From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 01:16:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27391; Fri, 1 Apr 94 01:16:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22598; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:46:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22592; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:46:05 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA00975; Fri, 1 Apr 94 00:45:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:37:38 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: MMDF format mailboxes To: Andy Powell Cc: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Mar 1994 16:37:23 +0100 (BST), Andy Powell wrote: > Now the bad news... I can't get the mmdf driver to work at all on our > MMDF mailboxes. Is anyone using these drivers with MMDF update 43 (or > any other version for that matter)? The VALID macro (from mmdf.h) is > looking for a mailbox with messages separated by 4 CTRL-A's, then a > newline, then a line like "From blah blah blah". Our mailboxes here > don't look like that :-(. They just have the 4 CTRL-A's followed by a > newline - then you go straight into the message. > > I've tried making the VALID macro much simpler (i.e it just checks for > "\001\001\001\001\n") but unfortunately routines like mmdf_parse() appear > to want to do things with that non-existant From line :-(. > > I think I need some explanation of how the "From " line is being used > and whether mmdf driver routines can be written that don't rely on > having such a line at the start of each message. Do any of the other > drivers not rely on such a line? I do not have access to any MMDF systems and have had to guess what works and what does not work from contributed code. My surmise is that some MMDF systems write a standard UNIX mbox format ``From '' line after the CTRL/A's, and others do not. c-client parses a message's ``fast internal date'' from the ``From '' line. If it is not there, then there is no way to get a ``fast'' internal date. I guess it's perhaps alright to get it to the current date; it may cause false date displays in some programs that use c-client but it can't be helped. Pine should be OK though. Since I don't have access to any MMDF systems, nor have I ever gotten a straight story on how MMDF works, there isn't much more I can add; you'll probably have to do some hacking. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help out. > BTW, I've been working with the c-client libraries from imap-3.3. You > should note that both the mmdf and bezerk drivers include (different) > definitions of the VALID macro. This may account for the difficulties in > trying to use both drivers together? No, there should be no problem with having both drivers included, since only the bezerk driver includes bezerk.h and only the mmdf driver includes mmdf.h. The mmdf driver derived from the bezerk driver (if you do a diff you'll see that they are quite similar), hence the similarity in names. -- Mark -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 07:38:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02700; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:38:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27562; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27556; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17:39 -0800 Received: by mail.teleport.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) id ; Fri, 1 Apr 94 07:17 PST Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:18:44 -0800 (PST) From: minerva Subject: imap and saving to remote mail folders To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, all- Here I am with yet another pine/imap question: How do I save mail messages from my remote inbox to a remote mail folder? I don't want to save to my local mail folders always... The on line help doesn't seem to talk much about different ways to save things other than to mention export can be used to save to one's home directory with little mail/header information; I don't believe that's what I want. Pointers? Thanks! >>-Darci-> -- ------ Love thy enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to \ --/--- Bumpersticker of the Week: "Against Abortion? Get a Vasectomy" \ \/ / Don't support discrimination -- don't support the OCA! \/\ / About Me \/ Paradise Cowgirl - minerva@teleport.com - minerva@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 08:18:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03705; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:18:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19154; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:06:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pear.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19148; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:06:02 -0800 Received: by pear.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA11967; Fri, 1 Apr 94 10:06:55 -0600 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 10:05:20 -0600 (CST) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: Viewing attachments automatically? To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a user that wants to view attachments automatically instead of going through (what he terms) 'the tedious process' of V)iewing things. Is there a .pinerc configuration variable of some sort? Hussain ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis hussain@artsci.wustl.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 08:58:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05275; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:58:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29190; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29184; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:39:43 -0800 Received: from apus.cus.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.2] (TAP id = root) by bootes.cus.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0pmmFv-000BzNC; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:39 BST Received: by apus.cus.cam.ac.uk (Smail-3.1.28.1 #136) id m0pmmFv-0004YTC; Fri, 1 Apr 94 17:39 BST Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:39:39 +0100 (BST) From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: ^K cut to end of line To: David Brownlee Cc: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I agree, strongly! On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David Brownlee wrote: > Please do NOT make this part of old-growth! > > By all means make it a option, but please don't include it in > the old-growth set! > > Old-growth enables extra feature, not makes changes to the user > interface! (As I see it :) > > David > > > D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. > <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> > Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. > > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0223-334713 +44-223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 09:12:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06325; Fri, 1 Apr 94 09:12:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29609; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29600; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:35 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19908; Fri, 1 Apr 94 08:57:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 08:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: How to customise pager in PINE 3.89? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eugene, I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish, but Pine 3.90 will include a couple features that might help. The Pipe command will allow you to route a message or MIME part through a program of your choice. Mailcap will also be supported, so you can define whatever viewers or filters you want. There are some limitations in the mailcap support, so we will be interested to get some feedback from active mailcap users. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I posted this question in comp.mail.mime couple of days ago and got no > respone, so I hope to get it here. > > I'd like to be able to invoke some shell scripts on some of my plain > text e-mail messages. It would be ideal to for me to find a way to > replace Pine's builtin text viewer with my own. How can I do this? > > Can I declare my own Attachment type - viewer pair? I tried to use > printer option, but didn't succeed because of the weird line-by-line > output. > > Thanks for help. > > -- MIME mail is welcome > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 11:41:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11081; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:41:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03050; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03044; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:44 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22739; Fri, 1 Apr 94 11:28:41 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: Viewing attachments automatically? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, We plan to improve the attachment viewer interface in a future release of Pine. Until then, I don't have too much to offer. Sorry. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi, > I have a user that wants to view attachments automatically instead > of going through (what he terms) 'the tedious process' of V)iewing things. > Is there a .pinerc configuration variable of some sort? > > Hussain > ________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy > Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 14:19:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16245; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:19:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06292; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06278; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:50 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24848; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:01:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:01:46 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: minerva Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: imap and saving to remote mail folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Darci, If the remote folder is in your primary folder collection, just give the folder name with the Save command. If it is in another collection listed on the folder-collections variable in your .pinerc file, you can change collections using ^N and ^P at the Save prompt. Otherwise, you can specify the full remote name as "{imapserver}folderpath". Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, minerva wrote: > > > Hello, all- > > Here I am with yet another pine/imap question: > > How do I save mail messages from my remote inbox to a remote mail folder? > I don't want to save to my local mail folders always... > > The on line help doesn't seem to talk much about different ways to save > things other than to mention export can be used to save to one's home > directory with little mail/header information; I don't believe that's what > I want. > > Pointers? > > Thanks! > > >>-Darci-> > > -- > ------ Love thy enemies: they'll go crazy trying to figure out what you're up to > \ --/--- Bumpersticker of the Week: "Against Abortion? Get a Vasectomy" > \ \/ / Don't support discrimination -- don't support the OCA! > \/\ / About Me > \/ Paradise Cowgirl - minerva@teleport.com - minerva@netcom.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 14:54:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17633; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:54:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28315; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:40:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28309; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:40:04 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25440; Fri, 1 Apr 94 14:39:50 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Kari Sutela Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kari, This is definitely on the to-do list, but I am not sure if it will make the next release. Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > If the set of new features in then next pine release is not locked, yet, > I'd like to make a suggestion: support for RFC 1522 (using non-ASCII > characters in headers). This is something our users miss badly. > > /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 1 16:14:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20047; Fri, 1 Apr 94 16:14:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08714; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08708; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:09 -0800 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29115; Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:58:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:58:05 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: ^T Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Matt, As you have noted, Pine currently has a wee bit of trouble handling hidden directories in the browser. We have not yet come up with a solution we are completely happy with, but it is on our to-do list... Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Since pine doesn't know how to rotate sigs yet, to read in a new one, I > have to go the ^R ^T route... Unfortunately, the only way to get into > the .sigfiles directory is to type in /home3/zarthac/.sigfiles/ then hit > ^T. Needless to say this gets annoying. Could you fix ^T so that either > I can merely type .sigfiles/ or ~/.sigfiles/ or even have it display . > files automatically? thanks > > zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Matt Simmons Bradley University, Peoria, IL > Found in the BU Scout Personals: > "Jane--I don't want to be alone again for Valentine's Day. I want to work > this out. I was just hurt that you would sleep with my best friend ... > repeatedly ... in my bed. Actually, never mind. Go to hell. John" > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 2 05:03:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03321; Sat, 2 Apr 94 05:03:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19071; Sat, 2 Apr 94 04:48:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from brain.physics.swin.oz.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19065; Sat, 2 Apr 94 04:48:26 -0800 Received: by brain.physics.swin.oz.au (8.6.8/1.46aas) (from alex@localhost) id WAA10221; Sat, 2 Apr 1994 22:46:29 +1000 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 22:46:29 +1000 From: Alex A Sergejew Message-Id: <199404021246.WAA10221@brain.physics.swin.oz.au> Subject: Port of Pine 3.89 to BSDI BSD/386 ver 1.1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Organisation: Swinburne University of Technology, Center for Applied Neurosciences X-Mailer: Sendmail/Ream v4.16c I have successfully ported pine-3.89 to run under BSDI BSD/386 version 1.1 and append the patches in the form of context diffs with respect to the distribution tree from ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail/pine3.89.tar.Z These patches are based on the distributed "bsi" port to BSD/386 Gamma 4.1 as submitted to washington by Michael F. Santangelo , and the patches to pine3.87 posted to comp.os.386bsd.apps on Oct 31 1993 by Alex Tang Get and untar the distribution tar file, run these patches out of the pine3.89 directory, then do "build bsi" (then copy the binaries to somewhere like /usr/local/bin). It would be nice if these patches replaced those based on the obsolete BSD/386 Gamma release in the canonical Pine distribution... Alex. -- Dr Alex A Sergejew, Center for Applied Neurosciences, Swinburne _--_|\ University of Technology, PO Box 218, Hawthorn, Vic 3122, Australia. / \ Internet: aas@swin.oz.au or aas@brain.physics.swin.oz.au \_.--.x/ Phone: (voice) +61-3-819 8891 (fax) +61-3-819 0856 v ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi.orig Wed Nov 10 11:24:37 1993 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 21:05:56 1994 *************** *** 31,37 **** RSH = rsh RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" ! CFLAGS = -g -O -pipe LDFLAGS = mtest: mtest.o c-client.a --- 31,37 ---- RSH = rsh RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" ! CFLAGS = -O -pipe LDFLAGS = mtest: mtest.o c-client.a *** ./pico/os_unix.h.orig Tue Nov 9 06:14:02 1993 --- ./pico/os_unix.h Sat Apr 2 20:46:14 1994 *************** *** 102,108 **** #define QcompType const void #else #define QSType int ! #define QcompType void #endif /* --- 102,108 ---- #define QcompType const void #else #define QSType int ! #define QcompType const void #endif /* *** ./pico/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:33:30 1993 --- ./pico/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:46:24 1994 *************** *** 40,49 **** # #includes symbol info for debugging ! DASHO= -g #for normal build ! #DASHO= -O CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI # switches for library building --- 40,50 ---- # #includes symbol info for debugging ! #DASHO= -g #for normal build ! DASHO= -O + #CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -traditional CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI # switches for library building *** ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h.orig Tue Nov 16 11:33:13 1993 --- ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h Sat Apr 2 21:03:18 1994 *************** *** 171,176 **** --- 171,181 ---- + /*----------------- Where does incoming mail go? -----------------------*/ + + #define MAILSPOOLPCTS "/var/mail/%s" + + /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ *************** *** 206,214 **** /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ ! #include /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ ! /* #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ --- 211,219 ---- /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ ! /*#include */ /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ ! #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ *************** *** 264,270 **** /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/lib/sendmail" #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, mail back errors, and get recipients from To, cc, --- 269,275 ---- /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/sbin/sendmail" #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, mail back errors, and get recipients from To, cc, *** ./pine/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:54:15 1993 --- ./pine/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:45:51 1994 *************** *** 57,65 **** RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make OPTIMIZE= -O PROFILE= # -pg ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG LIBES= -ltermlib LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a --- 57,67 ---- RM= rm -f LN= ln -s MAKE= make + #OPTIMIZE= -O -traditional OPTIMIZE= -O PROFILE= # -pg ! #DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG LIBES= -ltermlib LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a *************** *** 135,141 **** $(RM) os.c $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c ! osdep/os-nxt.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ --- 137,143 ---- $(RM) os.c $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c ! osdep/os-bsi.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 2 09:53:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05750; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:53:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14199; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:34:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14191; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:34:09 -0800 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29253; Sat, 2 Apr 94 09:33:44 -0800 Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:33:44 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Alex A Sergejew Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Port of Pine 3.89 to BSDI BSD/386 ver 1.1 In-Reply-To: <199404021246.WAA10221@brain.physics.swin.oz.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Alex, Thanks for the contribution! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 2 Apr 1994, Alex A Sergejew wrote: > I have successfully ported pine-3.89 to run under BSDI BSD/386 version 1.1 > and append the patches in the form of context diffs with respect to the > distribution tree from ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail/pine3.89.tar.Z > > These patches are based on the distributed "bsi" port to BSD/386 Gamma 4.1 > as submitted to washington by Michael F. Santangelo , > and the patches to pine3.87 posted to comp.os.386bsd.apps on Oct 31 1993 > by Alex Tang > > Get and untar the distribution tar file, run these patches out of the pine3.89 > directory, then do "build bsi" (then copy the binaries to somewhere like > /usr/local/bin). > > It would be nice if these patches replaced those based on the obsolete > BSD/386 Gamma release in the canonical Pine distribution... > > Alex. > -- > Dr Alex A Sergejew, Center for Applied Neurosciences, Swinburne _--_|\ > University of Technology, PO Box 218, Hawthorn, Vic 3122, Australia. / \ > Internet: aas@swin.oz.au or aas@brain.physics.swin.oz.au \_.--.x/ > Phone: (voice) +61-3-819 8891 (fax) +61-3-819 0856 v > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi.orig Wed Nov 10 11:24:37 1993 > --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 21:05:56 1994 > *************** > *** 31,37 **** > RSH = rsh > RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh > OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" > ! CFLAGS = -g -O -pipe > LDFLAGS = > > mtest: mtest.o c-client.a > --- 31,37 ---- > RSH = rsh > RSHPATH = /usr/bin/rsh > OSDEFS = -DRSH=\"$(RSH)\" -DRSHPATH=\"$(RSHPATH)\" > ! CFLAGS = -O -pipe > LDFLAGS = > > mtest: mtest.o c-client.a > *** ./pico/os_unix.h.orig Tue Nov 9 06:14:02 1993 > --- ./pico/os_unix.h Sat Apr 2 20:46:14 1994 > *************** > *** 102,108 **** > #define QcompType const void > #else > #define QSType int > ! #define QcompType void > #endif > > /* > --- 102,108 ---- > #define QcompType const void > #else > #define QSType int > ! #define QcompType const void > #endif > > /* > *** ./pico/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:33:30 1993 > --- ./pico/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:46:24 1994 > *************** > *** 40,49 **** > # > > #includes symbol info for debugging > ! DASHO= -g > #for normal build > ! #DASHO= -O > > CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI > > # switches for library building > --- 40,50 ---- > # > > #includes symbol info for debugging > ! #DASHO= -g > #for normal build > ! DASHO= -O > > + #CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -traditional > CFLAGS= -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI > > # switches for library building > *** ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h.orig Tue Nov 16 11:33:13 1993 > --- ./pine/osdep/os-bsi.h Sat Apr 2 21:03:18 1994 > *************** > *** 171,176 **** > --- 171,181 ---- > > > > + /*----------------- Where does incoming mail go? -----------------------*/ > + > + #define MAILSPOOLPCTS "/var/mail/%s" > + > + > /*----------------- Are we ANSI? ---------------------------------------*/ > #define ANSI /* this is an ANSI compiler */ > > *************** > *** 206,214 **** > > > /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ > ! #include > /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ > ! /* #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ > > > > --- 211,219 ---- > > > /*----------------- time.h ---------------------------------------------*/ > ! /*#include */ > /* plain time.h isn't enough on some systems */ > ! #include /* For struct timeval usually in time.h */ > > > > *************** > *** 264,270 **** > > > /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ > ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/lib/sendmail" > #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, > mail back errors, and > get recipients from To, cc, > --- 269,275 ---- > > > /*----- The usual sendmail configuration for sending mail on Unix ------*/ > ! #define SENDMAIL "/usr/sbin/sendmail" > #define SENDMAILFLAGS "-oi -oem -t" /* ignore dots in incoming mail, > mail back errors, and > get recipients from To, cc, > *** ./pine/makefile.bsi.orig Tue Aug 17 08:54:15 1993 > --- ./pine/makefile.bsi Sat Apr 2 20:45:51 1994 > *************** > *** 57,65 **** > RM= rm -f > LN= ln -s > MAKE= make > OPTIMIZE= -O > PROFILE= # -pg > ! DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG > > LIBES= -ltermlib > LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a > --- 57,67 ---- > RM= rm -f > LN= ln -s > MAKE= make > + #OPTIMIZE= -O -traditional > OPTIMIZE= -O > PROFILE= # -pg > ! #DEBUG= -g -DDEBUG > ! DEBUG= -DDEBUG > > LIBES= -ltermlib > LOCLIBES= ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a > *************** > *** 135,141 **** > $(RM) os.c > $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c > > ! osdep/os-nxt.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ > osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ > osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ > osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ > --- 137,143 ---- > $(RM) os.c > $(LN) osdep/os-bsi.c os.c > > ! osdep/os-bsi.c: osdep/bld_path osdep/canacces osdep/canonicl \ > osdep/chnge_pw osdep/coredump osdep/creatdir \ > osdep/diskquot.non osdep/domnames osdep/err_desc \ > osdep/expnfldr osdep/fgetpos osdep/filesize osdep/fltrname \ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 07:30:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17544; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:30:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28657; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:14:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28651; Sun, 3 Apr 94 07:14:06 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <23792-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:13:49 +0100 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:10:20 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Sherry, > > The final feature-list for Pine 3.9x is still a moving target. Some of > : > --DLM Any estimate on Sherry's key question - "when?" Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 13:56:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20238; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:56:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10335; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:15:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10329; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:15:29 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20434; Sun, 3 Apr 94 13:09:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 13:09:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Roch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: When's Pine's next Release? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The best guess at this point is late spring.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 3 Apr 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > Sherry, > > > > The final feature-list for Pine 3.9x is still a moving target. Some of > > > : > > --DLM > > Any estimate on Sherry's key question - "when?" > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 3 23:39:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25853; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:39:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17032; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:02:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17026; Sun, 3 Apr 94 23:02:22 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id CAA25413; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:02:19 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id CAA01640; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:04:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 02:04:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Reply-To: Ian Lumb Subject: PC-Pine via SLIP?? To: PINE INFO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings:- I have started playing around with SLIP recently, and was hoping to get PC-Pine (pcpine_p) running. I am using the SLIP8250 packet driver, and have successfully got SLIP'ping with Kermit, Gopher and NCSA Telnet. Although I've made the necessary mods to the wattcp.cfg, and even tried the NCSA config.tel file, my primary problem seems to be that machine names are not being resolved by the nameserver. For example, all attempts to open an inbox on some remote machine, come back with a host unknown error message. I'd appreciate any pointers :-) Ian. P.S. I also assume that the PC version of the IMAP executable is included as a part of PC-Pine, as I was unable to find anything of this sort separately. I should also point out that telnet'ing to various IMAP servers, has verified that this new service works. -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 08:14:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02451; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:14:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16439; Mon, 4 Apr 94 07:56:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16433; Mon, 4 Apr 94 07:56:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id KAA13909; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Turning off Save-folder moving To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 08:49:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03609; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:49:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17252; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17246; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28102; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:36:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 08:36:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Turning off Save-folder moving In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Robert, The simplest way is to set "last-time-prune-questioned=99.12" in your .pinerc file. This will delay the move for a few years anyway... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 09:09:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04920; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:09:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17760; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:56:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mhc.mtholyoke.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17746; Mon, 4 Apr 94 08:56:17 -0700 Received: by mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Ver_940415.01) id AA22746; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:56:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael A. Crowley" Subject: Re: Turning off Save-folder moving To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 10:01:52 -0500 (CDT) > From: Robert A. Hayden > To: Pine Info > Subject: Turning off Save-folder moving > > Is there a way to turn off the monthly moving of the save-message filter? While it doesn't really turn it off, what works is to change the "last time pruned" in .pinerc to something like 394. Then it just never occurs. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 09:55:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06814; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26005; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hub.ucsb.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25999; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:04 -0700 Received: from humanitas (humanitas.ucsb.edu) by hub.ucsb.edu; id AA16812 sendmail 4.1/UCSB-2.1-sun Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:42:02 PDT for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: by humanitas (5.57/UCSB-v2) id AA18916; Mon, 4 Apr 94 09:39:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Terri Jo Ortega Subject: wordwrap change To: pine listserver Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if this is too basic of a question for this list. How do I change the current wordwrap in Pine? I would like to change it to 60 or even 55. Should this be included in the .pinerc file? thank you. *********************************** Terri Jo Ortega Academic Computing Analyst University of California Santa Barbara English Department Santa Barbara, Ca 93106 ph-(805)893-2119 fax-(805)893-4622 internet-tjort@humanitas.ucsb.edu *********************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 11:18:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09770; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:18:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27620; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27614; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:11 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02446; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:00:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Terri Jo Ortega Cc: pine listserver Subject: Re: wordwrap change In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Terri, There have been several requests for a word-wrap-column variable in the .pinerc file. Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Terri Jo Ortega wrote: > Sorry if this is too basic of a question for this list. How do I change > the current wordwrap in Pine? I would like to change it to 60 or even 55. > Should this be included in the .pinerc file? thank you. > *********************************** > Terri Jo Ortega > Academic Computing Analyst > University of California > Santa Barbara > English Department > Santa Barbara, Ca 93106 > ph-(805)893-2119 > fax-(805)893-4622 > internet-tjort@humanitas.ucsb.edu > *********************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 11:21:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09886; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:21:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20589; Mon, 4 Apr 94 10:59:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20583; Mon, 4 Apr 94 10:59:12 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA25841; Mon, 4 Apr 94 13:59:03 EDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:58:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Reply-To: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: binaries To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hello, I have had no luck compilong pine under NetBSD 0.9 or Esix SVR4 on an intel machine. Can anyone help me? Does anyone have binaries for either of theese that I can get a copy of? Thanks much, Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 14:57:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18718; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25645; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25639; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07900; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10028; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:26:02 -0700 Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28069; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:25:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9404041825.AA28069@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1715; Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:23:39 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2170; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:23:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:21:38 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: Possible Exceeded File Size Error To: pine-info Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 15:06:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19315; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:06:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02591; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02577; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:46:00 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA64396; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:40:56 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:40:55 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Binaries for SCO-UNIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Our college has recently acquired a box running on SCO-UNIX and I was wondering if we could find a binary version of Pine to run on our machine. What are the other requirements as far as files, pathnames, etc? We would be extremely grateful if someone could throw some light on the situation. Thanks in advance, Chris Fullinfaw fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (712)274-8733x1291 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 15:31:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20020; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:31:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26606; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26596; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:35 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09061; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:13:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:13:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Binaries for SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, I understand there is an SCO port of pine on soils.agron.iastate.edu. It is not part of the official distribution and I have heard mixed reviews about it, so let us know how you fare... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > Our college has recently acquired a box running on SCO-UNIX and I was > wondering if we could find a binary version of Pine to run on our > machine. What are the other requirements as far as files, pathnames, etc? > We would be extremely grateful if someone could throw some light on the > situation. > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris Fullinfaw > > fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us > > (712)274-8733x1291 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:12:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21788; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:12:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04122; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04116; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:37 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09852; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:47:35 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18718; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:57:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25645; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:48 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25639; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07900; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:34:46 -0700 Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10028; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:26:02 -0700 Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28069; Mon, 4 Apr 94 11:25:58 -0700 Message-Id: <9404041825.AA28069@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1715; Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:23:39 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2170; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:23:39 -0400 Date: Mon, 04 Apr 94 14:21:38 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: Possible Exceeded File Size Error To: pine-info Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Resent-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent-Message-Id: Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:19:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22051; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:19:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04436; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04430; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10162; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:01:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Frank Richter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to setup an anonymous imap access In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Frank, Here's the scoop from the expert (mrc@cac.washington.edu): 1) create a file /etc/anonymous.newsgroups 2) the file(s) to be read must be either netnews newsgroups (with setup on /usr/spool/news and /usr/lib/news/active) or in ~ftp. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Frank Richter wrote: > Hi, > I have a local mailing list archive and want to make it accessible by an > anonymous read-only IMAP server. It is possible? How? > > Regards, > Frank > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Frank Richter Computing Services, Technical University Chemnitz, Germany > Email: Frank.Richter@hrz.tu-chemnitz.de (MIME welcome) | see X.500 entry > Tel: +49 (0)371 668-361 >> Alles wird besser, aber nichts wird gut... << > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 16:20:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22114; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:20:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27685; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:03:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27679; Mon, 4 Apr 94 16:03:54 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA22744; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:04:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:01:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: different beep on new message? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. Any ideas? Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 17:42:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25749; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:42:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29630; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29624; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:24 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22399; Mon, 4 Apr 94 17:25:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: different beep on new message? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The only thing Pine currently does for a beep is send a ^G. At some point we might change this, but I'm not sure how soon. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a > different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message > arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. > > Any ideas? > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 4 18:34:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26878; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:34:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07443; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from midway.uchicago.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07437; Mon, 4 Apr 94 18:20:11 -0700 Received: from ellis.uchicago.edu by midway.uchicago.edu for pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:20:09 CDT Received: by ellis.uchicago.edu (4.1/UCCO-1.0A) id AA28465; Mon, 4 Apr 94 20:19:13 CDT Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:19:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Ippokraths Karakasoglou Subject: Rich Header To: Pine Lista Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I make the Rich Header option standard instead of having to press ^R ? Thanx. Ippokratis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 00:35:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01852; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:35:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05585; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:10:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from castor.cc.utu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05577; Tue, 5 Apr 94 00:09:58 -0700 Received: from indi by utu.fi id <165707-3>; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:09:47 +0300 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:09:32 +0300 From: Kari Sutela Subject: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Pine mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use explicit cast "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this properly, so I'm asking for help. BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 01:42:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03389; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:42:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12818; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:02:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12812; Tue, 5 Apr 94 01:01:58 -0700 Received: from snail.cs.uq.oz.au by uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au id ; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:52 +1000 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:01:50 +1000 (EST) From: Jason Lee Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Kari Sutela Cc: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS > The problem is both stdio.h and unistd.h declare rename. The way around it is as follows: In stdio.h do #ifndef _UNISTD_H extern int rename(const char *, const char *); #endif In unistd.h do #ifndef _STDIO_H extern int rename(const char *, const char *); #endif And you should have no problems after that. Happy pine'ing bye ----- Internet address: jasonl@cs.uq.OZ.AU Name : Jason David Lee Assistant System Programmer Computer Science Department, Uni of QLD From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 02:41:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04053; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:41:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13875; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emoryu1.cc.emory.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13869; Tue, 5 Apr 94 02:22:28 -0700 Received: from cssun.mathcs.emory.edu by emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (5.65/Emory_cc.3.4.16) via SMTP id AA25781 ; Tue, 5 Apr 94 05:22:25 -0400 Return-Path: labsha@emory.edu Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 05:22:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Lawrence Absha III Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS for makefile.sol in the pine subdirectory. That takes care of the redefinition of rename, and it is easier to do than adding #ifdefs and such. shy /----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------\ | Shyela Aberman, 404-712-2229 | INTERNET: labsha@emory.edu | | P.O. Box 21017, Emory University | BITNET: labsha@emoryu1 DEAD!DEAD!DEAD! | | Atlanta, Georgia 30322 | UUCP: {rutgers,gatech}!emoryu1!labsha | \----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------/ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 06:55:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07605; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:55:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10564; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:29:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.188.107.10] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10552; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:29:18 -0700 Received: (from guardian@localhost) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id XAA15780; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:28:23 +1000 To: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Path: news From: guardian@werple.apana.org.au (Nick Allan) Newsgroups: apana.lists.mail.pine Subject: question about different folders Date: 5 Apr 1994 23:28:21 +1000 Organization: /etc/news/organization Lines: 18 Message-Id: <2nrp1l$fd1@werple.apana.org.au> Hi all I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this message so I'm sorry in advance. I'm new at using pine so I'm not sure if this is possible. I'm a member of four mailing lists and I would like the different mailing lists to be put in different folders on arival. eg, all the thinkpad email to go to the thinkpad folder and all the guispeak email to go to the guispeak folder. Is this possible? How would I go about setting it up. I've created folders for each mailing list but the auto diversion? Thanks for any help in advance. Regards Nick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 07:28:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08073; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:28:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11288; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:12:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11282; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:12:30 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA05347; Tue, 5 Apr 94 10:12:27 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:08:09 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: help with pine on SVR4 Esix To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I was unable to compile pine on Esix SVR4, but someone gave me an executable that does run, however it will not send mail. Our system is not running sendmail. We are using smtp. In the .pinerc file there is a line for smtp server, but when I put our host there it doesn't work. Now for the questions: What am I doing wrong? Does anyone use pine on Esix SVR4? What am I doing wrong with the smtp server line in the .pinerc, or do I have to do something on my system to make it work? And for the final question, does anyone have Esyx SVR4.0.4 with pine running correctally? Thanks much, Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 07:29:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08124; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:29:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10998; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from LL.MIT.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10992; Tue, 5 Apr 94 06:58:13 -0700 Received: by ll.mit.edu (4.1/LL-1.3) id AA03112; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:51:21 EDT Return-Path: Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:51:21 -0400 From: James Dryfoos Subject: Re: different beep on new message? To: David L Miller Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <9404050951.AA27938@LL.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915759965-673642825-765553877:#11798" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --1915759965-673642825-765553877:#11798 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:25:20 -0700 (PDT) > From: David L Miller > To: "G. H. Chinoy" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: different beep on new message? > > > Hussain, > > The only thing Pine currently does for a beep is send a ^G. At some > point we might change this, but I'm not sure how soon. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM If you feel like dealing with a little complexity, you can use procmail to do this (I assume it will run on a Next). For example, the .procmailrc command: #----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Lets play a sound file for each incoming message and continue processing # Will have to throw away the piped data and then execute the play program # Will just send the header to pipe as smaller. Wish could turn it off! :0 hc |cat > /dev/null ; /usr/local/audio/play /usr/local/audio/MeepMeep.au Does what you want for me. Of course, procmail lets you do a lot more with incoming mail. I have attached two readme files on procmail if you are interseted. -- Jim > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > > > > I have a silly question. Is there a way to make pine play a > > different beep sound than just the standard one when a new message > > arrives? We're using NeXT machines running NeXTstep 3.0. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > Hussain Chinoy > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > > 314.935.4353 > > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > > ========================================================================== James D. 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chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11401; Tue, 5 Apr 94 07:20:20 -0700 Received: by chrissy.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id KAA01797; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:19:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:19:26 -0700 From: rgaine@chrissy.raritanval.edu (Rick Gaine) Message-Id: <199404051719.KAA01797@chrissy.raritanval.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Hello, I had trouble compiling pine for NetBSD, so I ftp'd the binary, however when I execute the file I get the following error: Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) Does anyone know what this means and how I can correct the problem? Or - Does anyone hav the binary for NetBSD that works properly? Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:20:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09327; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:20:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18503; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:04:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18497; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:04:10 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA00025; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:05:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:05:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Converting folders to PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are considering a move to PC-pine. In testing it, I tried to move my current folders from the Unix box to my PC. They are in my \mail directory on my pc and they all have the .mtx extension. However, when I use PC-pine, only folders created by PC-pine can be read. Is there any way to "convert" folders from Unix pine to PC-pine? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:36:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09790; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:36:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18759; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:15:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18753; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:15:02 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA00501; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:16:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:16:15 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Spell check on PC-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any type of spell-checking on PC-pine? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:52:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10235; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:52:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19001; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:28:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18990; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:28:30 -0700 Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19258; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:23:07 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:23:06 -0500 (CDT) From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Reply-To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Subject: Pine on SCO-UNIX To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi, I obtained a copy of the pine binary for SCO-UNIX from soils.agron.iastate.edu. I then tried running it on our machine and got as far as the pine main menu when the core dumps and I get the message: "Bug in pine detected: Received abort signal" "Exiting pine" Any help in porting pine to our machine would be greatly appreciated. Also, forgive me for asking, but what are the files I need for setting up pine for our system? I first used pine less than a month ago and like it immensely. I am now trying to see if I can port it onto our new system - a box running on SCO-UNIX V386/r 3.2, but know nothing about setting up the system. Thanks in advance, Chris Fullinfaw fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (712)274-8733x1291 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 08:54:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10363; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12802; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12796; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:14 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20446; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:34:10 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:34:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Converting folders to PC-Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lisa, There is a conversion utility in development, but it is not quite ready for release yet. -teg On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > We are considering a move to PC-pine. In testing it, I tried to move > my current folders from the Unix box to my PC. They are in my \mail > directory on my pc and they all have the .mtx extension. However, when I > use PC-pine, only folders created by PC-pine can be read. Is there any > way to "convert" folders from Unix pine to PC-pine? > > > > Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu > Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 > Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 > Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 > > "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:06:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11146; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:06:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13114; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13108; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:55 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17333; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:48:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ippokraths Karakasoglou Cc: Pine Lista Subject: Re: Rich Header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ippokratis, Currently you can't, but the next release of Pine will let you configure what headers you get by default. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Ippokraths Karakasoglou wrote: > How can I make the Rich Header option standard instead of having to press > ^R ? > > Thanx. > > Ippokratis > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:06:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11177; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:06:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19355; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:41:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.188.107.10] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19343; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:41:16 -0700 Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au (yarrina.connect.com.au [192.189.54.17]) by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) with SMTP id BAA19776 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:40:21 +1000 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id AA25509 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:40:15 +1000 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17212; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:40:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Nick Allan Cc: apana-lists-mail-pine@apana.org.au Subject: Re: question about different folders In-Reply-To: <2nrp1l$fd1@werple.apana.org.au> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Nick, This is a frequently asked question, but unfortunately outside of the scope of Pine. What you need is one of the freely available "filter" programs. Some examples are filter, procmail, and deliver. Ask your local support staff if any of them are already supported at your site. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Apr 1994, Nick Allan wrote: > Hi all > I'm not sure if this is the correct place for this message so I'm sorry > in advance. > > I'm new at using pine so I'm not sure if this is possible. > > I'm a member of four mailing lists and I would like the different > mailing lists to be put in different folders on arival. > eg, all the thinkpad email to go to the thinkpad folder and all the > guispeak email to go to the guispeak folder. > > Is this possible? How would I go about setting it up. I've created > folders for each mailing list but the auto diversion? > > Thanks for any help in advance. > > Regards Nick > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:16:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11564; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:16:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13295; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13289; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:58:11 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18387; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:57:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 08:57:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kari Sutela Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kari, Start with the original distribution and add "-Dconst=" to the CFLAGS setting in the pine/makefile.sol. That seems to take care of the problem. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Kari Sutela wrote: > Has anybody managed to build pine for solaris 2.3? Pico builds nicely > (and works!) with "build sol", but I can't even get the addrbook.c module > of pine to compile. What I get is error messages like this: > > Making Pine. > cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c addrbook.c > "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 171: identifier redeclared: rename > "addrbook.c", line 200: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 204: warning: semantics of ">" change in ANSI C; use > explicit cast > "addrbook.c", line 1349: cannot recover from previous errors > cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c > *** Error code 1 > make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' > > By editing the pine include files (I seem to recall that I removed an > "#include " somewhere) I managed to get a successful compile, > but the resulting binary just coredumps while reading or writing the > .pinerc file. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to reseach this > properly, so I'm asking for help. > > BTW, this is with the SparcWorks C compiler. > > /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:29:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12037; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:29:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20092; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20086; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:37 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19768; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:07:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:07:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Lisa M. Frye" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell check on PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lisa, No, we have not found a PC spell-checker that could be sandwiched into Pine without more hacking that we have been prepared to do thus far. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Lisa M. Frye wrote: > > Is there any type of spell-checking on PC-pine? > > > > Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu > Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 > Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 > Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 > > "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:35:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12222; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:35:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20274; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:16:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20268; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:15:58 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20625; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:15:49 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We don't yet have any direct experience with the SCO port or Pine. I have talked to several people who run it without difficulty, others can't get it to work... There are only two configuration files for Pine, /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and each user's .pinerc file. You can generate a default .pinerc file with "pine -conf > pine.conf" and Pine automatically creates the .pinerc file the first time it is run. Both files have comments explaining each variable. If you have specific questions, let us know! Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > > I obtained a copy of the pine binary for SCO-UNIX from > soils.agron.iastate.edu. I then tried running it on our machine and got > as far as the pine main menu when the core dumps and I get the message: > > "Bug in pine detected: Received abort signal" > "Exiting pine" > > Any help in porting pine to our machine would be greatly appreciated. > > Also, forgive me for asking, but what are the files I need for setting > up pine for our system? I first used pine less than a month ago and like > it immensely. I am now trying to see if I can port it onto our new system > - a box running on SCO-UNIX V386/r 3.2, but know nothing about setting up > the system. > > Thanks in advance, > > Chris Fullinfaw > > fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us > > (712)274-8733x1291 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:35:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12267; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:35:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13249; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:56:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13243; Tue, 5 Apr 94 08:56:09 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id LAA25529; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:54:24 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:54:24 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Re: your mail To: Rick Gaine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404051719.KAA01797@chrissy.raritanval.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Rick Gaine wrote: > Hello, > I had trouble compiling pine for NetBSD, so I ftp'd the binary, > however when I execute the file I get the following error: > > Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) > > Does anyone know what this means and how I can correct the problem? > > Or - Does anyone hav the binary for NetBSD that works properly? Hi. I don't know if this is acceptable to you, but I have a set of diffs that you can apply to the pine3.89 source so that it will compile straight (and work too). They're located at ftp.snre.umich.edu:/pub/pine/pine3.89.NetBSD.diff Let me know if you have any problems. ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II, PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 09:45:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12646; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14083; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:23:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chrissy.raritanval.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14071; Tue, 5 Apr 94 09:23:50 -0700 Received: by chrissy.raritanval.edu (8.3/NetBSD-0.9) id MAA02184; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:22:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:22:46 -0700 From: rgaine@chrissy.raritanval.edu (Rick Gaine) Message-Id: <199404051922.MAA02184@chrissy.raritanval.edu> To: altitude@umich.edu Subject: Re: your mail Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Alex, I tried the diffs and I am still having troubles. any other ideas? Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:25:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16462; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:25:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22761; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:04:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU:JIM@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22755; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:04:53 -0700 Message-Id: <9404051804.AA22755@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU by ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3861; Tue, 05 Apr 94 13:44:02 EDT Received: from ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (NJE origin JIM@UCF1VM) by UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0513; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:44:02 -0400 Date: Tue, 05 Apr 94 13:43:54 EDT From: Jim Ennis Organization: University of Central Florida - Computer Services Subject: File Size Limit error To: Pine Info List Hello, I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:30:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16647; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:30:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16562; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:02:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from recycle.snre.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16556; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:02:49 -0700 Received: from localhost by snre.umich.edu (8.6.4/2.2) id OAA26774; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:01:13 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:01:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Alex Tang Subject: Re: your mail To: Rick Gaine Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <199404051922.MAA02184@chrissy.raritanval.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Rick Gaine wrote: > Alex, > I tried the diffs and I am still having troubles. any > other ideas? Can you tell me what kind of errors your getting? Which version of NetBSD are you running? Which version of pine are you trying to compile? ...alex... Alex Tang --- ALTITUDE@UMICH.EDU...USERW00Y@UMICHUM.BITNET -----------+ U of M, SNRE: Student and Computer Consultant II, PGP on req.| ITD/CSS Consultant, Short asian with long hair :) WWW -> http://www.snre.umich.edu/users/altitude/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:40:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17080; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16969; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:21:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU:jadkins@uniandes.edu.co> Received: from cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16963; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:21:18 -0700 Received: from cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co by CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R1) with TCP; Tue, 05 Apr 94 14:20:19 EDT Received: by cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18111; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:42 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:22:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Jerrold Andrew Adkins Subject: Practical Questions To: Pine Ques Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the best way to transfer text files to and from an IBM-comp. PC to PINE? Is there a way to have more than one address book? Is there another help manual or document for PINE? Is there a way to export and archive an entire folder from PINE or do you have to do it message by message? How can you tell when space is a problem, before it happens? Thanks in Advance, Jerrold A. Adkins, D.V.M. jadkins%cdcnet.uniandes.edu.co@andescol.bitnet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 11:45:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17237; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:45:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17027; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:23:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17021; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:23:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA08896; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:28:27 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:28:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Headers (was Re: Rich Header) To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Speaking of headers. It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that folder in as a file. I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I am currently viewing them. Thanks :-) BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 13:16:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20802; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:16:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25166; Tue, 5 Apr 94 12:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25160; Tue, 5 Apr 94 12:55:10 -0700 Received: from paddington.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <23391-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:51:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:53:30 +0100 (BST) From: David Brownlee Subject: Re: Full headers (was Headers) To: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII As postmaster here it would be *really* useful if people could forward me a message with full headers (Getting them to export it to a file then reading in would be ok though) Another vote for being able to save full headers - somehow! Thanks David D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Speaking of headers. > > It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal > with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use > the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that > folder in as a file. > > I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I > am currently viewing them. > > Thanks :-) > > BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 13:51:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21910; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:51:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20080; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:29:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20074; Tue, 5 Apr 94 13:29:08 -0700 Received: by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA02212; Tue, 5 Apr 94 16:24:43 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:24:43 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: PINE enhancement(s) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Greetings: This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you think this would be feasable for the PINE list? Enhancement: When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do this in the .pinerc file. Thanks, -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 14:37:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23360; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:37:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21225; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21219; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:22:14 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA25207; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:22:06 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:19:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: smtp server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being able to use it on my local system. Please help... Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:11:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25067; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:11:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22165; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22159; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:26 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA17202; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:10 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03253; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:10 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15169; Tue, 5 Apr 94 14:57:09 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: Headers (was Re: Rich Header) To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII YES, YES, YES! (please :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Elmar Kurgpold, Network Administrator | EMAIL: ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | | University of Southern California | VOICE: (213) 740-2571 | | The Law Center | FAX: (213) 740-5502 | | University Park | "I got the boogie, boogie, | | Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071 | in my socks!" (Where else?