like to run PINE on a HP 735 workstation running HP-UX version 9.04. Does anyone know where we can obtain a clean copy copy of the source code or a compiled version of the code? Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:05:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05834; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14249; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:00:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14243; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:00:29 -0700 Received: from vodka.wlo.dec.com by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com (5.65/10Aug94) id AA22584; Mon, 5 Sep 94 06:55:47 -0700 Received: by vodka.wlo.dec.com (5.61/1.34) id AA27951; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:53:48 +0100 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:53:47 +0000 (BST) From: Lager Lout To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SVR4/Unixware ports In-Reply-To: <34eva4INN15v5@ilx018.iil.intel.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Sep 1994, Iancu Igal wrote: > has anyone compiled Pine 3.90 for Unixware and/or NCR SVR4? I managed to get it working on Motorola SVR4.0 after some hacking (changing the definition of gettimeofday() helps a lot!) > I was able to compile for NCR, but cannot get "folder listing" correctly > and Pine does not identify any of the folders in mail/[]. this is because there are two directory access libraries which are subtly different. To get around this I used cc (_not_ /usr/ucb/cc) and defined dirent as being the preferred directory structure. After I recompiled it worked fine. Cheers, Chris. "If the world was an orange it would be like much too small, y'know?" - Neil'83 Chris Hedley email: cbh@vodka.wlo.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation ltd phone: +44 707 374325 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England fax: +44 707 374302 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:08:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05893; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:08:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17783; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:02:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ousrvr.oulu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17771; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:02:46 -0700 Received: from paju.oulu.fi by oulu.fi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08719; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:02:44 +0300 Received: by paju.oulu.fi (931110.SGI/930416.SGI.AUTO) for @ousrvr.oulu.fi:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA14016; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:02:42 +0300 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 17:02:37 +0200 From: Marko Hotti To: Pine-Info Mailing List Subject: Compatibility with other newsreaders Message-Id: Posting-Frequency: semi-irregularly X-Mailer: PINE 3.90 (August 28th 1994) X-Ircnick: TechMan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There have been lots of discussion about whether Pine should use header instead of QUOTED-PRINTABLE if chosen so. My opinion is that there *definitely _should_ be* a way to do this because now some newsreaders can't handle postings made by Pine v3.90. Here's an example: In the Nordic countries we quite commonly use 8-bit ISO-8859-1 character set and one of the most popular newsreaders is Tin v1.2 PL12. When posting Finnish/Swedish/German/French 8-bit text with Pine, it is quite impossible to read the messages using Tin or other more versatile newsreaders. The screen is full with =E4/=F6 etc. stuff and people are furious. So at least Tin and Pine 3.90 are *not* compatible with each other. I know there are problems with other newsreaders, too. I'm quite sure that people will not start using Pine for news posting _until_ someone fixes this problem - a problem which is reality in Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Germany, France and other countries using International character sets. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti University of Oulu Faculty of Medicine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:22:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06102; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17941; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:16:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17935; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:16:17 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05465; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:16:14 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 07:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jim Stone Cc: Pine-Info List Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Jim Stone wrote: > Already working on a maintenance release for PINE 3.9x? Now that's what > I call SERVICE! We try... :) > Any idea when it might come out Every time in my life that I've ever answered a question about software schedules I've lived to regret it, so let's just say "sooner rather than later". > and what's scheduled for inclusion (other than the XON/XOFF fix)? There's a bunch of reported problems already fixed, and another bunch that still need to be... things like not allowing colons in the custom header definitions, crashing when you reference a MIME External reference or attach a non-existent message to the bug report command... > Any chance that the user-domain issues will be cleared up? Yes, if we figure out what's broken in time (recall that it doesn't seem to be misbehaving on our development system.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:29:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06251; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:29:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18015; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:21:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18009; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:21:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05558; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:21:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 07:21:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mike O'Connor Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to alter header with ! pine 3.07 In-Reply-To: <348u5r$i2t$1@garnet.msen.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mike, In 3.90 there is a compile-time option to permit this. Letting everyone tweak their From: line is not enabled by default because, alas, not everyone has the same kind of clientele that you do (wherein anyone who modifies their From: line has a *good* reason...) -teg On 3 Sep 1994, Mike O'Connor wrote: > In article > , > David L Miller wrote: > > :Actually, configurable headers were added in Pine 3.90... > > Why is it that the "From:" line can't be tweaked with 3.90, at least > not with the 3.90 binaries on ftp.cac.washington.edu (I could hack the > source, certainly)? I'd think that anyone who consciously added a > "From:" line to customize-hdrs in their .pinerc would probably have a > good reason, and it's not like people couldn't corrupt their headers > easily enough by munging user-domain. Pine isn't like some of the > obnoxious Mac and PC software "out there" which provides a "From:" > line just to cause confusion. > > ...Mike > > -- > Mike O'Connor, mjo@msen.com > http://www.msen.com/~mjo/ > > "The part I think I'd like best is crushing people who get in my way." -Calvin > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:29:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06271; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:29:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14510; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:23:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14504; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:23:56 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05603; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:23:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 07:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David DiGioia Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.0 performance In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Could you be more specific? Based on reports from others, a performance bug related to marking messages Deleted has been found and fixed, but we'll need much more specific data from you in order to try to help... -teg On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, David DiGioia wrote: > I really like the new features, but am I the only one who finds the > performance noticeably slower thant 3.89? The "interactive response" > is what is bugging me. > > My config. is SparcStations 1, monochrome screen, 16MB RAM. > > Thanks in advance for any performance tuning hints. > > ...David > > .. David Di Gioia | wu2@cts.com > .. Stout were the words he spoke to his men: > .. 'Heart must be braver, courage the bolder, > .. Mood the stouter as our strength grows less!' > .. Byrhtwold, in "The Battle of Maldon" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:46:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06612; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:46:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18212; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:38:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18206; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:38:39 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05850; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:38:24 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 07:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ran Chermesh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can't access pine.cac for update In-Reply-To: <34evkc$1q1@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ooops... The problem is at our end. I'll post another msg when it's fixed. -teg On 5 Sep 1994, Ran Chermesh wrote: > > Hi, > I tried to use the setup option on the main menu of my pine in order to > upgrade my pine to version 3.90. For some reason, the response I get is a > request for my login and password, which, expectedly, fail. > What's wrong? > > Ran > -- > () Ran Chermesh Behavioral Sciences Dept. Ben-Gurion University () > ()==) Beer-Sheva Israel (==() > () URL: gopher://gopher.bgu.ac.il:70/00/Ben/res/hum/beh/CHERMESH%2c%20RAN () > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 07:56:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06744; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:56:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14777; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14770; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:49:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhf1v-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 07:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mawa@sun9.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Walter) Subject: pinef 3.90 and terminfo Date: 5 Sep 1994 13:39:19 GMT Message-Id: <34f727$46s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> How can I get pine 3.90 to look into terminfo for function key definitions? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Martin Walter | mawa@uni-freiburg.de | Disclaimer: All above | | Hermann-Herder-Str.10 | University CC | is my opinion unless | | D-79104 Freiburg | +49 761 203 4651 | specified otherwise. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 09:08:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08171; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:08:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19175; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:02:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19169; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:02:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhgCH-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 08:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ceisen@travel2.com (Clive Eisen) Subject: Pre-Authentication Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 14:18:02 GMT Message-Id: Just got and compiled pine for sco. very impressive software. I am trying to get pre-authentication going ( between sco machines ). I guess I am being dim because I can't see how to do it. Anyone want to explain in simple terms what I should do? Thanks for yor time. -- Clive Eisen email ceisen@travel2.com voice (+44) 831 522 180 ceisen@deepthwt.demon.co.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 09:44:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08784; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:44:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16043; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:32:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16037; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:32:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhgf1-00000bC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 09:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guitar@cloud9.net (Dempeel) Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig Date: 5 Sep 1994 16:14:42 GMT Message-Id: <34fg65$ooh@news.cloud9.net> References: <34emmn$1dt@crl3.crl.com> Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: : I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my : .sig to get added at the END of my replies. It could be the signature file. Try it with ".signature" instead of just ".sig". Also, you can manually add your signature at the end of the mail by control-r and then typin the signature file. Hope this helps. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Jake Kim guitar@cloud9.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 10:25:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09516; Mon, 5 Sep 94 10:25:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20258; Mon, 5 Sep 94 10:18:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20252; Mon, 5 Sep 94 10:18:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhhPL-00000fC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 10:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: References: <33bk6r$b6m@xcalibur.IntNet.net> Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 16:46:20 GMT Hi, I use a feature of elm called filter and it works great. It filters all my incoming mail, and can forward selected mail items also! But I use Pine to read my mail. Once filter is setup, it is all invisible and works great. email me if you want more info, or tell me if there is some problem with filter that I don't know of, and that procmail solves. kevin Marcos Rubinstein (pucho@netcom.com) wrote: : Yes, as an end user of pine, with limmited knowledge of Unix, I will love : ONE program that would let me do all of my mail houskeeping. : But, alas, I can understand the point raised by those who consider pine an : inapropiate (and inefective) way to filter mail. : What we need is somebody that will take procmail and make it as user : friendly as pine is... : ?some unix guru listening out there? : Shalom ve Tzedek : Pucho (aka marcos) pucho@netcom.com -- Kevin Internet: kjs@computer.com San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 11:25:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10606; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:25:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17254; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:17:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17247; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:17:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhiLg-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Sort Folder order Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 16:54:53 GMT I understand in Pine how to sort the _message_ index within a folder. but what I want to do is sort the _folder_ index itself, and I can't see how to do that. Can someone explain it to me? thanks, kevin -- Kevin Internet: kjs@computer.com San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 11:29:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10704; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:29:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21088; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:23:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21082; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:23:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhiRL-00000ZC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 11:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbcsc025@huey.csun.edu (louie soriano) Subject: How do you... Date: 5 Sep 1994 18:05:26 GMT Message-Id: <34fml6$k7k@nic-nac.CSU.net> How do you D/L stuff from your mail, UNIX, or ftp down to your hard drive?!! I'm sort of new here!!! Either post it up or e-mail me!!! Thanks N Advance!!! _____ ___ ____ ___ ********** ********** _______ _____ ______ _____ ************ ************ | / | | \ \ | | ( ( * ) _ ( * ) ) | | | /| | ) ) | /| | * \ _ / / \ \ _ / * |___| |_/ |_| /____ / |_/ |_| * _ _ _ _ / \ _ _ _ _ * "Halu-Halo" lOuIe ---------------------------- The O.G. FASA!!! ------------------------------ ------------------------ Cal. State U. Northridge -------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 13:07:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12871; Mon, 5 Sep 94 13:07:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18484; Mon, 5 Sep 94 12:55:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18478; Mon, 5 Sep 94 12:55:58 -0700 Received: from trans4.asu.edu.asu.edu (trans4.ASU.EDU) by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HGR5KOCHPC8X4ECW@asu.edu>; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 12:59:10 MST Received: by trans4.asu.edu.asu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06514; Mon, 5 Sep 94 12:55:47 MST Date: Mon, 05 Sep 1994 12:55:47 -0700 (MST) From: Yours Truly Subject: Supported terminal types To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Will someone please help with the following question from a Pine 3.89 user? Thanks! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- What valid terminal types, other than vt100, are valid for use with pine/pico? pine/pico didn't like vt220. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 14:23:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14043; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:23:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23260; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:09:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.nada.kth.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23254; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:09:29 -0700 Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mail.nada.kth.se (5.61-bind 1.4+ida/nada-mx-1.0) id AA04864; Mon, 5 Sep 94 23:09:24 +0200 Message-Id: <9409052109.AA04864@nada.kth.se> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Any way to get just-send-8-bit with Pine? In-Reply-To: <34b1u6$gmn@trane.uninett.no> from "jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) " "3 Sep 1994 23:47:18 GMT " Date: Mon, 05 Sep 1994 23:09:19 +0200 From: Peter Svanberg Quoting: jek@dec01.ngu.no (Jan Erik Kofoed) > > This problem is probably common to most European sites using Pine. > Pine 3.90 is indeed a wonderful mail-program, and in fact the only feature > we are missing is the ability to switch quoted-printable on/off. At least > in the Nordic countries many sites are using MTAs that are capable of > handling 8bit coded mail. Turning QP off will then be quite safe. Well, we have not come to an agreement on how to do in the Nordic contries in the current difficult intermediate stage. > I hope the Pine development team will consider this as a future > enhancement. > > Meanwhile, I hope Peter Svanberg will share his patch with us, giving > notification to this newsgroup. OK, my patch is now avaliable from ftp://ftp.nada.kth.se/pub/pine-3.90-patch-8bit.txt (which means FTP to ftp.nada.kth.se, get the file /pub/pine-3.90-patch-8bit.txt.) Quoting the start of the file: --------- Patches to pine 3.90 ==================== These are patches to get the following: * Correction to the when-to-QP-encode code: The 30% limit must be paired with a lower length limit, or else very short letters could mysteriously sometimes be BASE64-encoded, because of a too high non-ASCII character ratio. (For getting just this correction, see the changes to line 3263-3266 in send.c.) * New command line parameters: -use qp [0 or 1] Use MIME encoding quoted printable for text, not 8-bit. (Default XX, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.) -mime_8 [0 or 1] If text contains 8-bit text, use MIME. (Default YY, 0=no, 1 or [none]=yes.) * New config parameters (on which the XX and YY defaults above depends): DEFAULT_NOT_USE_QUOTED_PRINTABLE - Corresponds to "-use_qp 0" Enable this *only* if your sending software have the ESMTP 8BITMIME extension avaliable and enabled. (See RFC 1425 and RFC 1426.) DEFAULT_USE_NON_MIME_8BIT_LOCALLY - Corresponds to "-mime_8 0" Enable this *only* if your sending software transforms messages to 7-bit before sending them outside your domain, or if it transforms it to MIME and uses ESMTP 8BITMIME (see above). (I do *not* take any responsibility for the functionality of Pine 3.90 after applying this patch!) --------- Peter Svanberg, Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 14:48:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14457; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:48:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23654; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:38:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23648; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:37:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhlRi-00000YC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 14:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: william@london.sbi.com (William Charles) Subject: Pine 3.90 and IMAP Date: 5 Sep 1994 21:15:37 GMT Message-Id: <34g1pp$frm@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> Dear All, I have recently upgraded to 3.90 and took the oportunity of installing imapd on our file-servers too -- this saves NFS mounting /usr/spool/mail onto every client. But... I specify numerous mail folders in my .pinerc, and combined with the .rhosts mechanism this gives easy and fairly quick access to my mail without the need for typing in a username & password. The problem (a niggle rather than a full blown problem) is why doesn't PINE check your hostname before attempting to open an IMAP connection? If I'm logged into a machine for which one of my folders is actually local, why doesn't PINE realise and simply access the file directly? ie. I'm logged into `bismarck', and my INBOX is as follows INBOX {bismarck}~/mail/INBOX Wouldn't it be faster to simply open the file and read it? -- Will. ____________ / _/ _ / / / | Salomon Brothers International Limited /_ / _ / / /_ |--------------------------------------------- /___/___/_/___/ | William Charles - Unix Systems Administrator From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 15:57:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15643; Mon, 5 Sep 94 15:57:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20696; Mon, 5 Sep 94 15:47:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20690; Mon, 5 Sep 94 15:47:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhmW0-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 15:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 & MIME Date: 5 Sep 1994 15:26:04 GMT Message-Id: References: Martin Hamilton (martin@mrrl.lut.ac.uk) wrote: : Is there any way of specifying the MIME content-type/encoding when : you compose a message ? I'd like to suggest this as a future feature. Currently pine reads the first few bytes of a file to be attached, and decides on that whether to simply make it an application/octet-stream, or one of PS/GIF/TIFF/or a few others. This is currently done in code. Couldn't this be passed out to a /etc/magic-like file? That way sites could easily add 'native' support for their fav apps without having to hack the code (as I'm currently doing). The flexFAX package (sending faxes under Unix) current employs this approach with much success. As an example - I've yet to _ever_ see/or send a TIFF file (which has 'native' support), but I see Framemaker docs every week. This is such a site-specific issue that I'm sure such a feature would be appreciated. Pine 3.90/via metamail allows things like application/x-framemaker to start an external app - but has no way of actually _producing_ application/x-framemaker. (don't read too much into x-framemaker - it's just an example!!! ;-) BTW - your "read some bytes" technique for sending MIME attachments currently out-performs other more user-interactive forms I've seen in other MIME MUAs - it's one less thing the user has to worry about/forget :-) -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 17:34:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17531; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:34:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25990; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:24:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sunstel.asu.