From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 04:05:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24818; Mon, 1 Aug 94 04:05:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05287; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05281; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:56:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUumR-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 03:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 1 Aug 1994 08:50:30 GMT Message-Id: <31id0m$hjf@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Within its design center, IMAP offers technical advantages over all the : others. In comparison to POP, I'll just mention the following: : o Access to a mail store from multiple computers. : o Ability to selectively fetch individual MIME body parts. : o Ability to access multiple remote folders, not just INBOX. : o Ability to support disconnected operation. This cannot be touted enough. This is where IMAP really kills POP. Try reading a 2-Meg MIME messages over a 9k6 SLIP link with POP - can you say SLOW??? I knew you could ;-) Try reading a 2-Meg MIME message over IMAP - where you read the 10-line text part, and decide to leave the PostScript attachment on the server until you get back to the LAN. Can you say FAST? I still think all other work on IMAP should be stopped until the coffee-interface is finished... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 05:50:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26888; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:50:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19983; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:41:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19977; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:41:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUwNE-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 05:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: ^Z in PICO Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 11:36:27 GMT Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) btw my shell is tcsh... (and as long I don't see any .picorc probably I will need to edit my .login or my .cshrc) Thanks Shalom Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:00:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01614; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:00:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09415; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:50:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09409; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUzNQ-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccx009@rowan.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) Subject: elm aliases.text - > addressbook Date: 1 Aug 1994 16:07:56 +0100 Message-Id: <31j34c$q3n@rowan.coventry.ac.uk> Hi, easy question. Does anyone have a script to convert elm's aliases.text file into addressbook format. thanks. -- _ /-\dam ------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK INET : A.Bentley@hermes.coventry.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:24:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03258; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:24:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23961; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23955; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUziI-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: cmsg cancel <31j4q2$r84@news.ysu.edu> Control: cancel <31j4q2$r84@news.ysu.edu> Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:42:50 GMT Message-Id: <31j55q$rcn@news.ysu.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 09:37:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04278; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:37:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24313; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24307; Mon, 1 Aug 94 09:30:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUziO-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 08:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Pine, AIX, and lock-ups Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:45:41 GMT Message-Id: <31j5b5$rdo@news.ysu.edu> I've installed V3.89 of pine on AIX 3.2.2. I'll say up front that I don't use pine, I installed it because my newer users wanted something "better" or "easier" than elm/vi... but with the problems I'm having, neither they nor I are convinced (one of them is ready to go back to the mainframe for e-mail, she's at least sympathetic to the problems). When I first installed pine, my users were having serious lock-up problems. With the assistance of Jeff Scarborough (scarboro@quit.Colorado.EDU) I put a patch on C-Client's bezerk.c to make it less vulnerable to AIX xlc problems, and Pine doesn't lock up when they go to read e-mail. Replies (or composing new outgoing e-mail) is another story. Users pick the letter they want to reply to, press 'r' to reply, the header is all filled in, and they go to the text area and it freezes. Ctl-Q and Ctl-C don't help, I usually have to kill -HUP their process. This particularly happens to users on high-speed modems through a terminal server, but occasionally to users running FTP Software telnet over ethernet as well. How can I find out what's going on ? Set a higher debug level ? Start using Pine for myself ? What do I look for ? Any suggestions (dumping AIX isn't a viable one, sorry) ? -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 10:41:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07425; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:41:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11640; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:20:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11634; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:20:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV0kd-00000FC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ^Z in PICO Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Start pico with the "-z" command line option.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 1 Aug 1994, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > > Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key > combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) > (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which > case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as > an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) > > btw my shell is tcsh... (and as long I don't see any .picorc probably I > will need to edit my .login or my .cshrc) > > Thanks > Shalom > Pucho > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 11:28:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09676; Mon, 1 Aug 94 11:28:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26241; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:56:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26230; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:56:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV1Hr-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 10:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell) Subject: Re: Pine, AIX, and lock-ups Date: 1 Aug 1994 17:23:43 GMT Message-Id: <31jb2v$b9@news.ysu.edu> References: <31j5b5$rdo@news.ysu.edu> First, I've set pine to be my default mail reader-sender. This way perhaps I'll see what problems people are having... I wrote: : When I first installed pine, my users were having serious lock-up problems. : With the assistance of Jeff Scarborough (scarboro@quit.Colorado.EDU) I : put a patch on C-Client's bezerk.c to make it less vulnerable to AIX xlc : problems, and Pine doesn't lock up when they go to read e-mail. : Replies (or composing new outgoing e-mail) is another story. Users pick the : letter they want to reply to, press 'r' to reply, the header is all filled : in, and they go to the text area and it freezes. Ctl-Q and Ctl-C don't help, : I usually have to kill -HUP their process. One observation so far, but it seems more relevant to retrieving mail from the mailbox than replying to it: Since pine is not setgid mail, it cannot create .lock in the mail spool directory, /usr/spool/mail. This lock-file is created if pine is run as root, but not otherwise. Based on my experience with elm, there's a lot of futzing around involved before I can make pine setgid mail. I've not looked at making /usr/spool/mail world-writable with the sticky-bit set - that's how /tmp and /var/tmp are set up on this machine. -- Doug Sewell (doug@cc.ysu.edu) Left alle... what ?! http://cc.ysu.edu/1/doug The internet is like a box of chocolates -- Tom Limoncelli From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 14:39:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17174; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:39:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17014; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:31:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17004; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:31:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV4fX-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Unparsable Date ???!!! Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> >From the upcoming FAQ: I keep getting the message "unparsable date" when I receive messages. What does it mean and how do I fix it? Pine parses the date and time in the UNIX mbox "From " line in order to determine an "internal date" for each message. One of the components of this date and time is the offset from Universal Time. Certain older mailers write a symbolic timezone name instead of the more modern numeric offset. The problem with symbolic timezone names is that such names are ambiguous. Is BST "Bering Standard Time" or "British Summer Time"? Is KST in Korea or Kuwait? etc. The routine mail_parse_date() in pine/imap/c-client/mail.c knows how to parse some, but not all, of these symbolic timezones. We recommend that you modify this routine to add support for your own local timezone. Due to the ambiguity problem, however, it is unlikely that we will add any more symbolic timezones in the distribution sources. But, hopefully, this will only be a minor editing consideration for you. The correct solution is to undertake the transition from symbolic timezone names to numeric timezone values. UNIX software is definitely moving in this direction due to the ambiguity problem, and has been doing so for several years now. [MRC] |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jul 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > Dear Folks, > > I have installed Pine 3.89 in our HP 735/99 running HPUX9.03. > > I found it the warning message " Unparsable date" always bounces on the > screen. It interrupt me and I can hardly key in any command. > > How can I correct it ? It is just killing me. > > Appreciate if you can email me with a solution. > > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 15:18:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18788; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:18:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01728; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:11:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01718; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:11:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV5Kw-00000IC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 14:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swbarnes@slb.com (Simon Barnes) Subject: suggestion for imapd Date: 1 Aug 1994 15:57:00 GMT Message-Id: <31j60d$mp0@gorgon.gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com> Some sites deliver mail to home directories, rather than the system default of /var/spool/mail/username or whatever. Imapd seems to cope with this well enough but ipop3d does not. I suggest a change a bit like this in the function myusername, part of env_unix.c: myHomeDir = cpystr (pw->pw_dir); #ifdef HOME_DELIVERY sprintf(tmp, MAILFILE, myHomeDir); #else sprintf(tmp, MAILFILE, myUserName); the intention being that if HOME_DELIVERY is defined, MAILFILE will be a sprintf template for mailboxes located in home directories. Simon Barnes Geco-Prakla, Gatwick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:03:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20778; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:03:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02638; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02632; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV61e-00000HC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Extracting MIME from textfile Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30o8gh$42c@news.uni-c.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30o8gh$42c@news.uni-c.dk> If it was saved from Pine, you should be able to open the file as a folder and extract the MIME. Use "Goto" then enter the pathname of the file, if it isn't in your mail directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Jul 1994, Lars Rikart Jensen wrote: > How do i extract a MIME from a textfile? It's an old saved mail. > Can i do it with Pine or do i need another piece of software. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:03:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20801; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:03:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19409; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19403; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:56:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV61c-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Dies after i Compose Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 14:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul22.042210.2542@weston.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jul22.042210.2542@weston.com> I don't see anything amiss in your .pine-debug output. The "-1" just means that there was no new mail. It is checking every 2.5 minutes like it is supposed to, so everything looks normal from that standpoint. Does this problem occur every time? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > I am running Pine on an RS/6000 AIX v3.2.4. I can sedn one message, but > can not send a second. When I hit C to compose the second time, it locks > up my terminal. I can go to another terminal and Pine is still running. > I have run Pine with a Debug level of nine, and have received the > following output after sending the message: > > q_status_message, Count 1, "Message sent." > diff: 4, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834841 > > > ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- > new mail called (0 0 2) > set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 > comatose(0) returns:0 ? Help 0 > 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 > 2 (null) (null) 14 > 3 L [ListFldrs 13 > 4 P PrevCmd 27 > 5 N NextCmd 27 > 6 (null) (null) 41 > 7 (null) (null) 41 > 8 R RelNotes 54 > 9 K KBLock 54 > 10 (null) (null) 69 > 11 (null) (null) 69 > row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 > diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834842 > Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 > Select on tty returned 0 > Read char returning: 0 ^@ > Read command returning: 0 ^@ > new mail called (0 0 1) > check_point(BadTime) > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834844 > Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 > Select on tty returned 0 > Read char returning: 0 ^@ > Read command returning: 0 ^@ > new mail called (0 0 1) > diff: -1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834846 > output_message(Message sent.) > STATUS DISPE command:0, disp:1, length:0, Time:Thu Jul 21 18:54:06 1994 > Select readfds:1 timeval:150,0 > Select on tty returned 1 > Read returned 1 > Read char returning: 99 c > Read command returning: 99 c > New_mail_count zeroed > > > ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- > > === send called === > set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 > comatose(0) returns:flags: 0 > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 > > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 > > ******** new mail returning -1 ******** > new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) > check_point(GoodTime) > Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 > > New mail checked > Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 > > It contiues in the loop of checking new mail and returning -1. The -1 > seemed like an error to me. Does anyone have any suggestions of things to > try? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:27:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21963; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:27:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20045; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20039; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:21:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV6Mm-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Encryption Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> Pine will support encryption in the future, but the exact implementation is still up in the air. Suggestions and comments are welcome... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Jul 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > I suspect this is a can of worms post, but here it goes. :-) I am > wondering what the plans are for PINE and encryption. Is PGP, PEM, > an API or none of the above the direction that PINE is going to take? > We have a new committee on electronic forms being formed right now > and I think they are leaning towards PEM. > > By the way, if any of the ISA Corp people read this, what is the > direction of ECS Mail? > > Thanks, > > > -- > Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas > billy@utdallas.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 16:39:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22469; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:39:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03506; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03500; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV6WY-00000JC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 16:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: System Aliases in Pine Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 15:19:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <319vkc$1emb@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <319vkc$1emb@ctsc.hkbc.hk> The system aliases are normally applied by sendmail, which is called by Pine when you send a message. Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks, so you could convert your aliases file to a global addressbook if you so desire... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jul 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > Dear Folks, > > I am a newcomer to use pine. Before, I use elm and find it useful and > comfortable except it use the awful editor vi. In our original system, > we have some system aliases that can be use by every user. However, I > don't know how to make use of the original system aliases and work with > pine. > > I just know pine has a function to incorporate a system-wide address called > bugs-nick-name into the .addressbook for every users. Can I use the same > idea to include the original system aliases there. > > > Regards, > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 18:07:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26179; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:07:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05517; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:01:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05511; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:01:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV7lB-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 17:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pok@yorku.ca (Pok Ng 'd3U&t) Subject: which imap to use? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 23:38:28 GMT Which imap should I use? IMAP 3.4 or the one comes with pine 3.89 distribution? Do I need to re-compile pine 3.89 with IMAP 3.4 c-client library, if I use IMAP 3.4? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 19:12:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27548; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:12:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23122; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:06:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23116; Mon, 1 Aug 94 19:06:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qV8xp-00000DC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 18:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: which imap to use? Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 18:21:06 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: In general, unless you are a developer or need the very latest and greatest IMAP, you should use the IMAP that comes with Pine. The IMAP distribution is a separate release, primarily for hackers; often it was bit literally minutes after edits were made to the development sources. The Pine distribution, on the other hand, is carefully beta and field-tested prior to release. Sometimes the IMAP distribution will have bugfixes that a site will need for Pine; but usually we'll advise a site if this is the case. Pine 3.90, which should be coming out very soon, will have the latest IMAP distribution. Also, IMAP 3.4 will probably be the last version build upon IMAP2 (RFC 1176) and IMAP2bis. IMAP 4.0 will support IMAP4, an updated version of the IMAP protocol that we hope will become IETF Standards-Track later this summer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 21:57:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00901; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:57:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25261; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:52:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25255; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:52:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVBHs-00000BC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 21:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Lilly Subject: Re: Unparsable Date ???!!! Message-Id: Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 12:36:32 UT References: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> In article <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk>, posted to newsgroup comp.mail.pine, morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [ you'd better fix this; it's not a valid address ] >I have installed Pine 3.89 in our HP 735/99 running HPUX9.03. > >I found it the warning message " Unparsable date" always bounces on the >screen. It interrupt me and I can hardly key in any command. > >How can I correct it ? It is just killing me. Replace the date-parsing macro in bezerk.h with a function that correctly parses the "From " lines. The macro author made rather optimistic assumptions about the lengths of From line fields. -- Bruce Lilly, Product Manager, | Routers, Peripherals & Still Store,| uupsi!monymsys!sonyd1!bruce Sony, 3 Paragon Drive, Montvale, | lillyb@ccmail.nhq.sony.com NJ 07645-1735 | Telephone: +1 201 358 4161 | FAX: +1 201 358 4274 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 22:40:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01888; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:40:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25713; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:26:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nuxi.ucc.nau.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25707; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:26:23 -0700 Received: (from jdc@localhost) by nuxi.ucc.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id WAA22212; Mon, 1 Aug 1994 22:24:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 22:24:20 -0700 (MST) From: John Campbell Subject: Ispell in pico To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I'm a recent pine convert and I'm setting pine up for students to use here at our campus on a unix machine. To my surprise, I find that pine and pico were already running on our VMS machine as part of the PMDF suite of mail programs. This was an added bonus. When running pine on VMS, I found the PMDF people had incorporated DECspell into pico. This is a good idea as DECspell is a very good spell checker. I'd like to incorporate ispell into the unix version--it's not quite as good, but it does prompt for user input. I looked at the spell.c code and realize it is possible, but I'll have to learn how to trash the current edit buffer and replace it with the temp file. Not impossible, but I was wondering if someone had done it already. (I grabbed the only VMS source code I could find, but it doesn't give a hint on doing this.) By the way, my motivation is my dyslexic son who really needs a prompting speller. In his case, it's not a matter of simple typos--if he misspelled a word once he'll likely have no idea how to spell it the second time either. Hence something like DECspell or ispell, which prompts and corrects the whole document, is critical. John Campbell John.Campbell@nau.edu jdc@sunset.cse.nau.edu JDC@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 1 23:23:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02701; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09882; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:17:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09876; Mon, 1 Aug 94 23:17:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVCtF-00000HC; Mon, 1 Aug 94 22:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Liu@u.washington.edu (Herng Liu) Subject: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Mon, 01 Aug 1994 22:58:41 +0100 Message-Id: Hi, Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using mailstrom to read my e-mail if I use a Mac to access my mail server. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find any feature in the mailstrom which allows me to save the outgoing mails in my IMAP mail server. Is it possible to do this? I know it can be saved as a local file, but I prefer to save the outgoing mails generated by mailstrom along with the previous outgoing mails in the mail server. It will be more organized this way. If this feature is not available in mailstrom, is there any IMAP-based Mac mailreader software available (shareware or commercial) for doing this? Thanks in advance. -- Herng Liu Department of Chemical Engineering, BF-10 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 Internet:liu@u.washington.edu (206) 685-3036 (voice) (206) 543-3778 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 00:45:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04334; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:45:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27450; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:38:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27444; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:38:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVE8l-00000XC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 00:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cimage@garnet.msen.com (Cimage) Subject: Re: Blind CC's Date: 2 Aug 1994 07:19:15 GMT Message-Id: <31ks1j$21j$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <9407271747.AA14410@ultrix> Michael C. Newell (mnewell@lupine.nsi.nasa.gov) wrote: : As I recall you put the cursor in the header area and press CONTROl-R : [Rich Headers] and the "Bcc" field magically appears. Some systems don't : acknowlege them though, so in some cases the recipients may actually see : the "Bcc" list. Let me strongly caution you against use of BCC if you really don't want people to see the list! I too have discovered (with some embarrassment - fortunately not fatal) that MANY mail systems treat BCC the same as CC. Caveat Emptor! Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 02:30:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06911; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12332; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12326; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVFWw-00000cC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 01:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holemans@reks.uia.ac.be (Wim.Holemans) Subject: use of ISO-LATIN-1, 8bit, ... Message-Id: <1994Aug2.083809.8665@reks.uia.ac.be> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 08:38:09 GMT I've to make a study about the use of international character sets in mail, www, ... Some of the topics are : - how do you create/read a message on a unix host that has another character set ? - what telnet programs (dos/windows) allow to use 8bit character sets and how do they map the characters to their character sets ? - what do www-client programs do (or don't do) with the display of characters above ASCII-128 on a dumb terminal, an x-term, ... ? I'm looking for all possible info on this subject. I know where to find the RFC's, so those references i don't need any more. If anyone has implemented the use of ISO-LATIN-1 or another character set on his site in email and other applications, i would be very interested in hearing how you did this, with which software, ... Any info is welcome, thanks Greetings, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 03:04:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07520; Tue, 2 Aug 94 03:04:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12690; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:57:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12684; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:57:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVG42-00000IC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 02:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: use of ISO-LATIN-1, 8bit, ... Date: 2 Aug 1994 10:23:02 GMT Message-Id: <31l6q6$b62@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- > how do you create/read a message on a unix host that has another > character set ? You can remap the keyboard if you have a qwerty and want to use ISO Latin 1 characters. I had to do this on my Silicon Graphics to be able to write in french, with accents etc. My mailer is Pine 3.89, executed in a xterm window which is remapped from within the .Xdefaults file. When Pine detects non US-ASCII fonts in the message you are writing, it changes the Content-Type: header to the appropriate one (Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" in my case). > what telnet programs (dos/windows) allow to use 8bit character sets > and how do they map the characters to their character sets ? I'm using winsock qvtnet, or wintel for windows without remapping the keyboard, but it can be done exactly like you do it for X11/Unix based programs. There is a very good document written by a canadian, François Yergeau (yergeau@phy.ulaval.ca) about ISO Latin 1 Charset usage, and keyboard mapping, but it's in french. Tell me if you're interested... IMHO ! Cheer up... GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 06:51:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12426; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:51:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15594; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.55.12.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15588; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:39:03 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA25865; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:31:43 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:31:43 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Reply-To: James Dryfoos Subject: Another feature request. To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I quite often am involved in short to medium term projects made up of a group of people. Most often I will receive email from the person in charge and this message will be cc'ed to all the others involved. I would like to be able to do a similar function as the "TakeAddr" function, but instead of just adding the sender to the alias directory, I would like to create a group containing all the addresses in the from:, to: and cc: fields. I would also like to do this without having to add each individual as an individual alias -- I.e. only the group is created and the group holds all the addressing information. This is different from the way groups are maintained now where each group member must be in the alias directory. What you think? Thanks for all the great work! -- Jim ========================================================================== James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax ========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 07:09:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12690; Tue, 2 Aug 94 07:09:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15823; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15817; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:58:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVK6S-00000DC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 06:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: spanish language spelling??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 13:26:16 GMT Is there any spanish language speller that I can use with Pico? Where can I get It? Thanks Shalom Pucho (aka Marcos) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 08:29:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14673; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:29:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03282; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:02:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03259; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:01:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVKwN-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gerland@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland - Network Consultant) Subject: Alternate 'drawers' in VMS Pine. How? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 14:23:41 GMT Can anyone tell me whether VMS Pine can access alternate mail files (drawers in VMS terms)? I tried using the following syntax in my pine.pinerc file: folder-collections=local [], freenet #DISK$ACSDISK3:FREENET.MAI#[] but when I try to open the freenet folder I get: [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] Any ideas? Thanks, Jim... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 09:07:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16644; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:07:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18051; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:54:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18045; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:54:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVLsL-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 08:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: 2 Aug 1994 11:31:10 -0400 Message-Id: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> References: In article , Herng Liu wrote: >Hi, >Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually >use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat >software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the >outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds want to know. _______________________________________________________________________________ Charles Myers Internet:charles@umbc.edu DP Telecomm Tech II yellnet:410-455-3806 Academic Computing Services fax:410-455-1065 University of Maryland Myers-Briggs: INFP Baltimore County Campus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 10:05:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18766; Tue, 2 Aug 94 10:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05835; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:54:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05829; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:54:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVMnH-00000HC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@pjh.jvnc.net (Pete Holsberg) Subject: How Can I Set Up PINE To Use .... ???? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 16:08:04 GMT I'd like to set up Pine to use the UnixWare mailer rather than sendmail. Could someone tell me what changes in what files are needed? Thanks, Pete ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net FAX: 609-586-2318 ------------------------------------------------------------------ **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 13:15:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28096; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:15:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10509; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:07:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10489; Tue, 2 Aug 94 13:07:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVPeG-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 12:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aelman@cs.stanford.edu (Adam Elman) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Tue, 02 Aug 1994 12:24:37 +0000 Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu>, charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) wrote: > In article , > Herng Liu wrote: > >Hi, > >Because I vary locations to check my e-mail quite frequently, I usually > >use pine to read my e-mail through IMAP protocol. It is a pretty neat > >software. One of the nice features is it can automatically save the > >outgoing mails in the IMAP mail server. I am thinking about using > > Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work > really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds > want to know. > I don't think so. The problem is that pine is inherently a command-line, text-only terminal program, and wouldn't really work directly ported to the Mac. Of course, there is a Mac IMAP client, as the original poster mentioned: Mailstrom. Mailstrom is available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu; NOT in the Info-Mac archives, but in /imap/clients. Of course, Sumex is nearly impossible to get into these days...:( Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. Adam From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 14:50:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02037; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:50:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12561; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:43:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12555; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:43:22 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA07000; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:45:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 14:45:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 15:05:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02701; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12785; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12773; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:56:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVRNa-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmwobus@mailbox.syr.edu (John M. Wobus) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 2 Aug 1994 21:03:10 GMT Message-Id: <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> In article <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com>, jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) writes: >Michael S. Robinson (mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu) wrote: > >: I think the reason you're seeing this is a change in the point of reference. >: You are correct that every guide to the internet mentions PINE or ELM for >: mail. However, there is a huge trend towards having central servers >: with many clients around thme (gee, a LAN maybe?). Anyways, POP has one >: great advantage for a client/server set-up: It goes out, does what it needs >: to do, then closes up shop. This cuts down greatly on any unnecessary network >: traffic. It's also less overhead for the client system. Every little bit helps. > >?? Are you saying that IMAP can't do that? > >As far as I remember - IMAP could be used as a complete POP replacement - >you could GET all messages onto your local system and then DELETE them >off the server - Ta Da!! But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining behavior that IMAP was designed for. IMAP is great. But if you are aiming to limit your server resources by offering only POP-style usage, then IMAP server and client software is not ready for prime time. John Wobus Syracuse University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 15:41:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04037; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:41:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13574; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:33:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13568; Tue, 2 Aug 94 15:33:10 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa19595; 2 Aug 94 18:33 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA23833; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 18:33:06 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 18:33:06 -0400 From: "Steven D. Majewski" Message-Id: <199408022233.AA23833@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: "John M. Wobus" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? On Aug 2, 21:03, "John M. Wobus" wrote: > > But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is > anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace > your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex > server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining > behavior that IMAP was designed for. > > IMAP is great. But if you are aiming to limit your server resources > by offering only POP-style usage, then IMAP server and client software is > not ready for prime time. > I was about to cast by vote whole heartedly for IMAP over POP, but John Wobus' comments above, remind me to add the caveat that IMAP is better than POP as long as it makes sense for you to shift resource usage onto the server, with the advantage of reducing load on the client and on the network bandwidth. These conditions fit for people like Bill Yeager who are interested in mobile & disconnected use, and people who get hundreds of messages a day and don't want to download them all to find the one they need, but there may be a number of cases where server load is the more important limiting factor. In that case, then yes - POP makes more sense. - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 19:54:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12242; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:54:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18542; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:48:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18536; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:48:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVW2B-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 16:45:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> John Wobus writes: > leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining > behavior that IMAP was designed for. Could you elaborate on what sort of ``server-resource-draining behavior'' you are referring to? Have you made any sort of statistical analysis about various distributed email strategies and their relative costs? I can understand the claim that keeping mail on the server consumes disk space, but it would be much more expensive for me to buy adequate disk space on every client that I use for mail than it would be to buy adequate disk space on a single server. It is interesting to compare IMAP vs NFS when you talk about resource consumption. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 20:07:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12459; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:07:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18735; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18727; Tue, 2 Aug 94 20:02:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVWGq-00000DC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 2 Aug 1994 18:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: <31msc6$rh@gibeah.connected.com> References: <1994Jul28.063622.29384@reks.uia.ac.be> > Can anyone comment on the status of pine 3.90 ? I thought it was > announced for the spring. Also any news about a windows version ? Oh, it'll be out in a few weeks.. -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates| | | \________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 22:59:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15566; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:59:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05072; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:50:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05066; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:50:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVYxr-00000eC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tim@systel.com (Timothy Kulig) Subject: HP "sent-mail is locked" ERROR Date: 3 Aug 1994 04:44:44 GMT Message-Id: <31n7cf$igo@condor.ic.net> After I do a Control-X to send a letter, it freezes like that on my screen, I'm not sure what I compiled wrong, but apparently I did. It does this countdown thing, sayes that it has 280 seconds before it unlocks it. Every 5 seconds or so, it beeps. Here the situation I'm trying to setup: On an HP9000/832 I have just UUCP mail feed to my home computer which has a slip connection off the internet. I have my HP, uucico into my home computer on an hourly basis. I just started working there 3 months ago. Mail has been working fine as far as UUCP, but when I first started using pine on the HP, I noticed it said it could not access sendmail in : /usr/lib/sendmail. I noticed the permissions set 000. So it could not be accessed. (Actually when it's like that everything works fine.) So now I turn on sendmail with 777 permissions and use pine, and I get that stupid 'Folder "sent-mail" is locked, Blah Blah.' I don't know what to do. I love Pine and want to use it there. Can someone help me? Please! tim@systel.com -- ============================================================================= __&__ | / \ | Timothy Alan Kulig tim@systel.com or tkulig@ic.net | | | | (o)(o) | S Y S T E L Unix Windows Dos Vax - You name it! C .