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Speaking of headers. > > It is now very difficult to save FULL headers to a file. I had to deal > with some spoofed mail and other idiotcies. The only way to fully use > the full headers was to save the message to a folder, and then read that > folder in as a file. > > I'd like, if possible, to be able to export full headers to a file if I > am currently viewing them. > > Thanks :-) > > BTW: A general thanks tl all of you for doing such great work. > > ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu > \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- > \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is > \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ > n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:19:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25456; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:19:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22381; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22375; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:38 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26831; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:02:31 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:02:30 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, Pine-info tends to operate in more of a discussion mode than a gather and summarize mode. Posting teh reply to the list can also reduce the number of duplicate responses you recieve as well. The general volume of the pine-info list is getting pretty high. There was some discussion about setting up a comp.mail.pine list a few weeks ago, but I have not been reading news.groups to see if anyone is following through... You can jump by typing the number if you have enable-jump-shortcut on the feature-list in your .pinerc file. Thanks for the comment and question! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:19:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25488; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:19:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22274; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22268; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:19 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU by usc.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3-USC+3.1) id AA17276; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:13 PDT Received: from hal.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03265; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:12 PDT Received: by hal.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15187; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:00:11 PDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:00:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmar Kurgpold Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'd say the load is high today, sometimes I don't get anything. There is a feature called "enable-jump-shortcut" which will allow you to jump to a message by just typing the number (and pressing Enter). Add this to your "feature-list=" line. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Elmar Kurgpold, Network Administrator | EMAIL: ekurgpol@Law.USC.EDU | | University of Southern California | VOICE: (213) 740-2571 | | The Law Center | FAX: (213) 740-5502 | | University Park | "I got the boogie, boogie, | | Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071 | in my socks!" (Where else?) | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:36:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26172; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22534; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22528; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:43 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26927; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:08:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:08:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: smtp server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It looks like pilot.njin.net is handling mail OK for you, so try setting smtp-server=pilot.njin.net in your .pinerc file. If that does not work, run Pine with the "-d9" command line option, try to send, exit pine, then send a copy of the .pine-debug1 file with a recap of the problem to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Hello, > I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send > mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also > gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I > thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I > need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it > act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being > able to use it on my local system. Please help... > > Rick Gaine > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 15:48:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26884; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:48:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28844; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28838; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:33:00 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27321; Tue, 5 Apr 94 15:32:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:32:55 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Jim Ennis Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: File Size Limit error In-Reply-To: <9404051804.AA22755@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim, Pine does save the message to a temp file which is then passed to sendmail. Is it possible that the total size of the message is exceeding the limit? If you set the smtp-server in your .pinerc file, does that get rid of the problem? Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Jim Ennis wrote: > > Hello, > > I am running Pine 3.89 on a SunOS 4.1.3 Sparc 10/41. For some reason, > all of my users who have the filesize limit set began to get the message > > sh: nnnn Exceeded file size limit > > when they were sending mail. They are able to create files with pico and > save them, so I think the problem is between pine and sendmail. Has anyone > else seen this type of problem? If this is a known problem, what is the fix? > > Jim Ennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:01:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02889; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26577; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:47:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26571; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:47:01 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02362; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:46:51 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:45:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I feel that it is a good thing that the mail goes out to the list as well as the original author. This gives everyone a chance to read more about pine and problems they may or may not have in the future. I feel that the list is funning just fine. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > Greetings: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > time or what?> > > Enhancement: > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > this in the .pinerc file. > > Thanks, > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:01:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02891; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:01:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26641; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:50:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26633; Tue, 5 Apr 94 17:50:04 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02462; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:50:02 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:48:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: smtp server To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII pilot.njin.net is not the system I am trying to run pine on. I have pine running on pilot. It is our local system which is an Esix box running Esix SVR4.0.4. On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > It looks like pilot.njin.net is handling mail OK for you, so try setting > > smtp-server=pilot.njin.net > > in your .pinerc file. If that does not work, run Pine with the "-d9" > command line option, try to send, exit pine, then send a copy of the > .pine-debug1 file with a recap of the problem to > pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. > > Thanks for the report! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > I have a binary for SCO that works on Esix, but it won't send > > mail. I tried putting an smtp server in the .pinerc file, but it also > > gave me an error. Our crappy operating system doesn't use sendmail, so I > > thought an smtp server would work. How do I set up an smtp server? Do I > > need to do anything special to either the pinerc or my system to have it > > act an an smtp server? I really like pine and it is annoying not being > > able to use it on my local system. Please help... > > > > Rick Gaine > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 18:51:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03804; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:51:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02992; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:33:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from urchin.calvin.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02986; Tue, 5 Apr 94 18:33:02 -0700 Received: by urchin.Calvin.EDU (5.65c/1.35) id AA03178; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:32:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:32:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris wrote: > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? Actually no. Most of the time subscribers to this list are *discussing* possible enhancements to pine, or *arguing* on optimum ways to use or configure Pine on various platforms. So the original poster collecting a summary of responses will not work since there will be no two way discussion involved. Also, I wonder how many "original posters" would actually compile a collection of responses and repost to the list. I agree that a lot of us would, but then again maybe not. Omi Chandiramani, happy with the ^^, ^M, ^K sequence but could be happier. ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 5 20:46:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05562; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:46:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04904; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:31:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hertz.asso.etsmtl.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04893; Tue, 5 Apr 94 20:31:20 -0700 Received: by asso.etsmtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02307; Tue, 5 Apr 94 22:08:12 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:08:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Roy Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: I feel hat pine should really have a newsgroup.... I will vote for that anytime! Pierre > I feel that it is a good thing that the mail goes out to the list as well > as the original author. This gives everyone a chance to read more about > pine and problems they may or may not have in the future. I feel that the > list is funning just fine. Yep keep it that way... > > On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > > > Greetings: > > > > This is undoubtedly one of the most mail provoking lists I am on. > > Protocol on other lists state that questions are posted to the list, > > answers are replied to via E-Mail to the author (*not* the list) and then > > the person who posted the question posted a summary to the list. Do you > > think this would be feasable for the PINE list? > > > > > two ... does the load usually subside and this is just a high-traffic > > time or what?> > Pierre Roy Porretta Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 02:48:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10928; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:48:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03767; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from castor.cc.utu.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03761; Wed, 6 Apr 94 02:20:06 -0700 Received: from indi by utu.fi id <165732-1>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:19:58 +0300 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:19:38 +0300 From: Kari Sutela Subject: Re: Pine 3.89 for solaris 2.3? To: David L Miller Cc: Pine mailing list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all the suggestions. I finally managed to get pine compiled (I decided to add the #ifndef's to unistd.h and stdio.h). However, I noticed something strange: if the global pine.conf file contains either the last-time-prune-questioned or the last-version-used entry, the solaris version of pine receives a SIGSEGV and dumps core. I know that the global configuration file probably shouldn't contain either of these entries, but our SunOS 4.1.3 binaries work perfectly even if the entries are there (the same binary runs OK even on Solaris 2.3 in binary compability mode). It's just the "pure" solaris binary that has this problem. Weird... /KS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 09:15:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20275; Wed, 6 Apr 94 09:15:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15552; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:53:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cherry.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15546; Wed, 6 Apr 94 08:52:58 -0700 Received: by cherry.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA01846; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:53:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 10:52:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: metamail extenstions for pine & NeXTstep To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, everyone! I just stumbled across mm2.7 on wuarchive and was wondering if anyone out there could share any hints to compile/configure metamail/MIME to work with pine and our system: NeXTstep 3.0 Thanks! Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 11:22:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25701; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:22:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12925; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:54:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mango.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12919; Wed, 6 Apr 94 10:54:13 -0700 Received: by mango.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA02605; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:55:08 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:53:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "G. H. Chinoy" Subject: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of those mail filters? Sincerely, Hussain ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 11:36:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26385; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:36:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18727; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:08:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from bohemia.med.utah.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18721; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:08:17 -0700 Received: from comet.med.utah.edu (comet.med.utah.edu [128.110.229.10]) by bohemia.med.utah.edu (8.6.7/8.6.5.Beta9) with SMTP id MAA07980 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:07:45 -0600 Received: by comet.med.utah.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA05627; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:08:13 -0600 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 12:08:12 -0600 (MDT) From: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Reply-To: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Subject: pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I noticed someone mentioned mm recently on this list. I know you pine folks have lots to work on, but I've had more than a few users asks for better search capabilities, and other mm like features. I guess what I'm really asking for is all of the capabilities of pine including imapd (I'm sold on it) + some of the mm capabilities -- when you guys get around to it Paul Leo e-mail paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu University of Utah Medical School paulleo@utahmed.bitnet Eccles Institute of Human Genetics Building 533 Room 2100 phone 801-585-3653 Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 fax 801-585-3910 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:01:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27375; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19514; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19506; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:34 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11220; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:44:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Paul G. Leo Jr." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Paul, We're working on it! What specifically do you most need from MM? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Paul G. Leo Jr. wrote: > > I noticed someone mentioned mm recently on this list. I know you pine > folks have lots to work on, but I've had more than a few users asks for > better search capabilities, and other mm like features. > > I guess what I'm really asking for is all of the capabilities of pine > including imapd (I'm sold on it) + some of the mm capabilities -- when > you guys get around to it > > > Paul Leo e-mail paulleo@comet.med.utah.edu > University of Utah Medical School paulleo@utahmed.bitnet > Eccles Institute of Human Genetics > Building 533 Room 2100 phone 801-585-3653 > Salt Lake City, Utah 84106 fax 801-585-3910 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:04:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:04:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14101; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14095; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:31 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11189; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:41:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:41:27 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, It is pretty easy to discard undesired mail with any of the mail filters. Here is a sample line for the "filter" program (from my .filter-rules file): if (to contains "postmaster" and subject contains "Deferred") then delete You could also have it execute a script to send a bounce message back to the sender. The other filter programs have comparable features. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? > > Sincerely, > > Hussain > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:08:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27610; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:08:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19708; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19702; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:56 -0700 Received: by stein2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18715; Wed, 6 Apr 94 11:53:44 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein2.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 11:53:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: Pine Information In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi! > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? When using procmail, add the following to your .procmailrc file: :0 * ^From.undesired-sender@domain.net roundfile Or, you could replace 'roundfile' with /dev/null to really can the email. > > Sincerely, > > Hussain -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 12:55:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29091; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:55:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15119; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:33:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14946; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:23:30 -0700 Received: from solveig.cs.tu-berlin.de by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de with SMTP id AA18920 (5.65c8/IDA-1.4.4(mail.m4[1.12]) for ); Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:29 +0200 From: Roman Czyborra Received: (czyborra@localhost) by solveig.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.7/8.6.6) id VAA27138; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:28 +0200 To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? In-Reply-To: by hussain@artsci.wustl.edu dated 1994-4- 6 12:53:26 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:22:23 +0200 Hussain Chinoy asked: > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you > DO NOT want mail from? No. > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > those mail filters? Sure, in procmail it's as simple as this: :0hW | fgrep -s -f killfile From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:19:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00668; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:19:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15416; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:44:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sadye.emba.uvm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15408; Wed, 6 Apr 94 12:44:33 -0700 Received: from banzai.UUCP by sadye.emba.uvm.edu with UUCP id AA26718 (5.65/1.23); Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:27 -0400 Received: from godzilla.PCC.COM by banzai.PCC.COM with smtp (Smail3.1.26.7 #1) id m0pocbe-0000oQC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:45 EDT Received: by godzilla.PCC.COM (Smail3.1.26.7 #1) id m0podUP-0000JfC; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:42 EDT Message-Id: From: jay%banzai.pcc.com@sadye.EMBA.UVM.EDU (Jay Schuster) Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: artsci.wustl.edu!hussain@sadye.emba.uvm.edu (G. H. Chinoy) Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:42:17 EDT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (Pine List) In-Reply-To: ; from "G. H. Chinoy" at Apr 6, 94 12:53 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] G. H. Chinoy writes: > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? If you use deliver, this is a sample .deliver file: user="$1" FROM=`header -f from $HEADER | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]'` case "$FROM" in *user.to.ignore*) echo DROP; exit 0;; esac echo "$user" -- Jay Schuster uunet!uvm-gen!banzai!jay, attmail!banzai!jay The People's Computer Company `Revolutionary Programming' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:55:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02022; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:55:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21996; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21990; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:37:11 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA10510; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:36:04 EDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:35:30 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: David L Miller Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, What kind of mail filters are you talking about? Where can I get a mail filter from? Thanks much, Rick Gaine On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Hussain, > > It is pretty easy to discard undesired mail with any of the mail filters. > Here is a sample line for the "filter" program (from my .filter-rules file): > > if (to contains "postmaster" and subject contains "Deferred") then delete > > You could also have it execute a script to send a bounce message back to > the sender. The other filter programs have comparable features. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > > > Hi! > > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you DO > > NOT want mail from? Sort of a 'call-blocker' for email, if you will? > > > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > > those mail filters? > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Hussain > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > > 314.935.4353 > > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 13:55:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02058; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:55:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21714; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21708; Wed, 6 Apr 94 13:24:51 -0700 Received: from stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu by css.itd.umich.edu (8.6.8.1/2.2) with SMTP id QAA17604; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and everything. Built-in pgp support, I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put in my two cents worth. -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 14:32:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03539; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22771; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usit.oit.unc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22752; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:12:05 -0700 Received: by usit.oit.unc.edu (5.65/TAS/11-16-88) id AA19739; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:10:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:10:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Subject: Pine over Dialup Lines To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in reverse video." This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 14:35:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03678; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:35:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17618; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17612; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:47 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13153; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:18:44 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:18:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: Andrew Douglas Inman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Keywords: pinerc, headers, configuration Summary: Reply to request for enhancements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers in your .pinerc file. Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is handled though. There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be comfortable adding PGP support. Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > everything. > > Built-in pgp support, > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > in my two cents worth. > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:05:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04820; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:05:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23701; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23695; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:24 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13704; Wed, 6 Apr 94 14:49:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:49:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thomas, I believe your guess is the correct one. You should be able to execute "stty 1200" or some such before entering Pine to get the low-speed mode. The next release of Pine will also include an option to force Pine into low-speed mode. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:25:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05549; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:25:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18854; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18848; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:41 -0700 Received: by stein3.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17272; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:06:40 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein3.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:06:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Reply-To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Andrew Douglas Inman , David L Miller In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Andrew, [items deleted] > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. > > --DLM [items deleted] Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:29:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05678; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:29:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24351; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:15:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24345; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:15:50 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HAUY3WR79S8ZFJF0@asu.edu>; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:16:53 MST Date: Wed, 06 Apr 1994 15:18:13 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi I use multiple incoming folders, (with delivery to them via procmail) and they are listed in my .pinerc I find though, that they're displayed in alphabetical order. While this may be neat and tidy, the high volume folders are at the end, meaning that I have to TAB through empty folders before reaching the ones I want. Are there any plans to change this? Regards, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:47:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:47:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24605; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:28:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24599; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:28:17 -0700 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA20468 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:20:32 -0400 Received: from libra.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA21151; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:58:42 EDT Received: by libra.naz.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA06184; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:06:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:59:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael A Naud Subject: Pine enhancement requests (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:25:13 -0400 (EDT) >From: Andrew Douglas Inman >To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu >Subject: Pine enhancement requests > > >The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > >The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. Yes, a great idea. Would love to be able to automatically insert a return-reciept-to: line. Many mailers out there can handle the request, and it would be nice to see this added to pine. ---- Michael A. Naud SNAIL MAIL: (716) 586-2525 ext.460 VOICE Nazareth College of Rochester (716) 248-8766 FACSIMILE 4245 East Avenue manaud@naz.edu E-MAIL Rochester, NY 14618-0950 USA "...you're Norma Desmond. You were big." Gloria Swanson to William "I am big. It's the pictures that got small." Holden in "Sunset Boulevard" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 15:59:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07016; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19726; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19720; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:25 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14365; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:41:18 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kevin Pinto Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kevin, The next release of Pine will display the incoming folders in .pinerc order. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Kevin Pinto wrote: > > Hi > > I use multiple incoming folders, (with delivery to them via procmail) and > they are listed in my .pinerc > > I find though, that they're displayed in alphabetical order. While this > may be neat and tidy, the high volume folders are at the end, meaning > that I have to TAB through empty folders before reaching the ones I want. > > Are there any plans to change this? > > Regards, > Kevin > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ > My mailer understands MIME > "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain > "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:19:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07579; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:19:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20163; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from red4.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20157; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:59:53 -0700 Received: by red4.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03058; Wed, 6 Apr 94 15:58:51 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Timothy F. Lee" Subject: Re: blocking email reception from certain addresses? To: Roman Czyborra Cc: "G. H. Chinoy" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Actually, can't just you use filter command and filter out the mail that you don't want to /dev/null. In this situation, you aren't getting mail from anyone that you don't want to. ;) --Tim > Hussain Chinoy asked: > > > I was wondering if there was a field (or will be a field) in the > > .pinerc which specifies a file listing addresses of people whom you > > DO NOT want mail from? > > No. > > > If this is not a native pine function, is there a script for one of > > those mail filters? > > Sure, in procmail it's as simple as this: > > :0hW > | fgrep -s -f killfile > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:19:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07617; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:19:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25291; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:00:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sfi.santafe.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25285; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:00:20 -0700 Received: by sfi.santafe.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16184; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:06:50 MDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:06:50 MDT From: scott@santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich) Message-Id: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: .conf file I just installed pine 3.89 and I don't see a pine.conf in the distribution anywhere... how do I get one? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:24:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07716; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:24:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25500; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25494; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:14 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15295; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:09:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:09:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Andrew, That approach is a possibility, but I think of it as hack to use as a last resort in case we get desparate. That is unless someone comes up with a good generic API that everyone can use ;) Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > [items deleted] > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > --DLM > [items deleted] > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > -- > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > ============================================================================== > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 16:40:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08159; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:40:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20671; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20665; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:49 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15561; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:26:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:26:35 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Scott D. Yelich" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .conf file In-Reply-To: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Scott, Run "pine -conf" to generate a template. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Scott D. Yelich wrote: > > I just installed pine 3.89 and I don't see a pine.conf in the > distribution anywhere... how do I get one? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 17:05:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09458; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:05:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26221; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:45:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sfi.santafe.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26215; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:45:45 -0700 Received: from coronado (coronado.santafe.edu) by sfi (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16966; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:52:19 MDT Received: by coronado (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02120; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:51:48 MDT Date: Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:51:48 MDT From: scott@santafe.edu Message-Id: <9404062351.AA02120@coronado> To: David L Miller Cc: "Scott D. Yelich" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .conf file In-Reply-To: Your message at 16:26:35 on Wed, 6 April 1994 References: <9404062306.AA16184@sfi.santafe.edu> >>>>> "David" == David L Miller writes: David> Scott, David> Run "pine -conf" to generate a template. David> Thanks for the request! David> --DLM ya, I got the -conf outta the tech notes... it was buried! anyway, I configure BBS systems... and they need to have the full hostname while all the rest of my hosts have to have just the domain name (or, if they have the local real host name, the reply system better do mx lookups). pine 3.89 is excellent... much better than 3.05 I also installed a new tin-- but now I see that pine can read news as well. I configure all my clients to do NNTP... so I am going to try to figure out how to make pine do that. EXCELLENT WORK PROGRAMMERS Scott ps: telnet alife.santafe.edu pps: I hate elm. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 6 17:08:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09571; Wed, 6 Apr 94 17:08:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21236; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:53:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shark.