From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 08:03:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27681; Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:03:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26650; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:54:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26644; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:54:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJjfs-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dqle@netcom.com (The Road Warrior) Subject: Re: Which Mircophone version Message-Id: References: <199406292230.AA20318@crl.crl.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 07:42:32 GMT San Francisco Airport (sooffice@crl.com) wrote: : I was hoping someone could help me pick which MicroPhone version to buy. : Pine help says for printing and receiving Mac users should buy MicroPhone : 2, version 4.0. The latest versions are MicroPhone Pro 2.0 and : MicroPhone 2, versrion 5.0. Which one will work better? : I would appreciate any advice : Anton Goldman : Bureau of Exhibitions, SFIA I've been using Microphone II version 4.03 with my account at Netcom, and it's done beautifully for me. I looked thru all the new features present in Microphone Pro, but didn't care to shell out the extra cash to go for those bells and whistles. I suggest you buy Microphone II version 5.0, you'll be quite happy with it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David "Q" Le "I...am Q...and you have absolutely Market Strategies, Inc. *no* idea how screwed up this is..." dqle@netcom.com (Q-squared, by Peter David) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 09:16:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00780; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:16:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15570; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:09:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15564; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:09:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJkqo-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:45:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9407011551.AA14545@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> In article <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>, jxt@ca04.cad.ornl.gov write: |> |> I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book such |> that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC header field |> would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the address book. |> |> For example, composing mail to "joe" would produce |> |> Fcc : mail-to-joe When I moved to Pine from IBM VM Rice Mail (which had a NOTEBOOK tag feature in the NAMES file, the equivalent of .addressbook), I suggested this to Pine's authors. They very kindly took notice of it and inserted it in the wishlist, I wonder if it will be implemented soon. B.t.w. I hope your suggestion does not imply that all mail to "pinco" is saved in folder "mail-to-pinco", but in a named folder, whose name you choose in .addressbook. This way one can log mail to individuals according to projects. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 10:11:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03053; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29703; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29697; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJlio-00000JC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com (Chris Garrigues) Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 14:54:17 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also >possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new >driver.... I finally did this yesterday and Pine 3.89 doesn't appear to work with IMAP 3.4; I had problems with the identifier "lhostn" which appears to have disappeared from IMAP. Chris -- Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 12:41:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07898; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:41:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20228; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20222; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:31:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJo1u-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) Subject: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:52:10 GMT Message-Id: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). I don't mind that lack of .record from the list of folders (this is a feature as far as I am concerned, since I can jump to and read the folder without any problem). On the other hand, this folder name breaks sending mail from compose. When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: If I say no, pine complains that the fcc was rejected. If I say yes, I complains that it couldn't create it since it already exists. In any case, I can't send the message unless I change the fcc field. Thanks. -- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:09:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09050; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03491; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03485; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:01:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJoVg-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B. Horen) Subject: VI-style Cursor Movement? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 18:55:25 GMT Shalom! I'm running Pine 3.89.1.2 (Hebrew support) at our site, so I've begun using it myself (me -- an old /usr/ucb/mail diehard :) OK -- thanks for the help about using ¬/ on my VT220 at home to get outta that *awful* PICO and back into VI. Now... is there any way to teach Pine to recognize the j and k keys within menus as Next/Previous Line? and the h and l keys, too, within folder listings? ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- Jonathan B. Horen Sr. System Administrator Applicom Systems, Ltd. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:20:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09337; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21084; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:10:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21078; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:10:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJofH-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rohit Gupta Subject: Re: Which Mircophone version Message-Id: References: <199406292230.AA20318@crl.crl.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 05:52:27 GMT San Francisco Airport (sooffice@crl.com) wrote: : I was hoping someone could help me pick which MicroPhone version to buy. : Pine help says for printing and receiving Mac users should buy MicroPhone : 2, version 4.0. The latest versions are MicroPhone Pro 2.0 and : MicroPhone 2, versrion 5.0. Which one will work better? : I would appreciate any advice : Anton Goldman : Bureau of Exhibitions, SFIA I personally have Microphone LT, which came with my modem. But My friend has Microphone Pro 2.0, which he says is much better. It is more powerful, and easier to use. That would be your best bet. However, I don't know how much it costs, but it shouldn't be over $150. Actually, it costs $149.95 in Mac Wharehouse. E-mail me on your choice. I want to see what you picked. -- Rohit Gupta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:22:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09401; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03994; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:17:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03988; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:17:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJojc-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Cheese & Onions) Subject: Re: Getting files from the disc into pine Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <2v1s5t$4ai@panther.Gsu.EDU> References: : : Is it at all possible to get a file from one of my discs and then put : : it in to the pine editor and then post it on ? Please would you explain : It sounds like you want to (1) upload a file from some other computer and : then (2) bring that file into Pine for mailing. #1 has too many : variations to make it efficient to try to answer it without more : information, and someone "local" to your working environment will : probably be able to help you more efficiently. Unless you're using a Windows terminal to read pine mail, like I do (I log on to my school's mainframe via Windows Terminal). If you do this, then you can cut text with the mouse and paste it (use the menu in case the Paste keys cause your email computer system to do funky things). If I have text from a wordprocessor, a gopher item, or world wide web that I want to share with someone, I Cut it with the mouse, Paste it into Notepad, edit it there, Cut it all at once with the mouse and Paste it into pine. Try it! For #2: once you have : the file in a directory on the same computer that's running pine for you, : the Ctrl-R command starts R)eading it "in" to your Pine document. Once : you've typed Ctrl-R, the menu changes and Ctrl-T gives you a list of : currently accessible files. If you know the file is somewhere, and it : doesn't show up in that list, you'll need to use your host systems : file-management commands to move it to the right directory. You may see : various ugly things in the file once you bring it in to Pine -- that will : be because the upload process hasn't dealt completely with the variations : in conventions about how to store text in files. If that happens, you'll : need to ask more, and more specific, questions about the upload processes : that suit your situation. : It sounds worse than it is. But it did take me a while to figure out. : And I still get "Warning: last line of file is {something wrong}" : messages about half the time. Sometimes there's a ^Z there. Deleting it : seems to get rid of the problem. : Incidently, the reverse process starts with Ctrl-E, to E)xport the text : of your pine message to a file which can be downloaded, etc. : Good luck, : Putnam Barber : Seattle -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Poulakos engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu **All postings from engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu: (c) James Poulakos, 1994, unless otherwise noted therein. All rights reserved.** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:26:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09480; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:26:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21255; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21249; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJono-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewn@uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:46:59 GMT Message-Id: <2v1rrj$liq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) writes: >Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's >mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). > >When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: > > Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: A few minutes ago, I had the same problem for the first time. It didn't do it for the next mail I sent out, though. It would seem to be an intermittant problem. Any clues? -- Matt Hewn -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 14:39:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12281; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:39:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05600; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:31:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05594; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJprG-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt) Subject: Cursor movement; Other suggestions for next upgrade Date: 1 Jul 1994 08:15:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199407011315.JAA03796@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU> This past upgrade of pico (I'm using 2.2 on Unix) is *great!* Marking blocks is a large improvement. Thanks. I'm glad to hear that there will be a way to move to the beginning and end of a file. I'd also like to suggest that the next version have a way to move back one word at a time. Also, it would be very helpful if one could perform a file save on a marked block rather than having to delete the rest of the file and change the file name. It's probably been mentioned before, but tagging messages in pine would be very helpful for batch deletes or saves. Back to pico, is there a way to make a supplementary dictionary for spell checking? That would be a great help to me. I'm encouraged to find this newsgroup, and impressed at the 'complaint department' work Dave Miller is providing. --Joe Joe Butt -- jabutt@sacam.oren.ortn.edu ***** As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in finding mistakes in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes discovers debugging, 1949 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 15:24:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:24:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24001; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:20:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23995; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:20:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJqhb-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) Subject: Re: Shareware Postscript Converter Date: 2 Jul 1994 00:16:02 +0300 Message-Id: <2v212iINNhq0@tahma.cs.hut.fi> References: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> <2utfv8$oca@nwfocus.wa.com> <2uvjsd$lgd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In <2uvjsd$lgd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> altitude@umich.edu (Alex Tang) writes: >Actually, enscript (at least the version 3 and up) is licensed to adobe. >it's not free. But then there is nenscript, which is. My version is 1.13. -- Sami.Tikka@hut.fi "Peace and Long Life." "Live Long and Prosper." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 15:39:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14277; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06819; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06813; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJqqv-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Message-Id: <1994Jul1.210803.14511@henson.cc.wwu.edu> References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:08:03 GMT David L Miller writes: >This is a known problem. In the interim, try making a symbolic link from >sent-mail to .record... >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 1 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: [ Rest of message eliminated.] This was a perfect example of why I prefer the original message to come 1st. Being at a site close to the U. of W. I almost always get David's prompt responses before I see the original post, and in this case, as in others, the reply didn't make sense until I'd read the question, by which time I'd forgotten the reply, so had to go back up to it. Somehow that seems like *lots* more work than using ^V to skim past material I don't need to see when the original message comes 1st. I'll certainly 2nd the comments that David's replies are excellent. Evelyn -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:24:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15934; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07890; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07884; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrbV-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: ^L Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:52:23 -0500 Message-Id: |> : Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE) (u934132@student.canberra.edu.au) wrote: |> : : How can Insert ^Ls in pine - Any way? |> What I did was to create a file .FormFeed in my home directory, containing a single form feed, and including it with control-R when I need it od -a .FormFeed 0000000 ff nl -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:25:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15954; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25283; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25277; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrbT-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: sorting addresses by nickname Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9407011558.AA14570@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: In article , ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) write: |> I would like to sort the e-mail addresses in my Adressbook according to the |> nickname given to this address. Pine sorts by Addressee name. I do not I use the following trick (works only if nickname is either surname or first name). If the nickname is the first name I insert the data in .addressbook as follows anna Anna Silina c/o IFCTR silina@ifctr.mi.cnr.it if it is the surname instead I use abbey Abbey - Leicester, Tony afa@star.le.ac.uk Pine will take care of reversing everything after a comma, so the latter will appear addressed as To: Tony Abbey - Leicester -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:29:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16153; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:29:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25394; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25388; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrge-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9407011551.AA14545@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Pine 3.90 will have an Fcc entry in the addressbook... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In article <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>, jxt@ca04.cad.ornl.gov write: > |> > |> I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book such > |> that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC header field > |> would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the address book. > |> > |> For example, composing mail to "joe" would produce > |> > |> Fcc : mail-to-joe > > When I moved to Pine from IBM VM Rice Mail (which had a NOTEBOOK > tag feature in the NAMES file, the equivalent of .addressbook), I > suggested this to Pine's authors. > They very kindly took notice of it and inserted it in the wishlist, > I wonder if it will be implemented soon. > > B.t.w. I hope your suggestion does not imply that all mail to > "pinco" is saved in folder "mail-to-pinco", but in a named folder, > whose name you choose in .addressbook. > This way one can log mail to individuals according to projects. > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign > via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign > Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | > Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 17:13:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17988; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:13:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09141; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:07:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09135; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:07:36 -0700 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA04460; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:07:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: huh To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 19:24:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20485; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:24:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11071; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11065; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:20:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJuSV-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Bengt-Erik Norum) Subject: Pine for Novell Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:17:13 GMT Message-Id: <2v1q3p$rbg@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Is there a pine that will read .cnm files on novell? -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:25:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21501; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:25:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29422; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:21:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29416; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:21:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvOk-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: fix os.c [Re: mh folders] Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 19:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v2el7$if4@news.doit.wisc.edu> The #mh/folder will work on the folder-collections line in your .pinerc, but not at the Goto prompt... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Jul 1994, Mumit Khan wrote: > In article , wrote: > > David L Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >>I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in > >>pine/init.c and get it to compile... > > > >It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I > >could have had something else still wrong. > > > >Chris > > the other thing you have to do is to '#' out of the 'illegal first character' > set in os.c (line 392 and thereabouts), so #mh/folder would be considered > a valid folder name. I still can't get it to work, but that's probably my > lack of knowledge in addressing folders in pine. > > mumit > > %-----------------------------------------------------------------% > Mumit Khan khan@xraylith.wisc.edu > Center for X-ray Lithography Tel: 608-877-2418 > University of Wisconsin-Madison FAX: 608-877-2401 > %-----------------------------------------------------------------% > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:41:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21805; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:41:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12209; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12203; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvae-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in pine/init.c and get it to compile... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Chris Garrigues wrote: > In article , > David L Miller wrote: > > > >Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also > >possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new > >driver.... > > I finally did this yesterday and Pine 3.89 doesn't appear to work with > IMAP 3.4; I had problems with the identifier "lhostn" which appears to > have disappeared from IMAP. > > Chris > > > -- > Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com > Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 > 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 > Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:41:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21826; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:41:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29663; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29657; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvaq-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> This is a known problem. In the interim, try making a symbolic link from sent-mail to .record... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: > Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's > mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). > > I don't mind that lack of .record from the list of folders (this is > a feature as far as I am concerned, since I can jump to and read > the folder without any problem). On the other hand, this folder name > breaks sending mail from compose. > > When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: > > Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: > > If I say no, pine complains that the fcc was rejected. If I say > yes, I complains that it couldn't create it since it already exists. > > In any case, I can't send the message unless I change the fcc field. > > Thanks. > > -- > Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner > simcha@cimage.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:49:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21973; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:49:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12331; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12325; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:48 -0700 Received: from [198.214.42.2] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18267; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:47 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06942; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:46:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:43:20 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Subject: deliver help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please tell me where to find documentation for the program deliver? thanks ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:52:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22060; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:52:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12365; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12357; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvjo-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edgar@.wired.com (Edgar Nielsen) Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 03:14:33 GMT I got this stuff working, but only when I access a folder using the imap daemon; i.e. I have to add {localhost} before the mailbox name. So I have to login via IMAP again, but at least it works! Edgar Nielsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 21:23:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22589; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00301; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:19:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from max.tiac.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00295; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:19:49 -0700 Received: (from cjwoods@localhost) by max.tiac.net (8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9) id AAA29143; Sat, 2 Jul 1994 00:14:59 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 00:14:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Woods Subject: Re: deliver help To: Alex Maldonado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > Can someone please tell me where to find documentation for the program > deliver? > > thanks ! > > I have some dox here that came with the Slackware installation I ftp'ed from tsx-11.mit.edu. Unfortunately, I don't know of any SEPARATE dox. Tried an archie search yet? Chris Woods----Customer Support----(617) 275-2221 The Internet Access Company--7 Railroad Ave.--Bedford, MA USA support@tiac.net-----help@tiac.net-----cjwoods@tiac.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 22:31:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23717; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:31:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01263; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:26:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01257; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:26:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJxIG-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:38:32 GMT David L Miller wrote in article : > > >I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in >pine/init.c and get it to compile... It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I could have had something else still wrong. Chris Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24458; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01926; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01920; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4v-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > -steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24462; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4u-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2us0m2$5vf@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck rpc.lockd on the server... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jun 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > I have tried to NFS mount the /usr/mail directory on an HP9000 running > hp-ux 9.0. The Pine tech notes imply that this shold work fairly well, > however, whenever I try to run pine on the mounted file system, it > simply hangs up forever, and has to be killed from another session. it > then becomes a "zombie" process. > > The problem seems to have something to do with file locking. When pine > hangs up, the mail file cannot be accessed even after the /usr/mail area > is unmounted. I had to rename the file and copy over the contents before > pine would open it again. I checked for lock files, and find only the > .\usr\mail\username file. Deleting it has no effect. > > Any recommendations about how to get this to work will be > greatly appreciated. > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24497; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14397; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14391; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4x-00000IC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v1q3p$rbg@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> What are .cnm files? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Bengt-Erik Norum wrote: > Is there a pine that will read .cnm files on novell? > > -- > Don Miller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu > :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu > +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu > +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu > +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# > #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# > ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:31:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24646; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02035; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02029; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:26:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJyFf-00000PC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: fix os.c [Re: mh folders] Date: 2 Jul 1994 01:07:51 GMT Message-Id: <2v2el7$if4@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: In article , wrote: > David L Miller wrote: >> >> >>I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in >>pine/init.c and get it to compile... > >It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I >could have had something else still wrong. > >Chris the other thing you have to do is to '#' out of the 'illegal first character' set in os.c (line 392 and thereabouts), so #mh/folder would be considered a valid folder name. I still can't get it to work, but that's probably my lack of knowledge in addressing folders in pine. mumit %-----------------------------------------------------------------% Mumit Khan khan@xraylith.wisc.edu Center for X-ray Lithography Tel: 608-877-2418 University of Wisconsin-Madison FAX: 608-877-2401 %-----------------------------------------------------------------% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 06:38:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03065; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:38:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20437; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:34:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20431; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:34:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qK4sE-000005C; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bogusz@fuw.edu.pl (Wojtek Bogusz) Subject: PINE and cryptography Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 13:06:27 GMT Hello, I would like to express few off my thoughts about what I need from pine to be able to do in the field of cryptography. I was thinking about using pine with PGP. I even got a patch which add to pico editor ability to crypt a message with recipients public key or sign it with your key. But there is no possibility to decrypt a message or check signature. What makes a usage of PGP impossible with pine. Wouldn't it be nice to add some extended field to mail header. Something like Content-Type: text/crypted, text/signature ...??? Such header would cause pine to start a command defined in .pinerc or in .mailcap This command would be started with some enviromental varialbe like SENDING (RECEIVING), TMP_MAIL_FILE, FROM_USER, FROM_HOST, TO_USER, TO_HOST read from the header. This command would get and return a mail body through TMP_MAIL_FILE. In general it would be a good way when receiving and sending mail. When sending pine could have one extra field in Rich Hdr, Crypt: With value y or n And with default set in .pinerc. There would be also nice to be able to store your mail crypted in the folders on the disk. But it is reasonable (for example in PGP) to store them crypted in different way than how they where during sending/receiving (for example not in public-key but DES way). I wonder does anybody except me is interested to have thing like this in pine :-) ? And does this what I wrote makes sense at all ? Regards Wojtek Bogusz --- e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 13:46:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09091; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25993; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25987; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:42:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKBcb-000005C; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geter@crl.com (Andy Gelernter) Subject: filter -c command Date: 2 Jul 1994 13:16:12 -0700 Message-Id: <2v4huc$bgf@crl2.crl.com> I am using filter to route incoming email in pine and everything works great - but the command filter -c (used at the % prompt) seems to get lost in cyberspace... I have waited upto 5 minutes and it does not seem to work. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong? -c option is used to clear the filterlog file. also i found out that in the filter-rules you can sort based on the FROM line in an email header and not just the TO and CC lines :) thanks in advance - andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 20:22:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14842; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:22:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01227; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01221; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:14:55 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16633; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:15:20 +0800 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 11:15:19 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: filter -c command To: Andy Gelernter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2v4huc$bgf@crl2.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jul 1994, Andy Gelernter wrote: > I am using filter to route incoming email in pine and everything works > great - but the command filter -c (used at the % prompt) seems to get > lost in cyberspace... I have waited upto 5 minutes and it does not seem > to work. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong? -c option is used to clear the > filterlog file. > > also i found out that in the filter-rules you can sort based on the FROM > line in an email header and not just the TO and CC lines :) Since "filter" is from the elm distribution don't you think that the elm group would have been a more appropriate place to ask this question? Be that as it may....have you tried: filter -c -s or filter -c -S regards, Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:00:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17568; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:00:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21378; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21364; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKKCd-00000IC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sayhow@solomon.technet.sg (Foo Say How) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 3 Jul 1994 05:27:01 GMT Message-Id: <2v5i75$cme@raffles.technet.sg> References: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> It will ok if you only send ONE paragraph through PINE. If you have compose your letter offline, and consist of several paragraph, with columnar text and numbers, you will find all these jumble up into one paragraph. The only way out for me is is load in joe and upload the ascii file as text, save it as file (or as the origibal posted suggest upload as file and read in.) It is nothing to do with how my program is configured if I can upload OK into Joe, I should upload OK into PINE, so the question is then how is PINE/PICO configuration differ from JOE? FSH Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: : I have had fairly good luck uploading text files using Procomm's Ascii upload : directly into Pine's compose mode - which fill the screen with ANSI : looking stuff - but pressing ^J (Justify) usually removes the ANSI stuff, : making this the simplest upload procedure of all. I don't know how : reliable it is either, but it seems to usually work for me. : Dan : On 28 Jun 1994, Dan Ford wrote: : > >>On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in : > >>ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most : > >>of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then : > >>cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX : > >>account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you : > >>have spoken. : > >> : > If I go right ahead and send it, however, the message seems to unscramble : > itself and comes out okay at the other end. I've done this sending : > letters to myself, but I am not quite prepared to risk it off-site. So I : > use the mail utility mentioned in an earlier posting. : > -- : > - Dan : > : -- : ===================================== : Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College : Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu : "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:20:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17917; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:20:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03631; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:13:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03624; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:13:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKKV2-00000BC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE and cryptography Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 22:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Nathaniel Borenstein recently submitted a draft proposal for PGP support in MIME. It is very possible that Pine will support this proposal at some point, assuming it develops in a reasonable fashion. It is available as draft-borenstein-pgp-mime-00.txt or draft-borenstein-pgp-mime-00.ps from your nearest RFC repository (e.g. ftp.isi.edu). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 2 Jul 1994, Wojtek Bogusz wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to express few off my thoughts about what I need from > pine to be able to do in the field of cryptography. > > I was thinking about using pine with PGP. I even got a patch which > add to pico editor ability to crypt a message with recipients public > key or sign it with your key. But there is no possibility to decrypt a > message or check signature. What makes a usage of PGP impossible with > pine. > > Wouldn't it be nice to add some extended field to mail header. > Something like Content-Type: text/crypted, text/signature ...??? Such > header would cause pine to start a command defined in .pinerc or in > .mailcap This command would be started with some enviromental varialbe > like SENDING (RECEIVING), TMP_MAIL_FILE, FROM_USER, FROM_HOST, > TO_USER, TO_HOST read from the header. This command would get and > return a mail body through TMP_MAIL_FILE. In general it would be a > good way when receiving and sending mail. When sending pine could have > one extra field in Rich Hdr, Crypt: With value y or n And with default > set in .pinerc. > > There would be also nice to be able to store your mail crypted in the > folders on the disk. But it is reasonable (for example in PGP) to > store them crypted in different way than how they where during > sending/receiving (for example not in public-key but DES way). > > I wonder does anybody except me is interested to have thing like this > in pine :-) ? And does this what I wrote makes sense at all ? > > Regards > Wojtek Bogusz > > --- > e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:49:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18391; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:49:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22062; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22056; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKL1f-00000BC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svierte@ecst.csuchico.edu (Steve Viertell) Subject: Arrow Cursor Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 23:24:41 UNDEFINED Message-Id: I know there has been some discussion on this in the past, but I can't remember what the answers were; How do you have Pine default to using an arrow cursor to point to your selection on the menus instead of the inverse highlight. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 09:54:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28262; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:54:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11899; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:43:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11893; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:43:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKUKd-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edb@ten-fwd.airpcs.com (Earl Baker) Subject: Question-Re: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: 3 Jul 1994 16:20:07 GMT Message-Id: <2v6ofn$ddu@news.cerf.net> References: <2un7ht$7r3@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> In article <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, Big Brother wrote: >Put the distribution list in the 'bcc' (blind carbon copy) line. You can get >to 'bcc' by type Ctrl R while in the header. None of the recipients will see >who it went to. Is there any limit to the number of names in the bcc line? If I am distributing a mailer to, say, 150 people, will it balk at me? Earl Baker -- edb@airpcs.com a.k.a. skyweasel@airpcs.com sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 11:56:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29904; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01438; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:49:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01432; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:49:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKWJ3-00000LC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Question-Re: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v6ofn$ddu@news.cerf.net> There is no theoretical limit to the number of addresses in any of the headers. There have been occasional interaction problems with sendmail for very long lists though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Jul 1994, Earl Baker wrote: > In article <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, > Big Brother wrote: > >Put the distribution list in the 'bcc' (blind carbon copy) line. You can get > >to 'bcc' by type Ctrl R while in the header. None of the recipients will see > >who it went to. > > Is there any limit to the number of names in the bcc line? If I > am distributing a mailer to, say, 150 people, will it balk at me? > > Earl Baker > > -- > edb@airpcs.com a.k.a. skyweasel@airpcs.com > sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l > ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l > sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 13:57:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01848; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:57:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15012; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:49:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15006; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:49:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYB6-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macke@isca.uiowa.edu (Brian Macke) Subject: VMS Pine and .pinerc Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <2v762o$f2@nexus.uiowa.edu> I've sucsessfully compiled VMS Pine and Pico on our VAX and am anxious to try them out, but I've hit one snag. For some reason, our machine doesn't support SMTP. I get "Error connecting to mail server" when I try to send. My domain-server vaiable is set to "cnsvax.uwec.edu" I cannoy seem to set the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL variable for the life of me. Has anyone else run into this problem? Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian James Macke mackebj@cnsvax.uwec.edu The Prophet macke@lust.isca.uiowa.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:26:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02288; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03277; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:09:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03271; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:09:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYXy-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Don C. Miller) Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:36:57 GMT Message-Id: <2v77h9$def@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> References: > What are .cnm files? cnm is the extension that charon (whatever the mail server is) names the files when saving them. -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:34:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02403; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:34:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15422; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15416; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:19:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYeP-00000FC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Don C. Miller) Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:45:49 GMT Message-Id: <2v781t$dgh@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> References: <2v77h9$def@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Don C. Miller decided "Hey I will write": > > What are .cnm files? cnm is the extension that charon (whatever the mail server is) names the files when saving them. In other words is there a pine to do the equivalent of pegasus...at least in reading mail? I like pine much better than pegasus for dos. -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:41:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02523; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03523; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03517; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYqd-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mteicher@crl.com (M Teicher) Subject: Pine working then not Date: 3 Jul 1994 14:07:18 -0700 Message-Id: <2v79a7$mc5@crl.crl.com> I just installed Linux and Pine was working one day, then the next its not. When I type Pine, nothing happens and I have to hit Ctl-C to get back to the Linux command line. Can anyone help me in finding out what is happening? BTW the Pine executable is present. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 16:01:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03499; Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:01:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16627; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16621; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:54:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKa87-00000FC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hameluck@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Jeff Hameluck) Subject: Ctrl-C to Cancel Message Message-Id: <1994Jul03.215440.23564@sue.cc.uregina.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 1994 21:54:40 GMT I am trying to install Pine 3.89 on two different systems, an HP-UX 9 machine and a Solaris 2 machine. Both work ok but I have nothing but grief with the Ctrl-C to cancel a message thing. On HP-UX ctrl-C always bails right out of pine and on Solaris 2 it seems to work but 90% of the time I don't get the proper: Cancelling will abandon your mail message. Cancel? [n] : prompt above the command list (I can get it sometimes but it's easy and I'm never quite sure how I manage to get it) Usually nothing shows up and then if I hit n for No the No shows up wherever the cursor was. (This is using pico as the editor of course). It seems to me that on HP-UX pico/pine isn't handling the tty right and it is letting ctrl-c just kill it. I don't know what is happening on Solaris 2. Anyone else have these problems? It's quite bad because we were hoping to install pine as some user's shell (obviously this is something people have done/considered because a user can change their password from within pine) and hitting ctrl-c on HPUX when pine is your shell logs you right out. -- Jeff Hameluck hameluck@cs.uregina.ca CL 119 University of Regina (306) 585-4977 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 18:38:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05659; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:38:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06568; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06562; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:29:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKcbr-00000fC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cabirac@yorick.umd.edu (Daniel M. Cabirac) Subject: Cut and paste btwn files? Date: 4 Jul 1994 00:55:40 GMT Message-Id: <2v7mmc$rl8@umd5.umd.edu> How does one cut something out of a file with pico, save it to a file name and then paste it into a different file? Daniel Cabirac cabirac@umd5.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 21:16:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07866; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:16:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20699; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20693; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:10:51 -0700 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id VAA12650; Sun, 3 Jul 1994 21:11:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 21:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is > your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > > > -steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 22:30:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08956; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:30:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21705; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:24:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21699; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:24:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKgDQ-00000LC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oqp@cw-u02.umd.umich.edu (Christopher BIbbs) Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine Date: 4 Jul 1994 04:50:35 GMT Message-Id: <2v84er$8hb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: I've found the easiest way to figure this out if you use tin is to save the article then use pico to look at it. You'll see the path that the article took. The FIRST computer listed is your news server. If its the machine you login on to (like my secondary account) setup as per the local instructions. If not (like this account) set it up as per the remote instructions. Hope that helps you or someone. :) Steve Schow-Backstage Productions (sjs@netcom.com) wrote: : David, : Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I : believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). : ------------------------------------------------------------------ : Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you : sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... : (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? : 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear : ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- "Sigs are a waste of bandwidth." Christopher M Bibbs chrisbib@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 22:41:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09137; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:41:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21866; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21860; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:39 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10437; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure how netcom is configured either. I know there are plenty of proficient Pine users there though, just ask around... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 3 Jul 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > David, > > Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I > believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is > > your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > > > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > > > > > -steve > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > > > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > > > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > > > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 01:54:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12357; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:54:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12219; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:45:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12213; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:45:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKjLa-00000IC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffery sumler) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 08:21:46 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We Just to cast a different light on this topic, we ran an email service with pine 3.07 (and several other unix mailers) using two HP 735s, one an NFS server that exported /usr/mail and the other a client that mounted /usr/mail (on /usr/mail, naturally :) We had no problems like those Noel has described during the 9 month production run of the service. The key is indeed to make sure that rpc.lockd and rpc.statd (as well as rpc.mountd and portmap) are behaving as they should. You should double check /etc/netnfsrc against /etc/inetd.conf to make sure they agree on what services are being started by whom. We also modified pine slightly so that pine's lock files were created in a directory called /usr/mail/.locks - this prevented the problem of pine creating locks in the /tmp directory of both machines and thus made life a little easier for both users and sysadmins like myself ;) jeff sumler jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 03:35:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14158; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:35:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25670; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:26:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25664; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:26:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKkv1-00000BC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: VMS Pine and .pinerc Message-Id: <1994Jul4.115450.4385@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 4 Jul 94 11:54:50 GMT References: <2v762o$f2@nexus.uiowa.edu> > I've sucsessfully compiled VMS Pine and Pico on our VAX and am anxious to > try them out, but I've hit one snag. For some reason, our machine doesn't > support SMTP. I get "Error connecting to mail server" when I try to send. > > My domain-server vaiable is set to "cnsvax.uwec.edu" You mean SMTP-SERVER, right? Try TELNET/PORT=25 CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU and see whether it works ok or you get some error message there. > I cannoy seem to set the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL variable for the life of me. To what value do you try to set it? Please answer directly to me and we'll continue it off-line. __Yehavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 07:23:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18377; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16773; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16767; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKoXG-00000JC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 06:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.M.Roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch) Subject: Enhancement suggestion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 13:46:04 +0000 Message-Id: Pine is very good about status messages telling users what it's up to. One place where a message would be useful is when calling up an external editor. On slow systems it can take 10-20 seconds between hitting the key sequence and anything (apparently) happening. Just a "Invoking alternative editor - please wait" would do. Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 15:43:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28969; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:43:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06010; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:36:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06004; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:36:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwL3-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael E. Goldstein Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:48:20 EDT Message-Id: <94185.174820GOLDSTN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Subject: pine binary for sun 350? does anyone have pine compiled and running on a sun350 and would be willing to share it? mike goldstien goldstn@maine.maine.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 15:52:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29192; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:52:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23988; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:46:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23982; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:46:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwWw-00000DC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glewis@netaxs.com (Gerard Lewis) Subject: Pine FAQ? Date: 4 Jul 1994 22:11:24 GMT Message-Id: <2va1ec$c2s@netaxs.com> Please forgive this message if it's already been posted by many before me, but I am a new Pine user and would like a pointer to a FAQ or other complete documentation for Pine. Any help may be directed to my e-mail address, glewis@netaxs.com, so as not to clog this newsgroup. Many thanks. - Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 16:22:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29816; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06631; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:16:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06625; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:16:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwxz-00000BC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:31:04 -0700 Message-Id: <2va2j8$pms@cyberspace.com> References: I can second this. I tried to NFS mount /usr/mail and sendmail gagged. Definitely lock file problems. Jack David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck : rpc.lockd on the server... : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA : On 29 Jun 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: : > I have tried to NFS mount the /usr/mail directory on an HP9000 running : > hp-ux 9.0. The Pine tech notes imply that this shold work fairly well, : > however, whenever I try to run pine on the mounted file system, it : > simply hangs up forever, and has to be killed from another session. it : > then becomes a "zombie" process. : > : > The problem seems to have something to do with file locking. When pine : > hangs up, the mail file cannot be accessed even after the /usr/mail area : > is unmounted. I had to rename the file and copy over the contents before : > pine would open it again. I checked for lock files, and find only the : > .\usr\mail\username file. Deleting it has no effect. : > : > Any recommendations about how to get this to work will be : > greatly appreciated. : > : > -- : > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * : > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * : > : > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 17:18:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01217; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:18:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25361; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:11:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25355; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:11:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKxo7-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: 4 Jul 1994 23:46:45 GMT Message-Id: <2va716$p2v@giga.bga.com> Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 21:51:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05450; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10803; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:41:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10797; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:41:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL25A-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ([ Malboro || PC ] 8D) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Message-Id: References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 02:02:31 GMT James W Gourgoutis (skoop+@pitt.edu) wrote: : I think that this subject has come up before, but I didn't catch it then. : Sorry for the repetition, if that is the case. : : I was wondering if there was any way of getting around the default : function of saving a copy of outgoing mail to the folder "sent-mail". : Ideally, I'd like to be prompted at the end of each outgoing message, : asking if I would like to save the message or not. : : I find my sent-mail folder rapidly filling up, and I'd like some way of : managing it better. I can suggest a clumsy way to tackle your problem. You could delete your default sent-mail folder everytime you start PINE, like `alias pine "rm -f ~/mail/sent-mail;pine"'. Anybody know a better way round this? -- Malboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 23:31:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06906; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:31:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00355; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:22:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00349; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:22:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL3ZQ-00000JC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2va716$p2v@giga.bga.com> This has been proposed, but is not yet implemented. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Jul 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: > Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and > in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a > message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... > > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to > larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and > | cop a feel ... > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 00:19:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07618; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12638; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12632; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:07:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL4JZ-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nui@morakot.nectec.or.th (Kaiwan Hongladaromp) Subject: MIME.. Date: 5 Jul 1994 06:42:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vavcj$q4k@senior.nectec.or.th> HI... After reading amazing thing about MIME and knowing that pine is one of mail user agent that support MIME extension, I wonder if it support the whole set of MIME.. I've try to make up header intend to have Pine do anon-ftp for me but so far it fails me (or I fail pine?). It is probably my lack of correct understanding of MIME syntax that fail my experimental. Anyhow I want to make sure that pine is capable of what I've tried to prove it have. Oh FYI, the current version of pine is 3.87. Thanks in advance. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- __ __ _ / //_/__ _(_) _____ ____ / ,< / _ `/ / |/|/ / _ `/ _ \ /_/|_|\_,_/_/|__,__/\_,_/_//_/ __ __ __ __ / /_/ /__ ___ ___ _/ /__ ____/ /__ ________ __ _ ___ / __ / _ \/ _ \/ _ `/ / _ `/ _ / _ `/ __/ _ \/ ' \/ _ \ /_/ /_/\___/_//_/\_, /_/\_,_/\_,_/\_,_/_/ \___/_/_/_/ .__/ /___/ /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 02:14:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09895; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02622; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:04:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02616; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:04:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL64Q-00000DC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byronl@teleport.com (Byron Lunz) Subject: Can I mark a message NOT-read? Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:05:30 -0700 Message-Id: <2uv8ia$3s6@linda.teleport.com> Is there a way in Unix Pine to mark a message as not read, after you've actually read it? I usually read mail with Pine in a vt100 window, but occasionally I'd like to receive certain messages via Eudora. Once I read the message with Pine, however, Eudora won't recogize it as new mail and retrieve it. Thanks for any advice... -- Byron byronl@teleport.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 06:50:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15363; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:50:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17839; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:32:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17833; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:32:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLAIA-00000NC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de (Helmut Oertel) Subject: Process OUTGOING Mail Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <2vblu6$qv0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, i am a new user to pine - I now know how to filter incoming mail into different folders, but is this possible with outgoing mail too, so that when I send mail to a specific person (or group), it is also copied into a predefined folder automatically? WWW (O O) --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany E-mail: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de | NeXT-Mail: oertcaii@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de Compuserve: 100326,41 | WWW: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~oertelh Tel.: +49-30-304 33 52 | FAX : +49-30-305 90 89 -- WWW (O O) --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 07:22:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16002; Tue, 5 Jul 94 07:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06793; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:59:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06787; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:59:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLAjt-00000YC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:30:04 GMT Message-Id: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <2va2j8$pms@cyberspace.com> : David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We : : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for : : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck : : rpc.lockd on the server... : : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) Thanks for the information. You might want to change the wording in the documentation (pine technical notes), which implies that Pine works fairly well over NFS mounts is no other mail readers are in use. I think imap would be a better way for me to do this-- but I have not been able to figure out exactly how to set up rimap to eliminate the need for entering passwords. Assuming my hosts and hosts.equiv'ed, and I have a link between imapd and /etc/rimapd, what else do I need to do? I pointed inetd.conf at the link, but it still asked for passwords. Thanks again for your help. Noel -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 08:37:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18666; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:37:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19702; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:22:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19694; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:22:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLC1g-00000MC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewn@uiuc.edu Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 5 Jul 1994 15:03:08 GMT Message-Id: <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> pcfong@hkusub ([ Malboro || PC ] 8D) writes: >James W Gourgoutis (skoop+@pitt.edu) wrote: >: I was wondering if there was any way of getting around the default >: function of saving a copy of outgoing mail to the folder "sent-mail". >: Ideally, I'd like to be prompted at the end of each outgoing message, >: asking if I would like to save the message or not. > > I can suggest a clumsy way to tackle your problem. You could >delete your default sent-mail folder everytime you start PINE, like >`alias pine "rm -f ~/mail/sent-mail;pine"'. Anybody know a better way >round this? The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the folder to save to. Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. The original suggestion would work a little nicer if you remove the folder after you run pine. That way it will be deleted as very soon after created, and will never be seen. -- Matt Hewn -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 08:56:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19528; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08871; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:41:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08865; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:41:20 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA29259; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:41:13 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: pine and name server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a pine question. What other type of question would I mail to this list? When our primary name server goes down it takes pine such a long time to execute. Why is this, and is there a way to correct it? We have ping using an smtp server, but even though the server name is in our /etc/hosts file and if we usent e ip address it still takes pine much to long to load if our name server is down. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 09:46:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22122; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:46:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10203; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:28:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10197; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:28:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLD2g-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> If you manually invoke rimapd (e.g. "rsh servername /etc/rimapd") the problem is often readily apparent... Using rimap, inetd is completely out of the picture, so the inetd.conf setting does not matter in that case. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > : David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > : : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We > : : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for > : : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck > : : rpc.lockd on the server... > : : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > : : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > Thanks for the information. You might want to change the wording in the > documentation (pine technical notes), which implies that Pine works > fairly well over NFS mounts is no other mail readers are in use. > > I think imap would be a better way for me to do this-- but I have not > been able to figure out exactly how to set up rimap to eliminate the need > for entering passwords. > > Assuming my hosts and hosts.equiv'ed, and I have a link between imapd and > /etc/rimapd, what else do I need to do? I pointed inetd.conf at the link, > but it still asked for passwords. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Noel > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:07:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22890; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:07:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21988; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:52:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21980; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:52:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDPx-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIME.. Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vavcj$q4k@senior.nectec.or.th> Pine supports MIME at something better than the "minimal conformance" level, but not everything in the protocol is fully supported. If you are going to be generating your own MIME, I would suggest studying appendices A and B of RFC1521.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Kaiwan Hongladaromp wrote: > > HI... > > After reading amazing thing about MIME and knowing that pine is one > of mail user agent that support MIME extension, I wonder if it support > the whole set of MIME.. > > I've try to make up header intend to have Pine do anon-ftp for me but > so far it fails me (or I fail pine?). It is probably my lack of correct > understanding of MIME syntax that fail my experimental. Anyhow I want > to make sure that pine is capable of what I've tried to prove it have. > Oh FYI, the current version of pine is 3.87. > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > __ __ _ > / //_/__ _(_) _____ ____ > / ,< / _ `/ / |/|/ / _ `/ _ \ > /_/|_|\_,_/_/|__,__/\_,_/_//_/ > __ __ __ __ > / /_/ /__ ___ ___ _/ /__ ____/ /__ ________ __ _ ___ > / __ / _ \/ _ \/ _ `/ / _ `/ _ / _ `/ __/ _ \/ ' \/ _ \ > /_/ /_/\___/_//_/\_, /_/\_,_/\_,_/\_,_/_/ \___/_/_/_/ .__/ > /___/ /_/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:07:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22921; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:07:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22038; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22030; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:54:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDSE-00000DC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Process OUTGOING Mail Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vblu6$qv0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> This will be available in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Helmut Oertel wrote: > Hi, > > i am a new user to pine - I now know how to filter incoming mail into different > folders, but is this possible with outgoing mail too, so that when I send > mail to a specific person (or group), it is also copied into a predefined > folder automatically? > > WWW > (O O) > --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- > Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany > E-mail: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de | NeXT-Mail: oertcaii@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de > Compuserve: 100326,41 | WWW: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~oertelh > Tel.: +49-30-304 33 52 | FAX : +49-30-305 90 89 > > -- > WWW > (O O) > --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- > Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:11:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23075; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:11:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22024; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22018; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:53:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDQ0-00000BC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Can I mark a message NOT-read? Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uv8ia$3s6@linda.teleport.com> There will be in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Jun 1994, Byron Lunz wrote: > Is there a way in Unix Pine to mark a message as not read, after you've > actually read it? I usually read mail with Pine in a vt100 window, but > occasionally I'd like to receive certain messages via Eudora. Once I > read the message with Pine, however, Eudora won't recogize it as new mail > and retrieve it. > > Thanks for any advice... > -- > Byron byronl@teleport.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 12:09:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28538; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:09:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24734; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:55:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24728; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:55:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLFIW-00000BC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: pine and name server Date: 5 Jul 1994 10:37:54 -0700 Message-Id: <2vc5pi$2fr@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> In article , Richard C. Gaine wrote: : : When our primary name server goes down it takes pine such a long :time to execute. Why is this, and is there a way to correct it? It looks like pine at startup tries to get the hostname of the machine that it is executing on (i.e., calls gethostname() on a SunOS machine, calls systeminfo(SI_HOSTNAME) on a Solaris 2.3 machine). If your local system is configured to look at the DNS instead of /etc/hosts for the hostname info and you have multiple nameservers specified in your /etc/resolv.conf, then if the first nameserver listed doesn't respond, the resolver routines will wait a while before trying the next nameserver listed. So what you're probably seeing at startup is the lag time before the resolver routines give up on the first nameserver and move on to the next one. You could avoid that by having your resolver routines look in /etc/hosts before consulting the DNS (though that's a debatable strategy in general). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 13:08:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02411; Tue, 5 Jul 94 13:08:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25849; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atc.boeing.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25843; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:31 -0700 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA04191; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:51:25 -0700 Received: from plato.hv.boeing.com by splinter.boeing.com with SMTP (16.6/16.2) id AA28444; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:40 -0700 Received: by plato.hv.boeing.