---_) | | |.___| | If you need anything in the Unix World, Feel Free to call! | \__/ | /_____\ | (800) 906-2167 (810) 960-9783 Data: (810) 960-7679 /_____/ \ | / \ | Homer Simpson is my Idle. MMMMM Fuzzy Grape!! ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 23:30:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16072; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:30:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05527; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:21:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05521; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:21:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVZOo-000006C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Another feature request. Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 22:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408020931.AA20815@LL.MIT.EDU> This will be in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 Aug 1994, James Dryfoos wrote: > I quite often am involved in short to medium term projects made up of a group > of people. Most often I will receive email from the person in charge and > this message will be cc'ed to all the others involved. I would like to be > able to do a similar function as the "TakeAddr" function, but instead of > just adding the sender to the alias directory, I would like to create a group > containing all the addresses in the from:, to: and cc: fields. I would also > like to do this without having to add each individual as an individual > alias -- I.e. only the group is created and the group holds all the > addressing information. This is different from the way groups are > maintained now where each group member must be in the alias > directory. What you think? > > Thanks for all the great work! > > -- Jim > > ========================================================================== > James D. Dryfoos | dryfoos@ll.mit.edu > MIT Lincoln Laboratory, Group 28 | > 244 Wood Street, MailStop: B-120 | (617) 981-2008 - office > Lexington, MA 02173, Earth | (617) 981-0782 - fax > ========================================================================== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 2 23:41:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16376; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05702; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:35:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05696; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:35:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVZdg-00000FC; Tue, 2 Aug 94 23:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How Can I Set Up PINE To Use .... ???? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 22:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will have the call to sendmail broken out into a separate OS-dependent file, which would make is a bit more straight-forward to hack in. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 2 Aug 1994, Pete Holsberg wrote: > I'd like to set up Pine to use the UnixWare mailer rather than sendmail. Could > someone tell me what changes in what files are needed? > > Thanks, > Pete > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 > 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu > Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net > FAX: 609-586-2318 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 01:21:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18884; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07106; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07100; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVb8X-000006C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: 3 Aug 1994 08:51:50 GMT Message-Id: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Back ! Is there any project of a port of Pine on the Macintosh ? Thanks GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 01:21:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18921; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:21:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07098; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07092; Wed, 3 Aug 94 01:13:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVb6e-00000DC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 00:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 3 Aug 1994 08:49:59 GMT Message-Id: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Hi all, Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming a little bit late ! Has someone tried (beta) X11 version of Pine called Spruce ? Cheers GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 04:25:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23527; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:25:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09738; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:13:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nuxi.ucc.nau.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09732; Wed, 3 Aug 94 04:13:56 -0700 Received: (from jdc@localhost) by nuxi.ucc.nau.edu (8.6.9/2.2-nau) id EAA22556; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:11:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 04:11:40 -0700 (MST) From: John Campbell Subject: Possible feature-list bug? To: Pine Info Cc: John Campbell Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm very new to pine and to this list so maybe this has been discussed already... When I try to put multiple lines on the feature-list= line of pine.conf only the first item is shown with pine -conf. In other words: feature-list=enable-tab-completion, enable-jump-shortcut, signature-at-bottom, delete-skips-deleted, enable-alternate-editor-cmd gives me the following when I say pine -conf : feature-list=enable-tab-completion If I put all the features on one line then pine -conf reports them all, but in the multi-line format, which I can't use as a starting point for a new .pinerc. Has this been discussed before? I'm running the following version of pine under Solaris 2.3: last-version-used=3.89 Also, I sent a question in as my first posting to this list asking if anyone has modified pico's spell.c to allow for the use of ispell. This would, I believe, entail running ispell on the temp file and then replacing the temp file rather than going into the word prompting command loop currently in pico's spell.c code. I believe the PMDF pine version on VMS does this (only using DECspell and not ispell). It shouldn't be very hard for someone who knows how to replace a pico edit buffer--but I was hoping for advice before I attempted it myself. [This would probably answer the question posted recently about using a spanish dictionary as ispell has foreign language support, by the way.] John Campbell John.Campbell@nau.edu jdc@sunset.cse.nau.edu JDC@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 08:18:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00415; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:18:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28873; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:10:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.209.19.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28861; Wed, 3 Aug 94 08:10:42 -0700 Received: by sbulib.sbuniv.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA11267; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:11:11 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 10:11:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Rick Nebel Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Aug 1994, Guy BRAND wrote: > Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really > prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent > mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine > I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming > a little bit late ! I for one agree. Pine 3.89 doesn't do everything we would like but it does a lot of good things relative to other programs out there. For the price and the fact that the majority of our end-users don't have a great need for all of the highly technical bells and whistles, I have never been one to complain. IMHO, I would rather wait a "few more weeks" for a good, solid release than get an early, buggy one with frequent patches and updates. We put up with that too much in the MS-DOS, Windows, Mac environment now days. Just my $.02 worth. Rick Nebel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 12:43:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12391; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04742; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04736; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVlh7-00000BC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 12:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: worth@mic.ucla.edu (Don D. Worth) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: Wed, 03 Aug 1994 11:11:48 -0700 Message-Id: References: > I can understand the claim that keeping mail on the server consumes disk > space, but it would be much more expensive for me to buy adequate disk space > on every client that I use for mail than it would be to buy adequate disk > space on a single server. I can understand the issue about longer session times over dial-up connections for IMAP, although I would contend that many users might keep their dial-up session active throughout the time they are using their email client, especially if they have their POP client (eg. Eudora) configured to do immediate sends and they are replying to messages, one by one, and if they are making a local call. However, I don't really buy the issue of POP somehow relieving disk space on the server. In either protocol, you must allocate some disk quota to each user and implement some sort of space retrieval (or mail bouncing) system so you can deal with accumulations of unread email. I would contend, based on the pattern of use among students at our university, that the bulk of the storage is consumed by unread mail, not mail that has already been read. What I'm told is that students on average check email less frequently than do staff, which allows a greater accumulation of unread mail. We've heard horror stories for departmental email systems where a student logs on, subscribes to eleventy seven LISTSERV lists, and then doesn't logon again for a month. If you set the quota so that it is not practical for students to store their logs of email history on the server, but only to accomodate a reasonable accumulation of inbox messages, I suspect there won't be a whole lot of difference between IMAP and POP as far as server disk space goes. For me, the real reason to go IMAP is to resolve the problems of sharing a single machine among many (e.g. public access workstation) and of sharing a single inbox among many workstations (e.g. a workstation at home and a workstation at work). Also, the advantages of shared inboxes, selective downloads of MIME components, etc. Don Worth Manager, UCLA Microcomputer Support Office From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 16:56:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23165; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:56:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26331; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26325; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:47:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVpek-00000FC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hsasaki@netcom.com (Harold Sasaki) Subject: Trouble with signature ? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Aug 1994 17:50:21 GMT I am having trouble having Pine putting my .signature at the end of a message I am trying to forward. I have "feature-list= signature-at-bottom" in my .pinerc file, but that doesn't do it. Is there something I'm forgetting to do? Also I am using "vacation" to send an automatic reply to any mail I receive. Is there a way to include my .signature in the .vacation.msg file without actually typing it in? Maybe a $ variable or something? TIA for any info. -- /-----------------------+----------------------------------------\ | Harold Sasaki | Go Oakland A's in 1994 | | hsasaki@netcom.com | Go Golden State Warriors in 1994-95 | | San Jose State Univ. | "I'm a loser baby, so why don't you | | | kill me ..." -- Beck | \-----------------------+----------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:20:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29275; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:20:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00580; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:04:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00574; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:04:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtZJ-00000BC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov (Stefan Chakerian) Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE Date: 3 Aug 1994 17:30:00 -0600 Message-Id: <31p99o$hcr@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> References: David L Miller wrote: >No, Pine does not do delivery filtering. You need an external filter >program to accomplish that. Someone at netcom should be able to tell you >what is available there and how to use it... >> I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain >> incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. Check for the existence of "filter" or "procmail" Filter is easy to use, but procmail is pretty powerful. stef -- Stefan Chakerian Good, fast, cheap. Pick two. schake@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:24:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29384; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00742; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:12:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00736; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:12:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtq3-00000HC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Ritesh Patel) Subject: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? Date: 4 Aug 1994 03:28:43 GMT Message-Id: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. -- --------------------------- Ritesh Patel rhpatel@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:24:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29427; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:24:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14508; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14502; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVtQ5-000006C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 20:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbollow@netcom.com (jbollow@netcom.com) Subject: How do I Reply with to an e-mail with a form letter? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 02:15:52 GMT Greetings. I'm trying to figure out how to reply to an e-mail with a form letter. For example, I placed a post in some newsgroups that led to a large response, but I want to be able to reply to everyone with the same letter. I've been writing down the respondee's name, and forwarding the form letter to them, but that seems like a waste of time, and the inbox doesn't mark the respondee's note with and "A" to note that it's been answered. Is there any way to reply with a form letter? PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL... THANKS! ---jeff--- -- jbollow@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 21:42:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29775; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:42:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14862; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:27:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14856; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:27:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVu0z-00000DC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:12:48 GMT Message-Id: <31o54g$fji@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> <31mcaf$kna@newstand.syr.edu> John M. Wobus (jmwobus@mailbox.syr.edu) wrote: : But IMAP doesn't do that. Who uses it as a simple POP replacement? Is : anyone defining a POP-equivalent subnet? IMAP Lite? If you want to replace Who would want to? All I'm saying is that IMAP contains the functionality of POP - obviously it isn't POP. But a MUA could be written that uses IMAP in _exactly_ the same way that POP is used. No-one has done that because IMAP also allows you to do other things too. : your POP with functionally equivalent IMAP, you get to run the more complex : server and leave your server open to the kinds of server-resource-draining : behavior that IMAP was designed for. I'm a bit concerned about your "server-resource-draining" comment - it may scare off potential users ;-) IMAP _can_ use more resources than POP because it offers more features - but I wouldn't want people to think it's some kind of memory-hog... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 3 22:38:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00993; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01822; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:28:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01816; Wed, 3 Aug 94 22:28:38 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA18635; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:17:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 01:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Trouble with signature ? To: Harold Sasaki Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings, On Wed, 3 Aug 1994, Harold Sasaki wrote: > I am having trouble having Pine putting my .signature at the end of a > message I am trying to forward. I have "feature-list= > signature-at-bottom" in my .pinerc file, but that doesn't do it. Is > there something I'm forgetting to do? Try setting signature-file= in your .pinerc. That does the trick for me. > > Also I am using "vacation" to send an automatic reply to any mail I > receive. Is there a way to include my .signature in the .vacation.msg > file without actually typing it in? Maybe a $ variable or something? > TIA for any info. > -- For your .vacation.msg, it is simply text. Just enter into any editor and insert the file where you want it placed. For example, if you use pico, open it with your .signature, place the cursor where you want the signature, and do CTRL-R. Type in the filename. No typing of file and signature is included. Hope this helps. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 00:52:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03321; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:52:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17451; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:42:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17445; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:42:52 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA23755; Thu, 4 Aug 94 15:43:09 +0800 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:43:08 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? To: Ritesh Patel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Ritesh Patel wrote: > How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? > > For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it > to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. Simple.... pick up a "filter" program such as procmail or deliver or filter (from the elm distribution). The most comprehesive (IMHO) is procmail.....from the FAQ: A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.112.172) Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 00:52:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03352; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:52:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03631; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:39:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03625; Thu, 4 Aug 94 00:39:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVwmK-00000MC; Wed, 3 Aug 94 23:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) Subject: Re: How do I Reply with to an e-mail with a form letter? Date: 4 Aug 1994 02:59:42 -0400 Message-Id: <31q3ku$86a@panix.com> References: In jbollow@netcom.com (jbollow@netcom.com) writes: >Greetings. >I'm trying to figure out how to reply to an e-mail with a form letter. >For example, I placed a post in some newsgroups that led to a large >response, but I want to be able to reply to everyone with the same letter. >I've been writing down the respondee's name, and forwarding the form >letter to them, but that seems like a waste of time, and the inbox >doesn't mark the respondee's note with and "A" to note that it's been >answered. >Is there any way to reply with a form letter? >PLEASE RESPOND VIA E-MAIL... THANKS! I am curious what you posted that got such a response, but non the less, why don't you just respond, without including the previous message, and import the form letter, (Read File, ^R in pine). There may be more automatic ways of doing this, but this will work. Jim jph@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 02:02:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05310; Thu, 4 Aug 94 02:02:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04862; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:53:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04850; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:53:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qVyDy-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 01:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Looking for Spruce... Date: 4 Aug 1994 09:32:15 GMT Message-Id: <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr> -- Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? Thanks GB ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 03:44:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07402; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:44:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19768; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19762; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:09 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07883; Thu, 4 Aug 94 03:36:06 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 04 Aug 94 12:27:56+0200 Date: 04 Aug 94 12:27:56+0200 From: Sharon Deng Message-Id: <778816*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 07:51:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12697; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:51:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23558; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:44:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23552; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:44:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW3hD-00000VC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 07:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: araw@iplab7.health.ufl.edu (Robert Moser) Subject: Where is Spruce/who is contact? Date: 04 Aug 1994 13:57:48 GMT Message-Id: I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that address bounces. Anyone know who to contact? I'd like to participate in testing, and I have linux and sun platforms. Thanks, araw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:36:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14255; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:36:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11022; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:27:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11016; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:27:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW4Jr-00000aC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gcook@tuzo.erin (Gordon Cook) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 14:35:36 GMT In article , Adam Elman wrote: >In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu>, charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) >wrote: > >> Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work >> really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds >> want to know. >> > >I don't think so. The problem is that pine is inherently a command-line, >text-only terminal program, and wouldn't really work directly ported to >the Mac. > >Of course, there is a Mac IMAP client, as the original poster mentioned: >Mailstrom. Mailstrom is available from sumex-aim.stanford.edu; NOT in the >Info-Mac archives, but in /imap/clients. Of course, Sumex is nearly >impossible to get into these days...:( > >Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. Anyone have an inkling as to when Mailstrom will support MIME? Last time I checked, it didn't. Please send any mail to the address below: -- Gordon J. Cook, Hon.B.Sc. Erindale College, University of Toronto, Canada. "Beware of programmers who carry screwdrivers." -- Leonard Brandwein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:43:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14550; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:43:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11293; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:38:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11287; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:38:02 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <19169-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:30:00 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA23688; Thu, 4 Aug 94 16:41:02 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:41:02 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Where is Spruce/who is contact? To: Robert Moser Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have an old message that says documentation can be found (and I've just tried it -- it can!) at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 4 Aug 1994, Robert Moser wrote: > I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference > to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that > address bounces. Anyone know who to contact? I'd like to participate in > testing, and I have linux and sun platforms. > > Thanks, > > araw > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 08:48:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14728; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:48:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24831; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24825; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:41:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW4Y9-00000PC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 08:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scotty@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Scott Rigby) Subject: Is pine an NNTP newsreader? Date: 4 Aug 1994 23:48:13 +1000 Message-Id: I've heard that pine can be used to access NNTP news servers to read news... Is this true and if so, could someone suggest an FTP site for a pine archive (preferably already compiled for NeXT MACH) Regz, Scott.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 09:35:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17041; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:35:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12559; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12553; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:29:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW5JC-00000nC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: faridf@watson.ibm.com (Farzad FARID) Subject: Pine for OS/2? Date: 4 Aug 1994 14:43:25 GMT Message-Id: <31quqd$ld1@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Has Pine been ported to OS/2 2.x or is someone working on a port? And is there a FAQ on Pine available? Thanks. Farzad -- Farzad Farid, 37-012. Tel: (914) 945-2175, tie 862-2175 NetDoor/CORE Support. IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights NY. *** The opinions expressed here are only mine and not those of IBM *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 10:05:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18008; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:05:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26704; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:59:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26698; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:59:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW5o2-00000PC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 09:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aelman@cs.stanford.edu (Adam Elman) Subject: Re: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions Date: Thu, 04 Aug 1994 09:15:02 +0000 Message-Id: References: <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> In article , gcook@tuzo.erin (Gordon Cook) wrote: > >Mailstrom is similar to Pine in some ways, but not in all. > > Anyone have an inkling as to when Mailstrom will support MIME? > Last time I checked, it didn't. > > Please send any mail to the address below: Mailstrom V2, with MIME support and many other niceties, is still in private alpha testing. It's going slowly because the author and the other people working on it all have full-time jobs at the moment which have nothing to do with Mailstrom. :( But they're trying to have it at least in beta testing by sometime this fall. Adam -- Adam Elman | WWW: http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~elmanad/ aelman@cs.stanford.edu | Finger me or check out my Web page for PGP key!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Sometimes I lie awake at night and ask 'Where did I go wrong?' Then a voice answers 'This will take some time to explain...'" -- Peanuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 10:34:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19344; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13891; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sirius.cc.utexas.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13885; Thu, 4 Aug 94 10:27:58 -0700 Received: (from loflin@localhost) by sirius.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6/cc-os.mc-1.2) id MAA03920; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 12:27:47 -0500 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 12:27:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Loflin Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2? To: Farzad FARID Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31quqd$ld1@watnews1.watson.ibm.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Has Pine been ported to OS/2 2.x or is someone working on a port? > And is there a FAQ on Pine available? Thanks. > Farzad > As far as I know, no one has done a port yet. I have been working with Pine 3.89 but I'm having major problems with Pico & EMX/GCC's termcap libraries (thus, I'm still working on Pico, haven't even starting porting the rest of Pine itself yet). I may switch to Borland and use the DOS-specific code, but then I have to actually be at my machine :-( instead of telnetting in (thank you IBM, for including a telnetd!). Pine 3.90 is supposed to use IMAP 3.4, which includes WINSOCK support and other API (function params, etc) changes, so I'm inclined to wait for it before porting the whole thing, given that it's due out "any day now" :-) I'm continuing w/3.89 slowly though, I figure I will at least get used to the code that way. I realize IBM TCP's socket interface has more in common w/BSD than WINSOCK, but the Winsock code (other than winsock calls) is likely more OS2 friendly than the BSD/Unix code, even using EMX/GCC. --- Don Loflin Microcomputer Technologies, // DISCLAIMER: I do not represent Computation Center - UT Austin // the views of my employer, nor loflin@sirius.cc.utexas.edu // am I acting officially for them From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 12:25:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24032; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:25:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16556; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:19:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16550; Thu, 4 Aug 94 12:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qW7tK-00000JC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 11:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benc@pipeline.com (Ben Cacace) Subject: Pine: Printing to local printer Date: 4 Aug 1994 12:50:19 -0400 Message-Id: <31r68b$r8f@pipe1.pipeline.com> [ Article crossposted from news.newusers.questions ] [ Author was Ben Cacace ] [ Posted on 4 Aug 1994 11:59:00 -0400 ] Unfortunately I am having a problem printing some E-Mail using Pine. I am using Pine ver 3.89 and the printer prints out short memos with no problems. But when I try to print out a memo of 48,958 or 49,039 I get a ProComm error message saying "Procomm Error / Error printing to printer". I am an experienced PC user with some knowledge of Windows (meaning I don't need to be spoon fed just yet ;) Thanks for listening, benc@pipeline.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 13:30:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26868; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:30:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18038; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:24:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aldus.northnet.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18032; Thu, 4 Aug 94 13:24:37 -0700 Received: by Aldus.NorthNet.org (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23279; Thu, 4 Aug 94 16:24:03 EDT Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 16:24:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas J. Blauvelt" Subject: Re: Pine: Printing to local printer To: Ben Cacace Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31r68b$r8f@pipe1.pipeline.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Ben Cacace wrote: > Unfortunately I am having a problem printing some E-Mail > using Pine. I am using Pine ver 3.89 and the printer > prints out short memos with no problems. But when I try > to print out a memo of 48,958 or 49,039 I get a ProComm > error message saying "Procomm Error / Error printing to > printer". I have the same problem in Pine with certain printers printing multiple page messages using the DOS version of Procomm (but not with all printers.) The solution I found was to capture printer output to a disc file while on-line and then use the DOS 'print' command to print the file off-line. I use the PRNDSK.COM program written by David Rifkind. My guess is that there's a handshaking problem between the computer and the printer which may be easier to work around than to try to fix, but I would be very interested in an easier solution. Thomas Blauvelt North Country Reference & Research Resources Council blauvelt@northnet.org 7 Commerce Lane Canton, NY 13617 (315) 386-4569 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:14:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10246; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:14:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25858; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:05:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25852; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:05:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFFH-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 19:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gboone@cc.gatech.edu (Gary N. Boone) Subject: Pine, XBiff, and Icons? Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:41:33 GMT Message-Id: <31rqqt$hp0@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> It seems that everytime I delete mail, then quit pine, my xbiff fires, telling me that new mail has arrived. How do I fix this? Or better yet, what are your creative ways of running pine under X such that it lets you know when new mail has arrived? --- -Gary N. Boone (gboone@cc.gatech.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:31:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10743; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:31:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10235; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:20:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10229; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:20:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFUh-00000FC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 19:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egin@unixg.ubc.ca (Edmund Gin) Subject: About headers... Date: 5 Aug 1994 02:28:17 GMT Message-Id: <31s841$nrr@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi! :) I guess this has probably been asked a zillion times, but since I've only recently gotten a hold of the newsgroup, I think I'm gonna risk getting flamed just to ask this question... *cringe* Is it possible to read the path by which the mail arrived? ie. the domain!domain!subdomain.domain!... etc. Is it something that can be done by tweaking the .pinerc file? or even in Pine itself? :) Cheers, Ed -- Edmund Gin, egin@unixg.ubc.ca "In life, it matters not what you have received; What really matters is what you have done." --Wong Ka Kui, 1962-1993 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 20:46:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11115; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:46:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26271; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:35:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26265; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:35:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWFik-00000BC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu (Bryce Wilcox) Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE Date: 5 Aug 1994 00:30:32 GMT Message-Id: <31s178$cp7@lace.Colorado.EDU> References: <31p99o$hcr@tesuque.cs.sandia.gov> Stefan Chakerian wrote: >David L Miller wrote: >>No, Pine does not do delivery filtering. You need an external filter >>program to accomplish that. Someone at netcom should be able to tell you >>what is available there and how to use it... >>> I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain >>> incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. > >Check for the existence of "filter" or "procmail" Filter is easy to >use, but procmail is pretty powerful. *FILTER* is easy to use? Cosmos I hate UNIX and this whole ugly little command-line, shell script world. Ugly ugly ugly. As soon as my stupid machine GETS "filter" set up *then* I have the pleasure of wasting *another* few hours of my life trying to figure out how to do the simple task of splitting my incoming mail into 2 folders by Subject line. How fucking difficult can that be? Why the hell doesn't Pine or Elm or something just have a key you hit and it asks you "What subject line?" and "Into which folder?" and have fucking DONE with it? I long for the day when this whole paradigm of user interface is a detestable memory. Bryce wilcoxb@cs.colorado.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 21:30:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12046; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11164; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11158; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWGLK-00000FC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tin@tlc.engr.sgi.com (Tin Le) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 and IRIX-5.2 Date: 4 Aug 1994 23:09:55 GMT Message-Id: <31rsg3$14s@fido.asd.sgi.com> References: <3194sb$3ti@news.udel.edu> In article <3194sb$3ti@news.udel.edu>, Randy Zagar wrote: >Here are the list of changes that I made to get Pine v3.89 to >compile under Irix-5.2 > >os_sgi.c: > > Critical change!!! > > In rfc822_date(), change "_tzname" to "tzname". This will work. > Not-so-Critical change... > > Locate the string "/usr/ucb/rsh" and change is to RSHPATH > Do NOT put this in quotes!!! > >Now you're ready for prime time. You might also want to edit the files ttyin.c, ttyout.c in the pine directory. It is somewhat unfortunate that the name "termname" is used as a variable (char []), since in libcurse, termname() happens to be a function. I sent in a suggestion to the pine people last year about changing termname the variable to something like "termName" so there won't be a name conflict. This was with regard to 3.89 so the changes, if any, won't be there till next release of pine. You can just do a search and replace all references to "termname" to something else. I suggest using "termName". DISCLAIMER: I am not an SGI employee. Just a consultant. I definitely do NOT speak for SGI. Regards, Tin Le -- Tin Le (tin@tlsoft.com) | CBMSW Archive on Wuarchive.wustl.edu tin@tlc.engr.sgi.com | Submissions to cbmsw@TLsoft.COM Moderator of comp.binaries.ms-windows | Questions to cbmsw-request@TLsoft.COM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 4 21:31:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12102; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:31:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26974; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26967; Thu, 4 Aug 94 21:18:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWGMM-00000HC; Thu, 4 Aug 94 20:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: 4 Aug 1994 22:42:57 GMT Message-Id: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Hi All, One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some communication software, for example it doesn't work in either MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could either send me email or post a followup to this article saying what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. I'll post the list. Thanks much, Nancy nancym@ii.com -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:09:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18949; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:09:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02249; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02243; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWLWK-00000vC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clindh@abalon.se (Christer Lindh) Subject: Replying to text encoded "binary" - help Message-Id: <1994Aug5.071003.7996@abalon.se> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 94 07:10:03 GMT When PC Eudora sends out mail that contains 8bit characters and one has turned off the Quoted-Printable option, the mail is encoded as being "binary" (not "8bit"). I'm not sure what the MIME specs say about this, but I can't change Eudora. This works fine between Eudoras but when replying to such a mail in UNIX Pine 3.89 only the first line of the included text is prefixed. When the mail is marked as being "8bit" replying works fine tough. Bug or feature? Can anyone of the Pine gurus point me to the piece of Pine-code that decides what way to go? I need to patch this if possible as it is a problem for our internal mail. **** PLEASE REPLY BY MAIL **** -- :: clindh@abalon.se :: o/ :: :: :: Abalon AB, Stockholm, Sweden :: /@ :: Earth. :: :: (MIME compliant) :: /!> :: Love it or leave it. :: :: * All disclaimers apply * :: ! climb! :: :: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:09:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18972; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:09:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16152; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16146; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:57:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWLW9-00000uC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwitt@orion.it.luc.edu (Jonathan L. Witt) Subject: CC: to Self; Changing INBOX default Date: 4 Aug 1994 17:18:56 GMT Message-Id: <31r7u0$c4b@apollo.it.luc.edu> I'm trying to run Pine on a VMS/VAX machine, and am having a bit of trouble trying to get it setup properly. In particular: 1) How can I get it to automatically send myself a copy of message I send out. I tried to setup the .pinerc file so that fcc would save a copy to a folder, but have not had any success yet. While I could just specify my own address in the CC: field every time a send a message, there must be an easier way. 2) When I start pine it tries to open the INBOX folder, which has no messages, becasue new messages on our system show up in a NEWMAIL folder. What I'd like to do is either: a) get pine to start up looking in the newmail folder (I'd prefer this); of b) get my new mail to appear in the INBOX folder. 3) Is there, or is there not, a Pine FAQ? I think part of my troubles are due to the fact that I'm running Pine on a VMS/VAX system, and the setup is designed with something else in mind (Unix, PC?). Any help would be appreciated. jon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 03:25:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19365; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:25:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02563; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:16:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02557; Fri, 5 Aug 94 03:16:48 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA00802 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 5 Aug 1994 06:16:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 06:16:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE To: Bryce Wilcox Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31s178$cp7@lace.Colorado.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 5 Aug 1994, Bryce Wilcox wrote: > *FILTER* is easy to use? Cosmos I hate UNIX and this whole ugly little > command-line, shell script world. Ugly ugly ugly. As soon as my stupid > machine GETS "filter" set up *then* I have the pleasure of wasting *another* > few hours of my life trying to figure out how to do the simple task of > splitting my incoming mail into 2 folders by Subject line. How fucking > difficult can that be? Why the hell doesn't Pine or Elm or something just > have a key you hit and it asks you "What subject line?" and "Into which > folder?" and have fucking DONE with it? What astounding eloquence & articulation. The problem with most tools on most computer systems is that the more flexible they are the more detail is required to specify how you want them to behave. To take a simple example from my .procmailrc (the file procmail uses to determine what to do with my incoming mail: MAILDIR=$HOME/mail # # AMANDA mail reports # :0: *^Subject:.*AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR amanda-mail This could have been invented by changing a few of the words in the manual page / cookbook that came with procmail and *not* required an understanding of the regular expression notation. Tells procmail to put mail with a Subject line containing AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR in a folder called amanda-mail. The reason Pine and Elm don't shuffle mail between mail boxes when it arrives is because their function is *not* delivery of inbound mail, a progran which was responsible for sending & receiving mail would be even more complex. I suppose that it would be possible to have features that automatically shuffled mail aboutr thwn pine started up and every time new mail arrived, but that seems like a lot of work, and even if it were to be implemented as you suggest people would eventually ask for features like pattern matching and case insensitivity and the .pinerc would start looking like a little language for describing regular expressions again. One possible way round this would be to have the user shuffle mail manually for a bit and stick a simple bit of neural network code into pine so that once it recognised some patterns of use it could automatically start prompting the user... There's probably time to get that in to 3.90 still ;-) > I long for the day when this whole paradigm of user interface is a detestable > memory. If you abandon using computers today then you're in luck ;-) The paradigm of "user interface" is pretty useful to people trying to use computers. Even if someone develops a really neat buzzword-laden GUI driven object oriented interface there'll be someone who says "Just how many ******* buttons do I have to press to specify..." Rant off. Thanks to the Pine Team for pine which is still fairly simple despite the number of features grafted on to it. Mike -- The "usual disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 08:51:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27313; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:51:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21761; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:43:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21754; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:43:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWQsH-00000WC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arice@dorsai.org (Abe_Rice) Subject: Need Help with PINE Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 14:49:12 GMT I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. 1. whenever I reply (mail) from within PINE it gives me a message that 'permision denied'. The mail however does get to where it was sent. 2. How can I save a letter? 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. any help would be apreciated. thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:00:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27580; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:00:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21975; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21969; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:54:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRAE-00000kC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: Multiple Addressbook in version 3.90 Date: 5 Aug 1994 01:43:06 GMT Message-Id: <31s5fa$ami@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I have heard of Pine ver. 3.90 can support multiple addressbook so that I can convert my system aliases into a global addressbook that everyone can use it. When will Pine ver. 3.90 release ? Cause I am using verion 3.89 and find it did not support system aliases in sendmail. Is that version support the common brand of UNIX OS such as SUN OS, Solaris, HPUX and IBM AIX? Your kind discussion is much appreciated. -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:20:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28731; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:20:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22495; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:12:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22489; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:12:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRMJ-00000qC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leiman@dshp02.ntc.nokia.com (Leiman Ian) Subject: Re: Where is Spruce/who is contact? Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:13:21 GMT Message-Id: <31tkuh$fau@noknic.nokia.com> References: In article , araw@iplab7.health.ufl.edu (Robert Moser) writes: |> I went on a fishing trip looking for Spruce. I found only a single reference |> to 'leiman@ntc.nokia.com' as the contact for Spruce. Mail sent to that |> address bounces. The correct address is below. Never ever trust that email addresses on news article headers work! Seldom they do. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:20:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28776; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:20:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08756; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:15:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08750; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:15:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRWw-00000xC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charles@yorku.ca (Charles Duncan) Subject: IMAP based mail packages? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 16:40:28 GMT other than Pine, does anyone have any recommendations regarding other IMAP based mail packages for the PC platform? Does anyone have experience running ECSmail or AIRmail (DOS/Windows based)? any comments would be greatly appreciated. Charles Duncan CCIS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:27:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29114; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22688; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:22:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu:brentb@orca.fhcrc.org> Received: from arizvm1.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22682; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:22:32 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 05 Aug 94 09:22:41 MST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA69403; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:23:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 09:18:18 -800 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software To: Nancy McGough Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It works in under OS/2 using IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 telnet capabilities (provided you have updated to the latest corrective service diskettes - readily available). I do this using both a token ring network connection and SLIP from home. I agree this is a wonderfully liberating feature. Please post a summary. Thanks. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On 4 Aug 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > Hi All, > > One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi > print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some > communication software, for example it doesn't work in either > MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with > DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that > it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students > (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could > either send me email or post a followup to this article saying > what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. > > I'll post the list. > > Thanks much, > Nancy > nancym@ii.com > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 09:41:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29785; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:41:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22801; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22794; Fri, 5 Aug 94 09:27:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWRZe-000012C; Fri, 5 Aug 94 08:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leiman@dshp02.ntc.nokia.com (Leiman Ian) Subject: Re: Looking for Spruce... Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:35:09 GMT Message-Id: <31tm7d$fau@noknic.nokia.com> References: <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr> In article <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr>, calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) writes: |> Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? I am the author of Spruce. Unfortunately I have been so busy with my work since May that I haven't had any time to finish Spruce up to distribution quality yet. The summer has also been so nice that I've spent all my spare time outdoors. When the autumn rains begin, that's when it's good time to start writing code again. Hope that doesn't come too soon :-) I have also been waiting for PINE 3.90 release, and hoping to upgrade Spruce to same level at once. Those who are interesed and have a decent WWW client can take a look at some documentation I started in May at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html Especially interesting should be the interface description with screen captures at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/interface.html One can also download an uuencoded demo executable for HP9000/7xx. The WWW server is located in Finland (see /~leiman/Finland.html) so the network connection may s l o w from somewhere like Seattle, or even down sometimes. The source code of Spruce is at an ugly messy state and I ought to clean the source directory up before I dare to show that stuff publicly. This is an idea I have been thing for some time: ================================================ As soon as I find time, I'll start a major cleanup at Spruce source directory and put it all publicly available through HTML hypertext links. The HTML would also document the code a bit, making it reasonably easy to see the structure of the code. How does this sound? I also have to figure out how to configure my httpd (WWW server) to act as an ftp proxy, so that I could distribute source code and compiled binaries from my own host. The biggest problem here is to assure system security against hacker penetration. I have been contacted by many people who have expressed a keen interest in porting the Spruce code for various platforms. Perhaps this way also compiled binaries can be provided. Currently I have very little time to read news, so I may not read this newsgroup too often. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 10:10:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00983; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:10:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09817; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:05:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09811; Fri, 5 Aug 94 10:05:49 -0700 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa12253; 5 Aug 94 13:05 EDT Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA13717; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:05:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 13:05:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steven D. Majewski" Subject: Re: Pine, XBiff, and Icons? To: "Gary N. Boone" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31rqqt$hp0@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Aug 1994, Gary N. Boone wrote: > Or better yet, what are your creative ways of running pine under X > such that it lets you know when new mail has arrived? > Just leave Pine running in an xterm window, and shrink it down to about 8 lines. Pine will notify you of new mail, plus you will have a display of the last couple of messages so you don't have to do anything else to check to make a good guess it it's urgent or junk mail. ( The "+" in the display is always a good clue! ) - Pine: a better xbiff than xbiff! - Steve Majewski (804-982-0831) - UVA Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 12:23:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06712; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:23:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12606; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:16:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12600; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:16:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWUDv-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marilyn@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Macgician!) Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 14:10:46 -0400 Message-Id: References: <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <31pn9b$r86@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (Ritesh Patel) wrote: + How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? + + For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would + to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. Edit your .pinerc file and make the following option Yes. # If "yes" default folder name to sender when saving mail elm-style-save=yes -- @|\@@ Marilyn@monroe.temple.edu http://monroe.temple.edu - @@@@ These views are Orders in Pride Land, where no Hyenas live. /7 @@@@ Mophusa: Everything that the light touches is mine. / @@@@@@ Simbha : Everything, hmmm..what about the Dark Side. \-' @@@@@@@@`-________________ -@@@@@@@@@ Lion King / \ _____/ /_ ______/ |_____- /,________/ `-.___/,__________-----_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 13:21:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08940; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:21:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28115; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28109; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWV7R-00000aC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: 5 Aug 1994 12:11:59 -0700 Message-Id: <31u2tv$7d3@gibeah.connected.com> References: <31nlnn$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> > > Don't you think Pine 3.89 is already a very good and cool mailer ? I really > > prefer to wait for release 3.90 rather than having to pay for an equivalent > > mailer with weekly releases !!! Great job has already been done within Pine > > I'm convinced the next release will be very satisfying too... even if coming > > a little bit late ! > I for one agree. Pine 3.89 doesn't do everything we would like but it Hmm... I never really thought of it that way, being the spoiled person I am. I just want it to come out for my internet provider to tack it up, and then I can FLAG messages for once.. =) -- |------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates| | | \________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 14:08:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10661; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:08:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29062; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29056; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWVqn-00000nC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: das@panix.com (David Staschover) Subject: changing the "From:" domain name Date: 5 Aug 1994 16:03:43 -0400 Message-Id: <31u5uv$h3h@panix.com> Hello, Our system has 2 domain names. Sendmail uses aliases to handle incomming mail sent to either domain. I am trying to configure it so some users appear as user1@domain1.com others as user2@domain2.com. I don't know sendmail well enough to do it thru sendmail.cf. I was wondering if there is a way to set it in .pinerc. I tried setting user-domain but that didn't seem to work. Please respond via email if possible. Thanks in advance, David Staschover das@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 14:13:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10987; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:13:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14649; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14643; Fri, 5 Aug 94 14:02:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWVoX-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 13:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu (Jim Boyer) Subject: vacation -- where can I find it? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 19:39:18 GMT I am looking for the utility called vacation. Does anybody know where I can get a ftp download of this program? Thanks Jim Boyer e-mail: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu Washington State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 15:17:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13458; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:17:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16156; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16150; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:10:14 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HFJZ5PEOF48WYLAK@asu.edu>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:11:14 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113180>; Fri, 5 Aug 1994 15:09:59 -0700 Date: Fri, 05 Aug 1994 15:09:58 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Test Checklist To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I was going through the "checklist of some things to check when testing a new port" in the Pine Technical Notes. I ported Pine to VM/CMS... Just kidding! = ) I was testing Pine 3.89 on Solaris. The "#" command on main menu with debug level 9 resulted in the following: Bug in Pine detected: "Testing panic". Exiting pine. Abort What does this all mean? Another item in the checklist is "Pinef." Pine what? Thanks! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 16:07:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15289; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:07:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17293; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17287; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:02:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWXjN-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jd4192@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (demaster jonathan p) Subject: use of .pinerc file Date: 5 Aug 1994 20:53:42 GMT Message-Id: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I jusr recently learned that pine can be used to read subscribed mail and I like it. This is what spurredmy interest in this newsgroup. It seems that I can't post from pine. Is this true. Also , I would like to know what to do to add a image veiwer to pine . thanks jon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 16:20:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15669; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:20:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01772; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:16:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01766; Fri, 5 Aug 94 16:16:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWXuB-00000OC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 15:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: 5 Aug 1994 21:03:10 GMT Message-Id: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks David Allred DataCal corproation datacal@indirect.com davida@datacal.com tolar@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 17:57:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19184; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:57:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19749; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:53:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19743; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:53:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWZUB-00000FC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Session is READ-ONLY Date: 3 Aug 1994 13:48:08 GMT Message-Id: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Hi, I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it. When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) whether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after I logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the background. What's up with this?? BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :) !#!A%*#@@*%g&#@(#%!*&g@#))%&)#i%%!*@@e@#(&%s@)#!%*&#s*)@#u&@#)c!%@!k)#%!&@*)#* --JSA Texas-Ex (Hook 'em Horns!) -- --Tulane Medical School SEISA Exec. Vice-President -- #*@H%#)%%o#@)&@*o)#@!#k&*@#*@e&*#@m&!&*@#@&%H*)@#o&%)*r!@#!n&%*@#s%)&%@%#(#%&^ --- You only live once, but hey, who's counting? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 18:21:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19689; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:21:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04246; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04240; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:17:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWZtG-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 17:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) Subject: Reply to: header in Pine? Date: 5 Aug 1994 17:32:54 -0600 Message-Id: <31ui76$lec@u.cc.utah.edu> I was wondering how I can configure Pine to send out a Reply to: field in addition to the From: field... I'm running a Linux machine and SLIP/PPP. I would like to send mail from my home computer with the from: field intact, while adding a Reply to: field so that I can get a reply at another e-mail account..... I've checked the tech-docs and tried tweeking the .pinerc file myself... but I still havn't figured out how to do it... if someone can help, please e-mail me... thanks! mike -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Michael A. Chang | /----------- machang@xmission.com -------------\ | |==================| /------------- PGP key via finger ---------------\ | | SLIPping the Net |/-------- http://www.xmission.com/~machang --------\| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 18:30:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19893; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:30:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20264; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:26:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20258; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:26:40 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qWaYx-0003LqC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:28 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? To: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 18:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> from "Data Cal Corp." at Aug 5, 94 09:03:10 pm Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 722 > > I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would > get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP > using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of > the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks > We have pine binaries on ftp.celestial.com that work with smail-3.1.28 (drop-in replacement for sendmail). I've been told that they should work with mmdf, but since I don't do mmdf here or at any of my client sites I can't verify that. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20760; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20890; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20861; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:08:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapK-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: ^Z in PICO Message-Id: <31ukvv$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:20:15 GMT References: Marcos Rubinstein (pucho@netcom.com) wrote: > Help... is there any way to "activate" ^Z in Pico (or any other key > combination that would temporarily stop pico, allowing me to resume with fg) > (no problem with pine, unless... I'm editing mail with pico, in which > case I need to use ^O -postpone- and then ^Z... but if I'm using pico as > an editor in my shell or in tin... I couldn't find a way to do that...) Just set up an alias like: alias pico 'pico -z' Simple enough. And of course, as always, RTFM!! -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20764; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04930; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04915; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:09:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapP-00000kC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: CC: to Self; Changing INBOX default Message-Id: <31ula8$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:25:44 GMT References: <31r7u0$c4b@apollo.it.luc.edu> Jonathan L. Witt (jwitt@orion.it.luc.edu) wrote: > > 1) How can I get it to automatically send myself a copy of message I send > out. I tried to setup the .pinerc file so that fcc would save a copy to > a folder, but have not had any success yet. While I could just specify > my own address in the CC: field every time a send a message, there must > be an easier way. Include this in your .pinerc file: default-fcc=outgoing > 2) When I start pine it tries to open the INBOX folder, which has no > messages, becasue new messages on our system show up in a NEWMAIL > folder. What I'd like to do is either: a) get pine to start up looking > in the newmail folder (I'd prefer this); of b) get my new mail to appear > in the INBOX folder. > > 3) Is there, or is there not, a Pine FAQ? Dunno about the FAQ, but the answer of both of your questions are in the man pages & online help. Hack around. > I think part of my troubles are due to the fact that I'm running Pine on > a VMS/VAX system, and the setup is designed with something else in mind > (Unix, PC?). I can't find a reason why it could, but again, I cannot find a reason why it couldn't. -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:13:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20799; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:13:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20903; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:10:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20897; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:10:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWapQ-00000mC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 18:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) Subject: Re: Need Help with PINE Message-Id: <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> Date: 6 Aug 1994 00:29:26 GMT References: Abe_Rice (arice@dorsai.org) wrote: > I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. > > 1. whenever I reply (mail) from within PINE it gives me a message that > 'permision denied'. The mail however does get to where it was sent. You may have changed the access to critical files and/or directories. If you don't know what I'm talking about, seek help from the sysadms at your site. They can fix it for you as well. > 2. How can I save a letter? Check the shortcut keys that appear at the bottom of the screen!!!!!!!! > 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It > would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. I don't understand what you're asking. -Rog From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 19:57:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21495; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:57:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05515; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:53:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05509; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:53:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWbUq-00000FC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: Encryption Message-Id: <1994Aug5.190442.24604@cc.usu.edu> Date: 5 Aug 94 19:04:41 MDT References: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine will support encryption in the future, but the exact implementation is >still up in the air. Suggestions and comments are welcome... > >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >On 27 Jul 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > >> I suspect this is a can of worms post, but here it goes. :-) I am >> wondering what the plans are for PINE and encryption. Is PGP, PEM, >> an API or none of the above the direction that PINE is going to take? >> We have a new committee on electronic forms being formed right now >> and I think they are leaning towards PEM. >> >> By the way, if any of the ISA Corp people read this, what is the >> direction of ECS Mail? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> -- >> Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas >> billy@utdallas.edu >> >> Until then, I have a c-shell script (inspired by mkpgp) you can use as an interface to pgp. In a compose window you: use the editor of your choice, send encrypted attachments (as .tar.Z.uu in the message text, encrypt a message, sign a message. In a reply/forward you: use the editor of your choice, decrypt, extract encrypted attachments from the message text, check signatures, add public keys. You can get it by (1) sending your pgp public key to deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with (2) a promise not to laugh out loud at the code. (I'm not much of a programmer :-) -- kc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 20:17:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21844; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05800; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05794; Fri, 5 Aug 94 20:14:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWbq4-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 19:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atl-aust@adam.com.au (Neil Le Quesne) Subject: Redefining Keys in Pine Date: 6 Aug 1994 11:27:56 +0930 Message-Id: <31uqn4$l5e@eve.adam.com.au> Could anyone tell me if it is possible to redefine keys in pine, so that the & cursor keys can be used to navigate through folders and indexes in a similar way to tin ? Many thanks, Neil. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 5 21:40:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23247; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:40:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06842; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:35:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@css585.gordon.army.mil:cheekg@emh1.gordon.army.mil> Received: from css585.gordon.army.mil by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06836; Fri, 5 Aug 94 21:35:40 -0700 Received: from EMH1.GORDON.ARMY.MIL by css585.gordon.army.mil (5.59/25-eef) id AA00089; Sat, 6 Aug 94 00:21:49 EDT Message-Id: <9408060421.AA00089@css585.gordon.army.mil> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 94 0:30:05 EDT From: "CPT Gorrell P. Cheek" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine for a 3B2 (SV3) Organization: Battle Command Battle Laboratory (Gordon) I am trying to port pine to a 3B2. Has anyone been successful? Is there a port available that would save me a lot of work. My 3B2 is running ATT System V V3. thanks, gorrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 00:10:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25551; Sat, 6 Aug 94 00:10:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25334; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25328; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:59:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWfMA-00000JC; Fri, 5 Aug 94 23:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: draziw@netcom.com (Ryan) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Message-Id: References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 06:09:10 GMT Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: [stuff deleted] : It would be great if people could either send me email or post a : followup to this article saying what comm software that you know it does : or doesn't work with. Works great with QmodemPro for dos. Ryan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 05:11:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02526; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:11:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13928; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:03:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13921; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:03:55 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA09572; Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:10:01 -0400 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:10:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: vacation -- where can I find it? To: Jim Boyer Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, Jim Boyer wrote: > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 19:39:18 GMT > From: Jim Boyer > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: vacation -- where can I find it? > > I am looking for the utility called vacation. Does anybody know where I can > get a ftp download of this program? > > Thanks > > Jim Boyer > e-mail: boyerj@coopext.cahe.wsu.edu > Washington State University > > Jim, There are a number of places where you can obtain vacation, mostly depending on what system you are running, for each is a bit different. I will give you two sites. First, ftp to unix.hensa.ac.uk or you can check plaza.aarnet.edu.au . Good luck. Hope this helps Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 * | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 06:53:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04165; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:53:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15434; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15428; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWlii-00000HC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Need Help with PINE Date: 6 Aug 1994 08:23:16 -0500 Message-Id: <9408061329.AA22045@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu> In article <31ulh6$agq@scunix2.harvard.edu>, bernal@husc7.harvard.edu (Rogelio Bernal) write: |> Abe_Rice (arice@dorsai.org) wrote: |> > I am new to PINE and I have some questions if someone can help me. |> > I'll try to answer to the original poster ... |> > 2. How can I save a letter? |> Check the shortcut keys that appear at the bottom of the screen!!!!!!!! You save a mail your received in a folder of your choice using the "S" command (that's the above reply) You save OUTGOING mail you send in a folder of your choice by : moving the cursor to the header of the mail being composed pressing control-R to get a Rich header filling the Fcc: field (Folder-Carbon-Copy) |> |> > 3. How can I have pine automaticaly save the FROM in eache letter? It |> > would be nice if it only saved the new ones, namely only uniqe ones. |> I don't understand what you're asking. I'll try to guess what the original poster asked. either the second of my replies to question 2 (save outgoing mail) or a way of saving incoming mail by folders according to the mail sender. I do not know a way of doing this automatically (like NOTEBOOK with VM Rice Mail), I know a feature called "elm-style-save" exists in .pinerc but I've never used. of a way of saving the addresses of the senders in the addressbook which can be done using the T ("Take Address") command -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 07:52:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05015; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:52:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03245; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:44:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03238; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:44:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qWmcK-00000HC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 07:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roseman@janu.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Mark Roseman) Subject: Imap mac clients (was: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions) In-Reply-To: charles@umbc.edu's message of 2 Aug 1994 11:31:10 -0400 Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 1994 20:30:20 GMT In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) writes: Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds want to know. as has been mentioned, the pine character based user agent is inappropriate for mac systems, so even if anyone did a port it would be pretty vile. :-) on the mac side, mailstrom is available, with a mime version in beta test right now.. not sure what the dates are for that to progress, i gather adam is mainly doing other things now, so its coming slower than otherwise. but from what i've seen, a very good piece of work so far. on the commercial side, isa has a version of ecsmail for the mac in late beta-test, an imap client supporting a full graphical interface. i won't say anymore since i'm one of the authors of that system. mark -- ============================================================================== Mark Roseman --- Groupware'R'Us Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alta. T2N 1N4 (403) 220-7691 roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fax: (403) 284-4707 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 08:37:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05694; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:37:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03872; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:29:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03866; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:29:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25643; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:28:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:28:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Roseman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Imap mac clients (was: IMAP.mailstrom.pine questions) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In addition to Mailstrom and ECSmail... Another possibility is Mail Drop by Carl Bell at Baylor University. See /pub/bell/Mail_Drop on ackmo.baylor.edu The development version dated 8/4/94 appears to have the beginnings of MIME support. -teg On Fri, 5 Aug 1994, Mark Roseman wrote: > In article <31loruINN9bk@umbc7.umbc.edu> charles@umbc.edu (Charles Myers) writes: > > > Is there or will there be a pine for macintosh? The other versions work > really well, you're right, so why not a mac version?!? Inquring minds > want to know. > > as has been mentioned, the pine character based user agent is > inappropriate for mac systems, so even if anyone did a port it > would be pretty vile. :-) > > on the mac side, mailstrom is available, with a mime version in > beta test right now.. not sure what the dates are for that to > progress, i gather adam is mainly doing other things now, so its > coming slower than otherwise. but from what i've seen, a > very good piece of work so far. > > on the commercial side, isa has a version of ecsmail for the mac > in late beta-test, an imap client supporting a full graphical > interface. i won't say anymore since i'm one of the authors > of that system. > > mark > > > -- > ============================================================================== > Mark Roseman --- Groupware'R'Us > Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alta. T2N 1N4 > (403) 220-7691 roseman@cpsc.ucalgary.ca Fax: (403) 284-4707 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 6 23:00:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18943; Sat, 6 Aug 94 23:00:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16380; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16374; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:54:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qX0Zz-00000JC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 22:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Any readers sort incoming by username? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 05:03:06 GMT Are there any mail readers that can sort the incoming mail by username? Lets say my wife and I share an account, and we have wildcard forwarding so all mail comes in regardless if the username is typed correctly or not. I want incoming mail to user 'abc' to go to folder A and incoming mail to user 'def' to go to folder B, automatically. Then when I logon I would not look at the incoming mail like I do now, but rather just go right to folder A, and the wife would go straight to folder B. Which mail readers do this, and which is best? Thanks, Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 00:43:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20780; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00756; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:33:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00750; Sun, 7 Aug 94 00:33:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qX24b-00000JC; Sat, 6 Aug 94 23:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: HP "sent-mail is locked" ERROR Date: 7 Aug 1994 06:48:56 GMT Message-Id: <32204o$1g9@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <31n7cf$igo@condor.ic.net> Timothy Kulig (tim@systel.com) wrote: : Mail has been working fine as far as UUCP, but when I first started using : pine on the HP, I noticed it said it could not access sendmail in : : /usr/lib/sendmail. I noticed the permissions set 000. So it could not : be accessed. (Actually when it's like that everything works fine.) : So now I turn on sendmail with 777 permissions and use pine, and I : get that stupid 'Folder "sent-mail" is locked, Blah Blah.' It sounds like it is the _file_ "sent-mail" within the "mail" subdirectory in your home directory that is causing the problem, and not "sendmail" in /usr/lib. The problem could be improper permissions on the home directory (or any parent directory), the mail subdirectory, or the actual sent-mail file. It could also be caused by NFS file locking if you are mounting your home directory. The NFS file locking problem is fixed by several patches. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 09:34:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00997; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:34:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08798; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:24:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08792; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:24:56 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qXB3m-0003HmC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:26 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: Any readers sort incoming by username? To: kjs@rahul.net (Kevin J. Sinclair) Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 09:26:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Kevin J. Sinclair" at Aug 7, 94 05:03:06 am Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 2417 > > Are there any mail readers that can sort the incoming mail by username? > Lets say my wife and I share an account, and we have wildcard forwarding > so all mail comes in regardless if the username is typed correctly or > not. I want incoming mail to user 'abc' to go to folder A and incoming > mail to user 'def' to go to folder B, automatically. Then when I logon I > would not look at the incoming mail like I do now, but rather just go > right to folder A, and the wife would go straight to folder B. > > Which mail readers do this, and which is best? Thanks, > This isn't really the job of the mail reader, but of a Mail Delivery Agent (MDA) like Chip Salzenberg's deliver program which can put incoming mail into different mailboxes based on any selection criteria you specify. For instance, with deliver I put something in my $HOME/.forward file like: "|/usr/lib/mail/deliver bill" My MTA (Mail Transport Agent) sees this and pipes the mail message to the deliver program (WITH USER-ID SET TO bill which eliminates many potential security problems). Deliver looks for a $HOME/.deliver program which is any executable program (I use perl scripts) and executes that program looking at its standard output to determine what to do with the mail message. It the simplest form a shell script could do several things: user=$1 # this saves user name which is first argument echo $user # this would tell deliver to put it in my system inbox. print "$user:$HOME/Mail/inbox1"; # save in specified mailbox. echo DROP # send to /dev/null -- it's probably junk. exit 0; Deliver splits the mail into separate $HEADER and $BODY files and sets various environment variables like $SENDER (originator of the message) which make it easy for the user to do things without having to parse the mail message. For instance, if I want to send all mail that originates from president@whitehouse.gov where it belongs using a shell script it might be: case "$SENDER" in #{ president@whitehouse.gov: echo DROP;; *) echo $1;; esac #} Other programs like Elm's filter do much the same thing. I like deliver because I don't have to learn a new language, but can use whatever is most comfortable for me. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 09:45:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01197; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:45:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26368; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26362; Sun, 7 Aug 94 09:37:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXAVR-00000zC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 08:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lanny@crl.com (Lanny Finch) Subject: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 7 Aug 1994 08:47:26 -0700 Message-Id: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? I've read the man but can't locate such an option. Sure would save me a bit of time cycling thru the program (and reassuring it 'yes, I REALLY REALLY want to leave Pine'). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 11:15:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02564; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:15:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10291; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:07:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10279; Sun, 7 Aug 94 11:07:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXByg-00000mC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjfec@westminster.ac.uk (gjfec) Subject: signitures in pine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 14:41:17 GMT From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 14:05:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05307; Sun, 7 Aug 94 14:05:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29899; Sun, 7 Aug 94 13:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tiamat.umd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29893; Sun, 7 Aug 94 13:58:23 -0700 Received: from cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (clp@cw-u01.umd.umich.edu [141.215.69.4]) by tiamat.umd.umich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA00654; Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:17 -0400 Received: (clp@localhost) by cw-u01.umd.umich.