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25978; Mon, 5 Sep 94 17:23:43 -0700 Received: by sunstel.asu.cas.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15366; Tue, 6 Sep 94 02:23:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 02:23:27 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Skoda X-Sender: skoda@sunstel To: pine-info Subject: problems with PostScript attachments in pine3.90 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1358958682-354620224-778811007=:15362" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1358958682-354620224-778811007=:15362 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have found a possible bug in viewing PostScript attachments in 3.90 using .mailcap . (BTW where is the "Sample mailcap file bundled with the Pine distribution " as mentioned in Release notes ? - I did not find it in pine3.90.tar.Z ) I will attach a postscript file using ^J in header and the pine correctly encodes it. When I read the message with this attachment the pine displays correctly that the 2nd attachment is a PostScript file (in rich header is MIME Content-type: APPLICATION/PostScript - read by /ucb/mail) but using View attachment it complains: Don't know how to display attachment format Application/POSTSCRIPT (note the change in Capitals ) but the entry in .mailcap is correct, because metamail will correctly run the ghostview. I have tried other MIME formats and everything works OK (gif, jpeg, binary, ) (My mailcap is included as attachment) Is there a bug in converting Capitals from .mailcap to MIME content-type (case sensitivity in reading .mailcap) or am I completely wrong in understanding of MIME .mailcap? P.S. pine3.90 is great great great !!! 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Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26854; Mon, 5 Sep 94 18:38:41 -0700 Received: by sunstel.asu.cas.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15533; Tue, 6 Sep 94 03:38:34 +0200 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 03:38:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Skoda X-Sender: skoda@sunstel To: pine-info Subject: problems with PostScript attachments SOLVED! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The problem was in blank line after image section of .mailcap. After deleting it works fine. Thanks to Ed Grechko ************************************************************************* * Petr Skoda Phone : +42-204-85201, ext. 361 * * Stellar Department +42-204-857361,857136 * * Astronomical Institute CAS Fax : +42-2-881611 * * 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz * * Czech Republic aststel@csearn.bitnet * ************************************************************************* ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:14:59 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Petr Skoda Subject: Re: problems with PostScript attachments in pine3.90 One bug has been reported that "may be" an outgrowth of the problem you are seeing. Pine does not like blank lines in the .mailcap file. It treats it like an EOF. Try getting rid of the blank lines and try again..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 20:44:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20637; Mon, 5 Sep 94 20:44:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28280; Mon, 5 Sep 94 20:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28274; Mon, 5 Sep 94 20:31:32 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA119972505; Mon, 5 Sep 1994 22:35:05 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 22:35:04 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell To: Terry Gray Cc: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Subject: Re: XON-XOFF handling (was: pine 3.90 on Hpux 9.0) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for the suggestion of the patch. The modification did not seem to make much difference in the one communication environment I have noticed a problem. Pine 3.90 does something - even with the suggested deletions from ttyin.c. - 3.89 never did. Environment: 3.90 compiled under Hpux 9.0 Problem seen only with Async. connections (via modem using Procomm Plus 2.0 at 2400 Bd.) not in X or telnet connections. Symptom: Every time the full folder index displays, or whenever I manually rewrite an entire screen using ^L in the Message Text, when all 24 lines have been written, the system sounds an alert several times displaying "Command "^Q" not defined for this screen" or "Unknown Command: ^Q". It does seem to beep a fewer number of times after making the patch... In the same environment, Pine 2.89 compiled for Hpux seemed not to see the ^S ^Q or to ignore them. The frequent alert messages are just a nuisance, not a major problem. Dan On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Dan, > Here's the scoop: > > Unfortunately, on systems that rely on software flow-control, this results > in the symptoms you described. In the upcoming 3.91 maintenance release > this will be a configuration option. Until then, Mike S. advises that > deleting the two lines > > _raw_tchars.t_startc = -1; /* Turn off ^S/^Q */ > _raw_tchars.t_stopc = -1; > > from around line 244 in pine/ttyin.c will make Pine 3.90 behave like > previous versions. > > -teg > > On Sun, 4 Sep 1994, Dan Mandell wrote: > > > Pine 3.90, after displaying a full screen of the index of the current > > inbox folder, the vt100 terminal display beeps, and displays in quick > > succession "Command "^S" is not defined here", and then "Command "^Q" is > > not defined here". This occurs on practically all screen rewrites, at > > least from the index display of the inbox. In fact in the setup, > > configuration section things become unmanageable because of the frequency > > of undefined keystrokes being received...though these keystrokes are not > > originating on my keyboard. > -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 21:29:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21305; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:29:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28853; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28841; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:20:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhrGg-00000dC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 20:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tyton@crl.com (William M Davis) Subject: IMAP VRS POP ? Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 20:01:35 Message-Id: Is there a difference in IMAP mail server and POP mail server or in this and obvious newbie question which makes no sense at all!!! Mike Davis tyton@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 21:29:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21328; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:29:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24836; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:19:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24830; Mon, 5 Sep 94 21:19:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qhqo6-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 20:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ashok Aiyar Subject: Re: Supported terminal types Date: Mon, 5 Sep 1994 23:00:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Yours Truly wrote: > Will someone please help with the following question from a Pine 3.89 user? > > Thanks! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > What valid terminal types, other than vt100, are valid for use with > pine/pico? pine/pico didn't like vt220. That's odd, I am using Pine with a vt220 emulator (WinQVT/net), and it is working fine. Perhaps you do not have a proper termcap for vt220? Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar email: ashok@mirage.bioc.cwru.edu CWRU Medical School telephone: (216) 368-3300 Department of Biochemistry fax: (216) 368-4544 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 22:57:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22930; Mon, 5 Sep 94 22:57:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26231; Mon, 5 Sep 94 22:48:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26225; Mon, 5 Sep 94 22:48:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qht7j-00000NC; Mon, 5 Sep 94 22:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: raan@netcom.com (Ran Ever-Hadani) Subject: Default Fcc: folder by To: field Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 05:10:05 GMT This is a bug report. I have pine configured so that the default Fcc: is taken from the address book. Suppose I have an address in the book for a the user username@somewhere.com, with the nickname nick and the default folder nickfolder. When I call pine like this % pine nick I am placed in the composer with the cursor in the To: line, and with username@somewhere.com written in it. In the Fcc: it says "nickfolder". so far, so good. Now when I leave the To line, say by hitting the down arrow, the contents of the Fcc: field is replaced with "username". -- Ran From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Sep 5 23:19:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23399; Mon, 5 Sep 94 23:19:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26499; Mon, 5 Sep 94 23:03:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26487; Mon, 5 Sep 94 23:03:16 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:00:42 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 14:00:41 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: William M Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP VRS POP ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, William M Davis wrote: > Is there a difference in IMAP mail server and POP mail server or in this > and obvious newbie question which makes no sense at all!!! Yes, there is a difference....and this should help explain it even if it is a bit out of date..... 93.5.10 Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP Terry Gray Director, Networks & Distributed Computing University of Washington There are several different approaches to building a distributed electronic mail infrastructure. For example: LAN-oriented, vendor specific systems; single time-sharing machine solutions; and Internet-oriented mailserver-based solutions. The principal options in this last category are DMSP (Distributed Mail System Protocol), POP (Post Office Protocol), and IMAP (Interactive Mail Access Protocol). These protocols are more robust foundations for a distributed email system than vendor-specific systems requiring gateways to Internet mail. Of these three, POP is the oldest and consequently the best known. DMSP is largely limited to a single application, PCMAIL, and is known primarily for its disconnected (offline) operation capabilities. IMAP offers significant advantages over POP. This gap is likely to widen as a result of the imminent addition of disconnected operation extensions to IMAP. With POP (Post Office Protocol), mail is delivered to a shared server, and a personal computer user periodically connects to the server and downloads all of the pending mail to the "client" machine. Thereafter, all mail processing is local to the client machine. Think of POP as providing a store-and-forward service, intended to move mail (on demand) from an intermediate server (drop point) to a single destination machine, usually a PC or Mac. Once delivered to the PC or Mac, the messages are typically deleted from the POP server. IMAP is a client-server mail protocol designed to permit manipulation of remote mailboxes as if they were local. With IMAP, mail is again delivered to a shared server, but the mail client machine does not normally copy it all at once and then delete it from the server. It's more of a client-server model, where the IMAP client can ask the server for headers, or the bodies of specified messages, or to search for messages meeting certain criteria. Messages in the mail repository can be marked as deleted and subsequently expunged, but they stay on the repository until the user takes such action. Depending on the IMAP client implementation and the mail architecture desired by a system manager, the user may save messages directly on the client machine, or save them on the server, or be given the choice of doing either. While POP and IMAP both allow access to mail on a remote server from a variety of different client platforms, they reflect two different paradigms and styles of use. POP works best for people who use a single client machine all the time; it is not well-suited for the goals of accessing one's inbox of recent messages or saved-message folders from different places and different machines at different times. The strength of POP, other than its wide availability, is that it minimizes use of server resources and connect time when used via dialup. However, since IMAP is a functional superset of POP, it can also be used in the "POP paradigm" of connecting to a mail server, retrieving all the pending messages, and disconnecting. Thus, the only advantage of the POP *protocol* over IMAP relates to software availability and not functionality. As the amount of IMAP software is growing rapidly, the historic prevalence of POP is of diminishing importance when compared to the many advantages of IMAP. Because IMAP can mimic all of the POP mail retrieval functions, it is useful to distinguish the characteristics of the IMAP and POP *paradigms*, as well as the protocols themselves. The paradigms define what the user can do in each model; the protocol characteristics relate to efficiency, performance, etc. Here are some of the key similarities and differences between the two... o POP and IMAP reflect two different paradigms: -POP = store-and-forward (usually to a single client). -IMAP = multiple client-server mailbox access. o Characteristics common to both POP and IMAP: -Mail is delivered to a shared, "always up" mail server. -New mail accessible from a variety of client platform types. -New mail accessible from anywhere in network. -Offline mail processing possible, though neither designed for it. -Protocols are open; defined by Internet RFCs. -Freely available implementations (including source) available. -Clients available for PCs, Macs, and Unix. -Commercial implementations available. -Internet oriented; no SMTP mail gateways required. o POP paradigm advantages: -Minimum use of connect time. -Minimum use of server resources. o POP protocol advantages: -Simpler protocol; easier to implement. -More client software currently available. o IMAP paradigm advantages: -Saved-message folders may be stored on server (as well as INBOX). -Allows access to INBOX (not just new mail) from multiple platforms. -Allows concurrent access to a shared mailbox from multiple platforms. -Allows concurrent access to mailboxes on multiple mailservers. -Offers improved offline mail handling. -Allows selective transfer of messages/parts to client (local Save). -Can also use POP paradigm, for minimum connect time and server resources. o IMAP protocol advantages: -Suitable for accessing non-email data; e.g., NetNews, documents. -Faster startup time, as only the headers are fetched initially. -Allows selective fetching of individual MIME message body parts. -Effective over low-speed links. -Ability to use server for searching. -Offline processing w/resynchronizing is a planned enhancement. "Saved-message folders may be stored on server (as well as INBOX)" allows "dataless" clients and/or nomadic users (e.g. student labs). "Allows access to INBOX (not just new mail) from multiple platforms" means that if you have a Mac in your office, and PC at home, and a Unix machine in the lab, you can move freely among them and access the same INBOX. "Allows concurrent access to a shared mailbox from multiple platforms." This capability is useful when multiple individuals are processing messages coming into a common inbox. Changes in mailbox state can be presented to all concurrently active clients via IMAP. "Allows concurrent access to multiple inboxes on multiple mailservers." This is useful for people who have partitioned their incoming mail streams, either via delivery filters, or by having different accounts for different purposes. IMAP "offers improved offline mail handling" compared to POP. Unlike the DMSP protocol used in the PCMAIL program, neither POP nor IMAP was designed with offline use as a primary goal. However, POP is widely used for this, even though it is not particularly well-suited for the task. POP requires you to either entrust all of your mail to your client machine (which may be about to go thru an airport xray machine), or to over-ride the normal POP server behavior of deleting the mail on the server, and manually resynchronizing the diverging mailbox states at a later time. IMAP can do better: you can connect to the server, save to a local folder all or selected messages, and disconnect. The advantages over POP are that (1) the saved messages may be retained on the server, but *marked* as deleted, so they can be distinguished later from unselected or more recent messages, and expunged once it is clear they won't be needed, and (2) the ability to save (download) selectively --especially important when one has a 2MB audio message in the mailbox and is reading mail via a low-bandwidth connection from a machine that has no sound capability. "Allows selective transfer of messages/parts to client (local Save)." Especially when connecting to a mail server via low-bandwidth lines, it is useful to be able to defer transferring messages that are not of immediate interest until a more propitious time. Moreover, with multimedia or multipart MIME messages, transferring selected parts of a message in increasingly useful. Efficient processing of MIME messages is one of the major advantages of IMAP over POP. MIME stands for Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions. It is a technique for encoding arbitrary files as attachments to SMTP and RFC-822 compatible Internet mail messages. This is something that proprietary, LAN-oriented, mail systems have had for some time, and now is finally available for the Internet. It allows one to send spreadsheets, word processing docs, images, and audio to 5 or 10 million of "your closest Internet friends". MIME has one particularly nice capability: it allows inclusion of alternate representations. For example, a plain-text version of a document, plus a fax or RTF version. With IMAP, the receiving mail user agent gets to decide which message parts to transfer and present to the user, falling back to plain text if that's all it can do. Even though MIME support is not yet pervasive, its importance and impact on the IMAP/POP question should not be underestimated. There is tremendous pent-up demand for this capability and it is taking off fast. In fact, people are already using MIME for things that have nothing to do with mail (e.g. encoding different representations of technical documents, for campus-wide information systems.) MIME is orthogonal to IMAP and POP, except that IMAP and MIME are extremely complementary, and there are already IMAP clients that understand MIME. (POP clients can and will be taught to understand MIME, too, but the fact that POP copies all pending messages at startup, and MIME messages can be very large, means that POP users may need to become even more patient!) "Can also use POP paradigm, for minimum connect time and server resources." The POP paradigm is of interest in situations where the only access to a mail server is via expensive dialup connections and multi-platform access to one's inbox(es) is not needed. It is also useful in environments where client machines are resource-rich and servers are resource-poor. However, because IMAP is a superset of POP functionality, IMAP can be used in "POP mode". That is, IMAP clients can be designed to provide the option of transfering all messages to the client and processing them locally (generally offline), thus providing the same advantages POP has in terms of minimizing connect time and use of server resources. In summary, the fact that IMAP provides access to a persistent remote mail store, and does not move all pending messages to the client machine, offers more flexible access to that mail, and provides significant performance advantages over POP in terms of start-up time and access to large MIME messages. The option of accessing remote saved-message folders and/or NetNews via IMAP (and from the same mail user agent) provides additional architectural flexibility in comparison to POP. A reasonable conclusion is that the only advantage of POP over IMAP is that there is currently more POP software available. However, this is changing rapidly, and IMAP's functional advantages over POP are nothing less than overwhelming. IMAP2 is defined in RFC-1176. An "IMAP2bis" document describing recent extensions to IMAP is available (along with various IMAP clients and a server) in the /mail directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. Also available from the same place is a POP server that, in addition to offering the normal POP service, can relay commands to an IMAP server, thus permitting existing POP clients to access an IMAP server. The IMAP server available from UW also incorporates a NetNews driver, used at UW as part of its Campus-Wide Information System. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 01:12:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26156; Tue, 6 Sep 94 01:12:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02244; Tue, 6 Sep 94 01:02:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02238; Tue, 6 Sep 94 01:02:01 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <13806-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 08:51:06 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA11715; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:01:55 +0100 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:01:54 +0100 From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: Putnam Barber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Append/Overwrite confusion In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Are you sure you want to do this?" Yes. "Are you SURE you want to do this?" Yes. "Are you REALLY sure you want to do this?" Yes! "It can't be undone, so are you REALLY, REALLY sure?" YES!@! "I don't think you ARE sure ... perhaps I'd better not do it after all." AAARRRGGGHHHHH!! More seriously, I think the current Append/Overwrite behaviour is right. In previous versions of Pine there was NO easy way to overwrite a file; now there is. As with previous changes it's just a little matter of finger training -- it took me a while to get used to running with confirmation of expunges turned off (I kept typing a "y" ahead as confirmation, which instead get taken as a prYnt command). The prompts are in line with the rest of Pine's behaviour. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Putnam Barber wrote: > > As comments are collected for Pine 3.91, please include this regret for > the shift from 3.89's "file exists, append [y/n]" format to 3.90's > admittedly more logical (but +much+ more dangerous) choice of A(ppend) or > O(verwrite). At least, the O(verwrite) branch should require or > optionally be configurable with a confirmation. > > Maybe it is confirgurable to require a confirmation. If so, +please+ let > me know so I stop replacing yesterday's great stuff with today's trash :-(. > > Putnam Barber > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 04:53:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01108; Tue, 6 Sep 94 04:53:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01095; Tue, 6 Sep 94 04:45:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from spark.NSPower.NS.Ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01086; Tue, 6 Sep 94 04:44:59 -0700 Received: by Spark.NSPower.NS.Ca (4.1/NSP-1.0) id AA04414; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:43:50 ADT Received: from nspc04.nspower.ns.ca(142.67.23.19) by spark via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma004412; Tue Sep 6 08:43:40 1994 Received: from ns371.nspcplan (ns371) by NSPC04 (PMDF V4.3-7 #6827) id <01HGSAWUPALCEPF1KD@NSPC04>; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 08:42:33 AST Received: from ns3746.nspcplan by ns371.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13215; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:44:09 ADT Received: by ns3746.nspcplan (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00604; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:44:10 ADT Date: Tue, 06 Sep 1994 08:44:10 -0300 (ADT) From: "" Subject: Re: Supported terminal types In-Reply-To: X-Sender: p95rc@ns3746 To: Yours Truly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Yours Truly wrote: > Will someone please help with the following question from a Pine 3.89 user? > > Thanks! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > What valid terminal types, other than vt100, are valid for use with > pine/pico? pine/pico didn't like vt220. > > If your termcap is like the standard SunOS, there is no entry for vt220, but there is one for vt200, try it. Regards, Robert W. Creighton, P.Eng. E-Mail: robert.creighton@nspower.ns.ca Sr. System Design Engineer Voice: (902) 428-6877 Nova Scotia Power, Inc Fax: (902) 428-6118 P.O. Box 910 Halifax, NS, CANADA B3J 2W5 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 06:21:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03086; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:21:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02217; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:13:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ilium.troy.msen.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02203; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:13:09 -0700 Received: from boozsh by ilium.troy.msen.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qi0J9-0002nYC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:11 EDT Received: from fugu.frc.com by boozsh.frc.com with smtp (Smail3.1.27.1 #2) id m0qhzRG-0006zcC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:15 EDT Received: by fugu.frc.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA10219; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:15:49 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 08:15:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Syed A. Nabi" Reply-To: "Syed A. Nabi" Subject: Re: Supported terminal types To: Yours Truly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Yours Truly wrote: > Date: Mon, 05 Sep 1994 12:55:47 -0700 (MST) > From: Yours Truly > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Supported terminal types > > Will someone please help with the following question from a Pine 3.89 user? > > Thanks! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > What valid terminal types, other than vt100, are valid for use with > pine/pico? pine/pico didn't like vt220. > That's unusual. I am using DEC vt220 and never seen any problem with pine. Probably your termcap is not properly setup. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Syed A. Nabi | Internet : nabisa@frc.com | sanabi@vela.acs.oakland.edu FANUC Robotics North America, Inc. | BITNET : SANABI@OAKLAND 2000 S. Adams Road | Voice : +1 (810) 377-7718 Auburn Hills, MI-48326 | +1 (810) 589-3402 | Fax : +1 (810) 377-7363 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 06:22:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03133; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:22:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06424; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:14:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06418; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:14:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi03h-00000cC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 05:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: PC pine 3.90 and DOS 6.3 ????? Date: 6 Sep 1994 12:49:43 GMT Message-Id: <34hoh7$1d3@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Has anyone tried to use PC pine 3.90 (both dos and win. vers.) on a PC running DOS 6.3 ? We have one PC with DOS 6.3 installed and PC pine 3.90 can't send mails from that PC. On other PC's it work ok, and PC pine 3.89 also works OK on the DOS 6.3 machine. If PC pine 3.90 is run on "raw" dos 6.3 it goes all right, but if it is started e.g. from windows (both dos pine 3.90 and the win pine 3.90 can be started from windows) it can't send mails. Everything else works OK, just the smtp mailtransfere from the pc to the mailserver don't work. On the same machine everything works OK with pine 3.89. Any good suggestions help and hints are welcome. Thanks in advance -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! 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DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 07:01:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03902; Tue, 6 Sep 94 07:01:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02746; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02740; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:54:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi0hi-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 06:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mauricio@tezcat.com (Mauricio Araujo) Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig Date: 6 Sep 1994 08:33:31 -0500 Message-Id: <34hr3b$rmj@xochi.tezcat.com> References: <34emmn$1dt@crl3.crl.com> Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: : I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my : .sig to get added at the END of my replies. In the configuration of Pine there is an option to put your ".signature" file at the end of your replies. -- ============================================================================= Opinions not necessarily those of the author ;) _____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 07:34:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04665; Tue, 6 Sep 94 07:34:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07307; Tue, 6 Sep 94 07:19:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07293; Tue, 6 Sep 94 07:19:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi17t-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 07:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Overwrite don't in 3.90 Date: 6 Sep 1994 13:59:50 GMT Message-Id: <34hskn$o2j@news.cerf.net> Seems the option to "O"verwrite and existing file from the message "E"xport function does and Append instead. Am I alone in this bug? -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 08:44:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07266; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:44:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08793; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:35:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08787; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:35:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi2HL-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chuck@cedar.plexus.com (Chuck Tomasi) Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig Date: 6 Sep 1994 09:39:19 -0500 Message-Id: <34huun$4oo@aztec.pd.tgi.plexus.com> References: <34emmn$1dt@crl3.crl.com> <34hr3b$rmj@xochi.tezcat.com> In <34hr3b$rmj@xochi.tezcat.com> mauricio@tezcat.com (Mauricio Araujo) writes: >Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: >: I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my >: .sig to get added at the END of my replies. >In the configuration of Pine there is an option to put your ".signature" >file at the end of your replies. This is probably one of the most common Pine questions/requests I get. I don't know why the default isn't at the end of the file (especially for replies.) I guess you can't please all the people all the time. For Unix Pine (v3.89) you should have a file in your home directory called .pinerc. This file is well commented and shouldn't be overlooked for a wealth of information in configuring Pine. Every time I help someone with something I seem to learn more about Pine. The information you are looking for is in a line called: feature-list: Above the line is a bunch of options which should be comma separated. The one you are interested in is called "signature-at-bottom". Your feature-list line should look something like this: feature-list: signature-at-bottom Reading the .pinerc file should shed more light on the subject. -- Chuck Tomasi Chuck.Tomasi@plexus.com Systems Administrator http://www.plexus.com/~chuck/ Technology Group Inc. (414)751-3327 (voice) !!! Bill Gates is *NOT* my friend !!! (414)722-3220 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 08:50:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07472; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:50:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04552; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:43:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04546; Tue, 6 Sep 94 08:43:45 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:41:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 23:41:10 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Dan Malcor-LA Times Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 In-Reply-To: <34hskn$o2j@news.cerf.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Sep 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > Seems the option to "O"verwrite and existing file from the message "E"xport > function does and Append instead. Am I alone in this bug? A simple test here: 1. Export message to new file. 2. Export another message to same file. 3. Choose Overwrite. 4. Worked fine here..... Can you supply more details on your environment? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 09:25:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09388; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09761; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:09:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09755; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:09:50 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03706; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:09:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ran Chermesh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can't access cac for update In-Reply-To: <34evkc$1q1@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Now fixed. (It was, by the way, a passwd file problem that also affected anonymous ftp access.) -teg On 5 Sep 1994, Ran Chermesh wrote: > I tried to use the setup option on the main menu of my pine in order to > upgrade my pine to version 3.90. For some reason, the response I get is a > request for my login and password, which, expectedly, fail. > What's wrong? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 09:29:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09579; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:29:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09941; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:19:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09935; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:19:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi304-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Robinson Subject: Re: Pine 3.9 and newsgroups Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:20:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: References: <33rbsc$43n@news.halcyon.com> <33rpf6$b1p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33rpf6$b1p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> On 29 Aug 1994, king shu wrote: > You have to delete them just as what you do on your email. > > > In article <33rbsc$43n@news.halcyon.com> gmartz@nwcl.nwcl.net (Greg Martz) writes: > > Am now using Pine 3.90, and found something in the newsgroup section. > >It seems, that when I go through all the newsgroups (with tab) and read > >all the messages, exit pine, go back later, all the news items I had > >already read, are there again. Anyway I can get it so it will only have > >the ones I haven't read?? This should be a selectable feature; marking items as read using a newsreader is automatic. What the Pine Development Team should consider is checking with Iain Lee (or whatever his name is) and develop a merger of Pine and Tin together so that the features of threaded newsreading will be available for Pine users as well as the other features. I'd like to see Pine become a "one stop shopping" place for news and mail. As it is, it's very good; I'd like to see it do better. Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 10:16:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11484; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:16:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06375; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06369; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:04:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi3dx-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Gardiner Myers Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and IMAP Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:39:32 -0400 Message-Id: <4iP8oou00WBwQ3OhA=@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <34g1pp$frm@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <34g1pp$frm@offas_dike.sbil.co.uk> william@london.sbi.com (William Charles) writes: > ie. I'm logged into `bismarck', and my INBOX is as follows > > INBOX {bismarck}~/mail/INBOX > > Wouldn't it be faster to simply open the file and read it? The IMAP server on "bismarck" might not be the c-client implementation. "~/mail/INBOX" might not be what it is in the filesystem. -- _.John G. Myers Internet: jgm+@CMU.EDU LoseNet: ...!seismo!ihnp4!wiscvm.wisc.edu!give!up From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 11:10:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13704; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:10:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12172; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:59:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12166; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi4Z6-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: epearson@olac (Erik A. Pearson) Subject: PC-Pine: Attachments on a LAN Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:34:00 GMT Message-Id: <34i968$s66@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, I'm wondering if there is a fix yet for the PC-Pine bugette that occurs when attempting to read an attachment when PC-Pine is run from a LAN drive. Specifically, Pine tries to create a temporary file on the root drive from which it is run, instead of the directory pointed to by the TMP or TEMP environment variable. Since users don't normally have write access to the root of a shared disk, (most of) our users can't read or save attachements. Thanks, Erik Pearson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 11:19:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14081; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:19:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07699; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:09:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07684; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:09:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi4hd-00000bC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfrazz@tazman (Steve Frazzini - Sales Rep Sun Vienna Va.) Subject: Pine 3.90 WHERE? Date: 6 Sep 1994 15:59:07 GMT Message-Id: <34i3kb$gg9@koppel.East.Sun.COM> I must have missed it, but where is pine 3.90? I have searched archie with no luck. I apologize if this is old news or in the FAQ. TIA, -Steve -- /\ \\ \ Stephen M. Frazzini \ \\ / Federal Account Executive / \/ / / / / \//\ Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, Inc. \//\ / / 2650 Park Tower Drive, 4th Floor / / /\ / Vienna, Va. 22180 / \\ \ 703 204-4915 or 24915 (internal) \ \\ 703 204-4782 (FAX) \/ steve.frazzini@east.sun.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 11:23:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14348; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:23:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07787; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:13:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ilium.troy.msen.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07775; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:13:24 -0700 Received: from boozsh by ilium.troy.msen.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qi4z3-0002nTC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:11 EDT Received: from fugu.frc.com by boozsh.frc.com with smtp (Smail3.1.27.1 #2) id m0qi3mt-0006zcC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:54 EDT Received: by fugu.frc.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA11153; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:54:26 EDT Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Syed A. Nabi" Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig To: Mauricio Araujo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <34hr3b$rmj@xochi.tezcat.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sep 1994, Mauricio Araujo wrote: > Date: 6 Sep 1994 08:33:31 -0500 > From: Mauricio Araujo > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig > > Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: > : I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my > : .sig to get added at the END of my replies. > > In the configuration of Pine there is an option to put your ".signature" > file at the end of your replies. > -- > > > > ============================================================================= > Opinions not necessarily those of the author ;) > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Try the following in your .pinerc # Name of file to read signature out of for inclusion in outgoing mail signature-file=/pde1/nabisa/.signature feature-list=old-growth, signature-at-bottom That will work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Syed A. Nabi | Internet : nabisa@frc.com | sanabi@vela.acs.oakland.edu FANUC Robotics North America, Inc. | BITNET : SANABI@OAKLAND 2000 S. Adams Road | Voice : +1 (810) 377-7718 Auburn Hills, MI-48326 | +1 (810) 589-3402 | Fax : +1 (810) 377-7363 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 11:44:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15350; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:44:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08188; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:31:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lime.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08174; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:31:29 -0700 Received: by lime.wustl.edu (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA13227; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:29:00 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:28:59 -0500 (CDT) From: GH Chinoy X-Sender: hussain@lime To: Gary Jensen Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: Some defaults for pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Prof. Jensen, I'm not sure if Pine has implemented a personalized way of ordering mailboxes. I do remember, though, back w/ an earlier version (we're now at version 3.90), mailboxes seemed to be ordered by date of creation. I'm also not sure if there's a way to specifically ask Pine to not delete mailboxes within a certain time frame. I'm cc:'ing this message to the Pine-Info list; hopefully they'll have some answers as well. Sincerely, Hussain ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu On Tue, 6 Sep 1994, Gary Jensen wrote: > As it is now set up, when I quit pine it puts undeleted messages into > the folder read-messages. At the beginning of a new month, it labels > that folder read-messages-month, and I like that. I have found that > keeping my messages chronologically works best for finding things. > Two suggestions. The read-messages folder should be right at the top > with the sent-messages folder, since those are the two folders I look at > most often. Second, at the beginning of the month when it asks whether I > want read-messages-sixmonthsago deleted (likewise for sent-messages), I > like to keep these for six months, then delete. Can it be set up so that > once I answer no, it stops asking and goes on to the next thing, rather > than running through the next six folders asking if I want to delete > them? I seem to recall that it used to work like that. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 12:02:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16311; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:02:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13328; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:50:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13319; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:50:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi5K5-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 WHERE? Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:06:48 GMT Message-Id: <34ib3o$7iu@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> References: <34i3kb$gg9@koppel.East.Sun.COM> Thus spake sfrazz@tazman (Steve Frazzini - Sales Rep Sun Vienna Va.): >I must have missed it, but where is pine 3.90? I have searched archie with >no luck. I apologize if this is old news or in the FAQ. Try ftp.cac.washington.edu -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >TIA, >-Steve >-- > /\ > \\ \ Stephen M. Frazzini > \ \\ / Federal Account Executive > / \/ / / > / / \//\ Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, Inc. > \//\ / / 2650 Park Tower Drive, 4th Floor > / / /\ / Vienna, Va. 22180 > / \\ \ 703 204-4915 or 24915 (internal) > \ \\ 703 204-4782 (FAX) > \/ > steve.frazzini@east.sun.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 12:42:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18077; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:42:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09432; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:29:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09426; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:29:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi5vw-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: butta1@bu.edu (Nelson Chin) Subject: how to post a mail message in Pine? Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:48:15 GMT Message-Id: <34ia0v$6ls@news.bu.edu> how do i post or bounce a mail message to a newsgroup? also how can i reply/followup a newsgroup message and cc/bcc it to other people? Nelson -- EMAIL: butta1@bu.edu CIIP: nchin@hnt.com OTHER: GWBV10E@prodigy.com CCIC: cyl@ifcss.org L-NITT: ttennis@bu.edu NAME: NELSON CHIN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 13:10:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19550; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14834; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:59:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14828; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:59:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi6NW-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ec179@city.ac.uk (Mark Lewis) Subject: Re: MIME compose in pine ?? Message-Id: <1994Sep6.164004.3416@city.ac.uk> References: <345s6t$poj@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:40:04 GMT Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > Andrew, > We had hoped to get mime.types support into 3.90, but didn't make it. > It should be in the next non-maintenance release. It'd be nice to be able to specify the Content and Encoding type to be used for attachments. A mime.types file is a good start (this should be used to obtain the default settings), but files don't always have the right extentions. Mark. -- .