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19338; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:37:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:37:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gary W. Marine" Subject: Pine on Intergraph running Sys5r3 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for someone who has compiled Pine on an Intergraph system running sVr3, or another sVr3 system. Please respond to marineg@hsvaic.hv.boeing.com Thanks, Gary Marine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 14:57:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07094; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:57:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17762; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:46:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17756; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:46:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 17:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940705175135.25818680@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" SIGNOFF PINE-INFO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 16:51:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11709; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:51:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01503; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01497; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:39:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLJkW-00000JC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is now on the todo list. I don't know if it will be in 3.90 yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > Pine is very good about status messages telling users what it's up to. > One place where a message would be useful is when calling up an external > editor. On slow systems it can take 10-20 seconds between hitting the key > sequence and anything (apparently) happening. Just a "Invoking > alternative editor - please wait" would do. > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 19:40:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16805; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23436; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:26:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23430; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:26:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLMN3-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Rich Headers Date: 5 Jul 1994 22:05:14 -0400 Message-Id: <2vd3gq$h8d@panix2.panix.com> I know that typing ^R gives you Pine's "rich" header. Is there a way to get Pine to always display the rich header by default? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 20:31:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17638; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05212; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:20:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05206; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:19:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLNFt-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: physmfr@phys.canterbury.ac.nz (Mike Reid ) Subject: Scrolling, not redrawing, in pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 02:56:54 GMT Message-Id: <2vd6hm$ofv@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> We recently upgraded to Pine 3.89 and Pico 2.3, on Sun (Solaris). I now have problems on a slow modem line, because I can't figure out how to persuade pico to scroll the screen, rather than redrawing all the characters. This is VERY slow and tedious at 2400 baud. With the old version, I could do an: stty 2400 and pico would realize that the line was slow, and scroll. That no longer appears to work. Any suggestions? Mike -- Dr. Michael F. Reid, M.Reid@phys.canterbury.ac.nz Physics and Astronomy, University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand. Phone: + 64 3 364 2548 Fax: + 64 3 364 2469 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 20:56:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18068; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:56:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05611; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05605; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:45:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLNaX-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josephl@clark.net (Joseph A. Liu) Subject: FTP sites for Pine / Pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 03:22:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vd81j$cul@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Plesae tell me where the ftp sites for PC Pine / Pico software is. I thank you all very much. Joe -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Liu Capital Associates, Inc., Hunt Valley, MD USA josephl@clark.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 21:42:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18869; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:42:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25196; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:32:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from csl3su39.cs.ust.hk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25178; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:32:20 -0700 Received: by csl3su39.cs.ust.hk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15491; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:31:51 HKT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:31:51 +0800 (HKT) From: Yeung Chee Wai Subject: Re: FTP sites for Pine / Pico To: "Joseph A. Liu" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Yeung Chee Wai In-Reply-To: <2vd81j$cul@clarknet.clark.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Joseph A. Liu wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:22:27 +0800 > From: Joseph A. Liu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: FTP sites for Pine / Pico > > Plesae tell me where the ftp sites for PC Pine / Pico software is. > > I thank you all very much. > > Joe > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joseph Liu Capital Associates, Inc., Hunt Valley, MD USA josephl@clark.net > > I believe you can always find pine under ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail. This is the primary distribution site of pine. Chee Wai ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- _--_|\ Yeung Chee Wai Technician / \ Department of Computer Science Room: 4203 \_.--._* Hong Kong University of Science and Phone: +85 2 358 7005 v Technology Fax: +85 2 358 1477 Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong Email: cheewai@cs.ust.hk ^^^^^^^^ cheewai@HK.Super.NET This is Australia, Not HK :-) "How to draw a dotted-line?" "Ans: Pick up a pencil!" "COBOL is just a bug with syntax." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 00:04:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21481; Wed, 6 Jul 94 00:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08162; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:54:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08156; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:54:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLQcM-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mattm@netcom.com (Matthew Mannhardt) Subject: Help; Errors on Solaris 2.3 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 06:22:37 GMT Compiles with warnings using gcc (i.e) ... > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > adrbklib.c: In function `adrbk_open': > adrbklib.c:360: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > adrbklib.c:376: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > adrbklib.c: In function `sort_addr_list': > adrbklib.c:469: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/local/bin/gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c args.c -o args.o > In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:41, > from headers.h:78, > from args.c:59: > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' ... and executable produces annoying errors; from .pine-debug1: ... > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date ... Anybody else out there running "pine" on Solaris 2.3? -Matt Mannhardt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 03:27:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25660; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00161; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:15:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00155; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:15:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLTgP-00000BC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 02:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Martinez Subject: Add field to Pine header? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:50:17 GMT Is there any way to add a " Reply to: " field to Pine when composing e-mail? Have I overlooked something obvious? Those of us who work behind firewalls could find this extremely useful! Thanks, Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the Julie Kangas Fan Club Work: 1 800 50 SATAN Home: 1 510 676 1111 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 05:08:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29095; Wed, 6 Jul 94 05:08:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12669; Wed, 6 Jul 94 04:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cc.nsysu.edu.tw by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12655; Wed, 6 Jul 94 04:58:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (hsu@localhost) by cc.nsysu.edu.tw (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA08443; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:54:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:53:19 +0800 (CST) From: Hsu Li-Cheng Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ======================================================================== Li-Cheng Hsu | Network Division | Computer Center | E-mail : hsu@cc.nsysu.edu.tw National Sun Yat-Sen University | Phone: 886-7-5316171 ext 2866 Kaohsiung,Taiwan,Rep. of China | Fax : 886-7-5614280 ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 07:13:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02675; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:13:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03819; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:00:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PACS01.SUNBELT.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03813; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:00:32 -0700 Received: from ptech.com (NGATE.PTECH.COM) by SUNBELT.NET (PMDF V4.3-6 #4800) id <01HEDRJWUZVK001OKB@SUNBELT.NET>; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:00:23 EST Received: by ptech.com; id AA26554; Wed, 6 Jul 94 09:58:47 EDT Received: by sierra.ptech.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01536; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:02:33 +0500 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 10:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Jones Subject: hard code reply-to To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: jnb@ptech.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 445 Is there any way to hard-code the reply-to field? I'm using Unix Pine 3.89. Thanks in advance for you help. -Jason -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Jason Jones - jej@ptech.com _/ _/ _/ _/ Systems Engineer _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ Piedmont Technology Group, Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ 830 Tyvola Rd - Charlotte NC - 28217 _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ phone 704.523.2410 x130 fax 704.523.7764 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 07:28:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03141; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:28:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14985; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14979; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLXSV-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 06:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgmoore@crash.cts.com (Bryan Moore) Subject: Re: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:12:19 GMT Message-Id: References: In David L Miller writes: >On 4 Jul 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: >> Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and >> in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a >> message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... >This has been proposed, but is not yet implemented. I sometimes forward the message to myself which does the trick, but for only pruning a line or two the extra header it adds on is not worth it, so I only do it for much longer messages I want to keep pieces of. Regards, Bryan Moore bgmoore@cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 11:02:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14908; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:02:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09437; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:47:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09431; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:47:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLajL-00000NC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: As stated previously, this will be available in Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Kevin Martinez wrote: > Is there any way to add a " Reply to: " field to Pine when composing > e-mail? Have I overlooked something obvious? > > Those of us who work behind firewalls could find this extremely useful! > > Thanks, > > Kevin Martinez > lps@rahul.net > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the Julie Kangas Fan Club > Work: 1 800 50 SATAN Home: 1 510 676 1111 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Jason Jones wrote: > Is there any way to hard-code the reply-to field? I'm using Unix Pine > 3.89. Thanks in advance for you help. > > -Jason > > -- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Jason Jones - jej@ptech.com > _/ _/ _/ _/ Systems Engineer > _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ Piedmont Technology Group, Inc. > _/ _/ _/ _/ 830 Tyvola Rd - Charlotte NC - 28217 > _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ phone 704.523.2410 x130 fax 704.523.7764 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 11:26:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16411; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10236; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:17:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10230; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:16:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLazf-00000QC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dudek@spot.Colorado.EDU (Heidi Dudek) Subject: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:52:39 GMT We have recently moved about 2000 users from VMS to Unix, and they are using pine. They would like to be able to maintain a personal addressbook as well as a group address book for a group of users. It would be great if there was some way to specify 2 files for the addressbook in the .pinerc. We don't care too much about editing these files (i.e. what happens when you type A to get to the addressbook?) but it would be best if A would allow the user to edit their personal addressbook (.addressbook) and then the person keeping the group file could just edit it outside of pine. Is this a possibility? -- Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU Computing & Network Services University of Colorado at Boulder -- Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU Computing & Network Services 492-0764 University of Colorado at Boulder From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 13:09:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20986; Wed, 6 Jul 94 13:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12255; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:55:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12249; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:55:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLcGZ-00001HC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Heidi Dudek wrote: > We have recently moved about 2000 users from VMS to Unix, and they are > using pine. They would like to be able to maintain a personal addressbook > as well as a group address book for a group of users. It would be great > if there was some way to specify 2 files for the addressbook in the .pinerc. > We don't care too much about editing these files (i.e. what happens when > you type A to get to the addressbook?) but it would be best if A would allow > the user to edit their personal addressbook (.addressbook) and then the > person keeping the group file could just edit it outside of pine. > > Is this a possibility? > > -- > Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU > Computing & Network Services > University of Colorado at Boulder > -- > Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU > Computing & Network Services 492-0764 > University of Colorado at Boulder > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 14:19:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23640; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24375; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24369; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:09:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLd7V-00001oC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu (Caitrin Lynch) Subject: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:35:49 Message-Id: How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). Thanks, Nick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:32:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26645; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:32:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25986; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25980; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLf3L-00000HC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: digior+@pitt.edu (Carl J Digiorgio) Subject: FTP site for Pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 21:11:59 GMT Message-Id: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and I am sick of that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can install it. If anybody can tell me where I can find it, please let me know. Thank you. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:32:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26680; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:32:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15708; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:19:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15702; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:19:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLeyF-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: 6 Jul 1994 21:08:42 GMT Message-Id: <2vf6gq$aet@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: Caitrin Lynch (lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote: : How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). The ipop3d server that somes with the imap stuff availalable on the ftp archive ftp.cac.washington.edu allows pop clients to access imap services, I believe. If I'm right, you could do something like set your pop server to point to the ipop3d server, and then use the proper imap inbox name for the address portion. The man page says: IPOP2d and IPOP3d are servers which support the POP2 and POP3 remote mail access protocols respectively. IPOP2d and IPOP3d can also be used by POP2 and POP3 clients to access mailboxes on IMAP servers by specifying a login user name in the form : e.g., SERVER.WASHINGTON.EDU:SMITH. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:52:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27364; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:52:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16214; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:40:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16208; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:40:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLfKm-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Message-Id: <2vfa0i$3l9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: 6 Jul 94 22:08:18 GMT References: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> pine.cac.washington.edu However, I think that pico is included with pine. Look for DLM's posts and send email to his address asking him if you can get it separately. -- `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' Michael W. Erdely /| /| | | / |~~~ Phi Sigma Kappa / | / | | |< |- erdely@wam.umd.edu / |/ | | | \ |___ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 16:37:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29713; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:37:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27348; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27342; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:18:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLfvP-00000PC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Pine and Pico are available from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Pico sources are included in the Pine source distribution (mail/pine.tar.Z) or there are a few pre-compiled executables in the mail/unix-bin directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Jul 1994, Carl J Digiorgio wrote: > The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and I am sick of > that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can install it. If anybody can > tell me where I can find it, please let me know. Thank you. > > -- > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well > / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity > /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 16:55:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00384; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:55:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27998; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:44:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27992; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:44:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLgHy-00000gC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hribnak@nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Subject: Pine and Metamail Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:22:45 GMT How does one go about installing Metamail with PINE? Jim Jim Hribnak Nucleus Information Service VP Operations, Atomic Data Communications 55 Lines (403)531-9353 (2400) ----------------------------------------- (403)531-9366 (19200) hribnak@nucleus.com (403)249-9009 (voice) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 18:13:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03821; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:13:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29650; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:03:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29644; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:03:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLhYy-00000gC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colin@Malcolm.camosun.bc.ca (Colin Fletcher) Subject: Pine Manual? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:35:41 GMT I am looking for a pine 3.89 manual, Can someone please point me to the ftp site... I tried ftp.cac.washington.edu, but with no luck... thanx in advance, - - Colin Fletcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEK CODE: GCS d-- -p+ c++++ l+++ u++ eK-12 m+ s+/- !n h--- f+ g+++ w+++ t- r-- y+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 18:27:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04101; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:27:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29868; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29862; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:32 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04452; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 18:17:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Noel Hunter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes In-Reply-To: <2vf6gq$aet@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Noel, I'm guessing that Caitrin was interested in making *saved message* folders accessible to PC-Eudora, rather than simply sharing a common INBOX. As far as I know, PC-Eudora uses the Bky Unix "mbox" format, which is also what Pine uses by default. So it *should* be possible to transfer Unix Pine folders to your PC and access them as local folders in Eudora... but I haven't tried this myself. I'm guessing you want to transfer in "ascii" mode in order to get newline conversion. POP3 does not support access to arbitrary remote folders, only the inbox, so using the ipop3d as a "POP-to-IMAP gateway" will probably not help in this case. For those who are interested in co-existence of IMAP and POP clients with respect to INBOX access: 1. You can run a POP server on the same machine acting as your IMAP server. The ipop3d Noel mentions would be a good choice, since it uses the same locking discipline as imapd. (I believe the CMU IMAP server also has a companion POP server available.) 2. If both POP and IMAP servers exist, but are on different machines, you could replace the existing POP server with ipop3d, which is capable of operating as a gateway to a different IMAP server for POP clients, as well as providing normal POP access to INBOXes stored on the same machine. 3. If you can't touch the existing servers, but have root access to yet another Unix box, you could run ipop3d on it, and have it serve purely as a POP gateway to an existing IMAP server. Note that the gateway works best if you don't leave mail on the server. If you tell Eudora to leave mail on the server, it will keep fetching the same messages over and over when you check for new mail. This is probably fixable, but we haven't had time to track down the incompatibilty. -teg On 6 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > Caitrin Lynch (lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote: > > : How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). > > The ipop3d server that somes with the imap stuff availalable on the ftp > archive ftp.cac.washington.edu allows pop clients to access imap services, > I believe. If I'm right, you could do something like set your pop > server to point to the ipop3d server, and then use the proper imap inbox > name for the address portion. The man page says: > > IPOP2d and IPOP3d are servers which support the POP2 and POP3 remote > mail access protocols respectively. IPOP2d and IPOP3d can also be > used by POP2 and POP3 clients to access mailboxes on IMAP servers by > specifying a login user name in the form : e.g., > SERVER.WASHINGTON.EDU:SMITH. > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 19:01:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04921; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20418; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20412; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:51:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLiJi-00000oC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ochand70@ursa.calvin.edu (Omi Chandiramani) Subject: Incoming message: date munged Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 01:18:11 GMT I was reading through/deleting a backlog of mail since I have been on holiday for a while. So I had finally reached yesterdays mail when pine beeped "New mail! from blah hlah...." So I wento back into the index from the view message screen and surprsingly the message seemed like it had arrived on June 5 instead of June 6 when it actually came in. The header follows.. Return-Path: Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15557; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:49:51 EDT Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA12723; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:49:52 -0400 From: JoeSmokin@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "JoeSmokin" Message-Id: <9407050808.tn348241@aol.com> To: ochand70@ursa.Calvin.EDU Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 08:08:04 EDT Subject: lets get together! The guys sent it to me a little past 8pm on June 6, no doubt about that. This isnt a big deal but just an FYI, just in case the developers would liek to know. Thanks for the great job.. -- Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 20:01:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06134; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:01:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21305; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21299; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:52:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940706225114.2581a151@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" SIGNOFF PINE-INFO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 20:32:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06640; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:32:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21729; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:21:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21723; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:21:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940706232032.2581a151@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" UNSUBSCRIBE YANG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:43:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09050; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03738; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03732; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlpj-00001GC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help; Errors on Solaris 2.3 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am pretty sure that the compiler warnings and the log messages are in no way related. It looks like you have some messages in your INBOX that have a date field that Pine does not understand. If you send a copy of the messages in question to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu we will try to determine why they are not being recognized. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Matthew Mannhardt wrote: > Compiles with warnings using gcc (i.e) > ... > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > > adrbklib.c: In function `adrbk_open': > > adrbklib.c:360: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > adrbklib.c:376: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > adrbklib.c: In function `sort_addr_list': > > adrbklib.c:469: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > /usr/local/bin/gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c args.c -o args.o > > In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:41, > > from headers.h:78, > > from args.c:59: > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > ... > > > > and executable produces annoying errors; from .pine-debug1: > ... > > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > ... > > Anybody else out there running "pine" on Solaris 2.3? > > -Matt Mannhardt > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:43:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09052; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03756; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03740; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlss-00001KC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Metamail Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will include a subset of metamail built-in.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > How does one go about installing Metamail with PINE? > > > Jim > > Jim Hribnak Nucleus Information Service > VP Operations, Atomic Data Communications 55 Lines (403)531-9353 (2400) > ----------------------------------------- (403)531-9366 (19200) > hribnak@nucleus.com (403)249-9009 (voice) > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:46:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09140; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:46:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23642; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23635; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlt0-00001LC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming message: date munged Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: According to the message headers, the message was written at a little past 8 AM, July 5, but did not leave America Online until almost 9 PM on July 6 (almost 37 hour delay!) Pine correctly displayed the date from the Date: header in the message... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Omi Chandiramani wrote: > I was reading through/deleting a backlog of mail since I have been on > holiday for a while. So I had finally reached yesterdays mail when > pine beeped "New mail! from blah hlah...." So I wento back into the > index from the view message screen and surprsingly the message seemed > like it had arrived on June 5 instead of June 6 when it actually came > in. The header follows.. > > Return-Path: > Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA15557; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:49:51 EDT > Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net > (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA12723; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:49:52 -0400 > From: JoeSmokin@aol.com > X-Mailer: America Online Mailer > Sender: "JoeSmokin" > Message-Id: <9407050808.tn348241@aol.com> > To: ochand70@ursa.Calvin.EDU > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 08:08:04 EDT > Subject: lets get together! > > The guys sent it to me a little past 8pm on June 6, no doubt about > that. > > This isnt a big deal but just an FYI, just in case the developers > would liek to know. > > Thanks for the great job.. > > -- > Omi Chandiramani > ochand70@calvin.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:46:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09169; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23621; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23607; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlsr-00001JC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vfa0i$3l9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> On 6 Jul 1994, Micos Express wrote: > However, I think that pico is included with pine. Look for DLM's posts > and send email to his address asking him if you can get it separately. > I prefer that this type of request be directed to comp.mail.pine or pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. I recieve _alot_ of mail andit is much easier for me if all of the Pine-related mail comes in on the pine lists... Thanks! --DLM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 08:13:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22015; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12211; Thu, 7 Jul 94 07:57:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12203; Thu, 7 Jul 94 07:57:54 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA01356; Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:43:29 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA03660; Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:57:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:57:52 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9407071457.AA03660@igor.music.qc.edu> To: digior+@pitt.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> (digior+@pitt.edu) Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico >>>>> "Carl" == Carl J Digiorgio writes: Carl> The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and Carl> I am sick of that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can Carl> install it. If anybody can tell me where I can find it, Carl> please let me know. Thank you. Hello Carl - try ftp.cac.washington.edu in /mail Pick up pine which includes pico. Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 08:42:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22910; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12793; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:27:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12787; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:27:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLv6l-00000DC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Problems with Compiling Pine on UNIXWARE (fwd) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 08:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 7 Jul 94 11:00:02 GMT From:uucp@br549.attmail.com To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with Compiling Pine on UNIXWARE Thanks for your response. Is there anyone you know of who could help me figure out the following error messages when I type "build sv4" ????? "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. Stop. ld libpico.a: can't find library libtermlib.a Stop. "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open size: bin/pico: cannot open UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. Stop. UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(basic.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(bind.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(composer.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(display.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(file.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(fileio.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(line.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(osdep.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(pico.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(random.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(region.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(search.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(spell.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(tinfo.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(window.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(word.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(attach.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(browse.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(buffer.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF Undefined first referenced symbol in file setupterm libpico.a(tinfo.o) tigetstr libpico.a(tinfo.o) UX:ld: ERROR: pico: fatal error: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pico Stop. UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 71: identifier redeclared: system UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open size: bin/pico: cannot open -- The pine program appears to be just the program I was looking for to manage my mail. If you know of an ELF 32-bit LSB executable 80386 Version 1 of Pine, that will work fine also .... Thanks!!! | | `. | .' `. .---. .' .~ ~. / O O \ -- -- -- ( ) -- -- -- \ `-' / ~. .~ .' ~---~ `. .' | `. | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 09:58:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27387; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:58:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14824; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:46:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14814; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:46:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:54:53 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico To: Pine Info Cc: "Robert A. Hayden" In-Reply-To: <9407071457.AA03660@igor.music.qc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this does show, though, that perhaps pico should be packaged and available seperately as well as with pine. I know a couple of years ago I wanted to install pico and I didn't know it came with pine, and I spend many hour searching archie logs looking for it before someone told me I was looking in the wrong place. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 12:09:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03453; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17874; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17868; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:52:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLyJ5-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) Subject: Blind carbon copy Date: 7 Jul 1994 13:57:17 -0400 Message-Id: <2vhflt$6dl@chopin.udel.edu> I was wondering how to create a bcc in composing a message. I have a huge mailing list (50+) that creates an enormous header for the readers. I was wondering if I could blind carbon copy the list. Any help is appreciated. Gwen -- ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 12:12:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03564; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:12:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17904; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17898; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:53:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLyBr-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:24:21 EDT Message-Id: <94188.132421ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Subject: Deleting attchmnt from header How do I remove the attchmnt line from the header? I've looked at the .pinerc file but I can't seem to find the appropriate setting. BTW I'm using version 3.89. Thanks, Rose rose@qucdn.queensu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 13:22:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07760; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:22:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19896; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19890; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:07:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLzAZ-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Deleting attchmnt from header Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <94188.132421ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Pine 3.89 does not have a way to hide the Attchmnt: line. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994 ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA wrote: > How do I remove the attchmnt line from the header? I've looked at the > .pinerc file but I can't seem to find the appropriate setting. BTW I'm > using version 3.89. > > > Thanks, > Rose > rose@qucdn.queensu.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:48:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13744; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:48:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13274; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from soda.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13268; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:38:02 -0700 Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id PAA21535; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:37:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Deleting attchmnt from header To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone may ask this before: How can I use ^ (control-6), block, on a Mac? Thanks!! =Henry= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:58:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14026; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:58:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13531; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13525; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM1pO-00000XC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Message-Id: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 12:32:41 BST Hi everybody, I am a new pine user and I am quite happy with it. However I have a little problem : pine does not signal new incoming mail, it doesn't flash the screen, doen't beep, doesn't do anything... Is there a way around this ? When using pine from my workstation (Sparc under solaris 2.3), I thought of using xbiff simultaneously (xbiff just opens a little window with an icon that signals when new mail arrives); xbiff worked fine, but then I noticed that pine didn't manage to detect the new mail when I tried to open the folder INBOX. To read it I have to exit pine and enter it again. So the combination pine+xbiff is not really good... Has anyone a solution for this problem ? Thanks in advance Adriano Barenco -- ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:59:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14099; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:59:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13523; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13517; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM1op-00000WC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: Pine and xbiff Message-Id: <1994Jul4.121729.230@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 12:17:29 BST Hi to everybody, I am a new pine user and find it quite convenient, however I have a little problem: when I get new mail, pine does not signal it to me in any way (beep flash or any other things). So I tried to run xbiff in parallel (xbiff gives you a little postbox icon in your workspace that has a flag up when you have mail), xbiff works fine, but then when I wnat to open the INBOX folder, I can't find the new mail. To read it I have to quit and enter pine again. Is there a way around this ? Either get something else than xbiff, or have pine signal new incoming mail... Any help appreciated, Adriano Barenco -- ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 16:39:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15527; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14455; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:28:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14445; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM2aH-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Date: 7 Jul 1994 15:10:44 -0700 Message-Id: <2vhuh4$ss@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> In article <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Adriano Barenco wrote: :Hi everybody, : :I am a new pine user and I am quite happy with it. However I have a little :problem : pine does not signal new incoming mail, it doesn't flash the screen, :doen't beep, doesn't do anything... Is there a way around this ? : :When using pine from my workstation (Sparc under solaris 2.3), I thought of :using xbiff simultaneously (xbiff just opens a little window with an icon that :signals when new mail arrives); xbiff worked fine, but then I noticed that pine :didn't manage to detect the new mail when I tried to open the folder INBOX. :To read it I have to exit pine and enter it again. So the combination pine+xbiff :is not really good... : :Has anyone a solution for this problem ? Worked fine for me on my Solaris 2.3 workstation -- pine should indeed inform you of new mail, but it only checks every couple of minutes. You can force it to check _now_ by typing Control-L. So when I noticed xbiff's flag going up, I would type Control-L in the xterm I was running pine in to force pine to look for the new mail. (Then I got tired of xbiff and decided I really could wait a couple of minutes to find out I had new mail.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 17:22:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18456; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25879; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25873; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:13:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:22:10 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Blind carbon copy To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vhflt$6dl@chopin.udel.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Jul 1994, Gwendolyn El Eckman wrote: > I was wondering how to create a bcc in composing a message. > I have a huge mailing list (50+) that creates an enormous header > for the readers. I was wondering if I could blind carbon copy > the list. Any help is appreciated. Yes. Press ^R to enable rich headers while in the header section and then use your list alias in the Bcc: line. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 18:26:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19841; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:26:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26875; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:13:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26869; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM4Fh-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing) Subject: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? Message-Id: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 17:23:42 PDT I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading the help? Thanks in advance for any advice. --- Steve Pershing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 19:08:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20953; Thu, 7 Jul 94 19:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27472; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:56:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27466; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:56:19 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA25882; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:56:42 +0800 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:56:41 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? To: Steve Pershing Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Steve Pershing wrote: > I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading > the help? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. That would seem to be the function of your terminal emulation software....not pine. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 20:30:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22663; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18703; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:23:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18697; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:23:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM6EH-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> The PC version of Pine 3.90 will be able to set colors. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Steve Pershing wrote: > I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading > the help? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > > > --- > Steve Pershing > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 20:43:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22960; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:43:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28932; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28926; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:24 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qM6dp-0005DlC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA05186; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:14:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: CTRL-^ To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Henry @(0-0) wrote: > Someone may ask this before: How can I use ^ (control-6), block, on a Mac? Try ESC-ESC-[SHFT-6] B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:05:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24458; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00195; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00189; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:53:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM7fo-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sstarr@phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov (Susan J. Starr) Subject: Pine on a Data General Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:17:47 GMT Has anyone successfully compiled Pine on a Data General? I tried building it for sys V,r4 but was not successful. It is looking for libraries that are not there. Any help would be appreciated. Sue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:13:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24607; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20345; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:04:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20339; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:04:06 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEFV9391J48ZQX07@asu.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:07:44 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113629>; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:03:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 22:03:38 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Environment variables in pine.conf on Solaris To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello! I am getting segmentation faults if I have something like the following in pine.conf (the system configuration file) on SunOS 5.3: inbox-path={$IMAPSERVER}inbox On my personal account, I am defining IMAPSERVER as follows: IMAPSERVER=ecstest.asu.edu export IMAPSERVER If I get rid of pine.conf and specify the path to the inbox (as above) in my .pinerc, I have no trouble. I can't take any more core dumps. Please advise. Thanks. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:36:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25017; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:36:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20761; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20747; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:29:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8E7-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: pine and xbiff : how to detect new incoming mail ? Message-Id: <1994Jul4.143430.4125@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 14:34:30 BST Hi to everybody, I'm a new pine user, and I'm quite happy with it. However, when I'm working on my station (SParc under solaris 2.3), I would like pine to signal any new incoming mail. I haven't found a way to have it do it, so I tried to use xbiff in parallel (xbiff is just a little program that opens a window on the desktop with an icon that signal when new mail's in). The problem is that, when running xbiff, I cannot access with pine the new mail, i.e. when I try to open the folder INBOX, pine does not find any new message. Does someone have a suggestion how to do that ? Thanks for your help Adriano Barenco ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:49:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25220; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:49:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00842; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:39:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00836; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:39:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8N2-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk Subject: pine and xbiff : how to detect new incoming mail ? Message-Id: <1994Jul4.143535.24327@oxvaxd> Date: 4 Jul 94 14:35:35 GMT Hi to everybody, I'm a new pine user, and I'm quite happy with it. However, when I'm working on my station (SParc under solaris 2.3), I would like pine to signal any new incoming mail. I haven't found a way to have it do it, so I tried to use xbiff in parallel (xbiff is just a little program that opens a window on the desktop with an icon that signal when new mail's in). The problem is that, when running xbiff, I cannot access with pine the new mail, i.e. when I try to open the folder INBOX, pine does not find any new message. Does someone have a suggestion how to do that ? Thanks for your help Adriano Barenco ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 23:13:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25676; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21280; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:04:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21274; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:04:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8lV-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cabirac@yorick.umd.edu (Daniel M. Cabirac) Subject: Cut and Paste:HELP! Date: 8 Jul 1994 05:35:01 GMT Message-Id: <2vioi5$kk3@umd5.umd.edu> Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 23:56:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26392; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:56:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01782; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:49:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01776; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:49:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM9So-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Cut and Paste:HELP! Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vioi5$kk3@umd5.umd.edu> No. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994, Daniel M. Cabirac wrote: > Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file > name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | > | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | > | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | > | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | > | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 00:09:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26695; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:09:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01962; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:00:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01955; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:00:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM9bY-00000DC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hom@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jerry Hom) Subject: default editor Date: 8 Jul 94 06:37:38 GMT Message-Id: I was just getting started on using Pine. I notice that the default editor is pico, but that there is an option for an alternate editor. However, is there any way to make the default editor be 'emacs'? Any info is appreciated. Jerry -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 08:44:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09125; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09548; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09541; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:30 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qMHsi-000AI9C; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA12902; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:15:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Pine on a Data General To: "Susan J. Starr" Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Susan J. Starr wrote: > Has anyone successfully compiled Pine on a Data General? I tried building > it for sys V,r4 but was not successful. It is looking for libraries > that are not there. Any help would be appreciated. Yes, we built it successfully on 5.4.2.1 and 5.4.3.0 MU01. That is the 3.89 version. If you can send me the error output, I can maybe help. It has been a while since I made the patches. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 08:47:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09308; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09557; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09549; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:33 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qMHsj-0001gDC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA13122; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:18:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Problem with MIME? (fwd) To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian P. Hampson To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with MIME? Hi, I'm using PINE3.89 and came across the following problem: ---------------------%<-c-u-t-h-e-r-e-----%<----------- >From uucp Thu Jul 7 12:29 PDT 1994 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA09203; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:29:53 -0700 Received: from wolfe by asl3; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:29 PDT Received: from rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de by wolfe.wimsey.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qLy9x-000AMwC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:26 PDT Received: from bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de by rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP id AA34370 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:26:39 +0200 Received: from BWL/MAILQUEUE by bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:26:42 GMT+2 Received: from MAILQUEUE by BWL (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:20:27 GMT+2 Received: from vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de by bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:20:07 GMT+2 Received: by vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.2.13 (01/13/94)/1.0um) id AA0134; Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:19:19 GMT Message-Id: <9407072019.AA0134@vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:17:13 From: "Volker Weber" To: "Brian Hampson" Reply-To: "Volker Weber" Subject: Sqed 0.95 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 Content-Length: 32309 Status: RO X-Status: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:17:13 From: "Volker Weber" To: "Brian Hampson" Reply-To: "Volker Weber" Subject: Sqed 0.95 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748" > THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT. Your mail reader does not support MIME. > You may not be able to read some parts of this message. --PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748 Content-ID: <131_97_1_773626634> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Sqed is coming your way. No it cannot distinguish between several users on the same system. ciao vowe ______________________________________________________________________________ volker weber vowe@bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de voice +49-172-408-2633 kahlertstrasse 32 compuserve 100120,557 tam/fax +49-6151-22618 64293 darmstadt fido 2:2464/111 data/fax +49-6151-25631 --PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748 Content-ID: <131_97_1_773626694> Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ ....etc -----------------------%<---e-n-d-------%<----------- Now the problem is that PINE didn't recognize the MIME part, and I ended up with 6 PART messages in base64 :( Any suggestions? Is this an incomplete MIME implimentation by somebody? IBM? you? I don't know? please help. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 09:42:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12686; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:42:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11292; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11286; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMIYz-00000BC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: default editor Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No, pico is very tightly coupled with Pine, especially for constructing the headers, so a complete replacement is not practical. Pine 3.90 will have an option to automatically invoke your alternate editor for the body of the message though. I suppose you could write a libpico.a replacement that invoked emacs...... ;) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994, Jerry Hom wrote: > I was just getting started on using Pine. I notice that the > default editor is pico, but that there is an option for an > alternate editor. However, is there any way to make the > default editor be 'emacs'? Any info is appreciated. > > > Jerry > -- > > > Jerry > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 10:14:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14175; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02755; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02749; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:02:28 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEGKCT89PS8ZQUIT@asu.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:06:12 MST Received: from icsrxp ([129.219.3.10]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113113>; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:01:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 10:03:29 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: Environment variables in pine.conf on Solaris In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT My problem was that I had generated the Solaris pine.conf by making a copy of the SunOS 4.1 pine.conf, which, in turn, was generated by making a copy of a .pinerc. David, thanks much for your reply. = ) -- "Halitosis is better than no breath at all." > On Fri, 8 Jul 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > > > Hello! I am getting segmentation faults if I have something like the > > following in pine.conf (the system configuration file) on SunOS 5.3: > > > > inbox-path={$IMAPSERVER}inbox > > > > On my personal account, I am defining IMAPSERVER as follows: > > > > IMAPSERVER=ecstest.asu.edu > > export IMAPSERVER > > > > If I get rid of pine.conf and specify the path to the inbox (as above) in > > my .pinerc, I have no trouble. > > > > I can't take any more core dumps. Please advise. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:08:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20669; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:08:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06581; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:55:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06575; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLlR-00000IC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: procmail - mail processing package v3.03 has been released Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:40:18 GMT Message-Id: <2vk6ii$8jc@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ It is currently available from comp.sources.misc, volume 43. There have been a considerable amount of changes since v2.91, for details look in the HISTORY file inside the package. ] The procmail mail processing program. (v3.03 1994/06/30) Can be used to create mail-servers, mailing lists, sort your incoming mail into separate folders/files (real convenient when subscribing to one or more mailing lists or for prioritising your mail), preprocess your mail, start any programs upon mail arrival (e.g. to generate different chimes on your workstation for different types of mail) or selectively forward certain incoming mail automatically to someone. Procmail can be used: - and installed by an unprivileged user (for himself only). - as a drop in replacement for the local delivery agent /bin/mail (with biff/comsat support). - as a general mailfilter for whole groups of messages (e.g. when called from within sendmail.cf rules). The accompanying formail program enables you to generate autoreplies, split up digests/mailboxes into the original messages, do some very simple header-munging/extraction, or force mail into mail-format (with leading From line). ---------------------- A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3) as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz <160KB as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z <224KB ---------------------- Feature summary for procmail: + It's less filling (i.e. small) + Very easy to install (rated PG6 :-) + Simple to maintain and configure because all you need is actually only ONE executable (procmail) and ONE configuration file (.procmailrc) + Is event driven (i.e. gets invoked automagically when mail arrives) + Does not use *any* temporary files + Uses standard egrep regular expressions + It poses a very low impact on your system's resources (it's 1.4 times faster than the average /bin/mail in user-cpu time) + Allows for very-easy-to-use yes-no decisions on where the mail should go (can take the size of the mail into consideration) + Also allows for neural-net-type weighted scoring of mails + Filters, delivers and forwards mail *reliably* + Provides a reliable hook (you might even say anchor :-) for any programs or shell scripts you may wish to start upon mail arrival + Performs heroically under even the worst conditions (file system full, out of swap space, process table full, file table full, missing support files, unavailable executables, denied permissions) and tries to deliver the mail somehow anyway + Absolutely undeliverable mail (after trying every trick in the book) will bounce back to the sender (or not, your choice) + Is one of the few mailers to perform reliable mailbox locking across NFS as well (DON'T use NFS mounted mailboxes WITHOUT installing procmail; you may lose valuable mail one day) + Supports four mailfolder standards: single file folders (standard and nonstandard VNIX format), directory folders that contain one file per message, or the similar MH directory folders (numbered files) + Variable assignment and substitution is an extremely complete subset of the standard /bin/sh syntax + Provides a mail log file, which logs all mail arrival, shows in summary whence it came, what it was about, where it went (what folder) and how long (in bytes) it was + Uses this log file to display a wide range of diagnostic and error messages (if something went wrong) + Does not impose *any* limits on line lengths, mail length (as long as memory permits), or the use of any character (any 8-bit character, including '\0' is allowed) in the mail + It has man pages (boy, does *it* have man pages) + Procmail can be used as a local delivery agent with comsat/biff support (*fully* downwards compatible with /bin/mail); in which case it can heal your system mailbox, if something messes up the permissions + Secure system mailbox handling (contrary to several well known /bin/mail implementations) + Provides for a controlled execution of programs and scripts from the aliases file (i.e. under defined user ids) + Allows you to painlessly shift the system mailboxes into the user's home directories + It runs on virtually all (old and future) operating systems which names start with a 'U' or end in an 'X' :-) (i.e. extremely portable code; POSIX, ANSI C and K&R conforming) + Is clock skew immune (e.g. in the case of NFS mounted mailboxes) + Can be used as a general mailfilter for whole groups of messages (e.g. when called from within sendmail.cf rules). + Works with (among others?) sendmail, smail, MMDF and mailsurr Feature summary for formail: + Can generate auto-reply headers + Can convert mail into standard mailbox format (so that you can process it with standard mail programs) + Can split up mailboxes into the individual messages + Can split up digests into the individual messages + Can split up saved articles into the individual articles + Can do simple header munging/extraction + Can extract messages from mailboxes + Can recognise duplicate messages Feature summary for lockfile: + Provides NFS-secure lockfiles to shell script programmers + Gives normal users the ability to lock their system mailbox, regardless of the permissions on the mail-spool directory ---------------------- -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Time is nature's way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:14:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20933; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:14:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06718; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06712; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:02:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLn4-00000JC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: SmartList - mailinglist package v3.03 has been released Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:42:22 GMT Message-Id: <2vk6me$8jt@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ It is currently available from comp.sources.misc volume43. ] The SmartList mailinglist management package. (v3.03 1994/06/30) The SmartList mailinglist package has been built on top of the procmail mail processing package. In order to install it you'll need the source of the procmail package as well. If you now have just the SmartList sources, get the procmail sources and unpack them on top of the SmartList source tree. ---------------------- A recent version of both packages can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest versions can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as (g)zipped tar files: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.gz as compressed tar files: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.Z ---------------------- Summary of what SmartList provides: + The overseeable management of an arbitrary number of mailinglists + Convenient and simple creation of new mailinglists + Convenient and simple removal of existing mailinglists + Fully automated subscription/unsubscription/help-request processing (no operator intervention needed) + Enough intelligence to overcome the ignorance of some subscribers (will direct subscribe and unsubscribe requests away from the regular list and automatically onto the -request address) + No hardwired format for (un)subscribe requests (i.e. new subscribers need not be educated, unsubscribing users do not need to remember any particular syntax) + *Intelligent* autoremoval of addresses from the list that cause too many bounces + Submissions can be limited to people on the accept list (which could be the current list of subscribers) + The fully automated subscription mechanism allows for a reject list of unwanted subscribers and a general address screening mechanism which allows you to control exactly who is allowed to subscribe + Optional implicit subscription upon first submission to the list + MIME-compliant auto-digest-generation (configurable per list) + Joint management of several mailinglists possible + Customisation per mailinglist or mailinglist group possible (simply remove or create the desired hardlinks) + A listmaintainer can be assigned per list; miscellaneous requests that couldn't be handled by the list automatically are then forwarded to his mail address (instead of being accumulated in a file) + Allows for remote maintenance of any mailinglist by a listmaintainer + Integrated archiving service + Integrated diagnostic aid to give hints to the maintainer about possible problems + Moderated mailinglists with an arbitrary number of moderators + Automatically eliminates duplicate submissions + You can set up a mailinglist to function as a standalone mail archive server + Extended MIME support (autorecognition of well known file formats) + The archive server can send arbitrarily long (even binary) files in MIME-multipart mails ---------------------- -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Time is nature's way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:26:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21374; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:26:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16303; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16297; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLzk-000005C; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kotla@CTC.COM (Srinivas Kotla) Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:57:49 GMT Message-Id: <2vk7jd$i1c@server1.ctc.com> References: In article , David L Miller writes: > > Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks. > Does this also include public address books that sys admins can maintain for a whole network? -- So long.... Srinivas Kotla. ______________________________ ________________________ _____________________ | __| _ |_ _| \ | |_ _| | |/ | |_ _| | | | Email: kotla@ctc.com |__ | ___|_||_| |\ \| |_||_| | <| | | || | |__| = | Concurrent Tech. Corp |____|___\_|____|_|_\___|____| |_|\_|___|_||_|____|_|_| Phone: (814) 269-2725 ----- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, BEGIN IT - Goethe -------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 15:39:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26342; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19276; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:31:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19266; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:31:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMNvY-00000NC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyl@ifcss.org (~{3BR]Az~}CHEN Yilong) Subject: UTF-7 support? sample utilities. Date: 8 Jul 1994 20:34:20 GMT Message-Id: <2vkd8c$2qo@ifcss.org> how about supporting UTF-7 (see my .sig for sample). some prototype conversion utilities esp between chinese BIG5,GB <-> UTF-7 is now available at ifcss.org:/software/unix/convert/utf7 nelson -- +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 15:54:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26896; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19687; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:47:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19681; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:47:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMOQ3-00000FC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: digior+@pitt.edu (Carl J Digiorgio) Subject: Installing Pine Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:05:38 GMT Message-Id: <2vkf32$1g2@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Do I need to have root access to successfully install Pine? I was able to compile it rather easily, but am having trouble getting it to work. The tech-notes reccommend placing the executables in either /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin On my system, those directories are write protected, and I am not able to install them there. When I put them (the executables) in my home directory, I am able to start up Pine, etc. and even send mail messages. However, when I try to test receiving mail, the received messages all go to the current mail program. Do I need to create a bin directory in my home directory and link it? If so, how do I go about doing so. Any help would be appreciated. I am also having a few problems when I do run it. For example, whenever I try to compose a message, after I type in the address, I normally hit enter to move to the next field which is CC. However, when I hit enter it asks me which file I want to attach. The only way for me to move to the next field is using the arrow keys. Also, as I'm typing the message using Pico...Every time I hit enter, it concatanates the current line to the line above it. I use Pine on another system and have never had these problems, so I assume I am installing wrong or something. Any ideas? Thank you. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 16:08:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27540; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20025; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:01:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19998; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:01:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMOc1-00000eC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: UTF-7 support? sample utilities. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vkd8c$2qo@ifcss.org> UTF-7 support is a possibility for the future, but it is going to take _alot_ of work to handle it right! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994 cyl@ifcss.ifcss.org wrote: > how about supporting UTF-7 (see my .sig for sample). > some prototype conversion utilities esp between chinese BIG5,GB <-> UTF-7 > is now available at ifcss.org:/software/unix/convert/utf7 > > nelson > -- > +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA > +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 > +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 17:46:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01624; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13354; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13348; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:36:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMQ7X-00000BC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: BUG: Forced exit when composing Date: 8 Jul 1994 01:20:48 GMT Message-Id: <2vi9lg$8md@news.cs.tulane.edu> I think this might have been said before, but I am not sure. I have been kicked out of PINE 3.89 numerous times while composing a message (I think it has usually been postponed messages), as soon as I receive mail. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening or at least retrieve my lost composition? _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that --- man. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 19:54:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04472; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24120; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24114; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMS9C-00000IC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Please help with rimpapd Date: 9 Jul 1994 02:12:50 GMT Message-Id: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> I have pine running with imapd, but would like to use the rimpad feature. I understand how to link from /etc/rimapd to imapd, but I do not understand how to use it. I have read the tech notes over and over, and it seems like I am missing something-- a basic understanding of how to use rsh to access tcp sockets. Can someone post or direct me to cookbook instructions for getting it to work? -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 04:23:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14194; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22533; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:17:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22527; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:17:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMa7O-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (Chris Zagar) Subject: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the paragraph. Any suggestions? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- /\ /\ Chris Zagar Maricopa Community Colleges / \ / \ Director, Instructional Technology 2411 West 14th Street / /\// /\ \ Bitnet: ZAGAR@MARICOPA Tempe, AZ 85281 \/ \/ \/ Internet: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (602) 731-8838 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 09:54:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19204; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:54:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05509; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:47:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05503; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:47:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMfK9-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.M.Roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch) Subject: Reliable PC <-> Mac floppy-free document tranfers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 16:16:18 +0000 Message-Id: We run a system that has both Macs and PC's connected by CAP and PC-NFS respectively to a Sun/Auspex NFS environment. PC users mount their Unix home directories via PC-NFS and use Pine on Unix for email. Mac users mount their Unix home directories via CAP and use Eudora on Mac for email. Mac -> PC document transfer seems much easier than PC -> Mac, mainly due to the way in which Mac resource forks are handled. Excel on Mac refuses to open PC Excel spreadsheets MIME mailed Pine->Eudora or saved via PC-NFS and read via CAP. Resediting the file to fix Type/Creator does not seem to fool Excel. Does anyone with a similar environment have a tried and tested regime for passing documents from PC <-> Mac via shared directories and/or MIME ? Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 11:45:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20943; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:45:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28239; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:33:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28233; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMgwX-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) Subject: Removing Headers Date: 9 Jul 1994 14:09:05 -0400 Message-Id: <2vmp41$k3v@chopin.udel.edu> Is there a way to save a file so that this: >From fool@chopin.udel.edu Wed Jun 29 10:35:43 1994 Received: (from cdonohue@localhost) by bach.udel.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA29204; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Donohue Subject: frustration To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looks like this Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Donohue To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Subject: frustration I am trying to condense things so that I can print out a series of letters in one file, and not page by page with the pine print command. thanks, Gwen -- ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 12:10:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21395; Sat, 9 Jul 94 12:10:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07207; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:57:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07201; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:57:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMhJ4-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Removing Headers Date: 9 Jul 1994 18:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vmqns$8ni@news.ysu.edu> References: <2vmp41$k3v@chopin.udel.edu> In a previous article, fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) says: >Is there a way to save a file so that this: > [full header] >looks like this > >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) >From: Christopher Donohue >To: Gwendolyn El Eckman >Subject: frustration > > [message] Yes. xport the file. It will be written into your home directory rather than your mail directory. Any special encodings will be converted to displayable characters. And you will get only these headers. You can also export multiple messages to the same file, appending each to the previous exported message. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 15:32:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25010; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:32:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01492; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01486; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMkVG-00000HC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kcivey@cpcug.digex.net (Keith Ivey) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 9 Jul 1994 21:46:53 GMT Message-Id: <2vn5sd$chd@news1.digex.net> References: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> <2v5i75$cme@raffles.technet.sg> The ANSI-like codes displayed during and after an ASCII upload from Procomm go away if I press control-L (redraw screen). It isn't necessary to press control-J (justify), so you don't need to worry about messing up formatting. --Keith Ivey Washington, DC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 16:01:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25489; Sat, 9 Jul 94 16:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10209; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10203; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMkvB-00000IC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kcivey@cpcug.digex.net (Keith Ivey) Subject: Setting line length? Date: 9 Jul 1994 22:13:59 GMT Message-Id: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> Is it possible to set the line length in Pine? I think 80-character lines are too long to read comfortably, and they often lead to ugly wrapping if quoted. (Of course, I have the same problem with Tin, which also uses Pico.) --Keith Ivey Washington, DC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 20:36:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29607; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05585; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:25:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05579; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMpCV-000006C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Goh) Subject: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: 9 Jul 1994 23:02:12 -0400 Message-Id: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> I've seen PC Pine. Any indication as to when Mac Pine will be available? Is it in alpha, beta testing? Or is it still vapor ware? TIA, --- Ian --- ps. if you need a tester, give me a holler! -- "Shop smart, shop S-MART." - Ash, "Army of Darkness" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 21:29:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00396; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:29:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14314; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14308; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:18:04 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA01958 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sun, 10 Jul 1994 00:17:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 0:17:43 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (Chris Zagar) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 In-Reply-To: Your message of 8 Jul 1994 21:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: > I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are > running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except > when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. > For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it > is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return > either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the > paragraph. > > Any suggestions? We had to rewrite the code to move functions away from control-J. Some sites do not have this problem, including the home of pine in Washington, but some do. I would sincerely request a "no control j" compile option in some forthcoming version. I'll try to package the changes as a patch for 3.90; right now the various changes we did are intermingled, so I don't have this part readily available. You may note that literally control key and J ends up as a control-M character on the unix host. This is the problem. We could not find what does it. The version of telnet is the same one they have at Washington. Probably it is somewhere in the network. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 00:14:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02822; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:14:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08318; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08312; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMsZf-00000JC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 23:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 23:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> We do not have any plans for a Mac port at this time. One of the Pine Team members has done some preliminary investigation in his spare time, but he has set it aside for now... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Ian Goh wrote: > I've seen PC Pine. Any indication as to when Mac Pine will be > available? Is it in alpha, beta testing? Or is it still vapor ware? > > TIA, > > --- Ian --- > ps. if you need a tester, give me a holler! > > -- > > "Shop smart, shop S-MART." > - Ash, "Army of Darkness" > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 00:15:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02853; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16359; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16345; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMsYd-00000IC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Setting line length? Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 23:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> That feature has been frequently requested, but is not yet implemented... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Keith Ivey wrote: > Is it possible to set the line length in Pine? I think 80-character lines > are too long to read comfortably, and they often lead to ugly wrapping if > quoted. > > (Of course, I have the same problem with Tin, which also uses Pico.) > > --Keith Ivey > Washington, DC > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:02:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03794; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:02:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08990; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:51:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08984; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:51:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMtNo-00000XC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpirl@crl.com (Donald Pirl) Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1994 00:21:18 -0700 Message-Id: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> References: Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: : KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs : /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh : YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s : 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP : XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 : 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f : odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ Somehow I am sending messages like the above using Pine. It happens when I read in a file [^R] which I have uploaded from my DOS PC to the Unix workstation where I have my Internet account. After that at the end of every line there is ^M (which acts like _one_ character if I try to delete it. If I e-mail it others see it as above and forward it to me to show me. Could it be that the ^M toggles MIME? (I don't even know what MIME is :) .) The work-around I'm using to use uploaded files is to send them first to myself after including them. They come though fine, then I forward the message to the real recipient (first removing the header). Thanks for any help. Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:21:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04375; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:21:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09341; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09335; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:10:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMthL-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: 10 Jul 1994 07:47:23 GMT Message-Id: <2vo92b$l9s@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: You mat be able to termorarily work around the problem with an stty command to change the way ctrl-j and ctrl-m work. Here are some possibilities to try (with explanations from the stty man page): stty options options that might affect it: igncr (-igncr) Ignore (do not ignore) CR on input. icrnl (-icrnl) Map (do not map) CR to a new-line character on input. onlcr (-onlcr) Map (do not map) new-line character to a carriage-return/new-line character sequence on output. ocrnl (-ocrnl) Map (do not map) CR to new-line character on output. onlret (-onlret) On the terminal, a new-line character performs (does not perform) the CR function. typing stty -a should show the current setup. Good luck! -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:28:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04480; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:28:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17440; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17434; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:16:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMtmi-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feeseb@centre.edu (Ben T. Feese) Subject: Re: Public address books - RFI Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:07:45 GMT References: <2umtsd$9va@server1.ctc.com> Srinivas Kotla (kotla@CTC.COM) wrote: >"Hi all, >" Excuse me if this was discussed before. I was wondering if there is any scheme to maintain public address lists such that all the unix users at our site can look up local addresses? PC mail systems provide that feature so that people dont have to rem ember/know email addresses. >" Please post or send responses to kotla@ctc.com. Thanks. >"-- >"So long.... >"Srinivas Kotla. ========================================================= Such a feature would be great. What would be even greater would be to be able to access such a list, from within pine, remotely at other Internet domains. (sort of a "directory assistance" for Internet) ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 04:51:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08695; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12319; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12313; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:41:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMwxP-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: default editor Date: 10 Jul 1994 11:18:07 GMT Message-Id: <2voldf$iug@mozz.unh.edu> References: >No, pico is very tightly coupled with Pine, especially for constructing the >headers, so a complete replacement is not practical. Pine 3.90 will have an >option to automatically invoke your alternate editor for the body of the >message though. I think this questions has been asked before, and perhaps answered, but what unix editor can I invoke on my host machine or download to it that will more closely resemble WordStar? It has always been true that I have a tendency to use WordStar commands while writing email online, but now that the host has switched from clunky Eve to slicker Pico/Pine, I find that I now have a tendency to use Pine commands while in WordStar! Plus I can't stand those long reaches to ctrl-@. Ctrl f, b, d, and h don't post any problem, but ctrl-c is bad (it's page down in WordStar) as is cntrl-x (I don't remember what that does in WordStar, but my fingers do, and that is the whole problem--a touch typist doesn't know what the fingers are doing; they just go ahead and do it!). -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 09:37:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12916; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:37:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23740; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:20:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23734; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:20:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN1Ij-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 08:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> Some versions of Pine (e.g. 3.87) will trigger BASE64 encoding on a ^M. Pine 3.89 is much less sensitive in that regard.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Jul 1994, Donald Pirl wrote: > Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: > > : KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs > : /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh > : YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s > : 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP > : XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 > : 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f > : odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ > > Somehow I am sending messages like the above using Pine. It happens when > I read in a file [^R] which I have uploaded from my DOS PC to the Unix > workstation where I have my Internet account. After that at the end of > every line there is ^M (which acts like _one_ character if I try to delete > it. If I e-mail it others see it as above and forward it to me to show > me. > > Could it be that the ^M toggles MIME? (I don't even know what MIME is :) > .) The work-around I'm using to use uploaded files is to send them first > to myself after including them. They come though fine, then I forward the > message to the real recipient (first removing the header). > > Thanks for any help. > > Don > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 11:07:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14242; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:07:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17042; Sun, 10 Jul 94 10:56:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17036; Sun, 10 Jul 94 10:56:31 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA05231; Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:05:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:05:27 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: default editor To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2voldf$iug@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > I think this questions has been asked before, and perhaps answered, but > what unix editor can I invoke on my host machine or download to it that > will more closely resemble WordStar? Look for an editer called 'joe'. It is a very small, but full-featured editor that uses wordstar bindings. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 11:51:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14953; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17541; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:34:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17535; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:34:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN3LI-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) Subject: new version of pine? Date: 10 Jul 1994 11:02:47 -0700 Message-Id: <2vpd47$4m@ccnet.ccnet.com> So what is the newest version of pine for unix now? I heard they will be relesae a newer version this summer which allow you request a returen receipt. Anyone know when are they going to come out? and where to get it? Thank U! Please use Email to reply, thankx. abbe@ccnet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 13:06:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16444; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:06:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26407; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:49:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26393; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN4XH-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edgar@zeitgeist.net (Edgar Nielsen) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Message-Id: References: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 19:21:58 GMT Chris Zagar (zagar@names.maricopa.edu) wrote: : I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are : running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except : when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. : For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it : is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return : either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the : paragraph. I saw this problem too. I was able to get rid of it by finagling with the NCSA telnet(2.6) settings. I think it was disabling the 'linemode' setting in one of the preferences, unfortunately I can't get to my mac with the right settings..... edgar nielsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 13:57:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17156; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19229; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:42:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19223; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:42:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN5RB-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:04:02 +0300 Message-Id: <2vpk7iINNouq@tahma.cs.hut.fi> References: In lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu (Caitrin Lynch) writes: >How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). I just transferred my Eudora (Mac) folders to my unix account, and put them in ~/mail. I used ftp where the ftp-client did the proper linefeed conversion. Pine read the files with no problems. I suppose you can make it happen the other way around too. -- Sami Tikka "Peace and Long Life." "Live Long and Prosper." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:07:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18125; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20124; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20118; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fd-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:04:41 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Ian - Mac Pine is still vapor. I hope that I may be able to return to working on it later this year. I'm currently involved with other tasks. As a temporary expedient, I recommend Mail Drop from Baylor as a very nice (if somewhat minimal) IMAP client for the Mac. To date, it's the only Mac program I've tested which is reliable (I've never had it crash) and uses IMAP in the remote access model. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:08:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18156; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:08:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20132; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20126; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fh-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:09:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Joe - The problem is not in NCSA Telnet, but rather in the telnetd on the UNIX host. A version of BSD telnetd of several years ago did not handle Telnet newlines correctly. This was fixed back in 1991, but a lot of vendors still are distributing the old broken version. A workaround for some systems (e.g. NeXT) is the command: stty -extproc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:09:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18187; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:09:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20116; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20102; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fc-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:02:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> Chris - Your problem with returns being transmogrified to line feeds is a known bug in old versions of the BSD Telnet daemon. The choice is to upgrade to a newer version of telnetd, or try the command stty -extproc as a possible workaround. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 17:18:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20119; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:18:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29661; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29655; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:07:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN8YC-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 16:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) Subject: Saving Messages on Tin Message-Id: <1994Jul10.224610.24295@emba.uvm.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:46:10 GMT I am not sure if this is the place for this question vut I thought I would ask it anyway.. When I use tin to read all my newsgroups I use Shift K to delete a message, but how do I save a message to stay in that message after reading it? After I read a message it delete's it when I exit that newsgroup.. Any ideas? -- --- Derek R. Fredrickson VOICE : (802) 656-2053 Treasurer, Student Government Association VOICE : (802) 656-7734 University of Vermont FAX : (802) 656-7719 Burlington, VT. USA E MAIL : Derek.Fredrickson@uvm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 18:29:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21252; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:29:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00601; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00595; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:13:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN9bQ-00000JC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feeseb@centre.edu (Ben T. Feese) Subject: Re: Cut and Paste:HELP! Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:14:57 GMT References: Cutting & pasting, even if in this kludgy way, would be a most welcome feature in pine. Is it technically too difficult to work into a future version? (I know....users are never satisfied!) ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 =============================== David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: >"No. >"|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >"|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >"University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >"4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >"On 8 Jul 1994, Daniel M. Cabirac wrote: >"> Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file >"> name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. >"> >"> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >"> | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | >"> | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | >"> | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | >"> | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | >"> | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | >"> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 19:08:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21878; Sun, 10 Jul 94 19:08:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01202; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:56:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01196; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:56:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNAKV-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@camco1.celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: pine3.89 on SCO ODT 3.0 -- without mmdf Date: 11 Jul 1994 01:33:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vq7ho$hkj@camco.celestial.com> I compiled pine3.89 this afternoon for SCO 3.0 without mmdf to use with smail-3.1.28 and sendmail. I used the imap-3.2 c-client that we've been using here for several months (copied the ANSI/c-client directory directly into the pine hierarchy). For pine itself, I started with the HP (hpp) files as I had done with pine-3.07, and there were very few modifications necessary to get this working. The main things I had to do was to change the load libraries in the makefile and a couple of minor defines in the osdep/os-sco.h file (vfork isn't available, and it needs sys/time.h). I also added a truncate() command to the os-sco.h. This seems to be working, but I haven't thoroughly tested all the options. It appears to work properly both with mailboxes on remote systems, and with local mailboxes. It did not work on a local file in mmdf format (but then I wasn't trying to make this work :-). The compiled source is in: ftp.celestial.com:/pub/sco-ports/unix/pine-3.89.tar.gz I would be interested in any feedback from anybody who tries this or other people who've got pine working on SCO without mmdf. It's been a while since I last looked at pine (version 3.07 to be specific). At that time, I also started with the HP files, and had to change a call to disk_space because of different block size reporting. I didn't find any references to this in the pine-3.89 distribution so this change wasn't made here. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: ...!thebes!camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street camco!bill Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 SPEED COSTS MONEY -- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 20:34:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23139; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:34:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24717; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:24:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24709; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:24:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNBez-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Printing full headers Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:03:55 -0400 Message-Id: <2vqcqr$55i@panix2.panix.com> I've added the command to .pinerc which enables the full header menu option, but even with the full header displayed the print command prints only the basic 4-line header. Is there a way for the Pine print command to include the full header? Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 21:34:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24076; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03134; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:24:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03128; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:24:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNCZh-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: traigle@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle) Subject: Re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: 11 Jul 94 03:54:52 GMT Message-Id: References: Mark Crispin writes: > As a temporary expedient, I recommend Mail Drop from Baylor as a very >nice (if somewhat minimal) IMAP client for the Mac. To date, it's the only >Mac program I've tested which is reliable (I've never had it crash) and uses >IMAP in the remote access model. I would recommend Mailstrom. The only problem that I have had is having PPP dial the modem when I start it up. This locks the computer up. I have to to go into the PPP control panel to make the connection first. Otherwise, I have had no crashes. (Of course, I've only used it minimally from home, too, so take it for what it's worth.) I've heard that version 2.0 is supposed to be right around the corner so enclosures will be possible. Having MacPine would be really nice though. I really dislike not having access to my remote folders unless I telnet to one of my machines and use Pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 23:53:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26568; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:53:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27397; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27391; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNEmA-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpirl@crl.com (Donald Pirl) Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:10:38 -0700 Message-Id: <2vqnou$pe7@crl3.crl.com> References: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Some versions of Pine (e.g. 3.87) will trigger BASE64 encoding on a ^M. Pine : 3.89 is much less sensitive in that regard.... Thanks. Looks like my hunch was right. Now to get my site to upgrade to 3.89... (I'm guessing we have 3.87) Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 00:37:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27296; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05514; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05508; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:24:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNFRc-00000DC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gclayman@phantom.com (Greg Clayman) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 11 Jul 1994 06:41:30 GMT Message-Id: <2vqpiq$46s@dockmaster.phantom.com> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> matthewn@uiuc.edu wrote: : The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the : folder to save to. : Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. The Pine on my system, by default, does *not* save outgoing mail into any sort of snet-mail floder. What is the command I have to add (or change) to .pinerc to get Pine to do this? Thanks. - Greg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 09:50:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11791; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:50:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14113; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14107; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:34:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNNza-00000DC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu Subject: How to spawn from Pine? Message-Id: <1994Jul11.115224.33461@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Date: 11 Jul 94 11:52:24 EDT Is there a way (other than using postpone (^O) and quitting), to interrupt Pine, drop to the operating system (spawn), do something there, and then exit back to Pine? Brian L. Hughes Computer Support Harvard Law School hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 10:52:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14757; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08760; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:37:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08751; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:37:33 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20304; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:40:10 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: ^S causes freeze-up To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have a concerned director of our network, who would like to know what using ^S while in compose does to cause the session to freeze (and I can verify that it does on everything from Mac to Sun to PC.) And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? Grateful as always, /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net ------------------------------------------------------ email:mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca - voice:(604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 11:53:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17495; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:53:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17190; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:36:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17184; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:36:02 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qNQEr-00039gC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:38 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up To: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Michael Showers" at Jul 11, 94 10:40:08 am Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1266 > > > We have a concerned director of our network, who would like to know what > using ^S while in compose does to cause the session to freeze (and I can > verify that it does on everything from Mac to Sun to PC.) > > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? > I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany for the terminal session which will treat any character from the terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. : #! /bin/sh STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings pine # execcute pine stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 ... so long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrranize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men. -- Voltarine de Cleyre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 13:37:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22513; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:37:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12628; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12620; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:09:00 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23458; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:11:40 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up To: Bill Campbell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Bill Campbell wrote: > > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? > > > I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany > for the terminal session which will treat any character from the > terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this > by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could > probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. > > : Thanks, but > #! /bin/sh > STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings > pine # execcute pine > stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. > Tried this, no joy, same freezing occurred. Perhaps it is a local problem with our Sun. /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net ------------------------------------------------------ email:mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca - voice:(604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 13:57:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23297; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:57:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13025; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:28:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chert.CS.ORST.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13019; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:28:03 -0700 Received: from python.CS.ORST.EDU by research.CS.ORST.EDU (4.1/1.30) id AA17425; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:27:33 PDT Message-Id: <9407112027.AA17425@research.CS.ORST.EDU> To: bill@celestial.com Cc: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers), pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up From: Jason Thorpe Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:27:31 PDT Try ^Q ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@cs.orst.edu 754-1554 OSU CS Support CSWest Room 12 737-5567 'These are my opinions and not necessarily those of anyone else.' NetBSD/Symmetry - Coming soon to a Sequent near you! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 14:43:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25380; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:43:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21207; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:32:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21201; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:32:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNSQf-00000yC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Please help with rimpapd Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Pine will automatically try to open an rsh connection before trying the IMAP port (143). If "rsh host /etc/rimapd" works, Pine should work. If not, the errors from rsh should give you a place to start looking. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > I have pine running with imapd, but would like to use the rimpad feature. > I understand how to link from /etc/rimapd to imapd, but I do not > understand how to use it. I have read the tech notes over and over, and > it seems like I am missing something-- a basic understanding of how to use > rsh to access tcp sockets. Can someone post or direct me to cookbook > instructions for getting it to work? > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 15:11:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26637; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:11:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15052; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:58:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15036; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNT7U-000013C; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) Subject: Uploading to PINE Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:45:15 GMT Message-Id: <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com> -- When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. If I attach the file, rather than just uploading it to be sent as e-mail, will the same thing still happen? Matthew From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 16:06:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28953; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23078; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23072; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNTtz-00001BC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) Subject: Signature File in Replies Message-Id: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:43:34 GMT Hello Again.. When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of the reply message? -- --- Derek R. Fredrickson VOICE : (802) 656-2053 Treasurer, Student Government Association VOICE : (802) 656-7734 University of Vermont FAX : (802) 656-7719 Burlington, VT. USA E MAIL : Derek.Fredrickson@uvm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 18:26:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04040; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:26:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26178; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26172; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:14:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNW84-00001KC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmitz@verdi.uni-duisburg.de (Peter Schmitz) Subject: Q: Pine crashes on AIX32 Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:29:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Hello world, Tonight I compiled Pine3.89 on our RS6000 running AIX3.2 Well, everything went fine, except that I got this message when I tried to compose a message: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. Abort process (core dumped) Hmmmm, great...any suggestions? Is the solution to this problem in a FAQ? Pine looks a lot better than Elm and I just wanted to give it a try, but it won't work. Thanks for any help. -- Peter GS d-- -p+ c++ !l u++ e+(*) m+(---) s++/- n- h-- f+ g+ w+ t+ r y+(*) -- "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato chip market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food market and is fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose" -- James Finke, Pres., C= Ltd.(1982) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 18:49:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04610; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:49:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19700; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:34:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19694; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:34:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNWUC-00001SC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: woodp@zilker.net (Phil Wood) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:17:55 -0500 Message-Id: <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: >When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at >the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of >the reply message? Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a 'brute force' technique that works: 1) Use Ctrl-K's to delete the .signature that PINE imports. 2) Scroll down to the bottom of your response. 3) Use Ctrl-R to import another .signature. It may not be pretty, but it works! -- | Phil Wood, Austin, TX, USA | "Illigitimus Non Carborundum" | | woodp@zilker.net | -Mark Twain | | woodp@sigscv1.scs.philips.com | | | 73717.3453@compuserve.com | http://www.zilker.net/~woodp | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 19:42:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05633; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:42:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27307; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:29:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27301; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:29:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNXIB-00001KC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 11 Jul 1994 22:09:35 -0400 Message-Id: <2vsu0v$6b5@panix2.panix.com> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vqpiq$46s@dockmaster.phantom.com> Greg Clayman (gclayman@phantom.com) wrote: : matthewn@uiuc.edu wrote: : : : The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the : : folder to save to. : : Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. : The Pine on my system, by default, does *not* save outgoing mail into any : sort of snet-mail floder. What is the command I have to add (or change) : to .pinerc to get Pine to do this? In your .pinerc file add the line: default-fcc=foldername where foldername is the name you want Pine to store your sent mail in. Then create a folder by that name in Pine. That should do it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 20:00:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06080; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:00:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20845; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:44:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20839; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:44:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNXWH-00001ZC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Message-Id: References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:05:56 GMT In article <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net>, Phil Wood wrote: >In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu >(Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: > >>When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at >>the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of >>the reply message? > >Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a >'brute force' technique that works: > >1) Use Ctrl-K's to delete the .signature that PINE imports. > >2) Scroll down to the bottom of your response. > >3) Use Ctrl-R to import another .signature. > >It may not be pretty, but it works! I used to do that, and then I looked through my .pinerc, and added the signature-at-bottom option. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 20:52:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07156; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28537; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28531; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNYWa-00001qC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up Message-Id: <1994Jul12.012934.8101@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:29:34 GMT References: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) publicly declared: >On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Bill Campbell wrote: > >> > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? >> > >> I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany >> for the terminal session which will treat any character from the >> terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this >> by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could >> probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. >> > >Thanks, but > >> #! /bin/sh >> STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings >> pine # execcute pine >> stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. >> > >Tried this, no joy, same freezing occurred. Perhaps it is a local problem >with our Sun. The original poster forgot a line, specifically the one to set ixany. Actually, you probably want to set -ixon instead. That will disable XON/XOFF flow control completely. (I needed to do that to fix a similar different problem here.) #! /bin/sh STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings stty -ixon # disable XON/XOFF flow control pine # execute pine stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. -- ------------------------------------------ "What if there were no beer?" Yep, that's about the only time I'd order a Zima, all right. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 22:05:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08607; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22818; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:55:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22812; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNZYo-00001xC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: 11 Jul 1994 21:14:41 -0700 Message-Id: <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> In article <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net>, Phil Wood wrote: :In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu :(Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: : :>When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at :>the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of :>the reply message? : :Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a :'brute force' technique that works: If I were the programmer who wrote the nice online help system that pine comes with I'd be tearing out handfuls of hair by now! Simply press '?' on the main menu, see the 'Configurable Features' entry, note that item 9 says 'Placement of Signature Files', page down to that item, and there is a lucid and complete explaination. Brute force has its place, but not here. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 22:54:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09618; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23520; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23514; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41:52 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (NBAdmin.ciao.trail.bc.ca) by ciao (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07924; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:44:17 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:44:15 PDT Message-Id: <9407120544.AA07924@ciao> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) From: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In your message you said... >Actually, you probably want to set -ixon instead. That will disable >XON/XOFF flow control completely. (I needed to do that to fix a >similar different problem here.) > >#! /bin/sh >STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings >stty -ixon # disable XON/XOFF flow control >pine # execute pine >stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. > and you were right. I thank you and CIAO! thanks you! /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net -------------------------------------------------- mshowers@CIAO.trail.bc.ca -- voice: (604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 23:08:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09854; Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:08:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00497; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00491; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNaap-00002CC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 22:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> On 11 Jul 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > > If I were the programmer who wrote the nice online help system that > pine comes with I'd be tearing out handfuls of hair by now! > I couldn't have said it any better myself! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 23:09:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09895; Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:09:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23759; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23745; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNaat-00002BC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Q: Pine crashes on AIX32 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Try the pre-compiled executables in the mail/unix-bin directory on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Some AIX 3.2 systems have a compiler that generates bogus code for a few of the code sequences in pine.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Jul 1994, Peter Schmitz wrote: > Hello world, > > Tonight I compiled Pine3.89 on our RS6000 running AIX3.2 > Well, everything went fine, except that I got this message > when I tried to compose a message: > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine. > Abort process (core dumped) > > Hmmmm, great...any suggestions? Is the solution to this problem > in a FAQ? Pine looks a lot better than Elm and I just wanted > to give it a try, but it won't work. > > Thanks for any help. > -- > Peter > GS d-- -p+ c++ !l u++ e+(*) m+(---) s++/- n- h-- f+ g+ w+ t+ r y+(*) > -- > > "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato chip > market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food market and is > fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose" > -- James Finke, Pres., C= Ltd.(1982) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 03:50:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15860; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:50:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04401; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:39:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04393; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:39:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNew8-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez048746@dale.ucdavis.edu () Subject: newsletter sent from PINE Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 09:57:28 GMT Hi, I have a question i hope someone may be able to help me with.I do a small newsletter for my rock band and would like to put it into my computer and send it out to people on our e-mailing list on a regular basis.Maybe this is a real stupid question but how do i go about doing that thru PINE? All super-simplified tips/answers would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 07:39:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21277; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:39:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07830; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:21:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07824; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:21:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNiQf-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: PINE is not searching Date: 12 Jul 1994 07:54:06 -0600 Message-Id: <2vu79u$1ue2@auriga.unm.edu> Hi all, PINE does not search in body of message to find what you are looking for. I view this as something very easy that should have been implemented in earlier versions of pine. Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 07:48:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21535; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:48:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01668; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:35:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01661; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:35:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNiZf-00000BC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: woodp@zilker.net (Phil Wood) Subject: cmsg cancel <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Control: cancel <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <2vu8as$nlv@oak.zilker.net> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> was cancelled from within trn. -- | Phil Wood, Austin, TX, USA | "Illigitimus Non Carborundum" | | woodp@zilker.net | -Mark Twain | | woodp@sigscv1.scs.philips.com | | | 73717.3453@compuserve.com | http://www.zilker.net/~woodp | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 08:39:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23658; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09069; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09063; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNjP3-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucacgcj@ucl.ac.uk (Gordon C Joly) Subject: Re: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Message-Id: <1994Jul12.143459.23805@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:34:59 GMT References: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> You have to look for a file that changes: e.g. with MH xbiff -file $HOME/.mail -update 30 Gordo -- Gordon Joly Phone +44 71 380 7934 FAX +44 71 387 1397 Email: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk ucacgcj@ucl.ac.uk CS, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT, UK Is Vic...? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:02:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05062; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:02:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08994; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08988; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:46:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNnSz-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Documentation for Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1994Jul12.180921.5113@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:09:21 GMT David Miller: We're are updating our local printed Pine documentation this summer, and it looks like the rough draft is due before Pine 3.90 will be released. It is possible to get any documentation before the product is ready for release? Thank you, Evelyn -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:19:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06222; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:19:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15489; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15483; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNnh8-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duffy@cais.cais.com (Duffy Men) Subject: How to attach a binary file???? Date: 12 Jul 1994 18:16:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. Thank you?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:26:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06485; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:26:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15877; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15871; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:38 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13972; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE is not searching In-Reply-To: <2vu79u$1ue2@auriga.unm.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jul 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > PINE does not search in body of message > to find what you are looking for. I view this > as something very easy that should have been > implemented in earlier versions of pine. > > Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? Yes, Pine 3.90's "Select" command will allow for full text searching, including via IMAP. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:29:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06608; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:29:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15952; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from auriga.unm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15938; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:11:32 -0700 Received: by auriga.unm.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0qNoAs-0001rrC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 14:11 MDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:11:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: PINE is not searching To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks. I'll be looking forward to that..... Farid On Tue, 12 Jul 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) > From: Terry Gray > To: Farid Hamjavar > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PINE is not searching > > > On 12 Jul 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > > PINE does not search in body of message > > to find what you are looking for. I view this > > as something very easy that should have been > > implemented in earlier versions of pine. > > > > Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? > > Yes, Pine 3.90's "Select" command will allow for full text searching, > including via IMAP. > > -teg > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:58:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07600; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:58:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10421; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10415; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNoQj-00000BC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: No DNS resolving with PC Pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 19:28:47 GMT We are using PC Pine 3.89 and Novell's LWP 4.12 TCP/IP stack. We are able to get it to work except for one problem. In the PINERC file if we specify a hostname for the inbox-path={hostname.utcc.utoronto.ca}inbox it doesn't work; instead we have to specify the IP address of our IMAP server, inbox-path=(hostip}inbox. We noted that in the INSTALL.TXT file it tells us to set the DOS variable EXCELAN=C:\NET (Unfortunately this choice of DOS variable name is not very illuminating. It took a bit of head scratching before someone realized that Excelan was the name of a company that Novell bought out many moons ago.) However, when we set EXCELAN things still didn't work. Finally, on a lark we put the hostname in C:\NET\HOST. When the EXCELAN DOS variable is now set, things finally work. So, I assume that the undocumented purpose of the EXCELAN variable is to let PC Pine find C:\NET\TCP\HOSTS so it can fish around in there instead of using the domain name resolver. Unfortunately, in a University with 70,000 people we don't want hostnames to be propagated in /etc/hosts files all over--we must use Domain Name Servers. Does anyone know how to make PC Pine 3.89 use the Novell LWP domain name resolver rather than a hosts file? Alex Nishri Network Services University of Toronto nishri@utcc.utoronto.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 16:52:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14677; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14241; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:36:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14235; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:36:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNr5o-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Re: Documentation for Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1994Jul12.225329.1045@henson.cc.wwu.edu> References: <1994Jul12.180921.5113@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:53:29 GMT evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) writes: >David Miller: > We're are updating our local printed Pine documentation this summer, /// Egads, I hope I do better with the documentation than that. (-:; -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 17:08:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15962; Tue, 12 Jul 94 17:08:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20899; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20893; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51:14 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qNrbS-00060nC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA29903; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:00:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jul 1994, Duffy Men wrote: > I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to > attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. > Thank you?? You can only attach it to someone if they have MIME capabilies. If so, then you can simply put the fully qualified filename in the ATTACHMENT section of the header. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 21:12:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21428; Tue, 12 Jul 94 21:12:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24708; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:51:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24702; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:51:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNv4A-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sluggo@netaxs.com (Paul Gelsman) Subject: Sending files Date: 13 Jul 1994 02:49:35 GMT Message-Id: <2vvknv$9u1@netaxs.com> How do I send a file using PINE? What directory do I have to put the file in for PINE to find it? TIA. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 07:36:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07218; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:36:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28517; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:18:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28511; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:18:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO4rZ-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geter@crl.com (Andy Gelernter) Subject: remove confirm on delete Date: 13 Jul 1994 06:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: <300ral$jja@crl2.crl.com> Hey I am wondering if there is a way to get rid of the confirm delete msg that I get as I leave a folder to go to another folder or when I quit pine. my thoughts are if i delete it then i want it deleted and the confirmation part is a hassle. thanks in advance - andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 07:42:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07490; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:42:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04281; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04275; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:23:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO4x5-00000DC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: Re: No DNS resolving with PC Pine Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:02:51 GMT Message-Id: <300s6b$nd0@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Sorry to say, but I had absolutely no problem. I simply modified the pinerc file to point to my server, set the EXCELAN variable to C:\NET, which is the root directory for my LWP 4.1 installation. I have NO hosts file, but a simply configured resolv.cfg which does name resolution. No problems whatsoever Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu At one point in my life I had a clear sense of direction and a great future to look forward to. College changed all that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 08:13:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08715; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05089; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05083; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:58:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO5Hc-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:05:13 GMT Message-Id: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. The system here is OSF/1 -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 09:13:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11824; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:13:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00757; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00751; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:43:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO6Aw-00000IC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thacker@unt.edu (Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator) Subject: Granting UserIDS/E-mail accounts? How are you doing it? Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:20:06 GMT Message-Id: <3010n6$rht@hermes.unt.edu> I am the manager of the Campus Wide Information System here at the University of North Texas. As such, some portions of student E-mail access seem to be my responsibility. I am interested in your combined experiences in granting thousands of E-mail/USERIDs to students, faculty and staff. Since we are about to embark on a universal access/electronic application process here at UNT, any input you could provide could save us quite a bit of time. The following questions cover our primary areas of concern: 1. What procedures do students, faculty and staff go through to get an Internet mail capable E-mail/User ID? (assuming an incoming freshman who has never had access to anything like this before) 2. Is the above procedure available to students, faculty and staff that might be only on-campus on the weekends or after-hours? That is, can it be access off-campus and if so, through what means (generic anonymous application process available via modem/VT-100 based sessions?) 3. What are the qualifications for being able to get a UserID? (full time students only, academic status?) 4. Is there a comprehensive database of all eligble people that you check against when someone applies for an account? Does the database cover people that might be gone for the summer, continuing students, transitional students, part-time student employees and those on academic probation? 5. Is there any fee associated with using such accounts? If so, how is collection of these fees handled and what steps are taken if accounts are not payed? (including printing fees or generally accessed student computer use fees. i.e. how is this system payed for?) 6. Are only UNIX, VAX or IBM-class mainframe accounts available? What about Novell or AppleShare based accounts? 7. What remote access methods are available? (Generic VT-100 or SLIP/PPP/other LAN based protocal) 8. What software is provided and is it site licesed if there are SLIP/PPP/LAN protocal based access provided? 9. What method do you have of ensuring that the person filling out an electronic form for a UserID (I assume that this is the method you use) is indeed who they say they are? What athentication scheme is used? (i.e. checking into a computer lab sufficient enough?) 10. Besides the possible central database that you check against to ensure that they are a student, are the active E-mail accounts kept in an X.500 database? A CSO (Gopher) database or where? Thanks again greatly for your assistance in this matter. ========================================= Mark Thacker Thacker@unt.edu CWIS Coordinator Thacker@untvax.bitnet P.O.Box 13495 817-565-2324 Denton, TX 76203 ========================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 09:29:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12525; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:29:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06574; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:03:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06568; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:03:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO6VJ-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmorgan@sunmuw1 (Terry L. Morgan) Subject: Willow?? Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:43:54 GMT Message-Id: <30123q$1sd@Tut.MsState.Edu> I know this is the wrong group but what is Willow that is located at ftp.cac.washington.edu? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 10:25:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15517; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08037; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:01:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from booz.bah.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08031; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:01:20 -0700 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA02205 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:57:53 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E241DA5@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:00:21 edt From: Gupta Ajay To: PINE Subject: Which Version Do I Download!? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:37:00 edt Message-Id: <2E241DA5@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi, I'm fairly new at this game, so please bear with me! I am not sure which "flavor" of PC-Pine I should download: f, p, n, or s. I have a Dell 486 (running windows) and am on a Microsoft LAN. I want to send binary files via the internet to a party also operating a pc on a novell LAN. I take it PC-Pine can do the text-binary encode/decode for this to work. Right? Ajay From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 11:14:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17905; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:14:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09459; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09453; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:39 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00247; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Terry L. Morgan" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Willow?? In-Reply-To: <30123q$1sd@Tut.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: > I know this is the wrong group but what is Willow that is located at > ftp.cac.washington.edu? Willow is the "Washington Information Looker-upper Layered Over Windows" It is an X-Mosaic general purpose information retrieval tool that UW developed as a front-end to our library databases. For more info, see http://www.cac.washington.edu/willow -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 11:43:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18863; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:43:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09890; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:24:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09884; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:24:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO8gb-00000LC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: acs_nistler@kinni.acc.uwrf.edu Subject: Guide to using Pine? Message-Id: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> Date: 13 Jul 94 12:21:53 -0600 Hi all, I was wondering if anybody has created a document on thier campus that explains what Pine is and what some of the basic commands are. The reason I am asking is we are trying to have everybody on our system (VAX/VMS, Unix, PC's) to use Pine for email. Hopefully this will create less confusion. We started to create a sample document, but wanted to look at others that may have already been created. I did ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu to see if there was anything there and retrieved the pine.blurb and found that useful, but still would like to see any others that may exist. Please email me directly with any examples. Thanks, Joan M. Nistler ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- | Joan M. Nistler | | | send email to: Joan.M.Nistler@uwrf.edu | Attempting to be an educator of | | UW-River Falls Undergraduate | others, while learning more | | Secondary Ed. : Math and Computer Science | myself. | | | | ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 12:39:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20909; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06263; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06257; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:25:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO9eD-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clusena@TrentU.CA (CHRIS LUSENA) Subject: folders on remote machines Message-Id: <1994Jul13.183706.28276@blaze.trentu.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 18:37:06 GMT I am currently trying to us folders on remote machines, and I am wondering if there is any way to get pine to automating log you in i.e. just give your name and password instead on prompting you for it, when you open that folder. thank in advance --Chris (Warning this is a copyrighted SIG, any reproduction or retransmition without the express written permission of CLusena@TrentU.Ca is strictly prohibited) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 13:48:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24467; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07945; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:34:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07939; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:34:37 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA20225; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:33:28 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA05856; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:32:35 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA17430; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:33:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > > I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at > the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a > tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber > things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. > > The system here is OSF/1 > -- > - Dan Dan, I am assuming the original file was named joe.tar.Z or something close. The steps you need to follow are: uncompress joe.tar.Z This will uncompress the file and leave it as joe.tar tar xf joe.tar This will un-tar the file to produce whatever was tar'd. Generally, at this point, you will need to compile and link the files to generate the executables. I don't know anything about 'joe' so excuse the vagueness. Included in the un-tar'd files will probably be some type of documentation(e.g. Makefile, Configure, README) on how to create the executables. Hope this helps, |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Kenny Wickstrom | Breaking S/W is FUN | | |wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com | (708)940-9000 x2349 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:06:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25168; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:06:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08462; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:54:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08454; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:54:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOB4D-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Guide to using Pine? Message-Id: Date: 13 Jul 94 20:11:08 GMT References: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> There is a document that was written for the UW Uniform Access systems that might be useful. It is available from ftp.u.washington.edu in the pub/doc/uniform directory. The file is GetStartPine.ps. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jul 1994 acs_nistler@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anybody has created a document on thier campus that > explains what Pine is and what some of the basic commands are. The reason I am > asking is we are trying to have everybody on our system (VAX/VMS, Unix, PC's) > to use Pine for email. Hopefully this will create less confusion. > We started to create a sample document, but wanted to look at others > that may have already been created. I did ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu to see > if there was anything there and retrieved the pine.blurb and found that useful, > but still would like to see any others that may exist. > Please email me directly with any examples. > > Thanks, > Joan M. Nistler > > ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > | Joan M. Nistler | | > | send email to: Joan.M.Nistler@uwrf.edu | Attempting to be an educator of | > | UW-River Falls Undergraduate | others, while learning more | > | Secondary Ed. : Math and Computer Science | myself. | > | | | > ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:24:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25883; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:24:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13870; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13864; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:14:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOBKy-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Message-Id: <301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu> Date: 13 Jul 94 20:33:59 GMT References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I was indeed able to "tar" my joe.tar archive, or untar it I guess, but I ran out of space on my disk before it finished. Thus endeth my adventure in creative editing. I am resigned to using Pico. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:48:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26646; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14428; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14422; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:39:02 -0700 Received: by netcom (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id MAA14939; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:36:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: How do I attach to news? To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I am trying to figure out how to attach to a local news feed with pine. Anyone know. I know the directory where our local news feed is, so I shouldn't need to worry about a domain name/nntp.....right? How do I do it? Thanks in advnace ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:52:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26766; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:52:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09564; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09558; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOBp0-00000MC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caldwell@xi.cs.fsu.edu (James H Caldwell Jr) Subject: Request for FAQ location Message-Id: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> Date: 13 Jul 94 21:01:47 GMT Could someone please direct me to a FAQ on Pine (and/or PC Pine) before I say something truly flame worthy on this group. Thanks in advance. -- James Caldwell Jr. (caldwell@cs.fsu.edu) (caldwell@scri.fsu.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 15:35:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28743; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:35:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15290; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15284; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:19:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOCO0-00000DC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Granting UserIDS/E-mail accounts? How are you doing it? Date: 13 Jul 1994 21:35:12 GMT Message-Id: <301mmg$l70@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <3010n6$rht@hermes.unt.edu> Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator (thacker@unt.edu) wrote: : 1. What procedures do students, faculty and staff go through to get an : Internet mail capable E-mail/User ID? (assuming an incoming freshman : who has never had access to anything like this before) We found it easiest to create logins for everyone, rather than on the fly. Students pick up logins at out help desk. The logins are printed on carbon forms so that the password is concealed until the form is opened. : 2. Is the above procedure available to students, faculty and staff that : might be only on-campus on the weekends or after-hours? That is, can : it be access off-campus and if so, through what means (generic : anonymous application process available via modem/VT-100 based : sessions?) We require them to come in and present an ID, then sign a user agreement. : 3. What are the qualifications for being able to get a UserID? (full : time students only, academic status?) Anyone enrolled. : 4. Is there a comprehensive database of all eligble people that you : check against when someone applies for an account? Does the database : cover people that might be gone for the summer, continuing students, : transitional students, part-time student employees and those on : academic probation? We access the student database to verify enrollment. We enter the logins into the database, and generate automatic delete requests when students leave. : 5. Is there any fee associated with using such accounts? If so, how is : collection of these fees handled and what steps are taken if accounts : are not payed? (including printing fees or generally accessed student : computer use fees. i.e. how is this system payed for?) No fee. : 6. Are only UNIX, VAX or IBM-class mainframe accounts available? What : about Novell or AppleShare based accounts? We use PCNFS and Cayman GatorBoxes to access the Unix password files. : 7. What remote access methods are available? (Generic VT-100 or : SLIP/PPP/other LAN based protocal) All of the above. : 8. What software is provided and is it site licesed if there are : SLIP/PPP/LAN protocal based access provided? We use Sassafras Keyserver, which provides IP based license control for Mac and Windows. : 9. What method do you have of ensuring that the person filling out an : electronic form for a UserID (I assume that this is the method you use) : is indeed who they say they are? What athentication scheme is used? : (i.e. checking into a computer lab sufficient enough?) Photo ID or registration slip is required. : 10. Besides the possible central database that you check against to : ensure that they are a student, are the active E-mail accounts kept in : an X.500 database? A CSO (Gopher) database or where? We use a CSO database. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 16:44:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01548; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12034; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12028; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:34:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qODW8-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How do I attach to news? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine currently assumes that your newsfeed is located in /usr/spool/news and the active file is in /usr/lib/news/active. If that is the case, news-collections=News *[] should work. If not, you might be better off using nntp... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Jul 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am trying to figure out how to attach to a local news feed with pine. > Anyone know. I know the directory where our local news feed is, so I > shouldn't need to worry about a domain name/nntp.....right? How do I do it? > > Thanks in advnace > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 17:44:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04336; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:44:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18454; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:34:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18448; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:34:42 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13804; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:35:17 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 08:35:15 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How to spawn from Pine? To: hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul11.115224.33461@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jul 1994 hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu wrote: > Is there a way (other than using postpone (^O) and quitting), > to interrupt Pine, drop to the operating system (spawn), do > something there, and then exit back to Pine? > Well, since I'm running csh, I can do a ctrl-z and put pine in the background. When I'm done with what I wanted to do I use fg to bring pine back. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 17:50:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04514; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:50:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18558; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:39:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18552; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOEWl-00000HC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: efalls%albnyvms.BITNET@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu Subject: Pine executables Date: 13 Jul 1994 19:40:26 GMT Message-Id: <301fva$1q8@rebecca.albany.edu> This is a question about the pine executables. I tried to compile Pine for Solaris and have some fatal errors which I am trying to work out. I won't post them all there since the errors and warnings are so long. However, after compile trouble, I decided to try to /mail/unix-bin solaris executables. When I try to run these I get Execution Permission Denied messages. To David: I apologize for originally sending this identical question to your direct mail box. I did that before I read your post that you much prefer questions to to be directed here or to FTP bugs at cac washington edu. Thanks for your patience Ellen Ellen Falls | As I gazed into the darkness Computer Information Services | I saw myself as a creature The Sage Colleges | driven and derided by vanity, 45 Ferry Street | and my eyes burned with Troy, New York 12180-4115 | anguish and anger. | efalls@uacsc1.albany.edu | - James Joyce (518) 270-2354 | Dubliners From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 19:42:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06995; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:42:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15447; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:34:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15441; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:34:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOGMw-00000LC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysman1@un.seqeb.gov.au (The Fantom Ferret) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Message-Id: References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 00:47:44 GMT Kenny Wickstrom wrote: |On 13 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: |> |> I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at |> the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a |> tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber |> things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. |> |> The system here is OSF/1 |> -- |> - Dan |Dan, |I am assuming the original file was named joe.tar.Z or something close. |The steps you need to follow are: | uncompress joe.tar.Z | This will uncompress the file and leave it as joe.tar | tar xf joe.tar | This will un-tar the file to produce whatever was tar'd. |Generally, at this point, you will need to compile and link the files to |generate the executables. I don't know anything about 'joe' so excuse |the vagueness. Included in the un-tar'd files will probably be some type |of documentation(e.g. Makefile, Configure, README) on how to create the |executables. Unless you got JOE 1.09, it won't build on OSF/1. -- Graeme Wightman (GW211) - System Support Email: ferret@fuzzy.seqeb.gov.au South East Queensland Electricity Board Fax: +61 7 2217556 GPO Box 1461, Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 7 2234150 <<< GOD is REAL .... unless declared INTEGER >>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 20:22:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07642; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:22:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16079; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:16:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16073; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:16:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOGzk-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bobinberea@aol.com (BobinBerea) Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE Date: 13 Jul 1994 21:49:01 -0400 Message-Id: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com> In article <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com>, matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) writes: > When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as > all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. > I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. Curious---I have the very same problem; didn't used to, with other email programs. Is there something in Pine that causes this problem? Uploading an ASCII file gags the email message; sometimes just copying and pasting a brief chunk of text makes it gag. Any clues, anyone? Bob Fowler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 21:05:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08355; Wed, 13 Jul 94 21:05:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21556; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:56:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21550; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:55:54 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16953; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:27 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:56:26 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE To: BobinBerea Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, BobinBerea wrote: > In article <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com>, matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew > Osborn) writes: > > > When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as > > all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. > > I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. > > Curious---I have the very same problem; didn't used to, with other email > programs. Is there something in Pine that causes this problem? Uploading > an ASCII file gags the email message; sometimes just copying and pasting a > brief chunk of text makes it gag. Any clues, anyone? Clue #1 Be more specific about your operating environment. What do you mean by "upload my ACSII file"? What type of terminal emulation software are you using? Are you using a direct async connection? Are you using TCP/IP? What TCP/IP software are you using? Answers to questions can be more readily obtained....and you are more likely to get help....if you *completely* define your problem. Bottom line....don't be vague. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 22:38:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09958; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:38:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17943; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:30:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17937; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOJ5c-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Request for FAQ location Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 22:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> The Pine FAQ is not yet available. I promise not to flame you unless the question has been asked and answered twice in the last week ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jul 1994, James H Caldwell Jr wrote: > > Could someone please direct me to a FAQ on Pine (and/or PC Pine) > before I say something truly flame worthy on this group. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > James Caldwell Jr. > (caldwell@cs.fsu.edu) > (caldwell@scri.fsu.edu) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 03:08:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15849; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:08:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26677; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26670; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qONIT-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 02:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ypelletier@cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 20:26:47 GMT Thanks to procmail and pine, my incoming mail now gets sorted into separate inboxes, depending on what the message is about, where it came from, etc. The only problem is that now I only get paged when new mail comes into the _default_ mailbox; but I also would like to be alerted when mail comes into some of my other incoming folders. I suppose I could have a separate xbiff for each mailbox, but that doesn't strike me as very elegant, and it would clutter my desktop. Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox for incoming mail? Thanks Yves -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 05:01:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18628; Thu, 14 Jul 94 05:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23658; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:50:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23652; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:50:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOP0y-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@cg57.esnet.com (Steve Froeschke) Subject: Pine 3.89 under Interactive Unix 4.01 Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:57:22 -0700 Message-Id: <301rgi$pn0@cg57.esnet.com> Has anyone been able to build Pine 3.89 under Interactive? If so, what hoops did you have to jump through to get it to build? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Steve -- Internet: steve@cg57.esnet.com / stevef@netcom.com / stevef@crash.cts.com UUCP: ...nosc!cg57!steve / ...netcom!stevef / ...crash!cg57!steve Fidonet: f217.n202.z1.fidonet.org!Steve.Froeschke From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 07:39:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22491; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:39:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00859; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:25:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00853; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:25:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qORQI-00000IC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: NN + Pico -How to get cursor to start at beginning of text Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:21:45 GMT Message-Id: <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2vvai8$k3v@w8hd.w8hd.org> kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes: >How can NN be configured to cause the cursor to be placed at the starting point >of text entry (not at the top of page in the header) I don't know how to do this with pico but maybe the folks in comp.mail.pine or comp.editors know... >and also not ask for y/n on >exiting. > >If its possible, it would also be nice to cause it to write out the file >and not ask for verification of the file name to write. For these you can use pico with the -t flag (tool mode), i.e., for nn put the following in ~/.nn/init set editor pico -t Or if you're using csh (or one of its relatives) you can put these two lines in your .login: setenv EDITOR 'pico -t' setenv VISUAL $EDITOR Hope this helps, Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 08:20:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23919; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:20:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26982; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26976; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:11:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOSBU-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmoore@umich.edu (David M. Moore) Subject: PC-Pine Low Memory Error Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:37:07 GMT Message-Id: <303iij$dm1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Can PC-Pine make use of expanded or extended memory? Frequently, when I try to forward a large message (20K+) PC-Pine "dies." Any thoughts? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 09:21:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27856; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:21:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28853; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:07:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28835; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:07:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOT0g-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Date: 14 Jul 1994 08:21:03 -0700 Message-Id: <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Yves Pelletier wrote: :Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox :for incoming mail? The Korn shell and recent versions of the Bourne shell support MAILPATH and MAILCHECK environment variables that let you poll multiple mailboxes at specified intervals. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 10:14:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00255; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:14:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00314; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:01:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00308; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:01:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOTsk-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grh@ccinet.ab.ca Subject: dos pine mail detect Date: 14 Jul 1994 16:05:03 GMT Message-Id: <303nnf$edj@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca> We have just installed dos pine with pine getting mail from a unix server through IMAP. We are just wondering if there is a way for the DOS machines to be notified if there is new mail without going into pine. Thanks -- Quinn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 10:38:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01143; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05611; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05603; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:20:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOU7L-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:38:16 GMT In article , Yves Pelletier wrote: > > The only problem is that now I only get paged when new mail > comes into the _default_ mailbox; but I also would like to be alerted > when mail comes into some of my other incoming folders. I suppose > I could have a separate xbiff for each mailbox, but that doesn't > strike me as very elegant, and it would clutter my desktop. > > Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox > for incoming mail? > Most shells allow you to specify a list of files to be checked for new mail. In sh, ksh or bash you can set a colon seperated list of files in the environment variable MAILPATH. Csh has something similar, I forget the details. Check the man page for your favourite shell. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 11:45:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04052; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:45:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02384; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02378; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:31:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVGF-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcollins@servtech.com (justin collins) Subject: Errors While Compiling Pine for Unixware 1.1.1 Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:31:19 -0400 Message-Id: HELP ME!!!!! I am trying to build pine for Unixware 1.1.1 and I keep getting the following error. I tried to find the syntax errors in the code but even retyping it didn't work (I do know C, and I could not find anything wrong). --------- /usr/ccs/bin/cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c folder.c UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1023: warning: semantics of ">" change in AN SI C; use explicit cast UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1434: newline in string literal UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1435: Syntax error before or at: if UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1453: Syntax error before or at: else UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: identifier redeclared: q_status_message2 UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: function prototype parameters must have types UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: identifier redeclared: pretty_fn UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: Syntax error before or at: ) UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: syntax error: empty declarat ion UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1457: Syntax error before or at: = UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1457: Syntax error before or at: -> UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1457: warning: parameter mismatch: 2 declare d, 0 defined UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1458: Syntax error before or at: -> UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1458: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1458: identifier redeclared: folder_delete UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1462: syntax error, probably missing ",", ";" or "=" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1464: undefined symbol: new_foldername UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1464: undefined symbol: cntxt UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1464: warning: improper pointer/integer comb ination: arg #1 UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1464: warning: improper pointer/integer comb ination: arg #2 UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1465: cannot recover from previous errors *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 145425 + 19952 + 4184 = 169561 bin/imapd: 144317 + 20288 + 12188 = 176793 bin/pico: 94161 + 25216 + 24068 = 143445 Done ----------- any ideas? -justin m. collins From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 12:06:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05073; Thu, 14 Jul 94 12:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03074; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03068; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVfr-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NN + Pico -How to get cursor to start at beginning of text Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vvai8$k3v@w8hd.w8hd.org> <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> You can use the +nn flag to pico to specify what line to position the cursor to, but it does not know how to parse for the end of the headers. E.g. pico +11 file will open file and position the cursor to line 11. I will leave it to the NN experts to give the aqppropriate magic to compute "+11"... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jul 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes: > >How can NN be configured to cause the cursor to be placed at the starting point > >of text entry (not at the top of page in the header) > > I don't know how to do this with pico but maybe the folks in comp.mail.pine > or comp.editors know... > > > >and also not ask for y/n on > >exiting. > > > >If its possible, it would also be nice to cause it to write out the file > >and not ask for verification of the file name to write. > > For these you can use pico with the -t flag (tool mode), i.e., for nn put > the following in ~/.nn/init > > set editor pico -t > > Or if you're using csh (or one of its relatives) you can put these two > lines in your .login: > > setenv EDITOR 'pico -t' > setenv VISUAL $EDITOR > > > Hope this helps, > Nancy > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05194; Thu, 14 Jul 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08040; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08034; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVfp-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: pine3.89 for IRIX locks when opening folders Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:18:03 Message-Id: I just installed Pine 3.89 on my Silicon Graphics system running IRIX 5.2. When running pine, it creates two default folders saved-messages sent-mail If I try to open either of these two empty folders, pine hangs. Yes, the folders are not on the local hard disk, but are accessed from and NFS file server. I read some recent posts about using IMAP. However, these didn't give many details. How can I correct this problem? ============================================================================== matthew black, systems analyst | The opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | don't necessarily reflect those my employer. cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu ===============================(c) 1994 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 14:22:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10533; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:22:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11157; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:11:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11151; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:11:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOXm7-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pthirose@nachos.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:30:52 GMT ypelletier@cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) writes: >Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox >for incoming mail? In various Bourne-shell derivatives, there is a mailpath environment variable. In various csh derivatives, there is a mail shell variable. But ince you mentined xbiff, there was a program posted to one of the .sources newsgroups a few weeks ago, called "xmultibiff" which is a xbiff that can do more than one mail-folder. It can also beep you when news-articles arrive and all sorts of other stuff. You might want to try and see if you can find that program too. PH -- I do not speak for for UC Davis, Academic Computing Services, or anyone else. Paul Hirose pthirose@engr.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 16:23:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15024; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13889; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:13:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13883; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:13:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOZRi-00000eC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:09:58 GMT Message-Id: <3049j6$4kt@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> In article <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) writes: > >I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at >the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a >tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber >things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. > you have to untar it, (paint thinner, solvent, etc.) or you could use 'tar -xvf joe.tar' that would be easiest, I guess and you should find your joe executable somewhere if it doesn't work, let me know bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 17:38:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18522; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:38:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15913; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:27:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15907; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:27:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOaoB-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: savundar@hdss46 (P Savundararaj) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Date: 14 Jul 1994 18:50:01 GMT Message-Id: <3041cp$7rt@sndsu1.sinet.slb.com> References: There is an application called "xmultibiff" which allows one to do this. I think I got it from ftp.x.org -- Philip M. Savundararaj email: savundar@houston.wireline.slb.com Schlumberger Well Services Phone: (713) 928 - 4123 Houston, Texas, USA. FAX: (713) 928 - 4344 ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 18:39:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19677; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:39:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11563; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:32:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11557; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:32:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qObrX-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsfpel@cidsv07.cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: Date: 14 Jul 94 20:50:45 GMT References: <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> In article <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU>, jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) writes: |> In article , |> Yves Pelletier wrote: |> |> :Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox |> :for incoming mail? |> |> The Korn shell and recent versions of the Bourne shell support MAILPATH |> and MAILCHECK environment variables that let you poll multiple mailboxes |> at specified intervals. |> Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for. Our system defaults to csh, though. Minor bummer... I'll have to switch shells to get what I want. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 19:01:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20114; Thu, 14 Jul 94 19:01:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17193; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17187; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOcA7-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsfpel@cidsv07.cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: References: <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:07:56 GMT In article <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk>, njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) writes: |> Most shells allow you to specify a list of files to be checked for new |> mail. In sh, ksh or bash you can set a colon seperated list of files in |> the environment variable MAILPATH. Csh has something similar, I forget |> the details. Check the man page for your favourite shell. |> Neil, You are right, of course. I just checked: the C shell allows multiple files to be listed in the "mail" variable. For instance: set mail=(/users/yves/mail/default /users/yves/mail/wx-talk /users/yves/mail/op-met) I hope I got that right... -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 21:47:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23122; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:47:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOej8-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toms@cais.cais.com (Tom Strickland Jr) Subject: Re: Errors While Compiling Pine for Unixware 1.1.1 Date: 15 Jul 1994 04:02:32 GMT Message-Id: <3051oo$o7u@sun.cais.com> References: justin collins (jcollins@servtech.com) wrote: : HELP ME!!!!! : I am trying to build pine for Unixware 1.1.1 and I keep getting the : following error. I tried to find the syntax errors in the code but : even retyping it didn't work (I do know C, and I could not find : anything wrong). : any ideas? Pine on Unixware Summary How to compile: Make the following changes to the pine/osdep/os-sv4.h file: 1. remove the comment on the line that has #define ANSI 2. comment out the line that defines const (#define const ) 3. change the line for sendmail location to /usr/ucblib/sendmail 4. Change the defines so that pine/pico will use TERMINFO instead of TERMCAP. 5. USE the BUILD script build sv4 trying to make pine alone does not work well. 6. move the binaries and give proper permissions. Other Notes: While you are in the os-sv4.h file check to make sure this is setup the way you want it. I am still using the default mail setup with unixware and I did make the change on page 8 of the unixware release notes (ie add -r). SYSTEM: unixware version 1.1 installed from cd with SDK and TCP/IP, but nothing special. So hope this helps the others who sent mail and asked to report my results. Thanks to those a who helped! The only other note I have to add is this: I cant remember if I used gcc or the SDK to compile, but I think is was SDK. Clean the distribution before you compile. I have found it best to build the entire set from the begining. I think make clean will clean up for you, but I have compiled to many things inthe last couple weeks I cant remember. Good luck. BTW, gcc installs easily, you just ahve to follow all the steps. -- toms@cais.com Computer advice is free. As long as it doesn't cost anything. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 22:23:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23691; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:23:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14977; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:19:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14971; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:19:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOfOB-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thang@mickey.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Thang M Nguyen) Subject: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 04:39:00 GMT Hello, I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the locking mechanism. If any of you out there know about this problem, can you email to me or post on this newsgroup. I am very appreciate it. Thank you. --thang From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 23:52:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25418; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16289; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:43:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16283; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:43:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOgi8-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism Date: 14 Jul 1994 23:08:34 -0700 Message-Id: <305952$26p@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Thang M Nguyen wrote: :Hello, : :I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. :I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the :folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the :locking mechanism. You have the source (or can fetch it from ftp.cac.washington.edu); if you're in a hurry then a tool like trace or truss can give some hints. For instance, I ran 'truss -topen pine' and here's (part of) the output. In that session, I saved a message from my inbox to the saved-messages folder. It looks like on my system, pine uses a lock file. (That might well be system dependent.) open("/var/mail/jdavis.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 open("/var/mail/jdavis", O_RDWR, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_RDONLY, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_RDONLY, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_WRONLY|O_APPEND|O_CREAT, 0600) = 6 open("/var/mail/jdavis.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 02:39:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28860; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:39:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23913; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:30:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23907; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:30:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOjGg-00000WC; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ([ Marlboro | PC ] 8D) Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? Message-Id: References: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 08:39:04 GMT Duffy Men (duffy@cais.cais.com) wrote: : I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to : attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. Write a mail to your friend. On the header line "Attachment:", press "Control-J". You'll then be prompted for a filename and you can write short description of this file as attached with your mail. Mind the file size of 10MB. Though your account can hold it, your friend's may not. You may want to compress it before attaching it to the mail. Common compression programs like PKZIP/LHA/GZIP may help. Of course you friend shoud have a copy of the same compression program to be able to decompress the file. -- Marlboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 03:57:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00496; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24788; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:34:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciup1.ncc.up.pt by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24782; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:33:45 -0700 Received: from rosa.esb.ucp.pt by ciup1.ncc.up.pt with SMTP id AA05259 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:33:30 +0100 Received: by rosa.esb.ucp.pt id AA18496 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:32:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:32:16 +0100 From: John Cullen Reply-To: John Cullen Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? To: pcfong%hkusub@mx2.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Jul 1994 pcfong%hkusub@mx2.cac.washington.edu wrote: > Duffy Men (duffy@cais.cais.com) wrote: > : I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to > : attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. ... > Mind the file size of 10MB. Though your account can hold it, > your friend's may not. You may want to compress it before attaching it ... Be aware too, that even if your account can hold a file of that size, and your friend's account can also, the same may not be true of the intermediary mail systems between your two sites! For example, mail from colleagues of mine in the UK is limited by the gateway (nsfnet-relay) to 500K messages, even though they could send 10Mb, and I could (technically) receive! You may want to check out a program to split the file into pieces, eg. the GNU split program will work on both byte and line counts. > Marlboro Fong > pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk Hope this helps, John. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Escola Superior de Biotecnologia | Email: J.Cullen@esb.ucp.pt Universidade Catolica Portuguesa | Phone: +351 2 558 0073 Rua Dr. Antonio Bernadino de Almeida | Fax: +351 2 590 351 4200 PORTO | Portugal | #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 11:45:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16416; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04004; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:05:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mercury.bih.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03984; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:04:58 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by BIH Mail Handler (8.6.9/8.6.7) id OAA29255; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:06:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:06:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SysAdm/Postmaster Subject: can't access this MIME To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have clarity as to why Pine won't let me access/save/view this MIME enclosure? I already had the person at our site request they not send it in uuencoded format and haven't seen any problems with pine handling MIME before. Thanks Scott McWilliams Network Services Group Distributed Computing Beth Israel Hospital Vox: +1 617.735.5559 Boston, Massachusetts Fax: +1 617.735.3966 --Message-Boundary-6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Information about this message. This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for help. ---- File information ----------- File: IBDMAP12.TXT Date: 15 Jul 1994, 16:34 Size: 32255 bytes. 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charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: >From the upcoming Pine FAQ: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. [MRC] --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Jul 1994, Thang M Nguyen wrote: > Hello, > > I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. > I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the > folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the > locking mechanism. If any of you out there know about this problem, can > you email to me or post on this newsgroup. I am very appreciate it. > Thank you. > > --thang > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 16:52:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29432; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:52:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06332; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:45:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06326; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOwat-00000WC; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: efalls%albnyvms.BITNET@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 15 Jul 1994 18:30:07 GMT Message-Id: <306kjf$8nf@rebecca.albany.edu> References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu>,<301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu> Rather than giving up, Dan....Why not transfer the joe file to another disk, if you have access. For instance, there may be more room in the var or opt directory? Ellen Falls In article <301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu>, df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) writes: > >Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I was indeed able to "tar" >my joe.tar archive, or untar it I guess, but I ran out of space on my >disk before it finished. > >Thus endeth my adventure in creative editing. I am resigned to using Pico. >-- > - Dan Ellen Falls | As I gazed into the darkness Computer Information Services | I saw myself as a creature The Sage Colleges | driven and derided by vanity, 45 Ferry Street | and my eyes burned with Troy, New York 12180-4115 | anguish and anger. | efalls@uacsc1.albany.edu | - James Joyce (518) 270-2354 | Dubliners From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 19:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03061; Fri, 15 Jul 94 19:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17870; Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:53:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17863; Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:53:14 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEQUXUMV4G8WWFTQ@asu.edu>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:57:23 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113452>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:45 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: Shahjehan Khatri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, > Pine implements all of them. _All_? How did you find out the scheme _I_ use? = ) I am locked out of a Friday-night date, so decided to make up by reading "c-client" code having to do with locks.... > * Program: Berkeley mail routines > * > * Author: Mark Crispin Mark, see signature. = ) > int bezerk_lock (file,flags,mode,lock,op) > char *file; > int flags; > int mode; > char *lock; > int op; > { > int fd,ld,j; > int i = LOCKTIMEOUT * 60 - 1; > char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; > struct timeval tp; > struct stat sb; > /* build lock filename */ > strcat (bezerk_file (lock,file),".lock"); > do { /* until OK or out of tries */ > gettimeofday (&tp,NIL); /* get the time now */ [...] > /* try to get the lock */ > if ((ld = open (lock,O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0666)) < 0) switch (errno) { > case EEXIST: /* if extant and old, grab it for ourselves */ > if ((!stat (lock,&sb)) && tp.tv_sec > sb.st_ctime + LOCKTIMEOUT * 60) > ld = open (lock,O_WRONLY|O_CREAT,0666); > break; Pardon the unaffected simplicy, but what happens if multiple processes decide to "grab it for ourselves." [...] > if ((ld < 0) && *lock) { /* if failed to make lock file and retry OK */ > if (!(i%15)) { > sprintf (tmp,"Mailbox %s is locked, will override in %d seconds...", > file,i); > mm_log (tmp,WARN); > } > sleep (1); /* wait 1 second before next try */ > } > } while (i-- && ld < 0 && *lock); > /* open file */ > if ((fd = open (file,flags,mode)) >= 0) flock (fd,op); > else { /* open failed */ > j = errno; /* preserve error code */ > if (*lock) unlink (lock); /* flush the lock file if any */ > errno = j; /* restore error code */ > } > return fd; > } Please explain why you don't check whether "flock (fd,op)" above succeeds. Thanks! -- "The sin of my ingratitude even now Was heavy on me. Thou art so far before, That swiftest wing of recompense is slow To overtake thee. Would thou hadst less deserv'd, That the proportion both of thanks and payment Might have been mine! Only I have left to say, More is thy due than more than all can pay." -- Shakespeare From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 00:27:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08320; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:27:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26844; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26835; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qP3kf-00000BC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) Subject: Can pine be used as a listserver? Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:47:30 -0600 Message-Id: <307vq2$l1l@nyx.cs.du.edu> I have been using pine for years now and refuse to use any other mailer. It seems so full featured that I think the others would only dissapoint. I was wondering though if pine could be used to create an automatic listserver? I realize that this is not perhaps strictly a mail applications job but I thought I'd ask anyway. If the answer is no (1) are there plans to include this in later versions and (2) does anyone know of other unix applications that can do the job? Thanks - Mike >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< -- >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 01:35:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10140; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19759; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:31:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19744; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:31:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qP4px-000006C; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian) Subject: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 16 Jul 1994 08:10:47 GMT Message-Id: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and send the message automatically to the destination. NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. Thanks, Arno -- GeneMED(tm) | Major: Molecular Biology Arno D. Sarkissian(hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) | Biochemistry 10832 Encino Ave. | Granada Hills., CA. 91344 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 13:08:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25311; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:08:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18811; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:00:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18788; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:00:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPFa8-00000JC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:35:56 GMT Message-Id: <309cqs$28k@rigel.infinet.com> References: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> Ed Greshko (egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : Clue #1 : Be more specific about your operating environment. : What do you mean by "upload my ACSII file"? What type of : terminal emulation software are you using? Are you using a direct async : connection? Are you using TCP/IP? What TCP/IP software are you using? : Answers to questions can be more readily obtained....and you : are more likely to get help....if you *completely* define your problem. Clue #2: Some helpful people alread answered this problem several days ago, "terminal emulation...direct async...TCP/IP..." etc never came up in the discussion. I guess they weren't so relevant, after all. Matthew From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 13:27:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25782; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:27:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21398; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:22:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21378; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:22:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPFnq-00000YC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ces@christa.unh.edu (Christan E Schoenfeld) Subject: How do I know when I have mail in .login Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:38:05 GMT Message-Id: <309cut$kta@mozz.unh.edu> I use pine under UNIX on a DEC Alpha. I had a line in my .login: test -s /usr/spool/mail/$USER && echo "You might have mail, I can't tell" That told me when I had new mail (I changed the text when I started using Pine) but it doesn't work with Pine - It always flags as having new mail Is there any way I can still do this? -- __________________________________________________________________________ |Chris E. Schoenfeld | University of New Hampshire | |Communications / PoliSci Major | Look to the Cookie! | |_________________________________|________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 15:23:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29652; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04659; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:17:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04650; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPHN4-00000vC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Subject: os2 version Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:20:53 MST Dos anyone know if there is a version of pine for os2, or if anyone is working on a port? Also, is there a dos pine version that has been written to use the ibm tcpip kernel. If there is no os2 version of pine, it might be possible to use pine in a dos session under os2, as long as it can talk to the ibm tcpip stack. David Bear Support Systems Analyst College of Public Programs internet: David.Bear@asu.edu phone: 602-965-8257 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 15:25:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29711; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:25:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04824; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:18:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04804; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPHN9-00000wC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Subject: os2 port Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:49:33 MST Is there anyone porting pcpine to os2? Even a character based version would be nice. If not, is anyone using the DOS version of pine under os2 successfully? I have ibm's tcpip stack. I have only seen pcpine for ftp's, packet driver's, and Novell's stack. David Bear Support Systems Analyst College of Public Programs internet: David.Bear@asu.edu phone: 602-965-8257 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 16:09:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01365; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09794; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09785; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPI9C-00000FC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: corleone@clark.net Subject: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 16 Jul 1994 18:23:27 -0400 Message-Id: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recently installed pine3.8.9 on a Sparc 5 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1. I also am running shadow passwording. The problem is that if I go into setup within pine, I am allowed to change my passwd, which is then changed in /etc/passwd, NOT /etc/security/passwd.adjunct. This of course defeats the purpose of shadow passwords. HELP!!!!!! Frank DiGennaro corleone@clark.net -- Frank DiGennaro corleone@clark.net " As far Back As I Can Remember, I Always Wanted To Be A Gangster." -- Henry Hill, Brooklyn, N.Y. 1955 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 18:43:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05359; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:43:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26890; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26876; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:36:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPKVh-00000DC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 16 Jul 1994 17:42:03 -0700 Message-Id: <309uor$158@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> In article <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net>, wrote: : : :I recently installed pine3.8.9 on a Sparc 5 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1. :I also am running shadow passwording. The problem is that if I go :into setup within pine, I am allowed to change my passwd, which is :then changed in /etc/passwd, NOT /etc/security/passwd.adjunct. This :of course defeats the purpose of shadow passwords. HELP!!!!!! Worked for me on a Solaris 2.3 machine. But there is a serious security problem here. If you look at the implementation in osdep/chnge_pw, you'll see strcpy(cmd_buf, "passwd"); system(cmd_buf); Note a relative pathname is used. This is vulnerable to Trojans in your $PATH. I wish I'd noticed the password-changing function before; looks like I'll be doing a quick edit and recompiling pine on a few platforms tonight! I don't see why a mail user agent needs a password-changing function at all, but this implementation is seriously broken. Besides the security hole, passwd isn't necessarily the right program to call. On some systems it should be yppasswd or nispasswd instead. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 20:05:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06384; Sat, 16 Jul 94 20:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05325; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05316; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:59:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPLsi-00000IC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jai@cs.mun.ca (Jai Roberts) Subject: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Message-Id: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 19:04:51 GMT I was wondering if anyone out there knew how to use pine v. 3.89 to post on these newsgroups and others. Any responses can be sent to me personally, or posted here, but please ensure that the subject appears, or that you direct my attention to it, as I dn't read this group very often. Thank you very much. Jai Roberts jai@ganymede.cs.mun.ca -- "I'm as baffled as Adam on Mother's Day." Bolivian soccer coach Xabier Azkargorta in 6/20/94 S.I. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 22:20:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08230; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:20:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19499; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19493; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPO7V-00000FC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mauricio@tezcat.com (Mauricio Araujo) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 17 Jul 1994 04:44:58 GMT Message-Id: <30ad0a$bg6@xochi.tezcat.com> References: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> arno sarkissian (hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine : to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and : send the message automatically to the destination. : NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. NO, please respond here. I too am interested in the answer to this question. i think that I can devote sometime in reading this group to find the answer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 02:06:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12165; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:06:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01174; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01168; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:00:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPRbf-00000HC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: 17 Jul 1994 08:32:44 GMT Message-Id: <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> In a previous article, jai@cs.mun.ca (Jai Roberts) says: >I was wondering if anyone out there knew how to use pine v. 3.89 to post No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. To post, you must use methods used by those with read-only access to a news server, namely, posting by means of a mail-to-news gateway. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 04:54:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15848; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:54:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03676; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03670; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:46:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPUCZ-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njj4@tower.york.ac.uk (Nicholas Jackson) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: 17 Jul 1994 11:06:29 GMT Message-Id: <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> Scripsit Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) .... > No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post > news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. I tried using Pine3.89 to read news via nntp from our local server, and was (I'm afraid) unimpressed with the user interface; just as a matter of interest, are there any plans to introduce threading in a later version? Nicholas -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- As the spring rains fall, Nicholas Jackson Soaking in them, on the roof, njj4@tower.york.ac.uk Is a child's rag ball. http://www.york.ac.uk/~njj4 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 05:36:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16610; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:36:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04239; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:29:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04233; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:29:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPUoP-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmidt@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.c.schmidt) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 11:42:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> >From article <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net>, by hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian): > > Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine > to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and > send the message automatically to the destination. > > NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. > > GeneMED(tm) | Major: Molecular Biology > Arno D. Sarkissian(hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) | Biochemistry > 10832 Encino Ave. | > Granada Hills., CA. 91344 | > Sir & Whoever Else is interested ..... If you are using a UNIX Pine, you are on a UNIX system. By definition, that's on-line. I'm not sure if Pine is offered in a Windoze or Mac version or not, but that is what you are looking for. If there is such a Pine, it would need to be bundled with some sort of software that downloads the mail to your machine. This might be SLIP, with TCP/IP and SMTP with POP2 or POP3. Or it could use something else all-together. You might try checking out one of the Off-Line Mail Readers for Windoze or Mac........ Yours ....... Richard C Schmidt ============================================================= Richard C Schmidt Work: schmidt@rcdlsvr.attmail.com Home: rcs@fafnir.atl.ga.us Opinions are mine alone - I sometimes have trouble even doing that -- ============================================================= Richard C Schmidt Work: schmidt@rcdlsvr.attmail.com Home: rcs@fafnir.atl.ga.us Opinions are mine alone - I sometimes have trouble even doing that From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 06:01:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16907; Sun, 17 Jul 94 06:01:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04605; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu:brentb@orca.fhcrc.org> Received: from arizvm1.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04599; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:55:51 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:49:52 MST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA88243; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:57:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:54:35 -800 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: os2 version To: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a group of us here interested in precisely these issues. OS/2 and IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 provides a really excellent and easily maintained general computing platform, and it would be really nice to have a client-type mail program such as pine. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On Tue, 12 Jul 1994 David.Bear@Asu.Edu wrote: > Dos anyone know if there is a version of pine for os2, or if anyone > is working on a port? > > Also, is there a dos pine version that has been written to use the ibm tcpip > kernel. If there is no os2 version of pine, it might be possible to use pine > in a dos session under os2, as long as it can talk to the ibm tcpip stack. > > David Bear > Support Systems Analyst > College of Public Programs > internet: David.Bear@asu.edu > phone: 602-965-8257 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 11:39:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21818; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:39:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18627; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:29:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18621; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:29:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPadu-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 17 Jul 1994 18:10:27 GMT Message-Id: <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu> In article <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu>, Jim Davis wrote: >Worked for me on a Solaris 2.3 machine. > >But there is a serious security problem here. If you look at the >implementation in osdep/chnge_pw, you'll see > > strcpy(cmd_buf, "passwd"); > system(cmd_buf); > >Note a relative pathname is used. This is vulnerable to Trojans in >your $PATH. I wish I'd noticed the password-changing function before; >looks like I'll be doing a quick edit and recompiling pine on a few >platforms tonight! After our systems got broken in a few months ago, PINE was one of the pkgs I rebuilt on all of our 5 platforms to take out the password changing ``feature'' (which means that I can't use the pre-compiled binaries ... sigh). > >I don't see why a mail user agent needs a password-changing function >at all, but this implementation is seriously broken. Besides the >security hole, passwd isn't necessarily the right program to call. On >some systems it should be yppasswd or nispasswd instead. > I can see the use of having this, since you might want to have email-only accounts, with a hacked-up PINE as your shell -- but that's probably not common at most sites. My recommendation would be take it out completely, or if not, do a better job of calling the underlying password routines to handle NIS+/NIS/C2 etc systems transparently as well. mumit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 16:45:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26925; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:45:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29680; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:35:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29670; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:35:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPfRA-00000cC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbas@callisto.unm.edu (i am me) Subject: vi editor Date: 17 Jul 1994 23:08:07 GMT Message-Id: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? pico is ok but it really bugz =( morris -- Now I lay me down to sleep I pray the Lord my soul to keep And if I die before I wake I pray the Lord my toys to break... So none of the other kids can use em. Amen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 20:27:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00124; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:27:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25521; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25515; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPiqG-00000LC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 19:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 17 Jul 1994 19:32:08 -0700 Message-Id: <30cpj8$2ec@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu> <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Mumit Khan wrote: :I can see the use of having this, since you might want to have email-only :accounts, with a hacked-up PINE as your shell -- but that's probably :not common at most sites. My recommendation would be take it out :completely, or if not, do a better job of calling the underlying password :routines to handle NIS+/NIS/C2 etc systems transparently as well. Perhaps the full pathname to the appropriate password program could be #define'd in the appropriate osdep/os-xxx.h header file; then it would be a configurable option for systems where there are different possible choices. Even then calling system() wouldn't be wise -- the pathname argument could be subverted by games with the IFS environment variable. An explicit fork and exec would be safer. Leaving out this option altogether would be safer still. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 20:29:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00165; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:29:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22369; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22361; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPiwG-00000PC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dklindt@cobra.ordata.com (David P Klindt) Subject: Re: vi editor Message-Id: <1994Jul18.025014.3252@cobra.ordata.com> References: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 02:50:14 GMT Pico is a NICE editor for messages. VI is ok for programming stuff. I am REAL glad that I no longer have to use VI for message work! i am me (mbas@callisto.unm.edu) wrote: : can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? : pico is ok but it really bugz =( : morris : -- : Now I lay me down to sleep : I pray the Lord my soul to keep : And if I die before I wake : I pray the Lord my toys to break... : So none of the other kids can use em. Amen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 07:21:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12549; Mon, 18 Jul 94 07:21:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04387; Mon, 18 Jul 94 06:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciup1.ncc.up.pt by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04381; Mon, 18 Jul 94 06:49:30 -0700 Received: from rosa.esb.ucp.pt by ciup1.ncc.up.pt with SMTP id AA24580 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:49:13 +0100 Received: by rosa.esb.ucp.pt id AA02823 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Pine Info ); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:47:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:47:58 +0100 From: John Cullen Subject: How do I remove the machine name from From:(not use-only-domain-name) To: Pine Info Cc: John Cullen Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, Situation: pine3.89 running on Linux box (mailserver) pine3.89 running on DECstation (user machine) imapd running on mailserver I have tried various combinations of configuration file but with no success. When our email users send mail internally, or Cc: a copy to themselves, the "From:" part of the address always reads: From: user@rosa.esb.ucp.pt (where rosa is the name of our mailhost). I have tried setting the use-domain-name-only option, and also setting the user-domain explicitly (separately and in combination for these options -- and I know that the latter means the former is not used!) When I examine the mail headers directly, the From: line simply has the username (eg. From: jjsc) with the full name and machine.host part being added by Pine. So, my question is, is there any way to force pine to _always_ use only the domain (esb.ucp.pt) in this case, for _any_ local address? If I've overlooked something obvious, flame me, but tell me first what I missed! Many thanks in advance, John --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Escola Superior de Biotecnologia | Email: J.Cullen@esb.ucp.pt Universidade Catolica Portuguesa | Phone: +351 2 558 0073 Rua Dr. Antonio Bernadino de Almeida | Fax: +351 2 590 351 4200 PORTO | Portugal | #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 10:33:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20757; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08880; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:12:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08874; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:12:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPvvS-000006C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> Threading will come some time _after_ Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Jul 1994, Nicholas Jackson wrote: > Scripsit Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) .... > > No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post > > news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. > > I tried using Pine3.89 to read news via nntp from our local server, and > was (I'm afraid) unimpressed with the user interface; just as a matter > of interest, are there any plans to introduce threading in a later > version? > > Nicholas > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > As the spring rains fall, Nicholas Jackson > Soaking in them, on the roof, njj4@tower.york.ac.uk > Is a child's rag ball. http://www.york.ac.uk/~njj4 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 10:56:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21863; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:56:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29472; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:43:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [199.99.95.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29466; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:43:47 -0700 Received: by craycom.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cray Communications) id AA12432; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:46 EDT Received: from craycomm(125.0.0.100) by craygate.craycom.com via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma012430; Mon Jul 18 13:42:22 1994 Received: from saturn.craycom by craycomm.craycom.com (4.1/craycomm-2.0) id AA24735; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:21 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:21 EDT From: jensen@craycom.com (Bill Jensen) Message-Id: <9407181742.AA24735@craycomm.craycom.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE and PC-NFS I'm new to PINE and this list, and am having some trouble with PC-PINE for PC-NFS. I've installed a couple of users, that work just fine, but this morning I was unable to get a user going. PINE would not open his INBOX, complaining that it couldn't find the host. The main difference between the systems, is that the ones that work use PC-NFS 4.0, and the one that doesn't is using PC-NFS 3.5. Does PC-PINE not work with pre-4.0 PC-NFS? The PC has several file systems mounted from that host, so it's not actually unreachable, but for some reason PINE can't handle the host name. We can upgrade that PC-NFS, but I'd like to be sure there's no other way, first. Thanks much for any assistance! Bill Jensen Cray Communications, Inc. Principal Engineer Engineering Dept. (301)-317-7553 9020 Junction Drive jensen@craycom.com Annapolis Junction, MD 20701 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 11:41:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23901; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:41:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10541; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:29:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10535; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:29:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPx6g-00000BC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Pine on Sun systems?? Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:10:15 GMT Message-Id: <30ed1n$d32@news.cs.tulane.edu> Hi, I would like to run PINE on our SunOS 5.3 (version 4), but the pine documentation tells me that it does not support that platform. Is this true, and is there another way to get PINE up and running. ALSO, I would at least like to use pico on our system, since vi is terrible. The docs say that pico is a stand-alone text editor. Does this mean I can get it by itself (without PINE)? I did not see pico at the ftp site. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :) _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- ____ . _ . --- /# /_\_ |\_|/__/| --- | |/o\o\ / / \/ \ \ --- | \\_/_/ /__|O||O|__ \ HAPPY --- / |_ | |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | HAPPY --- | ||\_ ~| | | (____) | || --- | ||| \/ \/\___/\__/ // --- | |||_ (_/ || JOY --- \// | | || JOY --- || | | ||\ --- ||_ \ \ //_/ --- \_| o| \______// --- /\___/ __ || __|| --- / ||||__ (____(____) --- (___)_) /***********\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 11:46:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24073; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10710; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:35:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10702; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:35:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPxBd-000006C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 1michael@netcom.com (Michael Orland) Subject: Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1michaelCt5BqE.JAD@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:11:02 GMT Does anyone know when Pine 3.90 will be released? Forgive me if this question has already been discused into the ground. -- Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com -- /////////////// //////////// Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com /// /// /// // // /// /// /// // // "Room service? Send up a larger room" /// /// /// //////////// - Groucho Marx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 13:13:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27714; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:13:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02527; Mon, 18 Jul 94 12:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from halcyon.halcyon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02521; Mon, 18 Jul 94 12:57:29 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA01794 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:57:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:57:28 -0700 From: Ralph Sims Message-Id: <199407181957.AA01794@halcyon.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disallowing pine to be suspended vai ctrl-z Not being a codesmith, I need a pointer as to where and what to change to disallow pine to be placed in the background. I thought it would not do that if the -z flag weren't used, but it appears that enabling 'feature old-growth' bypasses the commandline flag. I don't mind doing this in the pine.conf file, but we've enabled all the rich features to cover all those users that think they need them. Administratively, it would benefit us to disallow ctrl-z suspension, however. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 13:55:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29316; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13567; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:43:03 -