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA02745; Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:20 -0400 Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 16:58:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ritesh Patel Subject: Re: Automatic filing of incomming mmail??? To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thank you for the suggestions. We have the filter program on our system and since this is also the easier one to use I gave it a try. Only one problem, ... when I put the line | /usr/local/bin/filter -o~/.elm/clp.filter_errors in my .forward file all my mail goes no where. It gets returend to the sender. Any ide why? On Thu, 4 Aug 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 4 Aug 1994, Ritesh Patel wrote: > > > How do I file my incomming mail automatically into folders? > > > > For example I receive the newsletter Edupage every other week. I would like it > > to be automatically filed in a folder names edupage. > > Simple.... pick up a "filter" program such as procmail or deliver > or filter (from the elm distribution). > > The most comprehesive (IMHO) is procmail.....from the FAQ: > > A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. > The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: > > ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.112.172) > > Ed > > --------------------------- Ritesh Patel rhpatel@aol.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 16:09:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07277; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:09:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01907; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:02:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01901; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:02:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXGVJ-00000tC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 15:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omega@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (YANG CHER CHIANG) Subject: Help needed: Procmail installation problem Message-Id: <1994Aug7.162732.70131@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 7 Aug 94 16:27:31 CDT Hi, there. Whoever has installed Procmail before, can you help me? I'm having a hard time installing it, and it asked for a lot of stuffs which I'm not too familiar since I'm a new UNIX user. I think I have kind of installed it (minus a few directories here and there), but how on earth do you use it with PINE? Thanks for any kind souls' help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 16:54:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08030; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:54:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:44:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15069; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:44:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXHG8-00000xC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 16:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) Subject: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:04:02 GMT Message-Id: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> References: And David L Miller spake unto the masses: >On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: >> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use >> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? > >Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care >of that. I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine configuration for our system (same used by ELM so people can go back and forth). But since this change I've noticed that when a new user cranks up pine for the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I assume its hard coded into pine to create a ~/mail on start up, but since for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? Can this be fixed in future versions, so that it reads the variable in the config file first and create that directory if it doesnt exist? I assume there is a hack I can make to the code to tell pine to create and look for ~/Mail instead of ~/mail? -- _O_ Ryan L. Watkins vamp@csulb.edu | Academic Computing Services CSU Long Beach - Network Support | finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu for pgp public key From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 19:53:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11588; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:53:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05345; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05339; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXKJC-00000FC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 19:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez008076@chip.ucdavis.edu (Asteroid #1824) Subject: Pine and Mac don't mix? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 01:51:40 GMT OK, this is more a question about Pico: I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the "control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out why this "^^" does not work. Anyone has experienced the same? Thanks ****************************** *Gloria Mercado-Martin * *Dept. Viticulture & Enology * *University of California * *Davis CA 95616 * ****************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:35:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12374; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:35:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18435; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18429; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:08 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12317; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:22:08 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03081; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:35:51 -0700 Received: from news.infinet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14462; Sat, 6 Aug 94 05:35:49 -0700 Received: by mail.infinet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qWkz8-000DR7C; Sat, 6 Aug 94 08:36 EDT Date: Sat, 6 Aug 1994 08:36:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Harvey I" Subject: PGP Script To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 20:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Dear Sir/Madame: I sent the below mail and and it bounced, but it was originally a message addressed to your office about PGP Script listed below. Could you please tell me how to incorporate PGP 2.6 into my pine .profile, so that I may use encryption with the Pine 3.89 program. Thank you in advance. Yours, DMH > Dear Mr. Hayden: > > I recently downloaded a version of PGP 2.6, and read about incorporating > it into my Pine 3.89 by means of a script or batch file. Not being a > programmer, I left messages with Pine and with Philip Zimmerman. However, > when I queried WWW about PGP Script, your message to owner-pine-info > appeared. To wit: > > #!/bin/sh > pico -z -t $1 > pgp -sat $1 > mv $1.asc $1 > > armor=on > textmode=on > > I believe the first to be the .profile and the second to be the > configuration for pgp. Can you give me specifics so I can implement this > script? Your help in this would be greatly appreciated. > > DMH **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version 2.6 mQCNAi5A1woAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fA12Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWlvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:51:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12859; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:51:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18797; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:44:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18790; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:44:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXLC2-00000FC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gillman@almaak.usc.edu (Howard A. Gillman) Subject: Re: Pine and Mac don't mix? Date: 7 Aug 1994 20:16:03 -0700 Message-Id: <32481j$fou@almaak.usc.edu> References: ez008076@chip.ucdavis.edu (Asteroid #1824) writes: >OK, this is more a question about Pico: >I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the >"control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can >use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out >why this "^^" does not work. >Anyone has experienced the same? Exact same problem from both my IIsi and my old SE. I posted the problems a few months back and got some suggestions for workarounds (I think involving or something--I'd have to check my notes) but it didn't work. Very frustrating. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 20:58:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13082; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:58:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06372; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:54:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06366; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:54:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXLNT-00000HC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikee@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Michael John Ellis) Subject: compiling under solaris Date: 7 Aug 1994 23:17:36 -0400 Message-Id: <32484g$p35@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> Has anyone been able to compile pine under solaris 2.3 using gcc? It seems like the current release is somewhat partial to Suns cc compiler. Thanks, MikeE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael John J. Ellis | Sr. Programmer Analyst | ZIMA ZUCKS! The George Washington University | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:50:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15342; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20546; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:33:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20536; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:33:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXMqB-00000VC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 21:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> A little preliminary work has been done, but we do not currently have any development underway.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Aug 1994, Guy BRAND wrote: > -- > > Back ! > > Is there any project of a port of Pine on the Macintosh ? > > Thanks > GB > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr > Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:55:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15426; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:55:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08113; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08107; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXN9T-00000HC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Is pine an NNTP newsreader? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:13:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1994, Scott Rigby wrote: > I've heard that pine can be used to access NNTP news servers to read news... > > Is this true and if so, could someone suggest an FTP site for a pine archive (preferably > already compiled for NeXT MACH) > > Regz, > > Scott.... > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 22:57:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15465; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:57:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20829; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20823; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:49:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXN9V-00000OC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> We would like this information for the Pine FAQ as well, so please post! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Aug 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > Hi All, > > One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi > print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some > communication software, for example it doesn't work in either > MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. But it does work with > DOS Kermit. I'd like to compile a list of comm software that > it does and doesn't work with that I can give to my students > (I teach Internet classes). It would be great if people could > either send me email or post a followup to this article saying > what comm software that you know it does or doesn't work with. > > I'll post the list. > > Thanks much, > Nancy > nancym@ii.com > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 7 23:16:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15835; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08411; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:10:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08405; Sun, 7 Aug 94 23:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXNST-00000PC; Sun, 7 Aug 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE for SCO, Where? Date: Sun, 7 Aug 1994 22:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31u9ef$g03@herald.indirect.com> soils.agron.iastate.edu |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: > I would like to get a copy of PINE for SCO UNIX running MMDF. I would > get sendmail running if I have to but mail now works to and from UUCP > using MMDF. If you could please let me know where I cna get a copy of > the bin files or the source so I cna compile it. Thanks > > David Allred > DataCal corproation > datacal@indirect.com > davida@datacal.com > tolar@netcom.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 02:04:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19365; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:04:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11121; Mon, 8 Aug 94 01:53:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11115; Mon, 8 Aug 94 01:53:33 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06154-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:45:21 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA12854; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:56:53 +0100 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:56:53 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: Pine and Mac don't mix? To: Asteroid #1824 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII It sounds like you are using NCSA Telnet 2.6. Versions 2.5 doesn't have this problem. Telnet 2.5 used to fiddle with the KCHR resource which maps the keyboard into the characters that actually get sent down the line to the host. This apparently caused various problems, so in version 2.6 they always honour the KCHR selected in the System. Unfortunately this means that Ctrl/^ now appears as "6". Sigh. One workaround is to type Ctrl/Shift/6 (which if you look at the keyboard really IS Ctrl/^ ... Ctrl/6 without Shift could be argued to be just that: Ctrl/6!). This works fine. Alternatively you can try using one of the alternative KCHR files that are shipped with Telnet 2.6. One of these is called "U.S. - Fixed Controls". Drag this onto your System Folder icon (it will be placed in the System file). Then use the Keyboard control panel to select it. With luck things should now work. As an aside, I found that doing this helps me with my British keyboard. The keystroke Shift/3 used to generate the hash (tic-tac-toe) sign in Telnet 2.5, but in 2.6 generates the (curly-L) pound sign actually printed on the key top. Unfortunately UNIX doesn't like this! Using the US KCHR resource fixes this too. A useful thing to know is that Command-Option-Space cycles around the KCHRs you have installed in your System (ie, those visible in the list in the Keyboard control panel). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On Mon, 8 Aug 1994, Asteroid #1824 wrote: > OK, this is more a question about Pico: > > I have a Mac LC, with a standard keyboard. When i try to use the > "control ^" feature, to mark text for cutting, i end up typing "6". I can > use "^K", "^Y", "^X", and many others; however, i still haven't figured out > why this "^^" does not work. > > Anyone has experienced the same? > > Thanks > > > ****************************** > *Gloria Mercado-Martin * > *Dept. Viticulture & Enology * > *University of California * > *Davis CA 95616 * > ****************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 02:56:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20147; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:56:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24759; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:50:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24753; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:50:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXQqS-00000yC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 02:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: folder update Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 08:44:30 GMT Hi, I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting and restarting of course ;) Regards, Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 04:47:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23071; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:47:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13722; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:39:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13716; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:39:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXScZ-00000aC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 04:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: warrior@infinet.com (David M. Harvey) Subject: Need PGP Script for Unix Pine 3.89 Date: 8 Aug 1994 06:15:07 GMT Message-Id: <324ihb$lan@rigel.infinet.com> Hey guys, I'm looking for a working Pretty Good Privacy 2.6 Script to interface with Unix Pine 3.89. From what I've seen it can be invoked by script when the .pinerc alt.editor configuration is used from the old-growth setup. Do any of you have a working script that works that way? If you do, would you be willing to share it? Any help in this area appreciated. I have already written to Philip Zimmerman of PGP, and to David L Miller of UW, coauthor of PINE to no avail. I guess they don't need any legal problems by officially sanctioning the use of PGP with its intergration into PGP, I can understand. But I am sure, that there is someone more adept than myself, who likes a challenge, doesn't mind that Big Brother is watching, and would be glad to encourage others to get some privacy without major hassles interfacing software. DMH -- **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi5AlwoAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fAl2Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWIvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 06:34:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25081; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15340; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:29:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mason1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15334; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:29:09 -0700 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA19320; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:28:58 -0400 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:28:58 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Subject: Re: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] To: VampLestat Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There are two directories you have to change (in the .pinerc file) "folder-collections" and "mail-directory". The mail-directory is where postponed and interrupted messages are held. If you change both of these to "Mail", then pine shouldn't create the "~/mail" directory. ----- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University On 7 Aug 1994, VampLestat wrote: > And David L Miller spake unto the masses: > >On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: > >> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use > >> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? > > > >Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care > >of that. > > I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine > configuration for our system (same used by ELM so people can go back and > forth). > > But since this change I've noticed that when a new user cranks up pine for > the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I > assume its hard coded into pine to create a ~/mail on start up, but since > for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 07:08:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25845; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29049; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:02:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29043; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:02:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXUqE-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 06:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lc@oasis.icl.co.uk (Liam Crilly) Subject: Re: Session is READ-ONLY Message-Id: References: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 11:37:40 GMT Jay Allen wrote: [...] ğWhen I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, ğit is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) ğwhether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after ğI logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the ğnetwork (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the ğbackground. What's up with this?? You may have no "jobs" running in background but there may well be a pine process running in background. I don't know what type of unix you're on so either `ps -ux` or `ps -fu ` should show _all_ of your processes including those not tied to a tty. If there is a stray pine process then kill it with `kill -9 ` If not, then something's gone wrong somewhere and you'll have to delete the lock file. This should be called something like: /tmp/.\var\mail\user or: /tmp/.\usr\spool\mail\user Delete that file and your INBOX should become writeable again. Hope that works/helps, Liam. -- 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 Liam Crilly 8"88"""8P"48"V"8 8 "88 88 " 8 8 lc@oasis.icl.co.uk 8 "88 88 " 8 8 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk 8oo8ooo8o8o8oYo8 ++ Performance Benchmarking Unit, Client-Server Systems, ICL, Bracknell. ++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 08:02:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26808; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:02:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16807; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:55:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from imsasun.imsa.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16801; Mon, 8 Aug 94 07:54:58 -0700 Received: by imsasun.imsa.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1/ORC/ARA/(PH)1.4b) id AA13738; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:54:53 CDT Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 09:54:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Bill Gramley Subject: subscription To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII sub bill@imsa.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 09:02:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29778; Mon, 8 Aug 94 09:02:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18428; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:56:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18416; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:56:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXWdJ-00000wC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 08:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: benc@pipeline.com (Ben Cacace) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi and communication software Date: 8 Aug 1994 11:01:33 -0400 Message-Id: <325hcd$7f5@pipe1.pipeline.com> References: <31rqth$r7m@nwfocus.wa.com> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : One of the many great features of Pine is its attached-to-ansi : print option. Unfortunately this doesn't work with some : communication software, for example it doesn't work in either : MS Windows Terminal and Delrina's WinComm. [ edited out rest of note ] I'm using ProComm Plus for Windows ver 1.02: - I can print E-Mail if it is *not* a large memo (memos of 48K or larger give me a ProComm error message). The Windows Printer Setup is HP LaserJet series iii si and the printer is an HP LaserJet series iv si. Memory in the printer is 2 MB. benc@pipeline.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 10:44:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05372; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:44:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04575; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04569; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:31:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXY4s-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pthirose@antojito.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) Subject: Re: Pine Bug - no ~/Mail directory [was Re: A few things] Message-Id: References: <323p92$ncj@garuda.csulb.edu> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 16:00:50 GMT vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu (VampLestat) writes: >And David L Miller spake unto the masses: >>On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: >>> 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use >>> my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? >>Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care This is the variable to change, just make sure you change it properly. >I used this potion to set the mail directory to ~/Mail in the global pine Nope. This isn't quite right. If you watch carefully when pine tries to create you directory (and also read the .pine-debug* files) you can tell what is going on. You should change this to *just* "Mail". No "~/" in front of it. >the first time, it dies on them because it cant find a ~/Mail folder. I >for new users there is no ~/Mail, it dies? Yes, it does die if you set the mail-directory to ~/Mail. It does not die when you set it to Mail. I don't know why but I guess the code is for it to work in your homedirectory always. A good hint is if you were to set the mail-directory to your *full* path (/users/cs/pthirose/Mail in my case) then when pine tries to create a directory, it tries to create /users/cs/pthirose/users/cs/pthirose/Mail. The first part is by default (I'm guessing) and the "repeated part" is because of what I set my mail-directory variable to. >Can this be fixed in future versions, so that it reads the variable in the Bottom line - it doesn't need to be fixed (although it should, or at least made better documented.) What you oguht to try is changing the mail-directory to just Mail instead of ~/Mail. To me, I think it's silly and both should work, but hey. Hope this helps.... PH -- I do not speak for for UC Davis, Academic Computing Services, or anyone else. Paul Hirose pthirose@engr.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 12:10:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09083; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:10:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06813; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:04:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06807; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:04:38 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HFNZJWFNU88WYO7G@asu.edu>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 12:05:50 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113364>; Mon, 8 Aug 1994 12:04:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 08 Aug 1994 12:04:14 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Great expectations To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I can't have a remote folder collection be the "default for saves" and then have the "default fcc" be a folder in the local folder collection in 3.89, as far as I can tell. Pine 3.90 will fix this, right? And it will also make me handsome and rich, right? Thanks! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 12:18:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09413; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:18:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23717; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:13:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23711; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:12:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXZiG-00000NC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 11:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrozes@musketeers.tufts.edu (Jonathan Rozes) Subject: Re: setting Reply-To header? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 17:46:32 GMT How does one go about setting the Reply-To header in an outgoing message? The preferred method would be an automatic one... Thanks, jonathan +++ Jonathan Rozes, jrozes@musketeers.tufts.edu, jrozes@emerald.tufts.edu +++ http://www.cs.tufts.edu/~jrozes/ +++ Editing simplified: A one-character RE is a RE that matches whatever the one-character RE matches. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 13:05:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11096; Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:05:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07987; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07975; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXaSM-00000NC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mba7105@u.cc.utah.edu (michael ashton) Subject: Where to find Xbiff Date: 8 Aug 1994 12:21:15 -0600 Message-Id: <325t2r$le4@u.cc.utah.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 13:06:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11169; Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:06:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07981; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from denver.ssds.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07974; Mon, 8 Aug 94 12:58:18 -0700 Message-Id: <9408081958.AA07974@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Return-Path: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 94 13:57:40 MDT From: Edwin Barnes - Denver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Misc Pine seems to have a bug when saving to boxes other than the default. I for instance use ~.elm/Mail since I used to use elm and still do for some things and the format is compatible but pine keeps trying to put in ~/"boxname" instead of ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname". If I save to the default it places the mail in the correct ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname" file. Is this a known limitation? Feature? ... Thanks. ____________________________________________________________________________ Edwin M. Barnes finger emb@ssds.com for more info ____________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 16:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19383; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29428; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:30:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29422; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:30:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXdlL-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: smiller@cyberspace.net (Steve Miller) Subject: Pine on SCO used wrong date Date: 8 Aug 1994 19:12:28 GMT Message-Id: <32602s$776@cyberspace.com> When I send mail using pine on SCO Rel 3.2 Ver 4.2 it sends the wrong date. The date is always February 23, 1970. On another system running SCO Unix Rel 3.2 Ver 2.0 pine aborts when trying to start it up. Anyone experienced these problems before? I have had pine running on a different system with SCO ODT 3.0 (same as SCO Unix 3.2 Ver 4.2) for months and it works just fine. The ones with the date problem are all fresh installs on new machines. -- Steve Miller stevem@tyrell.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 17:17:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21152; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:17:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13969; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13963; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:09:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXeNp-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu (Sean J. Crist) Subject: Installing Pine in my account Date: 8 Aug 1994 18:46:00 -0400 Message-Id: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> I've been using pine for a few years now, but I've recently gotten an account on a machine where pine is not installed. I've spoken with the system manager but I don't think I can talk him into installing pine. I'm interested in installing pine in my own account if it's not too awfully large (pico is already available on the system). The machine is running SunOS Release 4.1.3. I'm fairly new to UNIX and don't know exactly what I need to do to install Pine in my account. I've found the source code and binaries using Gopher but don't know exactly which files I need, how to install them, etc. I'd greatly appreciate it if someone would be willing to walk me through this installation, or at least point me in the right direction. Thanks muchly-- --Sean \/ __ __ _\_ --Kurisuto (kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu) --- | | \ / _| ,| ,| ----- For a free copy of the Bill of Rights, finger _| ,| ,| [_] this account. | | | [_] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 17:32:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21543; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:32:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00883; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:24:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00877; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:24:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXeZe-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 16:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: Image Viewer in Pine Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:08:15 GMT Message-Id: <326dsvINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> adjust your .pinerc at the following line # Program to view images if format such as GIF and TIFF image-viewer= after the equal sign put the name of your local image viewer such as xv etc.. -Rod rmach@engin.umich.edu CAEN hotline | U of M Solar Car From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:17:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22793; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:17:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15058; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15052; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:09:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfKL-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: use of .pinerc file Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:55:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <31u8sm$ks4@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Pine 3.89 does not support posting, but Pine 3.90 will. Take a look at the image-viewer variable in your .pinerc file. --DLM P.S. Pine 3.90 is scheduled for release about Aug 22. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Aug 1994, demaster jonathan p wrote: > I jusr recently learned that pine can be used to read subscribed mail and I like it. This is what spurredmy interest in this newsgroup. It seems that I can't post from pine. Is this true. Also , I would like to know what to do to add a image veiwer to pine . thanks jon > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:17:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22816; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:17:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01705; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01698; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:10:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfKR-00000QC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 17:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Great expectations Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Yes to your first question, but I will decline comment on the second ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 8 Aug 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > I can't have a remote folder collection be the "default for saves" and then > have the "default fcc" be a folder in the local folder collection in > 3.89, as far as I can tell. Pine 3.90 will fix this, right? And it will > also make me handsome and rich, right? > > Thanks! > > -- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 18:45:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23530; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:45:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15510; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:39:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15504; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:39:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXfk1-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 18:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: r Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:12:15 GMT Message-Id: <326e4fINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> The best mail program to use filters is definitely MH. I use it to filter mail from different people to different folders and to delete mail that is junk. If you would like an example script to do this in MH you can post to this newsgroup and I will post it. -Rod . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 20:16:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25016; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:16:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03362; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03356; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:03:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXh6e-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 19:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu Subject: Mailing Lists On Pine? Date: 8 Aug 94 21:43:44 EST Message-Id: <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Can Pine be used for a mailing list? If so how? -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave D. Cawley | Where a social revolution is pending and, University Of Scranton | for whatever reason, is not accomplished, ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu | reaction is the alternative. ddc1@SCRANTON | -Daniel De Leon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 20:16:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25045; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:16:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16815; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16809; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:04:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXh6k-00000PC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 19:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu Subject: Pine FAQ? Date: 8 Aug 94 21:49:11 EST Message-Id: <1994Aug8.214911.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Is there a FAQ for pine? If so where is it? Thanks!. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dave D. Cawley | Where a social revolution is pending and, University Of Scranton | for whatever reason, is not accomplished, ddc1@jaguar.uofs.edu | reaction is the alternative. ddc1@SCRANTON | -Daniel De Leon ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 21:13:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26101; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:13:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17767; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:05:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17761; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:05:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXi2R-00000YC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: Session is READ-ONLY Date: 8 Aug 1994 09:18:01 GMT Message-Id: <324t89$k01@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: <31o76o$5dr@news.cs.tulane.edu> Jay Allen (jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: : Hi, : I've seen it on this newsgroup, but, unfortunately, I ignored it. : When I start up Pine, it tells me that it is a read-only session. Normally, : it is because there is another session of PINE running (I already know that) : whether suspended or on another UNIX session. However, this happened after : I logged out. In other words, I have no open UNIX sessions on the : network (I checked several times) and I have no current jobs running in the : background. What's up with this?? : BTW, HELP, my mail is piling up, and I can't delete!! :) Once upon a time, you were reading mail with pine, and some form of crash occured, meaning that your system mail folder was left LOCKED. Next time(s) you invoked pine, it saw the file was locked - and therefore opened it read-only. The fact that this locked-file problem is ongoing implies to me that the files is physically locked via the .lock file extension. Check for /usr/spool/mail/jsallen.lock or /usr/mail/jsallen.lock (assuming your usercode is jsallen). Ensure you're not using mail at that point in time, and then delete it (it will be a zero-length file). You really should have just asked your System Admin/Postmaster - she could have probably helped you quicker than we have... -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 21:23:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26251; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:23:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17930; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:15:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17924; Mon, 8 Aug 94 21:15:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXiBU-00000LC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 20:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rain!tsar.Princeton.EDU!fuchs@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Ira H. Fuchs) Subject: Sorting sent-mail Message-Id: <1994Aug8.151150.25439@Princeton.EDU> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 15:11:50 GMT I was viewing my sent-mail file and I wanted to sort the file by the TO: field which seemed like a natural thing to want to do for a file containing the mail I have sent out. Unfortunately, what I found is that you can sort on the From field (pretty useless given that by definition all of the mail in this folder came from me). Is there any other easy way to do what I want from within Pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 8 22:34:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27464; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:34:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AB05345; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:30:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05339; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:30:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXjMV-00000qC; Mon, 8 Aug 94 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: max@cs.nyu.edu (David Max) Subject: taking address to mailing list Date: 8 Aug 1994 23:43:39 -0400 Message-Id: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> I keep a few distribution lists, and sometimes people email me asking to be added to a distribution list. The "take address" command only allows adding to the address list. How can I take an address and put it directly into a distribution list? -- David Max New York University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 01:01:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00668; Tue, 9 Aug 94 01:01:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07397; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:49:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07391; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:49:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXlWr-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:14:46 +0200 Message-Id: References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to > NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the > Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? Unless you must access your mailbox via IMAP you can apply the Unix file test operator for that matter: alias pine "[ -s $MAIL ] && \pine" assuming MAIL would hold the pathname to your mailbox. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 02:47:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03009; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:47:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22570; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:39:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22564; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:39:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXnHZ-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 02:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: john@hysteria.apana.org.au (John Herks) Subject: Help compiling PINE 3.87 on SVR3 Date: 9 Aug 1994 09:08:25 GMT Message-Id: <327h29$opn@werple.apana.org.au> I am trying to compile Pine 3.87 on My NCR Tower machine. I gave compiled Pico with minimal problems becuase it had a makefile.att... Pine on the other hand does not seem to have a makefile for SV R3... Any Ideas ? -- John Herks john@hysteria.apana.org.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:10:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15203; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:10:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00257; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00251; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuA4-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: taking address to mailing list Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326u1b$7jn@slinky.cs.nyu.edu> Wait for Pine 3.90 (scheduled for 22 Aug release)... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1994, David Max wrote: > I keep a few distribution lists, and sometimes people email me asking > to be added to a distribution list. The "take address" command > only allows adding to the address list. How can I take an address > and put it directly into a distribution list? > -- > David Max > New York University > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:11:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15255; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00245; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:03:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00239; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:02:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXu9l-00000LC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Installing Pine in my account Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <326cj8$kiv@chopin.udel.edu> Assuming you are on a SPARC-based machine, all you should need is the pine binary for SunOS. Download it, call it "pine", mark it executable (chmod +x pine), and you should be ready to go... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Aug 1994, Sean J. Crist wrote: > I've been using pine for a few years now, but I've recently gotten an > account on a machine where pine is not installed. I've spoken with the > system manager but I don't think I can talk him into installing pine. > > I'm interested in installing pine in my own account if it's not too > awfully large (pico is already available on the system). The machine is > running SunOS Release 4.1.3. > > I'm fairly new to UNIX and don't know exactly what I need to do to install > Pine in my account. I've found the source code and binaries using Gopher > but don't know exactly which files I need, how to install them, etc. I'd > greatly appreciate it if someone would be willing to walk me through this > installation, or at least point me in the right direction. > > Thanks muchly-- > > --Sean > > \/ __ __ _\_ --Kurisuto (kurisuto@chopin.udel.edu) > --- | | \ / > _| ,| ,| ----- For a free copy of the Bill of Rights, finger > _| ,| ,| [_] this account. > | | | [_] > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:35:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16135; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:35:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17510; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:25:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17503; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuWs-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 09:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine 3.89 setup for SCO Date: 9 Aug 1994 16:54:33 GMT Message-Id: <328cc9$4b@herald.indirect.com> I have FTPd the pine 3.89 binary for SCO UNIX from soils.agron.iastate.edu and would like to know if this program works with MMDF. I have installed the program and I get sporatic mail delivery on the system. What I am doing is using UUCP to poll mail from Netcom and then MMDF to deliver it, then for now use pine to read the mail. I plan to get SMTP gateway running and have MMDF deliver mail there for the people using PCs and pine for those who use terminals. But this problem is persistant. I sent a message to a friend in the office as a test message. he never got it. He in return sent one back to me and the same. But when I send messages to root (Superuser) it gets there. The address lines are as follows. from davida to davidp@datacal.datacal.com ---no delivery davidp@datacal.com ---no delivery root@datacal.com ---delivery root@datacal.datacal.com ---delivery from root to davida@datacal.com ---delivery davidp@datacal.com ---no delivery Any ideas????????????? David Allred DataCal Corporation datacal@indirect.com or tolar@netcom.com or root@datacal.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 10:43:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16635; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:43:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01071; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01065; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:36:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXuio-00000iC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 10:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: How do you unsubscribe to a group? Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:06:57 GMT Message-Id: <328d3h$4i8@garuda.csulb.edu> How to unsubscribe to a group? ACCESS-L What is the addres do you unsubscribe to? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 12:35:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21370; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:35:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03563; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:27:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from trocaz.yorku.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03551; Tue, 9 Aug 94 12:27:51 -0700 Received: from [Family 1: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00] ([Family 1: 00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00:00]) by trocaz.yorku.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA14239 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 9 Aug 1994 15:27:50 -0400 Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 15:27:50 -0400 From: "Pok Ng" Message-Id: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.0.1 14feb94) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: does the pc pine support MIME? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 Can someone please tell me whether the PC Pine support MIME? If the answer is yes, is there any command line args. which allow me to specify a file as an attachment ie. I just want to use PINE to send out an attachment without starting it up. -- ******************************************************************************* Pok Ng | Phone: (416) 736-2100 | UNIX Support Analyst | Computing, Communication and Instructional Services | E-Mail: pok@yorku.ca York University | 4700 Keele Street, T103 Steacie | North York, Ontario | CANADA M3J 1P3 | ******************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 16:16:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00320; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25564; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25558; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:11:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qXzwo-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 15:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: does the pc pine support MIME? Date: Tue, 9 Aug 1994 14:59:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9408091527.ZM14237@trocaz.yorku.ca> On Tue, 9 Aug 1994, Pok Ng wrote: > Can someone please tell me whether the PC Pine support MIME? Yes. > If the answer is yes, is there any command line args. which allow me to > specify a file as an attachment ie. I just want to use PINE to send out an > attachment without starting it up. > No. > -- > ******************************************************************************* > Pok Ng | Phone: (416) 736-2100 > | > UNIX Support Analyst | > Computing, Communication and Instructional Services | E-Mail: pok@yorku.ca > York University | > 4700 Keele Street, T103 Steacie | > North York, Ontario | > CANADA M3J 1P3 | > ******************************************************************************* > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 16:42:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01248; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:42:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09029; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09017; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:38:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY0GC-00001IC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: omega@falcon.cc.ukans.edu (YANG CHER CHIANG) Subject: Re: r Message-Id: <1994Aug9.174511.70300@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 9 Aug 94 17:45:10 CDT References: <326e4fINN8l3@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Rodney Mach (rmach@eecs270.engin.umich.edu) wrote: : The best mail program to use filters is definitely MH. I use it to : filter mail from different people to different folders and to delete : mail that is junk. If you would like an example script to do this in MH : you can post to this newsgroup and I will post it. : -Rod : . Please do !!! TIA. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 17:14:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02673; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:14:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26887; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:09:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26875; Tue, 9 Aug 94 17:09:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY0qF-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 16:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine config files ??? Date: 9 Aug 1994 21:35:59 GMT Message-Id: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system running. I ftp'd the pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is supposed to work with MMDF, well I missed fsome config files and I have no idea at to what they are. The file only was th bin and not the rest. I need help. Thanks David Allred From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:02:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05126; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:02:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11430; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:57:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11424; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:57:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY2Y2-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ks@cais2.cais.com (K S) Subject: Re: PC Pine... Mac Pine ? Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:21:58 GMT Message-Id: <328vi6$qek@sun.cais.com> References: <31nlr6$7s6@thot.u-strasbg.fr> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : A little preliminary work has been done, but we do not currently have any : development underway.... Gee, David, That's a shame, because it is an awfully good mailer, and slip is becomming more popular. -- ks@cais.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:21:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05498; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:21:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28666; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:09:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28660; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:09:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY2eW-00000QC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 18:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Thacker@unt.edu (Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator) Subject: Pine supporting IMSP Date: Tue, 09 Aug 1994 19:56:12 -0600 Message-Id: Having tested ECS Mail version 3 and being fairly impressed with IMSP, I wonder if Pine will eventually support the IMSP standard. IMSP stands for Internet Messaging Support Protocal (I think) and allows a mail package to store it's configuration information on some remote machine. This means that whenever I fire up a mail/IMSP client from anywhere in the world, as long as it is pointed to the proper IMSP server, all of my personal setup information (folder configuration, message services to connect to, what windows were open, what viewers to use etc....) are all downloaded and interpreted for the client that I am on. I remember reading somewhere that Pine might support the IMSP standard one day, but am curious about how soon that might be. The ISA Corp will have it ready in ECS Mail version 3 when it ships in the next month or so. Thanks again! -- Mark Thacker Internet: Thacker@unt.edu CWIS Coordinator Bitnet: MARK::UNTVAX P.O. Box 13495 817-565-2568 Denton, Texas 76203 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 19:54:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06098; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:54:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12221; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12215; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:50:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY3J0-00000aC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 19:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: Pine 3.89 on an NCR 3550 (SVR4 without sendmail)? Date: 9 Aug 1994 22:08:39 -0400 Message-Id: <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Anyone have any luck getting Pine to work on an NCR 3550 or similar AT&T SVR4 system that dosen't have sendmail on it? It compiles and works mostly OK, it reads mail OK, but chokes on sending mail. There's actually two problems here: 1) I don't know exactly what to have Pine call as its MTA, since sendmail isn't on here. Should I be calling rmail? mailx? With what args? 2) It also gives some weird errors before even getting that far. Things like "folder 'sent-mail' dosen't exist, create?'" when it does in fact exist.... if I say "y", it says it can't create it because it exists already.... if I say "n", I get an error saying "fcc of message rejected". (Whatever that means.... probably a failure to run the MTA right?) I do have write permission on ~/mail and ~/mail/send-mail, too. First thing I checked. Anyway, has anyone gotten this to fly and want to save me a little hassle? :) By the way, we have applied the patch from NCR to the mail system that keeps it from rewriting everything into stupid bang adddresses, if that helps. Thanks much, Mike Andrews, Wittenberg University -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXTmail) -- mda@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 21:41:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07894; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00827; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:38:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00821; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:38:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY53K-00000NC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 21:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bweaver@worf.infonet.net (David Morris) Subject: Pine and Digests Date: 10 Aug 1994 03:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't find it. If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing a note. -- + David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +----------+ | To make any progress we must not make speeches and organize mass | | meetings but be prepared for mountains of suffering. - M. Gandhi | +------------Disclaimer: My children don't understand me either.-----------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 9 22:36:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09010; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:36:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14387; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:29:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14381; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY5pb-00000PC; Tue, 9 Aug 94 22:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@soest.hawaii.edu (Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108,) Subject: ctrl-J in version 3.8.7 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 03:13:09 GMT We are running PINE version 3.8.7 on our Suns, both SunOS4.1.x and Solaris2.x. I have discovered that the ctrl-J method of attaching a file doesn't work. I'm not sure when it stopped (I'm not a PINE user myself but support several), with the upgrade or before (or after) but it doesn't work with either OS. Specifying the attachment in the header is fine. Any ideas? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 01:24:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12695; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:24:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03854; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:19:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03848; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:19:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY8VE-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spitz@GANS2X.ana.med.uni-muenchen.de (Richard Spitz) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 on an NCR 3550 (SVR4 without sendmail)? Date: 10 Aug 1994 07:40:08 GMT Message-Id: <32a08o$jt8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Mike Andrews (mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU) wrote: : Anyone have any luck getting Pine to work on an NCR 3550 or similar AT&T : SVR4 system that dosen't have sendmail on it? It compiles and works mostly : OK, it reads mail OK, but chokes on sending mail. What you need is another machine on your network that has sendmail or can in another way serve as an smtp server. Then you just enter that machine in your .pinerc file as "smtp-server=". You could also fiddle with the source to enter the correct call to your smtp mailing program. We had to correct the path to sendmail after it was finally installed. I wish this was a configurable parameter in .pinerc or at least a compile-time switch. Hope that helps, Richard -- +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Richard Spitz | INTERNET: spitz@ana.med.uni-muenchen.de | | EDV-Gruppe Anaesthesie | Tel : +49-89-7095-3421 | | Klinikum Grosshadern | FAX : +49-89-7095-8886 | | 81366 Munich, Germany | | +----------------------------+-------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 01:51:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13579; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:51:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17287; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17281; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:47:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY8p2-00000iC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 01:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: Help-sorting incoming mail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 07:16:31 GMT Can someone explain how filter works with Pine? I have looked at 'man pine', at 'man filter', and at .pinerc and I just don't understand it. I would like to sort my incoming mail based either on who it is from, or who it is to (lets say that the 'to' part can vary, because I have wild card forwarding on so all mail gets through regardless of the spelling, etc). Can I sort both ways? Could someone give an example? I have tried it, and when I hit enter to go to the new folder, I get a messages that the conection failed. Why is it trying to make a conection? Any help is appreciated! thanks, kevin kjs@rahul.net -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 02:38:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14523; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:38:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04818; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:31:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04812; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:31:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qY9Zy-00000fC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 04:03:50 -0500 Message-Id: <9408100909.AA25765@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> In article <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com>, lanny@crl.com (Lanny Finch) write: |> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to NOT |> go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the Unix |> prompt when the INBOX is empty? I've read the man but can't locate I am not aware of a way in Pine. But you can write a shell script around it (we have one which tests if inbox is empty : if not empty enters pine in the inbox index, if empty enters pine folder list. We get the size of inbox as (csh script) : set dim = `ls -s /var/spool/mail/$USER` (actualy we do an rsh in some cases according to where user's inbox reside, but that's our local arrangement) if ($#dim == 0) then set dim1 = 0 else set dim1 = $dim[1] endif After this massaging dim1 will contain 0 if inbox empty or not existing, non-zero otherwise -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 02:52:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14892; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:52:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05034; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:48:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ns.infinet.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05027; Wed, 10 Aug 94 02:48:47 -0700 Received: by mail.infinet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qYAHd-000DPrC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 05:49 EDT Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 05:49:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "David M. Harvey I" Subject: Subcribe to Pine-Info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subcribe pine-info **************************************************************************** No Guts, No Glory, No Honor, No Victory, Pillage, Plunder, and Take Heads! **************************************************************************** Dave Harvey Warrior@Infinet.Com PO Box 151311 Columbus, OH 43215-8311 FINGERPRINT 27 12 56 DC 99 3A 01 B8 02 91 A9 BF 85 20 2C 6D -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi5AlwoAAAEEAL8hYz2lDd1iXU8z9sN+vfAy84fAl2Wv9cNQdBkAM2hLH3S5 PZ6OnYvHc7rS66C/DNXAlDr4M+kcy+PzkW4b1DQtVMZu7v8M2ywKKy7SzXDstMOy 1oCRCGOAfgHPLpM2GWIvc/8EP5L+c4MRwA2eg9nWukBeown93VyZOOnIdMCFAAUR tCxEYXZpZCBNaWNoYWVsIEhhcnZleSBJIDxXYXJyaW9yQEluZmluZXQuQ29tPg== =TE9P -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 04:39:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18303; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:39:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19714; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:30:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19706; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:30:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYBSs-00000NC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adminpb@aau.dk (Nis Peder Bonde) Subject: support for offline mailreading in PC-pine? Date: 10 Aug 94 10:43:36 GMT Message-Id: Does PC-pine offer support for offline-mailreading over modem without using slip/ppp? I remember reading that IMAP supports it, but is it incorporated in PC-pine or will it eventually be? I think Eudora (at least the commercial version) offers this support, but I have never heard about it in Pine yet. Thanks in advance. Bonde -- "Be careful out | Nis Peder Bonde, Aarhus University among the English" | Internet: adminpb@aau.dk Phone: +45 89 42 10 68 (Eli Lapp, The Witness) | X.400: C=dk;ADMD=dk400;PRMD=minerva;O=aau;S=adminpb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:20:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21294; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:20:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21261; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:14:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from scorpio.gold.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21255; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:14:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) From: Guy Boanas Subject: Pine and interrupted mail readings To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Below is a note from a Macintosh Eudora user at our site who I'm trying to get interested in Pine. I'd be grateful if anyone could provide an explanation of what's causing the problem and what can be done in situations of this type. Guy Boanas guy@gold.ac.uk -------------- I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all 'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a Unix session, then ran PINE. PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that point? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:37:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21764; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:37:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08499; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:31:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08493; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:31:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYDJI-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@meson.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: MAIL-NEWSGROUP GATEWAY Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:02:42 GMT Message-Id: <32aj5iINN8d2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> This is not pine specific. I need to know a mail-newsgroup gateway that will allow me to send mail to email groups without LISTSERV, I am a computer consultant and this question has been presented to me. Any know of one? -Rod rmach@engin.umich.edu http://www.engin.umich.edu~/rmach CAEN hotline |U of M solar car From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 06:55:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22133; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:55:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21744; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:49:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21737; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYDdK-00000eC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 06:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danyaon@savvy.com (ACCESS Foundation) Subject: MaiLists to Databases? How? Date: 10 Aug 1994 13:18:29 GMT Message-Id: <32ak35$h6r@savvy.com> Can someone tell us if there is a utility available to convert the WHOare files resutling from MajorDomo and ListServ requests? We have received a number of lists that we'd like to add to our Address Book, but can't seem to figure out how to export them to a database and the AddBook. Any suggestions would be appreciated. ACCESS Foundation for the Disabled danyaon@savvy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:16:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22743; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:16:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09095; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09089; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:10:37 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA05998 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:10:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:10:13 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: Guy Boanas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 10 Aug 1994 14:14:14 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Eudora uses POP, not IMAP. The abort of Eudora may have left the messages in an intermediate file POP uses, typically /var/spool/mail/.userid.pop (userid being the user's actual id). If so, they were really gone from "INBOX" and IMAP was reporting the situation correctly. Once Eudora starts, probably best to let it finish what it's doing. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:35:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23235; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:35:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09366; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:29:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mason1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09354; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:29:28 -0700 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA11738; Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:28:45 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 10:28:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: "Sherry H. Lake" Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings To: Guy Boanas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Eudora uses the POP protocol and when it downloads mail it first moves all mail from the users mailbox (usually /usr/spool/mail/ - making the mailbox empty) to a "POP" file (usually /usr/spool/mail/..pop). If a user in the middle of a Eudra download aborts, the mail stays in the "pop" file. When the same user logs on to their account after the "abort" and tries pine, pine looks in the mailbox (/usr/spool/mail/). pine would only find "new" mail that came in since the download was attempted. It wouldn't find the "old" mail because it is now in a different file. You can either copy this "pop" file back to the mailbox file, or you can use pine and when you "GoToFolder" type the full name of the "pop" file (/usr/spool/mail/..pop). ----- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Guy Boanas wrote: > > Below is a note from a Macintosh Eudora user at our site who I'm trying > to get interested in Pine. > -------------- > > I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. > > I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all > 'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora > was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread > MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this > transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a > meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a > Unix session, then ran PINE. > > PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. > > When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. > > I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. > > Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is > interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that > point? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 07:48:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23508; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09584; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:41:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09578; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:41:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYEQz-00000fC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmach@meson.engin.umich.edu (Rodney Mach) Subject: MAIL-NEWSGROUP GATEWAY Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:13:44 GMT Message-Id: <32anaoINN8d2@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> To answer my question (thanks to alt.hackers for the solution) send it in the following format newsgroupname@cs.utexas.edu the subject will be post subject. -ROd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 08:33:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25059; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:33:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23407; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:27:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23401; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:26:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYF6C-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 07:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmorgan@Ra.MsState.Edu (Terry L. Morgan) Subject: attached-to-ansi Date: 10 Aug 1994 14:52:12 GMT Message-Id: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters it looks kind of goofy. Also is there a way to mark mail to print. Example mark a few messages to print instead of having to print them individually? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 09:24:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27917; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:24:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11696; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:16:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11690; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:16:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYFs9-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mda@news.Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: cmsg cancel <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Control: cancel <329cr7$n57@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Date: 10 Aug 1994 11:11:45 -0400 Message-Id: <32aqnk$s1t@news.Wittenberg.EDU> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] -- Mike Andrews -- root@fragile.termfrost.org (NeXTmail) -- mda@wittenberg.edu "To defy the laws of tradition is a crusade only of the brave..." - Primus From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:07:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29806; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:07:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25700; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:01:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25694; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:01:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGae-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine supporting IMSP Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine will support IMSP, but a specific schedule has not been set for implementation. Is ISA going to distribute/support an IMSP server, or are they relying on the server from CMU (currently in _alpha_ test)? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 9 Aug 1994, Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator wrote: > Having tested ECS Mail version 3 and being fairly impressed with IMSP, I > wonder if Pine will eventually support the IMSP standard. > > IMSP stands for Internet Messaging Support Protocal (I think) and allows a > mail package to store it's configuration information on some remote > machine. This means that whenever I fire up a mail/IMSP client from > anywhere in the world, as long as it is pointed to the proper IMSP server, > all of my personal setup information (folder configuration, message > services to connect to, what windows were open, what viewers to use > etc....) are all downloaded and interpreted for the client that I am on. > > I remember reading somewhere that Pine might support the IMSP standard one > day, but am curious about how soon that might be. The ISA Corp will have > it ready in ECS Mail version 3 when it ships in the next month or so. > > Thanks again! > > -- > Mark Thacker Internet: Thacker@unt.edu > CWIS Coordinator Bitnet: MARK::UNTVAX > P.O. Box 13495 817-565-2568 > Denton, Texas 76203 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:18:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00395; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:18:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12914; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:12:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12908; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:12:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGl2-00000pC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Digests Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Pine currently treats the digest parts as text rather than messages, so no, you cannot respond directly. We plan to improve handling of embedded messages in a future release or Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Aug 1994, David Morris wrote: > I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to > respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing > list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't > find it. > > If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing > a note. > > -- > + David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +----------+ > | To make any progress we must not make speeches and organize mass | > | meetings but be prepared for mountains of suffering. - M. Gandhi | > +------------Disclaimer: My children don't understand me either.-----------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:33:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00851; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:33:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26242; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:29:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26230; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:29:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYH3m-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duval@bismarck.heidelbg.ibm.com (DUVAL Emmanuel) Subject: Re: folder update Date: 9 Aug 1994 11:09:59 GMT Message-Id: <327o67$kln@kaa.heidelbg.ibm.com> References: |> Hi, |> |> I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. |> It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. |> Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting |> and restarting of course ;) |> Try to type $ ______________________________________________________________________________ |\_ \|\|| -' | `. -- ||||/ /7 `-._ /7 |||||/ / `-.____/ |||||||/`-.____________ \-'_ \-' ||||||||| `-._ -- `-. -/||||||||\ `` -`. |\ /||||||\ \_ | `\\ | \ \_______...-//|||\|________...---'\ \ \\ | \ \ || | \ ``-.__--. | \ | ``-.__-. | |\ \ / | |\ \ ``---'/ / | | ``--' _/ / _| ) __/_/ / _| ) __/ / _| | /,__/ /,__/ /,_/,__/_/,__/ /,__/ /,__/ DUVAL Emmanuel e-mail : duval@scinfo.u-nancy.fr ______________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:33:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00875; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:33:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26183; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:27:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26177; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:27:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGuu-00000rC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: support for offline mailreading in PC-pine? Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Not yet, but it is getting higher on the to-do list.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Aug 1994, Nis Peder Bonde wrote: > Does PC-pine offer support for offline-mailreading over modem without using > slip/ppp? I remember reading that IMAP supports it, but is it incorporated > in PC-pine or will it eventually be? > > I think Eudora (at least the commercial version) offers this support, but > I have never heard about it in Pine yet. > > Thanks in advance. > > Bonde > -- > "Be careful out | Nis Peder Bonde, Aarhus University > among the English" | Internet: adminpb@aau.dk Phone: +45 89 42 10 68 > (Eli Lapp, The Witness) | X.400: C=dk;ADMD=dk400;PRMD=minerva;O=aau;S=adminpb > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 10:37:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01013; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:37:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26325; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:32:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26317; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:32:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYGux-00000sC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 09:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 09:29:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> On 10 Aug 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: > How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? > > > Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the > screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters > it looks kind of goofy. > This is a problem with the communication software on your PC... > Also is there a way to mark mail to print. Example mark a few messages to > print instead of having to print them individually? > Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 release). --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 11:03:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01890; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:03:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13840; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:57:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13834; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:57:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYHP8-00000VC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:11:47 GMT Message-Id: <32b1oj$cu4@news.umbc.edu> References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 : release). I've been reading replys like this for a while, and I'm curious: what ISN'T going to be in 3.90? It seems to me that this is a MAJOR change, if all these new things are going to be in it, so it puzzles me as to why it isn't going to be Pine 4.00 or something. (not that it really MATTERS to me...I mean, our systems here are still using Emacs 18.59, so I don't expect us to upgrade Pine for a couple years....) -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu http://umbc8.umbc.edu/~tmeush1/ University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 11:25:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02585; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:25:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27263; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27257; Wed, 10 Aug 94 11:20:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYHpz-00000aC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 10:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@midland.co.nz (Simon Lyall) Subject: Stop deletion of sent-mail Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:46:41 GMT Message-Id: <32b3q2$rc0@news.midland.co.nz> I was wondering if there is a way to stop pine trying to delete all my old sent-mail-* boxes at the start of every month?? This is very anoying as I want to keep them, I have gone through the man page and the pinerc but I don't see any obvious option that turns this off ( No doubt it's right in front of my eyes though ). If there is no proper way will commenting out the "last prune date" or whatever near the bottom of the .pinerc work?? Thanks in advance. -- Simon J. Lyall. | Lots of Jobs | Email - simon@midland.co.nz "Inside me Im Screaming, Nobody pays any attention. " | MT. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 14:17:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09335; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:17:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17593; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:11:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17587; Wed, 10 Aug 94 14:11:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYKVp-00000PC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 20:40:54 GMT Message-Id: <32be0m$f@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> >> Question: Is there a command-line switch on Pine which tells Pine to >> NOT go into interactive mode, ie. to return you immediately to the >> Unix prompt when the INBOX is empty? > >Unless you must access your mailbox via IMAP you can apply the Unix >file test operator for that matter: > >alias pine "[ -s $MAIL ] && \pine" > >assuming MAIL would hold the pathname to your mailbox. > Can the above be modified to open an alternative folder if inbox in empty an alternative to $MAIL could be /var/spool/mail/$USER I would like pine to open my mbox where I save all messages that have been read. Richard G. McMahon | University of Cambridge | Phone(direct) 44-(0)223-337519 Institute of Astronomy | (secretary) 44-(0)223-337548 Madingley Rd | FAX 44-(0)223-337523 Cambridge | email(internet) rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk CB3 OHA | U K. | SPAN RLESIS(19463)::APM3(63521)::RGM | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 15:15:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11774; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:15:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01848; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01842; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:36 -0700 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05896; Wed, 10 Aug 94 15:10:35 -0700 From: Konrad Schroder Message-Id: <9408102210.AA05896@stein1.u.washington.edu> X-Sender: perseant@stein1.u.washington.edu Subject: Pine needed w/o Internet mail service To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 15:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 773 I just took a call this morning from a person who is trying to install Pine as an *in-house* mailing system in Alabama: that is, they don't have Internet connectivity or even a UUCP link, and coming into the lab here isn't really practical. He's willing to pay shipping, etc., if someone will send him disks containing both Unix and DOS versions of Pine. I told him I'd pass the information along to you and have you mail a response either way. His address is: Jay Bailey Emerson Electric Corp. Yellow Creek Rd. P.O. box 1439 Vernon, Alabama, 35592 Konrad Schroder perseant@u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 16:17:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14665; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:17:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20105; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20099; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:14:08 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24615; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:16:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:16:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 16:33:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15193; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:33:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20413; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20407; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:58 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17641; Wed, 10 Aug 94 16:29:52 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 11 Aug 94 01:23:32+0200 Date: 11 Aug 94 01:23:32+0200 From: Sharon Deng Message-Id: <787727*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 17:52:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18124; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:52:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04972; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:48:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04966; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:48:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYNqI-00000VC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 17:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stankerr@uiuc.edu (Stan Kerr) Subject: Pine and disk quotas Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 16:41:08 -0500 Message-Id: Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at all removing messages. Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass along the solution, we would be grateful. -- Stan Kerr, Computing & Communications Services Office/U of Illinois stankerr@uiuc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 20:29:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21058; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:29:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24014; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:25:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24008; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:25:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYQHF-00000iC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 19:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Date: 10 Aug 1994 17:31:05 -0700 Message-Id: <32brg9$36d@gibeah.connected.com> References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> > such an option. Sure would save me a bit of time cycling thru the > program (and reassuring it 'yes, I REALLY REALLY want to leave Pine'). I don't know about the former.. But, I *DO* know that you can set it so that there is no y/n question when you exit. also, because I move mail to other boxes often, I set pine so that it wouldn't question me on expunge. Check yer .pinerc file -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | jazz@gibeah.connected.com "640K outta be enough for anybody"-Bill Gates | | http://gibeah.connected.com/~jazz/jazz.homepage.html | Long Live Dhall! | \_________________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 20:51:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21470; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07317; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07310; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:48:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYQZV-00000eC; Wed, 10 Aug 94 20:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Misc Date: 9 Aug 1994 17:06:13 GMT Message-Id: <328d25$p6n@news.halcyon.com> References: <9408081958.AA07974@mx1.cac.washington.edu> emb@denver.ssds.com (Edwin Barnes - Denver) writes: >Pine seems to have a bug when saving to boxes other than the default. I >for instance use ~.elm/Mail since I used to use elm and still do for some >things and the format is compatible but pine keeps trying to put in ~/"boxname" >instead of ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname". If I save to the default it places the >mail in the correct ~/.elm/Mail/"boxname" file. >Is this a known limitation? Feature? ... I also use both Pine and Elm for mail and what I've done is link each of their folder directories (mail for Pine and Mail for Elm) to a directory called Folders. This way you avoid having to change settings in the .pinerc and elmrc. Here's one way to do this: cd mkdir Folders cp mail/* Folders/* cp -i Mail/* Folders/* mv Mail/redundant_filename Folders/new_filename ls Folders rm mail/* rm Mail/* rmdir mail rmdir Mail ln -s Folders mail ln -s Folders Mail Hope this is helpful, Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 10 22:04:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22767; Wed, 10 Aug 94 22:04:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08223; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08217; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:53 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26487; Wed, 10 Aug 94 21:54:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 21:54:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0 (was attached-to-ansi) In-Reply-To: <32b1oj$cu4@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tim, There is indeed a lot new in Pine 3.90, but there is still much more to be done, e.g. IMAP4 compatibility, hierarchy support, white pages dir. support, offline operation, additional MIME capabilities, etc, etc. We're saving "4.0" for some of those, especially IMAP4 compatibility, as in "Pine 4 supports IMAP 4". -teg On 10 Aug 1994, Tim Meushaw wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > : Not yet, but it will be available in Pine 3.90 (scheduled for Aug 22 > : release). > > I've been reading replys like this for a while, and I'm curious: what > ISN'T going to be in 3.90? It seems to me that this is a MAJOR > change, if all these new things are going to be in it, so it puzzles > me as to why it isn't going to be Pine 4.00 or something. (not that it > really MATTERS to me...I mean, our systems here are still using Emacs > 18.59, so I don't expect us to upgrade Pine for a couple years....) > > -- > ------------------------ > Timothy A. Meushaw tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu http://umbc8.umbc.edu/~tmeush1/ > University of Maryland, Baltimore County > "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 01:17:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26705; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:17:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27792; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:09:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27786; Thu, 11 Aug 94 01:09:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYUmL-00000hC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 00:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jtklehto@stekt8.oulu.fi (Janne Kukonlehto) Subject: Re: Pine and Digests Date: 11 Aug 1994 07:24:42 GMT Message-Id: <32cjnq$svi@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit David Morris wrote: > I receive a digested mailing list and sometimes it would be nice to > respond directly to the author of a piece rather than to the full mailing > list. Is there a way in Pine to do that? If it's in the help, I can't > find it. > > If not, any ideas on how to accomplish the same thing other than writing > a note. Procmail comes with program formail which can be used to transform a digest to a email folder. After transformation you can use pine to answer to the author of a piece. 1. Use pine export command to save the digest to a file and exit pine. 2. Type 'formail +1 -ds cat >~/mail/some_folder' 3. Type 'pine -f some_folder' 4. Select the piece and press 'r' (pine reply command). -- Janne Kukonlehto*jtklehto@stekt.oulu.fi*http://stekt.oulu.fi/~jtklehto From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 03:14:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29285; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:14:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12332; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:07:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12326; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:07:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYWZw-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 02:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: radix@io.com (Radix) Subject: killing unwanted mail Date: 11 Aug 1994 09:35:11 GMT Message-Id: <32crcf$egu@illuminati.io.com> Hi, I was wondering if there's a way to kill incoming mail by username or domain name when using pine (on VMS). Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 03:40:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29948; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:40:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29627; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:35:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29621; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:35:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYX3U-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: Pine 3.89 Answered becomes New when saved to a folder Date: 11 Aug 1994 10:08:05 GMT Message-Id: <32cta5$drh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am using Pine 3.89 under SunOS 4. When I use reply for a message in INBOX an A gets prefixed to signify that I have answered the email. I have configured PINE to autosave all read messages to a folder mbox. When I now open mbox the message is now flagged as N. Is this a bug/feature. This sort of defeats the purpose of the A flag, which I find very useful From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 04:12:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01299; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:12:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13298; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:07:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13292; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:07:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYXQ1-00000jC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 Message-Id: <1994Aug10.134721.825@weston.com> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 13:47:21 GMT Does anyone have this working? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 04:28:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01534; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:28:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00549; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:22:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00543; Thu, 11 Aug 94 04:22:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYXfb-00000eC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 03:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: folder update Message-Id: References: <327o67$kln@kaa.heidelbg.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 06:38:02 GMT DUVAL Emmanuel (duval@bismarck.heidelbg.ibm.com) wrote: : |> Hi, : |> : |> I very much liked the prune or folder update command of Elm. : |> It deleted marked messages and reread the incoming MBOX folder. : |> Is there any way of doing this under pine also? (except quitting : |> and restarting of course ;) : |> : Try to type $ Yes, that is en Elm... In Pine I get a folder Sort command... Any equivalence of $ in pine? ( that's what i meant, sorry for being not clear ) Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 08:20:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06263; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:20:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16410; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:13:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16404; Thu, 11 Aug 94 08:13:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYbJz-00000aC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cbodom@sunmuw1 (Brian Odom) Subject: Eudora Help?! Date: 11 Aug 1994 14:19:52 GMT Message-Id: <32dc28$1fo@Tut.MsState.Edu> Hello everyone, I know this is a PINE forum, but I don't know where else to turn. I am currently at a school that uses PINE, but am soon moving to a position at a school that uses EUDORA. Any information on this program would be appreciated. Especially information on where to find more information on the net.........Thanks in advance Brian Odom cbodom@sunmuw1.muw.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 09:40:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10339; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:40:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05568; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05562; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:32 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00897; Thu, 11 Aug 94 09:34:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Richard McMahon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 Answered becomes New when saved to a folder In-Reply-To: <32cta5$drh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This will be fixed in Pine 3.90. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 11 Aug 1994, Richard McMahon wrote: > I am using Pine 3.89 under SunOS 4. When I use reply for > a message in INBOX an A gets prefixed to signify that > I have answered the email. I have configured PINE to > autosave all read messages to a folder mbox. When I now > open mbox the message is now flagged as N. Is this > a bug/feature. This sort of defeats the purpose of > the A flag, which I find very useful > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 11:59:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16864; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:59:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08724; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08718; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:30 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08415; Thu, 11 Aug 94 11:54:29 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13124; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:53:47 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 13:53:47 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Reply-To: Alex Maldonado Subject: Re: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 To: Wes Spears Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Aug10.134721.825@weston.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We do. We just got the binaries from mail/unix-bin at ftp.cac.washington.edu and they it seems to be working just fine. - Alex M. On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > Does anyone have this working? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17228; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08936; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08930; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:42 -0700 Received: from genesis.tdhca.texas.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08569; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:03:40 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20892; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:02:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 14:02:59 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Reply-To: Alex Maldonado Subject: Re: Help: Pine and AIX 3.2.4 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9408111253.AA20805@genesis.tdhca.texas.gov> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII We do. We just got the binaries from mail/unix-bin at ftp.cac.washington.edu and they it seems to be working just fine. Although we're running on AIX 3.2 and not 3.2.4. - Alex M. On Wed, 10 Aug 1994, Wes Spears wrote: > Does anyone have this working? > > Thanks > Wes > -- > Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) > The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) > 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 13:05:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19263; Thu, 11 Aug 94 13:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09892; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:59:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09886; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:59:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYflG-00000hC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 12:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: julie@soest.hawaii.edu (Julie Jirikowic,HIG366,67108,) Subject: Re: Pine and interrupted mail readings Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 18:36:28 GMT In article 0100000@scorpio.gold.ac.uk, guy@gold.ac.uk (Guy Boanas) writes: >--------------> >I had a 'peculiarity' with Eudora (for Macintosh) and PINE this morning. > >I have been away on holiday and wanted to use PINE to quickly delete all >'bounces' from MAIL LISTs that I own. When my machine started up, Eudora >was launched as a 'startup' application and began to transfer my unread >MAIL from our main Unix server (around 1300 messages!). I aborted this >transfer with period and 'Quit' Eudora. I then left things for a >meeting (two hours) and on returning launched Telnet on the Mac to begn a >Unix session, then ran PINE. > The Pop program moves all of the current mail to a file called something like: .julie.pop So when you run Eudora, all of your mail is put into this file. The file isn't emptied until all messages are read. >PINE only showed 12 messages in my IN box. These must have come after you aborted Eudora. New mail goes into the regular mail box, and isn't copied until you read it with Eudora. >When I reloaded Eudora it still showed around 1300 messages to be transferred. Once again, the 12 messages were appended to your .pop mail file and removed from your regular mail box. > >I then went back to PINE and it showed ZERO messages in my IN box. ditto > >Is there some flag that Eudora sets in the mailer on Unix that PINE is >interpreting to indicate that all MAIL has been read and deleted up to that >point? --- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 16:34:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26878; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:34:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26233; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:26:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26227; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:26:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYjEX-00000ZC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson) Subject: pc-pine for the vax? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:51:18 GMT HI, I am looking for a version of pc-pine for novell that will work with a vax running the PMDF IMAP Daemon. It seems that the version 3.89 from ftp.cac.washington.edu is not compatible. When adding files to a folder it isssues an APPEND command and not a COPY command like the VAX IMAP wants. Any ideas? Neal. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Neal Stephenson: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (home machine) "he's not as smart as he thinks is, but that's not saying much" - me about me - delphi is 486/33 running linux v1.1.23 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Aug 11 21:25:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04996; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:25:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19145; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19139; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:19:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYni8-00001RC; Thu, 11 Aug 94 20:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bweaver@worf.infonet.net (David Morris) Subject: Using PICO editor Date: 12 Aug 1994 03:27:52 GMT Message-Id: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ would work to mark text. The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. -- +-+ David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +---------+ | Language cannot do everything-- chalk it on the walls | | where the dead poets/ lie in their mausoleums. - A. Rich | +----------------Disclaimer: My dog only barks when I call.----------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 06:03:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15905; Fri, 12 Aug 94 06:03:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25640; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:50:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25634; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:50:36 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA19011 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:02 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA20415; Thu, 11 Aug 94 21:59:35 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25985; Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:12:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 1994 22:10:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: ansiprint To: Pine Discussion Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone know where I can ftp the ansiprint program? I thought I had it written down somewhere, but I was wrong. thx Michael A. Naud, Dept of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 07:49:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17859; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:49:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27141; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27135; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:42:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYxZV-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pas@keokuk.unh.edu (Paul A Sand) Subject: Re: Reply to: header in Pine? Date: 12 Aug 1994 14:19:16 GMT Message-Id: <32g0d4$kq3@mozz.unh.edu> References: <31ui76$lec@u.cc.utah.edu> mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) writes: > I was wondering how I can configure Pine to send out a Reply to: field in >addition to the From: field... I'm running a Linux machine and SLIP/PPP. >I would like to send mail from my home computer with the from: field >intact, while adding a Reply to: field so that I can get a reply at >another e-mail account..... I've checked the tech-docs and tried tweeking >the .pinerc file myself... but I still havn't figured out how to do it... >if someone can help, please e-mail me... thanks! I am also in need of a simple way to do this. If readers responded to Mr. Chang via e-mail, I wonder if they could also e-mail me or (BETTER) post a response. -- -- Paul A. Sand | I'm used to working with marginal -- University of New Hampshire | operating systems, though, as I am -- pas@kepler.unh.edu | an ex-ULTRIX user. | (Marcus J. Ranum, comp.sys.dec) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 08:45:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20019; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:45:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09125; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09119; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:31 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08162; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:38:30 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15545; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:39:17 -0700 Received: from holmes.usbm.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25528; Fri, 12 Aug 94 05:39:15 -0700 Received: from miner.usbm.gov.noname by Holmes.usbm.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08023; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:39:13 EDT Received: by miner.usbm.gov.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15352; Fri, 12 Aug 94 08:39:12 EDT Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Miller Subject: PINE for Interactive To: pine@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:38:26 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hi guys, Admirable work on PINE. We use it of 15 nodes (HPs and RS/6000s) here at the Bureau. Thus my problem.... We have 6 Interactive Unix nodes. Interactive does not come with a compiler. Called them up and tried buying one, (Liant-C) but it doesn't work (they told me to send it back). Tried to find the the gcc stuff but it appears to be missing the link editor (ln). Would GREATLY appreciate if you could provide-for-me/point-me-in-the-right-directiion of either a complete public domain C compiler for Interactive version 3, or already compiled versions of PINE, PICO, TIN, and GOPHER. It's worth a lunch (Pizza Hut certificate ok?). (Sent a note to Andy Brager, but don't know if he's still around.) Thanks, Bj Miller Sys. Analyst U.S. Bureau of Mines Pittsburgh, PA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:04:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23723; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:04:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29836; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:55:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29824; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:55:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzaT-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chale@teleport.com (Chris Hale) Subject: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: 12 Aug 1994 01:53:22 -0700 Message-Id: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> You can only see this line if you look at the full header. Message-ID: I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to what influences the number. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:17:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24300; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11100; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11094; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzoU-00000bC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pc-pine for the vax? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:53:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Are you running an old version of PMDF? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 11 Aug 1994, Neal Stephenson wrote: > HI, > I am looking for a version of pc-pine for novell that will > work with a vax running the PMDF IMAP Daemon. It seems that the > version 3.89 from ftp.cac.washington.edu is not compatible. When > adding files to a folder it isssues an APPEND command and not a COPY > command like the VAX IMAP wants. > Any ideas? > Neal. > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Neal Stephenson: neal@delphi.glendon.yorku.ca (home machine) > "he's not as smart as he thinks is, but that's not saying much" - me about me > - delphi is 486/33 running linux v1.1.23 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:18:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24377; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:18:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00232; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00226; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:10:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qYzok-00000cC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ansiprint Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:58:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ansiprt is in the contrib/utils directory of the Pine source distribution... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Michael A. Naud wrote: > > Anyone know where I can ftp the ansiprint program? I thought I had it > written down somewhere, but I was wrong. > > thx > > Michael A. Naud, Dept of Academic Computing > > ---- > Michael A. Naud > (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester > (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue > manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:43:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25657; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00688; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:34:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00680; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:34:11 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA14071; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:43:56 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 12:43:56 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Chris Hale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^^ | Date and time? (August 12, 1994 at 1:55am) As for A11281, I assume that is the sendmail ID# that was assigned, but I am not sure what the algorithm is for producing that. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 10:50:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25825; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:50:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11783; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hibbert.meiko.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11777; Fri, 12 Aug 94 10:43:32 -0700 Received: by hibbert.meiko.com id AA06584 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:43:01 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 13:43:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Mike Stok Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Chris Hale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ 1994--------------+ | | | | August--------------+ | | | 12th------------------+ | | 01:55 (UTC time?)-------+ | Unique number (process ID?)--+ > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. I would guess... Mike -- The "usual disclaimers" apply. | Meiko Mike Stok | 130C Baker Ave. Ext Mike.Stok@meiko.concord.ma.us | Concord, MA 01742 Meiko tel: (508) 371 0088 x124 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 11:08:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26493; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:08:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12024; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12018; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00:32 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qZ0u2-0000izC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:00 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA19744; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 10:35:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 10:35:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. It looks like you wrote that letter at 1:55 on the 12th of the 08 month in 1994...i.e. the number is a serial number that uniquely identifies every message that travels in the NET B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:03:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28710; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:03:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02166; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:50:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02160; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:50:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1HQ-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:13:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> The primary purpose of the Message-ID is to be unique. Pine does supply a bit of information there, but opther mailers don't. Basically, the first number is the date and time, but I don't recall where the second one comes from offhand... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:22:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29428; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:22:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02571; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02565; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1W8-00000ZC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: ctrl-J in version 3.8.7 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:20:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Could you explain the symptoms? Does it not work at all or is there an error message? Does ^J work outside the headers? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 10 Aug 1994 julie@soest.hawaii.edu wrote: > We are running PINE version 3.8.7 on our Suns, both SunOS4.1.x and Solaris2.x. > I have discovered that the ctrl-J method of attaching a file doesn't work. > I'm not sure when it stopped (I'm not a PINE user myself but support several), > with the upgrade or before (or after) but it doesn't work with either OS. > Specifying the attachment in the header is fine. Any ideas? > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Julie Jirikowic School of Ocean and Earth Science and Technology > University of Hawaii julie@kela.soest.hawaii.edu > > Acid rain killed the forests. They appointed a committee to discuss it. > The ozone layer was disappearing. They said it was a minor problem to be > dealt with in time. They confused the power of words over people with the > power of words over matter--which is nonexistent. -Marge Piercy > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 12:23:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29522; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13336; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13329; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:07:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ1W7-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine config files ??? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 11:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> Pine should run without any config files beyond the .pinerc file which it creates the first time you run it. As an experiment you might try setting smtp-server in your .pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Aug 1994, Data Cal Corp. wrote: > I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read > messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is > being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system > running. I ftp'd the pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is > supposed to work with MMDF, well I missed fsome config files and I have > no idea at to what they are. The file only was th bin and not the rest. > > I need help. > > Thanks > David Allred > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 13:25:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02563; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03982; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03976; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ2di-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 12:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy.Behrens@coat.com Subject: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? Date: 12 Aug 1994 19:09:45 GMT Message-Id: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Our Documentation & Training department has asked me if it would be possible to get an advance copy of the release notes (or any other documentation) for Pine 3.90. They'd like to get a head-start on editing our manuals. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 13:42:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03466; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04472; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ux1.cso.uiuc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04466; Fri, 12 Aug 94 13:33:58 -0700 Received: from [128.174.33.5] (opus.cso.uiuc.edu) by ux1.cso.uiuc.edu with SMTP id AA02630 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:33:41 -0500 X-Sender: kerr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 15:33:56 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: (Stan Kerr) Subject: Pine and disk quotas A few days ago I posted the note below to comp.mail.pine; when I heard of the pine mailing list I decided to subscribe and try the question here as well. Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at all removing messages. Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass along the solution, we would be grateful. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Kerr University of Illinois Fax:217-244-7089 Phone:217-333-5217 Computing & Communications Services Gayly Onward 1304 W. Springfield Urbana IL 61801 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 14:11:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04621; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:11:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04998; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:03:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from faxon.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04982; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:02:24 -0700 Received: by faxon.ca (5.4R2.01/192.139.186.253) id AA16722; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:59:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 16:56:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Dion Vansevenant Subject: Pine & Procmail To: Pine Messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to use Procmail to filter my messages in Pine, but am having problems setting it up. If there is anyone who does this, could you please lend me a hand? The main problem is that I can't read the man pages because they are [nt]roff'ed and it appears DG/UX does not include anything to let you read the format. TIA Dion *----------------------------------------------* | Dion Vansevenant stu2@faxon.ca | | | | Faxon/SMS Canada Ltd. (519) 472-1006 voice | | London, ON Canada (519) 472-1072 fax | *----------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 14:33:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05297; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:33:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05388; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:25:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05382; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ3lk-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qralston+@pitt.edu (James Ralston Crawford) Subject: PINE seg faults when run in an xterm? Date: 12 Aug 1994 20:59:17 GMT Message-Id: <32gnr5$qfa@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> A while back, I saw various reports of pine catching a SIGSEGV while trying to exit if being run in an xterm. One posted solution was to not run pine in an xterm directly, but to instead run a script something like this: #! /bin/sh pine ${1+"$@"} RETSTAT=$? sleep 1 exit $RETSTAT My question is: was the definitive cause of the SIGSEGV ever found? Pine is not the only program that has (had?) the mysterious xterm SIGSEGV problem, so I'm very interested in determining whether or not the source of the problem was ever found. Please reply via email. I will summarize if necessary. -- James Ralston Crawford \ qralston+@pitt.edu \ Systems and Networks [CIS] University of Pittsburgh \ 600 Epsilon Drive \ Pittsburgh PA 15238-2887 "Computer, you and I need to have a little talk." - O'Brien, ST:DS9 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 17:52:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13082; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:52:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19871; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19865; Fri, 12 Aug 94 17:44:32 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <07403-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 19:14:49 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA15116; Fri, 12 Aug 94 18:37:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 18:37:15 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? In-Reply-To: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^ This looks like the date and time: 12-Aug-94 01:55 Don't know about the "A11281" -- Have you rummaged in the source code? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:11:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16540; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:11:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22147; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22141; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ9y7-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using PICO editor Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:32:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> Have you tried the "ESC ESC ^" work-around? If that doesn't work, send details of your configuration, exact messages, etc, to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994, David Morris wrote: > Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. > > We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text > does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ > would work to mark text. > > The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. > > -- > +-+ David Morris bweaver@worf.infonet.net Green Mountain, Iowa +---------+ > | Language cannot do everything-- chalk it on the walls | > | where the dead poets/ lie in their mausoleums. - A. Rich | > +----------------Disclaimer: My dog only barks when I call.----------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:11:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16565; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:11:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11330; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11324; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:59:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZ9yD-00000QC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:37:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ghdp$bh5@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get done? ;) Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu and we'll see if we can work something out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Aug 1994 Andy.Behrens@coat.com wrote: > Our Documentation & Training department has asked me if it would be > possible to get an advance copy of the release notes (or any other > documentation) for Pine 3.90. They'd like to get a head-start on > editing our manuals. > > Andy > > -- > Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) > > Andy Behrens > Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 21:21:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16764; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:21:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22277; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:09:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22268; Fri, 12 Aug 94 21:09:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZA7n-00000VC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 20:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and disk quotas Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 20:46:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Actually, there is a bi-directional gateway between pine-info and comp.mail.pine, so you don't need to post both places... Due to the way Pine is implemented and the structure of the Berkeley (default) mailbox format, the act of reading a message for the first time increases its size by a few bytes for status information. It would be possible for Pine/c-client to decrease the impact, but it would entail a performance penalty that we do not feel is justified. Pine does support alternate formats, e.g. Tenex, that do not have those problems, but unfortunately other tools like mail and elm do not support them. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 12 Aug 1994 stankerr@uiuc.edu wrote: > A few days ago I posted the note below to comp.mail.pine; when I heard of > the pine mailing list I decided to subscribe and try the question here as > well. > > > Many of our people now use pine, but are constrained by quotas on system > mailbox space. In one case I saw this week, a person with a lot of mail > was over quota and tried to use pine to delete a bunch of messages, so as > to get under quota. She did everything correctly to delete the messages, > and pine politely asked for confirmation when she exited. However, the > messages were not deleted. I tried it myself and it did the same thing. > Finally I resorted to good old Berkeley 'mail', which had no trouble at > all removing messages. > > Our systems folks are overworked and not excited about poring over pine's > code to see how this problem might be addressed, so they're basically > ignoring it (as far as I can tell). If someone has solved it, and can pass > along the solution, we would be grateful. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stan Kerr University of Illinois > Fax:217-244-7089 Phone:217-333-5217 Computing & Communications Services > Gayly Onward 1304 W. Springfield Urbana IL 61801 > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Aug 12 23:36:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18945; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:36:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13046; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:27:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13040; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:27:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZCAl-00000IC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 23:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ribarbe@garlic.com (Richard Barber) Subject: Re: Using PICO editor Date: 12 Aug 1994 22:36:31 -0700 Message-Id: <32hm4v$dim@garlic.com> References: <32eq7o$p4p@worf.infonet.net> David Morris (bweaver@worf.infonet.net) wrote: : Since PICO is the editor part of pine, I thought I would ask here. : We have PICO 2.3 on OS/F1 and find the ^^ key combination to mark text : does not work. I see the help message from time to time saying Ctrl-^ : would work to mark text. : The only thing I get is a message that this is an unknown key. Did you try ^6 -- --- Geek v2.1: GAT d--- H->+ s+ g+6 au0 !a w+++(---) v(---)>* C++++ US+++(++++) !P 3+ L+ E---- N++ K+>+++++ W--- M+$ V- po--- Y++(+) t j--IRC G++ b+++ B- e* u---* h!>++@ f* r++ n+ y-**$ Finger for thee PGP publik kee. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 00:34:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19972; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24641; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:27:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24635; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:27:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZDAN-00000LC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 00:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: Re: Mailing Lists On Pine? Message-Id: References: <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 06:46:24 GMT In article <1994Aug8.214344.1@jaguar.uofs.edu>, wrote: > Can Pine be used for a mailing list? If so how? > =========================================================================== In Pine's Address Book, the command "S" will enable you to create a mailing ("distribution") list. Give the list a long name, e.g., Alcohol Beverage Control; then a short name, e.g., abc. The command "Z" enables you to add an address to the list. When sending a message to the group, enter in the header; "Bcc:" will appear. After "Bcc:" simply enter "abc". Your entire mailing list will appear. When the message is sent, no recipient will know who else has received it. -- Bill Smithers ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 02:51:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22951; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:51:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15419; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:45:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15410; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:44:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZFIe-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 02:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajs@dircon.co.uk (Ali Jaber Al-Sabah) Subject: PC-Pine need help in installing Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 05:21:25 +1000 Message-Id: Need help in installing PC-Pine DOS version. I have completed installation as directed in the install.txt file. But when I start pine from the dos prompt I get the following message " PC/TCP resident module is not loaded, aborting program ... " My slip conectivity is working fine. Can anybody help? thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 10:52:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05346; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:52:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21779; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:38:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21773; Sat, 13 Aug 94 10:38:14 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA10382; Sat, 13 Aug 94 13:36:47 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA22912; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:36:07 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA00522; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:36:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 12:36:42 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get > done? ;) > > Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you > have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Does this mean the release of 3.90 is within a week or so instead of a few weeks? :-) Just curious? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 12:01:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08063; Sat, 13 Aug 94 12:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23040; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23034; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:49:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZNpP-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 11:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez017400@dale.ucdavis.edu (Hemang Patel) Subject: Return receipt requested? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 18:15:21 GMT A professor recently posed an interesting question to me. He receives e-mail regularly from the National Academy of Sciences and when he finishes reading the message and deletes it, he is asked to send a return receipt. This process happens automatically. Pine also know the return address of the person who is supposed to recieve the return receipt. all he has to do is answer yes. Does anyone know how this happens? Also, how would one set up such a system so he can do the same for e-mail he sends. TIA. -- _______________________________________ hcpatel@dale.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 14:36:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14211; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:36:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06946; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jade.saintmarys.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06940; Sat, 13 Aug 94 14:29:31 -0700 Received: by jade.saintmarys.edu (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA249653561; Sat, 13 Aug 1994 16:32:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 16:32:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Mandell Subject: Maximum number of entries in Address List To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? -- ===================================== Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 15:47:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17557; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:47:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08329; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:40:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08323; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:40:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZRRZ-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dgatehou@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (David E. Gatehouse) Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: 13 Aug 1994 22:14:03 GMT Message-Id: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dave Gatehouse e-mail: dgatehou@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca | | Henry Gordon Academy voice: (709) 938 - 7268 | | Cartwright, Labrador fax: (709) 938 - 7530 | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 18:56:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22235; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29905; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29899; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:49:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZUKj-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 18:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jer@crash.cts.com (Jerry Burger) Subject: Win Pine ?? Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 18:28:59 GMT Message-Id: Is there a Windows version of the Pine mail program ? Thanks jer@crash.cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 20:15:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23318; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:15:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11722; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11716; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:26 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19276; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:08:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 20:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jerry Burger Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Win Pine ?? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is there a Windows version of the Pine mail program ? Jerry, The answer is "yes and no"... In the upcoming(*) Pine 3.90 release, we intend to include an "alpha" version of "PC-Pine for Winsock". Note that this is not a full Windows GUI application. Rather, it has the same character-based User Interface as Unix and DOS Pine. Unlike PC-Pine for DOS: o You can resize the window. o There is *limited* Windows cut/paste (this will be improved soon). o There is a Windows printer interface o It uses the Winsock network interface Like PC-Pine for DOS: o Mouse can select commands, messages, and Composer cursor position o Some Unix Pine functions are not available: -integral spelling checker -alt editor -pipe command o Performance optimization hasn't been done yet (esp. for index sort) (*) now shooting for approx 94.08.22 -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 20:47:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23750; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12067; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:41:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12061; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:41:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZW4X-00000VC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 20:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billy@svpal.org (Bill Yeakel) Subject: Documentation for PINE available? Date: 13 Aug 1994 19:01:43 -0700 Message-Id: <32jtu7$hgu@svpal.svpal.org> I am a newcomer to the volunteer tech support for a public access provider and we seem to have no written or online documentation available on PINE except for screen capture or scrolling help files to a comm program buffer. Is there any single, complete file available? Thanks for any leads. Bill billy@svpal.org bill.yeakel@dataport.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 22:56:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25672; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:56:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02580; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02574; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21772; Sat, 13 Aug 94 22:49:27 -0700 Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 22:49:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kenny Wickstrom Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Advance documentation for Pine 3.90? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think we are on schedule for an August 22 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Kenny Wickstrom wrote: > On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Didn't you ever hear that the documentation is the last thing to get > > done? ;) > > > > Seriously, we are working furiously to finish the docs for 3.90, but if you > > have a deadline that can't wait a week for the release, drop us a note at > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Does this mean the release of 3.90 is within a week or so instead of a > few weeks? :-) > > Just curious? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |/ | | > |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) > ======== > // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. > // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 > // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 > // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) > Telecommunications Division // > _// > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 23:51:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26499; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:51:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13971; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13965; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZYwZ-00000bC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 23:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: There is no defined limit. Pine 3.89 and before store the entire list in memory, so there will be a practical limit though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Dan Mandell wrote: > Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > > -- > ===================================== > Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College > Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu > > "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Aug 13 23:51:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26516; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:51:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03173; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03167; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:44:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZYwV-00000aC; Sat, 13 Aug 94 23:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC-Pine need help in installing Date: Sat, 13 Aug 1994 23:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What version of PC/TCP are you using? Or are you using a different TCP/IP stack? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 13 Aug 1994, Ali Jaber Al-Sabah wrote: > Need help in installing PC-Pine DOS version. > I have completed installation as directed in the install.txt file. But when I > start pine from the dos prompt I get the following message > " PC/TCP resident module is not loaded, aborting program ... " > My slip conectivity is working fine. > Can anybody help? > thanks > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 16:03:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13724; Sun, 14 Aug 94 16:03:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24761; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:52:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24755; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:52:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZo64-00000IC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aas2398@u.cc.utah.edu (A Shmomed) Subject: How Can I pull my old "sent mail file" any one plese Date: 14 Aug 1994 16:12:04 -0600 Message-Id: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> I tried to pull out my old sent files, and I could not, is there a way to do it, please let me know! thank you, Abdouladif aas2398@cc.utah.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 21:10:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18555; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:10:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28228; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:00:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28222; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:00:51 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id XAA00846; Sun, 14 Aug 1994 23:11:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 23:11:37 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Pine 3.90 and Linux To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for somebody to port it? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 21:35:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19051; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:35:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28613; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:27:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28607; Sun, 14 Aug 94 21:27:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZrv4-00000IC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 19:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffery sumler) Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Message-Id: References: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 02:17:56 GMT In article <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, David E. Gatehouse wrote: >Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: >: Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > >As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. This comment from adrbklib.h (pine 3.89) indicates that each entry in the addressbook can contain up to 1000 addresses. I tested this while writing a little program that converted VMS distribution lists to pine addressbook entries and I think I got 1010 or so before pine dumped core. from adrbklib.h: /* There are no restrictions on the length on any of the fields. This current code restricts the number of addresses in a list to 1000. */ jeff sumler jsumler@indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 22:39:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20313; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29393; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29387; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZuKI-00000cC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and Linux Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 22:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We don't use Linux extensively, but I have compiled and briefly tested our working sources of about the middle of last week on Linux 1.1.42... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to > Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with > Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for > somebody to port it? > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the > \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ > P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ > j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Aug 14 22:39:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20344; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18896; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18890; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:28:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZuKH-00000bC; Sun, 14 Aug 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Maximum number of entries in Address List Date: Sun, 14 Aug 1994 22:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: We have gone to considerable effort to upgrade addressbook support in Pine 3.90 to handle huge addressbooks with reasonable performance. One of our test addressbooks has over 10,000 entries. Pine 3.89 does crash on a sendmail bug with large numbers of recipients, but that is also solved in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, jeffery sumler wrote: > In article <32jgjb$1gm@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, > David E. Gatehouse wrote: > >Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: > >: Does anyone know what the max. number of addresses for an address book list? > > > >As far as I can gather the max is 40! Try it and see. > > This comment from adrbklib.h (pine 3.89) indicates that each entry in > the addressbook can contain up to 1000 addresses. I tested this while > writing a little program that converted VMS distribution lists to pine > addressbook entries and I think I got 1010 or so before pine dumped > core. > > from adrbklib.h: > /* There are no restrictions on the length on any of the fields. This current > code restricts the number of addresses in a list to 1000. > */ > > jeff sumler > jsumler@indiana.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 01:23:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23517; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:23:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20948; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:14:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20942; Mon, 15 Aug 94 01:14:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZwwN-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 00:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anto@inn.bppt.go.id (Anto Daryanto) Subject: Header mode won't work Date: 15 Aug 1994 02:58:33 -0500 Message-Id: Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. In Pine 3.85 it worked. Thanks in advance, A. Daryanto --- lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi telpon +62-21-3169809 Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika BPP Teknologi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 02:50:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25199; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:50:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02725; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02719; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:42:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZy8W-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 02:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) Subject: "Tag" or "Mark" msgs to save in PINE? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:07:56 GMT In PINE (version 3.89) can I save multiple messages to a filename? When in INDEX, can I "tag" or "mark" all the files I want saved? There must be a way, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dan LeGate dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu Prodigy ID: FCSJ69A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 03:57:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26586; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22675; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:49:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22669; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:49:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZzL9-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Can I turn *off* news in pine? Message-Id: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:54:13 GMT The system wide pine.conf file for the Pine 3.89 installation in our department has the "news-collections" variable set so that users can read news from an NNTP server in another department using Pine. However I prefer to read new using a threaded news reader rather than Pine. Unfortunately I can't stop pine from showing me the news collection. This is particularly annoying because the NNTP server can be a bit flakey at times an I like to run Pine with the "expanded-view-of-folders" option turned on. The news can slow down the opening of the "FOLDER LIST" screen considerably. Can anyone suggest something for me to put in my pinerc file to turn off news access? I tried news-collections="" which *almost* does what I want, but causes Pine to generate an error message everytime it starts up :- Bad context, No '[' in context : "" Anybody got a better solution? I can modify the pine.conf file if need be (I'm the sysadmin :-)) but I don't want to mess up news access for Pine users who want to continue using Pine for news. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 04:08:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27303; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:08:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03565; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:00:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03559; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:00:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qZzUA-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 03:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk (Gerald Nwana) Subject: PC-Pine 3.89 for PC-NFS and DOS 6 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:19:21 GMT Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a problem running PC-Pine for PC-NFS on DOS 6 machines? It runs fine on DOS 5 machines but when I try to run it on a DOS 6 machine it is unable to find the host machine containing my incoming mailbox. The PINERC file is the same for both versions of DOS. Gerald ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Gerald Nwana, User Services, Computer Centre, Brunel University, | | Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK tel: +44 895 274000 x2568 | | | | E-mail: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 04:41:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27837; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:41:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23435; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:34:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23429; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:34:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa0HY-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 04:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hph@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Hans Peter Bitsch Hansen) Subject: HOME pc pine Date: 15 Aug 1994 11:23:45 GMT Message-Id: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Hellow pine users, We are using pine 3.89 at work, and are happy with it. We are running it on the tcpip-net internal, on a unix server, and with pc-pine on the local PC's. What I would like to ask you, is whether some of you have experience with pine on your HOME computer, and how to integrate it with the unix-server at work, via a modem, but without needing to do a login at the server. I am using uupc, and have been thinking of something like: 1) transfer /usr/spool/mail/mymail over modem to my HOME PC 2) do the mailjob (read, reply, compose) with pine 3) transfer the result back to the server via modem I would like some comments on the above items, to do the setup correct. In advance thanks, and best regards, Hans Peter ---------------------------------------------------------------- * Hans Peter Hansen | VKI-Water Quality Institute * * E-mail: hph@aar-vki.dk | Science Park Aarhus * * Phone: +45 86 20 20 00 /2124 | 10, Gustav Wiedsvej * * Fax: +45 86 19 75 11 | DK 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark * ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 06:11:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29560; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:11:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05312; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05306; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:50 -0700 Received: from atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09357; Mon, 15 Aug 94 06:05:49 -0700 Received: from aphrodite.chemistry.uakron.edu by atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06370; Mon, 15 Aug 94 09:06:11 EDT Received: by aphrodite.chemistry.uakron.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15976; Mon, 15 Aug 94 09:07:57 EDT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 09:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Linda Lancki Subject: Pine/PC-NFS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) but have not been successful. I get the following error message: Opening INBOX Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! Linda Lancki ************************************************************************* * Linda Lancki | office: KNCL, Room 113 * * System Administrator | phone: (216) 972-5898 * * University of Akron | fax: (216) 972-7370 * * Department of Chemistry | e-mail: * * Knight Chemical Lab | linda@atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu * * Akron, Ohio 44325-3601 | * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:20:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00918; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:20:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06197; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:14:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06191; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:14:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa2lu-00000LC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: Pine and Solaris 2.2... help! Message-Id: <1994Aug15.124238.9670@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 12:42:38 GMT Hello there... I am presently trying to compile Pine (3.89 or 3.87, the version doesn't really matter to me) on a system with Solaris 2.2. as the OS. I have found pre-compiled binaries of both Pico and Pine for the system, and they work wonderfully, but Pine defaults to having 4 debug reports, whereas I want to disable the debug option altogether (by editing pine/osdep/os-sv4.h) and setting the number of reports to 0. All I want to do is change this one little thing, but when I try to compile with 'build sol' it fails every-time. It could be a C-compiler problem, I have gcc here, and the version of cc (/usr/ucb/cc) doesn't fit the bill at all it seems... I have tried compiling for the Solaris platform on another system with both cc and gcc, and still failed... Everything I try always elicits the results... '.../c-client/osdep.h:49: sys/utime.h: No such file or directory... But if it can seemingly find the other include files (such as sys/type.h)... why doesn't it find that one??? Am I doing something patently wrong? Can anyone help? Has anyone successfully compiled Pine under Solaris? Any help will be most gratefully received, although preferably by Email. Thanks! Peter Bates, University of Bradford. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:48:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01437; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06593; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06587; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa37G-00000dC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae6244@leibniz.math.usma.edu (MARKERT ERICH L. MR.) Subject: ANSIPRINT Source Message-Id: <438@trotter.UUCP> Date: 15 Aug 94 12:31:30 GMT Here's the source: /* These appear to be the conventional ANSI escape sequences for turning on and off an attached printer. */ static char printer_on[] = "\033[5i"; static char printer_off[] = "\033[4i"; static int dump_file (fd, name) int fd; char *name; { char buffer[8192]; char out[8192]; int n, m; for (m = 0;; m += n) { n = read (fd, buffer, sizeof (buffer)); if (n < 0) { perror (name); return n; } else if (n == 0) { return m; } else { int i, o; for (i = o = 0; i < n; ++i) { if (o > sizeof (out) - 2) { write (1, out, o); o = 0; } if ((out[o++] = buffer[i]) == '\n') out[o++] = '\r'; } if (o > 0) write (1, out, o); } } } main (argc, argv) int argc; char **argv; { int fd; /* Send printer-on escape sequence. */ write (1, printer_on, strlen (printer_on)); /* If there are no arguments, read from standard input. */ if (argc < 2) { dump_file (0, "stdin"); } else { for (--argc, ++argv; argc; --argc, ++argv) { fd = open (*argv, 0); if (fd < 0) { perror (*argv); exit (1); } if (dump_file (fd, *argv) < 0) exit (1); } } /* Write a form feed, then the printer-off escape sequence. */ /* The following line was commented out by me, ERICH MARKERT The reason for this is that the extra form feed causes a blank page to be printed on laser printers If you desire the form feed for your dotmatrix printer simply uncomment this line and recompile */ /* write (1, "\f", 1); */ write (1, printer_off, strlen (printer_off)); exit (0); } -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Mr. Erich L. Markert ae6244@euler.math.usma.edu Systems Administrator TEL (914) 938-5624 Department of Mathematical Sciences FAX (914) 938-2409 United States Military Academy West Point, NY 10996 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 07:50:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01482; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:50:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25638; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25626; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:40:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa37E-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae6244@leibniz.math.usma.edu (MARKERT ERICH L. MR.) Subject: cancel <436@trotter.UUCP> Message-Id: <437@trotter.UUCP> Date: 15 Aug 94 12:30:56 GMT References: <329ibh$ls4@worf.infonet.net> <32cjnq$svi@ousrvr.oulu.fi> <436@trotter.UUCP> Control: cancel <436@trotter.UUCP> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 08:17:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02324; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:17:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26138; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:10:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26132; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:10:57 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA15196; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:09:25 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA23540; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:08:46 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA01479; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:09:18 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:09:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 and Linux To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 14 Aug 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > If I understand correctly, some 3rd-party person ported Pine 3.89 to > Linux when it was release. I am curious as to if 3.90 will work with > Linux right out of the box or if use Linux people will have to wait for > somebody to port it? > I use pine 3.89 on a linux machine at home with no special port. I have used the same source and re-built for SunOS 4.1.3, HP-UX 8.0 and linux kernel 99.14 without any problems. The linux distribution I use is debian and it came with elm. Hope this helps. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 08:24:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02591; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:24:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26250; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:16:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26244; Mon, 15 Aug 94 08:15:58 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA15236; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:14:15 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA23543; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:13:35 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA01490; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:14:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:14:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Header mode won't work To: Anto Daryanto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 15 Aug 1994, Anto Daryanto wrote: > Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems > doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. > In Pine 3.85 it worked. > > Thanks in advance, > I am using Pine 3.89 on SunOS 4.1.3 and HP-UX 8.0 and have no problems with headers. Do you have 'old-growth' or 'use-full-header' included in feature-list in your .pinerc file? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 10:44:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08880; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:44:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29302; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:39:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29296; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:39:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa5wn-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: "Tag" or "Mark" msgs to save in PINE? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:08:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is not available in Pine 3.89, but will be in Pine 3.90 which is scheduled for release about next Monday. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Dan LeGate wrote: > In PINE (version 3.89) can I save multiple messages to a filename? When in > INDEX, can I "tag" or "mark" all the files I want saved? There must be a > way, but I can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Dan LeGate > dlegate@s1.csuhayward.edu > Prodigy ID: FCSJ69A > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Aug 15 16:51:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23805; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:51:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06353; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rainbow.uta.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06345; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:46:39 -0700 Received: by rainbow.uta.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05940; Mon, 15 Aug 94 18:49:32 CDT Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 18:49:31 -0500 (CDT) From: Abdelsalam Helal Subject: xpine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: helal@cse Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there an xpine out there yet? Regards, Sumi Helal-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12834; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17769; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17763; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6FH-00000ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: HOME pc pine Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32nj81$478@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Unfortunately, PC-Pine does not currently run in that setup. The current PC-Pine model is to connect to the server via a SLIP or PPP connection.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Aug 1994, Hans Peter Bitsch Hansen wrote: > > Hellow pine users, > > We are using pine 3.89 at work, and are happy with it. > We are running it on the tcpip-net internal, on a unix server, > and with pc-pine on the local PC's. > > What I would like to ask you, is whether some of you have experience > with pine on your HOME computer, and how to integrate it with the > unix-server at work, via a modem, but without needing to do a login > at the server. > > I am using uupc, and have been thinking of something like: > 1) transfer /usr/spool/mail/mymail over modem to my HOME PC > 2) do the mailjob (read, reply, compose) with pine > 3) transfer the result back to the server via modem > > I would like some comments on the above items, to do the setup > correct. > > In advance thanks, and best regards, Hans Peter > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > * Hans Peter Hansen | VKI-Water Quality Institute * > * E-mail: hph@aar-vki.dk | Science Park Aarhus * > * Phone: +45 86 20 20 00 /2124 | 10, Gustav Wiedsvej * > * Fax: +45 86 19 75 11 | DK 8000 Aarhus C, Denmark * > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12857; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17755; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17749; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6BO-00000VC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PC-Pine 3.89 for PC-NFS and DOS 6 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:21:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Do both machines have the same PC-NFS version and configuration? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Gerald Nwana wrote: > Hi all, > > Does anyone know if there is a problem running PC-Pine for PC-NFS on DOS 6 > machines? It runs fine on DOS 5 machines but when I try to run it on a > DOS 6 machine it is unable to find the host machine containing my incoming > mailbox. The PINERC file is the same for both versions of DOS. > > > Gerald > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > | Gerald Nwana, User Services, Computer Centre, Brunel University, | > | Uxbridge, UB8 3PH, UK tel: +44 895 274000 x2568 | > | | > | E-mail: Gerald.Nwana@brunel.ac.uk | > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:19:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12865; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:19:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17793; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17787; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vm-00000fC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine config files ??? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:18:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <328srv$p3l@herald.indirect.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Pine should run without any config files beyond the .pinerc file which it : creates the first time you run it. As an experiment you might try setting : smtp-server in your .pinerc file. : > I have just installed pine and I have found out that it will read : > messages but not deliver them. What it is doing is that a message is : > being sent to no-mans land. What files are needed to get the system Well, does /bin/mail work as a mail submission agent? It looks to me (like I said in that last message) like you've got some funky permissions problems within the MMDF subsystem, or worse. I finally looked up the permission command you should run, so try typing: # /etc/fixperm -nd MAIL /etc/perms/* which will report, but not repair, all the errors of the MAIL subsystem as defined by the files in the /etc/perms directory. 'man fixperm' for more information. Let me know. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12917; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29385; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29377; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Nr-00000aC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How Can I pull my old "sent mail file" any one plese Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32m4rk$qp2@u.cc.utah.edu> Please be more specific about what folders you are trying to access, what you tried to access them, what error messages you recieved, etc..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Aug 1994, A Shmomed wrote: > > > I tried to pull out my old sent files, and I could not, is there a > way to do it, please let me know! > thank you, > > Abdouladif > aas2398@cc.utah.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12971; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17777; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17771; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vh-00000MC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine on SCO used wrong date Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:07:44 GMT Message-Id: References: <32602s$776@cyberspace.com> Steve Miller (smiller@cyberspace.net) wrote: : When I send mail using pine on SCO Rel 3.2 Ver 4.2 it sends the wrong date. : The date is always February 23, 1970. That's my port, and I'm running 3.2v4.2 here. I can't say what's up with the date. The system date is OK, right? : On another system running SCO Unix Rel 3.2 Ver 2.0 pine aborts when trying : to start it up. : Anyone experienced these problems before? Someone once mentioned that to me. Do you remember what the error was? In a sense, though, this isn't an ODT port, so some problem are possible if I inadvertantly used any non-ODT functions. Or, if you don't mean ODT, and this is really a 2.0 version, ye gods, that's old. I had this built with the latest TCP/IP and development system. Who knows what might have changed since then. : I have had pine running on a different system with SCO ODT 3.0 : (same as SCO Unix 3.2 Ver 4.2) for months and it works just fine. : The ones with the date problem are all fresh installs on new : machines. Well, I haven't seen anything here. Try writing some small programs to check the system date and time from C, and see what you get. It's always possible that Pine is just reflecting a symptom of a larger problem. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12988; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29361; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29355; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:12:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa69v-00000LC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Can I turn *off* news in pine? Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:19:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Aug15.095413.3138@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Looks like you found a bug... Thanks for the report! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Neil Hoggarth wrote: > The system wide pine.conf file for the Pine 3.89 installation in our > department has the "news-collections" variable set so that users can > read news from an NNTP server in another department using Pine. However > I prefer to read new using a threaded news reader rather than Pine. > Unfortunately I can't stop pine from showing me the news collection. > This is particularly annoying because the NNTP server can be a bit > flakey at times an I like to run Pine with the "expanded-view-of-folders" > option turned on. The news can slow down the opening of the "FOLDER > LIST" screen considerably. > > Can anyone suggest something for me to put in my pinerc file to turn off > news access? I tried > > news-collections="" > > which *almost* does what I want, but causes Pine to generate an error > message everytime it starts up :- > > Bad context, No '[' in context : "" > > Anybody got a better solution? I can modify the pine.conf file if need > be (I'm the sysadmin :-)) but I don't want to mess up news access for > Pine users who want to continue using Pine for news. > > Regards, > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology > Oxford University, UK > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13032; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29395; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29389; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6Vl-00000cC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 setup for SCO Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 17:12:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <328cc9$4b@herald.indirect.com> Data Cal Corp. (datacal@indirect.com) wrote: : I have FTPd the pine 3.89 binary for SCO UNIX from : soils.agron.iastate.edu and would like to know if this program works with : MMDF. I have installed the program and I get sporatic mail delivery on : the system. What I am doing is using UUCP to poll mail from Netcom and : then MMDF to deliver it, then for now use pine to read the mail. I plan : to get SMTP gateway running and have MMDF deliver mail there for the : people using PCs and pine for those who use terminals. But this problem : is persistant. Well, at least Pine isn't the problem. Pine doesn't touch your underlying mail system at all in its operation. What you should probably do, to ease your mind a bit, is only use /bin/mail until you've either fixed the delivery problem, or satisfied youself that Pine isn't causing the problems. : I sent a message to a friend in the office as a test message. he never : got it. He in return sent one back to me and the same. But when I send : messages to root (Superuser) it gets there. : The address lines are as follows. : Any ideas????????????? Check your permissions on all the MMDF stuff. I don't, of course, remember the correct command to issue, but you'll want to run (I think it's called) checkperms on the MMDF package to see if there's a part that should be setuid that isn't, or vice versa. If root can do something that the rest of the world can't, it's more than likely a permissions problem. But this is, at its heart, a MMDF problem. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:20:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13077; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:20:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29375; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29369; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa6e7-00000gC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 11:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine/PC-NFS Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I presume that other PC-NFS applications (e.g. telnet) can access atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu without problem? Checking our nameserver, it appears that atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is a dual-homed host (has two ethernet addresses). The reason I mention this is that we have recently recieved a couple other similar reports that we have been unable to explain with PC-Pine trying to access dual-homed hosts. A second problem I noticed is that atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu does not appear to have an IMAP server running. If you are still unable to get PC-Pine running, please send details to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. Thanks! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 15 Aug 1994, Linda Lancki wrote: > Hello, > > I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) > but have not been successful. I get the following error message: > > > Opening INBOX > > Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu > > > where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 > running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. > > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!! > > Linda Lancki > > ************************************************************************* > * Linda Lancki | office: KNCL, Room 113 * > * System Administrator | phone: (216) 972-5898 * > * University of Akron | fax: (216) 972-7370 * > * Department of Chemistry | e-mail: * > * Knight Chemical Lab | linda@atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu * > * Akron, Ohio 44325-3601 | * > ************************************************************************* > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:21:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13085; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:21:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29403; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29397; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:13:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qa9Zm-00000iC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 14:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: willetll@imd1.cbs.state.or.us (Linda Willett) Subject: PC pine and Windows Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 13:59:58 Message-Id: Hi I realize pc-pine does not support windows yet, but can't I create a pif file to run pine.exe, so that I can run pc-pine in full screen while still in the windows environment??? I am trying to do this, but when I click on the icon, it starts pc-pine and then goes back to the program window - is there a setting I am missing????? By the way, pc-pine works fine from DOS. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Linda Willett llw@imd1.cbs.state.or.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:27:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13376; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:27:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29529; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29523; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaBvG-00001ZC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrews@biology.ucla.edu (Peter Andrews) Subject: Pine and Mac w/PPP access Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 16:38:03 -0800 Message-Id: I'm new to this group and apologize if this is an old topic. I did not see a FAQ. I use PINE on my unix machine. I have recently gotten dial-up PP access and am using Eudora on my mac at home. Is there a Mac. version of pine or some program that works well with it? Eudora is working fine but now I have half my mail in my pine folders and half in Eudora. I currently have Eudora leave the mail on the server so that way I can at least have all my received mail in one place. Any mail I write from Eudora never goes to pine, though. I would like to avoid sending myself copies of all mail, if possible. Thanks in advance, Peter Andrews From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13407; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29537; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29531; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaD6v-00001bC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fehnwana@liverpool.ac.uk (Gerald Nwana) Subject: Re: Header mode won't work Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 11:39:38 GMT Anto Daryanto (anto@inn.bppt.go.id) wrote: : Hi, I am using Pine 3.89 in SunOS and HP-UX. The header (long) mode seems : doesn't work. If I type either h or H I only heard beep. : In Pine 3.85 it worked. : Thanks in advance, : A. Daryanto : --- : lantai 21 Gedung baru BPP Teknologi : telpon +62-21-3169809 : Direktorat Teknologi Elektronika dan Informatika : BPP Teknologi I think you have to enable this feature in your pinerc file. Try adding it to your feature-list as follows: feature-list=enable-full-header-cmd, list of other features Gerald From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13409; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17973; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17967; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaBrb-00001YC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 16:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgm@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Richard McMahon) Subject: second sub directory for mail Date: 15 Aug 1994 23:37:20 GMT Message-Id: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I am running Pine 3.90 under SuOS 4 I have placed old sent-mail and old mail in a subdirectory on another disk which has a link to my mail subdirectory. When I use Goto folders and browse down to the relevant directory I cannot enter it. Does Pine support alternative folder sub-directories? How do I access them? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:28:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13455; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:28:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17981; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17975; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:23:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaCce-00001aC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duffy@myhost.subdomain.domain (Dennis Duffner) Subject: trouble with FROM line Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 00:23:36 GMT It seems that PINE wants to put 'duffy@hostname.subdomain.domain' in my FROM line and I'm at a loss to figure out how to remedy that. Any ideas welcome! Dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:35:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13631; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:35:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18107; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18101; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaMjP-00002pC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Cornelius Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 12:23:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 12 Aug 1994, Mike Stok wrote: > On 12 Aug 1994, Chris Hale wrote: > > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > > > Message-ID: > ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ > 1994--------------+ | | | | > August--------------+ | | | > 12th------------------+ | | > 01:55 (UTC time?)-------+ | > Unique number (process ID?)--+ One of our more observant users noticed that the time (0155 in the above example) was not in fact the hours and minutes value from the time as he expected. It turns out that it is the hours and seconds of the time. We reported this "bug" as a very low priority curiosity to the Pine team, and I understand that it will be "fixed" in 3.90. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 IT Service, Science Site, IT Service Office: (0191 or +44 191) 374 2892 University of Durham, Fax: (0191 or +44 191) 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:35:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13679; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:35:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29650; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29644; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaP4y-00002rC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: altaylor@iohk.com (Alan Taylor) Subject: Mail to Fidonet Date: 16 Aug 1994 14:00:16 GMT Message-Id: <32qgpg$gf3@news.hk.net> Hi, I live in Hong Kong and regularly send mail to a friend in Australia who is on Fidonet. The trouble is, it takes a week. I use the standard addressing method ... joe.bloggs@p?.f???.n???.z?.fidonet.org Does anyone know of another way which might be faster ? I've heard it suggested to use UUCP, but I've no idea how to do this, as I thought it was for an internet target. Any ideas welcome, and I'll report results, if anyone wants to know. Regards, Alan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:36:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13836; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:36:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18099; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18093; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaLN8-00002iC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 03:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: What is the number on the message-id line? Message-Id: <1994Aug16.090652.5493@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 09:06:52 GMT In article <32fda2$b57@kelly.teleport.com>, Chris Hale wrote: > You can only see this line if you look at the full header. > > Message-ID: > > I can guess at the first part (pine ver 3.89) and the last part (I'm > mailing from kelly.teleport.com) But what is the big long number in between? > > It changes each time I mail something. But there doesn't seem to be a > rhyme or reason to what influences the number. The Message-ID header is required by the Internet mail standards to provide a unique identifier for each mail message. This ID can then be quoted as a reference when generating replies etc. The Netnews system uses something similar to allow threaded readers to associate follow-ups with the articles which prompted them. The number in the middle of the string seems to be made up from the current date and time and, I would guess, the process ID of the Pine which generated the message. 94 - year 08 - month 12 - day 0155 - perhaps it was mailed at 01:55 GMT? 11281 - I would think this is a process ID. However the contents arn't really important. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:36:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13837; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:36:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29642; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29636; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:30:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaLsN-00002mC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 03:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: Pine/PC-NFS Message-Id: <1994Aug16.102836.6961@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 10:28:36 GMT In article , Linda Lancki wrote: > >I have been trying to get pc-pine to work with PC-NFS (various versions) >but have not been successful. I get the following error message: > > > Opening INBOX > > Host not found: atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu > > >where, atlas.chemistry.uakron.edu is our mailhost. The PC is a 286 >running PC-NFS version 3.5 using an EtherLink 3c503 ethernet card. Can the PC resolve the name to an IP address? Can you get IP packets back and forth between the mailhost and the PC? Try ping and telnet from the DOS command line - this should give you some clues as to where the problem lies. PC-NFS uses NIS for name resolution. Have you tried pointing Pine at "atlas" or "atlas.chemistry" rather than the full domain name? Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 07:53:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14337; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:53:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18445; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:49:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18438; Tue, 16 Aug 94 07:49:08 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA23017; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:47:42 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA24029; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:47:03 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA02956; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:47:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 09:47:32 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: xpine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: hela@cse.uta.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes, there is a xpine available. It is called spruce. Below is a message from the author of spruce. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- |/ | | |\enny |/\|ickstrom (wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com) ======== // ___ \\___ ==\\ || \\__ ___ 1405 Lake Cook Rd. // // \\ ||---\ _|| _|| \\ // ||--\\ // \\ Deerfield, IL 60015 // ===== || // || // || \\// || || ===== (708)940-9000 // \\___ || \\_/\_ \\_/\_ // || || \\___ (708)940-0344(FAX) Telecommunications Division // _// ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 5 Aug 1994 15:35:09 GMT From: Leiman Ian To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Looking for Spruce... In article <31qciv$c6k@thot.u-strasbg.fr>, calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) writes: |> Where can a beta of Spruce be found ? I am the author of Spruce. Unfortunately I have been so busy with my work since May that I haven't had any time to finish Spruce up to distribution quality yet. The summer has also been so nice that I've spent all my spare time outdoors. When the autumn rains begin, that's when it's good time to start writing code again. Hope that doesn't come too soon :-) I have also been waiting for PINE 3.90 release, and hoping to upgrade Spruce to same level at once. Those who are interesed and have a decent WWW client can take a look at some documentation I started in May at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html Especially interesting should be the interface description with screen captures at: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/interface.html One can also download an uuencoded demo executable for HP9000/7xx. The WWW server is located in Finland (see /~leiman/Finland.html) so the network connection may s l o w from somewhere like Seattle, or even down sometimes. The source code of Spruce is at an ugly messy state and I ought to clean the source directory up before I dare to show that stuff publicly. This is an idea I have been thing for some time: ================================================ As soon as I find time, I'll start a major cleanup at Spruce source directory and put it all publicly available through HTML hypertext links. The HTML would also document the code a bit, making it reasonably easy to see the structure of the code. How does this sound? I also have to figure out how to configure my httpd (WWW server) to act as an ftp proxy, so that I could distribute source code and compiled binaries from my own host. The biggest problem here is to assure system security against hacker penetration. I have been contacted by many people who have expressed a keen interest in porting the Spruce code for various platforms. Perhaps this way also compiled binaries can be provided. Currently I have very little time to read news, so I may not read this newsgroup too often. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com mobile (GSM) 940-5020217 WWW: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 09:26:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18690; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20623; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:20:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20617; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:20:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaR8Z-00000fC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 09:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbcsc025@huey.csun.edu (louie soriano) Subject: Posting... Date: 16 Aug 1994 16:08:27 GMT Message-Id: <32qo9r$1r8@nic-nac.CSU.net> Why is it that in some newsgroups I can see what I posted??? _______ _____ ______ _____ / / | | / / | | | ___/ | _ | ( ( | _ | | / | | \ \ | | | | | /| | ) ) | /| | |___| |_/ |_| /____ / |_/ |_| "...Friendship fun, CSUN CSUN..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 10:53:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22416; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:53:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03811; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:45:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03805; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:45:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaSVE-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: datacal@indirect.com (Data Cal Corp.) Subject: Pine and SCO Date: 16 Aug 1994 17:13:18 GMT Message-Id: <32qs3e$16g@herald.indirect.com> I would like to get some help here, I have pine 3.89 from soils.agron.iastate.edu that is patched to work with MMDF. I can read mail but can not send mail. Pine says it was sent but no record of it was made. Is there a better way to get a good frount end that will work with MMDF and UUCP. Thanks David Allred DataCal Corporation datacal@indirect.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 11:11:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23231; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:11:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22705; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22697; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:04:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaSlm-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 10:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: , in name in " " Message-Id: Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 17:14:52 GMT when using replay to, if the sender has a name like: "Blow, Joe" pine will split the line after "Blow, ..." in the same way that it does it when you have mail that goes (in replay) to several receipients... I do not know if this cause a problem by itself (I correct this manually deleting the offending coma), but, sometimes (specially when quick answering to some mail with a mere yes or no), the editing could be anoying. Is that solved in 3.9... or there is something that I can do in 3.89 that I did not notice (the question for 3.89 is because I'm not overlly optimist that netcom will install 3.9 pronto...) Thaks Pucho (aka marcos)(pucho@netcom.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 12:10:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25421; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05215; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:05:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05209; Tue, 16 Aug 94 12:05:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaTj1-000012C; Tue, 16 Aug 94 11:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: , in name in " " Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 18:23:03 GMT Message-Id: References: Marcos Rubinstein (pucho@netcom.com) wrote: : when using replay to, if the sender has a name like: : "Blow, Joe" : pine will split the line after "Blow, ..." in the same way that it does it : when you have mail that goes (in replay) to several receipients... : I do not know if this cause a problem by itself (I correct this manually : deleting the offending coma), but, sometimes (specially when quick answering : to some mail with a mere yes or no), the editing could be anoying. : Is that solved in 3.9... or there is something that I can do in 3.89 that I : did not notice (the question for 3.89 is because I'm not overlly optimist : that netcom will install 3.9 pronto...) It looks to me like it's fixed in 3.90, but I'd have to wait for the final version to come out. Anyway, even though it shows the addresses incorrectly in the composer, there is no danger to send them right back out unedited. I do this all the time without problems. I don't think it could possibly be a problem unless you're sending to many addresses, and at the particular place where that address is, Pine wants to break a line. But for normal usage, no problem. That is to say, it never broke for me, but I never do anything truly weird with mail. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 13:22:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28839; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:22:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25416; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25410; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:18:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaUtr-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (D. A. Scocca) Subject: Updating the INBOX? Date: 16 Aug 1994 19:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> I have a question in Unix Pine 3.89... I know it only checks my incoming mail file at intervals, and that I can force it to do so by eXpunging deleted messages or by quitting and restarting mail. On occasion, I will send a message while my inbox is empty... I have Pine set to put my outgoing messages in the inbox, however, I can't make the message I just sent appear in my inbox (so I can file it and go on to doing something else) without either waiting or quitting and restarting. Is there any kind of "update" command that will check /usr/spool/mail and add new messages immediately to the index of the inbox? Dave -- * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 14:43:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02046; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:43:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08114; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:33:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08102; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:33:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaW2F-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 14:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu (Gary J LaPointe) Subject: Pine 3.89 on Aux 3.02 Date: 16 Aug 1994 21:01:21 GMT Message-Id: <32r9f1$sf4@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> Help! Trying to compile pine3.89 (from jagubox). Attached is the result of a BUILD AUX. Pico goes fine. They are all erroring on the lack of ability to find library libiberty.a I found a note on it that gave me some vague information in the pine_diffs.notes but it was not specific enough (where do I get it in gcc and where do I put it and what does it have to do with memmove?!?). Can anybody help? Thanks, Gary Gary J LaPointe gary@ah3.cal.msu.edu http://web.cal.msu.edu/gary/gary.html >build aux make args are "CC=gcc" Making c-client library and mtest echo -O2 > CFLAGS echo -liberty > LDFLAGS gcc -O2 -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `mtest' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 44 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/ma kefile.aux] Making Imapd cd ../c-client;make echo -O2 > CFLAGS echo -liberty > LDFLAGS gcc -O2 -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `mtest' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 44 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/c-client/ma kefile] Make: *** Error: Update of `C-CLIENT' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 47 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/imap/non-ANSI/imapd/Makef ile] Making Pico Making Pine. echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c gcc -c -O2 -o date.o date.c gcc -O2 -o pine addrbook.o addrutil.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o fil ter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o print.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o st rings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.o ../pico/libpico.a ./c-client/c-client.a -l termcap -lc -lposix -liberty ld *command line*: can't find library libiberty.a collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Make: *** Error: Update of `pine' terminated with exit code 1 Make: [line 32 in /users/gary/pine/pine3.89/pine/makefile.aux] Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open bin/pico: Size of bin/pico: 0x311de Section Size Physical Address Virtual Address .text 0x0001cb08 0x00000148 0x00000148 .data 0x00002f50 0x00400c50 0x00400c50 .bss 0x00007eaa 0x00403ba0 0x00403ba0 .lt12069 0x000073bc 0x47f00000 0x47f00000 .ld12076 0x0000244c 0x47fc0000 0x47fc0000 .lb12077 0x00000094 0x47fc244c 0x47fc244c .lib 0x00000040 0x00000000 0x00000000 Done (THIS IS ACTUALLY THE BUILD AFTER IT HAD PREVIOUSLY FAILED ONCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:27:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03825; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:27:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28121; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28115; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:18:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaWnn-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:43:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32r54r$tk1@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Aug 1994, D. A. Scocca wrote: > I have a question in Unix Pine 3.89... I know it only checks my > incoming mail file at intervals, and that I can force it to do so by > eXpunging deleted messages or by quitting and restarting mail. > > On occasion, I will send a message while my inbox is empty... I have > Pine set to put my outgoing messages in the inbox, however, I can't > make the message I just sent appear in my inbox (so I can file it and > go on to doing something else) without either waiting or quitting and > restarting. > > Is there any kind of "update" command that will check /usr/spool/mail > and add new messages immediately to the index of the inbox? > > Dave > -- > * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * > * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * > * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * > * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:38:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04399; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:38:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09169; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09163; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaX2z-00000IC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: second sub directory for mail Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 14:58:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32ou7g$ln9@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> You can have access as many directories as you want. Just list them on the folder-collections line in your .pinerc file (comma separated list). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 15 Aug 1994, Richard McMahon wrote: > I am running Pine 3.90 under SuOS 4 > > I have placed old sent-mail and old mail in a subdirectory on another > disk which has a link to my mail subdirectory. When I use Goto folders > and browse down to the relevant directory I cannot enter it. > > Does Pine support alternative folder sub-directories? > > How do I access them? > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 15:41:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04500; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:41:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28414; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28408; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:33:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaX36-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: trouble with FROM line Date: Tue, 16 Aug 1994 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It looks like your system has not been configured properly. Check your /etc/hosts file to make sure it is configured properly. It also looks like your news software is using similar unconfigured defaults... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 16 Aug 1994, Dennis Duffner wrote: > It seems that PINE wants to put 'duffy@hostname.subdomain.domain' in my > FROM line and I'm at a loss to figure out how to remedy that. > > Any ideas welcome! > > Dennis > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 20:16:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11990; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:16:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13887; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:07:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13881; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:07:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qabJT-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: When INBOX empty, do nuttin' Message-Id: References: <322vme$bbv@crl2.crl.com> <32brg9$36d@gibeah.connected.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:42:01 GMT instead of invoking pine, call the "old" mail... (in unix) mail will give you either a "no mail for ..." or a list of your mail... then press "q". is much faster than pine. Sometimes I use this before deciding if i will use pine to read the mail... Pucho (I now there are scripts to give you an alert each time that you have mail, listing from and subject, and also will give you that info at any time) Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 20:53:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12523; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03528; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:44:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03522; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:44:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qabtU-00000PC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 20:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: faq for procmail? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 01:44:37 GMT Does anybody knows where can I get a faq on procmail (man is obscure!) Thanks Shalom ve Tzedek Pucho (pucho@netcom.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 23:03:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:03:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15994; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:58:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15988; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:58:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qadxk-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 22:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU (Jonathan Loh) Subject: Automated Filer? Date: 17 Aug 1994 05:50:12 GMT Message-Id: <32s8ek$am5@nic-nac.CSU.net> Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the filter command. -- Jonathan jloh@futon.sfsu.edu **** Please quote from this message when responding --- Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Aug 16 23:59:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16299; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:59:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05956; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:54:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05950; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:54:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaepq-00000LC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhotti@paju.oulu.fi (Marko Hotti) Subject: Re: Automated Filer? Date: 17 Aug 1994 06:31:53 GMT Message-Id: <32sasp$36s@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <32s8ek$am5@nic-nac.CSU.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jonathan Loh (jloh@futon.SFSU.EDU) wrote: : Is there a way of putting mail in seperate mailboxes? without : using something like procmail? In elm this is possible, using the : filter command. With Pine you can use the same filter command and filter-rules file in the $HOME/.elm -directory as you would use with Elm. --- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Marko Hotti Email: Marko.Hotti@oulu.fi Tervontie 4 C 11 X.400: /S=mhotti/OU=paju/O=oulu/ADMD=fumail FIN-90230 OULU /C=fi/ Tel: +358-(9)81-530 4878 Talk : mhotti@paju.oulu.fi -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 00:07:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16496; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:07:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16782; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:58:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16776; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:58:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaetr-00000aC; Tue, 16 Aug 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl (S.G. de Bruijn) Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 06:08:36 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... My solaris pine 3.88 doesn't... Steef -------------- S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science Enschede The Netherlands Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- signature: file not found From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 00:53:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17687; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:53:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06679; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:48:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06673; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:48:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaffh-00000LC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 00:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Simmons - DCS) Subject: Always Spell Checking Signature Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 07:31:20 GMT Hello: I have a problem when composing or editing letters in pine. My signature (from .signature) is always posted at the bottom of the editor. This is fine except that when I invoke ^T to check the spelling, it repeatedly asks for corrections (not being able to recognize names, domains etc.) Is there a way to have the spell checker ignore my signature. P.S. This is not a problem when posting news as the signature file is appended after the editing and command to send. ...thanks ...Mike -- ****************************************************************************** R. Michael Simmons (phone) 519-888-4567 ext. 3456 Computer Services (fax) 519-884-4398 University of Waterloo (email) msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 01:16:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18554; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:16:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17857; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17851; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:11:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qag0K-00000cC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 01:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@lykos.netpart.com (Phil Trubey) Subject: POP client for Pine? Date: 16 Aug 1994 23:50:25 -0700 Message-Id: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? -- Phil Trubey | Providing independent consulting in the NetPartners | application of Internet technology. E-mail: phil@netpart.com | Home Page: http://www.netpart.com/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 04:00:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22498; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:00:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09145; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:55:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09139; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:55:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaic1-00000fC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 03:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: CTRL-C wrong key in MAC Date: 17 Aug 1994 01:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <32rol0$rb0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> I have installed pine 3.89 on our HP. I am using a MAC with small keyboard to connect with UNIX via telnet. When I run pine, the key CTRL-C is supposed to cancel editing and return to Main Menu. However, it return to quit pine. Is there any bug with my version of pine? How to correct it? Will it happen in the new version of Pine? -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 04:34:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23833; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20389; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:29:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20383; Wed, 17 Aug 94 04:29:29 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <08263-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:20:30 +0100 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA01677; Wed, 17 Aug 94 12:33:10 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:33:09 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell To: Law Mow-man Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: CTRL-C wrong key in MAC In-Reply-To: <32rol0$rb0@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think you may have your Telnet set up to inercept Ctrl/C and interpret it as Interrupt Process. Try looking in your Session menu at Setup Keys. No promises, but I rmember there was a funny like this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Brudenell E-mail: pmb1@unix.york.ac.uk The Computing Service Phone: (+44) 904 433811 University of York FAX: (+44) 904 432767 Heslington York YO1 5DD U.K. On 17 Aug 1994, Law Mow-man wrote: > I have installed pine 3.89 on our HP. I am using a MAC with small keyboard > to connect with UNIX via telnet. When I run pine, the key CTRL-C is > supposed to cancel editing and return to Main Menu. However, it return to > quit pine. Is there any bug with my version of pine? How to correct it? > Will it happen in the new version of Pine? > > -- > Morris Law > Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong > Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 > Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk > ========================================================================= > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 06:09:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26818; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:09:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21699; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:58:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21693; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:58:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qakVm-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 05:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed Message-Id: <1994Aug17.121351.3464@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 12:13:51 GMT Subject: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL9] Hello there... I've just compiled Pine3.89 on a Solaris 2.2 system and it seems to be working fine... The .pine-debug report however includes this line: ioctl (TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Is this something I should be worried about? Have I failed to compile it OK? I would be most grateful for any help on this matter... Thanks! Peter Bates From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 06:49:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27782; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:49:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11618; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:29:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11612; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:29:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qal2o-00000ZC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 06:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vvermeir@nessy.rug.ac.be (Viviane Vermeire) Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi Date: 17 Aug 1994 13:10:04 GMT Message-Id: <32t27c$kta@infoserv.rug.ac.be> References: <32apis$4i3@Tut.MsState.Edu> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : On 10 Aug 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: : > How do you keep your screen from junking up in pine 3.89 when printing? : > : > : > Every time I print it also displays the message or send s the output to the : > screen also. This junks up the scrween and if you want to print other letters : > it looks kind of goofy. : > : This is a problem with the communication software on your PC... Is it possible to be more specific about what kind of problem ? It seems to me that, when using earlier versions of NCSA Telnet than 2.3.07 r2, no output is displayed on the screen. Viviane. E-mail: Viviane.Vermeire@rug.ac.be From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:24:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00947; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:24:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13296; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13290; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24175; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:16:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:16:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Phil Trubey Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client for Pine? In-Reply-To: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? It's being considered. The protocol part is easy (and in fact the C-client libraries include a POP driver), but we have not yet thought about all the other stuff, e.g. what new configuration variables are needed to distinguish between the remote INBOX --which is now just an intermediate drop point-- and the local INBOX you wish to append new messages to; how to control disconnecting and reconnecting to check for new mail, etc, etc. So, no promises yet, but it could happen --perhaps as an adjunct to the offline processing support planned for a future release. -teg p.s. I have my own thoughts on why doing this might make sense, even though we have no plans to deploy POP at UW, but I'd be interested in hearing from you in a private message about why you are interested. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:37:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01551; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:37:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24096; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:29:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24090; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:29:06 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11573; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:31:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: How to unsubscribe? To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could anybody tell me how to unsubscribe this mail list? I have tried many times in different ways, but I still keep receiving mails from this group. Thank you very much. Sharon Deng Assistant Director Internet: deng@ultrix.uor.edu Academic Computer Center deng@jccvms.uor.edu University of Redlands Phone: (909)793-2121 x.4963 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:47:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01949; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:47:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13826; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13820; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:39:06 -0700 Received: from acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca by acs7.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA32455; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:42:35 -0600 Received: by acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76504; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:42:34 -0600 Message-Id: <9408171542.AA76504@acs3.acs.ucalgary.ca> Subject: Pico fill column To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 17 Aug 94 9:42:34 MDT From: "Deborah Teale" In-Reply-To: ; from "David L Miller" at Aug 15, 94 10:39 am Operating-System: AIX 2 3 Organization: Academic Computing Services X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11y] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 312 In 3.89 (pico 2.3) it seems pico will set the fill column according to the window size which is awkward with X-Windows. Will this be a control argument or user-settable option in 3.90 so that pico can be used with other applications? -- Debbie Teale, UCS, University of Calgary E-mail: teale@acs.ucalgary.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 08:55:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02368; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:55:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24621; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:50:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24615; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:50:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qanEC-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 08:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmcgaf@ee.WPI.EDU (Jay C McGaffigan) Subject: Where is the pine FAQ?? Date: 17 Aug 1994 14:20:41 GMT Message-Id: <32t6bp$cf1@bigboote.WPI.EDU> could someone tell me where the pine FAQ is? email only please to either jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu or jcmcgaffigan@tasc.com Thanks in advance!!! Jay -- || Jay McGaffigan || "For I will find the || || jmcgaf@ee.wpi.edu ||song or you will find || || ||the song." || || || Wheel of Time || From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:00:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05560; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:00:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26245; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mozart.csc.wsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26239; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:26 -0700 Received: (from dickinso@localhost) by mozart.csc.wsu.edu (8.6.9/WSUit-1.1) id JAA01288; Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:56:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 09:51:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Diane Dickinson Subject: Non-expansion of dist list To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Will there ever be the ability to hide distribution list members in the to header using Pine? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:08:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05905; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15556; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15550; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:56:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoD2-00000QC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 09:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Updating the INBOX? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The new mail check was added in Pine 3.89. In earlier releases you can press 'N' a few times at the end of the index. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 17 Aug 1994, S.G. de Bruijn wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > : ^L will check for new mail as it repaints the screen... > > My solaris pine 3.88 doesn't... > > Steef > -------------- > S.G. de Bruijn E-Mail: debruijn@cs.utwente.nl > Twente University of Technology, Dept. of Computer Science > Enschede The Netherlands > Phone: Work: +53 894191 Home: +53 334812 > -----------------------==== @@ ====----------------------- > signature: file not found > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:13:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06146; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26544; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26538; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoOt-00000NC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: POP client for Pine? Date: Wed, 17 Aug 1994 08:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32sc02$c0a@lykos.netpart.com> The underlying c-client library that Pine uses now supports POP, so it would not be hard to hack in POP support, but we are waiting until we can make Pine behave like a more traditional POP client... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Aug 1994, Phil Trubey wrote: > Are there any plans to include a POP client in Pine? > > -- > Phil Trubey | Providing independent consulting in the > NetPartners | application of Internet technology. > E-mail: phil@netpart.com | Home Page: http://www.netpart.com/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Aug 17 10:13:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06179; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:13:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15849; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15843; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:08:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qaoP9-00000QC; Wed, 17 Aug 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where is the pine FAQ?? Date: