From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 00:09:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01284; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:09:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28597; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:03:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28591; Wed, 1 Jun 94 00:03:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 31 May 94 23:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lebel@IRO.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel) Subject: Pine on Solaris does a seg. fault... Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 03:08:50 GMT I've compiled Pine 3.89 for SunOS, DEC OSF/1 and Solaris, and I have some problems with the Solaris version. It does compile correctly, but when I run it, with a system-wide pine.conf in /usr/local/lib, Pine does a segmentation fault. When I remove the system-wide pine.conf file, Pine runs just correctly, however, without our domain defaults. If I execute the SunOS version under Solaris compatibility mode, it does indeed work, w/o any crash. For the sake of it, I downloaded the solaris binary from ftp.cac.washington.edu and I get the exact same result. Running the SunOS binary under compatibility mode isn't a solution here, we need a native binary under Solaris. And we can't live without a system-wide pine.conf file. Any hints? -- David Lebel | Sous-gradue', assistant technique et URL http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~lebel | administrateur du Web au DIRO, UdeM "Oh I don't know why people lie, and I don't know why people die. Every time you see me you shout at me, `cause of all the things in the world that I can't see. " - New Order, _Broken Promise_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 02:31:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04108; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:31:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00865; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:23:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00859; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:23:08 -0700 Received: from charlie.socs.uts.EDU.AU by lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA27272 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:22:56 +1000 Received: by charlie.socs.uts.EDU.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03912; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:22:37 EST Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:20:21 +1000 (EST) From: Anand Kumria Subject: compression ... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9406010918.AA03902@shivams.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, would it be possible for you guys to include compression in your program, I like to keep my sent mail -- but obviously I'm not looking at it all the time. So could PINE be extended so that it compress the sent-mail folder at the start of the month (when it gives it a new name). Regards, Anand. PS: What day is the summer soltice -- those of us in oz are in winter. -----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------- /\ | akumria@socs.uts.edu.au *preferred* / \ | akumria@banksia.uts.edu.au / \ | Anand.Kumria@f218.n711.z3.fidonet.org / \ | / Kumria \ | "Chaotic order, ---/----------\--- | ordered chaos" / \ | -- Anand Kumria / \ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 02:52:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04471; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:52:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01228; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01222; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skippy@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Andrew McColl) Subject: Pine Filter ?? Date: 1 Jun 1994 09:03:17 GMT Message-Id: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's something similar with Pine. Skippy -- skippy@lethe.uwa.edu.au University of Western Australia "That which does not kill us Perth, Western Australia Must have missed." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:02:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04631; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01340; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01334; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:54:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 02:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk (B. Landy) Subject: Re: Can pine...? Date: 1 Jun 1994 09:45:40 GMT Message-Id: <2shlc4$j45@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >On 1 Jun 1994, Mark Aitchison - Physics and Astronomy Computologist wrote: > >> I use pine on a Unix system, but don't know if I have the latest version (it >> mentions 3.0 at the start), and haven't tried any pc versions. That doesn't >> stop me from asking lots of idiot questions, though... ;-) so here goes: >> >> 1) Is there an OS/2 version of pine (one that interacts with OS/2's own >> sendmail, perhaps, in place of LaMail, and supports drag-and-drop)? >> > >Not yet. We do not have any plans to do an OS/2 port, but there have been >several requests for one... > However, IBM's TCPIP for OS2 includes a winsock package for DOS boxes under OS/2, so the planned Winsock version will (should) also work under OS/2. When is the planned availability of that, by the way? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0223-334713 +44-223-334713 -- ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:22:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05173; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:22:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01718; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01704; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:14:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gjfec@westminster.ac.uk (gjfec) Subject: Mailing probs Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:56:45 GMT I wonder if anybody can help me iam having a lot of difficulty trying to mail news articles to myself and then to print themn out Iam using the 'rn' newsreader Please help me because i really have tried everything thing else open to me Carl gjfec@westminster.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 03:42:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05556; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02023; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:34:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02017; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:34:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 03:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? Date: 1 Jun 1994 10:16:16 GMT Message-Id: <2shn5g$4uo@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2sd80h$q3b@crl.crl.com> <2sgggk$fqd@inca.gate.net> >: Is there an easy way to read word-processing files into pine mail? I go >: through a multi-step process (outlined below). Even doing this, for some >: reason I often lose the last line or so of the file. This is what I do: >: 1. Save the wp51 file as ascii text. >: 2. Upload to server. >: 3. Convert to unix, using "dos2unix (filename) > (new filename)". This >: is necessary to get rid of the ^M's. I've been reading about ASCII uploads/downloads on another newsgroup, and the consensus was that if you transfer the file in ASCII rather than as a binary file (as Kermit and I think Zmodem do) the end-of-line problem is taken care of. Procomm at least provides the opportunity to make an ASCII upload. I find I can't use it while in Pine because it comes out as scrambled eggs. (Though if I send the eggs, they reach the adressee unscrambled.) So I more often upload to the Unix shell, pico the file, then go into Pine and insert it with Ctrl R. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:08:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11252; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:08:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06495; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06489; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:59:50 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA19742; Wed, 1 Jun 94 22:59:36 +0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 22:59:36 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine Filter ?? To: Andrew McColl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Jun 1994, Andrew McColl wrote: > Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used > with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's > something similar with Pine. The "filter" program just happens to come with elm. It has no connection whatever with elm. The same goes for the other popular filter program procmail. Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:15:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11545; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:15:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18085; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:05:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netop3.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18079; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:05:12 -0700 Received: by netop3.harvard.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA28124; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:08:16 -0400 Received: from folly.gsd0.harvard.edu by gsd.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15581; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:08:26 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:08:26 EDT From: wmahoney@venus.gsd.harvard.edu (William Mahoney) Message-Id: <9406011508.AA15581@ gsd.harvard.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:19:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11599; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:19:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06764; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:11:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06743; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:11:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 07:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: Pine Documentations Date: 1 Jun 1994 14:51:44 GMT Message-Id: <2si7a0$l6c@garuda.csulb.edu> Can some tell me where I can get pine documention on how to use pine? I looking for something beyond the basics, like signature files or whatever. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 08:56:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13174; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19131; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:44:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ben.Britain.EU.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19123; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:44:46 -0700 Received: from praxis.co.uk by ben.britain.eu.net via PSS with NIFTP (PP) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:44:35 +0100 Received: from cantor.praxis.co.uk by leibniz.praxis.co.uk (5.61/UK-2.1) id AA20302; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:44:43 +0100 From: Mike Chace Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:45:02 +0100 Message-Id: <22471.9406011545@cantor.praxis.co.uk> Received: by cantor.praxis.co.uk (5.61/UK-2.1) id AA22471; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:45:02 +0100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unsubscribe unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:14:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14247; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07870; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07864; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:56:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ericr@access1.digex.net (Eric Rosenberg) Subject: Pine for AUX? Date: 1 Jun 1994 11:02:45 -0400 Message-Id: I'm trying to convince my system operator to use Pine, but he says it isn't available for AUX (Apple's flavor of Unix). Is this true? If it is available, where can we get it ... Thanks -- Eric ericr@vita.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:23:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14750; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:23:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08377; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:06:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08366; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:06:42 -0700 Received: (meyer@localhost) by frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu (8.6.9/8.6.5.Beta7) id JAA04079; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:41 -0700 From: "David M. Meyer 503/346-1747" Message-Id: <199406011606.JAA04079@frostbite-falls.uoregon.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please unsubscribe (Sorry to send to the list) Please unsubscribe me. Sorry I'm sending this to the list, but I've had no luck otherwise. Thanks, Dave David M. Meyer Voice: +1-503-346-1747 Senior Network Engineer Pager: +1-503-342-9458 Office of University Computing Cellular: +1-503-954-1103 Computing Center FAX: +1-503-346-4397 University of Oregon Internet: meyer@ns.uoregon.edu 1225 Kincaid Eugene, OR 97403 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:46:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15462; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:46:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09000; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08994; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine Filter ?? Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2shisl$cb@styx.uwa.edu.au> The Elm filter program works equally well with Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jun 1994, Andrew McColl wrote: > Hi Im interested in whether or not there's a filter which can be used > with pine. I know about the one for ELM and I was wondering if there's > something similar with Pine. > > Skippy > -- > skippy@lethe.uwa.edu.au > University of Western Australia "That which does not kill us > Perth, Western Australia Must have missed." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 09:49:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15531; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:49:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09008; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09002; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:36:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for AUX? Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: He is correct. There is a partial port for A/UX in the distribution, but no one has completed it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jun 1994, Eric Rosenberg wrote: > I'm trying to convince my system operator to use Pine, but he says it > isn't available for AUX (Apple's flavor of Unix). > > Is this true? If it is available, where can we get it ... > > Thanks -- > Eric > > ericr@vita.org > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 10:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16031; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21033; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:48:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from beaver.cs.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21027; Wed, 1 Jun 94 09:48:49 -0700 Received: from harvard.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by beaver.cs.washington.edu (8.6.8/7.1be+) with UUCP id JAA28103 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 09:33:16 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by harvard.harvard.edu (5.54/a0.25) (for cac.washington.edu!pine-info) id AA07944; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:07:32 EDT Received: from news.cs.utexas.edu by im4u.cs.utexas.edu (5.64/1.44/uucp) with SMTP id AA26144; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:07:19 -0500 Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by news.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA11015 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:06:58 -0500 Received: from seraph.uunet.ca (via uunet.ca) by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AAwsku17694; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:07:10 -0400 Received: from moore by mail.uunet.ca with UUCP id <98503-3>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:06:47 -0400 Received: by moore.com (4.1/smail2.5/01-12-90) id AA06853; Wed, 1 Jun 94 08:59:00 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 08:58:58 -0400 From: Paul Maclauchlan Subject: Re: Yet another plea for pine-info in DIGEST format To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 May 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > In the time space of approx. 10 hours, I have received exactly 39 > email messages from this list (most of them asking "how do I do this? > Where's the FAQ?"). I (and Australia?) haven't got comp.mail.pine yet, so > I don't know if this message is being sent to the newsgroup. Please > ignore if you are reading this through news. I must agree with Simon. The volume on the mail list is approaching the intolerable level. I subscribe to pine-info to hear from the Pine Development team *information* about Pine, development, administration and support. I believe the decision to interface the newsgroup and the mailing list was not correct. Mail isn't news and mailing lists and newsgroups are different beasts. Can the powers that be please consider: 1. Killing the auto-interface between the list and newsgroup or 2. Implementing a pine-announce or pine-admin mailing list where discussion of signature file dashes, usage questions and general chit chat are discouraged? I don't mind reading the mailing list and keeping up with comp.mail.pine, but I dislike having a newsgroup in my mailbox. I would like to see this happen *before* the inevitable cross-posted flame war engulfs my mail spool! -- .../Paul Maclauchlan Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 360-4761 paul@moore.com -or- {...!uunet.ca,...!telly}!moore!paul "I can gather all the news I need from the weather report."/PS'72 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 10:28:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16840; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:28:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21705; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:16:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21698; Wed, 1 Jun 94 10:16:43 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <26772-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:27 +0100 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:24 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? To: Bob Curtis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 31 May 1994 19:16:36 -0400 Bob Curtis wrote: > I'd like to do the same thing, but the command "dos2unix" is not > available on my system. FTPing the file up to your Unix system in ASCII mode (the default for FTP) should convert DOS CR-LF end-of-line sequences to Unix LFs. DOS2UNIX is part of PC-NFS and is used if you NFS-mount your Unix home directory as a DOS drive (then you save the WP file in ascii mode on your NFS drive, DOS2UNIX it and ^Read it into Pine). Of course if you want to send your WP file as a WP-formatted document rather than as plain ASCII text you don't need any of this - just get it to your Unix host (in Binary format if using FTP) and Attach it to your message. And if you use PC-PINE you don't have all the messing around with FTP or NFS-mounted filesystems - ^R reads in from your DOS filesystem, and understands DOS file format. The downside is that, for me at least, PC-PINE doesn't work too well with Windows: it needs loads of free conventional memory, and requires a network stack like a house of cards and seems to slow down other processes' network access by an order of magnitude. Roll on the promised Winsock version. And keep up the good work David, Terry & Co! John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:26:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19078; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:26:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11520; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:18:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11514; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:18:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 1 Jun 1994 17:55:48 GMT Message-Id: <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> Terry Gray wrote in as follows: > > In considering how to handle text attachments, we had a very clear > > choice between: backwards compatibility for recipients who did not yet > > have MIME compliant software, and the integrity of the attachments. > > (Without some encoding, attachments would certainly be corrupted by > > certain mail gateways and/or mail delivery agents. Even text > > attachments.) > > > > In the end, the decision was made to favor integrity over backward > > compatibility. If an MTA will mangle a message with a 7-bit ASCII-TEXT attachment then, exactly, how does BASE64 encoding prevent that from happening? All I have to say is this: If 90% of the people I send mail to do not have MIME-compatible readers, then you've just encouraged (if not forced) me to NOT use Pine 90% of the time. That doesn't sound like a very good way to expand your user base... I generally resent programs (and programmers) that feel it's necessary to IMPOSE their views of 'correctness' on me and my work. All it takes is two vendors who decide to do something like that and suddenly I have two programs that won't work together. > > o It is common and uncontroversial for files to be uuencoded for > > Internet mail transmission, and then to be uudecoded outside of > > the recipient's mailer. The equivalent functionality is widely > > available for MIME encoding as well. (An example is John Myer's > > mpack/munpack program.) Yes, this is true. But my mailer doesn't ASSUME that uuencoding is necessary for ALL ATTACHMENTS!!! For instance, I have a friend that works for Bell Atlantic, and if my mailer automatically uuencoded attachments then I'd have to stop using the mailer. All instances of uuencode/decode are removed from their systems as they don't want people exchanging (possibly) virus-infected programs through e-mail. > > The real goal should be to get everyone into the MIME game as quickly > > as possible, so rather than trying to get Pine to move backwards and > > risk undermining the effort because of corrupted attachments, how 'bout > > leaning on the sites that don't yet provide a way for their clients to > > handle MIME? There you go again, trying to impose YOUR view of 'correctness' on the world. With the analogy of uuencoded attachments, do you really believe that a company like Bell Atlantic is going to take the time (and $$$) to change their corporate policy just so they can conform to YOUR idea of 'correct'-ness ?!? *I* think they'd just choose not to use your mailer... If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make both your (and our) lives much easier: Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. The only time incompatability is tolerated is when you're introducing an entirely different product (like the introduction of the Mac) and nobody's going to be using the 'old' stuff on the new systems... -Randy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:33:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19385; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:33:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11688; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11682; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:09 -0700 Received: by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:54 -0700 Received: by ListDist v0.2 for /usr/local/lib/pine-announce.cf Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18903; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:51 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11556; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00897; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:19:48 -0700 Reply-To: Terry Gray Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 11:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Pine Announcement Distribution Subject: Pine 3.90 Status X-Owner: pine-announce-request@cac.washington.edu X-To: pine-announce@cac.washington.edu For all of you bursting with curiousity, here's the latest on 3.90... I've been saying "late spring" (i.e. June 20th :) for the *beta* release of 3.90, and I think we'll be close to that goal, but won't quite make it. So think in terms of late June, but don't be too surprised if is slips into July. (Prudent planners should realize that we --unlike other s/w development groups-- have never been very accurate in our s/w schedule predictions and should adjust expectations accordingly.) Rest assured that there is plenty of smoke around here as the guys' fingers burn up the keyboards, but there are still a number of things we feel it is important to include that aren't done yet... There are several hundred changes since 3.89. Here's a preview of the major stuff: o Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: -Bounce (remail) -Flag (set message status) -Pipe (Unix only) -Select/Apply -Zoom -Setup/Options (pinerc config screen) o News posting o News subscription/unsubscription o Multiple address books o Postpone multiple messages o Customizable headers for Composer o Mailcap support o Improved support for multiple incoming message folders o always-use-alt-editor feature (except for editing headers) o All .pinerc features now settable from command line o Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) o Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete o Way to use current-working-directory for Export, ^R, etc. o And with any luck, a Winsock version of PC-Pine Select/Apply gives you "aggregate" operations, e.g. Select all messages from joe, then you can Apply message commands to the entire selection... Zoom lets you focus on just the selected messages. And now for the bad news. Here are some things we want as much as you do, but are not likely to make it into 3.90... o Additional MIME support, e.g. file typing map, resolving external refs o PEM/PGP (or equiv) support o External directory services access* o Kerberos support o RFC 1522 header encoding for 8bit charsets o Location independence of support files (e.g. .pinerc, .addressbook) o Offline support o Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) o Answered flag not set if Reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) o Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) o Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) o Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) * unless it is administratively disabled, you will be able to type the PIPE command and enter ";finger foo@bar" but we hope to do better than that in the future :) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 11:34:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19444; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:34:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23478; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23472; Wed, 1 Jun 94 11:24:26 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA07906 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:12:03 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA26843; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:50:52 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06133; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:57:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 13:50:46 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Paul Maclauchlan Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Paul Maclauchlan wrote: > > On Tue, 31 May 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > In the time space of approx. 10 hours, I have received exactly 39 > > email messages from this list (most of them asking "how do I do this? > > Where's the FAQ?"). I (and Australia?) haven't got comp.mail.pine yet, so > > I don't know if this message is being sent to the newsgroup. Please > > ignore if you are reading this through news. > > I must agree with Simon. The volume on the mail list is approaching the > intolerable level. > > I subscribe to pine-info to hear from the Pine Development team *information* > about Pine, development, administration and support. I believe the decision > to interface the newsgroup and the mailing list was not correct. Mail isn't > news and mailing lists and newsgroups are different beasts. > > -- > .../Paul Maclauchlan I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. Michael A. Naud Dept. of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:27:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21002; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:27:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:19:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24903; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:19:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id OAA00850; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree. The list shoudl be the list. The newsgroup shoudl be the newsgroup. Seperate them. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:57:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21843; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13948; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:49:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13940; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:49:36 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian_MacPhedran@engr.usask.ca (Ian MacPhedran) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Date: 1 Jun 1994 18:54:07 GMT Message-Id: <2silgf$cvq@tribune.usask.ca> References: <2sfbqi$p2r@post.its.mcw.edu> Dean Lois (dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know if there is a way to unrotate newsgroup articles that : are mailed to you? I've got several saved in a folder and can't figure : out how to unrotate them. : Thanks, : Dean M. Lois : dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu If you are on a UNIX system, you can do this: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' < folder_file | more where "folder_file" is the name of the folder with your ROT13'ed messages. Ian. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ian MacPhedran, Engineering Computer Centre, University of Saskatchewan. 2B13 Engineering Building, U. of S. Campus, Saskatoon, Sask., CANADA S7N 0W0 Phone: (306)966-4832 Fax: (306)966-8710 Email: Ian_MacPhedran@engr.USask.CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 12:57:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21857; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25588; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:46:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25582; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:46:40 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15133; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:46:16 EDT Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:44:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That is exactly why I voted against the newsgroup. Gatewaying the newsgroup back into the mailinglist is a "bad thing". But that is what folks voted for :-( I would not be unhappy if the folk running the mailinglist blocked posting from the newsgroup. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:12:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23191; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:12:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14627; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:06:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14621; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:06:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbarber@eskimo.com (Putnam Barber) Subject: replying (arrangement of text) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 14:34:56 GMT Thinking that repeating the old is lower priority than expressing the new, I have been arranging replies to e-mail by starting with new stuff, then including (edited) incoming, and concluding with included text from files or attachments (if any). In general, I try to avoid the point-by-point interpolated format unless specifically engaged in commenting on a text. Correspondents on my local group have politely objected, saying they prefer to be reminded of the context first, then see the reply. (One writer also pointed out that old-first new-second encourages people to 'prune' the old, which he regards as both intellectually and technically proper.) I would be +much+ happier with this arrangement if there were a way to search for the first line that +does not+ contain a > in column 1. Even better, IMHO, would be a standardized flag in line one (or the header) of a reply that announced the presence of "old" text and allowed those who prefer old-first new-second to jump to the old, then back to line 1 (as 3.90 will reportedly allow) to read the new. I agree that not knowing whether there is, in fact, any old text appended is uncomfortable. But I also find paging through old (and familiar) material tiresome, even when it's been pruned. What to do what to do? Life is soo full of choices! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:17:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23442; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:17:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26375; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from medusa.unm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26369; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:09:18 -0700 Received: from MEDUSA.UNM.EDU by MEDUSA.UNM.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #5028) id <01HD14949ZGG000V8E@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:17:58 MDT Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 14:15:21 -0600 (MDT) From: "Stephen F. Day, UNM MCCS" Subject: RE: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 01 Jun 1994 14:25:24 -0500 (CDT)" To: Pine Info Cc: "Stephen F. Day, UNM MCCS" Message-Id: <01HD14D6KZQC000V8E@MEDUSA.UNM.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > I agree. The list shoudl be the list. The newsgroup shoudl be the > newsgroup. Seperate them. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu Amen! The recent traffic is unbearable!! If something cannot be done soon, it's likely that many of us will ask to be unsubscribed from the list, leaving the newsgroup groupies to babble on amongst themselves.... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stephen F. Day (SFD7) AT&TNET: (505) 277-1698 Director BITNET/CREN: SDAY@MEDUSA Medical Ctr Computer Services INTERNET: sday@medusa.UNM.EDU University of New Mexico TECHNET: UNMSDAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:36:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23915; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15198; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15181; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:30:00 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA21915; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:30:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:22:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted To: Randy Zagar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 1 Jun 1994, Randy Zagar wrote: > All I have to say is this: If 90% of the people I send mail to do not have > MIME-compatible readers, then you've just encouraged (if not forced) me to > NOT use Pine 90% of the time. That doesn't sound like a very good way to > expand your user base... I certainly do *not* speak for the Pine group, but I personally think that even if I don't think they are necessarily going in the right direction, they have certainly provided more than adequate arguments to support the way they feel, and I respect that. And I don't think that I recall seeing "expanding our user base" anywhere in the Pine manifesto. > If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make > both your (and our) lives much easier: > > Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. > > Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's > clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. OK, let's take your suggestion to deal with things as they are. Neither the Pine team nor the University of Washington is a major computer company. Ultimately, their only responsibility is to the users at that site. Through their unbounded generosity, they have made their work (and support) available to the rest of us at no cost. Even if I'm not 100% happy with Pine (I would say I'm 98% happy with it), I'd have to say that that's a pretty good deal. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 13:38:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23987; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:38:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26930; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:31:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from utdallas.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26924; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:31:16 -0700 Received: from frog.utdallas.edu by utdallas.edu (ZMailer 2.1.3 #231) with BLIMP id <14245>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:31:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. From: Billy Barron To: manaud@hydra.naz.edu (Michael A. Naud) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:31:08 -0500 Cc: harvard!moore.com!paul@beaver.cs.washington.edu, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au, pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Michael A. Naud" at Jun 1, 94 12:50:46 pm X-Www-Page: http://www.utdallas.edu/acc/billy.html X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 892 Message-Id: <94Jun1.153112cdt.14245@utdallas.edu> In reply to Michael A. Naud's message: > >I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from >this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been >added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the >documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The >mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I >want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. > No, I disagree 100%. To be honest, I hated the old mailing list. I'm pretty anti-mailing list except when it is a small group of people that keep signal and almost no noise (I found the old pine list to be mostly noise to me). I don't want to have to keep my subscription to the mailing list now that we have a newsgroup. -- Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas billy@utdallas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:17:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25182; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:17:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16082; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:05:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16076; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:05:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 13:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gelato@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu (Sergio Gelato) Subject: Re: bug in PINE Date: 1 Jun 1994 20:30:27 GMT Message-Id: <2sir53INNmhi@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <2s5r87$qed@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> In article <2s5r87$qed@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) writes: [Complains about =20 at the end of long lines in messages he sends out with Pine. His signature ends with:] > "Videmus nunc per speculum in ‘nigmate.... Nunc cognosco ex parte" ^ Note the non-ASCII character here (octal 221). This is enough to trigger quoted-printable encoding if included in a Pine message. Quoted-printable encoding will turn any space at the end of a line into an =20. Pine's editor will leave a space when automatic wraparound occurs. (I have been annoyed by this "feature" before, by the way. Yes, it is nice when you want to join the two lines again, but that rarely happens, and in any case an explicit "join" command could take care of it. Most of the time, those spaces really ought to be removed, either when the line is split or when the editor is exited. The latter might be tricky to implement as it would require the editor to tag these spaces so that it can remove them but leave any blanks the user explicitly wanted.) -- Sergio Gelato gelato@cornell.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:32:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25817; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:32:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16586; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:25:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16579; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:25:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g-omran@otter.cs.yorku.ca (Ragab A. Omran) Subject: Re: need ref. Message-Id: <2349@yetti.UUCP> Date: 1 Jun 94 20:16:00 GMT References: <1994May26.174804.12824@alw.nih.gov> In article <1994May26.174804.12824@alw.nih.gov>, blewis@alw.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes: |> Are there any good resources for use of "pine" available at an ftp site, |> man pages are okay but.... |> |> :-) |> Barb |> Hi Barb, try the following ftp sites: bongo.cc.utexas.edu /source/mail emx.cc.utexas.edu /pub/mnt/source/mail mcsun.eu.net /mail pith.uoregon.edu /pub/Sun4/bin hope that helps |> -- |> A breeze in the pines and the sun and bright moonlight, |> Lazing in the sunshine yes indeed... |> |> Sugar Magnola [Weir/Hunter] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Ragab Omran Department of Computer Science e-mail: g-omran@cs.yorku.ca York University 4700 Keele Street North York (Toronto), Ontario Canada, M3J 1P3 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 14:55:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26446; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:55:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17091; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:46:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from optima.CS.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17085; Wed, 1 Jun 94 14:46:45 -0700 Received: from wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU by optima.cs.arizona.edu (5.65c/15) via SMTP id AA17322; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:42 MST Received: (from jdavis@localhost) by wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.6.7/8.6.6) id OAA20942; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 14:46:38 -0700 (MST) From: Jim Davis Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Michael A. Naud" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Michael A. Naud wrote: > I agree 100%. On Tuesday, I had well over 250 messages, with most from > this list/news group. It seems that since the USENET group has been > added, a lot of the questions can be answered by actually READING the > documentation that comes with Pine, especially the help screens. The > mailing list was better in the past. I don't want to sound elitest, but I > want the old mailing list back. The newsgroup should remain separate. The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you vote against it? Or vote at all? As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:31:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27544; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:31:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29559; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:24:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29553; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:24:25 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA13476; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:24:30 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:13:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Reply-To: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Jim Davis Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a > bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and > comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it > shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the > bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you > arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you > vote against it? Or vote at all? I will admit I did not vote at all. I performed this non-action mainly because (a) I ignorantly assumed that it would not make that much difference in s/n ratio, and (b) I would not be reading it and would still be on the mailing list, mainly because the newsfeed to my site is, shall we say, less than adequate. (To give you an idea, neither site I read news from even has this newsgroup yet.) I did not consider the consequences of what would happen to the traffic once this happened. As a result of this bidirectional gateway, my email box has been flooded with quesitons about signatures, ftp-ing, news software, filters, forwarding, and many other things that have little or no importance to Pine and do not belong in a Pine newsgroup. And I can see now that we are going to continue to get these questions over and over again. > As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's > hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes > (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always > unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* be on this mailing list. The current noise level is absolutely unbearable. I suggest that either there be a very *long*, frequently-posted FAQL to answer most novice questions and tell them what is and is not considered a legitimate Pine question, or moderate the newsgroup. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:36:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27765; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:36:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29651; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:27:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from madmacs.macarthur.uws.EDU.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29643; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:27:45 -0700 Received: by madmacs.macarthur.uws.edu.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA13419; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:27:44 +1100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:27:07 +22311043 (E ) From: Brian Kalabric Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 15:51:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28317; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18532; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:44:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18526; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:44:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: x94juhta@ida.liu.se (Juha Takkinen) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Message-Id: <1994Jun1.175931.27681@ida.liu.se> References: <2sfbqi$p2r@post.its.mcw.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:59:31 GMT dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu (Dean Lois) writes: >Does anyone know if there is a way to unrotate newsgroup articles that >are mailed to you? I've got several saved in a folder and can't figure >out how to unrotate them. >Thanks, >Dean M. Lois >dmlois@outreach.its.mcw.edu With "unrotate" I presume you mean "decode". On Unix(tm) i suggest you do like this: - save the message you want to decode in a file (infile.txt in example below) - write the following line in an ordinary text file and save it as "decode" (or some other name at your liking): tr "[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]" "[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]" < infile.txt > outfile.txt - make sure that you don't have an old file named "outfile.txt" (remove it, if you have) - give the command source decode at the Unix(tm) prompt. - read the result (decoded text) in outfile.txt. "tr"-hint borrowed from "The Whole Internet" by Ed Krol, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. 1992, pp. 145-146 (recommended as good reading). There's probably an easier way (you can, for example, try to get your news reader to read your mail/text file instead of the ordinary news file), but it works. ;^D By the way, the ROT13 code is merely the alphabet rotated 13 letters. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- postcards to Mr. Juha Takkinen email c90juhta@und.ida.liu.se Rydsvagen 140 C voice +46 13 17 90 22 S-582 48 LINKOPING SWEDEN -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:06:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28749; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00560; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:59:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00554; Wed, 1 Jun 94 15:59:14 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HD1803VR408ZHV5U@asu.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 16:01:56 MST Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 15:58:17 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Why can't I unsubscribe? In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi Has anyone had problems unsubscribing from this mailing list? I've done it twice already, via the majordomo mechanism, and I still keep getting mail.... Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:41:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29665; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:41:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01465; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:35:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01459; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:35:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA12095; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:41:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:41:16 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > The comp.mail.pine CFV, and now charter, specified that there would be a > bidirectional gateway between the pine-info mailing list and > comp.mail.pine. That information was posted to the pine-info list, so it > shouldn't surprise anyone. And the comp.mail.pine proposal, including the > bidirectional gateway, passed by a healthy margin. I don't remember you > arguing against the proposal in news.groups, or on pine-info. Did you > vote against it? Or vote at all? I did bring up on news.groups that sending the group to the list would be a problem, but it appeared to get buried under the Greencard Lawyer thread or some other such nonsense. I also did vote yes because a pine group WAS needed to compliment comp.mail.elm, but I also posted my strong reservations about bi-directional porting of news postings. I am seriously concerned that as the newgroup message propogates (it hasn't even gotten here yet), this list will become absolutely unbareable. Some possible solutions: A) remove porting B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ document won't help at all). D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but others are different. E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > As to the signal-to-noise ratio, pine is a MUA novices can use. It's > hardly surprising that novices will ask questions about it, even sometimes > (unfortunately) questions answered in the online help. You can always > unsubscribe to the mailing list if this is such a burden. saying "go away if you don't like it" is a poor attitude, IMHO. If there is a problem that was unforseen or not considered very well, one is supposed to FIX it, not say "cope". A bug is only a feature at Microsoft. This is the real world :-) ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 16:55:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29920; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:55:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01721; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:47:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01715; Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:47:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id SAA12455; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:53:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:53:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Where to get ROT13 To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For those that don't wanna mess with tr or sed or whatever other goffy things UNIX can do, here's the C source to ROT13: ---ROT13.c --- #include main() /* streamlined version of copy input to output */ { int c; while ((c =getchar()) !=EOF) { if( c>= 97 && c <= 109 ) c=c+13; else if( c >= 110 && c <= 122 ) c=c-13; else if( c >= 65 && c <= 77 ) c=c+13; else if( c >= 78 && c <= 90 ) c=c-13; putchar(c); } } -- end of file -- I did an archie search and got the above from the following site: Host etext.archive.umich.edu Location: /pub/CPSR/crypto/tools/other FILE -rw-r--r-- 223 Aug 15 1993 rot13.c.gz Location: /pub/CPSR/privacy/crypto/tools/other FILE -rw-r--r-- 223 Aug 15 1993 rot13.c.gz ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 18:10:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02349; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:10:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21651; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:02:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21645; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:02:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 17:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: changing default editor Date: 2 Jun 94 00:56:41 GMT Message-Id: References: beta@eskimo.com (Nick Moffitt) writes: >n9246286@gonzo.cc.wwu.edu (Am-mit) writes: > >>Anyone know how I can change the default editor from pico to vi? >>(i've noticed editing my .pinerc file doesn't seem to work). > >> > > Indeed, I am also wondering how one changes ones nn editor from edit to >pico. The way I set up nn (6.4.16 and on, all versions to present), it tracks the environment variable EDITOR. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 18:21:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02568; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:21:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03809; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03803; Wed, 1 Jun 94 18:13:55 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HD1CP4R2FK8ZMWU4@asu.edu>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:16:39 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113196>; Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:13:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 18:13:27 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Accessing remote inbox without password To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Can someone please tell me whether it is possible to run Pine on machine "A" and then have it access an inbox on machine "B", without prompting for a username and password? (Without Kerberizing Pine, that is.) I created a .rhosts on machine "B" and specified machine "A" and my username on machine "A" in it. (Both machines are running SunOS 4.1.3.) When I try 'rlogin "B", I get prompted for a Password. When I try 'rsh "B"' I get "Permission denied." Incidentally, the hosts.equiv file on "B" is empty. Worse, trying to rlogin to "A" from anywhere results in the following: login: illegal option -- r usage: login [-fp] [username] Connection closed. Rsh to "A" works, but with the following warning: stty: TCGETS: Operation not supported on socket Thanks much. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 19:12:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03097; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:12:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22772; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22764; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:01 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11896; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:07:00 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PGP (was Pine 3.90 Status) (fwd) Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this was intended for the list... -teg ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 21:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Kevin Nichols To: Terry Gray Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 Status On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > > o PEM/PGP (or equiv) support > > -teg I know in the Post it says that PGP will NOT be intergrated into PINE 3.90 , But i am looking for something ( like a script ) , that will let PINE 3.88 use PGP as an option . Currently i am looking for ANYTHING that will make the use of PGP with PINE 3.88 running under SUN 4.2 UNIX ,Not such a major task . So , if there is anyone out there with PGP that KNOWS who to use it with pine , Please E-mail me with an FTP location , Or any ideas where i should look for a script , program OR , hack ! Thanks in advance . . ___ . * ._ _ ._ _ |_ | _ | _ _ ._ _ -+- _ _ . . * Delaware's ONLY * | `|_)| || `| ||(_||(_`(_`| ||_) | | `/ \|V| * PUBLIC * | |_,| ||_,| ||___ ._)._)| ||_, |_o|_,\_/||| * InterNet Connection From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 19:49:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03717; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:49:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23377; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23371; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:42:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmr@bu.edu (Rob Rosengard) Subject: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 2 Jun 1994 02:28:39 GMT Message-Id: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. Thanks, RMR@BU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:02:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03877; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:02:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05347; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05337; Wed, 1 Jun 94 19:57:13 -0700 Received: from sally.socs.uts.EDU.AU by lucy.socs.uts.EDU.AU with SMTP id AA08377 (5.67a/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:24:50 +1000 Received: by sally.socs.uts.EDU.AU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19444; Thu, 2 Jun 94 12:55:53 EST Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:52:04 +1000 (EST) From: Anand Kumria Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Jim Davis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might > or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed > software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* > be on this mailing list. Don't people ever read when they subscribe -- there is a seperate mailing list called pine-annouce which sounds like exactly what you are looking for. About things in the future, here is something which i'd like added to pine. Compression. Compression of of sent-mail when the month changes and another file is created -- as I hardly look at these file (but do from time to time) I wouldn't mind waiting while pine decompressed the files for me to look at and then recompressed them when i had finished. Regards, Anand. PS: sorry if this got posted twice -- problem with news <-> mailing lists at my site. -----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------- /\ | akumria@socs.uts.edu.au *preferred* / \ | akumria@banksia.uts.edu.au / \ | Anand.Kumria@f218.n711.z3.fidonet.org / \ | / Kumria \ | "Chaotic order, ---/----------\--- | ordered chaos" / \ | -- Anand Kumria / \ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:49:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04384; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:49:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24401; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24395; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:42:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:28:11 GMT Message-Id: References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <2sii34$o3r@news.udel.edu> Randy Zagar (zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu) wrote: : Terry Gray wrote in : : as follows: : > > In considering how to handle text attachments, we had a very clear : > > choice between: backwards compatibility for recipients who did not yet : > > have MIME compliant software, and the integrity of the attachments. : > > (Without some encoding, attachments would certainly be corrupted by : > > certain mail gateways and/or mail delivery agents. Even text : > > attachments.) : > > : > > In the end, the decision was made to favor integrity over backward : > > compatibility. : If an MTA will mangle a message with a 7-bit ASCII-TEXT attachment : then, : exactly, how does BASE64 encoding prevent that from happening? Funny, I heard him say "even text attachments". I don't see where he said "7-bit ASCII-TEXT". Would you care to point out where Terry says that??? : vendors who decide to do something like that and suddenly I have two : programs : that won't work together. Don't forget...the University of Washington...(or is it Washington University??? :-) ) is not a vendor. They should not be thought of or treated as such. : There you go again, trying to impose YOUR view of 'correctness' on the : world. With the analogy of uuencoded attachments, do you really : believe : that a company like Bell Atlantic is going to take the time (and $$$) : to change their corporate policy just so they can conform to YOUR idea : of 'correct'-ness ?!? And, if they go along with what you have to say are they not conforming to *your* view of "correctness"? And what makes your view of "correctness" more correct than their view? : *I* think they'd just choose not to use your mailer... Considering the huge sums of money they are paying for the UA..... : If you guys would follow this one guideline, it'll make : both your (and our) lives much easier: : Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. Hummmm....I didn't know things were so black and white. Again, "as they ARE" is only a perception. I may not always agree with what the pine team does....but I applaud them for having a clear and well thoughout reason for their decisions. -- Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 20:57:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04481; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24555; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24549; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chester@access.digex.net (D Mc Intire) Subject: Re: Editing with Pine/Pico Date: 1 Jun 1994 23:26:41 -0400 Message-Id: <2sjjhh$q3u@access3.digex.net> References: <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In article <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, David Sang-shin Lee wrote: >I often access my mail from home by using Telnet 2.6 (Macintosh) to a >campus UNIX machine. I run Pine 3.89 to access my campus IMAP server and >get my mail. > >My question is this: I haven't been able to use the "mark" feature in >the Pine email editor (and Pico file editor) on my Macintosh. When I use >non-Mac machines on campus, if I type ctrl-^ there is no problem. When I >try to do the same thing from my Mac at home, I get the character "6". > >Any insights out there? Sorry if this is a FAQ; my Usenet site just >started receiving this group 3 days ago. > I don't have any problem with a pc. Are you using the control key, the shift key and and the key that has the six on it together. I had a problem understanding what ctrl-^ meant. -- ______ | \___? Lost and bewildered on chester@access.digex.net |__________| the information highway O O From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 21:07:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04674; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24693; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24687; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:02:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 20:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fosterpl@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Paul C. Foster) Subject: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> Date: 1 Jun 94 23:46:10 EST Does anyone know of a good IMAP client for Windows? Im fairly attached to Eudora and pop mail but a friend assures me that I will convert shortly. thanks paul =============================================================== = Internet: Paul.Foster@uc.edu Phone: 556-9021 = = Bitnet : Fosterpl@ucbeh.bitnet = = = = Quote of the day: = = Nothing befalls a man except what is in = = his nature to endure. = = = = --Marcus Aurelius = =============================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 21:18:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04909; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:18:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24874; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:12:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24868; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:12:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 1 Jun 94 21:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rvenable@alw.nih.gov (Rick Venable) Subject: pine hangs when "Sending mail" Message-Id: <1994Jun2.034946.10564@alw.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:49:46 GMT Pine keeps hanging up, that is it fails to respond to further keystrokes, once the "Sending mail" message appears; starting a second copy in another window frees up the first, and the mail is sent. It's very annoying behavior, and we may give up on pine as a mail client and stick with the "elm" that came with HP-UX. It's a bit clunky, but at least it works. Suggestions are welcome; we prefer pine, but can't accept this absurd file "locking" behavior, and can't find anything explicit about it in the docs. Help save a tree. -- Rick Venable =====\ |=| "Eschew FDA/CBER Biophysics Lab |____/ |=| Obfuscation" Bethesda, MD U.S.A. | \ / |=| rvenable@helix.nih.gov \/ |=| -- the Phantom Nerd From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 1 23:38:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06610; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:38:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26931; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26925; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:41 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14719; Wed, 1 Jun 94 23:30:40 -0700 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:30:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Randy Bush Subject: Gateway failure Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Apparently the gateway from pine-info to comp.mail.pine has broken in the mail->news direction (I wondered why comp.mail.pine was drying up already ;). The gateway maintainer and myself are working to remedy this problem. Sorry about the inconvenience. --DLM P.S. I am both mailing and posting this. Sorry about any duplication. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:18:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07173; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27568; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:11:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gw1.epmhs.gr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27562; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:11:32 -0700 Received: by epmhs.gr id AA19015 (5.67a8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:04:03 +0300 From: Nikos Passas Message-Id: <199406020704.AA19015@epmhs.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:04:02 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL5] Content-Length: 12 Content-Id: Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Charset: ELOT_928 X-Char-Esc: 29 unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:25:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07235; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:25:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09659; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09643; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:18:47 -0700 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <16943-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:15:14 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:17:37 +0100 (BST) From: Colette Monaghan Reply-To: Colette Monaghan Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: pine-info@edu.washington.cac In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > > I must agree with Simon [and Paul et al]. The volume on the mail > >list is approaching the intolerable level. I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable now, it was fine before. *************************************** Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk ************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:36:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07520; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:36:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09729; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sunstel.asu.cas.cz by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09723; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:23:05 -0700 Received: by sunstel.asu.cas.cz (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02998; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:22:22 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:22:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Petr Skoda Subject: Suggestion for improvement To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII At the beginning of each month pine asks about moving sent-mail folder to folder signed with month . But then it asks the deletion of the old sent-mail-month folder. I have all the old sent-mail folder archived, so it is annoying to answer several times No. Would it be possible implement an extension (Yes, No, All, Quit) for this question ( or others questions too?) ************************************************************************* * Petr Skoda Phone : +42-204-85201, ext. 361 * * Stellar Department +42-204-857361,857136 * * Astronomical Institute CAS Fax : +42-2-881611 * * 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz * * Czech Republic aststel@csearn.bitnet * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 00:39:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07563; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:39:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27870; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:32:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27864; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:32:51 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 00:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez042914@degas.ucdavis.edu (Rakarra) Subject: Re: Do you HAVE to use PICO with PINE? Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 07:14:01 GMT David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) babbled: : Pine 3.90 will have an option to allow you to enter the alternate editor : automatically when entering the body of the message, but the composer will : still be used for the headers. I believe earlier versions may contain this feature as well. I use version 3.89, and I can across the following in my .pinerc: # editor specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer. # This is normally an alternative to Pine's internal composer (Pico) editor= Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't a path to another editor here switch it from Pico to the other editor? -- Ian Westcott. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | The SilverDragon has his lair at: | "I can go to bed, now that I know | | ez042914@dale.ucdavis.edu | my underwear is in the hall." | | westcott@langmuir.cs.ucdavis.edu | - My RA | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:38:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11551; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:38:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13523; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:29:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dir.bris.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13517; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:29:12 -0700 Received: from adm1.bristol.ac.uk by dir.bris.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <26730-0@dir.bris.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:28:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:29:05 +0100 (BST) From: Dave King Subject: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone please advise me... 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) filename(s), etc. What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? 2. Is it possible to configure Pine 3.90 to run in a "Pine 3.89 compatibility mode", or gradually "switch on" the new features of Pine 3.90 with the system-wide configuration file? Thanks, Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:54:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11815; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:54:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01891; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:48:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@astro.ocis.temple.edu:Sam_McLane@compserv.ocis.temple.edu> Received: from astro.ocis.temple.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01885; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:48:28 -0700 Received: from compserv.ocis.temple.edu by astro.ocis.temple.edu (5.61/25) id AA21588; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:48:26 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by compserv.ocis.temple.edu id AA770568511 Thu, 02 Jun 94 07:48:31 EST Date: Thu, 02 Jun 94 07:48:31 EST From: Sam_McLane@compserv.ocis.temple.edu (Sam McLane) Message-Id: <9405027705.AA770568511@compserv.ocis.temple.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsub unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 04:55:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11846; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:55:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01873; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:47:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01867; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:47:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scsx01!siagacaa@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Becarios Pc-Pine) Subject: Inbox Path Date: 2 Jun 1994 11:58:05 GMT Message-Id: <2skhgd$j60@scdx01.sc.ehu.es> Hello. We've just put PINE into our campus network but we have a problem each time we want to use it. When we start PINE (PC-PINE) it asks us for the INBOX PATH where we want to receive the messages and of course we write it. Then PINE asks for storing this path and here comes the "bug": If we respond 'Yes' PINE stores the path into the PINERC file. Once the path has been stored then program runs correctly. Then we quit PINE and then we try to begin a new session. Now PINERC has the inbox path and PINE doesn't ask for it but !!it stops!!. In the screen we see "Opening INBOX" but PINE doesn't open anything, keyboard get stuck and we have to reset our PC. Of course if we say 'No' PINE asks for the INBOX PATH and there's no problems. The thing we want to avoid is writing the INBOX PATH each time we use PINE but if we store that path into PINERC, PINE stops. Is there an answer to this problem? Is it a bug in PINE? HELP !!!!!! Alberto Garcia Casas & Bruno Grilli Arrese-Igor (UPV-EHU, Spain) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:06:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12730; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:06:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14877; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:56:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netop3.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14871; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:56:48 -0700 Received: by netop3.harvard.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA05232; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 08:59:52 -0400 Received: from folly.gsd0.harvard.edu by gsd.harvard.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05869; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:00:03 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:00:03 EDT From: wmahoney@venus.gsd.harvard.edu (William Mahoney) Message-Id: <9406021300.AA05869@ gsd.harvard.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:24:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12988; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:24:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03147; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03141; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kgb@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) Subject: Re: ROT 13 Date: 2 Jun 1994 12:25:16 GMT Message-Id: <2skj3c$o9u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <1994Jun1.175931.27681@ida.liu.se> BTW in answer to the original post if you ROT 13 twice you get back the original encoded text (i.e. ROT 13 is it's own inverse). That's why it's ROT 13 as opposed to ROT 12 etc. -- 13 = 26/2 you see... --- Karl Glazebrook, email: kgb@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk Institute of Astronomy, finger: kgb@jhereg.ast.cam.ac.uk Cambridge, U.K. WWW: http://cast0.ast.cam.ac.uk/~kgb/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:25:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13009; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:25:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03139; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03130; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:16:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 07:20:21 CDT References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> In article <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh>, fosterpl@ucbeh.san.uc.edu (Paul C. Foster) writes: > Does anyone know of a good IMAP client for Windows? Im fairly attached to > Eudora and pop mail but a friend assures me that I will convert shortly. I'm running ECSMail and love it. Ask about how to get a demo copy from ecs-sales@edm.isac.ca "Craig Paul" (913-864-0412 Computer Center Academic Technical Support - Wide Area Networking - Net Security) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:26:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13045; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:26:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03185; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:17:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from indiv-gw.cent.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03179; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:17:51 -0700 Received: by individual.com (5.65c/Spike-2.1) id AA23237; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:17:28 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:11:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Anand Kumria Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Anand Kumria wrote: > > No, I cannot. I need to be privy to discussions about things that might > > or might not be added to the next version of Pine, ports, contributed > > software, announcements, etc. As a duty to the users at my site I *must* > > be on this mailing list. > > Don't people ever read when they subscribe -- there is a seperate mailing > list called pine-annouce which sounds like exactly what you are looking for. It may sound like it, but it isn't. pine-announce takes care of the "announcements" part of my list, but not anything else. I do read when I subscribe, BTW, and I knew about pine-anounce, but it will not cover everything I need to see. I need to be able to be part of discussions if the situation arises, I need to have some insight as to what is being considered and suggested, not just what will appear in the next release, etc. Pine-announce will not do all that for me. "Don't people ever read..." was a really nasty and unnecessary comment. I could have responded to fully one-third of the posts to this list since the newsgroup gatewaying began with that comment, but I didn't. I know what I need, and pine-announce isn't it. - Adam J Weitzman INDIVIDUAL, Inc. weitzman@individual.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 2 06:27:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13066; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03127; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:15:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03121; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:15:57 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weave@hopi.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling) Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: 2 Jun 1994 07:46:04 -0400 Message-Id: <2skgps$llr@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: In article , <@psg.com> wrote: > >I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable >now, it was fine before. Understandable, but at least keep the mail list flowing to news. I unsubscribed to the mail list after years on it and now read via the newsgroup and I love it. -- Ken Weaverling weave@dtcc.edu |*| My opinions .NEQ. college's position From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:32:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02040; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:32:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05273; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:15:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05267; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:15:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robert@tpe.ncm.com (robert) Subject: Latest Version, what/where Message-Id: <1994Jun2.135019.5584@tpe.ncm.com> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:50:19 GMT What is the current/latest version of pine/pico, and where can it be ftp'd from? Thanks, Robert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:34:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02111; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:34:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15865; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:55:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15859; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:55:42 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA20573; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:53:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:53:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Number of lines on the terminal screen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:57:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03082; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:57:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16521; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:33:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from himalia.pt.hk-r.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16515; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:33:37 -0700 Received: by himalia.pt.hk-r.se id AA16866 (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.4.2 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:28:16 +0200 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:27:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andy Eskilsson Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Ken Weaverling Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2skgps$llr@hopi.dtcc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > In article , > <@psg.com> wrote: > > > >I agree with this viewpoint. I am finding the level of mail intolerable > >now, it was fine before. > > Understandable, but at least keep the mail list flowing to news. I > unsubscribed to the mail list after years on it and now read via the > newsgroup and I love it. > Why not split the newsgroup into pine-info and pine-answers? Or have I missed some discussion? BTW I don't seem to be able to find the pine newsgroup, where is it? /andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 08:57:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03134; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:57:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04091; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04085; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:10:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu Subject: PC Pine and VMS filename problems Message-Id: <1994Jun2.074901.65050@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 2 Jun 94 07:49:01 CDT See vmsnet.mail.pmdf for problems using PC Pine with VMS machines, specifically mail file names with would have the $ character somewhere in the file specification (like sys$login:mail.mai) "Craig Paul" (913-864-0412 Computer Center Academic Technical Support - Wide Area Networking - Net Security) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:09:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03994; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:09:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18421; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:53:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sdac.harvard.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18415; Thu, 2 Jun 94 08:53:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (gaer@localhost) by sdac.harvard.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id LAA08433; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:53:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:53:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Arthur Gaer Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > I am seriously concerned that as the newgroup message propogates (it > hasn't even gotten here yet), this list will become absolutely unbareable. > > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > document won't help at all). > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > others are different. > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > digested distribution as well. I am in strong agreement with the above suggestion (quoted at length because I'm afraid the original will get lost in the tens of Pine messages coming through every day): A separate technical mailing list which won't be inundated with FFAQs would be quite useful for me (and, by extension, the users on my system) without my mailbox being flooded with a couple hundred messages every couple of days. Keeping up with Pine/mail development and technical/configuration issues is quite useful to me, seeing the same novice questions over and over is not. Since I can't really tell from the Subject lines which messages might be useful and which are asking, for the umpteenth time, about a mail filter program, I'm forced to wade through all these messages every morning--it's become a real time sink in only a week. Creating a separate mailing list will allow the current gated list to continue in existence, since this gating seems of importance to a few people. Meanwhile, I can get on with that part of my job that doesn't involve reading Pine FAQs, and I can always read the newsgroup should I feel so motivated. -- Art Gaer Unix Systems Analyst gaer@sdac.harvard.edu (617) 432-2521 Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Dept. of Biostatistics Harvard University, School of Public Health From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:27:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04830; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:27:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04604; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:41:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04591; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:41:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 06:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: plaws@comp..uark.edu (Peter Laws) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 2 Jun 1994 13:37:00 GMT Message-Id: <2skn9s$8d1@wizard.uark.edu> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> bcard@world.std.com (Bill Card) writes: >Unfortunately, I did not know that MIME would be used, and neither did my >correspondents. I got upset messages back, saying things like "please >don't encode the attachments". So now I use ^R, and everyone is pleased. >If MIME is to be the future standard, how do we all learn to use it? I'm confused here. The docs, online help, and context-sensitive help ALL say that 1) MIME will be used for all attachments 2) The recipient MUST HAVE MIME to read the attachments 3) If the recipient does not have a MIME-compatible mailer, s/he may have difficulty extracting the message _even_ _if_ _the_ _attachment_ _is_ _plain_ _text_!!! If Pine doesn't suit your needs, well, there must be a dozen other mailers you could use. All this bandwidth wasted because someone didn't RTFM ... :-) Peter - a happy Pine user since 1992 ... Peter Laws |"Let's make sure history never forgets the n5uwy@ka5bml.#nwar.ar.usa.noam | name ... Enterprise" ST:TNG - 1987-1994 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:28:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04873; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16753; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:45:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16747; Thu, 2 Jun 94 07:45:57 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA20736; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:43:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:43:14 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Randy Zagar , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Adam J Weitzman wrote: > > Deal with things as they ARE, not how you think they OUGHT to be. > > > > Most major computer companies pursue backwards compatability until it's > > clear that they're just whipping a dead horse. > > OK, let's take your suggestion to deal with things as they are. > I agree. Some input: How things are: - PINE uses MIME encoding for attachments, even if they are ASCII text. - UW has written PINE that way according to the requirements of their user community (i.e. the people that are paying them.) - ASCII text files can be included in any message via the control-R command from the PICO editor. Three ways to deal with things as they are: - Use the control-R command from the PICO editor when you want to enclose an ASCII text file. - Pay UW to include your requirements in their specifications. - Use another package. Seems pretty simple to me. I prefer the first - PINE is a VERY nice package and it's priced right in my budget range. My *THANKS* to the UW people for providing a very solid package at a VERY attractive price. AND for being as responsive as possible to a large crowd of critics... :{) Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 10:36:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07638; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:36:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08606; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:24:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08600; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:24:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 09:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bonnetf@esiee.fr (Frank Bonnet) Subject: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:31:50 +0200 Message-Id: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> Could somebody send me the official ftp site to get the PINE package ? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:25:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10159; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:25:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09908; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:13:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09902; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:13:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dragon@csulb.edu (Brian Lo) Subject: Pine Documentations Date: 2 Jun 1994 17:04:35 GMT Message-Id: <2sl3f3$bdv@garuda.csulb.edu> News From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:36:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10756; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:36:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10167; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:22:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10161; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:22:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .pinerc--what's in it? Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2sfq3h$kal@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Just over-writing a .pinerc (pine configuration) file will not damage any folders. They appear to disappear because various settings have been altered, though. Recover or regenerate the .pinerc and everything should be OK. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 31 May 1994, Leah wrote: > I was asked to help a client with the following problem (this is the e-mail > he sent me). > > > In a flash of stupidity I downloaded a file called .pinerc from > >another account into my account which contained a file by the same name. > >It seems that the one I downloaded replaced the one I had originally > >which resulted in me losing folders and saved messages I had in the pine > >program. However when I checked how much disk space i was using I notice > >that i was still using as much space as i was before i replaced the > >information which makes me think that the information is still there. Is > >there any thing i can do? > > > Please respond to my post if you have an answer. Thanks!!!! > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Leah J. Dicker College of Education > CCSO Microcomputer Consulting University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign > ****My opinions are my opinions.***** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:56:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11895; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:56:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10531; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:36:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10525; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:35:58 -0700 Received: from clyde.mcclellan.af.mil by smdis01.mcclellan.af.mil (5.61/sm5.2) with SMTP; id AA10310; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:35:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by clyde.mcclellan.af.mil (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06750; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:36:03 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 11:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Perdue Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree with Robert that another solution is needed. I would vote for option c (Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list). Even in the early stages the flame wars are already starting and the spams and other garbage posts are sure to follow. Another suggestion for people using the newsgroup would be to maintain a FAQ. It is alot easier to tell someone to read item x in the FAQ than to use the bandwidth to explain to a 100 or so people how to place their signature in an email. If the good folks at Pine would like the help I will volunteer to coordinate the FAQ. --- ____ _________________________________________ / ___| __ _ _ __ _ _ | Gary L. Perdue unix technical lead | | | _ / _` | '__| | | | | 652nd CCSG/SCCB McClellan AFB, Ca 95652 | | |_| | (_| | | | |_| | | Phone (916)643-4666 FAX (916)643-1526 | \____|\__,_|_| \__, | | email perdue@clyde.mcclellan.af.mil | |___/ |_________________________________________| -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system, and possibly program, of all time" - Bill Gates, Nov, 1987. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Some possible solutions: > > A) remove porting > B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > document won't help at all). > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > others are different. > E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to > do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as > they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can > already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:57:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11955; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:57:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23176; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23168; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:39:56 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <19059-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:39:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:39:17 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Arthur Gaer Cc: "Robert A. Hayden" , Pine Info X-Sender: suqstmbl@suma1.rdg.ac.uk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Arthur Gaer wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > > digested distribution as well. > > I am in strong agreement with the above suggestion ... > ... A separate technical mailing list which won't > be inundated with FFAQs ... Keeping up with Pine/mail > development and technical/configuration issues is quite useful to me, > seeing the same novice questions over and over is not. > ...it's become a real time sink in only a week. Agreed! John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:59:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12039; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:59:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23253; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:41:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23247; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:41:07 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA01392 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:26:54 -0400 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA01518; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:47:25 EDT Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA25130; Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:53:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:43:42 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Naud" Subject: Printing with VersaTerm on the Mac To: Pine Discussion Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Help. I use VersaTerm 5.0 for the Mac to connect to our mainframe to use Pine for UNIX. When printing out a long message from Pine, I always get garbled text to come out of my printer. It is never the same. Here is what I have tried to isolate the problem: use Pine 3.87, no luck use Pine 3.89, no luck use a serial connection to a term. server, no luck use the AppleTalk driver to connect via Ethernet, no luck turn off print monitor, no luck I will try it out with an ImageWriter to see if the problem persists. Does anyone have a clue? I'm sure someone out there is using a Mac, and someone should be using VersaTerm. Any help would be great. This has several of us in computer services stumped. I remember reading in the print screen that the attached-to-ansi had been tested with VersaTerm Pro. Am I missing some obvious setting? I would hate to switch to another terminal emulator, as all of the Mac people on campus use VersaTerm. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Michael A. Naud Dept. of Academic Computing ---- Michael A. Naud (716) 586-2525 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 586-2452 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-3980 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:14:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12608; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:14:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11234; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11224; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 10:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Unfortunately, there is a bug in Pine 3.89 that can cause damage to a Pine 3.90 .pinerc file if you use certain new features. Pine 3.90 will look virtually identical to pine 3.89 for the novice user. The major new features will need to be explicitly enabled, either per-user or globally. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > Could someone please advise me... > > 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine > 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) > filename(s), etc. > > What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? > > 2. Is it possible to configure Pine 3.90 to run in a "Pine 3.89 > compatibility mode", or gradually "switch on" the new features of > Pine 3.90 with the system-wide configuration file? > > > Thanks, > > Dave > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:18:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12734; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:18:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11243; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11236; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Latest Version, what/where Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun2.135019.5584@tpe.ncm.com> Version: 3.89 Site: ftp.cac.washington.edu Source: mail/pine.tar.Z PC binaries: mail/pcpine/*.zip Unix binaries: mail/unix-bin/* IMAP source: mail/imap.tar.Z (experimental) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, robert wrote: > What is the current/latest version of pine/pico, and where can it be ftp'd > from? > Thanks, Robert > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:18:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12744; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:18:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11252; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11244; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:57:17 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 11:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:40:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Give the command "stty rows 33" before entering Pine... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? > I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on > the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | > |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:04:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16462; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:04:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13779; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:52:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13773; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:51:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottt@storm.cs.orst.edu (Scott Tzibra Leah) Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: 2 Jun 1994 19:22:01 GMT Message-Id: <2slbgpINN7te@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> References: In article , <@psg.com> wrote: >Since I can't really tell from the Subject lines which messages might be >useful and which are asking, for the umpteenth time, about a mail >filter program Maybe it's because no one will anwser the question asked. Personally, I have had no trouble telling from the Subject lines what the posts are about. And until this group showed up in news, I didn't even know there was a mailing list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:11:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16794; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:11:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13993; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13984; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaguar1@netcom.com (Glen Wooten) Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:16:10 GMT @psg.com wrote: : How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? : I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on : the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? Pine doesn't do the terminal settings, your provider does. I ran into this before. I'm using a VT100 emulation, but I use a 50 line screen. It's probably in your login file somewhere, but with Unix you can use STTY to set the number of lines for the screen. However, in most cases, you will also have to reset the envelope, using the SETENV command. Otherwise, you'd get 33, 50 or whatever lines from the centre of you screen (not very useful.) Check the equivalent commands your system uses, but this method should work. -- jaguar1@netcom.com (alternate: g.wooten@genie.geis.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:14:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16895; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:14:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14002; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13994; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:29 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kurasaki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Stanley Kurasaki) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:50:50 GMT : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. Go into the .tin directory and edit the tinrc file and file the default_editor_format and change it to default_editor_format=pico +%N %F I hope this is what you are asking for and am not sure what you mean by other features. Stan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:14:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16904; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:14:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14010; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14004; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.J.Martinez@bradford.ac.uk (Wedge Antilles) Subject: address book query Message-Id: <1994Jun2.200825.24752@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:08:25 GMT A friend has mailed me with a list of addresses and I want to put them in my address book without having to type them in....can you help me??? I am working on a Sun Sparc with Unix... Dom -- /\_/\ d.j.martinez@bradford.ac.uk (o o) ' out on the peace ' ------------------------------oOO--(=)--OOo----------------------------- buryfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:45:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18059; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:45:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14792; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:32:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14786; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:32:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 13:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: davadam@eskimo.com (David Adam Edelstein) Subject: Re: Multiple mailing w/out mult. listing?!? Message-Id: References: <2s3amm$blp@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> <2s9pe5$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sdjlo$6gc@netaxs.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 20:36:09 GMT rak@netaxs.com (nobody special) writes: >Let me ask this: will the BCC field accept list aliases? Yes. Then, the list goes away when you turn off "rich header" (^R in the address field) very nice. --dae From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:54:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18503; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:54:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15085; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15077; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:43:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: Re: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:22:53 GMT Message-Id: <2slf2t$gpo@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> try ftp.cac.washington.edu -bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:14:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19406; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:14:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15590; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from upr2.clu.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15584; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:01:36 -0700 Received: by upr2.clu.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.13) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:20 EST Received: from mosquito.uwimona.edu.jm by xaymaca.uwimona.edu.jm (5.64/10.0) id AA29762; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:15:16 -0400 Received: by mosquito.uwimona.edu.jm (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01344; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:20:57 EDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:11:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Manison Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. To: Adam J Weitzman Cc: Jim Davis , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I thoroughly endorse Adam's comments. Our mail connection is via a UUCP dial up connection to Puerto Rico as we are not connected to the Internet. We don't get news of any description so the only way to keep abreast of PINE events is the mailing list. The bi-directional gateway has not only increased my "junk mail" but has significantly increased our telephone bill! ======================================================================== Keith Manison Phone (809)927-2253 Information Systems Strategic Planner (809)972-2781 Office of the Principal Fax (809)972-2156 University of the West Indies Email manison@uwimona.edu.jm Mona, Kingston 7, Jamaica W.I. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:18:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19578; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15666; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15660; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00314; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:04:45 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16506; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:05:21 -0700 Received: from panix.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26684; Thu, 2 Jun 94 14:01:04 -0700 Received: by panix.com id AA08081 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:11:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:10:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Saul Rabia To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 15:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: would someone tell me how to download the Help manual, or the Gen. Pine Info. etc. TKS. Saul S. Rabia From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:42:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20682; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16316; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16310; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu (Paul Campbell) Subject: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Date: 2 Jun 1994 15:18:17 -0600 Message-Id: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> using Pine 3.07 I currently am maintaining a list of people who share a common interest (in this case, modem games). I created a list of addresses using the add-to-list command, which places those names in the .addresslist? file in my root directory. To date, when I update, I simply mailed all of them using pine...addressing the nickname of the maillist instead of individually. No problem right?. Well, when I get feedback from the group, everyone else gets the email? I guess that's because all the email addresses are stuffed in the the "To: " line, right? I'm confused by it all!!! I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? thanks in advance! pc -- Paul W. Campbell 801-320-7777 Support Megahertz Corporation 801-320-8840 BBS 605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 801-320-6020 Fax Salt Lake City, UT 801-320-6220 Faxback From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:53:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20926; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:53:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16617; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16611; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:38:36 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umward10@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca (Derek Ward) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 2 Jun 1994 21:19:42 GMT Message-Id: <2slide$lto@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Rob Rosengard (rmr@bu.edu) wrote: : : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. I would like to know if there is way also. Please forward a copy of any replies to me. : : Thanks, : RMR@BU.EDU -- Derek Ward Computer Science III Co-Op U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:55:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21033; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:55:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29193; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from minnie.bell.inmet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29187; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:08 -0700 Received: by minnie.bell.inmet.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22562; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:43:01 PDT Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 15:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Tarr Subject: Pine Line Wrap Question To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Paul Tarr Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a question about long lines in mail received by pine that I have not seen covered in any of the documentation I have looked at. Sometimes I receive mail whose lines are much longer than the 80 characters or so displayed by pine. Pine displays the contents of the received mail correctly (by line wrap I presume) but when I try to print out the mail, our printer doesn't do the line wrap operation. Thus major portions of the mail message are lost. The problem is that there appears to be no way to determine in advance if this will be a problem since both wrapped and non-wrapped mail messages appear the same when displayed by pine. Is there some way to force pine to print what is displayed by inserting LF or LF/CR at the points where the line wrap occurs? This is a serious problem for me since I have to frequently clean up my disk space and assuming that the print operation works correctly has caused me to lose the contents of many mail messages. A related annoyance is the handling of wordwrap in forwarding or replies. When the character > is inserted in a reply, for example, the included message is not line wrapped in the pine display. In order to see the entire encluded message, the reply has to be edited by hand and additional > characters inserted. Is there any way to make this an automatic operation? I am using pine 3.89 on a SUN unix workstation and the precompiled binary pine program ftped from UW. CHEERS from Paul Tarr (pwt@minnie.bell.inmet.com) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:01:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21253; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:01:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16779; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16773; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robelr@indiana.edu (Allen Robel) Subject: Text formatting bug in Pine 3.89 for SunOS? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:40:30 GMT Hi, Sorry if this has been brought up before, but does anyone know when the bug that slides all text in a received mail note to the right in SunOS Pine 3.89 will be fixed? i.e. If you send me: This sentence it looks like: This sentence when I receive it. This is pretty frustrating when the text contains things like ASCII diagrams... Thanks! allen (robelr@indiana.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:01:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21262; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16787; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16781; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:48:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 15:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: robelr@indiana.edu (Allen Robel) Subject: Re: Text formatting bug in SunOS Pine 3.89? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 21:43:22 GMT I said: bug that slides all text in a received mail note to the right in SunOS Pine ^^^^^ Opps, I meant to say "left." sorry, allen (robelr@indiana.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 17:16:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24795; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:16:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18492; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:02:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18486; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:02:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ec880044@kuc01.kuniv.edu.kw (Ahmad Al-Nusif) Subject: [HELP] Running Pine on VMS Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 23:35:25 GMT Message-Id: <2slqbe$m54@louie.udel.edu> Hi all, I have just built the pine & pico package for the vms. Pico is running fine, but Pine refuses to run and gives a short message that the host and domain names not set. How can I set these variables? Any help would be appreciated! Ahmad ------------------------------------------------------------------ Ahmad J. Al-Nusif Kuwait University - ECE Dept. ahmed@burgan.eng.kuniv.edu.kw nusif@cairo.eng.kuniv.edu.kw ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:01:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25737; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:01:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19494; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:47:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19487; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:47:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 17:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wdawe@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Wayne M. Dawe) Subject: Problems in printing messages Date: 2 Jun 1994 22:22:36 GMT Message-Id: <2slm3c$85p@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have problems printing messages to my printer using the "L" command. A one page message is no problem. A two or more page message always causes me a problem. When it's part way through the printing, the text starts to come garbled and then the computer freezes up. I then have to reboot my system. Please E-mail any suggestions that you may have. Wayne ****************************** Wayne M. Dawe * e-mail : wdawe@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca Anthony Paddon Elementary * phone : 709-467-2785 fax : 467-4357 Musgravetown, NF * home : 709-467-2250 A0C 1Z0 *************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:26:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27601; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:26:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20974; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:15:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20966; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:15:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pls@crl.com (Paul Schauble) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Date: 2 Jun 1994 18:15:22 -0700 Message-Id: <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> What is IMAP, please? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:54:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28286; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:54:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04088; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04082; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:42:39 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28159; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:46:43 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22631; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:40:16 -0700 Received: from pfm.pfm-mainz.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17819; Thu, 2 Jun 94 16:36:06 -0700 Received: by pfm.PFM-Mainz.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #5) id m0q9MIr-0003uvC; Fri, 3 Jun 94 01:36 MESZ Message-Id: From: root@pfm.PFM-Mainz.de (Bernd Hennig pfm) Subject: Help with SCO To: pine@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 01:36:00 +0100 (MESZ) Reply-To: info@PFM-Mainz.DE X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 422 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Hi, help - I need to compile pine on a SCO SYS V Rel. 3.2.v4.2 (ODT 3.0), there is a makefile.sco for your editor, but not for pine itself - can you help me a little bit with this ? -- PFM News & Mail Mainz | Xlink POP Mainz | Phone: +49.171.3310862 | Eibenweg 4 | D-55128 Mainz | Fax: +49.6131.366894 | info@pfm.PFM-Mainz.DE | http://www.PFM-Mainz.DE/ | we are here to serve | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:01:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28440; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:01:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21500; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21494; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:50:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ceslab02!calfeld@beaver.cs.washington.edu (John Dallon) Subject: Re: Number of lines on the terminal screen Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 01:52:11 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun3.015211.23494@math.utah.edu> References: Glen Wooten (jaguar1@netcom.com) wrote: : @psg.com wrote: : : How does PINE determine the number of lines to use on a terminal screen? : : I have a user using NCSA Telnet, which allows you to set more lines on : : the screen than the basic 24. He'd like to use 33 - is this doable?? I use a 103x38 screen at home to call up via a modem, in my .login file I check to see if i'm calling from a modem and if I am I use the command: stty cols 103 rows 38 I'm using gnu stty in this case, I think the normal equiv is stty co# 103 row# 38 -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:06:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28545; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:06:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21622; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:56:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21616; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:56:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 19:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccooper@halcyon.halcyon.com (Charles W. Cooper II) Subject: Re: Official ftp site for pine please. Date: 3 Jun 1994 02:22:21 GMT Message-Id: <2sm44t$1ih@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <1994Jun2.183028@esiee.fr> FTP.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU Frank Bonnet (bonnetf@esiee.fr) wrote: : Could somebody send me the official ftp site to get : the PINE package ? : Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 20:12:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28803; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:12:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04379; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:02:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04373; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:01:58 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28541; Fri, 3 Jun 94 20:05:58 -0700 Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: "Jeffrey A. Stern" Cc: The Pine Team , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Jeffrey A. Stern wrote: > Hi. I could not find easily where to send suggestions to, so I just > replied to one of the messages in Setup/Options/Update.. hope this is > okay.. > This address is OK, but questions and suggestions of general interest should probably go to pine-info@cac.washington.edu or the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (they are bidirectionally gatewayed together). > (FYI: In my case, I use UNIX pine on an Internet-connected Linux box. I > often modem in from home to my school's modem pool, thus reaching a > terminal server, then telnetting from there to my Linux box, where pine > resides..) > > I love pine and have a few questions and suggestions. > > 1) Maybe an easy way to email back suggestions or bugs (as I'm doing now), > as a menu choice somewhere from within pine? > This will be in pine 3.90. > 2) An easy way to get to the end or beginning of an entire a) document or > b) index of messages. For instance, in emacs, it's ESC-< and ESC->. > This would be nice, with both reading and writing long messages (esp. > using a modem), and with getting back up to INBOX from the index of folders. > This will be in pine 3.90. > 3) *Maybe* change the function of the alphabetic keys during a listing of > folders, so that pressing 'j' for instance instantly pops me down to the > first folder whose name begins with j, like 'jin', and typing j again > gets me to the next one, like 'john', etc. This would be wonderful. > > 4) A way to re-sort folders by date of arrival/departure, etc. > This will be in pine 3.90. > 5) A way to not just have all sent-mail go into the same folder, but to > have the option of having *outgoing* mail put in certain folders by either > a) subject or b) name. [Where a) takes priority over b) when there's a > conflict]. I know, I can always cc myself and then save the > *incoming* carbon copy of my *outgoing* mailto the appropriate folder, but I > don't always remember to do this, and since pine doesn't react right away > to received mail, i have to get out of pine and get back in just to get > the Cc:'s right away. In sum: it's a pain doing it that way. > > a) In the first case I am talking to a bunch of people about a certain > *subject*, say, nsf funding of a certain project. I don't want this stuff > to be split up into separate folders with my things going out in sent-mail > and I have to search for what I said, and only their stuff in the, say, > 'nsf' folder. Instead, i'd like to be able to have a way, either in the > "Subject:" line, or better yet, have an "X-Outgoing-Folder:" line or > something, in the header of composition, which I can fill in, so it > automatically gets filed there upon transmission. > The Fcc: header already provides this, doesn't it? > > b) In the second case, i am talking to only one person, say 'tom', and we > talk about lots of things, but since we are such good friends and i know > this conversation will go on indefinitely, I just want to put all our > things, not only incoming from him, but outgoing from me, in one folder. > One way to implement this would be to use the same name for outgoing mail, > as the alias i use in .addressbook when I compose, or, in the case of > replying, at least the alias which corresponds to the address in > .addressbook. > This will be in pine 3.90. > c) A third option would be easiest for you guys to implement, but it would > be less convenient for the user. This would be to simply prompt the user > for the box to put outgoing mail in *at the time*. That is, I compose a > letter, then I type ^X, it says 'Send message? [y]' I type 'y', it *then* > says, 'Outgoing mail folder? [sent-mail]' and I either press return for > default of sent-mail or type in another one. > > d) Some combination of c) with a) and b) would be the best, where it still > prompts you for outgoing mailbox when you send, but not just with > sent-mail. If it can find either by "X-Outgoing-Folder" or by > .addressbook alias, an alternative folder to store it in, it will put that > within the square brackets. Maybe be able to use the TAB key to move > through the various alternatives, replacing them visiblly within the [ ] > with each stroke of the TAB key. > > 6) Wrap-around in pico is not always dependable. Sometimes gives only a > partial wrap around, and i don't know why. That is, it will wrap only the > last word, say, but later, it figures out it would have rather wrapped two > or three. (This is, of course, without adding anything to the line > itself). If you'd like me to give a more detailed description of an > example of what i mean, I can send one. This problem occurs both on > auto-wrap-around (while typing) and on ^J. > Word wrap turns out to be a much more difficult problem than it initially seems, especially with the internal representation used by pico. The current behavior is clearly not very good, but we haven't found the time yet to do the major overhaul the word-wrap code needs. > 7) I would prefer less pauses in pine. It takes too long to get out or > to do something else sometimes, because you're waiting for notices to > appear at the bottom of the screen. I am aware I can get rid of the > prompt for leaving pine, but that takes away only one of the pauses.. > Quite a bit of work has been done to optimize message generation for 3.90, but I am sure there is still more that can be done... > 8) It would be nice to have pine notice *right away* when mail comes into > /usr/spool/mail/jstern. I don't know why, but pine always takes a few > minutes to notice this. In the case that both people are online using > pine (on same or different machines) this problem/feature obviates the > possibility of two people having an email "conversation", firing mail back > and forth from within pine. Such ability is present in other mail reading > systems, and should be on pine. I don't know, maybe I just have > something set up improperly. > Pine 3.89 checks for new mail every 2.5 minutes. It used to be 30 seconds, but our systems people complained about the system load of all of the new mail checks. When IMAP4 gets implemented there will be a less resource intensive way to check for new mail, so maybe we can lower the interval again... > Overall, I just have to say one thing: I am not saying these things > because I don't like pine. I am saying these things because > > I LOVE PINE!!!! GOOD JOB FOLKS!!!! > Thank you! > I think it could be argued that pine is largely responsible, from what I > have seen in my own school, for making UNIX user-friendly to many people. > I just set them up with pine, and months later, they're telling me about > all this other software they're now running on UNIX, heheh.. > > *Yours*, > Jeff Stern > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 21:09:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29881; Fri, 3 Jun 94 21:09:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22634; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:57:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22628; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:57:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 2 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Please drop the news group from the mailing list. Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 20:23:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Gary Perdue wrote: > I agree with Robert that another solution is needed. I would vote > for option c (Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list). Even in > the early stages the flame wars are already starting and the spams and > other garbage posts are sure to follow. > I suggest following basically the same procedure as for creating a list. i.e. someone post a RFD with a proposed charter, followed by a voting process. Don't forget to find someone to setup/manage/moderate? the new list... > Another suggestion for people using the newsgroup would be to > maintain a FAQ. It is alot easier to tell someone to read item x in the > FAQ than to use the bandwidth to explain to a 100 or so people how to > place their signature in an email. If the good folks at Pine would like > the help I will volunteer to coordinate the FAQ. > We have an FAQ mostly written , but many of the answers are 3.90-specific, so we would like to hold off releasing it until the pine 3.90 release. Outside assistance is a possibility, send us mail at pine@cac.washington.edu to discuss it further... > --- > > ____ _________________________________________ > / ___| __ _ _ __ _ _ | Gary L. Perdue unix technical lead | > | | _ / _` | '__| | | | | 652nd CCSG/SCCB McClellan AFB, Ca 95652 | > | |_| | (_| | | | |_| | | Phone (916)643-4666 FAX (916)643-1526 | > \____|\__,_|_| \__, | | email perdue@clyde.mcclellan.af.mil | > |___/ |_________________________________________| > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating > system, and possibly program, of all time" - Bill Gates, Nov, 1987. > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > > > Some possible solutions: > > > > A) remove porting > > B) Make porting one way, from list to group, but NOT from group to list > > C) Leave as is, but create a non-ported mailing list called pine-guru, > > pine-admin, pine-tech, or some such for people that deal with > > suggestions for the future, system-based installation concerns, and > > the like to talk on, and not deal with a huge number of FAQs that > > will get asked every 48 hours or so (and note that making an FAQ > > document won't help at all). > > D) Digestify pine-info. Perhaps as a seperate mailing list called > > pine-info-digest or something. Same information, but in chunks > > instead of individually. I actually prefer individually, but > > others are different. > > E) Everyone switches to elm (well, ok, that's not a good idea :-) > > > > My vote, personally, is to create the seperate list for technical and > > development discussions (basically what the old list was) and to set up a > > digested distribution as well. If the Lords of Pine aren't sure how to > > do the digesting, I'd suggest contacting the folx at queernet.org, as > > they have accomplished this using majordomo (perhaps majordomo can > > already inherently do it, I'm not sure). > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 05:38:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11466; Sat, 4 Jun 94 05:38:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00104; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:16:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29999; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:16:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 11:55:55 GMT Message-Id: References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: : What is IMAP, please? It stands for: Interactive Mail Access Protocol It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on a Unix machine. There is an RFC concerning it....but I don't recall the number at the moment. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 06:06:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12029; Sat, 4 Jun 94 06:06:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13935; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:46:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PINYON.LIBRE.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13929; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:46:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (dunigan@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id FAA05095; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:40:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:39:10 -0700 (MST) From: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air Subject: Re: Pine help on a Motorola? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you know of anyone who may have a copy of pine ported over to a Motorola Delta 8640 running sys V R3.2? Pico seems to compile fine using the sv4 port, but I can't get pine to do the same. I appreciate any help you may be able to offer. Thanks. -- Mike Dunigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 06:09:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12095; Sat, 4 Jun 94 06:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00588; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00582; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22449; Fri, 3 Jun 94 05:47:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 05:47:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ed and Paul, The name (meaning of the initials) was actually changed at an IETF working group mtg last year... It's now "Internet Message Access Protocol" to better illustrate that it isn't limited to mail, and it isn't just for interactive access. IMAP2 is described in RFC-1176. IMAP4 is still in draft form. It's available from ftp.cac.washington.edu in the file /mail/latest-imap-draft A new one is expected any day now. Think of IMAP as a way of manipulating a remote mailbox as if it was local. It allows you to get at your mail from multiple computers. The mail server need not be Unix, but most are. (There is also an IMAP server for VMS.) -teg On Fri, 3 Jun 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: > : What is IMAP, please? > > It stands for: > > Interactive > Mail > Access > Protocol > > It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on > a Unix machine. There is an RFC concerning it....but I don't recall the > number at the moment. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:11:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13210; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:11:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01514; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:49:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PINYON.LIBRE.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01508; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:49:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (dunigan@localhost) by pinyon.libre.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id GAA05672; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 06:43:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 06:41:50 -0700 (MST) From: Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air Subject: Fax Gateway??? To: pinehelp Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone suggest a good fax gateway that would work with pine/unix mail. Our company uses VSIFAX to send faxes out, but would like to be able to use the pine mail interface to pipe to it. Please e-mail any suggestions. Thanks in advance. -- Mike Dunigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:14:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13313; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:14:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15075; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:57:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15069; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:57:04 -0700 Received: from vodka.wlo.dec.com by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com (5.65/27May94) id AA28136; Fri, 3 Jun 94 06:52:34 -0700 Received: by vodka.wlo.dec.com (5.61/1.34) id AA14920; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:51:17 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:51:16 +0000 (BST) From: Lager Lout on the Info Highway Subject: Re: Pine help on a Motorola? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Do you know of anyone who may have a copy of pine ported over to a >Motorola Delta 8640 running sys V R3.2? Pico seems to compile fine using >the sv4 port, but I can't get pine to do the same. I appreciate any help >you may be able to offer. Thanks. I attempted this some time ago, but was unable to get the c-client to compile, and it seemed that considerable effort was required to get around this. I gave up until the BOS was upgraded to SVR4.0, after which Pine compiled without too much fuss. Cheers, Chris. Chris Hedley email: cbh@vodka.wlo.dec.com Digital Equipment Corporation ltd phone: +44 707 374325 Welwyn, Hertfordshire, England fax: +44 707 374302 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 09:46:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19251; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:46:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04868; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04861; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:28:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 08:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu (Mark H. Wood) Subject: Re: IMAP for Windows Message-Id: <1994Jun3.100113.5904@ivax> Date: 3 Jun 94 10:01:13 -0500 References: <1994Jun1.234610.7721@ucbeh> <1994Jun2.072021.65048@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <2sm07a$oas@crl.crl.com> In article , egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) writes: > Paul Schauble (pls@crl.com) wrote: > : What is IMAP, please? > > It stands for: > > Interactive > Mail > Access > Protocol > > It is a protocol that a UA might use to access a users "inbox" on > a Unix machine. Or any other kind of machine. This OpenVMS VAX system, for example. Pine likes it just fine. Sorry, but I get ticked off when I see someone use "Unix machine" as a synonym for "computer". IMAP2 is specified in RFC 1176. -- Mark H. Wood, Lead Systems Programmer +1 317 274 0749 [@disclaimer@] Internet: MWOOD@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU BITNET: MWOOD@INDYVAX "It's *better* than good -- it's CHEAP!" - Cosmo Spacely From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 10:20:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20717; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:20:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05751; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:07:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05745; Fri, 3 Jun 94 10:07:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 09:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk (Mark Statham) Subject: Problems with understanding from field Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:47:16 +0000 Message-Id: <770658436snz@vsfl.demon.co.uk> When I mail some people I get bounced messages returned to me saying that the from field was not recognized and was not syntacitally correct, has anyone else had these problems, if so does anyone know of any work arounds? mark =============================================================================== Mark Statham mark@vsfl.demon.co.uk Underpaid/Overworked Placement Student "You've done what with my core!!" National & Provincial Building Society * XFACE * PGP * AVAILABLE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:26:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23069; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:26:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07288; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:10:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07280; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:10:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgentes@tx03.iac.honeywell.com (Lockley Gentes) Subject: Re: Latest Version, what/where Date: 02 Jun 1994 18:59:09 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:38:52 -0700 (PDT) >>>>> "David" == David L Miller writes: David> Version: 3.89 David> Site: ftp.cac.washington.edu David> Source: mail/pine.tar.Z David> PC binaries: mail/pcpine/*.zip David> Unix binaries: mail/unix-bin/* David> IMAP source: mail/imap.tar.Z (experimental) David> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 David> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) David> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 David> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA When is Version 3.90 due to be released???? -- +--------------------+ | /\ | | _|\ | | /|_ | Lockley Gentes | \ V V / | Honeywell IAC, Phoenix, AZ, USA | >________< | lgentes@eng.iac.honeywell.com | || | +--------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 11:53:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24540; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08101; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:40:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08095; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:40:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ft@maxwell.ccs.att.com (Frederick True) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:03:28 GMT Another suggestion that I did not see in Jeff Stern's initial message is having incoming messages saved to predefined group-based folders; in other words, allow the user to define groups of addresses that should be saved to a single folder. I currently use procmail to intelligently filter my mail into a bunch of inboxes, which are defined in my .pinerc. After reading the messages in pine, however, the best I can do is save by name, which ends up creating many more folders than I'd like. I end up running a weekly script that combs through all my by-name folders and combines user groups into subject based folders. It would be handy if I could define a group of addresses in my .pinerc and map them all to a single save folder, so that when I press "s" in a message from one of the defined addresses, the default save folder is as I have defined it (ie: "co-workers", "personal", "ieee-discussion", etc). Are there any plans to implement such a feature? I love Pine as it is, but this would make things a lot easier for me! >> I LOVE PINE!!!! GOOD JOB FOLKS!!!! Agreed! Regards, Fred True -- Fred True "My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings: AT&T Global Systems Technology Group Look on my works, ye Mighty, ft@maxwell.att.com and despair!" ftrue@attmail.com -P. B. Shelley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:06:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25362; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:06:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08442; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08436; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:53:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 11:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) Subject: return receipt in pine? Date: 2 Jun 1994 20:55:30 -0700 Message-Id: <2sm9ji$icv@ccnet.ccnet.com> Is there anyway I can make a request a return-receipt in pine? So I can make sure my friend got my mail. I know I can do it in ELM, but i like pine better, i think it must have someway to do it in pine. Please anyone know it, please Email me, thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 12:23:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26213; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:23:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08911; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:10:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08905; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:10:16 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 12:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Adding address book entries ... Date: 3 Jun 1994 18:30:43 GMT Message-Id: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> I really like the address book feature of pine. I think it really differentiates itself from many other mailers with this feature. When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply address to my address book - either while reading a message or from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... -- *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 13:44:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03504; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:44:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10891; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10885; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30:25 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0q9fsk-0000DHC; Fri, 3 Jun 94 13:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA25028; Fri, 3 Jun 1994 13:18:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 13:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jun 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: > When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply > address to my address book - either while reading a message or > from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to > the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... Yup..have a look at the "O"ther commands while you are in message reading mode. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 14:46:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05876; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:46:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26915; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26907; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:36 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05405; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:33:33 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04906; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:19:31 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26568; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:19:27 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA10737 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:17:32 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA28895 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:17:31 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:00:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "G.M. Wayne" Reply-To: "G.M. Wayne" Subject: Not a bug - A question To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 14:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: I am the Systems Administrater where I work ,and I am trying to install pine and pico at our site, and I have the following problems and questions: We use AIX 3.1. When I try to compile pine for AIX (a32), I get multiple errors and no bin files were created. I eventually got pico to compile when I compiled it for bsd, but this did not work for pine. How can I compile for AIX 3.1? It does not look likely that we will be upgrading to 3.2 anytime soon, although that is planned for 'sometime down the road' (I don't control these decisions!), and I would like to get this running as soon as possible, as one of my projects is to get an email system running (at the lowest possible cost, of course). We use Televideo 950 and 955 terminals and terminal emulation on PCs. Pico does not seem to recognize the TVI control keys and reverse video codes. I can set my term type to VT100, and change my emulation mode to VT100 on my PC, and that works fine, but I have to change back and forth, as all of our in-house software is set to work with TVI terminals. Most users here have only TVI terminals, and so that is not an option for them, anyway. Is there a TVI configuration option for pico? I have not been able to find any mention of this in the documentation, just for pine (which won't compile, so if it shares config files with pine, is there a way around it?) Any help would be greatly appreciated. The email address that this was sent from is my personal address, and is the best one to respond to. (I haven't got our in-house email system up & running yet!) Thanks! GM Wayne gmwayne@crl.com (415) 257-1191 (9am-5:30pm, Pacific Time) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:15:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06883; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:15:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13034; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:02:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13027; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:02:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r02kar@einstein.desy.de (Karsten Kuenne) Subject: Re: _tzname undfined on sgi Date: 03 Jun 1994 19:59:24 GMT Message-Id: References: <2sd6p4$17c@osiris.wu-wien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: tkircht@myhost.subdomain.domain's message of 30 May 1994 17:12:04 GMT >>>>> "Thomas" == writes: Thomas> I've been trying to build pine on a SGI Challenge running Thomas> Irix 5.1.1, but 'build sgi' tells me: make args are "CC=cc" Thomas> Making c-client library and mtest cc -O -cckr -Wf,-XNh2000 Thomas> -Dconst= -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bsd/rsc cfe: Error: Thomas> os_sgi.c, line 90: '_tzname' undefined; reoccurrences will Thomas> not be r. _tzname[t->tm_isdst ? 1 : 0]); ---^ *** Error code Thomas> 1 (bu21) Thomas> and thus don't build pine (It does build pico, but nothing Thomas> else) Thomas> Any ideas out there? I believe I had the same problem here. The solution is simple, you only need to define _tzname with the following line: extern char *_tzname[2]; You should also change the gettimeofday in the same code area to the following if it isn't already (I can't remember if I changed it or if it was already there): BSDgettimeofday (&tv,&tz); /* get time and timezone poop */ Karsten. -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Karsten Kuenne, DESY (-R2-), Notkestr. 85, 22607 Hamburg, Germany phone: +49-40-8998-3315 fax: +49-40-8998-4429 e-mail: , From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:31:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07474; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:31:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27942; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27936; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:08 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07025; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:18:04 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05958; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:48:07 -0700 Received: from donal.dorsai.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27273; Fri, 3 Jun 94 14:47:57 -0700 Received: by donal.dorsai.org (4.1/29Jan93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA09812; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:45:19 EDT Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:45:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "Ashley M. Kirchner (Inferno Support 1)" Subject: To: The Pine Team Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 15:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: I noticed Pine has a way of sorting mail coming from specific users (correct me if I'm wrong tho...), but now this: I receive mail from different people (From: field), but same Subject: field. Is there a way I can let Pine sort my arrived mail into a separate mail folder, other than INBOX, by looking at it's Subject: line? SuAsh (I guess I subscribe to too many mailing lists, tee hee) +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Address: /\ Date : 6/2 6/3 | | Suraya & Ashley Kirchner /**\ High : 78 74 | | 2985 East Aurora Avenue, Apt. N-217 /****\/\ Low : 64 55 | | Boulder, Colorado 80303-7719 / * \ \ Humid: 33% 56% | | I-Net address: cheleh@ucsu.colorado.edu _/ \_\_ Rem.: SUNNY/SHOWERS | | | | Quote: "There are three types of friends; those like food, without | | which you can't live; those like medicine, which you need | | occasionally; and those like an illness, which you never want." | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:48:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08018; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:48:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13754; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13748; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:12 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05867; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:37:10 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 04 Jun 94 00:33:40+0200 Date: 04 Jun 94 00:33:40+0200 From: "Ashley M. Kirchner (Inferno Support 1)" Message-Id: <716669*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: The Pine Team , Pine Mailing List , "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 15:53:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08194; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:53:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13899; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13893; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:42:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... Date: 3 Jun 1994 22:19:45 GMT Message-Id: <2soaa1$fmu@giga.bga.com> References: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Larry Buickel (larryb@bga.com) wrote: Well Duh! Danial Ford gently pointed out to me that it is the "T" command and is on the help screens. I guess I just missed it. Later ... Larry B From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:45:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10580; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:45:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14948; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14942; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:32:42 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: Does pine use the sum command? Date: 3 Jun 1994 22:47:41 GMT Message-Id: <2sobud$ggv@giga.bga.com> We use pine 3.89 on our Internet system. I don't know what flavor of unix it runs (something shareware I think), but when I tried to uuencode a file via pine, I got a failure because pine couldn't find the "sum" command. After speaking to the sysadmin, he said that "sum" command had been superseded by the "cksum" command on the newer versions of (BSD??) our unix. Anyway, I just wanted to toss that out in case it can be dealt with in a later pine release. I think I do have a workaround. *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:54:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10908; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:54:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15198; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15184; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:51 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 3 Jun 1994 21:02:27 +0100 Message-Id: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: I don't know if this has been mentioned but... I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this (eg the main menu). Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 16:54:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10928; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:54:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15182; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15176; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:42:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 3 Jun 1994 21:26:30 +0100 Message-Id: <2so3lm$2aa@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: I don't know if this has been mentioned but... I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this (eg the main menu). Liam. PS. my apologies if this has been sent twice -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 17:05:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11887; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:05:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15411; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15405; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:52:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Adding address book entries ... Message-Id: <1994Jun3.210821.4337@aber.ac.uk> References: <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:08:21 GMT In article <2snssj$7i7@giga.bga.com>, Larry Buickel wrote: >I really like the address book feature of pine. I think it really >differentiates itself from many other mailers with this feature. > >When I receive a note, is there any automated way to add the reply >address to my address book - either while reading a message or >from the reply composition screen? Or is the only way to go to >the address book menu and add it? Thanks ... Just hit 'T' -- 'Take Address'. You'll then be prompted for any modifications you might want to make to the full name and E-mail address (Pine giving defaults from the From: field of the message). --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:13:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13789; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:13:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16896; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16890; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:00:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 17:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:51:15 GMT (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format for an entry in the Address Book: John Doe But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Thanks in advance for your help, -- Bill Smithers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 18:36:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14221; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:36:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17276; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:21:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17270; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:21:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06872; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:20:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 18:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Crilly Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions In-Reply-To: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Liam, We will investigate the feasibility of using L/R arrow keys when we implement hierarchy support later this year. (We need some new features coming with IMAP4 before we can do that, however.) -teg On 3 Jun 1994, Crilly wrote: > > I don't know if this has been mentioned but... > > I would like to be able to use pine with the left and right arrow > keys as well as the up and down keys. For example, when I'm reading > a message and I want to go back to the index level, it feels more > intuitive to press LEFT than 'I'. > > In the same way, to read a message from index level I'd prefer to > move up and down with the arrows to get to the message I'm interested > in and press RIGHT to view it rather than ENTER. > > I belive this would be faster and easier to use. There would be less > keystrokes to learn, especially if every level worked like this > (eg the main menu). > > > > Liam. > > -- > Liam Crilly > L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk > I'm over here! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 19:04:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14856; Fri, 3 Jun 94 19:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17657; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:50:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watson.lib.muohio.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17651; Fri, 3 Jun 94 18:50:37 -0700 Received: by watson.lib.muohio.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15573; Fri, 3 Jun 94 21:50:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 21:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Murray Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? To: Rob Rosengard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jun 1994, Rob Rosengard wrote: > I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control > over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as > other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to > talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. When I want to forward or reply-via-mail to messages in TIN, I just send them to myself and use PINE to edit and send the mail message. In addition to being saved in 'sent-mail', I also get the power of the addressbook and other features. Peter -- Peter Murray, Library Systems Manager pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu King Library Technical Support pemurray@miavx1.bitnet Miami University, Oxford, Ohio W:513/529-2884 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 3 23:30:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19568; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:30:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21237; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:10:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21231; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:10:15 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Fri, 3 Jun 94 23:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Glenn Rickersey) Subject: Re: return receipt in pine? Date: 4 Jun 1994 05:18:34 GMT Message-Id: <2sp2ra$3v1@woodstock.socs.uts.EDU.AU> References: <2sm9ji$icv@ccnet.ccnet.com> abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) writes: >Is there anyway I can make a request a return-receipt in pine? >So I can make sure my friend got my mail. I also know alot of other people that would be interested in this (sorry if it's been asked a billion times before). I also wouldn't mind a pine specific receipt acknowldgement (ie I don't care if only pine users will send auto receipt acknowledgement), but I can accept I might have to ad that one myself. thanks, glenn. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:16:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20345; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:16:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07268; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07254; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:34 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19771; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:04:29 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:04:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Dave King Cc: Pine Information Subject: Re: Pine 3.89/3.89 compatibility questions. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Dave King wrote: > Could someone please advise me... > > 1. Are there any issues that will prevent a user switching between Pine > 3.89 and Pine 3.90? For example, .pinerc format, postponed message(s) > filename(s), etc. > > What are the implications (if any) of reverting to 3.89 after using 3.90? There is a 3.89 bug, but it isn't anything to get too worried about. If you use a 3.90 variable that is a list but wasn't a list before, and you have more than one item in that list, the items after the first will be deleted if you run 3.89 or before again. This same bug has existed in previous versions and would have nailed you if you switched between versions when we added a new list variable. Only difference here is that we've added more list variables than usual, so it is more likely to happen. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:29:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20531; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:29:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07427; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07421; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:44 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29876; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:15:39 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Wedge Antilles Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address book query In-Reply-To: <1994Jun2.200825.24752@bradford.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The address book format is simple: for a single alias TAB TAB
for example slh TAB Hubert, Steve TAB hubert@cac.washington.edu The full name field can be either Hubert, Steve or Steve Hubert, but it sorts better if you use Hubert, Steve. For a list the format is TAB TAB (addr1, addr2, addr3, addr4, addr5) (Spaces at the beginning of a line are continuation lines, but only for lists. That is, you can't break anywhere else. This is relaxed in 3.90 and there will be a couple new fields after the address field.) For example, alist TAB This is the A List TAB (slh, joe@cac.washington.edu, someotherlist, someothernickname, Fred Flintstone ) Sorry, but no help from me on how to get your list into this format. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Wedge Antilles wrote: > > A friend has mailed me with a list of addresses and I want to put them in my address > book without having to type them in....can you help me??? > I am working on a Sun Sparc with Unix... > > Dom > -- > /\_/\ > d.j.martinez@bradford.ac.uk (o o) ' out on the peace ' > ------------------------------oOO--(=)--OOo----------------------------- > buryfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfcburyfc > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:43:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20822; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:43:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22290; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:31:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22284; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:31:21 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00142; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:27:33 -0700 Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: William Smithers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jun 1994, William Smithers wrote: > (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format > for an entry in the Address Book: > > John Doe > > But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a > message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. > > May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? You can't get them in there using Pine, but if you edit your addressbook by hand and put them in it will work. Make sure you don't put any tabs in there. 3.90 will allow you to add them instead of complaining about the spaces. > (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip > off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one > leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the > Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Pine doesn't require you to have a To. As long as your message is going somewhere it's happy. There are no doubt some mailers that won't like it if you don't have any To's or cc's at all. > Thanks in advance for your help, > > -- Bill Smithers Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 00:53:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21063; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:53:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22398; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:40:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22392; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:40:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 00:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: avoid term= prompt Message-Id: <1994Jun1.121255.9304@aber.ac.uk> References: <2sh03k$aug@rigel.infinet.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:12:55 GMT >Just add a term=" to your .login file. Eg. term="vt220" Hmmm... I'm not sure about that. How about: setenv TERM vt100 or whatever. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23522; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24102; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24096; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:11:22 GMT Message-Id: <2spgfq$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <1994May31.184731.1001@news.lrz-muenchen.de> Michael Storz (a2824as@cd1.lrz-muenchen.de) wrote: : In addition using BASE64 as encoding will increase the size of files at about : 30 % . Darn, I wish I'd thought of that! It's a shame when someone else makes an even stronger argument in your favor than you do! -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23530; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24110; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24104; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:14:34 GMT Message-Id: <2spglq$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <1994Jun1.213533.6210@math.utah.edu> Chris Alfeld (calfeld@eratosth) wrote: : Paul Robinson (tdarcos@access1.digex.net) wrote: : : This misfeature means if I mail a file to someone who can't support MIME I : : cannot use the attachment feature. It means I can not mail something using : : attachments unless I know *beyond a shadow of a doubt* that they have a : : MIME compliant mailer. Since this may not be true, it makes the : : attachment feature of the Pine Mailer effectively worthless. : It's a bad feature sure, but you aren't the only one who uses a MIME : compatiable mail reader. Everyone in comp.mail.pine uses pine and can : understand the attachments. There are also plenty of MIME compient mail : programs out there. Its would be nice if Pine didn't use base64 encoding when : it didn't need to, but it doesn't make it worthless. More places have non-mime mailers and will continue to use them until depreciated or longer, which means that for most cases a base64 encoding *is* essentially worthless since almost nobody can read it. Almost nobody *I* correspond with. -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 02:51:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23563; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:51:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24088; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:41:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24059; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:40:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 02:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access2.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: Warning: File Attachments in Pine are encrypted Date: 4 Jun 1994 09:07:56 GMT Message-Id: <2spg9c$1nc@news1.digex.net> References: <2s9ggo$6mc@news1.digex.net> <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net> <2sbo3l$5a6@news.acns.nwu.edu> Jeff Bishop (jbishop@babel.ling.nwu.edu) wrote: : In article <2sbc2o$jl4@news1.digex.net>, : Paul Robinson wrote: : >Terry Gray wrote in : >as follows: : >> Paul, Welcome (I think :) to the Pine list/newsgroup, and : >> congratulations on having the first and longest flame since the : >> creation of the newsgroup! : Pointing out an obvious mistake in the program is hardly what I consider a : flame. MIME encryption should be an optional feature; to assume that every : receipient will have MIME-aware tools is a mistake, and Paul was right to : point that out. Hear, Hear! And contrary to the popular opinion of SOME people on this newsgroup, conversion of a file from 7-bit ascii to Base64 changes it to a format that is not directly readable. As far as I am concerned, that is encryption as surely as ROT-13 is. The text must be translated out of Base64 to be readable, therefore it is effectively encrypted. -- Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush Voted "Largest Polluter of digex.general" by Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 03:30:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24452; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:30:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24652; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24629; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:21:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 03:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mhsacks@mail.med.cornell.edu (Michael Sacks) Subject: retrieving sent-mail Date: 4 Jun 1994 10:10:44 GMT Message-Id: <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> A friend writes me that he accidentally deleted an E-mail from me. A copy is there in the sent-mail file. What is the easiest way to retrieve it into a new letter? Can it be done without calling up the file and editing out the other letters? Can sent-mail be set up as a directory so that each letter becomes a file instead of being appended to one file? thanks. Michael From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 07:51:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29087; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:51:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28187; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:41:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28181; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:41:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 07:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: retrieving sent-mail Message-Id: <1994Jun4.142425.21055@aber.ac.uk> References: <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 14:24:25 GMT In article <2spjv4INNnen@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu>, Michael Sacks wrote: > A friend writes me that he accidentally deleted an E-mail from me. >A copy is there in the sent-mail file. What is the easiest way to >retrieve it into a new letter? Can it be done without calling up the >file and editing out the other letters? Can sent-mail be set up as a >directory so that each letter becomes a file instead of being appended to >one file? Uh, how about just going to that mail in your sent-mail folder and 'F'orwarding it? :) --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 09:59:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01106; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:59:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29912; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:54:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29906; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:54:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Norbert Marrale) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Date: 3 Jun 1994 00:10:37 -0400 Message-Id: <2smaft$nea@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> References: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> In article <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu>, Paul Campbell wrote: > >using Pine 3.07 > >I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, >only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I'm using pine 3.05, what works for me is to put the nickname for the list in the Bcc field instead of the address field. This way, subscribers do not get to see the whole mailing list. >I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that >they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? I would like to do something similar. I keep folders sorted on people's names. I'd like to save their mail in their personal folder, and to automatically save my mail to them there. > >-- >Paul W. Campbell 801-320-7777 Support >Megahertz Corporation 801-320-8840 BBS >605 N 5600 W, M/S 2108 801-320-6020 Fax >Salt Lake City, UT 801-320-6220 Faxback Norbert R. Marrale The George Washington University maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu School of Educ. and Human Devel. nmarrale@cap.gwu.edu Department of Tourism Studies Voice: (202) 745-5852 Work: (202) 783-6161 Fax: (202) 783-6171 -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 10:19:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01532; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:19:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00316; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:14:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00310; Sat, 4 Jun 94 10:14:50 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 09:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bpn@remus.rutgers.edu (bpn) Subject: [HELP] Building Pine on SCO Message-Id: Date: 4 Jun 94 16:27:14 GMT I am trying to build Pine on SCO SYS V rel 3.2 v 4.2 . Follow is the errors that I got . Can somebody help me with these please. Binh Nguyen bpn@remus.rutgers.edu btest@planet.net (201)-691-4704 *********Error Messages********** mtest.c:51: netdb.h: No such file or directory make: *** [mtest.o] Error 1 mtest.c:51: netdb.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [mtest.o] Error 1 make: *** [C-CLIENT] Error 1 In file included from osdep.c:68: /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: `struct termios' declared inside parameter list /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, /usr/include/termios.h:64: warning: which is probably not what you want. /usr/include/termios.h:65: warning: `struct termios' declared inside parameter list ar: creating libpico.a ld: cannot open -ltermcap: No such file or directory make: *** [pico] Error 1 In file included from headers.h:72, from addrbook.c:69: os.h:203: netdb.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 size: bin/pine: No such file or directory size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory size: bin/pico: No such file or directory From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 12:49:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03885; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:49:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02288; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:42:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02282; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:42:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 11:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcelo@carpa.ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias) Subject: Re: error message Date: 4 Jun 1994 13:50:50 GMT Message-Id: <2sq0rq$mt1@bee08.uspnet.usp.br> References: -sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. (highway@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : On Tue, 24 May 1994, John Pescador wrote: : > : > I got the following error message from pine: : > : I get: : Pine Panic: Received abort signal. : I'm on a AIX3.2 system. It happened to me when I was reading a message, pressed D to delete it and then Q to quit. When pine asked "Expunge..." I pressed an arrow key by mistake and got the above message. (Pine 3.89, SGI IRIX) -- -Marcelo Marcelo Zacarias - CIAGRI/USP marcelo@ciagri.usp.br From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 13:43:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04703; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02981; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:38:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02975; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:38:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 12:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ricknie@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (Rick Younie) Subject: Pine/Pico documentation needed Date: 4 Jun 1994 15:13:41 -0400 Message-Id: <2sqjp5$smc@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Apologies if I've posted this to the group before. The last few days are a blur. I'm helping put together online docs for new users on the Vancouver Freenet. We're going to be opening to the public rsn and I'm in a bit of a panic. I'm pretty sure this is a FAQ, but between Tallahasee just having a hard drive crash and me not knowing my way around, I can't find it. Any pointers to Pico docs would be most appreciated. Rick -- ----/---- rick@freenet.vancouver.bc.ca / The sooner you start, the longer it rick@emma.panam.wimsey.com / will take. PGP key available / ----/---- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 14:26:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05376; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:26:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03578; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:22:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03572; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:22:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thinhq@cs.washington.edu (Quanta) Subject: Help on finding source code for pine Message-Id: <1994Jun4.205025.11031@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:50:25 GMT Hi everbody, I am looking for the source code of pine. does anybody know where I can get it? thanks a lot in advance. Thinh. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 14:38:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05613; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:38:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03767; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:34:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03753; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:34:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs2dw@herts.ac.uk (Crilly) Subject: Re: PINE: Suggestions and Questions Date: 4 Jun 1994 21:46:48 +0100 Message-Id: <2sqp7o$nk5@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <2so28j$1m4@altair.herts.ac.uk> Terry Gray wrote: >Liam, >We will investigate the feasibility of using L/R arrow keys when we >implement hierarchy support later this year. (We need some new features >coming with IMAP4 before we can do that, however.) I'll look forward to that release. Thanks, Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk I'm over here! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 17:32:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08497; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:32:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06178; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:27:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06172; Sat, 4 Jun 94 17:27:36 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA28291; Sun, 5 Jun 94 08:27:34 +0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 08:27:33 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Help on finding source code for pine To: Quanta Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jun4.205025.11031@beaver.cs.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 Jun 1994, Quanta wrote: > I am looking for the source code of pine. does anybody know where I can > get it? > > thanks a lot in advance. Hummmm.....based on your email address, it would seem you are in the generaly vicinity of where pine is written. Anyway, try using ftp.cac.washington.edu Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 18:58:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09662; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:58:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07242; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:54:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07228; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:54:15 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 18:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yukes@nevada.edu (P. Yukes) Subject: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 00:53:50 GMT Message-Id: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Lately I have been unable to successfully transfer messages from Pine to my own PC. I usually use to export a message to the root directory. I then attempt to download them to my PC. I have tried sz -a filename, and sz -b filename... Neither seems to work. The status screen shows the downloading begins but then gets stuck and is eventually timed out. Please tell me what I could do differently in order to succeed in downloading... Thanks -- Pirkko e-mail:yukes@nevada.edu -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 20:33:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11124; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08473; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:28:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08467; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:28:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 19:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 02:43:25 GMT Message-Id: <2sre4d$4tv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> In article <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu>, P. Yukes wrote: >Lately I have been unable to successfully transfer messages from Pine to >my own PC. >I usually use to export a message to the root directory. I then >attempt to download them to my PC. I have tried sz -a filename, and >sz -b filename... Neither seems to work. The status screen shows the >downloading begins but then gets stuck and is eventually timed out. >Please tell me what I could do differently in order to succeed in >downloading... The following worked for me, I hope it works for you! If you are on a UNIX system, and you have accessed your mainframe remotely by dialling into a remote access connection with TELNET, try instead accessing your system with RLOGIN, instead of TELNET. At wam.umd.edu, this is the key to getting zmodem to work correctly over the telephone lines. -- Regards, Frank Young tipcat@wam.umd.edu 703-532-6284 6166 Leesburg Pike, Suite B-12, Falls Church, Virginia 22044-2343 "Videmus nunc per speculum in aenigmate... Nunc cognosco ex parte" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jun 4 21:56:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12605; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:56:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09527; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:52:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09521; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:52:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sat, 4 Jun 94 20:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Dale Fraser) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 03:26:55 GMT Message-Id: <2srglv$14d@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> <2sre4d$4tv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Frank Young (tipcat@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : If you are on a UNIX system, and you have accessed your mainframe : remotely by dialling into a remote access connection with TELNET, try : instead accessing your system with RLOGIN, instead of TELNET. At : wam.umd.edu, this is the key to getting zmodem to work correctly over the : telephone lines. This is due to the fact that the escape characters for telnet will conflict with the escape characters for the Z-modem protocol causing the file transfer to abort or crash. Switching to rlogin will remedy this problem since it has different escape characters. Dale -- Dale Fraser dale@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca STEM~Net, Training Assistant Voice: (709)737-8836 E-5036, Memorial University, St. John's Fax: (709)737-2179 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 10:32:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24921; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:32:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19129; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:24:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19123; Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:24:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stan@nmsua.nmsu.edu (Stan McCann) Subject: Pop3 support? Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 16:16:31 GMT Message-Id: Hi all, Is there any way to pop mail from another account using pine? If not now, are there any plans to implement pop3 support? I have a couple of users that dial into a Unix system but receive mail on our Novell server using Mercury. Mercury has a pop3 server and these users would like to be able to get their mail from the Novell server. Any ideas would be helpful. Stan McCann Network Administrator Alamogordo Branch Community College (NMSU) stan@nmsua.nmsu.edu (preferred) smccann@nmsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 12:01:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26381; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:01:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20334; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:54:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20328; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:54:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eratosth!calfeld@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: Pine/Pico documentation needed Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:29:39 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jun5.172939.6228@math.utah.edu> References: <2sqjp5$smc@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Rick Younie (ricknie@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu) wrote: : Apologies if I've posted this to the group before. The last few days are : a blur. : I'm helping put together online docs for new users on the Vancouver : Freenet. We're going to be opening to the public rsn and I'm in a bit of : a panic. I'm pretty sure this is a FAQ, but between Tallahasee just : having a hard drive crash and me not knowing my way around, I can't find it. : Any pointers to Pico docs would be most appreciated. I write guides to Unix programs and though I don't have one for pico I do have two for pine which have something of pico in them. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 12:39:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27031; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20846; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:32:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20840; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:32:39 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 11:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rebel@engin.umich.edu (Johnny Yuma) Subject: PGP/Pine Date: 5 Jun 1994 18:41:41 GMT Message-Id: <2st695INNhop@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> A friend of mine sent this to me, and I thought perhaps someone else might get some use out of it. -- Here ya go.. a method to pgp outgoing mail with pine. Change your .pinerc so the line that looks like: # Editor to use in place of Pine's internalcomposer, Pico editor= reads this way.. editor=mkpgp Now create a file called mkpgp that contains the following: [begin mkpgp (note: do not include this line)] #!/bin/sh # schake@cs.sandia.gov, May 28 1994 # revised jmallin@umich.edu, May 31 1994 clear echo '' echo 'PGP and PINE !!! written by schake@cs.sandia.gov and jmallin@umich.edu' echo '' echo 'Enter public key of recipient or return to sign only' read action case $action in ?*) pgp -asew "$1" "$action";; *) pgp -satw +clearsig=on "$1";; esac mv "$1.asc" "$1" [end mkpgp (do not include this line)] Next, issue the command: chmod +x mkpgp Now you should be setup. Just use pine as usual. Begin composing a message and type the entire message. When you are done do not ^X. First, type ^_ to execute the mkpgp script (your alternate editor) then you can ^X and send after you return to pine. mkpgp should allow you to specify a recipient's public key or just hit return to sign the message. Enjoy. -- Now if someone could come up with something to somehow decrypt the messages, I'll be all set.. ;) Thanks Rebel -- Everyone should know of all information that others have deemed unfit for for public knowledge. -Author Unknown rebel@engin.umich.edu -- Rebel without a clue -- Finger for PGP Key Key fingerprint = 6E AF E6 6D E3 2E 87 40 CA 54 64 D3 B7 1A D0 3E From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 14:07:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28396; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:07:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22162; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:01:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22156; Sun, 5 Jun 94 14:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 12:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rpwillia@pentagon-gw.army.mil (Ray Williams@DSSW) Subject: Turning off auto fill in headers Message-Id: <1994Jun3.171530.21484@pentagon-gw.army.mil> Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:15:30 GMT Hi. We have installed pine 3.87 at my site and we like it very much. The problem I have is we have an older e-mail program (Edge Office) which cannot handle replies to the from headers pine supplies. For example a message from me would be: From: Ray Williams 697-9300 Edge will choke on "Ray" stating there is no such user. As I said Edge is a few years old and out of date. Personally we recommended everybody switch to pine, but this is the U.S. Gov and they tend to like to be backward so I need to stop the autoexpansion if at least until they get with the program. TIA Ray From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 15:48:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00132; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:48:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10128; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:42:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10119; Sun, 5 Jun 94 15:42:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id RAA11861; Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:47:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 17:47:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: PGP/Pine To: Johnny Yuma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2st695INNhop@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Oh come now, I posted that hack over a year ago. Serves me right, i guess, for not "copyrighting' it. SHeesh. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 16:09:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00453; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:09:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10409; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:04:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10403; Sun, 5 Jun 94 16:04:55 -0700 Received: from atlas3 (atlas3.ccs.deakin.edu.au [128.184.102.103]) by sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id JAA08193 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 09:04:48 +1000 Message-Id: <199406052304.JAA08193@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> X-Sender: carterp@mail-w.deakin.edu.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 09:04:14 +1100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carterp@deakin.edu.au (Phil Carter) Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: unsubscribe Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 Deakin University, Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:16:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03482; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:16:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26360; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:12:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26354; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:12:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwrsun4!perl@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Robert Perlberg) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Message-Id: <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> Date: 6 Jun 94 00:12:12 GMT References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> >From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson): > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the editor is built in. Strictly speaking, Pine's behavior regarding signatures is not "wrong". The time-honored convention on USENET is to include the original message (preferably edited) followed by the reply followed by the signature. The authors of Pine want to promote a different convention which is to start the message with the reply followed by the signature followed by the original message. My personal prefence is to put the original message first, but only if you are going to delete all but the most relevant portions. Given the tendency of many people to not do the appropriate editing, Pine's behavior relieves me of having to read the original message in its entirity if I don't want to. Robert Perlberg Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York perl%dwrsun4@murphy.com -or- perl%dwrsun4@philabs.com -- "I am not a language ... I am a human being!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:34:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03721; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:34:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26547; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26533; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| PC FONG |) 8D) Subject: Re: Exporting messages from Pine Message-Id: References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:29:55 GMT You may try the kermit tools instead of sz. It works for me. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 19:34:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03749; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:34:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26555; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26549; Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:29:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| PC FONG |) 8D) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:37:34 GMT If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific to pine, you may setenv VISUAL pico to use PICO instead. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:15:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05521; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:15:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27947; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:11:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27941; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:11:07 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmr@bu.edu (Rob Rosengard) Subject: Saving outgoing messages question Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:11:51 GMT Message-Id: <2su45n$lgj@news.bu.edu> I would like to save outgoing messages to individual files. For example, say I write a message to 'Pam', I would like it to be saved in filename 'Pam'. Currently, all outgoing messages are being saved in the same file. What must I do to have this functionality? Thanks, ROB RMR@BU.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06159; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28464; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28458; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Saving outgoing messages question Message-Id: References: <2su45n$lgj@news.bu.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 03:59:58 GMT When you compose a message, hit ctl-r which will reveal rich header. You will see a field marked Fcc: which is the folder carbon copy, that is, the place where your copy of the message you are typing is stored. It is in your default folder, named "sent", "out-messages", or "outmail" (in my case). Hit ctl-k to erase the line and type in the name of the folder where you would like it to be stored (I normally use my addressbook alias name for the person I am addressing as folder names). I don't believe current versions of pine permit this to be done automatically, as elm, for instance, allows. I hope this will become a feature of subsequent versions of pine, and has been discussed in some length on this group. Rob Rosengard (rmr@bu.edu) wrote: : I would like to save outgoing messages to individual files. : For example, say I write a message to 'Pam', I would like it : to be saved in filename 'Pam'. Currently, all outgoing messages : are being saved in the same file. What must I do to have this : functionality? : Thanks, : ROB : RMR@BU.EDU -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06188; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28472; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28466; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:38 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:04:25 GMT I do, with great satisfaction. "vi" is a pain, "emacs" is a chore (albeit, I have great feelings of guilt for not taking the time to master emacs). Edit your .cshrc to include the line pcfong suggests below. Invoke the pico editor to edit your .cshrc by typing pico .cshrc (or whatever shell you are using, e.g., .tshrc) (| PC FONG |) 8D (pcfong@hkusub) wrote: : If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific : to pine, you may : setenv VISUAL pico : to use PICO instead. : -- : Malboro Fong : Executive Officer, : Development Services Section, : The University of Hong Kong : pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. : Those who WATCH things happen. : Those who WONDER what happened. -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06208; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28456; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28450; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 20:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rklimkie@mason1.gmu.edu (Robert E Klimkiewicz) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:28:47 GMT Message-Id: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit g.h.chinoy (hussain@artsci.wustl.edu) wrote: : Hi, all, : I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and : have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar : to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include the original message. Are you even using pine? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Klimkiewicz, Jr. + "To each, according to need, Communication Major + From each, according to ability." George Mason University + rklimkie@mason1.gmu.edu + -Karl Marx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 21:56:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06228; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:56:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28488; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28482; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:51:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:10:18 GMT Article cancelled from within tin [v1.1 PL8] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 22:20:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06697; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28782; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28776; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:13:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jglassco@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (john glasscock) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 04:13:14 GMT I do, with great satisfaction. "vi" is a pain, "emacs" is a chore (albeit, I have great feelings of guilt for not taking the time to master emacs). Edit your tinrc to include the line pcfong suggests below. Invoke the pico editor to edit your tinrc by typing pico tinrc (this is good to apply to whatever shell you are using, e.g., .cshrc, tshrc) : (| PC FONG |) 8D (pcfong@hkusub) wrote: : : If you don't concern about addressbooks and a few other things specific : : to pine, you may : : setenv VISUAL pico : : to use PICO instead. : : -- : : Malboro Fong : : Executive Officer, : : Development Services Section, : : The University of Hong Kong : : pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk : : ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ : : There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. : : Those who WATCH things happen. : : Those who WONDER what happened. : -- : John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu : 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 : Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University -- John Glasscock jglassco@ucs.indiana.edu 100 N. Jefferson tel: 812-336-0246 Bloomington, IN 47408 USA Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 22:20:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06699; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:20:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28800; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:14:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28794; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:14:15 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA01097 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:12:15 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA09861 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:12:13 -0700 Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:08:36 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Subject: Re: cancel <------can this be filtered out? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to delete (a sort of e-mail kill file) to delete cancel and unsubscribe request on this mail list? lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jun 5 23:26:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07904; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:26:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29714; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:21:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29708; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:21:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 22:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caliburn@crl.com (Chris E. Becht) Subject: Sig. File for dummies Date: 5 Jun 1994 22:23:17 -0700 Message-Id: <2subs5$asl@crl.crl.com> Could some nice person out there tell me, in plain english, how to create and attach a sig. file? I am not a computer person, nor, honestly, do I have any desire to become one. I just want to add a nice little signature to my mail. Please e mail to save bandwidth. THanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 00:13:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08701; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:13:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00409; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:07:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00400; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:07:44 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edb@ten-fwd.airpcs.com (Earl Baker) Subject: Re: Problems in printing messages Date: 6 Jun 1994 06:29:53 GMT Message-Id: <2sufp2$rlq@news.cerf.net> References: <2slm3c$85p@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> I have a problem printing using the Y command--somehow Pine produces "pages" that are about 3 lines too long. If I print a message, I get one full page of print, one page of 3 lines, then a full page, then 3 lines, etc., until the end of the message. Any ideas on what causes this or how to stop it? -- edb@airpcs.com (formerly edb@teltechlabs.com) sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l a.k.a. ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l skyweasel@airpcs.com sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 00:23:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08866; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:23:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00607; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00601; Mon, 6 Jun 94 00:19:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Sun, 5 Jun 94 23:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yukes@nevada.edu (P. Yukes) Subject: cmsg cancel <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Control: cancel <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> Date: 6 Jun 1994 06:27:13 GMT Message-Id: <2sufk1$4vu@post-office.nevada.edu> References: <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> <2sr7mu$3a9@post-office.nevada.edu> was cancelled from within rn. -- Pirkko e-mail:yukes@nevada.edu -==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 03:29:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13558; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:29:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20743; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:22:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20737; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:22:11 -0700 Received: by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0qAbob-000BzEC; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:21 BST Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:21:56 +0100 (BST) From: "P.J. MacDonald" Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 04:04:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14539; Mon, 6 Jun 94 04:04:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03610; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03604; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:58:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 03:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Daniel Ford) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: 6 Jun 1994 10:30:57 GMT Message-Id: <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> >: I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and >: have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar >: to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? > >Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include >the original message. Are you even using pine? Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial forward? -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 05:56:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17154; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:56:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05328; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:47:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05319; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:47:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 05:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:00:32 GMT In article <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu>, Daniel Ford wrote: >>: I was wondering if there was a way to mark a section of text and >>: have it quoted (i.e. have ">"s placed at the first of every line) similar >>: to the ctrl-j, justify and unjustify? >> >>Uhhh, in pine all you have to do is 'r' for reply and then 'y' to include >>the original message. Are you even using pine? > >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial >forward? Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 08:20:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19994; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07507; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:13:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07501; Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:13:51 -0700 Received: from ecpdsharmony.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA00113; Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:13:49 +0200 Received: from work.cern.ch by ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10983; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:46 +0200 From: amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) Message-Id: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe ubsubscribe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 10:02:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24895; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:02:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10147; Mon, 6 Jun 94 09:52:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10125; Mon, 6 Jun 94 09:52:49 -0700 Received: from peacock.uwaterloo.ca by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 12:52:30 -0400 Received: by peacock.UWaterloo.ca (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for @watserv1.uwaterloo.ca:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA16586; Mon, 6 Jun 94 12:52:32 -0400 From: stbedi@peacock.UWaterloo.ca (Sunjay T. Bedi) Message-Id: <9406061252.ZM16583@peacock.UWaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:52:30 -0400 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.1.0 22feb94 MediaMail) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 ubsubscribe -- ========================================================= Sunjay T. Bedi, (519)888-4567, ext. 5297 /\ /\ stbedi@peacock.uwaterloo.ca / \ / \ University of Waterloo /____\/____\ ========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 10:42:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26493; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:42:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11072; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:33:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11064; Mon, 6 Jun 94 10:33:22 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA26107; Mon, 6 Jun 94 13:34:46 -0400 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 13:34:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Unger Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe /********************************SBK**************************************\ |** Chris Unger MicroComputer Specialist **| |** unge1845@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Computer Services Room 112b **| S** cunger@nyx.cs.du.edu Kutztown University, PA **S B** **B K** Anyone can win, **K |** unless of course there happens Finger unge1845 for Hours **| |** to be a second contestant. and Phone Numbers **| \********************************SBK**************************************/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 11:13:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27668; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:13:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11915; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11909; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:06:00 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11572; Mon, 6 Jun 94 11:05:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:05:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Phil Carter , "P.J. MacDonald" , Adrian Mills Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subscription and unsubscription requests for the pine-info mailing list should be sent to majordomo@cac.washington.edu, *NOT* to the list! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, it was written: > unsubscribe > > > On Sun, 5 Jun 1994, Phil Carter wrote: > unsubscribe > > > > > > Phil Carter, Ph. 61 55 633427 > Computing & Communications Services, Fax 61 55 633226 > Deakin University, > Warrnambool, Victoria, Australia 3280 email: carterp@deakin.edu.au > > > On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, P.J. MacDonald wrote: > unsubscribe > > On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Adrian Mills wrote: > ubsubscribe > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:16:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09243; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18808; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18802; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bpn@remus.rutgers.edu (bpn) Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: 6 Jun 94 20:44:45 GMT Control: cancel cancel in newsgroup comp.mail.pine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:16:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09250; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:16:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18800; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18794; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:10:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cornell@iupucs.iupui.edu (Cornell Tribbet) Subject: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: 6 Jun 94 09:58:39 -0500 Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names from appearing in the recipient's header. --- Cornell Tribbet Computer Systems Engineer Indiana Univ.-Purdue Univ. at Indianapolis ------------------------------------------ Ctribbet@Iupucs.Iupui.Edu Phone: (317)274-9734 Fax: (317)274-9742 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:26:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09575; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:26:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19022; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19016; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: <1994Jun6.222703.8135@aber.ac.uk> References: <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:27:03 GMT In article , James wrote: >Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: >: >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial >: >forward? > >: Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. > >What if I want to quote 2 different messages? Um, the only way I can think to do this is to hit R to reply to the first message, postpone it, hit R to reply to the second message, then hit ^R and incorporate mail/postponed-mail into the second reply. I'm sure there isn't an easy way of doing this! That's really awkward, I know, but it's all I can think of. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:26:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09616; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:26:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19014; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19008; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:20:25 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: itjames@barney.ucdavis.edu (James) Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Message-Id: References: <2su55f$fco@portal.gmu.edu> <2sutt1$qr9@mozz.unh.edu> <1994Jun6.120032.14826@aber.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:49:18 GMT Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: : >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial : >forward? : Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. What if I want to quote 2 different messages? ---- James Pace Fortune Sez: Driving barefoot is illegal in Kansas. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 16:34:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09869; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19271; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19265; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:29:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 15:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) Subject: I don't like it! Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:13:30 GMT I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! Another thing is that I would like a way to change the quotation mark to something else, is this posible??? >From the simple ">" to whatever I want... ie the initials from the quoted person or something!! And I would like to be able to manually Quote a text block... Maybe just mark a block and then get it all indented with a quote mark infront!! //Robert -- d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 17:19:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11586; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:19:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20443; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20437; Mon, 6 Jun 94 17:13:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 16:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giangrtm@iia.org (Tom Giangreco) Subject: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:18:29 GMT Message-Id: I ftp'd the AIX binary version of Pico from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It works great except I would like to disable wordwrap for reports that are 132 columns wide. Is this possible??? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 19:13:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13964; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22228; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:02:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22214; Mon, 6 Jun 94 19:02:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 18:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caliburn@crl.com (Chris E. Becht) Subject: Re: Sig. File for dummies Date: 6 Jun 1994 17:53:14 -0700 Message-Id: <2t0gdq$ast@crl.crl.com> References: <2subs5$asl@crl.crl.com> Chris E. Becht (caliburn@crl.com) wrote: : Could some nice person out there tell me, in plain english, how to : create and attach a sig. file? I am not a computer person, nor, honestly, : do I have any desire to become one. I just want to add a nice little : signature to my mail. : : Please e mail to save bandwidth. : THanks Thanks to everyone who has responded. I think I haveit now. Go to the editor (pico for me) create .signature, and it happens. Thanks again, now stop please -- SIgnature under construction Please ignore this test Other Disclaimers may apply Or something like that From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 20:36:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15468; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:36:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23684; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:31:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23678; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:31:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Question regarding Pine (FAQ?) Message-Id: References: <2sliap$cqv@u.cc.utah.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 02:39:47 GMT Paul Campbell (pawcamp@u.cc.utah.edu) wrote: : : using Pine 3.07 : : I currently am maintaining a list of people who share a common interest : (in this case, modem games). I created a list of addresses using the : add-to-list command, which places those names in the .addresslist? file in my : root directory. To date, when I update, I simply mailed all of them using : pine...addressing the nickname of the maillist instead of individually. : No problem right?. Well, when I get feedback from the group, everyone else : gets the email? I guess that's because all the email addresses are : stuffed in the the "To: " line, right? I'm confused by it all!!! : : I'd like to make the email I send to the group in a Digest form..that is, : only I can send to the whole group....only I get the feedback...get it? I believe it's the respondent to your mail who do the fault. (I'm using Pine 3.89 which may not suit your case) When one replies to your mail where he is one of the many addressees on the To: list, he could effectively reply only to the sender (you) and ignore all others on the To: list. He will be prompted for this. : I'd also like to automate received files with a certain subject so that : they are placed in a certain folder..can this be done? Do I need to use any scripting tools for this?? -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 21:08:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16027; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:08:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24185; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:03:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24179; Mon, 6 Jun 94 21:03:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca (Rob McKenzie) Subject: Adding extra headers?? Message-Id: <1994Jun7.015531.3900@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 01:55:31 GMT I have a need to add a couple extra headers to messages being posted with Pine. Where in the source code (or is it done there) can I add these headers? I tried to add them in first lines of the body, but as suspected they didn't take as they should have. Any ideas? -- Robert McKenzie - Bell Northern Research - Ottawa CANADA E-mail: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca *or* root@chezrob.pinetree.org =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Disclaimer: The views expressed here are those of mine and only mine. They have not nor will ever be expressed as those of my employer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 22:40:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18119; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:40:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25547; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25540; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:33:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) Subject: Random sigs??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 04:53:30 GMT Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? Thanks for helping. --Alex From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:19:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18849; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:19:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26164; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:13:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26158; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:13:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billwill@netcom.com (William Smithers) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 05:25:36 GMT In article <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax>, Cornell Tribbet wrote: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >from appearing in the recipient's header. > >Cornell Tribbet ========================================================================== The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with commas, but no spaces. =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:39:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19164; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:39:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26459; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:33:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26453; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:33:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: is there a ctrl-key for quoting? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will allow multiple messages to be quoted... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, James wrote: > Simon Bradley (syb3@aber.ac.uk) wrote: > : >Perhaps the poster wanted to send the quote to somebody else? A partial > : >forward? > > : Well then, just hit 'r' for reply, but change the To: address. > > What if I want to quote 2 different messages? > > ---- > James Pace > Fortune Sez: > Driving barefoot is illegal in Kansas. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19350; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26675; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26669; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:33 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mc5305@u.cc.utah.edu (Michael A. Chang) Subject: Re: Easy way to read WP file into Pine msg? Date: 7 Jun 1994 00:07:29 -0600 Message-Id: <2t12r1$4v5@u.cc.utah.edu> References: <2sd80h$q3b@crl.crl.com> <2sgggk$fqd@inca.gate.net> Bob Curtis (bc@inca.gate.net) wrote: : I'd like to do the same thing, but the command "dos2unix" is not : available on my system. Is there a PC version that I can run locally : before I upload the file? What's it called? : Alternately, is there another command I could use, once the file is on : the Unix server? : : 4. Using ^R, I read the file into the message portion of letter. you could use emacs to edit the file.. first, load the file, then type Meta-x... type 'replace' (without quotes) and enter, you'll see a dash show, then type 'string'....and hit enter.. it'll ask you what to replace, type Ctrl-q and then Ctrl-M then enter. After that, it'll ask you what to replace it with, just hit enter... you'll then see all the ^Ms changed to nothing...... (make sure you do this from the top of the doc so that you don't have to repeatedely do it... mike -- =========================================================================== || Michael A. Chang | "Laugh at yourself first, before anyone else can" || ||~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~^-----------.----------------------------------------|| || michael.chang@m.cc.utah.edu | /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ /\ || || machang@xmission.com | / \/ \/ \/\/ \/ \/ \/\/ \/ \ || || machang@cadesm0.eng.utah.edu | / \ / WASATCH MOUNTAINS / \ \ || || michael.chang@ucs.org |/ \/ / \ \|| |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| || PGP - ver. 2.3A, key avaiable via finger. || || 512/DB671D 1994/03/03 9BA478DF1F84490EFED2F7C10E9F79D8 || =========================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19370; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26667; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26661; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:30 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Adding extra headers?? Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jun7.015531.3900@bcarh54a.bnr.ca> Pine 3.90 will be out in a few weeks and will allow you to configure the headers you need. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Rob McKenzie wrote: > I have a need to add a couple extra headers to messages being posted with > Pine. Where in the source code (or is it done there) can I add these > headers? I tried to add them in first lines of the body, but as > suspected they didn't take as they should have. > > Any ideas? > > -- > Robert McKenzie - Bell Northern Research - Ottawa CANADA > E-mail: rmckenzi@hpb.hwc.ca *or* root@chezrob.pinetree.org > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Disclaimer: The views expressed here are those of mine and only mine. > They have not nor will ever be expressed as those of my employer. > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 6 23:49:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19390; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:49:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26659; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26653; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:43:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Mon, 6 Jun 94 23:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 23:07:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: > I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) > > As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! > This will be fixed in Pine 3.90. > Another thing is that I would like a way to change the quotation mark to something else, is this posible??? > > From the simple ">" to whatever I want... ie the initials from the quoted person or something!! > Not yet. > And I would like to be able to manually Quote a text block... Maybe just mark a block and then get it all indented with a quote mark infront!! > Not yet. > > //Robert > > -- > d93rkr@t.hfb.se (Robert Krenn) _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ LYNX > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ STm > University of Borlange, Sweden _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ STe > tel: +46-243224839 _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ F-030 > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:01:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20946; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:01:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27809; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27803; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:49 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stp@netcom.com (Stephen Porter) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 07:27:55 GMT William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: : Cornell Tribbet wrote: : >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names : >from appearing in the recipient's header. : The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. : When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the : header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get : a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with : commas, but no spaces. Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. -Steve Porter- -- stp@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:02:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20966; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:02:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27801; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27795; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:53:47 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 00:37 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stp@netcom.com (Stephen Porter) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Message-Id: References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 07:22:50 GMT Stanley Kurasaki (kurasaki@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu) wrote: : : I use TIN for NETNEWS. However, I don't have control : : over saving the messages sent within TIN as well as : : other features that PINE has. How can I get TIN to : : talk with PINE? Please EMAIL me the answer if possible. : Go into the .tin directory and edit the tinrc file and file the : default_editor_format and change it to default_editor_format=pico +%N %F : I hope this is what you are asking for and am not sure what you mean by : other features. I tried this, and when I followup or reply to a post, the status line at the top of the screen says: "UW PICO 2.3", the functionality doesn't seem any different, i.e., I can't get to my address book, or save the messages in any of my folders. Can it be set up to do so? -Steve Porter- -- stp@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 01:34:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21991; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:34:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28458; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:27:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28452; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:26:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 01:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hiroki@limerick.cbs.umn.edu (Hiroki Morizono) Subject: Re: Editing with Pine/Pico Message-Id: References: <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> <2sjjhh$q3u@access3.digex.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:02:06 GMT D Mc Intire (chester@access.digex.net) wrote: : In article <2s58vq$kn8@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, : David Sang-shin Lee wrote: [snip] : >My question is this: I haven't been able to use the "mark" feature in : >the Pine email editor (and Pico file editor) on my Macintosh. When I use : >non-Mac machines on campus, if I type ctrl-^ there is no problem. When I : >try to do the same thing from my Mac at home, I get the character "6". [snip] [snip] : I don't have any problem with a pc. Are you using the control key, the : shift key and and the key that has the six on it together. I had a problem : understanding what ctrl-^ meant. It's a problem with Apple's KCHR that became annoyingly obvious in Telnet 2.6. There should have been a couple of alternate keyboard resources which were included in the NCSA Telnet 2.6 distribution ftp it from zaphod.ncsa.uiuc.edu if you don't have it already, and try installing them. Should fix your problem. Hiroki From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 05:02:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26886; Tue, 7 Jun 94 05:02:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02112; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02106; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au (Daniel Ben-Sefer) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Date: 6 Jun 1994 03:57:33 GMT Message-Id: <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> Robert Perlberg (perl@dwrsun4.UUCP) wrote: : From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net (Paul Robinson): : > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of : > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". : Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The : news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of : the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the : editor is built in. So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Ben-Sefer danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au On IRC: Castor, Dabas dben-sef@st.nepean.uws.edu.au Happiness is like a rainbow.... Whenever you get to the place you thought it was, it isnt there any more... it has moved away. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 05:03:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26918; Tue, 7 Jun 94 05:03:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02122; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02114; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:55:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk (Liam) Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: 7 Jun 1994 10:30:49 GMT Message-Id: <413c2df44d05@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: Robert Krenn wrote: >I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) > >As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the >permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would >be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, >Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! My solution to this is to move the .addressbook file into my Mail directory and then edit .pinerc and make the address-book line say: address-book=Mail/.addressbook As long as your Mail directory has permissions drwx------ (700) then no-one can read your address book file. As for the rest of your questions, I want those features too. Liam. -- Liam Crilly L.Crilly@herts.ac.uk Not enough imagination for a quote. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 08:22:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01395; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:22:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05625; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:10:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05618; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:10:20 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 08:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Message-Id: <1994Jun7.144222.14330@aber.ac.uk> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:42:22 GMT In article <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au>, Daniel Ben-Sefer wrote: > >So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? feature-list=signature-at-bottom :) --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 09:20:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04376; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:20:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07391; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07380; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Tom Giangreco wrote: > I ftp'd the AIX binary version of Pico from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It works > great except I would like to disable wordwrap for reports that are 132 columns > wide. Is this possible??? > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 09:20:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04380; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07375; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07368; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:11:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Random sigs??? Date: 7 Jun 94 16:03:24 GMT Message-Id: References: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) writes: >Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? >Thanks for helping. >--Alex Get one of the programs from comp.sources.unix that allows one to attach a program to a named pipe. People frequently do this for .plan to launch a fingerback program. Some of the versions allow any program to attach to any named pipe. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:06:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05992; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:06:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08492; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:59:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08486; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:58:58 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Pop3 support? Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:29:27 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will support POP3, at least in UNIX Pine. PC Pine is less certain. The syntax for a mailbox name will be: {server/pop3} You will not be allowed to use any folder name other than INBOX with POP3, due to POP3's limitations. There are many other limitations in POP3 that will limit what you can do with a POP3 folder from Pine. Also, POP3 is noticably slower than IMAP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:42:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07099; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:42:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09138; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:26:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09132; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:26:55 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: Re: Can TIN use PINE to send messages? Date: 7 Jun 1994 17:04:38 GMT Message-Id: <2t29b6$mqs@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <2sjg4n$o25@news.bu.edu> I have a different problem with tin/pine. When I try to use tin to MAIL a message to someone, it doesn't like it. Apparently tin tries to send the message by saying "pine user@site -s subject < tmp.sndxxxx" Pine can't accept the "<" input. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu At one point in my life I had a clear sense of direction and a great future to look forward to. College changed all that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 10:51:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07463; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:51:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09602; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:41:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09596; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:41:52 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 10:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maitre@gwis.circ.gwu.edu (Norbert Marrale) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Date: 7 Jun 1994 13:00:38 -0400 Message-Id: <2t293m$1e8@gwis.circ.gwu.edu> References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> In article , Stephen Porter wrote: >William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: >: Cornell Tribbet wrote: >: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >: >from appearing in the recipient's header. >: The "blind" cc: command -- Bcc: -- is designed to accomplish this. [..] >Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. >With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. Create a mailing list first in your addressbook. You can enter the nickname of that list in the Bcc field. Norbert -- -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 12:08:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11032; Tue, 7 Jun 94 12:08:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11585; Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:56:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from zow00.desy.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11578; Tue, 7 Jun 94 11:56:12 -0700 Received: from zow44 (zow44 [131.169.42.100]) by zow00 (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with ESMTP id UAA10048 for ; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:59 +0200 Received: (bogusz@localhost) by zow44 (8.6.7/8.6.6) id UAA29448; Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:58 +0200 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:57:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Wojtek Bogusz Subject: Pine and PGP To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, Does any body plan to include PGP, public-key criptosystem in to pine ? May be it is already in ... ??? Best regards and please send me a copy of the reply because I am not on the list ! --- Wojtek Bogusz e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl bogusz@zow.desy.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:22:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14058; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:22:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13754; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:14:03 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: enkpl@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu (Kevin Larsen) Subject: .pine-debug1 Date: 7 Jun 1994 16:36:26 GMT Message-Id: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:50:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15214; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:50:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14553; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:44:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14547; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:44:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giangrtm@iia.org (Tom Giangreco) Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:20:37 GMT Message-Id: References: In article David L Miller writes: >From: David L Miller >Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico >Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:49:24 -0700 (PDT) >The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. Thanks...As a followup do you know were I can get a document that discribes the command line switches to stand alone AIX pico? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 13:59:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15603; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:59:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14809; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:54:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14802; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:54:04 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kippsaka@Hawaii.Edu (Kipp S Sakata) Subject: blinking .sig Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 20:14:18 GMT Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? I heard that it has something to do with editing your .pinerc file. Is that corrrect? Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... -- _ _ <@ @> +----oOO----(_)-----------+ | Kipp Sakata | | kippsaka@hcc.hawaii.edu | +------------------oOO----+ \| |__|__| |/ || || ooO Ooo From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 14:14:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16184; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:14:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15201; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:07:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 14:07:28 -0700 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA09957 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:18 -0400 Received: by rac2.wam.umd.edu id AA28911 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:07 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:07:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "-sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him." Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 To: Kevin Larsen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Jun 1994, Kevin Larsen wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. the option "-d#" is just for that... if you want NO .pine-debug# files created, run pine with the flag '-d0' (e.g. pine -d0). Or if you want lots of detail ... run '-d8' (e.g. pine -d8) ... default setting is at '2'. > > Kevin > > John "Highway" Wu | "To every thing there is a season, | Alpha Phi Omega highway@w3eax.umd.edu | and a time to every purpose under | Svc Fraternity 124 Englefield Drive | the heaven: A time to be born, | Univ of Maryland Gaithersburg, MD 20878 | and a time to die;" Eccles 3:1,2 | College Park, MD *----------------------*------------------------------------*----------------* | " ... Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman | | without the man, in the Lord. For as the woman is of the man, even so | | is the man also by the woman; but all things of God. " 1 Cor 11:11,12 | *----------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 15:26:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19115; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:26:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17145; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:14:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17139; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:14:01 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbeedle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Dave Beedle) Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Message-Id: <1994Jun7.210000.58283@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 21:00:00 GMT References: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Kevin Larsen (enkpl@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu) wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have a seek and destroy cron job that runs every night to find and delete these files (core too). I haven't looked but I would hope that there is and option to turn these things off somewhere? Maybe one of the compile options? -- Dave Beedle - Unix Support Manager - dbeedle@ilstu.edu - Network Services http://www.ilstu.edu/~dbeedle/ Illinois State University "It is better to think of church in the ale-house than 136A Julian Hall to think of the ale-house in church." - Martin Luther Normal, IL 61761 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 15:32:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19375; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:32:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17494; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:24:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17488; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:23:59 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: .pine-debug1 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:55:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t27ma$ov1@news.cs.tulane.edu> Pine only keeps the last four .pine-debug? files. If you want to turn them off completely, run Pine with the "-d0" command line option. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Jun 1994, Kevin Larsen wrote: > I am running Pine v3.89 and every time I run it a file .pine-debug? is > created. Is there anyway to prevent this file from being created, or do > I have to spend my days deleting these files as long as I use this version > of pine. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Kevin > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 16:00:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20544; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07128; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07122; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:23 -0700 Received: by stein3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18969; Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:54:18 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein3.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:54:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Disabling wordwrap in Pico To: Tom Giangreco Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Tom Giangreco wrote: > >The "-w" option to Pico will disable word-wrap. > > Thanks...As a followup do you know were I can get a document that discribes > the command line switches to stand alone AIX pico? How about 'man pico'... pico(1) pico(1) Name pico - simple text editor in the style of the Pine Com- poser Syntax pico [-f] [+_] [-n_] [-t] [-v] [-w] [-z] [file] etc. -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. [WARNING: Bandwidth Conservation Act of 1994 automatically implemented] ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 16:05:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20751; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:05:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07319; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07313; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10841; Tue, 7 Jun 94 16:00:32 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:00:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: re: Pop3 support? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mark, This is a bit premature... Although a pop3 driver is now available in the c-client libraries, it is too soon to say whether it will be included in Pine 3.90 build by default, since there is still work to be done in Pine code to make this work the way most people would expect. -teg On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Mark Crispin wrote: > Pine 3.90 will support POP3, at least in UNIX Pine. PC Pine is less certain. > > The syntax for a mailbox name will be: {server/pop3} > You will not be allowed to use any folder name other than INBOX with POP3, due > to POP3's limitations. There are many other limitations in POP3 that will > limit what you can do with a POP3 folder from Pine. Also, POP3 is noticably > slower than IMAP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 17:46:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24666; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:46:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21201; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:41:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:41:07 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA04315 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:38:58 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA19639 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:38:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Reply-To: L_Man Subject: Re: blinking .sig To: Kipp S Sakata Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Kipp S Sakata wrote: > > Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? I heard that > it has something to do with editing your .pinerc file. Is that corrrect? > Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... > Well from what I know if your computer has an ansi driver installed you can do the following " flash!!! " now if you just see the code and no flashing colors it might be: 1. your system does not have ansi installed 2. your system does not accept the ^[ (escape) chars btw the code looks like "^[[31;1;5m flashh!!! ^[[0m" if your account does not support ^[ (it turns it into [_ ) like my school account does not, I was told that you could try using a good text editor to give you a CHR$(27) signal instead of a ^[ character. I haven't tried this yet so we'll see. btw... I had asked about whether sending blinking color post was in line with netettiquette mainly because such thing like that are prohibited by most muds and frown upon on IRC because it may mess up someone's screen. A simple crtl l will stop this however. As far as I can tell this issue has not been discussed as far as posts are concerned. Another problem is that having your ansi driver installed some unscruplous individuals may pass along ANSI bombs where by a character's function has been changed to a command to the computer to format the drive. IF anyone else has anything more to contribute to this discussion or correct or expand upon what I said, please do! lawrence lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 18:28:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25763; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:28:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22199; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:24:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22192; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:24:09 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harter@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Harter) Subject: change right margin Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:44:16 GMT Is there a way to change the right margin "permanently" (e.g., reduce it by 3 or 4 characters)? -- Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 18:54:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26360; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:54:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22629; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:44:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22623; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:44:10 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevint@chinook.halcyon.com (Kevin Talbot) Subject: Re: I don't like it! Date: 8 Jun 1994 01:26:36 GMT Message-Id: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> References: >On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: >> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file back to -rw-r--r--!!! >> I have the same concern on the dial-up Internet provider I use. By default on this system, file permissions are "read only" for all users on every file in my home directory. So I changed the permissions of my home directory to "no read" via 'chmod og-r ~kevint'. This *seems* to work as it *should* prevent other users (other than root obviously) from doing a 'cd' to my home directory ('permission denied' message). This would prevent them from viewing any files that have a 'read only' permission in my home directory since other users would not be able to cd to my directory. Comments from anybody on this workaround?? Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley -- Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26894; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23187; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23181; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:02 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: How to automate Expunge? message... Message-Id: References: <2s55ai$1el@solaria.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:36:08 GMT Gary N. Boone (gboone@cc.gatech.edu) wrote: : How can I eliminate the prompt when I quit Pine that says, : "Expunge the 1 deleted message from "INBOX"? (y/n) [y]" ? : : I'd like it to do so automatically... I believe you can achieve it in the .pinerc file. Try to take a look at the instructions in that file. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26914; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23203; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23197; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:08 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:43:49 GMT Cornell Tribbet (cornell@iupucs.iupui.edu) wrote: : Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names : from appearing in the recipient's header. Try pressing Ctrl-R when you are in the header to get the full header and then you can place names on the bcc list. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:19:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26942; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:19:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23195; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23189; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hkusub!pcfong@beaver.cs.washington.edu ((| Malboro PC |) 8D) Subject: Re: ADDRESS IN DISTRIBUTION LIST Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:42:14 GMT William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: : (1) The Pine documentation says that one may use the following format : for an entry in the Address Book: : : John Doe : : But when I try to include such an entry in a Distribution List, I get a : message like, "Spaces not permitted within quotes," or some such. : : May one include real names in a Distribution List entry? Pine treats names of addressees in the form of surname and first name. I guess you can enter John Doe in two parts when you are prompted. : (2) When I send EMail to a Distribution List, is it necessary to strip : off the top entry of the list and place it on the "To:" line? Or may one : leave the "To:" line empty, and simply send the message with all the : Distribution List entries included in either "cc:" or "Bcc:"? Though not ever tried, I read a news some times ago here saying that this is possible. -- Malboro Fong Executive Officer, Development Services Section, The University of Hong Kong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 19:20:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26962; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:20:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23179; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23173; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:14:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 19:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ppyiajc@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk (Andy Cross) Subject: Alternative editor (pc-pine) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:28:27 GMT Message-Id: Quick question. Whatever I do, I don't seem to be able to configure PC-pine 3.89 to use an editor other than pico. I've set my new "editor" in pinerc, and also added "enable-alternative-editor-cmd" to my "feature-list". Yet ^_ does nothing. Is this a non-existent function, or am I missing something? Andy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 7 21:58:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00251; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:58:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26075; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:52:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26069; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:52:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Tue, 7 Jun 94 21:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevint@chinook.halcyon.com (Kevin Talbot) Subject: Re: I don't like it! (CORRECTION!) Date: 8 Jun 1994 03:41:50 GMT Message-Id: <2t3elu$qrk@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> >>On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: >>> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file >(UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I >changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought >that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook >from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file >back to -rw-r--r--!!! >>> >I have the same concern on the dial-up Internet provider I use. By default >on this system, file permissions are "read only" for all users on every >file in my home directory. So I changed the permissions of my home >directory to "no read" via 'chmod og-r ~kevint'. This *seems* to work as >it *should* prevent other users (other than root obviously) from doing a >'cd' to my home directory ('permission denied' message). This would >prevent them from viewing any files that have a 'read only' permission in >my home directory since other users would not be able to cd to my directory. >Comments from anybody on this workaround?? I goofed on the above - I should said to change the permission on my home directory via "chmod o-x ~kevint". This denies *execute* permission to others which is what will prevent them from "cd"ing to your directories and looking at stuff they have no right to look at. Changing your home directory permissions to deny read access will *not* prevent others from "cat"ing files in that directory that have the "r" permission set for "others". Thanks to those who pointed out my mistake! - Kevin Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley -- Kevin Talbot kevint@halcyon.com Compuserve ID: 75706,316 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I am not a role model. I am not paid to be a role model. I am paid to wreak havoc on the basketball court." - NBA star Charles Barkley From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 00:38:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03270; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:38:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28953; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:32:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28947; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:32:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 00:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lexdup@netcom.com (Lex Du Pont) Subject: columns = 40 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 07:06:15 GMT I'm running a 40 column display terminal which is set up in my shell correctly. ( stty cols 40) Pine does not seem to recognize this in the summary mode. How do I set it up so as not to lose half of the file index lines? -- lexdup@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:14:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04311; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:14:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16689; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU,@ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU:CMS2@ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU> Received: from uwavm.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16683; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:07:47 -0700 Message-Id: <9406080807.AA16683@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU by UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with BSMTP id 5599; Wed, 08 Jun 94 01:07:30 PDT Received: from ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU by UWAVM.U.WASHINGTON.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf008) with BSMTP id 5944; Wed, 08 Jun 94 01:07:29 PDT Received: from ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU (NJE origin CMS2@ETSU) by ETSU.EAST-TENN-ST.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9247; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 04:07:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Jun 94 03:41:32 EDT From: Bill Williams Organization: East Tennessee State University Subject: Re: blinking .sig To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) from On Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:34:19 -0700 (PDT) you said: >On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Kipp S Sakata wrote: >> Does anyone know how to create a blinking/flashing signature? ... >> Any info on this is appreciated. Thanks in advance... >> >Well from what I know if your computer has an ansi driver installed >you can do the following > >btw... I had asked about whether sending blinking color post was in line >with netettiquette mainly because such thing like that are prohibited by >most muds and frown upon on IRC because it may mess up someone's screen. >A simple crtl l will stop this however. As far as I can tell this issue >has not been discussed as far as posts are concerned. You will *never* be able to count on embedded characters to express some special format in your .sig or any other text. ANSI sequences are not necessarily used to drive UNIX type screens (the largest Pine user community, I suspect) nor are they likely to work on a PC even if it has an ANSI Screen Driver in place. Not everyone use PINE for their Mail User Agent (MUA), and MUA's tend to present data as data -- which means that unless your embedded control sequences just happen to mean something to the screen native to the viewer's machine you will be wasting your time. Even some MUA's on ASCII type machines (PC's included) will actually strip the high bit from characters in text files to prevent just such things as unwanted screen diddling due to embedded escape codes. If you can mail out into netland, then your e-mail may be viewed by any of a large number of MUA's on a large variety of machines. For example, your e-mail to this list was read, and this reply is being written, on an IBM ES/9000 MainFrame running the VM/ESA/CMS Operating System -- an EBCDIC Character System! Your ASCII control codes mean nothing to a 3270-type terminal which not only uses EBCDIC characters, it does not do screen addressing and formatting with plain escape sequences just written to the display -- even in EBCDIC. You gotta do some serious programming to format a 3270 device. My MUA: 'MailBook' written mostly in Rexx driving the CMS XEDIT environment -- MailBook by Richard A. Schafer of Texas' Rice University Best Bet: Make your .sig as attractive as you can with printable characters and don't depend on any special addressing and formatting stuff to work. That way everybody will see the same nice signature for you. --------------------------------------- Bill Williams -- ETSU Systems Support -- VM Systems AIX/UNIX Systems -- East (615) 929-6853 Tennessee Fax: (615) 929-6852 State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:17:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04396; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29929; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:12:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29923; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:12:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 07:39:48 GMT Cornell Tribbet wrote: >Is there a way to prevent the mailing list names >from appearing in the recipient's header. If it is possible to have a Bcc: field then that is the way to do it. However, this assumes that I know what Bcc actually does... I think there might be a way to do it by fiddling with you .pinerc though. -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 01:30:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04848; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:30:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16981; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:25:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from himalia.pt.hk-r.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16975; Wed, 8 Jun 94 01:25:11 -0700 Received: by himalia.pt.hk-r.se id AA13805 (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/IDA-1.4.2 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:20:18 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:18:49 +0200 (MET DST) From: Andy Eskilsson Subject: Re: I don't like it! To: Kevin Talbot Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t36oc$hc1@nwfocus.wa.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it only me, or doesn't umask solve this problem? On 8 Jun 1994, Kevin Talbot wrote: > >On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Robert Krenn wrote: > > >> I noted that Pine changes the permissions of the .addressbok file > (UNIX!) As I don't want anybody else to see who I am coresponding with, I > changed the permission of the .addressbook file to -rw------- and thought > that it would be safe... BUT when I added a new item in the Addresbook > from within Pine, Pine CHANGED the permission of the .addressbok file > back to -rw-r--r--!!! > >> /andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 06:07:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12269; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:07:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05890; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:00:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05883; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:00:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 05:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (Takashi TSUJINO) Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Message-Id: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> Date: 7 Jun 94 10:44:18 GMT References: <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> In article <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> toz@u.washington.edu (Tom Zeiler) writes: >I seem to recall reading somewhere that pine could "handle character sets >for a number of different languages", including Chinese and/or Japanese. >Can anybody tell me more about this? In Pine Technical Notes, When reading incoming email, Pine allows all character sets to pass through. Pine doesn't actually display the characters but simply passes them through; it is up to the actual display device to show the characters correct- ly. I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. --- Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp Information Processing Research Center Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 06:37:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12947; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:37:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06579; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:31:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06571; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:31:31 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 06:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alan@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz (Alan Brown) Subject: Question: turning off file browser in pico? Date: 8 Jun 1994 22:32:42 +1200 Message-Id: <2t46oa$j2k@papaioea.manawatu.planet.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit How can I create a "secure" pico? I'd like to be able to disable file browsing and/or directory changing. (This is for a *nix BBS program using pico as the fullscreen editor) I'd also like to be able to have the file broswer start in the directory that it's started in, rather than the "home" directory of the user. Is this eaily done? Answers pointing to the right spots in the source will be gratefully received. I'm somewhat of a c neophyte. :-) It'd be really great if these were command line options BTW :-) -- AB alan@manawatu.planet.co.nz == alan@manawatu.gen.nz ~~ brown_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz Manawatu Internet Services, P.O.Box 678, Palmerston North, New Zealand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 07:30:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14354; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:30:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23440; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:23:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23434; Wed, 8 Jun 94 07:23:42 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA00752; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:24:46 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA17477; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:23:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:23:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Unsubscribe To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please unsubscribe me from this mailing list... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com !"If you ever need anything Please don't ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! hesitate to ask someone else first. ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive"! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 08:29:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16366; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:29:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24485; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:18:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dxmint.cern.ch by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24479; Wed, 8 Jun 94 08:18:08 -0700 Received: from ecpdsharmony.cern.ch by dxmint.cern.ch (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA21856; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:18:04 +0200 Received: from work.cern.ch by ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20618; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:18:03 +0200 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:18:03 +0200 From: amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) Message-Id: <9406081518.AA20618@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please help! I want to unsubscribe but the server wont let me! Unfortunately our outgoing mail headers have changed since I subscribed and the machine name is now changed on the outgoing to ecpdsharmony whereas it used to be work.... All incomings get sent to work.cern.ch however, so I'm flooded with mail I NO LONGER WANT! So someone please unsubscribe amills@work.cern.ch From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 09:25:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19358; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25882; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:09:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from soda.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25868; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:09:14 -0700 Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id JAA27893; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:08:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:08:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? To: Takashi TSUJINO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? On 7 Jun 1994, Takashi TSUJINO wrote: > In article <2s3efp$nva@news.u.washington.edu> toz@u.washington.edu (Tom Zeiler) writes: > >I seem to recall reading somewhere that pine could "handle character sets > >for a number of different languages", including Chinese and/or Japanese. > >Can anybody tell me more about this? > > In Pine Technical Notes, > > When reading incoming email, Pine allows all > character sets to pass through. Pine doesn't > actually display the characters but simply > passes them through; it is up to the actual > display device to show the characters correct- > ly. > > I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. > But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, > we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. > > --- > Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp > Information Processing Research Center > Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 09:45:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20199; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:45:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11504; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:35:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11498; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:35:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 09:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: NOT GETTING MY MAIL!! Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:16:28 GMT Message-Id: <2t4jrs$2i2@news.cs.tulane.edu> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:44:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22986; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:44:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13112; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13106; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kiro@chinook.halcyon.com (KIRO News Radio--Seattle) Subject: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Date: 8 Jun 1994 15:59:54 GMT Message-Id: <2t4ptq$c6i@nwfocus.wa.com> Help!!!! I'm a DSNU (Dumbshit new user). I can't for the life of me figure out how to post to the Newsgroups from within PINE. Yours in ignorance Dan Leach -- **************** kiro@halcyon.com is KIRO 710 AM & 100.7 FM, Seattle, WA **************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:44:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23013; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:44:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13123; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13114; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:32:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barryf@iol.ie (Barry Flanagan) Subject: Setting no. of Rows Date: 8 Jun 1994 16:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <2t4sfc$2ee@barnacle.iol.ie> Hi, How can I get Pine/Pico to only use 24 lines of the display? It appears not to user the $LINES variable, and although on Linux I can do an "stty rows 24" we also use it on SCO 3.2.4.0 which doesn't support this rows arg. Thanks in advance. -Barry -- *********************************************************************** IRELAND ON-LINE, West Wing, Furbo, Galway, Ireland Tel: +353 (0)91 92727 : Fax: +353 (0)91 92726 IOL Internet Services - Dublin: 671-5185 : Galway 92711 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:45:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23076; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13147; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:33:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13132; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:33:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: columns = 40 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine was designed with the assumption that terminals are at least 80 columns wide. In practice, it can handle down to about 70 columns without degradation, but narrower than that you start losing text off the menus and such. At 40 columns, there is alot that Pine does not have room to display... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Lex Du Pont wrote: > I'm running a 40 column display terminal which is set up in my shell > correctly. ( stty cols 40) Pine does not seem to recognize this in the > summary mode. How do I set it up so as not to lose half of the file index > lines? > -- > lexdup@netcom.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 10:58:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23737; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:58:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28223; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:46:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28213; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:46:22 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA09309; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:57 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20132; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:56 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26307; Wed, 8 Jun 94 10:45:55 PDT Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:45:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Reply-To: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement To: pine-info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I'll second this request! On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked "View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing (Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional incoming folders :) ------------------------------------- ,-,,-, __ | Elmar Kurgpold | ______/ /_,' | | Network Administrator | \________________/ | University of Southern California | |\) (/ | | The Law Center | ( | oo | "My mind has wandered | ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | ) `| |--' from the flock, you see | (213)740-2571 FAX: (213)740-5502 | (___^^^^| And the flock has ------------------------------------- (____' wandered away from me" On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Petr Skoda wrote: > At the beginning of each month pine asks about moving sent-mail folder to > folder signed with month . But then it asks the deletion of the old > sent-mail-month folder. I have all the old sent-mail > folder archived, so it is annoying to answer several times No. Would it be > possible implement an extension (Yes, No, All, Quit) for this question ( > or others questions too?) > > ************************************************************************* > * Petr Skoda Phone : +42-204-85201, ext. 361 * > * Stellar Department +42-204-857361,857136 * > * Astronomical Institute CAS Fax : +42-2-881611 * > * 251 65 Ondrejov e-mail: skoda@sunstel.asu.cas.cz * > * Czech Republic aststel@csearn.bitnet * > ************************************************************************* > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:27:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24833; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:27:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14574; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:20:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14564; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:20:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eaug022@rigel.oac.uci.edu (Ed Gerstin) Subject: question on .signature Date: 8 Jun 1994 17:45:37 GMT Message-Id: <2t5041$al0@news.service.uci.edu> I have a .signature file in my directory, thus Pine includes this file whenever I compose a message. However, when I sent a message to someone with a .com address (my wife's company), she did not receive the .signature part, only the body of the message, followed by a single line (_______). On the other hand, when I experimented with sending a message to myself on my America OnLine account (also a .com addres), the .signature portion of the file _was_ included. What's up with this? Thanks in advance, Ed -- _______________________________________________________________________________ : Ed Gerstin / eaug022@orion.oac.uci.edu : To live long, : : Department of Pharmacology : it is necessary : : College of Medicine : to live slowly. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:28:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24941; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:28:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14638; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:22:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14626; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:22:01 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA00216; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:14:51 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA11666; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:14:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:14:02 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9406081714.AA11666@igor.music.qc.edu> To: ppyiajc@ppn3.physics.nottingham.ac.uk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Alternative editor (pc-pine) I'm no pine guru but what I do when pine starts up is type 'C' to compose a leter, enter the adress, subject etc. and then position the cursor in the area where you would compose the body of the message with pico. At this point I issue a '^_' command and voila my editor of choice is called. Hope this helps. Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 11:57:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26480; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:57:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15557; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:50:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15551; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:50:52 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 11:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Posting from PINE to Newsgroups Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t4ptq$c6i@nwfocus.wa.com> Don't feel so bad. News posting is not available yet. Pine 3.90 will support it though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jun 1994, KIRO News Radio--Seattle wrote: > Help!!!! > > I'm a DSNU (Dumbshit new user). > > I can't for the life of me figure out how to post to the Newsgroups from > within PINE. > > Yours in ignorance > > Dan Leach > > -- > **************** > kiro@halcyon.com is KIRO 710 AM & 100.7 FM, Seattle, WA > **************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 12:28:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28170; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:28:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16395; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:20:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16388; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:20:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbmcm@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu (David B. McMurtrey) Subject: Re: .sig before Included text?!?!?! Date: 8 Jun 1994 14:07:42 -0400 Message-Id: <2t51de$dia@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> References: <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net> <4105@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> <2su6rd$luv@inferno.mpx.com.au> Daniel Ben-Sefer (danielb@jolt.mpx.com.au) wrote: : Robert Perlberg (perl@dwrsun4.UUCP) wrote: : : From article <2s9oh6$6mc@news1.digex.net>, by tdarcos@access1.digex.net : : (Paul Robinson): : : > I noticed that, too. Pico correctly puts the signature at the bottom of : : > messages sent from news, but on mail it does it "wrong". : : Pico itself is not responsible for this. Pico is just an editor. The : : news program adds the signature to the bottom of whatever comes out of : : the editor. Pine can put the signature anywhere it wants because the : : editor is built in. : So how does one have pine put the signature at the end? Edit the following in your .pinerc to read old-style-reply=yes: # Use old style forward/reply with new text and signature below included text # Old-style-reply is obsolete, use signature-at-bottom in feature-list old-style-reply=yes pax -- mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm v o y a g e r mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dbmcm@freenet.tlh.fl.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 13:21:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00553; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:21:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17812; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:10:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17805; Wed, 8 Jun 94 13:10:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 12:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Mark R. Lindsey) Subject: Re: Random sigs??? Date: 8 Jun 1994 12:57:54 -0600 Message-Id: <2t54bi$bmh@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: awong@Emerald.tufts.edu (Kurama (Minamino Shiuichi)) writes: >Is it possible to have a random sig file at the back of each message? It's not within the realm of pine, but there are two main programs on the 'Net that do this sort of job: - Randsig: you can make it periodically pick a random sig from a file and place it in .signature - Sigcycle: goes through a file of 'one-liners' (that can be as many lines as you'd like...) each time it's called on, and can add a prefix and a suffix (each one line) around that sig. Mine, for example, is one of these; I have a sigcycle running periodically with my fave quips in a file, and then I have sigcycle configured to put a line with my name and address above the sig and a line with my home-page url after it. Sigs in the file can be separated by anything, and I use '---' at the begining of a line. Just email me if you're interested, or grab it from my home page. - Mark -- --- mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu :: Mark R. Lindsey ---------------------------- God is the tangential point between zero and infinity. ---------------------------------- http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~mlindsey --- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 16:49:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08833; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:49:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23557; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:41:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23551; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:41:49 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 16:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbutler@random.ucs.mun.ca (Graham Butler) Subject: cmsg cancel <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Control: cancel <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:04:27 GMT Message-Id: <2t54nr$onu@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> <2t5413$of1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> was cancelled from within rn. -- GRB ============================================ // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intelegere" // =========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 17:17:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10423; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:17:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24459; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:10:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24453; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:10:53 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 17:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gbutler@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca (Graham Butler) Subject: Outgoing Mail Problem Date: 8 Jun 1994 19:09:23 GMT Message-Id: <2t5513$ooq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> On several occasions when I go into Pine I get a message asking if I want to "Delete" or "Move" outgoing mail for May. I've handled this message without any complications many times before but now no matter what I do the message keeps re-appearing. There have been times when I've said "Yes" to deleting May's "sent-mail" but what gets deleted is the sent mail up to this date in June. Is anyone else having this problem? Does someone know the solution? TNT. Graham GRB ========================================== // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intellegere" \\ =============================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:08:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12858; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:08:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26757; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:01:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26751; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:01:05 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 18:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:34 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: At the present time, Pine's support of East Asian character sets is very limited. Pine knows enough to pass the ESCAPE, SI, and SO characters used by Japanese, Korean, and Chinese encodings. But Pine is otherwise not aware of multi-byte character sets. The consequence is that, with some problems, you can read messages which use East Asian characters with Pine, but it is difficult to send messages with East Asian characters from Pine. We are aware of these problems, and we have discussed them in our meetings. I expect that we will solve these problems in a future version of Pine, but at the present time it is not possible to say when this will happen. There are many pressing tasks on the Pine team's ``to-do'' list which appear to be of greater importance. It would help if we hear from users who wish to use Pine with East Asian languages. We really don't know how large the community is. Obviously, we have to dedicate our resources to projects that will be of benefit to large numbers of users. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:38:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13506; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:38:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27311; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27304; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-Id: <1994Jun7.110833.4623@aber.ac.uk> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:08:33 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Subscription and unsubscription requests for the pine-info mailing list >should be sent to majordomo@cac.washington.edu, *NOT* to the list! And what's even worse is that we get to see them on the newsgroup, as well. Could you put some kind of a filter in there, so that any mail which contains just 'unsubscribe' on a line at the beginning of the mail doesn't get through? And, maybe, even automate a reply to tell people where they should send mail to to unsubscribe to the list. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 19:47:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13731; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:47:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27507; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:40:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27501; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:40:48 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 19:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Suppressing mailing list names from header Message-Id: <1994Jun7.111416.4985@aber.ac.uk> References: <1994Jun6.095839.5944@ivax> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:14:16 GMT In article , Stephen Porter wrote: >William Smithers (billwill@netcom.com) wrote: > >: When your cursor is in the header, hit R; Bcc: will appear in the >: header. Type in after this the addresses of all recipients who are to get >: a copy but not know anyone else had gotten one. Separate the entries with >: commas, but no spaces. > >Not to seem, ungrateful for this response, but is there any other way. >With any list more than a few names long, this would be very tedious, indeed. Why? You just enter the nicknames the way you do in the To: field. You don't have to enter the whole address if the person is in your address book. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 20:33:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14596; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:33:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28343; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:21:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28337; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:21:13 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 20:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? Date: 9 Jun 1994 03:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <2t60uu$8fd@news.ysu.edu> References: <3509@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp> In a previous article, hkuo@soda.berkeley.edu ("Henry @0-0)") says: >Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? > >On 7 Jun 1994, Takashi TSUJINO wrote: > >> I am using pine for reading Japanese mail. There is no problem. >> But, writing japanese mail, there are many problems for us. Because, >> we use 8-bit 2 byte characters. I admit that I know nothing about Japanese text via computer, but here are some things that might be helpful: In order to show non-ASCII text in a mail message header, such as the Subject: line, you must encode the header lines according to (I think it's) RFC1522. Pine does not yet convert encoded header lines to non-ASCII text, but this feature will be provided soon, though not in Pine3.90. I'm not sure whether Pine will know how to generate correct headers for multi-byte languages. Pine's internal composer editor is designed for single-byte input. As I don't know how you would write your Japanese, I can only suggest making use of an alternate editor within Pine which generates the correct multi-byte characters. Perhaps the multi-lingual Emacs, or you probably have other editors which do this. Make sure the file written by this editor makes use of the character set encoding in your .pinerc, so that messages are tagged with the correct encoding. You invoke the alternate editor within Pine with the ^_ command, and it is set within the .pinerc configuration file. Pine3.90, to be released in a few weeks, will allow you to make use of this alternate editor for the message body all the time, which is useful for those languages which do not make use of the normal ASCII-based keyboard layout. (My experience is with Czech and Slovak, which sometimes use two keystrokes to generate a single letter.) Again, I really don't know what I'm talking about with respect to Japanese, but Pine should permit you to make use of local tools, such as alternate customized editors, which would support any language. If anyone who knows better wishes to correct me, please do so... -- Barry Bouwsma, back in Michigan, wishes he were in Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployed System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 23:27:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18393; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:27:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01498; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01492; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:11:10 -0700 Received: by creamy.ics.es.osaka-u.ac.jp (5.67+1.6W/6.4J.6-creamy-mx.1.128) id AA02767; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:10:49 +0900 Received: by kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp (5.61/6.4J.6) id AA27376; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:49:13 +0900 Return-Path: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:49:12 +0900 (JST) From: Takashi TSUJINO Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? To: "Henry @(0-0)" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Henry @(0-0) wrote: > Can Japanese be written by pine? Can Japanese be shown on Subject? We can't do by original-pine. We are doing enable writing in Japanese by pine. Now, I can read & write mail in Japanese by Pine. But it does't work well. So I'm hacking now. Sometime in Japanese mail, its subject is meime-encoded Japanese. --- Takashi Tsujino e-mail: tsujino@kgupyr.kwansei.ac.jp Information Processing Research Center Kwansei Gakuin University, JAPAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 8 23:48:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18778; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:48:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15574; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:31:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from werple.apana.org.au by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15568; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:31:01 -0700 Received: from adhoc.apana.org.au (root@adhoc.apana.org.au [192.188.107.106]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.9/8.6.6) with ESMTP id QAA20129 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:30:30 +1000 Received: (hock@localhost) by adhoc.apana.org.au (8.6.7/md2) id QAA24038 for apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:29:20 +1000 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:29:20 +1000 From: Warwick Hockley Message-Id: <199406090629.QAA24038@adhoc.apana.org.au> To: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Newsgroups: apana.lists.mail.pine Path: hock From: hock@adhoc.apana.org.au (Warwick Hockley) Subject: Pine as newsreader Keywords: Pine, news Organization: Adhoc, a Linux site in Melbourne, Australia Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 06:28:57 GMT Message-ID: <1994Jun9.062857.23975@adhoc.apana.org.au> Summary: Difficulties with pine as newsreader I wonder if anyone can shed any light on this one. I run pine 3.89, the Linux binary for which I grabbed from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It ran straight away without any difficulty at all. Just recently I decided to try pine as a newsreader, and made the necessary entry in .pinerc. This works fine too, except.... take a look at the following: PINE 3.89 FOLDER LIST Folder: INBOX 14 Messages -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Folder-collection ** Default for Saves ** (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ Select Here to See Expanded List ] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- News-collection (Local) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- control general junk news.announce.newusers werple.general apana.netstat apana.general apana.archives apana.announce.moderated comp.os.linux.announce aus.computers.linux sci.lang.japan apana.test apana.announce apana.policy apana.linux soc.culture.australian fido.modem fido.modem.maestro fido.modem.netcomm fido.modem.banksia apana.melb.general aus.net.aarnet aus.net.mail apana.lists.mail.pine . .. etc lib bin usr linux FILES linux-FAQ .desc.pag .desc.dir linux-HOWTO ms-dos comp.os.linux The entries after apana.lists.mail.pine, starting from the single dot, are effectively what you get if you do a ls -a on my /home/ftp directory. You can't read them, of course, or in fact do anything with them. So can anyone tell me what the hell they're doing there, and how I might get rid of them? TIA hock From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 00:30:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19595; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:30:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02741; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02731; Thu, 9 Jun 94 00:11:35 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Wed, 8 Jun 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au (Michael Sargent) Subject: IMAP programs Date: 9 Jun 1994 06:37:34 GMT Message-Id: <2t6dbe$54v@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> I am looking for a unix program which uses IMAP to test for the presence of new mail. Has anyone written such a beast already ? Sarge -- -- Missing.... 1 signature... if seen return to Michael Sargent, sarge@cs.uq.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 01:33:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21322; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17377; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:15:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17371; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:15:12 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 01:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Untitled Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:43:30 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199406090629.QAA24038@adhoc.apana.org.au> Warwick Hockley - Are you sure that you ``can't read [the entries from ~ftp that are listed in the News collection], or in fact do anything with them''? You should be able to open any of these names that point to files, as if they were one-message mailboxes. The functionality of opening files in ~ftp as newsgroups is something that will change in future versions of Pine, after Pine supports IMAP4. So you're seeing a temporary artifact of an idea that isn't going to be in future versions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 03:18:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:18:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19120; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:06:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19114; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:06:22 -0700 Received: from slave.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29148-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:03:32 +0100 Received: by slave.york.ac.uk (931110.SGI/920502.SGI) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA22245; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:34:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:34:40 +0000 From: Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: IMAP programs To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t6dbe$54v@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Me too!" Please would you reply/summarise to the list? Mike B-) On 9 Jun 1994, Michael Sargent wrote: > > I am looking for a unix program which uses IMAP to test for the presence of > new mail. Has anyone written such a beast already ? > > Sarge > -- > -- > Missing.... 1 signature... if seen return to Michael Sargent, sarge@cs.uq.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 04:09:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25268; Thu, 9 Jun 94 04:09:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07406; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:59:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:59:44 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 03:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gtr@mail.ast.cam.ac.uk (Guy Rixon) Subject: Problem with attachments Date: 9 Jun 1994 10:45:35 GMT Message-Id: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it can't display it. Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe have to set some option in .pinerc? Thanks in advance for any help Guy Rixon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:05:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28425; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:05:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11207; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11201; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:14 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldrich@panix.com (Fred Goldrich) Subject: another suggestion Date: 9 Jun 1994 09:39:08 -0400 Message-Id: <2t761s$q1e@panix.com> When a composed message is postponed, it appears in the folder list; however, it is not really in a folder, and must be retreived by using C)ompose again. Wouldn't it be better if it really did go into a folder? -- then, there could be more than one postponed message at a time. -- Fred Goldrich -- Fred Goldrich goldrich@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:05:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28445; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:05:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22990; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22984; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:52:11 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 06:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:22:45 GMT Message-Id: <2t7535$kfj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In , ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU (Elmar Kurgpold) writes: >On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new >messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked >"View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep >hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing >(Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional >incoming folders :) yes - I do! -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 07:31:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28899; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:31:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23555; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:21:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23549; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:21:27 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s9898198@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca (STORM JAMES) Subject: anonymous mailer? Message-Id: <1994Jun9.055355.24556@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 05:53:55 GMT I've heard some word of an anonymous mailer that resends mail you send to the receiver without any way for the reciever to know who sent it. Is there such a thing and how does does one use it? Fell free to email me (anonymously if you wish.) -- ______________________________________________________________________________ James R. Storm | I protest, I am NOT a MERRY MAN! s9898198@sandcastle.cosc.brocku.ca | -Worf, son of Moog. (905) 227-9571 voice | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 08:01:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29622; Thu, 9 Jun 94 08:01:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24020; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:46:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24014; Thu, 9 Jun 94 07:46:36 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA09513; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:47:39 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA28028; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:46:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:46:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: unsubscribe To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! "who belongs, ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! and who decides who's crazy?" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Smashing Pumpkins ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! Siamese Dreams ! ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:18:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03340; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:18:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25820; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:04:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25794; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:04:01 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20746; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:03:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:03:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Guy Rixon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problem with attachments In-Reply-To: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Guy, There was a bug in earlier versions of Pine such that text attachments were not typed as TEXT. So the solution is to ask the sender to upgrade. If you and the sender are already running a contemporary version (e.g. 3.89) then something else is going on, and we need more data. -teg On 9 Jun 1994, Guy Rixon wrote: > I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several > messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an > attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says > "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". > > I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all > attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything > that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it > can't display it. > > Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe > have to set some option in .pinerc? > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Guy Rixon > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:19:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03378; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:19:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15112; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:07:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aix1.ucok.