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21230; Wed, 6 Apr 94 16:53:16 -0700 Received: by shark.mel.dit.csiro.au id AA23887 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/DIT-1.3 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:53:20 +1000 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:53:19 +1000 (EST) From: Simon McClenahan Subject: This pine-info mailing list To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to be distributed in digest format.... please? I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) cheers, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 01:39:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16832; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:39:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:18:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@helios.hertfordshire.ac.uk:C.Monaghan@hertfordshire.ac.uk> Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28635; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:17:53 -0700 Via: uk.ac.hertfordshire.helios; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:17:19 +0100 Received: from altair.herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <06054-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:14:09 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:05:28 +0100 (BST) From: Colette Monaghan Subject: deleting multiple messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and answered before! 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually needing to go into the pine interface? *************************************** Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk ************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 01:41:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16886; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28483; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:06:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28477; Thu, 7 Apr 94 01:06:34 -0700 Received: by dutepp6.et.tudelft.nl id AA15431 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:05:07 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:05:06 +0200 (MET DST) From: Richard Kooijman Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > be distributed in digest format.... please? I don't agree with you. There is a lot of traffic, I know, but you and others should probably try to get a mail filter program like procmail (which I use too), and seperate Pine-info mail from other mail. At least, that is what I suspect to be the problem. > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) I won't. Richard. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:06:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17861; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:06:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29401; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:22:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from reks.uia.ac.be by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29387; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:22:01 -0700 Received: by reks.uia.ac.be (8.6.8/Ultrix4.2-C) id LAA11880; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:21:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:21:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: "W. Holemans" Subject: reading news in PC-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. Some examples would be welcome. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:16:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17990; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:16:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04661; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gallery.ncb.gov.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04649; Thu, 7 Apr 94 02:42:41 -0700 Received: by ncb.gov.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21341; Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:44:24 SST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:44:05 +0800 (SST) From: Poh Kim Wah Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See below..... Kim-Wah POH Internet : kimwah@ncb.gov.sg Network Specialist kimwah@piaget.moe.ac.sg Computer Services Branch Tel. : (65)-4709427 Ministry of Education, Singapore Fax. : (65)-4737513 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:07:37 SST From: Mailer-Daemon@gallery.ncb.gov.sg To: kimwah@gallery.ncb.gov.sg Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 550 pine-info@cac.washinton.edu... Host unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by ncb.gov.sg (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19459; Thu, 7 Apr 94 17:07:37 SST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:55:12 +0800 (SST) From: Poh Kim Wah Subject: Printing on OS/2 TCP/IP To: pine-info@cac.washinton.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using OS/2 TCP/IP as a client to access to some remote TCP/IP host. How to I print a mail to a locally attached printer (Lpt1) on my OS/2 workstations ? Is there anything I have to customise on the host pine program or my OS/2 TCP/IP setup ? Could someone pls advise me ? Thanks in advance. Kim-Wah POH Internet : kimwah@ncb.gov.sg Network Specialist kimwah@piaget.moe.ac.sg Computer Services Branch Tel. : (65)-4709427 Ministry of Education, Singapore Fax. : (65)-4737513 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 03:55:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:55:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05216; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:27:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05200; Thu, 7 Apr 94 03:26:59 -0700 Received: from sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de id SMTP-0012da3dfe2010688; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:43 +0200 Received: from sun3.lrz-muenchen.de by sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04870; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:40 +0200 Received: by sun3.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23817; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:26:40 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:39 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Wolf Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Richard Kooijman Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I also would not like to get pine-info discussions in digest format only. Perhaps it could be available in digest format additionally, but not as a replacement. Michael On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I don't agree with you. >...... >...... > > > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) > > I won't. > > > Richard. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:43:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22142; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:43:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08412; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:18:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08406; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:17:58 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA28579; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:17:51 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:17:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a command line option for pine that will forse the arrow rather then the reverse video?? On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > Thanks, > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:47:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22200; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08434; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:19:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08428; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:19:01 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA28646; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:18:55 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Andrew Douglas Inman , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, When is the next release of Pine due out? On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Andrew, > > The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers > in your .pinerc file. > > Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem > that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is > handled though. > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > comfortable adding PGP support. > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > > > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > > everything. > > > > Built-in pgp support, > > > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > > in my two cents worth. > > > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 07:54:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22312; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:54:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03440; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:12:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.175.190.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03434; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:12:43 -0700 From: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us Received: by bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA40426; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:07:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:07:41 -0500 (CDT) Subject: problem with setting up pine on SCO-UNIX To: pine-info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. ---961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've almost(?) got pine 3.89 to work on our system SCO-UNIX. The problem is I can't get it to understand somethings about our system. I've attached a debug file (.pine-debug1) that I obtained using "pine -d9". When I ran pine I got as far as the MAIN MENU of pine and then the system hangs after giving a "bad system call" message. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong, or not doing ? BTW, bandit is not the system I am trying to set pine up on. I am setting it up quest which is another system at our college. Maybe quest needs something to be done on it before I try putting pine on. Will someone please try sending mail to me at "fullinc@quest.witcc.cc.ia.us" in addition to "fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us". NOTE: bandit works just fine to get messages to me, but quest doesn't. 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IEJPT0sgLS0tLQ0KInBpbmUiIGFkZGVkIHRvIGFkZHJlc3MgYm9vaw0KDQoN CiAg ---961561087-143302914-765727661:#41086-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 08:20:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23094; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:20:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03974; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 07:47:06 -0700 Received: from marimba.cellbio.duke.edu by duke.cs.duke.edu (5.65/3.8G/4.1.3) id AA02443; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:47:00 -0400 Received: by marimba.cellbio.duke.edu (920330.SGI/920502.SGI) for @duke.cs.duke.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA14626; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:46:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:46:59 -0400 From: zhang@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu (Martin Zhang) Message-Id: <9404071446.AA14626@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: signoff Sorry, I deleted the information about how to unsubscribe this group. I will appreciate it if some one can forward me the information. Thanks. -Martin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:03:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24424; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:03:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09888; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:31:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09882; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:31:29 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA01628; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:31:06 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:29:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, How do you set up news in general? I realize that is a rather broad question, but can someone give me a step by step instruction? Reading news through pine sure would be nice. Thanks much, Rick Gaine On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > Some examples would be welcome. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:08:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25095; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:08:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10214; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:46:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10198; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:45:51 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24215; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:44:50 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Colette Monaghan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Colette, Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be available in the next release though. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > answered before! > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > needing to go into the pine interface? > > *************************************** > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > ************************************** > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:10:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25244; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:10:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10240; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10234; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24249; Thu, 7 Apr 94 08:47:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 08:47:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Wim, Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > Some examples would be welcome. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:32:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26076; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:32:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10849; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:05:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10832; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:05:21 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA02781; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:05:18 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:04:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: sendmail.cf file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I am trying to get sendmail running on an Intel machine running Esix SVR4. I am having trouble with the sendmail.cf file. Can someone that has sendmail running properly on either an SCO or ESIX SVR4 box send me a copy of your /etc/sendmail.cf file so I can use it as an example? Sorry that this question was not related to pine, but I thought this would be the best place to pose the question. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:39:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26372; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05886; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:14:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from reks.uia.ac.be by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05865; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:13:16 -0700 Received: by reks.uia.ac.be (8.6.8/Ultrix4.2-C) id SAA01763; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: "W. Holemans" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Wim, > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > U.I.A. > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:41:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26518; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:41:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05843; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:11:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05831; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:11:24 -0700 Received: from dio.physics.sunysb.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02770; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:10:30 -0700 Received: by dio.physics.sunysb.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0powf8-0003EtC; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:10 EST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:10:36 +0000 From: Eugene Tyurin Subject: Pico Question. To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug or is there something wrong with me? -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 09:59:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27230; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:59:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11653; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11646; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25531; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:36:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:36:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "W. Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Wim, > > > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? > No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. > But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local > on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > > U.I.A. > > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > U.I.A. > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:00:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27240; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:00:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06561; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06555; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:21 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25553; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:37:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We are hoping for a beta release sometime this spring... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > > Hi, > When is the next release of Pine due out? > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > > > > The next release of Pine will allow you to configure additional headers > > in your .pinerc file. > > > > Allowing the alternate-editor to manipulate the headers is a tough problem > > that we are deferring for now. We are improving the way editing the body is > > handled though. > > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > Thanks for the suggestions! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew Douglas Inman wrote: > > > > > > > > The three addition's I'd like to see in pine are as follows: > > > > > > The ability to add additional header lines in when sending mail. > > > > > > The ability to change your default editor and use it for the headers and > > > everything. > > > > > > Built-in pgp support, > > > > > > I'm sure these aren't as popular as other things, but I thought I'd put > > > in my two cents worth. > > > > > > -- Andrew (ainman@umich.edu) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:10:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27761; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:10:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11602; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11596; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:27 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25514; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:34:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:34:20 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, Not yet, but the next release will have one. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Is there a command line option for pine that will forse the arrow rather > then the reverse video?? > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > > > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > > reverse video." > > > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > > > Thanks, > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > U U | Thomas E. Rutledge, III | (919) 962-6501 > > U U N N | UNC OIT User Services | > > U U N N N CCCC | CB # 3455 Phillips Hall | INTERNET Mail address: > > UUUU N N N C | Chapel Hill, NC 27599 | rutledge@unc.edu > > N N C |--------------------------------------------------------- > > CCCC | :( "Where ever you go, there you are ..." ): > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:26:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28453; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:26:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06915; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:51:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06907; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:51:19 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04283; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:55:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:55:33 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jackie \"Oh!\" Owen" Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'll bet that the ^S is setting the scroll-lock. The next time it happens, type ^Q to turn it off. On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > > -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jackie Loucks Owen Ramapo College of NJ Network Administrator 505 Ramapo Valley Road jowen@ultrix.ramapo.edu Mahwah, NJ 07430 (201) 529-7537 "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:27:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28480; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:27:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12132; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12124; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26043; Thu, 7 Apr 94 09:57:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list Subject: Re: Pico Question. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Eugene, Try pressing Ctrl-Q after the Ctrl-S... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > > -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- > Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin > http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html > Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. > Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:41:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28993; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:41:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12415; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:09:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12385; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:08:17 -0700 Received: from nero.UVic.CA by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03339; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:08:15 -0700 Received: from harriet.UVic.CA by nero.UVic.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11552; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:07:16 PDT Received: by harriet.UVic.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01043; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:07:13 PDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:07:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Anderson Subject: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe pine-info -- Mark Anderson manderso@nero.UVic.CA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 10:59:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29742; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:59:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07824; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sirius.cc.utexas.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07785; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:30:27 -0700 Received: (from loflin@localhost) by sirius.cc.utexas.edu (8.6.8.1/8.6.6/cc-os.mc-1.2) id MAA29603; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:17 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:14 -0500 (CDT) From: Don Loflin Subject: Re: windows To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > We are currently working on a winsock-compatible version of Pine. We are > hoping to have something available for testing this summer. Any chance we could see the c-client for winsock part of "WinPine" before then? I'd like to do some development with that (a mail filter, Graphical client, etc). Have you talked to the ECSmail folks to see if they'd be willing to let you (i.e us) have that part of their code (since they based ECSmail on c-client, I believe)? --Don Loflin, UT Austin loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:14:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00408; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:14:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08374; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08365; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:12 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26941; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:53:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Don Loflin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: windows In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Don, The latest IMAP toolkit includes a winsock port that should mostly work. It is in mail/imap-3.3.tar.Z on ftp.cac.washington.edu. There are a couple small changes that have not been rolled in yet and it is still quite experimental, so let us know how it works for you! Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Don Loflin wrote: > > On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > We are currently working on a winsock-compatible version of Pine. We are > > hoping to have something available for testing this summer. > > Any chance we could see the c-client for winsock part of "WinPine" before > then? I'd like to do some development with that (a mail filter, Graphical > client, etc). Have you talked to the ECSmail folks to see if they'd be > willing to let you (i.e us) have that part of their code (since they based > ECSmail on c-client, I believe)? > > > --Don Loflin, > UT Austin > loflin@mail.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:19:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00739; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08414; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:56:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from nsipo.arc.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08408; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:56:00 -0700 Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) id AA21643; Thu, 7 Apr 94 10:55:49 PDT Received: by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (5.65/SunOS-4.1.3) id AA07852; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:53:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:53:35 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Eugene Tyurin Cc: Pine-Info list In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Eugene Tyurin wrote: > > I noticed that when I accidentally hit Ctrl-X Ctrl-S (a'la Emacs) trying > to save file, the whole thing gets hung and I usually end up having to > kill _both_ pico and shell processes. What can I do about it: is it a bug > or is there something wrong with me? > Did you try typing ^Q after the ^S? +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | reflect those of the NSI program, | |+1-202-434-8954 | NASA, my employer, or anyone else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:25:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:25:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08678; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08672; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:47 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04939; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:08:43 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 07 Apr 94 19:58:38+0200 Date: 07 Apr 94 19:58:38+0200 From: Mark Anderson Message-Id: <639848*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine-Info list From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:52:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01995; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:52:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09391; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09385; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:28 -0700 Received: from dio.physics.sunysb.edu by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05242; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:38:21 -0700 Received: by dio.physics.sunysb.edu (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0poyyJ-0003HVC; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:38 EST Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:38:34 +0000 From: Eugene Tyurin Reply-To: Eugene Tyurin Subject: Re: Pico Question. To: Pine-Info list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Oh well, :-( I've got so many replies -- I apologize for my stupidity. Just never use scroll-lock. -- MIME mail is welcome -- finger for PGP PKB -- Active Ingredient: Eugene Tyurin http://insti.physics.sunysb.edu:80/~gene/plan.html Bio-degradable, made of 100% recycled substance. Handle with care: fragile, toxic and flammable. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 11:53:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02027; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:53:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14345; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:35:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from picard.cs.wisc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14339; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:35:35 -0700 Received: by picard.cs.wisc.edu; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:35:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:35:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Johnny Nintendo Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Richard Kooijman Cc: Simon McClenahan , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Richard Kooijman wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > > > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I don't agree with you. > There is a lot of traffic, I know, but you and others should > probably try to get a mail filter program like procmail (which I use > too), and seperate Pine-info mail from other mail. At least, that > is what I suspect to be the problem. Hello, I am a fair new comer to Internet, would you tell me where can I gett he filter program like procmail ? Thanks for your help. Keep in touch ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:18:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02911; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:18:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14965; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14959; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:31 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10024; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:03:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:03:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: David L Miller , "W. Holemans" Subject: Re: reading news in PC-pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Favorite-Drink: Orange Juice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Sorry, remote .newsrc files are a couple releases away yet... However... Wim may be thinking about access to new via IMAP. (Ultra-brief tutorial for news-impoverished Pine enthusiasts follows.) Two ways to access news via Pine: 1. Via NNTP. Your newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. pinerc entry: news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu/nntp}[*] 2. Via IMAP. Your newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. pinerc entry: news-collections=News *{news.wherever.edu}[*] The advantage of option #2 is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. Caveats: Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to Post news Pine 3.89 doesn't know how to subscribe/unsubscribe (the newsrc must already exist.) 3.90 will have both posting and subscription As David notes, a version *after* 3.90 will support "location independence" of support files such as .newsrc, so that you can use the same .newsrc from multiple platforms, even if you don't have an account on the news server. -teg > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Wim, > > > > > > Did you copy your .newsrc file from your Unix account to \NEWSRC on your PC? > > No, i didn't. I just did so after your message and now it seems to work. > > But isn't there a way to use the remote .newsrc file instead of the local > > on the PC and update this one just as is done with unix-pine ? > > > > > > --DLM > > > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, W. Holemans wrote: > > > > > > > How do you set up news in PC-pine ? Using the same syntax as on our unix > > > > machine keeps giving an error about a \NEWSRC file that couldn't be > > > > created. As unix-pine works ok, i assume that our imapd is ok. > > > > > > > > Some examples would be welcome. > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > > > U.I.A. > > > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 > > Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 > > U.I.A. > > e-mail : wim.holemans@uia.ac.be > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:44:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04039; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:44:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10481; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:31:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10475; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:31:42 -0700 Received: by eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA15651; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:31:38 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Buffer for addresses To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to "paste" an address from the list into the text of a message? Remembring the complete address while paging through the menus taxes my little grey cells.... especially when it is an arbitrary collection of characters :-) Putnam Barber pbarber@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 12:54:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04525; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:54:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15692; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:40:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from utsw.swmed.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15686; Thu, 7 Apr 94 12:40:46 -0700 Received: from iliad.swmed.edu by UTSW.SWMED.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #3937) id <01HAWB5VVHGG9EYWEN@UTSW.SWMED.EDU>; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:41:54 CDT Received: by iliad.swmed.edu (920330.SGI/911001.SGI) for @utsw.swmed.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA11663; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:48:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1994 14:48:12 -0500 (CDT) From: "Daniel P. Joy" Subject: Re: l after pine In-Reply-To: To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > > On Wed, 16 Mar 1994, Daniel P. Joy wrote: > > > > > I have aliased l to be ls -CF. Sometimes when I exit pine I get a directory > > listing in the format of ls -CF. The history command does not show a ls. > > Any ideas? > > I have finally been able to duplicate this behavior. Sometimes when exiting I hit "q" and "w" about the same time. This is an operator error caused by lazy fingers... This bug (?) only occurs if old-growth or quit-without-confirm is set in .pinerc. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel Joy Systems Manager Internet: joy@howie.swmed.edu Howard Hughes Medical Institute Phone: (214) 648-5034 UT Southwestern Medical School From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 13:37:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06718; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16828; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16822; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:10 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29712; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:23:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Putnam Barber Cc: PINE mailing list Subject: Re: Buffer for addresses In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Putnam, Hmmm... you want to take an address from your addressbook and insert it into the body of a message? Try this little procedure: 1. Move the cursor to the CC line. 2. Enter the nickname or press ^T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use ^K to delete that address from the CC line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press ^U to insert the address. This is kind of a round-about way to get the job done, but it will work... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Putnam Barber wrote: > > Is there any way to "paste" an address from the list into the text of a > message? Remembring the complete address while paging through the menus > taxes my little grey cells.... especially when it is an arbitrary > collection of characters :-) > > Putnam Barber > pbarber@eskimo.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 13:51:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07204; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:51:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11974; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:31:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from guava.wustl.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11968; Thu, 7 Apr 94 13:31:57 -0700 Received: by guava.