--------------------------{ From: Mark Lewis }--------------------------. | PGP public key available by fingering ec179@finger.city.ac.uk | `------------------{ Email: nostra@city.ac.uk (MIME) }-------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 13:27:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20064; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:27:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10623; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:14:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10617; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:14:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi6es-00000dC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mike_h@indirect.com (Mike Howerton) Subject: INBOX locked by other process? Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com> Today, out of the blue, I am getting an error when I attempt to start Pine. The error is... 'can't open folder lock, access is readonly' 'folder is open by another process, access is readonly' I get this on both my INBOX folder and my sent-mail folder. I checked and my sent-mail folder is both read and write enabled. The only thing I can think of that changed is that I untarred a file to my /tmp directory last week and hadn't ran Pine since then. I went back and deleted the files that came from the Tar but that didn't correct the problem. Any ideas?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 13:35:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20302; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:35:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15615; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:24:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15609; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:24:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi6nw-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: prob accessing ftp.cac.washington.edu (wrong file perms)?? Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:35:52 GMT Message-Id: <34icq8$jot@news.doit.wisc.edu> Just tried to access the ``fixed'' solaris Imapd from ftp.cac (it did let me in this time -- it wouldn't accept anonymous logins over the weekend), and could see all the files, but when I tried to ``get'' the file I needed from pine/unix-bin-compressed/imapd-bin.solaris.Z, it refused with a 'no permission' error. Anybody know why? mumit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 13:38:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20446; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:38:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10902; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:29:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10894; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:29:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi6uT-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dehahn@buell.shr.dec.com (Christofer deHahn) Subject: Re: pine 3.0 performance Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:13:03 GMT Message-Id: <34i7uv$hud@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: -- I've also noticed that Pine V3.90 is noticeably slower than V3.89, on both the DEC 3000/400 running OSF/1 V3.0 and on the DECstation 5000/200 running Ultrix V4.4. Invoking pine is comparable. Listing the folders is also. Where I notice a difference is closing folders, and especially when closing a folder that has deleted messages. Hopefully the V3.91 will fix this. Closing Pine also seems to take longer. I could run some benchmarks if you like as I have both sets of executables on both machines. Of course, if you have a remote NNTPSERVER and use Pine for news, the response slows dramatically. I don't use Pine for news because of this. Chris << Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Corporation Shrewsbury MA USA >> << ECAD Engineering dehahn@shr.dec.com 508.841.3451 1991 Buell RS1200 >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 14:20:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22344; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:20:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11772; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:11:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from peach.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11766; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:11:29 -0700 Received: by peach.wustl.edu (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA12672; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:09:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:09:00 -0500 (CDT) From: GH Chinoy Subject: Bug in Pine 3.90 To: Pine Info List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi everyone, I just compiled pine (build nxt) 3.90 and it seem to work flawlessly on our NeXT machines running NS 3.2 Apparently, though, users have been recieving this message right after they quit, after having marked some mail in their INBOXes deleted: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. IOT trap. Any clues? Hussain Chinoy ___ __________________________________________________________ /\__\ G. Hussain Chinoy \/__/ Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab NEXTSTEP Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 14:37:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23133; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:37:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12095; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:28:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from haas.Berkeley.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12089; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:28:19 -0700 Received: by haas.berkeley.edu (5.65/Haas-1.34) id AA04203; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 14:28:17 -0700 From: philip@haas.berkeley.edu (Philip Enteles) Message-Id: <9409062128.AA04203@haas.berkeley.edu> Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 14:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 57 unsubscribe pine philip@haas.berkeley.edu Philip Enteles From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 15:18:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24915; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:18:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17712; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:10:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17706; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:10:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi8SJ-00000bC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: INBOX locked by other process? Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:59:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com> That message means that another Pine session has the folder open, but is unable to release the lock. Do you have a session suspended in the background? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Sep 1994, Mike Howerton wrote: > Today, out of the blue, I am getting an error when I attempt to start Pine. > > The error is... > 'can't open folder lock, access is readonly' > 'folder is open by another process, access is readonly' > > I get this on both my INBOX folder and my sent-mail folder. > > I checked and my sent-mail folder is both read and write enabled. > > > The only thing I can think of that changed is that I untarred a file to > my /tmp directory last week and hadn't ran Pine since then. > > I went back and deleted the files that came from the Tar but that didn't > correct the problem. > > > Any ideas?? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 15:21:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25118; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:21:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13085; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:10:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13079; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:09:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi8Ry-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 14:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: INBOX locked by other process? Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com> The message ``folder is open by another process'' is spurious (this bug will be fixed in Pine 3.91). The real problem is that it can not create the folder lock file on /tmp. Check the protections on /tmp as well as the results from ls -la /tmp The folder lock file will have a name such as /tmp/.600.8aef (that is, two hex numbers separated by periods). Remove any old folder lock files that you see on /tmp. -- Mark -- On 6 Sep 1994, Mike Howerton wrote: > > Today, out of the blue, I am getting an error when I attempt to start Pine. > > The error is... > 'can't open folder lock, access is readonly' > 'folder is open by another process, access is readonly' > > I get this on both my INBOX folder and my sent-mail folder. > > I checked and my sent-mail folder is both read and write enabled. > > > The only thing I can think of that changed is that I untarred a file to > my /tmp directory last week and hadn't ran Pine since then. > > I went back and deleted the files that came from the Tar but that didn't > correct the problem. > > > Any ideas?? > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 15:41:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26185; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18282; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:35:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18276; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:35:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi8oY-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ashok@mirage.bioc.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 WHERE? Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:55:44 GMT Message-Id: <34idvg$50c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <34i3kb$gg9@koppel.East.Sun.COM> In article gg9@koppel.East.Sun.COM, sfrazz@tazman (Steve Frazzini - Sales Rep Sun Vienna Va.) writes: >I must have missed it, but where is pine 3.90? I have searched archie with >no luck. I apologize if this is old news or in the FAQ. > ftp.cac.washington.edu .... Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar email: ashok@mirage.bioc.cwru.edu CWRU Medical School telephone: (216) 368-3300 Department of Biochemistry fax: (216) 368-4544 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 15:42:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26222; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:42:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13561; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:35:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13541; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:35:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi8oI-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 17:53:14 GMT Here are instructions for setting up a mail filter on your Unix host. This uses the filter option of the Elm mail reader... but the filter puts your mail into standard mail folders, and so once you have set up filter, you can read mail with Pine or Elm, etc. You can also setup the filter to forward mail from specified users, and so on. If you have suggestions for improving this document see the ftp location at the end. USING ELM'S FILTER PROGRAM TO FILTER INCOMING MAIL ================================================== 1] Note the full path for filter by typing: which filter If your system doesn't have filter ask your sys admin to install it. <<< filter is installed at /local/bin/filter >>> 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd <<< mine is ~ (~ means your home directory) >>> 3] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 4] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules: if (to contains "seasigi") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.seasigi" if (to contains "lynx-dev") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.lynx-dev" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-talk" if (to contains "www-announce") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/INBOX.www-announce" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Unix mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... <<< mine looks like this. (I'm on 3 mailing lists) if (to contains "consim") then save " ~/Mail/Inbox.consim-l" if (to contains "666th-etal") then save " ~/Mail/Inbox.airwarrior" if (to contains "GERMNEWS") then save "/bolero/home/jloll/Mail/germnews" >>> 5] To see what the filter rules will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 6] Create a ~/.forward file by typing: cd pico .forward 7] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" <<< and mine is "|/local/bin/filter -o /bolero/home/jloll/.elm/filter-errors" >>> Note you do want to include the quotes and you want to replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1) and replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Note that on some systems you will need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod +x . <<>> 8] Send yourself an email message to make sure that regular messages get through to your default inbox. 9] Regularly look at ~/.elm/filterlog and filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space! <<< purge them regularly. my filterlog is 25k for two days. >>> <<< Further notes: pine will send any mail not matching the descriptions to INBOX. pine will not notify you about about the new mail in the other boxes. It is best to keep incoming mail apart from the archived stuff. I have a Inbox.consim and save the interesting messages to the consim box after I have read them. >>> FOR MORE INFO SEE: man filter |less comp.mail.elm Elm Filter Guide I hope this helps. Please send me any suggestions for improving it - updated versions will be on ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail. -Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink -- Kevin Internet: kjs@computer.com San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 16:00:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27298; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:00:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14071; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:55:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14065; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:55:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi96K-00000bC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aa160@city.ac.uk (Anup M Changaroth) Subject: Re: Ispell 3.1.8 with PINE 3.90 Message-Id: References: Date: 6 Sep 94 18:32:01 GMT Keith K Chau writes: >Hi, >I have recently installed the lastest version of Ispell 3.1.8 to replace >the less advanced, GNU (discontinued) version 4.0. But I find that the new I can't quite remember the details, but you need to change the SPELLER definition in pine/osdep/os-linux.h to "ispell -l" instead of the default "spell". And recompile pine :) ps: my compliments to the pine team, 3.90 is excellent stuff. -- Anup M. Changaroth URL "http://web.cs.city.ac.uk/finger?aa160" aa160@city.ac.uk L i n u x - t h e l o g i c a l c h o i c e From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 16:20:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28144; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:20:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19144; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:15:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19138; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:15:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qi9R2-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 15:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William Ono Subject: NEW flag in Saved messages Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In Pine 3.89, I used to take some inbound mail and sort them -- one mailing list in a folder, another in a different folder, and if it was directly to me, in my saved-messages folder. This was fine and dandy, because all mail tossed into the folders were flagged NEW, but now in Pine 3.90, all of a sudden, my tossed (saved into folder) mail isn't being makred New. Now I have no idea where I stopped reading from my folders! Erasing the mail after isn't really an option because I like being able to refer back to older mail (well, at least until my disk quota runs short ;> ). Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance.. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | William Ono - wmono@helix.net | | Finger for Mr Genius and Other E-Mail Addresses | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 17:14:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01013; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:14:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15930; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15924; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:10:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiAKF-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 16:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp@questor.org Subject: X400 e-Mail doesn't display date or subject info Date: 6 Sep 1994 08:48:56 -0700 Message-Id: <34i318$qv@questor.org> I have noted that with several X400 e-Mails, neither the date nor the subjects are displayed when doing an "index" listing. Instead, one is shown the message: "[ No Message Text Available ] A copy of the headers from one such (typical) X400 e-Mail follows: > From the-concourse-on-high Tue Sep 6 08:42:29 1994 > > X400-Received: by /PRMD=inria/ADMD=atlas/C=fr/; Relayed; 06 Sep 94 14:23:00+0200 > X400-Received: by /PRMD=cnes/ADMD=atlas/C=FR/; Relayed; 06 Sep 94 14:25:05+0200 > Message-Id: <9409061225.AA14413@scot.cnes.fr> > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.rustex-l > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 08:23:59 -0400 > Reply-To: Russian TeX and Cyrillic text processing list > > Sender: Russian TeX and Cyrillic text processing list > > From: Helene De BOISSEZON > Subject: Re: RUSSIAN COURSES > To: mailing list Is it possible that this will be fixed in an upcoming Pine release? -- FREE ACCESS TO E-MAIL & NEWS - INFO on Environment, Science, Medicine, AIDS, Native (Indigenous) Issues and more. We sell ZyXEL and other products world-wide to support this Free service. :::::> Info from: mail-server@questor.org <::::: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 17:15:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01067; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:15:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15904; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:09:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15898; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:09:09 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:06:38 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:06:38 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Nelson Chin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how to post a mail message in Pine? In-Reply-To: <34ia0v$6ls@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Sep 1994, Nelson Chin wrote: > how do i post or bounce a mail message to a newsgroup? While your cursor is in the header portion, use the ^R to show the additional headers. One of the is Newgroups. > also how can i reply/followup a newsgroup message and cc/bcc it to > other people? Just enter the addresses in the appropriate field in the header portion. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 17:16:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01111; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:16:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15995; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:12:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15989; Tue, 6 Sep 94 17:12:08 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:09:33 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:09:33 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ...filters [FAQ] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just remember that the elm "filter" program *is* case sensitive when it comes to headers. For example, it matches on Cc: but not cc: or CC: This is one of the reasons I switched to procmail. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 18:24:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02685; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:24:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17024; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:20:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17018; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:20:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiBOi-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anto@inn.bppt.go.id (Anto Daryanto) Subject: Swap key ^X ? Date: 6 Sep 1994 19:48:09 -0500 Message-Id: Hi, is possible to swap send-key to another key, I often press ^C to send mail instead of ^X. Thanks in advance, -anto =============================================================== | Antonius Daryanto | Direktorat TEI OS/2 | | a.daryanto@inn.bppt.go.id | BPPT Teknologi & | | | Jakarta, INDONESIA Linux | =============================================================== disclaimer: My opinion does not represent my employer's opinion From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 18:24:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02692; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:24:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21707; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:20:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21701; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:20:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiBOd-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sascjs@kingfish.unx.sas.com (Cliff Schell) Subject: Sort by the "to:" field... Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 20:14:35 GMT Pine 3.90 seems to work fine on our HP-UX system... I have always wanted to sort my folder by the "To:" or "Reply to:" fields and was hoping it would be supported in 3.90 but I haven't seen a way to do it yet? Could someone tell me how to do it? Thanks, -- Cliff Schell (sascjs@unx.sas.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 18:46:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03177; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:46:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17400; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:43:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wor-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17394; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:43:10 -0700 Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (highway@rac9.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.8]) by wor-srv.