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15106; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:07:03 -0700 Received: by aix1.ucok.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA25031; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:07:00 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:07:00 -0500 (CDT) From: becky owens Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info Becky Owens UCO Computer Center Internet: becky@aix1.ucok.edu 100 N. University Drive Phone: (405) 341-2980 x2858 Edmond, OK 73034-5209 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:38:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04042; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:38:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15802; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15794; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:47 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28284; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:27:45 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 09 Jun 94 18:26:15+0200 Date: 09 Jun 94 18:26:15+0200 From: becky owens Message-Id: <722782*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Mailing List From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:41:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04160; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:41:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15925; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uclink2.Berkeley.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15919; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:32 -0700 Received: by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)) id JAA09417; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:31:25 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:31:25 -0700 From: liang01@uclink2.berkeley.edu (Guanghe L Liang) Message-Id: <199406091631.JAA09417@uclink2.berkeley.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine Could you tell me more about pine? Thank you. ========= From hkuo@soda.berkeley.edu Wed Jun 8 21:08:49 1994 Received: from econ.Berkeley.EDU by uclink2.berkeley.edu (8.6.8/1.33(web)) id VAA08159; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:08:49 -0700 Received: from soda.berkeley.edu by econ.Berkeley.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17273; Wed, 8 Jun 94 21:04:42 PDT Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id VAA03905; Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:05:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? (fwd) To: china@econ.Berkeley.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: R If you are interested in using pine in Chinese, please send your suggestion to pine-info@cac.washington.edu. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Crispin To: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Kanji/Hanzi in pine? At the present time, Pine's support of East Asian character sets is very limited. Pine knows enough to pass the ESCAPE, SI, and SO characters used by Japanese, Korean, and Chinese encodings. But Pine is otherwise not aware of multi-byte character sets. The consequence is that, with some problems, you can read messages which use East Asian characters with Pine, but it is difficult to send messages with East Asian characters from Pine. We are aware of these problems, and we have discussed them in our meetings. I expect that we will solve these problems in a future version of Pine, but at the present time it is not possible to say when this will happen. There are many pressing tasks on the Pine team's ``to-do'' list which appear to be of greater importance. It would help if we hear from users who wish to use Pine with East Asian languages. We really don't know how large the community is. Obviously, we have to dedicate our resources to projects that will be of benefit to large numbers of users. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 09:45:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04270; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:45:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15917; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15911; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:31:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wkr@us.dynix.com (Keith Russell) Subject: Line Wrapping in Pine Date: 9 Jun 1994 10:56:43 -0500 Message-Id: Can anyone tell me if there's a way to turn off line wrapping in Pine? I want to send a long command to a list server, and Pine causes the command to wrap in the middle. As a result, the server interprets the message as two bad commands. You are welcome to post responses to the newsgroups, but I would also appreciate personal email, since I'm currently having problems with my news reader. Thanks. Keith Russell wkr@us.dynix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:00:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04878; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:00:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27185; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:51:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27179; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:51:06 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgflax@panix.com (Marshall G. Flax) Subject: Mail directory Date: 9 Jun 1994 12:14:13 -0400 Message-Id: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? marshall p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:16:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05680; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:16:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16698; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:02:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16692; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:02:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phil@savvy1.savvy.com () Subject: Where does Pine get local user info? Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:34:26 GMT Message-Id: <2t7cq2$as7@savvy2> Just curious... But if I send mail to someone on my local machine by typing just the username (without and machine name info) Pine automatically adds the machine name & the host name to the mailing address. ie, if I type: To: Phil Pine displays: To: Phil@savvy1.savvy.com Where is this information obtained from?? I don't mind the fact that it adds the domain name, but it is unnecessary for the machine name to be appended... ie: To: Phil@savvy.com is the desired format for our domain. Any ideas how I can eliminate the machine name from being automatically added?? I compiled Pine awhile ago, so I forgot if this is a configuration option. Thanks Phil phil@savvy.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:38:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06777; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:38:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28263; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:30:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hp427u.tus.ssi1.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28257; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:30:26 -0700 Received: from hp884b.badc.ssi1.com (hp884b.badc.ssi1.com [146.252.92.187]) by hp427u.tus.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA23782 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:23:39 -0700 Received: from hp888b.badc.ssi1.com (hp888b.badc.ssi1.com [146.252.92.153]) by hp884b.badc.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.6) with ESMTP id KAA00502 for ; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:18:21 -0700 Received: (bmeih@localhost) by hp888b.badc.ssi1.com (8.6.7/8.6.4) id KAA08607 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:28:27 -0700 From: Mei-Tjng Huang Message-Id: <199406091728.KAA08607@hp888b.badc.ssi1.com> Subject: pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:28:27 PDT Organization: Silicon Systems Inc. Email: bmeih@badc.ssi1.com Phone: (408) 383-7332 Fax: (408) 383-7338 Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] Yes, I would be interested in pine in Chinese -- ************************ * Mei-Tjng Huang * * bmeih@badc.ssi1.com * __o * Silicon Systems Inc. * -\<, * (408) 383-7332 * _ _ _ _ (*)/(*) - - ************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:56:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07510; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:56:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28694; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28685; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:34 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Shell? + questions & suggestions Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 09:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994May28.201758.19643@umr.edu> On Sat, 28 May 1994, Jim Ockers wrote: > 1) How does one run a shell command or spawn a shell in pico or pine? It > seems that if it is possible to do either of these, the functions must be > undocumented to date. On many occasions I have needed to run a shell from > within pico and have been very frustrated at not being able to. The same > would be true of pine if I were to use it on a regular basis, which I am > thinking about doing. > If you run pine with the "-z" command line option or put enable-suspend on the feature-list in your .pinerc file, you use ^Z to suspend the current Pine session. Pico also supports the "-z" option. > 2) Does the mime-encoding and decoding support uuencoding? The tech notes > indicate that what pine does is similar to uuencoding, for attaching > binary files. However, it doesn't say whether or not it actually will > uudecode or uuencode something. > MIME does not support uuencode, and Pine does not currently support any of the ad-hoc extensions floating around for it. Pine 3.90 will have more flexibility in decoding uuencoded attachments... > 3) I tried out the nntp access using PC-PINE. I am using PC-PINE 3.87. > Is it possible to post messages to usenet using C(ompose) in the pine > folder-reader? Also, how do I get pine to recognize my kill file, so > that I don't have to read through the garbage that I've already marked > for weeding out? > Posting will be supported in Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few weeks. > 4) No one on campus is running an IMAP server yet, so I don't know how > this would work. My PC has no user authentication or login, so it cannot > transmit userid or password information to a remote server. When pine > attemtps to establish the IMAP connection, to read the NFS-mounted > user/spool/mail/$user mail file, will it ask for my userid and password > on the {remote-host}? > PC-Pine will prompt for username/password when you open a connection to the IMAP server. We strongly recommend that you connect via IMAP directly to the server that actually stores your folders rather than using NFS, especially for your INBOX. > 5) Finally, if I leave the configuration setting so that the inbox is > called INBOX, as is the default, will pine know to go to the > /user/spool/mail/$user file for my mail and not to someplace like > $home/INBOX ? > Pine will use the default path for your system (e.g. /usr/spool/mail/$USER) unless it is overridden in either /usr/local/lib/pine.conf or ~/.pinerc. > Thanks in advance for the info. > > -- > Jim > > ====================================================================== > There are few foods which can't be improved by a > suitable application of barbecue sauce. > ====================================================================== > Click here for my home page > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 10:56:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07550; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:56:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17927; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17918; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:42:37 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Suggestion for improvement Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:00:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7535$kfj@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> This was just implemented a couple days ago and will be included in Pine 3.90.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994 bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk wrote: > In , ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU (Elmar Kurgpold) writes: > > >On another topic.... You can press tab repeatedly to go through your new > >messages in your inbox, and then at the end of the folder you are asked > >"View next folder XXX? (y/n/^C)?" Does anyone else wish they could keep > >hitting tab to skip over the incoming folders, as opposed to pressing > >(Y/N/^C)? (Keep in mind this is only if you have setup additional > >incoming folders :) > > yes - I do! > > -- > Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 > Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 > University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk > New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:09:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08220; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:09:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18449; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18443; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with attachments Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t6rsf$g7n@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Some old versions of Pine (e.g. 3.07) incorrectly labeled all attachments as Application/OCTET-STREAM. You should still be able to save the attachment to a file though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Guy Rixon wrote: > I have a problem with plain-text attachements. I've got saved copies of several > messages I've sent from pine which are short cover notes with the main text in an > attachment. When I view the messages, pine won't show me the attachment: it says > "don't know how to display attachment format Application/OCTET-STREAM". > > I didn't knowingly tell it to use that format. I know that pine encodes all > attachments, even 7-bit ASCII text, but I'd expect it to be able to decode anything > that it can encode! I note that pine can save the attachment to file even though it > can't display it. > > Is this behaviour a bug? Can I get a better attachment format somehow? Do I maybe > have to set some option in .pinerc? > > Thanks in advance for any help > > Guy Rixon > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:09:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08254; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:09:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29239; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29231; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: another suggestion Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:14:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t761s$q1e@panix.com> Pine 3.90 will do this. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Fred Goldrich wrote: > When a composed message is postponed, it appears in the > folder list; however, it is not really in a folder, and must be > retreived by using C)ompose again. > > Wouldn't it be better if it really did go into a folder? -- > then, there could be more than one postponed message at a time. > > -- Fred Goldrich > -- > Fred Goldrich > goldrich@panix.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:10:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08317; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29229; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29223; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:01:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Outgoing Mail Problem Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:09:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t5513$ooq@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> Check the last-time-prune-questioned setting in your .pinerc file. This should read "94.6" after your first Pine session in June.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jun 1994, Graham Butler wrote: > > On several occasions when I go into Pine I get a message asking if I want > to "Delete" or "Move" outgoing mail for May. I've handled this message > without any complications many times before but now no matter what I do > the message keeps re-appearing. There have been times when I've said > "Yes" to deleting May's "sent-mail" but what gets deleted is the sent mail > up to this date in June. > > Is anyone else having this problem? Does someone know the solution? > > TNT. > Graham > GRB > ========================================== > // "da mihi, Domine, scire et intellegere" \\ > =============================================== > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:20:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08881; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:20:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18779; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18773; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:19:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: > How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? > > marshall > > p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! > -- > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 11:34:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09411; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:34:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29967; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29957; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:25:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 11:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where does Pine get local user info? Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2t7cq2$as7@savvy2> You can adjust this by setting use-only-domain or user-domain in your .pinerc or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jun 1994 phil@savvy1.savvy.com wrote: > > Just curious... But if I send mail to someone on my local machine by > typing just the username (without and machine name info) Pine > automatically adds the machine name & the host name to the mailing > address. ie, if I type: > > To: Phil > > Pine displays: > > To: Phil@savvy1.savvy.com > > > Where is this information obtained from?? I don't mind the fact that it > adds the domain name, but it is unnecessary for the machine name to be > appended... ie: > > To: Phil@savvy.com > > is the desired format for our domain. Any ideas how I can eliminate the > machine name from being automatically added?? I compiled Pine awhile > ago, so I forgot if this is a configuration option. > > Thanks > Phil > phil@savvy.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 13:06:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14164; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:06:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02554; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:54:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from admin.aurora.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02547; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:54:15 -0700 Received: by ADMIN.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA16767; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:54:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:54:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe Subject: PINE 3.89 Screen Refreshes To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In our DEC environment, most of our VT420 terminals are configured to support multiple sessions. With session #1 being on the VAX, session #2 on an Ultrix host executing PINE, the user receives an indication that something has happened in session #2. When the user switches to session #2, the FOLDER INDEX screen is still blank -- ie, no messages received. Does PINE refresh the screen even if no new messages have been received? - Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 13:18:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14669; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:18:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22502; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:11:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22496; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:11:43 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 12:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgflax@panix.com (Marshall G. Flax) Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:07:48 -0400 Message-Id: <2t7pa4$5tf@panix2.panix.com> References: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. Much obliged. Now I can continue having directories beginning with [A-Z] and ordinary files beginning with [a-z]. marshall -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 14:19:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17149; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04932; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:11:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04926; Thu, 9 Jun 94 14:11:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jaket@netcom.com (jake taylor) Subject: Off-line Mail Composer/Rdr? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:25:42 GMT Does anyone know of an offline mail composer and mail reader specifically written for Netcom/Pine? If not a program, is there an available script? Any leads would be appreciated. THANKS! jake taylor, san francisco -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:11:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21969; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:11:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27725; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27719; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: I hate $'s!!!! Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:04:27 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tbb$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> I have imported a file using ftp, it was originally a Microsoft Word Doc, then I converted it to a txt file. My problem is that there are just too many damn columns of text to fit nicely onto my screen. It runs off just li$ (Actually, that was just pretend, but that's what it does!!) What to do? Please don't tell me I have to go to the end of each line and press the space bar. I've tired of that method... Thanks in advance _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:13:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22093; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07869; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:07:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07859; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:07:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: Moving within a document Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:06:52 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tfs$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Are there any fancy ways to move within a doc. except ^Y and ^V? Anything much like the nifty word processing programs where I can jump from word to word or to the end of the line??? (I am running PINE 3.89 on a unix machine, vt100) _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:20:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22349; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:20:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27995; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:16:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27989; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:16:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: Saving Automated Buffer? Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:11:21 GMT Message-Id: <2t5to9$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Is there any way, when using PICO in TIN, to make the automated buffer save automatically instead of prompting me each time??? Why would I want it to NOT save? If I don't save it, all it does is post a blank screen! (Not unlike my post about NOT RECEIVING MY MAIL!!! a few messages up...) _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:29:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22613; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:29:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08293; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:24:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08286; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:24:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B Horen) Subject: Alternate-Editor on VT220 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:29:37 GMT Shalom! I work from home via modem from my VT220. Recently I decided to begin using pine, rather than my favorite /usr/ucb/mail, so that I would be better able to support our users. Well, things are fine at work -- there I run a pure X11R5 environment, xterms (no SunStools stuff) -- and while composing mail I can press the Ctrl-Shift-Underscore combination and get my Alternate-Editor (vi, of course :) But back at the ranch it's a different story -- here, pressing Ctrl- Shift-Underscore gets me nada... bupkis... gornisht... I run with my terminal emulating a "cita", because the vt-emulations screw-up my listings and other things. But even if I set term=vt100, I still cannot access my Alternate-Editor in pine. Anybody run into this problem? Anybody gotta solution? ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- Jonathan B. Horen Sr. System Administrator From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:56:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23670; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:56:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29030; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29022; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:28 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bc@tequesta.gate.net (Bob Curtis) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 18:29:06 -0400 Message-Id: References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: >ubsubscribe Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... BC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:57:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23697; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:57:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29009; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29003; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:22 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Line Wrapping in Pine Date: 9 Jun 1994 22:45:56 GMT Message-Id: <2t8634$4hp@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, wkr@us.dynix.com (Keith Russell) says: >Can anyone tell me if there's a way to turn off line wrapping in Pine? I >want to send a long command to a list server, and Pine causes the command >to wrap in the middle. As a one-time solution for each time you need to do this, you can move your cursor to the start of the second line which has been wrapped, and delete the previous character, which will cause the second line to be appended to the first, with the space that ends the first line before the newline left intact. So long as you do not have need to make any further corrections to this long line, it should remain intact as a single line. Note that anything that causes Pine to make use of QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoding will result in the line being broken with the MIME continuation character ( = ) inserted. This would include making use of any 8-bit characters. The reason for breaking this line is to assure it would pass any gateways which chop lines longer than a certain length. -- Barry Bouwsma, back in Michigan, wishes he were in Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployed System Cracker and Unix Administrator, seeking work, food, warmth, companionship, free airline tickets, and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 16:57:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23723; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:57:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09023; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09016; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:51:24 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 16:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (Jsallen) Subject: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Date: 9 Jun 1994 02:08:44 GMT Message-Id: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, what? I haven't been able to find out yet... _________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen \ "If at first you don't succeed, \ University of Texas-Ex, 1993 \ lower your standards." ;) \ Tulane Medical School \__________________________________\ Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Assoc. Executive Vice-President From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:03:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26310; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:03:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10709; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:58:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10703; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:58:45 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 17:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmeush1@umbc.edu (Tim Meushaw) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 23:51:34 GMT Message-Id: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Bob Curtis (bc@news.gate.net) wrote: : amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: : >ubsubscribe : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing list. Hmmm.... ;-) -- ------------------------ Timothy A. Meushaw (tmeush1@gl.umbc.edu) University of Maryland, Baltimore County "May whatever god you believe in have mercy on your soul." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:29:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26996; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:29:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01525; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:20:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01519; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:20:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: JUSTIFY-ably dumb! Date: 9 Jun 1994 19:21:36 -0500 Message-Id: <2t8bmg$t2q@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> +--- Jsallen writes: | Does justify do anything BESIDES mess up your text? If so, | what? I haven't been able to find out yet... Hmm... I admit that it's not the greatest algorithm in the world, but it works rather well for me. (The only problem I have is with sentences with the ending punctuation enclosed by parentheses, as this one is.) [It would be nice if it would preserve my double-spaces after parens, braces, '<>', etc.] Just an op... -Jay- -- Jay B. Parker -- Mississippi State University -- jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu "But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep."-Frost From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:47:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27453; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:47:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11722; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11716; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:43:10 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id VAA08708; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:40:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Bob Curtis (bc@news.gate.net) wrote: > : amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: > > : >ubsubscribe > > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... > Actually that's not quite true - I get 2-3 of these a day from various groups. The problem appears to be that some people are still running listserv, others are running domo, and some systems converted from listserv to domo [*NOBODY* goes the other way!! :{)] That leaves people confused as to how to get off a list; when they do the old-fashioned commands they stop working, so they try anything... Standards. Gotta love 'em. Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 18:54:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27596; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:54:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11817; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:50:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11811; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:50:26 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 18:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: carrollt@netcom.com (Terry Carroll) Subject: Is there a FAQ for PINE? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 00:39:25 GMT Subject line says it all. I'm new to PINE (in a previous incarnation, I had a direct ethernet connection,and used my Mac as a mailer), and I'm finding that a lot of things I want to know about are in this newsgroup, including some things I want to know about, but didn't know I wanted to know about, if you know what I mean. Anyway, is there a FAQ for PINE, aside from the man page? Nice work, BTW. -- Terry Carroll - carrollt@netcom.com "Necessity knows no law; I know some attorneys of the same." - Benjamin Franklin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28156; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12330; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12324; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:56 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: Mail directory Message-Id: <1994Jun10.012430.5943@aber.ac.uk> References: <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:24:30 GMT In article <2t7f4l$pbp@panix2.panix.com>, Marshall G. Flax wrote: > >How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? # mail-directory is where postponed & interrupted msgs are held temporarily. mail-directory= Just fill in the deisred pathname in this line in your .pinerc file. It's as easy as that! --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28175; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02867; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:21:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02840; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:21:00 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: syb3@aber.ac.uk (Simon Bradley) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Message-Id: <1994Jun10.013032.6097@aber.ac.uk> References: <9406061513.AA10983@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:30:32 GMT In article , Bob Curtis wrote: >amills@ecpdsharmony.cern.ch (Adrian Mills) writes: > >>ubsubscribe > >Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this >newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... Because we get mail from the Pine mailing list as well as everything posted directly to this newsgroup. --Simon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:25:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28192; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:25:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02838; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02831; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:20:54 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbrown@tron.bwi.wec.com (Russ Brown) Subject: cc: mail interoperability Message-Id: <1994Jun9.124256.5462@tron.bwi.wec.com> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 12:42:56 GMT Could someone please send the specifications for cc:mail attachments to the authors of pine? It would be nice if such a feature could be incorporated, unless there are legal issues involved. Unfortunately, our company has gone whole hog into cc:mail, which has NO easy/cheap/free method of remote access over dial up lines. I would like to be able to interoperate with these people relative to binary attachments. I would hope that Lotus gets the message and adds BASE-64 MIME capability to its product. Spread the word about pine and MIME and let's get MIME to take over as fast as possible! -- "A system admin's life is a sorry one. The only advantage he has over Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare. On the other hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 19:54:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28885; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03369; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:46:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03363; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:46:44 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA08817 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:44:42 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA06261 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:44:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:43:45 -0700 (PDT) From: L_Man Reply-To: L_Man Subject: Re: unsubscribe To: Tim Meushaw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 9 Jun 1994, you wrote: > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... > > Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing > list. Hmmm.... ;-) > FYI, this is also a mail list group! i receive it by e-mail (as well as usenet) but the people who put unsubscribe are sending it to the wrong address :-( funny thing is if you cancel your article that you posted in usenet everyone on the e-mail list gets an article canceled by so-and-so message in their e-mail a real waste of bandwith! I wish they just filter those things out lawrence lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:05:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29058; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12989; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:00:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12983; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:00:19 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jerryb@eskimo.com (Jerry Kaufman) Subject: Changing the highlite to an -> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:32:18 GMT I am on a dial-up to a Unix host running SUN/OS 4.1.3, and Pine 3.89. Is there a way to change the highlite to an ->. I've looked in my .pinerc, but can't find anything pertaining. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:45:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29800; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:45:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04406; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:40:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04400; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:40:21 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Mail directory Date: 10 Jun 94 03:27:07 GMT Message-Id: References: David L Miller writes: >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: >> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? >> >> marshall >> >> p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! >> -- >> >> >> >> If a new user who does not yet have a ~/Mail file uses pine with this set in the global pine.cfg file, pine chokes. However because of long time use of elm here we need to do this for compatibility. I have wrapped pine in the following shell script: #!/bin/sh # This ensures that pine has ~/Mail/ available as a folder directory, since # pine does not check the global rc file before it creates ~/mail/, although # it can be set to use ~/Mail/ in the global or user rc. # # RSEllis - Tue May 17 08:44:15 EDT 1994 if [ -d $HOME/Mail ] ; then exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN else mkdir $HOME/Mail exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN fi -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)313-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 20:59:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00138; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:59:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04701; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04695; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:36 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24002; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:54:35 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29433; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:27:04 -0700 Received: from nova.gmi.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13480; Thu, 9 Jun 94 20:27:02 -0700 Received: by nova.gmi.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA02759; Thu, 9 Jun 94 23:30:12 EDT From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Path: gmi.edu!ellis Date: 10 Jun 94 03:27:07 GMT Message-Id: Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Mail directory References: Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5b3.0 #4 (NOV) Resent-Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:54:28 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: David L Miller writes: >Set "folder-collections=Mail/[]" in your .pinerc file. >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 9 Jun 1994, Marshall G. Flax wrote: >> How do I make pine use ~/Mail rather than ~/mail? >> >> marshall >> >> p.s. The man page implies it is hard wired. Please say it isn't so! >> -- >> >> >> >> If a new user who does not yet have a ~/Mail file uses pine with this set in the global pine.cfg file, pine chokes. However because of long time use of elm here we need to do this for compatibility. I have wrapped pine in the following shell script: #!/bin/sh # This ensures that pine has ~/Mail/ available as a folder directory, since # pine does not check the global rc file before it creates ~/mail/, although # it can be set to use ~/Mail/ in the global or user rc. # # RSEllis - Tue May 17 08:44:15 EDT 1994 if [ -d $HOME/Mail ] ; then exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN else mkdir $HOME/Mail exec /usr/local/bin/pine.BIN fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 21:16:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00517; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:16:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14282; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:10:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14276; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:10:18 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbp3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jay B. Parker) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 9 Jun 1994 22:53:47 -0500 Message-Id: <2t8o4b$c93@Ra.MsState.Edu> References: <2t89u6$5lj@news.umbc.edu> +--- L_Man writes: | On 9 Jun 1994, you wrote: | > : Why do we gat all the clueless people posting "unsubscribe" in this | > : newsgroup? It doesn't happen in other groups... | > | > Yeah, didn't know you could do that to a newsgroup, just a mailing | > list. Hmmm.... ;-) | | FYI, | this is also a mail list group! Subtlety is lost on some people. Lawrence, meet Mr. Smiley. Mr. Smiley, meet Lawrence. -jbp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:11:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02039; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06088; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:01:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06082; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:01:46 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 21:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toma@crl.com (Tom Armstrong) Subject: Export question Date: 9 Jun 1994 21:44:31 -0700 Message-Id: <2t8r3f$fis@crl.crl.com> Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Export question Summary: Expires: References: <2t5tjc$l9h@news.cs.tulane.edu> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest] Keywords: Cc: : Is there any way to export an entire forlder with one command in pine? Or : is there a way to go throug the index and mark messages to be exported : and export them all at once? It is quite timeconsuming to export messages : one at a time. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Armstrong toma@crl.com CCOF Organic Grower San Gregorio, CA Barnyard Technology--- Ideas for tomorrow -> from yesterday's scrap. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 9 22:29:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02366; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:29:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15840; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from m2xenix.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15834; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:21:40 -0700 Received: by m2xenix.psg.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.5) id ; Thu, 9 Jun 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Changing the highlite to an -> Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine will use a "->" in the index if your tty speed is 2400 or below. If you are dialing in through a terminal server, try "stty 1200" before entering Pine. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, U