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA27184; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:32:07 -0500 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:26:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Subject: making sure read-messages go into the right place To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, everyone. We're still using 3.87 on a NeXTstep 3.0 (BSD) system (just in case you need to know) and I just discovered the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf (or .pinerc) read-message-folder option. My question is how can you be sure that the read messages are stored in the users home directory? When I tried it with this line: read-message-folder=~$USER/mail/read-messages Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in [wholepath]' --- sometimes the whole path is TOO LARGE for the screen and I thought people might get confused if they just saw: 'save x messages in /Students/c/ghchinoy/mai ?' Alternately, I tried this pine-conf line: read-message-folder=mail/read-messages Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in mail/read-messages ?' Does this mean that if you had changed your current working directory to something else, say /, before invoking pine you'd save all your messages to /mail/read-messages instead of the correct ~user/mail/read-messages? I'm a bit confused about where this mail'd go. Thanks for any of your help, Hussain Chinoy ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 14:41:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08590; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:41:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18064; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18058; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:07 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00641; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Hussain Chinoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: making sure read-messages go into the right place In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, Pine *never* looks at the "current" directory. There will be an option in Pine 3.90 that will allow it for export and read operations, but not for folders. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Hussain Chinoy wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > We're still using 3.87 on a NeXTstep 3.0 (BSD) system (just in case you > need to know) and I just discovered the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf > (or .pinerc) read-message-folder option. > > My question is how can you be sure that the read messages are stored > in the users home directory? > When I tried it with this line: > > read-message-folder=~$USER/mail/read-messages > > Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in [wholepath]' --- > sometimes the whole path is TOO LARGE for the screen and I thought people > might get confused if they just saw: > 'save x messages in /Students/c/ghchinoy/mai ?' > > Alternately, I tried this pine-conf line: > > read-message-folder=mail/read-messages > > Which asks when you quit pine, 'save x messages in mail/read-messages ?' > Does this mean that if you had changed your current working > directory to something else, say /, before invoking pine you'd save all > your messages to /mail/read-messages instead of the correct > ~user/mail/read-messages? > > I'm a bit confused about where this mail'd go. > > Thanks for any of your help, > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 7 16:21:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12612; Thu, 7 Apr 94 16:21:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20137; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20131; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02932; Thu, 7 Apr 94 15:58:06 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:58:05 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us, fullinc@quest.witcc.cc.ia.us Cc: pine-info Subject: Re: problem with setting up pine on SCO-UNIX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: World X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1999013025-765759485=:23047" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. --0-1999013025-765759485=:23047 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Chris, The .pine-debug1 file you attached was at the default debug level (2) and does not show anything out of the ordinary. I have never seen the code for the SCO port that is floating around, so I don't know what it might be doing unusual. Did it produce a "core" file when it crashed? If so, do you have a symbolic debugger you can get a stack trace with? Thanks for the report! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994 fullinc@bandit.witcc.cc.ia.us wrote: > Hi, > > I've almost(?) got pine 3.89 to work on our system SCO-UNIX. 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Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know there is a flag you can give to cause pine not to generate the debug files, but is there a compilation time option you can set to prevent this? We've got tons of users wasting disk space generating debug files that will never get used. _O_ Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@csulb.edu | Academic Computing Services url : http://www.acs.csulb.edu/~vamp/ | CSU Long Beach - Network Support pgpkey: finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 01:50:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23995; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:50:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23944; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:24:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23938; Fri, 8 Apr 94 01:24:46 -0700 Received: from brighton.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <21395-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:20:30 +0100 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:22:59 +0100 (BST) From: "Norman R. McBride" Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two small comments... It would be nice to be able to execute pine in shell scripts (so I can automatically mail people files using my pine addressbook aliases, and including my .sig) with the command 'pine spod < file'. Can you add this to the infamous to-do list ? Puh-lease ? The second thing, could the aforementioned to-do list be posted to the maillist at intervals ? This may stop the barrage of requests for the same feature... N. .-----------------------[ N.R.McBride@city.ac.uk ]-----------------------. |'Bloody instructions which, being learned, return to plague the inventor' | | -Shakespeare, on debugging | | | | Norman R. McBride - Computer officer, CUBS | ` ' On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Colette, > > Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be > available in the next release though. > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > > > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > > answered before! > > > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > > needing to go into the pine interface? > > > > *************************************** > > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > > ************************************** > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:11:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03422; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:11:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05073; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05067; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:27 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11388; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:49:22 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:49:22 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: VampLestat Cc: Pine Info List Subject: Re: debug files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ryan, You can turn off debugging completely by removing the DEBUG definition in the makefiles. Note that this will completely eliminate debugging... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, VampLestat wrote: > > I know there is a flag you can give to cause pine not to generate the > debug files, but is there a compilation time option you can set to > prevent this? > > We've got tons of users wasting disk space generating debug files that > will never get used. > > _O_ Ryan L. Watkins e-mail: vamp@csulb.edu > | Academic Computing Services url : http://www.acs.csulb.edu/~vamp/ > | CSU Long Beach - Network Support pgpkey: finger vamp@gothic.acs.csulb.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:20:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03924; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:20:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05326; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:58:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05318; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:58:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11490; Fri, 8 Apr 94 08:57:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Norman R. McBride" Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Norman, "execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Norman R. McBride wrote: > Two small comments... > > It would be nice to be able to execute pine in shell scripts (so > I can automatically mail people files using my pine addressbook aliases, > and including my .sig) with the command 'pine spod < file'. Can you add > this to the infamous to-do list ? Puh-lease ? > The second thing, could the aforementioned to-do list be posted to > the maillist at intervals ? This may stop the barrage of requests for the > same feature... > > N. > > .-----------------------[ N.R.McBride@city.ac.uk ]-----------------------. > |'Bloody instructions which, being learned, return to plague the inventor' | > | -Shakespeare, on debugging | > | | > | Norman R. McBride - Computer officer, CUBS | > ` ' > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Colette, > > > > Unfortunately the answer is no to both of these questions. (1) will be > > available in the next release though. > > > > Thanks for the request! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Colette Monaghan wrote: > > > > > I'm new to this list so apologise if these questions have been asked and > > > answered before! > > > > > > 1 Is it possible to delete multiple messages other than by expressly > > > typing D at each one in the index or when actually reading a message? > > > 2 Is it possible to send a file to someone without actually > > > needing to go into the pine interface? > > > > > > *************************************** > > > Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of > > > Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB, United Kingdom > > > E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk > > > ************************************** > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 09:55:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05528; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:55:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06329; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06323; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12612; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:35:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "G. H. Chinoy" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: metamail extenstions for pine & NeXTstep In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The next release of Pine will contain a significant portion of metamail and will run on NeXTstep. Inquire on the info-mime@CS.UTK.EDU mailing list (aka newsgroup comp.mail.mime) for more information on metamail itself. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, G. H. Chinoy wrote: > Hi, everyone! > > I just stumbled across mm2.7 on wuarchive and was wondering if > anyone out there could share any hints to compile/configure metamail/MIME > to work with pine and our system: NeXTstep 3.0 > > Thanks! > > Hussain Chinoy > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 10:03:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05977; Fri, 8 Apr 94 10:03:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02336; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:38:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wave.aoml.erl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02330; Fri, 8 Apr 94 09:38:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (chen@localhost) by aoml.erl.gov (8.6.5/8.6.4) id MAA07266; Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:37:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:37:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Ying-Yuang Chen Reply-To: Ying-Yuang Chen Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII --YY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 11:40:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09523; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:40:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08731; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:26:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from norway.biop.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08725; Fri, 8 Apr 94 11:26:35 -0700 Received: by norway.biop.umich.edu (931110.SGI.ANONFTP/911001.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA05554; Fri, 8 Apr 94 14:26:33 -0400 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:26:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jeff Traigle Subject: Enhancement To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just tried using a remote directory for the postponed mail folder and Pine seemed to insist that this be a local directory. It'd be nice to have this available through IMAP just like the other mail folders. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Jeff Traigle | | Systems Administrator | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | University of Michigan University of Michigan | | College of Pharmacy Biophysics Research Division | | Pharmacy Building, Room 1033 Chemistry Building, Room 3080 | | Ann Arbor MI 48109 Ann Arbor MI 48109 | | (313) 747-2340 (313) 763-5449 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | traigle@umich.edu Pager: (313) 617-8793 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 13:34:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13777; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:34:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10962; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:09:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10956; Fri, 8 Apr 94 13:09:03 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA27683; Fri, 8 Apr 94 16:08:37 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:05:41 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: next release To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Request: I finally got pine running on my Esix SVR4 machine. Is it possibal that the next release be portable to SVR4 easier then the past releases have been????? That would be such a big help. It just isn't fair to us pore soals that are stuck on SVR4. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 19:33:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23788; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:33:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14923; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ursa.calvin.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14917; Fri, 8 Apr 94 19:19:14 -0700 Received: by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03794; Fri, 8 Apr 94 22:19:10 EDT Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How about it? This would be similar to the -z flag in elm. Right now I have a shell script which does the same but it would be much cooler to just have to type.. pine -x or something similar. Anybody else support this idea? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu _ (/ .... > / \_____/''\ /|----\ / /____| / \ \____/ \ . . o O ,---/. | O \.. \ ,----. | / | \___----'O====. | | | | | `----' `----' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 20:21:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24603; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:21:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18463; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18457; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:51 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28516; Fri, 8 Apr 94 20:08:46 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:08:45 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: next release In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, We are always interested in making Pine more portable. Could you send us diffs of the changes you made to get it working on your system? Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > > Request: > I finally got pine running on my Esix SVR4 machine. Is it > possibal that the next release be portable to SVR4 easier then the past > releases have been????? That would be such a big help. It just isn't > fair to us pore soals that are stuck on SVR4. > > Rick Gaine > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 8 22:03:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25746; Fri, 8 Apr 94 22:03:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19710; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:49:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19704; Fri, 8 Apr 94 21:49:50 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id AAA16919; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:49:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id AAA08884; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:51:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 00:51:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Reply-To: Ian Lumb Subject: PC-Pine via PPP To: PINE INFO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Greetings:- Although my efforts to get PC-Pine running via SLIP have been unsuccessful to date, I have been using PC-Pine via PPP for a few days now. I think it's pretty incredible that my very modest 286 equipped with a high-speed modem, allows me to run the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) packet driver, and thus become and Internet node and run PC-Pine! My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough memory errors. I would like to know how much memory PC-Pine requires, and if there are any other suggestions for reducing memory demands when PC-Pine is operating ... Thx, Ian. -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 00:38:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27636; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:38:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18730; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:14:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18719; Sat, 9 Apr 94 00:13:48 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0pouz3-000161C; Fri, 8 Apr 94 00:23 EST Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:23:02 +0000 From: Subject: Re: PINE enhancement(s) To: David L Miller Cc: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > Enhancement: > > When in the "Index" mode ... would it be possible to jump to specific > > message numbers by simply typing the number rather than using the > > arrow-keys? This is a slow method when our users are using the dial in > > lines at 2400 baud (like myself.) I didn't notice an obvious way to do > > this in the .pinerc file. > > You can jump by typing the number if you have enable-jump-shortcut on the > feature-list in your .pinerc file. And even if you don't have enable-jump-shortcut in the features list, you can just type 'j' followed by the number, rather than use the arrow keys. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 13:40:14 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07199; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:40:14 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01206; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:23:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01200; Sat, 9 Apr 94 13:23:09 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA22659; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:23:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:23:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Enhancement request...or how-to? To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Two things I'd like to be able to do: 1. Jump directly into the (and out of) the header area to make adjustments while composing text. What I do now is page to the top and then use ^P. I'd be happy to learn an easier way. 2. Jump directly to the top (or bottom) of the text without repetitive use of ^Y or ^V. That would help with wish #1, of course, but it would be useful for many other purposes. Workarounds: at the end, ^W for some arbitrary character likely to be in the first line (an "a"). Search wraps and deposits you there. Or ^O to postpone and then C to resume, which also starts you over at the top. Any way to get to the bottom? Thank you considering these wishes. Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 15:32:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08173; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:32:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00469; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:16:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from solix.fiu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00463; Sat, 9 Apr 94 15:16:40 -0700 Received: from scs.fiu.edu by fiu.edu (4.1/SMI/FIU-4.0.2) id AA11130; Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:17:09 EDT Received: by scs.fiu.edu (4.1) id AA27949; Sat, 9 Apr 94 18:16:34 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 18:14:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Tsang Subject: Pine port to Solaris? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Cory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory Tsang Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F Miami, FL 33199 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 17:08:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08901; Sat, 9 Apr 94 17:08:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01539; Sat, 9 Apr 94 16:49:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01533; Sat, 9 Apr 94 16:49:49 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA06603; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:49:41 EDT Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:48:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: Cory Tsang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? I have never heard of this and I was just wondering. Rick Gaine On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > Cory > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Cory Tsang > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > Miami, FL 33199 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 19:57:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10133; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:57:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05489; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:42:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05483; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:42:05 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06459; Sat, 9 Apr 94 19:41:53 -0700 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Richard C. Gaine" Cc: Cory Tsang , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Favorite-Drink: Orange Juice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? Nope; not true. (A Pine supporter at Nokia is working on a Motif version, but the "standard" Pine is a character-based application that does not use Motif. Some of us run it from within xterm windows under the Motif Window Manager, but Pine itself knows nothing about GUIs.) -teg > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Cory > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Cory Tsang > > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > > Miami, FL 33199 > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 20:41:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10496; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:41:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05976; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:25:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from afep.yorku.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05970; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:25:56 -0700 Received: from vortex.yorku.ca (vortex.yorku.ca [130.63.232.15]) by afep.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id XAA15302 for ; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:25:55 -0400 Received: from localhost (ian@localhost) by vortex.yorku.ca (8.6.4/8.6.4) id XAA09968; Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:28:02 -0400 Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:28:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Ian Lumb Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: PINE INFO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure why Pine would require Motif as it is (at present at least) a text-based mail user agent. I have built Pine successfully under Solaris 2.3 using the `Solaris port', i.e. build sol Ian. On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Richard C. Gaine wrote: > What is this about needing motif to compile pine? Is this true? > I have never heard of this and I was just wondering. > > Rick Gaine > > On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). > > > > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > Cory > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Cory Tsang > > Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 > > School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 > > Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F > > Miami, FL 33199 > > > > > > > > > -- Ian Lumb Internet: Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 21:52:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11177; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:52:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04876; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:39:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04870; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:39:48 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA12179; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:39:14 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03671; Sun, 10 Apr 94 12:13:56 +0800 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 12:13:55 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine port to Solaris? To: Cory Tsang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Cory Tsang wrote: > I'm looking for a pine port for Solaris 2.x (2.3 is preferred). I don't > have access to the motif libraries, so I can't compile it for myself. (If > I remember correctly, you need motif to compile pine). First, you remember *incorrectly*. You don't need motif or anything else X to complie pine. Second, I've not tried it since I don't have Solaris, it has been suggested that "Add -Dconst= to the CFLAGS for makefile.sol in the pine subdirectory." Regards, Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 22:01:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11286; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:01:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05029; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:51:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [131.217.10.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05023; Sat, 9 Apr 94 21:51:36 -0700 Received: (from jw_lamp@localhost) by bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (8.6.8/8.6.6) id OAA15956; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:52:00 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:47:51 +1000 (EST) From: John Lamp Subject: Re: PC-Pine via PPP To: Ian Lumb Cc: PINE INFO In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ian, I run a waffle site, and memory errors can be a problem with that too. There is a utility called shroom (SHROOM2D.ZIP I think) which writes out the conventional memory to disk before spawning a new process, and reloads it on the way back in. This may assist you, if PC-PINE does the same sort of spawning - many such mailers do. Using shroom, you can get waffle to run on an XT! Cheers John _--_|\ John Lamp, originating in Hobart, Tasmania / \ Phone: 002 20 2957 - Fax: 002 34 5685 \_.--._/ email: jw_lamp@postoffice.utas.edu.au v <----------<<< jw_lamp@calvados.apana.org.au On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Ian Lumb wrote: > My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! > I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by > the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there > are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first > message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough > memory errors. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 22:31:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11659; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:31:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07314; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07307; Sat, 9 Apr 94 22:18:03 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00738; Sun, 10 Apr 94 00:18:02 CDT Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:18:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: Notification when mail shows up in other folders Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to the next one Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for 100 mesg/day mailing lists) Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Apr 9 23:13:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12195; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:13:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05955; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shark.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05949; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:01:23 -0700 Received: by shark.mel.dit.csiro.au id AA29615 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/DIT-1.3 for Pine Mailing List ); Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:01:32 +1000 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:01:32 +1000 (EST) From: Simon McClenahan Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user > hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for > 100 mesg/day mailing lists) Or ... subscribe to mailing lists in a DIGEST FORMAT ... unlike this one! > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) She wouldn't have time to do anything with foodstuffs if she subscribed to a mailing list that had lots and lots of messages per day and had no DIGEST FORMAT subscription. :) cheers, Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 Klein bottle for rent - apply within. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 00:04:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12770; Sun, 10 Apr 94 00:04:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08520; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:52:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08514; Sat, 9 Apr 94 23:52:43 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ppaIg-000161C; Sat, 9 Apr 94 20:30 EST Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:30:04 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > reverse video." > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? I've noticed similar with modems - the interface to the modem is probably running at a fixed high baud rate, even if the data rate is low. Another way to set the '->' mode, or an option to set it as default may be a good thing. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 01:40:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14367; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:40:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09635; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09629; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:45 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06873; Sun, 10 Apr 94 01:25:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 01:25:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. There will be an option to force low speed behavior in the next version. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sat, 9 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Thomas E. Rutledge, III wrote: > > > In the Main Menu Help, section 6 (of the Table of contents) mentions that > > > > "Pine can usually recognize when it is being used over a low speed > > dialup line via a modem. In this case it will show the current > > message in the index with a '->' instead of showing it all in > > reverse video." > > > > This does not seem to work here, and our best guess at this time is that > > we dial into (Xyplex) terminal servers, and the terminal server then > > connects to the unix machine via ethernet (which is NOT low speed). > > > > Does anyone have anything to add to this, or is our guess the correct one? > > I've noticed similar with modems - the interface to the modem is probably > running at a fixed high baud rate, even if the data rate is low. > > Another way to set the '->' mode, or an option to set it as default may > be a good thing. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 07:42:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18663; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:42:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14114; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:27:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14108; Sun, 10 Apr 94 07:27:42 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA20771; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 07:27:31 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 07:27:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Problem with commas in addresses To: PINE mailing list Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I recently used "Take Address" to add a name like "Thomas J. Watson, Jr." to my pine address book (without difficulty). When I grabbed this address into the To: field while composing, pine split the field into two "addresses" at the comma. The mail showed up in my inbox as "undeliverable" To: Thomas@isumataq.eskimo.com ('cause I didn't pay attention to the brief that happened as I exited the To: field and there's no local user here with the name "Thomas" -- if there were, he would of course have gotten a strange piece of mail and I might never have known something was amiss). After a while I sorted this out, and have now taken the comma out of the entry in the address book. So there's no immediate need for help on this particular problem. But the situation seems clumsy. If commas are going to produce that sort of result, then there should be a more emphatic way of preventing them from being inadvertantly included within the ""s. Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 09:49:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20004; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:49:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:32:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.swip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13741; Sun, 10 Apr 94 09:32:43 -0700 Received: by mail.swip.net (8.6.8/2.01) id SAA11858; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:32:40 +0200 Received: by datan.sk.uppsala.se (4.1/Uppsala-930825-1) id AA26155; Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:31:26 +0200 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 94 18:31:26 +0200 Message-Id: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> From: Klaus Zeuge To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: deleting multiple messages >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) >From: David L Miller >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Is this a good algorithm? People on the list who have seen one thing requested in the last X months, will they request it again? I suspect the algorithm will make newcomer's wishes carry more weight than they should. I might be wrong. (Just for the sake of it, I'll mention RFC 1522 again :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 15:27:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23613; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:27:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18047; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:13:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18041; Sun, 10 Apr 94 15:12:57 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB0J5YR4K08ZFYNX@asu.edu>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:14:11 MST Received: from ECSTEST.ASU.EDU ([129.219.3.7]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113393>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:12:47 -0700 Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:11:42 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: How to subscribe to newsgroups with Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal Hello! How can one tell which newsgroups are available on a news host using Pine? I don't think it has newsgroup subscription support yet. Is the "Spring" version of Pine going to have subscription support? What's the best workaround now? Copy the entire list of newsgroups to each person's account? Also, will the next version allow one to post an article to a newsgroup? Will that be through NNTP, through SMTP (e.g., ZMailer), or something else? Many thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Apr 10 17:42:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24917; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:42:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19664; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:27:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19658; Sun, 10 Apr 94 17:27:51 -0700 Received: from enuxsa.eas.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB0NV4XQGG8ZG3IW@asu.edu>; Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:29:01 MST Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:30:20 -0700 (MST) From: Kevin Pinto Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests In-Reply-To: To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: > [...] > > Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. > I second this. Regards, Kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Pinto, Chem Engg, ASU, Tempe, AZ My mailer understands MIME "Beware of reading health books; you may die of a misprint" - Mark Twain "An armed society is a polite society" - Beyond This Horizon, Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 03:09:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01676; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:09:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26708; Mon, 11 Apr 94 02:28:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from gray.csi.cam.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26702; Mon, 11 Apr 94 02:27:57 -0700 Received: from quinag.csi.cam.ac.uk by ppsw1.cam.ac.uk with SMTP-CAM (PP-6.0) as ppsw.cam.ac.uk id <13528-0@ppsw1.cam.ac.uk>; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:27:50 +0100 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 10:27:41 BST From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: bl10@imap.cus.cam.