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA11298 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:43:09 -0400 Received: (highway@localhost) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA08872; Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:43:08 -0400 Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:43:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Subject: ^O PostPone To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Any reason why I can't use ^O on 3.90? John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* | WWW - http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (daily modifications) | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 19:02:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03552; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:02:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22226; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:55:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22220; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:55:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiBwR-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@hebron.connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Yo all Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:15:48 -0700 Message-Id: <34j484$8ur@gibeah.connected.com> Problem with flagging.. I LOVE Pine 3.90.. Anyway, how do I move multiple messages using flag? What flag command do I use (REad, deleted, important), and then what is the command to move them to a different folder? And do I *shudder* have to UNFLAG them after moving so I don't accumulate flagged messages and keep moving the whole bunch to a folder where I only need a few? Any help would be greatly appreciated. a reply by email would be better, but you can reply here too.. IF its not too flooded with other messages to find what I want.. Thanks -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com Prodigy, AOL, Netcom users: lamer@netcom.com | | http://gibeah.connected.com/~jazz/jazz.homepage.html | Long Live Dhall! | \_________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 19:03:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03583; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:03:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17579; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17573; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiBz8-00000fC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: Re: INBOX locked by other process? Message-Id: References: <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 01:21:19 GMT In article <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com>, Mike Howerton wrote: >Today, out of the blue, I am getting an error when I attempt to start Pine. > >The error is... >'can't open folder lock, access is readonly' >'folder is open by another process, access is readonly' > >I get this on both my INBOX folder and my sent-mail folder. > >I checked and my sent-mail folder is both read and write enabled. > > >The only thing I can think of that changed is that I untarred a file to >my /tmp directory last week and hadn't ran Pine since then. > >I went back and deleted the files that came from the Tar but that didn't >correct the problem. > > >Any ideas?? You didn't specify if you were using imap to access folders. We were getting this problem with imapd 3.3 because there was a problem with its "kiss of death" routine. The first time you connected to your mailbox the imap process created a lockfile in /tmp containing its process-id; unfortunately the lockfile was marked unreadable by all other processes. If you tried to access the same folder concurrently from another Pine or ECSMail, the second imap couldn't read the file in /tmp and hence couldn't signal the first imap to let go of the lock. I don't believe this was fixed in imapd 3.4, but perhaps someone else knows better. (We have a non-standard fix on.) Alex Nishri University of Toronto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 19:18:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04120; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:18:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17796; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:12:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17790; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:12:03 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:09:34 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 10:09:31 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^O PostPone In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Sep 1994, -sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. wrote: > Any reason why I can't use ^O on 3.90? Any reason why you didn't give more details about the failure? Tell us what platform you are using. Tell us what the sequence of events. FYI, I use it here on a SparcStation 20 running Solaris 2.3 without problems. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 19:22:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04272; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:22:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22677; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:15:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22671; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:15:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiCHL-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 18:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcwizard@crl.com (David Reeve) Subject: Pine question:Auto-Answer ???? Date: 6 Sep 1994 18:27:56 -0700 Message-Id: <34j4us$7b6@crl.crl.com> Hello, I am trying to setup Pine to Auto-answer certain messages. So if someone sent me a message with the Subject: Apple Tree Pine would automatically send them a pre-determined document on apple trees. Likewise with other subjects... I believe that I need to edit/create a .forward file. Does anyone know how this is really done? Are there any disadvantages or known problems with this feature? Details appreciated. Thanks in advance. David Reeve pcwizard@crl.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 19:37:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04561; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:37:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18066; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:30:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18058; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:30:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiCV3-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mawa@sun9.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Martin Walter) Subject: pine 3.90 and sun mailtool Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:39:46 GMT Message-Id: <34i9h2$kb5@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Could anybody send me a MAILCAP file which enables pine to understand 'metamails' sent by solaris 2.3 mailtool? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Martin Walter | mawa@uni-freiburg.de | Disclaimer: All above | | Hermann-Herder-Str.10 | University CC | is my opinion unless | | D-79104 Freiburg | +49 761 203 4651 | specified otherwise. | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:15:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05208; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23413; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:10:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23407; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:10:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiD8A-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Sort Folder order Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There are not currently any options to alter the sort order of a Folder List, other than for news-collections. How would you want the folders ordered other than alphabetic? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Kevin J. Sinclair wrote: > > I understand in Pine how to sort the _message_ index within a folder. > > but what I want to do is sort the _folder_ index itself, and I can't see > how to do that. Can someone explain it to me? thanks, > > kevin > -- > Kevin > > Internet: kjs@computer.com > San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:20:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05424; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18719; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:15:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18709; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:15:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiDCO-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Select and skip forward. Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9409010944.AA18304@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9409010944.AA18304@LL.MIT.EDU> This is on the list for future consideration as an option... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > When I press D in the index it marks the message as Deleted and moves > down to the next message. Is it possible to have this happen when I do a > select current? Maybe make it an option? This would make it easier to > select a batch of messages that have nothing in common. > > Thanks. > > ========================================================================== > James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu > MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | > 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office > Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax > ========================================================================== > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:31:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05717; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:31:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23691; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:25:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23685; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiDMo-00000ZC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sambvca@hebron.connected.com (Paul Langelier) Subject: convertion Date: 6 Sep 1994 16:57:17 -0700 Message-Id: <34ivkt$7i3@gibeah.connected.com> Is there a way to convert or import an ascii file containing a large number of user's addresses into a pine list format? -- Paul Langelier - Computer Wave Newspaper - System Manager P.O. Box 19491 - Seattle, WA 98109 - paul@computerwave.com Bus (206) 284-5476 - Fax (206) 283-1020 http://computerwave.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:31:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05748; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:31:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18891; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18885; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:25:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiDNJ-00000bC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pinerc??? Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:54:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <347thc$2cr@crl2.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <347thc$2cr@crl2.crl.com> Is mail.crl.com configured as an IMAP server? Do you have inbox-path={mail.crl.com}INBOX (assuming that is where you recieve mail)? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Sep 1994, William M Davis wrote: > Could someone please help me with the proper syntax for constructing a > pinerc file for PcPine? My nntp server is nntp.crl.com & smtp is > mail.crl.com I am running the lastest version of Pine & Trumpet Winsock > V1.0a, I think:) After I estasblish the Slip connection and load Pine I > get several errors: ..nntp.. '] missing in context...I enclosed > nntp.crl.com in brackets and I think that took care of it, but I still > can't get Pine to find my INBOX or Folders on the Dial-up Server?? > > I have taken a wrong turn on the Information Superhighway;) could someone > please wash the windshield, check the air, and give me > directions:)))) > > Mike Davis > Lost in Time & Lost in Pine... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:32:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05780; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:32:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18915; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:27:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18909; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:27:14 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:00:57 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:00:56 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Reid Cameron Conti Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Yo all In-Reply-To: <34j484$8ur@gibeah.connected.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Sep 1994, Reid Cameron Conti wrote: > Problem with flagging.. I LOVE Pine 3.90.. Anyway, how do I move > multiple messages using flag? What flag command do I use (REad, deleted, > important), and then what is the command to move them to a different > folder? And do I *shudder* have to UNFLAG them after moving so I don't > accumulate flagged messages and keep moving the whole bunch to a folder > where I only need a few? Any help would be greatly appreciated. a reply > by email would be better, but you can reply here too.. IF its not too > flooded with other messages to find what I want.. > Thanks After you have used the ";" command to select a group of messages you can use the "A" command to apply an action to the selected group. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 20:32:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05824; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:32:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18922; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:27:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18916; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:27:19 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:05:34 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:05:33 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: David Reeve Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine question:Auto-Answer ???? In-Reply-To: <34j4us$7b6@crl.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Sep 1994, David Reeve wrote: > I am trying to setup Pine to Auto-answer certain messages. > So if someone sent me a message with the Subject: Apple Tree > Pine would automatically send them a pre-determined document on apple trees. > Likewise with other subjects... > > I believe that I need to edit/create a .forward file. Does anyone > know how this is really done? Are there any disadvantages or known > problems with this feature? Details appreciated. Thanks in advance. Well, what you want to do is not done by pine. And, FYI, the .forward file is restricted to use with pine since the .forward has to do with "sendmail". Look into using the package known as "procmail" A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 21:01:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06570; Tue, 6 Sep 94 21:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24150; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:55:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24144; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:55:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiDrX-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: user-domain Date: 6 Sep 1994 23:29:22 GMT Message-Id: <34iu0i$msg@news.halcyon.com> References: I'm also having problems with my user-domain being used in the To line when I don't want it to be used. Here's my situation... I have my own domain name (ii.com) and a company (The Internet Company) that forwards mail sent to anything@ii.com to nancym@halcyon.com. So, I want my From line to always say: From: Nancy McGough But whenever I send mail to anyone without specifying a domain I want Pine to first check my addressbook and then if that name isn't in my addressbook I want Pine to either leave the name alone (i.e., don't add a domain name) or add the domain halcyon.com. So, for example, if I send mail to support I want the To line to look like one of these: To: support To: support@halcyon.com I've tried all combinations of user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch and use-only-domain-name and I always get the following: To: support@ii.com Any ideas on how I can get the behavior I want? Thanks, Nancy -- \ / Nancy McGough - OO - Infinite Ink / \ ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 21:16:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06938; Tue, 6 Sep 94 21:16:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19561; Tue, 6 Sep 94 21:11:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19551; Tue, 6 Sep 94 21:11:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiE3c-00000cC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: susana@co.dona-ana.nm.us (susan h allen) Subject: Re: Connecting to NNTP Server Date: 7 Sep 1994 00:35:13 GMT Message-Id: <34j1s1$5tu@dns1.NMSU.Edu> References: In article , David L Miller says: > > >Try using "*{server/nntp:port}[*]" in the news-collections specification... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > >> Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on >> the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in >> the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). >> Thank You >> >> Joshua Hosseinoff >> hosseino@yu1.yu.edu >> >> >> Wouldn't you handle this in /etc/services? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 22:14:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08251; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:14:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20348; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:07:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias_129_179_30_16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20342; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:07:53 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:05:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:05:17 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: susan h allen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Connecting to NNTP Server In-Reply-To: <34j1s1$5tu@dns1.NMSU.Edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Sep 1994, susan h allen wrote: > In article , David L Miller says: > > > > > >Try using "*{server/nntp:port}[*]" in the news-collections specification... > > > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > >On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > > > >> Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on > >> the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in > >> the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). > >> Thank You > >> > >> Joshua Hosseinoff > >> hosseino@yu1.yu.edu > >> > >> > >> > Wouldn't you handle this in /etc/services? No. The /etc/services file would be used in setting up the server side. Since pine is a client....you would do it as David indicated. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 22:35:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08769; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:35:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25529; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:27:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25523; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:27:10 -0700 Received: from rac9.wam.umd.edu (rac9.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.8]) by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id BAA28468 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 01:27:06 -0400 Received: (highway@localhost) by rac9.wam.umd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id BAA22841; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 01:23:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 01:23:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Subject: Sorry ... REPOST with details. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry about the previous brief message regarding ^O function. Here's the jist. I compiled two different versions of PINE ... one for Sparcstations 1(+) running SunOS4.13 and the other is for 486 running Linux 0.99pl13. Now, the ^O function works fine on the SunOS ... but it doesn't work on the Linux. Is it possible that the feature was forgotten on the lnx-os.h files? Basically, I'm able to toggle the ^O function on the SunOS but when I hit the same keys on for the pine on LINUX .. nothing. I hope this is a better detailed problem reporting? John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* | WWW - http://www.wam.umd.edu/~highway (daily modifications) | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 23:17:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09799; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:17:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26247; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:11:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26241; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:11:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiFvN-00000aC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 22:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamesd@teleport.com (James Deibele) Subject: Way to force "jamesd" to "jamesd@teleport.com" in reply? Date: 6 Sep 1994 21:52:41 -0700 Message-Id: <34jgup$hm7@claudia.teleport.com> We've installed 3.90 and it seems like a solid release. One problem that I have is that we have a small cluster of user machines. A user might use any one of 4 machines. When doing a reply to another user who uses pine, the reply is fine. When doing a reply to a user who uses elm or Mail, the reply is not fine - when a user on the same system is involved, these programs give as the return address. Pine (and some other programs) give as the return address. Pine fills in the address as "jamesd@machine.teleport.com" which is not a valid address. "machine" is filled in with whichever machine the user happens to be on. We'd like to force pine to append "@teleport.com" when confronted with . This is the same behavior that Mail and elm have. We have the following set in "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf". # Domain name you are in e.g. nwnet.net, cac.washington.edu, bwc.org user-domain=teleport.com # Eliminate host part from hostname, using only domain part for domain name use-only-domain-name=yes Those two settings do NOT show up in the user's .pinerc even when the user invokes pine for the first time. I feel that they should and I'm concerned that pine reads the user's .pinerc and sees the empty fields on some options and unsets them. However even after setting the options in .pinerc we still have the same problem with the machine name showing up if there's not a FQDN on the address. Is there a way to force "jamesd" to be read as "jamesd@teleport.com"? Thanks. -- jamesd@teleport.com "4107 newsgroups & nothing on ..." Full internet (ftp, telnet, irc, ppp) available. Voice: (503) 223-4245 Portland: (503) 220-1016 2400, N81. Login as "new" to setup an account. Vancouver: (206) 260-0330 Salem: (503) 364-2028 FAX: (503) 223-4372 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Sep 6 23:51:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10535; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21765; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:46:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21759; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:46:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiGST-00000YC; Tue, 6 Sep 94 23:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djb@sol.acs.unt.edu (Douglas J. Bateman) Subject: Re: Bug in Pine 3.90 Date: 7 Sep 94 03:46:02 GMT Message-Id: References: I've got the same problem building 3.90 on SunOS 4.1.2 compatible box. Found a workaround after sweating bullets, THEN I found a possible answer in the post by Alain Robiete(sp?) subj: Abort problem on Solaris. Has to do with adding a particular string-handling parameter to GCCs commandline and recompiling. Can't wait to see if I could have saved myself hours of tracking down a workaround! :-( Oh, wait! I'm paid by the hour! :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 02:48:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14984; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:48:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29285; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:41:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29279; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:41:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiJET-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hannu@profix.sypress.fi (Hannu Matala) Subject: Problems with ^X under PW sethost emulator Date: 7 Sep 1994 08:53:10 GMT Message-Id: <34jv1m$h12@idefix.eunet.fi> When using sethost-terminal emulator over CTERM to Ultrix 4.3 host and using Pine 3.89, sending with ^X don't work at all ! Has anyone noticed this thing and corrected it ? Please answer by mail, since I usually don't follow this newsgroup. Hannu -- ------------------------------------------------------- Hannu Matala SyPress Oy Ahjotie 1 90150 Oulu, Finland tel. +358-81-53 77 632 FAX: +358-81-53 77 650 Hannu.Matala@sypress.fi ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 03:03:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15281; Wed, 7 Sep 94 03:03:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24366; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24360; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:56:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiJUl-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 02:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giles@fisonssurf.co.uk (Richard Giles) Subject: SVR4 and pine won't compile, help! Date: 7 Sep 1994 09:36:39 GMT Message-Id: <34k1j7$3i8@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> I am trying to compile Pine on an ICL DRS6000 machine. This runs SVR4 (version 7?). To Build pine I used: build sv4 It compiles fine until it reaches the Pine directory. Below is the output that Build gives. I have turned on extra debug info. from the compiler where this error is. It complains about 'system' and 'rename' being redeclared. Has anybody else seen this problem and know of a fix. Otherwise, I will have to do some serious digging. Output from "Build sv4": ======================== make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library and mtest `mtest' is up to date. Making Imapd cd ../c-client;make `mtest' is up to date. cc -I../c-client `cat ../c-client/CFLAGS` -o imapd imapd.o ../c-client/c-client.a `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Making Pico Making Pine. cc -H -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c /headers.h /usr/include/stdio.h /os.h /usr/include/pwd.