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Klaus Zeuge wrote: > > >Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT) > >From: David L Miller > > >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the > >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are > >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... > Just to be on the safe side, can I second the wish? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 04:20:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03451; Mon, 11 Apr 94 04:20:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29108; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:50:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from dshp04.trs.ntc.nokia.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29102; Mon, 11 Apr 94 03:50:09 -0700 Received: from dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com by dshp04.trs.ntc.nokia.com with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA19458; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:06:33 +0300 Received: by dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA12297; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:06:32 +0300 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:06:32 +0300 (EETDST) From: Ian Leiman Subject: SPRUCE status report (Re: Pine Motif) To: Michael Stokes Cc: Pine Info In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Michael Stokes wrote: > > Just checking to see how the work is progressing. I poked around on cac > and didn't see anything that looked like it had MOTIF in it. Could you give > me a status report? I just returned from a long vacation and looks like there's a pile of work waiting to be done... The 'Pine Motif' program will be named SPRUCE to avoid confusion and it will actually look quite different from PINE anyway. I will post status reports of the SPRUCE project here and keep online documentation in the World Wide Web. Look for this URL: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html The document is still under construction. It is formatted for Mosaic and will include graphics eventually. If you don't have a clue what is WWW and an URL, better find out soon... STATUS REPORT: Before I left for vacation I was working on the message sending part and should get message send to work within few hours of work as soon as I can allocate those hours. This part has required a lot of work, as I will have to do lot of changes. Some additional code to allow addressbook updating and manipulating folders and folder collections will bring SPRUCE up to PINE functionality. Then I need to add a simple on-line help and documentation. Then I think it makes sense to release it. SPRUCE project runs at a low priority so it is difficult to estimate a date. Before May, I hope?? Like all software projects, this one runs behind its schedule too... Some people have already volunteered to test and possibly port SPRUCE onto other platforms than my own HP730. More volunteers are welcome. A binary executable for HP73x running HP/UX 9.01 is available for evaluation. -- Ian Leiman, M.Sc. phone +358 0 5104 4453, fax +358 0 5104 4764 ian.leiman@ntc.nokia.com homepage: http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/~leiman/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 12:01:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14887; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07616; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:39:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07608; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:39:21 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA03827; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:40:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:40:20 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Security on PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is the statis of security on PC-pine. In particular, is anything planned for development that will prevent a user from walking up to a PC, running PC-pine and sending mail as the user logged into the PC? Or, what are other sites doing to help prevent or curb this possibility? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15143; Mon, 11 Apr 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07646; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:40:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07640; Mon, 11 Apr 94 11:40:40 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA03850; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:41:49 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:41:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: PC-Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Why, when I log into PC-pine and mis-type my password, do I get the message "Preserve password on DISK for next login?". What does this message mean? Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 14:07:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19041; Mon, 11 Apr 94 14:07:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09214; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from solix.fiu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09208; Mon, 11 Apr 94 13:48:09 -0700 Received: from scs.fiu.edu by fiu.edu (4.1/SMI/FIU-4.0.2) id AA23291; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:48:37 EDT Received: by scs.fiu.edu (4.1) id AA20020; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:48:02 EDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Cory Tsang Subject: Thanks To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks for all the responses. Sorry for wasting your time. I could have sworn, though, that when I was reading the docs for pine a few months back, I saw mention that it required Motif and that is why I laid off the compile to do other things. Obviously I remember incorrectly. Thanks again, Cory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cory Tsang Programmer/Analyst Office: (305) 348-2739 School of Computer Science, MS ECS354 Fax : (305) 348-3549 Florida International University 9:30 am - 1:30 pm M-F Miami, FL 33199 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 15:31:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21783; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11911; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11905; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:23 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24546; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:06:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:06:19 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Ian Lumb Cc: PINE INFO Subject: Re: PC-Pine via PPP In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ian, The minimum free memory for PC-Pine is about 500k. Below that and you are pretty much out of luck. More will be used if available (within the infamous 640k boundaries). There are also memory fragmentation problems that will gradually eat away at the useable memory, so you may need to restart Pine periodically. It should be able to handle more than one reply before running out though ;) Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Ian Lumb wrote: > Greetings:- > > Although my efforts to get PC-Pine running via SLIP have been unsuccessful > to date, I have been using PC-Pine via PPP for a few days now. I think > it's pretty incredible that my very modest 286 equipped with a high-speed > modem, allows me to run the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) packet driver, > and thus become and Internet node and run PC-Pine! > > My only problem seems to be that I keep running out of memory on my 286! > I assume that PC-Pine runs in conventional memory, and is thus limited by > the famous 640K MS-DOS barrier. I've killed all unecessary TSRs, but there > are still problems. In prticular, I've found that I can reply to a first > message, but that replying to a second one usually results in not enough > memory errors. > > I would like to know how much memory PC-Pine requires, and if there are > any other suggestions for reducing memory demands when PC-Pine is > operating ... > > Thx, > > Ian. > > -- > Ian Lumb Internet: > Earth & Atmospheric Science, York University > North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA > Voice: (416) 736-5245; Fax: (416) 736-5817 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 15:32:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21830; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:32:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12111; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12105; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:52 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24794; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:15:47 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:15:47 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Putnam Barber Cc: PINE mailing list Subject: Re: Enhancement request...or how-to? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Putnam, In Pine 3.90, ^Y and ^V will take you into and out of the header, ^W^V will "search for end" and ^W^Y will "search for top". Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Putnam Barber wrote: > > Two things I'd like to be able to do: > > 1. Jump directly into the (and out of) the header area to make > adjustments while composing text. What I do now is page to the top and > then use ^P. I'd be happy to learn an easier way. > > 2. Jump directly to the top (or bottom) of the text without repetitive > use of ^Y or ^V. That would help with wish #1, of course, but it would > be useful for many other purposes. Workarounds: at the end, ^W for some > arbitrary character likely to be in the first line (an "a"). Search > wraps and deposits you there. Or ^O to postpone and then C to resume, > which also starts you over at the top. Any way to get to the bottom? > > Thank you considering these wishes. > > Putnam Barber > Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 16:13:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23121; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:13:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11702; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11696; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:41 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25486; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:47:38 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Could you implement the following enhancements for the multiple mail folders: > > Notification when mail shows up in other folders > We are trying to come up with a way to do this for the incoming-folders collection without being an inordinate resource hog. There is a glimmer of hope on the horizon, but it is not quite here yet. > Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to > the next one > I must be missing something here. Could you restate this point? > Have TAB mark the messages it steps through as deleted, and have the user > hit u for the messages they want to keep. (This would help immensely for > 100 mesg/day mailing lists) > I'll add this to the requested enhancement list. > Have TAB skip inboxes with no messages in them. > This ties in with your first request. Both of these will be easy when the driver-level issues get ironed out. > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) Hmmm... :) > _________ > |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four > | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University > | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois > | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits > _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes > |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible > Thanks for the suggestions! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 16:18:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23343; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:18:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11920; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11914; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:30 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25884; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:59:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:59:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Shahjehan Khatri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to subscribe to newsgroups with Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Shahjehan, The "spring" release of Pine will include subscription and posting via NNTP. Currently the best work-around is to use trn, tin, nn, etc for subscription/posting. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > Hello! How can one tell which newsgroups are available on a news host using > Pine? I don't think it has newsgroup subscription support yet. Is the > "Spring" version of Pine going to have subscription support? What's the > best workaround now? Copy the entire list of newsgroups to each person's > account? > > Also, will the next version allow one to post an article to a newsgroup? > Will that be through NNTP, through SMTP (e.g., ZMailer), or something else? > > Many thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 17:19:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25860; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:19:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14204; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14198; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27925; Mon, 11 Apr 94 17:03:21 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Martin Zhang Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: signoff In-Reply-To: <9404071446.AA14626@marimba.cellbio.duke.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with "unsubscribe pine-info" in the body of the message. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Martin Zhang wrote: > > Sorry, I deleted the information about how to unsubscribe this > group. I will appreciate it if some one can forward me the > information. > > Thanks. > > -Martin > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 20:17:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28827; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:17:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16485; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:01:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16479; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:01:11 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08020; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:01:09 CDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:01:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Re: Multiple Folders enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > We are trying to come up with a way to do this for the incoming-folders > collection without being an inordinate resource hog. There is a glimmer > of hope on the horizon, but it is not quite here yet. Perhaps you could let the user specify which folders to monitor? Since you've jumped to 3 minutes, this shouldn't suck too much time... > > Have TAB step through each new message instead of jumping immediately to > > the next one > I must be missing something here. Could you restate this point? Have TAB function like the space bar, paging through the message, and jumping to the next unread one when it hits the end of the one its on. > > Have Julia Roberts take some whipped cream and.. Whoops, wrong list.. =) > Hmmm... :) Is that a Hmmm... maybe I'll let you have her when I'm done.. ?=) _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 20:45:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29240; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:45:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16893; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:31:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from unet.Net.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16887; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:31:50 -0700 Received: from jello.net.com by unet.net.com (4.1/UNET-1.1) id AA02808; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:38 PDT Received: from guinness.net.com by jello.net.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA17649; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:05 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:32:05 PDT From: mayeda@jello.net.com (Steve Mayeda) Message-Id: <9404120332.AA17649@jello.net.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 21:14:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29667; Mon, 11 Apr 94 21:14:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17879; Mon, 11 Apr 94 21:00:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17854; Mon, 11 Apr 94 20:59:55 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0ppyc1-00012RC; Sun, 10 Apr 94 22:27 EST Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 22:27:40 +0000 From: Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines To: Steve Hubert Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Steve Hubert wrote: > You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix > system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or > whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. Well, no. If one is dialing in on a modem which is locked to a high rate on the host computer interface end, the host *cannot* tell what speed the modems are running at, and "stty 1200" will block all communication. So the coming option will be welcome. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 22:32:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00850; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:32:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18358; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cs1.bradley.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18352; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:17:02 -0700 Received: by cs1.bradley.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11031; Tue, 12 Apr 94 00:17:01 CDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:17:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Matt Simmons Subject: Yet another request To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please oh please kill the delays between the messages! It is particularly annoying when you switch folders, and have to wait 20 seconds for the status messages to catch up so you can read the stuff in the box. Also, switching folders via TAB is inconsistent... When switching from any folder other than INBOX to another folder (this time it could be INBOX), you are asked if you want to delete messages tagged for deletion. However, when you switch from INBOX to another folder, you are not asked, and deleted messages are not deleted.. could this be fixed? Idea for the resource hogging inbox checking: Put a flag in the system wide pine configuration so the sysadmins can determine whether they want the users to suck up time polling multiple inboxes... Though isn't checking for new mail trivial, as all you have to do is keep track of the times (or sizes) on each one, and then checking the full box only when the size changes? _________ |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 22:51:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01198; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:51:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18675; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:38:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18669; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:38:27 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16342; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:37:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: "Thomas E. Rutledge, III" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine over Dialup Lines In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Right, but I think that a majority of dialin users nowdays come in through a terminal server which is then connected to the host through something like telnet or rlogin. In that case, there is no "speed" of the telnet connection, so you can set it to whatever you want. If your modem is hardwired to the host computer, you're stuck for now. (And, of course, the option should be more convenient than typing stty commands, too.) Steve On Sun, 10 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > You can probably fix this with the command "stty 1200" to tell the unix > > system you are at a low speed. Since it communicates using TCP/IP (or > > whatever) it doesn't know the speed automatically. > > Well, no. If one is dialing in on a modem which is locked to a high rate > on the host computer interface end, the host *cannot* tell what speed the > modems are running at, and "stty 1200" will block all communication. > > So the coming option will be welcome. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 11 23:15:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01499; Mon, 11 Apr 94 23:15:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18939; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:54:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from coyote.rain.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18933; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:54:43 -0700 Received: by rain.org (4.1/25-eef) id AA23548; Mon, 11 Apr 94 22:52:35 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 22:52:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe McDonald Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII subscribe me \|/ (o o) _____________oOO__(_)__OOo_______________ | Joe McDonald (joe@rain.org) | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 08:42:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11235; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:42:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27388; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27382; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04661; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:33 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:18:32 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Matt Simmons Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Yet another request In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII See below... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Matt Simmons wrote: > Please oh please kill the delays between the messages! It is > particularly annoying when you switch folders, and have to wait 20 > seconds for the status messages to catch up so you can read the stuff in > the box. > We *do* need to work on the message generation code. Thanks for prodding us to work on it ;) > Also, switching folders via TAB is inconsistent... When switching from any > folder other than INBOX to another folder (this time it could be INBOX), > you are asked if you want to delete messages tagged for deletion. > However, when you switch from INBOX to another folder, you are not asked, > and deleted messages are not deleted.. could this be fixed? > This is because the INBOX is not closed when you leave it. All other folders are closed when you leave them for another folder. Admittedly that technique does lead to some consistency problems... > Idea for the resource hogging inbox checking: Put a flag in the system > wide pine configuration so the sysadmins can determine whether they want > the users to suck up time polling multiple inboxes... Though isn't > checking for new mail trivial, as all you have to do is keep track of the > times (or sizes) on each one, and then checking the full box only when > the size changes? > Currently, Pine does not have a mechanism to make that simple of a check. The current new-mail-check code actually parses the new messages which is much more time consuming. We have made a request for a fast-check c-client routine, but I don't think it is ready yet.... > _________ > |_ __ \ U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y Womens 94 NCAA Final Four > | |__| | Currently: zarthac@cs1.bradley.edu Bradley University > | ____/ zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu Peoria, Illinois > | | Spring 94 - Soph by years, Junior by credits > _| |_ Fall 94 - Junior by years, Soph by credits - Only Purdue makes > |______| U R D U E U N I V E R S I T Y it possible > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 08:44:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11429; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:44:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26989; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26977; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:18:00 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA15397; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:17:52 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21615; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:18:20 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:18:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Pine and News To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally overlooking... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:07:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12822; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:07:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27526; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:39:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27512; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:39:11 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA16289; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:39:06 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21646; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:39:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:39:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: "Andrew B. Sweger" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman , David L Miller In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is a great idea. Then, also, if any of those hackers do come up with some good code that they would be willing to share, they could submit that to the pine crew as part of the next release. That way, pine people don't have to do it all... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Andrew, > [items deleted] > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > --DLM > [items deleted] > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > -- > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > ============================================================================== > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:11:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13017; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:11:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27789; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27783; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:25 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05295; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:15 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other newsreader... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > overlooking... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:11:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13088; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28099; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28093; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:52 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05335; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:51:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 08:51:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > This is a great idea. Then, also, if any of those hackers do come up > with some good code that they would be willing to share, they could > submit that to the pine crew as part of the next release. That way, pine > people don't have to do it all... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Andrew B. Sweger wrote: > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > > > > Andrew, > > [items deleted] > > > There are some legal and political roadblocks to be passed before we would be > > > comfortable adding PGP support. > > > > > > --DLM > > [items deleted] > > > > Perhaps a future version of pine could have appropriate locations > > for hooks to various privacy packages to be added by the installer (but > > not provided in the distribution). Maybe user installable menu commands > > (e.g., Sign Message (specify MIME part number), Encrypt MIME part) would > > be possible for the hacker (site implementor?). This doesn't solve all the > > legal or political roadblocks, but does put some distance from the problem > > and gives some folks a solution. The hooks don't have to be strictly for > > PGP, any package would apply. (IMHO, ignorant as it is) -Andy > > > > -- > > / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu > > // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu > > \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) > > // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) > > / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. > > ============================================================================== > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:12:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13128; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:12:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27801; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27795; Tue, 12 Apr 94 08:49:40 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA16587; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:49:28 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21664; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:49:56 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:49:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: This pine-info mailing list To: Simon McClenahan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was just talking to a colleague, and he said that his softball list has two modes. 1) Full mailings, 2) Collective mailings every 6 hours. The collective mailings are done such thatk, every 6 hours a file has been kept of all mailers that came since that last collective posting, and then, after 6 hours, that file is mailed to everyone on the collective mailing list. The list server is smart enough to be able to arrange that, at the beginning of the 6 hour mailer, an index of subject lines is found to be able to help you browse the file, instead of getting caught with this huge file that you feel you have to read every line of. It's an idea... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Simon McClenahan wrote: > Hi, > As much as I like to watch and _sometimes_ participate in > discussions on pine, I think there is a NEED for this list to be able to > be distributed in digest format.... please? > > I'll assume that another 50% of pine-info subscribers would quote > the above text and write "me too!" down the bottom :) > > > cheers, > > Simon.McClenahan@mel.dit.csiro.au \CSIRO Supercomputing Support Group > CSIRO Division of Information Technology\ tel: +61 3 282 2623 > 723 Swanston St, Carlton 3053 AUSTRALIA \ fax: +61 3 282 2600 > I'm pink, therefore I'm spam. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:23:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13614; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:23:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28144; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28138; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:02:28 -0700 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04650; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:02:21 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:54:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Schlitt Subject: Re: Yet another request To: David L Miller Cc: Matt Simmons , Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would not want you to close the inbox (and thus delete messages marked for deletion) when you move to another folder from the inbox. I'm not sure what you do with the inconsistent appearance to the user, but the current behaviour is correct. I often want to refer to a saved message in a folder while I am going through my inbox and I may also want to go back and refer to a messsage that I have marked for deletion. I want to mark them for deletion when I read them but that doesn't mean that I am completely through with them. A later message in a thread may prompt me to go back and look again. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:51:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14445; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:51:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29098; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:32:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29090; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:32:40 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA17942; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:32:35 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21797; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:32:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:32:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: News on pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry about my earlier message, but, after doing some more searching, I found I had not set my news-collections= option in my .pinerc. So now I am running with both news and mail. That's great. Only one thing that could be a suggestion for pine 3.9. If the listing of newsgroups could be made such that I could see a count of how many unread entries there were, I would feel a lot less anxious. As it is, I subscribe to so many newsgroups that, if I cannot see that info in front of me, I will find myself reading every single group, not knowing whether I needed to. I really don't have the time, with my job, to be bouncing around newsgroups. Please consider this suggestion. As a matter of fact, what would be cool is a menu option that allows flipping back and forth between a simple listing of newsgroups and a numbered listing. That option could be controlled by a .pinerc option which would turn it on or off, and by an option that, if this were switched on, would allow you to select which mode was to be the default every time you first get in... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 09:56:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:56:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29267; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:39:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29259; Tue, 12 Apr 94 09:38:59 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA18104; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:38:54 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA21818; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:39:23 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:39:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: News in pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How does one subscribe and unsubscribe in pine? I have looked at the options available and have hit "?" to get the help screen. The options and help seem very mail oriented and say nothing about news. Even when you want to go to a group the option is called something like "go to folder." Please let me know if there is an option in my .pinerc that I am not activating or something... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 10:18:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15532; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:18:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29873; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hertz.asso.etsmtl.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29857; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:04:46 -0700 Received: by asso.etsmtl.ca (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15114; Tue, 12 Apr 94 11:43:00 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 11:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Pierre Roy Subject: Re: Pine and News To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > Bruce, > > Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by > setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your > news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other > newsreader... Sorry to barge in but does Pine use the NNTP type of connection to read the news??? Thanks. Pierre > > Thanks for the request! > > --DLM > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > > overlooking... > > > > **************************************************************************** > > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > > **************************************************************************** > > > Pierre Roy Porretta Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 10:44:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16476; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:44:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00283; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:13:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cd1.lrz-muenchen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00271; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:13:02 -0700 Received: from sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de by cd1.lrz-muenchen.de; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:46 +0200 Received: from sun3.lrz-muenchen.de by sunserver.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13532; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:44 +0200 Received: by sun3.lrz-muenchen.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15904; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:12:43 +0200 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:12:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Michael Wolf Subject: Re: Yet another request To: Dan Schlitt Cc: David L Miller , Matt Simmons , Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII That's my opinion as well. Michael On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Dan Schlitt wrote: > I would not want you to close the inbox (and thus delete messages marked > for deletion) when you move to another folder from the inbox. I'm not sure > what you do with the inconsistent appearance to the user, but the current > behaviour is correct.I often want to refer to a saved message in a > folder while I am going through my inbox and I may also want to go back > and refer to a messsage that I have marked for deletion. I want to mark > them for deletion when I read them but that doesn't mean that I am > completely through with them. A later message in a thread may prompt me to > go back and look again. > > /dan > > -- > > Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems > dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York > (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:05:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22097; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:05:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03660; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:44:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03654; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:44:29 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA24000; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:44:25 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA23159; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:44:53 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:44:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Viewing attachments, the second view To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sorry if I seem a pain, but I have one more suggestion for 3.90. I really like pine, now that I am spending so much time on it, but there are a few obvious things that I thought I'd put in here as I came across them. I was just reading a mailer that had 3 attachments. I hit "v" to view, then "1" to see #1, and then "v" again(!!!!) to view it (again???). Once there, I thought, OK, now I can just jump to the next attachment, but no such luck. It would be great if there were an option in the viewer mode that allowed you to "go to next attachment". That way you wouldn't have to exit viewer and then enter "v","2","v" again just to see the next one. Oh, and, while I'm thinking here (a once a day activity), it would be great if, instead of v2s (to save the second attachment) why wouldn't pine want to know "v" that I want to view, and "2" that I want to go to attachment 2. There is no reason to then have to enter the "s" or the "v". Pine should just pop me into looking at attachment 2, and then while in viewer mode, I should have the option to save. Seems it allows a slightly, though obviously, shorter route to getting into the viewer, and gives the option of saving at any time, and not just when you get into the viewer. (Of course, this idea is being typed while I am in typing mode, so I'm not in Viewer mode, should this already prove to be an option inside the viewer.)... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:05:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22105; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:05:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03696; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:46:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03689; Tue, 12 Apr 94 12:46:13 -0700 Received: from bateau (bateau.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA10160; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:41:10 EDT Received: by bateau (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA02593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:46:20 EDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:46:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Subject: Decoding Messages To: Pine List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] -= Chris =- [.Sig closed for repair] (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 13:41:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23116; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:41:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04444; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:15:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04435; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:14:56 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA24943; Tue, 12 Apr 94 16:14:52 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA23468; Tue, 12 Apr 94 16:15:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:15:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: Re: deleting multiple messages To: Klaus Zeuge Cc: dlm@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9404101631.AA26155@datan.sk.uppsala.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >"execute pine in shell scripts" is definitely on the long-list. One of the > >ways we determine the priority of items on the list is how often they are > >mentioned. If we posted the list, that feedback might not come in... Then I'll mention this. I use scripts a lot, and the ability to use pine in a script would be great. Hopefully it will not be too long in coming... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 14:04:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23593; Tue, 12 Apr 94 14:04:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05042; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:42:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ducserv.duc.auburn.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05036; Tue, 12 Apr 94 13:42:44 -0700 Received: from noc.noc.auburn.edu (noc.auburn.edu) by mail.auburn.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0 News-1.0) id AA14360; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:35 CDT Received: by noc.noc.auburn.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00838; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:43:06 +0600 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:43:06 +0600 From: owen@noc.auburn.edu Message-Id: <9404122043.AA00838@noc.noc.auburn.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem w/user-domain and smtp-server X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Content-Length: 1401 Hi. First post here for me, so excuse the potentially rookie question. I'm running pine on a Sun running Solaris 2.3. In my .pinerc, I've defined a user-domain that is different from the machine's hostname (actually, what I've defined as the user-domain is a CNAME for the hostname). If I'm reading the docs right, this should be used for the "right-hand part" of the From: and return-path addresses on outgoing mail. It isn't; all mail sent from pine goes out with the regular hostname (and yes, I really do have a legitimate reason for wanting to do this, if possible. It's a long story) in the from and return-path. So, I thought to myself, it's probably sendmail re-writing all that stuff, so I defined smtp-server in order to try to bypass the local sendmail. No luck; everything still has from and return-path pointing at the local hostname, rather than the stuff in the personal config file. I *do* have the user-domain defined to be the hostname in the system-wide file, but it's my understanding that the personal config file takes precedence, right? So, does anyone have any ideas how to get the outgoing mail to have from and return addresses different than the default on a per-user basis. Thanks. Larry Owen email: owen@noc.auburn.edu Campus Network Administrator phone: (205) 844-4110 Auburn University fax: (205) 844-9390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 15:52:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26704; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:52:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07290; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:34:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07284; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:59 -0700 Received: by stein1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25311; Tue, 12 Apr 94 15:33:55 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein1.u.washington.edu Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:33:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: Re: Decoding Messages To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to > save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and > specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] I think the upcoming 'pipe' command feature will give you what you need (pine 3.90, I believe due sometime this spring, stay tuned). > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > > -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 17:56:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00474; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:56:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10133; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:40:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shamash.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10119; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:40:04 -0700 Received: by shamash.cdc.com (4.1/SMI-4.0/CDC1.1) id AA21912; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:39:58 CDT Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA09323; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:14:38 +0800 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:14:37 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Bruce Mahfood , "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( While a PGP specific patch may suffer from legal problems the original request suggested a "generic" hook so that people could plug in their own privacy package. Do you see any problems with that approach? Ed Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:04:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00673; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:04:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10305; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10299; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:28 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15134; Tue, 12 Apr 94 17:50:11 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:50:10 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Pierre Roy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pierre, Pine can use NNTP, IMAP, or local file access to read news. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Pierre Roy wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Bruce, > > > > Pine 3.89 has very limited *read-only* news support. You can eneble this by > > setting the "news-collections" variable in your .pinerc file to point to your > > news server. You will also need a .newsrc file generated by some other > > newsreader... > Sorry to barge in but does Pine use the NNTP type of connection to read > the news??? > > Thanks. > Pierre > > > > > Thanks for the request! > > > > --DLM > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > > > > > For some reason, when I first subscribed to this list, and when I > > > compiled pine on my system and first started to play with it, I got the > > > understanding that pine did News stuff. Don't remember exactly what it > > > was that gave me that impression, but I do remember that people have > > > talked a bit about it. I can't seem to find any feature in pine 3.89 > > > which points toward an ability to read and post news. Please let me know > > > if this is a future enhancement, or if there's something I'm totally > > > overlooking... > > > > > > **************************************************************************** > > > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > > > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > > > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > > > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > > > **************************************************************************** > > > > > > > Pierre Roy Porretta > Ecole de technologie superieure (ETS) Tel:(514) 289-8883 > AEETS Fax:(514) 289-9480 > e-mail:Pierre@asso.ETSmtl.ca > Root@asso.ETSmtl.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:11:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00919; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10443; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10437; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:26 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15236; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:00:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:00:17 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: several messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, We have a message-counting mechanism for the incoming-folder-collection (which can include newsgroups) working in our experimental version, but we are not really happy with it's performance. This will be at most a special command for the Pine 3.90 release. We would like to have automatic counts, but we need to improve the speed considerably first. As you have noticed, Pine 3.89 does not have support for subscription, unsubscription, or posting news. These *will* be in the Pine 3.90 release. Thanks for the requests! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Sorry about my earlier message, but, after doing some more searching, I > found I had not set my news-collections= option in my .pinerc. > > So now I am running with both news and mail. That's great. Only one > thing that could be a suggestion for pine 3.9. If the listing of > newsgroups could be made such that I could see a count of how many unread > entries there were, I would feel a lot less anxious. As it is, I > subscribe to so many newsgroups that, if I cannot see that info in front > of me, I will find myself reading every single group, not knowing whether > I needed to. I really don't have the time, with my job, to be bouncing > around newsgroups. Please consider this suggestion. As a matter of > fact, what would be cool is a menu option that allows flipping back and > forth between a simple listing of newsgroups and a numbered listing. > That option could be controlled by a .pinerc option which would turn it > on or off, and by an option that, if this were switched on, would allow > you to select which mode was to be the default every time you first get in... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > How does one subscribe and unsubscribe in pine? I have looked at the > options available and have hit "?" to get the help screen. The options > and help seem very mail oriented and say nothing about news. Even when > you want to go to a group the option is called something like "go to > folder." Please let me know if there is an option in my .pinerc that I > am not activating or something... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:33:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01292; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:33:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10866; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10860; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:13 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15677; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:23:08 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:23:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Bruce Mahfood Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Viewing attachments, the second view In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Bruce, We do plan to revamp the attachment interface in a future release of Pine. It will probably not make it into 3.90, but it should come shortly thereafter. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Bruce Mahfood wrote: > Sorry if I seem a pain, but I have one more suggestion for 3.90. I > really like pine, now that I am spending so much time on it, but there > are a few obvious things that I thought I'd put in here as I came across > them. > > I was just reading a mailer that had 3 attachments. I hit "v" to view, then > "1" to see #1, and then "v" again(!!!!) to view it (again???). Once > there, I thought, OK, now I can just jump to the next attachment, but no > such luck. > > It would be great if there were an option in the viewer mode that allowed > you to "go to next attachment". That way you wouldn't have to exit > viewer and then enter "v","2","v" again just to see the next one. > > Oh, and, while I'm thinking here (a once a day activity), it would be > great if, instead of v2s (to save the second attachment) why wouldn't > pine want to know "v" that I want to view, and "2" that I want to go to > attachment 2. There is no reason to then have to enter the "s" or the "v". > Pine should just pop me into looking at attachment 2, and then while in > viewer mode, I should have the option to save. Seems it allows a > slightly, though obviously, shorter route to getting into the viewer, and > gives the option of saving at any time, and not just when you get into > the viewer. (Of course, this idea is being typed while I am in typing > mode, so I'm not in Viewer mode, should this already prove to be an > option inside the viewer.)... > > **************************************************************************** > ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! > ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! > ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! > ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! > **************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:38:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01424; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:38:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10924; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10918; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:55 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15731; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:28:51 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:28:51 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller Reply-To: Pine Mission Control {bug reports} To: owen@noc.auburn.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem w/user-domain and smtp-server In-Reply-To: <9404122043.AA00838@noc.noc.auburn.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Larry, The first thing to do is check your .pine-debug1 file to see what is getting picked up from each config file. If that doesn't point out anything, send us a copy and we'll take a look... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994 owen@noc.auburn.edu wrote: > Hi. First post here for me, so excuse the potentially rookie question. > > I'm running pine on a Sun running Solaris 2.3. In my .pinerc, I've > defined a user-domain that is different from the machine's hostname > (actually, what I've defined as the user-domain is a CNAME for the > hostname). If I'm reading the docs right, this should be used for > the "right-hand part" of the From: and return-path addresses on > outgoing mail. It isn't; all mail sent from pine goes out with > the regular hostname (and yes, I really do have a legitimate reason > for wanting to do this, if possible. It's a long story) in the > from and return-path. > > So, I thought to myself, it's probably sendmail re-writing all that > stuff, so I defined smtp-server in order to try to bypass the local > sendmail. No luck; everything still has from and return-path pointing > at the local hostname, rather than the stuff in the personal config > file. I *do* have the user-domain defined to be the hostname in the > system-wide file, but it's my understanding that the personal config > file takes precedence, right? > > So, does anyone have any ideas how to get the outgoing mail to have > from and return addresses different than the default on a per-user > basis. Thanks. > > Larry Owen email: owen@noc.auburn.edu > Campus Network Administrator phone: (205) 844-4110 > Auburn University fax: (205) 844-9390 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:48:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01577; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10742; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10736; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:31 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15712; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:24:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 18:24:28 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: Decoding Messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Chris, The next release of Pine will include the Pipe command which will allow you to type "|uudecode"... Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, Christopher "AWOL" Curtis wrote: > I occasionally get uuencoded files in my mail. How is it possible to > save and uudecode a file without first extracting it? Using extract and > specifying "|uudecode" as a filename doesn't work... [possible enhancement?] > > -= Chris =- > [.Sig closed for repair] > (ccurtis@ee.fit.edu) ... (cwcurtis@roo.fit.edu) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 18:50:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01605; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:50:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10996; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:41:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from usagi.calvin.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10990; Tue, 12 Apr 94 18:41:32 -0700 Received: by usagi.Calvin.EDU (5.65c/1.35) id AA07361; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:41:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:41:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I posted this a few days ago but got no response. Did this circulate to the list or did I screw up? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 22:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Omi Chandiramani To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Flag to start pine only if new mail exists? How about it? This would be similar to the -z flag in elm. Right now I have a shell script which does the same but it would be much cooler to just have to type.. pine -x or something similar. Anybody else support this idea? Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 20:09:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.3/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02569; Tue, 12 Apr 94 20:09:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12072; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:53:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hnlv4.VERIFONE.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12066; Tue, 12 Apr 94 19:53:27 -0700 Received: from verifone.com by verifone.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #2386) id <01HB3F6RME8694EKMA@verifone.com>; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:53:49 -1000 Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 16:53:49 -1000 From: "James H. Thompson - HNL" Subject: PICO Question - how to go to end/top of file To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HB3F6RME8894EKMA@verifone.com> Organization: VeriFone X-Ps-Qualifiers: /FONT=Courier-Bold/LINES=66/LEFT_MARGIN=36/CALCULATE/TOP_MARGIN=36/BOTTOM_MARGIN=36 X-Vms-To: IN%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" X-Vms-Cc: JIMMY_T Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT In Pico, how do you jump to the end or the top of a file? Being able to jump to a line number would be nice to. Thanks. Jim +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | James H. Thompson | jimmy_t@verifone.com (Internet) | | VeriFone Inc. | uunet!verifone!jimmy_t (UUCP) | | 100 Kahelu Avenue | 808-623-2911 (Phone) | | Mililani, HI 96789 | 808-625-3201 (FAX) | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Apr 12 23:50:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05898; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:50:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15135; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:37:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from loke.btj.se by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15120; Tue, 12 Apr 94 23:36:59 -0700 Received: by loke.btj.se id AA09749 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:36:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:36:55 +0200 (DFT) From: Goran Svensson Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Charset: ISO_8859-1 X-Char-Esc: 0 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( PGP is using RSA protected by a US patent, therefore possibly breaking US patent laws. Also, PGP can not be exported outside US. *BUT*, PGP is legally sold under the name ViaCrypt, under legal license terms. See alt.security.pgp . Therefore, calling PGP from inside pine can not in my opinion break any law. Inside US, it is a permitted when bought as ViaCrypt, and outside US there is not any law against it. > > While a PGP specific patch may suffer from legal problems the original > request suggested a "generic" hook so that people could plug in their own > privacy package. Do you see any problems with that approach? > > Ed > > Edward M. Greshko Control Data Taiwan > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > ******************************************************************************* * Goran Svensson * Believe it or not, this is my opinion. * * BTJ System AB, Lund, Sweden * I reserve the right to change it, * * Email: goran@btj.se * doubt it or deny it at any time. * * Phone: +46 46 18 00 00 ****************************************** * Fax: +46 46 18 03 33 * Snail: Box 4066, S-227 21 Lund, Sweden * ******************************************************************************* * Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter * * if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own * * common sense." * * --Buddha * ******************************************************************************* -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQBVAgUBLauTAdi2zQF0LyZBAQH6OAIAlSD23ph/cPTeJurLd41O04IFWEBcchvD qP68AfnsnMQw39W2QE0+OnfH19ERwxeu0j2X8zi8miz+BueQSy5Xxg== =YqZx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 08:21:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17167; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:21:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22486; Wed, 13 Apr 94 07:57:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22480; Wed, 13 Apr 94 07:57:23 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA19582 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:57:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:57:20 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug: save to a file named * Message-Id: I see the save command (when viewing a message) lets me save to a file named *. One of our users did this by accident, and decided to fix it afterwards by doing rm mail/*, and even though we have rm aliased to rm -i, he told it OK to do it. * is an unlikely filename to want; some other special characters would also be "fun" for novices to handle in filenames. Do you all feel like imposing a character test for file creation? Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 08:33:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17689; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:33:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22220; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22214; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:36 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03677; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:01:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: "James H. Thompson - HNL" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PICO Question - how to go to end/top of file In-Reply-To: <01HB3F6RME8894EKMA@verifone.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jim, The version of Pico dto be distributed with the next release of Pine will have commands to jump to top and bottom. Line number jumps are not yet implemented. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, James H. Thompson - HNL wrote: > In Pico, how do you jump to the end or the top of a file? > Being able to jump to a line number would be nice to. > > Thanks. > > Jim > +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > | James H. Thompson | jimmy_t@verifone.com (Internet) | > | VeriFone Inc. | uunet!verifone!jimmy_t (UUCP) | > | 100 Kahelu Avenue | 808-623-2911 (Phone) | > | Mililani, HI 96789 | 808-625-3201 (FAX) | > +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 09:04:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19038; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:04:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23477; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:44:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23471; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:44:34 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27181; Wed, 13 Apr 94 08:46:43 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: attachments To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Coould someone help me answer this question from one of our end-users? > I sent an e-mail to the eastern US and a long ATTACHMENT came out > looking like code. Is it correct to presume that the attachment was > compressed? Michael Showers | 2079-Columbia Ave. Computer Systems Manager | Trail, British Columbia School District No. 11 (Trail) | CANADA V1R-1K7 mshowers@CIAO.trail.bc.ca | voice: (604) 368-2234 -- A.K.A. The Technical Connection for the CIAO! Free-Net -- /\ /\ /\ / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ ^^^^^^ It's great in the Kootenays. ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 09:23:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19905; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:23:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23769; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:01:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from isumataq.eskimo.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23763; Wed, 13 Apr 94 09:01:48 -0700 Received: by isumataq.eskimo.com (5.65c/1.35) id AA29384; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:01:23 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 09:01:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Putnam Barber Subject: Re: $ and Bug: save to a file named * To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I second Joe Brennan's thought. My particular version was less dramatic. I created a file with a $ in its name, and found that unix has ideas about such files that DOS never dreamed. After several discussions with others who were as baffled as I, a stranger who used unix all the time gave me the clues I needed to work with and then delete the file. It would have been nice to have been saved from myself in this instance. Even more so if I'd strayed down the path Brennan's user followed! Putnam Barber Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 10:28:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22374; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:28:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24408; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24402; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:43 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29031; Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:00:42 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 10:00:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Regarding PGP support Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There have been several messages on this topic recently; here's my $.02... o Support for private/authenticated mail is clearly important. o We do not expect to bundle encryption code in the Pine distribution. o We do not expect to purchase technology from ViaCrypt. o Additional alternatives will be coming from MIT "real soon now". o The suggestion that we provide hooks so that an *external* package can enhance/de-enhance a message seems exactly right to me. o In 3.90 "pipe to cmd" and "mailcap" support may provide part of the answer (for processing incoming messages). o Feasibility of the "external processing" approach has yet to be verified. o Nothing has been done yet about hooks for outgoing msgs. It's not likely that this will be done in time for 3.90, unless it turns out to be dead easy. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 11:55:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25138; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:55:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25659; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:24:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from papaya.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25652; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:24:50 -0700 Received: by papaya.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA21310; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:25:07 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:24:48 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Reply-To: Hussain Chinoy Subject: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi there! This is sort of a unix question. I've known for a long time that Pine can print to a printer using "attached to ansi," but what is the command to do that for a file from the unix prompt? ____________________________________________________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 314.935.4353 Washington University in St. Louis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 12:30:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26451; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:30:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26797; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:44:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26791; Wed, 13 Apr 94 11:44:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id NAA14584; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:49:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:49:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please note, it is very easy to PGP-sign a pine mailing. A) create a script outside of pine. I call mine 'picopgp'. ====picopgp==== #!/bin/sh pico -z -t $1 pgp -sat $1 mv $1.asc $1 ====end======== B) Set your alternate editor to this script (if in your path, just picopgp) C) When you want to pgp-sign your message, invoke your alternate editor and when you exit it, you will be asked for your password and then will have a signed message. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 12:45:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27213; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:45:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26799; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:26:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ziggy.hslib.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26793; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:26:26 -0700 Received: by ziggy.hslib.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.29 ) id AA20241; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:28:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:28:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cindy Jenkins Subject: Setting a global From address To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I've been hunting in the pinerc file and can't locate how to set this up. Is it possible to set up a From address in the pinerc of a user's account, so that when a message is sent from that account, the From line has a generic address (like pine-help@cac) rather than the person's address? If so, where do i set this up? **************************************************** Cindy Jenkins Health Sciences Library Systems Administrator Information Center office: 543-5531 Room T315 pager: 997-4934 mail stop SB-55 Internet: cj@hslib.washington.edu **************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:04:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28262; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:04:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26647; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26641; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:23 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07337; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:16:12 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:16:12 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Hussain Chinoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hussain, The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion for the program is included in the source file. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Hussain Chinoy wrote: > Hi there! > > This is sort of a unix question. I've known for a long time that > Pine can print to a printer using "attached to ansi," but what is the > command to do that for a file from the unix prompt? > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > G. Hussain Chinoy Head Consultant, Arts & Sciences NeXT Lab > hussain@artsci.wustl.edu Cupples I, Room 213 > 314.935.4353 > Washington University in St. Louis > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:34:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29415; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:34:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28177; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:58:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from toon.ctp.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28171; Wed, 13 Apr 94 12:58:49 -0700 Received: from punch.ctp.com by ctp.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cambridge Technology Partners) id AA07350; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:58:42 EDT Received: by punch.ctp.com (16.6/DA.WS.1.0.5) id AA02243; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:59:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:59:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Bruce Mahfood Subject: pine mail vs. news To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to jump between mail and news without having to close one or the other out? I would like to freely be reading or write my mail and just bounce over to news to see some information. That is, actually, the only thing about seperate packages that I didn't think about before starting to use pine. You can go to news to cut something out with your mouse and go back to your mailer and paste it in. May not seem like much, but, when you're in a mailer and want to refer to an article you can't get to it because you are tying up the package writing your mailer. Hope I'm making sense here. I guess what I mean is the ability to have either 1) multiple processes that you can switch back and forth between, or 2) temp files that keep the info from your mailer (such as where you were exactly and a copy of the mailer you were composing, with the cursor position) while you jump over to read news. You might even use this as a way to be able to open a saved or unsaved mailer for reference while writing a mailer that is to be sent. This would definitely increase functionality. Please let me know if I'm going too far, but I'm interested to see if such a situation could be done without throwing the pine people into a major loop... **************************************************************************** ! Bruce Mahfood bmahf@ctp.com ! ! ! Cambridge Technology Partners ! "It amazes me the will of instinct" ! ! 