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/select.h /usr/include/stdio.h /usr/include/sys/wait.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/siginfo.h /usr/include/sys/procset.h /usr/include/sys/stat.h /usr/include/sys/time.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/time.h /usr/include/fcntl.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/netdb.h /usr/include/time.h /usr/include/sys/time.h /usr/include/signal.h /usr/include/sys/signal.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/procset.h /usr/include/sys/param.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /../c-client/mail.h /../c-client/osdep.h /usr/include/string.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/stdlib.h "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 94: identifier redeclared: system /usr/include/dirent.h /usr/include/sys/dirent.h /usr/include/fcntl.h /usr/include/unistd.h /usr/include/sys/unistd.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/types.h "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 121: identifier redeclared: rename /usr/include/time.h /usr/include/sys/utime.h /usr/include/sys/types.h /usr/include/sys/uio.h /../c-client/rfc822.h /usr/include/ctype.h /usr/include/errno.h /usr/include/sys/errno.h /usr/include/setjmp.h /pine.h /context.h /helptext.h /adrbklib.h "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 250006 + 21440 + 3020 = 274466 bin/imapd: 250706 + 21856 + 11028 = 283590 bin/pico: 110073 + 26412 + 22912 = 159397 Done Richard ------------------------------------------ Richard Giles (Data Systems Dept.) Fisons Surface Systems (was VG Scientific) Tel. (+044) 342 327211 Fax. (+044) 342 315074 EMail: giles@fisonssurf.co.uk or richard@vgscient.demon.co.uk (backup only) Compuserve: 100065,132 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 04:29:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18170; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00949; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00943; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiKoN-00000ZC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: pine 3.0 performance Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:09:45 +0100 (WET DST) Message-Id: References: <34i7uv$hud@mrnews.mro.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34i7uv$hud@mrnews.mro.dec.com> On 6 Sep 1994, Christofer deHahn wrote: > Of course, if you have a remote NNTPSERVER and use Pine for news, the > response slows dramatically. I don't use Pine for news because of this. > > Chris I am reading news from a remote machine and I can't say it is so "dramatically" slow. Actually, works fine. Maybe you have a poor link with the news server? Mihai L. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 04:30:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18231; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:30:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25713; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25707; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiKoJ-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Subject: Re: Supported terminal types Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:52:42 +0100 (WET DST) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Yours Truly wrote: > Will someone please help with the following question from a Pine 3.89 user? > > Thanks! > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > What valid terminal types, other than vt100, are valid for use with > pine/pico? pine/pico didn't like vt220. Try specifying your terminal as vt200 or even vt100. Mihai L. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 04:30:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18233; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:30:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00941; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00935; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:23:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiKnz-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jpll@vectorbd.com (Jim Lill) Subject: Unix Piping Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 20:53:56 GMT Message-Id: How can I control the enable-unix-pipe-cmd state> I mostly want it OFF for most users as they are in a shell. I've thought I understood pine.conf.fixed but I guess not! Tnx.... -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jim Lill / Vector Board BBS \ jpll@vectorbd.com \ 716-544-1863/2645 / wa2zkd@wb2psi.#wny.usa.na GEnie: ZKD From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 04:41:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18591; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:41:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25840; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:31:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25832; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:31:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiKxW-00000aC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: Re: PINE on HP 735 Workstation Date: 7 Sep 1994 07:55:27 GMT Message-Id: <34jrlf$1dp4@ctsc.hkbc.hk> References: <34f5ar$37i@cnj.digex.net> Paul Mayerowitz] (mayer@cnj.digex.net) wrote: > We would like to run PINE on a HP 735 workstation running HP-UX version > 9.04. Does anyone know where we can obtain a clean copy copy of the > source code or a compiled version of the code? Thank you. Try to see the HP archive centre at U.K., U.S. or France. The URL is U.K.: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk Germany : hpux.ask.uni.karisruhe.de US : ftp.cae.wisc.edu France : hpux.cict.fr ftp://hpux9/Users/pine-3.90.tar.gz Regards, -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 04:49:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18811; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:49:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25991; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:42:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ilium.troy.msen.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25985; Wed, 7 Sep 94 04:42:15 -0700 Received: from boozsh by ilium.troy.msen.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qiLNG-0002nXC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:41 EDT Received: from fugu.frc.com by boozsh.frc.com with smtp (Smail3.1.27.1 #2) id m0qiLHd-0006zcC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:35 EDT Received: by fugu.frc.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA12202; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:35:21 EDT Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 07:35:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Syed A. Nabi" Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig To: Mauricio Araujo , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 6 Sep 1994, Syed A. Nabi wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:54:25 -0400 (EDT) > From: Syed A. Nabi > To: Mauricio Araujo > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig > > Sep 1994, Mauricio Araujo wrote: > > > Date: 6 Sep 1994 08:33:31 -0500 > > From: Mauricio Araujo > > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: .sig, .sig, .sig > > > > Rob Bidleman (robbee@crl.com) wrote: > > : I have waited several weeks before reposting this...I still can't get my > > : .sig to get added at the END of my replies. > > > > In the configuration of Pine there is an option to put your ".signature" > > file at the end of your replies. > > -- > > > > > > > > ============================================================================= > > Opinions not necessarily those of the author ;) > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > > Try the following in your .pinerc > > # Name of file to read signature out of for inclusion in outgoing mail > signature-file=/pde1/nabisa/.signature ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Opps! Obviously this should be the place where your .signature file resides. > > feature-list=old-growth, > signature-at-bottom > > That will work. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Syed A. Nabi | Internet : nabisa@frc.com | sanabi@vela.acs.oakland.edu FANUC Robotics North America, Inc. | BITNET : SANABI@OAKLAND 2000 S. Adams Road | Voice : +1 (810) 377-7718 Auburn Hills, MI-48326 | +1 (810) 589-3402 | Fax : +1 (810) 377-7363 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 06:29:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21720; Wed, 7 Sep 94 06:29:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02719; Wed, 7 Sep 94 06:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02713; Wed, 7 Sep 94 06:23:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiMdS-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 06:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giles@fisonssurf.co.uk (Richard Giles) Subject: Re: SVR4 and pine won't compile, help! Date: 7 Sep 1994 12:48:17 GMT Message-Id: <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> References: <34k1j7$3i8@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> OOPs, forgot to mention, I have pine distribution 3.85. Is there a newer vsersion? Richard ------------------------------------------ Richard Giles (Data Systems Dept.) Fisons Surface Systems (was VG Scientific) Tel. (+044) 342 327211 Fax. (+044) 342 315074 EMail: giles@fisonssurf.co.uk or richard@vgscient.demon.co.uk (backup only) Compuserve: 100065,132 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 07:29:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23372; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:29:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03517; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:17:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03511; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:17:26 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00761; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:17:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 07:17:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Alex Nishri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: INBOX locked by other process? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alex, Mark tells me that he fixed the bug you described some time ago, so the current distribution should be setting protections on the lockfiles correctly. -teg On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Alex Nishri wrote: > In article <34icho$ahc@herald.indirect.com>, > Mike Howerton wrote: > >Today, out of the blue, I am getting an error when I attempt to start Pine. > > > >The error is... > >'can't open folder lock, access is readonly' > >'folder is open by another process, access is readonly' > > > >I get this on both my INBOX folder and my sent-mail folder. > > > >I checked and my sent-mail folder is both read and write enabled. > > > > > >The only thing I can think of that changed is that I untarred a file to > >my /tmp directory last week and hadn't ran Pine since then. > > > >I went back and deleted the files that came from the Tar but that didn't > >correct the problem. > > > > > >Any ideas?? > > You didn't specify if you were using imap to access folders. We were getting > this problem with imapd 3.3 because there was a problem with its "kiss of > death" routine. The first time you connected to your mailbox the imap > process created a lockfile in /tmp containing its process-id; unfortunately > the lockfile was marked unreadable by all other processes. If you tried to > access the same folder concurrently from another Pine or ECSMail, the second > imap couldn't read the file in /tmp and hence couldn't signal the first imap > to let go of the lock. I don't believe this was fixed in imapd 3.4, but > perhaps someone else knows better. (We have a non-standard fix on.) > > Alex Nishri > University of Toronto > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 08:13:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24581; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:13:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04217; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:59:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04205; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:59:39 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01501; Wed, 7 Sep 94 07:59:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 07:59:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com Cc: susan h allen , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Connecting to NNTP Server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ed, There was an inadvertent transposition of port and flag in David's posting. So, per the author of that section of code: > The spec for .pinerc is: *{:/nntp}[] > e.g. *{news.foo.bar:123/nntp}[] Alternatively, for the nntp-server variable, just add the ":port" to the end, e.g. nntp-server=news.foo.bar:123 This is needed for posting, and will also take care of newsreading in the default case, where you don't specify any news-collections separately. Note that you need to restart Pine for a change in port specification to take effect, even though Pine doesn't tell you that. -teg On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 7 Sep 1994, susan h allen wrote: > > > David L Miller says: > > > > > >Try using "*{server/nntp:port}[*]" in the news-collections specification... > > > > > >On Thu, 1 Sep 1994, Joshua Hosseinoff wrote: > > > > > >> Is there a way to tell pine to connect to an NNTP server that is not on > > >> the usual port 119? I can't figure out the proper way to configure in > > >> the .pinerc (if there is a way to do so). > > >> Thank You > > >> > > Wouldn't you handle this in /etc/services? > > No. The /etc/services file would be used in setting up the > server side. Since pine is a client....you would do it as David indicated. > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 08:35:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25495; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:35:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29364; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:23:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29358; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:23:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiOXw-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 08:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Re: Sort Folder order Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 14:31:12 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : There are not currently any options to alter the sort order of a Folder List, : other than for news-collections. How would you want the folders ordered : other than alphabetic? : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA : On Mon, 5 Sep 1994, Kevin J. Sinclair wrote: : > : > I understand in Pine how to sort the _message_ index within a folder. : > : > but what I want to do is sort the _folder_ index itself, and I can't see : > how to do that. Can someone explain it to me? thanks, : > : > kevin : > -- : > Kevin : > : > Internet: kjs@computer.com : > San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) : > : > -- Kevin Internet: kjs@computer.com San Carlos, CA (near San Francisco) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 09:26:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28448; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:26:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06334; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:18:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from class.class.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06326; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:18:33 -0700 Received: (from malcor@localhost) by class.class.org (8.6.8/8.6.6) id JAA08516; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:18:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Malcor Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am running on an RS/6000 980 using AIX 3.2.4ish. Nothing too unsusal, but when I do the exact same steps as you detail below I get an appended message not an overwrite. On Tue, 6 Sep 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 6 Sep 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > > > Seems the option to "O"verwrite and existing file from the message "E"xport > > function does and Append instead. Am I alone in this bug? > > A simple test here: > > 1. Export message to new file. > > 2. Export another message to same file. > > 3. Choose Overwrite. > > 4. Worked fine here..... > > Can you supply more details on your environment? > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 10:06:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00742; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:06:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01601; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01595; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:57:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiQ0i-00000hC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pinef 3.90 and terminfo Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:13:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <34f727$46s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34f727$46s@sun2.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> The function key assignments in Pine are currently fixed. Neither terminfo nor termcap are consulted. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Sep 1994, Martin Walter wrote: > How can I get pine 3.90 to look into terminfo for > function key definitions? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > | Martin Walter | mawa@uni-freiburg.de | Disclaimer: All above | > | Hermann-Herder-Str.10 | University CC | is my opinion unless | > | D-79104 Freiburg | +49 761 203 4651 | specified otherwise. | > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 10:11:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00972; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07145; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:57:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07139; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:57:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiQ0e-00000fC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: SVR4 and pine won't compile, help! Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 09:09:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <34k1j7$3i8@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> 1. Get Pine 3.90 from ftp.cac.washington.edu. 2. Add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS line in pine/makefile.sv4 before building. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Sep 1994, Richard Giles wrote: > OOPs, forgot to mention, I have pine distribution 3.85. Is there a newer > vsersion? > > Richard > > ------------------------------------------ > Richard Giles (Data Systems Dept.) > Fisons Surface Systems (was VG Scientific) > Tel. (+044) 342 327211 Fax. (+044) 342 315074 > EMail: giles@fisonssurf.co.uk > or richard@vgscient.demon.co.uk (backup only) > Compuserve: 100065,132 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 10:13:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01023; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:13:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07316; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:03:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07310; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:03:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiQ66-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 (in AIX?) Date: 7 Sep 1994 16:31:08 GMT Message-Id: <34kpsc$gp7@news.cerf.net> References: <34hskn$o2j@news.cerf.net> I am running AIX 3.2.4(ish). I have tried exactly the steps below and I still get an append. Sigh! It sounds like I am alone. Any other AIXers running Pine 3.90 out there want to test this? Ed Greshko (egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : On 6 Sep 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: : > Seems the option to "O"verwrite and existing file from the message "E"xport : > function does and Append instead. Am I alone in this bug? : A simple test here: : 1. Export message to new file. : 2. Export another message to same file. : 3. Choose Overwrite. : 4. Worked fine here..... : Can you supply more details on your environment? : Ed : Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce : Control Data Asia/Pacific Region : Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 : FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 10:44:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02774; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:44:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02437; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:35:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02431; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:35:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiQXu-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelsey@mdd.comm.mot.com (Joe Kelsey) Subject: Re: SVR4 and pine won't compile, help! Date: 7 Sep 1994 08:15:13 -0700 Message-Id: <34kle1$nm@bb10c.mdd.comm.mot.com> References: <34k1j7$3i8@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> In <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> giles@fisonssurf.co.uk (Richard Giles) writes: >OOPs, forgot to mention, I have pine distribution 3.85. Is there a newer >vsersion? Pine 3.90 is the latest version. I have some modifications to Pine's somewhat awkward SVR4 support. Whoever produced the original SVR4 port did it assuming a non-ANSI C compiler! I cannot really believe this since *all* C compilers for SVR4 that I know of support ANSI C (the AT&T compiler supports ANSI, gcc supports ANSI, etc.) Anywya, I have patches to convert the non-ANSI SVR4 Pine into ANSI. I plan to send them to the maintainers as soon as I get some spare time, hopefully by the end of the week. I'll try to post them here also. /Joe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 10:54:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03244; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:54:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02633; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:44:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02627; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:44:27 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa09131; 7 Sep 94 13:44 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA21116; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:44:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:44:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Daniel Malcor wrote: > > I am running on an RS/6000 980 using AIX 3.2.4ish. Nothing too unsusal, > but when I do the exact same steps as you detail below I get an appended > message not an overwrite. > I just tried the same test on my RS/6000 AIX 3.2.4 and got the same (wrong) results: choosing O(verwrite) Appends. > > > > A simple test here: > > > > 1. Export message to new file. > > > > 2. Export another message to same file. > > > > 3. Choose Overwrite. > > > > 4. Worked fine here..... > > - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 11:14:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04451; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:14:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08370; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08364; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:52:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiQrM-00000fC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 10:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx (Juan M. Courcoul) Subject: Can't build pine under VAX/Ultrix 4.3 Date: Wed, 07 Sep 1994 11:14:55 -0600 Message-Id: Sorry if this is a FAQ and sorry for the long post, but is there any gotchas in getting Pine 3.90 to build on a MicroVAX 3100 running Ultrix 4.3 (Rev. 44) ? I have tried to carry out the build, using the "vul" predefined configuration, with no success with regards to the pine executable. Since the standard cc didn't work, I tried with gcc, also installed on the machine, but that didn't work either. imap and pico build correctly with either compiler, though. Here are the corresponding failures: Like I mentioned, imap and pico do build correctly; what's more, imapd is now running happily on the machine (Stanford's Mailstrom provided an excellent testing base). First try, using standard cc: Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c addrbook.c "addrbook.c", line 7139: warning: illegal pointer combination "addrbook.c", line 7217: warning: illegal pointer combination "addrbook.c", line 7287: warning: illegal pointer combination "addrbook.c", line 7353: warning: illegal pointer combination "addrbook.c", line 7523: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c adrbklib.c "adrbklib.c", line 780: warning: illegal pointer combination "adrbklib.c", line 1393: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c args.