304 Vassar St. ! Nirvana ! ! Cambridge, MA 02139 ! ! **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:41:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29670; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:41:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28717; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:20:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28711; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:19:59 -0700 Received: from sun (sun.lclark.edu) by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19374; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:19:58 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:19:57 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: David L Miller Cc: Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > for the program is included in the source file. Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": % more ansiprint.c #include main (argc,argv) char *argv[]; int argc; { char c; putchar ('\033'); putchar ('['); putchar ('5'); putchar ('i'); while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); putchar ('\f'); putchar ('\033'); putchar ('['); putchar ('4'); putchar ('i'); } I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. To use ansiprint: % ansiprint < myfile or % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) John Miller Lewis & Clark College From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 13:46:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29817; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:46:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28631; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:14:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28625; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:14:03 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <18263-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:13:58 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:14:02 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: re: attachments To: Pine User Group Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > answer this question from one of our end-users? Me neither - I have 2 requests: 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! BTW what IS the encoding method...? 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that threaded/winsock version folks! B-) John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:11:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00743; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:11:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29432; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:52:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29426; Wed, 13 Apr 94 13:52:12 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HB4N7VDHW08ZGBPX@asu.edu>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:53:26 MST Received: from ECSTEST.ASU.EDU ([129.219.3.7]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113128>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:18 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Multiple address books To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Priority: Normal Sorry if this is the 17th time you see this question, but I'm dying to know if the "Spring" version of Pine will support multiple address books (e.g., a system one and a personal one). Much obliged. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:32:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01366; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:32:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29698; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:06:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29692; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:06:09 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08453; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:05:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, The encoding method used for all attachments in Pine is called BASE64, but most of the decoding software available for BASE64 can already figure that out from the MIME headers... Pine and some other mailers use the _convention_ that the first part of a multipart message is the text body, There is nothing in the MIME specification that requires that convention, and there are mailers available that do not use it. There has been some discussion in the comp.mail.mime newsgroup about ways to distinguish between attachments and message body parts in MIME, but I don't think anything has been decided. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > > > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > > answer this question from one of our end-users? > > Me neither - I have 2 requests: > > 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for > attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using > pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please > ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more > than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! > > BTW what IS the encoding method...? > > > 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to > save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the > plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the > message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the > point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if > there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? > > > PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that > threaded/winsock version folks! B-) > > > John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk > University of Reading 0734 318435 > Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:33:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01459; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28750; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28744; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08517; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:10:43 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:10:42 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Cindy Jenkins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting a global From address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cindy, The next release of Pine will support both the Reply-To: header and a pre-settable From: header. We expect to have it available later this spring. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Cindy Jenkins wrote: > Hi, I've been hunting in the pinerc file and can't locate how to set this > up. Is it possible to set up a From address in the pinerc of a user's > account, so that when a message is sent from that account, the From line > has a generic address (like pine-help@cac) rather than the person's > address? If so, where do i set this up? > > **************************************************** > Cindy Jenkins Health Sciences Library > Systems Administrator Information Center > office: 543-5531 Room T315 > pager: 997-4934 mail stop SB-55 > Internet: cj@hslib.washington.edu > **************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01646; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28839; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28833; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:44 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08579; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:15:39 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Shahjehan Khatri Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple address books In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Shahjehan, Sorry to disappoint you, but it does not look like multiple addressbook support will make the spring release. It does remain high on our priority list for a future release though. Thanks for the request! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > Sorry if this is the 17th time you see this question, but I'm dying to know > if the "Spring" version of Pine will support multiple address books (e.g., a > system one and a personal one). > > Much obliged. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:43:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02028; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:43:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28880; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:19:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pear.wustl.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28874; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:19:17 -0700 Received: by pear.wustl.edu (NX5.67c/NeXT-3.0-SLT/GHC) id AA01007; Wed, 13 Apr 94 16:19:27 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:19:07 -0500 (CDT) From: Hussain Chinoy Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: John Miller Cc: David L Miller , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, Works like a charm! Thanks tons! hussain ________________________________ G. Hussain Chinoy hussain@artsci.wustl.edu On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or > that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d > after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might > want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": > > % more ansiprint.c > > #include > > main (argc,argv) > char *argv[]; > int argc; > > { > char c; > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('5'); > putchar ('i'); > > while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); > putchar ('\f'); > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('4'); > putchar ('i'); > } > > I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac > VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise > it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be > a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so > I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. > > To use ansiprint: > > % ansiprint < myfile > or > % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint > > ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use > indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. > > Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) > > John Miller > Lewis & Clark College > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 14:56:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02381; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:56:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29212; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29206; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:25 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14995; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:36:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Miller Cc: David L Miller , Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or ... Thanks John... The problem is that David inadvertently got a couple of extra words in his sentence. It should have read: "Documentation for the program *is* the source file." :) (This is a Unix app, after all.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 15:07:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02911; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:07:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29385; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:45:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms2.u.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29379; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:45:07 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms2.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11010; Wed, 13 Apr 94 14:44:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:46:42 -0700 (PDT) Michael Showers wrote: > > > I do not understand how attachments work in Pine. Could someone help me > > answer this question from one of our end-users? > > Me neither - I have 2 requests: > > 1: that Pine tell the user what the name of the encoding method for > attachments is, so that the user can tell the would-be recipient (not using > pine) how it is encoded. I'm not a completely dumb user (no arguments please > ;-) and I don't know off the top of my head, and when someone who knows more > than I do asks, I feel a bit foolish saying I don't know! > > BTW what IS the encoding method...? John et al, It is both necessary and sufficient to have a "MIME capable" mailer or external software to read Pine attachments. So it should be enough to say to your correspondents "You need MIME capability". For the terminally curious, Pine uses MIME's "Base64" Content-Transfer- Encoding for all attachments. > 2: when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to > save/view part 1 or 2 ... now I've been here before and know that part 1 is the > plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the > message, and there's already a command to save or export it, so what is the > point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 (or > 2 if > there is >1 attachment), so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? The attachment interface *is* due for an overhaul, but being removing the ability to specify the first MIME body part is not such a good idea, for two reasons: 1. Using the attachment viewer's save option is currently the only way to save a message without any headers. 2. Other mailers may generate "first" body parts that are not ascii text. In this case, it is important to be able to explicitly specify #1. Still, we all agree that the current attachment interface is a bit clunky. > PS thanks for a nice mailer, and please don't keep us hanging on for that > threaded/winsock version folks! B-) Yes, sir! Right away! -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 16:07:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05145; Wed, 13 Apr 94 16:07:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01841; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sun.lclark.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01835; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:41 -0700 Received: from sun (sun.lclark.edu) by lclark.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02159; Wed, 13 Apr 94 15:50:36 PDT Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:50:36 -0700 (PDT) From: John Miller Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: Terry Gray Cc: David L Miller , Hussain Chinoy , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Thanks John... The problem is that David inadvertently got a couple of > extra words in his sentence. It should have read: "Documentation for > the program *is* the source file." :) > > (This is a Unix app, after all.) Ha Ha! I followed that convention in my source code as well... Whoever picks that program up would do well to incorporate my usage notes as comments. The program really should take a filename as an argument as well. See any C textbook for the solution. :^) John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:47:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08876; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:47:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04399; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from carson-oms1.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04393; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:31 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by carson-oms1.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26038; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:30:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 18:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Robert A. Hayden" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks Robert. That's good news. -teg On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Robert A. Hayden wrote: > Please note, it is very easy to PGP-sign a pine mailing. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:49:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08962; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:49:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04466; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:35:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04460; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:35:42 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id VAA05332; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:35:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:27:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: pine mail vs. news To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Is it possible to jump between mail and news without having to close one > or the other out? I would like to freely be reading or write my mail and > just bounce over to news to see some information. You can run two copies of pine. If your shell supports job control (assuming you're running UNIX Pine), and you've set feature-list= enable-suspend, then you can switch between the two running copies. The second copy opens in Read Only mode (so you can't delete stuff in your remote inbox). Also, don't forget about the background job, or the IMAP connection will be broken. This is admittedly pretty kludgy, but it would work. -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 18:53:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09044; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:53:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03219; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:40:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03213; Wed, 13 Apr 94 18:40:56 -0700 Received: from localhost (hayden@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) id UAA02899; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:46:09 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:46:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Regarding PGP support To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Thanks Robert. That's good news. If you are looking for something to do with it (pine people), you could probably integrate something like that into pine itself. Have a .pinerc flag 'pgp-enable' and some perhaps a 'do you want to PGPSign this message' prompt. Or perhaps control-E to exit construction of a message and sign it. I'd think it would be very easy to do, won't require any integration of PGP itself, and would be pretty intutive, I'd think. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 20:51:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10913; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:51:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05662; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:39:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU:thomas@tsongsig.la.asu.edu> Received: from asuvm.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05656; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:39:01 -0700 Received: from tsongsig.la.asu.edu by ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 13 Apr 94 20:37:52 MST Received: by tsongsig.la.asu.edu (931110.SGI/931108.SGI.AUTO.ANONFTP) for @asuvm.inre.asu.edu:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA18141; Wed, 13 Apr 94 22:16:14 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 22:16:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Mueller Subject: folder-collections=Mail/[] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, while configuring pine one problem occured with the setting folder-collections=Mail/[] in my pinerc. During startup pine gives the message "Creating subdirectory "/usr/people/thomas/mail" where pine will store its mail folders." and actually creates this directory, although it will never use it (since there is this folder-collections entry, which directs all mail into ~./Mail). Is there a problem with my configuration or is it just a bug in pine? Thanks in advance, Thomas Mueller -- Wissen ist Macht. (thomas@tsongsig.la.asu.edu) Wir wissen nichts. Macht nichts. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Apr 13 21:39:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11589; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:39:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04759; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:28:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from azure.engin.umich.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04753; Wed, 13 Apr 94 21:28:10 -0700 Received: (messina@localhost) by azure.engin.umich.edu (8.6.8/8.6.4) id AAA04503; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:28:08 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:26:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Messina Subject: Re: folder-collections=Mail/[] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > while configuring pine one problem occured with the setting > folder-collections=Mail/[] in my pinerc. During startup pine gives the > message [ Why does it insist on creating ~/mail is the question ] You also have to set mail-directory=Mail -- Matt Messina Vote YES on rec.arts.ascii matt.messina@umich.edu CFV: coming soon to a n.a.newgroups near you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 05:14:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18172; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:14:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09660; Thu, 14 Apr 94 04:43:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09653; Thu, 14 Apr 94 04:43:42 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <12343-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:43:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:43:10 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: re: attachments To: David L Miller , Terry Gray Cc: Pine User Group Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, I (John Stumbles) wrote: > > ...when a message is received with an attachment, pine asks if you want to save/view part 1 or 2 ... part 1 is the plain text mail message you get to read anyway as soon as you go into the message... so what is the point of this - the part you want to save or view is always part 2 ...so why not have part 1 == 1st attachment ... etc ? to which David L Miller replied: > Pine and some other mailers use the _convention_ that the first part of a > multipart message is the text body... And Terry Gray also replied: > ... removing > the ability to specify the first MIME body part is not such a good idea, > for two reasons: > > 1. Using the attachment viewer's save option is currently the only way to > save a message without any headers. > > 2. Other mailers may generate "first" body parts that are not ascii text. > In this case, it is important to be able to explicitly specify #1. Thanks David and Terry, When I first came across a message with an attachment I was confused to find that asking to view attachment number 1 put me back into viewing the plain message. I was in naive user mode, and I am guessing that other naive users would find it similarly confusing (even with the attachment view/save interface cleaned up). I do think attachment number 1 should be the first actual attachment - if (as Terry suggests) it is necessary or desirable to be able to invoke the attachment view/save mechanism for the body, couldn't this be referred to as part 0 ?? That way the smart users would be able to do what they want, and the naive users would get what they expect when they do what comes naturally - which is the pine philosophy, n'est ce pas? BTW Terry, I don't understand your second point - I thought email message bodies were exclusively ascii text (give or take some differences in national character sets) - isn't this what attachments are all about? Surely if anyone produces a mailer that sends out first body parts that are not ascii, 99.99% of other mailers won't be able to read it without fiddling about, and it isn't going to be very popular? John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 06:11:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19105; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:11:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08685; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:49:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08679; Thu, 14 Apr 94 05:48:47 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0prQQ9-00012UC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 22:21 EST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:21:23 +0000 From: root Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: David L Miller Cc: Bruce Mahfood , "Andrew B. Sweger" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Andrew Douglas Inman In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > Bruce, > > Unfortunately the contributed code has to get past the same roadblocks as any > code we would write. We have already been offered a couple PGP patches for > Pine, but we cannot do anything with them until the legal dust settles :( > > Thanks for the suggestion! > > --DLM Does that really apply if the contributed code is just a patch which allows an external program called 'pgp' to be called? Or a program which is called 'tom', maybe, which just might happen to be 'pgp'? How could there be any legal problem with that? There is just such a patch floating around. And there seems to be considerable demand. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 06:41:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19452; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:41:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08986; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:21:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [202.12.88.9] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08979; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:21:10 -0700 Return-Path: Received: by budge (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #14) id m0prQ3l-00012UC; Thu, 14 Apr 94 21:58 EST Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:58:15 +0000 From: Subject: Including other messages... To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine Team, I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have to go outside of Pine to do. Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 07:11:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19823; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:11:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10889; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:54:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wave.aoml.erl.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10883; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:54:24 -0700 Received: from localhost (chen@localhost) by aoml.erl.gov (8.6.5/8.6.4) id JAA01332; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:53:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:53:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Ying-Yuang Chen Subject: subscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --YY From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 07:13:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19856; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:13:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AB10924; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:59:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10918; Thu, 14 Apr 94 06:59:06 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <17892-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:58:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:58:38 BST From: John Stumbles Subject: Re: Pine enhancement requests To: root Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Priority: Normal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:21:23 +0000 root wrote: > There is just such a patch floating around. And there seems to be > considerable demand. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Is it applicable to the DOS pine or only the Unix version? I know the DOS version is usually distributed as an executable, but I understand the source is available...? John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk University of Reading 0734 318435 Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:10:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21078; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:10:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11654; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:56:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11648; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:56:42 -0700 Received: from rye.city.ac.uk by Rye.city.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <17654-0@Rye.city.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:49:26 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:48:59 +0100 (BST) From: David Brownlee Subject: Re: Including other messages... To: Pine-Info Maillist In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On the 'gauge demand by number of requests front', I'm afraid I have to add a 'me too' to this :) D.K.Brownlee@city.ac.uk. Network Analyst. Postmaster. Hostmaster. <_.-^-._> Telephone: (+44) 71 477 8000 Ext:3757. <_.-^-._> Snailmail:E308, City University, Northampton Sq, Islington, London EC1V 0HB. On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, charlieb wrote: > > Pine Team, > > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have > to go outside of Pine to do. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:18:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21404; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11712; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:59:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11705; Thu, 14 Apr 94 07:59:49 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <20015-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:59:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:59:29 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Subject: Re: Including other messages... To: charlieb Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 517 On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, charlieb wrote: > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have Seconded! Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 08:41:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22238; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:41:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10228; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from acad.csv.kutztown.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10222; Thu, 14 Apr 94 08:18:14 -0700 Received: by acad.csv.kutztown.edu (5.65/1.35) id AA23629; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:19:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:08 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lisa M. Frye" Subject: Re: attached-to-ansi cmd in unix? To: John Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII John, I have a small program which does the same as your ansiprint. However, my program, as well as yours, do not take into account the time it takes for the printer to do a formfeed at the end of the page. I am looking for a way to do that so printouts from unix to the ansi printer do not lose 3 lines between every page. Lisa Frye frye@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "You can bring a person to the university, but you can't make him think." On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, John Miller wrote: > On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > The Pine source distribution includes a small utility program called > > ansiprt that will do this in the contrib/utils directory. Documentstion > > for the program is included in the source file. > > Well, the documentation doesn't really say how to use the command, or > that the command line option, if present, tells whether to output a ctrl-d > after detecting the EOF on input.. or under what situations you might > want to do that. I simplified the program to the following, "ansiprint": > > % more ansiprint.c > > #include > > main (argc,argv) > char *argv[]; > int argc; > > { > char c; > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('5'); > putchar ('i'); > > while ((c=getchar())!=EOF) putchar(c); > putchar ('\f'); > > putchar ('\033'); > putchar ('['); > putchar ('4'); > putchar ('i'); > } > > I found that I had to add the \f (formfeed) at the end in order to force Mac > VersaTerm to print the unix file to attached imagewriter NOW.. otherwise > it just wanted to buffer it up and print when it had what it considered to be > a pagefull. I found that ansiprt and pine's print had different results, so > I looked into pine's print routine to determine that the above did the trick. > > To use ansiprint: > > % ansiprint < myfile > or > % cmd1 | cmd2 | ansiprint > > ansiprint does not take a file name on the command line. You must use > indirection or put at the end of a pipeline. > > Feel free to use. No liabilities here. :^) > > John Miller > Lewis & Clark College > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 09:50:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25443; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:50:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13666; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13660; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:20 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19651; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:22:02 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 09:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: John Stumbles Cc: Pine User Group Subject: re: attachments In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, John Stumbles wrote: > When I first came across a message with an attachment I was confused to find > that asking to view attachment number 1 put me back into viewing the plain > message. I was in naive user mode, and I am guessing that other naive users > would find it similarly confusing (even with the attachment view/save interface > cleaned up). > Your point is well taken. Hopefully we can clear it up with the redesign. > I do think attachment number 1 should be the first actual attachment - if (as > Terry suggests) it is necessary or desirable to be able to invoke the > attachment view/save mechanism for the body, couldn't this be referred to as > part 0 ?? That way the smart users would be able to do what they want, and the > naive users would get what they expect when they do what comes naturally - > which is the pine philosophy, n'est ce pas? > Actually, Pine doesn't make it available, but I believe the underlying c-client code calls the message headers part 0. > BTW Terry, I don't understand your second point - I thought email message > bodies were exclusively ascii text (give or take some differences in national > character sets) - isn't this what attachments are all about? Surely if anyone > produces a mailer that sends out first body parts that are not ascii, 99.99% of > other mailers won't be able to read it without fiddling about, and it isn't > going to be very popular? > Attachments are a Pine concept, not a MIME concept. To be minimally conformant to the MIME specification, a mailer must be able to handle *any* mix of content-types in a reasonable fashion. For example, I have heard of sites experimenting with voice-mail via MIME, in which case there would be no purpose in having anything but the audio/basic content. Any MIME mailer should be able to at least save it to a file... > > John Stumbles j.d.stumbles@reading.ac.uk > University of Reading 0734 318435 > Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF, UK > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 09:51:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25539; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:51:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13576; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:18:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from suma2.rdg.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13570; Thu, 14 Apr 94 09:18:40 -0700 Received: from reading.ac.uk by mail2.reading.ac.uk with SMTP - Local (PP) id <22280-0@mail2.reading.ac.uk>; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:18:18 +0100 (BST) From: Mike Roch Reply-To: Mike Roch Subject: Pine as a newsreader To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 511 We're happily using Pine as a newsreader (mostly 3.07, some 3.89). I'm toying with the idea of setting up anonymous news access via Pine; how can I do this so that the default folder colletion presented will be the entire set of newsgroups in /usr/lib/news/active? Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 10:37:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27393; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:37:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14644; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14638; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:11:02 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20595; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:10:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:10:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: charlieb@budge.apana.org.au Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Including other messages... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world X-Newsreader: Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's on the list.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 charlieb@budge.apana.org.au wrote: > > Pine Team, > > I'd just like to make sure that one of the things on your to-do list is to > allow other messages to be included (in the manner of a reply) when > composing or replying. This is about the only thing that I regularly have > to go outside of Pine to do. > > Charlie Brady * (W) charlieb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au * (H) charlieb@budge.apana.org.au > "Make it as simple as possible - | Tel: (02) 413 6838 ____Telectronics__| /\__ > but no simpler" Einstein, A | Fax: (02) 413 6868 Pacing Systems \/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 14 11:15:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28770; Thu, 14 Apr 94 11:15:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15317; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15311; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:33 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21463; Thu, 14 Apr 94 10:49:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:49:14 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Mike Roch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as a newsreader In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington -- Pine Development Team Distribution: world