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c context.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c filter.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c folder.c "folder.c", line 3955: warning: illegal pointer combination "folder.c", line 4025: warning: illegal pointer combination "folder.c", line 4089: warning: illegal pointer combination "folder.c", line 4143: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c help.c ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c helptext.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c imap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c init.c "init.c", line 2338: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailcap.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailcmd.c "mailcmd.c", line 4181: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailindx.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailpart.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailview.c "mailview.c", line 1916: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 1919: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 1920: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 1925: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 2016: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 2375: warning: illegal pointer combination "mailview.c", line 2602: warning: illegal pointer combination cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c newmail.c cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c other.c "other.c", line 588: warning: enumeration type clash, operator == "other.c", line 1746: illegal comparison of enums "other.c", line 1747: warning: enumeration type clash, operator = *** Error code 1 Stop. Second try, now using gcc 2.5.2 (this was done just changing "CC=gcc" in build; perhaps I need some extra options ?): Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-ult.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c addrbook.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from addrbook.c:65: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c adrbklib.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from adrbklib.c:53: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c args.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from args.c:59: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c context.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from context.c:44: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c filter.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from filter.c:78: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c folder.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from folder.c:69: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c help.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from help.c:59: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' ./cmplhelp.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.c gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c helptext.c gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c imap.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from imap.c:65: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' imap.c: In function `mm_log': imap.c:170: warning: passing arg 1 of `localtime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c init.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from init.c:80: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' init.c: In function `expire_sent_mail': init.c:3241: warning: passing arg 1 of `localtime' from incompatible pointer type init.c: In function `init_debug': init.c:3508: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailcap.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from mailcap.c:76: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailcmd.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from mailcmd.c:64: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' mailcmd.c: In function `cmd_export': mailcmd.c:2322: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailindx.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from mailindx.c:63: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailpart.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from mailpart.c:59: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c mailview.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from mailview.c:60: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c newmail.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from newmail.c:60: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c other.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from other.c:61: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c pine.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from pine.c:56: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c print.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from print.c:66: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c reply.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from reply.c:74: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' reply.c: In function `generate_message_id': reply.c:2091: warning: passing arg 1 of `localtime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c screen.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from screen.c:63: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c send.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from send.c:59: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c signals.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from signals.c:66: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' signals.c: In function `do_suspend': signals.c:348: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type signals.c:367: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c status.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from status.c:62: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' status.c: In function `display_message': status.c:416: warning: passing arg 1 of `ctime' from incompatible pointer type gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c strings.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from strings.c:79: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c ttyin.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from ttyin.c:64: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c ttyout.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from ttyout.c:88: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' cd osdep; make includer os-ult.c; cd .. gcc -o includer includer.c ./includer < os-ult.ic > os-ult.c rm -f os.c ln -s osdep/os-ult.c os.c gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -c os.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:45, from headers.h:78, from os.c:112: /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:68: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:78: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:79: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' /usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/vax-dec-ultrix4.3/2.5.2/include/string.h:85: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c gcc -c -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" date.c gcc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"VUL\" -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib Undefined: _authenticate_user collect2: ld returned 1 exit status *** Error code 1 Stop. Muchas gracias in advance for your kind help. -- Juan M. Courcoul courcoul@itesmcq1.qro.itesm.mx Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey Campus Queretaro From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 11:14:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04463; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:14:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03032; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:03:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nic.hq.cic.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03026; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:03:03 -0700 Received: (from holbrook@localhost) by nic.hq.cic.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA28268; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 14:01:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 14:01:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Holbrook To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: using mbox driver - any other steps needed? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A recent message noted that you can now build 3.90 with the mbox driver by adding mboxdriver as a parameter to the BUILD line. I tried doing that, and I have a zero length mbox file in my home directory, but pine isn't moving the mail from /var/spool/mail into that file. Is there anything else I have to do? J. Paul Holbrook CICNet Network Services Manager holbrook@cic.net (313) 998-7680 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 11:57:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06522; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:57:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04253; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:50:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04245; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:50:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiRep-00000sC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Don C. Miller) Subject: default-composer-hdrs Date: 7 Sep 1994 17:52:57 GMT Message-Id: <34kulp$akl@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> I have my default-composer-hdrs set to default-composer-hdrs=To:,Bcc:,Attchmnt:,Subject and it gives me an error message saying: No default-composer-hdrs match displaying defaults and it gives me the old ones! What am I or it doing wrong. I manually edited .pinerc and used the config option in setup!!! Acckkkkk. -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ mill9372@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# donm@aspen.csrv.uidaho.edu #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# mille932@novell.uidaho.edu ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:01:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06901; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09915; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:54:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09904; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:54:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiRoN-00000tC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Waggoner Subject: Q: Subj/OrdSubj diff? Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 21:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I apoligize if this is a FAQ but can someone explain the difference between the Subject sort and the OrderedSubject sort? From my untrained eye the OS sort just messes everything up. Bill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:03:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07230; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:03:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09979; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:57:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09973; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:56:58 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA23745; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:38:25 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 08:18:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Swap key ^X ? To: Anto Daryanto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 6 Sep 1994, Anto Daryanto wrote: > is possible to swap send-key to another key, I often press ^C to send > mail instead of ^X. This has been brought up before; the answer has always been "No." ;{(. Not only does the "X" key proximity to the "C" key lead one to often press "Ctrl-C" when they mean "Ctrl-X" [and of course you ALWAYS follow "Ctrl-X" with "y" as a matter of habit... ;{(!] but those people used to EMACS REALLY have to be careful because "Ctrl-X Ctrl-C" is the "exit" command in EMACS. Sigh... Pine is a great product, and in despite of this annoyance I use it constantly. *THANKS* to the Pine development team for making such a useful utility available! I would ask them, however, to reconsider their stand on programmable keys... At least on SOME programmable keys??? :{) Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:06:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07313; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:06:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04472; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:59:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04462; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:59:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiRsz-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: default-composer-hdrs Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 11:16:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <34kulp$akl@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <34kulp$akl@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Pine 3.90 has a bug that does not allow ':' in the default-composer-hdrs... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Sep 1994, Don C. Miller wrote: > I have my default-composer-hdrs set to > default-composer-hdrs=To:,Bcc:,Attchmnt:,Subject > and it gives me an error message saying: > No default-composer-hdrs match displaying defaults > and it gives me the old ones! What am I or it doing wrong. I manually > edited .pinerc and used the config option in setup!!! > > Acckkkkk. > > -- > Don Miller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu > :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu > +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ mill9372@uidaho.edu > +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ don_miller@uidaho.edu > +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# donm@aspen.csrv.uidaho.edu > #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# mille932@novell.uidaho.edu > ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:16:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07733; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:16:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04732; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:09:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04726; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:09:07 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09474; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:09:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Don C. Miller" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: default-composer-hdrs In-Reply-To: <34kulp$akl@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There's a bug in 3.90 where the colons confuse Pine. This will be fixed in 3.91, but the work-around is to delete the colons. -teg On 7 Sep 1994, Don C. Miller wrote: > I have my default-composer-hdrs set to > default-composer-hdrs=To:,Bcc:,Attchmnt:,Subject > and it gives me an error message saying: > No default-composer-hdrs match displaying defaults > and it gives me the old ones! What am I or it doing wrong. I manually > edited .pinerc and used the config option in setup!!! > > Acckkkkk. > > -- > Don Miller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu > :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu > +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ mill9372@uidaho.edu > +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ don_miller@uidaho.edu > +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# donm@aspen.csrv.uidaho.edu > #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# mille932@novell.uidaho.edu > ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:18:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07812; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:18:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04869; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:14:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04863; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:14:05 -0700 Received: from gollum.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA18103; Wed, 7 Sep 94 15:12:18 EDT Received: from bard.ttd.teradyne.com by gollum.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.47/gollum-1.1) id AA16867; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:13:58 CDT Received: by bard.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03391; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:13:57 CDT Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 14:13:57 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: newbie imap/pcpine problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am successfully running PINE on 4 unix machines(HP-UX V8.0, 2 SunOS 4.1.3 and linux (debian) kernel 0.99.14. Since I like PINE so well on the unix boxes, I thought it might be nice to offer this to some of our users that use PCs for the most part and have no need (other than mail) to log into either our VAX(yuk) or a unix box. Enter PC-PINE and imapd. The PCs are running Pathwork's V4.1 for DecNet and Trumpet's winsock.dll for TCP/IP under windows. I know that the winsock.dll is working because I can use xwin, wftpd, winftp32 and WinMosaic which all use winsock. The problem I see when I start PC-PINE is Can't connect to livingstone.ttd.teradyne.com:143: Refused 10061 I have done a little work in an attempt to see if things are setup correctly. In /etc/inetd.conf I added the following line: imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/local/bin/imapd imapd and in /etc/services I added: imap 143/tcp On one of the unix systems I modified my configuration so that my inbox is inbox-path = {livingstone.ttd.teradyne.com}/usr/spool/mail/kenny With this done, I get connected to my inbox fine from the unix box. I have taken that .pinerc file and used it with PCPINE and I get the same error message. I assume that I must be missing something very simple. Can someone please point this out? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (kenny@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 12:32:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08324; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:32:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05059; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05053; Wed, 7 Sep 94 12:25:43 -0700 Received: from desiree.teleport.com (desiree.teleport.com [192.108.254.11]) by teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA07558 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:25:39 -0700 Received: by parr.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA182073; Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:02:48 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy McNiece To: Dan Malcor-LA Times Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 (in AIX?) In-Reply-To: <34kpsc$gp7@news.cerf.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ran the same test here. The overwrite actually appends. _____________________________________________________________________________ Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com 219 SW 185th Avenue Phone 503-645-1188 Aloha, Oregon USA Fax 503-629-8635 On 7 Sep 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > I am running AIX 3.2.4(ish). I have tried exactly the steps below and I > still get an append. Sigh! It sounds like I am alone. Any other AIXers running > Pine 3.90 out there want to test this? > > Ed Greshko (egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: > : On 6 Sep 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > : > Seems the option to "O"verwrite and existing file from the message "E"xport > : > function does and Append instead. Am I alone in this bug? > : A simple test here: > : 1. Export message to new file. > : 2. Export another message to same file. > : 3. Choose Overwrite. > : 4. Worked fine here..... > : Can you supply more details on your environment? > : Ed > : Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > : Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > : Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > : FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > -- > ====================================================================== > Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems > Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 13:42:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11789; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:42:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12154; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:29:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12148; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:29:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiTJX-00000aC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lou@ncinfo (Lou Sortman) Subject: I need a simple DOS mail client that speaks SMTP Date: 7 Sep 1994 19:53:50 GMT Message-Id: <34l5oe$13s8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> The simpler, the better. Something like plain UNIX mail would be great, but I need to do this under DOS. I looked at Pine, but I can't fudge it into a pseudo-batch mode. Any ideas? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 13:58:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12507; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:58:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12505; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:42:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12499; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:42:15 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12685; Wed, 7 Sep 94 13:41:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 13:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: user-domain In-Reply-To: <34iu0i$msg@news.halcyon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nancy, There is a compile-time option to enable you to tweak the From: line via the custom-headers variable. (And, less elegantly, there is always Reply-To) -teg On 6 Sep 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'm also having problems with my user-domain being used in the To line > when I don't want it to be used. Here's my situation... > > I have my own domain name (ii.com) and a company (The Internet Company) > that forwards mail sent to anything@ii.com to nancym@halcyon.com. So, > I want my From line to always say: > > From: Nancy McGough > > But whenever I send mail to anyone without specifying a domain I want > Pine to first check my addressbook and then if that name isn't in > my addressbook I want Pine to either leave the name alone (i.e., > don't add a domain name) or add the domain halcyon.com. So, for > example, if I send mail to support I want the To line to look like > one of these: > > To: support > To: support@halcyon.com > > I've tried all combinations of user-lookup-even-if-domain-mismatch and > use-only-domain-name and I always get the following: > > To: support@ii.com > > > Any ideas on how I can get the behavior I want? > > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > \ / Nancy McGough > - OO - Infinite Ink > / \ ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 14:59:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:59:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13940; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:45:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13934; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:45:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiUSq-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kylemill@crl.com (Kyle A. Miller) Subject: TIA and PC Pine 3.9--WORKS?? Date: 7 Sep 1994 20:50:34 GMT Message-Id: <34l92q$920@nntp.crl.com> Has anyone been able to get PC Pine 3.9 to work with CRL and TIA? I can't get the mail or newsreader to work. I need an IMAP server address along with an INBOX path. For the newsreader, I tried to get a list of the newsgroups by expanding to list them, but nothing happens. There is a little communication, but that's it. Nothing else. It says I should hit there again to re-expand. Help! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 14:59:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15126; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08340; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:45:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08332; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:45:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiUSn-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 14:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: selby@lenti.med.umn.edu (Scott Selby (Med Heme)) Subject: .sig file problems Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 20:42:30 GMT Help! I'm having problems with my .sig file. It looks jumbled to anyone who is using PopMail. What's the answer? -- ============================================================================== (86098)o%:%o9 || Scott A. Selby 6098)o%:::%o(860 ==== University of Minnesota 098)o%:::%o(8609 | |__ Department of Medicine/Hematology 6o%:%o(86098) | |-.\ Box 480 UMHC/ 14-157 PWB (86098)o |__| \\ 516 Delaware Street Southeast 6098)o%::%o9 || || Minneapolis, MN 55455 098)o%::::::%o9 ======__| (612)624-7612 6o%::::::%o(860 ________||__ selby@lenti.med.umn.edu 6o%::%o(8609 /____________\ o(86098) (86098)o%:%o9 ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 18:24:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23728; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:24:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12712; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:04:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eng.infinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12706; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:04:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 21:03:32 -400 (EDT) From: "Steven E. Frazier" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Numbers Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use to be able to have 50+ messages and if I wanted to go to message 5 I just typed "5" and it would go there, now it says it doesn't understand, any ideas how to get that feature back, please? Thanks. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 19:05:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24596; Wed, 7 Sep 94 19:05:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19321; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:55:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19315; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:55:28 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:33:34 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 23:33:33 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: "Mihai T. LAZARESCU" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.0 performance In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Mihai T. LAZARESCU wrote: > On 6 Sep 1994, Christofer deHahn wrote: > > > Of course, if you have a remote NNTPSERVER and use Pine for news, the > > response slows dramatically. I don't use Pine for news because of this. > > > > Chris > > I am reading news from a remote machine and I can't say it is so > "dramatically" slow. Actually, works fine. Maybe you have a poor link > with the news server? I concur. I have a 64KB link to my newserver. Tin and pine are equally "fast", Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 19:05:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24619; Wed, 7 Sep 94 19:05:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19335; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:56:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19329; Wed, 7 Sep 94 18:55:58 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:38:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 23:38:03 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Richard Giles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SVR4 and pine won't compile, help! In-Reply-To: <34kcqh$7tm@netserver.fisonssurf.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Sep 1994, Richard Giles wrote: > OOPs, forgot to mention, I have pine distribution 3.85. Is there a newer > vsersion? Yes! Pine is now at 3.90. Please grab it from ftp.cac.washington.edu and try to compile. Some of the errors are similar to what I'm seeing on a MIPS machine. Maybe when you fix it on your machine you'll fix my problem as well. :-) :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 20:19:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26156; Wed, 7 Sep 94 20:19:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20568; Wed, 7 Sep 94 20:13:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20562; Wed, 7 Sep 94 20:13:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiZfM-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 19:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: How do you put a comma in a custom header? Date: 7 Sep 1994 22:03:29 GMT Message-Id: <34ldbh$nuh@news.halcyon.com> References: <3453at$alr@news.halcyon.com> Nancy McGough writes: >How do I put a comma in a custom header? For example, I want to >have the following: > >Organization: Infinite Ink, Seattle, Washington, USA > >Unfortunately Pine interprets the comma as the place to break the >line. I tried escaping it with backslash (\,) but that didn't >work. I just figured out one way to do this so I'll answer my own question. You can use environment variables so for this example I put the following in my .login: setenv ORGANIZATION "Infinite Ink, Seattle, Washington, USA" And then in my .pinerc put: customized-hdrs=Organization: $ORGANIZATION Hope this is useful to others, Nancy (loving Pine 3.90!) -- \ / Nancy McGough - OO - Infinite Ink / \ ftp://ftp.ii.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 21:09:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27079; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:09:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15091; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15085; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:03:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiaQT-00000YC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 20:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: terryc@io.org (Terry Chambers) Subject: Pine and no access to my remote mail Date: 7 Sep 1994 21:19:40 -0400 Message-Id: <34lorc$1eo@ionews.io.org> I have installed Pine 3.90 on my Linux system. My internet service allows me to use SLIP to connect. I am able to connect via SLIP and do everything using Microsoft Windows. Since I moved to Linux and Pine 3.90, I am unable to retrieve my mail from my remote mailbox. I can telnet, ftp, read news (via Pine 3.90) ... The system is set up with a specific mail server ... mail.io.org On my Linux system, I log in as terryc, the same name as my account at the service. In .pinerc, I have my INBOX set for: {mail.io.org}inbox When I try to retrieve my mail, I get: Connection refused, 143. My friend, using another service provider can easily retrieve his mail. The administrator at my site says the problem is *mine* and not his. I have my own server set up in my .rhosts file ... with my user name terryc. Does anyone have any ideas? Have any evidence I can use to convince the administrator that something is wrong on his end (if it is)? Any advice greatly appreciated ... Thanks ... Terry -- -- Terry Chambers * North York, Ontario * terryc@io.org * tchambers@trentu.ca http://www.io.org/~terryc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 21:14:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27275; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:14:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21462; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:11:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21456; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:11:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qiaUX-00000NC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rajesh Raj Subject: Controlling distribution of article in Pine 3.90 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 08:23:21 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I specify the distribution of an article while posting to a newsgroup ? Raj rxr401@leonard.anu.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 21:40:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27787; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:40:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21807; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:37:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21801; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:37:19 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24303; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:37:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 1994 21:37:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Terry Chambers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and no access to my remote mail In-Reply-To: <34lorc$1eo@ionews.io.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Sep 1994, Terry Chambers wrote: > In .pinerc, I have my INBOX set for: {mail.io.org}inbox > > When I try to retrieve my mail, I get: > > Connection refused, 143. This is the key. This error almost always means that the host is not running an imap server. (IMAP uses port 143.) > My friend, using another service provider can easily retrieve his mail. > > The administrator at my site says the problem is *mine* and not his. Well, I suppose he could argue that it is your problem that you chose his service... :) The imapd code is available from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It's part of the pine distribution in /pine/pine.tar.Z, and there are also pre-compiled binaries in /pine/unix-bin -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 21:50:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27994; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:50:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15621; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from muwayb.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15615; Wed, 7 Sep 94 21:46:13 -0700 Received: from pioneer.mov.vic.gov.au (mov.gw.au) by muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (PMDF V4.2-14 #7200) id <01HGVFV00VLC000TCY@muwayb.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:37:03 +1000 Received: by pioneer.mov.vic.gov.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14085; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:36:49 +1100 Date: Thu, 08 Sep 1994 14:36:48 +1100 (E ) From: Burt Heymanson Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Daniel Malcor wrote: > > > I am running on an RS/6000 980 using AIX 3.2.4ish. Nothing too unsusal, > > but when I do the exact same steps as you detail below I get an appended > > message not an overwrite. > > I just tried the same test on my RS/6000 AIX 3.2.4 and got the same > (wrong) results: choosing O(verwrite) Appends. > > > > A simple test here: > > > 1. Export message to new file. > > > 2. Export another message to same file. > > > 3. Choose Overwrite. > > > 4. Worked fine here..... I have 3.2.4 running on an RS/6000 and I can't reproduce your problem - the overwrite facility is all hunky-dory. Looking for the common denominator: did you guys with the problem compile it yourselves or download the binary from the UoW? ---------- * Burt Heymanson * Museum of Victoria, Australia * * bheyman@pioneer.mov.vic.gov.au * Information Technology Services * * Phone: +61 3 651 6756 * Fax: +61 3 651 6180 * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 22:30:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28851; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:30:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16085; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:26:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16077; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:26:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qibio-00000hC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkl@csc.liv.ac.uk (Richard Lloyd) Subject: Re: PINE on HP 735 Workstation Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 09:48:46 GMT References: <34f5ar$37i@cnj.digex.net> In article <34f5ar$37i@cnj.digex.net>, mayer@cnj.digex.net (Paul Mayerowitz]) writes: > We would like to run PINE on a HP 735 workstation running HP-UX version > 9.04. Er, that should be either 9.03 or 9.05 for Series 700 machines :-) 9.04 is for the Series 800s. > Does anyone know where we can obtain a clean copy copy of the > source code or a compiled version of the code? Thank you. I don't know what you mean by "clean", but if you want a version that compiles smoothly with the HP-UX C compiler in ANSI mode [the authors avoided this because it gives out some telling compiler warnings :-) ], then you can pick it up from one of our official archive sites listed below as the file /hpux9/Users/pine-3.90.tar.gz. We keep .cln original versions so users can see exactly what we modified (find . -name '*.cln' gives the game way) and users can even reverse our changes by renaming the .cln files back to their original names. HP-UX Archive Librarian, E-mail queries: ftp@csc.liv.ac.uk Computer Science Dept., Official anonymous FTP sites (get /README first): Liverpool University, United Kingdom: hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk [NEW NAME !!!] United Kingdom. Germany: hpux.ask.uni-karlsruhe.de United States: ftp.cae.wisc.edu Not got xbrowser 1.4 yet ? France: hpux.cict.fr You'll find it in Official World Wide Web sites: /hpux9/X11R5/Networking United Kingdom: http://hpux.csc.liv.ac.uk/intro.html Unisted States: http://www.cae.wisc.edu/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 22:59:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29562; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:59:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22802; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:56:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22796; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:56:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qic7u-00000hC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cayz@kentnet.dtcc.edu (James Cayz) Subject: Re: Overwrite don't in 3.90 (in AIX?) Date: 8 Sep 1994 03:11:07 GMT Message-Id: <34lvcb$k10@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: <34kpsc$gp7@news.cerf.net> Overwrite _does_ work correctly here... IBM RS/6000 oslevel = >3.2.5 /bin/ksh pine v3.90 compiled by pine team for aix at 16:59:59 Aug 26 1994 PDT Maybe a V3.2.4 vs V3.2.5 problem? James From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 23:18:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00144; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:18:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16678; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16672; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:14:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qicRL-00000iC; Wed, 7 Sep 94 22:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkuo@violet.berkeley.edu (Henry Kuo) Subject: How to put Reply-To: in the header? Date: 8 Sep 1994 05:54:20 GMT Message-Id: <34m8uc$j2m@agate.berkeley.edu> As titile, is there way which I can setup that? Thanks!! =Henry= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Sep 7 23:59:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00965; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:59:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17199; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:55:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17193; Wed, 7 Sep 94 23:55:36 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 8 Sep 94 14:53:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 14:53:06 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Henry Kuo Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to put Reply-To: in the header? In-Reply-To: <34m8uc$j2m@agate.berkeley.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Sep 1994, Henry Kuo wrote: > As titile, is there way which I can setup that? From the Main Menu go to SetUp....then go to Configure.... Find the line that reads: customized-hdrs = Add what is needed.....something like.... customized-hdrs = Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 8 02:19:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04071; Thu, 8 Sep 94 02:19:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25320; Thu, 8 Sep 94 02:12:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25314; Thu, 8 Sep 94 02:12:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qif6p-00000hC; Thu, 8 Sep 94 01:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: darbel@techunix.technion.ac.il (dani) Subject: pc-pine: where to get it? Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 07:48:47 GMT Message-Id: Hi! where can i download pc-pine from? Thanks, Dani From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 8 03:24:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05325; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:24:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26089; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:18:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [144.32.128.13] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26083; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:17:57 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <22161-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:16:27 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA05076; Thu, 8 Sep 94 09:23:06 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 09:23:00 +0100 From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk To: "Scott Selby (Med Heme)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .sig file problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This problem is nothing at all to do with Pine but to do with: a) the way you have typed the text in to your .sig file, and b) possibly how PopMail has been set up (it would have helped to know which platform this was on). a) Assuming the signature file you're having problems with is the same as you used in your query (see below)... You have used a mixture of tabs and spaces in your signature. Not all programs "obey" tabs. Others so "obey" them (expand them) but don't use the "standard" multiple-of-8 tab stops. For example, TeachText on an Apple Macintosh doesn't honour tabs, but just displays them as the width of a space. You can help by getting rid of all the tabs from your signature file and replacing them with spaces. This MAY be all that's needed. b) The other problem may lie with the PopMail user and how they have configured PopMail. Your signature appears to be one of the "pretty" ones that tries to draw pictures using characters. This will only work if the font used to view the message is a mono-spaced (every character has the same width) font. If the user has set up PopMail to use a proportionally spaced font (eg, Times) then no matter what you do you will not be able to produce good looking pictures. (We run into this problem a lot with people trying to word process CV's using Times; they can't get columns lines up if they don't know how to use Tabs.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Wed, 7 Sep 1994, Scott Selby (Med Heme) wrote: > Help! I'm having problems with my .sig file. It looks jumbled to anyone > who is using PopMail. What's the answer? > > -- > ============================================================================== > (86098)o%:%o9 > || Scott A. Selby 6098)o%:::%o(860 > ==== University of Minnesota 098)o%:::%o(8609 > | |__ Department of Medicine/Hematology 6o%:%o(86098) > | |-.\ Box 480 UMHC/ 14-157 PWB (86098)o > |__| \\ 516 Delaware Street Southeast 6098)o%::%o9 > || || Minneapolis, MN 55455 098)o%::::::%o9 > ======__| (612)624-7612 6o%::::::%o(860 > ________||__ selby@lenti.med.umn.edu 6o%::%o(8609 > /____________\ o(86098) > (86098)o%:%o9 > ============================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 8 03:38:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05747; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:38:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19752; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:29:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from alias-129-179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19746; Thu, 8 Sep 94 03:29:46 -0700 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 8 Sep 94 18:27:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Sep 1994 18:27:11 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: dani Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pc-pine: where to get it? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 8 Sep 1994, dani wrote: > where can i download pc-pine from? from ftp.cac.washinton.edu in pine/pcpine See the PC-Pine.README file for information..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 8 04:36:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07590; Thu, 8 Sep 94 04:36:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20696; Thu, 8 Sep 94 04:28:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20690; Thu, 8 Sep 94 04:28:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qihLy-00000fC; Thu, 8 Sep 94 04:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jans@prudens.matematik.su.se (Jan Snellman) Subject: Descending directory hierarchys? Date: 08 Sep 1994 08:50:28 GMT Message-Id: Pine 3.90 follows symbolic links in the mail directory, which is very nice. If I create a symlink to a directory, I whish for pine to enter that directory when I select it from the Folders menu. Alas, it does not. I realise that I could flatten out the directory structure by creating symlinks to the individual files, but that would mean having more than 100 folders in the Folders menu. -- Jan Snellman : "Whenever you find that you are on the side of the jans@matematik.su.se : majority, it is time to reform." M T From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Sep 8 07:03:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10589; Thu, 8 Sep 94 07:03:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29289; Thu, 8 Sep 94 06:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@